Wais P | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek - ROC Solid

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What up, y'all. This is your main man, Memphis Bleak
right here.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to Rock Solid, her production of iHeart Radio and
the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over
at Drink Champs Big with the year Memphis.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm back at it, niggas.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Notice the difference just pron President Stones. Yeah, y'all, right
back at you with another one new episode of Rock Solid.
And like I always tell you, you see anybody on
this platform. Number one, nam my brother number two, they
solid as a mother fucking rock.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
And to the left of me, this man, this is
just family dog, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
When it comes down to this rap shit, when it
comes down to who you started with. This is one
of the guys that was right there from the beginning,
and even when it was over, he was still right
here with me, My mother fucking brother.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Wivesp in the building.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Let's give a round of applause for my guy in
the building, y'alling.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
What's something I gin? My brother? Are you being bro?
I'm here with you forever. You're already my nigga. Man.
What's the word on the vibes?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Marvelous? Man?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
I can't even complain. Man, life is marvelous.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Man. Everything's beautiful. Man. I'm here with you. Man, I
can't wait to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
You already know, man, we got a lot of shit
to talk about all day.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Like, bro, from the beginning of this shit, man, we
was in the studio. I remember, I think it was
we was recording Celebration when I first met you and
be how first y'all came around. Be how like yore bleak,
it's the new group. I'm managing the Rangers. You and
Dark half shot.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Out my bro half shout out half.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
You know what I'm saying. He was like, this is
my new group. We was in the studio, y'all niggas
was spinning. Y'all play some music and I'm like, Yo,
who the.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Fuck is this nigga? Bro?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Like, you just always had the different side of life.
Bars to me, man, like what made you get into
the rap and choose like that lane in rap?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I mean, first of all, you're forgetting you used to
be in the group. Yeah, yeah, we battled on State Street.
You forgot about that?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Ho Lord you talk about that's when I had Little T. I. Yeah,
Little T.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
I was my partner. I was in the bad shout out,
my bro, little Ti. I.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
We was in the group called the Crookland Bandits, you
know yo, the Crookling Bands, five Street, and we battled
rap ball football, we like.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Said fifteen versus because that was Damn. I don't I
ain't remember that.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
You took a back bro before the studio session for
the session.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Damn. That's what's up?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Man?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
But ship? What made you?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Like I said, Bro, like you was always like the
Wizard of the Bars to me, Like you came up
with that ship that was just left field and it
just always sounded right.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Usually people go feel and you be like, yo, what well, homie,
you just how to bring it right back, you know
what I'm saying. So, like I said, what made you
get into that lane of.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
The rap s?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Well, you mean to be honest with you, you know what
I'm saying. Like when I met Vito, like he just
showed me a different thing.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
And then like even.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Though I was doing my own thing and trying to
like I was always trying to like make him happy,
Like I was always trying to like make him proud
of me, you know what I'm saying. So so so
I would say, that's that's what took me there because.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Okay, because hovers are some different ship member. Back then,
Cannelly was around.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Oh see the.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Heights with you and have used to be in the
crib and the heights Chinese, yo. We used to take
the top off, rip the other hand, and rip the
other hand on the top.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
That's know what I'm saying. Niggas don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
We're from the hot sauce and catch up four wings
for a dollar because a wing was a quarterback. That's
a Fendy belt and he was right now. We vintage
niggas up here.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
We used to put that ship on the on the
top and then and then you get the other side
and then you share that ship.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Crazy, yo, So how did you and half me? Being half?
Half was a DJ.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Half is one of the most talented motherfuckers I've ever met.
I'm like, DJ. Yeah, half was a DJ. He didn't
even wrap that first. I was running around the hood
rapping seeing I'm the best to ever do it.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Anybody wanted to come get it.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
I was getting chased out of Kanarsi and he was
chasing MEANSI.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Is wicked up, bro. That's the back of Queen of Brownsville.
It's like the back Red Hook niggas. I went over
there and you the back of Brooklyn. They ran me
out of that world all the drama back there.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
So I was due with that and half was DJ
and then and then he started rapping. I was like, dude,
you just good at everything you do. He was one
of them dudes that like is good at everything it does.
He barblers, he does everything like like I'm like, like
he plays the guitar.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
I'm like, how did you just be good at everything? Yo? Know?
He was one guts and that was dope to me.
So like that's how we met, bro.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Like you know, there's been a lot of shit niggas
always out here, like Yo, Jay Wright for Bleek J
wrote this, niggas don't know, man, I get credit for
niggas always saying, Yo, Bleak, your hardest verse is celebration,
And I gotta give you credit for that, bro, because
you definitely helped me make that verse come to life.
I still don't know what pharaoh's in Egypt, you.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Know what I'm saying. You gave me that barber sitting
there like.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Through the barrel. Naturally we did like the pharaohs and
he was like, yeah, on the ten speed weeding. You're right,
let's go git, you know what I'm saying. So it's
like that was always a thing amongst us to where
it was like if you stuck and.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
The nigga see the vision for you. We we we
helped each other.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
And like I heard you say before we started taking that,
you wish we would have kept that that camaraderie and
our family. Can you imagine, yo, Bro, can you imagine
the thing it was me, your sauce, Bro.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
It would have been It would have been a monster.
I mean, I mean, I mean if it was a.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Monster regardless, I'm just wat you kept it together.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
I wish we would have also because it would have
been just such a monstrosity. And all I ever wanted
to do was make the big homie problem, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
So that's what all I ever wanted the dudes, just
to make him prou so. That was and I wish
I would have got a chance to do that. But whatever, though,
you definitely did.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Bro y'all made the album that's one of his biggest
selling albums, one of the hardest records. If I Die,
Don't cry, my nigga. Yeah, the chorus come on, g
what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
That was a big look.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
That was first of all for Jay to give you
a verse on the song. That means he was proud
to give you a verse and the hook.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
You know he was happy and shout out to him
because in the liner notes he said, I feel like
I put everybody.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
In the proper, proper position. Yeah, he gave us all
the shot, and he gave us all the shot. And
I can't never be. I can't be.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
That's one session I wasn't there for man. I wonder
how that session went.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Man, he was there for a lot of the YO.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
We used to be a Henchman studio yo.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
You know, back then, I don't even know who Jimmy Henchman.
I don't know how infamous who. We used to just
be in.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
The studio rabbit like this whose studio I bet get
busy when he came home.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
And the history it's like, hold on, fan, I used
to be in your studio tripping. Oh shoot, I don't
even know.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
His nephew was the homie. I forgot his nephew name
man Maryo. No, man, he was the homie. I used
to funk with him. We used to pull up and
well anyway, you know who you were is fan man.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
That was good days though.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Man, Yo, we was wilding, bro, Like I said, I
wonder to how that session. Don't cry, Just ride my
nigga bus bullets in the sky, my nigga.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
When I'm going dome on my nigga.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
I go to this session, right, beatle, call me right.
I come to this session.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Swiss beats, and I'll never forget it. SWI get the.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yo, Swiss beasts. Did that man that's right there? That
do you remember? Used the jumpers?

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, had that on he had a used jumper. Yeah,
the used with the with the jumper with the.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Buttons, yo, bro. That you know, that's the reason I
started selling drugs.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
God, bro, use.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Jumpers is the reason why I started selling drugs.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
That clothing brand fucked my life up because I went
and told my mom's yo, mind needs you, I need
your new school coming up.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
I need to use it.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Was using damage my mom like, why the hell would
you want.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Somebody else's clothes? And they use why would you want it?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I travel far yo, and I knew at that moment
when mom was like, why would you want somebody else clothes?

