May 31, 2025 • 21 mins
Amy and T.J. discuss the stories that kept them talking this week including the Bitcoin hostage horror story in Manhattan, the French President’s face shove caught on camera, the Devil on the Loose in the Ozarks and Sydney Sweeney’s bath water for sale.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio podcast. Hey
there are folks, a hostage situation in Soho, a French
face shove, a devil is on the loves of the Ozarks,
and Sidney Sweeney is selling us sweet bathwater for eight dollars.
Those were just some of the stories that kept us
(00:22):
talking after our morning run this week. Hey there, folks,
welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ on this
May thirty first, on this Saturday Robe. Some of these stories,
I don't want to say we keep arguing about, but
we go at it about some of this stuff. We're
not on the same page.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We don't always agree with how we think things should
go or how people reacted. So it's fun to have
a conversation after the fact, and maybe y'all can get
into your own discussions about what you think about some
of the big stories of the week. And Monday Woo.
It started out with a bang, with an unthinkable story
that happened right here in Soho in Manhattan. And do most.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Folks around the country know where Soho is in? You know,
maybe not so common for us, but it's yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That's a good point. It's it's lower Manhattan it's south
of Houston Street, thus the name Soho. So it's a
very bougie part of the city. There's a lot of shopping,
a lot of cute restaurants, a lot of tourists. When
you like to go to Manhattan and try to see
if you can spot a celebrity, a lot of folks
go to Soho because that's where a lot of that's
(01:31):
wet a listers and you know, of course us like,
because we're right, like to have a drink or have
a bite, an overpriced bite somewhere. So, yes, this is
a very wealthy and swanky part of the city. It's
not a place where you would ever imagine the story
that's being told could happen in a eight bedroom luxury
(01:55):
townhouse in Soho on Prince Spring.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
But is that more so the part of the story
all right too. Allegedly, two guys take another guy hostage
because they want his bitcoin password and they essentially want
to rob him. Yes, so they hold him hostage for
weeks and the according to police, torture this guy put
him through all kinds of hell. He finally gets away,
runs down the street, he finds a traffic cop and
here we are. But in this story. Would this be
(02:20):
as big of a deal if it wasn't in Soho
in New.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
York, it would still be a big deal. But it's
a bigger deal when you think about, yes, who did
it and where they were doing it. I have to
tell you I saw the pictures. I lived on that
street about ten years ago. I lived about three doors down,
and I did not have a swinky eight bedroom townhouse.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
The five bedroom places it was nice.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I just want to point that out. This was not
the same. But I lived on that same street.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
But your rooftop deck was amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
However, I did not have a rooftop.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
The grill I couldn't believe. I don't know how you
know that gorilla up there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I had a massive roach infestation in that apartment, to
be honest, and let me be.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Clear here, folks, I'm just joking. She didn't have all.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But no, it actually shocked me even more because I thought,
my god, I know that door, I know that townhouse,
and to think what police say happened inside of it,
it is I think it would always be a story
when you get these details because this alleged victim who
apparently now they're saying, now these other two men was
invited to the home. They were all crypto investors, they
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all had lots of money. He was twenty eight years old,
came off the plane from Italy and he says, these
two men who have now been arrested, who are currently
being held without bail, beat him, drugged him, used electric shock,
hanged him off a five story balcony, and he believed
were actually going to ultimately kill him. And so he
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managed to escape because he finally, after seventeen days, told
these two men, okay, okay, I'll give you my bitcoin password.
I'll let you have access to my bitcoin fortune. And
when he told them that, they went down to go
get a computer, and at that point, somehow he was
able to escape. He ran barefoot and bloodied down Prince
(04:03):
Street until he found a traffic cop and asked for help.
That's crazy to think that that all happened.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I mean, desperate times. What I'm saying is, there's something
about I always say this, What am I missing about
this story? There's got to be something I am missing
because if someone is that, it's not just a regular theft.
I don't know how much money possibly he had in bitcoin,
that it was worth millions. Well, also, I don't know
how desperate you have to be to do this. How
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do you think you're going to get away from away
with holding a hostage in that neighborhood for that many weeks?
