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July 15, 2025 • 68 mins

Drink Champs Network Presents: ROC Solid with Memphis Bleek.

This week on ROC Solid, we tappin’ in with none other than Freeway —  From reppin’ Roc-A-Fella Records to holding down State Property, Freeway’s been a staple in the culture with that unmistakable flow and raw energy that helped shape a golden era in hip-hop. We talkin’ classic Roc tours, studio sessions with Hov, and the bond that made the Roc more than just a label, but a brotherhood.

Freeway talks about his debut album, Philadelphia Freeway, the making of anthems like “What We Do” and “Flipside,” and how Freeway stayed true through the highs, lows, and life-changing challenges.

Free also reflects on his faith, fatherhood, and how he balances legacy with purpose in 2025.

This one ain’t just about nostalgia—it’s about strength, resilience, and the power of staying solid when the world tries to fold you. Two Roc generals, real talk, and no filters. You don’t wanna miss this episode of ROC Solid—where loyalty, history, and hustle all come to the table. Philly and Brooklyn unite once again.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What up, y'all. This is your main man, Memphis Bleak
right here.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and
the Black Effect Network and partnership with my gods over
at Drink Champs.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Big with the year Memphis. I'm back at it, niggas.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Notice the differences more pro present, no stones.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, you already know what it is.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Back at it another episode of rock Solid, and you
know I'm here with my motherfucking brother. Listen, when it
comes to the rock, I'm cool with everybody.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Hove is my bro, that's the OG.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
But when it comes down to all the artists on
the rock, I can honestly say me and Free probably
the closest on the label.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I speak to my brother every day.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
When we had the deal, that after the deal to
Now this ain't no new shit.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
This is this is silent ship right here.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Everybody that you see on this platform is solid and
my brother definitely deserves his fours. One of the best spitters, loyalists,
motherfucker I ever met like. He just don't know how
to tell niggas get out of here. So welcome Freeway
to the motherfucking building. You know what it is, rock Solid.

(01:16):
We here man, freeway to motherfucking.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
You know what, I'm sad. Appreciation appreciation, So how you
being my brother?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm good man, just grinding one day at a time. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
One thing I want to get out the way, Man,
I definitely want the people to know you one of
the strongest people I know. And I mean that from
the bottom of my heart.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
I told you this before, but I wanted to make
sure I say this on camera. You know, going through
your situation, just showing the faith, the humility, like you know,
just being a stand up guy and being able to
stand up through it. Not many can do that, and
I just want to pay homage to you for that.
I know it's a lot on you. We ain't gonna
get into that, but you're one of the strongest guys

(01:57):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Bro, I appreciate so nobody always people always be like
you're the strongest person I know. But you know, I
got a relationship with God, and I had a relationship.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
With God before all these things started happening to me.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
So when these things started happening to me, I was
able to lean on God when it got me through.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
That's why I'm here to this day.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Definitely, Man, definitely. That's that's real ship man. I appreciate that. Amen,
you know yo. But let's let's turn it up, free man,
Let's get to it man. Let's go back to the
beginning though, Free Way Studio baseline. I remember, come through,
Young Young, fresh off the block. We got nine hundred
hustlers up, one for then one straight up. We came

(02:39):
straight from the block, straight up. We got a lot
of times, nine hundred hustlers playing whole verse. You got
beams on the chorus. I'm going second and he's said.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Free you gotta end this. What was going through your
mind doing that? Wrecking bro?

Speaker 4 (02:54):
I'm like, this is my shot, you know, So I
gave it all I got saying you know and you
know it's crazy. I remember the first time I performed it.
We was in Philly. You and Beans had a show.
I think the club was called Pegasus is on like
thirty eighth and Chestnut. Yeah, yeah, like this when you know,
y'all before I was even on, like the Dynasty was all,

(03:16):
but people didn't know what nobody looked like because when
we had social media. So after y'all finished because of
e pas the mic and it's like spitch your verse
with one n hundred hustle.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
So I went to the front of the crowd.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
First things first, why should you say his mouth? And
the whole crowd was like, when you're talking on the phone,
a hustle.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
A lout.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
I was like, oh shit, y'all, it's going down. I
ain't never looked back since then.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Bro, Like Snegger, you stay on the road. I told
you that when I seen you this morning by g
Free stay on the road. But then we gotta fast
forward to Me and Beans were supposed to do an album.
They flew us to Miami, right, they said, everybody go
to Miami.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Me, I ain't have none of my artists with me.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
But Bean said, I'm bringing Freeway with me cause he
ain't even have a budget. Free ain't have nothing. So
they like, yo, y'all do the album. We bullshitting in
the studio. We get back to New York. Jay like, Yo,
what did y'all do? So me and Beans looking like
we ain't got nothing, We ain't do nothing. So he like, yo,
y'all blew three hundred thousand just in the studio, Like

(04:21):
what y'all do? So then niggas like Guru was like,
but Freeway got some records and my nigga Free. You
came with the two months to records. Bro, you may
if I believe I know what we do is wrong
is one of them. Yeah, we did what we do
in New York when we did Rock the Mike in Miami.
In Miami, and I remember Guru playing those two records,

(04:43):
and I remember sitting there like, Yo, hold on, man,
this nigga free really about to come and take the ship.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
This stick about to go.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
That's when I started developing my relationship with just like
niggas wanted to go to the club and we're Mami,
I'm like, man, the.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Fuck that I'm in a stew yo.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
And that's exactly how you got all the records, flip side,
all the records. The only record I came back with
was around here. At least I had one, you know
what I'm saying. At least I had one around here.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
It was that work.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Y'all came back with fucking Rock the Mic flip side,
and then you did what we do in New York, like, Bro,
come on man. Just to record those three records in
itself is just classic timeless.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
You're still on the road.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Doing flip side rock, the mic and what we do
to this day, like as if they came out yesterday,
And definitely just for the people, like the artists out
there that that want to know what it takes. What
was the mindset of even recording those records?

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Man, just fresh off the block, and this is what
this is really what I wanted to do since I
was little. You know, when you were school and they
asked you what you want to be when you grew up.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
That's a fact.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
I wanted to be a rap star. In an airline pology, Joe,
and now I'm a rap star.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
That's crazy and that that's crazy to say that because
you know, I never wanted.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
To be a rapper.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I wanted to be an artist, drawing like that was
my thing, you know what I mean. I ain't get
accepted to a certain high school. I picked up the
pin for another reason and ship it on the school.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Here we go.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
But when the opportunities came, I had to take full
advantage of it.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
You know.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
I feel like records like what we do. I catch
it the feeling like you do. No matter twenty years
from now, people gonna know what it feel like. The hustle,
and get up and have to go get it like
and that's what that song is about. You know, we
still a hustle to the sun come up, correct forty
when the sun go down.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
It's a full winner.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Like you know, no matter what your hustle is, if
you're a doctor, if you a hustler, if you fucking
run one of the best podcasts, like whatever you.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Do, you know what it feels like they get up
and have to go get it. That's what I'm saying.
That's why people can relate to that joint.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
That's a fact, man, Like those records roll timeless and man,
just know be you always.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Have one hater in your crew. Man, me, I want
you to know that. Me. No, it was crazy.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Mack told me the same thing.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Mac was like, man, because at one point mac ain't
like when I was finishing Philadelphia Freeway, mac ain't come
to the stow like moving on call that niggas going
to come up and he was. He told me, like, man,
Free I was here.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Now, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Philadelphia Free is one of the best albums off Rockefeller.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Mac ain't want to be a rapperne ever, So you
know it's different when this is what you really wanted
to do.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, no, like this wasn't in my cards. I knew
hoving them just with no niggas and I just seen
them coming through. Yo, bro, I want to roll nigger like,
all right, come on here we are so but yeah,
but this about you, my nigga.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Niggas know the bleak story.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
It's about the free story like they don't know that,
the history of everything you've been through, just getting the
way you are today. You know what I'm saying. And
that's the picture I want to paint everybody like.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I remember when we first went on tour Hard Knocked,
You was on the Hard No On You was on
the Liquid Sprite tal Spight with Mixed tour. Yeah, that's
when we went out with you and it and a
Yeah man, no, that tour was crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I ain't go front.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
We had Yellow Body in them drawings every night.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Every night.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
What we do every night, what we do. That's why
I said that record is timeless, bro, from that day.
It still sounds like it came out today.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
But I remember, I remember one day, right, so you
know we used to have a stylist to get his
dress and all that. Yeah, so one of them joints
was cute, shallow fit ass and all that.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
So I used to be.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Flirting with her.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
So I told her, Yeah, tonight I'm gonna go out
here and do this for you. Tonight this I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Kill it for you.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Man.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I went out there and forgot what we do yo.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Like like the crowd didn't catch it, but like Jay.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
And Beans was looking at me like, yo, what's wrong
with you?

