May 2, 2025 • 35 mins
She's one of the most famous drag queens on the planet and Peppermint is pouring all of her powerful rogue energy into her activism work in the trans and LGBTQ+ community. From why the New York Times is on her naughty list to the real reason Laverne Cox is her ultimate idol, she updates fans on her reality tv career and the one show she'd love to be a part of.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey everyone, it is me.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I am Peppermint, and I am hosting today's very.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Special episode of Rogue Energy.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Just so you know, for those of you who don't
know about me, I am a political influencer and actress,
a Broadway star, singer, and an all round nice gal
and so many more things than that. So on today's episode,
I am going to a Rogue Energy, mind you, I'm
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going to be diving into my role in the trans
community and also my role in the fabulous season two,
second season of Survival of the Thickest where I had
a wedding, my character got married, and I'm so excited
about it. So without further let's dive right into today's episode.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
So, I got to.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Tell you, when I was younger, there was no way
for me to envision any of the stuff that I've done,
And you know, I've had some I try to keep
myself busy, and it's every once in a while I
have a chance to sort of look back on my
life and reflect a little bit. And I've done some
pretty cool stuff. I've had the chance to perform on Broadway.
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I've obviously done some film and television, and some of
those things have been like dream moments personally for me,
and some of them have also been moments that have
been sort of.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Memorialized in history.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
As a first and there were some moments that were
considered history making, and I don't think about that as often,
but it is true that there were some moments that
were historic, and I'm really grateful to have been connected
to that. But as a young kid, I never even
thought that I'd be like living my life just like
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I legit. Did not envision some lady living and working
in New York City, like even if I was working
at like the store, let alone as an entertainer. And
mind you, I always wanted to be an entertainer, and
I think that was pretty obvious, But I never did
envision myself doing some of the things that some people
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would have described as great or you know, history making,
historic or boundary breaking. I just never I did never
envision that, and I think that has to do with
the fact that I just didn't have a lot of
role models and there weren't a lot of people to
sort of look up to that show that those things
were possible. That's a lot different today, because we have
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some wonderful leadership in the trans community that are.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Icons and beacons of light.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And I'm really grateful for having some people that I
consider mentors and also friends who are helping sort of
lead the way. And I think one of the things
about the position that I have right now is I
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do tend to take it pretty seriously because I'm a
pretty serious person. But I'm also like, I'm just as
like wild and gooky as I am serious. But I
think and I might be wrong in this, y'all have
to tell me. I think I'm good at reading the room.
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But if I'm not, then then you'll let me know
right now. But I also understand, and have had an
understanding for a while what sort of the balance or
the sort of back and forth between the trans community
and the community at large people who aren't trans. I've
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had an understanding of that, and I could see that
when people were talking about the drag bands for readings
at libraries, which was really happening around twenty twenty two,
the talk of that started to bubble up, I could
see that we were headed towards an anti trans country
where it was going to be illegal, where Texas would
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introduce legislation to make it a felony just for identifying
as trans and that was you know, that was years ago,
and here we are today where Texas is putting this
legislation forward where it doesn't look like it's going to
pass this week, but they will try again because it's
taken the same path that you know, abortion and bodily
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autonomy and reproductive care has taken, starting in Texas and
then working its way through And so no, I never
saw myself in this position as a youngster, and I
do take my position at my connection to the community,
as a person who's able to communicate about what we're
going through and our experiences to other people. I do
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take that kind of seriously and I try to involve
it in everything that I do. So Boom, I've been
asked about how I prepare for moments that are like
major newsmaking moments.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
And.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I have to say I in relation to advocating for
trans writes, I just say I don't know how to prepare.
I guess that's that you know, if you if you
if you're ready, you ain't got to get ready.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
You stay ready. So maybe it's that.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I do have lots of friends who are like care,
but like have told me they don't read the news.
They don't want to hear about the news. They don't
think about the news. If it like lands on their head,
then they'll look at it. I straight up, I look
for it.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I'm like, oh, no, no, what are they saying now? What?
I wonder what they're saying in Kalamazoo.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And so I'm quick to be like looking up what's
going on in the legislature today, what bills are passed,
what is not. So I stay kind of plugged in.
And I guess if you stay plugged in, you ain't
got to get plugged in. So when I get an
offer to talk about LGBT rights or what's going on
with the community with regards to legislation and different things,
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I think I'm pretty.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Usually pretty prepared, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And that's just the symptom of, you know, one of
my best friends who just made the bestseller list, Bob
did Queen. Although and I love the New York Times
bestseller list, I'm over the New York Times because of
their anti trans coverage that they have been doing, which
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has really assisted the Trump administration in sort of disenfranchising
folks from all the rights that we used to enjoy.
But congratulations, pot the Dragon queen who's writing a book
about Harry Tubman. And you know, I guess I think
about my ancestors like Harriet Tubman, who you know, Harry
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Tubman led the Underground Railroad. I don't think we were
to call it Harry Tubman on a day off. Like
Harry Tubman was always ready. And so that's what I
think about, in addition to the other fabulous trans icons
and pioneers who've been who I know that I'm friends with,
who've been doing this kind of thing much longer than me,
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and then those who are no longer with us, who
were doing this thing long before where we were born.
And that's I think about them whenever I'm called on,
and that's how I stay ready. Speaking of role models,
I mean, I guess that would be remiss if I
didn't say the fabulous Laverne Cox.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
People.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I mean, Laverne has been obviously an actress and an entertainer,
but also an advocate for the trans community, and I
would say for the greater LGBTQ plus community and for
women for in just so many ways. I remember, you know,
having lunch with her, and because we've known each other
before anybody was on any kind of TV program, and
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I can remember people coming up to her in the
very early years of Arn't Is the New Black, which
is obviously the hit show that she was on, and
you know, wanting to take a picture and all of
these things. And a lot of times it wasn't trans folks.