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I knew she was out the loop. I had to
go get it.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yeah, So back to your session you used Swiss pulled
dump in the US and.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
He played that ship.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
And it just started rocking, and I'm just like, Yo,
this is not nigga, this is nuts.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
And I'll tell you another joint. He played the joint
with d MX the.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
What was it, money Money Cash, Yeah, And I told
him I didn't like to beat you lying, I swear
to god, you know you know what?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (10:04):
You know, so saying he didn't like come into age
to be yeah, sweat, yo, bro, I was Swiss did that?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
That's crazy? He said he didn't like that beat. I said,
I said, I'm like felling that and he was like,
watch would I do that? And then we did. I
was like, you're the fucking greatest, yo.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
That whole album came out Insane value too.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
That was nuts.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
The album was insane like then like y'all fast forward,
y'all went and got y'all deal. But y'all did y'all
deal with what was it? Carter Faculty right, Yeah, Carter
Faculty Death Jam, shout Out be high Time and I
think it was O G Wong right. They was all partners.
Was he I could be not sure. I'm not sure,

(10:47):
but he might have been involved. Yeah I think so,
but you know, shout out be high Carter fact.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
I love him, I love him to devil love talk
to him.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
How did the record with John Rupe come about?

Speaker 3 (11:01):
That came about because we was doing uh what was it?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
For the movie? For the movie.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
So I just wanted to do a record with him
because I had this hook in my mind, like, say
what you want to say about you know what I'm
saying here gonna keep rocking. And I was like I
had that in my head. I'm like, it'll sound great
if he says it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is this
is this was the original job when he was jumping

(11:31):
about the with the.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
With the with no shirt on.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
This is that job. He was all one and and
and the love and I loved IRV Gotti to me
used to be a big Yes.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
I was a vision It's like a visionary, like a motherfucker.
He knew, he knew exactly what he was doing.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
And he used to be aware. And he was telling
Lee yor when we was doing death Jam, you.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Not shigning, You're not shigning the Rangers. What are you crazy?
It was crazy at that time. He was really like riding.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I was like, man, I love just do it. Like
he don't even want to do it. My niggas, say
what you want to say. Feature at Joe Rude the Rangers.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
That ship was so we put so so we put
it together. But here's the dopest thing about that record.
And I'm glad I get to say this on camera.
Job was making so much money.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Get that moment he said he did a movie and
the money that Death Jair paid him, he just gave
it all to his moms.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
M He didn't even need it. Man, that's how you
do it. I was like, that's some gangster ass ship.
Like like, just's some gangster ass sh I want to
be able to do that some days just I didn't
even want to take the sentence of my bombs did that, man?
And I've always had respect for him stream for that.

(12:57):
You remember when you first bought ya Honda Cord, It
wasn't it wasn't even know it wasn't mine. Oh, I
thought it was a.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Girl that I knew it was just bar Ruin. I
used to fright like it was mine. I even wrapped
about it and mis bleeker is I was on my
by what was my dude name? And baby boy, oh boy,
got it rimmed up.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Wasn't even mine. It wasn't mine though, but it was
your me. You read you read me, you and who else?
Ras cast Yo Rash was the biggest start all of.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
The biggas all the time, that Rash. Remember he took
us to the chicks crib.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Let me tell it. Let me yo, yo, my shoe Yo.
We go to these Japanese.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yo, we get to the crib. They like down mind
you you was with rads already like bleek come scoop us.
I'm like, all right, I'm on my way.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I get with these niggas.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Rass like, Yo, I got some joints in the lower
east side, let's go.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
He's like, we get to the crib, yo, my.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
G This wasn't rush hour, and you know rush hour
when they opened the door, all the Japanese joints like
what do you like? No, it wasn't that. Shorty had
every cat ever made, like Ali Simese, whatever cat they made,
she had them all. It was like one hundred cats

(14:33):
in the crib. She had three friends. It was three
in the crib and they kicked us out.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, because I was I don't do this.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I'm looking at rats like we.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Had to go, yo, bro.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
The tour light was different by g shout out the
girls to be like, Yo, I got some Japanese girls side.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
You ain't even from l A. You ain't even supposed
to be around here, Yo, bro. We was wilding back
in on the road.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Man, Yo, But then what was your cousin name the producer?

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Damn? What was my man name? The man Runner Runner?
Jay second Runner? Yo.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Listen, you know how it is this Kanye West. It's
just blaze, its ski beats, It's primo. Jay Runner was
supposed to be one of those names last name Stout.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
His name is Gerald Stout. I forgot he related on
bull sides.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yes, that's how through y'all too. God bless my g
Rian his mother's side. God, that's all through y'all. Yes
your list. Jay Runner was one of the illest producers.
So when I first did my first album, he came
through with all the smoke for the first album. Remember

(16:06):
he did Stay Alive in New York City, that's a fact.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
And he did this song we did now in No
w Niggas of the world. I remember when we when
he played.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
The beat, I was like, yo, I don't know, and
you was like you and have was like what, I
got the hook for this ship already think it's in
the world, And I'm like, let me hear niggas spit
the hook and the rest was history.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
We went dumb on that motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
And he did this ship with with veto and uh.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
And too short and too short?

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah all good A week ago ago? Yeah, No, Jay
Runner was special with it.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Bro. I was wondering.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
I always wondered, like why did Jay why he fell
back like from making beats or anything?

Speaker 3 (16:50):
You know, I don't I don't think he ever fell back.
I just think he just like it was all family.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Family.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, you know when things get you know, complicated, and
you know he's he was just like yah, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
I don't want nothing to do or nothing. But it
was all love.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
I don't really know how it went any other way,
but it was definitely.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Remember it was a family thing.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Remember is remember is Yeah, is like we had to share,
That's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
He used to do funny ship like like like like
like running was like a bastard sometimes like Jay brought
me out of the.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Show at Uh.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
I think he were it at UH in Brooklyn and
we were supposed to we were supposed.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
To rhyme over the.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Over the tropical question which one?

Speaker 2 (17:54):
And he played the vocals all purpose because he was
mad at me that Yo chill j was j was
on some ship.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Jane used to be on Runner run Up back in
the day. That's offended world.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
God, I forgot Runner, but he was mad at me
and half for some shit in the hood, and he
played the vocals. Runner was the first DJ, if I'm
not mistaken, it didn't have the Runner with IRV Gotti.
God bless us so because that's how I'm at IRV Gotti.
IRV was j DJ on the shows. He was running
around wise half. That's another thing, man, Why am I man?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Half?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Like?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
I feel like.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
When it came to Brownsville, you got Smith and Wesson,
you got mo p when they come down the Crown Heights,
they had y'all. It's not many groups out of Brooklyn,
and y'all one of them groups that I felt like,
y'all could have been bigger. And I think why was half?
You probably can't I gotta get Half up here to
ask him, but you may be get answer this. It's

(18:59):
like you think Half is really so I don't want
to say sheltered. But he quiet, bro like he ain't.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
I know you don't care about the fact. I tell
you what what what it really is.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
And that's with my brother and I love him. And
he'll tell you too.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Man.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
He'll walk around and say, Yo, you know I ain't
do this rap shit no more. If you'll touch Wise,
I'm gonna kill something like he just.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Love me like I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
But but like he didn't feel like the game was.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
He felt like talent shit overrule business. Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
So once once that didn't work out that way, he
was like, this shouldn't fair.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
I'm done.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Man, definitely ain't. Man, the game ain't feel like He
was like, I'm done you know for me? You know
you transitioned that like we had the Ranger's movement and
then you went from your story too, man, because before
I get into the transformation into my man of Wise,

(20:03):
we gotta go into how I met Wise.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
This was brother Wise when I met him, this nigga
was on his ship.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Hard Out of five percent of Muslim all that ship
hard still study on me. Don't come on. You want
the Junior Baker cheeseburger. You can't just get the cheeseburger. Bleek,
What you doing?

