It was fun scheduling in some downtime with half the week in Sweden and the other in NY! Amy and T.J. go through their active recovery this week that included an iconic trip to the ABBA museum.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, that folks. It is Saturday, September six. It is
time for us to take a recovery run. And I
never thought that helping myself recover would include going to
the Abba Museum in Stockton, Sweden, and with that Stockholm, Stockton, Stockton, California. Right, Yes,
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very different places. Welcome to this geography edition of Aby
at DJ. Yes, we were at Stockholm. I should say.
This is what we do to relax. We go run
half marathons. That was awesome.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, it was funny. I was looking at you at
one point and look, we were so excited to be
in another country and have a change of scenery. But
we actually worked every single day and then our one
day off where we didn't have to do any recording
because we did some ahead of time, we ran a
half marathon.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
It was our day off.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That was our day off. And you know what that
is something in a way your recovery, because you're getting
physically active. Our brains were spent at that point. So
I actually really appreciated the run. It was almost a
release of pent up energy, I would say. But I
was very excited because once we got the half marathon
under our belts and we crossed the finish line. I
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knew exactly what I wanted to do, to celebrate, to
unwind and to have a little fun. And I was very,
very appreciative of the fact that you were willing to
come along for the ride.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Uh is that what we say? Appreciative of the fact
that I was willing? Is there? You said?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yes? Okay, yes, because it was so the Abba Museum?
Is it Abba or Abba? It might be an age
old discussion. I have always said Abba, but I have
been told I am saying incorrectly it's Abba.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Is it American versus Swedish?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
But however you say it. The band has been with
me from my very very beginning. Some of my earliest
childhood memories are sitting in front of my dad's stereo
and singing along to Abba music.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And I just learned on this trip that Abba is
made up of two men and two women in a
band from Sweden. I didn't know that I heard of them,
and I Mama Mia, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well that's yes. That is a Broadway musical slash movie
that is basically compiled compiling all or many of ABBA's
greatest hits.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Waiting. There's not a song called Mama Mia.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well there is a song called and it was them, right, yes, okay, okay,
Mama Mia.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yes that thing, yes, the other one. Now, I didn't
know this was theirs Dancing Queen.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You didn't know Dancing Queen was I did not.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Know that at all. But I like that song. Some
of their stuff was a little quirkier. That one seemed
more in the lane of disco. Something that's the Winner
Takes it All? You know, No, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Has to fall.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
No, you don't know Broadway.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
No, it's their song, but Winner Takes it All.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Oh, I never heard that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I love that song. They have so many good ones
this Fernando.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Uh no, give me another one. I would know.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I think as far as what you would know.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Well, that's really it's old mainstream that everybody would know
this Abba song.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
What would it be trying to see what?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Because it's one of those things that when I hear something,
I say, oh, I recognize that song, But then I
have no idea who's singing the thing?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
All right? What about so os?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
No, no, what is the.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Most listened to? Abasan? Okay, Dancing Queen and Fernando don't
know they had a dozen top forty hits and scored. Yeah,
so this is twenty five top forty hits in the
nineteen of the top ten. All right, I'm gonna get
of course. Now I'm having a hard time pulling.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Them all out.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, it's clearly not working so well for me.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Take a chance on me. I know that he is
your brother, Ring Ring Hastamanana, Mama Mia, another town, another train,
bang a boomerang.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Here's a fun fact. Mama Mia knocked Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody
off number one. That's pretty impressive. And that is the one.
You know. Gimme, gimme, gimmey a man after midnight.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
You know that one, knowing me, knowing you.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Knowing me.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Take a chance on me, take a chance on lay
on me.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Oh my god, super super I have a dream.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
The winner takes it all.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Money, money takes money.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, you know, give me gimmey gimmy, Yeah, the man.
Does your mother know one of us? The name of
the game. Thank you for the music and water Waterloo.
That's nineteen songs we just listed. I have heard of
two of them. That's just dancing Queen and Mama Mia.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Do you know what I actually learned in the Appa
Museum that I didn't know so, and I think maybe
I had heard something about it, but I didn't really
know that. Two of the men in the ABBA group,
we learned their names Lars and Benny.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Bennie and something, Benny and Bjorn.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I just picked another random sweet he was he was
the fifth member that is just not mentioned very often, joking, Okay,
it was Benny and Bijorn. They went on. They did
obviously some Broadway musicals with Mama Mia, but they went
on to contribute to writing Chess, which is one of
these deep cuts for a lot of folks who maybe
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aren't huge Broadway fans. But oh my goodness, when I
was in high school and college, I listened to that
at nauseum. It is some of my favorite Broadway music.
