November 25, 2025 • 41 mins
Drink Champs Network Presents: ROC Solid with Memphis Bleek.
This week on ROC Solid, we tappin’ in with none other than Omillio Sparks — Stepping into the studio and bringing that classic Philly energy that fans have been waiting for. Omillio is known for his iconic run with State Property and unforgettable appearances on Roc-A-Fella’s golden era records, Sparks opens up in a raw, unfiltered conversation that reminds listeners why his voice still matters in hip hop culture.
From the early grind in North Philly to navigating the wild momentum of the State Property movement, he shares the stories behind the records, the tours, and the brotherhood that shaped an entire era.
Sparks dives deep into life after the Roc, discussing the lessons learned, the growth, and the resilience that kept him grounded through industry twists and personal challenges. He breaks down his creative process, the politics behind certain moments, and how he continues to contribute to the culture on his own terms. With candid gems, untold memories, and genuine humor, Sparks brings both nostalgia and insight, making this episode one of the most authentic yet.
Whether you’re a fan of the classic Philly sound or love hearing the inside game from a true Roc veteran, this episode of Roc Solid is a must-listen.
Tap in - history’s being told by the ones who lived it.
This is ROC Solid. 💎 💯
Follow:
ROC Solid
https://www.instagram.com/roc.solidpodcast
Memphis Bleek
https://www.instagram.com/memphisbleek
https://www.twitter.com/rocsolidpodcast
Drink Champs
https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps
https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps
https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
What up, y'all. This is your main man, Memphis Bleak
right here. Welcome to Rock Solid her production of iHeart
Radio and the Black Effect Network in partnership with my
guys over at Drink Champs Big with the year Memphis.
I'm back, Addy, niggas. Notice the difference, just pressy Stones. Yeah,
(00:21):
y'all you know what it is. Back with another one,
rock Solid And like I tell you, every time you
see anybody on this platform, I mean a he my
brother two a rock solid man. This is my guy
Sparks in the building. You know what I'm saying. I
want to welcome Zoo to the building. We call them
Joey Zuzu, you know him from Old Skino and Sparks
(00:43):
shout out all out there doing his thing. How you bet?
My brother Ry Yeah, yeah, Ryan, he just you know
I do.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm helping the communities right now with the Million Sparts Foundation,
and I've just been out just doing that, working on
writing my own TV series two baby Boy, the series.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's the hole.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'm just running around doing that constant. Oh my bad,
they turn this around. Got my own little clothesline. Your
boy being creator kept me alive, you know, that's what
kept me around. I've been just pushing that and pumping that,
staying out the way. It's just focusing on my next move.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
That's what something. Congratulations on everything you've been doing with
your foundation, on seeing you out there, you know, doing
not getting the thing to the community with the kids.
That's so dope. Now come ind you, but we're gonna
go back, man, Let's go back. That's my dude, Joey
Zoo Zoo. That's Rockefeller. I want to say to you
here now live camera. So the world, no yo, bro
(01:42):
to me on Rockefeller, it's dope spinners, there's dope rappers.
We had. It's the best punchline, the best flower to me.
You always had the best lines, like in your rhymes.
The way I used to sit there and be like
the fuck nigga running around playing and all day high.
Then he getting that boost and it's like like the
(02:04):
line I told you outside, bro, before we started, you.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Said, tell ustle line, tell us of us.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
That's my favorite verse from everybody on Rockefeller. When you say,
what do you say to a mom who lost her
only son to the game and the gun? Right, it's
sapt Bama I'm a ride for him, right yo.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
My g come on, man, and you know it's wild
about it. That's where that's funny you say that. That's
why I got to the minute, because them still some
kind of storyline still exists to this day. Now you
look at Philadelphia, what's going on in the media. I
hate looking at it, but you know, I gotta be
on there and the pump and do that stuff. That's
why my own foundation phase. But it's kids that's really
going through that right now. Yeah, you're going through it.
I see people coming through and they got the uh
(02:40):
they set up shop and the guys are talking about
the pain that they going through and they cry and
so that stuff's still going on to this day. So
that's what's happening to us when.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
We's thirteen fourteen, So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So when we where we at right now, we transitioned
into from boys to men. So now we you know,
I felt like we had our obligation to come back
at least try to save something. Help.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
That's right, man, And niggas know a lot of people,
you know, the word on the internet is that Jay
stole it from you. They don't know that you actually
was in the studio and created the record together, right,
you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I mean it was one of the things we you know,
we did. I lend my pemouship to like. But that's
the big homie. It's still anything you know.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I'm right, yo, man. It was in the video we
tour together.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
We brotel Is when you just went somewhere you got
the joint.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
You did it, and it was like and you ain't
got no credit on the record, Like you still got
your rights credit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It's one of the things and it's.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Sad features how you steal something and I put your
name right that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Because it's my voice and everything on it. So it
still looked out.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So I was that man, that session I wasn't there
for that wasn't there. I wasn't there for that session.
What's doing the dynasty? You probably? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And I think we was in uh he was working
on the UH and he was in the eight room
and I was in the b room working on the
Owen Sparks album and I was doing give It to
Me record and Uh. Then Mac come over there, and
Mac like what's going on there? What you're doing.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I'm like, I'm grinding you do.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
So we had the hook you go tell whole hole hair.
I was like, oh damn, like this joint. And I
was like, all right, well, you know we're working on
the dicey.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I'ma be on it anyway, let me get it, let's go.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I was a team player on that one, you know
what I'm saying. So at the end of the day,
we did the record with Forrel, which is the biggest,
one of the biggest producers in the industry, and and
the rest is history.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
That's that, man, That's that's crazy. Man, Like I never
got to work with Forrell. Just right there on the spot,
I had a nor he gave me just like, there's
that your chick. I don't take that as me working
with Timbo. I got you. I was just hum bleak
put some verses on. You know what I'm saying. You
know what I'm saying. I want to sit there and work
with these guys. You got a chance to do that
(04:54):
with one of the games and that night. That's special,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
And that's that's you know, from our standpoint at that time,
I didn't realize how a bunch of huge impact of
this like on on on that side of things, because
those are huge names. You know, we taking up in
the big home like for them, a big, huge name
that we were young. So you know, we didn't know that.
You know, it's a verity, but that's the books.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
That's one thing I say, you don't know. You make
your history while you're doing you're doing it. You're just
going you know what I'm saying. And that's how we
did it. So I did the relationship with you and
Beans start for you to even become a part of
state property.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I mean he was there, he was already there.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, Beans was already.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So I met them through through Black Friday, I think.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, mister piece real role. Yeah, I mean Black Friday.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Black That's how we met. So so Mac was over
there already and then that happened. And I think the uh,
like the movie when we did stay Prop was like
my twin.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Everybody like this twin.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You guys looking like you know, so I'm like, damn,
you wouldn't say we like, you know, what's crazy?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Like the record?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You got what you think of that?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
What you think I used to be running through the
city didn't have a listen that what you think, so listen.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So when we did that, So we built a relationship on.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
That though outside I just had to tell you that
outside of that, because we was on that set in
Jersey City for a long time. Then we details of
a hustler, so that took to the public. That took
to the public like crazy. So and then we just
grew a relationship. It was up and down. You know,
It's one of them things that was rocky, you know
what I'm saying. But we got to know each other
because you know, we're from different sizes.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, he's from South he's from a lot of people
don't know, you know, Philly. It might seem small, but
that ship is.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Second just like geograph stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Was like, but I got there.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I wanted some money. I was thinking, like, Yo, let's
get the money.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That's right, You've always been there, like like thinking, you know,
forward thinking, like out of the crew. Like I was
talking about that outside, I was like, damn a save
it for the part because you know, a lot of
people want to know how we felt during the breakup
and the line, and I was gonna say out of
everybody that I used to tell yo, bro, this ship Yo,
you're wild, and this ship might be going down. You
(07:06):
was the only one who used to be like em
for real, nah em this shit they bugget. We gotta
get the big homies together. Like anybody else used to
just look at me be like whatever, I'm getting money.
I don't give a fuck what they do. But you
was definitely focused, like and we can't let this ship go,
my niggah. It hurt me.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Word out hurt me because I felt a part of something,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Who you said?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
It was like, ah, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
It happen. Then when we did that for the Dynance,
it was.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Just I didn't participate in.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
That, Yeah, And I felt that, like damn.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
It was like no, because when I wrote the script,
I'm like, you're making a movie up there, and then
what's actually happening now, It's like, wow, I can't be
a part of that. But I want to tell you too.
Going back to State Property, you was the best actor
in State Property. Like Beans did his thing, but you
bought beans character to life. You made the movie what
(08:00):
it was. You was that guy man.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, because I had to, you know, they gave me
my part. They gave me that part I had. The
first we was getting news like if you you coming
from the Red World, you better not be playing.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
You're gonna take this.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So I took it serious.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But uh, thank you people, because I got two thumbs
up from even Rupert.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I was like, well, yeah, man, I'm telling you, you
did your thing in part one and part two. So
I was one day. Did you ever try to, like
audition for any other roles after Stay Property anything more serious?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I did, But you know what it was, it was indy.