Speaker 1 (20:22):
So I used to be like, damn all right, let
me get the regular cheeseburger. I'm around the guards. Gotta
respect the guards talking all this ship.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, queens, the sisters, gotta get you a strong black
one be How was all on this ship? All of
them used to jump me with the colds. What's today's mathematics? Like,
oh shit, all right, cool cool? But then we get
to a party a man and be like my Milker
magazine yum, oh my god, my beautiful back queen. Can

(20:52):
you step aside please? This cannot be the same guard.
Oh god, you probably.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Don't remember this. I remember asking you.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
I'm like, yo, but how you do both like they
can like bleak payback a bit, yo, as you told
me that in DC.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I'm like, yo, bro, you'll be going hard with the
other side because he just said pay back a bitch.
I gotta get mine back reparations. Baby. I used to
say that. I did used to say that, yo, you
was on some ship. Was that part of the transformation?
Of wise.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Nah, No, I think, I just uh, I think, I
just you know, it came to.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
It just came to a point where I was having
so much fun.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
We're just like, oh the road was crazy. Yeah yeah, yeah,
so much fun on the road. And then like even
when you know, I wasn't in the spotlight no more.
I just was having so much fun in the streets,
like to the point where it was like, hey, you know,
you know, do this, do that, and go get to
the paper.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
I ain't tripping off nothing, just gonna get some money.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
And we and and I did that for a moment,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
But you you tugged it out, yeah you know, But
I just I just I just want to right now
just kind of.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Speak the culture more than more than actually living the culture,
because in that moment we was young still. I was
trying to live what I was talking about. I'm trying
to live that.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
He even had a g I Jane g I Jane
on the Road Ultimate Role Warrior.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I remember pulling up at at forty forty in the
in the in the Lincoln navigated the joint with when
the joints the first came out, this was running out
with running boards, the running balls the first and I
know this, I seek them.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
I had three white bitches. I had three white girls
in the car.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Excuse me, I had three white okay women in the car.
And Tata said, you ain't never changed.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I knew, I knew what was going I respected him.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yo. It was crazy. I knew it was different. We
went to some part.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I don't know where we was at, but my man
pulled up with two joints with him and.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
He had on the white mink in the club.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
It was like a white mink in the club with
the milk of magnesias.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
What ain't doing over there? And then I'm talking to
my guy, You said, Lak, I'm not just Wise. Pano
boy said, what's up? God? What's going on? Wise? The pimp?
And then this is the birth of why is the piss? Yeah?
But those days is over. We're not doing those no more. Okay, No,
it happens, God, pimping came. I went through. Don Wall

(24:10):
was pimping. Yeah, I went through a little you know,
I thought I was pimping that one time. Yoh, I
had making easy money. This I tried. I tried.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Rest of my cousin Don Aleino. You know, he showed
me the ropes. I pimped for one day, yo, dead ass.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
One day word I had a twenty four hour run.
One day word up. I got down there.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
It was like, damn, I know the hoes and the tricks.
I gotta get out together.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
I about Twig.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I'm out, tag me out, tag me out with Yo.
You had your run, tell me about your run.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yes it was. It wasn't twenty four hours. Yeah no, No,
I had nice one. Man.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
I can't be you know now in that situation. I
used to just let the bit hey figure that ship out.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
But you.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
You dropped that whatever happened, Like, let's go back a
little bit, because I want to know, like why your
album never because y'all had the super super dope smoker
record with Joe Rude blazing on the radios everywhere on
all the Clue tapes.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
You were smoking, marbling you on the j album, my.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Album, and we dropped a major classic that's underground and
what could be better? Bitch, oh my God, like oh Jesus,
that was with just pleasing that it was supposed to
be gone.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Like I always wondered, like what delayed the album? Like
you know, what I mean from ever happening.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I think, I think, and I'm gonna say this this
might be controversial. I think at the time we got
to death Jab. First of all, I shouldn't remember Rockefeller
should have never been remember part of fact.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
No man, no, no, no, no, no, no no. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
It was still but I remember you said something to
me one day, you said, and it was it was brilliant.
He was younger than me, and I was like, this,
motherfucker is brilliant.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
You said to me.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
I never let other ship get in the way of
what I got going on overhead, you know what I'm saying.
And and like you know, I was so be High
as my brother to this day and I love behind
and and at that moment be how I didn't really
he didn't really vibe with Dame Nope, exactly ever, and

(26:27):
I used.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
To always figure. I would always say, how did that?
How did that work? And out of loyalty, we was.
I loved High. I'm like, I'm with I'm with you, bro,
whatever you want to do, I'm with you, yes, and
I and that's that's how we that's how we rolled.
But I really did want to be with with the Rock,
you know. What I'm saying, But it's a different animal

(26:50):
he was.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, he was a different at that time.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
And I knew be High had my protection and I
knew he was gonna take care of me.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
So when we went.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Over there with a good deal, you know what I'm saying,
deal mad money got a big deal and I have
no regrets for that. But uh, I think we got
there at a time like when Kevin Lowles and Leo
Kohn was trying to leave and go to Warner Brothers.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Remember how they made that move.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Remember they started everything, you know, and they just started
putting as much people out that they knew would sell
and everybody knew it. Remember even Music so Child left.
We got signed the same time Music so Chal got signed.
We was doing the ones with him.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I didn't even know that that ass and that the
music laugh. I remember when Music Soul Child got signed.
They that's when they dropped the Remember they had the
Death Jam iPod the rock box. They tried to give
out that exactly, Yeah, because y'all song was on it. Yeah,
it was his album, y'all song, another jazz song, James song.
And I'm like giving out iPods at Death Jam. We

(27:55):
did his song a remix with Janelle was Janelle Moe name,
what would you not want to? Well just John now
to that or whatever, and we did like a me
mix to her ship and it got into rotation in
like Pittsburgh and in Boston and all that shit, and
then they death chair my label cut it, said no

(28:21):
and then put method Man on the record, which beasts
the guard.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I love myth, but put.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Him on the record because he at that time probably
was you know, he was super popping and they need
to look for it.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yes, that's how the industry do it. You know, they'll
be like, let's I'm like you we got it rocking like,
let us rock like and.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Then we could come behind that exactly.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
And that's crazy. That's why I always wondered. I'm like,
I had the records, I had the heat, you had
the team, Like I always wondered, what what the fuck happened?

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Be how it was fighting? And it's so crazy you
bring up for it's crazy you.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Bring up the behind dang relationship because remember be Hoigh
manage both of us, and I was signed the Rockefella
and I used to tell be how yo when we
need certain ship be how I used to be not
talking today. I'm not going up there. Let's be like alright,
cool though i'm'a call hole. He be like, yeah, you
better tell Hope cause i'm'a slap shit out of somebody.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
And you know he wasn't playing the man I am today.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
I always credit be High for that, Bro, because when
we got signed, you know, we was all on the
road together, running around doing shows. I remember when be
How it was like, Yo, any show you get booked,
you gotta let why is it have come out and
open the show or perform with you however we do it.
And remember I was like, I never let my bros
open for me. We gonna put them in the middle

(29:48):
of the show. So it's like we performed together. And
be How was always on us, Bro, Like I wonder
what was he on you the same way he was
on me, Cause he used to always be on me,
like if you ain't five minutes early, you ten minutes late.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Oh no, he was definitely on me, like definitely on me,
and and and and if I have to say anything,
I have to say, help me.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Growing to the man that came later to because credit
him to Bro, because he was he was on it.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Early, early, early.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
He was the first one talking about buying up property properties,
that's your money.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
They they call it nothing. What do you call him?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
The the Brownstone was the first one on it, bro
on it. And I'm like, the fucks talking about bitch
is over here?

