October 1, 2025 • 59 mins
Tori fangirls out as she sits down with David Howard Thornton, the actor behind Terrifier’s infamous Art the Clown. David opens up about Art’s surprising sexuality, the prank war he has with the actor who played Jason Voorhees, and becomes the first guest Tori has ever asked to “eat” her.
In a shocking confession, Tori admits she finds the blood-soaked villain attractive. And, this horrifically sexy killer clown tells us the lowdown on the soon to be filmed Terrifier 4!
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Hi, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm not gonna lie. I'm really nervous right now.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
You have nothing to be nervous about. I'm just big goober.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I have everything to be nervous about. You don't understand.
I feel like I have met everybody in Hollywood. I
have interviewed. I interviewed William Shatner, and I wasn't as
nervous as I am interviewing you today. When I get
really passionate, I get very I love it. I'm gonna
take it down. Not nervous, Like I'm not nervous. I'm
(00:47):
just like so supremely excited to be here with you today.
And I gotta think, like, when I heard that you
said yes, a piece of me was like, why me?
Why did he say yes to me?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Because it's you. I mean, I've been a fan of
you for a long time. So there you go. Okay,
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I was like, God, I wish I had that on video.
I have that on video, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And I also won huge points with my kids. I
guess I'm not supposed to say that my kids watch
movies like Terrifier, But my kids watch movies like Terrifier.
I'm a huge horror fan and I've been watching scary
movies my entire life. It's my jam, it's my life,
it's my passion. And I vowed not to do that
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to my children and repeat the past because I thought, Okay,
in some ways it's really semi traumatizing. And then an
age like four, they all start watching them. That's a lie.
It was aged two, so we we stumbled upon Terrifyer
like most people did. Correct. I believe it was in
(02:02):
twenty twenty during COVID, and I was like, oh much. Now.
My daughter, who is seventeen, who I'm not kidding, is
terrified of clowns, like terrified her whole life. She would
cry if she saw a clown at a party. We
can't go anywhere where there's anything scary clowns like it's
a thing. But for some reason, Art the clown looks.
(02:26):
She loves you so much. It's like a PowerPoint presentation.
She wrote down questions for you last night.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I love that. Oh my gosh, that's so sweeter.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
She chose to do that instead of her homework. She's
a senior. Sorry as you'll see with my interviews, I'm
kind of all over the place.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
So fine, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yes, should we start at the beginning.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Sure, it's a very good place to start, Huh.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I like that. Okay, So wait, so you were in theater?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And did you ever take like training, like mind classes
or anything.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
No, No, I'm my classroom.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I guess was like the stage and just watching a
bunch of great movies growing up. My parents and grandparents
gave me a great education, especially in comedy. I was
watching like the Marx brother films and Chaplain, Laurel.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
And Hardy as a kid.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
My aunt gifted me a box set of Mister Bean
videos when I was a teenager.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
And I just was obsessed with Mister Bean. Obsessed. I
would watch I probably.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Almost like like wore out the VHS tapes because I
just watch them over and over and over because I
love that style of comedy.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And I just kind of.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Brought that into when I start doing a lot of
community theater back home in Hunt School, Alabama, I did
a lot of children's theater, and kids love physical comedy
over verbal comedy, and so I would just bring a
lot of that kind of Mister Beanish type of quality
to what I was doing, and I just perfected that
over the years of doing stage work, and then after
(04:10):
I moved to New York, I was lucky enough to
get cast in the first five national tours of How
the Grinch Stole Christmas the musical, and our Grinch was
Stephen Carl who was Robbie Rotten from LazyTown, and he
was actually trained in mine in clown work in Iceland,
where he was from originally, and I was his understudies,
(04:30):
so he took me aside and was able to like
fine tune the skill sets I had been developing myself
over the years, and he was like, this is how
you make this better, and so it was. I basically
had a master's class in physical comedy from a great
physical comedian, which was It was great education. And when
I got cast his art I called stepping up. Because
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he was also a big, huge Mister Bean fan. He
always wanted to play one of those like silent mischievous
characters as well, and my bud, I got a chance
to play a character l likeness but in a totally
different way in a horror movie. Can you give me
some pointers here? And he gave me some great pointers,
and I just put a lot of that into art
when I took on art.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I am tripping out right now for art the clown
your inspiration is mister Bean. Yeah, that is so rad.
By the way, mister Bean still holds up because I
played mister Bean for my eight year old recently, and
I'm like, you know, sometimes movies are dated, like yeah,
like my kids, I put on Beverly Hills nine or
two and oh, they're like it's so grainy and slow.
(05:34):
I'm like, okay, thanks, and he's like I love this.
And I was like, oh, that like warmed my heart. Wow,
So was the first movie you auditioned for? It was
like it never happens in Hollywood. No, and wait, did
(05:55):
I read this right? That your agent didn't want you
to do this role?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
That is true? That is very true. No, absolutely not.
I can't even remember her name anymore. I'm just like, yeah,
I just ditched her after the movie relevant, yeah, because
like you steered.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Me down the wrong path because she just wanted me
to focus more on stage work. And I'm like, well,
I had just auditioned for a lot of like Broadway
tours and they all fell through. I was in like
final callbacks and they all fell through, and I'm like, ah,
like that audition came up for terrifying, and I'm like,
this would be just a great way for me to
get my.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Foot in the door in the industry.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I was like, this is I don't know if anybody's
going to see this thing because it's like low budget
independent film, but I'm like, this would be great at
least for you know, a demo reel and I can
get on camera experience and go from there. And she
fought me on it. She's like, I was only paying
you one hundred dollars a day. You don't need to
waste your time on anything like that. And I'm like,
(06:53):
I don't care. I'm not doing anything else right now.
This seems like a lot. It would be a lot
of fun. It would be a great educational experience for me,
and I.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Want to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And I just kept on and on and on, and
she finally relented and submitted me. And she didn't even
tell me I got cast. It was for a few
months because they asked me in the room to come
in for a makeup test and I was like great,
and then I didn't hear anything for a few months,
and I just assumed, oh wow, like how it always
goes like, oh, someone else must have gotten it, move
on to the next thing. And I get an email
(07:23):
from Damien one day asking me to come in for
the makeup test, and I'm in the chair and I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Like, does this mean I have the parties? Like, oh, yeah,
you've had it for several months. I'm like, your agent.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Didn't telling him, Like no, I'm like, why am I
giving this person ten percent?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
It's like did you commission her? Oh my gosh, wait, okay,
so when you went in for the audition, what was
there to work with?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, the original art was Mike Jinnelli, who played him
in All Hallowsy If he was like Damien's best friend
growing up, and he just didn't want to come back
to play the role because if he didn't want to
go to the makeup, he also just wanted to go
on to other things in life and just move on.
And so that I think he's pissed right now, not really,
And we've chatted over the years. Yeah, he's he's, he's
(08:06):
he's he's started doing some conventions himself and he's having
fun doing that.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So it's worked out.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
But He's like, if I knew one day make it
into the box office, I would have done.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
It's like, oh, well work for me. But yeah, but
I went in there.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I knew who the character was. That's why I wanted
audition for it too, because when I saw all Halis
Eve a few years before, I was like, this character
is like an evil mister bean this is and I
saw the potential there of like, god, I would love
an opportunity to play a character like that. There's so
much I could do with him.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And in the in the audition, I.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Know later on though I did. I was like yeah,
but I was like, so I knew.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Who Art was, but I didn't get any sides for
the audition. So I walked into the audition room. All
these other people have scripts in their hands. I'm like,
oh god, I'm a stupid agent. Of course he didn't
send me a script.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Great really wanted to sabotage you.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
That's not what happened. It's just they just didn't send
out scripts for Art.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
They called me at the room and I'm like, I'm sorry,
I never got a script, Like, oh no, you're not
supposed to get a script.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Art doesn't talk.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I'm like, cool, they were there for other characters.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, so there everybody else was all these other characters.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
So I was like, well, great, so what what can
I do for you guys? Like and Damie's like, just
come up with a scene where you decapitate somebody and
you're happy about doing it.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And good night to me.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I just had to improvise that audition right there on
the spot, and it's online, you can look it up.
But I like a quick summation of it. I did
this whole thing where I just kind of cartoonishly snuck
up behind my victim and like took out a slicehammer.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, just a whole creeping.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Like knocked him out, sawed off his head, picked it up,
and tasted the blood and I did like the So
I took out a salt shaker and seasoned it, tasted again,
gave it a thumbs up, and skipped out of my
merry way. And that's what got me the role. Right there,
They're like, can you come in for a makeup test?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
And I'm like, absolutely, that never happens. Though that never happens.
It's like you.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Usually have to go in for several callbacks and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, I wonder did that like not jade you, but
like I don't know, like my first series for ten seasons.
So after I've dumb not char I'm like, ohoh it's
super easy. You do a pilot goes on for ten years,
and then like I did pilot, after pilot didn't get
picked up, I'm like, oh, here's the reality.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, Like but it didn't really jade me too much though.
I was I just considered myself like you because I had,
you know, about thirteen years of just pounding the pavement
in New York City, you know, getting up at you know,
four o'clock in the morning just to go sit in
a line, just to hope to get.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Seen at an open call audition.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
So it was like I had done my years of
you know, hard work trying to get there.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
So I was like this, I just consider myself being
finally fortunate.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Oh my gosh, sorry I got distracted. You're so stinking cute,
Like it's hard to think that you're like the most
modern iconic villain right now, horror villain. This is crazy,
But I personally maybe I'm sick. I find art kind
of hot.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So luckily my girlfriend does too, so I'm lucky.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
She ever asked you to role play in bed?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Oh no, no, no, no, she's over here, like covering
her mouth, not go oh my god.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
How long have you guys been together?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Oh, we've been together officially for about six months, I
would say now, but we've known each other for about
a year. So it's we met at a convention and
kind of hit things off.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Conventions are nice, right are They're fun? I don't know
what it's like for you. It's probably a whole different
type of convention for you than it is for me.
Like I have my mind's very niche like and so
it was yours. But you know, I have like the
nice nineties, you know, moms they're with their kids and
they're like, oh, we love Donna Martin and you you
(12:20):
have all the sickos that are in line for you, right.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
You could be surprised though. It's like the hard community is.
I think they get such a bad rap.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
People think they're a bunch of sickos and stuff like that,
but they're like one of them.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, I'm proud to be a weird. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I think we're just you know, a lot of us
were the ones that were always made fun of in school,
and so these are like, the horror fans are some
of the nicest, most genuine people you'll.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Meet out there.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
They're like because I've know, it's a difference between like
going to like regular you know, geek cons, comic cons
and stuff like that versus arts. There's a different camaraderie
there with the fan base. It's like a close are
knit a bunch of people that it's it's there's a
I don't know, I can't really describe it, but it's
like it's more of a family type of feeling.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Everybody's like, oh, hey, it is right.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It's so interesting you say that because I I'm part
of the horror community and I got into it through
doing immersive experiences Oh Fun, which I love, and met
you know, everybody in the horror industry, horror fans, and
they soon became this little family for me, and I
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realized it's they're a lot nicer than like, you know,
even like the mom groups that I was friends with.
You know, it's like the horror community like really supports
each other and in some way we're all like a
wonderful bunch of misfits. That's really what it is, and
I love it. And I for me personally, Sorry, this
(13:58):
is about you, not about me, but it's about me,
so anyway, for me personally, I just feel like I
was I came out of the womb basically in the
public eye because of my dad and then as Donna,
so I felt like I always had to be the
good girl, you know. I was always on and well
(14:18):
I am a very nice, kind person. It was an
escapism for me to be a part of the horror community.