You know what I had to learn about business. Sometimes
you could do indie stuff, you know what I'm saying,
But it's union stuff out here too. So it's business this, this, this,
the politics and certain things. It's just totally different, you
know what I'm saying. So with the breakup, because like
with even with that movie, if I knew that really
was going, I wasn't participating that. I knew it was
(08:53):
you was up to, but I couldn't my own going
through the little other stuff. But at the end of
the day, with the as far as the movies and stuff,
a lot of rolls came up. But it was just
like in the stuff instead of more cause I'm sagging
union too. You know what I'm saying, right when they
coming that way talking to some super you know, some
super numbers. But I had to live and learn, you
(09:13):
know what I'm saying. I just wanted to stack my
resume up. That's right, man, It's never too old for acting.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Man. I see you be out there in l A
doing your thing. Man, they definitely need to throw my
guy those roles. You want to see that action. Check
out State property man. Everybody else in there was freestyling.
I felt like when I did scenes with you Zoo,
it was like this motherfucker. Really, I used to be
saying that in my mind, like I'm over capping on camera,
(09:40):
Like motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You know what it is. I gotta go and get
a like an agent or something. I try to manage
my own life, and then people be in my life.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'm always going through a crisis.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I always got some family crisis going and I'm going
through it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Then that that's where the business goes wrong. That's what's yes, bro,
trust me, I know you know I've been through it
with my brother and all of that. You know, shout
out dre out here making moves right, yeah, man, suld
definitely get real when the family issues come up and
definitely deter you from your track. How did you ever
(10:14):
feel that you went, oh, never got a chance to
drop the album?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Man, Like it was crazy because we was the first
one there understood the circumstances. But I think we could have.
Everything happened fast though. This is what I learned about
the business. The money is coming in, you know, so
so with us, it was one of the things like
once whole say this is your summer, you gotta buckle down.
I know, I know I was a few as the
wild card, but you've been nice to sleep in the
(10:38):
studio and.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Go get dressed, y'all come back. I got a whole album.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
So that's why it's important for me to tell my side,
you know what I'm saying, Because it'd be like you
see a lot of stuff you turn on the TV,
and it'd be like, hey, those guys are telling my story.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You know the money from it.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I said, call the guy, man, we gotta make some
moves and make some money because the guys are actually
making the money off telling my story. And I and
I'm like, whoa something gotta give? That's right, and why
you'd be like enough is enough?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That's right, man, Like they definitely tried to paint it
out like you was the lazy guy in.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
The cool I'm KIDM Johnson, y'all k dot Johnson in
the records. By the way, thanks sold for the look.
I'm on the joint, gave my credits.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's right. Like you was always on time interview studio,
little Anna Edges. But we all was young, bro, it
was young.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
You know what I'm saying having some money, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
And that you don't having money. They throwing money at you, jewelry,
tore the girls on you, ass Like what you expect
me to do? I gotta crash out somewhere, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Said, you know what, that's why I'm back. I want
I want.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
To get it off man. That's right. What's your what's
your relationship with oh? Now? Man?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Well, I did try to reach out to him chop
it up with about things, and I just can't reach
back out to him and let him know you know
how he felt, how he felt because I know how
he felt about a few things. And a few other
guys reached out, you know, they ain't reached out to me.
I actually had him down at the foundation. But they
was running around doing anything with the movies thing, and
I was doing that, so you know, I was busy
(12:16):
doing that.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And that's all to be. I'm in traffic, was rolling
with damn hard like y'all. Was like Dane definitely took
part of state property a lot like y'all.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Because I know they worked in the mac whatever they
worked out, I know that was and I guess that
was his baby and his project. And then we had dipse.
We had a lot of divisions over there. We had
get load dip set. Then you got it was a
lot going on. We had MP Twister came up, so
we had folks over there.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
We had squat over there.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Joe Buddens was there for a minute and he was
in the photo shoot with us. I think.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Maybe I'm wrong, Joe, don't take this as a distant
give me five minutes of slaughter on the show. I
wasn't at that show, baby, at that shoot.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But when I'm looking at but I was looking at
the book, remember the rock book we had, And I
thought I saw him in the photo shooting.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
No, he was in the car photos. I just never
was there. But Joe was always my dog. I used
to see him around just being with Clue in them.
You know what I'm saying. That's right Clue. Yes, you
know Clue was down on the team. Yeah, Clue, Clube,
Duck and the Smoke. I've been trying to get Flu
up here.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You don't want to talk. Don't want to talk.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Duck and the smoke. Clue ain't gonna bring up tour days.
We ain't gonna bring.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
That to get over whatever we went through, it's over, guys.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You know we had a weird showing people at the time.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
We're going through things and trying to express ourselves.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know, we had to get through these things. The
toys was crazy. You had to be built for them.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Y'all started fast from the backstage, but it was a
wild thing.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You came around that rock the mic. Yo, Zoo used
to be going crazy Zoo. You're going Zoo, room Ship
be a movie. It was like Zoo. What you got
like I got them all from Randy Whatever you had
had fun.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Fun Yo.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Do you feel like you missed out on any opportunity
that you feel like you should have took more advantage of, Like.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You know, far As film, the music, the music that
I'm not tripping. I always got good records to put
and plus plus the internet, you could just because not
too long ago, I did an independent project and I
flooded it. It was just one of the things. It
wasn't the same as being.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
With the game. Yeah, I was looking.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I was going over some stuff that they do on
my paperwork with some emails and stuff like that, and
they were talking about it was computer savvy, but I
remember doing things on paperwork. That's right, you know what
I'm saying, The kite and that, that kind of stuff.
So it was one of them things like it's different.
You know, I can adapt, but I got kids, you
know what I'm saying. So they the ones that and Daddy,
you know, that's the problem people trying to undermine something
(14:49):
because that's what we at and that's what we got
generations for.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
And that's who see it. They see it. They the
ones who come back to you, Daddy, Why is this
person saying this? Daddy? Why did this person do that?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, because at that part, with all the stuff going on,
they say, Hey, but that's what's crazy about it, because
that's why I had to get myself right, because they're
paying attention anything else. When I was wild, they was
put up.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
That's right. Yeah, they was babies. But now they're older.
They definitely because my son beyond me, Daddy, Why this
person say this?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, they spun, they watch it. So you got to
conduct yourself in a decent manner.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Like the Rock and Feller break up was one thing,
but the state property breakup was another. Man he felt
about that.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Well, well, state, it was already a groups in sections already,
you know what I'm saying. So I felt like I
felt like when when you start something, you ever start
something and then they don't get finished.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I hated it, you.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Know, I hate it. But somebody start something. I want
to finish.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
So y'all started, I like to finish. So that's where
I come from.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
So at the end of the day, it was like
one of the bittersweet things, and I was like, hey,
that's like a record, I really yeah, yeah, yeah, everything
go back to the writing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
When we didn't right, that's right, man, Definitely like growing
up in Philly, man, Like we was talking outside. You know,
Philly is east west, No, it ain't no east, it's
south west North. German Town Southwest fish Town Town, Yeah,
uptown Southwest. I ran through. I remember when I first
met my wife. I was driving through Philly and she
(16:17):
was like, which way do you came, And I'm telling
her the streets I came down and she like, yeah,
you rolled up down bottom and I'm like, what's that.
She's like, that's one of the most gangster blocks in Philly.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I'm like, yo, you lying right, that's I'm from out
west to bottom. Man.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
It's on the news the murder and everyone down there.
I think I gave it to him on State probably
want member till Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I was explaining the guys what was going on down
there and then yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Man, like I wasn't growing up in Philly. Like when
you feel like, out of all the Philly spinners, you
made your mouth, do you feel like you put your
employ I love my Mark.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I love my Mark because it can't be like duper kids.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
That's right, it's like one of them things they still trying.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
That's even feeling everybody's pissed, hey, because hey.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Man, this is different.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
You know what's going on?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So with my Mark, because you remember when that started,
it was the flows was different.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Remember had that float.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I just straighted my own lane.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
That's right, I love it always was the different one
out of the rock. But that got like the most love.
When we touched the stage, like Zoo, come on stage,
the motherfuckers would go crazy. You'll be like, yo, this
nigga wrote this verse five o'clock in the morning, half sleep.
We was in there all the night trying to do this.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Ship because because we're coming from a place where if
the underdog or something else, because be the guy that
kicking and beating us up, they're doing they doing us filthy.
You know how many people world wid that's happening to.
So even if I'm in my element, that's my zone,
and and and we put it out, you know it's
gonna make something.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
That's a fact. Zoo, that's a fact man. Like man,
I missed the tour days, the studio days. Man, we
we had some hell of a fucking times.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Now it was my fucking guys. I steal my bros.
To this day. I hate to see where all of
us is at that like, you know, at the end
of the day, you know, beans, we got our differences.
I haven't spoke the sequel yet.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
You and Bean still I've seen from time to time
when we don't even really talk. I try to go
past this truck and.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Hang down.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Wanted to grab something and it was closed. But it's
crazy because they see all that, but we don't see
each other. That's why the bisness look crazy. So so
that's really what it is, you know what I'm saying.
It's like and that's cool. That's why I did my
own thing independent, you know what I'm saying. I could
sell my own stuff trademark patner, you know what I'm saying.
But twisted, I know that I'm still a brand. I
come from a major situation, that's right.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, Like you said, the heartbeat, you know what I'm saying.
You was the heartbeat of State problem bro, like the
rock like all of us, bro, Like you definitely held
it down for the crew. Like used to be bombing
on niggas yo, y'all bullshit, that's get to work, that's
go to the studio. Fuck these bitches yoat niggas playing
(19:04):
fuck this ship. Man, we ain't gonna have this ship forever.
