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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Misspelling with Tory Spelling an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hey everybody, Alisa Donovan here, I am super excited to
be filling in for Tory spelling the Tory spelling on misspelling.
You all know that because you're listening to the show.
So you may know me from Clueless or Sabrina the
Teenage Witch, or maybe even A Night at the Roxbury.
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But maybe you know me from Beverly Hills Nino two
I know, which is how I know Tory, which is
really probably how I got here in the first place. Anyway,
I digress. What I'm really excited about is who I
am interviewing today. Let me tell you how this gentleman
and I know each other from another little friend Chies
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called the Dog Who Saved.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
And let me tell you something. This dog saved.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Many many many holidays, many many many times. So my
guest today, the wonderful Patrick muldoon is, has been on
Melrose Place, Days of Our Lives. That's really what people
know him from Melrose Days of Our Lives and the
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infamously wonderful Saved by the Bell, which there is something
I am absolutely asking you about that. Oh and Double Scoop,
the movie that we just did together in the summer
for Hallmark.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Welcome Patrick muldoon, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
For having.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
First of all, I'm going to tell everybody that we
have so many.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Movies have we been in together like that?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Maybe yeah, five.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Four or five something like that. Five, and yet we
have never been on screen together. So like, what do
we have to do to get people to let us
talk to each other on camera?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
This is a would be They knew it would be
trouble and that's accurate. So if you have two to
two actors that like to spice things up, you can't
put them in the same scene.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Too much, too too much spice, like too much star power,
too much energy, talent, too much.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Talents, too much pizzazz.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
But when we I remember the first time because I
had a connection to you through the Zappas, because I
know Omit Zappa whom in a very weird way. I
just remembered this when I knew we were going to
talk today. That I know Omit because when I was
dating Jason Bateman, let's take it back, and Jason was
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a good friend of Omit's, and so Jason invited me
to it was somebody's birthday dinner and Omitt was performing
or something, and you might have even be You probably
were there for all I know. But this is like
nay or nineties, like mid nineties.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I didn't know then. Thank god you just because him
during that time period. I never would have allowed him
to date my sister. You would.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Things would be very different today.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I've heard since they've been together. They have two kids together,
Halo and Arrow. But you know, getting to know Omit
over these fifteen years that they've been together, I've heard
of on its nineties pass.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Oh is it sordid?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's I feel like I only met one other one
girlfriend of his.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
It's not like, oh that's not true too.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Lammished, it's scarf. It's it's just rough, and you know,
it's it's any time that there's a movie like a
Homewark or hoggy movies or whatever, you know, usually it's
female lead and they come in and help, you know,
help along the story, I guess, but I always have
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to check with whoever that lead is that they didn't date.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Did they date on it?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
My sister's like, if you hook up with them, do
not You're not bringing them to the house. For the
holidays if it's dated them.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Right, so you have to check your dating. You have
to check whoever you date with. You have to run
it by omit.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, because that would be gross. I don't want to
follow up my law anymore than he wants to. You know, right, right,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Right, I know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I know you.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
So then let's let's let's just talk about famous x'es. No, no, sure,
let's do it. Well, let's do it or not? I mean, listen,
you know how many I have in my closet. It's like,
it's not a pretty closet for everyone.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You have to bulge some I will.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
So there.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I read something, rather, something was fed to me that
I did read that you did Denise Richard's show, her
reality show.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Say you did Denise Richards.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I'm like, you're like, Wow, let's just really with Joe.
This is me, this is podcast me Patrick. Okay, you've
never met podcast Lisa. She's really just like lays it
out there.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
No, I like.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Know that you are.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You are, we're on her reality show, and that her
daughter thinks that you might still.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Have feelings for her. Is this did you read this
and do you think it's accurate and do you have
an opinion?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I can be very specific because my life depends on
it because I am have a girl friend for the
past two years.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
And yes, that's what I thought. But you know, what
is the press know.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
The thing about Dennise and I. Everybody thinks we met
on Starship Troopers, but we met an acting class when
she I'm two years older than her. She was nineteen.