And to know that, of course one of my favorite
rock bands, disco bands, whatever you want to call them,
contributed to that musical. I would say disco rock pop.
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It kind of fits all of that.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
They're so wildly Swedish, which I certainly understand better now
by spending some time in stock Home for the week
plus that we did. But going to the museum, no
surprise here didn't see another black person for two hours. Now,
Don't get me wrong, Sweden is not the most diverse
place when it comes to uh seen black folks all around.
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But I'm in a very white place, and you took
me to the whitest place within that white place. It
was love.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Do you have fun?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I had? All the people watching was unbelievable. I had
a blast walking through there.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
There was a line that it was raining, stretched all
the way out from underneath the protection from the rain
all the way and you were just amazed that people
were standing in these lines waiting to get into the
Abba Museum. So that was amazing. And then the other
fun recovery that we were able to pull off while
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we were in Stockholm was going to a place. I
could never say it in Swedish, but it translates to
the Feather Islands and it was just this cool little
island that you take a ferry to. And you were
cracking me up because you love Sweden, but you weren't
a fan of the weather, and I get that. It's
it was basically like we were cheering if the sun
peeked out for a little while, but mostly it was
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in this it was like I think the high way
sixty eight, but it was like feels like sixty one.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, it was that kind of situation.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And then it never really got that cold at night,
but it was just always kind of gray, overcast, a
little bit of spotty rain, and just it was romantic
and dramatic.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
We never had a jeans or shorts and T shirt day.
We never even had really a shorts and long sleeve
T shirt day, and most of the days were sweater
plus jacket days there. And I said to you, Stockholm,
I absolutely loved it. Stockholm is my favorite city I
have ever been to that I never want to go
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to again.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Because you don't like cold weather, the.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Weather I can't. Yeah, and we went in the hottest month, did.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
We not, Yes, July and August are the two hottest
months and so and really the average high for both
of those months is sixty eight. I will say that
I don't mind colder weather, and I don't mind that's
fall like weather. But there is something when you're on
summer vacation and it doesn't feel like summer day, there's
a little bit of a mind grap like you kind
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of think, ooh, just how much better would this be
if it was ten degrees warmer.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
What do I tell you there is no such thing
as a vacation If I need a coat while I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
There, Yes, and so I guess well. And we also
worked in run a half marathon. So I think you
could pretty much say this was just a fun, amazing
change of scenery.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Something from us. We're sitting here telling people how we recover,
and it sounds exhausting, that is true, but.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It was amazing. And I was laughing at your reaction
to this specific island because how cute was it. Can
you describe how cute and amazing? And there was so
much outside seating, It was sweeping views, gorgeous architecture, quaint
as hell, cute restaurants.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It seemed like a place that Santa Claus with vacation,
like it would be his summer place.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's actually a really good way to no.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Way way to put it, because it was a little cool,
but it was sixty eight. You know it's sixty You
know Santa doesn't want it too warm, but this was
a little warmer than he's used to kind of a place,
and it was chill, and you could nobody's gonna know
your name, and you can have all kinds of privacy,
but they had laid out some of the best, like
lakeside or excuse me, this was the Baltic seat. When
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are we talking about? This was like waterside dining, and
the views were unbelievable. It was wonderful, glooming in sixty two.
This is what it was. I think, I said, I said, wow,
we should have gotten married here. It was that kind
of special place that I saw. And the food was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That food was amazing.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I still remember that waitress. It was wonderful. Everything was great.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
You said, what a waste, because you said you looked
around because there was like the most amazing seats that
were positioned everywhere, and they were all empty because.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It was too cold to sit outside, and so you
just looked around and you said, what a waste. This
is so gorgeous. Why can't it just be warmer? You said,
if it was warmer, you would come back once a year.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, gets close enough. Nine hours. I mean you can
handle it. If you go for a week, I would.
