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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Casual Chaos.
This week, we have a very exciting guest, Greg Grippo.
Welcome to Casual Chaos.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm so excited to be here. Thank for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Oh, no problem. You are a hot commodity in Bachelor Nation.
My friends were freaking out when they heard I was
having you on.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
My Is that right? That's sweet of though.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I mean, yeah, they were freaking out.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's honestly weird for me to even think about that
because it's been so long at this point, and it
was just a short stint in my life.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
So, but I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
So from the Bachelor at your life has changed.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, it definitely has.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Everyone fell in love with you on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And everyone hated me for a little bit too.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Okay, so you got the love and the hate. I
mean that's normal in any scenario.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Before I get into talking about Katie or anything, I
also just want to say setting my thoughts in prayers.
I know she's battling breast cancer right now, So before
I talk about anything, you reach out to her at
all or anything.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I sent her a message, Yeah, just sending her of
my best wishes, you know. I mean, that's terrible, but
she's a tough cookie. I believe in her, so yeah,
I really am praying for and hope she gets through it.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, you were twenty seven when you were on Katie
season of The Bacherrette. I was were you ready for marriage?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Was I twenty seven or was I twenty six? And
I turned twenty seven when it aired. I was twenty seven. Yeah,
I was twenty seven. Was I ready for marriage?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I think that looking at your life now, yeah, looking at.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Your life now, Like looking back, I definitely don't think
I was ready. But in the moment, you're like, yeah,
I can do this. Yeah, I can definitely be ready
if it's the right one. And I truly believed that
at the time. But I mean, look, that's why you
went on there exactly. But looking back on it now,
I'm like, there's no shot that I was ready. I
also wasn't in like a mental state, like it was
too soon in my opinion, after my dad passed to
(01:54):
get into something like that, and like I just didn't
have the capacity.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Even like see that or understand that at that time.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It's okay, it's all right. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So do you feel like it was almost impulse in
a way or trying to deal with grieve in different
types of way.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, it's tough. I mean I think that I was.
I mean the show called me for a few seasons
prior to that, and I kept on turning them down,
and then eventually I was in a spot and I
think that I was just like looking for that new
chapter in my life to kind of just you know,
open up for myself and try something new.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I did that, but like looking back on I remember
watching and I'm like, oh my god, this wasn't right
for me.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I mean, looking back on yourself on TV sometimes it's brutal.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's so hard brutal. No, it's brutal.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's so brutal, Like the cringiest moment.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I had so many cringe moments on that show. Oh
my god. Now my friends don't let me live down.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Honestly.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
They'll always like send like a weird clip that they
have like screen recorded, and I'm just like, oh.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Of course. I mean I've I've been on TV since
I was eight.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Eight yearyears old. Yeah, holy, you're like a Kardashian.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, I guess different levels.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Oh my god, realm. I didn't know this.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, no, my mom's been on the Real house I
was in New Jersey since I was eight.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
She's been like in the Bravo world for eighteen years.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Obviously, you know, growing up in Jersey, I knew what
Real Housewives in New Jersey was, but I just never
really watched TV growing up.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
But that's crazy. Eight years old even in this for
a minute.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It was no. It was nuts. Yeah, But as a
little kid, as a girly girl, it was no big deal.
I wanted a movie star. I saw the cameras, I
thought everything was so much fun. But then I did
my waking Up in the Morning song when I was
like nine years old, and that have ever heard that?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I don't think so you definitely have if you're on
TikTok really.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Okay during COVID, do you remember that sound where the
kid sounds like she's crying, saying waking up in the morning,
thinking about.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Waking up in the morning, that was you shut up? Wait,
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Me and all my friends always say that to one another,
like if something.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Goes that's you. Oh no, oh my gosh, that's me.
That was you.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
That was totally me. Oh my, So imagine COVID We're
all on lockdown and I'm scrolling through chaos.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Four years ago. Also you looked like a toddler.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah I wasn't That wasn't me four years ago?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
You were twenty years or oh, that wasn't you four
years ago? Oh okay, okay. I was about to say,
oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh it was like eight or nine, gotcha. And but
four years ago is when it popped off out of nowhere.
So in my brain, I'm like, I sang.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
That that's so great though, that's iconic.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Though, good for you as iconic.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, now I look at it as iconic. I own it.