How do you think you're going to get away with that?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, And the other thing that was so interesting to
me is that the judge denied bail for both of
these men who have been accused of all of these
heinous crimes and took away their passports because he said specifically,
they have the money and the means to escape and
not be found. They have private planes. These are men
who have in credible means and the ability to to
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just disappear because of all the money they have. So
why were they so desperate to get more money? We
don't know those details, they have not been provided, but
we're talking. When police went into this town house, they
say they found multiple polaroid pictures of the victim with
a gun to his head smoking a crack pipe because
they put it in his mouth. They found torture devices
(05:25):
including a saw, chicken wire, night vision goggles, a gun,
and ammunition. Like this sounded like a horror movie, like
police break in silence of the lambs find this, you know,
serial killer with all of his That's what it sounded
like to me.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
This sounds like desperation to me. I want to hear
more about what in the world was going on. This
is it's just all too bizarre. I'm throwing soho.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And there's another quick twist because they're trying to tie
Eric Adams and his police detective to this too, because
apparently two off duty police officers or who work for
Mayor Adams were the two men who actually drove this
victim from the airport to the suspect's townhouse, and so
they're trying to figure out they don't think that they
knew what was going to happen, but they're still having
(06:10):
an internal investigation to see what they knew and if
they were even supposed to be moonlighting basically as private
security for these two crypto investors. So there are many
legs to this story.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
All right. That kept folks talking. Another one that kept
folks talking, not just us, was that French face shove
that everybody saw. What do you do with this? The
French president is getting off a plane on a trip
to Asia and old doors open, you know, that traditional
walk down those long steps. After a president arrived somewhere, well,
the door opens, the camera see him standing there, and
(06:43):
then you see two hands come and shove him. One
shoves him pretty hard in the face. We find out, yes,
it is his wife and Brigitte. And now this set
off in international issue. They tried to explain it robes
of course, as hey, we were just horse playing around,
just bickering a little bit. They played it off like
it was just fun and games. But this set everybody
off scrutinizing their relationship. What else can they say besides
(07:07):
we were just playing around, which could be true.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I don't buy that for one second. I don't think
they were playing around. She looked visibly upset, and when
he went to reach for her when they were going
down the steps, this gentleman often do, or a husband
would do for his wife, she clearly pulls away and
doesn't want him touching her. So they were clearly upset
with one another. There were clearly having an argument. And look,
I get mccrone's situation or dilemma, because if he said
(07:31):
what really happened, then what does that say about his wife?
I mean, imagine if it were reversed, imagine if we
saw Macrone shoving Brigitte in the face, we would all
be having a very different conversation.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You have to ask, is it ever acceptable for a
wife to do what we saw her do?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
No? I don't think there can be a double standard
when it comes to this. I don't think that anyone
has the right or should be allowed to physically push
someone or hit someone if if they're upset. That is unacceptable,
especially for I don't know, people of a certain age.
You'd think they'd know better. This is not acceptable behavior.
So how does he explain what his wife did other
(08:09):
than to literally throw her under the bus and say, yeah,
she shoved me, she was pissed off at me, we
were having a fight.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Okay, Well that's what I mean if they were on
Okay again, we're taking them at their word that this
is what happened. But where this is what always drives
us crazy ropes is don't treat me like I'm stupid.
I know what I just saw.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Okay, So don't say you were joking around and you
were you know, being playful and you were horsing around.
That's just simply not true anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Anything if you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Exactly just say it's a private matter, and that's how
I think.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Look, I'm sure hindsight's twenty twenty, and maybe he wishes
he would have done this, but it's just far better
to not tell a lie. I mean, that's really what
it was. He wasn't telling the truth.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I want to leave some room for the possibility of yes,
we saw it wrong, that we don't know that our
our eyes are lying to us. What I want to
leave some room for. But that was not a playful shove, now,
it was this is not to be in We saw
what we saw. She shoved him. You could go as
far as saying violently yes to his face.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Agreed, He jerked back fully.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
What else?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And he looked shocked by it. Oh, he had a
look of disbelief on his face almost. And then when
he turned and saw members of the press waiting for
them with cameras rolling, he knew he was probably very
sure at that point that whoopsie, that all just got
caught on video. And yes, it's been paused, it's been
zoomed in on, it's been slow mode. And really what
you see is unmistakable. You see a wife who is
(09:44):
mad at her husband, who lost control and shoved him
in the face. And it really isn't anything less.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Than that, or maybe we're just seeing get wrong. I
will take them at their words, but they say, over
in France, did you see all that? Over in France
is not as big of a deal it is other places,
because the French have a long history at least the
press does leaving people alone public figures in their private manners,
no matter how scandalous. Sometimes it might be well.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And just to point out for those who don't know,
but I'm sure it would be hard. You'd have to
be living under a rock perhaps not to know that. Okay,
their love story in our country I don't think would
have ever flown. But this Macrone was the student of
his now wife, Brigitte. He was fifteen when she was
thirty nine, She was married with children, She was his
(10:29):
theater teacher, and after a certain amount of time that
passed by, they then got together. And there is a
twenty five year age gap. But it began, or at
least that maybe there was this spark of romance began
when he was fifteen and she was thirty nine.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I'd have to say it like that. Well, I am
not gonna poo anybody's unorthodox love story. Okay, you all
do your thing, just don't be shoving each other in
the head. I was about to say on camera, but
you just shouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
You shouldn't do it in private in any way.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Another story, there's a devil on the loose in the Ozarks.