I would love to go back. I told you. It
reminded me of Frankly, the Hamptons. It reminded me of
montak where you can still it's chill, and it's got
enough going on, but it still has a chill, almost
a surfer town vibe. And this is a major metropolitan
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city that just had a chillness to it. I love
it and I will never go back.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Something else that's funny. Something else that wasn't lost on
us that I do think helped us recover while we
were working and while we were running, is that everyone
is so damn polite. There were no I did not
hear one honking of a horn in a major city.
I did not hear any noise. They're quiet, they're not loud.
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I mean, if you there were not that many Americans there,
but when there were Americans there, you could hear them
a mile away. Because the Swedes are so quiet, so respectful,
so polite.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And orderly and just rule followers, and there is regiment here.
And I was love now that part. I'm telling you.
I love this place. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And the architecture is stunning. There was not one piece
of trash anywhere. Did you see litter anywhere? Did you
see graffiti anywhere? That was remarkable to me. And maybe
it's just because we live in New York and we're
so aware of graffiti and trash and honking horns and
sirens and loud, obnoxious people and rude people. Everyone was
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basically the opposite of New York.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And you know what, you all we talk here about
New York congestion traffic. You know how compact Manhattan is.
They most of their traffic is people on bicycles. They
have a bike culture there that's comparable to Rome's scooter culture,
if you will. Most of the people are on bikes.
And to see them in these fairly wide bike lanes coming,
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I mean we're not talking random few people. They are
bunched in like track like cars, and they are orderly,
they are polite, there are no issues.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Places great and there is one woman had three kids
with her on a bike. It was impressive as hell.
It looked like the Tour de France to me because they.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Were all bunched up so.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And I just thought, how is no one getting in
an accident? How is no one yelling at someone someone
cut them off? Even the bike. No one was ringing
their bike belts. It was I was we actually, I
think our jaws were dropped watching the process happen every
rush hour.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I love love Stockholm and it's a weird thing to
say I love a place so much and don't want
to go back because of that thing. Please, I'm not
knocking you all of Stockholm. Then they could do about
your weather. It's just I am a different blooded person.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So the other thing we did to recover and I
love this is one of my favorite things that we
share a passion for shopping. And you got another leather coats.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I gotta stop because has a stop.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So did I. By the way, full admission, I didn't
need one either. But there's a big thrifting community there
and all of these stores are secondhand stores. We walked
in and you know sometimes when you go my kids
love to thrift, there is a smell that just lingers
in some of these stores and it's a little bit
of a turn off for me. You walked in these
places smelled amazing, They were curated perfectly. They even had
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the colors all in like rainbow where it just you
wanted to go in and see what you could find.
I've never had more luck, or at least more excitement
going into a secondhand store, but they have. They're lined
with that.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Here's the thing, and I didn't think about this till
right now you walk into the store and don't realize
it for five minutes that you're in a secondhand store.
They're that nice.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
If they are so nice. But yeah, every time we
go somewhere to Europe, and yeah we were in Italy
last time, we hit Florence. But God's sake, so leather jackets,
leather everywhere. I obviously ride a motorcycle a lot of
people know, so I have a certainly collection of motorcycle jackets.
I do not need another leather jacket. I have every
variety you can think of. And sure enough we get there,
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how many two?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
One you bought two? You bought two more leather jackets.
And actually the prices were amazing because they were secondhands,
so you weren't spending tons of money. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
No, the brown one, though.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Was it a little bit more, a little bit more.
But the one that you got second hand was one
hundred and twenty dollars. Yeah, and it was gorgeous, fantastic.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I'm gonna let y'all see it, y'all gonna.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You even said to me, please talk me out of
this robes, and I said I can't. I'm sorry, I'm
not your girl. When it comes to that, I can't
talk you out of it.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I'm begging anybody please. I don't need it. I don't
need but it's uh. That is always fun. And that
was another good part in the part I Love of Stockholm.
Never go back, never going back?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
All right, So when we come back, we'll tell you
how we recovered after our nine hour flight and I
think twenty two hours, twenty three hours straight of not sleeping,
and how we found a way to recover for the
rest of our week. Welcome back to this edition of Well.
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I guess it's a Saturday morning run. It's our recovery run.
But we talk about what we did to relax, to enjoy,
to be intentional about doing something other than work, which
is actually a huge It's a tough thing for us
to schedule in and I think that's for a lot
of folks. It's hard sometimes to make a priority of fun.
