January 7, 2026 • 18 mins
Amy and T.J. give the latest details in a developing story out of Minnesota. ICE agents shot and killed a 37 year old woman who appeared to be blocking the road with her vehicle. The shooting was captured on video as you hear ICE agents tell the woman to get the F out of her car, she peels away, as another agent comes around the front of the vehicle as it’s headed towards him and fires several times, killing the woman. City officials just held a press conference disputing DHS claims of self defense along with a message for ICE from Minneapolis’ mayor: “Get the fuck out of Minneapolis.”
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey there, folks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It is Wednesday, January seventh, and we have a breaking
mess going on in Minneapolis right now. Welcome to this
episode of Amy and TJ. We're hopping on because they
have been robes a fast moving developments in Minneapolis, and
it is ongoing. But ICE agents have apparently robed, shot
and killed a woman in Minneapolis as a part of
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the immigration crackdown that's going on there.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
And we are watching the aftermath of that shooting because
there is massive unrest in the streets of Minneapolis.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
And that shooting, by the way, was captured at.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Least on one cell phone video, but I imagine we'll be
seeing several.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Different angles of this.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And we've got Minneapolis leaders, the mayor speaking out, police chief,
and it is getting incredibly difficult to discern what happened,
why it happened, and what should happen because of it.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Okay, this is scary and ugly, and I know, I know,
I know the mayor, Jacob Price, trying to do his
best to keep his city calm, but he got in
front of a microphone and rope. We have to say
he did bring the temperature up. I would say I
no doubt he's frustrated. I know he's pissed. But the
mayor of Minneapolis, who many of you all are familiar
with and knowa's face from a lot, it's been happening
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in that city over the years, the past few years.
The rhetoric and the words he used were combative. Yes,
they were angry. But when the leader of a city
gets up and tells ICE agents to get the fuck
out of Minneapolis, his words rose, it's a little shocking,
and the anger is there, and you got to respect
the anger. But it made me feel like, holy hell,
(01:51):
what's about to happen to Minneapolis exactly?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
And when he said that, he also said that the
official word from ICE, which is that they shot or
this particular ICE officer shot this woman, a thirty seven
year old woman, in the head because she was using
her car as a deadly weapon. She was coming at him,
and he shot as a response to protect his own life.
(02:14):
And the mayor flat out said, ICE trying to spin
this a self defense is bullshit.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
So what you have, then, are people.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Who are already angry in the city of Minneapolis, with
two thousand plus ICE agents descending on that area. Now
you have the mayor saying get the fuck out, and
what you're saying is bullshit. You're right now we're seeing
like literal fights breaking out in the streets around the
area where the shooting happened.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Folk.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yes, we are as we are hopping on here, folks.
We are watching a lot of this live is playing
out online, is playing out on television, and a lot
of people, of course are out there who are able
to live stream with their cameras and so a lot
of video is coming in. It's a lot to keep
an eye on. But this is very, very important to note.
This is not the first time we've seen someone in
the country who's died as a part of some of
(03:05):
ice operations around the country, but Robes, this one is
hitting a little different. And now you have what almost
sounds like the setting off of a war between Minneapolis
and Washington.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
D C.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Jacob Priye, the mayor of Minneapolis, and Donald Trump. They
the words that are being used are scary as hell. Now,
we can describe this all day long, road, but Homeland
Security put out a statement that is that flies in
the face of what the Minneapolis officials are saying. So
this is the statement. Now, if you have it up,
I don't have it up right now. We'll give you
(03:40):
the statement here from Department of Homeland Security. This is
the one that the Mayor of Minneapolis just said is bullshit.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
She said. This is from Christin Home, Department of Home.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
They officially put this out Department of Homeland Security.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Today, Ice officers in Minneapolis were conducting targeted operations when
rioters began blocking ICE officers, and one of these violent
rioters weaponized her vehicle, attempting to run over our law
enforcement officers in an attempt to kill them an act
of domestic terrorism. An ICE officer, fearing for his life,
(04:19):
the lives of his fellow law enforcement and the safety
of the public, fired defensive shots. He used his training
and saved his own life.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
And that of his fellow officers. The alleged perpetrator was
hit and is deceased.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
The ICE officers who were hurt are expected to make
full recoveries. This is the direct consequence of constant attacks
and demonization of our officers by sanctuary politicians who fuel
and encourage rampant assaults on our law enforcement, who are
facing thirteen hundred percent increase in assaults against them and
(04:57):
an eight thousand percent increase in death threats. This is
an involving situation, and we will give the public more
information as soon as it becomes available.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And that is the statement that the City of Minneapolis
calls bullshit. Now there is video out there. Now the
different account from the City of Minneapolis was essentially I
think they almost described the woman as blocking just blocking
the street. Some of even tried to describe as she
was driving away. We will give you our best description.
