December 15, 2025 • 14 mins
After less than 6 hours the jury in the Brian Walshe trial came back with the unanimous decision to find him guilty as charged. Walshe appeared emotionless and had zero interaction with his defense team as the decision was read aloud.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, folks, it is Monday, December fifteenth. Guilty guilty as charged.
The verdict is in and Brian Walsh has been found
guilty of murdering his wife. With that, welcome to this
episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. Let me get your
reaction first. It's not what we predicted, but the jury
(00:22):
did have two options, first degree and second degree. They
came back this quickly, and they came back with a
harder charge.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
First degree murder murder in the first degree, which is premeditation,
which carries a life without parole sentence for Brian Walsh.
So he will be going to prison for the rest
of his life. Obviously, he will have a chance to
appeal and the judge still has to technically sentence him.
But that is what that charge, what that conviction carries
in the state of Massachusetts.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
And yes, I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm not totally surprised, but I'm a little surprised. I
really did think it would take them longer even maybe
to come up or to agree to the first degree
charged unanimously. The second degree, to me thought I thought
was absolutely a slam dunk. But first degree, I'm I'm
a little surprised that came back. I guess it would
(01:13):
have been about six hours they deliberated in total, and it.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Didn't seem like at least based on the verdict that
we've not seen, that there was a whole lot of
disagreement in the room and it was six hours. I
thought it was ended up being less than that. But
you say total ended up being six correct.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I think it was around four hours on Friday that
they deliberated, and then about two hours today, so I
mean under six hours, under six hours.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
This trial wrapped up pretty quickly, folks. We have been
watching this, of course, the past two weeks. Here we
are in December fifteenth, right, the first day of testimony
was December first, so two mondays ago. When the judge
was telling folks we might need to get ready for
a three to four plus week trial, even some concern
it might bump up into Christmas a little bit. They
(01:57):
flew through the prosecution at least case the defense put
up no witnesses at all, and all of a sudden,
here we are we get to a short trial in
short deliberations. I am I. We gave our predictions, if
you will, for what we thought the jury was gonna do. This,
This surprised me a little. Yes, how much did it
surprise you? This surprised me, but a bit. I think
(02:20):
when you add the time to you. Look, we've watched plenty,
but lawyers, folks who do this for a living, tell
you we have no idea what a jury's gonna do.
You try to predict the best you can and try
to go by history. You just you just don't. You
just don't know. I don't know. I thought there was
enough doubt, enough head scratching questions raised by the defense
(02:42):
that it would at least give them some pause.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yes, premeditation was I was. I was on the fence
with that, But who knows. There could have been a
very persuasive person in that jury room that convinced everyone,
or everyone could have actually walked in there with a
very similar like minded approach to what they thought his
level of responsibility was.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
But that's they go through.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
We just watched the judge go and ask every single
juror sits there and says, yes, that is my decision
that has to happen for their conviction to stand, and
it was a unanimous one. I was taken a little
bit by Brian Walsh's reaction or I should say lack thereof.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
He walked back in.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
We were all a little shocked around eleven thirty this
morning when we were told Eastern time that the jury,
or at least we believe the jury, had reached a verdict.
His mother, Diana, was there at the trial. He acknowledged her.
But when the verdict was read out, well, actually right beforehand,
I did notice him.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Did you see him The.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Only slight body language of stress. He cracked his neck
to the right, like you know when you're kind of
just moving your neck.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
It's a little stiff.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
And he opened his jaw like he was cracking his jaw.
That was the only slight body movement I saw where
you could tell that. Yes, he's a little tense right now.
Can you imagine I was tense waiting for the jury's verdict.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I mean it was just I mean, I can't imagine
being in that position. But he I didn't see the
net crack, the move He was as stoic and calm
as we have heard about him throughout this trial and
as we have seen him sitting in that room throughout
the trial. And there was not a reaction of any
kind when they came back and said guilty. I didn't
(04:24):
see him interact with his lawyers even once. And the
bailiff came in. They put the handcuffs back on and
escorted him out, and not a reaction of any kind
did I see.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It was like he was just told he had one
hundred dollars parking ticket. He had no reaction. Yes, that's
amazing to me that you and look, I know you
have to probably prepare yourself for worst case scenario, but
still to have zero reaction. And we did not see
him speak, not look at, not glance at his lawyers.
