March 10, 2026 • 30 mins
Drink Champs Network Presents: ROC Solid with Memphis Bleek.
This week on ROC Solid, we tappin’ in with none other than Max B — Harlem’s own sits down for an in-depth conversation that hip-hop fans have been waiting to hear. Known for pioneering the “wavy” sound that influenced an entire generation, Max B reflects on his journey, legacy, and the impact he’s had on the culture. 🌊🎤
Throughout the interview, Max B speaks candidly about his rise during the mixtape era and how his unique melodic style helped shape the sound of modern hip-hop. He shares stories from his early days in Harlem, the creation of his signature wave movement, and how his music continued to resonate with fans even during his time away. The conversation also touches on the artists he influenced and the continued appreciation for his catalog across the rap world.
With raw honesty and reflection, Max B discusses growth, perseverance, and what the future holds for him creatively. The episode captures the essence of an artist whose voice and style left a permanent mark on hip-hop culture.
Filled with gems, storytelling, and classic hip-hop energy, this ROC Solid interview is a must-listen for fans who want to hear directly from one of rap’s most influential and enigmatic figures. 🌊🔥
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You should. Nobody knows. You should nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah, y'all you already know what it is. Back with
another exclusive. Yours truly am greasy with the legendary motherfucking
wave God. You when you talk of Harlem, when you
talk of this music that moved New York City early
two thousands, you cannot mention it without mentioning the Waveguard.
Let's welcome my Gmax beating the building?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
What's up? The change off?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
And I got the cheat code that's a dail damn
left right left right.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
A B start yo, chill. That was the motherfucking that
was the what what what you know what game Contra?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Really the oves that was Condra up down yo, chill.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yat niggas with the old Nintendo code, my neigg let's get.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Into it, yo.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So early two thousands, you know what I'm saying, Like
New York was on fire, my G Dipset was just
making they move, taking over the city, and here come
the wave God Max, B what was that like back then?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
For you?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
My G?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I just was locked up looking at a they happened, and.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I was like, I know them, niggast.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
That was my situation. Damn.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
That's dope man. So you this was a case prior
to the situation, and.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I was locked up in like two thousand two, two
thousand and three, about to come home.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I seen a bunch of niggas in the magazine that
I knew.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
That was making music. Yeah, yeah, I was like, Yo,
this is a no braining. I know all these niggas.
I'm gonna get in fast.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, that's how that went. That's a fact, my g.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So when you first started recording, did you realize the
melodic style that you was using was different from everybody
else or was that something you like, I'm gonna come
take over.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
This is my shit. I just want to be productive.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Look, I just want to get the people good shit
that's right that they can live with, that they can
stay with, that they can have for years to come.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
That's right, you did. You did that because.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
My gyu was locked up before you got locked up.
Let's just get back to the two thousand DVD. Come up,
Smack you know what I mean, shout out there, any
nigga DVD I forgot. You know what I'm saying, Come
up the Koch Boys, because French, you know what I mean.
French was behind the lens back then, you know what
I mean, Like those DVDs you had them shits on
(02:40):
Smash anything Underground was max b Man, Like I know
that had to feel like some type of championship, Like Nigga,
I made it like was itever a moment you felt that.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
It's moments like this right here. I don't go back
and say that shit messh out.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So you ain't one of them niggas that dwell on
the past. I focus right now.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
That's dope. I love this shit too much. That's dope.
And I love what I do for the people.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You know what I mean, Like you, for instance, you
a nigga when I was younger, just coming up, Like
you know what I'm saying, fuck with bo, So to
be here at this spot.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's a big moment.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I appreciate our chambor shit, nah man, I appreciate it, bro,
because I'm a fan, you know what I mean. Like
a lot of people are welcome on this platform. It
ain't just it ain't just like I want to I
want to know your story. I really fuck with you
if I want to know you bring them up, you
(03:48):
know what I'm saying, Like you a solid nigga. I
welcome you here. So back then, like I told you
when we was on Drink Champs, the perm God out
there with the wave tank top on bell an even buckle,
they got about thirty grand in his head, talk this
shit telling niggas ain't outside, they don't want it that.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I'm a fan of that shit.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I love that because we all from that era and
that's that grind that got us here, you know what
I mean. Like during the public Domain mixtape, man, it
was going hard.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Man, what was that process?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Like, I just trying to put me out there, put
myself out there, get a.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
People, a just a taste.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
A snippet of who I am, and you know, Domain
is one of my ways to do it. And ain't
it ain't nothing else. Yeah, that's like a mixtape shity
that when I go in on that this Max, this
this Max in a red form.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Like you know, everybody, I want to definitely welcome you
home with my g because you know, I know you
was dealing with some real shit, but I know it
had to feel some type of like triumph knowing how
hard French was out here fighting for you, every anybody
was fighting for you. And then to see the impact
you put with all the new artists out here, because Bro,
(05:06):
your impact is insane. Like a lot of people out here,
they want to be the wave man. So how that feel.