It's a part of me. That's it. But when I
was sitting there four years ago and I'm scrolling and
every other video is another like a list celebrity using
my sound, yeah, I was like, this isn't happening. I
feel like I was like living in like some sort
of a dream.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, that's like some black mirror.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
And I was like, wow, And when did I ever?
Like I would have never thought in a million years
that that would have came out. Now I love that
blessing in disguise.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I guess can you say it right now? Waking up
in the.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Moment, waking up in the morning, thinking about so many things.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I just wish life can get better.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I try to try to get rid of them, but
nothing seems to say the same. Wow, wow, thank you,
no problem, that's your entertainment for this podcast. But yeah,
so we've all had our cringe moments for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Oh I wish I had that one, But I appreciate
you telling me that it's okay.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
I hope that made you feel better. Yeah. So then,
I mean, I guess you and Katie kind of did
it on some bad terms when the Batchelor ended.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, I mean that that part of it was sad
because we yeah, we just left on not the greatest
of terms. But I mean we hashed it out fairly
quickly after the show. She reached out and you know,
we made amends right away, and I mean it was
squashed after that. But yeah, in the midst of it all,
(06:25):
I wish I handled things differently. Looking back on it all, do.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
You wish you stayed after you said I love you?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I mean, I I was in the airport right after
I said it, and I remember I was really regretful
of leaving, and like, I don't think I under I
kind of almost attempted to.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I was.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I was texting producers non stop, you know, trying to
go back and trying to see if you know, she
was engaged not. But I didn't get any reply, and
like I realized at that time, I was like, you
know what, this maybe wasn't the right setting for me
to be in this point in time, and I just
try to move on.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, do you think the environment of the show played
into just a lot of your emotions heightened situations?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, you know, I think that if you're going through something,
especially in your own life, I mean, going on that
show is not a good idea. I mean, You're you're
going to be put putt in a tough environment where
you know, you're not going to be able to get
seven eight hours of sleep, nine hours of sleep maybe sometimes,
and you're going to be running on like three to four,
(07:34):
and your emotions are going to be heightened, and and uh,
it's gonna be you know, wine involved, and you're not
going to really see the best version of yourself sometimes. Yeah,
So you know, being being there in a good foundation
I think is the only move really.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So then after the season ended, I mean, looking back now,
you realize that that was probably the best decision for yourself.
How did you handle all the backlash because you know,
you were feeling regretful for leaving then. Obviously the Bachelor
Nation fans are very intense. Yeah they are, so how
(08:09):
did you cope with that?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I think I just felt very misunderstood a lot of
the time, and directly after, you know, there was just
like all these things about like I was putting on
an act and stuff, and.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It was scary.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I was embarrassed, truthfully, So I really didn't want to
leave the house that often. I mean I would with like,
you know, my best friends, my family and stuff, but
I would just keep a close knit circle, truthfully. And
I just tried to move on, I really did. I
just try to put it in the back of me
and just, yeah, move forward.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
But it was tough.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I mean, that's all you can do with anything that
happens that sucks. That's the worst part. I feel like
Bachelor Nation fans, Bravo fans, I feel whenever you're on
such as a reality TV show. Yeah, the fans are
very intense. Yeah, and they have they have a big opinion.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I feel like every rally show, there's so many of
them nowadays, but I feel like everyone has like the
Ride or Die fan base at this point, So you
just gotta be ready ready.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Is that whatever one you're in here?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah? No, for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Did they reach out to you to be the Bachelor?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, they did it, just it wasn't the right timing. Honestly,
it was directly after my season, so.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
You were just dealing with a lot of back lives.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I was, and it just I was I was straight
up with them. I was like, guys, I'm not too
ready for this, and we just you know, parted ways
on it.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, and they never reached out to you ever like
since then. No, No, you would be a great contender.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
A contender for the Bachelor.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Would you do it now or you feel like that's
so behind you now?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Be the Bachelor?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, I mean I envisioned myself and like, you know,
hopefully after my parents being the role models they were
and their marriage, I really, you know, would like it.
