Dee-1 | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek - ROC Solid

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What up y'all? This is your main manor Memphis Bleak
right here.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to Rock Solid her production of iHeart Radio and
the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over
at Drink Champs Big.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
With these year Memphis im Xatyaddy niggas.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Notice the difference just pro President Stones. Yeah, y'all you
already know what it is.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Back with another exclusive rock Solid podcast, yours truly Memphis Bleak.
And like I tell you all the time, when you
see people sitting on this platform, it mean one or
two things, but this time it means both. This man
to the right of mean not only it's solid, the
rock solid true pillar new to the game and been
holding it down. And this is one of many conversations

(00:45):
we're gonna have. Welcome my brother d one to the building.
You know what it is, Silid, what's up my guy?

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Man, Bro, I'm looking forward to this conversation. I'm serious
because ain't too many people in the game got integrity.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
No, definitely, and that's that's a rarity in this business,
my g integrity. These guys come into business and I
think they just see dollar signs and that that becomes
they morality, Your instinct becomes everything, and they put.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
The dollar first. Man. So literally, like.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
I respect how you you just came in on a
whole different lane. What gave you that attitude and mentality
to even do it?

Speaker 5 (01:24):
Because I know that money didn't create me.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
God created me, you hear me?

Speaker 4 (01:28):
And because I know who my creator is, I know
my purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
My purpose is to get money, but not to worship money.
That's right, you hear man.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
That's just the difference.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
When people worship money and they make money, they god.
You know, you can't really hang around them too much.
You can't trust them because that means that that God
that they worship eventually they're gonna go against you because
of that God they wish, you feel me.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
And so I just got.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Into the rap game and I said, man, we've become
addicted to worshiping money. We literally it's so much music
that I blame your generation.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
To tell you, y'all y'all to get money generation.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
But then we talked about getting money, oh man.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
But then it was like, okay, what to do now
once you get the money? And I think y'all left
us hanging.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yo, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
You say that because I say it wasn't only our fault.
It was the OG's before us, because they taught us
to get money.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's what everything.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Get the money, get money, Queens get money, Brooklyn get money. Man,
keep on making it. All that was before my generation.
So we came up like, Oh, the ol g's got
the ragtips, they got the big bubbling chains, the big
Nephi teeny pieces. Oh, we want to be like that.
We want to get money. But they never told us
what to do with the money. So we couldn't tell
y'all what to do with the money. Or we knew

(02:45):
was to get the money, get the.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Money and spend it on carts and jewelry and money cash.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
You hear, you know, And it's something I'm gonna keep
it all the way real. We exploit, yes, the whole
old culture and music. But bro, how can you change
the mentality of a person who called himself that because
all women ain't holes, right, you know, it's a certain
demographic of women who will look at you and telling man,

(03:12):
I'm a certified whole I'm.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Standing on that. I stand on that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
Well, I just feel like if we see a young
brother in the hood and he called himself a loser
any man that's in a position to speak life into
him or say you're.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
Not a loser, you're a king.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
So if you see a woman calling herself a whole,
you know, excuse my language, I don't be saying that,
but if you see a woman, oh that's how you
think about yourself. Baby, I got a decision to make
right now.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I could either double down on yeah, you definitely are
you know what, I man, I'm fin a treacher, like what?

Speaker 4 (03:41):
And or I could be like, you know what, sweetie,
you just misguided. You're actually not that.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
You're a queen. And I'm gonna show you how you
feel me.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Let me ask you how old are you? I'm timeless?
I like that.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, so I want to say, put yourself before becoming timeless.
Sixteen fifteen years old, fresh off the block, all right,
girl telling you, hey, I'm a dad son, I'm a
whole with you you trying to convince her?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
She not right then and there.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
No at that age, at that age, all right, yes,
because we all make mistakes, well, and we grew wiser.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
You're not born wise? Yeah that that okay, that's a
good point, you.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Know what I'm saying, because remember when these records came out.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I was is that your chick? I was what twenty
twenty one got you? You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (04:31):
So, but who did you look up to?

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Because they had somebody that was your OG at the
time that knew like man, I used to be like you, bleeve,
but I grew up and I grew wiser, and I
feel like your OG's might have failed you, because that's
the thing. It starts with the ogs. When the ogs
give game properly, then all of a sudden, the young
generation is ahead of the curve because they're like.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Dang, I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I'm never gonna say my oldg's failed me because they
gave my OG is the big homie.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
He gave me life that I wouldn't be here without. Hell.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I never had an OG to teach me about women.
I never had a father. All I was my mother.
You know, women is my mother. Got is an emotional creature.
So you can't learn about women from a woman, you know.
So I learned about women from just being in the street,
going to the clubs. The music videos I watch now
you're talking about back in the days, Come on, man,
we had songs. So what what was my man saying

(05:26):
I got a man. What your man got to do
with me?

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Got a man. I'm not trying to hear that SEASO.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
I grew up off those kinds of exactly those exactly,
but I'm not.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Gonna consider them my old Jesus. Just music that curved,
that carved the mentality of a young man that was
lost right.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
And I think what enough rappers don't realize is when
God has blessed you to make it as a rapper.
You got a lot of young homies who you're never
meet in person, but they look up to you because
you got a platform, you got a song, you got
an album, just the soundtrack to their lifestyle. And I
think enough people who didn't think about it like that,
and they were just selfish with their success and they said, man,

(06:04):
my success is meant to feed me and my family.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
I don't care what impact is having all my listeners.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
And bro, I'm gonna tell you, you're one hundred percent
right because you.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Got a member and nowaday, it was no social media,
so you didn't know your reach. Okay, you didn't know
who in Alabama.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Cargo.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
You didn't know what we was impacting or we knew
I'm making music for my dogs.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
They say, this's gonna pay me.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
It's gonna help move the moms out the hood, change
our our food struggles. We're gonna get money. So, yeah,
we didn't. I'm gonna tell you honest from me. I'm
not gonna say week from me. I ain't think about
nobody else, bro. It was just what was in front
of me and what the goal was. It wasn't until
I started getting shows, touring and seeing like, oh shit,

(06:51):
Like we're doing the same thing everywhere in the world.
It don't matter if I land in Japan or I
land in New York City.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
It's people getting up, going to work.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
It's people hustling this, people scamming, the people doing crime.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
But we all, at the end of the day, got
the same goal.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
We're trying to make that bag to change life at home,
you know what I'm saying. So I don't know where
that message went wrong in today's culture, because a lot
of these kids today got the bag.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah they got the bag, but they don't realize that
the bag is not the end of the room. No,
they think that, oh I got the bag, I made
it in life.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's all life is. About once they start.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
That's why you got so many people with mental health
issues now, because they're.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Like, wait, I got what y'all told me to day,
I got the bag lonely, yes, but I'm still depressed.
But I still don't know my purpose in life.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
That's a fact.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
And it's because if you made that bag your God,
now you're sitting there looking at the bag, and you're
sitting there looking at your bank account like all right, God,
all right, tell me God, help me, Yeah, help me,
help me with this depression with help me with this
trauma that I can't deal with.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
That's right, And that money can't.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Do it for you. You heard me.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
So I tell people all the time, like money makes
life comfortable. It don't make life easy, It just makes
it comfortable. You go from riding the train, now you
got a car. You know what I'm saying. But it's
still now. Money is the type of thing.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Now when you.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Get to exceed a super exceeding amount of money. Now
you got so much family that wasn't family before.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Now they're on your line. Now you got rich problems.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
That's why I say so, no matter what class you were,
whether you broke middle class or top tier.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
It's always problems in each one.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Nobody is just sitting there and living scott free, just chilling, bro, nobody. So,
but I want to go back because you're from New Orleans, man,
I love an accent like that.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
That's one of my most.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Favorite, my favorite cities because just of the culture, you know,
the history, the blackness of the city.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
You know, everybody showed love. It's like a brotherhood.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
But I always hear the same thing, your belief that's
just you. When you hear when you leave, we don't
like each other no more. One of the murder capitals
of the United States for basically my whole ourhood.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
And the sad part is you got some people in
New Orleans. They ain't gonna admit it, you know, they'd
be it be faking when when you call it out.
But I'm from there, so I really know you got
a lot of people who take pride in.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Being the murder capital. Yah. Yeah we that you heard me?
Yeah we really at yeah number one.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Yeah, you know how sick and twisted that mentality?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Ron, that's retarding, bro. You want to be the murder
capital or the world like that.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
That's insane. So that's what that's what I grew up around.
I grew up around a.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
City where it's like everybody else outside the city loved
this city. But down here, man, we kill each other.
We make music about it, we parted to it. We
make it a cool thing to be thugged out and
to have no vision in life. And you know, bro,
so I just know I'm not.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Loyal to a geographic location, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
I'm loyal to people. But I done seen people in
my neighborhood. It's called the Goose. Right next door to
the Goose is the checkerboard, and I'm seeing people. It's like, bro,
two blocks separate us from them. And y'all got the
nerve to have beef with these dudes to where you're
ready to kill just because the whey they was naturally
born at down the street. Like nothing about that ever

(10:16):
been gangster or appealing to me, you know what I'm saying.
So I got like a relationship with New Orleans where
I don't like saying I'm a product of my environment.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
I think that.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
God ordained me to make my environment be a product
of me, because I wasn't. I wasn't just poured into
by New Orleans. New Orleans ain't poured into me. People
in New Orleans poured into me. You feel me. How
am I gonna worship a street or a little house
that I grew up in. No, it's the people in
that house, man. So I thank my family. That's why

(10:49):
I wear my Grandpa around my neck to this day, because, Man,
it was people who had me feeling like, Bro, you
can't tell me I'm not rich, even though we far
from rich, but I'm rich in spirit because of the
love that y'all pulled into me, man, And I realized
everybody ain't had that though.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
No, everybody ain't had that, Bros.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
So that's part of that's why I became a rapper, bro, Like,
this was never part of the life game plan.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
I went to college, I graduated, I got a business degree.
I was a middle school teacher. That's dope, man, and
then I became a rapper. It didn't make sense. But
the reason why is because I said, Man, when you're
a rapper, you could be what Memphis Bleak and jay
Z was to us, which is y'all are making music
that's helping us through hard times. Y'all are teaching us

(11:36):
how to wear our hats. You heard me, what name brands?