I didn't see this show, right, Devil.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
In the Devil in the Ozarks. It's HBO Max. You
can see it on Is it Max or HBO Max? Now?
Is it HBO Max?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Well, it's still Max until further Okay, so it's Max.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
So it's a Max documentary. You can watch it on
Hulu or Max. And I actually want to watch it
now after hearing a little bit more about this case.
But they put this on just because his story of
how he was convicted was so fascinating. But now he's
on the run, you.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Know what, that's key to explain. I didn't say that, right.
The show has been out there already years about this guy,
because he was apparently a bad enough dude with an
interesting enough story that they decided to do a documentary
on him.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, he was a police officer and briefly a police chief.
If he was actually removed from that position because he
was having so many run ins with city employees with citizens.
He was just as many people in the town say
he was evil and they knew it, and so he
was forced to step down. But nine months after he
was pushed out as police chief, he was still a
(12:16):
police officer. He was convicted of shooting a city employee,
a water employee, the city's water employee, in the head.
And then when he gets arrested for that, they run
his DNA through the system and find out bing it's
a match for a twenty year old rape of a
school teacher in Rogers, and you're very familiar with Rogers, Arkansas.
(12:38):
That was, yeah, an unsolved crime, no one knew, but
it was a violent rape. And so he was then
convicted of that as well. So a rapist and a murderer.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
And a guy who's the subject of a documentary because
of his crimes is on the.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Loose, on the loose, and there is real fear that
perhaps he could be seeking vengeance or revenge because he's
just Everyone who knew him said he's that kind of guy.
But his name is Grant Harden, and how he escaped
from prison is also remarkable. This could be a whole
other documentary. He impersonated a corrections officer, but they don't
know how he did it because he had a uniform on.
(13:18):
It wasn't a uniform that is issues for that prison.
But somehow he made one, found one, created one. They
don't know. And he walked out in broad daylight on
Sunday afternoon and a prison guard let him go because
he looked efficially.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
That's incredible to me that prison. Did you see an update?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I haven't seen whether or not he has been let
go or not, my goodness, but you know the area,
so that's part of what they're talking about. This search
is incredibly complicated because the Ozarks, if you haven't been
right there in northeast Arkansas is northwest Arkansas. What is
that terrain like?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's just mountainous. It's beautiful, but it's literally everybody's you've
heard of the Ozarks yet that's just a mountainous region.
There is all kinds of wildlife out there. The weather
can be horrific depending on the time of year. You
got lakes around, you have all it is. It's God's country.
You could argue this is where you would that's what
you would describe it as God's country. And if he
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is just run around out there in the mountains, in
the woods and he knows the area, they say, guys
from Arkansas, Ah, this might take a while. I was
just blown away that how in the world of all things,
you have a literally a TV star if you will,
in your jail and you let him walk out. Even
the prison guard when you looked at his.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Face, Yeah, how did you not recognize him?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
That he is the devil?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
He is probably the most famous inmate, I would argue.
I would guess who else has their own Max series
right about their crime? How was he able to not
be recognized even if he had a prison uniform on
you? You still think that you know the guy?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
That's bold And again part of the issue they said
he does have Yes, he has police training. He knows
how to help himself, he knows how to come across
like a police officer. So yeah, he is on the run.
That was just one of those stories when you told
me about it. Initially, somebody escaped in Arkansas, blah blah, like,
wait a minute, how did this guy get away? So
that's a somebody's Well, there'll be an update next here.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
There needs to be consequences, how that happened, and why
that happens. I think we should lighten it up. Yeah,
we need to end this with the story that we're
still talking about, and that is Sidney Sweeney. She's one
of the biggest hottest stars around. Now she is putting
(15:39):
up her bathwater for sale.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
That's the headline that is actually accurate. Sidney Sweeney is
selling her actual bathwater. I saw the headline, I said,
let me look into this more, and I was like, oh, wow,
that's right. Actually is that's actually true. I love this story.