And I understand that there are real love stories that
come out of the show. I just uh, I think
(10:10):
I would have anxiety truthfully about you know, for instance,
sometimes people don't know who they're going on for. I
think that would be one thing that I would want
to happen, is that they don't usually like tell people
beforehand who it's going to be, and so I would
want them to know prior. You know, if like people
are going to on the on the show to get engaged,
(10:31):
I would want them to know who they're going on for.
And so I think people being like one hundred percent
in for you is just I think that.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Would create more success also for the show.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, yeah, that's actually a good point. Yeah, I mean,
because it kind of is like love is blind in
a way, in a way that show you're going and
blind and then I mean you're figuring out if you
have a connection or not. But I mean, please, I
feel like if anyone heard Grippo is going to be
the Bachelor, you would have a line out the door.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
That's a nice thing.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
So since then do you kind of just want to
want it to happen the organic way?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I mean yeah, I uh, I haven't really counted out
anything in life said you know, if something happened organically,
I would do that. I never really wanted to ever
say like point blank no, I would never do like
another show, but you know, I have faith in myself
(11:33):
that it's gonna happen, just more organically for me probably.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, I mean, speaking of anxiety and everything like that,
when you are on a reality TV show, it puts
a lot of pressure on yourself absolutely, and then like
you you already dealt with the backlash of the fan,
so to really put yourself in that position again, like
you said, it would definitely give you anxiety, anyone anxiety.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, And I mean you know that you can only
show so much of one per it also depends what
they use. That's true too, So like I think that was,
you know, the one thing for me. And maybe it
was a time of life that I was in where
I just maybe looked perpetually sad throughout the day. But
I have such like I I guess my face looks
sad when it settles, and so everyone always like if
(12:17):
I'm at a bar, at a party or something, people like,
what's wrong. And it's always happened to me ever since
high school.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, I have a resting bitch face.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, you understand.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
So I mean that happened on the show and then
I just looked sad, and then I just got labeled
as like a very sad, sad man, which like I
wouldn't want to happen again if like, yeah, say I
would ever do that?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You know, and you have to be on especially if
you were the Beast.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Oh yeah, clicking clicking, would.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
You ever do Paradise or any of those other shows?
Or you feel like that's just not.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oh no, I'm going this year. Oh no, I'm just joking. No,
they didn't even call them. I know, they didn't call me.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
No, honestly, if they called me, I was really truthfully
on the fence about it if I were to go
or not. But no, I mean they didn't call and
kind of made my decision for me. So I mean
I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I kind of wanted to just move on to this
next stage of my life for good and it feels good.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I'm comfortable with that.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, I mean, you're living your life. You are really
big into influencing. Now I need to go on your TikTok.
I feel people tell me you're hilarious.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I don't know, you know, I think I think it
hits like a certain crowd, Like I appreciate that people
laugh at my stuff sometimes.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, well, I mean it's better for people to laugh
at you than to people think that you're funny rather
than people think you're cringe.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, I guess yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, I mean come on. Sometimes there's those guys that
do tiktoks and I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah,
it comes to a certain point. It's tough out here. Tough,
it's stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I mean, I cringe myself out sometimes, and like, I mean,
I won't post that much maybe like I don't know,
once every week and a half two weeks, yeah, but
it's usually just like very in the moment for me
with like something with like my friends or like I
just I just got gifted a lounge set in Napa
and it was it was a woman's and I put
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it on just a little.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Dancing dance to it. You're a dancer, I mean I can.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I don't think I'm too good, but I think it's
your confidence when you're dancing. You know, if you believe
you're good, then I think other people will be like,
oh he's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, you're right. I need to work on that. I
work on my confidence while dancing. Not that confident.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Just let it coach, just let it rip. Have like
two glasses of wine. Next thing you know, you're saucaying.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
I need to build that confident my dancing skills. Like
I'm gonna I'm oh my god, I just got done
to this. Said, I'm gonna be in a wedding in
Italy this May, and I'm walking out with obviously one
of the groom's men, and we have to do this
whole dance.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
And I was like, oh, that's my least favorite part.