I was twenty one. So we both Wow, I didn't
know that. Yeah, so we both don't come from entertainment families,
and our family got to know each other over the
years and kind of checked in with each other on
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navigating the crazy stuff that we all go through.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
So oh, I love that.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
So so you have like a real, genuine, your relate friendship.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, dear. So we dated in the off and on
in the nineties and uh, you know, and then but
since then it's been just friendship. And and know, Sammy,
that's we are. We are friends.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
That is so I bet maybe Sammy feel it's like
wishful thinking, you know, maybe she's like I wish because
I like this man and he seems to be a
good guy.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
You know, maybe that's sort of where it's coming from.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I don't know. I mean I have a good relationship
with both Lola and Sammy, so yeah, you know, we're all.
I've known them since they were first born and so
have a good relationship with both. Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I didn't realize that you guys had such a different
I mean those kinds of relationships, those kinds of like
friendships and connections in this business are so precious, right,
Like the people that go are going through similar things
of success and challenges and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
And to have somebody that you actually.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Can identify with what you know the journey is and
then also be rounded.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, and with all of us, you know, all of
us are our little nineties click and all that. You know,
we're getting the same types of you know, we're working
for the same producers and networks like that. So you know,
how does this person to work with that? You know,
simple stuff. It's not like for each other's therapists, although
it gets right that way sometimes too. But now Denise
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and I are very tight buddies, and I uh, she's
going through a rough spot right now with everything, which
I guess you to get into. But but I wish
her the best for sure, and you know we're friends. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, I mean it's a it's a.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, it's tough to be in the public eye, and
it's tough tougher now because everybody has access to everything
that you do all the time, even if you try
not to.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
To be Lisa that we didn't have social media.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yes, people, right, I think about that so much, just
even like thinking about how I'm saying, Like with Ahmed
and Jason, I was like, I'm like, oh, invited to
the birthday dinner, but I was like, I can't go
to the dinner because I can't eat in front of
people because I have I have a massive eating disorder,
so I don't eat food public with other people, you know,
like it would have just been so it's like, I
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don't know, I just I think it's got to be
really hard to be, uh, starting out now at this
sort of level of exposure.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
You know, it's like.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
We got to actually do these really fun, high profile
things and then have like and it was it's fun
to be recognized and all those things, but still be
able to like kind of have your own.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Life at the same time. You know. Yeah, it was
like a different thing.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, and really, thank god, I know we were talking
to Amy that there was no social media when I
was in college, So yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Even more really where, Yeah, we're gonna yeah, we're going
to get to the bottom of We're going to bring Amy.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Do you have this guy's phone number in your cell phone?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
No, Amy's like having a coronary over there in the
corner at the thought of it.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So she dated one of my fraternity brothers. Well you
know that, and I haven't been given the name, but
I'm you know, listen, yes she did.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Did she say Jeff No, didn't you you suggest a name?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
She didn't. She did, She did not deny or confirmed
or deny.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I do feel as though Amy is the conduit for
just sort of everything and everyone, I mean there is.
She just knows everybody in some to some degree.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
She knows everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, Amy's a boss, and I'm interested in who this is.
Maybe I don't know them, you know, because in college
it was like.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
She just said, oh no he does. Oh no, it's
like your best friend is he No, She's like, I
don't know. Well, we're going to get to the bottom
of it.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
My best friend's from college, because that would have been
probably a terrible experience for me.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
She's going thumbs up that is accurate. I believe she's that.
I've tried to block it out.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Oh my god, and so it was bad, but it's not.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You look, I have a lot of friends that aren't great.
