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December 28, 2025 29 mins

Our famously available women are looking back on 2025 and just how far they’ve come in the love department!

 

Is modern dating sliding into the DMs? DeAnna shares about one man who recently got her attention.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
iHeart podcasts, bring you the ultimate Summer of love Tree.
This is famously available, been here on famously Available, and
as we wind up this year of twenty twenty five,
I wanted to get our famously available women together to
chat and reflect back on what this year has been

(00:22):
for them. So ladies, take it away.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hey, everybody, Kathy here with Deanna and Mercedes and we
are just here together to have some end of the
year girl chat. How are you guys doing today.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
I'm feeling a little under the weather, but I'm talking
to you guys, so it's a good day.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
I'm doing great. I just listened to the podcast yesterday
with Mercedes and Bryce me too. I just like so happy.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
What'd you guys think?

Speaker 4 (00:50):
I listen, whether you fall madly in love and run
off into the sunset or not. I thought it was
a really great first date. And he's a nice guy.
Is his episode. I just have mad respect for guys
who can show up in that sense. I think it's
a lot for all of us to come on here
and go on blind dates and then talk about it,

(01:11):
for everyone to listen and dissect and tear apart, but
for him in particular to come on and date you
and then be a part of the podcast and talk
about it. And I don't know if you've listened yet, Mercedes,
but he only had really wonderful things to say about you.
Not shocking, not shocking because you're so great. But I
just think that makes a stand up guy. He could
have come on and been like, m she ignored me

(01:31):
with all her friends and Lula lulit. No, he was
a solid dude. He was like, she's gorgeous, she's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
The date was great.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
I'd love to see her again. He just had really
great things to say about you, and I have a
lot of respect for that.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I've got to echo that. I listened to the podcast, Mercedes,
and I was even more adamant. Oh, she's got to
give him a second date. She's got to give him
a second champion. I really because he when he was
talking about the date, and he was saying, you know,
there were all these people she had like people, and
I had no one. But I made it work. I

(02:03):
thought he came across on the podcast a really positive
person who's ready to engage to have fun. He thought
you were beautiful. He said that if you were in
La he would have already had another date with you.
He just said, you check a lot of boxes. And
I do agree that it's really hard to go on
a first date at a concert with when you know

(02:25):
no one and the girl you're having to date and
knows everyone. I went such a.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
I'm with Kathy, I think you ought to give him
a second chance, even if it's just like a quick drink,
if he makes his way to Nashville, because it sounds
like he's there quite a bit. Yeah, even if he
just makes his way to Nashville and you guys meet
for a drink, just to see without anybody else there,
without any other noise, if there is anything there. Because
I think he's a really great I think he's a
really great guy, whether he's yours or not. But I

(02:54):
believe that it is worth a second date to just see,
to just see if there's any mystery there.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, no, I agree. I definitely like the first day was.
It was good, And it says a lot about his
character and who he is that he could just like
jump in and do whatever. Do you know, Like not
a lot of people can do that, I will say.
And we were actually texting the other day and I
was like you know, distance is hard, and we both
agreed that we were like kind of on the same
page as like we were very aware that we live

(03:23):
in different cities and like that's really really hard. But
he was like, if we ever like find each other
in if I'm in Nashville or you're in LA, like
let's catch up.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
And I was like, yeah, yeah, but let me let
me just say that that sounds sort of fatalistic to me, Like, yeah,
it's nice knowing you. You know, if I ever crossed
your way again, I think you should be intentional with
him about trying to set up a gate that you know,
in the next let's just say month, surely you'll be
in LA or he'll be in Nashville. And and like

(03:51):
Deanna said, get together have a drink, because I really,
I mean I only spoken briefly at the concert, and
I did feel for him that you knew everyone, he
knew no one, plus just chasing you both up and
down from the bar and back up the suite again.
So I didn't have a whole lot of time, but
I really liked what I heard when he was talking