I was accepted not because of who I was, It's
because what my similar passion was, right, and I really
I love them very much. So I just wanted to
say that, oh I do how long? I know everyone
(14:41):
and the brothers ask you this or sister, how long
does the prosthetics take?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
That takes about an hour and a half now to
do When we first.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Started, then no, that's nothing. When we started, it took
about three or four hours.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
But we did it a whole different process, and we've
streamed over the years because we found out certain things
work better. And we originally had a gelatin mask that
I wore and it was very heavy and it would
fall apart very easily because of moisture or whatever.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And now we've switched to a phone Latex.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Mask, which is much lighter and goes on much better
and holds up so much better.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
So I like it. I've I've had more Latex.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
One more time phone Latex. That was really sexy.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
What do you wear under the costume?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I just wear like a T shirt and like shorts.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, but if but it also depends, like sometimes we're
in like you know, cold, cold, cold settings, so they'll
give me like thermal underwear and long John's or whatever
to wear underneath, So something to keep me warm, because
a lot of times we filmed in winter in like
New York City, Philly, New Jersey area, so it gets
really really cold, especially when you covered.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
All that blood.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah. When you're inside, though, isn't it hot? Like you
don't ever just want to like free ball it inside?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Especially in that Santa coastum, it will get really hot.
In part three when we're doing the interior scenes in
the houses, I would sometimes just in between takes, have
to just step outside into the cold winter air and
just I would have steam just coming off of me.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Okay, so you mentioned number three which is Christmas focused. Yes,
how much flak my daughter wanted me to ask you this. Sorry,
do you feel like you guys got a lot of flack?
It is rare in poor history that a child is massacred,
and you guys went for it and did it.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, but you know that's horror for you. You got
to push the boundaries there. You got to push that envelope.
You got to keep trying to innovate and find new
things to shock people and.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
You know, surprise them.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
And though you look at a lot of horror movies,
they're the premise of most horror movies, especially Slashers, involves
children or at least teenagers, which are children.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
But you look at you know, pet cemetery.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Children, we are cemetery. I love pet cemetery.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Oh my gosh, you engage. I mean, Miko is so scary.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, God, still a ship the bed. She didn't ask
you the right question, damn it.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
But even my dad hasn't seen Part three because like
I hear you kill kids and he's like, I don't
want to see that. I'm like, well, you don't see
them die on screen, but it's implied.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Oh yeah, there's like limbs and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Oh so I'm at Bill Diamond at a convention, and
first of all, I lost my ship because of Fraggle Rock,
which is lost my ship, like I could not. I
was acting even less cool than I'm acting with you
right now. And yeah, and then I got to sit
in a chair. Oh my gosh, all the terrifier stuff.
(18:20):
I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I'm speaking out over all the hints and stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Because we filmed out there at his workshop in I
think it's Long Island, and when we were there, he
has a lot of.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
The different muppets still in there. I got to oh
my god.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
He told me it's insane there.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yes, it's absolutely insane.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I was. I was like, I felt like the kids
in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Seeing the chocolate factory
for the first time, I was like, this is amazing.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
This is my childhood. I got to hold Rizzo.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
The rat, I got the hold Red, I got the
hold Kermit's hand. I was I almost started. I was like,
this is I know, this is just a puppet, but
this is Kermit. It was It was Steve Whitmeyer's Kermit,
and I was like, this is amazing. But they were
also when we were there filming, they were refurbishing big
bird refurbishing like image, more more feathers on him, and
(19:19):
like fixing him up.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And I'm like, do you think do you think big
bird modern day would have extensions?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Probably?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
But I actually had like one of the feathers fell
on the ground and I kept it because it's a
big bird feather. I'm like, so I still have it
somewhere in my far Yeah. I'm like, this is is
big bird. This is the real big bird.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I'm that is so wild. I don't know. They always say,
like when you spot a feather or find a feather,
it's good luck you have big Bird's feather. You're like
next level.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, I was. I was. I was so happy. I
was like, this is amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Oh my goodness. Okay, can I ask you another one
of Stella's questions? Sure, okay, she has now she had,
Like really I was impressed with her questions. And I said,
but keep in mind, he is the actor. He plays
art the clown like it. He's not the creator and
the writer. Even though I'm sure you have so much
(20:17):
input at this point.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
It happens more when once we get on set, like improv. Yes,
there's a lot of like, especially if it's more like
the comedic scenes, Damie gives me a lot of free
range to just play around.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Do you feel like they've gotten less comedic than the
first one.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I feel like they've done a little bit more comedic
in some ways.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Really, yeah, I think that the first was like when
Damien wrote the first one, he didn't know me at
the time, and so it was more serious, and I
just started bringing more comedy into the character and that,
and so when when he wrote part two, he knew
my style, and so he deliberately wrote certain scenes in there,
(21:02):
like the costume shop scene, in the clown cafe scene,
where I could really just play around and do some
funny things. And of course in part three he did
that as well with the mall scene, in the bar
scene with Santa Claus.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I think as a fan sometimes I'm distracted from the
comedy with the grotesque, like right, although you want to
hear like my sorry, this is kind of gross. I
love this stuff so much that so we rewatched Terrifier
(21:37):
three last night. We've seen all three, but we rewatched
it because it's a way to bond with my family
because my kids are on phones all the time and
ignore me now, and I have mostly teenagers. So when
I said I was interviewing you, I was like, do
you want to watch it again? And they were like, yeah,
of course. I was like cool. So I actually made
dinner while we watched Terrifier three, and I it was
(22:00):
fun because I was massaging my meat while I was
watching you eat people basically oh and I yeah, didn't
turn me off. I still chow down on that beef
and broccoli when it was.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I've had that same realization though, Like when I first
when I was about to do like Film Part one,
I was like, how am I going to be able
to eat on these sets with all these like appendages
and blood and everywhere.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
It's kind of gross me out. But it doesn't. I
don't know what's wrong with me.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Now I can sit here and watch a horror movie
with people being eviscerated.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I'm still I'm sitting here eating a hamburger and laughing
my head off, and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Oh no, what does that say about us? I know, hmmm,
I don't know. My my eighteen seventeen year old thought
this was funny recently, And there's this online kink test
that they made me do, which I was like, oh no,
and yeah, apparently I'm a masochist rope bunny brat. I
(23:08):
don't know. Okay, yea, I'm gonna put that on my resume.
So well, yeah, but there must be something. I wonder
what it is. Someone that's like not grossed out by
something really sick who okay she? Oh? Oh? Sorry. While
I'm on the topic of cooking dinner, do you feel
like Art cooks?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Oh? Definitely.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
What would be his favorite dish to cook?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I would say probably, uh, like, you know, lady fingers
or some kind of kid's meal, you know, yeh, cheese.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I didn't see that one coming, like chicken nuggets.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Chicken nuggets, chicken nuggies. I do love my chicken fingers,
so dem yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
My girlfriend's laughing at me because I usually my Southern
accent usually comes out when I say chicken fingers, and
so she's like, oh no, I just spit out her drinks.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Up spectaci funny.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, I hope, I hope it continues. I think it
not your relationship. Sorry, I do hope your relationship continues.
But it's hard, you know, hearing someone's humor. I was
married for almost nineteen years, so eighteen years. Sorry, look
at me? Are forgetting? It was no and you know
(24:35):
my husband towards and he like, you just don't find
me funny anymore. I'm like, no, it's not that. It's
that I don't have to expand the energy and laugh
out loud. We have five kids. I'm laughing on the
inside to conserve energy because I'm making dinner. Okay, back
to dinner. So you okay, So Arts wait, so do
(24:59):
you feel like art is? I mean, he's a carnivore.
Do you feel like he likes sushi?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Though? I think he actually kind of would because he
eat like when I think about it, he when he
eats people, he's not cooking people. He just eats some raw.
So I think he'll be fine with like sushi.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Oh, you're right.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Raw.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
That was remember when that was in. That was like
the raw trend.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah I didn't do that, no, no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
But it wasn't even Yeah I tried, I tried, but
it wasn't. It was more like vegetables looking fancy and stuff.
I'm not. Are you a meat eater?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I am? Yeah, it's vegan.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
And you had to play this role.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Oh my gosh, that's the fight.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
It's like most of the well, especially on the first film,
Jenna and Catherine are both vegan, and we've had several
other people in said are vegan, and it's like, oh boy,
it's gotta be fun for you.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
But I think that's why they like doing the pizzeria scene.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Because they could actually have food on set and it
was actually vegan. They had like, you know, just cheese pizza,
so they're.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Fine, David, cheese is not vegan.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I know, that's right, but they're more vegetarian, I guess.
So yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I eat everything. Yeah, wait, what is the stuff you
eat when you're like eating intestines and stuff?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Is usually like the intestines, I usually just pretend I'm
eating something.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
It's just like, you know, something my soul.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I know, to know that you chewed up and swallowed something.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
No. And but when Lauren, when Lauren had to bite
through that intestine, it was like a gummy intestine and
it had like gummy like yeah like carry yeah, like
gummy stuff and it had like cherries or something like that.
So it looked like fecal matter and stuff coming out
of it. So there was they want to do nutella
but she's like, do not ruin nutella for me, Please,
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do not put Nutella in this because I love Nutella
way too much and I will be traumatized from Nutella
from now on.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, so she had it worse than I did.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I also love to talk about Poopsie. Just be my day. Okay.
So Stilla wants to know will Art the clown ever
take off the mask or is that just what he
looks like.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I believe that's what he looks like because at the
beginning of part one you see him applying makeup and
you see he's got like skin tone, natural skin tone,
and that's you see his bone structure there. But that
might be something we explore more in part four, because
I know Damian's going to explore his origin at the
beginning of the movie.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
So yeah, because I want to know, wait, is there
going to be like a young Art.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I don't know yet. He's not telling me anything until
he's done with the script, which is.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Driving all of us in the cast crazy right now
because we in the past few films he's shared with
us while he's writing ideas and everything. This time he's
just keeping silent and just writing, and he wants to
surprise all of us. So I'm wanting to know because like,
over the years, he and I have discussed so many
different origins for the character. So I'm very interested to
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see where he's landed. So I'm wondering if we're going to.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
See a younger art or what. I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
This is your best poker face? Are you telling me
the truth?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I am telling you the truth. I have no idea.
I'm like, hurry up, man, write the script. I want
to read it.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Do you know when you guys are going to film?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Like around when I think he's saying early next year
that we're going to start filming, so he so I
guess you know we'll find out.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Do you think you could put a good word in
for me? Of course, I don't even have to be
like a big character like I just want you to
eat me. That didn't come out right, that.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Have a slip on aisle four?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Oh dear uh no, But I like you can kill me.
You could, you could. I could just be like or
I could just be like a background player. I don't know.
I just want to be on step with you guys.
I just.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
That's the most wild thing about this is how many
people have. Everyone asks you, they're like, can you kill me?