You're gonna start your own unit, the wave unit? Anybody
get down and laid out.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
It's love bleak Like, I'm humble that that people fucking
my shit to this day.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I'm humbled that even though I.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Did eighteen years in prison, people still fucking my shit
to this day.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
That's a blessing. Yeah. So I just appreciate it. I
respect it.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I got love for the people as I love for
my fans, and this who I do it for?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Nobody else?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That's right, Like you know I have saying you even
got me saying it the wave. You know everybody every
borough got their shit. You know what I mean, Brooklyn,
his son, Queens. It was done, Harlem. Now y'all got
the wave?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
My gee, I got it, hot, hot, get over here,
you got it?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
How was that like for you? Career?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Was that something just in the stood just like man,
fuck man, I'm the waveguard.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That was like, naw, what I was saying was this.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I was like, damn, everybody's saying like Paul, no, yo,
bro on my dick Bro. I'm like, Nah, we ain't
gonna do that. How about nigga riding a wave. We
ain't gonna say Dick d no more? How about wave
by and the wave just came in on something. That's
how I came in. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Show when you hear.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
The wave or yo, bro, Dick is not Dick riding
bro riding a wave.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
He appreciating the music. That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's another reason why I love doing this shit, my gee,
because I had no idea it was the opposite of
Dick riding niggas riding a waves. It's a lot of
niggas riding away, my g like you, that ship is
in the vocabulary now. Added for sure when you listen
(07:09):
to today's artists, everything is melodic now, everybody saying everybody.
You know, it's a lot of pain, a lot of struggle.
You know a lot of these young kids. Do you
feel like you get the credit for setting that blueprint?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Nah, because before me, there was others. There was whole
there was no but they wasn't harmonize.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
But I still learned from them. No, that's a fact
that I learn from them. I still learned from now.
I still learned from them. I still took they they
they formulas, whatever they I took a grab a piece.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
From that, and I work on all that shit count.
You know what I'm saying. That's what's up, man.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
What surprised you most about hip hop that changed since
you've been home?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
What surprised me most about hip hop to this day?
Right now? That listen, we're a young game. We're not
even fifty years old.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I think we are. Hip hop just celebrated right there,
Yeah we right there? Yeah, and correct me if I'm wrong, y'all.
You know we smoke weed up here.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Just be in that strategy fare me being able to
tap into that. I'm with the ship. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. I'm with the ship, yo.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Like you came straight home, straight to the Jets game,
straight to the studio, straight on the jet to motherfucking
hit minx. Like you feel like you're still on that
high or you got time to settle yet?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Did you really get reality? I just do what I do, bleak.
I never was on the high. Oh that's just like
this when.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Niggas never was on the high. I come out, I
wake up every day, I execute and get it done,
go about my business.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I don't complain, I don't cry, that's right, that's right.
I just go out there and get after it and
do what it do. And this is the result.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You're one of the most I don't want to say,
work a whole in or work it most consistent, especially
like taking that time off. You know, a lot of rappers,
even like myself, niggas get lazy. Niggas get lax, and
then to see you come home, drop a mix tape,
the album with French. Then now you're working on another
mixtape in another hour, another one.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I know I'm lazy, like as J you bullshit with
the bars blee.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Like yo, A little bit of that too. I had
to do. Say, you know what, I got me chilling
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But what gave you the motivation to just keep going
knocking them joints.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Out like that? Just the money, that's a fact. The
fact that after all this time, niggas still fuck with me.
Mm hmm. That's a drive for me right there.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
So I don't care, blik, I just go out there
and eat man. Man, I feel like.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
The whole world is the Internet. You could do what
you want. Nobody's stopping nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
That's a fact. It's a free world. That when I
came and I was like this, yo, little b I came,
I was like this easy, yo, you ain't lying. It
is easy.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
They opened it up and made it easy for niggas,
and I'm not gonna I said.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
This, yo. Bro.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I used to be telling these artists when we had
the label Warehouse. I used to be telling these niggas,
you're bro. If I had it like this, bro, I
would have been able to do X y Z Nigga.
I'm forty years old. Give me twenty years back.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I'll show you niggas what like and niggas looking at
me like, blik what you mean. It's like, nigga, you get.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
To promote yourself. You have fans following you, watching you.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
All you gotta do is drop the heat, go out there,
get a goog work.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, good music, just get after it. Yeah, good music
changes that. I tell everybody every day. Man only take
one record to change your whole family's trajectory.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Bro, It's insane.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I used to be in jail listening to the tapes.
I was in prison listening to the tape. So for
me to be sitting here right now, it's a privilege.
It's an on them. You know what I'm saying. It's
some love shit.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, man, expect like like, let's talk about when death
on the bitch man, that's the motherfucking I don't want
to say that something. That's the year record. If yall
niggas don't win a Grammy for that ship, they rigged
the votings, Like, that's how hard that record is?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
My g what was your mindset?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I know we talked about it before, but my people
probably ain't hear it.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I don't make hit records. I make records, but now
it's his DS. I don't know. That's probably the weakest
part of my game. Yo, chill.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
So when you got a nigga like French, my brother,
he comes to me, go, Yo, listen, close the door,
get all these niggas out the room.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I got something for you. He opens a fuck it,
this is for us. What's that? It's a hit record.
I've been holding this, yo. French are good nigga. Remember
found the.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Game was like Jumanji opening the box for that record,
and I still ain't get it.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
So I don't want to take credit for that record. MM,
but you got to you on it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I'm on it, but I'm not gonna take the credit
for you on this, my boy ship, he said, he
don't want to say, Yo, this the one for so.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Got to get a shout out your posita. Bro.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
That's bro, that's right now. Bro, he holds it down. Man,
I seen French come from like I said, Coke Boys
DVDs to now touring the world in your favorite.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
What the fuck was you doing? Because I was locked up? Yo,
Like when you stop and got with this, like, Yo,
nigga got questions for me? I love it?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yo did this Nori?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Man?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, I did drink Champs right, So I did drink Champs.
I ended up doing drink Champs three times. I'm gonna
keep it all the way. Fackt with you. I did
drink Champs twice, so it was the third time. Nor
recall them and Yo, bleak, I need you drink Champs again.
And I'm like, Yo, my nigga, like for what what
you're gonna ask me?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
We spoke about everything.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
There's nothing else, so he like, I trust me now
this is the new word.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Algorithm. Nah, I know the algorithm. Bleeve I got it.