I mean no, no, my friends are really like me.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
How about Waite.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I do want to say how I loved so we
we shot this movie and then we're going to talk
about really there there there is a real question about
Saved by the Bell that I need to ask you.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
But uh, you know, when we see each other. So
this movie that we just.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Did together called Double Scoop for Hallmark. Patrick is great
in it. I am not great to have a small part,
and I look terrible. So I just wanted everybody to
know I look a lot better in life than in
that movie.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Anyhow ew wow, just no, you.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Look handsome and like try and you're very good in it.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Very funny.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Now you know when we had our premiere, oh that
in the front.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Row, so me too, and first so my neck was broken,
and also to see how terrible I looked at this movie.
But you know what they said that which is true.
That movie is not supposed to be seen on a
big screen. Right, it's only on for television.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Really, that makes me so.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And they did say they did a little bit of like,
you know, magic after that. Now I don't know if
they told my manager that because I was so concerned
about how I liked.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yes, after what.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
We saw, I wasn't so that it was less shocking
when I saw it on TV.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
You did, Oh, okay, you did. Yeah, I didn't see
it on TV yet.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Looking up you know, if we're in the front row,
we're looking up our own noses.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Our own noses, and like a lot of ye see
now I've gotten like so distractedity that I forgot.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
This interview like this.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yes, it really was like I don't think my my neck,
my head, my I was.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Just like, oh my goodness, it's really hard to uh.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Oh, I'm glad. I wasn't glad. I wasn't alone.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
No, yeah, but you know.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
To give everybody their their due. It's I look at
the screen and expect to see me at twenty seven
years old, right, that is a toughie, not fifty seven.
I mean thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Look I'm fifty four. I'm going to start telling people.
I'm like seventy two, so they really say.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Wow, oh she looks amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
What do you what are you eating?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
What are you eating?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, but what I was going to say was I
love that we show up to No, you showed up?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Where were we? Not Kentucky? Because I shot something in Kentucky?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Right after that?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Where do we shoot Alabama? So I show up on
say a Tuesday, I don't remember what day of the
week it was, and have like a fitting and all
the things, and then the next day or was it
that night? No, the next day, I have the fitting,
and then that night we have a like a group
dinner with the cast and the producers and Patrick, so
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we get to see each other for dinner. He like
flew in before shot all of his stuff. The night
of the dinner is his last night. And then my
first day is the next day after this dinner.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So we literated again.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
It got separated again, and it's yes, we get to
have this super fun dinner and then I'm like, oh
my god, I have to work in the morning.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
So maybe that's why I look good in this moving
now and I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
We were hanging out the night before. That's why. Yes, Also,
you always look beautiful.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Dark, very very it's being sweet.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You are gorgeous, so you're very that's.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Great, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
But I remember us like going because we're in the
same hotel and I think we were on the same floor. Yes,
because we got off the elevator, like check your dat
are like talking that. It's like, bye, have a good flight.
You're like have a good shoot, like I will never
once again again we don't get to see each other
and actually work together.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I think we take care of this problem, and maybe
we'll do it on this interview right here. Yes, our
little exchange on what we should pitch.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Okay, let's figure this out.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Or were the leads right? I know that, Yes, it's
usually it's it's the young lovers, right. Maybe we need
an old folks home.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Maybe we maybe we do the Old Folks Home for
the foxy old fogies.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
But I Entertainment's Old Folks Home.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yes, because you know, we both when I had said
to you know my friends about that about this movie,
the Hallmark movie, well, I've aged out of being the protagonist,
and now I'm either the boss of the protagonist, which
is usually the case, or like the person in the
town that is sort of you know, I don't know,
mysterious and weird and comes in and says a thing,
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so and.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Get me killed it and get killed at the end,
and get killed at the end.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I was either the husband or the or the guy
that gets killed by the waife at the end.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Right, So maybe we need to pitch that. It's like
the the hallmark for.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Like a little bit older people.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
You know, it's like we are the two that we're not.