I'm like, that's that's wild, Like people just all over
the industry especially, I don't want to name names. It's
like there have been like some big names, and like,
are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
This is insane.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Absolutely, So you're saying I don't have a chance.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
No, there's always a chance. There's always a chance.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Who knows. Maybe Demians secretly was a Donna Martin fan
Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And I know it's always possible.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You never know.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
You grew up with like older sisters that could.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Be my endy.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
There you go, there you go, because he had, like
all he was the only a man in the family.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
So is his mom and his sisters and him. So
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
There was some nine O two one oh playing on
TV when he was growing up.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Okay, okay, I'll be stalking him later. Okay, well you're
probably gonna get into this. And four and I know
you don't know, but Stella is asking why doesn't Art
speak can't say why does he kill people in horrific
ways that she thinks are almost artistic ways? And her
(30:41):
theory is his name is Art because in his world,
she came up with this whole. I was like, I'm
proud of you girl, like she came up. She's like, actually,
if you think about it, and if you take all
the horror and grotesque killings away, they're actually very creative
ways that he kills people, and that's his and art
is subjective, you know, like it's your own interpretation. So
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is this his artistic expression? Such the name art.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
That's kind of how I look at It's like performance
art for him, and that's how I went in looking
at this character. I was like, Okay, he's a clown,
but he's actually that anti clown.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
He does all this.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
There was a great line that the homeless lady, the
cat Lady Puya in the in the first film set
is like he does this because he thinks it's funny.
And I'm like, that's that's what I was really able
to understand the character with that one line. I was like,
ok I can build so much off that one line.
It's like, yeah, he's the anti clown. Clowns are supposed
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to be here to bring joy and amusement to other
people for everybody else's pleasure.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
There's curious they don't bring joy.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
No, But that's what they think they're doing. Right.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Art is here to bring pain and misery to everybody
else around him for his own selfish amusement. He's basically
always performing for an audience of one himself. He's a
very selfish character, and that's how I look at Like,
all these kills he's.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Doing is pure entertainment for him. He has fun. This
is just him performing.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Oh my gosh, makes him thick.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
It's he's not doing out of revenge or anything like that.
It's just pure fun for him.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, it's random, right, Yeah, it's very Yeah, Oh my gosh,
that was amazing. Sorry. I was really sad to see
Vicky die because I thought, like, I mean, I was okay,
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So I was happy for her. She really wanted to
die and she couldn't kill herself. But I was happy
she's finally dead. But although, yeah, I don't know. I
thought they were really great and I really wanted them
to have a baby.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Open the most fucked up child.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Art plus Vicky equals love. They were like soulmates, Yeah, soul.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
He was basically her baby because she birthed his head.
So right, it's kind of messed up.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Oh, what is that Oedipus complex you know that works. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I was really sad. I thought that's where it was going.
Mm hmm, Like I don't know. I was like, Okay,
something's gonna happen, and I feel like I didn't expect
her to die, and I was like, oh, there's going
to be like a mini art born and that's going
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to be your child, that's going to like be with you.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Oh that would have been a fun idea, that would
have been fun.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well I'm happy to fill in in number four and
birth your child, all right, Well Damien know, okay, see
I'm just thrown out ideas. We never know what it'll sick, right,
you know, yeah, who knows?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I think I'm very I've had five I am in menopause,
but nothing matters in these movies. You know, it could
be one hundred and have a baby.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
So yeah, exactly. It's like the things that like Damien
has come up with, the like the ending that we
originally had for part three was so much more dark
and twisted it we had to we had to cut
a lot of that out because we were just running
out of time. We only had a few days to
film that whole scene, so we had to make massive
cuts to that scene, but it got so much darker.
(34:38):
We were doing so much worse things to Gabby, but
I don't want to say what they are because he
might put them into Part four for all I know,
So I have no idea. But he wrote some very
twisted and dark things. And that's where even while we're
filming just what we had filmed, Damy at one point
is like, this is getting way too dark. We need
something to lighten the mood. Dave, every time you go
(35:01):
by Lauren, just slap her in the head, and I'm like,
you know, so literally doing slapstick comedy in this scene.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
So like it, And that's something I've know.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
We get a lot of praise for all these people
that love that bit where I just keep slapping her
in the head every time I walk by her. And
I felt so bad for poor Lauren because we had
to do so many different takes from so many different angles,
and she was so just tired and exhausted, and she's
she already had a stress headache and I'm just having
to slap her in the head. I'm like, I am
(35:34):
so sorry about doing this for you. I'm like but
that's Damien. He's he comes off some really creative things,
morbid things, but also that are sometimes just really funny.
I don't know where it comes from, because he is
like the most normal guy when you meet him in
real life.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I see, I love that, though, well he's the creatives, Like, yeah,
something bad, Like why do you think Art let Gabby lives?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Are we talking about get like the little Girl? Yeah,
I don't know, I don't I don't know. I mean
I think there might.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
He could come back and before pretty much pretty much well,
I know, like the whole point of that was to
do stuff because like we were doing worse stuff to
Gabby in that scene, which of course didn't make it
the screen.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
But like sexual stuff, No, definitely not that. That's because
I've gotten that question before.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
It's like kind of like how what art is about him?
Like is I don't even see him being a sexual
creature at all? I see him very asexual. That's like
that's something he's gree Yeah, he's something. He's above all
of that. I mean because some people as he gays,
he's straight up like, I don't think he's any of that.
He's just purely asexual. He's just Art, and I don't
think that's one thing I expressed, like, I don't want
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him to do anything like sexual.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I don't want him raping anybody or anything like that because.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I don't think that's I think that he's above something
like that. That's something that is just not something he's
not interested in doing. So, of course, nothing like that.
But it was like for Gabby, it was more about
just the base seeing her just like just horrible things
happening to her to really psychologically damage Sienna because they
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needed her to be at her most vulnerable state, just
break her mentally, so Vicky, the entity inside of Vicky
could finally possess Sienna understood.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah, Like when we did part one, we were just like, well,
we hope someone sees this movie and maybe if people
like it, maybe we'll make a second one. We were
spitballing so many ideas for a possible sequel, but like the.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Only thing we knew is that we knew we wanted
to bring in a kick ass, like like female protagonists
to come in because we are the one thing I
was always wanting is like Art needs the Batman to
his joker, and someone that's that balance to him and
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Sienna is actually a character Damien created even before he
came up with the character of Art, it was just
a really badass warrior chick and he's he always wanted
to bring her to life, and so he finally had it, thought, well,
I can bring this character into this and that's who's
going to be the Batman to Arts Joker being into
his Yang.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
That is very cool. So Halloween Hornin, Yeah, there's Terrifire,
which insane. I mean obviously you've been there.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, I am one to the the La one on
opening night, and I'm going to try to go to
Orlando at the end of October because I'm going to
be down there for Spooky Empire.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Nice he went on opening night, were people on line
like what the heck.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I was sa and like, oh gosh, I've never experienced
anything like that before. That was my first real red
carpet event, and I was kind of overwhelmed because I
went to a Halloween Hard Knights last year, not on
the red carpet. I just walked around with friends and
I would get recognized here or there, but this time
it was like a mob of people falling us everywhere
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we went. But yeah, it was it was just crazy.
We had people following us everywhere. So like when we
got to the Terrifier House, there was a huge mob
of people already just waiting in line. They didn't know
we were coming through it, but it was like, I
see if people. It was a four hour wait.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
I was like, this is insane.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
And then we go through and they just go crazy
when they realized that we were there.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
It was I've never experienced anything like that.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
It was you must tell the Scare actors that you're coming, right,
I would.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Just I would think, so, I think, so you could
tell them.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I'd be nervous if I was playing at the Clown
as one of the scar actors at Halloween Hornites and
you were there, I'd be like, oh my god, am
I doing it right? Is he going to be crust?
Is he any think I suck?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:09):
They did great job.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I actually got to meet some of the Scare actors
a few weeks prior because I was at Midsummer Scream
in Long Beach and they came by my table and
like hey, they introduced themselves.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
And like can you give us some tips?
Speaker 2 (40:23):
And I gave him some little tips about, you know,
his mannerisms, how he walks and how I basically I
told him when I took him on, because I looked
at the nose, especially of the character. I was like,
he kind of looks like a vulture, and he's kind
of a scavenger. He's always scavenging things for his tools
and everything like that, and he eats flesh, he heats
(40:44):
the dead, the things he's killed. So he's like a vulture.
So I based a lot of his movements off of
a vulture, Like how vultures only.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Just bursts of prey.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
In general, the first thing that moves is their eyes,
and then the head moves, and then the body moves,
and so that's what how I approached Art. When he's
in hunting mode, his eyes moved than the head moves
and the body moves, and he has that hunch when
he's in he's like hunch like a vulture. And so
like I just told him those kind of little things.
That's how I approached him. When he's in certain modes. Now,
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when he's joking around, he's more standing up straight, more jovial,
but then he gets serious and goes in hunting mode
like that.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I'm obsessed with you, Thanks no, because it's so smart,
like what you bring to art since you like punts.
There you go, wait, I heard you get wet. No,
(41:45):
I gotta stop doing this at this at the terrifier
one at Halloween horns him. My gosh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
You a little little damp in there.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
More so I think in the Ordlando one because they
have two routs can go through. Yeah, but the one
here in La I still got a little damp going
through it. There's a few rooms where you get sprayed
with things.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Which is there smell no, oh, yes, the.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Smells there is, especially in the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
So I heard there's like smells like.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Smell like the bathroom smelled like a homeless man.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
It reminds me of the few times when I lived
in New York, get being on the subway and there's
a homeless person on the subway and you see the
subway car pulled up and you.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
See it empty, or like, oh, don't go in that
subway cart. It would just smell so bad. And that's
what that room reminded me of, was just horrible smelling
subway cars when someone had just been sitting there sitting
their own feces or something like that.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Poo poo, that's the best all around weed. So it's
like fart spray, yeah, but worse my kids are with
fart spray.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Oh yeah. Oh so is Caine Hotter, the guy you
know the main and Boorhes. He's he.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
We've been having a prank war with each other over
the past few years because he likes to get people
with fart spray, and I've been retaliating against him. I've
gotten him back a few times with other pranks. So
one time I put a fart machine in his trash
can at his table, but I put it between the
can and the liner, so if he looked in, he
didn't see the fart machine. And so when it was
a little quiet and they're out, hit the button and
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make it go off. And I was sometimes handing to
my assistant and they would do it. So he'd look
over and I'm signing and he's like, how is he
doing this?
Speaker 3 (43:30):
I know it's him.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Oh my god. I love him too. And the fact
that you guys have a prank war going on on,
do you have like a private text chain as well?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
No, we just prank each other at the commit because we've
seen each other all the time. So we have fun
with each other.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Oh my god, he got me.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Also this year Texas Fright Maer when I was signing
at the table.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
It's on video.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
He's snuck up behind me and just scare the shit
out of me, and I just scream.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Oh my gosh, what does your scream sound like?
Speaker 3 (44:00):
At that time, it wasn't too great, was that?
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
It was? It was. It was wild. It's like if
you had told myself, and like when I was.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
A kid growing up, that I would be in the
middle of a prank war with Jason Borhies, I would
have said, you're you're shitting yourself.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
So I was like, this is It's very surreal. It's
a very surreal moment.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
If you told me five years ago i'd be interviewing
you on my own podcast, I'd be like, what, this
is a surreal moment for me. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
H life's crazy.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
It can go any direction.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
I think I manifested this because I wanted to meet you,
and here we are. It worked out right, it did,
Oh my gosh. So what's next for you? Do you
want to do a wrong com I would.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
I would love to get back into comedy again. I
missed doing comedy because that was my thing. I was
a musical theater nerd and I was a comedy nerd.
That's all I did on stage. I never really did
dramatic works. I because I like to make people laugh.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
That's that's my calling in.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Life, is to make people laugh, bring joy to people.