Trust me, I'm gonna put you in there. You live.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So I end up doing it. We gonna major viras.
Li's say, major virus. So now I was like, oh
this algorithm word. So then nor recalling me, you're bleak.
They want you to do your own show. I'm like,
and no, I'm not a journalist, but can't be.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
He like, now, they just want you to talk your
ship and talk to the niggas you funk with and
all that. And I'm like, all right, let me try.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
So I did it.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
You know, of course, you know how it go when
you first started.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I don't even know the cloud you got to you
make the calls, yo, that's the fact, my g damn,
I know, man.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
The one that shocked me was Cam. What Cam said,
nah do? It was like I had to call my man. Yo.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
You were calling favors. Look how you calling in favors.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Like niggas pop up, niggas pulling up? When I pulled up,
I was half dead.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I forgot. I said, oh you big fella said he
look bleak. I said, oh shit, I think she poke.
But I respect the game man, you super lit man.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I appreciate you even pulling up, because, bro, when you
on fire, like you on fire?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, I don't even see it. I just worked. Now
you on fire, Captain, I really work. You're on fire.
I interview a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
My nigga, my room, don't be packed, my ship looking
like Drake chips right, my ship lit back.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Then shout out the homies that pulled up. Word up man, yo.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So if somebody knew discovered max BT music for the
first time, what would be the first record you were
telling them to start with?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
You go to domain one and you bring yourself up
to speed one, two, three, four, five, six and a
half seven, and it just goes on.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's a fact.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You just get up the speed with the domain. I
want to get on something, get you some domain. Then
I got the million dollar babies one, two three four,
I got a mall.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yo, A million dollar baby was going dumb in the streets.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
You dropping Monday, A new one, A new one, bang
for your buck, me and out baby four Wow. I
got two chains. I got lively June. I got a load,
I got currency, I got a friend.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I got cocky cop. I got niggas on my ship, yo, yo.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Let's sten listen let'sten listen, million dollar Baby on Monday?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I mean this shit dropping Tuesday?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
You heard?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Is we doing a million dollars baby over here? We
ain't playing with her? So after million dollar Baby, what's
next for my dog? Cosmos? Me and friends dropping alb
April Cosmo?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Ya, I'm doing some bullshit with balls like these niggas
just got project.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Y'all fucked up after your project?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Like do you what do you think about uh stepping
into acting or anything outside of music?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Like, I mean, listen, I'm always open, you know, for
different opportunities and things of that nature.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I would love to act one day. That movie.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Definitely, you definitely should do a documentary about your life.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
See but the do any work. We're doing the Max
Beat doc right now. But the movie is different. It's
a different So who go. You're gonna play yourself or
you're gonna get somebody to play you. Man, I got
I got two boys, seventeen and eighteen.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
They can play me. That's It's like, oh, shape, that's right, Jackson,
hold it down, play Ice Ice cute Y's right. So
my boy looked like me more than his boy.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Damn they can, Damn Mom, Mom's damn cute. Damn them
niggas ain't swim up streams.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
My boy looked like me more than ice. Cute boy
looked like him. Come on, work with me.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Let's get it.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That's right man, that's a fact. Man, Like that's dope.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Man. I will, I will.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I would definitely watch the Max b movie because, like
I was about to say, you survived some ship, my.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
G You're gonna have fun. You've been through some shit.
You lived the hell of a life.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Man. You did a you did a lot of shit. Man, Like,
what's what would you say? Because it's a lot of
life to still keep going. But looking back, what would
you say, was the like the proudest moment besides your kids,
because that's the first thing they can say, like, Yo,
I'm proud this moment, and it's like yea with my kids.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I tell a nigga in a minute, I love this
music shit more than anything on the planet.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I've said that no offense to my babies. I love them,
anybody know. But the problems moment for me just being
able to come home after seventy five years after get
convicted of prison, and to be able to still be
(19:31):
in the business and be productive that's a fact.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I'm good with that.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, and step back on nigga's neck like you never
laugh my nigga, Like I know, to you it's like
nigga because I was on these niggas next before. I know.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
But man, when I went in, it's not easy. Bro.
Everybody don't come home.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Everybody don't come home from jail. Lick listen, let me
tell you some shit. I don't look at it like that, man,
I look at it like this. I'm back on y'all.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Assess you really are. Don't straighten up? Ship up or
ship what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
A lot of rappers like I'm an artist, so I know, man,
walk in that studio, everybody think, Dad, I'm gonna make
this that ship right here, this that joint. But to
really really come home and do it, my nigga, it's
a big difference. Man. We watched a lot of artists
go to jail come home and they ain't ain't got.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
It no more.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's just like they lost a little step, you know
what I mean. I feel like you got better, you
got new flows in prison.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
The whole time I had my own studio in prison,
had a studio in myself, had a workstation in myself.
I was in written music and rhymes from the day
I was in prison. I never stopped writing. I never
gave up on my craft. I love my craft.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That's right. So you hear it. You don't not hear
it even the times I was that, you hear it.
You music in prison? Definitely, then you could tell it's hard.
Sh Joe House money fuck y'all up with that boss
(21:12):
Don big belt ship.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
With men like yo yo seeing seeing like, how do
you know the money is different now?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
It was money. The money was great back then, but
the money is greater today. That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Got a lot of different corporations investing in those ship.
You know what I'm saying, niggas sponsor you what niggas
wasn't sponsoring.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
But seeing all these young boys make.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
All this money and jeopardize it throwing it away going
to the system. A nigga who lived that life, been
through it, man, what would you say to these guys
that you know what I mean? Because it's too many
young boys that just throwing it away for nothing.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
He just don't know. They naive a naive to this ship.