Speaker 1 (11:39):
It's cool.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
With that being said, with that power, we could change
the whole generation if we take that power seriously. So
I was like, man, I'd rather be a rapper with
the heart of a teacher.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Than be a teacher.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
That's watching all my students follow their favorite.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Rapperah, Man, that's crazy that you just spent that. I
was going to say, like, what sense of kid? Was
you always into Christianity? Like, like, I grew up.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I grew up Catholic.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
So in New Orleans, you know, we got the biggest
population of Black Catholics in the whole country. A whole
bunch of black Catholics in New Orleans is very common.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
It's very normal, right, So.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
I grew up my people had me. Yeah, I go
to church on Sundays. I go take a what first
Communion and second grade, eighth grade Confirmation. I went through
all like the traditional rituals, and then I got out
of my mama house.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Freshman in college, I went to L s U and
bad Ruge that's what's up.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
And when I got to college, all in one year
my best friend in New Orleans got murdered. My girlfriend
I went to college. We had cheated on me with
a couple of football players.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
You heard me, Oh yeah, yeah been yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Why as song as that your chick came out.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Ah, That's why I came out.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
I got cut from the basketball team because I hooped
growing up. Oh wow that show, yeah before the Rappings.
So every rapper, everybody and we saw Hoop Dreams deflate.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
Got caught from the team.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
And then my roommate who I went to college with,
dude started like selling dope out of our dorm room
and decide he wanted to turn from you know, a
college student to a d boy. So you know that
caused me and him to fall out. So all this
happened my freshman year man And that's honestly what made
me realize. Man, I I grew up going to church,

(13:33):
but I don't have a relationship with God, because when
I'm falling on hard times, I'm sitting here thinking about revenge.
I'm sitting here thinking about bet I'm finna meet fire
with fire. You heard me, I'm finna meet hatred with
more hatred. That's not how God teaches us. So I
had to realize, Like I went to church my whole life,
but never really opened the Bible and learned anything from it.
So freshman year of college, that's when I got serious.

(13:56):
I had to encounter with God. Like, you know, you
told me a story off camera, Bro, and thank you
for sharing that about a brother who influenced you growing
up in your building.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
You know what I'm saying. Playing music, church, dude, rest.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
In piece my bro sock and him and his whole
family passed away on going church retreat, a church retreat.
So I went to a church retreat when I was
a freshman in college, and that mug changed my life forever, Bro,
because it made everything just click. It was like, oh,
I get it now, I get who created us. So

(14:28):
we're here, but we're not here to just indulge in
whatever brings us pleasure.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
We're here to bring our creator pleasure.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Then whatever talents we got, oh, we posted to use
those talents to make our create a proud So if
I'm rapping, I gotta rap in a way that.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
God gonna be like, I'm a fan of that.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I rock with that.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
That don't mean you got to be a Christian rap
or a gospeler.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
I don't even know what that is. But they said
come as you are the church.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
You feel me.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I didn't grow as you.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yeah, I grew up on no limit cash, money, rough riders,
rock a feller like the same word. So for me,
it was like I get it now, Man, life ain't
really that difficulty, and when you go through hard times,
if it didn't kill you, it was meant to make
you stronger.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
So I'm like that.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
So since freshman year of college, I've been a whole
new person because I'm like, man, life makes sense now.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
So I see the people that's over that chasing that bag.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
All good, The bag is cool, but the bag shouldn't
replace our creator, you know what I'm saying. I see
the people that's out here that's willing to do anything.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Just to be cool.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
But if I had to choose, I won't try to
be cool in the eyes of eight billion people in
this world. That sounded like a hard job, bro, because
there's a lot of people out here. Or do I
just want to work for the approval of one man?

Speaker 1 (15:44):
One man?

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Sign me up for that all day, because I can't
impress all of y'all. You might be feeling what I'm saying,
but they got somebody in the corner right now.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
That's like family turn is all.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Man, I don't feel this dude talking about that's too
much hardwork to try to impress.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
You will never impress everybody at man, look y'all gonna
feel how y'all feel about me.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
But I'm gonna be sincere, I'm gonna be passionate, I'm
gonna be great at whatever I do.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
But I'm just focused on making God proud.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
See, and I think a lot of things get misconscrewed
with the messages because we might not when we see
what you said, You're doing it for one person to
make God proud. Right when I picked up the pen,
I did it for one person, my mama.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Moms. I wanted to see Mama.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Now, I ain't want to see Mama crying struggling like that.
So it was that was my god, my mom, you
know what I mean. And the inspiration was the struggle,
like it's like I can't live like this. But I
think somewhere along the line, the music changed the way
the message because we were the drug push us, we
in the era of drug use it, you know what

(16:49):
I mean. Like I feel like somewhere I'm not saying
either one is right, but you can't condemn a man
for trying to feed his family by by any means necessary.
It's on some Malcolm x maw any means necessary. I'm
gonna do what I gotta do to feed my family,
but by any means necessary, I'm gonna do what I'm
gonna do to try to kill myself. It is insane.

(17:11):
I feel like that's where were losing them, because to
be a drug user, you on some.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
What To be a drug user, what if you just
a if you're an addict, and you and you you
literally you ever been addicted to anything.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
I'm addicted to money.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
I'm addicted to weed, all right, So what if somebody
condemned you for being addicted to weed?

Speaker 4 (17:29):
But if you were like, yo, I've been doing it
for so long. I've been smoking for so long. I'm
not a bad person, but it's just muscle memory.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
At this point. I used to my big homie boy.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
I used to get crucified jaying them I couldn't even
smoke before the show. They used to take my weed,
take the blunts, and I had the way that after
the show to smoke, so they would be like, nah,
you can't smoke. And then these niggas made the weed
Company and they put me down.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
Oh you stout a little sauty, you stout a little
bad about there.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, yo, shit on me.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Dom could smoking. But one time, I'm gonna be honest.
I say I'm addicted to weed, but really not. My
wife is the one who made me realize I'm not
addicted to anything in this world. I'm addicted to life,
you know what I'm saying, Like, because I remember my wife.
You know, I had a thing where I wouldn't travel
to certain places because you couldn't smoke. He was like,

(18:21):
why I'm going to Dubai, Why I'm going to Singapore,
Why I'm going to Japan?

Speaker 1 (18:24):
And I don't care about these places? Do it? I
can't smoke weed. I'm cool.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
My wife like that's some crackcas shit for real, Like
you really not? You want to alienate a whole part
of the world because you can't smoke. And then I
had to sit back and think, like, damn, my crackad
let me think and I do that, like I take
those trips now for cleansing trips, Like I go for
two weeks just to be like all right, cool, let

(18:49):
me go, you know, cleanse the mind, body, and soul.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Bro, just the chill.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Let me ask you a question, bro, So you said
drug addicts, like how they music get to where we
glorifying being a drug addict? Right before that, it was
glorifying being a drug dealer. What do you think being
a drug dealer creates drug addict?

Speaker 2 (19:11):
But listen, but you can control, they control. We don't
force you to buy drugs, right. I never got on
the block with a with a with a billboard. We
wasn't on the block with billboard poster size, Yo, we
got the work right here. Well, how they knew y'all
had it because they knew where to go? Word of mouth?
Remember drug dealer back there wasn't no social media. It
wasn't no navigation, was nothing. Everything was word of mouth.

(19:32):
Even when buying WI. You heard, yo, these niggas up
the block got it like, oh, let me go up
the block and see what they got like. Everything was
word of mouth. In the eighties and early nineties, there
was no You had to go to the payphone to
make a phone call. So that think how long that
took to get dressed in the crib, put on your clothes, go.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Outside, walk to the store, make sure.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Nobody ain't using the phone, because now you gotta wait
if somebody on the phone for you to make that
call your fam. You got that they're on ana pull up.
That was too much. You had to walk around and
find out talk to people, talk to people in word
of mouth was everything. But then you gotta remember what
created the addicts in that era war That was a
lot of vets came back addic.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
So we we didn't create them, right, y'all take advantage
of them. No, we didn't take advent.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
We took advantage of the situation because we didn't create
the drugs neither.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
We didn't bring that here. We didn't make with coco
leaf was in Marcy. We didn't bring that here. So
you can't put that on us and be like, yo,
that's y'all ful, because think about it, How can I
put this in perspective to make it make sense. If
I open the vote and tell you yo, for you

(20:41):
to get this money, you gotta do it. You gotta
take this on the block, sell us lemonade. You're gonna
be like, nah, nah, I'm gonna go sell some lemonade
if I gonna get to that vote. So you gotta
remember that was the thing to every young hustler back
then in the eighties. These guys when you think of
rich Porter al Pole, the New York Hustlers, the fuck Man,

(21:03):
all these guys, you name them, it's too many of
the name Nikki Bonds. Bro, these things you make a
million dollars a day. You don't think that's enticing to
a kid.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
It's enticed to a kid an adult too, and an adult.
I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
If I if I open a shoe store and I'm
selling Jordan's in that shoe store, right, and I'm selling
all kind of jaz I'm just moving, moving, moving these
jas by the boat load. And then I'm making music
about Jordan's and how dope they look in the color
ways and all this type of stuff. And then if
I look back.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Five years later and be like, man, everybody walking around
the streets got Jordan's on.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
What's wrong with y'all? Why y'all wearing Jordan's. We're supposed
to be wearing something else.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
It's like, Bro, I made this stuff seem way cooler
than it was, because when you put it into.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Music, music makes anything sound way cooler.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Than What's no song that I'm a drug dealer. I'm
a crack dealer. Tell me what song? We might say
the one two, but there's no song. What we're telling you?
Like how you got them songs?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Now?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Miley Perker said, with no song, the fish scale this
on the hook. We might have said it dibbled and dabbling,
but we ain't have no song where we was just
you say.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
We Who are you talking about? My era? Your eerr
my era?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I connect so fat Joe don't have songs talking about crack.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Crack crack, crack crack bro Joe crack, No, not Joe crack.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
No, that's his nickname because he ain't glorified selling crack.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Right by right your name D one, We could say
D one because that was D one.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
What with D one?

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Basketball player? I like that? Yeah, that's but nigga.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
If it wasn't on that message, it coulda be like
D one, what one with the gun, one with that strap,
one with that work like it could mean anything just
because we eliet. Remember, crack might not even be called crack.
We named it that in America. It's coca leafs cocaine.
We cooked it and called the crack. It could have
been a different.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Name the fresh sh Uh.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
When my coat come in, they gotta use this nall
that they weigh the whales with our nigga. Listen, my
tom coming these too, cocaine white and now operation is sweet.
But this is a business we was. We wasn't glorified
like yo, the drug dealers, the line around the block,
the crack cats, we were broke. We didn't make them

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smoke crack. This is a difference now when you are
willingly sitting here and telling me, Yo, pop this moley,
pop this perk like me.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
That's a big difference. We didn't music could tell you.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Smoke crack, and especially if you're not right.