So I'm like, yeah, but of course I would do
like a rom com. But I mean, I I I've
got a few.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Other horror projects coming up.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
I'm filming something in November, but I can't say where
that is yet, but he's gonna be very prosthetic heavy.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
But I mean, of course I want to break out
of horror. I would. Of course, my dream role is
playing the Joker.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I mean, I really want to be James Gunn's Joker
in the DCU because I I love what he's.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Been doing with Oh. I love what he did with
Guardings a Galaxy first of all, but like what he's
been doing with the DCU, as.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
He's so character driven with his films and he understands
that the funness that is with comic book movies and
TV shows, and I would I feel like he could
do a lot of fun things with Joker, and I
would love to be his Joker because I want to
bring a comic book version of the Joker to life
that's not really been done since Caecia Romero's Joker in
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the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
I would really love that. I would really love that,
So that would be Also I'm trying to manifest that.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I were going to manifest it. What do you mean
it's happening. It will already happening. But I love wait
so like a musical, like a musical comedy, like what
would what would you do if they were to make
a movie?
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Oh my god, I mean I would because Little Chapahrs
Is one of my favorites. I love that seeing would
be something like Little Chaps, like some kind of horror
thinged musical comedy or something like that.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
That would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
You just can't get away from the horror.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
I can't. I can't.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
It is now it is. It's funny how that is
because I grew up. I didn't really watch a lot
of horror movies growing up because my mom was so
afraid of horror movies. She thought The Vincent Price Fallow
The House of Usher was the scariest movie she had
ever seen.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
So if she was still Live Today. She was like,
I would love I love you, baby, but no, I
am not watching these.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Oh my gosh. And I loved Abbit and Costello when
they had like the Storm.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
They're so good.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
It's like, I that's something I would love to do, Like, like,
you know, a scary movie. I'm like, I'm so excited
because I hear there's a room that the Art is
going to be in Scary Movie.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
I heard.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
I hear the rumor that Chris Elliot is playing Art
in Scary Movie six, which makes me so so happy
because I've I've been a huge Chris Elliot fan since
way back in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
That would make that would be great. So I was
in I was in Scary Movie Too, which was the
Chris Elliot one. Yeah. Yeah, so he he's so talented
and so nice. He's great, but it's.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Funny, and I'm like, if anybody else is going to
play Art, I'm so happy would be him because I
I love him so much.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Oh I love that if Art sing a song, like
if he spoke, what song would it be?
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Ah, the sound of silence?
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Like that would be Art's karaoke song.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Yeah, hello Darkness, my old friend.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
You know you came up with that too.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Best.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
You've been asked that question before.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
It's just something I thought about.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
I thought, No, that's actually something I thought about years
ago because I was like, because one of those character
things a lot of actors like to do is like
what would be on a character's playlist or what song
would they sing?
Speaker 3 (48:34):
And I was like, that would because I I especially
with him.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
It's the irony of that, that's I think it would
be great on.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Your resume, not the resumes even exist anymore.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
That the right.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
What are what? What are your special talents?
Speaker 2 (48:52):
I do over two hundred voices. That's the irony of
me being known for playing a silent character. I do
over two h voices about twenty five different dialects.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
It's it's my.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Autism superpowers, I tell people, because it's just like I
don't know how I do it.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
It's just that I've done since I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
That is so cool. Wait, anything else, like do you
play the flute or anything?
Speaker 2 (49:17):
I played piano, but not like you know, like an expert.
I just do it for shits and giggles. I haven't
played it in a while. I need to get back
into doing that. But I'm like, Yeah, I used to
be like very very limber, but now that I've hit
my forties, I can't.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
I'm not as double jointed as I used to be,
which sucks.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
But double jointed. You should do Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Season thirty four's on right now. Oh my god, people
would forget well Prettysney plus like show with ABC and Hululan.
Maybe yeah, but gosh, a.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Ballroom dance back in college. I used to do a
lot of back in the day.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
I used to it, especially because when I was in college,
that's when swing dancing came back into style, like late
like ninety eight, and I did a lot of swing
dancing back in the day.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
I used to love that.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Wow, you're a man of many talents.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah, that's That's the family I came from is they
all had lots of abilities. They all teachers and engineers,
but they all had like artistic abilities as well.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
So I guess we're like, you know, a family of
Rinds on some men.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah, I love that. Do you think they'll ever make
an animated series of Terrified with arts clans?
Speaker 3 (50:38):
It would be cool? Cool. I love something like that.
I would do the voice for art, but I would.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Love Look, yeah, you might not have a job if
they did that, well.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
I could come in voice everybody else maybe just for fun.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
It'd be like really cool to do this dark comedy
like Mister Rogers but Art the Clown.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Oh mister Arts Neighborhood or something like that, like.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
And it seems like it's just like one of those
oh the Cloud.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Cafe basically, yeah, yeah, that'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Would you ever do a reality show besides sans Hoopstairs
and which on?
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah, if I did a reality show, I would want
to do something maybe like Traders or something like that,
because I really I've enjoyed that show that's been a
lot of fun, or something like like The Mole or
something like that, like something like there it's not just
people sitting around in a house and just bitching at
each other. I like to do something where that, like
there're fun games you're playing, there's some kind of goal.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
But that's why I like The Mold. There's like a
mystery you're trying to solve the whole entire time.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Who's who's the one that's writing everybody else out and
here screening everything up like that.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
That's why I like the traders like.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Oh, who who's trying to be great?
Speaker 3 (51:58):
I love that show. And plus I love Alan Comings
so much. Oh my god, he's so awesome. I think
they I think it would.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Be really cool to do a show like that with
a bunch of horror actors and who Who's the killer?
Speaker 1 (52:12):
I think that would be a great idea.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Yeah, I feel like they haven't really done reality. I mean,
like scare tactics are like, you know, like but not like,
because there's so.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Many great horror actors out there, and it's like that
gives them all a chance to like all come together
and do something fun like that. It's like, yes, but
you have all the victims, you have all the villains,
you have the heroes and heroines. You could bring all
you know, all these years of horror movies. You could
There's so many people you could use for something like that.
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It'd be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Well, News Slash, you're the it guy right now, so
you should make that happen.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Oh my gosh. Okay, and so you have a new project.
What about Screamboat Scream? Oh yes, that's doing well.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
There might I have not seen it? Oh no, I'm
it is such a silly movie.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
It's it's it's kind of like that goofy type of ridiculousness,
like the Leprechaun movies were you know it's it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
Of fun movies.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Oh I do too, especially the Vegas one. I think
that one's so funny.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
Well so where wait, where can everyone watch screen Boat?
Speaker 3 (53:30):
I believe it's on most stream pops.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
I know it just got put on Peacock a few
weeks ago, so it's definitely on Peacock now.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
Think it's a.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Fun, little, crazy little movie, especially if you're a Disney fan.
It's got so many Disney Ace Triggs throughout it, and
I'm a I'm a big, huge Disney fan, so I
I I was so excited just to do it because
it was kind of a full circle moment for me
to play Willie because my first role I.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
Ever really did, like big role, was in middle school.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
My high my middle school choral program did Mickey's Christmas Carol,
and I was bullied a lot in middle school. I
was very shy and quiet, and my mom I.
Speaker 3 (54:16):
Was very funny at home, just always doing.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Crazy character stuff and my mom was like, you you
need to let your classmates see the side of you.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
I think that will change things for you. And she's like,
your school's doing Mickey's Christmas Carol. You do a great
Mickey Mouse voice. Why don't you audition for it?
Speaker 2 (54:32):
And so I did and I got the role and
that was That's the show that gave me my love
for making people laugh, because things went wrong during the
show and I started improvising right there on the spot,
like the set fell down and Scrooge and I and
I'm like, oh, mister Scrooge, I think we have rats,
and Audis laughed.
Speaker 3 (54:49):
Then our table broke during the crash at family dinner
and shot the little chicken we had over the audience.
I'm like, what, I guess we're having fast through to min.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
It was like and when I was laughing, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, for the first time at this school,
I have people laughing with me instead of at me.
And I'm the one with the power right now. I'm
in control and I'm loving this. And that's what I
was like, Mom, I want to do more of this.
I want more of this. And so that's why she
started getting me involved with community theater and so being
(55:21):
able to come back and play a different version of
Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 3 (55:26):
Was a dream come true for me in a lot
of ways because it was a nice little throwback to
where I.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Started my origin in a lot of ways. And so
I didn't even see the script. When the director came
to me, it's like, I want you to play Willie.
I'm like absolutely, absolutely, And then I saw the script
and I'm like, oh, this is a fun script. It's
very creative in a lot of ways. I had a
lot of fun doing that film. And I know we've
(55:53):
been shooting around ideas for a possible sequel, so hopefully
that can manifest itself.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
Too awesome.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
Yeah, to say it's happening, it's happening. The sequel's happenings,
and the works gont happen. Okay, I've taken up enough
of your time. I could talk to you all day long,
but will you leave us on this? Will you do
a voice please that we'd be surprised to know that
you do. And you just said you do over two
hundred and twenty would you say you do?
Speaker 3 (56:21):
Yeah, over two hundred voices? I lost count years ago.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
I have a YouTube video I did, like when I
did my first year on Grinch, back in twenty ten,
I did about on.
Speaker 3 (56:31):
One hundred and ten voices in nine minutes, just back
to back, So a lot of cartoon characters.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
So I mean, like a book of world record shit there.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
I know. I think mel Blank had me beat, but you.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Know, oh him, oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:47):
But of course I was like, it's probably a lesser
known character unless you're a child of the eighties like
I am.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
But it's from Ninja Turtle series of Kraying. I just
always loved that voice, like.
Speaker 3 (57:01):
You those.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Yeah, my mom thought I was crazy because I would
do that voice with the figures, like what is wrong
with you?
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Oh my gosh. So you would have action figures and
do the voices out loud, Oh my god, brilliant.
Speaker 3 (57:20):
I would do that. I would just sit there and
just do all the character voices.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Or I would make my own shows up on the spot.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
And puff the magic dragon. But you're too hrutuff really.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
Hr puffs and stuff.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
Yeah, my gosh, that was my face, that witchy woo. Well,
I'm an action figure. Can I call you Dave?
Speaker 3 (57:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (57:47):
Sure, I'm just kidding. Okay, Hey Dave, what voice would
you do for me if you had my Donna Martin
action figure.
Speaker 4 (57:59):
I god, tur me shopping bitches. I don't know, nice,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
Yeah, it's like more like the female voices I do,
or like you know, like you know, like.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
Mama Clumpy's gay as I was a good old classic
Eddie Murphy, you know.
Speaker 1 (58:30):
The best.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
Oh I love that classic Eddie Murphy. That's that's another
topic for another day.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
Oh well, thank you so much. I really appreciate this.
Speaker 3 (58:43):
You're welcome. This was fun.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
Okay, good, I'm glad you have fun. I know, I
know you talk about art all the time.
Speaker 3 (58:50):
So it goes with the territory.
Speaker 2 (58:54):
Territory, terrifiartory, I don't know, yeah, territory, yeah, territory too.
Speaker 3 (59:00):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1 (59:02):
Territory.
Speaker 3 (59:03):
Oh, there's there's something there. I know.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
Well, we'll just scuss offline. I'll d m you.
Speaker 3 (59:08):
Yeah out.
Speaker 1 (59:12):
Thank your girlfriend for bearing with my uh my humor today,
which yeah, it wasn't intended, of course, it was intended.