We've been through. That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
But we gotta be the big homies, and we gotta
lead them, and we gotta hold them accountable. We gotta
take the initiative and bring them up because we the
big homies.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
They look up to us.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
These young niggas out here don't got nobody look up to.
When I was in Jersey jail, them old niggas ain't
give a fuck about none of them young niggas.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Then I'm like, why y'all niggas don't fuck what? Man?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Fuck these young niggas. That was like the whole mindset,
And I'm like, look, this ship make the world go round.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
The more y'all niggas step up and take the initiative
and hold these young nigga account and we bring and
we bridge the gap, the stronger we're gonna be.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
That's a fact. Man.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
They definitely need guidance because these little niggas is lost. Man.
But you know what would you say to the little
niggas that don't listen? Because I was a little nigga
who listened, but out of my homies didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Because it was different when we were coming up Blue,
I'm forty seven, show the same age, all right. The
niggas I was coming up with that brought me up.
We looked up to them. They really had something to
show us. They're like, look, y'all want to be like this.
Look follow this, that's right.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
These niggas out here today is like, man, fuck you.
You don't want to listen to me. Fuck you. That's
not the mindset. Nope. You can't leave these niggas out
here like that. That's why the game is not what
it is what it used to be. Man, I definitely agree.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
You can't leave these little niggas on the island by theyself,
and no guy can't.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
They need us. A lot of these.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Ogs, so called ogs, want to be the little niggas.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Listen, it is what it is. You gotta drip. You're
a fly nigga, like you wear your clothes goods.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
They look at you as a y n Fine. At
the end of the day, you all what you are, nigga.
You're forty. Be forty, that's right, your fifty be fifty.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Own it, that's right. The more you own it, the
better it look, that's right. The more you try to
be not what you is, the worse you look.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
That's right. So I just be myself. I stick to
the script. I stick to what I love.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I should put my family, my kids, my wife, my niggas,
and I just keep it pushing my nigga.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
This shit works, That's all I tell you that like
love it. I don't give a fuck. You know, I
ain't gonna hold you.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I know we all got busy schedules, life to live,
shit to do, We got music to head, you know
what I'm saying. But I want there's a personal question.
I wanted to always know from you, like you know,
we grow, our mentality change. You got a million dollar
baby dropping Monday, You got Cosmos on the way.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I know you and Jim had a major turbulent you
know past.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Do you believe that in the future or with that,
is it a possibility that could ever be put the
rest where y'all you ever see a day where y'all
be cardial?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
You've gotta be cool to be cardial.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
If it makes sense and it makes money, it always
gonna make money. If it makes money and it makes
sense and it makes big veil. Anything else is uncivilized.
I don't give a fuck because guess what I'm doing
well and I'm giftedly crafted and my shit is up
to speed, So I really don't give a fuck who
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on my level or not.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I'm gonna do what I do. But if it makes
sense and it makes money, then it makes max big veil.
I definitely believe it's gonna make money.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
It'll make a ton of motherfucking marsh Get it mean,
Mac's bigger valid Jim at the drama is bags on
bags on, bags on.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Bag get ship up. His algorithm is a little nah.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
His ship lit, he been lit, He been lit. Yo, Chill, chill,
I'm outside. He lit on the algorithms though, that's smoke
over there. I said, look, what would you thought? Brow
and the loop your hell?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah? They loopy right now? Loopy motherfusser bro listen, yr
niggas is yall niggas. Look, I just want to say
to you before you say.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I'm gonna let you say what you say, but I
just want to say, welcome home from one real one
to another, from a fans to a nigga that I like.
Don't stop, continue to put pressure, stay on niggas next
my nigga, and keep the wave going because you keep
inspiring my g we the same age.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
But to me, nigga, you got ten years of youthful
worried out by you got anything to say before we
get up out of there. Listen, I got no power
with me and Bro going back in the lab. That's right.
(27:22):
But his ship gotta be up.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Because my ship is next level. I'm in the matrix.
So for you to get in the laugh with a
nigga like me, you got to be here.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I'm here. It's just that simple. I believe a nigga.
I ain't gonna cat. I ain't gonna cat. Gym is
nice now, hold on, he nice now.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
So look yall, Oh y'all want to see Jim and
Max big veil y'all. Motherfucker's make y'all, motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Make it make sense. Put the bag on the table,
put the off of a millions of dollars. You heard.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Come on, listen in Gym. I'm kicking the door with you,
and they say they got it, don't worry call me.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I'm coming. You know, we rid yo. Now. We don't
want them on no verses, no what we want, what
you want.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I'm a nigga who buried the hatchet with niggas that
I have problems with and if we're gonna leave the
youth the right way, we gotta show them the right way.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Nigga want to do versus wouldn't be though. You don't
want to do that, yo.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
You don't want to do verses with the big valve
cause when it comes Saul, nobody could fuck with me.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Just call this what it is.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You don't want to do a versions, yo, listen, but
we could go in the lab and make history, yo,
but just make it make sense.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Swiss high at me. You know what I mean. You
need a promoter. High at me.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I've got on both sides. I ain't swizzle, yo, lay
Swiss talk to me, baby. I don't want no beat
this time. Max b Jimmy the city on a bird
game two point oh oh my Jesus, and I need
the money and shout out the homie gym, shout out
(29:12):
the whole bird gang.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Dip set man.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Y'all niggas created a wave in forever historic and Max,
you continue to keep making history and telling your story.
Like I said, my nigga, continue to keep winning. You
don't stop baby for life. I appreciate him out here.