Speaker 1 (30:43):
This more fuck trying to buy property. Get out of it.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, as I was, I was like this, My fucker
helped raise me.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, man, I knew, I knew b was different. We
went on the trip the Bahamas one time and I'm
in the pool wild just you know, like yo high,
what you doing?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Nigga went on, vin can enjoy.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
We made a little bit of money and that nigga
was like nah, and so what you gonna do then,
Like I said, I'm gonna sit here and I'm gonna
read a book. So you're gonna sit at the pool
and read a book? He said, yeah, cause while you swimming,
I'm gonna learn how to take over the business when
we get back.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Man, I'm like, Damn Cole, he's a cold piece of.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Bro I'm telling piece of work.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
So I always wondered, like, how y'all, how y'all even
the relationship? When did y'all even cross paths? Would be
cause I I, I don't know when I.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Met be High.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
He's Jay cousin I grew up. I always just known them.
So how did you meet be High? Well, okay, let'll
tell you this right now. We're gonna get the cameras going.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Jay Runner MM last name is Stout, but he's also
a Carter and Williams on the other side.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Could you imagine being connected? You didn't know the hold
Lord away. I knew he was jaying them, cousin. Yeah,
I found out put the connection to fucking kidding me.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
This nigga has the best of both world. And you
know we used to tell me your don't really fuck
with my family, nigga, you fucking crazy world. Take me
to Marsie. I used to come to mars I used
to go to. They used to have the long sleeve
of Long John's on and be rapping and I was

(32:32):
rapping and we was like, and that's how we connecting us?

Speaker 2 (32:36):
How I met with because How was always around always.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Man, that's crazy. I am, Are you fucking crazy? Yo?

Speaker 2 (32:44):
We gotta get Jay Runner, Jay Runner, getting you out
of retirement. Dog, I need them beats pull out. We
back in the lib again. Joe I seen recently. I
don't know who out of your crew run the Ranger's page,
but they released the we recorded there we recorded a
minute ago. When I heard it, I'm like, I remember

(33:06):
we did that song in your Crib.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
I didn't even remember this song.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I remember the day we did it. I remember the
day we did that record. Bro, that's what I remember that.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I'm like, remember we did.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
We did that ship in your Crib and Crown Heights.
Why did y'all hold that heat?

Speaker 1 (33:26):
We didn't. We didn't have in those days.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
You didn't have the opportunity to to release things like that,
and we didn't have a road to advance the records.
But uh, if I had a chance, I would have released.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
It's crazy that the Rangers never dropped the album. But
why is Peter Pimp? Oh yeah, he dropped a few albums.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Oh yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Shout out to Static Selected Terminology. They've been rocking with
me and and and showing me love and letting me
live and they gave me a new life in hip
hop when when everybody kind of like wasn't like they
was like, you know, you know, because because the biggest
deal was I'm gonna tell you that this is gonna

(34:15):
fuck you up. The biggest deal was when I used
to go to labels. Remember the record I had with
se Lo Green produced by Primo, Big Record, Big Record.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
I went overseas to it all that.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
I would go to labels and they would say, and
you didn't you didn't win with Rap the Fellow, then
no way that. That was the famous line. If you
can't win with the hottest record label, what can we
do for you?

Speaker 1 (34:47):
That's why? And I was like, damn.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
So, so you know when when when Static selected and
embraced me and the underground kind of embraced me, you
know what I'm saying, You know, shout out to Ben
all the cats that now.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Show me love, and definitely shout out to the whole
Buffalo man rap scenes. I just told them boys, they
over there, man, you're facturing rappers because now they got
stove God cooks. Yeah, come on, man, these guys are
doing up there. Man, these niggas got a plant for
rappers up there.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Well, we gotta kind of we gotta kind of take
some blame. They've been doing some some shit up there
that we ain't been doing down here.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
They definitely found a formula and they just been like,
get busy. That's what you're speaking on though that it's
underground ship, man, just doing it. So I just embraced it.
I'm like, you know, what the fuck it, I'm just
go here. I'm gonna go right.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
To the underground and do my thing, you know what
I'm saying, and have my fun down here. Yeah, I
ain't up there, and there's no draking none of that ship.
But I'm down here, and I got respect for my
peers and and and being busy always.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Bro, you're one of the illness lyricists. Like I say, said, man,
I got bought. Ain't too many rappers in this game
that came to that studio that I would take some
bars from that time of your bleak. You got the eye.
I got this line for you right here. Come on, bro,
you one of them, like you know what I mean?
So only Jay, you and Beans ever gave me a

(36:19):
ball in Google shout out Google to Google gave me
a bottle Google like that.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
You shouldn't say it like that. You should say it
like that. You should wrap you got it, spit that ship, nigga.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
But you know the great thing about Jay, since you
mentioned him like he was on the ground too. Yes,
he started on he made it to the next level. Said,
but he's an underground ball heavy get busy.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
That's what he remember.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Bro, We used to be a five sixty state street
like I said again.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
And man it beat us in the crib. Oh see,
like come on, Bro.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
To have niggas like that around big as hell, God
bless Bro.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
You had to be a real spinner that he had
to get busy. You couldn't.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Oh, c was destroying ship, like you had to get busy,
this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
And didn't think he had us around.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
So that's why I always knew it was something that
he felt special about us, that it was there that
we could capture this ship.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
And I would never be upset at that. And like
like we didn't even know about bars. We used to
be writing like two bars.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
I ain't know how to count yo, war sixteen. We
didn't even know what sixteen raight up.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
I go to somebody and be like, yo, look at
the page, Wait the sixteenth bar. They'd be like, oh,
it's right here. Believe you stopped right here, like you
ain't lying. We ain't know how to count bars. But
out of everything is that out of everything you saw,
everything you've been through, is it you have any regrets
in music that you feel like, damn.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
I should have I should have did this.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
To have it, regrets or anything that you just feel
like you let slip through your heads that you just
took lightly.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
I ain't gonna say regret. We don't regret nothing. We're
street niggas. Anything that you took too lightly that you
feel like you should have been more serious, hut the
game lightly?

Speaker 3 (38:15):
M I thought I thought I was. I thought I
was bigger than what I was I was. When I
look back at it, I feel like I was trying
to even with the PM shit, Like I was trying
to like have the bitches and.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Have the money and have the fame, and I wasn't famous.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
I wasn't poppet. Fuck is you doing like I should
have been? I should have been more around you, viado one,
I should have been just doing.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
That, like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
I should have never let anything get in between that.
But nothing got in between. We never had no issue.
You just went your way. We everybody went they way
they way.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
I should do. I should have went this way like
you was on your milk and magnetism.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Guy, I was of our milk that I was seeing
money and I'm seeing cars and.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Had the house and Joe. We were so young.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
That's why I tell people twenty four today, twenty one today,
twenty years old today is a different than a twenty
a twenty year old to a twenty four year old
back in ninety because you can see what you can
be today.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Think you can look on the gram as a twenty oh.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Or no or I could get the Bentley, I could
get the crib, I could get this.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
We had no clue. There was no one doing these things.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
So when we got the bread, it was like, oh,
were the first ones to do this, Let's go do it.
So buying big cribs, buying stupid jewelry housing, I'm doing
that without her record. I'm like, yo, bro, yeah, it's
gonna come back, like but they just gave me this
for this, It's gonna come back like.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
One thing I wanted.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
To always ask you too, did you ever like mentor
any artists? Because you was a dope lyricist, and I
feel like sometimes if it don't work for you, you
can be a writer for others.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Well excuse me, Well, you know Honestly, I have to
be happier where my career is now its wisp because
I still get the tour, the method man red mentor
before I went in.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
And or I'm still I'm blessed to be at this
age and even be relevant.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
That's you know what I'm saying. However, I do try.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
To take care of who's coming up next, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
I got an artist name the Op out.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Of Mayada, That's what's Yeah, shout out to her.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
I'm working with her right now. Yep, oh shit from Brooklyn. No,
she from Miami Gardens.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
De go out from Miami Guards. We gotta check you out.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Uh, we're doing that.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
And that's me and they actually, so we're working on
that together. And it's a bunch of young artists that
I'm trying to develop because you know why, and this
is gonna this is gonna touch you a little bit
because I feel like we let the next generation. Now,
remember when we was young and if you skip school,