Speaker 3 (59:21):
Good.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
Thank you, have a great day you too.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
You take care bye, all right bye
Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Hi, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm not gonna lie. I'm really nervous right now.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
You have nothing to be nervous about. I'm just big goober.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
I have everything to be nervous about. You don't understand.
I feel like I have met everybody in Hollywood. I
have interviewed. I interviewed William Shatner, and I wasn't as
nervous as I am interviewing you today. When I get
really passionate, I get very I love it. I'm gonna
take it down. Not nervous, Like I'm not nervous. I'm
(00:47):
just like so supremely excited to be here with you today.
And I gotta think, like, when I heard that you
said yes, a piece of me was like, why me?
Why did he say yes to me?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Because it's you. I mean, I've been a fan of
you for a long time. So there you go. Okay,
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I was like, God, I wish I had that on video.
I have that on video, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And I also won huge points with my kids. I
guess I'm not supposed to say that my kids watch
movies like Terrifier, But my kids watch movies like Terrifier.
I'm a huge horror fan and I've been watching scary
movies my entire life. It's my jam, it's my life,
it's my passion. And I vowed not to do that
(01:39):
to my children and repeat the past because I thought, Okay,
in some ways it's really semi traumatizing. And then an
age like four, they all start watching them. That's a lie.
It was aged two, so we we stumbled upon Terrifyer
like most people did. Correct. I believe it was in
(02:02):
twenty twenty during COVID, and I was like, oh much. Now.
My daughter, who is seventeen, who I'm not kidding, is
terrified of clowns, like terrified her whole life. She would
cry if she saw a clown at a party. We
can't go anywhere where there's anything scary clowns like it's
a thing. But for some reason, Art the clown looks.
(02:26):
She loves you so much. It's like a PowerPoint presentation.
She wrote down questions for you last night.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I love that. Oh my gosh, that's so sweeter.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
She chose to do that instead of her homework. She's
a senior. Sorry as you'll see with my interviews, I'm
kind of all over the place.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
So fine, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yes, should we start at the beginning.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Sure, it's a very good place to start, Huh.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I like that. Okay, So wait, so you were in theater?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And did you ever take like training, like mind classes
or anything.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
No, No, I'm my classroom.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I guess was like the stage and just watching a
bunch of great movies growing up. My parents and grandparents
gave me a great education, especially in comedy. I was
watching like the Marx brother films and Chaplain, Laurel.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
And Hardy as a kid.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
My aunt gifted me a box set of Mister Bean
videos when I was a teenager.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
And I just was obsessed with Mister Bean. Obsessed. I
would watch I probably.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Almost like like wore out the VHS tapes because I
just watch them over and over and over because I
love that style of comedy.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
And I just kind of.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Brought that into when I start doing a lot of
community theater back home in Hunt School, Alabama, I did
a lot of children's theater, and kids love physical comedy
over verbal comedy, and so I would just bring a
lot of that kind of Mister Beanish type of quality
to what I was doing, and I just perfected that
over the years of doing stage work, and then after
(04:10):
I moved to New York, I was lucky enough to
get cast in the first five national tours of How
the Grinch Stole Christmas the musical, and our Grinch was
Stephen Carl who was Robbie Rotten from LazyTown, and he
was actually trained in mine in clown work in Iceland,
where he was from originally, and I was his understudies,
(04:30):
so he took me aside and was able to like
fine tune the skill sets I had been developing myself
over the years, and he was like, this is how
you make this better, and so it was. I basically
had a master's class in physical comedy from a great
physical comedian, which was It was great education. And when
I got cast his art I called stepping up. Because
(04:52):
he was also a big, huge Mister Bean fan. He
always wanted to play one of those like silent mischievous
characters as well, and my bud, I got a chance
to play a character l likeness but in a totally
different way in a horror movie. Can you give me
some pointers here? And he gave me some great pointers,
and I just put a lot of that into art
when I took on art.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I am tripping out right now for art the clown
your inspiration is mister Bean. Yeah, that is so rad.
By the way, mister Bean still holds up because I
played mister Bean for my eight year old recently, and
I'm like, you know, sometimes movies are dated, like yeah,
like my kids, I put on Beverly Hills nine or
two and oh, they're like it's so grainy and slow.
(05:34):
I'm like, okay, thanks, and he's like I love this.
And I was like, oh, that like warmed my heart. Wow,
So was the first movie you auditioned for? It was
like it never happens in Hollywood. No, and wait, did
(05:55):
I read this right? That your agent didn't want you
to do this role?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
That is true? That is very true. No, absolutely not.
I can't even remember her name anymore. I'm just like, yeah,
I just ditched her after the movie relevant, yeah, because
like you steered.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Me down the wrong path because she just wanted me
to focus more on stage work. And I'm like, well,
I had just auditioned for a lot of like Broadway
tours and they all fell through. I was in like
final callbacks and they all fell through, and I'm like, ah,
like that audition came up for terrifying, and I'm like,
this would be just a great way for me to
get my.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Foot in the door in the industry.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I was like, this is I don't know if anybody's
going to see this thing because it's like low budget
independent film, but I'm like, this would be great at
least for you know, a demo reel and I can
get on camera experience and go from there. And she
fought me on it. She's like, I was only paying
you one hundred dollars a day. You don't need to
waste your time on anything like that. And I'm like,
(06:53):
I don't care. I'm not doing anything else right now.
This seems like a lot. It would be a lot
of fun. It would be a great educational experience for me,
and I.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Want to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And I just kept on and on and on, and
she finally relented and submitted me. And she didn't even
tell me I got cast. It was for a few
months because they asked me in the room to come
in for a makeup test and I was like great,
and then I didn't hear anything for a few months,
and I just assumed, oh wow, like how it always
goes like, oh, someone else must have gotten it, move
on to the next thing. And I get an email
(07:23):
from Damien one day asking me to come in for
the makeup test, and I'm in the chair and I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Like, does this mean I have the parties? Like, oh, yeah,
you've had it for several months. I'm like, your agent.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Didn't telling him, Like no, I'm like, why am I
giving this person ten percent?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
It's like did you commission her? Oh my gosh, wait, okay,
so when you went in for the audition, what was
there to work with?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, the original art was Mike Jinnelli, who played him
in All Hallowsy If he was like Damien's best friend
growing up, and he just didn't want to come back
to play the role because if he didn't want to
go to the makeup, he also just wanted to go
on to other things in life and just move on.
And so that I think he's pissed right now, not really,
And we've chatted over the years. Yeah, he's he's, he's
(08:06):
he's he's started doing some conventions himself and he's having
fun doing that.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So it's worked out.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
But He's like, if I knew one day make it
into the box office, I would have done.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
It's like, oh, well work for me. But yeah, but
I went in there.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I knew who the character was. That's why I wanted
audition for it too, because when I saw all Halis
Eve a few years before, I was like, this character
is like an evil mister bean this is and I
saw the potential there of like, god, I would love
an opportunity to play a character like that. There's so
much I could do with him.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And in the in the audition, I.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Know later on though I did. I was like yeah,
but I was like, so I knew.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Who Art was, but I didn't get any sides for
the audition. So I walked into the audition room. All
these other people have scripts in their hands. I'm like,
oh god, I'm a stupid agent. Of course he didn't
send me a script.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Great really wanted to sabotage you.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
That's not what happened. It's just they just didn't send
out scripts for Art.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
They called me at the room and I'm like, I'm sorry,
I never got a script, Like, oh no, you're not
supposed to get a script.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Art doesn't talk.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I'm like, cool, they were there for other characters.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, so there everybody else was all these other characters.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
So I was like, well, great, so what what can
I do for you guys? Like and Damie's like, just
come up with a scene where you decapitate somebody and
you're happy about doing it.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And good night to me.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I just had to improvise that audition right there on
the spot, and it's online, you can look it up.
But I like a quick summation of it. I did
this whole thing where I just kind of cartoonishly snuck
up behind my victim and like took out a slicehammer.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, just a whole creeping.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Like knocked him out, sawed off his head, picked it up,
and tasted the blood and I did like the So
I took out a salt shaker and seasoned it, tasted again,
gave it a thumbs up, and skipped out of my
merry way. And that's what got me the role. Right there,
They're like, can you come in for a makeup test?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
And I'm like, absolutely, that never happens. Though that never happens.
It's like you.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Usually have to go in for several callbacks and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, I wonder did that like not jade you, but
like I don't know, like my first series for ten seasons.
So after I've dumb not char I'm like, ohoh it's
super easy. You do a pilot goes on for ten years,
and then like I did pilot, after pilot didn't get
picked up, I'm like, oh, here's the reality.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, Like but it didn't really jade me too much though.
I was I just considered myself like you because I had,
you know, about thirteen years of just pounding the pavement
in New York City, you know, getting up at you know,
four o'clock in the morning just to go sit in
a line, just to hope to get.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Seen at an open call audition.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
So it was like I had done my years of
you know, hard work trying to get there.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
So I was like this, I just consider myself being
finally fortunate.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Oh my gosh, sorry I got distracted. You're so stinking cute,
Like it's hard to think that you're like the most
modern iconic villain right now, horror villain. This is crazy,
But I personally maybe I'm sick. I find art kind
of hot.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So luckily my girlfriend does too, so I'm lucky.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
She ever asked you to role play in bed?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Oh no, no, no, no, she's over here, like covering
her mouth, not go oh my god.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
How long have you guys been together?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Oh, we've been together officially for about six months, I
would say now, but we've known each other for about
a year. So it's we met at a convention and
kind of hit things off.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Conventions are nice, right are They're fun? I don't know
what it's like for you. It's probably a whole different
type of convention for you than it is for me.
Like I have my mind's very niche like and so
it was yours. But you know, I have like the
nice nineties, you know, moms they're with their kids and
they're like, oh, we love Donna Martin and you you
(12:20):
have all the sickos that are in line for you, right.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
You could be surprised though. It's like the hard community is.
I think they get such a bad rap.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
People think they're a bunch of sickos and stuff like that,
but they're like one of them.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, I'm proud to be a weird. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I think we're just you know, a lot of us
were the ones that were always made fun of in school,
and so these are like, the horror fans are some
of the nicest, most genuine people you'll.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Meet out there.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
They're like because I've know, it's a difference between like
going to like regular you know, geek cons, comic cons
and stuff like that versus arts. There's a different camaraderie
there with the fan base. It's like a close are
knit a bunch of people that it's it's there's a
I don't know, I can't really describe it, but it's
like it's more of a family type of feeling.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Everybody's like, oh, hey, it is right.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It's so interesting you say that because I I'm part
of the horror community and I got into it through
doing immersive experiences Oh Fun, which I love, and met
you know, everybody in the horror industry, horror fans, and
they soon became this little family for me, and I
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realized it's they're a lot nicer than like, you know,
even like the mom groups that I was friends with.
You know, it's like the horror community like really supports
each other and in some way we're all like a
wonderful bunch of misfits. That's really what it is, and
I love it. And I for me personally, Sorry, this
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is about you, not about me, but it's about me,
so anyway, for me personally, I just feel like I
was I came out of the womb basically in the
public eye because of my dad and then as Donna,
so I felt like I always had to be the
good girl, you know. I was always on and well
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I am a very nice, kind person. It was an
escapism for me to be a part of the horror community.