Solid Yeah, yeah, I'm not growing up a little man,
(29:38):
I'm on my veggie dying Baby. I'm on my veggie
diy Yo, cheech we outside Max. I need a drop
from you. Just need rock solid baby.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yo, it's your boy, Max bigg A Veil. Shout to
my nigga Bleaked. This is rock solid. We just pulled
up Max bigg A Veil Man Bleak the legend we
were out shy Rocky dollar baby, million out of baby
coming Monday. Beg for your fucking.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Buck, million dollars on the neck, million dollars on the rents.
Nigga fuck niggas. Work for more podcasts from iHeart Radio,
visit iHeartRadio, app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to
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Speaker 1 (30:29):
You see anybody fraud in flagging
You should. Nobody knows. You should nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah, y'all you already know what it is. Back with
another exclusive. Yours truly am greasy with the legendary motherfucking
wave God. You when you talk of Harlem, when you
talk of this music that moved New York City early
two thousands, you cannot mention it without mentioning the Waveguard.
Let's welcome my Gmax beating the building?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
What's up? The change off?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
And I got the cheat code that's a dail damn
left right left right.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
A B start yo, chill. That was the motherfucking that
was the what what what you know what game Contra?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Really the oves that was Condra up down yo, chill.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yat niggas with the old Nintendo code, my neigg let's get.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Into it, yo.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So early two thousands, you know what I'm saying, Like
New York was on fire, my G Dipset was just
making they move, taking over the city, and here come
the wave God Max, B what was that like back then?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
For you?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
My G?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I just was locked up looking at a they happened, and.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I was like, I know them, niggast.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
That was my situation. Damn.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
That's dope man. So you this was a case prior
to the situation, and.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I was locked up in like two thousand two, two
thousand and three, about to come home.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I seen a bunch of niggas in the magazine that
I knew.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
That was making music. Yeah, yeah, I was like, Yo,
this is a no braining. I know all these niggas.
I'm gonna get in fast.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, that's how that went. That's a fact, my g.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
So when you first started recording, did you realize the
melodic style that you was using was different from everybody
else or was that something you like, I'm gonna come
take over.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
This is my shit. I just want to be productive.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Look, I just want to get the people good shit
that's right that they can live with, that they can
stay with, that they can have for years to come.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
That's right, you did. You did that because.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
My gyu was locked up before you got locked up.
Let's just get back to the two thousand DVD. Come up,
Smack you know what I mean, shout out there, any
nigga DVD I forgot. You know what I'm saying, Come
up the Koch Boys, because French, you know what I mean.
French was behind the lens back then, you know what
I mean, Like those DVDs you had them shits on
(02:40):
Smash anything Underground was max b Man, Like I know
that had to feel like some type of championship, Like Nigga,
I made it like was itever a moment you felt that.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
It's moments like this right here. I don't go back
and say that shit messh out.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So you ain't one of them niggas that dwell on
the past. I focus right now.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
That's dope. I love this shit too much. That's dope.
And I love what I do for the people.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You know what I mean, Like you, for instance, you
a nigga when I was younger, just coming up, Like
you know what I'm saying, fuck with bo, So to
be here at this spot.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's a big moment.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I appreciate our chambor shit, nah man, I appreciate it, bro,
because I'm a fan, you know what I mean. Like
a lot of people are welcome on this platform. It
ain't just it ain't just like I want to I
want to know your story. I really fuck with you
if I want to know you bring them up, you
(03:48):
know what I'm saying, Like you a solid nigga. I
welcome you here. So back then, like I told you
when we was on Drink Champs, the perm God out
there with the wave tank top on bell an even buckle,
they got about thirty grand in his head, talk this
shit telling niggas ain't outside, they don't want it that.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I'm a fan of that shit.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I love that because we all from that era and
that's that grind that got us here, you know what
I mean. Like during the public Domain mixtape, man, it
was going hard.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Man, what was that process?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Like, I just trying to put me out there, put
myself out there, get a.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
People, a just a taste.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
A snippet of who I am, and you know, Domain
is one of my ways to do it. And ain't
it ain't nothing else. Yeah, that's like a mixtape shity
that when I go in on that this Max, this
this Max in a red form.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Like you know, everybody, I want to definitely welcome you
home with my g because you know, I know you
was dealing with some real shit, but I know it
had to feel some type of like triumph knowing how
hard French was out here fighting for you, every anybody
was fighting for you. And then to see the impact
you put with all the new artists out here, because Bro,
(05:06):
your impact is insane. Like a lot of people out here,
they want to be the wave man. So how that feel.
You're gonna start your own unit, the wave unit? Anybody
get down and laid out.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
It's love bleak Like, I'm humble that that people fucking
my shit to this day.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I'm humbled that even though I.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Did eighteen years in prison, people still fucking my shit
to this day.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
That's a blessing. Yeah. So I just appreciate it. I
respect it.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I got love for the people as I love for
my fans, and this who I do it for?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Nobody else?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That's right, Like you know I have saying you even
got me saying it the wave. You know everybody every
borough got their shit. You know what I mean, Brooklyn,
his son, Queens. It was done, Harlem. Now y'all got
the wave?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
My gee, I got it, hot, hot, get over here,
you got it?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
How was that like for you? Career?
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Was that something just in the stood just like man,
fuck man, I'm the waveguard.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That was like, naw, what I was saying was this.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I was like, damn, everybody's saying like Paul, no, yo,
bro on my dick Bro. I'm like, Nah, we ain't
gonna do that. How about nigga riding a wave. We
ain't gonna say Dick d no more? How about wave
by and the wave just came in on something. That's
how I came in. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Show when you hear.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
The wave or yo, bro, Dick is not Dick riding
bro riding a wave.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
He appreciating the music. That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's another reason why I love doing this shit, my gee,
because I had no idea it was the opposite of
Dick riding niggas riding a waves. It's a lot of
niggas riding away, my g like you, that ship is
in the vocabulary now. Added for sure when you listen
(07:09):
to today's artists, everything is melodic now, everybody saying everybody.