(41:36):
like you had to fight everybody on the block and
then go home and get beat by your moms too.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
That's a fact you had a gun from certain people.
I feel like our error, we got so caught up
in the bag because the era before us didn't get
the bag that we left to the.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Young cats out and now we're wondering why they're acting
so crazy when we instilled nothing in them.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
But they getting the major bag, they getting.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
The super the artist though, But I'm talking about the
kids in the streets. Oh yeah, no, they don't got
no manners, no nothing. It's because the ain't nobody there.
It's the drugs, bro, it's the drugs combined with the music.
It ain't even about.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I feel like you had your artists back in the
day that spoke that wisdom into these kids and out there,
these kids don't listen to their parents. Can why they
gonna listen to us. We had dudes on the block, though,
it's no more dudes on the block, cameras on the block.
The block is gentrified that.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I feel like that's on us, Like while.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
We not, we're supposed to show these kids how to
get money. See, back in that day, it was only
two ways to get money. Either you did it the
legal way or you did it the illegal way. Today, bro,
it's a million ways to get money and you don't
have to be illegal. You could be legal. Bro, think
about it. We have delivery guys on rollerblades. I ordered

(43:03):
some food and the nigga pulled up on skates, Like,
come on, bro, if a nigga eskate to me with
a order, there's no reason why these young boys gotta
do what they do.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Bro, there's too many opportunities now to get money. They
hiring for any.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Uber drivers, Lyft drivers like delivery like them, But delivery
guys in our day, Bro, they just was on the
bike in the ring with a backpack.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
They wasn't bringing you no Domino's order.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
And if you come in the building, we might just
take it and just never pay you.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
That's a fact, Bro, you're kidding me.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Nigga order the food to the next door neighbor house
and when we see you knocking on the door, now,
now get that up. Let me get that like. That's
how we came up. So I feel like the opportunities
now for the kids is there.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
So I ain't gonna say it's on us.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
I feel like we could have held a little bit
more responsibility.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
But it's definitely not our fault. Bro.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
We was reckless niggas. No one taught us, no one
to thinking about it. We got money. They never told
us what to do with the money. They told us flaws, flaws.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Only one person was telling us what to do and
we wasn't listening.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Was be high, Yo, I was gonna say the same
straight up, telling us niggas that damn this nigga told
me everybody else was Yo, you.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Went to see Jacob. They ain't going to Jacob yet
that was the ship Bro's not Yo, go get the crib.
All of that.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
I feel like it was many opportunities I left on
the table. So that's why I asked you that question, like, so,
what correct.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
What's new? What's next in the plans for Wise Peter Pimp? Oh? Man?

Speaker 3 (44:43):
You know me, Man, I'm still I'm still moving man.
I got uh the bunch of albums come in man
looking fredial Star, which is amazingly in ses he's producing,
just producing on it and he's dope. And then I
gotta I'm coming with Static Selector shout Out and a

(45:04):
bunch of different We did a joint off.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
The same beat, who Me and you? What joint? Who
was the joint you did?

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Was the joint with you and in Dezzer and Oh
and Bennie and Bennie you had the same beat me and.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Sauce No way, yes, damn beat I was stole niggas
beat her.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
No, it's just that's how and yeah and in our
ears here the same thing. And that's what I was
when I when I listened to.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
It, I'm like, damn, you know, my man, still we
on the.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Same way, you know what I'm saying to get back
in the game, just to I felt like this album
and I drop.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
I was happy for that. By the way, let me
catch you off real quick. I was happy for you.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I definitely wanted you to come back. I definitely did too.
But I just felt like at the state in life
that I'm in, mind state that I'm in, bro like,
I didn't want to come back just spitting ignorance because
it's nothing I do that's ignorant in my life. I
don't make dumb decisions anymore.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
You know, I'm not walking around.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
The guns is license, the weedst license, the liquor is legal, like,
so we're not doing none of that. So I felt like,
if I wanted to, I told my dog cheat because
he was like, yo, man, you left your fans hanging.
You just left us with an album. You never dropped
nothing to you know, to give us your exit album.
All you know, we grew older. You ain't tell us
how to how you grew older. And I'm like, damn, damn,

(46:37):
that was heavy. Right, You're right, he is right. I left,
you know, so if I felt like it was my
job to come back and let people know what we're
doing on the positive side, that you can't get older
and still be lit without doing dumb shit.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
I was happy. I was happy.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
I appreciate it, but I was like, this is this
is the greatest ever good.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
You know what I'm saying. My man is back to it.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Man, word up, man shit, y'all should have called wise
p got some of them bars you that have me
with more pharaohs in Egypt Ya.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
I'm telling you certain lines.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
As a kid, I used to be like, Nigga gave
me a bar and I don't even know what it mean.
But I was like, I didn't want to sound like
the dumb nigga in the studio and be like, yo, feel,
what's your pharaoh in Egypt? It's like Nigga to shit,
sad hot fuck it. Even the J line on where
he gave me coming to age, I didn't know what
equilibrium was. It was fucking fourteen years old. It was

(47:33):
like equilibrium, whatever the fuck that means.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
I'm just say it.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
That way the way he said it.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
But like, is it any artist you're mentoring now, besides
the female artists side of Miami and the guys out
of New York.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
H my man took my man Tookie, he out at
Brooklyn talking to him and and to be honest with you,
it's a lot of artists that kind of already have
names that I already I speak to and talk to
you know what I mean, and and and be cool
with them and and talk to them and let them

(48:09):
know not only the traps, let them know, like you know,
how you can get around things and get and and
and I get to see them flourish more than me.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Sometimes I'll be like, goddamn, I told you some sing it.
Now you you win it, super winned.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
How do you feel about the music scene in Brooklyn? Now?

Speaker 2 (48:33):
You know, to be honest with you, it's a scene. Yeah,
it's really going on.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
You know, own the studio in Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Wait me in turn.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Statics, Oh yeah, that's the same same He's got one
next door and me in tern on one next door.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
And so I'm always around like different artists, you know.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
And I don't want to say any name because I
won't lean nobody out.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
But like you know, cause niggas get me why you
ain't say why you ain't showing me, I'll be out
there too.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
But yeah, I'm always around, man, and I'm to be
honest with you. I'm happy because because with the with
the wave music is going now, you could just rap
that's right. You don't gotta look for that. Remember we
used to have to look for that hit. Remember how
stressful that was.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
That's what I tell yo. I be jealous that sh
it was stressful, bro.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I'm be jealous of these kids the way they just
get to go and just talk.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Freely, bag up.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
They just say this on this record, and they repeat
it on that record, and niggas like, Yo, it's hotter now,
Like yo.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
What they can use the same title or another motherfucker
use they can use the same beating motherfucker you just.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yo, bro.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I'm telling you, I feel you, bro, because I would
tell you a story right the first artist that I
ever I ain't never been jealous of no artists I've
been happy for all of y'all do y'all thing.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
I wish you the best.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
But there's one artist who made me jealous, and he
was a home team oh shit. And it wasn't cause
of his money, cause of his fame, none of that.
It was just cause where he had the power to do.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
J Cole bro.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
J Cole was the first artist in the history of
life he gets busy that I ever been jealous of.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
And it wasn't even because of a rap.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
It was because of a situation like you saying how
we had to look for the hit? How we bro
we in the studio right Kanye Hove and Kanye had
a beat for Cole and joe Ja was like, I
ain't gonna front call. I think that shit to one.
You should fuck with that, and Cole was like, Nah,
that's shit fire, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
I don't. I don't think that's the record. I'm the
direction I wanna.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Go in Right there, I sat back, like, let me
see where it's gonna go. He was like, yeah, we
got the Workout record. That was his first single on
his first album. He was like, I wanna go with
the Workout single you know by and a stud like, Yo,
that's a dope record, but I don't know if it's

(51:03):
a single.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
He like, yo, I don't care. That's what I feel.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
I'm like, I never had that power, yeah, because they'll
been like, little nigga, gon shit the fuck down?