You will see it if you haven't already. But by
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the way, that statement from Christinome, what does she call
it violent?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
One of these silent active terrorism? Domestic terrorism?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Okay, And by the way, the city of Minneapolis describes
this person as a thirty seven year old white woman
who was shot in the head. Now, don't know what
she was doing and why she was there, but the
video is clear whatever they were doing in that area,
you had several federal agents and they had some kind
of a blockade up and checking people that were coming by.
(05:55):
A car pulls up and you hear an Ice agent
walking to the door. He's got a mask on, faces covered,
and he clearly says get the fuck out of the car,
clearly says it walks over puts his hand on the
door and tries to open it with the door handle.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It doesn't open.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
At that point, we then noticed there is another Ice
agent who had walked over to the front of the
car at this point. Whoever's in the driver and they
say she was alone in the car, so she was driving.
She hits the gas and takes off and the ice agent,
the second one, is in front of the car at
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this point. It almost seems like he stumbles. It's icy,
So I don't know if it was the ice or
if he actually got hit and spun him around, but
he was off balance as the car was taking off,
and you hear a couple of shots fire now ropes.
What other observations do you have of that? That's that
maybe could help people put put together what we saw.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You described the video very accurate, accurately, And I was
actually so this this of whether or not she was
trying to kill and run over this Ice agent or
was she trying to get away on so that okay.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
We agree on that.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
What I believe could have happened and is the most
likely scenario, is that because we could barely see her
attention most assuredly was looking at the officer directly at
the driver's side where she was trying to open the door.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
She then tries to peel and get away.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It is very likely she never saw the ice agent
come around the front and be right there when she
was driving off, So it didn't like we had a
hard time seeing him. So if her attention is focused
on this police officer screaming get the fuck out of
the car, her head's turned that way probably and she's
like gunning it to get away. I'm not saying she
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acted correctly. If a police officer tells you to get
out of the car, get out of the car.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Again, I don't want to. As that matter, and as
a legal matter, what might have happened, what she might
have seen, don't know. But an agent, we have seen cases.
This will be something they look into and investigated, so
on and so forth with robes in these cases I
have seen, I have covered them. When someone is in
a car and doesn't follow a police officer's command and
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is driving a vehicle towards that officer, it's deemed a
deadly weapon and he is allowed to use deadly force.
I have seen this before. Is that going to be
a part of it? I don't know. That is not
my most worrying issue here. I am worried Robes that
this has now set us. We are as hot as
we can get in this country in terms of our politics,
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political assassinations, how heated we are with our rhetoric now.
The mayor put a target on ICE agents in the
way he talked about them today.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
And look, you look, we're all big boys and girls,
and we all curse, probably in our private lives. But
I have to say, hearing a an elected official on
a my on live television.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
The decorum be damned.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Just start dropping f bombs and hurling those at our government.
I have never seen anything like that before.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
That was uncomfortable. I'm trying to give him a past
because I know he's mad. I'm trying to give him
a past because I know how upsetting this is, and
I know they don't want ICE. There a lot of
cities don't we get what's happening. Families are being torn apart,
all of those things.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
We get it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
But Rome's I and we're looking up here, and we'll
get into this a little later where it was a
quick thing. Christy Nolan was actually having a press conference
now as well.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Will monitor and see what she says and bring that
to you. But ros just we've been taught. We talk
about this every single day on the morning run, every
single day at how hot things are. Wow, wish somebody
could just bring the temperature down. And the mayor there
in on he said, I got a message for the
people of my community and for ice agents. He cussed
out ice agents and then told his community to let's
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show them who we are.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
We're better than this.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
But actually what you just said belied your next statement,
So it's unfortunate that he had to say, here, let's
be better, but first, let me be worse.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
So he went and met them.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
At their level at that moment, with the rhetoric and
the incendiary comments and the curse words.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
But then he went on to tell.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
The community, which is what hopefully he could have said
just in and of itself, without any of the other stuff.