I love what they're doing. It's a partnership doctor. I
wasn't familiar Doctor's Watch.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Doctor Squatch. I've never heard of that soap. But now hey,
smart marketings. But they're talking about it now.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Some of you, all of them are may be already familiar.
She did a collaboration with them in which she was
in a tub in a bubble bath that went viral.
So now they've come back robes and she put out
and say, hey, people kept asking me about my bath water,
so we saved it. And they're not just selling it
for you to smell, drink or put on you. I
(16:26):
should say that they're infusing it.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yes, they're infusing it with an exfoliating soap that they say, yes,
is actually has Sydney's bathwater inside of it. And yeah,
it's been described as a very real and very limited
edition of exfoliating soap made with sand pine bark extract
and a touch of Sydney's real bathwater. Would you buy the.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Soap under no circumstance? Not just out of curiosity because
I'm just not a thing. But I only see this
as brilliant marketing. I think it's wonderful. They could literally
take one drop and put it in that mixture, and
technically it's mixed with her bath soap, So somebody's gonna
(17:14):
go out and actually think they are getting If someone
goes out and buys a bar of soap and says,
I can't wait to get in the shower with this
bar of soap because then I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Rub Sydney's Sweeney's DNA all over me. Wait, will that
have her DNA in it? And could that have other
implications it's being washed off?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
You know, could if there's even any bathwater in there
at all?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
How do they prove that her bathwater's in there?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You fill a tub with water, say hey, Sidney, come
stick two hands in it. It's her bath water. You
could technically get away with it that that's not the point.
It's just they're playing on And yes, this young woman.
Every time I go into Saphora, which is a lot
with a twelve year old, Sidney Sweeney's there.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
She's everywhere in every movie, She's on every bill board.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
White Lotus is the only thing I have seen her in.
I don't have any relationship with Sidney Sweeney, but I
love this. I love that she's doing it. I love
that she's embracing it. Some people want to It's going
to be some haters out there and saying this is
too far, it's just too much. This is silly, and
you're selling sex and you're selling fantasy and all.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's okay, it's fine. With all the other things going
on in the world and a lot of what we
just talked about in this podcast, we kind of need stories.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Like this, right, I don't mind this one.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Shouldn't take ourselves so seriously.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Is it too much eight bucks for I think eight bucks.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I think that actually is a decent price point for
what they're selling. And I loved how they described this
or who said this a perfect combination of the two
best places on the planet, the outdoors and Sydney's. Sweeney's
back up even that she laughed was I was.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
A little annoyed at that one. Really, at the end
of the day, that's that's freaking clever because it was
a little that went a little too far from me.
The best place on earth is to be in the
tub with the naked girl. That one went a little
too far puts still sex cells. It's brilliant and it's edgy,
it's a little bit and it has everybody talking. I
don't mind this one at all.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
It's good, clean fun five thousand bars. But I'm bumped.
Oh god, see you even miss my bad.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Pun well because I think it's good, nasty fun, because
the nastiest place in my home on a daily basis
will be the tub I just got out of. Everybody said,
why I want to sit own?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Do you want to know something? I I hardly ever
take a bath, but when I do, I shower first
for that exact reason. Does that Does anyone else do that?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
To your point, I always shower before I get into
a body of water of some kind. If I get
into a tub, if I get into a pool, if
I get it to the hot tub, yeah, oh god,
oh my goodness, and then.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I shower afterwards. Of course, it's not about getting clean.
It's about feeling warm, sudsy water around you. Perhaps it
is for me. That is not about getting clean, Because
anyone who's had a kid or had to, you know,
give someone a bath. You see the remnants around the tub,
and it's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I know, Sydney Sweeney's gorgeous, but she takes nasty baths
like the rest of us. Okay, she is getting funk
off that body of hers, and lord knows all the
other products. She might have a lot more coming off
her body than I do.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So that's true, all the lotions we use stuff, I
get it, I get it. Yeah. So now this has
turned from good clean fun tech net. Wow, we just
spiraled on that one.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Bad How many bads am I taking with you? I
can remember one one.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
We have taken one one together.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And I wanted to get out of that one. No,
I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Because we both showered first,
I think, so this is now gone too far. We
will not be selling our bath water folks.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
All right, I feel like we should wrap it up. Hey,
I hope you all had a little laugh and a
little bit to talk about. We appreciate you as always
running with us on the weekend. Have a wonderful day, everybody.