Speaker 4 (08:37):
But they caught it. I caught back up. Yeah, after that,
I was shook for the rest of the tour.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah that's right.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
How a boxer field and they get knocked out.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, you can't show off, you know what. You try
to show off, shit go wrong, Damn.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Like I was telling everybody to hold me down.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, soon, try to show off, shit go bad. Yeah,
I learned that lesson shit go real bad. Yo.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Talking about talk out gun it or tour shout out
my nigga. Main though, we gotta have some kitchen tour.
It was a lot of rumors. Remember remember this is
during the Rockefeller break up. Now, this is when Hove
called to me and Niggas was like, Yo, Niggas was
in the kitchen rhymings who was hitting the kitchen rib

(09:20):
and freak.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Want nobody in the kitchen rumen dug If it was,
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
So we got the word back wrong because Niggas was like, Yo,
these niggas in long Allen and Son kitchen rhyme, and
I'm like, who.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I want nobody in the kitchen?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
R man.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Niggas said that out of pocketyo.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
No but work because remember, Hope was like, remember he
called to me and with anybody was like, Yo, what
niggas doing over there?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Nigga?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Somebody that what the fuck I thought? We clicked up
over here, and Niggas was like, nah, man, I forgot
who was dead.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I ain't gonna say no names because I got.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
It with like man, fIF We was on the road
together a lot like before before it shit took up a.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Lot of people. Don't know. You gotta smoker with him.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, that's my nigga.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
I remember, uh when he dropped this ship, I dropped
like a couple a couple of weeks after. He's like, yeah,
I know your shit gonna be crazy. You're gonna do
press just as much as I did, you know. So
we we already had a relationship and I'm a real nigga, Like,
you know that was my nigga.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
So I always showed me love, definitely, definitely for New Yorker.
Bad fuck you got to show love yr I call.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
And then you got a lot of records that just
came out of the cut that I always won day
How fuck you to get that? How the fuck free
get that record? The fifty said record number one. Then
you had a record with Faith Evance, Like how that happened?

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Just this?

Speaker 4 (10:42):
So what I'm telling you how to I was just
just just facilitated that.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Like I'm looking like that Ria, the Maria record. Just
I was going to that the Maria record on my playlist.
You've seen you jumped in the car at the State
Prop playlist going you know what I'm saying, the Mariah record?
How that even come about?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Just blaze, man, You know that relationship with just just
did a lot for my career, Like he facilitated both of.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Them doing for me.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Shout out just blaze, you know it's crazy, shout.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Out ta ta.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
You know I'm fresh off the block and like I
want to make music for the streets. Like I'm like
this all my ship is for the hood. I was like, yo,
if you make that your single and you shoot the video,
You're gonna.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Be out of here.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
I couldn't even comprehend.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
I couldn't even understand that at the time, I'm trying
to make music for the streets hood. You know what
I'm saying, shout out to that was some valuable you
know what I mean. If I took that route, things
might have been a little different.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
I've been there before. Bro, Now listening, you know, loving
the hood, loving the block, making wrong decisions cause you like, nah,
what the hood gonna say?

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, I wouldn't even you know.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
They gonna say the same thing they saying. Now, that's
my nigga, that shit fire. I gotta tell people, man,
it's only two kinds of music in the world, hot
and not. And I thank god we made a lot
of hot music and that in that studio baseline and
we just I just was in Circle House the other
day and I'm like, damn, man, there's so many memories
in the studio, like we done ran through that motherfucker

(12:14):
holes putting in work on.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yo, yeah, yo yo. I forgot beans through deep He
threw deef fucking the pool for.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Way he missed the studio session, right, I think he
missed the session.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, he came to the.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Session late and Beans throwing in the pool Yo Beans
on so bull Beans was foul. Yo Beans was on
some major bullshit back in the day, like speaking of
just Blaze. I think I told you this back in
the day, but I'm gonna tell you this now. That
record Free. I don't know if you know, I had

(12:52):
a long conversation with just after you recorded the record.
This is before it came out. I came to the
studio and heard it. I ain't say nothing everybody in
the studio, you know, I'm like this back there, hating,
like yeah, all right, call just You're just the fuck
is wrong with you? Why would you give him that record?
Why you just couldn't make this ship?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Say you're like, man, get these filly niggas.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Like yo, why you just can't make this ship?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Say bleak like to me like I could have did
my thing on this. He was like, nah, man, that
was for free. The record that the sample was perfect
is everything. Then after this ship came out.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
At that joint, the John uh kim and was on
it because it sounded like call me free, what the
just fire joint? No, the John that they did for
I think it was like one of the mixtapes that
Damn did and he had like Kim and a bunch
of niggas on there, and the people.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Like call me Free.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Oh you wanted that.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Well, I wanted that might start to run down on it.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
But definitely that joint just produced. That's one of my
favorite records of yours all time. And all always say, yo, bro,
the verses you put on that State Property one and
two project. I don't like you was in another zone
on that on that album, Bro, Like seriously like you
was giving Beings a run for his money on that album.

(14:15):
I don't think the State Property Click get the props
to deserve.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Is crazy, Like everybody got different styles and everybody brings
something different to the table to fire.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Like you know, when niggas think of Cruise, of course,
you're gonna always think of boot Camp Click, You're gonna
think of MOP, You're gonna think of Mob Deep, you're
gonna think a fucking g Uni, You're gonna think a
dip set. But I seem like for some reason, niggas
try to leave State Pe off that map, and it's
like y'all niggas to give all them niggas a run

(14:49):
for their money, in my opinion, because when y'all came through,
I was like, who the fuck these niggas think they are.
They ain't e't gonna come take over my New York strip,
Like I had to go so hard, and I felt
like I went so hard as people still out there
that asks me, yo, bleak yo, you're from Philly with
state property right, and it's like hunh damn. I hung
with them niggas that much. I niggas think I'm from Philly.

(15:13):
You're always in That's a fact. I was out there
all the time.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Man.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I used to pull up fuck with Free, fuck with Beings, definitely,
Chris and Neif. I was gonna wing your hocking all
the time. Fucking went my geese out there. You know
what I mean, German Town, Yo. But you man, we're
gonna keep it on you Free because you had a
lot of classic joints man, and I think they get overlooked, Like.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Let's talk about the joint with.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Rest in Peace, man, one of my favorite joints again,
joint with Nate.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Though, oh man, you know what I mean, that's crazy.
So we on the West coast. Uh, shout out the bank.
He produced that joints.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeap Bank the Monster.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
So we in the.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Studio were waiting for Uh. We ain't for Bro to
come to the studio. So Bro come to the studio.
We put the beat on.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
He uh it.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Was like a piano in the room. So he walked
up to the piano. He leaned on the piano, He
pulled a fifth of honey out. He goes back on
the fifth of Hennie. Then he started going. I was like, yo,
this is crazy. That was like my second time in colleague.