Like you was definitely on that vibe.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
If they give them that drive, that motivation work. You
know what I'm saying, come on, guys, because I felt
I lift like we now, we don't know how long
we're gonna be here, That's right. So I lived like that,
and and and the catalog shows you know what I'm saying.
So when everybody trying to pick on me and show
me that kind of leg away in the rent, I'm like, I.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Get it, but where you at?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That's right, you see what I'm saying. So that's that
part with that. So the State prop breakup, it's just
one of them things. I feel like with the game
they supposed to. You know, we s could have set
at the table because what happens is if people still
bringing it up, we're still in that hundred, that hundred
top hundred jones of like fourteen fifteen because we part
of rock didn't get around it. So if it's still moves.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
To make and everybody looks selfish, look crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
They look crazy, bro. And you know, I don't want
to bring up conversations, but I was just talking to
certain people. You know, free, my bro, I talk you
free every day, right, you know what I mean? Crack
hit me the other day and crack like yo league,
this ship going on. I don't want to be a
part of this. I can imagine it. I can imagine,
like yo, crack, what's going on.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
But my thing is where I'm coming at, because if
somebody asks for y'all, that's what I told them to
where so my thing with me it'd be like where
we got a problem at because somebody bringing up all
crap about some other stuff that watered that's under the
bridges water of the bridge. And if we're arguing about
things that we shouldn't be arguing about, that's a little
bit crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
To come on, bro, we can't all your about starting
that happened twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
But here we're grown, like everybody knew family that's insane.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
These are things that left.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
To make you get thick skin and so they make
you wise.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And then the guy that passed down the book to
him and say, look this how you move if you're
a parent of any all over ship twenty years ago
is insane, Like that ship is whack. Like Crack definitely
was like bleak, I ain't fucking with nothing. I'm cool,
I'm laying low up with the kids. I don't want
nothing to do with nothing. I get it, like, but
I definitely got to have a conversation with Beans, right.
(20:59):
I definitely got to to the to see.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
It makes sense, you know, because y'all was gang like.
Y'all was the two that you know what I'm saying,
that was there before. So at the end of the day,
that's a situation and you you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And you was like to him, how I am the
whole you was to beings like you was there? You
know that me and Beans we put in a lot
of work to brow togain on camera and just slid
like be like yo. I think Jay helped Bleak with
all his raps like oh no, no, no that I
was like.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I heard somebody stuff was talking about they get back
to me and they be trying to pull me into
them conversations like what it's like.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
My nigga all them nights in the studio, squad like
come on, came in there and said, who hold, don't
even talk like that, Just come.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
On, God, let's just get to the.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, man, like what's going on? I think the Gang
becoming ship fucked up a lot of things with us
because we was before this and a lot of people
don't know that when when you when you do something
on the net. This shit last forever. There is go
back in it. There is no go back. The only
(22:07):
thing you can do, like we said outside, if the
disrespect is loud, the apology gotta be just as loud's.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
That's what I said.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Because I went back and looked at some of the
clips and stuff like that, and I realized, Okay, we
can't hide these things. We can't do this and all
that kind of stuff because I am in the public.
And when I realized that that, you know, somebody somewhere
was trying to pull my jacket somewhere and I couldn't
understand it. I didn't get the men, I ain't get
the memo, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
So I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But at the end of the day that when you're
putting it out there, it looked great. So what public
apology has to be made before we can do any
business because phone calls are coming through. But a public
apology before we get the money. Then we can get
to the money.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
If we're going to be publicly, because that's what.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Wrong right anyway, and that's what you see. So at
the end of the day, it's one of them things
because a lot of stuff goes wrong with is somebody
else's situation and you're trying to mirror it.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
So you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
And I was always happy for my dogs. Man, you
was the movie guy. You did State Property one two,
Death of a Dynasty, and I believe you did Paper
Soldiers too. I get to do that when y'all had
no They only put me on one clip. Put me
on one clip, and I ain't even want to do that.
I ain't even want to do that one. I was
(23:18):
like no, because I knew what was going down. Man,
And I'm like, niggas pulling me on both sides of
the crew. It is like, naw, I'm staying on one side. Yo.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I'm one hundred percent believe in that. I serve two masters. No,
that's your mind.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You going crazy, And that's what do you feel like?
State Property? Like a lot of y'all win the split
hap been went with that.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Now, I ain't went with nobody that said the split
sheet came. You know what I'm saying, because you remember
I went home and did my payback out so so
so if he doesn't have that's catch.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah. Yeah, it was the first.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
My own million entertainment my.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Ship went the first one to drop it. Yeah, yeah,
I win did my own thing.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I was like, I'm just you know what I mean,
just go through my thing because there was a lot
of friction going on and that's what I was on anyway,
and then you see me, if you saw me, it
was like, all right, I was still bust move because
y'all taught me a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
You know what I'm saying. I learned a lot of
top So.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I'm like, yo, I'm applying.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Y'all can see it.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
If y'all you know what I mean. If not, then
you can't say. I ain't give it a whirl.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
But at the end of day, that's why I did
my own independent album.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Like You definitely wasn't the non drama one. Like when
it came to business, I feel like you was the
non drama one, right, But when it came down there, Yo,
it's lively.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Called rights my fucking god, because I know he like zoom,
he locked out, he knocked out, You got him security
of the room breaking.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You ain't waking up. You know that nigga was drinking drunk,
a whole bottle of him to see last night, this
nigga was going crazy yeah, yo, yeah, it was a
rock star. You was rather a fellow rock star.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Jesus kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
You know, by the part of my life. God, that
was a part of my life.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
What do you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I thank god. Sometimes I say we should have had
social media, But for those nights, I thank god was
did yeah missed? If you understand, if you knew how
that was going, Yo, the Knights in Miami, Like I
remember when we went on the we went on the
(25:26):
tour and we got to stop in Miami and fucking
this is this is you probably don't even remember this.
This is when Bobby Dash was there. We was promoting, promoting.
It's when y'all was promoting the State Property album and
we was on a little run for that was on
tour at the same time, all right, And remember we
got to Miami and Bobby was like, Yo, I got
(25:48):
to do a party with some you know, some vps,
you know, some radio people or whatever. And then we
was like what kind of party you're doing. He's like, yeah,
I'm gonna get some strippers over there in the hotel.
So remember we crashed the party. The djob like turn
in the hen sweating like he used to hate us.
(26:13):
Rest go and y'all used to be the driver. Y'all
used to be all going. I remember we was in
the van rest of Beast going, Yo, we in the vans,
me you freeway, Beans, b I murder all of us
in the van that he was dropping us in New York.
This was New Year's Eve and Beans was like, they'll
(26:36):
bleak this nigga, don't get us back to Philly before
the ball drop is on. That nigga zoo like, Yo bleak.
Tell Beans, chill out. Tell us a nigga chill. It
might be traffic bleak. It's they used to be just
tripping some time. You know, I like, Yo, cool out, Matt.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
You know what I'm saying, Tell you just chill, Matt, chill.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Any times you and Mac did any road shows when
you had to call mackdown because Max from zero to
a hundred.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Twenty nights, plenty nights, even with that show when he's
out of North Carolina being whole and macnum, I wasn't
there that one. Yeah, I had the follow, Yo, Mac,
what is you doing? But you know, a lot of
them times, That's what I'm saying. A lot of nights
that people they're talking about the separation. You know that
truck all us getting tagged.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's what I've be looking at.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
That's how I used to my my, my whole outlook
with it. That's where I used to be on my joint.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
He never knew you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
But we used to have them ratties on the road.
I know you used to bring them raties were not
slipping on that road.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Three buddy had the A B seat buss.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Remember yo, the sea bus was rik his island right,
it was right was up the alley that you was
be saying that, like the all number A bus caught
on fire. Yeah, I remember what was they got it? No, No,
that was used to my own.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
That was back stage, y'all joint. No somewhere else we went.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
No, we was We was with Free Member Freeway had
the Ikey Muslim. The Muslim brother was its manager on
the tall and he was like, Yo, that's his name,
shout out nigga, Like Yo, the bus on fire, get away.
It's about the bloom. You don't remember that everybody luggage
burnt up, But that would be would be what that
(28:13):
was rocked. The mic that was rocked. The mic tour
my nigga, remember Sabin, it wasn't around.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
No no, because the Free had changing for yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Free had like eight man. He was trying get it right.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
You know what it was was my God pies to God.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah just say yeah some medical problems.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
No way, man, Damn, I hope we get better, man,
God blessed man that nigga used to be on tour
with us, chefing up on the bus. Nigga. Sure we
ate God to come through with that food like we
lived for sure. Like, Yo, is it anybody from Rockefeller?
Because you had a lot of different relationships with different people,
(28:56):
Like is it anybody you feel like? Damn man, I
wish we had more time to really lock in and
put that work in at Rock.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, like all us like remember like me and you
never got try to chop it up all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Because you was running. Man, he was running. That's why Zoo,
That's why we never got to make a record Zoom sleep,
I come into stoop because everybody used to work in
the morning.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Was yeah, like damn, never really chances. That's why I
used to always just do the records. You know what
I'm saying, Like, Damn that I never catch up with you.
There wasn't no too many because you know, we were
stay proud. I got to kick it with Home and
bigs and so it was too you know the rest
of us that just take care of us, you know
what I'm saying. Other than that, that's it because we
never got the chance to give a bust the kind
of moves like that.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, that's that's that's crazy, right. We never did a
record together because I was an early morning studio nigga.