We're not just getting a divorce. Maybe we've been divorced
a couple times, or maybe.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Like what we keep getting wried.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
We meet, we're both getting hearing aids, have the same
doctor and we're in the waiting room.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
That's great. Or I've broken a hip, yeah, and my
knee went out and your knee went out, So we.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Have a surgeon and we fall in love and.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Just getting an epidural in my lower back.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yes, that's exactly look at Christmas, but it's also.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Christmas, Christmas, and it's also Christmas. Yeah, but we have
to talk for a second, like, are we had one
movie series and it's The Dog Who Saved? Yes, Yes,
and seasonal we had seasonal saves.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
We have saved Summer Summer. Uh, we haven't read the
dog that Halloween. Were you in the Halloween one?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, see you Sometimes you don't even
know because we don't get.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I remember you walking by me.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I'm like, hey, yes, right, hey, how are you?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I gotta go to makeup and scenes.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah, see you in two years.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I remember I loved the summer.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Was it the Summer one? Yeah, you were definitely. I
remember the Summer one.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
See each other like you know, ships passing in the
night on that one too. But there was one I
did where I was pregnant, which was another Christmas one,
I think, but I get used because we were outside
at the beach, but I think it was like in
La Christmas and I was literally pregnant with my daughter,
like very very pregnant.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I can't remember what each scenes it was.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
It was the one was with It was the one
with Shelley Long and Mi Michael.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yes, I want to hear a funny story about that.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yes, please.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I'm usually over Lee Tan, so we'll say, what do
you it? But but I'm so happy because I'm a
fan of George Hamilton and so like over the years
with love bites and all those movies when we were
so good. Yeah, he's so good, so classic, so funny.
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So they had me come in and uh, and I
was supposed to bring a suit because the suit they
had for me didn't fit. And so George Hamilton comes
up and goes, patra, I heard you forgot your suit.
I'm like, yeah, god, no problem. He goes follow me.
So in the back of everything, he's got his own room,
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not his dressing room, not his trailer, but he had
his own room there for his clothes that he brought
faced out on the back like six inches in between
were like seven eight suits. And he looks at me
and he goes goes, uh, you're my size without me
trying on, and it fit, Like, butter, are you kidding me?
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I wore George Hamilton's suit playing George Hamilton's son.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Oh my god, that is amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
It was like the best suit I've ever put on.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And he could just like see you and assess your
size and your whole story and he's like, you are
me got it?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Thanks dad?
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I mean what a home run?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I mean how because you know in these movies, we
sometimes the wardrobe can get tricky and they don't always
have necessarily, you know, we got to sort of try
to help out.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
So thank God for.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Surege Penny made suits first of all. But maybe I'll
bring one from home instead, not head against JC Penny suits.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
No, nothing, nothing against.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
All right, tell me, all right, I have to I
am going to read this question off because I was
unaware of this.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
First of all, there were so many things.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
About your career that I did not know or before.
I didn't know that you played football in college. First
of all, I did not. I know that's not a
part of your acting career, but I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I didn't know my acting career from all the CTE
oh from concussions. Yes, they're like action, And I'm like,
You're like, what they're like action? I'm like what.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
What I also didn't know was that you had a
short but memorable stint Unsaved by the Bell, where you
played Jeff Hunter, who tried to steal Kelly from Zach. Now,
even though I did not know this, I know enough
about the world in pop culture to know that people
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are super super attached to Kelly and Zach.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, there's no week that goes by that I don't get.
At least, you know, I'd say one to three, you know, uh,
messages on Instagram. You know, it doesn't matter what my
post is in the contentser like that's that son of
a bitch who stole Kelly from Zach. I hate him.
And then someone will join in and like, I hate
him too. You ruin my childhood. Yeah, but it's cool,
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cool because you did something that people.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Remember, really impacted, made an imprint.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
People are not happy with me.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Still, They're like, gotta hate that guy, me too, How
could they do that?
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Do you ever say, guys, guys, guys, it's not real.