But yes, rise to the occasion, show them who we are.
We are better than a bunch of ice agents. Let's
meet hate love, let's meet despair with hope. But what
you just said thirty seconds before was actually in the
complete opposite spirit.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
So it was tough, and yes, I get it. He
was angry, he was upset.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
There is ah, it's palpable.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
We're here in New York.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I feel the tension coming through the television set at me.
This is disturbing. That isn't even the word to use.
This is scary, this is I'm afraid. This is just
the beginning. Where does this end? This is ramping up
to a fever pitch and I don't know, I don't
none of us know where this ends.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Well, folks, stay here for just a moment.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
When we come back, we'll give you our thoughts about
where this is about to go next and also what
we continue to see on the streets of Minneapolis as
we speak. We continue here on this breaking edition of
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Amy and TJ hopping on because just an explosive situation
right now in Minneapolis. That city is on edge after
a woman was killed, shot by an Ice agent. And
I'm concerned, Robes about the next person we hear from
of consequence, Donald Trump. What is mister President going to
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say about this one?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
He is going to take what Christy Nome said and
probably level up even further. I mean, she called this
an active domestic terrorism. She said that this woman was
attempting to run over our law enforcement officers. Like I said,
we've seen I've only seen one angle of the video.
There are going to be multiple angles of this video.
But you can bet that President Trump is absolutely not
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going to unite and bring the temperature down. I feel
very confident in saying that this goes from I don't know.
I feel like we're already at a fever pitch to
the highest level possible.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
This is not.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
This is not going to come down. The temperature is
not going to come down.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And Minnesota, Minneapolis in particular, how much has been happening
there since George Floyd. George Floyd, but from that, it's
been hot in that city. And now the President is
keenly focused on that community, the mayor, the governor, So
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Molly's fraud isolations, all of these things are coming at
Minneapolis in particular, but Minnesota in a way that breaks
your heart for all that's going on. I mean, Rose,
we're okay. He kept saying, we're better than this man.
We are not proving it day.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
And day at That's a really good way to put
we actually showing.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Who we are.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
We see No, that's wrong too, because we were focusing
on the worst sometimes and Rose, we we go out
on a weekend and we meet some of the most
wonderful people doing the most wonderful things. But though, but
why are these voices the only ones getting through?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Why are these things.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
They are the ones that are guiding our politics, our emotions,
our communities, just everything.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And Rose, I know before.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
This even happened. It's interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I was on a FaceTime with my mom and she said,
I know you do this for a living, and I
love listening to your podcast, but I'm at a point
where I cannot even turn the television on anymore. And
I think a lot of Americans are like that. But
to turn a blind eye to this or to be
apathetic to it isn't a part of the solution. I
know it feels safe to be like I just don't
even want to watch or see. But this is getting scary,
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and this is spilling over into our streets. It's affecting everybody.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So we should offer always an alternative and some perspective
when we do these things. Robes and it's just folks.
Please please give folks a little grace. Be a little
nicer to the ice agent. Ice agent, be a little
nicer to that person you're confronting. And everybody's a criminal,
not everybody's out to get I don't know, robes what
to do, because being better doesn't seem to work.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
You know it, you do those do it in small ways.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
That's all you can do.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
You can only take care of your own actions and reactions.
We can all feel things passionately, but what we do
with those feelings is on us. And we can in
our own way, in our community, in our families and
our friend groups. We can try to see what we're
seeing out there right now on the streets of Minneapolis
and across this country, in different pockets and hotspots that
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keep popping up, and say I'm going to choose to
act differently in my world.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
In my community. That is all we can do.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Because this, you do start to feel powerless, you do
start to feel apathetic because you are helpless in a
lot of ways.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
You're just watching this happen. So what can we do
from this?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
We can see this, and we can just commit in
our own personal circles to do better and to be better.