(15:23):
And we've been really trying to do that even while
we're working, even when we're in different locations, to say, hey,
enough work, let's go do something where we can actually
enjoy ourselves and relax. I think that's important in life.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's harder for us now I say it's harder because
it's easier. I say it's easier that we have the equipment,
we can travel anywhere, we can podcast from anywhere in
the world. That's awesome, but it also means we can
podcast from anywhere in the world, so no matter where
we are, we have no.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Excuse, right, and so we end up working. But this
is why it's so important to find that time to
wind down. And so yes, if you've been listening to
our podcast this week, you'll know by now that one
of the first things we did on a day where
we had really bad sleep scores because of the travel back,
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we decided to extend our day, stay up even later
and go relax and watch a horror movie. And not
just any horror movie. We went to go see The Conjuring,
the Final Installment, The Conjuring, the Last Rite.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I cannot believe we went and did this. We were exhausted,
We were actually really really exhausted, and we debated, I
think all we didn't decide what till four o'clock to
go to a six thirty movie, and we talked about
it all day and we finally I think it was me.
I'm tired of talking about it, book the ticket.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You absolutely made the call because I was leaning towards
maybe doing it on another day, and you said, we've
been excited about this movie for months now, this is
its opening preview night, and we said we were going
to go. Let's go, so we did.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
You know, what, how do you handle that? Because we
deal with this and a lot of people do. Where
do you what's the balance doing sacrificing because you said
so many times we have to prioritize sleep, write that
we have this debate in this fight all the time,
if you will, like, Okay, sleep is important, but man,
this thing over here is what we really want to do.
How do you always how do we end up finding
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that balance? And which way do we end up going?
Because I know you are always on board with opportunity,
this and experience. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yes, So it's that whole notion. I'll sleep when I'm dead.
But I also know how important I feel like, especially
as I get older, for me to have a better
active life, for me to feel better while I'm doing
fun things, I really need to prioritize sleep. And now
I think it's the thing, especially Americans, where we almost
take pride in our few hours of sleep. See how
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busy I was, See how active I was, See how
productive I was. But I don't want to be that
person because I used to be that person. Hell, I
used to brag that I didn't take my vacation days.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
This feels pretty stupid now.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
That is the dumbest thing I ever did in my life.
And when anyone asked me for advice when they're starting out,
I always say, take all your vacation days. Although hilariously enough,
I don't feel like this new generation needs that advice.
They're really good on that. But is that me just
sounding like an old bitter person.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
No, we've heard those stories, and look there's a let's
not get into that we did that episode later because
we could go off on a tangent on that. I'm
glad we made the call we did. We were afraid
we were going to fall asleep in the movie theater,
and sure enough it turned out to be a wonderful
experience the whole night. I don't know that was a
really I'm so glad we did that last night. That
was a highlight. I am glad we made that call.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I am very happy we did it too. And I
have to tell you night. Yeah, Thursday night, it had it.
Actually I had a hard time. I had to wind
down to try and go to sleep even though I
was tired, because I was so hyped up on seeing
that movie. That's how good it was. But the other thing,
so this is Saturday morning, and it is nice to
have a plan on the weekend to do something fun,
to do something you love, to relax and we are
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in the season college football, so that is going to
be our relaxing. Our I guess our way to have
some fun and to chill this weekend is college football.
Go Dogs, go hogs. We're very excited about the season.
Fall is the best time of year for a lot
of reasons, but definitely because college football has begun.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Okay, you made me feel when we start these sometimes
like wow, we didn't do enough to actually prioritize ourselves,
our health, our sleep, our relationship. And then I started
talking to you about like, oh, wow, we actually did
and then I end up, Okay, maybe we're not doing
so bad. What was the line what's the thame of
the book? Kabby Beurnstein said, she gave us a type.
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We're working on it. We're working on it, and we
are it seems like every week. Sometimes we don't do
it consciously, but we are working on it, and so
I'm as busy as it was, and we got it
all done. But I had a last with you this week,
and certainly the movie and running thirteen.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Well, we always appreciate you running with us, whether it's
a recovery run or Monday through Friday. But thank you
as always for listening to us. Everybody. I made me
Roeboch alongside TJ. Holmes, have a great, relaxing and fun weekend.