It's TV.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
No, No, I have some I have some prepared answers
for those comments. Uh huh, and forgive me. Forgive me
if it's rude, if it's really rude, you know, and
forgive me, say by the bell audience, because I know
we're all there's no family sexuality. It's where you know.
(22:22):
But I say she loved it, yeah, and that's one.
But I rarely do that one. It's only if somebody's read.
I usually say I was just trying to spice up
their relationship. I did it for Kelly and Zach, for them, Yes,
Zach sees what what you know? How valuable Kellyan's.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
This is a this is a great story.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yes, this is a great support of the Yes.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Well, no, it's a great of the narrative.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It's a great part of the whole narrative here that
you don't you know, can't hated. But you know, I
I really do understand being sort of the bad guy
because that we Yes, I played Ginger la Monica, I
slept with Jason. I made it seem like I was
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sleeping with uh Brian Austin Green's character David. I stole
from Iron's character. I stole from I stole watches, I
smoked weed, I like broke up a lot of things. Yes,
I was like Ginger was on a tear and she
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just pedaled to the medal the whole time.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I was to your actual life. It's so weird.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, well it's really I when I did a couple
of the podcast episodes with Jenny and Torri the rewatch
of nine two and oh, and I was like a
little bit embarrassed by her behavior.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
It had been so long since.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I saw.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
No my behavior like my character's behavior.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I'm like, God, if I had half of the energy
of that person, Like her confidence was like through the roof.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
She had no problem.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Doing any Anybody that meets you thinks that you're without confidence.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
You really, Yeah, when.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
You're in the room, you you are the You are
the light, we are the moths. That's your energy.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yeah, trick, that's so nice to hear.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Oh it's true, it's true.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Oh that's very nice.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And then you try to sleep with everybody and break
them off, and then.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I get real and then break my clothes off. I
just can't stop taking.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That's what I love about you.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
It's one of my favorite qualities of yours. Can't keep
her clothing, so I want to.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
You know, it's funny to talk about all of these
sorts of shows because they're so iconic. But then it's
like when you're talking to a person who's in them,
you don't. It's like people saying.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
To me, like, what's it like to be in clueless?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Like, well, I don't know what it's like to not
have been in it, So it's a weird. And I
don't mean that in a like self inflammatory way. I
just mean it's like part of my life. So for you, Melrose,
place days of our lives, like how I mean, I
am sure, I know it that people still want to
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talk to you about these shows, right, like, how do
you remember auditioning for Melroe's Place or how did it come.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
To you game this way? I was on Days of
Our Lives and those I don't know if it's the same,
but the old school soap contract was three years, right.
They don't pay you for those three years, but they
if you happen, if you happen to exist, which you
have to be very lucky that your storyline takes off
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and in everything.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Wait, wait, wait, excuse me, so sorry you Days of
Our Lives was first oh yeah, first, ye yeah, and
oh and then you went back to it later. Okay, okay,
got it. So they found you. Sorry, I'm telling your
own story. They found you.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
From Dr Life and that was just a audition, and
I remember I was number four out of like seven,
and I was lucky enough to get it, and uh, Melrose.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Place came by in a strange way because back to USC,
Jennifer Grissonte, who were still friends I went to USC
with and she was outside mister's mister Spelling's office and
so we're, you know, we're good enough friends to where
she knew that I was. My contract was coming up?
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What am I going to do? Am I going to leave?
Or am am I going to stay? And in those days,
remember for all of us, it was you either did
daytime or you did my time, or you did no
cross cross, And so you know, I'm like, what am
I going to do? I don't want to go out.