Ye
Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio podcast. Hey
there are folks, a hostage situation in Soho, a French
face shove, a devil is on the loves of the Ozarks,
and Sidney Sweeney is selling us sweet bathwater for eight dollars.
Those were just some of the stories that kept us
(00:22):
talking after our morning run this week. Hey there, folks,
welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ on this
May thirty first, on this Saturday Robe. Some of these stories,
I don't want to say we keep arguing about, but
we go at it about some of this stuff. We're
not on the same page.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We don't always agree with how we think things should
go or how people reacted. So it's fun to have
a conversation after the fact, and maybe y'all can get
into your own discussions about what you think about some
of the big stories of the week. And Monday Woo.
It started out with a bang, with an unthinkable story
that happened right here in Soho in Manhattan. And do most.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Folks around the country know where Soho is in? You know,
maybe not so common for us, but it's yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
That's a good point. It's it's lower Manhattan it's south
of Houston Street, thus the name Soho. So it's a
very bougie part of the city. There's a lot of shopping,
a lot of cute restaurants, a lot of tourists. When
you like to go to Manhattan and try to see
if you can spot a celebrity, a lot of folks
go to Soho because that's where a lot of that's
(01:31):
wet a listers and you know, of course us like,
because we're right, like to have a drink or have
a bite, an overpriced bite somewhere. So, yes, this is
a very wealthy and swanky part of the city. It's
not a place where you would ever imagine the story
that's being told could happen in a eight bedroom luxury
(01:55):
townhouse in Soho on Prince Spring.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
But is that more so the part of the story
all right too. Allegedly, two guys take another guy hostage
because they want his bitcoin password and they essentially want
to rob him. Yes, so they hold him hostage for
weeks and the according to police, torture this guy put
him through all kinds of hell. He finally gets away,
runs down the street, he finds a traffic cop and
here we are. But in this story. Would this be
(02:20):
as big of a deal if it wasn't in Soho
in New.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
York, it would still be a big deal. But it's
a bigger deal when you think about, yes, who did
it and where they were doing it. I have to
tell you I saw the pictures. I lived on that
street about ten years ago. I lived about three doors down,
and I did not have a swinky eight bedroom townhouse.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
The five bedroom places it was nice.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I just want to point that out. This was not
the same. But I lived on that same street.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
But your rooftop deck was amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
However, I did not have a rooftop.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
The grill I couldn't believe. I don't know how you
know that gorilla up there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I had a massive roach infestation in that apartment, to
be honest, and let me be.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Clear here, folks, I'm just joking. She didn't have all.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
But no, it actually shocked me even more because I thought,
my god, I know that door, I know that townhouse,
and to think what police say happened inside of it,
it is I think it would always be a story
when you get these details because this alleged victim who
apparently now they're saying, now these other two men was
invited to the home. They were all crypto investors, they
(03:20):
all had lots of money. He was twenty eight years old,
came off the plane from Italy and he says, these
two men who have now been arrested, who are currently
being held without bail, beat him, drugged him, used electric shock,
hanged him off a five story balcony, and he believed
were actually going to ultimately kill him. And so he
(03:43):
managed to escape because he finally, after seventeen days, told
these two men, okay, okay, I'll give you my bitcoin password.
I'll let you have access to my bitcoin fortune. And
when he told them that, they went down to go
get a computer, and at that point, somehow he was
able to escape. He ran barefoot and bloodied down Prince
(04:03):
Street until he found a traffic cop and asked for help.
That's crazy to think that that all happened.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I mean, desperate times. What I'm saying is, there's something
about I always say this, What am I missing about
this story? There's got to be something I am missing
because if someone is that, it's not just a regular theft.
I don't know how much money possibly he had in bitcoin,
that it was worth millions. Well, also, I don't know
how desperate you have to be to do this. How
(04:32):
do you think you're going to get away from away
with holding a hostage in that neighborhood for that many weeks?
