Episode 5 w/ Lenny S

Drink Champs Network Presents: ROC Solid with Memphis Bleek.

This week on ROC Solid, we tappin’ in with none other than Lenny S — Photographer, executive, culture shifter, and straight-up legend in this music biz. Lenny & Bleek go way back, so this episode right here? It's personal. We talkin’ years of grind, moves behind the scenes, and the stories y’all ain’t never heard ‘til now.

Lenny breaks it down from the early ROC days to being one of the architects behind some of the biggest careers in the game. He speaks on what it took to earn trust in this industry, build an empire brick by brick, and still stay humble through it all. From Def Jam boardrooms to backstage with Hov—this episode got it all. Real gems, real laughs, and real history.

We get into legacy talk, loyalty, and the mindset it takes to last in this game without foldin’. This ain’t no PR run, this is that authentic convo—the type you only get when family link up.

Shoutout to the visionary, Lenny S.

Tap in - history’s being told by the ones who lived it.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What up, y'all? This is your main man, Memphis Bleak
right here.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to Rock Solid, her production of iHeart Radio and
the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over
at Drink.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Champs Big with the year Memphis m Black Caddy Niggas.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Notice the difference.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Just pron present no stones, Yo. This is a new
episode Rock Solid Podcast. Yours truly myth Bleak in the building.
We got one of the motherfucking original pebbles of the rock.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
You know what I'm saying, won't be built without guys
like this.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
We got Lenny fucking ass in the building. But y'all
might not know I call them Lenny Dress. Is this
nigga been fly since ninety one?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Here we are? Whatever? My god, how you doing? This?
Is not gonna be easy because we find we have
the same sense of humor, Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
But yeah, people don't know you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Just for those who know, I hit hold the other
day and I'm like, Yo, Lenny coming on the podcast
about the interviewer, and nigga say what y'all gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Laugh for that? You know? I'm like, now, Yeah, I said, now,
we're gonna do our things.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
He was like, Yo, but wait, cap watch the podcast
on your phone. Or I was, nah, I'm like, we
dropping this.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Top of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
I told them Lenny Dresses the episode coming out. I
got told you this is the episode gonna get us paid.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Y'all. We're going from rags this one. I appreciate you
having me on those.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
No, Yo, my god, let's bring them back. Niggas don't
know where you started. They know you fav you know
the Cali days. They don't know you from the really
original Emmy m p h Child as Bleak Day.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
That that is very true.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm saying because my man Lenny Dress was walking around.
His name was Kodak getting shot.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Bigga had the plugs to all the magazines just used
to pop up with pictures.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Then one day everything changed. Lenny Dress Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Stop, all right.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
So, I mean, I guess from the beginning, obviously started
that Rock as an intern doing street team promotion, as
you know, and obviously speaking for the people that don't
know this, but uh started out doing street promotion. From
there was able to elevate into a n R, which
was my actual you know, that was my whatever dream,

(02:41):
that was my That was what I was most ambitious for,
right to be able to work on albums with artists
who gave you that honestly.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Damon J. I told him. I first told Dame am
J the backboard wave to braw.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
We'll get into our situation, but I'm talking about, like
as far as just the transition from Street.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Team into into A and R.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
They noticed that I was kind of hitting my head
on the ceiling, and they actually what I wanted to
do after that?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
And I told him obviously an R.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
And then Dame I suggested that I do the streets
is watching soundtrack?

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Oh that was your first bride first?

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, but just like yeah, just like yeah, I've taken
too much credited.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
No no, no, no no.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
What you and I did we'll talk about is what
really launch and catapulted, because you know that was like nobody, Yo, That's.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
What I'm about to say. Yo.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
It's weird how it happened because I always knew Lynn
moving around, like I said, be a fly.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
And they go.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Always was the coolest nigga, taking the pictures, all the events,
all the parties. Always nothing change, And then it changed
in Rockefeller.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
When Beans came because the shift.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Remember I was the only artist at first, correct and
then the shift went to her ships Beans Beans. Here
everything was Beans, and Lynn was the only one who
came to me and was like, yo, yo, I'm an
A and R. Bro, it's getting the studio myself. Yeah,
we could put some work together. We get in the studio,
we do our thing, and I'm looking. I'm like, but

(04:14):
don't you do that? He's like, nah, no, producers, I
know everything. So I'm like, all right, let's go.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
That's why you remember that? So yeah, damn, that's yeah, bro,
you're kidding me. So basically, just for the people.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Listening, right, I use that as I used every opportunity
within the music business to catapult to the next whatever
that is, right, the next level, the next whatever, whatever
else I was trying to achieve. So I would just
look at situations that had a void, or look at
something that wasn't being paid attention to, or whatever the
case may be, right, and I made sure that I
filled that void. So the same with taking photos, the

(04:49):
same with you know, whatever the case may be. You know,
I would do everything for Dame Jay and Biggs. In
the beginning when I was an intern. I parked cars,
I went.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
To Windys you know what I'm saying. Fact it was grunted.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
So yeah, retail stores, I helped, you know, our br
I helped wherever you know that was helped need it.
But anyway, seeing the whole being situation, which was great, right,
he was a new artist.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
He was really really, really fucking j Yeah. It was
like almost like a shiny new toy, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
So a lot of the attention, as it should anywhere
with something that's you know, new and that you want
to put a lot of effort into. A lot of
that went there. And I noticed the void with you
where it's like you had already been there. You were
an original you know, they were kind of not a
bad way, but the attention was it just was more urgent,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
And you hadn't done like a project project yet.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
So I took that opportunity to be like check this out,
like you know what I'm saying, Like we could do this,
and I don't see anybody doing it to my knowledge
or not doing it yet, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
And I had a hook up at the studio in
the basement.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
I found somebody in the street. Yeah, I found something.
And that's what I did, right, used relationships for every thing.
So I found somebody that was like, hey, if you
you're a Rockefeller, right, if you come to my studio,
everybody charges whatever. I'm making this up. You know, two
thousand dollars for a session. I'll give you a session
for four hundred if you work here. So that's when
I went to Bleak. It was like, yo, I got
the studio. It ain't like it ain't Sony and they

(06:17):
hit factory. We're not gonna run into Mariah and DMX,
but we could get an album done if I could
get producers here and just give me a shot. And honestly,
I asked Bleak for the shot because he could have
been like, you know, I don't want a new an R.
I don't want a new person of my project. And
hip hop at the time was one of the best
an rs. You know, none of my no, no what

(06:38):
I'm saying. But being that he is one of the
best a rs in the world and was on rock,
you would think that you might be like, you know,
like like, nah, I'm utilizing the best, Like I don't
know what you could do, and Bleak took a chance
on me, and we took a chance on each other.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Man.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
And definitely because I didn't even know I was capable
of making coming to age, no one thought we were
gonna make that album. I remember the day when we
went to the off Is to play it for j
Damon Biggs. Remember they was surprised, like what the yah? Yeah,
yeah did this hole? It was like what song I
could put a verse?

