December 11, 2025 • 15 mins
In a case that eerily mimics the gruesome details coming out of the Brian Walshe trial, a Swiss man has just been formally charged with murdering his wife, dismembering her body, and then dissolving her body parts in a blender. He’s been charged with murder and disturbing the peace of the dead after police say he strangled 38-year-old former Miss Switzerland finalist Kristina Joksimovic and the mother of his two young daughters.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, there, everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It is Thursday, December eleventh, and you know, we have
been immersed in this Brian Walsh trial that's been going
on in Massachusetts, and we've been covering it for you
each and every day. We're in week two of this
trial and the details have been horrific. The motivation and
(00:23):
just how the prosecution is framing all of this and
how the defense is defending Walsh has all been fascinating.
But while we're covering this, there has been a major
headline that has been eerily similar out of Switzerland. A
former Miss Switzerland finalist die more than a year ago,
(00:44):
but this week her husband has been charged with her murder,
and the details, Wow, babe, don't you think that it
is scarily reminiscent of what we're seeing play out in
court in Massachusetts with the Brian Walsh trial.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah. Difference here is this guy said he actually killed
his wife. There's a difference. But the dismemberment and the
horror of someone chopping up their spouse to get rid
of a body in such a way as is disturbing.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yes, because you think it's an anomaly, and obviously it's
incredibly rare, but then to see something so eerily similar
is certainly disturbing. So here's what we do know. And
you said he admitted to killing her, but not initially.
Initially he gave the exact same defense as Brian Walsh.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Which was, well, his was just came home and she
was dead.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
He found her dead, and he's stay, He's like, I
found her dead. I didn't know what to do.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I panicked.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
This is what exactly we're hearing from Brian Walsh as
his defense. Brian Walsh is sticking to his story, and
his defense attorneys are doing a pretty decent, if not
good job, but trying to defend him with that. But eventually,
and we don't know his name, forty three year old
Swiss man. They're calling him Thomas in Swiss documents because
there are Swiss privacy laws that don't reveal his name.
(02:03):
But he eventually, according to police, admitted to killing her.
But he said he only did it in self defense.
The laws in Switzerland are different here than the laws
in the United States, and so the Swiss took their time,
waited for the autopsy results. In this case, they did
have parts of her body and we'll get into that.
But he ultimately admitted to killing her, but only because
(02:27):
he said she was charging him with a knife.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Well, we just got.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Details now from the autopsy and from Swiss officials saying
that they have ruled out his version. They now say
they know how he murdered his wife.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
How strangulation was it not. I don't know how they
could tell Again, they would tell her about the dismemberment,
and it was difficult to understand fully how they were
a lack of a better term, able to piece this
thing together, because it wasn't just a matter of a
body being dismembered. It was mutilated and gotten rid of
in horrific ways to where you wonder how much of
(03:06):
her was left.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yes, and we can get into some of those details.
We're not going to get into all of them. They're
simply too disgusting and gruesome. And in fact, the autopsy
I was kind of my jaw dropped at the detail
they went into and how.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
They described what he did.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
But this to me is fascinating because the whole point
of Brian Walsh's defense, and certainly what's helping his defense
and what's hindering the prosecution, is that they don't have
Anna Walsh's body, and even if he dismembered her, which
he admitted to doing Brian Walsh, and disposing of her body.
Without her body, they cannot determine manner of death. And
(03:44):
if you can't determine manner of death, how do you
prove a murder? That is what's interesting in this case
in Switzerland. They were able to find parts of the body,
and with that, as limited as it might be, they
were able to determine cause and mode of death. That
is what's missing in the Brian Walsh trial.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And look, we've been covering that plenty, and that might
be the very thing that ends up with a potentially
surprising verdict from this jury at the end. Again, that's
not us, that's legal experts saying prosecution has got some
work to do.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yes, certainly so.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
In this case in Switzerland, we're talking about thirty eight
year old I want to make sure we get her
name and who she was and her story. Thirty eight
year old Christina Djoksimovich. She was a two thousand and
seven Miss Switzerland finalist. Her pictures and the videos are everywhere.