(16:26):
I'm doing a record with Nate Doug. Then we want
to Snoop. The record I did on my album was Snoop.
We went the Snoop Crib to the doghouse. So at
that time, that's like when the beef was still going on.
So Snoop had his whole block lock down, like yeah,
nigga at the top of the block, bottom of the blocks.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
And we went in there.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Snoop was rolling two blunts together. He rolled two blunts together,
work it, pass it. He did that shit like ten times.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Everybody in there with sleep I had to stay up
because they had to do the song everybody else in there.
Draune was knotted.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
That's how Snoop dude is smoke you out the bill
there put everybody. I had two sessions with Snoop and
I quit tapped out. Listen, I'm done. I can't smoke
no more out there.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Ain't no. He don't play too much.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Like niggas don't know, man, and I always wanted to know.
You know, we was down here doing around here when
we met Rick Ross, Ross hollered at me, you know things,
you know, But.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
How you got on the album Porter Miami? How much
the Porter Miami album?

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Listening to to No I did a joint winning was
on the album bro.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yes it was?

Speaker 2 (17:30):
It was was on the album You Kidding Me? You
the only damn near nigga from Rockefeller on that album.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
I know, man, Ross, like I sunk with Ross from
coming to Miami. He always showed me love.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
And I had came.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
I came out here and did a verse with Jack Yo,
and I stayed out here for like a month, and
I just was fucking with niggas and Ross.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
He just was always solid, always showed me love.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
You know. That's what's up man.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
He was on my second album too. We did a
joint together produced by cooland dre yup Yup shot the
video for Gray. Definitely they got that heat, but you
were Ross.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Definitely.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I remember hearing you on that album and I'm like,
when the fuck Freeway.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
D shot ass out On the second time we went
the Hot nine seven, I was like, fuck with Rick
Ross out in Florida, drop a brick off some grand
up yo. He put it on. He put that like
on beginning one of his songs on the mix on
one of his mixtapes before he really started cracking.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Niggas don't know. Let's talk about it. You talking about
the freestyle shit High ninety seven, Man, Niggas got that
call from the big homie.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
YO.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Were going to High ninety seven at night, Flex, everybody
had your shit together.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yo, Bro, did you think that night was going to
turn into what it is?

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Now?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Twenty years later they still saying, Yo, most iconic freestyles
ever took place on Hoigh ninety seven. They say that
damn there, the rock went up there and destroyed it.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah, man, I didn't know. I didn't know it was
gonna be like that, right.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
I just when I got when we got the call
I think it probably it was like a week before
and they love you going to hot seven nine seven
next week.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Had your bars ready. I had my bars ready, and.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
I told myself, whenever nobody's rapping, I'm rapping.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
And that's what I did. That's monster that John. If
you look at that John, as.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Soon as somebody ain't rap or talking, I'm rapping. Like
you know, I knew what the platform was like. I
didn't understand that it was gonna be as big, but
I understood the platform and I used had to make
a name for myself.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
These kids don't understand man, that Back in them days, man,
you only had two platforms to really showcase your talent.
It was Cosmic caf or funk Master Flex and that's it.
Like today, you know you still got Cosmic, shout out
Cosmic doing this thing. You still got the platform, the flax,
still got the platform. Shout out Flex to Og then

(19:47):
you got the ultimate Og Sway. But I feel like
today the artists got it a little bit easy.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
You need to go live and.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Just showcase right from the crib spit. And if we
were to had ig and ourday.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
It would have been crazy.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Free Come on, man, nigga Dame had a crib in
London that was made of all glass. Remember you can
look from the first floor to the sixth floor straight
up all glass. Like niggas would have been able to
show shit like that. Come on, be it would have
been under like.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
It would have been crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Then the v's was.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I remember trading cars with your niggas driving down ninety five,
like yo, free, let me hold that for this week.
Take this or being tell me hold this this week
and you take this.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Niggas don't know that.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
We used to really be on ninety five up Lincoln
making shows.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Happened Me and my man she.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Ain't handle licensees.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Put over on the turn fright here, showing the source like, look,
this is me on the cover.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
That shit worked a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Hell yeah, I got out of major, major situations at
the CD in the car.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Listen it's me right here. You heard. I got on
the flight one time.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Bro, I ain't have my ID and I showed the
nigga my album cover, like my name on the album cover,
my picture and everything, and they like that's odd.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Ain't none of that going down?

Speaker 1 (21:04):
They booking you now? They booking you?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
So yo, I remember me and my mad free we
done been on some major trips together.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
My gee, we done these shows in Japan together.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Oh yeah, we did that Japan.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
That was crazy, ya body, that was like, I'm gonna
tell you, that was like some of the most amazing
things things that I've seen in my life in Japan,
Like they can't hold the conversation with you, but they
singing every word of our song.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yo. Crazy. Soon as the soul go off, everything back
to knee.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Got to say every fucking bar. They were singing every card,
every word. Then you try to hold the conversation with them,
they got nothing for you.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Nothing.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Then we was in Finland freezing our ass off.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yo.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
That was a crazy joint too, because that's when Michael Gabriel.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
They went over there twice.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
But one of the times we was over there was
when the sun didn't set.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
All the way.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, it was like daylight in the morning, but it's
still daylight.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yep, yeap Yo. Inland was freezing. But I don't think
these niggas understand how cold. We was in the hotel
room smoking and now you could go on the balcony
and you couldn't smoke in the room. So if you
could picture this, you had to open the door. Remember
we was all standing by the door. You would blow
the smoke out and just hold your hand out there
with the hell they they would not go outside.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
I ain't gonna say no names. But when we landed
in Japan and my man.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Pulled that tree niggas was his.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Best friend, that changed my life.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
I was gonna bring that up, but I ain't want
to say his name. That's why we go.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
That changed my life. Bro, Listen to land in Japan.
First of all, I got my homie out there, shout
out my pot and the nick and Japan. That's my dog,
rolled dog holding it down. So we was good. But
it would have took an hour or two to.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Get good to land.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
With our homies that flew with you from the States.
And he pulled that pack out like angel Head, like
my nigga, you got fucking Jonas brothers, I got balls, nigga,
you got.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
All the swamps of Dayga.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Nun like head with the pack and do buying all
that like japanels the only place I ever landed, and
it said do you have marijuana on yo? Like on
this thing on a customs jaw I knew he had
it on. Even everybody kept their game faceball. But we
got in that car and he pulled that peck out.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Changed my life.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
I was looking at that like like angel sent from heaven,
Like yo, you my brother for like that. Nigga could
call me right now and be in them anywhere and
he'd get a favor. I owe a favor for light,
just for saving my life at Jape. But speaking about
traveling with the bud, listen China. They gotta sign and

(23:54):
I remember taking a picture of this, but this is
back in the day, so of course I don't got
the picture. But they got to sign in the airport
to try trafficking any drugs, not just this, no any
drugs in the ROC the Republic of China subject to death.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
And they got the man with the machine gun and then.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
They got the other guy dying like so yo. So
when I get to China at the airport, I'm like, oh,
they not playing here, so then I'm gonna tell you
then Bali. I go to Bali. They're like, yeah, Bleak,
don't bring no weed.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's nothing. So we get to the airport.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
The customs agent guy, he like, yo, do you have
any narcotics, anything illegal on you. So I'm like no.
He was like are you sure? And I'm like I'm positive.
You can search everything whatever you want to do. He
was like, because if they catch anything on you here, hey,
I amn hang.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
So I'm like what, oh shit.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I'm looking at my wife like, babe, why you keep
booking these places?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
We gotta get out of here, yo. And and no,
not for nothing.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I found the spot in Bali. A nigga had mad
tree in the back, a little pizza shop. Ain'tbody chilling here?
Just like yo, how you was just like, yo, let's
go get some food. I'm talking to white feet. Let
it's a pizza shop down the block. Let's go check
it out. We walk in on Mimmy right here to
God kill me Dad. The pizza shop is playing hip hop.
So now I'm in Bali in my mind like niggas