How do you think you're going to get away with that?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, And the other thing that was so interesting to
me is that the judge denied bail for both of
these men who have been accused of all of these
heinous crimes and took away their passports because he said specifically,
they have the money and the means to escape and
not be found. They have private planes. These are men
who have in credible means and the ability to to
(05:04):
just disappear because of all the money they have. So
why were they so desperate to get more money? We
don't know those details, they have not been provided, but
we're talking. When police went into this town house, they
say they found multiple polaroid pictures of the victim with
a gun to his head smoking a crack pipe because
they put it in his mouth. They found torture devices
(05:25):
including a saw, chicken wire, night vision goggles, a gun,
and ammunition. Like this sounded like a horror movie, like
police break in silence of the lambs find this, you know,
serial killer with all of his That's what it sounded
like to me.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
This sounds like desperation to me. I want to hear
more about what in the world was going on. This
is it's just all too bizarre. I'm throwing soho.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And there's another quick twist because they're trying to tie
Eric Adams and his police detective to this too, because
apparently two off duty police officers or who work for
Mayor Adams were the two men who actually drove this
victim from the airport to the suspect's townhouse, and so
they're trying to figure out they don't think that they
knew what was going to happen, but they're still having
(06:10):
an internal investigation to see what they knew and if
they were even supposed to be moonlighting basically as private
security for these two crypto investors. So there are many
legs to this story.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
All right. That kept folks talking. Another one that kept
folks talking, not just us, was that French face shove
that everybody saw. What do you do with this? The
French president is getting off a plane on a trip
to Asia and old doors open, you know, that traditional
walk down those long steps. After a president arrived somewhere, well,
the door opens, the camera see him standing there, and
(06:43):
then you see two hands come and shove him. One
shoves him pretty hard in the face. We find out, yes,
it is his wife and Brigitte. And now this set
off in international issue. They tried to explain it robes
of course, as hey, we were just horse playing around,
just bickering a little bit. They played it off like
it was just fun and games. But this set everybody
off scrutinizing their relationship. What else can they say besides
(07:07):
we were just playing around, which could be true.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I don't buy that for one second. I don't think
they were playing around. She looked visibly upset, and when
he went to reach for her when they were going
down the steps, this gentleman often do, or a husband
would do for his wife, she clearly pulls away and
doesn't want him touching her. So they were clearly upset
with one another. There were clearly having an argument. And look,
I get mccrone's situation or dilemma, because if he said
(07:31):
what really happened, then what does that say about his wife?
I mean, imagine if it were reversed, imagine if we
saw Macrone shoving Brigitte in the face, we would all
be having a very different conversation.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You have to ask, is it ever acceptable for a
wife to do what we saw her do?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
No? I don't think there can be a double standard
when it comes to this. I don't think that anyone
has the right or should be allowed to physically push
someone or hit someone if if they're upset. That is unacceptable,
especially for I don't know, people of a certain age.
You'd think they'd know better. This is not acceptable behavior.
So how does he explain what his wife did other
(08:09):
than to literally throw her under the bus and say, yeah,
she shoved me, she was pissed off at me, we
were having a fight.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Okay, Well that's what I mean if they were on
Okay again, we're taking them at their word that this
is what happened. But where this is what always drives
us crazy ropes is don't treat me like I'm stupid.
I know what I just saw.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Okay, So don't say you were joking around and you
were you know, being playful and you were horsing around.
That's just simply not true anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Anything if you don't want to.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Exactly just say it's a private matter, and that's how
I think.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Look, I'm sure hindsight's twenty twenty, and maybe he wishes
he would have done this, but it's just far better
to not tell a lie. I mean, that's really what
it was. He wasn't telling the truth.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I want to leave some room for the possibility of yes,
we saw it wrong, that we don't know that our
our eyes are lying to us. What I want to
leave some room for. But that was not a playful shove, now,
it was this is not to be in We saw
what we saw. She shoved him. You could go as
far as saying violently yes to his face.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Agreed, He jerked back fully.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
What else?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And he looked shocked by it. Oh, he had a
look of disbelief on his face almost. And then when
he turned and saw members of the press waiting for
them with cameras rolling, he knew he was probably very
sure at that point that whoopsie, that all just got
caught on video. And yes, it's been paused, it's been
zoomed in on, it's been slow mode. And really what
you see is unmistakable. You see a wife who is
(09:44):
mad at her husband, who lost control and shoved him
in the face. And it really isn't anything less.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Than that, or maybe we're just seeing get wrong. I
will take them at their words, but they say, over
in France, did you see all that? Over in France
is not as big of a deal it is other places,
because the French have a long history at least the
press does leaving people alone public figures in their private manners,
no matter how scandalous. Sometimes it might be well.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And just to point out for those who don't know,
but I'm sure it would be hard. You'd have to
be living under a rock perhaps not to know that. Okay,
their love story in our country I don't think would
have ever flown. But this Macrone was the student of
his now wife, Brigitte. He was fifteen when she was
thirty nine, She was married with children, She was his
(10:29):
theater teacher, and after a certain amount of time that
passed by, they then got together. And there is a
twenty five year age gap. But it began, or at
least that maybe there was this spark of romance began
when he was fifteen and she was thirty nine.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I'd have to say it like that. Well, I am
not gonna poo anybody's unorthodox love story. Okay, you all
do your thing, just don't be shoving each other in
the head. I was about to say on camera, but
you just shouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
You shouldn't do it in private in any way.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Another story, there's a devil on the loose in the Ozarks.