She was a gorgeous, stunning blonde woman who actually continued
her passion for pageantry and was a modeling coach and
(04:45):
she you can see her her Instagram is still up
and running, by the way, and you can see her
coaching several Miss Switzerland finalists for the Miss Universe pageants,
and you could see her passion. She's a mom of
two young girls, and people have especially with.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
This new of her husband being charged.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Now it's all over the common section, people extending their condolences,
rip those two poor young girls. All of this is
incredibly sad. But the murder actually took place in February
of twenty twenty four, and here are the headlines are
out there, and they're pretty intense because what police say
(05:22):
he did was strangle her, dismember her, and then take
her remains and put them through an industrial blender. And
maybe I don't know how they were able to time
this out, but they've actually gone so far as to
say in the police report that he was watching casual
YouTube videos on his phone while he was putting his
(05:46):
wife wife's remains in a blender. That's unthinkable.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean, I don't this is this is not normal stuff.
This is Texas chainsaw massacre type.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Things.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
They are discres that something's not right possibly with this
we just don't know, but some of the things being
described are just not stuff you expect from someone you
would attach the label of human.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Being to correct And while you and while they're not
releasing his name because of Swiss privacy laws, there are
pictures out there of the two of them together and
you look at him, good looking guy, muscular guy again,
father of two young girls. This is when we get
into this place, and every time we cover very rare
(06:33):
but headline grabbing crimes like this, you start to look
at the people involved and you think, how did he get.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
To this place? Was he created? Was he born like this?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
How does someone go from being a seemingly loving father
and a loving husband to not just someone who snapped
under pressure or had a bad moment where they there
was a crime of passion. Fine, but then to be
able to go to the links that Brian Walsh is
accused of and now this man Thomas is accused of,
(07:06):
to be able to do that to another human being
to avoid being caught, That's what I think. Just you
can't get inside someone's head like that, or we all
try to for whatever reason we want to understand evil?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah? This is just that this is different from most
crimes we see. We see a lot of horrific stuff
and killings and deaths and all kinds of things. This
is something else. We were talking about a blender, putting
your wife's body in a blender. I mean, you just
start with that, and this is I don't know, this
is beyond true crime. This is beyond what we can comprehend.
(07:45):
This sounds like mental illness. This is just again, it's
just a horrific I guess the details are horrific. If
if this man had just killed his wife, we would
not be here in the United States talking about a
Swiss murder.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yes, and especially given the parallels to what we're seeing
playing out in Courton, Massachusetts, those two. But this one,
I didn't think that it could get worse than Brian Walsh.
We were listening to and seeing the headlines and the
searches this Brian Walsh was putting into his computer, and
that was jaw dropping in to see a story that
actually takes the horror of that to another level. Well,
(08:21):
that's this story out of Switzerland. When we come back,
we're going to talk about how the prosecutor's office described Thomas,
the husband accused of doing these horrific things, and talk
a little bit more about the victim in this case
and who she was and how sad it is that
her life was cut so short at just the age
(08:43):
of thirty eight. Welcome back, everyone to this episode of
Amy and TJ. We are talking about a two thousands
Miss Switzerland finalist who was brutally murdered in February of
(09:05):
twenty twenty four. It's making headlines now this week because
just yesterday, on Wednesday, her husband was officially charged with murder,
and not just murder, he was also charged with disturbing
the peace of the dead. That is the charge in Switzerland,
that's how they call it. But this case is eerily
similar to what we're seeing play out in Massachusetts with
(09:28):
the Brian Walsh trial, where he is accused of murdering
his wife Anna, But more notably, he's admitted to already
dismembering his wife's body and then disposing of her remains.
In that case, they've never found her body, he's never
pointed police in the direction of where it may be,
and therefore they have a very tall order in court
(09:49):
trying to establish cause of death. How did Anna Walsh die?
That's been a really huge battle we've seen play out
in the courtroom where they're struggling with it. They're trying
to to show that he murdered her, but they don't
have a body. In this case in Switzerland with thirty
eight year old Christina Djoksimovich, they do have a body.