It was usually like cis gender women who loved the
show and had never probably never obviously never met Laverne,
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probably never met a trans person before. Many of them
kind of expressed so much in so many words, and yeah,
I'm I'm in awe of her and some of my
other fabulous girlfriends that I love, Trace Lacette, Mielia jam
Jocelyn de Fries, so many of them. These ladies in
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particular are actresses. But another actress who is no longer
with us, that I had a chance to portray in
her sort of self written one woman show that passed
before we were able to she was able to perform
it for herself, as Cecilia Jantilly, who is an activist
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and an icon and an actress and an entertainer and
a mother, a brilliant trans woman who has done so
much for the trans community, the AIDS and HIV community,
and also the immigrant community and the sex worker community.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And so.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
While I don't necessarily hold all of those cards, I
do admire her strength. And so those are some people
that I highly recommend looking up if you haven't, if
you're not currently like looking it up right now, as
you listen to my voice, when you stop, next time
I stop talking, you go in and look those ladies up.
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Please show them some love wherever they are. I'd say
that one of the most rewarding moments for me. As
you know, I don't actually usually call myself an activist,
by the way, I but I'm an actress. That's my
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profession and entertainer, and I'm only an actorctivist or like
an advocate or like involved in advocacy because like my
rids are being stripped away, I'm doing what any human
being would do, is fight for themselves if they were
under attack. Not saying that everybody who's in the trans
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community needs to be, but there is certainly the notion
that just living your life out loud and proud is
a sort of everyday activism, and so I travel down
that path. But I have done some great things, some
things that I consider to be great for myself and
accomplishments and things that.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I never thought that I would do.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Never did I think that I would have the opportunity
to stand on the steps of the Supreme Court in
twenty nineteen and witness the decision on the Amy Stevens
you know, court case that decided work pace protections and
granted workplace protections on the basis of sex non discrimination
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for trans folks and gender identity for gender identity and
sexuality in the decision, and that was a major moment.
It felt like such a victory. It felt so overdue that, like,
you know, only in twenty nineteen was the Supreme Court
deciding about whether or not it was legal to fire
someone for being gay or trans.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Get out of town.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Never, never did I think I'd be back on those
Supreme Court steps just a few months ago in twenty
twenty four, trying to advocate for the right to have
healthcare as a transperson and so being on the steps
of the Supreme Court is not anything that I ever
thought I would do and I would get to do,
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but it was.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It was a wonderful moment.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And even in December of twenty twenty four, it feels
like so long ago that the courts meant something in
those days.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I don't mean to be a Debbie downer, but a
good grieve.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
As a performer, and a lot of people, do you know,
try to ask me to pick a lane, and I
think it's easier these days to be sort of a
multi hyphen it performer and advocate and singer and dancer,
whatever it's going to be. But I'd say that I
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don't really have a favorite medium to perform in. That's
one of the questions that I was asked, is what's
your favorite medium to perform in? And I don't think
that I have one. I do love so many aspects.
What I love about Broadway or theater is feeling the
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audience's reaction, Whereas even the same sort of piece or
the same conversation taking place in a movie or film
and television, you don't get the audience's reactions. Sometimes if
you're at home watching you can get like canned laughter,
And obviously music and scoring helps with that.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
But the thing that I love about theater.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Is obviously that it is live and that you can
whatever's being created there on that stage is the byproduct
of the energy that's in the room, the enthusiasm of
the audience, the nervousness of the actors all swirled up
into one. And that is what I love about theater.
What I love about film and television is sort of
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the speed at which things take place. And I love
that you can work hard and give the best performance
you can and then it's immortalized and then you only
have to do it once, one good time. And I
mean you end up doing it like a hundred times,
but you only have to do it one good time,
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you know. And so those are some some things that
I love about both. But it's really difficult for me
to pick pick one lane. If I was gonna pick
a lane, I would have done about it. Now I'm
just gonna stick to knitting. On that note, like a
lot of people do ask me, like, what is your
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dream role? And I have to say, I don't have
a dream role. There.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I guess there's a lot of like classics that I
could say, Oh, I'd love to play Juliet, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I would love to play like not that I just
want to play myself, but I would love to play
someone who's experiences mirror mine, because I think that's something
that so many other actors have had the opportunity to do.
If they're not trans alone, that is usually enough. You know,
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when I'm not on.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Stage getting a standing ovation.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I really love to watch horror movies, and twenty twenty
five is chock full.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
The schedule. The agenda is agenda in.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Oh no God, Whenever I say agenda, I think of
like a presidency or something. Lots of scary movies are
coming out, so I'm going to be right at home
watching all those scary movies. That's what I like to
do to unwind, is like scary movies, Little min chocolate chip,
ice cream, some tea, and I am good to go.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I don't really need much more than that to stay
relaxed and centered. The other thing I do need is
time with my friends.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Having alone time with the girls is wonderful and refreshing
and revitalizing in all the re words that I can
think of. You know, one thing that people probably don't
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know about me is that I, despite contrary to popular belief,
I am actually I would consider I would say that
I'm very enthusiastic about tech. And I won't say I'm
great at tech, but I am enthusiastic about it, very
enthusiastic about it.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
My friends call me inspector gadget. There you have it.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So for Survival of the Thickest Season two on Netflix,
I am excited to be back. And I mean, the
good thing about Netflix is the good and bad thing
about Netflix is they drop everything all at once. And
so this show has got to be the easiest show
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and the quickest binge I've ever watched on Netflix. Like,
it is so easy, easy to watch, it is not
even funny.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
But spoiler I do. My character gets married.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
My character Peppermint, who is based and inspired by me,
gets married this season to a fabulous actor named Dan
Amboyer who was on Younger among other things, and he's
currently on he's currently off Broadway in a play.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
So I'm excited about that. I'm gonna go see it.