I wanted to say I'm reading some reports because this
story is obviously going to evolve and deepen, and we're
going to learn more about who these players are. But
from ABC News, they are reporting that Minneapolis City council
member said the victim, the thirty seven year old woman,
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was in fact a US citizen who was he said,
an observer who was quote watching out for our immigrant neighbors.
So she inserted herself in to this situation and perhaps
probably blocked the street thinking she was helping fellow immigrants
who were her neighbors.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And we see the end result. Oh my god, she
thought she was doing good.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We'll keep an eye on this one, folks, and you
know what, talk about the focus and you talk about
your mom. Just then she said she I can't turn
the TV on, folks. We didn't plan on doing this story.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
You know. The other one we were going to do
is just as horrific. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Rob Reiner, yes, yeah, his son was supposed to be in
court today, So that's we might hop on an update
about that if we got the emotional bandwidth to do so.
But Ropes, I'm remembering that it was an officer in
twenty nineteen in Little Rock, Arkansas. Yes, fired fifteen shots
through the front of a car that was coming at him.
He was trying to stop a suspect.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I quit it.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Fired fifteen times. It wasn't terribly injured. But these cases,
when you see this and I mean, we're breaking it down,
that's fine, we shouldn't. The legal part of it is
just what happens. This is going to happen more, is
it not?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
It is because you could hear there was audio, and
you could hear how angry the protesters were screaming at
the police. The police were screaming at this woman. There
was so much yelling and anger. This wasn't about following
the law or doing what was right.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
There was anger anger.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
There was anger coming from the ice agents period.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
There was anger coming from the protesters period, and it
ramped it up to the.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Level where we saw what happened.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
And it's just awful and tragic and unnecessary and sad.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Folks, please check out the video for yourself. We'll keep
an eye on what's happening there. But it's important to
look at the video. We say it, and yes, it
is essentially the video of a woman being killed. You
don't see her should we should be clearer, You don't
see that nothing. I mean, it's awful to watch, but
you're gonna hear all sides telling different stories about this.
Please just go look at it for yourself, and you
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know what. Your eyes are not going to be confused
about what you see. You can try to interpret it
different ways, but what happened happened.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Folks.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
We always appreciate you spending some time with us. We
will hop back on as news. Warrens befrom now On, TJ.
Holmes on behalf of
Hey there, folks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It is Wednesday, January seventh, and we have a breaking
mess going on in Minneapolis right now. Welcome to this
episode of Amy and TJ. We're hopping on because they
have been robes a fast moving developments in Minneapolis, and
it is ongoing. But ICE agents have apparently robed, shot
and killed a woman in Minneapolis as a part of
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the immigration crackdown that's going on there.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
And we are watching the aftermath of that shooting because
there is massive unrest in the streets of Minneapolis.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
And that shooting, by the way, was captured at.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Least on one cell phone video, but I imagine we'll be
seeing several.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Different angles of this.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And we've got Minneapolis leaders, the mayor speaking out, police chief,
and it is getting incredibly difficult to discern what happened,
why it happened, and what should happen because of it.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Okay, this is scary and ugly, and I know, I know,
I know the mayor, Jacob Price, trying to do his
best to keep his city calm, but he got in
front of a microphone and rope. We have to say
he did bring the temperature up. I would say I
no doubt he's frustrated. I know he's pissed. But the
mayor of Minneapolis, who many of you all are familiar
with and knowa's face from a lot, it's been happening
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in that city over the years, the past few years.
The rhetoric and the words he used were combative. Yes,
they were angry. But when the leader of a city
gets up and tells ICE agents to get the fuck
out of Minneapolis, his words rose, it's a little shocking,
and the anger is there, and you got to respect
the anger. But it made me feel like, holy hell,
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what's about to happen to Minneapolis exactly?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
And when he said that, he also said that the
official word from ICE, which is that they shot or
this particular ICE officer shot this woman, a thirty seven
year old woman, in the head because she was using
her car as a deadly weapon. She was coming at him,
and he shot as a response to protect his own life.