I don't want to be one of those people that
leaves comes back because it's so clear that it didn't work.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Out, you know, right, oh god right, you had to
like think if that's going to be the narrative, it's true.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I didn't know. And so anyway, so Jennifer was mister
spellings secretary right outside his door.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
You're kidding somebody that you went to college?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, And so back then, I don't know if they
still have Q ratings. So my character Austin, you know,
in daytime, Austin Reid was really popular in the Q ratings,
you know. And so she checked them, Jennifer, and she goes, you,
you should see this guy from you know, trying to
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get me a job. Which was what I didn't know
is Candy and Tory were for our live spans. So
once my name started getting big, oh yeah, right, Candy
and Tory told mister spelling, Oh, it's the guy that
plays Austin, and so they kind of gave me the
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vote of confidence and between the two that's all I got.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, I love this.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
And now that you're saying that, I remember when I
did nine O two and Oe Tory talking about like
I remember this, how much she admired you had perhaps
a crush on you.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I just remember.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
On Austin, on the character. I mean, but what also,
seven people? I was like getting hives as you were
saying that, you know, being number four or whatever for
in Days of Our Lives, seven is a is a lot.
When you were going into something like that and knowing
that there are six other people that are just as
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potentially getting this job as you, that is like that
is tough, Like those are very tough odds.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
So whodos? Yeah, that's you know, sometimes it's three or four,
you know, two?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Right?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, seven, that's like an intimidating situation to walk No.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Totally and uh being so green. I was so green,
you know, It's not like I had like experience I
did Save by the Bell, you know, uh, which is.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Totally book Who's the Boss?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
You did I always wanted to be on Who's the
Boss You Got?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
But I was, Yes, I remember seeing Alissa.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I mean I wasn't acting when that show, was like
I don't think you know, I was just starting so
but I remember seeing.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Her at an a at a at.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
A concert in LA before I ever worked, Like I
had just moved to LA and maybe I had done
blossom or I had.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Done like very little.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
And I saw her in the crowd at this concert
and I was like.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Oh, stars, they're just last. This is how I felt.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I couldn't believe that she was at the same concert
that I was at, you know, I was like, oh
my god, I'm close and close.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Cut to a couple of years later, your picture is
in like Okay magazine now getting a coffee, like with
your dog right.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Right with my dog, Like please no photos please? Oh boy.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
This is also what I really wanted to ask too,
Like going into Melrose Place, those those kinds of like
that that show was already established, right and huge, So
you're like walking into an environment that is very much
a well oiled machine. Did you was that intimidating? How
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did people treat you? Did they welcome you? Did you
feel like uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Everybody was really nice, but what you said about especially
because of this mystique about daytime to night time, which
is what was happening. And then in my head, uh,
it was the worst acting I ever did because oh yeah,
because and you understand, you know this, there's some some
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types of things where your job is to relax and
have fun. Yes, now, and that was very much let's
have fun with this unbelievable fun stuff to do. But
I made it a thing in my head, and I
like studied I got an acting.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Such a right trash well because you like really cared,
you didn't want to.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I think it's not and it.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Was not to my benefit on but anyway, who cares
at least people on Filer young and there was lots
of makeup, and thank god that we have a record
of us being young and healthy.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I do think when I look back at like my
work on nine, O, two and O for example, in
a similar I mean these shows also they were very
uh elevated in the drama department. So it was I
kind of watched my work and go I cringe a
little bit too of feeling like I really really was
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like caring big time about this which to your point,
you know, maybe it could have served me to just
sort of exhale a little bit, have fun, you know,
then do it again.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Like I'm not over studying for the dog that saved summer.
I'm prepared as hell. We're both pros.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Because we are always changing the scripts.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, for sure, But our job is if those types
of jobs are like if thes aren't having fun the
audience one Daniel day Lewis the dog exactly exactly. Day
Lewis would probably be terrible on.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Terrible in a dog movie, in a talking dog movie,
he'd probably really suck. But it's true.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Like Gary Valentine and I Gary who played my husband
and all the dog movies, he and I had not
met before, and I.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Think you know the reason.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
I mean, maybe they would have just replaced us, like
they kept replacing our kids in the movies. But we
had such chemistry from the get go, like we would laugh.
The outtakes from those movies are some of my favorite
things to look at because we are like in Tears
where he can't like he makes me laugh to the
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just to the nth degree where I could not stop.