But that is that's a little tidbit.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I will say also that Peppermint's role in Survive that
the Thickest season two is beefed up this year and
there's a pivotal moment that is pivotal for everyone, and
it's through Peppermint that everyone's life changes. That's all I
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can say. You better watch it. I mean, you don't
you want to see that is like some good stuff.
Michelle Buteaux, I gotta tell you, is an absolute houte.
She is just like she is when you see her
on social media on TV. She is wild and funny
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and very like down to earth, but she is also
really queer centric and everything else centric. It's really important
for her to have like disabled people and people of
color women, you know, the entire most of I think
seventy percent of the behind the scenes crew on the
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show was women of color, which I have never seen
before until this show, and I'm really grateful for it.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Working with Michelle again was wonderful because she came up
to me and said that she wanted to do something
special for my care dur this season. I hope that
doesn't mean next season they would be killing me off
or anything. I guess we'll find out, but she said
she wanted to get it right. She didn't want to
just slap something up there, you know, And so it
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feels great to work with someone like Michelle. It feels
great to work with Michelle, and especially someone like Michelle
who is you know, really focused on making sure that
everybody just like brings their best to what we're about
to do, and the best way to do that is
to be inclusive. Hello, you know most of the behind
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the scenes moments that I wasn't really around for a
lot of the behind the scenes moment. I always stay
in my trailer until the last moment, and I don't
like waiting around, So I would like just be in
my trailer listening to music, whatever I'm going to do,
and then they'll be like, Okay, we're ready, and they
would invite you to set, and so I usually was
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not there for the time where the cast was like,
you know, shooting the shit or whatever they were going
to do. However, when Beyonce's I'm Blanking a Beyonce song
came out a couple of years ago, and we were
doing the dance, Honey doing the dance and I got
video evidence of it and tone Bell it's one of
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the most talented people I've ever seen. This brother can
roller skate and do all kinds of stuff that looks
like he's straight out in the seventies. He cannot dance.
I'm just gonna say it. I don't think he can dance.
It's on video anyway. This season, I'm really grateful for
Michelle bumping up my character's arc. And you know, I
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have a lot of things in common with the character
of Peppermint. She was based on me, But I have
no idea what it's like to get married and experience
a sort of love that it's a parent that she's
experiencing in this.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And I haven't quite had that.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So that's one way that my life doesn't line up
with the Peppermint on TV Good Grieve. But she does
work in a drag bar. She owns the drag bar.
Mind you excuse me, thank you very much, and I
don't own they any drag bar. Okay, this is getting depressing.
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So obviously by now we see that for those of
you who have seen, and I guess for those of
you who haven't, we this season get to see my
character celebrate a marriage on the show to Dan Amboyer Harris,
to the character of Harrison played by Dan Amboyer. And
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so the question is did the inspiration for the wedding
come from dreams of my own?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
No? I actually did not. I still don't know that
I need to get married.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I got nobody to marry, so I'm not really focused
on getting married. I need to focus on getting there
whatever there is. But Dan made it really so the
idea did not come for me. I cannot even begin
to take credit for it. Of course, I was very
supportive of it. I'm not gonna say it didn't came
from me. It just wasn't my particular idea. But Michelle
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did say that she just loved to observe her friends,
and she and I started spending lots of time together
throughout the year, and so I do feel confident saying
that she probably was eavesdropping and then decided to put
it in the show. No, she did use some of
the conversations that we had had to guide her and
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what would result in a wedding for my character. But
that's not because I want to get married. It's just because,
you know, trans folks deserve love just like everybody else,
and let's show it, you know. That's kind of the vibe.
I don't personally view the idea of marriage as anything
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that I'm interested in. To me, marriage is really about
transfer of property. And I'm not saying that marriages don't
have contained love, but I do think that, like for myself,
if I were to get married, it would be because
I need to have a house or you know, the benefits,
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all the benefits that and rights that married couples are
able to enjoy. I hope stay in place for folks
in the queer community. But it's not looking so good, y'all.
It's not looking so good. So yeah, I do think
about marriage as sort of an agreement that allows both
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parties to enjoy more rights, and they would have had
they not been together. Obviously, people get married for different reasons.
I think if I were to look for a partner
for marriage, then I would want somebody who's loyal. I
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mean the basics, which is not a very high bar
for men. By the way, I'm attracted to men primarily,
which is like.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
The worst.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But of all the qualities that I would list in
a partner, I bet you a lot of men wouldn't
want to step up.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Just honesty, how about that? That's all I want. Let's see.
Don't hold your breath.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So, marriage equality was a huge milestone for the LGBTQ
plus community and our rights. The fight for our rights
rather is still happening even all these years, almost ten
years later, the fight for our rights is still happening.
I think one of the things that needs to change
is really rethinking the truth of the matter is like
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a lot of the things, even though local election count politically,
because these are the people that decide on what happens with,
you know, your local resources. I do see a connection
between so many other things that I didn't see is
connected before. Uh, you know, the simple version of it is, Oh,
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why don't we have you know, why do we have
so much pollution in our river? Oh this big corporation
that's not even headquarters headquartered in your state. It changed
the laws so that they could be right along the
river and dump chemicals in. And I mean that's the
kind of thing that's happening under like the new administration,
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not that it didn't happen before, but you know, yeah,
I don't know what really I could change. The only
thing I think that we can do is continue to
sort of have conversations in boot bridges with each other,
because we are certainly more separated and separate and sort
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of segregated in an odd way, especially lately, like politically,
I think a lot of people can acknowledge that, And
so that's ultimately the first step. I think if we
are able to connect with one another and feel a
connection and feel a love and a bond with one another.