I was accepted not because of who I was, It's
because what my similar passion was, right, and I really
I love them very much. So I just wanted to
say that, oh I do how long? I know everyone
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and the brothers ask you this or sister, how long
does the prosthetics take?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
That takes about an hour and a half now to
do When we first.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Started, then no, that's nothing. When we started, it took
about three or four hours.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
But we did it a whole different process, and we've
streamed over the years because we found out certain things
work better. And we originally had a gelatin mask that
I wore and it was very heavy and it would
fall apart very easily because of moisture or whatever.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And now we've switched to a phone Latex.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Mask, which is much lighter and goes on much better
and holds up so much better.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
So I like it. I've I've had more Latex.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
One more time phone Latex. That was really sexy.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
What do you wear under the costume?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I just wear like a T shirt and like shorts.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, but if but it also depends, like sometimes we're
in like you know, cold, cold, cold settings, so they'll
give me like thermal underwear and long John's or whatever
to wear underneath, So something to keep me warm, because
a lot of times we filmed in winter in like
New York City, Philly, New Jersey area, so it gets
really really cold, especially when you covered.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
All that blood.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah. When you're inside, though, isn't it hot? Like you
don't ever just want to like free ball it inside?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Especially in that Santa coastum, it will get really hot.
In part three when we're doing the interior scenes in
the houses, I would sometimes just in between takes, have
to just step outside into the cold winter air and
just I would have steam just coming off of me.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Okay, so you mentioned number three which is Christmas focused. Yes,
how much flak my daughter wanted me to ask you this. Sorry,
do you feel like you guys got a lot of flack?
It is rare in poor history that a child is massacred,
and you guys went for it and did it.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah, but you know that's horror for you. You got
to push the boundaries there. You got to push that envelope.
You got to keep trying to innovate and find new
things to shock people and.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
You know, surprise them.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
And though you look at a lot of horror movies,
they're the premise of most horror movies, especially Slashers, involves
children or at least teenagers, which are children.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
But you look at you know, pet cemetery.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Children, we are cemetery. I love pet cemetery.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Oh my gosh, you engage. I mean, Miko is so scary.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, God, still a ship the bed. She didn't ask
you the right question, damn it.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
But even my dad hasn't seen Part three because like
I hear you kill kids and he's like, I don't
want to see that. I'm like, well, you don't see
them die on screen, but it's implied.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Oh yeah, there's like limbs and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Oh so I'm at Bill Diamond at a convention, and
first of all, I lost my ship because of Fraggle Rock,
which is lost my ship, like I could not. I
was acting even less cool than I'm acting with you
right now. And yeah, and then I got to sit
in a chair. Oh my gosh, all the terrifier stuff.
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I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I'm speaking out over all the hints and stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Because we filmed out there at his workshop in I
think it's Long Island, and when we were there, he
has a lot of.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
The different muppets still in there. I got to oh
my god.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
He told me it's insane there.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yes, it's absolutely insane.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I was. I was like, I felt like the kids
in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Seeing the chocolate factory
for the first time, I was like, this is amazing.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
This is my childhood. I got to hold Rizzo.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
The rat, I got the hold Red, I got the
hold Kermit's hand. I was I almost started. I was like,
this is I know, this is just a puppet, but
this is Kermit. It was It was Steve Whitmeyer's Kermit,
and I was like, this is amazing. But they were
also when we were there filming, they were refurbishing big
bird refurbishing like image, more more feathers on him, and
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like fixing him up.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And I'm like, do you think do you think big
bird modern day would have extensions?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Probably?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
But I actually had like one of the feathers fell
on the ground and I kept it because it's a
big bird feather. I'm like, so I still have it
somewhere in my far Yeah. I'm like, this is is
big bird. This is the real big bird.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I'm that is so wild. I don't know. They always say,
like when you spot a feather or find a feather,
it's good luck you have big Bird's feather. You're like
next level.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, I was. I was. I was so happy. I
was like, this is amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Oh my goodness. Okay, can I ask you another one
of Stella's questions? Sure, okay, she has now she had,
Like really I was impressed with her questions. And I said,
but keep in mind, he is the actor. He plays
art the clown like it. He's not the creator and
the writer. Even though I'm sure you have so much
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input at this point.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
It happens more when once we get on set, like improv. Yes,
there's a lot of like, especially if it's more like
the comedic scenes, Damie gives me a lot of free
range to just play around.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Do you feel like they've gotten less comedic than the
first one.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I feel like they've done a little bit more comedic
in some ways.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Really, yeah, I think that the first was like when
Damien wrote the first one, he didn't know me at
the time, and so it was more serious, and I
just started bringing more comedy into the character and that,
and so when when he wrote part two, he knew
my style, and so he deliberately wrote certain scenes in there,
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like the costume shop scene, in the clown cafe scene,
where I could really just play around and do some
funny things. And of course in part three he did
that as well with the mall scene, in the bar
scene with Santa Claus.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I think as a fan sometimes I'm distracted from the
comedy with the grotesque, like right, although you want to
hear like my sorry, this is kind of gross. I
love this stuff so much that so we rewatched Terrifier
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three last night. We've seen all three, but we rewatched
it because it's a way to bond with my family
because my kids are on phones all the time and
ignore me now, and I have mostly teenagers. So when
I said I was interviewing you, I was like, do
you want to watch it again? And they were like, yeah,
of course. I was like cool. So I actually made
dinner while we watched Terrifier three, and I it was
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fun because I was massaging my meat while I was
watching you eat people basically oh and I yeah, didn't
turn me off. I still chow down on that beef
and broccoli when it was.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I've had that same realization though, Like when I first
when I was about to do like Film Part one,
I was like, how am I going to be able
to eat on these sets with all these like appendages
and blood and everywhere.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
It's kind of gross me out. But it doesn't. I
don't know what's wrong with me.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Now I can sit here and watch a horror movie
with people being eviscerated.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I'm still I'm sitting here eating a hamburger and laughing
my head off, and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Oh no, what does that say about us? I know, hmmm,
I don't know. My my eighteen seventeen year old thought
this was funny recently, And there's this online kink test
that they made me do, which I was like, oh no,
and yeah, apparently I'm a masochist rope bunny brat. I
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don't know. Okay, yea, I'm gonna put that on my resume.
So well, yeah, but there must be something. I wonder
what it is. Someone that's like not grossed out by
something really sick who okay she? Oh? Oh? Sorry. While
I'm on the topic of cooking dinner, do you feel
like Art cooks?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Oh? Definitely.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
What would be his favorite dish to cook?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I would say probably, uh, like, you know, lady fingers
or some kind of kid's meal, you know, yeh, cheese.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I didn't see that one coming, like chicken nuggets.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Chicken nuggets, chicken nuggies. I do love my chicken fingers,
so dem yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
My girlfriend's laughing at me because I usually my Southern
accent usually comes out when I say chicken fingers, and
so she's like, oh no, I just spit out her drinks.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Up spectaci funny.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, I hope, I hope it continues. I think it
not your relationship. Sorry, I do hope your relationship continues.
But it's hard, you know, hearing someone's humor. I was
married for almost nineteen years, so eighteen years. Sorry, look
at me? Are forgetting? It was no and you know
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my husband towards and he like, you just don't find
me funny anymore. I'm like, no, it's not that. It's
that I don't have to expand the energy and laugh
out loud. We have five kids. I'm laughing on the
inside to conserve energy because I'm making dinner. Okay, back
to dinner. So you okay, So Arts wait, so do
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you feel like art is? I mean, he's a carnivore.
Do you feel like he likes sushi?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Though? I think he actually kind of would because he
eat like when I think about it, he when he
eats people, he's not cooking people. He just eats some raw.
So I think he'll be fine with like sushi.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Oh, you're right.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Raw.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
That was remember when that was in. That was like
the raw trend.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah I didn't do that, no, no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
But it wasn't even Yeah I tried, I tried, but
it wasn't. It was more like vegetables looking fancy and stuff.
I'm not. Are you a meat eater?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I am? Yeah, it's vegan.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
And you had to play this role.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Oh my gosh, that's the fight.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
It's like most of the well, especially on the first film,
Jenna and Catherine are both vegan, and we've had several
other people in said are vegan, and it's like, oh boy,
it's gotta be fun for you.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
But I think that's why they like doing the pizzeria scene.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Because they could actually have food on set and it
was actually vegan. They had like, you know, just cheese pizza,
so they're.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Fine, David, cheese is not vegan.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
I know, that's right, but they're more vegetarian, I guess.
So yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I eat everything. Yeah, wait, what is the stuff you
eat when you're like eating intestines and stuff?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Is usually like the intestines, I usually just pretend I'm
eating something.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
It's just like, you know, something my soul.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I know, to know that you chewed up and swallowed something.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
No. And but when Lauren, when Lauren had to bite
through that intestine, it was like a gummy intestine and
it had like gummy like yeah like carry yeah, like
gummy stuff and it had like cherries or something like that.
So it looked like fecal matter and stuff coming out
of it. So there was they want to do nutella
but she's like, do not ruin nutella for me, Please,
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do not put Nutella in this because I love Nutella
way too much and I will be traumatized from Nutella
from now on.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, so she had it worse than I did.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I also love to talk about Poopsie. Just be my day. Okay.
So Stilla wants to know will Art the clown ever
take off the mask or is that just what he
looks like.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I believe that's what he looks like because at the
beginning of part one you see him applying makeup and
you see he's got like skin tone, natural skin tone,
and that's you see his bone structure there. But that
might be something we explore more in part four, because
I know Damian's going to explore his origin at the
beginning of the movie.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
So yeah, because I want to know, wait, is there
going to be like a young Art.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I don't know yet. He's not telling me anything until
he's done with the script, which is.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Driving all of us in the cast crazy right now
because we in the past few films he's shared with
us while he's writing ideas and everything. This time he's
just keeping silent and just writing, and he wants to
surprise all of us. So I'm wanting to know because like,
over the years, he and I have discussed so many
different origins for the character. So I'm very interested to
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see where he's landed. So I'm wondering if we're going to.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
See a younger art or what. I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
This is your best poker face? Are you telling me
the truth?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I am telling you the truth. I have no idea.
I'm like, hurry up, man, write the script. I want
to read it.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Do you know when you guys are going to film?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Like around when I think he's saying early next year
that we're going to start filming, so he so I
guess you know we'll find out.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Do you think you could put a good word in
for me? Of course, I don't even have to be
like a big character like I just want you to
eat me. That didn't come out right, that.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Have a slip on aisle four?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Oh dear uh no, But I like you can kill me.
You could, you could. I could just be like or
I could just be like a background player. I don't know.
I just want to be on step with you guys.
I just.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
That's the most wild thing about this is how many
people have. Everyone asks you, they're like, can you kill me?
I'm like, that's that's wild, Like people just all over
the industry especially, I don't want to name names. It's
like there have been like some big names, and like,
are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
This is insane.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Absolutely, So you're saying I don't have a chance.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
No, there's always a chance. There's always a chance.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Who knows. Maybe Demians secretly was a Donna Martin fan
Beverly Hills.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And I know it's always possible.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You never know.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
You grew up with like older sisters that could.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Be my endy.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
There you go, there you go, because he had, like
all he was the only a man in the family.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
So is his mom and his sisters and him. So
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
There was some nine O two one oh playing on
TV when he was growing up.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Okay, okay, I'll be stalking him later. Okay, well you're
probably gonna get into this. And four and I know
you don't know, but Stella is asking why doesn't Art
speak can't say why does he kill people in horrific
ways that she thinks are almost artistic ways? And her
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theory is his name is Art because in his world,
she came up with this whole. I was like, I'm
proud of you girl, like she came up. She's like, actually,
if you think about it, and if you take all
the horror and grotesque killings away, they're actually very creative
ways that he kills people, and that's his and art
is subjective, you know, like it's your own interpretation. So
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is this his artistic expression? Such the name art.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
That's kind of how I look at It's like performance
art for him, and that's how I went in looking
at this character. I was like, Okay, he's a clown,
but he's actually that anti clown.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
He does all this.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
There was a great line that the homeless lady, the
cat Lady Puya in the in the first film set
is like he does this because he thinks it's funny.