Speaker 5 (23:43):
This is my thing.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
If white people, if white people man as black people,
I just feel like as black people, we man. We
we be so we be the first people to get
offended by something, yes, but we're the last people to
want to be held accountable for that same thing.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
If a white person was to come out and make
a rap song about selling crack in the.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Hood and moving work.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Or or let alone, I'm gonna kill this nigga da
d D this type of stuff, man, we be so
quick to hey, get him canceled and said we're Finna
go ride on him. But we make these type of
songs about doing it to ourselves.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Man, it's all that.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
That's number one on the that's number one on the countdown.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Correct you on that we wanted to have Slim Jesus.
If that was the case, you can't name a Slim
Jesus song. If so, I hear all the money in
my pocket, I can't, but I know that name.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
But wow, because he had a way, but White America
never made him mainstream. We made we made out need
the mainstream.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
We made Percoset, Miley Percoset mainstream.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
You heard me and the white people sitting back like,
if y'all gonna do it like we're gonna make money
off of we blame them, but exactly exactly, but we
be so quick they be mad at d one.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Man, you're always calling out rappers and you're calling out
hip hop.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Bro, I have access to rappers and hip hop. I
pray did the hip hop community could say, Man, if
we don't love ourselves first, how we expect some executives
to love us more than we're gonna love ourselves.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I agree with you, But you know, every genre of
music produced drugs, right.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Every genre every du drug But but people not getting rico.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Charges in every genre of music.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
But they're not getting rico charges for drugs. They didn't
get rico charges for gang activity.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
It's only in hip hop though. I ain't never seen
an R and B artist or country artists get a
rico charge. Uh, you know, you just stopped me.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
I was about to say something, but that's like, Yo, you're.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Right, garden Brooks, he got a record.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Come on, but listen, they don't exploit their crimes like
they do ours, so you can't.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
We might not never know.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
We rap about our crimes now we didn't back then.
Now now say we about that?

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Okay, right, Oh so I'm glad you said there's a
difference between what's going on now and what was right
that being said, this is the first ever in hip
hop where you got cats that are in their fifties
and sixties, Like I know, you got some artists in
like Public Enemy. I just co wrote two songs on
Public Enemies new album. I know them brothers, Chuck D
and flav theyre in the sixties and.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
They've been pushing that message for a man.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
You got rappers in their sixties, and you got rappers
this fifteen and sixteen all at once.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
And it's all called hip hop. Right.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
With that being said, it's the first time in history
where we have an opportunity for the OG's in hip hop,
let's say, like thirty five and up, to be like Yo,
we survived the trenches.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
We know what it's like to make it out, and
we know better now.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
So I think it's the obligation of the OJ's in
hip hop, myself included, to pour into that younger generation
and see the mistakes they making and be like the same.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Way we will with our kids. Hey, I see my
kid going down the wrong pad.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
Oh no, I'm gonna teach you how to drive that
car the right way because I see the way you driving,
You're finna run into another car.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
And you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
That led me to why even did my last project,
Apartment three D shoutow my guy cheach Like I said,
My whole thing was I'm forty seven, brom not. I'm
not that sixteen year old kid from Fresh off the
Black who was just making music for my dogs on
the block. I didn't know my impact was gonna touch
the world world. All I knew I wanted the girls

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in high school and on my block.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
They know I was that nigga, Like that was it?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
So to make it this far and do all of
this shit, I told my god cheat, like if I'm
anna make a album now, I'm not gonna come back
acting like I'm that guy on the block, or like
we coming to take over.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
We want our strip back. Now.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
We're gonna give you the game to let you know
it's life out after the strip once you.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Make that money.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
The things they didn't teach me as a kid that
when you do get your money off the strip, go
open that business, open up that LLC, go invest in this.
You know, one percent of something that's better than one
hundred percent of nothing. So that was my whole mentality
making this project. So I feel you when you say
it's up for the Ogs to give back and and
give gang. I felt like in my era they did that.

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I had the big Daddy Kynes, the rock Coms, the
you know, rest of Peace biz Mark. You had to
slick ricks where the message and the knowledge was there.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
It's just what you do with it. What you doing
it could be right there.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Like you said, you went to school with a homie.
He in college bro and he wanted to be adult dealer.
I dreamed of, yo, Bro. My first time going to
college was doing a show. I never even knew what
college looked like until I had a show out of
college and was looking around, like, this is what I
missed for the black So I almost felt almost like, damn,

(28:39):
I missed out on a portion of life because I
wanted to be on the block and get money. But
at the end of the day, my message and my
goal still remained.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Mama couldn't go through that.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I had no pops, my brother in jails, just me
and my little sister.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
What I'm gonna do? Wait? Time waits for no man.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Wow, man, thank you for being a part of the shift, bro,
because shift that is happening in rights and you're a
part of it because you are OG. That's embracing your
new maturity that you've reached, and like, not all the
ogs are doing that.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
And I know the reason why they're not.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
I never met a OG in hip hop who is
a bad person at the core. They're just afraid that
if they show their more mature side that they bag
is gonna get impacted. They're afraid that the block ain't
gonna respect them as much. They're afraid to make an
Apartment three D album because they feel like, man, my
fans ain't trying to hear no message in my music.

(29:32):
They're not bad people, but they're afraid to do that.
So I love highlighting the OG's.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
The Memphis Bleaks, the styles P's styles my God, the
Killer MIC's, you.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Know what I'm saying, The Willy D's of the world,
the mister Fabs of the world.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
I love the mag Phipps's of the world.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Like the people who y'all doing it, bro y'all doing it,
and y'all making y'all peers look at y'all and be like,
dangn bleak did it? Maybe I could because these ain't
bad dudes that we're dealing with, but they're still they fifty,
but they're still trying to play the role that they
had to play when it was twenty and see.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
That's where I I don't like the rap game when
it comes to that, because integrity is everything to me
and music. What you say, who you say you are,
you have to stand on that and be that being
a man and being me. It's not an image I
can't portray that. You can't keep that up so artists

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that you run into and they still trying to keep
up something they was twenty years ago.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
That's how you know that's not them. You know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (30:39):
It's not just think about it. You don't wake up
and put on the d one. I just dome be like,
oh I'm me Now, this is just you. Life comes,
you go with it as it goes. And anybody that
got to portray a role. That's why Jay used to
always say, I tell people a lot man. Jay used
to tell us, integrity is everything. When the lines stopped,
the rhyme stop, when the lies stop, the rhymes stop. Wow,

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you were sitting there lyon you and your rhymes, Lion,
that's not you, right, you know what I'm saying. So
when the lies run out, the rhymes run out. Wow,
you know what I'm saying. So that's what our whole
thing was. Integrity and being true to self and who
you who you are, don't don't get in that booth
and just acting like you something that you not. If
you're a cool guy, be a cool guy. If you'll

(31:27):
killer say that. If you not say that, it's cool,
nobody like it. It's a think about it. We produce
Kanye West. Bro, like people give us like I see
you was on us, Like, yeah, y'all era, Bro, we
brought the college dropout, that whole cool kid, not using drugs,
not smoking weed, college dropout. But I'm a successful businessman

(31:50):
that produced the Kendricks, the j Coles. All that era
now came from us, so we don't get credit for that. Yeah,
y'all also produced Damn Damn. No, Damn Dash produced Dame
Dash word yeah, because he didn't produce Daing Dash.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah. I just feel like the era of Damn. You
don't like dang Oh.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
I don't have a problem with Damn.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
I love Dame. I feel like, uh man, I feel
bad for Damn.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Why why?

Speaker 4 (32:18):
I just feel like he's a prisoner of the persona
he created thirty years ago, you know what I mean?
Like nobody nobody is like tripping on having a flex
on how big their house is nowadays, nobody's tripping on
had Like everybody's like past that. It's like, bro, we're alive. Bro, God,
it's been good to all of us.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
It's cool.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
It's not an ego, it's not a pisson contest anymore.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
And that's let me stop you. That's not Dang, that's Harlem.
That's hall of that's Halem Bro. That's hall Them.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Let me, that's HALLM. They doing that ship with sneakers,
really hats, really watches shirt and they that's HALLM. They compete,
They born to compete. Yo, I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
You see Kim and Max, Yeah, my man, super close.
It's not like it's on purpose. I'm not.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
That's why I'm not gonna say it's Dang fault. That's
his habitat, that's his environment.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
That's Harlem Bro.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
You like, it's almost him dropping a Harlem flag if
he don't brag like real talk, it's almost like I'm
not from Harlem no more.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
If I ain't gonna drag my nuts a little bit,
and it's time we dropped some flags. Though.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
You got a lot of fake gang bangers out. Yeah,
there's been ganging banging.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
For too long time to drop them flags.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I ain't with none of that, man, I'm neutral with that.
I ain't never been in that gang life.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
It's not something we grew up on in New York
City and Brooklyn.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
We didn't have it in New Orleans either till like
when when Lil Wayne started repping. Uh being a blood
you know what I'm saying. That was like that made
everybody in New Orleans be.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Like, huh, but I ain't see no blood coaching in
New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
That's crazy. I didn't ce yo, Bro, I've been out there.
I got a couple peoples at my home. Girl she
ordained out there. My Girlina, she just got ordained. She
ran out there like doing big, big work. And I'm
trying to be out there with the folks moving around. Bro,
I never seen a blood and.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
In that there was an error. There was an era
after Hurricane Katrina. You heard me to where definitely had
a blood presence and a blood culture in New Orleans.
And it just shows the power of hip hop. That
was only because everybody in our city look up to
Lil Wayne, you know, as a rapper, and it's like,

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oh Wayne repping blood. So you had some people that
was like, bet we're following that. So the influence that
hip hop has is something where, Bro, I hate when
people tell me it's just entertainment. I'm just rapping about this. Yeah,
I'm rapping about Miley Purkos said. Miley Perkins said, but
it's just entertainment. We got to stop with that, BS,
It's just entertainment, no, bro. Hip Hop literally is the

(34:56):
soundtrack to whatever we want to make cool, we want
to cancel, whatever we want to prioritize in life. Hip
Hop has the ability to speak truth to power or
to speak.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Lies to power. True, But movies do too, shows do too.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
But once again, that's us pointing fingers. Let's just focus
on what we could control, bro.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
But it's all the same message. This is what I'm
telling you.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
If I go if I listen to a song that's
telling me trap, shoot, kill, then I go watch a
movie where they trapping shoe and killing, and then I
go outside and they trapping shoe and killing. What I'm
supposed to do, Bro, Well, you can't. That's not pointing
a finger.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
That's all you.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
That's that's that's it's drowning you.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
You.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
And it's like singer swim. It's like I gotta I
gotta swim, right.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
I think.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
I just think they hip hop like people afraid. Everybody
want to be Luke Walm in hip hop. That's the problem.
Everybody is like, Man, I don't want to be all
the way negative.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
But I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Be all the way on some positive real stuff, either
like everybody's like.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Let me play it, nah man, that's whack. If they real,
is real, is real? There is no halfway real, either
you all the way real or you thinking the funk
what they used to say back in the day, because
you can't portray real. And what I'm saying is no
rapper in history has ever made me wanna put it

(36:20):
like this. I used to as a kid, I used
to glorify guns. Used to be like damn because we
had dirty guns. There was no license in New York
to walk in the gun store and buy a pretty new,
brand new out the box gun. So any guns we
got with dirty bullshits like you no hand downs. So
when I first started seeing nice guns, was like, oh shit.