(25:25):
playing me like rapp in Bali.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
We going there. They got a mirror everybody, Biggie.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
J fucking Diddy, Fat Joe, Snoop Pop, everybody on the wall.
So now I'm like, oh, I love this pizza shop.
It's hip hop. The niggas knew who I was. They
will bleak you and Bali on my guard. They want
to take pictures and Nigga like bleek, I got that
pack for you, so he was another angel. So you
ever go to Bali, I got an angel for you

(25:53):
out there.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Dubai. I haven't found that angel yet. They killed it.
They banning you from there.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
You can't even tweet about it, like you know, if
you in Dubai and you tweet Instagram, Facebook, anything anything
negative about the country, anything looking for any narcotics anything,
they g they geo track your location and deport you,
like come get you and get you up out of there,
like one hundred. So you can't even be online searching

(26:24):
for nothing and do body you getting booked.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, they ain't playing at all.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Straight up.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Now let's fast forward my g free doing big things
the school man like before we even get into that. Man,
you survive kidney transplant, man, kidney failure.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
You know, I remember talking to you.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
And you like your bleak man, i'm'a get through this
shit and like Free, I'm praying for you whatever you need.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Man. I remember even saying, Nigga, you need me to
come down there and see if my shit good like
and free like nah bleak I'm gonna be good. Man.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
So when you in that position, like a few people
that I care about, like, yeah, let me, but you
don't want like you know what I mean, you don't
want to burn nobody with that. Even though a person
can live with one kidney, like the person donate their kidney.
I know a bunch of people that donated their kidney,
Like Scarface his son donated his kidney to him. You
see face back moving around, and his son is good.

(27:18):
But like, when you're in that position, you don't really
want to burden your people. Because I like being on dialysis. Actually,
ain't no joke I had. I was on dialysis from
September fifteen, twenty fifteen, to February fifth, twenty nineteen, three
times a week, four hours a day, no matter where
I'm at, if I'm on tour, I got.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
To set the dates up ahead of time.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
So while Land in Atlanta go to dialysis, do the
show go to Miami?

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Do the show go to dialysis? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
You documented the whole way, man, like you know everything
on the GRAMD.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
I seen everything you was going through.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
That's why I say, man, when people say you want
of the strongest people they know.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Trust me, ain't not just saying that.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Free people witnessed it, like you're seeing what you've been
through and the man you came you coming.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Out even stronger on top.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
You're doing major things with the FTA Freedom Thinkers Academy,
you opened your own school, doing major things. We could
tell people about that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, So when I was diagnosed with kidney failure, instead
of running from it and hiding from it, and you'll
be surprised, like a few people that we know, it's
in the industry. When I came out with my story,
acad to me like free, don't say nothing nobody, But
I'm on dialysis too. It's a few different ways you
could do dialysis, and some people do it at home,

(28:31):
and when you do it at home, you have to
do it every day. And he was doing it like that,
you know, and you ain't want nobody to know, you know.
And it's serious, man, like being on dialysis. A lot
of people ashamed of it or they think it's something
to be embarrassed about.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
So we stood in front of it.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
I work with the National Kidney Foundation, I work with
Gift of Life, I work with Donate Life. You know,
I partner with these with these different companies and go
around the world spread and awareness about kidney health, you know.
And then I started my own foundation, Freedom Thinkers Academy.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Which is music, health, education and culture.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
And on the education side, we have some student workforce
development programs. The other day in Philly, I was honored
by O I C. I received the esteemed I've.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Seen that, you know that.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
I mean what I'm saying, Yeah, the workforce innovator or
work And since I partnered with with o I see,
I think we probably graduated like three cohorts of phlebotomy students.
We just graduated a music, Audio and Visual engineering one
on one class. We have another audio on visual engineering
one on one class start in February fifth. We have

(29:44):
a phlebotomy and a medical building and.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
COO in class start in March fifth.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
You know, So in my city, Philly, it's a lot
of violence, negativity, young niggas, carjacking, people hitting over side
their head. And I feel like the main reason why
they're doing these things is because they don't have an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
However, outlet. They don't know what else to do. Bro
you know what I'm saying, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
So we provide them with these opportunities.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
They could take this certify, they could take this course,
get a certification, and we assist them in getting jobs.
A few months back, we graduated some mothers, thirteen mothers.
Because we don't only do it for young folks, we
do it for adults too. So we graduated thirteen mothers,
and before they graduated, each and every one of them
had a job.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Man, that's what's up.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Man, bless bro God bless doing major things freak. You know,
Like I said, Man, I'm always tapping in. I love
my brother. Anytime he called me like, yo, bleak, I
need you to do this. But ma G set me up.
One day, you know what I'm saying. He called me
that bleak, I need you to talk with the people
we do on the school board thing. You wanna get down,

(30:49):
like freak anything for the school. Let's lock in whatever.
We jump on the call and thin, I said, But I.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Forgot to tell you it's gonna be on this joint.
I ain't saying like that.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
That tuned you straight up.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I ain't like, yo, damn you cool with it.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
I'm like, yeah, man, got no beef for dam it,
dam my bro. So I'm like, yeah, we jump on
the call, you know, chop it up. I ain't seen damon. Yeah,
so that was a, you know, a good thing. You
linked it up with the bro to even chop it
up with him, and we got that off. I remember
hanging up the car. I called free, You're free. You
want some shit. I gotta watch you monday'n next up FaceTime.
I gotta be on deck with you. And then I'm

(31:28):
looking right shouting out, dang, my nigga. Freeway came out
with the rocket roll joint. How you get into that?

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Boy?

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Me and my nigga was in the crib. You know,
I follow.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Everything you do. I'm telling you, I watch it.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
And I'm sitting in the crib and all like is
three sixty five my nigga cheat, Like, Yo, you heard
this Freeway shit. I'm like, what's this? And we check
it out. I'm like, I even called you about that.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah, we got some fire, we got some heat on edge.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
On course, y.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Ain't gonna niggas. We'll never do nothing call.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I reconnected with Dame myself, messing with OSG and OSG.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
You know, I'm a part of OSG.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
It consists of two to three hundred principles and educators.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
We do a call every.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Thursday trying to figure out ways to better educate the
young folks and make it cool at the same time.
And you know, before I even got plugged them with him,
Dane was fucking with him. He like did their logo
and he like helped them a lot and what they
was going on. So same way I got on the call,
He's like, you're cool if dangeing on the car. I'm like, yeah, yeah,
I ain't got no problem with Dame. So you know,
we reconnected. And then they had a They do something