Speaker 1 (51:15):
You just say so.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
So right there, I was like, I don't know if
I like this nigga.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Then the record come out right four million later and
it went tours everywhere, and I said that mother the
old bro. Sometimes as a young nigga, I feel like
the older niggas just don't listen to you, and you
don't and when you got certain ties, you're not in
a position to try to make them because they'll be like,
all right, little nigg go home.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Hole was he wasn't. He ain't have that umbrella, that tie.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
So he was like, I'd rather if I'm a die
on the on the stage, I'm aa die by my decision.
And I always respected that. So that's the one thing
that I felt like I never had in my career.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
I was no say so because it was the depression, bro.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
When we was coming up depression for that single, Bro,
I wasn't crazy.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
I didn't want to perform myth Bleakers at Summer Jam.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
You know, I thought myth Bleakers was trash.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
I recorded the record with Swiss and all that, and
I'm like, man, this shit came out cool. And Jay like, yeah,
this is gonna be the first single because we was
gonna pick out of what you think of that hour myth
Bleaker is and he like this the first single.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
I'm like, nah, hold, I don't know. We did.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Me and Lenny came up with this, but I don't know.
He was like why, It's like Nigga. I don't think
Nigga's gonna be saying my name. It's like, bro, you
a bugget, You're doing this shit at Summer Jim. I'm like, no, man,
we did it and shit work, bro like work, Like
is it any moment in hip hop where you doubted
something and you felt like.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
I don't know?

Speaker 2 (52:52):
And then shit, just I did a record with uh uh.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
DJ Premier.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Shot shout out the prem shout out the pre Uh,
and I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
If it was gonna work.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Mmm record yeah, well listen, listen, listen. I felt like
I didn't do him justice. I felt like, whatether what
I did on it wouldn't do him justice because I'm
look up to him so much.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
That record took me on tour. K or crazy, that's
how it goes. Man, that's crazy that it happened like that. Man,
it was called you see, and you just did the
tour where rad and what it was.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
But that was twenty fifteen at the tour Rand and
math and went away.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
But then you just come on and off of tour somewhere.
I seen you doing a couple of shows with somebody.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Yeah. I was running around with Turn for a little bit. Yeah,
I knew I've seen that.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Man.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
How was that? Yeah? Man? What cities y'all here on
that joint?

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Oh? Man, it was mostly the Northeast, in Boston, New Hampshire.
I love the Boston Run, the ninety five South Run
starting Boston and in Miami. Shit, the best run ever.
I'm a ninety five baby. It's so I made that
record ninety five baby, Yo, you ain't lying. I will

(54:27):
leave your ass, holler will leave you. I was just
telling a story about that on how when we went
the waffle house on the road. Remember we had a
radio interview. I think we was in Maryland at this
time too, and we had a radio interview. It's all
of us. I don't think y'all wanted nothing, because remember
you was on your guard. They cook everything on the
swans and all the swan everything on the same stove.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
I don't want none of that guard. Nigga's like, Okay,
we gonna go get something right back. So why isn't
them already? Was in the car.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
I come back with my food. That nigga be how
like you got your food? I'm like, yeah, He's like
that what we're waiting for? We don't ready. I don't
want to interview them niggas, they ain't on you. And
Nigga jumped in the be driving Let's go.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Be high was with that ship. He was like, handle
your business. But it made me a man like, it
made me understand the importance of being a man. He
always used to say to me, man like, nobody nobody
want to pay.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
You to wait on you.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
They paying you handle your job in a professional matter
of time because then they don't want you to come back.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
He definitely was heavy on that man shout out, shout
out to Yo, the best.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
The best man at you ever, bro, I swear man.
I was mad when be how stop fucking with me?
He knew, yeah, no, b how just let us go.
He knew we was young and wilding and bugging, and
we stopped listening.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Niggas is like we're too old. We like I had to.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
The goons are a nigga like, No, I believe it's
time I let you fly on your old dog. I
can't be going on the road with you no more.
Y'all niggas don't listen. Y'all crazy. You're on your own
cause and they ain't get me.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
No, you're not.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Usually you do signed termination pair. I never got terminated nothing.
That ship was just one of those hood hey dog.
The prices went up and we ain't serving you no more.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
More. Bricks went up ten grand do.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
I heard they're gonna let the Africa on me. Word bro,
you ever took one of the African trips would be.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
No, I want to go. I was just too I
was just just Najamian chick. But I mean you can't. No, no,
you win milk and Magnesia again. If you had then
Jerry and Joy, then you just came back. I fucked
with you.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
You back, baby, you back the real wives. Pe is
fucking I want to go, She said. The trip is
like twelve.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
I was, yeah, no matter.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
I look, bro, listen, we're from where you could have
died empty in the garbage. I'm putting my life on
that plane. The niggas say, Yo, Bleek was on his
way to tie Lad.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
How long the flair?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
They never gonna say how long the flight was. They're
gonna say that nigga was on his way to ball.
Now if they be like Bleek got clear, people was
at the liquor store.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
What's the first thing gonna say, Wayne was doing that
the liquor So you know, have God forbid.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
If shit go down, let me and go down and
enjoying life baby, as he should, you know, as you should.
Don't be scared of them hours on the plane, but
you need that Africa trip.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
I just want to feel what it feel like.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
It's a god, it's a difference. It's a different feeling, bro,
When you land and everybody looked just like you and
they welcome you home like welcome like.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
It's a different feeling. Bro.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I got a story about Africa though, and I been
all over the planet, but yet up in Africa. My
first time going to Africa was with Jay on the
Water for Life tour and they sent out emails because
you know he was with the un So they sent
out emails to everybody basically outlining everything that you could do,

(58:16):
that that you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Stay with the group, don't don't be outlined with the.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Security, make sure you you know if you then if
you want to veer off to the store center, you
let somebody no tour leaders all this, and then it
gets to the shit could go down section watch out
for the militia. It's like, all right, cool, we got
a few of those in Marcy. Watch out Like it's

(58:41):
like yo, watch out for you know, anybody trying to
pick pocket you or offer you some goods for exchange
for money. It's like, all right, cool, we got that
in Man, it's nothing. But then it get to something
we didn't have landminds out for Lambmark. I had to

(59:02):
read it twice exactly, like literally lank. Yeah, it's like
watch y'all for landmns. So I go to the office,
I see whole of your whole my nigga. I'm with
all the funck shit, my nigga everything, bro, But what
the fuck is this the militia. We got some of
those pickpockets and scammers all my no string ab niggas

(59:26):
all good.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
This right out landmarks my nigga. I don't think I
want to go to Africa. Why why are we going
with my nigga like we gangs we do.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
I can't protect us from I can't see it ain't
Its like bleak.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
You really think it's gonna be a fucking land?

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Mind? Where we going there? They gonna no Wenesday. They're
just telling you what's out there. I said, I know,
but what if it's out there when we get out there?
He was like, nah, man, I'm like with the militia too.
How about the militia different than our militia.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
He was like, Yo, they militia love us. Man, we brothers.
They gonna love us when we get there. Trust me, yo.
He be knowing ship in the advance. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
And when we got there, the motherfucker's like, my niga,
you my brother, we love you. Welcome home, my nigga.
A nigga say nigga hard too. I'm never asking to
do your wife say niggas like they say, because you
say nigga every song you say nigga, show me say nigga.
I'm like, yo, but you're saying it like offensive. He like,

(01:00:35):
how me offensive nigga?