Hey, that folks. It is Saturday, September six. It is
time for us to take a recovery run. And I
never thought that helping myself recover would include going to
the Abba Museum in Stockton, Sweden, and with that Stockholm, Stockton, Stockton, California. Right, Yes,
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very different places. Welcome to this geography edition of Aby
at DJ. Yes, we were at Stockholm. I should say.
This is what we do to relax. We go run
half marathons. That was awesome.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yeah, it was funny. I was looking at you at
one point and look, we were so excited to be
in another country and have a change of scenery. But
we actually worked every single day and then our one
day off where we didn't have to do any recording
because we did some ahead of time, we ran a
half marathon.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
It was our day off.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That was our day off. And you know what that
is something in a way your recovery, because you're getting
physically active. Our brains were spent at that point. So
I actually really appreciated the run. It was almost a
release of pent up energy, I would say. But I
was very excited because once we got the half marathon
under our belts and we crossed the finish line. I
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knew exactly what I wanted to do, to celebrate, to
unwind and to have a little fun. And I was very,
very appreciative of the fact that you were willing to
come along for the ride.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Uh is that what we say? Appreciative of the fact
that I was willing? Is there? You said?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yes? Okay, yes, because it was so the Abba Museum?
Is it Abba or Abba? It might be an age
old discussion. I have always said Abba, but I have
been told I am saying incorrectly it's Abba.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Is it American versus Swedish?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
But however you say it. The band has been with
me from my very very beginning. Some of my earliest
childhood memories are sitting in front of my dad's stereo
and singing along to Abba music.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And I just learned on this trip that Abba is
made up of two men and two women in a
band from Sweden. I didn't know that I heard of them,
and I Mama Mia, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well that's yes. That is a Broadway musical slash movie
that is basically compiled compiling all or many of ABBA's
greatest hits.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Waiting. There's not a song called Mama Mia.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well there is a song called and it was them, right, yes, okay, okay,
Mama Mia.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yes that thing, yes, the other one. Now, I didn't
know this was theirs Dancing Queen.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You didn't know Dancing Queen was I did not.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Know that at all. But I like that song. Some
of their stuff was a little quirkier. That one seemed
more in the lane of disco. Something that's the Winner
Takes it All? You know, No, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Has to fall.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
No, you don't know Broadway.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
No, it's their song, but Winner Takes it All.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Oh, I never heard that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I love that song. They have so many good ones
this Fernando.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Uh no, give me another one. I would know.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I think as far as what you would know.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Well, that's really it's old mainstream that everybody would know
this Abba song.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
What would it be trying to see what?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Because it's one of those things that when I hear something,
I say, oh, I recognize that song, But then I
have no idea who's singing the thing?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
All right? What about so os?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
No, no, what is the.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Most listened to? Abasan? Okay, Dancing Queen and Fernando don't
know they had a dozen top forty hits and scored. Yeah,
so this is twenty five top forty hits in the
nineteen of the top ten. All right, I'm gonna get
of course. Now I'm having a hard time pulling.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Them all out.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, it's clearly not working so well for me.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Take a chance on me. I know that he is
your brother, Ring Ring Hastamanana, Mama Mia, another town, another train,
bang a boomerang.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Here's a fun fact. Mama Mia knocked Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody
off number one. That's pretty impressive. And that is the one.
You know. Gimme, gimme, gimmey a man after midnight.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
You know that one, knowing me, knowing you.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Knowing me.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Take a chance on me, take a chance on lay
on me.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Oh my god, super super I have a dream.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
The winner takes it all.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Money, money takes money.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, you know, give me gimmey gimmy, Yeah, the man.
Does your mother know one of us? The name of
the game. Thank you for the music and water Waterloo.
That's nineteen songs we just listed. I have heard of
two of them. That's just dancing Queen and Mama Mia.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Do you know what I actually learned in the Appa
Museum that I didn't know so, and I think maybe
I had heard something about it, but I didn't really
know that. Two of the men in the ABBA group,
we learned their names Lars and Benny.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Bennie and something, Benny and Bjorn.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I just picked another random sweet he was he was
the fifth member that is just not mentioned very often, joking, Okay,
it was Benny and Bijorn. They went on. They did
obviously some Broadway musicals with Mama Mia, but they went
on to contribute to writing Chess, which is one of
these deep cuts for a lot of folks who maybe
(05:18):
aren't huge Broadway fans. But oh my goodness, when I
was in high school and college, I listened to that
at nauseum. It is some of my favorite Broadway music.