(04:12):
to Ben. I really think I think you should do it.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, yeah, I need to I honestly haven't listened to it,
so I need to listen to it and then. But no,
he's a great guy at the end of the day,
and I do think I should give him another date
for sure.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
I think it's quite interesting given we're on the same
podcast and we went on the same scenario for two days. Right,
I had a different experience, And I think that's why
I'm so advocating for you to have a second date,
because my scenario was very different. Like the guy that
I went on a date with, he really didn't engage
with anybody else there. Right, Kathy was there, she knows.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Are we talking about the guy at the concert, Deanna? Yeah,
unbelievably different vibe.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
It's night and day my date to Mercedes date.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah. Bryce was really trying to get to talk to
everyone and really trying to engage with all of us
and make the best of a situation where, you know what,
Dianna's state kind of stood there like a statue and
just he didn't even try to engage.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Like he was a placeholder. He was there, yes, you know,
for for whatever reason he was, I don't know, maybe
he's doing somebody a solid and just showing up so
I actually had a date. That's what it felt like,
do you know what I mean? Or like your date
was actually engaging and genuinely interested in you, like that
was seen across the room. So I just think that

(05:31):
if we're comparing the two and it's not a point
of comparison, that's not what I mean. I'm rooting for
you to hopefully explore, to see if there is something
else there. That's what I'm rooting for. Mine was clear
as day that there was nothing there. He did not
try to talk to anybody else in the suite, he
didn't leave the suite, he left early. He didn't even
ask my phone number, Like there was like it was
like nothing on.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
A scale of one to ten, about a minus one.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Really, Oh my god, he's a nice guy. There just
wasn't anything there.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I mean, there was no connection with yeah, Jna or
frankly anyone else where Mercedes. I thought. Bryce really tried.
I know, he chatted with me, and I did throw
him for a loop though, when when I first met
him and I said, so, what are you looking for?
And he said, you know? And he said this on
the on the podcast with Ben and his mother, He said,

(06:18):
you know, I'm just looking for a beautiful woman. And
then he said, but you know, beautiful looks different different people.
I'm looking for someone who has he's intrinsic qualities. Like
he he spoke very well about what beauty meant him.
But when he said it to me, I thought, is
he really like superficial saying I want a beautiful woman?

Speaker 4 (06:38):
He's not. I feel like there's so he's.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Not a different what I'm saying. He has so much
more depth.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, for someone who has like been in like a
spiritual growth journey and working on myself. I could see
that through the things that he was saying. There's a
part of it where he's still trying to look cool
and attractive, Like I could see that, but there was
also I could read between the lines that there is
growth in the things that he had to say. And listen,
y'all would all be lying if you weren't, like, we
want some tall, dark and handsome to show up who's

(07:03):
super freaking hot. Like, come, there's a piece of it
where we're all really superficial. Of course, he went's a
beautiful girl.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Okay, So we have to be proud of ourselves. We
have put ourselves out there. I went to two Christmas
parties this past week, solo, literally solo, and this really
good looking guy came up to me and I thought,
thank you God, my Christmas is come early. And we
were standing and he introduced himself and the minute up
in his mouth. I hadn't been at this party forty

(07:31):
five minutes and I had another one to go to.
So I was honestly finishing my drink, getting ready to leave.
And when I tell you drunk, he his tongue with
two thick no oh no, and yeah. I just so
literally forty five minutes in and he's he's drunk. He said,
you know, I don't know anyone here. I'm here. It
was from out of town there lies he I would say,

(07:53):
he's in the sixties, so you.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Know, you know enough to know better.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
You're appropriate for me and a really good looking guy,
but so drunk. And so I said to him, uh,
you know, he said, you're you know, you're beautiful. I
mean it was bad. So I said, you know, I
wish I hope you have a great holiday. I got
to run out the door. Oh my god. But I
was proud of myself that I did it. I went
by myself and I went from there to the next party,

(08:17):
which was a much younger crowd, uh, but still lots
of fun. And you know, I put myself out there.
That's that's what we got to do.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
That's really awesome, Kathy. You know, as someone who does
not drink anymore, the drunkenness I cannot tolerate. I don't
mind dating someone who drinks. That doesn't bother me, but
I cannot tolerate like drunkenness, like slurring your words, not
remembering it.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Is never I don't care what you say drinking, you know,
getting a buzz on whatever you want to call it,
giving your confidence, all that stuff. Here's what I have
seen people do. They get drunk and then they use
alcohols and excuse for bad behavior, and it's never an
excuse for bad pain.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, or people will get like too drunks because they're nervous,
and then it's just like you're ruining it for yourself
right before you even talk to someone, Like get a
good buzz, but like getting too drunk is like it's
very good thing.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Even when I did drink, I don't feel like I
went on a first date and got too drunk. Do
you know what I mean like I still wanted to
be able to make sure I liked someone and to
be able to read the room correctly, but even more
so now that I don't drink. For me, it feels
like a solid lesson, Like mind your p's and q's.
We still want to show up and impress someone. Don't
be sloppy on a first or second or third date.