You better, that's my least.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Favorite choreographed the dance, Brandon, because I have no idea
what I'm doing, and I'm really nervous about this.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Actually, I hate when they like announce people and like
you gotta do dance. I think I think that's like
my biggest nightmare. It's like almost the same as being
in a in a class and like waiting for your
turn to like say your names, and I would just
stutter all the time.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
No, I'm very nervous for this. He goes, as long
as you know how to do the cotton eye, Joe,
I go, we are not doing the cotton eye.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Joe, Hey, that's funky.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I was like, this is crazy. And then we had
to pick a song. I was like, oh, I didn't
even know the song that he picked. Oh really, I'm
listening to it. I'm repeating my card.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Now are you really You're just like, oh, shit, shit, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I think.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I think the biggest thing to know is that like
people don't care, you know, like we I think trick
ourselves to be like, oh, this is the biggest thing
for everyone, Like they're gonna think like I'm the weirdest
person in the world.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
People don't give a shit. They're just like, all right,
what's next?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Ye're right, And honestly, it blows over the next day.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, you know absolutely.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
I don't think anybody will be going to bed and
being like, did you see Gias danced Cotton Eye Joe?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
And I'm around my family. I need to like calm
the nerves a little. But then again, myself, I want
to have the best dance. Yeah, so it's like a
weird thing.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I think.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I'm like, So, you also dated somebody else that was
in Bachelor Nation, Victoria Fuller, and that relationship ended. How
did that end? Are you guys on good terms?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I mean anytime with a breakup, you know, it's tough,
no matter how it ends, to be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But she's great. I really think the world of her.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I know that she's probably killing I mean I don't
look at her stuff, but she's probably killing it. Yeah,
and I'll always wish the best best for no matter what.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, did you guys connect just because of like bachelor
stuff like that?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, pretty much. We met at a concert a while back.
It was like directly after the show, our first time
like meeting one another.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
That was like our first time meeting.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
It was like very you know quick, and then we
just had mutual friends later on that we like hung
out with from time time.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
So how were you right now? How many years ago
were you on the Bachelorette?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
So I'm thirty one and.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
It was on geez, I think it was twenty twenty one,
So it's been a little over four years. Like I
this is this is April, So I was still there
actually four years ago.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Wow, it's a big change in your life. Yeah, this
is a very big divot. Yeah, but now, okay, looking
back on it four years later, are you dating anyone now?
Are you? You know?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I just went on a date recently. Yeah she was
stunning beautiful. Yeah, I know, she really was, and she's
she was really great.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
So I mean, I'm really just all I'm trying to
do is just like be careful in my life because
I just like want to date with intention truthfully, and
I mean I feel ready for the next phase, and
I truly do feel ready to be in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
So I guess we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
So you're ready for marriage, but you don't also want
it if you're going to slow down?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
No, I mean I want to get married. I mean
I have nine nieces and nephews at this point.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
How many brothers?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I'm I'm the youngest of four, so two sisters, one brother.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I'm one of four.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Oh are you really? Are you the youngest?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I'm the oldest.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Oh wow, oh wow? Okay, cool, so.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Younger than me?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Cool? All right? Got you?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So there's two and two. Yeah, yeah for you guys,
two girls, two boys is the same for you?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
No?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
All girls?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Oh shit?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah that's cute. Though. I like the two and two.