But when you hear what he did with her body,
(10:11):
it's remarkable to me that they could figure out that
she died by strangulation. I don't know how this works,
but those forensic scientists are pretty remarkable.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, we have a murder. I don't know what would
have happened if he had gotten rid of her body completely.
We might be in the same position, or the laws
are different over them. Maybe they would not have been
able to even charge the man without the body.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So yeah, it's different from state to state, different from
country to country as to whether or not you can
bring murder charges without a body. But they did find
the body. Again, he dismembered her. But the most gruesome
part of this all perhaps is that he then took
her body parts and put them in an industrial blender,
and police say he was watching YouTube videos while he
(10:56):
was doing this. He has pleaded well, he has admitted
to killing her, but he is saying that it was
in self defense. The prosecutor's office to say that does
not jibe with the forensics and the evidence that they have.
But they noted in court filings they actually got really
specific describing Thomas. This is the husband of the victim
(11:17):
in this case, and they said he displayed when they
interviewed him, a remarkably high level of criminal energy, lack
of empathy, and cold bloodedness. I wonder what a high
level of criminal energy refers to.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Scary. I don't know. I've never heard a criminal described
in such a way. We've heard a lot of stuff,
but yeah, I don't know what they meant if they
use that, they reserve that for very special people, if
that's just a more common term. But I've never heard that.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, I haven't either.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
So I was trying to imagine what that must have
been like for them to stare him down and be
and write that and put that in the notes in
his court filings that they put in there. They do
have two young daughters. They are in the custody of
other family members. But the good news, at least I
can't even imagine. According to reports, it was her own
(12:09):
father who saw evidence that his daughter was dead. He
actually saw some of her blonde hair, and it led
police to figuring out what ultimately happened to that young woman, again,
just thirty eight years old. That is just an unthinkable
I can't get my head around that her own father
is who discovered what may have happened to his daughter.
(12:32):
That is incredibly difficult. Now we don't have a trial
date yet, but certainly that is going to be I
can only imagine a media circus there in Switzerland, because
this is a high profile case that has obviously made
headlines all the way over here in the United States.
But in terms of who this young woman, this mother
of two, and these were young girls, by the way,
(12:52):
her youngest was three and the other one was, I
believe also just in elementary school. So this is Christina
djokas Simovich, and she, as we mentioned, was Miss Northwest Switzerland,
and she was a mentor to several models, but also
a role model to a lot of women just looking
at her Instagram profile.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
But it is just incredibly sad.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Wanted to just talk about this case that, in such
a strange way mimics what we're seeing here in Massachusetts.
But we certainly wish her family the deepest of condolences
and hope that this you know, I did see online
some women's groups just pointing out that this kind of
thing happens, that it seems monstrous. Obviously it is, and
(13:38):
it makes headlines because of how sensationally she was dismembered
and disposed of, but it points to a larger issue
about violence against women, and that this isn't just about
sensationalized media headlines, but about a real problem that when
women are women are in danger, and oftentimes by the
men who purport to love them the most.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
We have to remember. It's always a reminder been like
this my whole career. Newsrooms, Why do we care? It's
not just sometimes because it's sillacious, But when you can
add the fact that she was in a beauty pageant,
you can add the fact that she was blonde, you
can add the fact that her eyes were blue, that
oftentimes or stories they get attention. There are some horrific
details about this one. But at the same time we
(14:20):
want to remember and remind everybody about this happening to women.
Then all of us have a responsibility to talk about
the women who are not just former beauty pageant contestants.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It is true, and you think about the recent stories
that have made headlines, even for instance, the horrific death
on the cruise. We're waiting to see if there are
charges against the stepbrother. But the young woman who was
killed and murdered on that cruise ship, everyone wants to
point out.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
That she was cheerleader. They show her pictures.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
So yes, the more attractive you are, perhaps even the
wider you are, the more attention your murder gets. And
that is incredibly sad to the folks and to the
women and to the people everywhere who have just as
much of a right to be remembered, recognized and to
have justice for their families. And oftentimes media attention like
this does lead to greater justice, better results, at least
(15:13):
for the family to feel like someone cares, police get involved,
and that is a very important point as we cover
all of these stories. So thank you everyone for listening
to us. We always appreciate you. Of course, we'll continue
to keep our eye on the Brian Walsh trial and
bring you the very latest developments on that later today,
so look for that episode. But in the meantime, thank
you for joining us. I'm Amy Roboch alongside TJ.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.