I didn't see this show, right, Devil.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
In the Devil in the Ozarks. It's HBO Max. You
can see it on Is it Max or HBO Max? Now?
Is it HBO Max?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Well, it's still Max until further Okay, so it's Max.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
So it's a Max documentary. You can watch it on
Hulu or Max. And I actually want to watch it
now after hearing a little bit more about this case.
But they put this on just because his story of
how he was convicted was so fascinating. But now he's
on the run, you.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Know what, that's key to explain. I didn't say that, right.
The show has been out there already years about this guy,
because he was apparently a bad enough dude with an
interesting enough story that they decided to do a documentary
on him.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, he was a police officer and briefly a police chief.
If he was actually removed from that position because he
was having so many run ins with city employees with citizens.
He was just as many people in the town say
he was evil and they knew it, and so he
was forced to step down. But nine months after he
was pushed out as police chief, he was still a
(12:16):
police officer. He was convicted of shooting a city employee,
a water employee, the city's water employee, in the head.
And then when he gets arrested for that, they run
his DNA through the system and find out bing it's
a match for a twenty year old rape of a
school teacher in Rogers, and you're very familiar with Rogers, Arkansas.
(12:38):
That was, yeah, an unsolved crime, no one knew, but
it was a violent rape. And so he was then
convicted of that as well. So a rapist and a murderer.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
And a guy who's the subject of a documentary because
of his crimes is on the.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Loose, on the loose, and there is real fear that
perhaps he could be seeking vengeance or revenge because he's
just Everyone who knew him said he's that kind of guy.
But his name is Grant Harden, and how he escaped
from prison is also remarkable. This could be a whole
other documentary. He impersonated a corrections officer, but they don't
know how he did it because he had a uniform on.
(13:18):
It wasn't a uniform that is issues for that prison.
But somehow he made one, found one, created one. They
don't know. And he walked out in broad daylight on
Sunday afternoon and a prison guard let him go because
he looked efficially.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
That's incredible to me that prison. Did you see an update?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I haven't seen whether or not he has been let
go or not, my goodness, but you know the area,
so that's part of what they're talking about. This search
is incredibly complicated because the Ozarks, if you haven't been
right there in northeast Arkansas is northwest Arkansas. What is
that terrain like?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
It's just mountainous. It's beautiful, but it's literally everybody's you've
heard of the Ozarks yet that's just a mountainous region.
There is all kinds of wildlife out there. The weather
can be horrific depending on the time of year. You
got lakes around, you have all it is. It's God's country.
You could argue this is where you would that's what
you would describe it as God's country. And if he
(14:19):
is just run around out there in the mountains, in
the woods and he knows the area, they say, guys
from Arkansas, Ah, this might take a while. I was
just blown away that how in the world of all things,
you have a literally a TV star if you will,
in your jail and you let him walk out. Even
the prison guard when you looked at his.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Face, Yeah, how did you not recognize him?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
That he is the devil?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
He is probably the most famous inmate, I would argue.
I would guess who else has their own Max series
right about their crime? How was he able to not
be recognized even if he had a prison uniform on
you? You still think that you know the guy?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
That's bold And again part of the issue they said
he does have Yes, he has police training. He knows
how to help himself, he knows how to come across
like a police officer. So yeah, he is on the run.
That was just one of those stories when you told
me about it. Initially, somebody escaped in Arkansas, blah blah, like,
wait a minute, how did this guy get away? So
that's a somebody's Well, there'll be an update next here.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
There needs to be consequences, how that happened, and why
that happens. I think we should lighten it up. Yeah,
we need to end this with the story that we're
still talking about, and that is Sidney Sweeney. She's one
of the biggest hottest stars around. Now she is putting
(15:39):
up her bathwater for sale.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
That's the headline that is actually accurate. Sidney Sweeney is
selling her actual bathwater. I saw the headline, I said,
let me look into this more, and I was like, oh, wow,
that's right. Actually is that's actually true. I love this story.