I'm just not having four kids, but I love the
two and two.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, it's been a great dynamic, and I mean, man,
I just feel more ready for it. I mean, I
want to buy a house soon and like get a
talk eventually move in with someone. Like I don't want
to put myself on any strict timeline.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
But I really hate going out nowadays. I just I
don't enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I don't have a good time unless like I'm sitting
in like you know, booth and chilling with my friends
and just like talking to people who I love, then
I'll enjoy it. But like, I don't like to go
out with like, you know, one or two people and
then we're just like standing there, like looking around and
like almost being like, oh, yeah, she's cute.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
You know. I'm just not into it anymore. Yeah, I'm
really not.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
So then would that like, are you interested in dating apps? Oh?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I haven't been on one since before the show.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Oh okay, yeah, so you are really on this happen
organic train. I do not think you're into any of
this anymore.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I mean Instagram is technically like dating app nowadays when
you think about it, No, you don't think so.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I guess. So would you ever date someone that's let
into your d MS? I feel like that's kind of
different than a dating app?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Because I feel like it's more personal.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah, Like they're genuinely reaching out to you to see
your interest. So it's almost like a girl wanting to
be one of your contestants on the batch.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Oh shit, I never thought about it like that.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
But I mean, I I think it's always easier to
meet organically. I think that it's tough now, like, you know,
especially like talking beforehand on a date, Like I enjoy
meeting someone in person and like seeing how the vibes
are right out the gate and just kind of cutting
(20:41):
the bullshit, you know, and just you know, planning the
date on Instagram and then oh, should we do dinner?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
And it's just like then we sit down.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
It is still kind of a blind date.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Then we yeah, it kind of is.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, and then we sit down to dinner and just
like the vibes are totally off and then we're both
kind of sitting there like feeling bad for one another,
and we just.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
You know, we're gonna get feeling in the world. Yeah,
I've never been in that scenario.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
It's not great.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's why I've kind of been reluctant to go out
for like the last a little over a year now
at this point, haven't been on too many dates.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, yeah, this one just went well.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
You know, we had some chicken fingers, French fries and
a sprite love that yeah, and some wine.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
But yeah perfect.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Well happy for you, that's awesome, thank you. I mean,
you know, when you're happy with yourself and then once
you get your home and your dog, I feel like
everything will fall into place.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I think when you're not looking, that's when it really
comes to you. Because I think I always put like
my weight into relationships, especially growing up. I think I
was always in a relationship ever since high school. So
you were a relationship person, yeah, truly, And even after
the show. Four months after the show, I started seeing
someone and then that ended, and then you know, four
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or five months later I got into another relationship, and then,
like I think, looking back on it, I really never
took time off, like after the passing of my dad,
which I really struggled with. I think that I just
like I think I needed to figure out like my
own dynamic, like with my family, in my own life,
in my own grief before really like putting in all
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my you know, effort and being able to put all
my effort into relationship because my mind.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I feel like, which is like everywhere for so long.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I mean, I feel like that's such a valid point.
And I've even dealt with things in my life and
you really have to heal by yourself, yeah, to move on.
And you know, I feel how you said, you've always
been in a relationship. You needed someone to lean on.
You were looking for a person to just you know,
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make you feel good, help you get through things. But
as much as that helps, it doesn't solve what you're
really feeling inside. It's kind of almost like a band aid,
it really is.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah. And then so it was scary for me to
be a.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Like for I don't know this last year, but I
mean it shouldn't shouldn't have been. But I like six
months in, I was like, wow, thank goodness, I'm doing
this right now. And I really wasn't dating at all,
like for like the first six or seven months.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
How do you think Greg is different than from Bachelor
at Greg to now?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I was so anxiety driven.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I was so scared for my life and in terms
of like what direction I was going to lead into.
I truly like, especially after basketball. I played basketball my
whole entire life.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, you were telling me you were pretty good.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I was all right.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I was decent, yeah, And you know, I put in
all my time and effort ever since I was seven
eight years old into this one thing out of college.
I truly had no idea what I wanted to do
with my life, and so I had many many jobs,
different side jobs, side gigs.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I mean it was.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Tough too, Like ubering was is not for the week
of heart sometimes, especially if, like you know, your ego
is fragile in a way too. I remember I picked
up like this girl who I went on a date
with prior, and like I couldn't have been more embarrassed.
I just like felt like ashamed of the point where
at which I shouldn't have been. You know, obviously, you know,
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people make their own living, but like my ego was
so fragile, and like I was just an insecure person
at the time, and I really didn't know where I
wanted to go in life, and.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I just like really struggled with that.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
And I think I'm just more confident in myself and situations,
and like, you know, everyone has their own situation in life.
And I learned to gain you know, more trust in
myself as time went on and not putting so much
weight into other people's thoughts or feelings of me.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, you need to. I feel like you need to
do like a ted talk.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Oh that's that's yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Maybe maybe you're giving You're giving great advice to the people.
I'm like listening to you. I'm like, I need to
take some of this advice for myself too. At the
end of the day. It's true. I mean, you know,
you said, you know, when you were younger, you were
in a lot of relationships. Like you just said, now,
basketball was your passion. It was everything that you knew.
So at the same time of you going on The
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Bachelor atte you were also trying to figure yourself out.