Then we hopefully won't sit by and like just idly
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watch people's rights get stripped away. You know, there's a
few things that I would like to do, though, as
busy as I am, I would love to go on
to The Celebrity Mole or any Mole. The Mole, which
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is a Netflix show. There's also a newer one called
it's kind of like a mix between The Mole and Traders.
It's called Oh I think it's called Greed. Oh my god,
it's good. It's not great. It's not the Mall, but
it's good. So I would go on Greed or The
Mole if it was for In terms of reality TV,
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I would have loved to go on Squid Games.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I am a horror.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Squid Games is not horror, but I am a horror
and sort of like, I'm not into violence, let's just
put that out there. I'm not like misviolent. But the
television show, the series Squid Games, is a great one.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It's obviously a hit.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
And I like the idea of playing games, actual games competitively,
like things like from your childhood, like some kind of
jump rope or marbles or whatever they're gonna play.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I like that I like the idea of doing that.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Of course, I'm thinking in the context of the TV shows,
like as an actor and performer.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And I really love Squid Game. I probably wouldn't last listen.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I wouldn't last one day, not because I'm not good,
but like they would write it that way. They'd be like, oh,
let's get rid of her first, just like they did
with Traders. And no coincidence that the people that do
the reality show for Squid Games are the same people
that produce Traders.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
So I wouldn't have a chance.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
But but I love the series so much and I
think it's really good. I do think it's gonna jump
the shark a little bit. So I probably would not
do a season three if they asked me to do
a since some three, But just in general, I do
love the show and I think it's really really really
good and really well done. And yeah, I would go
on there as a guest star. So those are the
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I guess my top three things that I would like
to go on. But I mean, I'm an unemployed actor,
so like, honey, just ring my phone and I will
go on the show, you know what I mean, especially
if you're on the East coast. Yeah, until then, I
have no idea what's next for me. I'm disappointed and
a little nervous on how the political world is feeling
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right now. That bleeds into the social so it's like
just our everyday thing. But I'm also really energized by
this moment because I do think that this is a
great opportunity for so many of us to pull in
with our allies and you know, obviously build those bridges
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that I talked about a little bit earlier. And so
while I don't have anything specific to announce other than
go watch Survival that the tickets season two on Netflix,
I am really energized for whatever the future holds, which
will probably involve some running.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
From some of us.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
If your community has been named in a political ad
in the last six months, you better get your run
in sneakers on me.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
That's all I got to say.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Another thing that I'm really energized about is the fact
that for once, as opposed to when I was younger,
I'm able to make a living and make a little
bit of an impact using the tools that I know
the best about myself, about the LGBTQ plus community, about
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being a black woman. These are the things that I'm very.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Comfortable with, and.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I'm grateful that there are people who like Michelle Buteaux
and Netflix who want to hear some of those stories.
I think it would be great if there were more
than one story. But getting the opportunity to tell my
tell a version of a story like mine in a
major show that's on Netflix, which is obviously a major
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platform available in.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
One hundred and ninety countries, feels great.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
You know, And I hope I get to do more
of that in the future.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
And I want to be challenged, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I don't necessarily have one achievement in my career that's
like something people would necessarily resonate with. But I do remember,
really early on, my mom took me to a lecture.
I've told this story once or twice before. My mom
took me to a college lecture once. She and I
are close in age. And John Amos, who's an actor.
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He played the father on Good Times and was also
one of the villains in Die Hard Too, If anybody's interested,
He was talking and lecturing the students and he asked
the acting students, you know, what do you like to do?
And one of the students was like, oh, I'm a
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professional actor. And John Amos was like, well, if you're
not working professionally as an actor and making a living
off of it, then you're not a professional actor.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
You're an actor.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And I mean that sounds like a bit of a read.
But I was like eight years old or something at
the time and ever since then, my only goal that
I had had from that moment on as a result
of that conversation was to go and be a professional
entertainer in New York. And before you knew it, once
I got to New York, I was working seven days
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a week entertaining.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
In the clubs. You know, I mean it is the clubs.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
There was no pension and you know, for a one
k but I was paying my bills and living in
one of the hardest cities to live in the world.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
And I was like, I made it. This is it.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
And that clicked in my brain and it never shut off.
So no matter what I do, I feel like I've
already made it. I feel great, I'm happy, and I
have people that I love around me, and I think
that's especially going into the next four years. That is
one of the things that I think that each of
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us need to strive to do is to gain happiness
through methods are that you can control. Obviously, if you
hit the lottery, you're gonna be happy, maybe at least temporarily,
but you can't control that. But what we can control
are the things that are happening in our lives and
around us. And so finding happiness in any way, shape
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or form through that is my advice. And the way
that I usually do that is focusing on what I'm
grateful for and that always helps me get into greater
perspective for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
So this has been you know, calculous with Peppermint.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I hope you have enjoyed listening to me guest hosting.
It's been an absolute pleasure. Make sure you tune into
the very next episode coming at you soon so that
you can see who else is going to be on
this microphone. I'm super grateful for everybody here at Rogue
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Energy and to all of you listeners. For the those
of you that would care too. You feel free to
follow me on all my social media's It's Peppermint two
four seven everywhere. Make sure you also follow all things
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new TikTok, so you can follow me there. You can
follow me anywhere. Just don't follow me in real life
(35:18):
because I will let you know. Anyway, I'm Peppermint. Thanks
for listening, and we will see you next time.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Bye.