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah? We just got to it, man. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
And that was another thing that I always just personally,
I like to I like to put in the work
and then you know, show show the work. And I
think that's when people step up and they see that
you take initiative and that you are capable of pulling
something off without using the powers that because we could
have used their favors.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
That could have a Jay to make a call this
producer or that person on who went straight grinding.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
And that's when we had what was my man B
Stanley was our engineer. Man, yeah, B Stanley, I just
seen B two not too long ago. Shout out my
guy B Stanley, original engineer, like and that and and
I'm glad I'm here to speak with you because you
were my A and R in every studio session, because
you know the word on the street people think oh

(07:57):
wrote everything, because you know, I tell people yeah, coming age,
I was too young to think, oh yeah. He ripped
that sheet of paper over his book and was like bleak.
As fast as you remember this, you'll be on. Yeah,
I can say it now. That was a little big
cap because if we went to dig coming in age,
I'd have been back on that project.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
What section mark, That's just awesome flushing after right there
on that bitch and the pump be right back like listen,
I bought him all, but he ain't catch on.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
I can.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
I can count every verse.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
O didn't even know. We was in the studio putting
it yellow. You have the yellow pad going. There was
always a bunch of regano or something all over. I
don't know what that was. We had.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
We were smoking chimney back we was definitely smoking dog dirt.
Yeah back then it was bad, bro, but we definitely
pulled that album off. Then we went in to motherfucking
the Understanding album. That's when that's when they paid us attention.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
These motherfuckers is putting it some.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Work over here. We always elevated. That's a fact. Yo.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
So but after a while, like I always wanted to know.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
The people don't know, but me as your friend, as
you're broke, I always wanted to know what happened at
the Rock at that time when you left, because there
was a point of time when you left Rockefeller. Niggas
don't even know it was outside. It was like, yo,
what happened? You just was my plug?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
You're talking about the time I quit?

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, you left, you went that. I think it was
Electra right.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
All No, no virgins of my virgin yes, yes, yes, sir, No,
that was with that was the understanding.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
That was right, I have to understanding. Yea. Yeah, but
you know what I'm saying, I was with Jay's blessing.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Oh yeah, I never knew because I'm just like he
always wanted well he always did, uh And I love
J for this. He always kept me on even when
he retired. He retired, He wasn't doing nothing.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Retiring every album, no no.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
But the time after Black Time he really like stopped
and he really retired. I was getting job offers and
I was like, yo, you know, and I said this
before I think of somebody's thing.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
But I was getting job officers.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
And I wanted to take the job just because we
weren't we weren't a functioning company, you know. It was
it had dispersed and he had retired or whatever, and
and he was like, no, no, we're good. I'm I'm
gonna keep you, you know, keep you good. And he
really kept me on payrolls. And I mean, and it
wasn't until Big John, which you know is you know,
one of my mentors and close friends with Jay and
and and so instrumental and and you know Jay's you know,

(10:43):
getting Jake songs and stuff like that from the publishing side.
Big John had taken a job at Virgin. So John
asked j like, yo, you you know, let me while
whatever until something else happens over that. And JA was like,
all right, that's that's family. So yeah, and that and
I went to Virgin Records.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Of you transition from an R to CEOG artist.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, it was CEO used to put up like night
you let my man get a verse on this.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, yep, shot step be K shot out my niggas
shot shot.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
I was never I would ever say he was. I'm
not saying that the guy was super nice.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
He was ahead of his time, because if you think
about it, how Jake holding him and spitting that lane,
he was in that lane ten years before, like fun
called for back then. Yeah, like that's crazy. Shot was
that guy?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Man?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
He was putting in that work. I was I was
surprised that Jay didn't sign them.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, I don't know, man, you know, we tried and
we did.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
I got a model Virgin and then when when that
whole situation kind of like dispersed, you know, he left
Virgin and then uh, you know, started doing his own
thing and I tried to do it over there, but
then it didn't work out for whatever reason. But but
he was he was that that that nice and you're
right ahead of his time. And it was frustrating now,
you know, whenever you can't get somebody off the ground
that that you know, and I believe that the people

(12:07):
that have gone, so I'm like, I know this is
that you know, you can't win them all.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
But and and that's the thing about the rap gang.
People think just because you nice, you make it. It's
niggas who ain't nice who make it. And you'd be like,
how the fuck this nigga did it?

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Their singers out there to sound like you know, sh
know what I'm saying like good like that are great
Arianna or Mariah And they can't.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Get on let me carry.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
It's not easy, man, definitely getting people to check for you,
it's not easy.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
But one thing I want to bring up because my
man been making fun of my name forever.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
I've been rapping Memphis since the beginning.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Everybody knows stands for.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
They know it's stand for making easy money, pimp and
holes and stall.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
They know I was pimping. I'm gonta get too old
for that now. But saying that now sound.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Memphis league young easy money pimping holes in style absurd? Guy,
I knew, but I never stood behind it. Still behind
you as an artist, but I never stood behind that acronym.
We wasn't.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Wasn't versus yo was j d J.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
For a minute, I was yes, niggas man many hats man.
I don't notice Lily was the d J.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
I was no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I was a substitute, like a substitute teacher. I was Yo,
you and Burt DJ, come on, man, we gotta have
a chill.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Was funny to us to They may not know, but yes,
I did play DJ for J for whatever two years
or something like that. Again, just because it was a
situation that was it was needed. You know, we didn't
have a DJ at the time, and it was something
that had happened abruptly. And Jay was like, all right,
you're gonna do it, and I'm like, no, I'm not

(14:10):
gonna do it. I'm not a fucking DJ. By the way,
we're in North Carolina. It's twenty thousand people outside in
the crowd. But because I had programmed the playback machine
that we usually used number it's.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Being an an R.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah, being an A and R for the team, I
did all the programming. I held all the music, so
I always held the playback machine and I actually would
load it in program it for whoever DJ for J.
So even when we had shows, I would take it
with me, you know what I'm saying. And I went
over every show with Jay. We would go over everything,
so I knew the ins and outs. I knew So
that's why he was like yeah, But that's why he

(14:45):
was like, you're gonna do it. And I was like, listen,
knowing the information is way different than performing.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
People looking at you. Yeah, and he like it. Dropped
that you like.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yeah, So day one, North Carolina, twenty thousand people.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
I'm supposed to play big pimping, I hit the jigga.
Uh ain't no jigga. But in terrible he turns around,
he says, everybody Clark from my man Lenia.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Is fucking up right now, Joe, that was your last show?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
No no, no no. And then remember job was on.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Tourlet oh yeah shows with us, and I got John's
DJ to teach me like smooth. So I studied the
whole day with him, and because we have two shows
back to back, and the next night I went.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
And went and study the way he was the cheat code.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yo' Let's back up a little bit because a lot
of people don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
The understanding album is when Young.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Guru came home.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah you know, yeah, shout out Lord Rial making that call.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Remember that day we called b Stay. I think he
was sick out or something.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Brian was sick and we needed a new engineer and
Loriol was a woman that we she and she managed
all of the engineers good.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Ones, and I remember she said I got this new
kid from d.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
And I was like, like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I'm like, man, do we smoke weed and she like, yeah,
I'm like, I just send him down.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
I was, I was.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
I was being cautious because you know, working with an artist,
you know, you know me, I always want everything to
be top notch, top level, premium, and I hadn't met him.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
I didn't know how he worked.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
I need to flow with people, So even before I
would put an engineer with an artist, I would do
a session with them on my own, maybe something else,
something that was had nothing to do with you, so
that I could be like, yo, that's good. So whatever
she was like, no, trust me. It took a chance
and it was fucking young guru. And from there that's
when I hit Jay and I was like Jay, I

(16:40):
hit hip hop and J and I was like, Yo,
I got a guy who was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
And that's when we had. Jay had another engineer that
was Yo.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
That's what about to say. It was engineer drama. I
forgot that got Jay had. But something happened that Sony
where he some of the music I guess got leaked
and Jay was looking for engineer at this time. So
I find the engineer that's my guy smoking we cool niggas,
Dad me on my Dad, it on your engineer.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Know what type of massy Brooks nigga.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
That's doesn't happen you with me? And I'm talking, he
even got the room at the crib. What Guru was
ahead of his time. Guru was intelligent, he was smart,
he was knowledgeable. He was the oracle man Yo Dan.
He was the first one that we know using pro tools.