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
You say nigga your song, we say nigga. Now, no
offensive nigga. Yo, I'm like, fuck it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
You right, that's I fucking love Africa. You have to
go bro and so much. I gotta got so much information, you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Know, vibe with your people.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
You know, even still though, you know, even when I
went you know, Scotland and in Sweden, I mean I
had sex with a blonde and a dann in bed.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
That was that was that one? Yo? Wait? Wait, ain't
a Tanning bad? How that happened?

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
You came out and called complexion. You definitely came out, motherfucker.
You just need a little bit of raised nigga. You black,
and she's gonna get you in car.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Yo. Hey, let me tell you the other story.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Right, so so so so so we gotta we gotta layover, right,
you're ready for this. We gotta layover right before we
go to the spot, right, and before we go to
next wipe. We gotta layover. So I met this white dude.
You know, I'm performing about to say white girls. You

(01:01:52):
said no, white dude, I'm performing on stage and I'm
like yo, and like I'm like, Yo, we gotta layover, like,
you know, where can we go hang out?

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
You know what I'm saying. I got you, I got you,
I got you. You're like, yeah, that's see. Here's the
here's the fucked up part. He took you to a
Jamaican party.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
You know, the white guys bump up, they know what
the spots. Me know, he takes me to a spot
and when we walk in, the people in the spot
say he can't come in here.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
How he on the no fly list? That's crazy, Yo,
I witted nigga that it's bad. I'm winded. Motherfucker who
was bad? Yo? But nah, he was bad from the
first spot.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
One thing I'm gonna tell you, I said this on
my second album.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
You listen to me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
The white guys, they can listen to my ship. I
don't give two fucks because they're shoot ship up. But
I'm telling you I got that illness my nigga poozo.
When I tell you a nigga white take you to
the black party from from no from right here in Jersey,
from Jersey.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
When you get to we.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
In his cossack, he let us use you know, or
his wine exclusive.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
You know my God Pools, that's what. That's what. If
you hang with Pools, He'll take you to a Yardy party.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
How you somewhere like yard We outside, like, what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
He fuck with the chef, Michael, the chef heat Gramy Gates.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
I ain't know that you the only white boy part
of Gramy Gates.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
How.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
I don't even know how you got initiated. But that's
what I'm saying. Don't sleep on the white boys. White
boy that was bad.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Yeah, he was on some gangster ship. He took me
the two balls. He was man from one and to
the third one. We got in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
I'm in Scotland. Everybody else went back to the hotel.
I think you was with white boy. I think you
met white boy. Everybody else went back to the hotel.
I'm out thetting Dolus in Scotland.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
YO.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Talking about white Boy brings me to Detroit. Is there
any city that you ever felt like, damn, these.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Niggas, I don't know. These niggas look like they are
some gangster Chicago, Yo, dun deal.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
You ain't even we gotta keep talking Chicago.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
I don't even want to wear a hat because you
never know what said, it is, yo, just no hat.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
They pulled out a gun on us in McDonald's for
that in McDonald's. Bro, my first to know in Chicago.
In McDonald's ordering a little quarter panel with cheese. Nigga like, hey, nigga,
turn your fucking hat straight. He had the blicky out
in McDonald's. So I'm like, what hat you crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
What hat like? Turn out like what that?

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
He's like, Nigga, you in Chicago East Side represent a
different gang. If you don't know where you at, don't
wear no motherfucker hat. That's a fact that nigga. I
left the hat in the crib.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
That's right. The first show I did with no hat,
yo yo yo.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
I was on the I was on the upper it
was on the the Befo man Redman So and I
went to Chicago and niggas was like your way you
had like this like this the way let's not.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
You know what I'm telling you?

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
That ship serious real, that's Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Shout out all my j's in the side, Chicago, bird up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
I done met one of the homies though out there
and he showed me the shot like nah dog we
outside my dog, big roady out there shout out big
roady boy. The shot is beautiful, twister, all them guys
man like, we don't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Make history and the shot baby got it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
But I definitely got the blinky pulled out on me
and McDonald's world.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
It was like, hey, you better know where you at.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
I got when I got on the bus and I'm
just like I was the I mean the buster what
you call it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
And I was like, what's your favorite city?

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
To performing favorite city? Damn? I love Connecticut, but mmm,
but I would have to say.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Virginia, Virginia, Virginia. It's between Virginia and Boston.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
That's hip hop. Boston is hip hop vs hip hop.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
They love bars, they love you know, I'm not commanding, no,
you know, three thousand room, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
You know, bro, don't matter one million. The vibe is there. Yeah,
but I'm like, they love bars. So Virginia your top top?
I go Virginia and Boston.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
That's what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
What's WISEP Top five all time hip hop spinners? Couple
of man's don't do that, man, everybody got the top five?
What's your top five?

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Dad or alive? Damn? Fuck? That's right. I know you're
five different. Number one veto. Okay, hold what he gave me.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
He gave me love and I love him and he's
definitely one of the dopest.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
Number two. Damn, God, damn, that's tough. Rock camp. I
gotta go rock Guard the Guard, seventh flatter. You know
what I'm saying. Oh sho, believe it or not, Pharaoh
March that boy, get busy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
I knew your top five Ie get busy, number three,
number four.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Black Thought, he gets super business.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Come on, bro, they just sat here a million times
better than Hope.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Who said that? Where I am where he should? I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
You don't get he don't even get it. I don't
know why his voice I am saying, why, Okay, shout out.
So all I want to hear is that you found.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Fergie and if you found I want to see this.
I want to hear some music. Do tell me who
better than who? Five?

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Fine? Yeah, I agree with that. So that's four right?

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Yeah you said so well, I am in there. No
shout after.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
You said whole Rock, kim Phireah Marx, Black Black Thought,
and number five.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
I'm gonna go with Sean Price.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Oh that's right. They said hold the best, but Sean
Price is nice. That's heard.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
I love Listen, that's my cousin man.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Since a kid, I remember the Deceptor cars moving through Brooklyn's.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Yo. Did you just hear what he said?

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Listen when all my cousins foundation right, all my cousins
was in the Sceptor cant like foundation like purple.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
That's why his.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Name was rough rockets like them boys used to put
me on with the bars do everything bro like I
missed cause like no other man. I wish I could
have got the work with Cosmo often.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Man, I still have a video of me performing with him.
And what was that DC?

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Right? It was in d C. And he pulled me
on stage.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Because he did like some ship and I redid it
to show him like love and reception and he was
like come on, I'm like, I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
He's like just man. He was just like that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
He was just so a funny ass nigga will joke
you to death. Oh man, funny ass nigga big.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
As his hands. He'd be like your wise I punched
through car buss, Yeah, yo, fucking hole.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
We was at the show in Germany and I'm like, yo,
I'm gonna go get my Cousin's like, you got a
cousin in Germany. I'm like, nah, nigga, my cousin down
here performing. He like, who I like Sean Price. He's like,
that's your cousin. I'm like yeah, Man's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Like that was like your blood. Yeah, Bro, like we
grew up together.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Me steal from Smith and Wesson rock my cousin Team White.
My text still, Bro, this is that's family, Like Buck
shot all In even Bro, I grew up with these
niggas in the East. Used to be a self flow
rockaway project.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Bro. Shout out the seth flo projects.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Brown, shout out the Plaza.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Man, shout out the br C, Nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
If niggas never played Street Fighter and Coney Allen Jones,
you wasn't outside.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
It's just a fact. Belt you wasn't outside.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
If you never shot basketball in the br C, wasn't outside.
It's just a fact. Don't be mad at who I am.
They still do over there, but yeah, Man, Noville was different.
Man shout out to the fam still in Tech. You
already know Smith and Wesson fucking rocking rock man.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Healter skelter Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
I remember when they picked me up when that album
first drop no turner we went. I was on the
promo run with them on that and that that's a family.
They don't understand, bro thirteen Yo, I'm telling you, BROD,
I had all like I had, Like it's almost like
how you said about Ja Runner where he had both sides.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
I had both sides because I had.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
To attachment to the underground through them, and then I
had the side with Jay. But it was always like
Jay was trying to get on. They was already on.
Dan was booming since ninety two ninety one when Buckshot
and fucking Evil d drop, Like that was my ship, nigga,
Like you just took it back where it was like