Hey everyone, it is me.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I am Peppermint, and I am hosting today's very.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Special episode of Rogue Energy.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Just so you know, for those of you who don't
know about me, I am a political influencer and actress,
a Broadway star, singer, and an all round nice gal
and so many more things than that. So on today's episode,
I am going to a Rogue Energy, mind you, I'm
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going to be diving into my role in the trans
community and also my role in the fabulous season two,
second season of Survival of the Thickest where I had
a wedding, my character got married, and I'm so excited
about it. So without further let's dive right into today's episode.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
So, I got to.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Tell you, when I was younger, there was no way
for me to envision any of the stuff that I've done,
And you know, I've had some I try to keep
myself busy, and it's every once in a while I
have a chance to sort of look back on my
life and reflect a little bit. And I've done some
pretty cool stuff. I've had the chance to perform on Broadway.
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I've obviously done some film and television, and some of
those things have been like dream moments personally for me,
and some of them have also been moments that have
been sort of.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Memorialized in history.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
As a first and there were some moments that were
considered history making, and I don't think about that as often,
but it is true that there were some moments that
were historic, and I'm really grateful to have been connected
to that. But as a young kid, I never even
thought that I'd be like living my life just like
(02:05):
I legit. Did not envision some lady living and working
in New York City, like even if I was working
at like the store, let alone as an entertainer. And
mind you, I always wanted to be an entertainer, and
I think that was pretty obvious, But I never did
envision myself doing some of the things that some people
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would have described as great or you know, history making,
historic or boundary breaking. I just never I did never
envision that, and I think that has to do with
the fact that I just didn't have a lot of
role models and there weren't a lot of people to
sort of look up to that show that those things
were possible. That's a lot different today, because we have
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some wonderful leadership in the trans community that are.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Icons and beacons of light.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
And I'm really grateful for having some people that I
consider mentors and also friends who are helping sort of
lead the way. And I think one of the things
about the position that I have right now is I
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do tend to take it pretty seriously because I'm a
pretty serious person. But I'm also like, I'm just as
like wild and gooky as I am serious. But I
think and I might be wrong in this, y'all have
to tell me. I think I'm good at reading the room.
(03:43):
But if I'm not, then then you'll let me know
right now. But I also understand, and have had an
understanding for a while what sort of the balance or
the sort of back and forth between the trans community
and the community at large people who aren't trans. I've
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had an understanding of that, and I could see that
when people were talking about the drag bands for readings
at libraries, which was really happening around twenty twenty two,
the talk of that started to bubble up, I could
see that we were headed towards an anti trans country
where it was going to be illegal, where Texas would
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introduce legislation to make it a felony just for identifying
as trans and that was you know, that was years ago,
and here we are today where Texas is putting this
legislation forward where it doesn't look like it's going to
pass this week, but they will try again because it's
taken the same path that you know, abortion and bodily
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autonomy and reproductive care has taken, starting in Texas and
then working its way through And so no, I never
saw myself in this position as a youngster, and I
do take my position at my connection to the community,
as a person who's able to communicate about what we're
going through and our experiences to other people. I do
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take that kind of seriously and I try to involve
it in everything that I do. So Boom, I've been
asked about how I prepare for moments that are like
major newsmaking moments.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
And.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I have to say I in relation to advocating for
trans writes, I just say I don't know how to prepare.
I guess that's that you know, if you if you
if you're ready, you ain't got to get ready.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
You stay ready. So maybe it's that.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I do have lots of friends who are like care,
but like have told me they don't read the news.
They don't want to hear about the news. They don't
think about the news. If it like lands on their head,
then they'll look at it. I straight up, I look
for it.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
I'm like, oh, no, no, what are they saying now? What?
I wonder what they're saying in Kalamazoo.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
And so I'm quick to be like looking up what's
going on in the legislature today, what bills are passed,
what is not. So I stay kind of plugged in.
And I guess if you stay plugged in, you ain't
got to get plugged in. So when I get an
offer to talk about LGBT rights or what's going on
with the community with regards to legislation and different things,
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I think I'm pretty.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Usually pretty prepared, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
And that's just the symptom of, you know, one of
my best friends who just made the bestseller list, Bob
did Queen. Although and I love the New York Times
bestseller list, I'm over the New York Times because of
their anti trans coverage that they have been doing, which
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has really assisted the Trump administration in sort of disenfranchising
folks from all the rights that we used to enjoy.
But congratulations, pot the Dragon queen who's writing a book
about Harry Tubman. And you know, I guess I think
about my ancestors like Harriet Tubman, who you know, Harry
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Tubman led the Underground Railroad. I don't think we were
to call it Harry Tubman on a day off. Like
Harry Tubman was always ready. And so that's what I
think about, in addition to the other fabulous trans icons
and pioneers who've been who I know that I'm friends with,
who've been doing this kind of thing much longer than me,
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and then those who are no longer with us, who
were doing this thing long before where we were born.
And that's I think about them whenever I'm called on,
and that's how I stay ready. Speaking of role models,
I mean, I guess that would be remiss if I
didn't say the fabulous Laverne Cox.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
People.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I mean, Laverne has been obviously an actress and an entertainer,
but also an advocate for the trans community, and I
would say for the greater LGBTQ plus community and for
women for in just so many ways. I remember, you know,
having lunch with her, and because we've known each other
before anybody was on any kind of TV program, and
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I can remember people coming up to her in the
very early years of Arn't Is the New Black, which
is obviously the hit show that she was on, and
you know, wanting to take a picture and all of
these things. And a lot of times it wasn't trans folks.