Things in your life weren't steady or consistent. So I
feel like maybe also you were trying to find that
consistency as well. But now you found it.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I'm having a blast doing what I'm doing right now,
and I'm truly grateful for it no matter what. It's hard,
because you know, I feel like not so much nowadays,
but even like a year ago, you find yourself just
comparing yourself to other people online NonStop.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It's hard when you're in the world of it as
well too. Because you even just look at everything from
your perspective of success and also being a content creator. Yeah,
so you're comparing both, you know, both categories. Rather than
just as a viewer behind the phone, you're actually creating
the content and looking at everyone else's as well.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, it's pretty much like the thief of happiness honestly,
as hard as it is sometimes because I mean I'll
have my moments still to this day where I'm just
like like this, like I don't want to do this
today or whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
And but now it's how we make a living.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, And I try to say every single day, a
few times a day, like just in my head, like
I'm grateful. I have so much in life that I
could be grateful for because like it's not all about
money at the end of the day. Like I have
such a good family and like the best friends that
I could ever wish for my entire life, and like
that should be enough right now, no matter how I
make money.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Whose to that.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Let's do though, you know, Oh you're.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Right, I mean you have to just have your happiness
the people that I love and support around you.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, And that's it.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I Mean, that's how I got through a bunch of
my tough time. So that's that's all you could ask for.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, it's important.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Have you had your friends for a while, yeah, since
high school?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, I feel like boys are so different than girls.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Really, what do you like gain new friends as time
goes on?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Are you saying, Okay, I have like my four or
five friends from high school, middle school that I'm still
friends with, but as I grew, I you know, need
more fronts.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Absolutely, yeah, I mean I have my friends in high
school and then man, like my friends from college. Also,
we talk every day still, all of them, and like
eight out of the ten of them are engaged or
married or have kids at this point, and we still
keep up with one another, you know, like we hope
that one day we'll be able to take trips with
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like our wives and kids one day and like have
like one yearly trip or something.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
But then I also have like, you know, best friends
from the show that I was on, like Andrew and
Justin and Trey, Like those guys are like brothers to
me at this point.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I guess I form more along the way. But I
feel like boys stick with their friends, like they don't
really have fallouts. Girls. Yeah, but It's like I feel
like friends drop easier for girls than they do for guys.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, I would agree with that. I think that, or
maybe I don't know if I would agree with that. Actually,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Your sisters, your sisters roll through friends.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, no, that's true. Yeah, I mean we have our
disagreement sometimes, but it always gets hashed out, usually in
like the same day, and we're always just like, let's
just forget about this.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
We move on very very quickly.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
That's how guys are. Yeah, even if like they're out,
they get into it in argument in an hour. You
guys are fine. Yeah, just so different. Have any celebrities
ever slid into your dms.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Like after the show? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Oh really. I guess, like no cool celebrities ever thought
I was attractive. I've like never had a cool story.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Well, I think that's tough for you, like it, I
had a short stint, you know, mine was like three months.
You're you're you're a Kardashian right now, you know, so
like that's tough for I feel like that's tougher for you.
I think like for me, they're just like, oh I
vibe with this guy. They only see like these you
know six episodes of me right off the bat, I feel.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Like guys are again different though, I feel like they
get a lot of dms like I was. I had
Maria George's on my podcast not too long ago, and
she said the same thing after her Bachelor season with
Joey she never got any crazy dms.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Either, Oh please, she really yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I said the same thing to her. I go, wait,
I'm very shocked, oh wow, and she goes, now, I swear,
and I was like, well, honestly, me, I'm.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Showing either I'm shocked.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I was shocked to I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Maybe it's different for guys on the show.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Then girls also, though, have more balls than guys.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I was going to say that I think so, yeah,
especially shooting a shot on a DM like it's it's
honestly very tough for me to Yeah, I don't know,
it's it's scary, you know this.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
But even now, I also had this conversation with her too,
I feel like girls are more inclined now to go
up to guys and make the first move than guys
are to girls.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, I would agree with that. I would agree with that.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I don't know what's going on. Meanwhile, I'm so intrigued
to like that old school mentality of the guy going
up to the woman you know, asking for to take
you on a date, of course paying for the meal.
I'm so I love that old school mentality. And I'm like,
I feel bad for my friends that are in this
dating pool.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Are they not getting like their first date paid for? Like,
has it ever happened to any of your friends?