(17:34):
So I told Jay, I said, this guy uses a computer.
J you don't even use a real what I'm like,
listen to me. We've been doing these bleak sessions.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
We're getting things done five hours faster. And then Jay
tried them out and it was a stole them every
single again. He was still here.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, I got a call Gool and they wait for
whole cold had the way you even you niggas stole you.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
You were still all my niggas.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
He like the dad be on all my niggas because
that's the big homie. He's cool. But let me know, though,
give me a call. Niggas steal a lot of my niggas.
You's one nigga you don't even know they stole from me. Yeah,
and I met that be at Gool met this nigga

(18:21):
in the store and newer, and he like, yo, I
make beats, and I'm like, all right, cool word.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
He came to the stool.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
He ended up making the joint on five three four
TI producer.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
That niggas still joy niggas don't even call say nothing,
no bore at least you. You're a goop y'all the
most annoy you niggas.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Now I got that's still tapping. Fuck with me, man,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
And then we got graduated to a y niggas don't
know ex rest in Peace really told the ladies He's like, yo,
I got food, and Fridge.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Got something for the dogs. Dogs hung the man.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Gotta feed the dogs. We in Miami for Floridaville.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah, we's in Fort LRDA Dale shows in Miami. Mike
Kaiser pull up to the Hotel a Death Jam executive. Yes,
and Mike had a rental. DMX just signed him and
job Rule.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I wasn't there. I didn't even have an album out right,
And and GMx wants to go on like a joy ride. Yeah,
he just like your car.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, so he took the car from Kaiser. We just
having to be the keys, and he like, yo, take
a ride with me.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
We jump in the car with him, US four three artists,
yeah one nobody We speed and not we.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
He's doing a hundred.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
He's doing a hundred down ninety five or whatever that
is in traffic from Fort Lauda Dale to Miami.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
I'm talking about like a video game. Worth it.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
So pull us over us over, axis hits that. Of
course it's a wrendow.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
These is the days. If your name ain't on the wndal.
We towing the car, tak.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Y'all gotta get out of here. So the police telling us,
y'all gotta walk the marshall.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
X slammed the car door so hard the.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Glass, the glass shatter.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
You think I'm making this up. D MX arrested. So
I'm the greatest artist ever ever. He slammed the car
door so hard because the cop told us we were
gonna get out of the car, and the cop was like,
get in the car. DMX slapping the door so hard
the glass shut like a movie.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
No. I never saw nothing like that in my life.
A lot an accident. It wasn't a car hit us
and the glass. MX just closed the door. It was like.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Word now a cop like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
I'm sitting behind X.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah you're here right behind Jack because it was CMX
and GI in the.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Front next to that. And I'm telling I'm like, ex
chill bro. He's yelling at the fuck. He's yelling at
this you Mark, don't trooper or whatever, and we're just
like chill bro.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Now he smashed the car.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
They they like, that's it.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
We ain't hit ship, y'all, y'all get the funk out
of here. Because at first he was gonna let us
keep the cars. And then when we when X was
arguing with him, he know what, Now I'm taking the
car and now you got it.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
However, you were walking on the highway, remember X started
walking first hit No, we didn't hitchake at first. Remember
we wasn't at an exit. We had to walk up
the dirt to the exit to the regular street. And
just so happened. Jav ruined DMX being famous, some girls
swore coming off the exit.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Seized them and stopped. Oh my god, dmxic job row.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
A minute before that, when we're walking on the highway,
remember cars are going so fast.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
People were seeing it, but they're seeing it is too fast.
Was like that wasn't like there's no way.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
So when we went on the ramp so that we
could get cars going on slower, that's when the girl
girl with her sister or something somebody in.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
The car we screened and said you got a ride
for the dogs.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
And we was like, yo, we need to get to
the American Airlines Arena whatever. It was time to do
a show. But she had got on the home first.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
To do something. She had to drop something north at home.
He went to this girl's house.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
First of all, he pull up in the neighborhood, the
neighborhood regularyody outside up.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
People are like what so, yeah, that was crazy. Then
we get to her credit. He made her feed us, remember.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
She fried chickens, making a fish, and then they took
us to the arena. They let us do the show.
But Yo X was the illness nigga ever you even
remember the album released Party in the tunnel. He came
through by hisself with a battle way Hennessy all red
talking about her. It's for the Dog, your first album,

(22:57):
give you that battle of Blood from the Dog, Yo
real one.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
No, it's no artists.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
We would never see another artist like X man X
move dolo, no security, nothing that hard knocked life tour.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
He was in these streets. He made us X made
us distract the security so that we could leave the
car ride.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yes, yes, remember used to have the dog. Make the
dog scared by in the lobby, y'all won't be around
make a bite, yn't stop, she gonna bite yo.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
I'm telling you that was the illest times, bro. But
then you went from.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Just super extraordinary photographer, then to super extraordinary and now
to hold.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Stealing you, you and Guru from me my crew. I
was building the all star team and you know I'm
on the bench by myself, like where my team go.
Then Nigga's popping out with dream chases chains.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
We the best chains for the family like friends.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
No, you got a lot of plaques, a lot of
fucking work, boy, because a lot of niggas gotta thank
you for, you know, putting their hand and and you
you you give a lot of swag.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
You don't know, man, you you invented this ship. One
of the pioneers of this ship.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Man god Man, I like to I like to pay
my small contribution to the bigger picture of you know
whoever we work.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
But that might definitely fuck with you because we ain't
have no money to give you a get low chain.
We ain't get you never pop off, so we couldn't
get We couldn't get no get low piece for you.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
But we got you.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I make sure you get a rock solid You are rock.
Shout out the jeweler. You know what I'm saying, got
rock sale looking? I see enough on them? Yeah, hop
better not saying nothing about the chisels.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
He got. I am.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Why you're gonna do that, yo? They can sit that message.
We ain't gotta do that now. See we're gonna leave
that alone, yo. But you left you gotta be off track,
strutting there for the family.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Read a bit. How the fuck did you end up on? Everybody?
Management team put me on? I need something? No, no, no, no.
What happened was? You know what?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
It was?