(32:38):
every year at Columbia University, so they had it last
year and Dane was there, and you know, we spoke
at the conference and I wound up doing rock the
mic and Dame got up start dancing.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
It was a movie.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah yeah, so he was like, free, I can always
make a movie.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
He got the.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Movie studio in the studio in Florida and he was like,
fly down here, fuck with me. I flew down there.
We did like ten songs in like five days. Rock
and Roll Project. Like they start playing instruments, put the
beat on, and I just start going in off the top.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
I've seen y'all killing them ships on the road. Man.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
It was dope. We just did like three shows together.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
It was just seeing that.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Man.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
That's what's up man, definitely.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Man, he got the American New Network too. He got
his own TV network, So a lot of the artists
that he messed with, they get their own content on
his TV network.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
He got regular streaming movies and stuff. Is dupe.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
That's what's up man.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
I definitely would love to have damn stop by the
show one day, but.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
You leave, you gotta have that.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
We just we we just got to you know how
they be like you're not usually you gotta ask guests, Yo,
what you don't want me to ask you? I gotta
tell help. We just got talking about help. We just
gotta lead that alone. We go to talk about this
US and where we at. You were like, that's it
because it's like homie, he go he up there, that

(33:58):
biga is all the twenty four hour flight get into
that major nikked. He don't even probably even gonna hear
this shit, you know what I'm saying. So we got
to get off that. Man, Like you see how you're
doing super thing? You you come on free you ain't.
It's no time to look in the ring. You got
a song review mirror. You know what I'm saying, just
speaking even about agree with you on that. You know

(34:20):
what I'm saying, Like we got to move forward and
leave it alone. That's my only thing. But other than that, Dame,
it is my brother.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
I don't know all the inner workings of what happened.
Like I know what everybody else knows. That's right, our
mom my business.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
We wasn't.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
We wasn't in them offices when we ain't read that kind.
We don't know what happened there. That's not for us
to discuss. So that's why I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Want him to come here and discuss that so exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
But I would love my brother to come here. The
whole rock is welcome here everybody. I don't care if
you in turn that the rock. You welcome that rock
side as long as you kept it solid. If you
stole come please, But we can find you now.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I'm saying, you came at the rock we was aiming at.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
He used to be drawing like they come pick us
up what you got to day.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
I got what you got right.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Every he was in baseline like drivers anyone drivers.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
We was in baseline like a mini motherfucker Army. I
remember the first time going That's why I got to
have my nigga neath buck up here, because I remember
the first time going to neath crib and Neath was
like your belea when you're hiding. We out here doing this, Yo,
which one of these you want?

Speaker 1 (35:26):
He opened the closet and this nigga got shitt hanging up.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Lined up like the movie, everything stacked up, and I'm asking,
I just closed the door, naf who you got beef
without here my nigga. He's like, nah shit, just crazy
out in Philly, and I'm like, you gotta move like this,
Oh nah shit, real crazy. What I took one movies
outside chilling Bucket, Gunner, the my niggas, man, I had

(35:51):
gun up here.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
I gotta have Neath come through for sure.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Man.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I definitely the whole state prop man, you know what
I'm saying, y'all definitely called the made your part and
played a major part in Rockefeller.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Ya definitely Mark you gotta get everybody.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Y'all definitely helped me become a better artist just by
hating on all your niggas because I hated all your niggas.
Your niggas was nice, and I was like, who the
fuck these niggas think they help? Like fuck that marve
each other. Man, it's a fact, you know. It's a
blessing man.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
You know, still sharp and still so all the time,
being around so many dope mcs, you ain't got no
choice but to step your game up.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
We definitely didn't elaborate about Beans. How was it working
with Beans? Because Beans is an aggressive artist and he
always like work me. Working with him, I always felt like, Yo,
my man, chill out, Yo, I got my verse.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Stop rushing me yo.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
No man, Beans always work good together, like you know,
we always click good together. We was doing it at
the time of Baseline. We were doing like three four songs
a night.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
We got so much.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
I got a lot of back and forth flows, two together,
little freestyles. Y'all always spent on them smack DVDs and
all them shits in the day y'all was going there hall.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Like a lot of the hot none so other shit
shit that we just had luted up already.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
You know, definitely definitely free. Damn. You wasn't in state property. One.
It was just state property too.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
I was in state. I was state property.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
When the estate price you said, I would stay property
way y'all did state property shit?

Speaker 1 (37:21):
I did go free. You was just state property too. Though.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
How did you like the filming man? Because me filming
for me, I was nervous. Bro, I just felt like
I look weird. I always thought, yo, I look crazy.
I know they looking at me like, blee look crazy
right now?

Speaker 4 (37:36):
No, I loved it, you know, especially the role I
had state property too. They told me just be myself,
so it was natural. I just just being myself and
it came on good.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
But how does what does Beans think of you working
with Dame now? Because I know what Beans? You know,
he felt Dang did him wrong and you know things
wasn't right. How does he feel about your relationship with Beans? Uh?

Speaker 1 (38:01):
He cool.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
He got on the phone with them with Dame a
couple of times. I was like, on, say, signed with
Beans and Dan was there. They chopped it up a
couple of times, like, you know, he cool. He ain't
say nothing to me about it, like he ain't telling
me like he had a problem with it.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
And he talked to him a couple of times, so yo,
and like but beans like beans really lumy.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
So he might if he do feel some tape way
about something, he might not even say nothing to me.
But that's me judging how he was on the phone.
I don't think he had a problem with it.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Man. I can't wait to get segu up here.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Man.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
A lot of people I know they want to know.
I know already. Man.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
You know what I'm saying. My nigga had the beer cream.
They don't know. Nigga, try to say, yo, for you
got something in your bed. Niggas ain't no telling me
that's a five carrot there baby.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Oh yeah, I gotta.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
I got a business Philadelphia Beard Diamond Company, and I
got a beer cream business. You know what I'm saying,
Harry Cream dot Com. You can get your awn Natural
beer crew.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
At them, No man, free businessman to Yo. You know
I had to get this is how cool we are,
just so y'all know some off camera shit. I had
to get my mayor this flight. I'm like, Yo, I
got your flight. Don't worry about it. So the nigga like, Yo, bleak,
what time you leave it? So I said, y' don't
leaving like nine. He said, damn, man, my flight to Hi.
Why you do me like that?

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Bleak? Why I gotta leave at two thirty? Why ain't
on the first day, smoke.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
I thought just about to tell him how you really
did me?

Speaker 1 (39:18):
What you nah? Don't do that yo. Don't do that, Yo.
This nigga's crazy, yo.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Free is crazy, yo, I would tell him, because I
love my niggers, so listen.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
It's of course I've been hitting my man.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
If ever, you're free when we're doing it. When we're
doing it, he like, bleap this day, I got this day.
Then he changed it again. Then I'm like all right,
and then you know, I got to make sure the
team is ready everybody. You know, I gotta send it
on the wire. Your free set this day. So I'm
looking at the fright the flight free like your bleak.
Don't book me in coach though, So you know I'm
on the phone.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
I'm like, we ain't platt them no more. Let me
look at these first class flights. So I go. You know,
I'm like, all right, free, I'm gonna check it out
for you, baby. Go. Look you know that.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Comfort plus ad six hundred dollars round trip that first
class at fifteen. It was like, it's my bro, he
got legged on comfort plus for my nigga never and
I know my man been flying around like me and
unlike me.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Free is the gadget man. This nigga got all his.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Frequent fly of MOUs probably from high school. He don't
fucking play when it comes to this digital shit because
I send him the flight shit right, he ain't even
say nothing. He ain't say nothing about coach. I call
him your free You got your flag and ma shit like, yeah, man,
you did me dirty though, but good thing I was
able to upgrade. You know, I got my mouths this shit.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
I said. I know, I ain't say that. I paid
for it. I got two receipts for.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
You care of it, said, I'm gonna take care of it.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
You come on, bro, you know you my nigga.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
No, but I just don't fly coach. Bro. I'm not
boogie or nothing, but I don't fly coach myself.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Listen, when I do, get me there, that check clear,
get me there, keep me transplants and all. Like my
body different, so I know I gotta be plus.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
I don't really like flying anyway, so I at least
gotta be comfortable.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
You want to drive everywhere.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
No man to tell you the truth. I'm Muslim, and.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
You know.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
When you're not, like when you not really doing everything
you supposed to do, you be nervous. So you know,
when I'm in when I'm in the sky, a lot
I reflect on that, you know, and you know, it
made me want to get myself together because when you're
in the air, you really understand that you're not in control.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
That's a fact.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
You know, anything can happens.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
That's why for Muslims, when do eyes, when you offer
supplication to God and you ask them to help you
with certain things and stuff like that, and Muslims, when
you travel, your do eyes is accepted. And I feel
like that's probably one of the reasons why, because you
really see the mercy of a law, like when you're
up in the air traveling period, when you're moving around
this world. Because like back in the days, in the