Hey, there, everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It is Thursday, December eleventh, and you know, we have
been immersed in this Brian Walsh trial that's been going
on in Massachusetts, and we've been covering it for you
each and every day. We're in week two of this
trial and the details have been horrific. The motivation and
(00:23):
just how the prosecution is framing all of this and
how the defense is defending Walsh has all been fascinating.
But while we're covering this, there has been a major
headline that has been eerily similar out of Switzerland. A
former Miss Switzerland finalist die more than a year ago,
(00:44):
but this week her husband has been charged with her murder,
and the details, Wow, babe, don't you think that it
is scarily reminiscent of what we're seeing play out in
court in Massachusetts with the Brian Walsh trial.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah. Difference here is this guy said he actually killed
his wife. There's a difference. But the dismemberment and the
horror of someone chopping up their spouse to get rid
of a body in such a way as is disturbing.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yes, because you think it's an anomaly, and obviously it's
incredibly rare, but then to see something so eerily similar
is certainly disturbing. So here's what we do know. And
you said he admitted to killing her, but not initially.
Initially he gave the exact same defense as Brian Walsh.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Which was, well, his was just came home and she
was dead.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
He found her dead, and he's stay, He's like, I
found her dead. I didn't know what to do.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I panicked.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
This is what exactly we're hearing from Brian Walsh as
his defense. Brian Walsh is sticking to his story, and
his defense attorneys are doing a pretty decent, if not
good job, but trying to defend him with that. But eventually,
and we don't know his name, forty three year old
Swiss man. They're calling him Thomas in Swiss documents because
there are Swiss privacy laws that don't reveal his name.
(02:03):
But he eventually, according to police, admitted to killing her.
But he said he only did it in self defense.
The laws in Switzerland are different here than the laws
in the United States, and so the Swiss took their time,
waited for the autopsy results. In this case, they did
have parts of her body and we'll get into that.
But he ultimately admitted to killing her, but only because
(02:27):
he said she was charging him with a knife.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Well, we just got.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Details now from the autopsy and from Swiss officials saying
that they have ruled out his version. They now say
they know how he murdered his wife.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
How strangulation was it not. I don't know how they
could tell Again, they would tell her about the dismemberment,
and it was difficult to understand fully how they were
a lack of a better term, able to piece this
thing together, because it wasn't just a matter of a
body being dismembered. It was mutilated and gotten rid of
in horrific ways to where you wonder how much of
(03:06):
her was left.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yes, and we can get into some of those details.
We're not going to get into all of them. They're
simply too disgusting and gruesome. And in fact, the autopsy
I was kind of my jaw dropped at the detail
they went into and how.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
They described what he did.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
But this to me is fascinating because the whole point
of Brian Walsh's defense, and certainly what's helping his defense
and what's hindering the prosecution, is that they don't have
Anna Walsh's body, and even if he dismembered her, which
he admitted to doing Brian Walsh, and disposing of her body.
Without her body, they cannot determine manner of death. And
(03:44):
if you can't determine manner of death, how do you
prove a murder? That is what's interesting in this case
in Switzerland. They were able to find parts of the body,
and with that, as limited as it might be, they
were able to determine cause and mode of death. That
is what's missing in the Brian Walsh trial.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And look, we've been covering that plenty, and that might
be the very thing that ends up with a potentially
surprising verdict from this jury at the end. Again, that's
not us, that's legal experts saying prosecution has got some
work to do.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yes, certainly so.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
In this case in Switzerland, we're talking about thirty eight
year old I want to make sure we get her
name and who she was and her story. Thirty eight
year old Christina Djoksimovich. She was a two thousand and
seven Miss Switzerland finalist. Her pictures and the videos are everywhere.