(04:56):
There was zero interaction between his legal team, not among
them Elves, not with Brian Walsh. It was absolute silence
and zero physical movement, interaction, eye contact.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Nothing. That was really shocking to me.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Don't know, I mean a lot of Look, we don't
obviously we don't know this guy at all, but we
were pretty we found it pretty remarkable some of his
behavior after he had chopped up his wife, his demeanor,
how he was able to carry himself in front of
other people, how he was able to go about being
(05:32):
at sometimes even personable and warm to people. He's out
shopping and doing. To be able to do that was
I found pretty incredible of a human being. To see
him today in court. If we'd have seen an emotional reaction,
we'd have been shocked. We're like, whoa, who was that guy?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I would have been like, there's a human being in there.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Okay, well, this is in line with what we have
seen and heard.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
You make a good point, it's on brand from everything
because one of the most chilling things I believe, well,
there were a couple really chilling things beyond just the
searches themselves, but to hear the audiotape of him talking
to detectives within days of his wife being missing, but
also we now know after now he's been convicted of
murdering and chopping up her body.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
How just relaxed.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
He didn't over explain, he didn't seem defensive, he didn't
seem nervous, he wasn't speaking too quickly. He seemed like
an affable guy next door who is looking for his
lost dog.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Like.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
He just didn't seem that upset or concerned or guilty
or defensive. So he is able to compartmentalize like a
mother effort is I guess the best way to put it.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
So, I mean, will we ever see anything out of him.
I don't know, we're running out of opportunities to do so.
But a reminder for folks who don't. I think everybody
at this point is kept up with his story. Rogues
about this woman that he said his wife he was
partying with one night with a friend. They go to
bed that night, he goes down to clean the kitchen.
He goes back up. She's dead. They say, sudden, sudden,
(07:04):
unexplained to death. He panics stars. All these internet searchers
trying to figure out how to chop up dispose of
a body. All those searchers were entered into evidence during
this trial, and he stuck by that story. What the
prosecution never was able to say how she.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Died exactly, never got a body.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
There is nobody, And this jury did not buy a
lot of the what ifs, and well it's possible, possible,
they didn't reach the reasonable doubt threshold. The defense and
all that stuff they came up with, which at times
we gave them credit for.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Oh, yes, the defense did the best job they possibly
could with a case that was difficult from the get go,
with those types of internet searches, with the video evidence
they have of him throwing bags away in dumpsters. The
evidence they have of him buying an essentially clean up
kit for murdering your wife, just with video evidence, receives
(08:00):
eats his DNA, Anna's DNA. I mean, all of that
was undeniable. His only chance was that no one could
prove how his wife died because no one had any
sort of forensic evidence. They didn't even have circumstantial evidence
about how she died. No one could tell the jury
how Anna Walsh died. And yet he was still convicted
(08:22):
of first degree murder. That is pretty remarkable.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's kind of you know what. The prosecution A big
part of their case was common sense, and it is
if you lay it out like that, like, come on,
what do you think happened? Yeah, maybe they didn't prove
some things, but they relied on common sense. And common
sense tells you that this man killed his wife.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
The way he acted, maybe not as much before, but
certainly during and after. Spoke to what made the most
sense as to how it went down and why it
went down. I'm curious you pointed out one of the
big moments for the prosecution in closing statements was making
that connection. You said, I believe it happened, was closing
(09:06):
arguments were already on Friday, right, I'm losing track of time.
But when she was able to say, finally to the jury,
all of those searches you saw. Never once did you
see a search for unexplained sudden death. How could my
wife die suddenly? How could a thirty five year old
woman who was fine one hour be dead the next?