(36:42):
But it wasn't until I saw Desperado that I fell
in love with a P eighty nine.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
No rapper did that to me seeing that guitar case
did that. So it's the same influence, That's what I'm saying,
whether it come from the music, the movies, It was
in the vice them in two, So it's not the
rapper so f and we only can't change it because
we have positive rappers that they drowned out.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
They sound.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
We have positive movies, you know what I mean seeing
they on TV and they try to make to be
like that.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Ain't nothing.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
That's where the b roll movies go. No, that's where
some good movies.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Is at too.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
So you know, it's all about your preference. And I
just feel like America as a whole when you travel
the world, you look at the speed they let their
countries go. We the auto bonn bro just a auto barn.
You half the ship that we do in America. You

(37:40):
can never do first. But you can't even chew gum
in Singapore. It's a felony. What right, So bring a
pack of gum to Singapore and I might not see.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
You like that, Brittney grind for gum?

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Wow, you feel me like jaywalking? Like member, you heard
about jaywalking there. I had to pay five year rowd
on the street to the police in Germany.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Right now, No, ain't no golden the ain't m nothing.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
You don't have it in your pocket, hands behind your
back for jaywalking.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, so other countries they're not playing them games. No.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
So I'm telling you it's zero to one hundred in
America and we at one hundred.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
All the time. Yeah, like yeah, so watch this.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
I just look at it like this, Bro, when we
choose to get into hip hop, and when we see like, man,
I really got hundreds of thousands of followers that when
I say something, they listen to it, they memorized my
lyrics like they really on me. Bro, we got to
decide do we want to spend our lives complaining about
problems or being a part of the solution.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
To the problems we see.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
And I think in hip hop, if we could get
just a few people, there's something called a three point
five percent rule. It says that in countries all around
the world, there's been pro that when you can only
get three point five percent of the population to unify
and say, hey, we're gonna come together to overthrow what's

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in power right now, right all you need is three
point five percent of unified people that's on the same page,
same mission, and you.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Can overthrow what the power structure is.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
I feel like in hip hop we have enough influencing, cloud, money,
uh taste, and skill set to be able to say, man,
if we want to use our power in hip hop
to overthrow all of the power structures that we see
that's holding our people back. Hip hop could literally change

(39:37):
the state of the black community.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
All of the wealth that we have.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
In hip hop, all of the what I know you,
I know you're not hurting.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
I can tell you if we can, but it's not
gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
We tried, bro, we had We are the world, that's
what yo. We had stop the violence, Self Destruction all
that just one song.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
But this's gotta be a that you're willing to die.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
So I think in eighty eight when Self Destruction came out,
they sold more drugs.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
But that's how crazy people are, yes, because here's the.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Message just there. The path is there, people ain't willing
to follow.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Bro. Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
When you create the addict, you can't get mad when
the addict is willing to die to protect the drug dealer,
because they're like, man, that drug dealer.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Is like God to me.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
You helped create the addict, and then you get mad
when the addict wants to ride or die behind the
drug dealer. In hip hop, all these fans, the people
that's watching this podcast, half of them are addicts. They
literally have a taste for murder music. They have a
taste for music that.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Is glorifying disrespecting women is selling dope. They are addicts
and they love they favor rappers so much that when
a rapper like me come along and just be like, hey, bro,
I mean, were making music glorifying murder, Like come on,
and I might say.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
A few people name or call a few people out.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Just because these are some of the people making the music.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Their fans aka their addicts. They're ready to go to
war with me. Attack you.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, literally, I see it online. You be having all
the smoke. I see it, and look what I'm at,
and you go for it. That's why I love your resilience,
your resentment, your rebellion. You bro, you push through everything
that people thought when the system is against you. You
broke all those stereotypes. Like you are one man army,

(41:30):
like you said, you coming in going against some of
the top dogs, gunning at everybody, and you still here.
And I know when you walk the street, you probably
be shocked back how respected and accepted you are in
the hip hop community because you give a lot of
power to the hip hop community. But I blame our
race and our culture because we come together for a concert,

(41:54):
we come together for a show, we come together for
a release of a new sneaker, you.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
But we don't come together to do anything positive. So
it's not just music.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
We had that problem with Martin Luther, King, Malcolm Meggs,
all these people. Like That's what I'm saying. The fight
that you fighting has been going on for centuries. Bro's
it's not like a you verse them or them versus you.
It's like, how do you get the message to the
masses the way they accept the message? Because it's not

(42:28):
through the music. Bro, we had music that said the message.
I tell you how I think kr res One went
from shoot them Up Bang Bang to philosopher for teacher.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
You feel me Like, yeah, yeah, that's my favorite rapper. Pharrell,
Oh I love krst One. Shout to him, Chuck de like,
some brothers paid away for somebody like me. That's what
I'm saying, Bro, Watch this. Joelle Santana just did something amazing.
He denounced what he used to promote. He used to
be promoting double Cupped up on It on that drain.

(43:01):
He just went on a podcast and was like, Hey,
I was wrong for that. That's the most gangster thing
that your generation could do in hip hop right now?

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Hey, y'all, I was young. I was twenty years old.
I respect you so much when you tell me that,
d I was twenty years old when I made this song.
I was promoting this.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
But now I'm forty seven, and guess what, I know
that some of that stuff I said that wasn't right.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
I'm on this now. The fact, the fact that you're
still here. People respect your generation as much now as
we did back then. We respect you more because really,
only y'all are doing better, you know what I'm saying.
And I looked at it as our fans grew with us.
So we can't still be talking that block talk because
the average person who was on the block when we

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was on the block, now I ain't got three kids
in the job right now. He in the garage, hid
from his wife that he's still smoke, so he don't
want to hear that music. I couldn't make that music, no, boy,
you feel me? So you know Jerry Jones is yeah,
football on up, yeah yeah Dallas.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
The black community got mad at Jared Jones because he
was in a picture from.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
The nineteen sixty Yeah I seen and.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Not wanting a school to be desegregated. Ya, So they
was like, you gotta apologize for that.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Well, we ain't rocking with the cowboys no more.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
But the black community not asking our rappers who was
glorifying murder and glorifying drug dealing and all that to say, oh, well,
y'all got to come.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Out and denounce what you used to promote.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
We don't want that same level of accountability from our
people because it's really not glorification. Bro Like a lot
of people, yeah, it was glorifying. No listen, I feel
like if you are an artist who didn't live that life
and you portray it through your music, then yes, you're glorifying.
You're making a profit off of life that you didn't
even live, or contributing.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
I agree to that. All a lot of us broke.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
We were involved, and all we knew was the talk,
what we saw, what we went through.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yo. As you grow, the music changes.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Like I think from my first album Coming to Age,
that shit was all about I still take caps to
the capsule spot. You know, everything was the first and fifteenth,
but then when I got some money, it became' wait
a minute, do my ladies running this?

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Well? Do my fellas run this? Like?

Speaker 2 (45:14):
So it grows and then think as in more money
came you listen to my maid album. My made album
was me talking about all the homies that died, my
brother amost dying, like the struggles of being an artist
and trends, your transition from going to the street guy
to trying to be this.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Family business man. It was all of that. It's just
people don't want to hear that. Bro.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
It's like they wasn't ready for I ain't gonna say
they don't want to hear it. The message and the
timing wasn't right because timing is everything.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Timing is everything. I don't think there's ever a bad
time to do the right thing. No, never, never, even
if it don't sell as much as doing the wrong thing,
Because the devil is smart. The devil is gonna be like, man,
I'm gonna make doing the wrong thing sell quadruple with
doing the right thing is gonna sell, because then what
that's gonna do. That's gonna centivize a young black man

(46:05):
to say, I'm just gonna keep girl finding the wrong
thing because it sells more.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
But I think a lot of people got a miscunscrewed that.
The industry, like the executives tell the artists to make
this music because I see that message going around too, like, yeah,
they not gonna put your record out.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
If you're not talking this.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
There's no ANR in the room telling you, yo, yo,
you need to mention the glack a little bit more.
You ain't mentioned the drugs enough perking this line. Take
that out, say Miley, like, they don't go down like that.
It's us as creators that we create the music. They
go play it in they A and R meeting, They
look at the interns, they get hyped. They like this

(46:41):
the one we going with that, and that's ninety percent
how music comes out to.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
You're taking accountability, Thank you, brother, Like we teammates, bro, that's.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Why we are Bro.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
We don't made That's why I wanted to have you
on the platform because when I see what you're doing
and what you represent.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
I'm like, I get it. I get it.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
But the one thing I just wanted to tell you
it ain't all out for that was that was the
only thing I wanted to tell you, Like, yeah, we respond,
we played the responsibility in it.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
But it was not all off.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
For all we doing is playing the game that was
left to us, and they left the door and it
said it's money in there. They can say, oh word,
that's all I got to do to get something, and
it's gonna change life. And then once they did, you see,
you see my big homie. He threw way more good.
People talk about ship that Jay did twenty years ago
and don't even know what he into today. Jay them

(47:32):
post bail and free more incarcerated criminals than any legislator
and any of these dudes I Borough presidents in any
of them. But he don't get he don't get credit
for that.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
He should. You know what I'm saying, He should shout
Zan he should.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Him and his white biled out member the riots. What
was the George Floyd wires? They bailed out everybody that
got locked up. Nobody talk about that.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yeah, that we should. We have to.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
We have to make doing the right thing cool.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Like he had even with the police thing. He going
against the police in Kansas City. A lot of people
don't even know about that that he got the chief
of police I think locked up in Kansas City for
a crime, a race crime they did, and he don't
want to hire the attorneys in Orland going against them
out there like it's a lot of shit that go
on down. I just feel like us as media don't

(48:22):
cover and that's why I started this platform too. Oh man.
It was like yeah, because when you turn on podcasts,
you turn on any type of urban media outlet, first
thing you hear is what crime you committed?