She was a gorgeous, stunning blonde woman who actually continued
her passion for pageantry and was a modeling coach and
(04:45):
she you can see her her Instagram is still up
and running, by the way, and you can see her
coaching several Miss Switzerland finalists for the Miss Universe pageants,
and you could see her passion. She's a mom of
two young girls, and people have especially with.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
This new of her husband being charged.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Now it's all over the common section, people extending their condolences,
rip those two poor young girls. All of this is
incredibly sad. But the murder actually took place in February
of twenty twenty four, and here are the headlines are
out there, and they're pretty intense because what police say
(05:22):
he did was strangle her, dismember her, and then take
her remains and put them through an industrial blender. And
maybe I don't know how they were able to time
this out, but they've actually gone so far as to
say in the police report that he was watching casual
YouTube videos on his phone while he was putting his
(05:46):
wife wife's remains in a blender. That's unthinkable.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I mean, I don't this is this is not normal stuff.
This is Texas chainsaw massacre type.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Things.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
They are discres that something's not right possibly with this
we just don't know, but some of the things being
described are just not stuff you expect from someone you
would attach the label of human.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Being to correct And while you and while they're not
releasing his name because of Swiss privacy laws, there are
pictures out there of the two of them together and
you look at him, good looking guy, muscular guy again,
father of two young girls. This is when we get
into this place, and every time we cover very rare
(06:33):
but headline grabbing crimes like this, you start to look
at the people involved and you think, how did he get.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
To this place? Was he created? Was he born like this?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
How does someone go from being a seemingly loving father
and a loving husband to not just someone who snapped
under pressure or had a bad moment where they there
was a crime of passion. Fine, but then to be
able to go to the links that Brian Walsh is
accused of and now this man Thomas is accused of,
(07:06):
to be able to do that to another human being
to avoid being caught, That's what I think. Just you
can't get inside someone's head like that, or we all
try to for whatever reason we want to understand evil?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah? This is just that this is different from most
crimes we see. We see a lot of horrific stuff
and killings and deaths and all kinds of things. This
is something else. We were talking about a blender, putting
your wife's body in a blender. I mean, you just
start with that, and this is I don't know, this
is beyond true crime. This is beyond what we can comprehend.
(07:45):
This sounds like mental illness. This is just again, it's
just a horrific I guess the details are horrific. If
if this man had just killed his wife, we would
not be here in the United States talking about a
Swiss murder.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yes, and especially given the parallels to what we're seeing
playing out in Courton, Massachusetts, those two. But this one,
I didn't think that it could get worse than Brian Walsh.
We were listening to and seeing the headlines and the
searches this Brian Walsh was putting into his computer, and
that was jaw dropping in to see a story that
actually takes the horror of that to another level. Well,
(08:21):
that's this story out of Switzerland. When we come back,
we're going to talk about how the prosecutor's office described Thomas,
the husband accused of doing these horrific things, and talk
a little bit more about the victim in this case
and who she was and how sad it is that
her life was cut so short at just the age
(08:43):
of thirty eight. Welcome back, everyone to this episode of
Amy and TJ. We are talking about a two thousands
Miss Switzerland finalist who was brutally murdered in February of
(09:05):
twenty twenty four. It's making headlines now this week because
just yesterday, on Wednesday, her husband was officially charged with murder,
and not just murder, he was also charged with disturbing
the peace of the dead. That is the charge in Switzerland,
that's how they call it. But this case is eerily
similar to what we're seeing play out in Massachusetts with
(09:28):
the Brian Walsh trial, where he is accused of murdering
his wife Anna, But more notably, he's admitted to already
dismembering his wife's body and then disposing of her remains.
In that case, they've never found her body, he's never
pointed police in the direction of where it may be,
and therefore they have a very tall order in court
(09:49):
trying to establish cause of death. How did Anna Walsh die?
That's been a really huge battle we've seen play out
in the courtroom where they're struggling with it. They're trying
to to show that he murdered her, but they don't
have a body. In this case in Switzerland with thirty
eight year old Christina Djoksimovich, they do have a body.
But when you hear what he did with her body,
(10:11):
it's remarkable to me that they could figure out that
she died by strangulation. I don't know how this works,
but those forensic scientists are pretty remarkable.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, we have a murder. I don't know what would
have happened if he had gotten rid of her body completely.