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days of a profit, peace to be upon them, they
might not make it back because they had camels and
like they was going on caravans where they was walking
to get to another city take like three months, and
people really wasn't getting back like people kiss they wife
and might not make it back.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
You know, it's a fact. That's a fact. You don't
know what lies upon the road to hand. Man. I
always me, I'm a definitely believe in man. I pray
before every flag, I pray before. I pray every day,
just before I leave my house, because it's not a
guarantee to make it back home. So people don't know
how much of a blessing it is just to even
make it back home.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Every day.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Definitely, I pray five times a day, you know what
I mean. And I think about that every time I leave.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
That's a fact.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
Talk about that every time I leave. You're not guaranteed
to make it better.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Let's go back on me bringing up how much my
man is the gadget man, because he gassed me up
one day.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
I thought I was becoming the gadget man.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
This is early at the career too. This is before
our phones. This is when BlackBerry just got lit and
they came out with the new I don't know what
kind of phone it was, but it had it was
the first phone with the style.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Of one thousand, P one thousand.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
My man Janie had them Jones James Bam movie Free.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
On the bus like this, Yeah, with the pen, just
want just visious sent and shit.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
And I'm like, yo, what's that free? Like the new phone? Bleak, Yo,
you should check it out. Go to the store.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
The next day. That shit was a thousand dollars. I'm like,
let me get it. We getting money over.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Here's the rock. We don't care. Fucking I get the phone.
I lose the pen. Now the phone, I fuck it.
I look at free free. I waste my buddy free,
Like yo, you bullshit, My shit's still rocket. This nigga
was doing all kind of shit on this phone that
jon't had apps, like hell, appstore, you couldn't even It's
so new, y ain't even I didn't even.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Know what to do with it. Yo, that's you.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Was on this ship way ahead of time, pro tools
on the laptop, moving around, m box, whole studio, set
up recording in the room, doing everything, way before that
became the it thing. I remember when we started doing
that whole look at us, like, Yo, y'all bugging, who
want to record in the crib?

Speaker 1 (44:34):
You get the.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Vibe in the studio? Nobody catch a vibe in the crib.
Now everybody recording the crib. Niggas don't even go to
the studio. Some of these studios don't even exist no more. Yeah,
for sure, I was shocked to see Circle House still there.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
I'm still like, I gotta I gotta whole set up
in the crib and I work on that jone when
I gotta do stuff. But I definitely like feel like
I get my best vibes in the studio.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah, me too, I like me this time I'm working.
You know, for those who don't know, I've been working
on the project no name. He got some heat too,
and just save me some joints. Appreciate it, man, my
grown man. Shit this vibe. Man, I feel like us
us forty ing up, thirty five and up. I feel
like we don't have no music to really listen to.
Cause the niggas know you ain't You ain't stop it,

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You ain't outside.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Trapping no more.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
You taking that daughter to dance and your son the
karate or basketball, because I be here too stopping. So
with that being said, the thought process with the music
now for me is like I remember being in the
studio back in the day. All of us we were
just straight off the top. Whatever we felt we would

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think it were going to booth and spit. Now, I've
been really like taking my time, like listening to the
beats going home, you know, on the notepad on the phone,
like literally writing everything down.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
You know. What I'm saying is like, what kind of you.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Using the voice notes?

Speaker 1 (45:59):
No? Nah, I got hit some of my voice notes. Yeah.
I never used the voice notes before because.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
I don't write, so I might be somewhere and catch
a vibe and I just put it in my voice.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
See, that's one thing about me I never had that.
I was gonna ask you that too. That's what's gonna
be my question, Like what's your throat press when making
a song? Do you usually catch the vibe before the beat?

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Or the beat give you the vibe to beat?

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Give me the vibe?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, I'm the same way.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Like every once in a while, I might have an
idea that I find a bet for it.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
I usually I just get to be first and then
just start vibing to it.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
That's me.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Like, only I only seen two people able to tell
a producer, Yo, I wrote the record this way, I
need you to make the beat like this, And that's
beans in hove Bro. They only two niggas. That's how
a lot of people don't know. That's how I got
the record Hypnotic. That's another record came out of Circle
House because Beans was in there telling just how to

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do the beat and I'm like, Yo, what's this for.
He's like, Yo, this song called Hypnotic and he played in.
I'm like, what you're doing with this record? He's like,
I don't know, Like think I'm putting this shit on
my album. I'm gonna put a verse on it. So
then it was just supposed to be me and Beans,
and then Hove heard it. You're like, yo, nah, I
need to put a verse on this, And that's how
all of us got on it. But originally that's beans

(47:12):
whole concept. But he told just everybody in the stew,
like the candles, turn the lights low.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
I want you to play the music like this. I
need the horns to come here.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
I think it was literally in the stow directing the
whole vibe, and that's how we made the record, Like seriously,
let's do let's do so like get through at process now,
like you just doing voice notes and just be going back,
double it back over them.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
No, I just do that sometimes like if I'm in
the studio vibe into a beat or if I'm like
riding in.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
The car or something. When I just catch it, something
comes to my mind, throwing in the voice notes.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
Yeah, it's a bunch of stuff that like it's hits
in that jone and I ain't even get to.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Right lay down.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Yeah, yeah, I'm telling you I never used the voice
notes man, my son and he even be on that
shit doing voice notes every niggas. I hate when niggas
send you a text and it's a voice no text.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I want to read like I can read, you know
what I'm saying. I might be on the phone. I
ain't got time to hang up. They hear you sitting
say yo, my g I'm on my way.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Like that's people.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
That's people that don't like the text.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah, niggas can't there because they don't got auto you
know what I mean. They need that auto text. They
don't know how to spell, so they like it's easy
to be like, Yo, I'm around the corner, you know,
write that out baby. It's kind of you know, it's easy,
you know, write that shit out baby, flash cards it's gone.
But yo, before anything, and I always want to ask

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everybody especially from our time.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
What did you think about the rock even breaking up? Bro?

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Because I never seen it coming and it was one
of the saddest days of my life.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yeah, what said man?