Speaker 1 (48:37):
What girls you was.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Fucking, and what executive or business partner you don't like?

Speaker 1 (48:43):
No more?

Speaker 4 (48:44):
Man, bro you so so Honor Washington. I ran into
Burman in Las Vegas at the verses, right, So Burrman
was in the middle of like he was going off
on somebody outside the verses, like he was going off
on him, like for real, and so I like, I
stepped in, and I know Birdman knows me, so I
knew when he see me, it probably changed the temperature

(49:05):
in the room, right, And it did.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
And we had a real good exchange and he was
I'm proud of you. I want to do a song
with you, lie and show love.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
There was a big media outlet, a big black media outlet,
right that hit me up in my DM, like, YO
were asking for permission to post this video, right, But
I know that because he was going off on somebody
in the beginning of the clip. I'm knowing like, hey,
can y'all let me know what the headline is gonna say?
Because I don't want y'all to paint him in the
wrong light and make it seem like it's some whole

(49:34):
other you know what I mean. I asked them, hey,
what's the headline gonna be? Because I asked that before
I gave them permission to post it. They just didn't
post it.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
That let me know.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
They was gonna go with the clickbait with some negativity.
And this is a black outlet, bro. So you so right, bro?
People like, when are we gonna be more about impact
than clicks? Because sometimes making more impact means you gonna
get a few less clicks.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Right, you feel me? That's right.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
But that's why you gotta be smart with your money,
because when you got a spoted Vegas like you just
overdun or when you got a real estate or stock portfolio.
You know what I'm saying, Like myself, it's like, hey,
I'm cool with getting a few less clicks to know
I'm doing the.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Right thing in God's eye. That's right, you feel me?

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Because all my bag ain't ain't contingent upon man, I
gotta go viral every week, I ain't gonna be able
to pay my bill and viral is no money in viral.
If you're not selling something, what are you viral?

Speaker 1 (50:31):
What? What are you getting paid?

Speaker 6 (50:32):
Telling people that I've been viral for the last six months.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
If you ain't watching the podcast, I ain't making no
money off that viral shit.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Like what we're selling.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
I don't have no shirts or no hoodies for sales.
That's the only time I feel like going viral pays.
Like if you marking in the produduct, then yeah, go viral,
do your thing because you want your product on the forefront,
you want anytbody to know. But if you just out
there talking ship y'all, I slept with twenty events, what's that?
What check coming from that? Let's Playboy hiring you? And
they hired girls. I ain't seen the Playboy man model

(51:04):
get hired in years.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
Knowing am I looking?

Speaker 1 (51:06):
I'm not exactly what they just gave Cardy be a bag.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
She ain't even posed for none of that, but just
she represents that sexuality.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Like these guys get on these platforms and tell these
stories and I'll just be sitting there looking like yo,
fam what like, all right, you committed twenty crimes ten
years ago.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Why we needed to know that? Right now?

Speaker 5 (51:26):
All they want is attention.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
But yeah, it's like attention became the new currency. Like
they rather be seen than paid, And I don't get that.
Like I feel like, if you ask a million people today,
would you rather be famous or rich?

Speaker 1 (51:41):
I think they're gonna pick faan.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
I think seven hundred thousand, I'm gonna pick fans three
hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
I'm gonna be like, give me, give me the money, Yeah,
because I don't think people think being famous means you
get money.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
No, you just popular.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
You have to do something for people to pay you
for your popularity just to be popular.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
You just popular.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Do you feel like this path you chose of like
you called out a few rappers doing this, do you
feel like that hurts you in any way?

Speaker 4 (52:08):
No, brother, I'm right, Well, God has or dann neb
I've turned down record deals before. I've made decisions that
weren't popular at the time.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
But I had peace in my spirit and that peace
is priceless.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
So me calling out rappers, nobody ever talks about the
fact that prior to me calling them out, I said,
I love you too much to not be honest with you.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
If I didn't love you, keep being a crash out.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
I don't care what y'all do whatever, but I love
y'all too much to not be honest.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
I know you got better in you. You know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
I've been working with human beings my whole life. I
know when somebody just mentally.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Is retarded and it's like, you don't know no better.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
You feel me, But I'm just like, oh no, we're
dealing with people that clearly know way better. But it's
just like, damn man, Like, I'm curious, bro, like why
you still show casing the lowest version of who you
are when you're so intelligent and so gifted.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
You know?

Speaker 5 (53:05):
So for me, bro calling.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Out rappers you know, styles P gave me some advice
and it changed my life. Instead of calling out rappers,
I'm here to start calling in rappers and say, hey,
you can live your life how you want to, but
let's make the world better for these babies, for that
next generation coming up. So with that being said, brother,

(53:29):
we need to be teammates. You know, we can't be opps.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
We can't be.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
Beefing because we both care about our sons, daughters, little
brothers and their sister. So styles P told me that,
and I got goosebumps bro across my whole body.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
You just killed me with that.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Stop letting calling people out and call people in.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
And ever since I did that, life being way better.
Me and Jim Jones saw each other. That was somebody
we had issues, you know what I'm saying. And he said,
whenever we see each other, look the other way. The
don't even come near me. But when we saw each other,
he reached his hand out first, you know what I mean,
gave it that. We didn't have a long conversation or nothing,
but on some man time bound me and Meek Mill

(54:05):
got to chop it up as men in the club
in New Orleans during Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Good like these are with me and.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
Joe Budden, Joe Budden shouting me out on this podcast
now before Joe Budden was at my top.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
So instead of calling people out, it's about calling people in.
And I think that the energy that I that I
move with is something where I want people to say.
I might not always agree with what he's saying, but
I always resonate with why he is doing the work
that he's doing. I just want to make the world better, bro,

(54:37):
And I know I got an expiration date, just like
we all do. And for some of us, we might
be in the second half of our life.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
You heard me, it might be after halftime.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
For some of us, share in the third quarter. The
third quarter my jip.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
So with that being said, I'm like, man, I got
to move with a sense of urgency about unlocking the
greatness inside of people because in our community hip hop,
so many people are great, but they've been rewarded their
whole career for showcasing negativity, ratchetness, and sin, so they
never even got to showcase their greatness and their guardedness.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
And I'm trying to help people unlock it.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Man.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
I ran into Noorri last night for the first time ever.
Norway said, I am a.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Fan of you.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
He said, I look at your videos every morning to
put me in a positive mindset to start my day off.
He said, I wonder, like, how do you constantly do
this with the energy you do it with? And he
literally said, he said, you the chosen one to help
shift the whole hip hop culture.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
There's always one man. I always say that it's always
one that they is the voice of reasoning for the community.
It's always one. You're gonna always get that weather. It's
in movies, music, philanthropy, books like, it's always going to
be that standout. And you're definitely a standout pillar in
our community that we needed in this young generation, young

(55:59):
Arab because when you got a young son, like think
about it, it comes a boy. I'm like I said,
I'm forty seven, my son twenty two. Then God I
raised them and kept them out of that that life
that I went down that path. But still I still
feel like sometimes my message get lost in a crowd.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
Of everybody else around him that's pushing negativity.

Speaker 1 (56:21):

Speaker 2 (56:21):
So music, yeah, it's cool. How do you get your
message to resonate? So when you see people like you
come on the scene, I know that no matter what
he watching that video gonna come across the side.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
I'm in that algorithm, you know what I'm saying THATTHM.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
He's gonna get that balance. And I feel like the
culture look like we lost our way because there was
no balance.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Remember when I was a kid, it was a balance.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
You had African Bam body you had public enemy. You
had like I said, you had slick Rick, but then
you had your rock Kiemns and your big Daddy Canes too.
You know what I'm saying there, And now we're ever
coming up number you had arrested development you had. You
know what I'm saying you had the fooljis that you
also had more deep You know, it was a balance

(57:11):
where today it's no balance.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
It's just the scale is just tipped.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
Can I say something to tell you brother, I don't
want no balance. I don't want no negativity. Glorified negativity
is going to exist in the world all day and
we need to narrate the negativity and talk about it.
But I don't want balance in saying we need to
glorify some negativity and glorify some positivity.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
But I don't think it's glorifying. I think it's talking
about what you.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Know, purpose said my live purpose. That's not violence, that's drugs, that's.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
Drugs, But it's glorifying drugs, making drugs sound cool.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Yeah, Glorifying murder now, that's that.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
That's your young niggas is walid to talk about a
crime that you actually committed and then go, let I've
and want to commit another one.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
I'm with ye, good bro. But but listen, let's go
back to the drug music. What about White Lines? Blow?
You ain't feel a way about that?

Speaker 4 (58:14):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (58:14):
I don't know what that is.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
You don't know the song white Line? Oh yeah, he
said he not, I got it. He might be on
the third floor. I don't think I want to flow yet.
The white song white Lines asks Mama love or pop duke.
They're gonna tell you that was that ship in the eighties,
like look at look at Scarface? What was the other
sort of flash flash flash of.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
The ya yo okay okay, like yeah, they.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Had their bro. Drug music has been here forever. We
don't even know what Punjabi saying on the joint with Jay.
He could be saying some Indian drug shit. We don't
even know. Have that song been translated yet? When you
don't have a clue, man, this is what I'm saying,

(58:59):
Drugs has been glorified in the music because my manager
back in the day, I remember my first time going
to London, Bro, my first time ever going to London.
And this is why I'm gonna tell you this story,
Because I'm saying drugs is in every genre of music
where I'm looking for weed. And I remember my manager
he didn't smoke. My manager be how shout out be
how he don't smoke to this day, real businessman, and

(59:23):
he was like, bleak, you're in the music business. All
music has drugs. I don't give a fuck. If you
in R and B, you in gospel, you in rock
and roll. There's hard drugs everywhere. You need to just
find where they sell mixtapes at. I bet you wherever
you find a clue tape, you find weed. And I'm like,
I'm in London. Fuck, I'm gonna find a clue tape.

(59:44):
I started doing this is when my space just launched.
At might Wear, the underground music store at Bro. I
bought a dimebag and a clue tape in London my
first time. So that's when I knew, damn, if I
wanted some coke, then I had to.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Go in to the rock and roll barlock. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
So it's here, bro, like, I understand your your fight,
like you, but this should.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Have been going on before we was born. Bro, but
we could stop it. You're never gonna stop why it's
never gonna man, never never is not don't register to
me the word never.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
They told me I'd never be sitting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
On the couch.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
And it's some people that can't survive without it. Like,
think about it. When they get a person off heroin,
how do you think they get a drug addict off heroin?