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And the mayor flat out said, ICE trying to spin
this a self defense is bullshit.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
So what you have, then, are people.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Who are already angry in the city of Minneapolis, with
two thousand plus ICE agents descending on that area. Now
you have the mayor saying get the fuck out, and
what you're saying is bullshit. You're right now we're seeing
like literal fights breaking out in the streets around the
area where the shooting happened.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Folk.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yes, we are as we are hopping on here, folks.
We are watching a lot of this live is playing
out online, is playing out on television, and a lot
of people, of course are out there who are able
to live stream with their cameras and so a lot
of video is coming in. It's a lot to keep
an eye on. But this is very, very important to note.
This is not the first time we've seen someone in
the country who's died as a part of some of
(03:05):
ice operations around the country, but Robes, this one is
hitting a little different. And now you have what almost
sounds like the setting off of a war between Minneapolis
and Washington.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
D C.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Jacob Priye, the mayor of Minneapolis, and Donald Trump. They
the words that are being used are scary as hell. Now,
we can describe this all day long, road, but Homeland
Security put out a statement that is that flies in
the face of what the Minneapolis officials are saying. So
this is the statement. Now, if you have it up,
I don't have it up right now. We'll give you
(03:40):
the statement here from Department of Homeland Security. This is
the one that the Mayor of Minneapolis just said is bullshit.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
She said. This is from Christin Home, Department of Home.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
They officially put this out Department of Homeland Security.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Today, Ice officers in Minneapolis were conducting targeted operations when
rioters began blocking ICE officers, and one of these violent
rioters weaponized her vehicle, attempting to run over our law
enforcement officers in an attempt to kill them an act
of domestic terrorism. An ICE officer, fearing for his life,
(04:19):
the lives of his fellow law enforcement and the safety
of the public, fired defensive shots. He used his training
and saved his own life.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
And that of his fellow officers. The alleged perpetrator was
hit and is deceased.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
The ICE officers who were hurt are expected to make
full recoveries. This is the direct consequence of constant attacks
and demonization of our officers by sanctuary politicians who fuel
and encourage rampant assaults on our law enforcement, who are
facing thirteen hundred percent increase in assaults against them and
(04:57):
an eight thousand percent increase in death threats. This is
an involving situation, and we will give the public more
information as soon as it becomes available.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And that is the statement that the City of Minneapolis
calls bullshit. Now there is video out there. Now the
different account from the City of Minneapolis was essentially I
think they almost described the woman as blocking just blocking
the street. Some of even tried to describe as she
was driving away. We will give you our best description.
You will see it if you haven't already. But by
(05:28):
the way, that statement from Christinome, what does she call
it violent?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
One of these silent active terrorism? Domestic terrorism?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Okay, And by the way, the city of Minneapolis describes
this person as a thirty seven year old white woman
who was shot in the head. Now, don't know what
she was doing and why she was there, but the
video is clear whatever they were doing in that area,
you had several federal agents and they had some kind
of a blockade up and checking people that were coming by.
(05:55):
A car pulls up and you hear an Ice agent
walking to the door. He's got a mask on, faces covered,
and he clearly says get the fuck out of the car,
clearly says it walks over puts his hand on the
door and tries to open it with the door handle.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It doesn't open.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
At that point, we then noticed there is another Ice
agent who had walked over to the front of the
car at this point. Whoever's in the driver and they
say she was alone in the car, so she was driving.
She hits the gas and takes off and the ice agent,
the second one, is in front of the car at
(06:34):
this point. It almost seems like he stumbles. It's icy,
So I don't know if it was the ice or
if he actually got hit and spun him around, but
he was off balance as the car was taking off,
and you hear a couple of shots fire now ropes.
What other observations do you have of that? That's that
maybe could help people put put together what we saw.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You described the video very accurate, accurately, And I was
actually so this this of whether or not she was
trying to kill and run over this Ice agent or
was she trying to get away on so that okay.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
We agree on that.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
What I believe could have happened and is the most
likely scenario, is that because we could barely see her
attention most assuredly was looking at the officer directly at
the driver's side where she was trying to open the door.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
She then tries to peel and get away.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
It is very likely she never saw the ice agent
come around the front and be right there when she
was driving off, So it didn't like we had a
hard time seeing him. So if her attention is focused
on this police officer screaming get the fuck out of
the car, her head's turned that way probably and she's
like gunning it to get away. I'm not saying she
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acted correctly. If a police officer tells you to get
out of the car, get out of the car.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Again, I don't want to. As that matter, and as
a legal matter, what might have happened, what she might
have seen, don't know. But an agent, we have seen cases.