Speaker 4 (25:25):
As an an R, I was doing things that were managerial,
but I didn't know it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Like I was even too. I didn't want to say
ignorant or just unaware. I was unaware of the things.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
I was doing because you know me, right, I think
I'm gonna utilize any relationship I have to help my
artists or the artists that I'm working with get to
the highest level they can get you, right, So.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I didn't look at it. It's like, oh, I'm A
and R. If you're an A and R, you're supposed
to work on an album with an artist.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
You're not supposed to get a magazine cover or get
them floor seats of the game, or put them in
a movie or put them in you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
So with me, that's what that's how me and five connected.
I was A and R.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
It was my friend at first. Then because we came
to Death Jam and we were at Death Jam, I
was started being his A and R. But then from
there again right I'm helping, you know, working with his
management team, but I'm helping.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I got him on a J tour. I got him,
you know, like I said, on magazine.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Covers, you know, cameos and things, you know, just a
lot of the things that brand deals. I did a
lot of situations that were like yo, that's basically everything
that the manager does.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
You know I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
I just never acknowledged management because I didn't. I wasn't
like professionally you know, schooled or trained to be a manager.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
That's what I thought. I couldn't be one That's what
I love about everybody at the Rock.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
None of us was yes, you know what I mean
from our branch hip hop, g.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Road traditional schooling.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Like everybody just manifested positions just by hard work and grinding.
That's what I love about the old team from Big
Nobody went to school for this ship.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Nothing that did.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
You look at Wall, you look at Dad's. Nobody is
no school. There's no course that could teach you. This
is just show hard work and dedication to the team.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
And that that goes back, you know, like you said,
right to bring the story full circle, like that goes
back to the DJ in or you know, doing A
and R or doing retail or doing radio.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
It goes back to that way. It's like whatever is needed,
we're gonna do you know what I mean. Yeah, we
have probably one job that was our mean responsibility. Do
what do I don't give a haircut if I have to.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Photo when Lynn was bacon or talk the cake through.
I'm like this, nigga cook the best vid yo. I
ain't gonna fright an. I want a battle and cook it.
I put the house on Lendy j Man. No, don't
want no smoke with Lenny in the kitchen, nigga. Nobody
want to smoke with it in the kitchen. That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I just wanted to do whatever it had to Man.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
You did, man, and I'm glad we got this episode
the way we get to talk about because a lot
of people think, yo, just get the artists, you get
the look you on. They don't know that you gotta
wear many hats to even get y'all to the finish.
That everybody wore many hats. I remember the days of
carrying records with Jay. I remember the days of making baskets.
Remember they had buy case of Chris down, we buy

(28:15):
everything and make up basket to sending the DJ.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I remember them days.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
People just you know, they like I always say, when
it comes down to a person's story, people like the skip.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
To the end.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
They don't like to start at the beginning because at
the beginning, that's the hard road where you didn't know.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
One of the things that attracted me to Rockefeller Records
was because I was enamored by them, the crew, you know,
before I was with them, this is when in my
lifetime came out in my lifetime, it was like an
independent single that Jay had put out right before like,
you know, the albums and all that that. And in
New York we used to have this thing called the
Car Show at Jacob Javis Center. And at the Car

(28:53):
Show again, I'm trying to get in the music business.
I'm going to everything that's popping outside. There was somebody
with coolers with in my Lifetime single with the little
Baby Moet Bottom given out as promo and I was, baby,
I'm giving out champagne like and I like Jake, so
I knew the record. I mean, I was like, they're
doing in my life, like this is insane, And that

(29:17):
to me was just like forward thinking, you know what
I mean. And the even the marketing of their promo
for an independent label was was premium.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
It was always at a high level, next level different.
I never seen nothing like that before. Anything else was
like a.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Van with guys with flyers, you know what I'm saying,
and these guys are given out champagne.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
What it was the Buggy ben Yes, yeah, Team promotional
VA was.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
A Mercedes Benz which actually you know I got that,
you lie, you still got the car real ship.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
It made me cry.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Biggs gave it to me for my fiftieth You lying,
Biggs gave me that car from the fiftieth.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah. Man, Yo, that's crazy and it's obviously sentimental value
because that's how it started. I started on the Street team.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
And remember accidentally to drive me around. I remember being hype.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
You didn't even know when you used to be like yo,
we got the session of reality and I'd be like,
all right, were taking the caw you be like nah,
I got the car this time, like come.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
On, jumping in that motherfucker was like yeah, I'm that.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
I'm gonna be.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Rock logo and we held that logo as we still
do to this day, with that much pride. And that's
what it really That's what it was really about.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
By the way, the.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Bens Cool Benz was premium and was amazing. It wasn't
even about the Benz. It was that rock logo on
the front in the back of that Benz that was like, Yo,
this is us, Yeah, my first office, my g Yeah,
Mice and Ship. I remember the girls running out like

(30:52):
what the street street.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Bro in the office right by Wall Street, like where
all the money was.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
It was crazy, bro, how Ship started to see where
everything is at now. But one thing I always wanted
to say, and I need you to. I'm glad we're
here for you to.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Answer this question.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yo, why I never got an invite to the Halloween
Oh my god, I can wear a Halloween costa, try
to put on some make up.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
I know.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
I come through like.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
I come through like what's my man's war the warriors? Okay,
but what I'm saying, I got to take it back home.

Speaker 7 (31:28):
That's another vestment, ain't they wasn't That was the one dude.
It was like six it up all the guys they did.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
That's the.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Word your Halloween parties be licked and literally never get
an invite.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Man, I ain't know she was down s live easy
that yeah no, But I mean, like, you don't live
in l A.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
We're doing mostly.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Fly You're living and mentioned in Florida somewhere fly know,
But I just you know this, I don't assume people
are gonna fly somewhere for a party, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
I flew after I fly here. I drove here. But
you know, we party and.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
That's that's with respect. I'm not I'm just like, I
don't want to eat nobody in the position to be like, who, no,
that you ain't gonna do that now you're good.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I get this to this day, but what that's god
damn Sharepool commercial.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I mean to that, by the way, that's me trying
to be on my style ship early No for real.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
But you know, now everybody doing endorsements, like we were
the first want to get crucified for doing Shirepool commercial.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I gotta have no. I got like, like, why are
you mad at me?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
There? Like I was going to ship, wore my head
in the shower, like I have no hair. They gave
us a nice bag boy. When I turned that down,
I remember I heard.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
I was like j I was hYP I was like, yo,
I got bleaker dorsement. He was like.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
He was like sorry, sorry I told him. He was
like what yo, what are you talking about? And I
was like yeah.

Speaker 8 (33:30):
He was like you think that's a good look? And
I was like, this is how much it is, Like
that's a creaking look. And he was like, but you
don't have no hair. I was like, yo, if they're
not worried about it, why yo.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Then and to this day and like a couple of years,
niggas on Twitter and be like yo, yeah. I was like, yo,
my god, sod brick out the black boy.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
I can't come to the Halloween responsibility and accountability.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
That should be. That was like ever parties advice.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
That was.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
A shampoo commercial and he had no heir. J He
was like, what, but you don't.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Like why they want to pay him doing some shampoo.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
And he didn't want to. He wanted to support us
so much even if he didn't agree. He was like,
you know, do what y'all want to do.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
But it was a time when state property, everything, you know,
we was booming rocked and then that shit just came
crashing down. Like one thing I don't like that people
think is that we all wanted this rock to split up,
and like we enjoyed it, or like Jay made this
decision to become who he is, Like he wouldn't have
been who he is anybody like and they don't understand

(34:55):
from the top down, none of us wanted and want
your family to break up. Yeah, Like that was the
one of the hardest and darkest times of our career.
And Lenny, I always said to myself, and you cleared
it up recently, but I want you to tell people.
I remember saying back in the day, I'm like, damn
Hovis or some ship that lady told lady go down

(35:19):
to Philly and tell the niggas to their face, hey
cut the rock we dad no, no, no, no, no yo.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
And then when that was extra, you was like, oh
they tell me do that? I was crazy. I volunteer
what absolutely and by the way, in a good way,
to respectful way. Yes, Jay didn't suggest that at all.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
I am so basically like you said, when the when
the label dissolved and we had to let go or
you know, all the artists had to I got.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
My papers, they stink.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
I ain't get a paper, which was like a normal
thing in the company released or the company longer is
that's you know, nothing around it does, right. So anyway,
we had to let go of the artists obviously because
the company was dissolving, and I thought, you know, me,
as personal as I am, I thought it would be