And I'm like, that's that's what I was really able
to understand the character with that one line. I was like,
ok I can build so much off that one line.
It's like, yeah, he's the anti clown. Clowns are supposed
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to be here to bring joy and amusement to other
people for everybody else's pleasure.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
There's curious they don't bring joy.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
No, But that's what they think they're doing. Right.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Art is here to bring pain and misery to everybody
else around him for his own selfish amusement. He's basically
always performing for an audience of one himself. He's a
very selfish character, and that's how I look at Like,
all these kills he's.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Doing is pure entertainment for him. He has fun. This
is just him performing.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Oh my gosh, makes him thick.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
It's he's not doing out of revenge or anything like that.
It's just pure fun for him.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, it's random, right, Yeah, it's very Yeah, Oh my gosh,
that was amazing. Sorry. I was really sad to see
Vicky die because I thought, like, I mean, I was okay,
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So I was happy for her. She really wanted to
die and she couldn't kill herself. But I was happy
she's finally dead. But although, yeah, I don't know. I
thought they were really great and I really wanted them
to have a baby.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Open the most fucked up child.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Art plus Vicky equals love. They were like soulmates, Yeah, soul.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
He was basically her baby because she birthed his head.
So right, it's kind of messed up.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Oh, what is that Oedipus complex you know that works. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I was really sad. I thought that's where it was going.
Mm hmm, Like I don't know. I was like, Okay,
something's gonna happen, and I feel like I didn't expect
her to die, and I was like, oh, there's going
to be like a mini art born and that's going
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to be your child, that's going to like be with you.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Oh that would have been a fun idea, that would
have been fun.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well I'm happy to fill in in number four and
birth your child, all right, Well Damien know, okay, see
I'm just thrown out ideas. We never know what it'll sick, right,
you know, yeah, who knows?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Who knows?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I think I'm very I've had five I am in menopause,
but nothing matters in these movies. You know, it could
be one hundred and have a baby.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
So yeah, exactly. It's like the things that like Damien
has come up with, the like the ending that we
originally had for part three was so much more dark
and twisted it we had to we had to cut
a lot of that out because we were just running
out of time. We only had a few days to
film that whole scene, so we had to make massive
cuts to that scene, but it got so much darker.
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We were doing so much worse things to Gabby, but
I don't want to say what they are because he
might put them into Part four for all I know,
So I have no idea. But he wrote some very
twisted and dark things. And that's where even while we're
filming just what we had filmed, Damy at one point
is like, this is getting way too dark. We need
something to lighten the mood. Dave, every time you go
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by Lauren, just slap her in the head, and I'm like,
you know, so literally doing slapstick comedy in this scene.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
So like it, And that's something I've know.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
We get a lot of praise for all these people
that love that bit where I just keep slapping her
in the head every time I walk by her. And
I felt so bad for poor Lauren because we had
to do so many different takes from so many different angles,
and she was so just tired and exhausted, and she's
she already had a stress headache and I'm just having
to slap her in the head. I'm like, I am
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so sorry about doing this for you. I'm like but
that's Damien. He's he comes off some really creative things,
morbid things, but also that are sometimes just really funny.
I don't know where it comes from, because he is
like the most normal guy when you meet him in
real life.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I see, I love that, though, well he's the creatives, Like, yeah,
something bad, Like why do you think Art let Gabby lives?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Are we talking about get like the little Girl? Yeah,
I don't know, I don't I don't know. I mean
I think there might.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
He could come back and before pretty much pretty much well,
I know, like the whole point of that was to
do stuff because like we were doing worse stuff to
Gabby in that scene, which of course didn't make it
the screen.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
But like sexual stuff, No, definitely not that. That's because
I've gotten that question before.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
It's like kind of like how what art is about him?
Like is I don't even see him being a sexual
creature at all? I see him very asexual. That's like
that's something he's gree Yeah, he's something. He's above all
of that. I mean because some people as he gays,
he's straight up like, I don't think he's any of that.
He's just purely asexual. He's just Art, and I don't
think that's one thing I expressed, like, I don't want
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him to do anything like sexual.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I don't want him raping anybody or anything like that because.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I don't think that's I think that he's above something
like that. That's something that is just not something he's
not interested in doing. So, of course, nothing like that.
But it was like for Gabby, it was more about
just the base seeing her just like just horrible things
happening to her to really psychologically damage Sienna because they
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needed her to be at her most vulnerable state, just
break her mentally, so Vicky, the entity inside of Vicky
could finally possess Sienna understood.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah, Like when we did part one, we were just like, well,
we hope someone sees this movie and maybe if people
like it, maybe we'll make a second one. We were
spitballing so many ideas for a possible sequel, but like the.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Only thing we knew is that we knew we wanted
to bring in a kick ass, like like female protagonists
to come in because we are the one thing I
was always wanting is like Art needs the Batman to
his joker, and someone that's that balance to him and
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Sienna is actually a character Damien created even before he
came up with the character of Art, it was just
a really badass warrior chick and he's he always wanted
to bring her to life, and so he finally had it, thought, well,
I can bring this character into this and that's who's
going to be the Batman to Arts Joker being into
his Yang.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
That is very cool. So Halloween Hornin, Yeah, there's Terrifire,
which insane. I mean obviously you've been there.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, I am one to the the La one on
opening night, and I'm going to try to go to
Orlando at the end of October because I'm going to
be down there for Spooky Empire.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Nice he went on opening night, were people on line
like what the heck.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I was sa and like, oh gosh, I've never experienced
anything like that before. That was my first real red
carpet event, and I was kind of overwhelmed because I
went to a Halloween Hard Knights last year, not on
the red carpet. I just walked around with friends and
I would get recognized here or there, but this time
it was like a mob of people falling us everywhere
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we went. But yeah, it was it was just crazy.
We had people following us everywhere. So like when we
got to the Terrifier House, there was a huge mob
of people already just waiting in line. They didn't know
we were coming through it, but it was like, I
see if people. It was a four hour wait.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
I was like, this is insane.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
And then we go through and they just go crazy
when they realized that we were there.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
It was I've never experienced anything like that.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
It was you must tell the Scare actors that you're coming, right,
I would.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Just I would think, so, I think, so you could
tell them.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I'd be nervous if I was playing at the Clown
as one of the scar actors at Halloween Hornites and
you were there, I'd be like, oh my god, am
I doing it right? Is he going to be crust?
Is he any think I suck?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:09):
They did great job.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I actually got to meet some of the Scare actors
a few weeks prior because I was at Midsummer Scream
in Long Beach and they came by my table and
like hey, they introduced themselves.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
And like can you give us some tips?
Speaker 2 (40:23):
And I gave him some little tips about, you know,
his mannerisms, how he walks and how I basically I
told him when I took him on, because I looked
at the nose, especially of the character. I was like,
he kind of looks like a vulture, and he's kind
of a scavenger. He's always scavenging things for his tools
and everything like that, and he eats flesh, he heats
(40:44):
the dead, the things he's killed. So he's like a vulture.
So I based a lot of his movements off of
a vulture, Like how vultures only.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Just bursts of prey.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
In general, the first thing that moves is their eyes,
and then the head moves, and then the body moves,
and so that's what how I approached Art. When he's
in hunting mode, his eyes moved than the head moves
and the body moves, and he has that hunch when
he's in he's like hunch like a vulture. And so
like I just told him those kind of little things.
That's how I approached him. When he's in certain modes. Now,
(41:15):
when he's joking around, he's more standing up straight, more jovial,
but then he gets serious and goes in hunting mode
like that.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
I'm obsessed with you, Thanks no, because it's so smart,
like what you bring to art since you like punts.
There you go, wait, I heard you get wet. No,
(41:45):
I gotta stop doing this at this at the terrifier
one at Halloween horns him. My gosh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
You a little little damp in there.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
More so I think in the Ordlando one because they
have two routs can go through. Yeah, but the one
here in La I still got a little damp going
through it. There's a few rooms where you get sprayed
with things.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Which is there smell no, oh, yes, the.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Smells there is, especially in the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
So I heard there's like smells like.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Smell like the bathroom smelled like a homeless man.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
It reminds me of the few times when I lived
in New York, get being on the subway and there's
a homeless person on the subway and you see the
subway car pulled up and you.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
See it empty, or like, oh, don't go in that
subway cart. It would just smell so bad. And that's
what that room reminded me of, was just horrible smelling
subway cars when someone had just been sitting there sitting
their own feces or something like that.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Poo poo, that's the best all around weed. So it's
like fart spray, yeah, but worse my kids are with
fart spray.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Oh yeah. Oh so is Caine Hotter, the guy you
know the main and Boorhes. He's he.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
We've been having a prank war with each other over
the past few years because he likes to get people
with fart spray, and I've been retaliating against him. I've
gotten him back a few times with other pranks. So
one time I put a fart machine in his trash
can at his table, but I put it between the
can and the liner, so if he looked in, he
didn't see the fart machine. And so when it was
a little quiet and they're out, hit the button and
(43:23):
make it go off. And I was sometimes handing to
my assistant and they would do it. So he'd look
over and I'm signing and he's like, how is he
doing this?
Speaker 3 (43:30):
I know it's him.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Oh my god. I love him too. And the fact
that you guys have a prank war going on on,
do you have like a private text chain as well?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
No, we just prank each other at the commit because we've
seen each other all the time. So we have fun
with each other.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Oh my god, he got me.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Also this year Texas Fright Maer when I was signing
at the table.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
It's on video.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
He's snuck up behind me and just scare the shit
out of me, and I just scream.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Oh my gosh, what does your scream sound like?
Speaker 3 (44:00):
At that time, it wasn't too great, was that?
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
It was? It was. It was wild. It's like if
you had told myself, and like when I was.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
A kid growing up, that I would be in the
middle of a prank war with Jason Borhies, I would
have said, you're you're shitting yourself.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
So I was like, this is It's very surreal. It's
a very surreal moment.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
If you told me five years ago i'd be interviewing
you on my own podcast, I'd be like, what, this
is a surreal moment for me. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
H life's crazy.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
It can go any direction.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
I think I manifested this because I wanted to meet you,
and here we are. It worked out right, it did,
Oh my gosh. So what's next for you? Do you
want to do a wrong com I would.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
I would love to get back into comedy again. I
missed doing comedy because that was my thing. I was
a musical theater nerd and I was a comedy nerd.
That's all I did on stage. I never really did
dramatic works. I because I like to make people laugh.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
That's that's my calling in.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Life, is to make people laugh, bring joy to people.