This will be something they look into and investigated, so
on and so forth with robes in these cases I
have seen, I have covered them. When someone is in
a car and doesn't follow a police officer's command and
(08:15):
is driving a vehicle towards that officer, it's deemed a
deadly weapon and he is allowed to use deadly force.
I have seen this before. Is that going to be
a part of it? I don't know. That is not
my most worrying issue here. I am worried Robes that
this has now set us. We are as hot as
we can get in this country in terms of our politics,
(08:37):
political assassinations, how heated we are with our rhetoric now.
The mayor put a target on ICE agents in the
way he talked about them today.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
And look, you look, we're all big boys and girls,
and we all curse, probably in our private lives. But
I have to say, hearing a an elected official on
a my on live television.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
The decorum be damned.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Just start dropping f bombs and hurling those at our government.
I have never seen anything like that before.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
That was uncomfortable. I'm trying to give him a past
because I know he's mad. I'm trying to give him
a past because I know how upsetting this is, and
I know they don't want ICE. There a lot of
cities don't we get what's happening. Families are being torn apart,
all of those things.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
We get it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
But Rome's I and we're looking up here, and we'll
get into this a little later where it was a
quick thing. Christy Nolan was actually having a press conference
now as well.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
We don't.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Will monitor and see what she says and bring that
to you. But ros just we've been taught. We talk
about this every single day on the morning run, every
single day at how hot things are. Wow, wish somebody
could just bring the temperature down. And the mayor there
in on he said, I got a message for the
people of my community and for ice agents. He cussed
out ice agents and then told his community to let's
(10:01):
show them who we are.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
We're better than this.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
But actually what you just said belied your next statement,
So it's unfortunate that he had to say, here, let's
be better, but first, let me be worse.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
So he went and met them.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
At their level at that moment, with the rhetoric and
the incendiary comments and the curse words.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
But then he went on to tell.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
The community, which is what hopefully he could have said
just in and of itself, without any of the other stuff.
But yes, rise to the occasion, show them who we are.
We are better than a bunch of ice agents. Let's
meet hate love, let's meet despair with hope. But what
you just said thirty seconds before was actually in the
complete opposite spirit.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
So it was tough, and yes, I get it. He
was angry, he was upset.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
There is ah, it's palpable.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
We're here in New York.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I feel the tension coming through the television set at me.
This is disturbing. That isn't even the word to use.
This is scary, this is I'm afraid. This is just
the beginning. Where does this end? This is ramping up
to a fever pitch and I don't know, I don't
none of us know where this ends.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Well, folks, stay here for just a moment.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
When we come back, we'll give you our thoughts about
where this is about to go next and also what
we continue to see on the streets of Minneapolis as
we speak. We continue here on this breaking edition of
(11:38):
Amy and TJ hopping on because just an explosive situation
right now in Minneapolis. That city is on edge after
a woman was killed, shot by an Ice agent. And
I'm concerned, Robes about the next person we hear from
of consequence, Donald Trump. What is mister President going to
(11:59):
say about this one?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
He is going to take what Christy Nome said and
probably level up even further. I mean, she called this
an active domestic terrorism. She said that this woman was
attempting to run over our law enforcement officers. Like I said,
we've seen I've only seen one angle of the video.
There are going to be multiple angles of this video.
But you can bet that President Trump is absolutely not
(12:24):
going to unite and bring the temperature down. I feel
very confident in saying that this goes from I don't know.
I feel like we're already at a fever pitch to
the highest level possible.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
This is not.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
This is not going to come down. The temperature is
not going to come down.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And Minnesota, Minneapolis in particular, how much has been happening
there since George Floyd. George Floyd, but from that, it's
been hot in that city. And now the President is
keenly focused on that community, the mayor, the governor, So
(13:03):
Molly's fraud isolations, all of these things are coming at
Minneapolis in particular, but Minnesota in a way that breaks
your heart for all that's going on. I mean, Rose,
we're okay. He kept saying, we're better than this man.