That's why the Beans and Bleak album didn't work, because
y'all niggas was live rats middle of the night, one
the five, six in the morning. Me, I'm nine to
twelve in the afternoon and I'm back in the street.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
You was on it, yeah, and I I was like
my daytime activities. You know, even I'm exhausted. I said, oh,
let me just get this off my check.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
But you was on it.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
That's all it was.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
But day and night sometime go together.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yep. No, we was chasing. I was. I was out
there in the morning. I was definitely chasing in the streets.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I'm like that, now, let's get it there early.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I'm very professional now because that's why I turn with
tardiness and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I learned a lot. I tell my son and I
tell everybody man, Like anybody calling this eleven twelve o'clock
and they just getting up. It's like, oh, life is good.
You can sleep this late like niggad. You know the
checks get cut, Yeah in the morning.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
That's what I'm saying, And that's why it's important for
us to get back to the Yeah that's going the
wrong way.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
We got to bring it back to us.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Definitely with us.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Everybody is nobody else can do it but us. You
did gonna come from.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
That's why I started this show. Like Norri was like, yo, Bleak,
shout out Norri too.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
He was like, Bleak, you should get in this space.
You know, you know a lot of shit. You was
cool with everybody from Rockefeller, so you like the only
guy that everybody really you could bring everybody together and
they're gonna respect the story that which I tell it.
And I was telling him, I'm like, yo, bro, I'm
not on none of that chasing that viceroom moment, right,
(31:10):
I'm not on that. If we're not on here giving
out game and lightening these young niggas giving out some
inspiration or you know, put an idea in somebody's mind
to go further over it. I don't want to be
a partner.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Sh ain't nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
That's what it's about. That. We ain't gonna be out
here doing no whole ship. That's not That's not what
we're about. Man. We ain't kicking nobody, and we definitely
we can talk about the fun nights. Were not gonna
name the name, and I'm gonna be like, yo, I
had Shorty over here, Shorty over you look like a
major limit drive doing that.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
You know what I learned about some of the business
some people.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Some people is just different.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I was just explaining about it's good business and then
you got bad business. You understand.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Definitely the good business feel good. You know that's right,
that's right. You gotta ship ain't doing but you mean me,
your vibe is off and all that. So, so you
know what the firm believer that every dollar is not
a good dollars, right, you know what I mean, money
come from You can take money from good people and
bad people.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I just came from Atlantic City, right, it was like
it was like it went crazy. But the guy had
the whole layout for me. I could have just you know,
it's a difference, you know what I'm saying, that's one
thing if I gotta raise my my pressure up and
all that.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
If I'm gonna say it's one thing I missed from
back in the day. You just bringing up Atlantic City.
I fucking missed the forty forty in the live, Yo,
that's what fucking that man? Step for what am I doing?
I was supposed to be what was't a problem? Yo?
Whoa The forty forty in Atlantic City was Philly fucking
(32:43):
had that was having what that was heaving for anybody? Yo,
forty forty You know, I'm telling you. You went up there,
it was like across across the table were trimming.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
We had flow and then and that was just starts spot.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That was the spot. The forty forty and fucking Atlantic City. Man,
what a fucking time. Atlantic City is not what it
used to be.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Man, No, it's different. Was going to need more.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I think I think we gotta get back out there.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, man, something got back. They be doing a lot
of concerts now. Everybody be camming out.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
There and it's just out there right.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah. They did they ship yeah at the casino. Yeah
something I know, shock, throw a bag out there. Okay,
he redeveloped right now, it's a good time to invest
in Atlantic City. Yeah, some big ship, big big, big,
big moves happening.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, niggas got some bread to.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Play with, ana, because we need that good business back,
that's right, and because if you give it to bad business,
the world starts to cross.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Oh yo, it's a lot of That's when I woke.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Up, and that's what I say. I got to call
him that the world's falling apart, looking at the world's falling.
What's going on here? Update me, Update me on everything, man.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
And one thing too, my platform, bro, like all of
us as brothers, but watching my dogs crash out. But
I'm yeah, no, y'all see you. That's why you you
always been who you are. You sparks, You the life
of the party, you have your fun time. You're a businessman,
your family man. You're an entrepreneur, you're an activist. Now
(34:22):
your fucking movie star like a fucking rapper, entrepreneur, you're
doing business like come on, bro, they need to.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Know this ship and that's what that's why you got
to be on the right platform. That's right, because the
crash out of somebody that you actually you feel like
you care and you love for, that's not your homie,
that's the street. Like I've been in the hood, I've
seen guys at say I love you and love you
that ain't love.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
No, I don't do that. I come.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I know about it.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
So you know, I'm gonna treat it just like it's
one of mine. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
The fact that's how I move. So, yo, what's next
for zoo man? What's the next move?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I want to do someone, I want to do something
of course, film, you know, and I've been writing. Of course,
I've been writing, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
And I.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Just shot another movie and accompliss accomplish and that was
a sag joint. So you know, I'm trying to get
my feetbackack. And there I ran into a few guys
and it was like things that just really got to
get rectified on the business end, because it's it's business.
It's unfinished business that nobody's talking about, acting like it
doesn't exist, and it's it's and it shows up.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
So that's why I was talking to the guys. It's
not that you ain't gonta worry about me on that.
And you see what I'm saying, And that's what the
problem is. And then we just gotta be able to
talk and hash things out and and say, hey, man.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I was I was out of order at that for that.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
That's right, I was wrong, and all.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Right, now we can move forward because that part of
it ain't always about that money.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Like you said, it's respect level too.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Who you feel like you want to have this conversations
with that's upt.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Some of the guys and the gang. You know what
I'm saying, Oh free who else? Who else need to
have this conversation? Uh?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Dame?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
You know what I'm saying, Dame for for sure. Uh
all those guys.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
So at the end of the day, they owe you that,
you know, they owe you that.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Everybody. So it's like me and Big Homer, we catch up,
you know what I'm saying, because that's my big dog.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
But you know I would love to.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
See Big Homie just to say what up? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, but you you you said you wanted to have
a conversation, like certain things need to be rectified, like
that ship. If it's something need to be rectified with
a whole week, let's pull.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Up right right right, But yeah, that's but that's what
he did for me.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I'm fucking yeah. So it's like I like the business,
so it's like hey man, you know, hey, how you doing?
That's right? Yeah? Right? But definitely like all the brosnah
free oh Dame right, niggas should never be a time
that you feel like you need to have a conbo
and you can't have a convo with the bros. Niggas
gott to pick up the phone. I heard. I've seen
(36:54):
Dame say a kind say something that you know a
lot of people wasn't picking up the phone for him.
Only person picked up the phone was bleak. And same
thing with Oschino oh going through what he going through,
the gods going what they going through. But niggas know
when they hit bleak line bleak like this, you know
what I mean? And that's what everybody because I feel
like if niggas got anything they want to get off
(37:16):
their chest. To me, I'm a man first, man. All
that other shit is secondary. Man, Like we're gonna holler
because at one point in my life, I consider all
your niggas my brothers. Like that came from my mother.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
See yeah, you hear it.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
You know what I mean. The spirits is selling them.
You gotta.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
But that's all it is, and that's what it is
with us, you know what I'm saying. And that's the problem. Yeah, man,
this is we, like you said, nobody robbing nobody. Man,
So if I have put that crap, yo, you ran
the native trying to chase the dag.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
That's that was my conversation. You know. I had that
talk when I had to sit down before with Cam.
I'm like your Cam or some g ship, if you
really put down what we went through in this business, right,
nobody got slapped, nobody got shot, nobody died, nobody kicked nobody,
nobody dog, nobody kid got slapped. So you know what happened.
We just had an argument over beats right right. It
(38:12):
was like, you know, I ain't never think about it
like that, right.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Because like Nigga's like business.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
It's like we know people on top and we know
what we're doing, but it's like we all instrumental in it.
And that's all we wanted to be recognized for who
we are getting off fishing, that's.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Right, man. And you, like I said, Zoo, you're a
major part of the Rockefeller You're a major part to
your community and my life doing yeah, man, all of
all of my life. So that was that's another part.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
So that's what they going wrong with me because it's
gonna always be a serious situation because I took a
tax because when I'm running around telling God, hey, y'all
playing with it. It changed my life.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
It taged everything, It tast my whole world, helped me
feed my kids, pick me up.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
One thing I would say to you, saying, you writing
like a lot of shows, a lot of movies, should
you should you should write a movie about your life.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
That's what baby Boy really about.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Man. I'm gonna ask because you've been doing a lot
saying a lot. You've been around a lot like you
know you you make legendary moves, man, And that's what
this show is about because everybody.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Get it done without the team.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
We hear, bro.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
That started with us and all bro you calling me
from different places and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
You see you hit my line. Bro, I'm whatever zoom like,
I'm always on deck. So anything you need from me,
my team we here. We got you, bro.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
That's what let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Let's get to it. Then right here, let's get to
I need my.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Got new warehouses.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Listen and we folk. Let it be know. I got
say at your don't you got our own customer service.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Let's get into the business.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Man, I got you zoom man, anything man, anything anytime
you ever want to come, you know, if you got
anything to promote anything you any word you feel like
niggas ain't understanding. You want to get your word off.
You want to tell about your community, giveaways, your activision
like your movie, drop anything, bro. My platform is your platform.