And to know that, of course one of my favorite
rock bands, disco bands, whatever you want to call them,
contributed to that musical. I would say disco rock pop.
(05:38):
It kind of fits all of that.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
They're so wildly Swedish, which I certainly understand better now
by spending some time in stock Home for the week
plus that we did. But going to the museum, no
surprise here didn't see another black person for two hours. Now,
Don't get me wrong, Sweden is not the most diverse
place when it comes to uh seen black folks all around.
(06:02):
But I'm in a very white place, and you took
me to the whitest place within that white place. It
was love.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Do you have fun?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I had? All the people watching was unbelievable. I had
a blast walking through there.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
There was a line that it was raining, stretched all
the way out from underneath the protection from the rain
all the way and you were just amazed that people
were standing in these lines waiting to get into the
Abba Museum. So that was amazing. And then the other
fun recovery that we were able to pull off while
(06:35):
we were in Stockholm was going to a place. I
could never say it in Swedish, but it translates to
the Feather Islands and it was just this cool little
island that you take a ferry to. And you were
cracking me up because you love Sweden, but you weren't
a fan of the weather, and I get that. It's
it was basically like we were cheering if the sun
peeked out for a little while, but mostly it was
(06:58):
in this it was like I think the high way
sixty eight, but it was like feels like sixty one.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, it was that kind of situation.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And then it never really got that cold at night,
but it was just always kind of gray, overcast, a
little bit of spotty rain, and just it was romantic
and dramatic.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
We never had a jeans or shorts and T shirt day.
We never even had really a shorts and long sleeve
T shirt day, and most of the days were sweater
plus jacket days there. And I said to you, Stockholm,
I absolutely loved it. Stockholm is my favorite city I
have ever been to that I never want to go
(07:36):
to again.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Because you don't like cold weather, the.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Weather I can't. Yeah, and we went in the hottest month, did.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
We not, Yes, July and August are the two hottest
months and so and really the average high for both
of those months is sixty eight. I will say that
I don't mind colder weather, and I don't mind that's
fall like weather. But there is something when you're on
summer vacation and it doesn't feel like summer day, there's
a little bit of a mind grap like you kind
(08:03):
of think, ooh, just how much better would this be
if it was ten degrees warmer.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
What do I tell you there is no such thing
as a vacation If I need a coat while I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
There, Yes, and so I guess well. And we also
worked in run a half marathon. So I think you
could pretty much say this was just a fun, amazing
change of scenery.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Something from us. We're sitting here telling people how we recover,
and it sounds exhausting, that is true, but.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It was amazing. And I was laughing at your reaction
to this specific island because how cute was it. Can
you describe how cute and amazing? And there was so
much outside seating, It was sweeping views, gorgeous architecture, quaint
as hell, cute restaurants.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It seemed like a place that Santa Claus with vacation,
like it would be his summer place.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's actually a really good way to no.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Way way to put it, because it was a little cool,
but it was sixty eight. You know it's sixty You
know Santa doesn't want it too warm, but this was
a little warmer than he's used to kind of a place,
and it was chill, and you could nobody's gonna know
your name, and you can have all kinds of privacy,
but they had laid out some of the best, like
lakeside or excuse me, this was the Baltic seat. When
(09:14):
are we talking about? This was like waterside dining, and
the views were unbelievable. It was wonderful, glooming in sixty two.
This is what it was. I think, I said, I said, wow,
we should have gotten married here. It was that kind
of special place that I saw. And the food was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
That food was amazing.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I still remember that waitress. It was wonderful. Everything was great.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
You said, what a waste, because you said you looked
around because there was like the most amazing seats that
were positioned everywhere, and they were all empty because.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It was too cold to sit outside, and so you
just looked around and you said, what a waste. This
is so gorgeous. Why can't it just be warmer? You said,
if it was warmer, you would come back once a year.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah, gets close enough. Nine hours. I mean you can
handle it. If you go for a week, I would.
I would love to go back. I told you. It
reminded me of Frankly, the Hamptons. It reminded me of
montak where you can still it's chill, and it's got
enough going on, but it still has a chill, almost
a surfer town vibe. And this is a major metropolitan
(10:20):
city that just had a chillness to it. I love
it and I will never go back.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Something else that's funny. Something else that wasn't lost on
us that I do think helped us recover while we
were working and while we were running, is that everyone
is so damn polite. There were no I did not
hear one honking of a horn in a major city.