You know, it's a lot of pain, a lot of struggle.
You know a lot of these young kids. Do you
feel like you get the credit for setting that blueprint?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Nah, because before me, there was others. There was whole
there was no but they wasn't harmonize.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
But I still learned from them. No, that's a fact
that I learn from them. I still learned from now.
I still learned from them. I still took they they
they formulas, whatever they I took a grab a piece.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
From that, and I work on all that shit count.
You know what I'm saying. That's what's up, man.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
What surprised you most about hip hop that changed since
you've been home?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
What surprised me most about hip hop to this day?
Right now? That listen, we're a young game. We're not
even fifty years old.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I think we are. Hip hop just celebrated right there,
Yeah we right there? Yeah, and correct me if I'm wrong, y'all.
You know we smoke weed up here.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Just be in that strategy fare me being able to
tap into that. I'm with the ship. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. I'm with the ship, yo.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Like you came straight home, straight to the Jets game,
straight to the studio, straight on the jet to motherfucking
hit minx. Like you feel like you're still on that
high or you got time to settle yet?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Did you really get reality? I just do what I do, bleak.
I never was on the high. Oh that's just like
this when.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Niggas never was on the high. I come out, I
wake up every day, I execute and get it done,
go about my business.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I don't complain, I don't cry, that's right, that's right.
I just go out there and get after it and
do what it do. And this is the result.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You're one of the most I don't want to say,
work a whole in or work it most consistent, especially
like taking that time off. You know, a lot of rappers,
even like myself, niggas get lazy. Niggas get lax, and
then to see you come home, drop a mix tape,
the album with French. Then now you're working on another
mixtape in another hour, another one.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I know I'm lazy, like as J you bullshit with
the bars blee.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Like yo, A little bit of that too. I had
to do. Say, you know what, I got me chilling
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But what gave you the motivation to just keep going
knocking them joints.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Out like that? Just the money, that's a fact. The
fact that after all this time, niggas still fuck with me.
Mm hmm. That's a drive for me right there.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
So I don't care, blik, I just go out there
and eat man. Man, I feel like.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
The whole world is the Internet. You could do what
you want. Nobody's stopping nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
That's a fact. It's a free world. That when I
came and I was like this, yo, little b I came,
I was like this easy, yo, you ain't lying. It
is easy.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
They opened it up and made it easy for niggas,
and I'm not gonna I said.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
This, yo. Bro.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I used to be telling these artists when we had
the label Warehouse. I used to be telling these niggas,
you're bro. If I had it like this, bro, I
would have been able to do X y Z Nigga.
I'm forty years old. Give me twenty years back.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I'll show you niggas what like and niggas looking at
me like, blik what you mean. It's like, nigga, you get.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
To promote yourself. You have fans following you, watching you.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
All you gotta do is drop the heat, go out there,
get a goog work.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, good music, just get after it. Yeah, good music
changes that. I tell everybody every day. Man only take
one record to change your whole family's trajectory.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Bro, It's insane.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I used to be in jail listening to the tapes.
I was in prison listening to the tape. So for
me to be sitting here right now, it's a privilege.
It's an on them. You know what I'm saying. It's
some love shit.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, man, expect like like, let's talk about when death
on the bitch man, that's the motherfucking I don't want
to say that something. That's the year record. If yall
niggas don't win a Grammy for that ship, they rigged
the votings, Like, that's how hard that record is?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
My g what was your mindset?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I know we talked about it before, but my people
probably ain't hear it.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I don't make hit records. I make records, but now
it's his DS. I don't know. That's probably the weakest
part of my game. Yo, chill.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
So when you got a nigga like French, my brother,
he comes to me, go, Yo, listen, close the door,
get all these niggas out the room.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I got something for you. He opens a fuck it,
this is for us. What's that? It's a hit record.
I've been holding this, yo. French are good nigga. Remember
found the.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Game was like Jumanji opening the box for that record,
and I still ain't get it.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
So I don't want to take credit for that record. MM,
but you got to you on it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I'm on it, but I'm not gonna take the credit
for you on this, my boy ship, he said, he
don't want to say, Yo, this the one for so.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Got to get a shout out your posita. Bro.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
That's bro, that's right now. Bro, he holds it down. Man,
I seen French come from like I said, Coke Boys
DVDs to now touring the world in your favorite.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
What the fuck was you doing? Because I was locked up? Yo,
Like when you stop and got with this, like, Yo,
nigga got questions for me? I love it?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yo did this Nori?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Man?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, I did drink Champs right, So I did drink Champs.
I ended up doing drink Champs three times. I'm gonna
keep it all the way. Fackt with you. I did
drink Champs twice, so it was the third time. Nor
recall them and Yo, bleak, I need you drink Champs again.
And I'm like, Yo, my nigga, like for what what
you're gonna ask me?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
We spoke about everything.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
There's nothing else, so he like, I trust me now
this is the new word.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Algorithm. Nah, I know the algorithm. Bleeve I got it.
Trust me, I'm gonna put you in there. You live.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So I end up doing it. We gonna major viras.
Li's say, major virus. So now I was like, oh
this algorithm word. So then nor recalling me, you're bleak.
They want you to do your own show. I'm like,
and no, I'm not a journalist, but can't be.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
You don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
He like, now, they just want you to talk your
ship and talk to the niggas you funk with and
all that. And I'm like, all right, let me try.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
So I did it.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
You know, of course, you know how it go when
you first started.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I don't even know the cloud you got to you
make the calls, yo, that's the fact, my g damn,
I know, man.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
The one that shocked me was Cam. What Cam said,
nah do? It was like I had to call my man. Yo.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
You were calling favors. Look how you calling in favors.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Like niggas pop up, niggas pulling up? When I pulled up,
I was half dead.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I forgot. I said, oh you big fella said he
look bleak. I said, oh shit, I think she poke.