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Really that sucks.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I bet you were raised better than that.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I mean, no matter how the date goes, like, I
think that you know, it's important to at least extend
the offer, and uh, yeah, but it is. I will say,
it is tough to go into a bar and you know,
find the right words.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
You've got to shoot your shot. You look beautiful tonight,
No girl is gonna get mad.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
That could come off weird. Beautiful, That could come off weird.
Sometimes say you're in a club, you look beautiful tonight.
She turns and says, what the you know, it is
a compliment. I'm sure she would go home later and
be like, oh, that was really nice of that guy.
But in the time, you know, you gotta be a
little bit more mysterious.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I agree, Okay, I now I get what you're saying, okay,
I agree, yeah. Sometimes, but also you could catch the
girl that's in a relationship and doesn't want to talk
to you. I guess this is the whole thing about you.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Sometimes sometimes that yeah, I think it's just you know,
best to go up to her and say, I'm just
a guy coming up to a girl at a bar.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Don't say that that's horrible.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You know, they'll catch somebody off guard.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
You know, somebody tried and say and see you and
tell me how it goes.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I think you should give it a chance. Everyone can
go into greg zmsough if you tried, Oh my god,
that's hilarious. So then, after all this relationship talk, what
are you really looking for in a partner?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I think with like the partnerships of what I see
in my circle, you know, there's always so many ups
and downs no matter what, whether it's your own personal
life goals that you.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Are or are not achieving right away.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
And I think that's just like that on going support
no matter what, That unwavering support is just moving forward.
Not to say I'd never had that in my relationships,
but I just want to make sure that it's like,
you know, the key factor I want to be able
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to support someone with whatever they're doing or whatever they love,
and I hope they get the same in return.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
You're right, feeling that support, that unconditional support will lead
you to, you know, feel confident in your relationship. Yeah,
not question anything that your partner is doing.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, and just like you know, love each other for
as much as you know, the positive things that we
bring out one another, as much as our flaws, you know,
I think, no matter what.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
But then you know, that whole thing about really working
on yourself and making sure that you're confident with yourself
before getting into a relationship, that all is key factors
because if you're insecure in yourself, you know, that can
lead to like paranoia in the relationship and feeling like
your partner is doing something to you that they aren't.
Absolutely and just a downward spiral.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Absolutely, which is you know, I think that the best
thing is why I was single because I really needed
to honestly learn that myself too.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, yeah, because I struggled with that.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
What would you say your biggest red flag.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Is mmmm that I shake my stuff sometimes on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I mean, I guess so honestly, honestly, like like when
you think about it, like it kind of is. I mean,
I have fun doing it and like I like laugh
and myself are laugh doing it sometimes. But I'm thinking
about it, I'm just like, oh, like I never had
TikTok during the show, and so like it was a
whole new world to me. But I mean I enjoy
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being like that in relationships and like, you know, not.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
For girls are gonna see what they're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
No, literally, honestly, that's that's gonna be honestly me we date, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
No, but that's good. That's why I think people also
find you so funny because it's very authentic and real,
and the audience can tell and your content isn't authentic,
they can read right through it. Yeah, and it shows
you could tell, you know, some of your content does
better than others because they feel that this video was
more authentic. Okay, this one, I could tell that it
was a post or something like, you know, anything along
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those lines.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I think that that was a tough thing for me
to understand, especially right after the show, because, like we
were saying before, you know, prior to show, I posted
on Instagram maybe once a year, twice a year, for
I don't know, a wedding or Christmas with my family.
And so after it and you know, gaining a following
from the show, I really didn't know what the hell
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the post so here. I was just like trying to
be all cool. He was snapping like a selfie and
I was like, I'm like looking back and I'm like,
oh my god. I was just scared, you know, I
was really scared. And then at one point I was like,
screw it, just like post this weird ash. And I
mean people enjoyed it, which like I appreciate. I appreciate that,
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like people enjoy that stuff. That side of me.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
It's really nice.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
People like to laugh on TikTok too. Some you know,
no one wants to always scroll and see beauty or food, right, Absolutely,
it's nice to laugh a lott it. But all right,
thank you Greg, thank you for such an amazing podcast,
Thank you for having me, Thank you for being on
m m hmm.