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Off hero I don't know what. They give you more,
They give you more.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Yeah, the morephine they get you, they give you more.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Like so they put you on the legal one now, right,
so they get you off the legal one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
We're gonna give you I version of it to where you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Gotta, yo, bro. It's people that take heroin and morphine
that if they stop, they're gonna die.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
But the strongest drug in this world is love, and
that right there, that's all we need at then.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Yeah, but that ain't that, yo bro.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
When them bills are stacked and that man naga ain't
talk about the lights going cut up, That hug ain't
gonna make you feel better.

Speaker 6 (01:01:03):
That hug got gonna make you feel better. I need
that blood, but keep it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
But that hero ain't gonna ain't going Oh, they ain't gonna.
They've been lost. The bills.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
When they get to that they on the street, they
ain't even talking about that. The Miley Perper said, God,
that's probably why they doing it to get away. You know,
I lost a nephew to you know, fitting on to
you know what I mean, these these fake drugs and
all of that, And I wish that I had that
opportunity to really mold them because I want to. When
I think about them, I think, when did my nephew

(01:01:35):
lose his way and stop with the drink and the
smoke Because me, I'm a person. Yeah, I'm gonna smoke
my weed. I'm gonna drink my duce, but I know
my limit. I know when I'm high, I don't need
that blunt no more.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I'm drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Let me put that drink down. I tell all my friends,
I want to get high. I don't want to sky dive.
These kids today, these niggas jumping out the plane Scott
diving with no parachute with these drugs they doing like
the mushrooms.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
That was that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I felt like the mushrooms in the Malli came like
in our era a little bit because I seen a
lot of artists, like you know, a lot of artists
was fucking with the ecstasy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
That's what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
It wasn't even the mally ecstasy. Yeah, everybody was on, but.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
They was on that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
They were saying, yeah, this get the girls, the girls
get freaky, you can have the freak offs with this.
I always felt like, why need a drug to get
the girls to get free? If this don't work, then
we ain't gonna be freaking you feel me? So that's
been me. I never went further than this in that
blunt man.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
People in this era they chasing either pleasure or paper.
But what they don't realize is pleasure and paper can
both be found in purpose. And they're not chasing purpose
because they going for the low hanging fruit. Oh the
quick pleasure, quick high. Let me get loaded, da da paper,
Let me get to the bag. But beyond both of

(01:02:59):
those low hanging fruit is purpose. And when that purpose
is tied into understanding what clicked for me when I
was a freshman in college, like, man, life ain't that bad.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
After all, God loved me enough to create me.

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
God gave me some gifts, some talents, and all I
gotta do is use them in a way that's gonna
make this world better. And when bad things happen, there's
a lesson that I can learn from every loss that I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Take in life.

Speaker 4 (01:03:23):
And when you look at life like that, it's just
like I don't feel as much pressure to chase the
pleasure in the paper because my pursuit of my purpose,
my God given purpose, it keeps me occupied, and it
keeps me paid, and it keeps me at peace. And
that's what I want to push to this generation.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
That's right, Pieces, but shit and the words are tupac
It'll never be peace.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Man. This world was built on bloodshed.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Bro, Like I understand, Like I understand. You know where
piece is for me, my sanctuary, my home crib. That's
when I walk in that house, I feel like that's
when I'm my God down not I can let everything go.
I don't have to portray all work to please my family.
My wife is my wife, my kids is my kids.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
I just I just had a self revelation about myself, bro,
talking to you, because I feel like you like a
big brother too. I don't have a big brother in
real life. You're like a big brother type of figure.
Like I'm like, I like this, dude, live.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
I appreciate you. So watch this.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
I realize something talking to you because I respect everything
you're saying. I think that I'm un realistically optimistic, right,
I think that I always see the glasses half full.
I'm like, no, bro, it's gonna be peace. Love is
gonna conquer all of the hate. D DAA And you
like litl Bro, I'm telling you, bro like dog bloodshit

(01:04:48):
bro like. So I'm unrealistically optimistic, right, But I think
that's my superpower because since I'm unrealistically optimistic, I'm gonna
see every human being instantly see the best that they
could become, even if they don't see it, and I
believe in them. And sometimes even if they don't become
the best version of themselves, they become a better version

(01:05:10):
of themselves just because one person believed in me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
But that I'm never going to like people becoming the
best of their self.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
How can I put this in person? Bruce Lee?

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Right, God bless nobody master they whether the age they
call they Chia or they self sin right, better than him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
He's the pinnacle of that. But he still kicked the
ass to get there. Yeah yeah, yeah, So you still
gotta be a.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Dog, you feel me, That's what I'm saying, Like, it
still has to be there because they run this world. Bro,
they run over you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
If everybody felt like that, you know, I just want peace.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
I just want bro, our culture we lose, We lose
everything we stand for.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
I believe that we have.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Remember Bro, the Gladiator era, they put people in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
The ring for entertainment.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Watch them fight bands, lions, tigers or type of shit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Before peace. There must be war in order.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
That's what, Bro, That's how the world was created. Like,
that's how they took over lands. There's the broad We
wouldn't be having this conversation if they never said the
British is because we were never a Bosston tea party.
We might be saying hey night like today night. So

(01:06:34):
we needed them niggas in Bosston to be like they
fucked these niggas liquor, for us to be these free Americans,
for you to say, I see the good in you,
because Bro, there's no self made millionaires like it is
in America around the world. That's the advantage we have
in our country that you don't have everywhere else. We

(01:06:55):
produce more self made millionaires than.

Speaker 5 (01:06:57):
Anywhere in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
Well, I don't mind being that war inside of hip
hop because I love hip hop.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
But I hate hippocritical hop.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
That's the enemy of hip hop. That's my album I
just put out. It's called Hipocritical House.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
I like that. I like that. I love that showing
you deal with Boosie too. You're rocking with that gangster
remix hard Man. I rock with that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
I ain't like that they tried to put you out there.
Tell them by they've seen my dude smoking weed. Cut
the bullshit, y'all, thank you. I've been following this guy
for at least five years. I ain't never seen him
even talk about he liked we you see. He told
me I ain't even smoking hey dog will thank you,
thank you, thank you, Stop the bullshit all.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
The most of the hatred I get is from Christians
who try to judge what I'm doing. There's some people
that's gonna say, man, do you want a Christian? But
he went on Memphis Bleak podcast and they had alcohol
picture then, man, So I get I get hatred and
criticism from them people. And I get hatred and criticism
from people who are addicted.

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
To hippocritical hop.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
They love the.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Percoset Miley percoset type of music, right. They love the music,
the drill rap. They love all that and because they're
so attached to hippocritical hop a brother, that's like, man,
I'm at war with on behalf of hip hop because
I love hip hop, you know, And that's the people
who I you know, I get criticism from. But uh,
but criticism just let you know that you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
The right thing. You're doing it right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
That's a fact. I love the critics. Without them, I
wouldn't be me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Yes, love, that's a fact. But for the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Critics talking about the liquor, mo man, Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Turned water to wine. He was lit. He was lit
like us. He wanted to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
He came in and said the last supper, we can't
go out water ya yo, y'all bugget let's get.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
Lit a flag? How I had last supper? Like yo,
we got water, all this bread? Nah man, let me
hook this party up. Ain'ybody get little Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
I've never I've never had a drink in my life, bro.
Never never, like not like literally like now one time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Bro. Oh my god, I've never had a drink in
my life. Bro. I wouldn't make that your first drink.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
No, I'm not gonna have a first ain't gonna be
no first, Why that's that strong?

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Yeah, yeah, that's just strong. It's to set you down.
Yeah yeah, you're stuck there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
You might may come get you tomorrow, but right here
you gar the same spot like YO, were still shooting.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
Right right and everybody gone, Nah, I now that that
ain't that ain't my thing, bro. This music keep me lit.
This music, this what something.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
I respect those who got the genuine lick because me, boy,
I've been doing this shit for so long. I ain't
gonna say I need it, but it helps.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
For real.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
It helps, bro, I'm telling you, because you be like
again another one again. All right, let me get it.
Then it makes everything smooth. Let's go, we breezing through.

Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
I had so much fun tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Meet Memphis bleaking person you hear, and I got to
shoot a music video with my former student, Fredo Bang.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
You used to be his teacher, Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
You kill me when you said that I was Fredo Bang,
Fredro Bang middle school teacher. First of all, Fredro Bang
is lick in the music world. Number two. We had
a young lick teacher too, Nigga like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Nigga, and we just shot a music video.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Got my teachers, bro, they was not with nothing but nigga,
write your name five your times you was talking to
class today, Milique, stop bugget five hundred times. That's what
they all punishment on some shit. I will not talk
in class five hundred times.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Yeah, Bro, you must have went to Catholic school.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
It was regular school, regular public school. But that's how
they used to do us. We had detention after school
and whatever you did, whether you was talking, laughing, or
making joe, they made you write that. And if you
got the detention two three times in the week, it
would go from five hundred to a thousand to fifteen hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Bro. That's illegal, Bro. A teacher will go to jail
for that nowadays. Yeah, because because Bro, we live in
a sensitive world.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
That Brooklyn with Brooklyn was different.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
You write that that shit you see bar in the
beginning of the Boy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Yeah, we used to have to do in the book
I will Dad. That's real, bro, Yeah, one hundred percent yo.
Like what you accomplished in such a short period of
time most artists would only dream of, Bro, Like how
you feel about how hip hop and just the community
and everybody has embraced you Because you talk about how

(01:11:43):
they criticized, But what about.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
How they embraced you and took you in.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
Yeah, Bro, it's it's humbling to see that I quit
my job as a middle school teacher, where I used
to get paid every two weeks. I knew what I
was gonna make, right. I used to make thirty nine
thousand dollars. Yeah that's not a lot, but it was.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
To be honest, that's nothing. Okay, that's nothing. That's enough.
I teach just way more than that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
Every two weeks. I used to make eleven hundred dollars. Bro,
that's how much I made every two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
So that being said, though, when I started out being
a rapper, it was like, man, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Not getting paid a dime to rap.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
So the fact that I just had to put a
little bit of you know, business savvy behind my skill
set in my hustle and put some business acumen behind
it and now been able to turn this into something
that you know, has like built a lifestyle I could
never even have dreamed of.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
I think that's why I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
So humble, because I know that I don't deserve.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
None of this, bro, none of this.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
There's a there's a million other rappers out there who
just as talented as me. But for whatever reason, God
shows me to be the one, and it's like they're
gonna embrace you, d you gonna go on tour. My
first tour was where Young dro and Killer mic right, Yeah,
that was my first tour. Fresh out the classroom, mister Augustine,
you heard me, right, fresh out the classroom go on

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tour with Young Draw.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
And Killer was fire. I know that was fun. Oh
that was crazy. Young Drow is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
I never met him, but I could tell. I can
tell just through his music and his interviews. He's fucking
a fun dude to be.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Yeah, I can tell.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
So that was my first tour. My second tour, I
went on tour with Macklemore. You know Mackailmore. Yeah, you
went on tour with him. My third tour, I went
on tour with Lupe Fiasco.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Right, Loop, my brother man Rockefeller. A lot of people
don't know, yah, I know, yeah, yeah you know.