(09:30):
Don't be sloppy in general.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I'm not gonna say, I think good rule of thumb
is don't ever get slapped with alcohols. I mean, if
you're with a bunch of girls on a girl's weekend,
yeah great, but I'm dating Uh.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
No, No, it's just not cute. It's not a good look.
Don't show up that way. Don't show up. I too
went to a Christmas party, but I did not have
the same experience Kathy. It was all women. I know,
I didn't I know.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
But still that you know, I mean, honestly, I'm I'm
going to give you kudos, Deanna, because I find it
difficult sometimes to go out, even with a bunch of
I was out with girls last night. Sometimes it's hard
to get the clothes on, get the makeup on, to
show up just because it's hard. Even if it's with girls.
You know, there's lots of questions, what are you doing?

(10:17):
Are you're dating? It's always the same kind of stuff,
So I find that difficult as well. Sometimes.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah, yeah, I think I've learned to show up in
certain ways and it's so hard. And I know you
both understand this having been on television and you know.

(10:44):
Not to take it back to Bryce, but he said
when I was listening to the conversation between you and
Bryce and I was there, Mercedes, he made the comment of, like,
you guys not going to know each other beforehand because
you don't want to preconceived notion. And I feel that
for myself. I have a really hard time going to
parties or making new friends or dating in general because

(11:04):
if they know who I am or they have Googled me,
that is a turnoff because then they have a preconceived
notion of who they think that I am. And my experience,
I have found that people don't truly want to get
to know me. They want to get to know that
person that they saw on TV. They think they know
that person, so they don't try to get to know me.

(11:25):
They just think that they know this person and that's hard.
Like in dating general, that feels really hard for me.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
I think that's my least favorite thing about dating like
today is because social media is so in the center
of our world and Google and all these things that
like you and especially like you said us being on TV,
we're really easy to find and before and I'm I
do this too. I will say, like I am the
type of girl before a date. I'm like looking at

(11:53):
your social media, like you know, like I've definitely been
that girl. So like going on blind dates. I think
it's really cool because yeah, you're not able to do
that and you have no you don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
This person like you're literally just it's like, so here's something,
here's something for you both to look forward to when
you get to be my age. Men my age and
really even five and ten years younger, they don't they're
not on social media Facebook.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Maybe that is so attractive to me. Nice, it is
so attractive.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
It is. Uh, But to your point, Deanna, I've had
a few guys that have found me through Facebook or whatever,
or friends have set me up, but they have done
the research once they know no, Yep.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
It's an itch for me, it's an inch for me.
To for me for them to show up and say, oh,
I know who you are. I watched your show however,
long time, long ago. That's that's unattractive for me. When
someone walks up and they're like, oh, I'm sorry, I
didn't watch your show. I'm like, no, please, No.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
I love when people say that.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, that's so attractive to me. If you come up
and you're like, oh no, no, no, I know you may
sound this on Instagram, it's a hard pass for me.
It is immediately a turn off. It's hard for me
to move.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
All right, Wait, do you guys really be You said
it's a turn off that they're checking out your social media,
But would either of you really want a guy who
has no social media?

Speaker 4 (13:10):
No, I want him to have social media so that
I can go down the rabbit hole was I was
messaging you guys last week because this guy reached out
to me on Instagram and said that he listens to
the podcast, and one of his friends told him that
he should message me, and he messaged our producer Heather
as well, well listen, I'm keeping my options open. So
I immediately go to this guy's profile, but it's private,

(13:31):
and I'm like, oh, who has a private profile these days,
and I couldn't get a solid picture of him. So
it allows me to be a little bit of a
detective to try and find things out to see because
there has to be some piece.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Has he reached out to you yet?