(09:27):
Like there were no searches that would justify or bolster
or suggest in any way, shape or form. He found
his wife dead without any explanation.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You know, And maybe that was the brilliance. And maybe
they held on to that on purpose until the end
because they knew the defense wasn't going to be able
to come back and try to explain that one away.
But that was it. If somebody panics because somebody's dead,
the first thing you're going to do is not try
to get rid of the body. You're going to try
(09:58):
to resuscitate or find out what happened. You would even google,
like crazy, deciding to call the cops, like okay, maybe
was this, Maybe was this? Maybe this, and maybe they
won't arrest me if anything. When she said that, so
that was the most common sensical thing I heard, though,
I said okay.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Because you were you were team You were team Larry
Tipton the whole time, not that you were team Brian Walsh,
but you were just team Larry Tipton in terms of
how he handled the case, how he presented the defense.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
To the jury. It was brilliant.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So you were you were like, I get this guy.
This guy is doing an incredible job. And the prosecution, frankly,
we were wanting more. We were expecting more, we were
wishing they would connect the dots more. But yes, at
the very end, you were like, that was the first
time you said, oh wow, she just said something that
resonated and I can't unhear it. Panic Now, once you've
(10:52):
said that, now that makes the most sense, the most
common sense.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
The entire trial. And I want to give her credit
for that moment. And maybe that moment was important to
the jury. And again I wonder if she held on
to that until that moment. You cannot didn't give them
a chance to say, well, he didn't go google that
stuff because blah blah blah didn't give him a chance.
Yeah that's great, Well, folks, this now ropes. I have
(11:19):
a right carries. This is life without parole. But remember
he was also convicted or pled guilty to some other
charges before this case even started, So they still have
to wrap all of this up, and they're going to
wrap it up very soon. We'll explain by the judges
saying sentencing is happening almost immediately.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Stay here, Welcome back everyone.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
We are continuing to discuss this breaking news that just happened.
The verdict is in in the Brian wah trial. The
jury took less than six hours to find Brian Walsh
guilty of murder in the first degree. Zero emotion from
Brian Walsh, zero interaction with his attorneys. It all happened
very quickly, and so will sentencing. According to the judge,
(12:15):
and even the defense asked for Wednesday for the Puerto
reconvene and for his sentencing to take place. They want
some The judge was very very clear to say, if
they have to postpone until Thursday or Friday, she will
figure it out because she really wants to hear the
victim impact statements in this case.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You know what, for this for her friends, for her
family members. I mean, we heard from and about a
lot of people during this thing, and they were it
seems like they were all close, like they had shared friends,
and I can't imagine the words they might have for
him on Wednesday. So I'm definitely curious to see where
(12:57):
are the boys now. Their sons are with.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
The I don't know exactly where they are, but they're
little guys, and I can't imagine they would involve them
in a way in the court room, right, Oh, I can't.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I was just thinking about that. They would be too young.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You'd have to be probably eighteen or at least of
a certain age to want to be able to speak.
Because his youngest I mean his oldest I think, is
what eight or nine?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, death, that's what it was, right, eight.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Or six and eight, so probably eight. But I wonder
like it's just the trial up until now has been
about Brian Walsh, whether he was guilty or innocent, whether
he should be sent away for the rest of his
life or face some sort of punishment in between. But
now on Wednesday, it really does become about Anna Walsh
for a while, and I think that's so important for
(13:47):
the people who are grieving her still and will for
the rest of their lives to have that moment in court,
to be able to address her killer and say what
he took from them, and just from what we've seen,
I'm sure he won't show any bit of emotion opportunity
right to speak. Don't think you can. And I just
you know, I wonder if we will hear from him.
(14:08):
I wonder.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I doubt it too.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I doubt it. But we talk about this being in
this is a part of closure, but they have never
they'd have nowhere to go visit to late Flowers. They
don't know how she met her end. Actually, they don't
know what he did to her, and that's something he
could possibly go to his grave and we may never know.
So Wednesday there's going to be another big day in
court for this trial. We will keep a close close
(14:32):
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spending time with us. For now, I'm T. J. Holmes
on behalf of Amy Robot. We'll talk to you Elson
Hey, folks, it is Monday, December fifteenth. Guilty guilty as charged.