My house is your house. You're my brother and I
(40:12):
love you for life. You know that, my nigga zoom man,
you know what it is? Tell them man, where they
can find you at.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Zoom You can find me at rock Salid Hollow. That's
right when I'm at.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
No man, it's so shoes my Yeah, you ain't none
of that plug now.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
But the real Millio Sparks on Instagram, y'all. A Million
Sparks Foundation dot org is the website. You can google
it do all that kind of stuff. And of course
I'm on Facebook, Twitter and all that kind of stuff
and Million Sparks and that's where you.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Can find me. At It's right, a million sparks, the
young gun. You know what it is, man, It's rock Solidland.
Do say my fear. That's right, my fucking outside nigga, Rockland,
forever life nigga. Yeah. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit
(41:04):
iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your
favorite shows app, and you can follow me on any
social media platform under the name Memphis Bleach. You see
anybody fraud in flagging
What up, y'all. This is your main man, Memphis Bleak
right here. Welcome to Rock Solid her production of iHeart
Radio and the Black Effect Network in partnership with my
guys over at Drink Champs Big with the year Memphis.
I'm back, Addy, niggas. Notice the difference, just pressy Stones. Yeah,
(00:21):
y'all you know what it is. Back with another one,
rock Solid And like I tell you, every time you
see anybody on this platform, I mean a he my
brother two a rock solid man. This is my guy
Sparks in the building. You know what I'm saying. I
want to welcome Zoo to the building. We call them
Joey Zuzu, you know him from Old Skino and Sparks
(00:43):
shout out all out there doing his thing. How you bet?
My brother Ry Yeah, yeah, Ryan, he just you know
I do.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm helping the communities right now with the Million Sparts Foundation,
and I've just been out just doing that, working on
writing my own TV series two baby Boy, the series.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's the hole.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'm just running around doing that constant. Oh my bad,
they turn this around. Got my own little clothesline. Your
boy being creator kept me alive, you know, that's what
kept me around. I've been just pushing that and pumping that,
staying out the way. It's just focusing on my next move.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
That's what something. Congratulations on everything you've been doing with
your foundation, on seeing you out there, you know, doing
not getting the thing to the community with the kids.
That's so dope. Now come ind you, but we're gonna
go back, man, Let's go back. That's my dude, Joey
Zoo Zoo. That's Rockefeller. I want to say to you
here now live camera. So the world, no yo, bro
(01:42):
to me on Rockefeller, it's dope spinners, there's dope rappers.
We had. It's the best punchline, the best flower to me.
You always had the best lines, like in your rhymes.
The way I used to sit there and be like
the fuck nigga running around playing and all day high.
Then he getting that boost and it's like like the
(02:04):
line I told you outside, bro, before we started, you.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Said, tell ustle line, tell us of us.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
That's my favorite verse from everybody on Rockefeller. When you say,
what do you say to a mom who lost her
only son to the game and the gun? Right, it's
sapt Bama I'm a ride for him, right yo.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
My g come on, man, and you know it's wild
about it. That's where that's funny you say that. That's
why I got to the minute, because them still some
kind of storyline still exists to this day. Now you
look at Philadelphia, what's going on in the media. I
hate looking at it, but you know, I gotta be
on there and the pump and do that stuff. That's
why my own foundation phase. But it's kids that's really
going through that right now. Yeah, you're going through it.
I see people coming through and they got the uh
(02:40):
they set up shop and the guys are talking about
the pain that they going through and they cry and
so that stuff's still going on to this day. So
that's what's happening to us when.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
We's thirteen fourteen, So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So when we where we at right now, we transitioned
into from boys to men. So now we you know,
I felt like we had our obligation to come back
at least try to save something. Help.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
That's right, man, And niggas know a lot of people,
you know, the word on the internet is that Jay
stole it from you. They don't know that you actually
was in the studio and created the record together, right,
you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I mean it was one of the things we you know,
we did. I lend my pemouship to like. But that's
the big homie. It's still anything you know.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I'm right, yo, man. It was in the video we
tour together.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
We brotel Is when you just went somewhere you got
the joint.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
You did it, and it was like and you ain't
got no credit on the record, Like you still got
your rights credit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It's one of the things and it's.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Sad features how you steal something and I put your
name right that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Because it's my voice and everything on it. So it
still looked out.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So I was that man, that session I wasn't there
for that wasn't there. I wasn't there for that session.
What's doing the dynasty? You probably? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And I think we was in uh he was working
on the UH and he was in the eight room
and I was in the b room working on the
Owen Sparks album and I was doing give It to
Me record and Uh. Then Mac come over there, and
Mac like what's going on there? What you're doing.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
I'm like, I'm grinding you do.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
So we had the hook you go tell whole hole hair.
I was like, oh damn, like this joint. And I
was like, all right, well, you know we're working on
the dicey.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I'ma be on it anyway, let me get it, let's go.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I was a team player on that one, you know
what I'm saying. So at the end of the day,
we did the record with Forrel, which is the biggest,
one of the biggest producers in the industry, and and
the rest is history.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
That's that, man, That's that's crazy. Man, Like I never
got to work with Forrell. Just right there on the spot,
I had a nor he gave me just like, there's
that your chick. I don't take that as me working
with Timbo. I got you. I was just hum bleak
put some verses on. You know what I'm saying. You
know what I'm saying. I want to sit there and work
with these guys. You got a chance to do that
(04:54):
with one of the games and that night. That's special,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
And that's that's you know, from our standpoint at that time,
I didn't realize how a bunch of huge impact of
this like on on on that side of things, because
those are huge names. You know, we taking up in
the big home like for them, a big, huge name
that we were young. So you know, we didn't know that.
You know, it's a verity, but that's the books.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
That's one thing I say, you don't know. You make
your history while you're doing you're doing it. You're just
going you know what I'm saying. And that's how we
did it. So I did the relationship with you and
Beans start for you to even become a part of
state property.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I mean he was there, he was already there.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah, Beans was already.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So I met them through through Black Friday, I think.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, mister piece real role. Yeah, I mean Black Friday.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Black That's how we met. So so Mac was over
there already and then that happened. And I think the uh,
like the movie when we did stay Prop was like
my twin.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Everybody like this twin.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You guys looking like you know, so I'm like, damn,
you wouldn't say we like, you know, what's crazy?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Like the record?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You got what you think of that?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
What you think I used to be running through the
city didn't have a listen that what you think, so listen.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So when we did that, So we built a relationship on.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
That though outside I just had to tell you that
outside of that, because we was on that set in
Jersey City for a long time. Then we details of
a hustler, so that took to the public. That took
to the public like crazy. So and then we just
grew a relationship. It was up and down. You know,
It's one of them things that was rocky, you know
what I'm saying. But we got to know each other
because you know, we're from different sizes.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, he's from South he's from a lot of people
don't know, you know, Philly. It might seem small, but
that ship is.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Second just like geograph stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Was like, but I got there.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I wanted some money. I was thinking, like, Yo, let's
get the money.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That's right, You've always been there, like like thinking, you know,
forward thinking, like out of the crew. Like I was
talking about that outside, I was like, damn a save
it for the part because you know, a lot of
people want to know how we felt during the breakup
and the line, and I was gonna say out of
everybody that I used to tell yo, bro, this ship Yo,
you're wild, and this ship might be going down. You
(07:06):
was the only one who used to be like em
for real, nah em this shit they bugget. We gotta
get the big homies together. Like anybody else used to
just look at me be like whatever, I'm getting money.
I don't give a fuck what they do. But you
was definitely focused, like and we can't let this ship go,
my niggah. It hurt me.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Word out hurt me because I felt a part of something,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Who you said?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
It was like, ah, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
It happen. Then when we did that for the Dynance,
it was.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Just I didn't participate in.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
That, Yeah, And I felt that, like damn.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
It was like no, because when I wrote the script,
I'm like, you're making a movie up there, and then
what's actually happening now, It's like, wow, I can't be
a part of that. But I want to tell you too.
Going back to State Property, you was the best actor
in State Property. Like Beans did his thing, but you
bought beans character to life. You made the movie what
(08:00):
it was. You was that guy man.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, because I had to, you know, they gave me
my part. They gave me that part I had. The
first we was getting news like if you you coming
from the Red World, you better not be playing.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
You're gonna take this.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So I took it serious.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
But uh, thank you people, because I got two thumbs
up from even Rupert.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I was like, well, yeah, man, I'm telling you, you
did your thing in part one and part two. So
I was one day. Did you ever try to, like
audition for any other roles after Stay Property anything more serious?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I did, But you know what it was, it was indy.
You know what I had to learn about business. Sometimes
you could do indie stuff, you know what I'm saying,
But it's union stuff out here too. So it's business this, this, this,
the politics and certain things. It's just totally different, you
know what I'm saying. So with the breakup, because like
with even with that movie, if I knew that really
was going, I wasn't participating that. I knew it was
(08:53):
you was up to, but I couldn't my own going
through the little other stuff. But at the end of
the day, with the as far as the movies and stuff,
a lot of rolls came up. But it was just
like in the stuff instead of more cause I'm sagging
union too. You know what I'm saying, right when they
coming that way talking to some super you know, some
super numbers. But I had to live and learn, you
(09:13):
know what I'm saying. I just wanted to stack my
resume up. That's right, man, It's never too old for acting.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Man. I see you be out there in l A
doing your thing. Man, they definitely need to throw my
guy those roles. You want to see that action. Check
out State property man. Everybody else in there was freestyling.