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
So you know Loop college professor now and I'm a
college professor as well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
We're both teaching Boston.

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
So me and lu I go kicking with Loop in
his office and he come over to my office like
we like like like how we chopping it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Bro? Like that's Yeah, that's that's that's that's the bro
for real.

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
So those were my first three tours with That showed
me was three totally different types of artists, Loope, Macklemore
and Young dro right, and it showed me that, man,
these dudes all think highly enough of me to where
they allowed me to come on their tours right for
being myself.

Speaker 5 (01:14:14):
So that showed me, D all you got.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
To do to be successful in this game, keep being yourself,
even when you get pressure from the fans to say, man,
you need to do more songs.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Like that rapper or you need to dress more like them. No, no,
that's right. I found out the secret sauce. Continue to
be myself. Right. It's only one.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
Youth, that's it, bro. So that's that's all I do. Bro,
d one the one man on me. You know what
I'm saying. Literally, Bro, And here we are, Bro, and
and things have gotten to a level now to where
me and bird Man about to put something out together.
Me and BG got something dope out together, Like I
just welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Home to BG. Man. That's one of my favorite artists.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
From normals man, you know, Nordwayne top Tail, but BG
was that god.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
The heart of the street. What the heart of the street? What?

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
So I just put my fourteenth album out. It's called
Hypocritical Hop. I work fast, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:15:08):
Yeah, that's that teacher life. It is. It is so.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
That's so I'm thankful, bro, And more.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Than any of that, I know that the culture is
shifting right now. I feel a shift happening, bro. And
it's because we're not afraid to have uncomfortable conversations.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
That's going to help us grow. No, definitely not.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
I think we in music they got a little bit
more sensitive. But with the podcast space and a lot
of the musicians becoming the journalists. Now that the conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Rawness, the rawness is bad about everything.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Yeah, you you just can't stop it. Just put the
PG sign on it. For the kids, keep them away,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
But when it's all said and done, everything, what do
you want the people to say about D One? When
when when you accompliment, when the miss this accomplishment, you
feel like, Yo, I did all I can do? What
more can I do? I want to sit back and Rea,
you know, chill now, I did.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Thirty years of this. Ye.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
I wanted him to say that D One was a
man who fought with everything in him to make God
proud of him at the end of his life, and
just say, job well done, my good and faithful servant.
When I talk to that man, when I take my
last breath and I got to stand at them gates,
I want him to say, you did your thing down there, and.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
You were fearless.

Speaker 5 (01:16:34):
You heard me.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
And I want hip hop to say we are better
because d One existed. We better as a community because
as hip hop, we're not supposed to be each other's apps.
Another person is not your app. The only opp to
hip hop is this evil spirit called hypocritical hop, and
that's just greed and negativity that can affect anybody, you

(01:16:57):
know what I'm saying. And that's why we just got
to be so careful to preserve this art farm and
keep love at the forefront. So I just want people
to say, man, hip hop is better because d One
was in it, and I want God to say, job
well done, young brother.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
I respect that man. That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
I respect that bro you said, I want hip hop.
I respect that. Everything you just said, and like my
one thing I would say to you, though I said
it earlier, it's not all hip hop for bro, Like,
I love your message, but I just don't want you
to take it out on hip hop Like it's individual.
It's always bad seeds and every bunch we can grow.

(01:17:36):
We can grow whatever type of fruit you want. We're
gonna have some bad apples. Some bad aren't just some
bad watermelons. It's just gonna we can't stop it. It's
is gonna come out messed up and we gotta regrow.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
It's just what it is, and that's what I feel
like and hip hop you need that and your side
of hip hop is what needed now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
What was missing that we did have?

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
We had nobody as strong as popular as you with
the voice and the message that you bring into the
hip hop community. So that's why when you meet guys
like myself, nor Killer Mike, all these people, remember we
done been through where these kids is at. We don't
have the energy like think I'm not the Memphis Bleaker
twenty years ago. Bro, I don't have that crowd that

(01:18:19):
I had when it's that your chick or mine right
was out, so the message today would not be as
strong as it is then. So when I see guys
like you that's why I want you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
I invite bro.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
I met you through one of my brothers, sigone, that's
my brother.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Oh fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Once he like like, you know, it's certain people in
this world that introduce you to people to where that
introduction is different. When sygone like, Yo, bleak, I want
you to meet my bros.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Now we brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
You feel me like it ain't just like that's an
industry guy like yeah, this is my homie.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
It's like, oh what up, d I cool? No sight,
that's my brother.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
And he would never tell me somebody is his brother
if they if they're not, and he wouldn't introduce them
to meat if they not. So that's why I was like,
once I spoke to you, it was like your family,
I respect everything.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
Yo. Whenever you free, I need.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
You to pull up because I want you to promote
and tell these people your message to week because like
I heard you say earlier, my crowd might be on
the my crowd, not that Miley Perko sat drill.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
We older now my nigga, These niggas.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Baby said watching this shit right now.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
For real.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Niggas baby saying, watching this ship right now.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Man, some of them probably don't let you break right now.

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
So this young crowd now, the young trappers, dang you
feel me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
Damn we all unified.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
Say gotta had me on the block in Harlem seventh
and Lenux, you had me, had me outside courtside seafood.
When I was on tour in New York, he came
to my concert number one. Watch me perform or I
performed when I performed Bro the go, I perform like
DMX Broo.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Oh that's yo, that's how I performed. That's big shoes.
You picked up that I perform like DM man.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
You picked that major, major performer to say I perform.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
I have to come to one of your shows.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
I know that's how I performed, BRO, because that's why
I was influenced by, you know, like growing up watching
him and that passion he had. It was just like yo,
forget what he talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
That passion has me.

Speaker 4 (01:20:27):
Sitting here like YO, keep going, keep going, like I'm
locked in with you. So that passion is something that
I bring to every stage that I ever grace and
I try to bring that passion even to conversations on podcast,
because either.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
Your heart is in what you're doing, or your heart
is totally disconnected from what you're doing. That's right. Why
are you there if your heart ain't there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
With you that you feel me and you pick X, man,
God bless my guy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Asks man.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
We did a whole tour Hard Knocked Life with X, right,
I think it was fifty six shows, No, fifty six shows,
fifty six nights.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Bro was that the backstage like fifty six nights.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Every night he made a different city crime when he
did his prayer on the stage, like literally every night, Bro,
we and we all came.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
To see that part of the show. I don't care what.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
You was doing when X was started his show because
he started it with a prayer, ended it and Bro
was the illest shit ever, Like X was the it's
crazy you say that's who influenced you because now it's
like you just made it make way more sense than
me because X was pushing that narrative, but like I said,
he was just on the other side so he couldn't.

(01:21:45):
He would do it on the albums and the music
and at the shows, but it wasn't the forefront the singles.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
And for you to keep that draft that going and
even say that from him, that's so dope, Bro, because
X he put I don't think we even mentioned that
from him, that he was the major. He was a Catholic, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:22:08):
You sure, Bro, the spirit of DMX lives in me, Bro, Man,
their lives in me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
Bro Man, that's major.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
You fucked me up with that one. Bro.

Speaker 6 (01:22:17):
I never made that one because X was on that
all day.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Like even when Bro, you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
See uh certain times on the DVD, he would make
us pray, like not make us would come back there
be like Yo, it's time, let's say a prayer before
the show, or let's say this prayer. Is time to pray,
like even now, Like I've never been into the church life.
I believe higher power, I respect you know, I treat
women as they supposed to be, as God intended and

(01:22:45):
all of that, but I never was into it. But
it's weird to see my daughter because me and her
mom is not church people. And my daughter like every
day it's just like I gotta say grace, Daddy, you
call who I gotta bless this food? Like and she
told my mother and lawd that Grandma, I want to

(01:23:07):
go to church. I want you to take me. And
it's like where did she get this from? So when
you say, yo, the spirit or something, I always thought
that like somebody talking to my daughter, like how she
know that this all this stuff?

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
And she hears it? Brother?

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
Can I tell you something uncomfortable? You asked what my
mission is? I'm trying to help people get to heaven.
M because a lot of our favorite rappers are in
hell right now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
This is hell. This is hell. Yeah, one hundred percent.
Purgatory is a little different.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
Yeah, purgatory is a little different. But a lot of
our favorite rappers who have passed away too, we call
them legends, top ten, top five of all time. But
they in hell right now. They soul is burning. You
think that. Why would you say that?

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Because I know for a fact because they while they
were living here, they made it known what their God was,
their God.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
But was all of this sinful stuff? That God was
all this evil?

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
But our God forgives any sentence, only.

Speaker 5 (01:24:06):
One only if you repent, That's when God forgives.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
But we don't know what these guys did in that
last minute on that bag or you know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Bullet hit him. They didn't know that bullet was gonna
hit him.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Listen, you know instant everybody don't instantly die when they
get shot.

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
With the rappers I'm talking about, and if I say
the names, I'm gonna set the Internet on fire. But
the rapper, But the rappers I'm talking about, Oh it
was it was d o A.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
You heard me when they got that was a rap?

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
And I think about That's why I say, brother, I
know it's kind of uncomfortable for me to bring this up,
but I think about this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
And it makes me uncomfortable. They're like, wait, no, God,
I grew up on this person music. I could wrap
all their lyrics. They are legend where I come from,
or their legends to hip hop. But clearly they burning
in hell right now because everything that they glorified and
represented and promoted was all the stuff that goes against
what God tells us. And it was like never any

(01:25:02):
remorse or repentance. Why because they got caught up in
the cycle of the world celebrated them for pushing all
the wrong messages. And then it's like some people they
didn't grow old, like my grandpa will be ninety three
and have time to maybe be on that deathbed and
repent and da da da.

Speaker 5 (01:25:18):
Some of them they was in the midst of doing
some crazy stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Yeah, but I'm gonna give you that. You can't take
that away.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
But you never know what a person do before they
step out their house because me right, you just met me.
You know a lot of people watching the show, they
don't know my everyday routine, what I do. But I
tell you this, right before I get in the car,
before I walk out my door, before I take a flight,
before I step on that stage, and before I eat,

(01:25:48):
I pray, So.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
You don't know what these guys did.