We are not proving it day.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
And day at That's a really good way to put
we actually showing.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Who we are.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
We see No, that's wrong too, because we were focusing
on the worst sometimes and Rose, we we go out
on a weekend and we meet some of the most
wonderful people doing the most wonderful things. But though, but
why are these voices the only ones getting through?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Why are these things.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
They are the ones that are guiding our politics, our emotions,
our communities, just everything.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And Rose, I know before.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
This even happened. It's interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I was on a FaceTime with my mom and she said,
I know you do this for a living, and I
love listening to your podcast, but I'm at a point
where I cannot even turn the television on anymore. And
I think a lot of Americans are like that. But
to turn a blind eye to this or to be
apathetic to it isn't a part of the solution. I
know it feels safe to be like I just don't
even want to watch or see. But this is getting scary,
(14:18):
and this is spilling over into our streets. It's affecting everybody.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So we should offer always an alternative and some perspective
when we do these things. Robes and it's just folks.
Please please give folks a little grace. Be a little
nicer to the ice agent. Ice agent, be a little
nicer to that person you're confronting. And everybody's a criminal,
not everybody's out to get I don't know, robes what
to do, because being better doesn't seem to work.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
You know it, you do those do it in small ways.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
That's all you can do.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
You can only take care of your own actions and reactions.
We can all feel things passionately, but what we do
with those feelings is on us. And we can in
our own way, in our community, in our families and
our friend groups. We can try to see what we're
seeing out there right now on the streets of Minneapolis
and across this country, in different pockets and hotspots that
(15:16):
keep popping up, and say I'm going to choose to
act differently in my world.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
In my community. That is all we can do.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Because this, you do start to feel powerless, you do
start to feel apathetic because you are helpless in a
lot of ways.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
You're just watching this happen. So what can we do
from this?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
We can see this, and we can just commit in
our own personal circles to do better and to be better.
I wanted to say I'm reading some reports because this
story is obviously going to evolve and deepen, and we're
going to learn more about who these players are. But
from ABC News, they are reporting that Minneapolis City council
member said the victim, the thirty seven year old woman,
(15:57):
was in fact a US citizen who was he said,
an observer who was quote watching out for our immigrant neighbors.
So she inserted herself in to this situation and perhaps
probably blocked the street thinking she was helping fellow immigrants
who were her neighbors.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
And we see the end result. Oh my god, she
thought she was doing good.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
We'll keep an eye on this one, folks, and you
know what, talk about the focus and you talk about
your mom. Just then she said she I can't turn
the TV on, folks. We didn't plan on doing this story.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
You know. The other one we were going to do
is just as horrific. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Rob Reiner, yes, yeah, his son was supposed to be in
court today, So that's we might hop on an update
about that if we got the emotional bandwidth to do so.
But Ropes, I'm remembering that it was an officer in
twenty nineteen in Little Rock, Arkansas. Yes, fired fifteen shots
through the front of a car that was coming at him.
He was trying to stop a suspect.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I quit it.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Fired fifteen times. It wasn't terribly injured. But these cases,
when you see this and I mean, we're breaking it down,
that's fine, we shouldn't. The legal part of it is
just what happens. This is going to happen more, is
it not?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
It is because you could hear there was audio, and
you could hear how angry the protesters were screaming at
the police. The police were screaming at this woman. There
was so much yelling and anger. This wasn't about following
the law or doing what was right.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
There was anger anger.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
There was anger coming from the ice agents period.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
There was anger coming from the protesters period, and it
ramped it up to the.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Level where we saw what happened.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
And it's just awful and tragic and unnecessary and sad.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Folks, please check out the video for yourself. We'll keep
an eye on what's happening there. But it's important to
look at the video. We say it, and yes, it
is essentially the video of a woman being killed. You
don't see her should we should be clearer, You don't
see that nothing. I mean, it's awful to watch, but
you're gonna hear all sides telling different stories about this.
Please just go look at it for yourself, and you
(18:11):
know what. Your eyes are not going to be confused
about what you see. You can try to interpret it
different ways, but what happened happened.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Folks.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
We always appreciate you spending some time with us. We
will hop back on as news. Warrens befrom now On, TJ.
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