It was usually like cis gender women who loved the
show and had never probably never obviously never met Laverne,
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probably never met a trans person before. Many of them
kind of expressed so much in so many words, and yeah,
I'm I'm in awe of her and some of my
other fabulous girlfriends that I love, Trace Lacette, Mielia jam
Jocelyn de Fries, so many of them. These ladies in
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particular are actresses. But another actress who is no longer
with us, that I had a chance to portray in
her sort of self written one woman show that passed
before we were able to she was able to perform
it for herself, as Cecilia Jantilly, who is an activist
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and an icon and an actress and an entertainer and
a mother, a brilliant trans woman who has done so
much for the trans community, the AIDS and HIV community,
and also the immigrant community and the sex worker community.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And so.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
While I don't necessarily hold all of those cards, I
do admire her strength. And so those are some people
that I highly recommend looking up if you haven't, if
you're not currently like looking it up right now, as
you listen to my voice, when you stop, next time
I stop talking, you go in and look those ladies up.
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Please show them some love wherever they are. I'd say
that one of the most rewarding moments for me. As
you know, I don't actually usually call myself an activist,
by the way, I but I'm an actress. That's my
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profession and entertainer, and I'm only an actorctivist or like
an advocate or like involved in advocacy because like my
rids are being stripped away, I'm doing what any human
being would do, is fight for themselves if they were
under attack. Not saying that everybody who's in the trans
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community needs to be, but there is certainly the notion
that just living your life out loud and proud is
a sort of everyday activism, and so I travel down
that path. But I have done some great things, some
things that I consider to be great for myself and
accomplishments and things that.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I never thought that I would do.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Never did I think that I would have the opportunity
to stand on the steps of the Supreme Court in
twenty nineteen and witness the decision on the Amy Stevens
you know, court case that decided work pace protections and
granted workplace protections on the basis of sex non discrimination
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for trans folks and gender identity for gender identity and
sexuality in the decision, and that was a major moment.
It felt like such a victory. It felt so overdue that, like,
you know, only in twenty nineteen was the Supreme Court
deciding about whether or not it was legal to fire
someone for being gay or trans.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Get out of town.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Never, never did I think I'd be back on those
Supreme Court steps just a few months ago in twenty
twenty four, trying to advocate for the right to have
healthcare as a transperson and so being on the steps
of the Supreme Court is not anything that I ever
thought I would do and I would get to do,
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but it was.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It was a wonderful moment.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
And even in December of twenty twenty four, it feels
like so long ago that the courts meant something in
those days.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I don't mean to be a Debbie downer, but a
good grieve.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
As a performer, and a lot of people, do you know,
try to ask me to pick a lane, and I
think it's easier these days to be sort of a
multi hyphen it performer and advocate and singer and dancer,
whatever it's going to be. But I'd say that I
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don't really have a favorite medium to perform in. That's
one of the questions that I was asked, is what's
your favorite medium to perform in? And I don't think
that I have one. I do love so many aspects.
What I love about Broadway or theater is feeling the
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audience's reaction, Whereas even the same sort of piece or
the same conversation taking place in a movie or film
and television, you don't get the audience's reactions. Sometimes if
you're at home watching you can get like canned laughter,
And obviously music and scoring helps with that.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
But the thing that I love about theater.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Is obviously that it is live and that you can
whatever's being created there on that stage is the byproduct
of the energy that's in the room, the enthusiasm of
the audience, the nervousness of the actors all swirled up
into one. And that is what I love about theater.
What I love about film and television is sort of
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the speed at which things take place. And I love
that you can work hard and give the best performance
you can and then it's immortalized and then you only
have to do it once, one good time. And I
mean you end up doing it like a hundred times,
but you only have to do it one good time,
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you know. And so those are some some things that
I love about both. But it's really difficult for me
to pick pick one lane. If I was gonna pick
a lane, I would have done about it. Now I'm
just gonna stick to knitting. On that note, like a
lot of people do ask me, like, what is your
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dream role? And I have to say, I don't have
a dream role. There.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I guess there's a lot of like classics that I
could say, Oh, I'd love to play Juliet, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I would love to play like not that I just
want to play myself, but I would love to play
someone who's experiences mirror mine, because I think that's something
that so many other actors have had the opportunity to do.
If they're not trans alone, that is usually enough. You know,
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when I'm not on.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Stage getting a standing ovation.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I really love to watch horror movies, and twenty twenty
five is chock full.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
The schedule. The agenda is agenda in.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Oh no God, Whenever I say agenda, I think of
like a presidency or something. Lots of scary movies are
coming out, so I'm going to be right at home
watching all those scary movies. That's what I like to
do to unwind, is like scary movies, Little min chocolate chip,
ice cream, some tea, and I am good to go.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I don't really need much more than that to stay
relaxed and centered. The other thing I do need is
time with my friends.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Having alone time with the girls is wonderful and refreshing
and revitalizing in all the re words that I can
think of. You know, one thing that people probably don't
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know about me is that I, despite contrary to popular belief,
I am actually I would consider I would say that
I'm very enthusiastic about tech. And I won't say I'm
great at tech, but I am enthusiastic about it, very
enthusiastic about it.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
My friends call me inspector gadget. There you have it.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
So for Survival of the Thickest Season two on Netflix,
I am excited to be back. And I mean, the
good thing about Netflix is the good and bad thing
about Netflix is they drop everything all at once. And
so this show has got to be the easiest show
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and the quickest binge I've ever watched on Netflix. Like,
it is so easy, easy to watch, it is not
even funny.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
But spoiler I do. My character gets married.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
My character Peppermint, who is based and inspired by me,
gets married this season to a fabulous actor named Dan
Amboyer who was on Younger among other things, and he's
currently on he's currently off Broadway in a play.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
So I'm excited about that. I'm gonna go see it.