The verdict is in and Brian Walsh has been found
guilty of murdering his wife. With that, welcome to this
episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. Let me get your
reaction first. It's not what we predicted, but the jury
(00:22):
did have two options, first degree and second degree. They
came back this quickly, and they came back with a
harder charge.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
First degree murder murder in the first degree, which is premeditation,
which carries a life without parole sentence for Brian Walsh.
So he will be going to prison for the rest
of his life. Obviously, he will have a chance to
appeal and the judge still has to technically sentence him.
But that is what that charge, what that conviction carries
in the state of Massachusetts.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
And yes, I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm not totally surprised, but I'm a little surprised. I
really did think it would take them longer even maybe
to come up or to agree to the first degree
charged unanimously. The second degree, to me thought I thought
was absolutely a slam dunk. But first degree, I'm I'm
a little surprised that came back. I guess it would
(01:13):
have been about six hours they deliberated in total, and it.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Didn't seem like at least based on the verdict that
we've not seen, that there was a whole lot of
disagreement in the room and it was six hours. I
thought it was ended up being less than that. But
you say total ended up being six correct.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I think it was around four hours on Friday that
they deliberated, and then about two hours today, so I
mean under six hours, under six hours.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
This trial wrapped up pretty quickly, folks. We have been
watching this, of course, the past two weeks. Here we
are in December fifteenth, right, the first day of testimony
was December first, so two mondays ago. When the judge
was telling folks we might need to get ready for
a three to four plus week trial, even some concern
it might bump up into Christmas a little bit. They
(01:57):
flew through the prosecution at least case the defense put
up no witnesses at all, and all of a sudden,
here we are we get to a short trial in
short deliberations. I am I. We gave our predictions, if
you will, for what we thought the jury was gonna do. This,
This surprised me a little. Yes, how much did it
surprise you? This surprised me, but a bit. I think
(02:20):
when you add the time to you. Look, we've watched plenty,
but lawyers, folks who do this for a living, tell
you we have no idea what a jury's gonna do.
You try to predict the best you can and try
to go by history. You just you just don't. You
just don't know. I don't know. I thought there was
enough doubt, enough head scratching questions raised by the defense
(02:42):
that it would at least give them some pause.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yes, premeditation was I was. I was on the fence
with that, But who knows. There could have been a
very persuasive person in that jury room that convinced everyone,
or everyone could have actually walked in there with a
very similar like minded approach to what they thought his
level of responsibility was.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
But that's they go through.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
We just watched the judge go and ask every single
juror sits there and says, yes, that is my decision
that has to happen for their conviction to stand, and
it was a unanimous one. I was taken a little
bit by Brian Walsh's reaction or I should say lack thereof.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
He walked back in.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
We were all a little shocked around eleven thirty this
morning when we were told Eastern time that the jury,
or at least we believe the jury, had reached a verdict.
His mother, Diana, was there at the trial. He acknowledged her.
But when the verdict was read out, well, actually right beforehand,
I did notice him.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Did you see him The.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Only slight body language of stress. He cracked his neck
to the right, like you know when you're kind of
just moving your neck.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
It's a little stiff.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
And he opened his jaw like he was cracking his jaw.
That was the only slight body movement I saw where
you could tell that. Yes, he's a little tense right now.
Can you imagine I was tense waiting for the jury's verdict.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I mean it was just I mean, I can't imagine
being in that position. But he I didn't see the
net crack, the move He was as stoic and calm
as we have heard about him throughout this trial and
as we have seen him sitting in that room throughout
the trial. And there was not a reaction of any
kind when they came back and said guilty. I didn't
(04:24):
see him interact with his lawyers even once. And the
bailiff came in. They put the handcuffs back on and
escorted him out, and not a reaction of any kind
did I see.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It was like he was just told he had one
hundred dollars parking ticket. He had no reaction. Yes, that's
amazing to me that you and look, I know you
have to probably prepare yourself for worst case scenario, but
still to have zero reaction. And we did not see
him speak, not look at, not glance at his lawyers.