I felt like when I did scenes with you Zoo,
it was like this motherfucker. Really, I used to be
saying that in my mind, like I'm over capping on camera,
(09:40):
Like motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You know what it is. I gotta go and get
a like an agent or something. I try to manage
my own life, and then people be in my life.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'm always going through a crisis.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I always got some family crisis going and I'm going
through it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Then that that's where the business goes wrong. That's what's yes, bro,
trust me, I know you know I've been through it
with my brother and all of that. You know, shout
out dre out here making moves right, yeah, man, suld
definitely get real when the family issues come up and
definitely deter you from your track. How did you ever
(10:14):
feel that you went, oh, never got a chance to
drop the album?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Man, Like it was crazy because we was the first
one there understood the circumstances. But I think we could have.
Everything happened fast though. This is what I learned about
the business. The money is coming in, you know, so
so with us, it was one of the things like
once whole say this is your summer, you gotta buckle down.
I know, I know I was a few as the
wild card, but you've been nice to sleep in the
(10:38):
studio and.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Go get dressed, y'all come back. I got a whole album.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
So that's why it's important for me to tell my side,
you know what I'm saying, Because it'd be like you
see a lot of stuff you turn on the TV,
and it'd be like, hey, those guys are telling my story.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
You know the money from it.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I said, call the guy, man, we gotta make some
moves and make some money because the guys are actually
making the money off telling my story. And I and
I'm like, whoa something gotta give? That's right, and why
you'd be like enough is enough?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That's right, man, Like they definitely tried to paint it
out like you was the lazy guy in.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
The cool I'm KIDM Johnson, y'all k dot Johnson in
the records. By the way, thanks sold for the look.
I'm on the joint, gave my credits.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's right. Like you was always on time interview studio,
little Anna Edges. But we all was young, bro, it
was young.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
You know what I'm saying having some money, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
And that you don't having money. They throwing money at you, jewelry,
tore the girls on you, ass Like what you expect
me to do? I gotta crash out somewhere, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Said, you know what, that's why I'm back. I want
I want.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
To get it off man. That's right. What's your what's
your relationship with oh? Now? Man?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Well, I did try to reach out to him chop
it up with about things, and I just can't reach
back out to him and let him know you know
how he felt, how he felt because I know how
he felt about a few things. And a few other
guys reached out, you know, they ain't reached out to me.
I actually had him down at the foundation. But they
was running around doing anything with the movies thing, and
I was doing that, so you know, I was busy
(12:16):
doing that.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And that's all to be. I'm in traffic, was rolling
with damn hard like y'all. Was like Dane definitely took
part of state property a lot like y'all.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Because I know they worked in the mac whatever they
worked out, I know that was and I guess that
was his baby and his project. And then we had dipse.
We had a lot of divisions over there. We had
get load dip set. Then you got it was a
lot going on. We had MP Twister came up, so
we had folks over there.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
We had squat over there.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Joe Buddens was there for a minute and he was
in the photo shoot with us. I think.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Maybe I'm wrong, Joe, don't take this as a distant
give me five minutes of slaughter on the show. I
wasn't at that show, baby, at that shoot.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But when I'm looking at but I was looking at
the book, remember the rock book we had, And I
thought I saw him in the photo shooting.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
No, he was in the car photos. I just never
was there. But Joe was always my dog. I used
to see him around just being with Clue in them.
You know what I'm saying. That's right Clue. Yes, you
know Clue was down on the team. Yeah, Clue, Clube,
Duck and the Smoke. I've been trying to get Flu
up here.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You don't want to talk. Don't want to talk.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Duck and the smoke. Clue ain't gonna bring up tour days.
We ain't gonna bring.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
That to get over whatever we went through, it's over, guys.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
You know we had a weird showing people at the time.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
We're going through things and trying to express ourselves.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know, we had to get through these things. The
toys was crazy. You had to be built for them.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Y'all started fast from the backstage, but it was a
wild thing.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
You came around that rock the mic. Yo, Zoo used
to be going crazy Zoo. You're going Zoo, room Ship
be a movie. It was like Zoo. What you got
like I got them all from Randy Whatever you had
had fun.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Fun Yo.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Do you feel like you missed out on any opportunity
that you feel like you should have took more advantage of, Like.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You know, far As film, the music, the music that
I'm not tripping. I always got good records to put
and plus plus the internet, you could just because not
too long ago, I did an independent project and I
flooded it. It was just one of the things. It
wasn't the same as being.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
With the game. Yeah, I was looking.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I was going over some stuff that they do on
my paperwork with some emails and stuff like that, and
they were talking about it was computer savvy, but I
remember doing things on paperwork. That's right, you know what
I'm saying, The kite and that, that kind of stuff.
So it was one of them things like it's different.
You know, I can adapt, but I got kids, you
know what I'm saying. So they the ones that and Daddy,
you know, that's the problem people trying to undermine something
(14:49):
because that's what we at and that's what we got
generations for.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
And that's who see it. They see it. They the
ones who come back to you, Daddy, Why is this
person saying this? Daddy? Why did this person do that?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, because at that part, with all the stuff going on,
they say, Hey, but that's what's crazy about it, because
that's why I had to get myself right, because they're
paying attention anything else. When I was wild, they was
put up.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
That's right. Yeah, they was babies. But now they're older.
They definitely because my son beyond me, Daddy, Why this
person say this?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, they spun, they watch it. So you got to
conduct yourself in a decent manner.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Like the Rock and Feller break up was one thing,
but the state property breakup was another. Man he felt
about that.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Well, well, state, it was already a groups in sections already,
you know what I'm saying. So I felt like I
felt like when when you start something, you ever start
something and then they don't get finished.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I hated it, you.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Know, I hate it. But somebody start something. I want
to finish.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
So y'all started, I like to finish. So that's where
I come from.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
So at the end of the day, it was like
one of the bittersweet things, and I was like, hey,
that's like a record, I really yeah, yeah, yeah, everything
go back to the writing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
When we didn't right, that's right, man, Definitely like growing
up in Philly, man, Like we was talking outside. You know,
Philly is east west, No, it ain't no east, it's
south west North. German Town Southwest fish Town Town, Yeah,
uptown Southwest. I ran through. I remember when I first
met my wife. I was driving through Philly and she
(16:17):
was like, which way do you came, And I'm telling
her the streets I came down and she like, yeah,
you rolled up down bottom and I'm like, what's that.
She's like, that's one of the most gangster blocks in Philly.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I'm like, yo, you lying right, that's I'm from out
west to bottom. Man.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
It's on the news the murder and everyone down there.
I think I gave it to him on State probably
want member till Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I was explaining the guys what was going on down
there and then yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Man, like I wasn't growing up in Philly. Like when
you feel like, out of all the Philly spinners, you
made your mouth, do you feel like you put your
employ I love my Mark.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I love my Mark because it can't be like duper kids.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
That's right, it's like one of them things they still trying.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
That's even feeling everybody's pissed, hey, because hey.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Man, this is different.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
You know what's going on?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So with my Mark, because you remember when that started,
it was the flows was different.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Remember had that float.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I just straighted my own lane.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
That's right, I love it always was the different one
out of the rock. But that got like the most love.
When we touched the stage, like Zoo, come on stage,
the motherfuckers would go crazy. You'll be like, yo, this
nigga wrote this verse five o'clock in the morning, half sleep.
We was in there all the night trying to do this.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Ship because because we're coming from a place where if
the underdog or something else, because be the guy that
kicking and beating us up, they're doing they doing us filthy.
You know how many people world wid that's happening to.
So even if I'm in my element, that's my zone,
and and and we put it out, you know it's
gonna make something.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
That's a fact. Zoo, that's a fact man. Like man,
I missed the tour days, the studio days. Man, we
we had some hell of a fucking times.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Now it was my fucking guys. I steal my bros.
To this day. I hate to see where all of
us is at that like, you know, at the end
of the day, you know, beans, we got our differences.
I haven't spoke the sequel yet.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
You and Bean still I've seen from time to time
when we don't even really talk. I try to go
past this truck and.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Hang down.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Wanted to grab something and it was closed. But it's
crazy because they see all that, but we don't see
each other. That's why the bisness look crazy. So so
that's really what it is, you know what I'm saying.
It's like and that's cool. That's why I did my
own thing independent, you know what I'm saying. I could
sell my own stuff trademark patner, you know what I'm saying.
But twisted, I know that I'm still a brand. I
come from a major situation, that's right.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, Like you said, the heartbeat, you know what I'm saying.
You was the heartbeat of State problem bro, like the
rock like all of us, bro, Like you definitely held
it down for the crew. Like used to be bombing
on niggas yo, y'all bullshit, that's get to work, that's
go to the studio. Fuck these bitches yoat niggas playing
(19:04):
fuck this ship. Man, we ain't gonna have this ship forever.
Like you was definitely on that vibe.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
If they give them that drive, that motivation work. You
know what I'm saying, come on, guys, because I felt
I lift like we now, we don't know how long
we're gonna be here, That's right. So I lived like that,
and and and the catalog shows you know what I'm saying.