(36:09):
uh inappropriate for lawyers to reach out to artists and.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Say, hey, label doesn't exist no more, and you know
you know what I mean. I thought that I thought
that would be nuh.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
So I went I went to j was with Shaka
Shaca Pilgrim, who was one of the pillars and most
amazing women ever. Uh that was part of our team
but I went to Jim. I was like, hey, yeah,
I think we should because it wasn't even a j thing.
Deaf Jam was going to that death jam that it
wasn't even a rock or thing or whatever, and I

(36:42):
was like, I think that that's it's inappropriate, and I
think I should just go down there and telling myself.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
You know what I mean, like from from us, from family,
and I looked at them as family. I remember thinking
like that and.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
People were like, what, you're dripped and you caught me
while you was on your way. It was like, believe
you know, I just went to Philly together. He's like, man,
I'm bugget. That's like, yes, if I would you do that,
I'd had them niggas come to do. I went to
Philly alone.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, twelve real ones in the studio, and I called
a meeting. For all they knew.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
It was gonna be a good meeting, good meeting, real
and we're doing.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
That thing, and I'm out let him know they were
no longer no Rockefellae.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
And I just seen a clip with Chris right where
he was saying that at the b Sides concert, the
first concert that Hove gave them an opportunity State Property
was like, Yo, I'm ready to try to put this
ship back together. Let's do our thing. Let's go to
the studio. I'm gonna meet your niggas there. And Chris said,
nobody went to the studio. Everybody wanted to go to

(37:50):
the party with Rihanna and.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
All of that. Yo.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, niggas said, yeah, nobody went to the studio.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
You gotta think, man.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
I mean, I'm not speaking for any of them, but
I'm just saying I'm speaking in terms of the business
in the industry. At those times, you know, you don't
want to miss anything that's going on, and you're not
You're not thinking and focused on, you know, the.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Business aspect, or the contractual aspect, or.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
You're living in the moment. You know you're getting good money.
You think the money is always gonna come, and some
of us does.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Some of us doesn't. But they were just, you know,
they were reacting as we all were.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
By the way everybody went to everybody went to to
react to party. But I didn't know about the studio session.
That's why when I seen it, and he called Freeway
on the show to verify that it happened.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
So that's how I know it's validity to it, and
that's insane. I didn't know that. I didn't know that,
Like ship I would have.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
Read gonna be honest with you, Rocket is you know,
it's a real family, more than some of my own family. Yes,
you know, saying like I always held it with a
high regard and with respect and like I wasn't about
to let that out of anything with y'all, anything that
for any artist that I dealt with personally should be
handled in any way that wasn't you know, respectful or

(39:12):
even if you know, you may not have liked the
decision or the news I had or them or and
yeah I was, I was in the studio.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
It didn't hit me until I said it, and then
some of the faces were like what and these just
like we took a while. Beings looked at me and was.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
Like you came out here to tell us that, and
I'm like, yeah, my brother, like you know, I'm still
not know you yeah, and he's like, how you know,
we just don't.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Fuck you up?

Speaker 4 (39:47):
And I was like, I mean, that's what's gonna you
know what I mean? And beans bust out laughing. It
was like if it had to be anybody were glad
it was you. You know what I mean, We all
hugged and all I was like, yo, well you'll figure
things out, you know. I mean, it was just but
that's what I hoped for and that's what I got,

(40:07):
you know what I'm.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Saying that, And to this day, everybody is still family.
Like the breakup hit everybody. I always tell Niggas, I
was like, you know when you see the magic trick
where they take the tablecloth, and that's how it was
for me, Like everything was still the same, but it wasn't.
But it was like it was still normal. It ain't
feel like anything changed. But then you knew, you noticed,

(40:29):
everything did change, and here we are today.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Listen, you know things went different for everybody. I'm okay,
so it don't matter. We were a part of one
of the most historic and legendary labels and families in
the entertainment business.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
And that's what and that's why I think a lot
of it went left, at least for us.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
And I was not speaking for Ja Gang or none
of the executives and none of the employees.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
But as far as the artists, Niggas was too young
seeing too much money.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
We were seeing too much money and what's so it
was never nowhere near the money these artists make today,
but for that time to doing fresh out the projects,
fresh off the black whatever niggas was chewing like, and
niggas just it was gonna last forever, bro like, never
seeing the ending, and then that shit came crashing down

(41:22):
like it's over, Captain by a new hustle. Now, Captain,
I remember sitting there like, yo, it's over. I remember
whole telling me I remember still making music and telling you, yo,
my nigga, I'm ready to put this album out, like
like I'm ready, I got something. And he's sitting there
looking at me like, yo, my nigga, Like you don't

(41:46):
hear the violate, my nigga, Like you need me to
blow it up for you. It's like it's not cracking
right now. You ice cold, by nigga, what's cold and cold?
That's so ship just went for everybody and.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Made everybody stronger, made everybody more independent.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
One thing I love to see, though a lot of
people took over the industry, it's a fingerprint of Rockefeller
every fucking part of this music business that you look,
whether it's from the touring to the labels, anything you
think about fashion a fingerprint from now, I'm talking about artists,

(42:39):
star employees, everything, man like you really.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Hip hop, Shoka the trees.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
I'm just about to say, look at Bro, look at
Sharry like you're kidding me. Bro from the bottom, Look
at Chaka from the bottom. Chocka don't know me and her?
Got abe sit down? Chaga okay, Chaga.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I don't think she remembers she when I got my
car accident in Miami. Don't remember I gave her the
bag of drip. Oh?

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yes, she lost the bag of drips.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
The bag of drip was gone, James j Launch, Yeah,
bag of drip gold came out the hospital cast no drip.
I remember that. She probably don't even remember. That's people's

(43:34):
bullshit of family.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
What all my videos?

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Look at him Manuel, everybody Bro literally literally.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Doing a thing like you know what I mean? And
I know I know from from big hole. I know it.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
I know they don't like to see the homie. I'm
not even gonna say his name, but I'm so happy.
I know they're happy. That reasonable doubt percentage is that
I really even understand what yoe you niggas been hitting
me like bleak why ho they seeing you in the
auction like, no, I'm gonna go big for something.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
I hold the signed up. But either way, man, those
three guys you know made history.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Bro. Like, even to this day, Biggs is still creating history.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
When I be finding out some of the things that
he involved, and I'll be just sitting there still in
the maids like, yo, chill hal Fa is still.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Destroying the gap.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
And still to this day, bro, Look, I'm telling you
home to this day, like I hit them for certain things,
certain advice. I'm telling you all the years of me
doing music, I was the clay pigeon. Pull straight out
said down there go record. That shit was like yo, Pull.
It wasn't until I sat them do rag blink and
he was like that we dropping God drop some ship.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Nigga? What we doing by their guns? But I ain't
got my an? What's up? Are we allowed to drink
these yeah props? Nigga? What you want to drink? Man?
Nobody was drinking with us. No, I don't open it.
We only want to drink it. Me and you go drink.
We go drink. Can we get some glasses? Please? Me?
And you go drink? There we go, you know, how

(45:15):
to open these.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
You used to this like you said, can we drink
these like it was empty?

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yo? I don't think you've been doing this man. Yeah,
y'all on that rich ship. Yo.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
You know I just had caviyall for the first time
with you. Tell him the other day.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
I'm member he had to go to another event. Cavi yall, man,
look at me, was amazing. I remember you remember we
went to Japan the first time.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
In Japan, try to get him the best tushi in
the world. Him and my man murder this. Well, you
didn't lose that, Like my bro your Japan you are
what you ship. They I need a y.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
I never forget the first time we went, the motherfucking
Japan broke.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Took us to some some restaurant and these niggas brought
the shrimp out a lot and they put through shrimp.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
On the grill and everything was still moving. They just
started screaming.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Y'all never heard the shrimp scream or go to Japan?