(04:56):
There was zero interaction between his legal team, not among
them Elves, not with Brian Walsh. It was absolute silence
and zero physical movement, interaction, eye contact.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Nothing. That was really shocking to me.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Don't know, I mean a lot of Look, we don't
obviously we don't know this guy at all, but we
were pretty we found it pretty remarkable some of his
behavior after he had chopped up his wife, his demeanor,
how he was able to carry himself in front of
other people, how he was able to go about being
(05:32):
at sometimes even personable and warm to people. He's out
shopping and doing. To be able to do that was
I found pretty incredible of a human being. To see
him today in court. If we'd have seen an emotional reaction,
we'd have been shocked. We're like, whoa, who was that guy?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I would have been like, there's a human being in there.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Okay, well, this is in line with what we have
seen and heard.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
You make a good point, it's on brand from everything
because one of the most chilling things I believe, well,
there were a couple really chilling things beyond just the
searches themselves, but to hear the audiotape of him talking
to detectives within days of his wife being missing, but
also we now know after now he's been convicted of
murdering and chopping up her body.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
How just relaxed.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
He didn't over explain, he didn't seem defensive, he didn't
seem nervous, he wasn't speaking too quickly. He seemed like
an affable guy next door who is looking for his
lost dog.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Like.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
He just didn't seem that upset or concerned or guilty
or defensive. So he is able to compartmentalize like a
mother effort is I guess the best way to put it.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
So, I mean, will we ever see anything out of him.
I don't know, we're running out of opportunities to do so.
But a reminder for folks who don't. I think everybody
at this point is kept up with his story. Rogues
about this woman that he said his wife he was
partying with one night with a friend. They go to
bed that night, he goes down to clean the kitchen.
He goes back up. She's dead. They say, sudden, sudden,
(07:04):
unexplained to death. He panics stars. All these internet searchers
trying to figure out how to chop up dispose of
a body. All those searchers were entered into evidence during
this trial, and he stuck by that story. What the
prosecution never was able to say how she.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Died exactly, never got a body.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
There is nobody, And this jury did not buy a
lot of the what ifs, and well it's possible, possible,
they didn't reach the reasonable doubt threshold. The defense and
all that stuff they came up with, which at times
we gave them credit for.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Oh, yes, the defense did the best job they possibly
could with a case that was difficult from the get go,
with those types of internet searches, with the video evidence
they have of him throwing bags away in dumpsters. The
evidence they have of him buying an essentially clean up
kit for murdering your wife, just with video evidence, receives
(08:00):
eats his DNA, Anna's DNA. I mean, all of that
was undeniable. His only chance was that no one could
prove how his wife died because no one had any
sort of forensic evidence. They didn't even have circumstantial evidence
about how she died. No one could tell the jury
how Anna Walsh died. And yet he was still convicted
(08:22):
of first degree murder. That is pretty remarkable.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's kind of you know what. The prosecution A big
part of their case was common sense, and it is
if you lay it out like that, like, come on,
what do you think happened? Yeah, maybe they didn't prove
some things, but they relied on common sense. And common
sense tells you that this man killed his wife.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
The way he acted, maybe not as much before, but
certainly during and after. Spoke to what made the most
sense as to how it went down and why it
went down. I'm curious you pointed out one of the
big moments for the prosecution in closing statements was making
that connection. You said, I believe it happened, was closing
(09:06):
arguments were already on Friday, right, I'm losing track of time.
But when she was able to say, finally to the jury,
all of those searches you saw. Never once did you
see a search for unexplained sudden death. How could my
wife die suddenly? How could a thirty five year old
woman who was fine one hour be dead the next?
(09:27):
Like there were no searches that would justify or bolster
or suggest in any way, shape or form. He found
his wife dead without any explanation.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You know, And maybe that was the brilliance. And maybe
they held on to that on purpose until the end
because they knew the defense wasn't going to be able
to come back and try to explain that one away.