Speaker 5 (01:25:53):
You different?

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
You want to be one of them so bad?

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
No, Bro, I'm not. I don't want to be one
of them. I'm not. I'm just trying to.

Speaker 5 (01:26:03):
I'm just saying I grew up around them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
And I was one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
I just you know, even when you think you was
one of them, I don't think you was really one
of them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Bro, I think you was. I think you was the
dude who, out of all the dudes in.

Speaker 4 (01:26:16):
Massy, Jay was like, but that's the one that's my protege, Jay,
don't waste his time.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
You know that way better than me. So clearly, it
was always.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
Something different about you, and I watched you stuff, I
follow your contest. So I see when you was like
after my first first album, I you know, I got
I was lit my first little look, I wasn't even
showing up to the studio, And yeah, you was immature
at a time. But immature is different than evil.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
I ain't never been to evil, That's what I'm trying
to say. I ain't got no malice or just looking
to hurt somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
But some of the music that we have, like made
platinum and multi platinum, and people that we call legends
in hip hop.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
It's straight evil, bro. Yeah, But I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Just know that they say all sentences are forgiven except
killing yourself. That's why I was That's why I would say.
I wouldn't just say they all burning their health.

Speaker 5 (01:27:10):
And I didn't say they all burning their hell.

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
But I know a few of them who are I do?
And listen, brother, and everybody here knows that I'm telling
the truth. People didn't have this miraculous weight, the bullet
about to come out the gun in three seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Let y'all please forgive me since I've ever comme ined,
Please I repent.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Please for the Jesus to say it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
But don't they say it's a stillcase or light how
you know going through that light.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
No, they didn't get it. They didn't make it. Bro,
that's the light. They didn't make it. They didn't make it. Bro,
first class ticket straight to hell.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
Some of the rappers that we we we know, they catalog,
we celebrate them as legends.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
That's why I don't. I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
I don't idolize people in the game the way I
used to. I had y'all posters on my wall. You
heard me, Like, I headed to the point where it's like, man,
I could wrap you every lyric of this person's catalog
until I find out when I get older and enlightened.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Man, this person ain't never killed nobody in their life,
but they.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Got a whole catalog where they make murder sound so
cool and and Lord have mercy. Thank thank goodness that
I never got caught up like my best friend called
did in New Orleans, who he took them lyrics and
was like, man, we finnsa become you know, the next
version of them because they live.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
We're trying to be like them.

Speaker 5 (01:28:28):
And I was the dude that was like, let me
out the car, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Man, yeah I ain't riding. Yeah yeah, that that type
of dude.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
So I just know that, bro, And at the end
of the day, I want I want everybody in this room.
I want everybody watching this to man, I'm trying to
have this type of party in heaven.

Speaker 5 (01:28:47):
Man, we take out together.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
That's what I want. Faundbody I'm going. I ain't worried.
I got a first class ticket. I'm good.

Speaker 5 (01:28:54):
You got a first class ticket. Really, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
First class they got or derbs and first class for me. Everything.
I'm straight, I'm good. I ain't do nothing or I
pray every day. I repent right now. I want me to.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
You're gonna repair right now. I ain't do nothing to
I ain't doing nothing. Yo.

Speaker 5 (01:29:13):
Before this camera came on, you know what you was
doing up in here.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Bro. I watched it. Bro. What smoking? I'm just playing smoking.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
If I'm saying, he seen me every day, he knows.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
You know. You know that. Me and my brother right now,
we were joking, but we're serious, like yeah, like like
we gotta make we gotta make repenting for your wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
Normal you know what I mean? Because because it's not
normal some people, it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Should be because think about it, right, I think about this.
Anytime you do something out of anger and then when
you calm down, you realize I was bugging man like so,
but but you know what messed people up?

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
This ain't no shot should I say this?

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
Hold on, let me know it's gonna involve a specific
person name, and then you know how that goes.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
It ain't no shot. It ain't got no being right,
It ain't no shot, bro, I don't have no beef here, right.

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
You just you threw me to all you anytime we
do something wrong, we eventually sit back and be like, man,
I was wrong for that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
You know all that's messed up how I treated that person?
You know what? I forget that person?

Speaker 5 (01:30:26):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
I remember when Rick Ross put out an album and
the title of the album was God Forgives but I don't,
But I don't. That's one of my favorite albums from
me too.

Speaker 5 (01:30:36):
But that title didn't forget that, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
You weren't to say that. You weren't going to say
that my favorite albums. But that's the trick.

Speaker 4 (01:30:45):
The music is great on it, with the message in
the title alone makes it seem like, hey, yeah, y'all
that forgiveness stuff that's for God see me, I don't,
but that's.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
What he meant, bro, But that's.

Speaker 5 (01:30:59):
Not how we spposed to be.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
No, yes you are.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
If we're gonna bro, the only people that's gonna be
forgiving are the ones that are.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
Willing to forgive others.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
If we're asking God to forgive us, God is like, sure, well,
I need you to forgive them people that did you wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
I might not be good then, really yeah, I might
be on there holding some grudges. I might be on
the bottom bunk. What was my man the Leonardo DiCaprio Sweet?

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
Now I thought you Clas.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
DiCaprio sweet on the boat. Now I forgive them people, man,
Come on, life is good. No, I'm not holding no grudges.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
I'm just.

Speaker 5 (01:31:40):
Like, I don't got no people that's watching this thought.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
Man, we're blocking our own lessons if we don't forgive
them people that that's wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
I hold no malice in my heart for nobody. They
got anybody that owe you money? Right now, there's a
few that owe me money. I ain't looking for them.
It's cool because I loan money out.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Knowing, knowing I might not get it back.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
Like I heard something from one of my good friends.
I have a good friend shout out my man O
g Russe, And he always told me, if you love
your friends, never loan the money because you're never go like,
you're never gonna you're gonna lose your friends. Just give
them the money. Like I would never give my friends
money when attention for them to give it back because
then I don't want to feel that down like my
God did me.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
Dirty, you know me personally, I want to be good
with God. So I'm like, hey, God, I'm gonna forgive
the friends. They ain't give it the money back, but
I'm still gonna get my money.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
So yo, so you hear you?

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
What if they be like, nah, you ain't getting your money.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
You gotta resort the violence. No, you ain't got to result.
How you gonna get your money? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
I ain't figured it out yet, but I'm trying to
be a man of God and I don't want result.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
I ain't figured it out yet, but I'm getting my money.
I'm getting my money.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
But God had some riders too, Yeah, Moses and all
of them too.

Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
He did split this like the man off Jesus. Yeah, yeah,
you just gotta get you some disciples. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
I saw him shout out man, brother, my brother Keith Wilace,
my brother black Folk, My brother.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
Black Folk going to get that money. Money. You already
know black Folk going to get that money. You don't
got to worry about it. I got some gospel gangsters
getting ready to ride. You heard. I got some holy
hot boys heard. I'm trying to tell you, yo, gospel
gangsters whole.

Speaker 5 (01:33:26):
That's gonna be my new album, Many Fresh.

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
I need you to produce the whole album for my
brother Many.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
We've been rocking for fifteen years. Come on, d one album,
The Holy Hot Boy. You heard me because I was
influenced by the Hot Boys. So my album The Holy
Hot Boy is only right if Many Fresh produced the
whole album is fire. Come on, man, the Fresh get
that heat up. You got it too, he got he
probably got all the records. Little Wayne probably turned that juvenile.

Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
Come all them juvenile got a good ill for beats
to let probably pass on.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Let us hear that four hundred degrees turned down pack.
Give me that right. I'll be good with the turnedout man.
Give me three hundred fifty degrees up, give me three.
I'm gonna change my life back down back probably crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Come on, man, kidding me.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Yeah, we're doing If this stuff, if this platform to
amplify one message, anything that you want to get out there,
what would it be with you?

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
Oh? Man, it's simple like yeah, like, it's simple. Brother.
I just want I just want everybody to make it
to Heaven with me. Man, that's right. So the message
is be real, be righteous, be relevant.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
You hear me, be real, be righteous, be relevant, be real,
be righteous, be relevant.

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
Being real means, man, just know that God created you
exactly how you were supposed to be. You hear me, like,
you don't have to go seeking acceptance by trying to
be somebody else.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
That's how you get killed, right, instead of get killed?
How about be real? That's right. So be real, be righteous.

Speaker 4 (01:34:55):
That means that, in this crazy world of social media
that make the right things seem wrong and the wrong
thing seemed right. You got to be righteous at all time.
Stay in that Word of God is clear as day.
In the Word of God. It shows us how to act,
how to handle every situation.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
I stay in that word. I be in my bag.
You heard me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
I be in my Bible too. That's right, you hear man.
I never read the Bible, but really I would put
you on that bro, drag put me Dragon, put me
on too.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
Dragon.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
Read the whole Bible front the back. You can recite it.
It's insane. Oh I gotta meet Dragon. Yeah, really insane.
That's gangster bro that stuff that that be real, be righteous,
and to be relevant.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
Being relevant means this. Brother, My first name is David.

Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
I don't know if you knew that, right, So you
know in the Bible, David defeated Goliath. You ever heard
that story? David, David defeated Glide by using a sling shot. Right,
in life, we all got a sling shot. Our sling
shot is our special gift that we were given that
we could use to change this world. Right, all you
got to do to be relevant is find your sling shot.

(01:36:03):
My sling shot is hip hop, yours is hip hop.
We got the same sling shot. Right, find your sling shot.
Figure out how to use your sling shot to defeat
your golias, and that right there, that's gonna make you
relevant to the people that you were meant to influence. Right,
that's right, bro, be real, be righteous, and be relevant.

Speaker 1 (01:36:23):
That's what I want for people. I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
Man, appreciate you pulling up man, than I wish you
much success, all the blessings, Thank you everything.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
All these hip hop guys you going, they know what
they're doing wrong and.

Speaker 1 (01:36:37):
Like and if they don't, I'm gonna let him know.
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
And he just trying to get you to go to
heaven because yagis is burning, man, and not because you
hot right right, see the real eternal flame.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
That's y'all better stop playing. That's a fact. Make sure
you check out Hypocritical Hop.

Speaker 2 (01:36:52):
Yeah, my noise album, Hippocritical Hot, Hypocritical Hot. Make sure
you check out that joint with Booty because I got
that in rotation D one. I appreciate you much, love
my brother.

Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
Thank you for coming three hours late, Yo, thank you
for coming three hours late to the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
Listen YO, call it the golf tournament, the sun, the
fun in the sun.

Speaker 6 (01:37:13):
My gee, he had too much fun. I had to
go repent. Come to camera, brother, hit you bro word out.
That's fire right there.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
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Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
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