And so I like to your point, yes, I knew
my lines, I knew what I was supposed to do.
I knew who I was and prepared. But like we
just the whole point was for us to be having agreement.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
That's why you're easy, relaxed and and and you know
that is your job. Be prepared, but then show up
and be relaxed and and have with this stuff because
nobody's expecting us to win oscars from our you know.
But right, But that was a that was a lesson
(34:46):
that I learned the heart in public, you know, and people.
You know, I was terrified I wouldn't watch Melrose Place.
I thought I was And now I can look now
I could look back and laugh.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
But then I don't are you saying that? Are you
thinking that people like talked about that you were terrible
on the show or I mean I think everything not
true in my head?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Then after that, after that was Starship Troopers right on
the Tales. So I went daytime night time the movie
you did.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
You literally did the impossible, Because that's the other thing
I was going to say that not only did it
not go did people not go between daytime and nighttime?
It definitely didn't go between TV and films like you
did want to get so blessed lucky.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, so you know that was uh and then the
experience of that was same thing. Oh my god, A
big movie, Paul Verehoven, you know, and I would to
say that I was in entertainment. We were just weren't.
When I was a kid, I was hyperactive, imagine that.
(35:57):
And you know, yes, HyperAct, crazy, talk and so crazy.
I know, it's like so fascinating, but I would go
I wouldn't go to the movies that much. I think
I saw Star Wars, Rocky and Orca growing up in
the Black Stallion, those four movies. You know, it's not
(36:19):
like we had IMDb to know what who the one,
you know, the wonderful directors of the world were. We
got those that education later, you know I did. Anyway,
I'll speak for myself. So I'm from Sam, Peter said,
and I dress like I'm from Sam. Pedro still took
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Pilot Stirri and my girlfriend calls this Pedro tour.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Good tour.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
So yeah, and she asked me not to wear it
in front of her friends.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
But that so you just were public six months, you know.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Starship Troopers was six months of filming and I'm like
this is my life. You know, I never did a
movie that filmed for six months after that.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
But yeah, listen, we we all we don't know it.
I got it.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I don't mean about you. I mean I understand that
feeling very very much. It's been a long long time
since I've done a movie that took six months to shoot.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
You know me too? And yeah, yeah, so I left
Melrose and I went to Melrose in space which is
what Starship Troopers was, which is.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
And did he did Paul Verhoven had he already done basic?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Oh my god? But in some regard, do you think
you would.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Have been more intimidated if you had really kind of
understood the the volume of his work and the sort
of weight of it.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
You Yeah, you're right. I know.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Sometimes it's like it's not bad to not have that
pressure on.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
You put the pressure on myself for Meloe's Place and
took the.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Pressure, but not for pulver Oven.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Well you know, you know, we figure it out as we.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Go, you know, Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well I really
hope that we get to be on screen. Wait before
we wrap up, I want to know about the movies
that you're producing. Now, you have a couple of rather
large projects. Yep, yes, give me the yeah, give me
the rundown.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Okay, So I'm up to net that I really want
to promote. Non So this this year two movies came out.
So I became a producer, really legitimate producer, probably two
thousand and seventeen with this company called Storyboard Long Story Short.
We did Arkansas with Vince Vaughd. We meet a part
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Sir Patrick Kibbler and Elizabeth Costa de Beauregard Siegel. That's
her name, Elizabeth Costa de Beauregard Siegel. She has got me.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
This is this person will never not be important. That
is a very important Ye.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Here comes Pat with Elizabeth Costa and Pet Here comes
to Patrick's and Elizabeth Costa Beauregard Sigl. Anyway, we had
Riff Raffle Jennifer Coola, Jed Harrison, Bill Murray came out
in February and available streaming everywhere. I'm not in it,
just produced it. And then we had the Comeback Trail
(39:36):
that came out this year with Robert de Niro, Morgan Freeman,
and Tommy Lee Jones. So being an actor being on.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Set with the oh my gosh, this is like stuff.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
But anyway, I didn't I didn't act, and oh and
I had one scene in that. But anyway, at least
on movies that are three months as a producer but
not as an act.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I mean, I have a film that I'm trying to
get made that I'm going to direct, and I am
really excited at being on the other side. Not that
I don't love acting, because I do love it very much,
but I'm excited to be on the other side of
the camera in having a different you know, a different
(40:21):
sort of things, but also enjoying it from a different perspective.