Speaker 1 (46:28):
That just go.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
I'm not that, y'all.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Niggas is fugging so fast, so fast, take I'm back.
You gotta come on. We gotta evolve, bro, you gotta
it was double.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
It wasn't until I ain't gonna fron I'm a late
bloomer with seafood. It wasn't until my thirtieth birthday, and
damn you know. I was in Cork with Cork Ireland
we'll hold for my birthday doing the show with him,
and he like, Yo, let's go eat for your birthday.
Where we're gonna go eat. I'm like, I don't know whatever,
you pick something I like, but don't pick seafood. I

(47:09):
nigtga like what you don't like seafood? So I'm like, nah,
I don't like it. He said, you don't like it
because the way it tastes or the way it smelled,
say the way it's smell.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
I never tasted nothing, so word.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
We went to some restaurant in Ireland and Jay ordered
literally every fucking seafood dish on the middle that had
them bringing it out, like yo, try this and send
it back.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
And that's how I got my love for what seafood was.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Thankstore, that's a little upset with you, seriously, like happened,
J I'm not being funny and I'm not I'm trying
to make listen to a whole jay Z appreciation.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
But it is. But I'm just saying, jigs.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Having those guys in our lives and they were living
on such a premium level.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
I love that about them.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
I was able, always able to learn faster or get
to certain levels that I maybe would not have gotten
there prior to.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
And that's what I used to try to give you.
To open up too, is like, yo, trust me, we
have to this time. I ain't see the vision bag
and Jay has immaculate taste.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
My wife opened up my eyes to the country because
now I trouble a lot. Yeah, we go everywhere. Now
we got like we do everything, we eat everything, and
she love it. Like I tell her, you better. Thank
hold girl.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
She would have met me ten years proud. You know
has to be in the baked cheeseburger right now, christakehock
every other day.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
That's a fact. None of that now, man. So thank
guard to the Big Homie for that travel in the world.
Like one thing I used to love too, used to
collect all the postcards and send them every every country.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Used to be like, yo, all y'all gonna do is
go to this country is sitting room. And they still
look at like, yeah, we don't want to do I
know the hotel.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
Imagine being in Austria or Rome and pirates and they
wouldn't leave the hotel room.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
They wanted to order burgers all day.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Hood niggas, there wasn't nothing to walk around for. Listen,
listen when you're a project nigga. I got lost and
none of y'all couldn't help me in Germany. I got
lost in Germany. Let me tell y'all this story. You
rightly don't even know you remember this. We had to
show in Germany, So of course I had this. When
they had the app around me. You remember that app.

(49:35):
You would put it on the phone and show you
everything around you. So when you overseas, only place that
sold backwoods was an export cigar shop. So I put
the around me. She said it was just a mile away.
Like okay, I could walk there. I get to the destination.
It's a train station. Cool, it's like ten escalators going down. Cool,

(49:55):
go down, walk to the smoke shop, get the backwoods,
come out the smoke shot. Now everything in Cozuba stash
Suva and it's like, yo, what escalator?

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Did I just come down?

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Ship like Azuba ju and that hell so damn Hamburg
and all this crazy ship. So Yo, I got the
hotel room key. But when I put it in the phone, member,
I don't have no Wi Fi. There's no service you overseas.
You need apply fire.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
It's no Wi Fi.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
I wasn't whole with the global phone over No my
she only worked in US. Got over there clip yo,
So nah, I didn't connect. So I'm bitching. Then like
I go back in the cigar shot like boom, Yo,
got show him the hotel key. You know how to
get here?

Speaker 3 (50:43):
He talking Cosuba stash now Yo, Nah like what.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yo? Anybody know how to get a taxi?

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Now I'm sweating. You gotta show. I'm by myself. I'm like, damn,
we gotta get back. I gotta get back.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
We got to show. Yo.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Some dude walking with his girl on God walk by.
He looked, he said, Memphis bleak. I said, you're fan.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
You know me? Like literally you know me? That? Like
hell yeah, I got your albums all of that.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
I'm like, Fair Black Hotel.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Can you know where this hotel? Like yes, right here.
I'm like, yo, take me to the hotel Fair. I
get your tickets to the hotel.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Hell yeah, him and this girl right there on the
spot took them to the show with me. Holy got
a picture with j and all of that. I tell
him to the yo.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
I'm like, yo, friendly saved my life. Like you kidding me, Joe.
It was times we used to.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
I remember we was in Poland, right because remember this
when my Space was the ship Lin so we didn't
have Instagram dm me, it was my Space. I used
to put out the my Space posts on my wall.
I'm in town with the jay Z show. Anybody got
that bud high at me? I get you tickets to
the show. So niggas used to hit me everywhere. That's

(52:03):
how I met all my plug Sniper Kelly. No a
zip nigga bugging. They had to bring a zip. So listen,
we're chilling. So some dude come through with the weed
and he like, Yo, my mom's on the soul food spot.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
We in Poland. So I go to Carleen. I went
to you.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
You're the only one who wanted something. You like, YO,
bring me something back.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
So I go to Jay.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
All of them Jay like where this restaurant at I'm like,
I'm going with the homie. His mom's own it so
he said, you just gonna jump in the car with
some nigga that you don't know from Poland.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
I looked that hole.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
I said, Ho, we survived them Brooklyn and for a
POLANDHH can get me? I'm supposed to be got. Don't
even look for me, okay, Wor We came back with
that food. That was like, Yo, you took good look nigga,
this shit fire.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
I'm like, yeah, we move it. It's how we used
to do it.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
But y'all used to go see all of my museums
back there. I wasn't any of that.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
I didn't care.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Let a project, nigga. I don't want to see no
museums I wanted to see before this, Yo, before this,
all I wanted to see was tense.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
And nash.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
That came. We was getting that.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
That was no problem. We was overseas looking. We was
duck hutting without the Nintendo system.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Great travels, yo, the best? Where where was your favorite?
You don't been? I do that? Oh? Yo?

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Why you gotta put me on your restaurant list in Paris?
Because I tell people all the time, only spot I
like in Paris is our spot. I'm not gonna say
the name because I don't want to blow it up.
But you know I took me there best ship. My
daughter even loved it.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
But outside of that, man, I've seen you.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
He puts me onto a lot of spots and just
going there over the years and going with Jay and
j Brown, they put.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Me onto a lot of what's your favorite spot to travel?

Speaker 4 (53:59):
Probably friends and oh but the whole France because I like,
I love Paris, I love Versailles, I love the South.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
That ship.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Yeah, we talk about your brother daughter.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
And as a recently Saudi. I took a trip to
Saudi last year with cal it Uh yeah last year.
It's that we went to Rio and Jetta and not seriously,
it was.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Out there racing.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Chris is the one that got us out there, Yo, chill,
Swiss one that hooked it up like Swiss got a
lot of plugs.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
I got a call. I love Swiss, that's what fucking got.
Swiss gave me some of my best friend Swiss beat story.
What but we almost died?

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Oh my fucking Jesus, How did I fucking forget that?

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Lady? How would I ever leave that story out?