But I respect the game man, you super lit man.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I appreciate you even pulling up, because, bro, when you
on fire, like you on fire?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, I don't even see it. I just worked. Now
you on fire, Captain, I really work. You're on fire.
I interview a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
My nigga, my room, don't be packed, my ship looking
like Drake chips right, my ship lit back.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Then shout out the homies that pulled up. Word up man, yo.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So if somebody knew discovered max BT music for the
first time, what would be the first record you were
telling them to start with?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
You go to domain one and you bring yourself up
to speed one, two, three, four, five, six and a
half seven, and it just goes on.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's a fact.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You just get up the speed with the domain. I
want to get on something, get you some domain. Then
I got the million dollar babies one, two three four,
I got a mall.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yo, A million dollar baby was going dumb in the streets.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
You dropping Monday, A new one, A new one, bang
for your buck, me and out baby four Wow. I
got two chains. I got lively June. I got a load,
I got currency, I got a friend.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I got cocky cop. I got niggas on my ship, yo, yo.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Let's sten listen let'sten listen, million dollar Baby on Monday?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I mean this shit dropping Tuesday?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
You heard?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Is we doing a million dollars baby over here? We
ain't playing with her? So after million dollar Baby, what's
next for my dog? Cosmos? Me and friends dropping alb
April Cosmo?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Ya, I'm doing some bullshit with balls like these niggas
just got project.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Y'all fucked up after your project?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Like do you what do you think about uh stepping
into acting or anything outside of music?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Like, I mean, listen, I'm always open, you know, for
different opportunities and things of that nature.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I would love to act one day. That movie.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Definitely, you definitely should do a documentary about your life.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
See but the do any work. We're doing the Max
Beat doc right now. But the movie is different. It's
a different So who go. You're gonna play yourself or
you're gonna get somebody to play you. Man, I got
I got two boys, seventeen and eighteen.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
They can play me. That's It's like, oh, shape, that's right, Jackson,
hold it down, play Ice Ice cute Y's right. So
my boy looked like me more than his boy.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Damn they can, Damn Mom, Mom's damn cute. Damn them
niggas ain't swim up streams.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
My boy looked like me more than ice. Cute boy
looked like him. Come on, work with me.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Let's get it.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That's right man, that's a fact. Man, Like that's dope.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Man. I will, I will.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I would definitely watch the Max b movie because, like
I was about to say, you survived some ship, my.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
G You're gonna have fun. You've been through some shit.
You lived the hell of a life.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Man. You did a you did a lot of shit. Man, Like,
what's what would you say? Because it's a lot of
life to still keep going. But looking back, what would
you say, was the like the proudest moment besides your kids,
because that's the first thing they can say, like, Yo,
I'm proud this moment, and it's like yea with my kids.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I tell a nigga in a minute, I love this
music shit more than anything on the planet.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I've said that no offense to my babies. I love them,
anybody know. But the problems moment for me just being
able to come home after seventy five years after get
convicted of prison, and to be able to still be
(19:31):
in the business and be productive that's a fact.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I'm good with that.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah, and step back on nigga's neck like you never
laugh my nigga, Like I know, to you it's like
nigga because I was on these niggas next before. I know.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
But man, when I went in, it's not easy. Bro.
Everybody don't come home.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Everybody don't come home from jail. Lick listen, let me
tell you some shit. I don't look at it like that, man,
I look at it like this. I'm back on y'all.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Assess you really are. Don't straighten up? Ship up or
ship what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
A lot of rappers like I'm an artist, so I know, man,
walk in that studio, everybody think, Dad, I'm gonna make
this that ship right here, this that joint. But to
really really come home and do it, my nigga, it's
a big difference. Man. We watched a lot of artists
go to jail come home and they ain't ain't got.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
It no more.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's just like they lost a little step, you know
what I mean. I feel like you got better, you
got new flows in prison.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
The whole time I had my own studio in prison,
had a studio in myself, had a workstation in myself.
I was in written music and rhymes from the day
I was in prison. I never stopped writing. I never
gave up on my craft. I love my craft.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
That's right. So you hear it. You don't not hear
it even the times I was that, you hear it.
You music in prison? Definitely, then you could tell it's hard.
Sh Joe House money fuck y'all up with that boss
(21:12):
Don big belt ship.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
With men like yo yo seeing seeing like, how do
you know the money is different now?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
It was money. The money was great back then, but
the money is greater today. That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Got a lot of different corporations investing in those ship.
You know what I'm saying, niggas sponsor you what niggas
wasn't sponsoring.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
But seeing all these young boys make.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
All this money and jeopardize it throwing it away going
to the system. A nigga who lived that life, been
through it, man, what would you say to these guys
that you know what I mean? Because it's too many
young boys that just throwing it away for nothing.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
He just don't know. They naive a naive to this ship.
We've been through. That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
But we gotta be the big homies, and we gotta
lead them, and we gotta hold them accountable. We gotta
take the initiative and bring them up because we the
big homies.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
They look up to us.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
These young niggas out here don't got nobody look up to.
When I was in Jersey jail, them old niggas ain't
give a fuck about none of them young niggas.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Then I'm like, why y'all niggas don't fuck what? Man?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Fuck these young niggas. That was like the whole mindset,
And I'm like, look, this ship make the world go round.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
The more y'all niggas step up and take the initiative
and hold these young nigga account and we bring and
we bridge the gap, the stronger we're gonna be.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
That's a fact. Man.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
They definitely need guidance because these little niggas is lost. Man.