So do you feel that way about producing that It's
like it's a different kind of pressure obviously and a
different responsibility. But there's a part that isn't as you
don't have to worry about what you look like.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
You don't have to do it.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
You can like get things done as quickly or you know,
you sort of or more act you have.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
To worry about what you look like. Is a big one.
But the difference is this act it makes you appreciate
go please do this because you'd be a great director,
you know. But producing I love it because we're all
always serving a story. But it's the difference between Hey,
thanks for coming, here's your script, there's your trailer, will
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come get you when we need you. It's a difference
between that and here's the script. Go find two hundred
thousand dollars to pay the riders, there's the trailer, and
everyone else's trailer. Pay find a way to pay for those,
pay for everything else, and pay for the all the actors.
So it's it kind of in a way, I love it,
but it makes you miss acting. It makes you miss will.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Come, oh right, being able to just because I was
going to say, it allows you to utilize so many
other parts of yourself, right that you have to be
responsible for so many different sorts of things. But then
I can also imagine it being like I'd like to
just take a nap in my trailer at lunch and
then be ready to go and have somebody make me
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look good. Then I'll just step in front of the camera.
And then this a way, I suppose that is.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
It, But it's it's all good and all of us,
you and you and I and people like in our
our kind of our colleagues, if you will, we learned
producing by osmosis, you know, yes, And then it started with, Oh,
this movie's ran out of money, do you know financiers?
And it's it totally came from my acting career and
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everything one contribute as a director is going to come
from our love of what we do and.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
One hundred percent and of telling the stories and getting
getting those stories that mean something out into the world,
because I feel like that is such a We're in
a moment where we need stories and we need connection
and people need to come back to this storytelling. Really like,
(42:50):
I feel like we need that humanity and that connectivity,
you know that that they provide. So I'm excited for
with that.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah, and anyway, let's talk. Maybe some of the fans
will pitch us.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah after we do right after we do our meat
cute in the knee doctor's office or what would it
be in the er. Maybe we've both fallen on the ice.
It is Christmas, and maybe I've had one too many
hot Toddies and I fell and hurt my hit.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
My hip, and then you doing the same.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Maybe you're like angry and you're like crotchety, and you
went out to your mailbox to get something out of there,
and a dog ran by and you fell and hurt
your knee and now we're both.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
In the now we're talking. It's a meat cute, it's
a meat I'm like Benezer Scrooge and you're.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
You know, and I'm just like, oh, I've had a
few hot Toddies and I'm feeling great.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
I don't think I can.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Walk, though I need, and I'm like, please, let's just
bail on the cr room and go get more hot toddies.
Reality is they just follows you and I hawking.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
Oh, I think that's more on. I think that's a
great that's it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
No, that's yeah, that's uh well.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I thank you so much for doing this. It makes
me thrilled that I got to spend time with you.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
It's it's like we're.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
On screen together even though we're you know, it's a
split screen.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
We're not acting zoom. We're circling in on it and
we're getting closer. And we will. We will be on
screen together. You hear that.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
We will, Yes, we will, We'll be on screen together.
Very well.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
I love you, as you know, and I was so
excited give Tory my best who I also as a friend.
You know, we've been you know, since we back in
the day. You know, she's just wonderful and I love her.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
I will, I will tell her, and then she'll probably
have you on again when she's back.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Cool, cool, right, all.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Right, I love you too, Thank you so much. This
was super fun.