But that was it. If somebody panics because somebody's dead,
the first thing you're going to do is not try
to get rid of the body. You're going to try
(09:58):
to resuscitate or find out what happened. You would even google,
like crazy, deciding to call the cops, like okay, maybe
was this, Maybe was this? Maybe this, and maybe they
won't arrest me if anything. When she said that, so
that was the most common sensical thing I heard, though,
I said okay.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Because you were you were team You were team Larry
Tipton the whole time, not that you were team Brian Walsh,
but you were just team Larry Tipton in terms of
how he handled the case, how he presented the defense.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
To the jury. It was brilliant.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So you were you were like, I get this guy.
This guy is doing an incredible job. And the prosecution, frankly,
we were wanting more. We were expecting more, we were
wishing they would connect the dots more. But yes, at
the very end, you were like, that was the first
time you said, oh wow, she just said something that
resonated and I can't unhear it. Panic Now, once you've
(10:52):
said that, now that makes the most sense, the most
common sense.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
The entire trial. And I want to give her credit
for that moment. And maybe that moment was important to
the jury. And again I wonder if she held on
to that until that moment. You cannot didn't give them
a chance to say, well, he didn't go google that
stuff because blah blah blah didn't give him a chance.
Yeah that's great, Well, folks, this now ropes. I have
(11:19):
a right carries. This is life without parole. But remember
he was also convicted or pled guilty to some other
charges before this case even started, So they still have
to wrap all of this up, and they're going to
wrap it up very soon. We'll explain by the judges
saying sentencing is happening almost immediately.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Stay here, Welcome back everyone.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
We are continuing to discuss this breaking news that just happened.
The verdict is in in the Brian wah trial. The
jury took less than six hours to find Brian Walsh
guilty of murder in the first degree. Zero emotion from
Brian Walsh, zero interaction with his attorneys. It all happened
very quickly, and so will sentencing. According to the judge,
(12:15):
and even the defense asked for Wednesday for the Puerto
reconvene and for his sentencing to take place. They want
some The judge was very very clear to say, if
they have to postpone until Thursday or Friday, she will
figure it out because she really wants to hear the
victim impact statements in this case.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You know what, for this for her friends, for her
family members. I mean, we heard from and about a
lot of people during this thing, and they were it
seems like they were all close, like they had shared friends,
and I can't imagine the words they might have for
him on Wednesday. So I'm definitely curious to see where
(12:57):
are the boys now. Their sons are with.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
The I don't know exactly where they are, but they're
little guys, and I can't imagine they would involve them
in a way in the court room, right, Oh, I can't.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I was just thinking about that. They would be too young.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You'd have to be probably eighteen or at least of
a certain age to want to be able to speak.
Because his youngest I mean his oldest I think, is
what eight or nine?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, death, that's what it was, right, eight.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Or six and eight, so probably eight. But I wonder
like it's just the trial up until now has been
about Brian Walsh, whether he was guilty or innocent, whether
he should be sent away for the rest of his
life or face some sort of punishment in between. But
now on Wednesday, it really does become about Anna Walsh
for a while, and I think that's so important for
(13:47):
the people who are grieving her still and will for
the rest of their lives to have that moment in court,
to be able to address her killer and say what
he took from them, and just from what we've seen,
I'm sure he won't show any bit of emotion opportunity
right to speak. Don't think you can. And I just
you know, I wonder if we will hear from him.
(14:08):
I wonder.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I doubt it too.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I doubt it. But we talk about this being in
this is a part of closure, but they have never
they'd have nowhere to go visit to late Flowers. They
don't know how she met her end. Actually, they don't
know what he did to her, and that's something he
could possibly go to his grave and we may never know.
So Wednesday there's going to be another big day in
court for this trial. We will keep a close close
(14:32):
eye on it again, folks. Top right corner of that
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There have been quite a few to enough for fast
moving and breaking stories lately, but we always appreciate you
spending time with us. For now, I'm T. J. Holmes
on behalf of Amy Robot. We'll talk to you Elson
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