I love what they're doing. It's a partnership doctor. I
wasn't familiar Doctor's Watch.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Doctor Squatch. I've never heard of that soap. But now hey,
smart marketings. But they're talking about it now.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Some of you, all of them are may be already familiar.
She did a collaboration with them in which she was
in a tub in a bubble bath that went viral.
So now they've come back robes and she put out
and say, hey, people kept asking me about my bath water,
so we saved it. And they're not just selling it
for you to smell, drink or put on you. I
(16:26):
should say that they're infusing it.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yes, they're infusing it with an exfoliating soap that they say, yes,
is actually has Sydney's bathwater inside of it. And yeah,
it's been described as a very real and very limited
edition of exfoliating soap made with sand pine bark extract
and a touch of Sydney's real bathwater. Would you buy the.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Soap under no circumstance? Not just out of curiosity because
I'm just not a thing. But I only see this
as brilliant marketing. I think it's wonderful. They could literally
take one drop and put it in that mixture, and
technically it's mixed with her bath soap, So somebody's gonna
(17:14):
go out and actually think they are getting If someone
goes out and buys a bar of soap and says,
I can't wait to get in the shower with this
bar of soap because then I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Rub Sydney's Sweeney's DNA all over me. Wait, will that
have her DNA in it? And could that have other
implications it's being washed off?
Speaker 1 (17:34):
You know, could if there's even any bathwater in there
at all?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
How do they prove that her bathwater's in there?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
You fill a tub with water, say hey, Sidney, come
stick two hands in it. It's her bath water. You
could technically get away with it that that's not the point.
It's just they're playing on And yes, this young woman.
Every time I go into Saphora, which is a lot
with a twelve year old, Sidney Sweeney's there.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
She's everywhere in every movie, She's on every bill board.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
White Lotus is the only thing I have seen her in.
I don't have any relationship with Sidney Sweeney, but I
love this. I love that she's doing it. I love
that she's embracing it. Some people want to It's going
to be some haters out there and saying this is
too far, it's just too much. This is silly, and
you're selling sex and you're selling fantasy and all.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's okay, it's fine. With all the other things going
on in the world and a lot of what we
just talked about in this podcast, we kind of need stories.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Like this, right, I don't mind this one.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Shouldn't take ourselves so seriously.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Is it too much eight bucks for I think eight bucks.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I think that actually is a decent price point for
what they're selling. And I loved how they described this
or who said this a perfect combination of the two
best places on the planet, the outdoors and Sydney's. Sweeney's
back up even that she laughed was I was.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
A little annoyed at that one. Really, at the end
of the day, that's that's freaking clever because it was
a little that went a little too far from me.
The best place on earth is to be in the
tub with the naked girl. That one went a little
too far puts still sex cells. It's brilliant and it's edgy,
it's a little bit and it has everybody talking. I
don't mind this one at all.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
It's good, clean fun five thousand bars. But I'm bumped.
Oh god, see you even miss my bad.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Pun well because I think it's good, nasty fun, because
the nastiest place in my home on a daily basis
will be the tub I just got out of. Everybody said,
why I want to sit own?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Do you want to know something? I I hardly ever
take a bath, but when I do, I shower first
for that exact reason. Does that Does anyone else do that?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
To your point, I always shower before I get into
a body of water of some kind. If I get
into a tub, if I get into a pool, if
I get it to the hot tub, yeah, oh god,
oh my goodness, and then.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I shower afterwards. Of course, it's not about getting clean.
It's about feeling warm, sudsy water around you. Perhaps it
is for me. That is not about getting clean, Because
anyone who's had a kid or had to, you know,
give someone a bath. You see the remnants around the tub,
and it's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I know, Sydney Sweeney's gorgeous, but she takes nasty baths
like the rest of us. Okay, she is getting funk
off that body of hers, and lord knows all the
other products. She might have a lot more coming off
her body than I do.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So that's true, all the lotions we use stuff, I
get it, I get it. Yeah. So now this has
turned from good clean fun tech net. Wow, we just
spiraled on that one.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Bad How many bads am I taking with you? I
can remember one one.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
We have taken one one together.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And I wanted to get out of that one. No,
I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Because we both showered first,
I think, so this is now gone too far. We
will not be selling our bath water folks.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
All right, I feel like we should wrap it up. Hey,
I hope you all had a little laugh and a
little bit to talk about. We appreciate you as always
running with us on the weekend. Have a wonderful day, everybody.
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