So when everybody trying to pick on me and show
me that kind of leg away in the rent, I'm like, I.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Get it, but where you at?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That's right, you see what I'm saying. So that's that
part with that. So the State prop breakup, it's just
one of them things. I feel like with the game
they supposed to. You know, we s could have set
at the table because what happens is if people still
bringing it up, we're still in that hundred, that hundred
top hundred jones of like fourteen fifteen because we part
of rock didn't get around it. So if it's still moves.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
To make and everybody looks selfish, look crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
They look crazy, bro. And you know, I don't want
to bring up conversations, but I was just talking to
certain people. You know, free, my bro, I talk you
free every day, right, you know what I mean? Crack
hit me the other day and crack like yo league,
this ship going on. I don't want to be a
part of this. I can imagine it. I can imagine,
like yo, crack, what's going on.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
But my thing is where I'm coming at, because if
somebody asks for y'all, that's what I told them to
where so my thing with me it'd be like where
we got a problem at because somebody bringing up all
crap about some other stuff that watered that's under the
bridges water of the bridge. And if we're arguing about
things that we shouldn't be arguing about, that's a little
bit crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
To come on, bro, we can't all your about starting
that happened twenty years ago.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
But here we're grown, like everybody knew family that's insane.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
These are things that left.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
To make you get thick skin and so they make
you wise.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And then the guy that passed down the book to
him and say, look this how you move if you're
a parent of any all over ship twenty years ago
is insane, Like that ship is whack. Like Crack definitely
was like bleak, I ain't fucking with nothing. I'm cool,
I'm laying low up with the kids. I don't want
nothing to do with nothing. I get it, like, but
I definitely got to have a conversation with Beans, right.
(20:59):
I definitely got to to the to see.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
It makes sense, you know, because y'all was gang like.
Y'all was the two that you know what I'm saying,
that was there before. So at the end of the day,
that's a situation and you you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And you was like to him, how I am the
whole you was to beings like you was there? You
know that me and Beans we put in a lot
of work to brow togain on camera and just slid
like be like yo. I think Jay helped Bleak with
all his raps like oh no, no, no that I
was like.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I heard somebody stuff was talking about they get back
to me and they be trying to pull me into
them conversations like what it's like.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
My nigga all them nights in the studio, squad like
come on, came in there and said, who hold, don't
even talk like that, Just come.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
On, God, let's just get to the.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, man, like what's going on? I think the Gang
becoming ship fucked up a lot of things with us
because we was before this and a lot of people
don't know that when when you when you do something
on the net. This shit last forever. There is go
back in it. There is no go back. The only
(22:07):
thing you can do, like we said outside, if the
disrespect is loud, the apology gotta be just as loud's.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
That's what I said.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Because I went back and looked at some of the
clips and stuff like that, and I realized, Okay, we
can't hide these things. We can't do this and all
that kind of stuff because I am in the public.
And when I realized that that, you know, somebody somewhere
was trying to pull my jacket somewhere and I couldn't
understand it. I didn't get the men, I ain't get
the memo, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
So I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But at the end of the day that when you're
putting it out there, it looked great. So what public
apology has to be made before we can do any
business because phone calls are coming through. But a public
apology before we get the money. Then we can get
to the money.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
If we're going to be publicly, because that's what.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Wrong right anyway, and that's what you see. So at
the end of the day, it's one of them things
because a lot of stuff goes wrong with is somebody
else's situation and you're trying to mirror it.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
So you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
And I was always happy for my dogs. Man, you
was the movie guy. You did State Property one two,
Death of a Dynasty, and I believe you did Paper
Soldiers too. I get to do that when y'all had
no They only put me on one clip. Put me
on one clip, and I ain't even want to do that.
I ain't even want to do that one. I was
(23:18):
like no, because I knew what was going down. Man,
And I'm like, niggas pulling me on both sides of
the crew. It is like, naw, I'm staying on one side. Yo.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I'm one hundred percent believe in that. I serve two masters. No,
that's your mind.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You going crazy, And that's what do you feel like?
State Property? Like a lot of y'all win the split
hap been went with that.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Now, I ain't went with nobody that said the split
sheet came. You know what I'm saying, because you remember
I went home and did my payback out so so
so if he doesn't have that's catch.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah. Yeah, it was the first.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
My own million entertainment my.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Ship went the first one to drop it. Yeah, yeah,
I win did my own thing.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I was like, I'm just you know what I mean,
just go through my thing because there was a lot
of friction going on and that's what I was on anyway,
and then you see me, if you saw me, it
was like, all right, I was still bust move because
y'all taught me a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
You know what I'm saying. I learned a lot of
top So.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I'm like, yo, I'm applying.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Y'all can see it.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
If y'all you know what I mean. If not, then
you can't say. I ain't give it a whirl.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
But at the end of day, that's why I did
my own independent album.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Like You definitely wasn't the non drama one. Like when
it came to business, I feel like you was the
non drama one, right, But when it came down there, Yo,
it's lively.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Called rights my fucking god, because I know he like zoom,
he locked out, he knocked out, You got him security
of the room breaking.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You ain't waking up. You know that nigga was drinking drunk,
a whole bottle of him to see last night, this
nigga was going crazy yeah, yo, yeah, it was a
rock star. You was rather a fellow rock star.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Jesus kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
You know, by the part of my life. God, that
was a part of my life.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
What do you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I thank god. Sometimes I say we should have had
social media, But for those nights, I thank god was
did yeah missed? If you understand, if you knew how
that was going, Yo, the Knights in Miami, Like I
remember when we went on the we went on the
(25:26):
tour and we got to stop in Miami and fucking
this is this is you probably don't even remember this.
This is when Bobby Dash was there. We was promoting, promoting.
It's when y'all was promoting the State Property album and
we was on a little run for that was on
tour at the same time, all right, And remember we
got to Miami and Bobby was like, Yo, I got
(25:48):
to do a party with some you know, some vps,
you know, some radio people or whatever. And then we
was like what kind of party you're doing. He's like, yeah,
I'm gonna get some strippers over there in the hotel.
So remember we crashed the party. The djob like turn
in the hen sweating like he used to hate us.
(26:13):
Rest go and y'all used to be the driver. Y'all
used to be all going. I remember we was in
the van rest of Beast going, Yo, we in the vans,
me you freeway, Beans, b I murder all of us
in the van that he was dropping us in New York.
This was New Year's Eve and Beans was like, they'll
(26:36):
bleak this nigga, don't get us back to Philly before
the ball drop is on. That nigga zoo like, Yo bleak.
Tell Beans, chill out. Tell us a nigga chill. It
might be traffic bleak. It's they used to be just
tripping some time. You know, I like, Yo, cool out, Matt.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
You know what I'm saying, Tell you just chill, Matt, chill.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Any times you and Mac did any road shows when
you had to call mackdown because Max from zero to
a hundred.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Twenty nights, plenty nights, even with that show when he's
out of North Carolina being whole and macnum, I wasn't
there that one. Yeah, I had the follow, Yo, Mac,
what is you doing? But you know, a lot of
them times, That's what I'm saying. A lot of nights
that people they're talking about the separation. You know that
truck all us getting tagged.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's what I've be looking at.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
That's how I used to my my, my whole outlook
with it. That's where I used to be on my joint.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
He never knew you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
But we used to have them ratties on the road.
I know you used to bring them raties were not
slipping on that road.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Three buddy had the A B seat buss.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Remember yo, the sea bus was rik his island right,
it was right was up the alley that you was
be saying that, like the all number A bus caught
on fire. Yeah, I remember what was they got it? No, No,
that was used to my own.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
That was back stage, y'all joint. No somewhere else we went.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
No, we was We was with Free Member Freeway had
the Ikey Muslim. The Muslim brother was its manager on
the tall and he was like, Yo, that's his name,
shout out nigga, Like Yo, the bus on fire, get away.
It's about the bloom. You don't remember that everybody luggage
burnt up, But that would be would be what that
(28:13):
was rocked. The mic that was rocked. The mic tour
my nigga, remember Sabin, it wasn't around.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
No no, because the Free had changing for yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Free had like eight man. He was trying get it right.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
You know what it was was my God pies to God.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah just say yeah some medical problems.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
No way, man, Damn, I hope we get better, man,
God blessed man that nigga used to be on tour
with us, chefing up on the bus. Nigga. Sure we
ate God to come through with that food like we
lived for sure. Like, Yo, is it anybody from Rockefeller?
Because you had a lot of different relationships with different people,
(28:56):
Like is it anybody you feel like? Damn man, I
wish we had more time to really lock in and
put that work in at Rock.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, like all us like remember like me and you
never got try to chop it up all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Because you was running. Man, he was running. That's why Zoo,
That's why we never got to make a record Zoom sleep,
I come into stoop because everybody used to work in
the morning.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Was yeah, like damn, never really chances. That's why I
used to always just do the records. You know what
I'm saying, Like, Damn that I never catch up with you.
There wasn't no too many because you know, we were
stay proud. I got to kick it with Home and
bigs and so it was too you know the rest
of us that just take care of us, you know
what I'm saying. Other than that, that's it because we
never got the chance to give a bust the kind
of moves like that.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yeah, that's that's that's crazy, right. We never did a
record together because I was an early morning studio nigga.
That's why the Beans and Bleak album didn't work, because
y'all niggas was live rats middle of the night, one
the five, six in the morning. Me, I'm nine to
twelve in the afternoon and I'm back in the street.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
You was on it, yeah, and I I was like
my daytime activities. You know, even I'm exhausted. I said, oh,
let me just get this off my check.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
But you was on it.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
That's all it was.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
But day and night sometime go together.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yep. No, we was chasing. I was. I was out
there in the morning. I was definitely chasing in the streets.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I'm like that, now, let's get it there early.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
I'm very professional now because that's why I turn with
tardiness and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I learned a lot. I tell my son and I
tell everybody man, Like anybody calling this eleven twelve o'clock
and they just getting up. It's like, oh, life is good.