Speaker 4 (48:52):
We was in the studio when we got the news
Lennys came down, was like, yo, everybody drops.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
I always say that joint. It was crazy, so.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
Like I was distraught, like what like huh, I couldn't
understand it. But it took me like a couple of months,
and then I just told myself, like the hard work
is done already, Like I'm already a household name, and
I just went back to what got me there in
the first place, and that's hard work. I dropped mixtapes.
So I did this thing called Month of Man. That's
where I dropped the record every day. On the thirty

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first day, I dropped two records. I did the Stimulus Package,
you know. I did a bunch of other critical acclaimed projects.
I did this Broken Ankles with Girl Talk, and I
did every festival that year.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Like I did. I think, where was that.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
I was like at Boston calling or something, and Girl
talked like a big deal. So NAS was performing and
he was performing after NAS, So NAS got off stage.
I'm like, damn, what's up now. He's like, what's up? Free,
what you're doing here? I'm like, I'm about to go
on stage. He's like after me. I was like, yeah,
we girl talk. I did every festival that year, and
I wasn't even in tune to the festivals, Like you

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know what I'm saying, So opened up my eyes. When
I did this stuff with rhyme sayers. That's the first
time I tore it over seas. And you know the
crazy thing about that is, by a mistake, I left
my jury home. So at this point, I feel like
I'm a rapper. I need chains, I need watches and
all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
I had one ring. I left everything home by mistake,
so I'm sick.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
I'll go to the Louis store trot bot some bracelets
and all this stuff. But I learned a valuable lesson.
You don't need none of that shit to be a rapper.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
I was over there killing them Jones with no jury,
Like you know what I'm saying, bro really catching the essence.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Of hip hop. I think about it.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
One of the greatest him seeds Man God blessed DMX
wore a dog chain. Yeah you ain't ever have no
jury water. But you know, coming from where we come from,
it just it's the dope boys did that. It wasn't
the rappers. It's the dope boy that's that's so. But
it was you know, that's what it was. It was
the love of the block, the money. That's what made

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us want to be last year and or that that
wasn't what we saw on TV. Because niggas we saw
on the block was shining way more than what we saw.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
On TV from the war bro. Like that's not one
hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Definitely, like that was way more thoroughly.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
So like it wasn't until a lot of people say,
like I would ever really let the streets in the
music business, like the real niggas really being in there,
not just some fucking studio made up rapper, Like some
real niggas off the block that went to school with
you really on you know what I'm saying, Like like
how you felt when Beans was going at the Big

(51:33):
Homie Bro, Like I know you never That's why I
said in the beginning, one of the most loyal artists
ever because Free never got in the middle of no tension.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
But it was tension with any side. Free was always
neutral and I always respected that about you.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Now you know, Beans and Jay had their own relationship
like you know, and.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
I had a relationship with I mean, I still got
a relationship with Jay, but back then I had a
relationship with Jay. But I didn't look at my relationship
with Jay as deep as beans relationship with Jay was
because Being's the one that brought me to the table.
So even though I didn't feel how Beans felt about
the situation, I love Beans.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
That's my brother, So you know, I would never turn my.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Back on him.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
I'd never be on no bullshit well you no matter what,
I'm a ride to the end with him, you know.
But I got a lot of love for Big Homy
too because he changed my life, like you know what
I mean, put me in position I'm still eating, still
feeding my family off of this music shit, you know
what I'm saying. So I just minded my business when
it happened. When because I was on the radio with

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Beans when he was when he was this in jail,
I was like, oh shit, So naturally, like niggas probably
felt like I felt, I felt the same way, Like
you know what I'm saying. So I think Jay had
a show in Baltimore or some shit. I went to
that joint by myself, and I was like in an audience.
I had the rock chain on this shit. Niggas like, Yo,

(52:59):
what you doing out here? You're supposed to be back there.
I felt crazy, like it was feel crazy, But I
already know how shit lay how this shit is laid out,
because I just got off tour with y'all, so.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
I knew where to go.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
And I seen Jay when he was walking to the car,
and I had a conversation with him and told them how.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
I felt right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
So I remember free You was one of the only
ones man like you, the Gunners like when the Rock
broke up, you know, out of everybody, everybody gonna feel
their own way. But I think out of everybody that
reached out, I think y'all were the main ones that
reached out, you know what I'm saying, Especially Chris. You
and we always had our relationship before the Rock broke up.

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We was toring together, we had shows together. I don't
know we bro We had a song, one of my
favorite songs that we did together and they never even
got cleared. And you should make the album night Ship.
That's you're kidding me. You know, I still hear about
that record. Your whye y'all never put this on Philadelphia Freeway.
People think that we held that record back, like we

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didn't want that record to come out.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
An the block. People be like, why that Joe wasn't
on your alb and we couldn't.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Clear the samples?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Yeah, man, them sample clarences back then, was was the problem.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
A lot of people don't know a lot of records
was held back because we couldn't get the samples cleared.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
All of that. Like I remember p D even. I
gotta get p D.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
I gotta have everybody from the prop up here because
PD even had you know, harsh words towards the big homie.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
And I remember warning p D because I remember when
I don't know why Cracked did that. Crack was.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Last night we shot a video in Atlantic City.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yo, got to see that. I see that. Yeah, Cracked
by dude.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
He always been my guy, like Craig is a good nigga,
like my brother. Like you know what I'm saying. We
was a rap group and when when we were young,
Crack always been fly, always was a hot ass rapper.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Since high school. Yeah, no, Crack is my dude, good guy.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Hell yeah, I didn't understand that one.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
I remember telling him he didn't understand why you did that.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
I love you, though.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
I remember telling him when ship was going down, your
crack stay safe, man, stay on.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
You know you gotta stay clear of the smoke. You
on that side a.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Lot like that side gets bubbling. You gotta get on
this side would get cool. You're looking at me your
m fuck niggas, don't kid man, I'm making hot music, man.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Trust me. We got this ship and then shit started
going down. Nigga was like your bleik, man.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I should have listened to you, man, you should have
told me harder man, this suth.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Man, what the fuck shit going? Dad down?

Speaker 2 (55:39):
And I remember, you know, calling Crack every time I
used to do little mixtapes. I always called you and crack.
Niggas was on every single mixtape. I damn near dropped
like literally you and Crack, and I could say, fucking.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Neaf buck was on down there everything like neath my
bro too. Man. I fucked with neath hard body for
some reason. I don't know how.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Muslim. He just made mr.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
I know he just went Yeah, That's why he told
me he couldn't come. He like, Gleek, I'm going to
Saudi Arabia. I'm like, okay, I feel you. And He's like,
when I get back, I'm gonna make sure I stopped
by rock Solid. So buck you oh you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Nah Na like and then me, I know they just
sent this question in, but this is a question I
wanted to know when the dip set drama was going on.
Like I said, Free never was in none of that ship.
Like he always was cool. If you pick up Jewel
saying tan album, Free was on it to pick up

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a fucking cam album.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
What's you on, Cambo? I think he's on the diplomatic unity.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah, And I remember always saying that I couldn't even
get mad at you cause it's like Ben free A
looking like man, fuck, heybody cool, y'all thinks this tripping.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Get the way, y'all, bucket stop bucking. Let's get this.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
I always was my nigga, you know. I used to
go to Harlem and fuck with him.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
If had a lot of respect for him because like
back even back then, he had like his own store
and like he was doing ship that you know, niggas
was regularly doing, so I had a lot of respect
for him and ship.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I definitely did. That record was hot, so I had
to jump on. I didn't even really know your niggas
was beefing. It wasn't no beef my nigga, Like, think
about it. We was in the studio with each other
every day. Nobody got swung on exactly, so so how
was it beef?