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Yot listen, just so y'all know this is how you know,
the industry is fucking it's whack because we were gonna
use what you think of That was the first single
that was supposed to be the single we go to
clear the sample produced by Buck Wild by the way,
shout out buck.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Right, supposed to be the first single banging. We all
ready to go good.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
The people who own the sort the sample clearance was like, no,
we're not clearing the sample. Who is this Memphis bleak guy?
We don't know him. So now we on the Hard
Knocked Life Tour. We in Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Correct it's a fucking blizzing, freezing snow and ice everywhere.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
So now Hove like is me Lenny as in Swiss
Hope like y'all gotta go back to New York and.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
On the Hard Knocked Life toy.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Yes, Swiss beats Obviously this is early on, but he's
still one of the biggest things.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Yes, he's producing for the Rough Riders. He's producing is.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
Jay Nori, Cameron, everybody, everybody. We're bet in a good way,
the positive way. We're begging for like a single familiar
because Swiss is DJ and the tour so they're like Swiss.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
You know what I mean. He's like, no, I got y'all,
got you got ya got?

Speaker 4 (56:09):
Y'all were beating them up and he's like, yo, I
got one day off and it was the only day
we had off on the tour.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
And he was like, but we gotta go to New
York York and we're like what nothing, So we get
on that propeller plane. On the propeller plane, yo us
three right, Yeah, it was nobody else. It was just easy.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
The camera lakes he shot out easy because that's how
they got the footage me, you and Swiss.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
That's it on.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
On this plane Blizzard and this ship was taken off
like this and I'm on there. We gotta put the
footage out. If y'all look at the Hard Knocked Life DVD,
I say, you see this ship you gotta go through
to make records trying to kill.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Me out here.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
We almost went down there.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Yeah, that was That was one of my worst flights ever.
I would never fly from or two Buffalo hands down.
So Benny, you hit me and need me to do
something in Buffalo. I'm driving my nigga. Thought it was
over straight up, but then we landed. A lot of
people don't know. I never I didn't like myth Bleakers.

(57:17):
After it came out, I was scared to death to
drop that record because what you think of that was
the joint I had to beat in my head this
the single. So when we did myth Bleakers, it was like,
nobody's gonna say my name, why nigga, why we myth Bleakers?
And hope like, Yo, you're doing this at summer jaib
I look at that nigga like, no, I ain't you.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
We doing it?

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Ain't no, nigga, we ain't doing that hurd up.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
So when that ship came on and I saw the
response as That's when I'm like, oh wait, we got.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
So with this. That was another one of those trust
me situations. Yes and between and artist, Yes, trust.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Me yomber I remember you used to be like stop
giving bleak copies of the.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Music because listen to it for two days. Call him
I don't like it. No more Biggas like don't get bleaked,
no more music, yo.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
But damn man, damn nose was the fucking days ass man, yo,
hard not lifetime fucking clue didn't have no lights.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
On his bus yo.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
You know That's how I got my DJ Demonco.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Yeah, DeMarco was his helper and DeMarco liked what they
was carrying his trade.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
He was his help help. He was healthy. Debnco.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
You know he shouted on me right, not shitting on
me personally. That's my god. I love this guy, but
he was my DJ forever.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
I saved him off the Viking Bus because that's what
Clue Bus was called the Viking bus. They never had
no food, no lights, nothing. They was like Vikings on
that bus. Saved them off the Viking Bus. Used to
bring him cereal everything, gave him a job. I get
my first show. He like, yo, I'm a DJ. I
you my DJ toard the world with DeMarco, took him

(59:08):
all over the world one day. Now this after fifteen
years of you being my DJ, call him yo, the monk.
I got the show. I need you that nigga like, Yo,
I can't make it bro Yo, why what happened?

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Yo? I got this show with John Ruth. I never
told you that's my cousin. You're not being a wreck
on tour with this naw this cousin.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Yeah, he's still DJFM.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
So I hit Joe.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I go to a show in Vegas with John shot
ting him because my wife wanted to go who DJ tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
I'm like, Nigga, I should go up there and poor
water on your this is your cousin. Hit the fuck
gout it. Just say paying boy to me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Yeah, but we used to wild out man the fucking
tour days as.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
I was so mad on that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
So there's that clip. So remember the clip that went
viral where Dame is talking to Daniels No, no, Clue
them on the bus.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
But that's not get crazy like this kissed me off.
Let me tell you something. I try to end the
movie right. Some people have seen it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
There's a clip of Dame getting on Clue because he
wasn't producing the records he was supposed to be producing
while on tour. I was his an R, so obviously
I'm responsible as well. And then Skane Dollar, which was
his manager. We were the ones trying to push Clue,
but you know, Clue was playing games sometimes and whatever whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
So Dame, myself and Sane to talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
It, and we were just like, yo, we're trying. We
explained it, you know, record yes, and then he's like, no, what,
let's just go talk to him. So me, Dame and
Skane went to go talk to clue like as a
united Yeah, but video camera it looks like I'm getting
yelled at for.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Clues, you know, like a little like that hard Dock.
I'm not trying to fight for that to get edited.
And they were like, what is TV You're tripping.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I was like, I look like I'm getting yeo.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
But that DVD Hard Knocks started some ship because everybody
to this day like, yo, bleep, you got kevinked that
you want to walk around look at my depth Jym jacket, Yo,
but na you get front Death Jam was that ship
back day?

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
By the way, I was happy to get that, Yo,
Death Jem was ship. I didn't. It had nothing to
do with, you know, anything over the rock thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
It was more so it was a state like depth
is will always be one of the most you know,
legendary important.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Labels in music.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
So for us as being Rockefeller on sign to Death Jam,
that was like a dream us. So to get a
death Jam jacket understand that was that was that was
a dream.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
And that's why I was just naturally like, but I
should have never said the Rocks ain't never war the war.
That's why.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
That's why no matter what Dame say about me no
matter how many times he's because he'd be crucifying me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
I just tried to show him some love and he
went on and just shot at me. Yo. He was
dame roll for me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Yo. I just found out something too. Like I used
to always tell Clue, you don't never showed me no love.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
You on the team.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
You don't play no bleak records, nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
You know, I ain't no.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Dang bet clue that I have a bigger debut the
fact that's what. Yeah, they put that money on Blizzard.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Though, So I gotta.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Always like Dang was a fighter for the squad and
I would never ever shoot nobody down. I respect all
the OG's and love them for the contribution of what
they did for us man, because I wouldn't be the
man I am today without them, especially be High. I
always tell niggas be High saved my life behind yo.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Three words I hated as a kid that I use
today When I got a party.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
I hated him as a kid. When b I used
to be like, we got a party, we going in here,
be in the van be like listen, were hitting them
and splitting like hitting them and split them like yeah,
last show van is last song, the van.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Is running whoever ain't in the vent we leaving them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
So I used to be like, be how we want
to cheer?

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
We want to get some girls mingled? I think to
like you better get them while you on stand up?

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
How am I gonna do that? I'm singing the song
talking about the.

Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
Most in that organization. As far as security, Yes, a
hand of the day ship you. I'm telling you be
running you in like we hitting them. It's splender, yo.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Remember we left Bobby dash a murder at waffle house
because we went through. I'm on my promo tour and
I got the food, so I'm in the there be
How come in there?

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
He's like, you got your food.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
I'm like, yeah, I got my food.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Then what we're waiting for?

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Come on, yo?