I did not hear any noise. They're quiet, they're not loud.
(10:49):
I mean, if you there were not that many Americans there,
but when there were Americans there, you could hear them
a mile away. Because the Swedes are so quiet, so respectful,
so polite.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And orderly and just rule followers, and there is regiment here.
And I was love now that part. I'm telling you.
I love this place. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And the architecture is stunning. There was not one piece
of trash anywhere. Did you see litter anywhere? Did you
see graffiti anywhere? That was remarkable to me. And maybe
it's just because we live in New York and we're
so aware of graffiti and trash and honking horns and
sirens and loud, obnoxious people and rude people. Everyone was
(11:31):
basically the opposite of New York.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And you know what, you all we talk here about
New York congestion traffic. You know how compact Manhattan is.
They most of their traffic is people on bicycles. They
have a bike culture there that's comparable to Rome's scooter culture,
if you will. Most of the people are on bikes.
And to see them in these fairly wide bike lanes coming,
(11:55):
I mean we're not talking random few people. They are
bunched in like track like cars, and they are orderly,
they are polite, there are no issues.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Places great and there is one woman had three kids
with her on a bike. It was impressive as hell.
It looked like the Tour de France to me because they.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Were all bunched up so.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And I just thought, how is no one getting in
an accident? How is no one yelling at someone someone
cut them off? Even the bike. No one was ringing
their bike belts. It was I was we actually, I
think our jaws were dropped watching the process happen every
rush hour.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I love love Stockholm and it's a weird thing to
say I love a place so much and don't want
to go back because of that thing. Please, I'm not
knocking you all of Stockholm. Then they could do about
your weather. It's just I am a different blooded person.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So the other thing we did to recover and I
love this is one of my favorite things that we
share a passion for shopping. And you got another leather coats.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I gotta stop because has a stop.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
So did I. By the way, full admission, I didn't
need one either. But there's a big thrifting community there
and all of these stores are secondhand stores. We walked
in and you know sometimes when you go my kids
love to thrift, there is a smell that just lingers
in some of these stores and it's a little bit
of a turn off for me. You walked in these
places smelled amazing, They were curated perfectly. They even had
(13:17):
the colors all in like rainbow where it just you
wanted to go in and see what you could find.
I've never had more luck, or at least more excitement
going into a secondhand store, but they have. They're lined
with that.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Here's the thing, and I didn't think about this till
right now you walk into the store and don't realize
it for five minutes that you're in a secondhand store.
They're that nice.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
If they are so nice. But yeah, every time we
go somewhere to Europe, and yeah we were in Italy
last time, we hit Florence. But God's sake, so leather jackets,
leather everywhere. I obviously ride a motorcycle a lot of
people know, so I have a certainly collection of motorcycle jackets.
I do not need another leather jacket. I have every
variety you can think of. And sure enough we get there,
(13:59):
how many two?
Speaker 2 (13:59):
One you bought two? You bought two more leather jackets.
And actually the prices were amazing because they were secondhands,
so you weren't spending tons of money. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
No, the brown one, though.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Was it a little bit more, a little bit more.
But the one that you got second hand was one
hundred and twenty dollars. Yeah, and it was gorgeous, fantastic.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I'm gonna let y'all see it, y'all gonna.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You even said to me, please talk me out of
this robes, and I said I can't. I'm sorry, I'm
not your girl. When it comes to that, I can't
talk you out of it.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I'm begging anybody please. I don't need it. I don't
need but it's uh. That is always fun. And that
was another good part in the part I Love of Stockholm.
Never go back, never going back?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
All right, So when we come back, we'll tell you
how we recovered after our nine hour flight and I
think twenty two hours, twenty three hours straight of not sleeping,
and how we found a way to recover for the
rest of our week. Welcome back to this edition of Well.
(15:02):
I guess it's a Saturday morning run. It's our recovery run.
But we talk about what we did to relax, to enjoy,
to be intentional about doing something other than work, which
is actually a huge It's a tough thing for us
to schedule in and I think that's for a lot
of folks. It's hard sometimes to make a priority of fun.