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, we've had a full on conversation on Instagram.
But I need like a wow, he doesn't even live here,
you guys, he lives like in northern California. He doesn't
even live here.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Don't let distance get in your way.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, I'm not letting it get in my way. But
I am completely acknowledging that my free time is very minimum. Okay,
so I have a set schedule with my kids. So
say if I have a stretch of five days where
I don't have the kids, am I really flying to
northern California to spend.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
The hour with a guy said he's going to fly
to you.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
He has kids too, that's the thing. So he has
young kids too. So I just from the get go,
before there is any attachment made or any feelings or
anything that happens, I'm immediately like, uh, this is probably
not going to work. He has his children are younger
than mine. Just listen, I'm running this whole scenario out
just from what I see on his social media. His
children look to be younger than mine. But I immediately

(14:39):
am like, well, it's probably not going to work. How
much time could I truly invest?

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I will say I to be fair. When you have
young children, Deanna and Anyonheen you're dating has young children,
and you've got you know, divorce, You've got their dads
or whatever it is, You've got the mechanics, it's complicated
to set up to set up.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, in a dream scenario, I'd love to find someone
here in Los Angeles, you know, and given that that's
long distance as it is, I mean, it could take
me twenty minutes to get to someone's house for four hours, right,
you know what I mean? I would ideally love to
find someone here in Los Angeles so that it's like, hey,
let's meet up on Thursday night and drive down and
be able to sleep in my own bed at night
and drive back.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
That would be an ideal scenario for me because I
am not in a position realistically that if I met
someone back home in Georgia, I'm not moving home for
another ten years at least. Yeah, so what does that
really look like?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, I mean it is different. I really hadn't given
that serious thought. It is true I have kids here,
but I've made it very clear that I will move if.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
I but your children are older.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
That's right I'm saying. I'm saying that I absolutely give
a lot of credence to that whole thought. Now that
you have young kids, you can't just pack up and.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
I can't pack up and move and somebody else and
he probably he can't, so it goes just it's back
to the whole thing. Like I I it's a love
hate relationship with social media. If they're posting shirtless, come
get ready with me, that's an ick for me. But
it's so it's so bad something where I can go
down the rabbit hole to see if they're attractive or not.

(16:19):
I enjoy that.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
What do you think, Mercedes?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
I always say like a man with under a thousand
followers is my type of man. Like with social media.
You know, like they have social media. It's not like
they're like against it, but they're not like they're not
making it their life, do you know what I'm saying?
Like they're not Again, the get readies with me, or
like the gym shirtless picks.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
I'm like, look what's in my coffee?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Thank you? No?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Thanks? Can I give you something to look forward to?

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
When you? When the guys did are on social media
that think it's really hot to post pictures themselves with
baseball caps on backwards.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Wait in bathrooms, any any combination of this scenario in bathrooms,
shirtless sitting on the sofa with the beer, or a
dead fish hanging from a hook on a boat. I
mean it's all the same. It's like, really, you think
that's attractive?

Speaker 3 (17:14):
No? Yeah, yeah, no, it's not my vibe. Again, a
man was under a thousand followers. That doesn't make it
his whole personality. That's that's the dream social media man.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
I don't walk around with my phone out all the
time trying to take pictures and videos of everything and
putting it on social media. That's not who I am.
So I for sure don't want to date a guy
who is like that. I just can't have that be
his pride.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I think women do it more than men, though.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Women just post more more more about their lives and
what they're doing, and I think at least that's been
my experience.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yeah, but I like that. I don't. I don't mind
that as long as it's not the whole world, and
there is something to say for guys who just make
it like their entire it's their life, it's their livelihood.
I don't want that. That's not the kind of life
I want.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Also, I will say one thing, and this is so me.
If a man follows me and they like are on
social media or whatever, I automatically go to who they follow,
and if they are following like girl, girl gro girl, like,
I just think it says so much about that person
who they're following. And if it's a whole bunch of

(18:20):
random girls, I'm like, yeah, I'm not following you back,
like I'm just another girl in the book that you're
just trying to you know. So I always pay attention
to who they follow.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Oh, I'm gonna have to make a note of that.
I don't do very much like diving in Instagram, So
I don't do very much well. We've talked about this
before and I'm pretty sure I've said it to Kathy.
People don't slide into my DMS. I don't know if
that happens to you, Mercedes, But that doesn't happen to me.
I get a lot of women who message me just
say they followed me since the Bachelorette, or they listen
to our podcast, or they like my mom tips or

(18:52):
my freaking elf tips. These stupid elves leaving soon, thank goodness.
But I don't get a lot of men who slide
into my dms who are like, it doesn't happen. So
this one guy, this one guy messaging me, I was like, okay, bold,
I appreciate it. I at least appreciate it. But I
don't that doesn't happen to me. I don't get people
who slide into my dms and message me at all.