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Like you the artists, they want to know you. You're
the artist, yo. The niggas called you like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Y'all better take a TAXI remember was no uber back then,
wasn't no just caller Uber.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
You're in the middle of nowhere that niggas just left
niggas like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
That's how they survived that. I'm so glad that they
embraced me, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Wish I could get on here. I know it's a
hard fat it never happened, but I just need people
to understand. I want them to know how the ogs
really shipped on me though, because you know niggas. You know,
niggas know I grew up with them, but.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
They think we equals. They don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Oh, they know I'm in the big group. I've been
in the B group so long that I own the
B group.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Even on the Hangar Tour, j put me in the
B group and it was like, Jay, why.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Am I in the B groups? Still?

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
I've been down since the beginning. We travel A group
and the B group, and I'm the leader of the
B group. Was they you got promoted to the group
because you started in the B group.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
You did start, But I got, Yes, I got when
I got to the A group and never looked back.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
He just to be looking at me more because everything
was an A M B hotel, A group, hotel wrichconton
four season B group. Yeah, yo, B group, so all
my life to where I had the town hole, Yo,
my nigga on the Hangar Tour member, we had two jets.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
We had two jets on the Hanging tour jets and
it was an A and it was an age and
the bat.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
So when we get the manifest, because that's the Jet
Talk manifest, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
What I'm saying, that's not regular. You know what I'm saying.
Group three, you get the manifest.

Speaker 9 (01:06:45):
Niggas was like, like you never graduated. I'maginally going to
high school for your whole life, like for your entire life,
and you never I looked.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
At whole, like, Yo, why do I got to ride
with the bend? He's like now because they need structure,
you know, only they can go only down.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
And it was sad because Yo, I used to work
with Bleak and I was saying, and we worked together,
but I was in the A group, so I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
Couldn't I couldn't even travel with him. Yo. They used
to sit back in the thirty seven Beer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Niggas had a fight on the jet the bed for real,
the niggas was fighting on the jets. So I'm telling ho,
y'all can't fly with I never seen that this jet
like from band members, Yo, just why would you fight
on the jet?

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
You want to by the way, this jet like wait
a minute, wait a minute, you almost fought me on
a jet. No, we was traveling in South Africa or
Asia and me and somebody was beating you and Ronnie's spades.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
No, you know it was McNeilly. Was my partner? Was you?

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
And hole and Nick Nearly kept the nigga And I'm like, yes, yeah,
what she my nigga, this nigga look at me? He
my partner and he renigged right. So I'm like, yo, maney,
what you're doing like you don't know how to play?
Space is like it's a strategy, a strategy to what

(01:08:22):
that whole wind like.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
I'm like, hop, they're gonna fire.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
You're like, ho, they' gonna fire your nigga?

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
You my partner? What the fuck he could lose? Would not?

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
He like RoboCop programmed to not shoot the book. He
will not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
He will sacrifice the W for whole to get the W.
He's a team fucking player. And I just found out
Nearly Dad with jelly roll. He better give me some
fucking tickett.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I know he always always always yes, Nearly the o
G You kidding me? Yeah? He wanted to fight me
on over spage. It's crazy now I don't remember, but
I do remember wanting to fight you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
I remember Hole calling his moms on me though for
the spage when we started spanking them. You put MoMA
love and and I can't talk ship no mind, sit there,
don't be there speak game now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I'm like I've been caught heard Hove is a basting
when to come down. Niggas don't even know who.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
I was just telling somebody this the other day, that
Hole is a gamer like they don't think whole play
like fight night.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Yes, remember when he was in the Vair Turtletop days.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Before G four Bentley Hove each turtle top and not
have a front or bliss.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Niggas ad a little TV up here is crazy, that's
not like. That's don't Yeah, they were but.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Over never getting the turtle top. Now you bugget here,
Look at you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
I have a different name now, sprinters.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
You know they still have turtle Yeah, y'all just have
money for yeah, you know what I mean, the sprint.
It's just levels to this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
But definitely next time, you you know, you gotta tell
Hole bleek. At this point, I definitely got to be
out the Beagle. There's no more Beagle. I'm the only
member left in the Beagle. It's just me and Google.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
That's it. It's just me. It's no more band Big,
it's no band.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
So who would be in the B group if we
traveled and they booked Hold for a show and he like, Yo,
I'm gonna bring the crew.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
It's just me and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Google be on the bus by myself. Controller then it'll
be the group by myself. I mean Google running ship.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
But I always said, why Hole never gave us the
keys for the music?

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Me? You and Gool Wait when the keys for the
music to the neighbor run it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Because like Guda Oracle, I ain't gonna lie if you
it's not an artist in the world sign or unsigned
that if you tell right now for you to get
a deal with rock Na shit, you gotta sit down with.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Goo like, okay, where not get to go? When where
I get to go? My brother?

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
So that's what I always felt like. Fuck, I know music,
I'm good with music. I do my thing, of course,
but there's nobody in music more important. That's I feel
like that they respect his word.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
Where he's where he should be, which is the most utilizing,
which is in the Rock Nation school.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Yeah, he running the school a genius, no man, but
he could do that. So what I mean Yoda did everything.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Him giving that to all of those kids in that
program is you know something they could never You can't
buy that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
But Google, I'm telling you, Goo is it. He's a
musical genius too with him and Night.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Fore the doing over there with the Jammuler thing, niggas
don't even know Google got his hand over there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
I know y'all do a lot of signing. Its just
don't give Bleak no sign you know what I'm saying.
Bleak don't get no type of signing. Niggas just be
shipping little and I started this gangster ship and this
the thanks I get.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Y'all see this. I'm glad that all of this is
all tape.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
My people get to really understand that my my, my crew,
and the big homies they just me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
I'm just a punching bag. Only one really show me live?
Who Emory.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Yo, No, I'm little bro show me love. Let's clear
that everybody show me love. TI whole warn Dash, but
they little broke me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Not one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Warn and Emory the only two that when I see them,
and you mean, nah, little broke me too. Yeah, I've
seen that the cality fan. You gave me the green
bad you ain't get the old God, ain't give me
a purple ban you did. Now, let me gives you
a kind of love that's really endearing and like make

(01:13:11):
me feel like I put in some work with him.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
He does. He does a ward two and I'm gonna
remind you you. They'll call you and like, like you busy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
You're so busy doing nothing getting no money.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Yeah that nigga, Yo, I'm telling you. I just hit
him the other door. He said, you're still busy not
making money.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Yeah, You're still out there busy not making money.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
When I told him I was, I had you coming
on the podcast. The niggas said for what?

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Just to watch it on your phone?

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
He said, I've been looking for him for months. When
you're gonna, I'm telling you it ain't like yo, that's dope.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Lend me that nigga. Y'all gonna have a good interview.
Nigga said, we just doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
So I go watch.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
That's why he ever come sit down and kick it
with me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
You're gonna get them to the podcast. Tell the truth
for me.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
I did I know you tried, It's gonna take a minute,
but he gave me down.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Elliott my arm I was like, yo, want you let
me do the part? And I was like yo cha.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
He was like yo, chill, yeah, right now, right now,
the whole right, we got the production after you help
us get the money with this episode, we can afford
the second for whole swatting on our set.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
You know what I'm saying. If we was going to
drink chip set this and chill, we done. That's it man, Yo, man, man,
I appreciate you forgoming. I love you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
What you're gonna get over. This is the best episode.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
This the one that's gonna change this rock solid shit
beg to Jeweler. Were going supersize after this episode link
thanks to Lenny Dress.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
You know what I'm saying, We getting money rock solid
mind right yeh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
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you can follow me on any social media platform under
the name Memphis Bleak.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
You see anybody fraud and flag them