You can sleep this late like niggad. You know the
checks get cut, Yeah in the morning.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
That's what I'm saying, And that's why it's important for
us to get back to the Yeah that's going the
wrong way.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
We got to bring it back to us.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Definitely with us.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Everybody is nobody else can do it but us. You
did gonna come from.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
That's why I started this show. Like Norri was like, yo, Bleak,
shout out Norri too.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
He was like, Bleak, you should get in this space.
You know, you know a lot of shit. You was
cool with everybody from Rockefeller, so you like the only
guy that everybody really you could bring everybody together and
they're gonna respect the story that which I tell it.
And I was telling him, I'm like, yo, bro, I'm
not on none of that chasing that viceroom moment, right,
(31:10):
I'm not on that. If we're not on here giving
out game and lightening these young niggas giving out some
inspiration or you know, put an idea in somebody's mind
to go further over it. I don't want to be
a partner.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Sh ain't nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
That's what it's about. That. We ain't gonna be out
here doing no whole ship. That's not That's not what
we're about. Man. We ain't kicking nobody, and we definitely
we can talk about the fun nights. Were not gonna
name the name, and I'm gonna be like, yo, I
had Shorty over here, Shorty over you look like a
major limit drive doing that.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
You know what I learned about some of the business
some people.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Some people is just different.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I was just explaining about it's good business and then
you got bad business. You understand.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Definitely the good business feel good. You know that's right,
that's right. You gotta ship ain't doing but you mean me,
your vibe is off and all that. So, so you
know what the firm believer that every dollar is not
a good dollars, right, you know what I mean, money
come from You can take money from good people and
bad people.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I just came from Atlantic City, right, it was like
it was like it went crazy. But the guy had
the whole layout for me. I could have just you know,
it's a difference, you know what I'm saying, that's one
thing if I gotta raise my my pressure up and
all that.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
If I'm gonna say it's one thing I missed from
back in the day. You just bringing up Atlantic City.
I fucking missed the forty forty in the live, Yo,
that's what fucking that man? Step for what am I doing?
I was supposed to be what was't a problem? Yo?
Whoa The forty forty in Atlantic City was Philly fucking
(32:43):
had that was having what that was heaving for anybody? Yo,
forty forty You know, I'm telling you. You went up there,
it was like across across the table were trimming.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
We had flow and then and that was just starts spot.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That was the spot. The forty forty and fucking Atlantic City. Man,
what a fucking time. Atlantic City is not what it
used to be.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Man, No, it's different. Was going to need more.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I think I think we gotta get back out there.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, man, something got back. They be doing a lot
of concerts now. Everybody be camming out.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
There and it's just out there right.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah. They did they ship yeah at the casino. Yeah
something I know, shock, throw a bag out there. Okay,
he redeveloped right now, it's a good time to invest
in Atlantic City. Yeah, some big ship, big big, big,
big moves happening.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, niggas got some bread to.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Play with, ana, because we need that good business back,
that's right, and because if you give it to bad business,
the world starts to cross.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Oh yo, it's a lot of That's when I woke.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Up, and that's what I say. I got to call
him that the world's falling apart, looking at the world's falling.
What's going on here? Update me, Update me on everything, man.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
And one thing too, my platform, bro, like all of
us as brothers, but watching my dogs crash out. But
I'm yeah, no, y'all see you. That's why you you
always been who you are. You sparks, You the life
of the party, you have your fun time. You're a businessman,
your family man. You're an entrepreneur, you're an activist. Now
(34:22):
your fucking movie star like a fucking rapper, entrepreneur, you're
doing business like come on, bro, they need to.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Know this ship and that's what that's why you got
to be on the right platform. That's right, because the
crash out of somebody that you actually you feel like
you care and you love for, that's not your homie,
that's the street. Like I've been in the hood, I've
seen guys at say I love you and love you
that ain't love.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
No, I don't do that. I come.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I know about it.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
So you know, I'm gonna treat it just like it's
one of mine. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
The fact that's how I move. So, yo, what's next
for zoo man? What's the next move?
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I want to do someone, I want to do something
of course, film, you know, and I've been writing. Of course,
I've been writing, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
And I.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Just shot another movie and accompliss accomplish and that was
a sag joint. So you know, I'm trying to get
my feetbackack. And there I ran into a few guys
and it was like things that just really got to
get rectified on the business end, because it's it's business.
It's unfinished business that nobody's talking about, acting like it
doesn't exist, and it's it's and it shows up.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
So that's why I was talking to the guys. It's
not that you ain't gonta worry about me on that.
And you see what I'm saying, And that's what the
problem is. And then we just gotta be able to
talk and hash things out and and say, hey, man.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I was I was out of order at that for that.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
That's right, I was wrong, and all.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Right, now we can move forward because that part of
it ain't always about that money.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Like you said, it's respect level too.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Who you feel like you want to have this conversations
with that's upt.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Some of the guys and the gang. You know what
I'm saying, Oh free who else? Who else need to
have this conversation? Uh?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Dame?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
You know what I'm saying, Dame for for sure. Uh
all those guys.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
So at the end of the day, they owe you that,
you know, they owe you that.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Everybody. So it's like me and Big Homer, we catch up,
you know what I'm saying, because that's my big dog.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
But you know I would love to.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
See Big Homie just to say what up? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, but you you you said you wanted to have
a conversation, like certain things need to be rectified, like
that ship. If it's something need to be rectified with
a whole week, let's pull.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Up right right right, But yeah, that's but that's what
he did for me.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I'm fucking yeah. So it's like I like the business,
so it's like hey man, you know, hey, how you doing?
That's right? Yeah? Right? But definitely like all the brosnah
free oh Dame right, niggas should never be a time
that you feel like you need to have a conbo
and you can't have a convo with the bros. Niggas
gott to pick up the phone. I heard. I've seen
(36:54):
Dame say a kind say something that you know a
lot of people wasn't picking up the phone for him.
Only person picked up the phone was bleak. And same
thing with Oschino oh going through what he going through,
the gods going what they going through. But niggas know
when they hit bleak line bleak like this, you know
what I mean? And that's what everybody because I feel
like if niggas got anything they want to get off
(37:16):
their chest. To me, I'm a man first, man. All
that other shit is secondary. Man, Like we're gonna holler
because at one point in my life, I consider all
your niggas my brothers. Like that came from my mother.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
See yeah, you hear it.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
You know what I mean. The spirits is selling them.
You gotta.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
But that's all it is, and that's what it is
with us, you know what I'm saying. And that's the problem. Yeah, man,
this is we, like you said, nobody robbing nobody. Man,
So if I have put that crap, yo, you ran
the native trying to chase the dag.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
That's that was my conversation. You know. I had that
talk when I had to sit down before with Cam.
I'm like your Cam or some g ship, if you
really put down what we went through in this business, right,
nobody got slapped, nobody got shot, nobody died, nobody kicked nobody,
nobody dog, nobody kid got slapped. So you know what happened.
We just had an argument over beats right right. It
(38:12):
was like, you know, I ain't never think about it
like that, right.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Because like Nigga's like business.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
It's like we know people on top and we know
what we're doing, but it's like we all instrumental in it.
And that's all we wanted to be recognized for who
we are getting off fishing, that's.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Right, man. And you, like I said, Zoo, you're a
major part of the Rockefeller You're a major part to
your community and my life doing yeah, man, all of
all of my life. So that was that's another part.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
So that's what they going wrong with me because it's
gonna always be a serious situation because I took a
tax because when I'm running around telling God, hey, y'all
playing with it. It changed my life.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
It taged everything, It tast my whole world, helped me
feed my kids, pick me up.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
One thing I would say to you, saying, you writing
like a lot of shows, a lot of movies, should
you should you should write a movie about your life.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
That's what baby Boy really about.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Man. I'm gonna ask because you've been doing a lot
saying a lot. You've been around a lot like you
know you you make legendary moves, man, And that's what
this show is about because everybody.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Get it done without the team.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I got it.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
We hear, bro.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
That started with us and all bro you calling me
from different places and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
You see you hit my line. Bro, I'm whatever zoom like,
I'm always on deck. So anything you need from me,
my team we here. We got you, bro.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
That's what let's get to it.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Let's get to it. Then right here, let's get to
I need my.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Got new warehouses.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Listen and we folk. Let it be know. I got
say at your don't you got our own customer service.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Let's get into the business.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Man, I got you zoom man, anything man, anything anytime
you ever want to come, you know, if you got
anything to promote anything you any word you feel like
niggas ain't understanding. You want to get your word off.
You want to tell about your community, giveaways, your activision
like your movie, drop anything, bro. My platform is your platform.
My house is your house. You're my brother and I
(40:12):
love you for life. You know that, my nigga zoom man,
you know what it is? Tell them man, where they
can find you at.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Zoom You can find me at rock Salid Hollow. That's
right when I'm at.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
No man, it's so shoes my Yeah, you ain't none
of that plug now.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
But the real Millio Sparks on Instagram, y'all. A Million
Sparks Foundation dot org is the website. You can google
it do all that kind of stuff. And of course
I'm on Facebook, Twitter and all that kind of stuff
and Million Sparks and that's where you.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Can find me. At It's right, a million sparks, the
young gun. You know what it is, man, It's rock Solidland.
Do say my fear. That's right, my fucking outside nigga, Rockland,
forever life nigga. Yeah. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit
(41:04):
iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your
favorite shows app, and you can follow me on any
social media platform under the name Memphis Bleach. You see
anybody fraud in flagging
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com