But you know what would you say to the little
niggas that don't listen? Because I was a little nigga
who listened, but out of my homies didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Because it was different when we were coming up Blue,
I'm forty seven, show the same age, all right. The
niggas I was coming up with that brought me up.
We looked up to them. They really had something to
show us. They're like, look, y'all want to be like this.
Look follow this, that's right.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
These niggas out here today is like, man, fuck you.
You don't want to listen to me. Fuck you. That's
not the mindset. Nope. You can't leave these niggas out
here like that. That's why the game is not what
it is what it used to be. Man, I definitely agree.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
You can't leave these little niggas on the island by theyself,
and no guy can't.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
They need us. A lot of these.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Ogs, so called ogs, want to be the little niggas.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Listen, it is what it is. You gotta drip. You're
a fly nigga, like you wear your clothes goods.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
They look at you as a y n Fine. At
the end of the day, you all what you are, nigga.
You're forty. Be forty, that's right, your fifty be fifty.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Own it, that's right. The more you own it, the
better it look, that's right. The more you try to
be not what you is, the worse you look.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
That's right. So I just be myself. I stick to
the script. I stick to what I love.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I should put my family, my kids, my wife, my niggas,
and I just keep it pushing my nigga.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
This shit works, That's all I tell you that like
love it. I don't give a fuck. You know, I
ain't gonna hold you.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I know we all got busy schedules, life to live,
shit to do, We got music to head, you know
what I'm saying. But I want there's a personal question.
I wanted to always know from you, like you know,
we grow, our mentality change. You got a million dollar
baby dropping Monday, You got Cosmos on the way.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I know you and Jim had a major turbulent you
know past.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Do you believe that in the future or with that,
is it a possibility that could ever be put the
rest where y'all you ever see a day where y'all
be cardial?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
You've gotta be cool to be cardial.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
If it makes sense and it makes money, it always
gonna make money. If it makes money and it makes
sense and it makes big veil. Anything else is uncivilized.
I don't give a fuck because guess what I'm doing
well and I'm giftedly crafted and my shit is up
to speed, So I really don't give a fuck who
(25:43):
on my level or not.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I'm gonna do what I do. But if it makes
sense and it makes money, then it makes max big veil.
I definitely believe it's gonna make money.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
It'll make a ton of motherfucking marsh Get it mean,
Mac's bigger valid Jim at the drama is bags on
bags on, bags on.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Bag get ship up. His algorithm is a little nah.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
His ship lit, he been lit, He been lit. Yo, Chill, chill,
I'm outside. He lit on the algorithms though, that's smoke
over there. I said, look, what would you thought? Brow
and the loop your hell?
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah? They loopy right now? Loopy motherfusser bro listen, yr
niggas is yall niggas. Look, I just want to say
to you before you say.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I'm gonna let you say what you say, but I
just want to say, welcome home from one real one
to another, from a fans to a nigga that I like.
Don't stop, continue to put pressure, stay on niggas next
my nigga, and keep the wave going because you keep
inspiring my g we the same age.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
But to me, nigga, you got ten years of youthful
worried out by you got anything to say before we
get up out of there. Listen, I got no power
with me and Bro going back in the lab. That's right.
(27:22):
But his ship gotta be up.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Because my ship is next level. I'm in the matrix.
So for you to get in the laugh with a
nigga like me, you got to be here.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I'm here. It's just that simple. I believe a nigga.
I ain't gonna cat. I ain't gonna cat. Gym is
nice now, hold on, he nice now.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
So look yall, Oh y'all want to see Jim and
Max big veil y'all. Motherfucker's make y'all, motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Make it make sense. Put the bag on the table,
put the off of a millions of dollars. You heard.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Come on, listen in Gym. I'm kicking the door with you,
and they say they got it, don't worry call me.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I'm coming. You know, we rid yo. Now. We don't
want them on no verses, no what we want, what
you want.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I'm a nigga who buried the hatchet with niggas that
I have problems with and if we're gonna leave the
youth the right way, we gotta show them the right way.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Nigga want to do versus wouldn't be though. You don't
want to do that, yo.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
You don't want to do verses with the big valve
cause when it comes Saul, nobody could fuck with me.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Just call this what it is.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You don't want to do a versions, yo, listen, but
we could go in the lab and make history, yo,
but just make it make sense.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Swiss high at me. You know what I mean. You
need a promoter. High at me.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I've got on both sides. I ain't swizzle, yo, lay
Swiss talk to me, baby. I don't want no beat
this time. Max b Jimmy the city on a bird
game two point oh oh my Jesus, and I need
the money and shout out the homie gym, shout out
(29:12):
the whole bird gang.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Dip set man.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Y'all niggas created a wave in forever historic and Max,
you continue to keep making history and telling your story.
Like I said, my nigga, continue to keep winning. You
don't stop baby for life. I appreciate him out here.
Solid Yeah, yeah, I'm not growing up a little man,
(29:38):
I'm on my veggie dying Baby. I'm on my veggie
diy Yo, cheech we outside Max. I need a drop
from you. Just need rock solid baby.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yo, it's your boy, Max bigg A Veil. Shout to
my nigga Bleaked. This is rock solid. We just pulled
up Max bigg A Veil Man Bleak the legend we
were out shy Rocky dollar baby, million out of baby
coming Monday. Beg for your fucking.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Buck, million dollars on the neck, million dollars on the rents.
Nigga fuck niggas. Work for more podcasts from iHeart Radio,
visit iHeartRadio, app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to
your favorite shows at and you can follow me on
any social media platform under the name Memphis Bleach.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
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