But that is that's a little tidbit.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I will say also that Peppermint's role in Survive that
the Thickest season two is beefed up this year and
there's a pivotal moment that is pivotal for everyone, and
it's through Peppermint that everyone's life changes. That's all I
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can say. You better watch it. I mean, you don't
you want to see that is like some good stuff.
Michelle Buteaux, I gotta tell you, is an absolute houte.
She is just like she is when you see her
on social media on TV. She is wild and funny
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and very like down to earth, but she is also
really queer centric and everything else centric. It's really important
for her to have like disabled people and people of
color women, you know, the entire most of I think
seventy percent of the behind the scenes crew on the
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show was women of color, which I have never seen
before until this show, and I'm really grateful for it.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Working with Michelle again was wonderful because she came up
to me and said that she wanted to do something
special for my care dur this season. I hope that
doesn't mean next season they would be killing me off
or anything. I guess we'll find out, but she said
she wanted to get it right. She didn't want to
just slap something up there, you know, And so it
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feels great to work with someone like Michelle. It feels
great to work with Michelle, and especially someone like Michelle
who is you know, really focused on making sure that
everybody just like brings their best to what we're about
to do, and the best way to do that is
to be inclusive. Hello, you know most of the behind
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the scenes moments that I wasn't really around for a
lot of the behind the scenes moment. I always stay
in my trailer until the last moment, and I don't
like waiting around, So I would like just be in
my trailer listening to music, whatever I'm going to do,
and then they'll be like, Okay, we're ready, and they
would invite you to set, and so I usually was
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not there for the time where the cast was like,
you know, shooting the shit or whatever they were going
to do. However, when Beyonce's I'm Blanking a Beyonce song
came out a couple of years ago, and we were
doing the dance, Honey doing the dance and I got
video evidence of it and tone Bell it's one of
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the most talented people I've ever seen. This brother can
roller skate and do all kinds of stuff that looks
like he's straight out in the seventies. He cannot dance.
I'm just gonna say it. I don't think he can dance.
It's on video anyway. This season, I'm really grateful for
Michelle bumping up my character's arc. And you know, I
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have a lot of things in common with the character
of Peppermint. She was based on me, But I have
no idea what it's like to get married and experience
a sort of love that it's a parent that she's
experiencing in this.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And I haven't quite had that.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So that's one way that my life doesn't line up
with the Peppermint on TV Good Grieve. But she does
work in a drag bar. She owns the drag bar.
Mind you excuse me, thank you very much, and I
don't own they any drag bar. Okay, this is getting depressing.
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So obviously by now we see that for those of
you who have seen, and I guess for those of
you who haven't, we this season get to see my
character celebrate a marriage on the show to Dan Amboyer Harris,
to the character of Harrison played by Dan Amboyer. And
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so the question is did the inspiration for the wedding
come from dreams of my own?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
No? I actually did not. I still don't know that
I need to get married.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I got nobody to marry, so I'm not really focused
on getting married. I need to focus on getting there
whatever there is. But Dan made it really so the
idea did not come for me. I cannot even begin
to take credit for it. Of course, I was very
supportive of it. I'm not gonna say it didn't came
from me. It just wasn't my particular idea. But Michelle
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did say that she just loved to observe her friends,
and she and I started spending lots of time together
throughout the year, and so I do feel confident saying
that she probably was eavesdropping and then decided to put
it in the show. No, she did use some of
the conversations that we had had to guide her and
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what would result in a wedding for my character. But
that's not because I want to get married. It's just because,
you know, trans folks deserve love just like everybody else,
and let's show it, you know. That's kind of the vibe.
I don't personally view the idea of marriage as anything
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that I'm interested in. To me, marriage is really about
transfer of property. And I'm not saying that marriages don't
have contained love, but I do think that, like for myself,
if I were to get married, it would be because
I need to have a house or you know, the benefits,
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all the benefits that and rights that married couples are
able to enjoy. I hope stay in place for folks
in the queer community. But it's not looking so good, y'all.
It's not looking so good. So yeah, I do think
about marriage as sort of an agreement that allows both
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parties to enjoy more rights, and they would have had
they not been together. Obviously, people get married for different reasons.
I think if I were to look for a partner
for marriage, then I would want somebody who's loyal. I
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mean the basics, which is not a very high bar
for men. By the way, I'm attracted to men primarily,
which is like.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
The worst.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But of all the qualities that I would list in
a partner, I bet you a lot of men wouldn't
want to step up.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Just honesty, how about that? That's all I want. Let's see.
Don't hold your breath.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So, marriage equality was a huge milestone for the LGBTQ
plus community and our rights. The fight for our rights
rather is still happening even all these years, almost ten
years later, the fight for our rights is still happening.
I think one of the things that needs to change
is really rethinking the truth of the matter is like
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a lot of the things, even though local election count politically,
because these are the people that decide on what happens with,
you know, your local resources. I do see a connection
between so many other things that I didn't see is
connected before. Uh, you know, the simple version of it is, Oh,
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why don't we have you know, why do we have
so much pollution in our river? Oh this big corporation
that's not even headquarters headquartered in your state. It changed
the laws so that they could be right along the
river and dump chemicals in. And I mean that's the
kind of thing that's happening under like the new administration,
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not that it didn't happen before, but you know, yeah,
I don't know what really I could change. The only
thing I think that we can do is continue to
sort of have conversations in boot bridges with each other,
because we are certainly more separated and separate and sort
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of segregated in an odd way, especially lately, like politically,
I think a lot of people can acknowledge that, And
so that's ultimately the first step. I think if we
are able to connect with one another and feel a
connection and feel a love and a bond with one another.