(19:15):
So even just this this guy doing that, I was like, hey,
this is bold. I really appreciate it. Like way to
go I did. I told him that. I was like,
I appreciate it, and then he sent me his phone number,
and I was like, let's let's stile it back a bit.
Let's just you know, slow down. I listened to way
too many crime podcasts. I'm not trying to you know,
so like, do.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
You know the solution to that? Wait, I'm going to
be your mother here for a minute. I my kids
gave me this idea. I wasn't that smart myself. I
got a Google phone number and a Google phone number.
I'm telling you I've turned more people onto this again.
My kids have to get the credit to You cannot

(19:52):
trace if you give someone your mobile phone. Believe me,
they can find out your address, pretty much everything they
want to know about you. But a Google phone number
is untraceable. And I will tell you my sign of
can I trust a guy when I give And I've
had it happen twice where I gave him my Google
number and it comes through as a random number. It's

(20:16):
weird how they dealt. But when they dial you, they
have to say who they are and then it rings
and you can accept or deny the call. I've had
two guys say to me, why are you doing that?
I said, because I'm concerned about safety and I don't
know you. And if they take that badly, if they
don't like that. Out most men that when I've talked

(20:39):
to them, they're like, oh my god, that's so smart.
I'm glad that you care about your safety. So that's
what I do. And then they you know, so that's
something you might try, or you can also do calls
through Instagram, Facebook. I don't know if those are traceable though,
I just don't.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
I don't know either, but that's a really good tip.
Thank you for telling me that, because I'm not tech savvy.
And I also have this dream that I'm going to
walk in the Whole Foods and be perusing the asparagus
and be blown off my socks. You know what I mean.
That's I'm dreaming that I'm going to meet some man
in the wild and I was in the airport.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
He's not going to be in the asparagus isle. The
guy that, you know, the hot, the cool dude is
gonna be I know. But the hot cool dudes are
going to be in the side of B file. You know,
they're gonna be in the Ribbi steak section.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yes, I always think I'm gonna My dream is like
in an airport. I'm like, so every time I'm at
the airport, I'm like fantasizing my life. I'm like, oh,
when's my husband?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Good?

Speaker 4 (21:31):
I did get hit on in an airport once. I did.
Love that I did, and again I was like bold
and me he was I call him a kid. He
was like I don't know. This was like when I
first got divorced. So I was like, oh my god,
I'm so got hot mom vibes. But he was like,
I don't know. He must have been twelve or thirteen
years younger than me. And he was on my flight,

(21:52):
like he sat like two rows back, and I obviously
was eyeballing him, but I was with my kids, so
it was not on the forefront of my mind. And
we had been on the same connection flights and ultimately,
in the last airport he did, he totally came running
over and was like, Hey, I'm gonna shoot my shot, Like,
here's my phone number. I think you're hot. I'd love
to I'd love.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
To talk to you, and he did.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
He was so attractive to me. It ultimately didn't go anywhere,
and he lives like twenty minutes from me. We ended
up seeing each other a couple of times and kept
in touch. But it just the age difference. To you, guys,
I just cannot Our lives are so different. But for me,
those bold moves like speak wonders like shoot your shot?

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Why not? So here's something We're coming to the close
of the year. Everyone we've been shooting our shots all year,
but I want to know or trying to shoot our stats.

(22:54):
I want to know it's not working, it's not working.
But what is one word that you would use to
describe your twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
I'm going to go with rebirth. I've had it's a
good one, such a tough year with the headlines to
prove it that, I just am ready to be like,
wash me clean, make me new, wash me clean, and
make me new. I want to put all of that
stuff to to rest and I am ready to just

(23:28):
like live my best life and not be followed by
the grips of my past and my divorce.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Oh I love that.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
I love that too.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
That's a. That's a I'm going to blow a candle
out make a wish for that for you too, Deanna.
What about you, Mercedes?