So I'm like, yeah, but of course I would do
like a rom com. But I mean, I I I've
got a few.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Other horror projects coming up.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
I'm filming something in November, but I can't say where
that is yet, but he's gonna be very prosthetic heavy.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
But I mean, of course I want to break out
of horror. I would. Of course, my dream role is
playing the Joker.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
I mean, I really want to be James Gunn's Joker
in the DCU because I I love what he's.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Been doing with Oh. I love what he did with
Guardings a Galaxy first of all, but like what he's
been doing with the DCU, as.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
He's so character driven with his films and he understands
that the funness that is with comic book movies and
TV shows, and I would I feel like he could
do a lot of fun things with Joker, and I
would love to be his Joker because I want to
bring a comic book version of the Joker to life
that's not really been done since Caecia Romero's Joker in
(46:03):
the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
I would really love that. I would really love that,
So that would be Also I'm trying to manifest that.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I were going to manifest it. What do you mean
it's happening. It will already happening. But I love wait
so like a musical, like a musical comedy, like what
would what would you do if they were to make
a movie?
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Oh my god, I mean I would because Little Chapahrs
Is one of my favorites. I love that seeing would
be something like Little Chaps, like some kind of horror
thinged musical comedy or something like that.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
That would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
You just can't get away from the horror.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
I can't. I can't.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
It is now it is. It's funny how that is
because I grew up. I didn't really watch a lot
of horror movies growing up because my mom was so
afraid of horror movies. She thought The Vincent Price Fallow
The House of Usher was the scariest movie she had
ever seen.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
So if she was still Live Today. She was like,
I would love I love you, baby, but no, I
am not watching these.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Oh my gosh. And I loved Abbit and Costello when
they had like the Storm.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
They're so good.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
It's like, I that's something I would love to do, Like, like,
you know, a scary movie. I'm like, I'm so excited
because I hear there's a room that the Art is
going to be in Scary Movie.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
I heard.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
I hear the rumor that Chris Elliot is playing Art
in Scary Movie six, which makes me so so happy
because I've I've been a huge Chris Elliot fan since
way back in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
That would make that would be great. So I was
in I was in Scary Movie Too, which was the
Chris Elliot one. Yeah. Yeah, so he he's so talented
and so nice. He's great, but it's.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Funny, and I'm like, if anybody else is going to
play Art, I'm so happy would be him because I
I love him so much.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Oh I love that if Art sing a song, like
if he spoke, what song would it be?
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Ah, the sound of silence?
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Like that would be Art's karaoke song.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Yeah, hello Darkness, my old friend.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
You know you came up with that too.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Best.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
You've been asked that question before.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
It's just something I thought about.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
I thought, No, that's actually something I thought about years
ago because I was like, because one of those character
things a lot of actors like to do is like
what would be on a character's playlist or what song
would they sing?
Speaker 3 (48:34):
And I was like, that would because I I especially
with him.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
It's the irony of that, that's I think it would
be great on.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Your resume, not the resumes even exist anymore.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
That the right.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
What are what? What are your special talents?
Speaker 2 (48:52):
I do over two hundred voices. That's the irony of
me being known for playing a silent character. I do
over two h voices about twenty five different dialects.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
It's it's my.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
Autism superpowers, I tell people, because it's just like I
don't know how I do it.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
It's just that I've done since I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
That is so cool. Wait, anything else, like do you
play the flute or anything?
Speaker 2 (49:17):
I played piano, but not like you know, like an expert.
I just do it for shits and giggles. I haven't
played it in a while. I need to get back
into doing that. But I'm like, Yeah, I used to
be like very very limber, but now that I've hit
my forties, I can't.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
I'm not as double jointed as I used to be,
which sucks.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
But double jointed. You should do Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Season thirty four's on right now. Oh my god, people
would forget well Prettysney plus like show with ABC and Hululan.
Maybe yeah, but gosh, a.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Ballroom dance back in college. I used to do a
lot of back in the day.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
I used to it, especially because when I was in college,
that's when swing dancing came back into style, like late
like ninety eight, and I did a lot of swing
dancing back in the day.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
I used to love that.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Wow, you're a man of many talents.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah, that's That's the family I came from is they
all had lots of abilities. They all teachers and engineers,
but they all had like artistic abilities as well.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
So I guess we're like, you know, a family of
Rinds on some men.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah, I love that. Do you think they'll ever make
an animated series of Terrified with arts clans?
Speaker 3 (50:38):
It would be cool? Cool. I love something like that.
I would do the voice for art, but I would.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Love Look, yeah, you might not have a job if
they did that, well.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
I could come in voice everybody else maybe just for fun.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
It'd be like really cool to do this dark comedy
like Mister Rogers but Art the Clown.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Oh mister Arts Neighborhood or something like that, like.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
And it seems like it's just like one of those
oh the Cloud.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Cafe basically, yeah, yeah, that'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Would you ever do a reality show besides sans Hoopstairs
and which on?
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah, if I did a reality show, I would want
to do something maybe like Traders or something like that,
because I really I've enjoyed that show that's been a
lot of fun, or something like like The Mole or
something like that, like something like there it's not just
people sitting around in a house and just bitching at
each other. I like to do something where that, like
there're fun games you're playing, there's some kind of goal.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
But that's why I like The Mold. There's like a
mystery you're trying to solve the whole entire time.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Who's who's the one that's writing everybody else out and
here screening everything up like that.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
That's why I like the traders like.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Oh, who who's trying to be great?
Speaker 3 (51:58):
I love that show. And plus I love Alan Comings
so much. Oh my god, he's so awesome. I think
they I think it would.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Be really cool to do a show like that with
a bunch of horror actors and who Who's the killer?
Speaker 1 (52:12):
I think that would be a great idea.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
Yeah, I feel like they haven't really done reality. I mean,
like scare tactics are like, you know, like but not like,
because there's so.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
Many great horror actors out there, and it's like that
gives them all a chance to like all come together
and do something fun like that. It's like, yes, but
you have all the victims, you have all the villains,
you have the heroes and heroines. You could bring all
you know, all these years of horror movies. You could
There's so many people you could use for something like that.
(52:44):
It'd be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (52:46):
Well, News Slash, you're the it guy right now, so
you should make that happen.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
We'll see.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Oh my gosh. Okay, and so you have a new project.
What about Screamboat Scream? Oh yes, that's doing well.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
There might I have not seen it? Oh no, I'm
it is such a silly movie.
Speaker 2 (53:11):
It's it's it's kind of like that goofy type of ridiculousness,
like the Leprechaun movies were you know it's it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
Of fun movies.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Oh I do too, especially the Vegas one. I think
that one's so funny.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
Well so where wait, where can everyone watch screen Boat?
Speaker 3 (53:30):
I believe it's on most stream pops.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
I know it just got put on Peacock a few
weeks ago, so it's definitely on Peacock now.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
Think it's a.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Fun, little, crazy little movie, especially if you're a Disney fan.
It's got so many Disney Ace Triggs throughout it, and
I'm a I'm a big, huge Disney fan, so I
I I was so excited just to do it because
it was kind of a full circle moment for me
to play Willie because my first role I.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
Ever really did, like big role, was in middle school.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
My high my middle school choral program did Mickey's Christmas Carol,
and I was bullied a lot in middle school. I
was very shy and quiet, and my mom I.
Speaker 3 (54:16):
Was very funny at home, just always doing.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Crazy character stuff and my mom was like, you you
need to let your classmates see the side of you.
Speaker 3 (54:24):
I think that will change things for you. And she's like,
your school's doing Mickey's Christmas Carol. You do a great
Mickey Mouse voice. Why don't you audition for it?
Speaker 2 (54:32):
And so I did and I got the role and
that was That's the show that gave me my love
for making people laugh, because things went wrong during the
show and I started improvising right there on the spot,
like the set fell down and Scrooge and I and
I'm like, oh, mister Scrooge, I think we have rats,
and Audis laughed.
Speaker 3 (54:49):
Then our table broke during the crash at family dinner
and shot the little chicken we had over the audience.
I'm like, what, I guess we're having fast through to min.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
It was like and when I was laughing, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, for the first time at this school,
I have people laughing with me instead of at me.
And I'm the one with the power right now. I'm
in control and I'm loving this. And that's what I
was like, Mom, I want to do more of this.
I want more of this. And so that's why she
started getting me involved with community theater and so being
(55:21):
able to come back and play a different version of
Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 3 (55:26):
Was a dream come true for me in a lot
of ways because it was a nice little throwback to
where I.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Started my origin in a lot of ways. And so
I didn't even see the script. When the director came
to me, it's like, I want you to play Willie.
I'm like absolutely, absolutely, And then I saw the script
and I'm like, oh, this is a fun script. It's
very creative in a lot of ways. I had a
lot of fun doing that film. And I know we've
(55:53):
been shooting around ideas for a possible sequel, so hopefully
that can manifest itself.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
Too awesome.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
Yeah, to say it's happening, it's happening. The sequel's happenings,
and the works gont happen. Okay, I've taken up enough
of your time. I could talk to you all day long,
but will you leave us on this? Will you do
a voice please that we'd be surprised to know that
you do. And you just said you do over two
hundred and twenty would you say you do?
Speaker 3 (56:21):
Yeah, over two hundred voices? I lost count years ago.
Speaker 2 (56:23):
I have a YouTube video I did, like when I
did my first year on Grinch, back in twenty ten,
I did about on.
Speaker 3 (56:31):
One hundred and ten voices in nine minutes, just back
to back, So a lot of cartoon characters.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
So I mean, like a book of world record shit there.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
I know. I think mel Blank had me beat, but you.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Know, oh him, oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:47):
But of course I was like, it's probably a lesser
known character unless you're a child of the eighties like
I am.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
But it's from Ninja Turtle series of Kraying. I just
always loved that voice, like.
Speaker 3 (57:01):
You those.
Speaker 2 (57:05):
Yeah, my mom thought I was crazy because I would
do that voice with the figures, like what is wrong
with you?
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Oh my gosh. So you would have action figures and
do the voices out loud, Oh my god, brilliant.
Speaker 3 (57:20):
I would do that. I would just sit there and
just do all the character voices.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Or I would make my own shows up on the spot.
Speaker 1 (57:28):
And puff the magic dragon. But you're too hrutuff really.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
Hr puffs and stuff.
Speaker 1 (57:36):
Yeah, my gosh, that was my face, that witchy woo. Well,
I'm an action figure. Can I call you Dave?
Speaker 3 (57:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (57:47):
Sure, I'm just kidding. Okay, Hey Dave, what voice would
you do for me if you had my Donna Martin
action figure.
Speaker 4 (57:59):
I god, tur me shopping bitches. I don't know, nice,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
Yeah, it's like more like the female voices I do,
or like you know, like you know, like.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
Mama Clumpy's gay as I was a good old classic
Eddie Murphy, you know.
Speaker 1 (58:30):
The best.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
Oh I love that classic Eddie Murphy. That's that's another
topic for another day.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
Oh well, thank you so much. I really appreciate this.
Speaker 3 (58:43):
You're welcome. This was fun.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
Okay, good, I'm glad you have fun. I know, I
know you talk about art all the time.
Speaker 3 (58:50):
So it goes with the territory.
Speaker 2 (58:54):
Territory, terrifiartory, I don't know, yeah, territory, yeah, territory too.
Speaker 3 (59:00):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1 (59:02):
Territory.
Speaker 3 (59:03):
Oh, there's there's something there. I know.
Speaker 1 (59:06):
Well, we'll just scuss offline. I'll d m you.
Speaker 3 (59:08):
Yeah out.
Speaker 1 (59:12):
Thank your girlfriend for bearing with my uh my humor today,
which yeah, it wasn't intended, of course, it was intended.
Speaker 3 (59:21):
Good.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
Thank you, have a great day you too.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
You take care bye, all right bye
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