We might be in the same position, or the laws
are different over them. Maybe they would not have been
able to even charge the man without the body.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So yeah, it's different from state to state, different from
country to country as to whether or not you can
bring murder charges without a body. But they did find
the body. Again, he dismembered her. But the most gruesome
part of this all perhaps is that he then took
her body parts and put them in an industrial blender,
and police say he was watching YouTube videos while he
(10:56):
was doing this. He has pleaded well, he has admitted
to killing her, but he is saying that it was
in self defense. The prosecutor's office to say that does
not jibe with the forensics and the evidence that they have.
But they noted in court filings they actually got really
specific describing Thomas. This is the husband of the victim
(11:17):
in this case, and they said he displayed when they
interviewed him, a remarkably high level of criminal energy, lack
of empathy, and cold bloodedness. I wonder what a high
level of criminal energy refers to.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Scary. I don't know. I've never heard a criminal described
in such a way. We've heard a lot of stuff,
but yeah, I don't know what they meant if they
use that, they reserve that for very special people, if
that's just a more common term. But I've never heard that.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, I haven't either.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
So I was trying to imagine what that must have
been like for them to stare him down and be
and write that and put that in the notes in
his court filings that they put in there. They do
have two young daughters. They are in the custody of
other family members. But the good news, at least I
can't even imagine. According to reports, it was her own
(12:09):
father who saw evidence that his daughter was dead. He
actually saw some of her blonde hair, and it led
police to figuring out what ultimately happened to that young woman, again,
just thirty eight years old. That is just an unthinkable
I can't get my head around that her own father
is who discovered what may have happened to his daughter.
(12:32):
That is incredibly difficult. Now we don't have a trial
date yet, but certainly that is going to be I
can only imagine a media circus there in Switzerland, because
this is a high profile case that has obviously made
headlines all the way over here in the United States.
But in terms of who this young woman, this mother
of two, and these were young girls, by the way,
(12:52):
her youngest was three and the other one was, I
believe also just in elementary school. So this is Christina
djokas Simovich, and she, as we mentioned, was Miss Northwest Switzerland,
and she was a mentor to several models, but also
a role model to a lot of women just looking
at her Instagram profile.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
But it is just incredibly sad.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Wanted to just talk about this case that, in such
a strange way mimics what we're seeing here in Massachusetts.
But we certainly wish her family the deepest of condolences
and hope that this you know, I did see online
some women's groups just pointing out that this kind of
thing happens, that it seems monstrous. Obviously it is, and
(13:38):
it makes headlines because of how sensationally she was dismembered
and disposed of, but it points to a larger issue
about violence against women, and that this isn't just about
sensationalized media headlines, but about a real problem that when
women are women are in danger, and oftentimes by the
men who purport to love them the most.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
We have to remember. It's always a reminder been like
this my whole career. Newsrooms, Why do we care? It's
not just sometimes because it's sillacious, But when you can
add the fact that she was in a beauty pageant,
you can add the fact that she was blonde, you
can add the fact that her eyes were blue, that
oftentimes or stories they get attention. There are some horrific
details about this one. But at the same time we
(14:20):
want to remember and remind everybody about this happening to women.
Then all of us have a responsibility to talk about
the women who are not just former beauty pageant contestants.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It is true, and you think about the recent stories
that have made headlines, even for instance, the horrific death
on the cruise. We're waiting to see if there are
charges against the stepbrother. But the young woman who was
killed and murdered on that cruise ship, everyone wants to
point out.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
That she was cheerleader. They show her pictures.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
So yes, the more attractive you are, perhaps even the
wider you are, the more attention your murder gets. And
that is incredibly sad to the folks and to the
women and to the people everywhere who have just as
much of a right to be remembered, recognized and to
have justice for their families. And oftentimes media attention like
this does lead to greater justice, better results, at least
(15:13):
for the family to feel like someone cares, police get involved,
and that is a very important point as we cover
all of these stories. So thank you everyone for listening
to us. We always appreciate you. Of course, we'll continue
to keep our eye on the Brian Walsh trial and
bring you the very latest developments on that later today,
so look for that episode. But in the meantime, thank
you for joining us. I'm Amy Roboch alongside TJ.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.
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