Speaker 3 (23:45):
I feel like transformative. I feel like it's a good
word for me. I feel like I've really in my
year of being twenty seven, twenty twenty five, I feel
like I've really just like been okay with just being me,
and so because of that, my standards have raised. I
can say like, no, this is what I believe, and

(24:07):
I have to feel like I have to over explain
myself to people. So I feel like I've just yeah,
I feel like I've really just been I've transformed into
my own self and I'm finally like, this is me
and if you don't like it, then see it, you know.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
So that's huge, such a good place to be in.
I'm not apologetically you, especially your age.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
I mean, most people take they're older when they come
to that conclusion that I am who I am, take
me or leave me. I'm not everyone's cup of tea,
all those things that we hear. That's amazing. Yah you Mercedes.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah, Kathy, I is just going to say the same
thing like it took me years Mercedes to get to
that point. I was still people pleasing at your age.
So I think that's that's so awesome. I am so
so proud of you.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
My word is nothing compared to you, guys. My word
is grateful.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
That's wonderful one though.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Well, it's it's how I am. Just I'm so grateful
for my health, for all of you, truly, for the
whole iHeart Bachelor, the whole community, the wonderful people I've met,
my kids, my grandkids. I mean, I know that we're
supposed to be grateful. But every day I wake up

(25:19):
and I try to find one thing to start the
day off, something I'm grateful about the first thing that
I can, you know, come up with. But I think
we just, at least for me, I've gotten into this
habit of until this year thinking Okay, this is this
is just what's supposed to happen. And this year I
really realized no intentionally thanking God and being grateful for

(25:44):
all the blessings in my life.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Mm hmm, that's so beautiful.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Yeah, I love that. I love nothing more than to
have like a full and grieful heart. And I make
them I'm such a mom. But like I was going
to say, I make my kids do that. When I
pick them up from school, I'm like, hey, how your day,
and like good, And I'm like, m you got to
tell me something good, you know what I mean? We
practice a rose and a thorn. They get to tell
me something good.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
My son does highs and loves at dinner every time.
I love that.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah, we do a rose and a thorn and then
every once in a while they throw in a bud
which is something that they're looking forward to. Yeah, And
it's a good practice, right, because I think that in general,
we have to be taught those things. You know, I
don't believe that we're born with all of these gifts communication.
That is a learned skill. To have a full grateful heart.

(26:34):
I think that is a learned skill. Like I am
a glass half empty person. I think that's who I
naturally am. So I have to wake up and make
a point to be like, oh, yeah, look at this
like I have, I have a roof over my head,
I can pay my bills.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
To me, Deana, you do not give up that vibe
at all.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, I would agree not to make.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
You come of as a beautiful, assured somebody who's working
hard on herself to build a strong family, who loves
her kids. Quite to the opposite, I look at you
as someone who's class more than half full. I mean,
not him.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Thanks, Kathy. I'm grateful you guys got to meet me
this year. No, I just you know, I just don't
believe that I was always that way, and.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
I am thank you for saying that progress.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
That's exactly right. I love that, Kathy grateful. That's really
really awesome to be grateful for, And like.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
I feel like whenever I am like when I'm because
I go through seasons, right, Like, there's some seasons where
I'm like so grateful, I'm always grateful, but there's some
seasons where like I do maybe get down the dumps
about things. But when I am like grateful and make
myself like Kathy said, every morning, like being like thank
God for this, like thank you for everything, it actually
changes everything about your life. It is insane when you

(27:48):
are truly, truly, truly grateful, how many good things come
into your life as.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Well, and you're looking for them, you see them and
it doesn't have to be a big thing. I was grateful.
You're gonna laugh. I had a doctor's this morning. I
was like, am I going to get back in time?
All literally the traffic lights were green, the doctor was early.
I literally said the whole way, thank you for those
green lights. God, thank you for getting me. I mean,
and I just like my day it started out great

(28:14):
because I got green lights.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
You know, Yes, you're a fucking catch, Kathy, you two Mercedes.
I do the same thing when I joked around with
you guys that when I got up, I get up
extra early because I need to get my mind right
before with anybody else. And that's the first thing I do.
I wake up and I pray and I meditate. I've
got to get my mind right. I've I've got to
put myself in the right position to show up for
anyone else who has to be around me, which.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Is why your glasses half full, because you do.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Thanks been jumping back in here. This has been such
a great conversation. You've all been so vulnerable during this pod,
which is great. We've got more to chat about with
these women to come. Bubb will end here for now.
I've been ben
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