Then we hopefully won't sit by and like just idly
(27:26):
watch people's rights get stripped away. You know, there's a
few things that I would like to do, though, as
busy as I am, I would love to go on
to The Celebrity Mole or any Mole. The Mole, which
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is a Netflix show. There's also a newer one called
it's kind of like a mix between The Mole and Traders.
It's called Oh I think it's called Greed. Oh my god,
it's good. It's not great. It's not the Mall, but
it's good. So I would go on Greed or The
Mole if it was for In terms of reality TV,
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I would have loved to go on Squid Games.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I am a horror.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Squid Games is not horror, but I am a horror
and sort of like, I'm not into violence, let's just
put that out there. I'm not like misviolent. But the
television show, the series Squid Games, is a great one.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It's obviously a hit.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
And I like the idea of playing games, actual games competitively,
like things like from your childhood, like some kind of
jump rope or marbles or whatever they're gonna play.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I like that I like the idea of doing that.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Of course, I'm thinking in the context of the TV shows,
like as an actor and performer.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And I really love Squid Game. I probably wouldn't last listen.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I wouldn't last one day, not because I'm not good,
but like they would write it that way. They'd be like, oh,
let's get rid of her first, just like they did
with Traders. And no coincidence that the people that do
the reality show for Squid Games are the same people
that produce Traders.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
So I wouldn't have a chance.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
But but I love the series so much and I
think it's really good. I do think it's gonna jump
the shark a little bit. So I probably would not
do a season three if they asked me to do
a since some three, But just in general, I do
love the show and I think it's really really really
good and really well done. And yeah, I would go
on there as a guest star. So those are the
(29:33):
I guess my top three things that I would like
to go on. But I mean, I'm an unemployed actor,
so like, honey, just ring my phone and I will
go on the show, you know what I mean, especially
if you're on the East coast. Yeah, until then, I
have no idea what's next for me. I'm disappointed and
a little nervous on how the political world is feeling
(29:58):
right now. That bleeds into the social so it's like
just our everyday thing. But I'm also really energized by
this moment because I do think that this is a
great opportunity for so many of us to pull in
with our allies and you know, obviously build those bridges
(30:19):
that I talked about a little bit earlier. And so
while I don't have anything specific to announce other than
go watch Survival that the tickets season two on Netflix,
I am really energized for whatever the future holds, which
will probably involve some running.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
From some of us.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
If your community has been named in a political ad
in the last six months, you better get your run
in sneakers on me.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
That's all I got to say.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Another thing that I'm really energized about is the fact
that for once, as opposed to when I was younger,
I'm able to make a living and make a little
bit of an impact using the tools that I know
the best about myself, about the LGBTQ plus community, about
(31:14):
being a black woman. These are the things that I'm very.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Comfortable with, and.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I'm grateful that there are people who like Michelle Buteaux
and Netflix who want to hear some of those stories.
I think it would be great if there were more
than one story. But getting the opportunity to tell my
tell a version of a story like mine in a
major show that's on Netflix, which is obviously a major
(31:45):
platform available in.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
One hundred and ninety countries, feels great.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
You know, And I hope I get to do more
of that in the future.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
And I want to be challenged, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I don't necessarily have one achievement in my career that's
like something people would necessarily resonate with. But I do remember,
really early on, my mom took me to a lecture.
I've told this story once or twice before. My mom
took me to a college lecture once. She and I
are close in age. And John Amos, who's an actor.
(32:20):
He played the father on Good Times and was also
one of the villains in Die Hard Too, If anybody's interested,
He was talking and lecturing the students and he asked
the acting students, you know, what do you like to do?
And one of the students was like, oh, I'm a
(32:41):
professional actor. And John Amos was like, well, if you're
not working professionally as an actor and making a living
off of it, then you're not a professional actor.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
You're an actor.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And I mean that sounds like a bit of a read.
But I was like eight years old or something at
the time and ever since then, my only goal that
I had had from that moment on as a result
of that conversation was to go and be a professional
entertainer in New York. And before you knew it, once
I got to New York, I was working seven days
(33:15):
a week entertaining.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
In the clubs. You know, I mean it is the clubs.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
There was no pension and you know, for a one
k but I was paying my bills and living in
one of the hardest cities to live in the world.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
And I was like, I made it. This is it.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
And that clicked in my brain and it never shut off.
So no matter what I do, I feel like I've
already made it. I feel great, I'm happy, and I
have people that I love around me, and I think
that's especially going into the next four years. That is
one of the things that I think that each of
(33:54):
us need to strive to do is to gain happiness
through methods are that you can control. Obviously, if you
hit the lottery, you're gonna be happy, maybe at least temporarily,
but you can't control that. But what we can control
are the things that are happening in our lives and
around us. And so finding happiness in any way, shape
(34:17):
or form through that is my advice. And the way
that I usually do that is focusing on what I'm
grateful for and that always helps me get into greater
perspective for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
So this has been you know, calculous with Peppermint.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I hope you have enjoyed listening to me guest hosting.
It's been an absolute pleasure. Make sure you tune into
the very next episode coming at you soon so that
you can see who else is going to be on
this microphone. I'm super grateful for everybody here at Rogue
(34:58):
Energy and to all of you listeners. For the those
of you that would care too. You feel free to
follow me on all my social media's It's Peppermint two
four seven everywhere. Make sure you also follow all things
Rogue Energy podcast and yeah, you know I have a
new TikTok, so you can follow me there. You can
follow me anywhere. Just don't follow me in real life
(35:18):
because I will let you know. Anyway, I'm Peppermint. Thanks
for listening, and we will see you next time.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Bye.
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