Speaker 1 (57:31):
So what you're talking about? No, but you know the
industry said we got beef, so it's beef. But you
know it wasn't no beef. That's what every day you.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Was in the sessions, you was in the studios, I
was on the record. Yeah, but still it was tension.
The tension was dead for you can't ignore.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
I remember when when I was going through that ship
with Cassidy and the gunner just got on the fucking album.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Cover with him. I was mad at yo. Yeah yo,
listen yo yo.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
I was like, yeah, it was on like a magazine,
come like the fun yo.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
I remember right telling the gunners yo, shout out gang man, right,
this is the game.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
He was dissing me crazy. I still to this day.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Don't even know why, but I remember telling the gunners.
They was going to La. So I'm telling them, yo,
it's some rapping nigga out there La. Ain't the game
thising me? Yo, you see that nigga be on point
like you know, my nigga. They come back from La
like yo, beep.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Man. We was with Game last night chilling. We's in
the club doing all this chilling, popping bottle. Keep that cool.
He said, ain't no beef with you.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
So I'm like, I ain't tell you that, and he
got non songs thising me. So I'm looking at these
niggas like a cool That night Game dropped the disc
with Kat Williams to the young guts and I'm looking
at these things.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
I told y'all niggas. He just set y'all up for
the kill. Man, Yo.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
It used to be so much shit going on to
the crew to where you're telling niggas something didn't go happen,
and they look at you be like, damn, bro, I
should have fucking listened to.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
You, my nigga. But Dad, then the gunners went crazy.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
You got niggas, young niggas.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
There's a little younger than that.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
They was babies, man, like they was the real youngins man.
But at that time, Gabe was shooting that anybody he
was on some ship. Nigga, word up, he was gunning
that abody man. Chris and Neath went back at him.
They did their thing, man, But that was good times, man,
Rackefeller Man. We had our little wars that a lot
of people probably don't even know was wars. And then

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we be in the studio looking at each other like
they got told you don't go fuck with this.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Nigga.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Oh, I think it's a good idea. Mean what you
think you think being's really gonna use AI.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
I got some shit on my phone right now, new
ship that he did with the AI Crazy.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
I think I want him to mean because you know,
I always feel like crazy out of everything you can take,
I take his voice, you know what I'm saying. Like
it's a lot of things, things you can lose, but
like the one thing that we use to get our money.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Is like I felt, so I always felt bad, you know,
for my bro about that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
So hungery. He's still able to move around, and you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Still they're doing shows killing it like yeah, but that
AI ship, he really hit something with that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Yeah, I want him to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
He's doing it because he ain't like he gonna let
AI write his verse.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Beans are right AI verse?

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Yeah, AI verse. That's how nice for.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
The people that don't understand what Bleak's saying.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
Beans is using AI like he would lay a verse
and then they will send it through like this AI
program that make him sound like the old Beans.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Yes, that's it. He's not going exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Ain't no artificial intelligence writing no verse for Beans. He'll
write a verse for artificial intelligence. Sure if they didn't
understand what I meant the first.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
No, he's definitely one of the most, one of the
craziest with.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Depend definitely, man Beans, I used to make Yo. I'll
never forget when I first met Beans. The first day
he came, he was with with Sadeke.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
In the studio.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
I was in there, Jay was in there doing the
joint with jazz Oh. I forgot the name of the record,
but it was the joint with Jazzo. And then they
was like, Yo, Bean, spit for j and noll that
and I remember saying, damn son nice. Then they was like,
all right, Bleeve, Dad go do a record with him
the same day, So I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Alright, cool. The record turned out to be cruel love.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Everybody loves this record, but me back then, I hated
it free like I used to. I knew when he
spent his verse, I was like, why they want me
to rhyme after that? I'm not supposed to rhyme after that.
That's why I made them put my verse first, because
I was like, hell no, he not spitting that person.
Then I rhyme no way, like I used to be

(01:01:52):
so mad at Son, Like, Nah, this nigga's too nice.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I gotta get my shit up. N he did. He did, bro.
I ain't gonna front.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Like I told Chris, y'all, niggas had my get low gang.
Y'all ain't had them under pressure, but them niggas was mad.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Y'all. Niggas was taking car service from Philly to Manhattan,
and they was mad that they had to take the train.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
From Brooklyn to man See everybody having issues that niggas Like.
I used to look at them and be like, yo, money,
are y'all serious?

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
They coming two three hours away, y'all. Niggas is riding
three stops. Why you need a car for that? But
that was the ship we used to be for about.
Niggas just wanted ship that you know everybody else was getting.
That's the one thing niggas see somebody else with it,
they wanted it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
That's how the only thing that gets you, the only
thing they get you that is hard work exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
And my thing is, do you ever think it's gonna
meet I'm praying for. I want to know your pig.
You ever think it's gonna be a Rockefeller reunion tour?

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Anything in shaller? I mean, I hope. So who would
be dope for hip hop?

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Definitely?

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
I don't know one thing. I know one thing for
it to happen. Niggas gotta be on time. Be niggas
can't be late. And not you with no name, no blake,
you know, niggas can't be late. This whole will look
at it like, first of all, it's one minute past
show time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Everything can too fuck everybody? Send everybody home? You fucking
kidding me? We fifty nine seconds late. That's over straight up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
So that's the one thing I say, we gotta definitely
fix before we go back to the home.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
You're like, yo, we got our shit together.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
We gotta make sure some other members, No, we gotta
get them two hours before showtime.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Time. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Thing we just need to have like everybody, get everybody
together and have a conversation, like a real serious conversation.
If niggas want it, that's what we gotta do. If not,
don't even waste the time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
That's a fact, bro, That's a super fact. Definitely, Yo.
And one thing you know, of course, people always want
to ask man like me, I don't give a fuck.
I remember saying when I heard the homie talking about
it so much, I'm like, free, what we're gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
You wanna ride down? And then I got cool with
the old man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
It's like, damn Free. We can't even jump them no more.
But Yo, how's your relationship with Cassidy?

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
Man's definitely just together at solbs Pray, like about a
month ago.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Do you know?

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
Speaking of Hot nine seven, I'm gonna give you some
game like when we just the night of Battle Cassidy
was right after.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
After Hot ninety seven.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Yeah five people don't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Yeah, a lot of people don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
You went straight from Hot ninety seven to baduing Cash
and then niggas tried to hate on you because you said, Yo,
put a beat on And it's like any rap of that,
especially with your kind of flow.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
He knew he couldn't know when he couldn't fucked with
you on no beat. I'm gonna tell you some shit.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
So throughout my life, like since i've been little, Like
I told you about this relationship that I got with
the law, and he never let me go too far
to either side, like you know what I'm saying, Like
a night where I'm monster the Hot nine seven, and
I would have probably been running around with the biggest

(01:05:21):
head in the world. I battled Cassidy and I took
a little l like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
So that's a lesson to me, Like you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
And humiliity, like never feel like you too good and
you better than everybody because you always could take all
you always, you know what I'm saying, everybody not Floyd Maywell.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
That's right what I'm saying. So but fact, you know,
twenty something.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
Years later, I'm living good. I'm good lie, and I've
been through a bunch of shit and I'm still here
staying to talk.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Would you, you know, with Versus and all that shit,
and that shit probably who knows if it even come back.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Would you have a battle cast again we're supposed to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Yeah. Uh, we had a little situation where you are
and everything. Oh wow, damn this call apart.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
But you know, we was getting it together and I'm
pretty sure has some ship ready.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
You know cats definitely one of them Spinners, man, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
You're still around two later, they still still expected.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Man, you gotta respect all the guys from our ever
because it was nothing but Spinners in that time. It
was no way to come short like pause, you had to.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
I was heated back then. I was pissed, of course,
like that's another person. Like I thought that that ship
came out like motherfucker said that ship on DVDs and
everything like that ship was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
But but bro, mother fuck still be talking about this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
But you can't be castidy yo.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Chill man. They can't still be on that man, dude. Yah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Both had wonderful careers, man, but you done fucking taught
the world.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
We done have been everywhere, man, for sure. We done
been all over this world and we're still doing it.
Like I told you, you're one of the only rappers
that I know still to this day that got ten
shows in five days.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
I don't even know how you do it. Every day
I look up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
You in another city getting another award, doing something at
a school, graduating these students. Like You're one of the
hardest working people I know. And that's why I know
when I call you, you always there, man, no matter
what if I need you for anything, free like bleak,
I got you, man, But I need these days off
because I'm booked these days.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
But you definitely tell me bleek, I got you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
I've been trying to get down here for a minute,
but been so crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
And I respect that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Man. You know that you're my brother. I love you
for life to all the time. It is another episode
of rock Solid.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
We here early.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
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