(15:23):
And we've been really trying to do that even while
we're working, even when we're in different locations, to say, hey,
enough work, let's go do something where we can actually
enjoy ourselves and relax. I think that's important in life.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's harder for us now I say it's harder because
it's easier. I say it's easier that we have the equipment,
we can travel anywhere, we can podcast from anywhere in
the world. That's awesome, but it also means we can
podcast from anywhere in the world, so no matter where
we are, we have no.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Excuse, right, and so we end up working. But this
is why it's so important to find that time to
wind down. And so yes, if you've been listening to
our podcast this week, you'll know by now that one
of the first things we did on a day where
we had really bad sleep scores because of the travel back,
(16:10):
we decided to extend our day, stay up even later
and go relax and watch a horror movie. And not
just any horror movie. We went to go see The Conjuring,
the Final Installment, The Conjuring, the Last Rite.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I cannot believe we went and did this. We were exhausted,
We were actually really really exhausted, and we debated, I
think all we didn't decide what till four o'clock to
go to a six thirty movie, and we talked about
it all day and we finally I think it was me.
I'm tired of talking about it, book the ticket.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You absolutely made the call because I was leaning towards
maybe doing it on another day, and you said, we've
been excited about this movie for months now, this is
its opening preview night, and we said we were going
to go. Let's go, so we did.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
You know, what, how do you handle that? Because we
deal with this and a lot of people do. Where
do you what's the balance doing sacrificing because you said
so many times we have to prioritize sleep, write that
we have this debate in this fight all the time,
if you will, like, Okay, sleep is important, but man,
this thing over here is what we really want to do.
How do you always how do we end up finding
(17:16):
that balance? And which way do we end up going?
Because I know you are always on board with opportunity,
this and experience. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yes, So it's that whole notion. I'll sleep when I'm dead.
But I also know how important I feel like, especially
as I get older, for me to have a better
active life, for me to feel better while I'm doing
fun things, I really need to prioritize sleep. And now
I think it's the thing, especially Americans, where we almost
take pride in our few hours of sleep. See how
(17:46):
busy I was, See how active I was, See how
productive I was. But I don't want to be that
person because I used to be that person. Hell, I
used to brag that I didn't take my vacation days.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
This feels pretty stupid now.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
That is the dumbest thing I ever did in my life.
And when anyone asked me for advice when they're starting out,
I always say, take all your vacation days. Although hilariously enough,
I don't feel like this new generation needs that advice.
They're really good on that. But is that me just
sounding like an old bitter person.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
No, we've heard those stories, and look there's a let's
not get into that we did that episode later because
we could go off on a tangent on that. I'm
glad we made the call we did. We were afraid
we were going to fall asleep in the movie theater,
and sure enough it turned out to be a wonderful
experience the whole night. I don't know that was a
really I'm so glad we did that last night. That
was a highlight. I am glad we made that call.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I am very happy we did it too. And I
have to tell you night. Yeah, Thursday night, it had it.
Actually I had a hard time. I had to wind
down to try and go to sleep even though I
was tired, because I was so hyped up on seeing
that movie. That's how good it was. But the other thing,
so this is Saturday morning, and it is nice to
have a plan on the weekend to do something fun,
to do something you love, to relax and we are
(18:58):
in the season college football, so that is going to
be our relaxing. Our I guess our way to have
some fun and to chill this weekend is college football.
Go Dogs, go hogs. We're very excited about the season.
Fall is the best time of year for a lot
of reasons, but definitely because college football has begun.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Okay, you made me feel when we start these sometimes
like wow, we didn't do enough to actually prioritize ourselves,
our health, our sleep, our relationship. And then I started
talking to you about like, oh, wow, we actually did
and then I end up, Okay, maybe we're not doing
so bad. What was the line what's the thame of
the book? Kabby Beurnstein said, she gave us a type.
(19:41):
We're working on it. We're working on it, and we
are it seems like every week. Sometimes we don't do
it consciously, but we are working on it, and so
I'm as busy as it was, and we got it
all done. But I had a last with you this week,
and certainly the movie and running thirteen.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Well, we always appreciate you running with us, whether it's
a recovery run or Monday through Friday. But thank you
as always for listening to us. Everybody. I made me
Roeboch alongside TJ. Holmes, have a great, relaxing and fun weekend.
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