(01:12:15):
dang Bigga showing price right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
That's that love right there. That's what's up, my nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
You got you just took You gotta be stunk with
that one because I knew your list was gonna be different.
I think it's wise mingled with everybody man like you
fuck with all the real spinners man. And I always
respected that about you. You kept to the culture and
hip hop alive. Like a lot of people try to
talk that shit, but they don't walk it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
You do both.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
And I always respected that about you. You never changed
or try to be something you not. You always stayed grounded,
always stay true to your niggas. Think how many groups
break up you and have still bros to this day.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
I just wish that y'all could have got the shine
that y'all got with us internally because to everybody in
the crew, remember when y'all came around.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Niggas knew it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
You go to rangers, them them spinnersgas better.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
How y'all fucking ship together.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
And that's the great thing about right now, Like like
like you said, like I stay in tune like it's
funny because the rappists.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Know who's who, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
They fans know what they know. But the spin us,
they when they see you, they do that guy you
They got that guy respect. They know that, and that's
that's that's all of us.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Once I get that, it's all that matter. That's a fact.
I always say that, bro G. And I feel like
like when it comes down to the spinners, the fans
they go by what they see on TV the videos.
So if you ain't really put out a bunch of videos,
they don't know. But us in this in this art form,

(01:13:58):
there's no.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Way to put it in off on me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
You know, it's like it's like being a master, you know,
boxing or karate specially, and you don't know who could
kick the.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Funk out of your punch your ad off.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
You know, you watch out for sure that you got
that hug watch for this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
They gonna kick you, so your head off your shoulders.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
In this business, I feel like they know they put
a warning posts up on you. Act wise, p official
Spinner bounty on his head.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Don't get smoked. That's how it goes. That definitely is
what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Man, and I and and and and and I can't
I feel marvelous about that. And I'm just like, Okay,
I did what I came to do. And then like
I wake up at seven am and Narrow would be
like my phone ring and then him and he'd be like,

(01:14:56):
I'm like, you don't even say hello, you just get
straight to spin.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Sauce always been like that, man, I tell niggas all
the time. I remember seeing Sauce on the projects as
a kid. This is after this, after we did celebration too,
so you know gave me. I thought I was super nice,
like tense speed weedy old niggas can't fuck with me now.
Watch so I sing Sauce working through. I'm like, what out, Nigga,
You ain't Jay think you better than me? You can't

(01:15:21):
fuck with me, Nigga, I'll burn you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
I'm that hole.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Bro, we're talking to Sauce like Nigga, who's gonna know?
I'm the real nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
I'm what You're like? What I ain't saying? Spin some ships,
ain't dad.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
I'm like, I spin my little sheet like that shuit dope, Bro,
Nigga spin a verse.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
This is This is before he put it on the tape.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
This when he was like, niggas think they Chinese the
way they ducked Sauce.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
I heard that verse before the raw, before the whole world. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
That nigga made me feel like the nigga in Last Dragon.
My nigga straight up looking at that nigga like, Yo, Bro,
teach me some moves, Bruise, teach me some moves.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Word.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
I went to the studio with Saurs that that at
that day and we did the song together.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
You know, we got a song on his album that's
a classic to this day. But yeah, I love that and.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
I didn't I just want to say, if we to
ki that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
War we was originally though I always think it would
have been Mons. I always think the money got involved.
Niggas started making too much money too fast, and you know,
money give a lot of people power, or at least
they assume they got power. And then they got their
own ways. They don't feelings, their own crew, they don't

(01:16:43):
vibe and yeah, you know, and now your way ain't
the way no more. So I want to I always
wanted to talk the source and find out his.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Version of you know, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I would like to, but I'll tell you one thing.
You know, he was always the smartest. You said, ain't
let none this shit getting more.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
I'm going right here, And to be honest with you,
that was the way to go because I knew wise,
like one thing. As a kid, I knew like Jay
and them was always them niggas to me growing up,
seeing them with the cars, with the jury, the money
being in the house, seeing the room for white a

(01:17:21):
C's floor model TVs, it was like, I want to
be I want to be with that, Like whatever it take.
If I got a sweet I gotta wash the cars,
whatever it take. I'm I'm I'm fucking with them. So
when they gave me my opportunitus member, they was old,
way older than me. I was the young boys. So
for when they gave me my shot, it was like,
I'm not gonna fuck this up though, I'm not gonna

(01:17:43):
let the noise outside there distract me from what the
goal is. Because the goal was to get the mom
my mom's out the hood, bro world up. That was
it and I feel like I accomplished that. And that's
when I went Hollywood and they clipped me, left me
off the tour. You know what I'm saying. Moms moved out,
like I don't need this rap shit no more.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
We good Peace were going on tour with bad Boy. Wait,
I wasn't that good. They canna bring me here's the
ill shit. My mama don't want to leave the hood.
I'm getting called my whole my whole block crip.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
I'm getting calls from my mom for my people's talking
about yo. We just say your mom's at the Gambler's.
When I'm like, oh, TV a lot of ship, They're like, nah,
she had the trio spot find bet.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
I'm like, I'm like, Mama, They're like don't worry. We
gonna get a home safe. We love you calling. I'm like,
I'm glad I got love in the hood. That's a
fun bro.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
They gonna walk my mama home. Moms wanted to go.
Moms used to be.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Like, what what you do when crip word out?

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Like my grandmoms got blessed? She was the stubborn one
or something. I ain't leave it, she said, because I
ain't gonna friends. I don't wanna come to Jersey.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
I'm gonna friends. Yes, that's what I was trying to say.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
She ain't we I mean, I mean new friends and
bring the old ones to y'all back. Man, come on
chump only, they said the Russian chump on hume on
word up man.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
So what's what's on the horizon for wise? Like?

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
People want to, you know, find out what's new for
wise p Where can they go check in and tap
in that?

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Oh man?

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
You can go to wivespeed music w A I sp
music on Instagram. I mean, I'm I'm I'm consistently putting
out new albums at a bunch of stuff coming out,
So you're not gonna be at any loss of me

(01:19:40):
continuing when to spit this fire at at as much
at at as much rate that I can, because it's
it's therapeuted for me, That's right, you know what I'm saying.
It ain't even about the dollar more. It's more therapeutic
and and and I'm looking forward to that. So, yeah,

(01:20:02):
we got a bunch of stuff happening. I would say
I got seven albums dropping this.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Yeah, but my men over here will learn tell that you.
But I, whatever you do, don't get up there and
say you got seven albums, but listen a lot of work.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
One thing I do know, my G, I'm a bro
of yours for life. I'm gonna always respect the love
you like a brother of mine from my mother. And
I owe you, my G because you hit me a
minute ago and you was like your bleak, I need
a verse. But I was too busy trying to get
this together, so I wasn't even on that time, like,
but now send me that joint.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Guse, Yeah, I see it right here. And I wouldn't
have said it because I wouldn't have said I wasn't
gonna say it. I don't eat Captain Crunch.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
I don't watch superheroes that wear capes, all right. I
only like scar Face after capitiz rap a lot records?

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Why why? Why is that the same way I feel?

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
You know what I'm saying? So cap it ain't in
my DNA gun. I didn't even like.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Cap guns, only like real guns. Yeah, I definite like
the joints, the little.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Red joints of the niggas who cap I guarantee they
play with cap guns. Fat another episode of rock Solid
podcast you know what it is?

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Why is Peter Pimp? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
I'm still in the wind with no girlfriend, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
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Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
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