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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, there're folks. It is Thursday, August twenty eighth. She
called an eight year old black boy the inward and
they love her for it. Welcome to this episode of
Amy and TJ. Robes. This is a story a lot
of people will remember. The woman has now been charged.
But on its face, without knowing the details the facts
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of this, that a woman called an eight year old
boy the inWORD and then she raised over eight hundred
thousand dollars from supporters, that sounds disgusting on its face
to some.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I think it is disgusting and should be to anyone
who's listening. This is a woman. It's not disputed. It's not.
She's accused of calling an eight year old black boy,
who also has special needs who is autistic, the N
word repeatedly, and then harassing a man who called her
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on it. All caught on video, So again indisputable. The
fact that she is now being rewarded significantly, raising nearly
a million dollars, I mean that's her goal, and she
now has a new round of pleas out there for
more donations because of these charges that have just been
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filed against her, and likely because charges have been filed
against her, she will be able to raise more money.
So the fact that she's able to profit off of horrific,
hate fueled speech is deplorable. There's nothing that's okay about that.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So we will now explain what we're talking about. A
lot of you will remember this incident because it did
spark protest. National African American organizations got involved in this.
But this is a woman by the name of Shiloh Hendrix,
yes right, Shiloh Hendrix in Rochester, Minnesota, but in April
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and an intense at a playground there and little eight
year old boy, black boy with special needs, he's autistic, yes,
and he was wandering around. He grabbed an apple sauce pack,
I believe from another family's bag. So he grabbed, yes,
an apple sauce pack that wasn't his. His dad chases
after him, and then this Shiloh Hendrix chases after the
kid as well, and at that point calls the kid
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the in word. Now, a bystander comes by sees this
going on, starts rolling on the video on his phone
and confronts the lady like did you just call him?
Did you just call him the inward? She does not
deny it, and then she makes I guess the most
infuriating part of it, besides calling the inWORD, is that
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I called him what he was And all of this
is on video, and none of this is what she denied.
But that is the incident we're talking about. But now, Rope,
she is facing charges. Yes, it's a misdemeanor, but she
is facing charge for what she did, that's right.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And she not only didn't she not only said I
called him what he was, but then the bystander who
is recording her goes her into basically saying the N
word repeatedly, repeatedly. I just wanted to point that out.
She then goes on camera and says it to the
person filming her, and then starts using the N word
just NonStop. So it was appalling, to say the least.
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And it's still out there people. It's bleeped out, thankfully,
but if you want to see it for yourself, certainly
that is there. So yes, she is now being charged,
and she's now using the fact that she's being charged
for this greater plea for help.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, so the charge is misdemeanor, but still it's a
misdemeanor disorderly conduct for as they say, wrongfully and lawfully
engage in offensive, obscene, abusive, boisterous or noisy conduct, or
in offensive, obscene or abusive language that would reasonably tend
to alarm, anger, or RESI and others. That's fair.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I feel like that all reads.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It was the language she did. Now when she did
this back in April, Like you said, Ros, she's now
had a couple of rounds of fundraising. It's almost like
politicians when.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Tied to headlines.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Right, damn, that's right. So she tied it to headline.
So after the initial we now she claims, and I'm
sure a lot of stuff did come her way that
she claims she was getting death threat She claimed her
family was being threatened, she was being threatened, and she
was being harassed. I wouldn't doubt that necessarily. So she
doesn't go to what's the one go fund me, Right,
that's what a lot of people do. But this is
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on go.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
What is it called give Send Go. It's a Christian
fund raising page similar to GoFundMe. So yeah, she goes
on to give send Go and she says this, my
name is Shiloh, and I have been put into a
very dire situation. I recently had a kid steal from
my eighteen month old son's diaper bag out of park.
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I called the kid out for what he there you go.
Another man, who we recently found out has a history
with law enforcement, proceeded to record me and follow me
to my car. He then posted these videos online, which
has caused my family and myself great turmoil. My social
Security number has been leaked to my address and phone
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number have been given out freely. My family members are
being attacked. My eldest child may not be going back
to school. Even where I exercise has been exposed. I
am asking for your help to assist in protecting my family.
I fear that we must relocate. I have two small
children who do not deserve this. We have been threatened
to the extreme by people online. Anything will help. We
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cannot and will not live in fear. That was her post,
That was.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
The initial, and the donation stuck.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Off started pouring it.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And she raised hundreds of thousands of dollars, to the
point that yes, we as we sit here, we'll give
you the final number here in second because it keeps
going up. Literally right before we came on and record,
you pointed out yes, she had just received a new
five dollars donation. Yes, so the donations keep updating. But
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I don't doubt that she got hate coming her way.
I don't doubt that she got some ugly, ugly stuff
coming her way. And I don't know the seriousness or
whatever threat robes, but I don't know how to stomach
and outpouring of support for someone whose action was indefensible.
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I don't want to say that somebody can't be forgiven
and okay, but it an outpouring of support for a
woman who is standing up for her right to call
a child the N word. I'm I guess say, come on,
t J shouldn't be shocked. Why am I shocked?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I'm shocked. I'm shocked. I've never witnessed that in my life.
I'm not saying it doesn't go on, but to actually
have someone witness that and then to without much prodding
at all, repeat it and know you're being recorded and
continue like defiantly to say it that is really out there.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
You actually made it clearer for me and worse for me.
Now show that video to like, just put it on
primetime television and let it loop and let everybody see it.
And after you see that, your reaction to it is, man,
I want to go online and send her some money
and support. Now, when you put it that way, if you
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watch that video and still in that moment, want to
reach out to the point of sending her money, I
am confused.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I'm confused too. I don't know. I don't know how
that feels like a good use of your money when
there are so many people who need help.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So she updated us, right. She came back in June,
right after the initial post, and she raised hundreds of thousands.
She came back in June and gave us an update
about what was going on. You see that one in
their rows.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Oh yes, I do update.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Okay, So she's what she said in June.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yep, she said, It's been quite some time since I've
given you all on update about my family and myself.
We are doing great. Great is in all caps. Big
things are happening regarding our future. Life changing events are
at play, and we have all of you to thank
for that. I won't go into specifics, but just know
that all is well on our end. I will keep
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you all updated when new events arise. Keep standing up
for yourselves and keep fighting for the first Amendment.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I take issue. What are we fighting for? Do you
really want to preserve the right you do have the right?
Do you want to fight for the right to call
a black child the inward to his face? You're saying,
stand with me so we can fight for this right
to do what I do did. If anybody takes issue
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with me on that, I don't know what we're doing.
What she's telling everybody to come join me and support
me in standing up for my right to do what
I did.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
She's taken something terrible that she's done and somehow made
it a rallying cry for her right to do that.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Is it a racist rallying cry? Is she just pulling
the wool over people's eyes as she found the right audience.
She has almost raised a million dollars.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I don't understand calling using the in words, and how
is that on a Christian fundraising site? I don't That's
also I don't understand that at all. I'm just as
puzzled as you are as to who the people are
and who are supporting her and why they're supporting her.
That's the other question I have.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
You know me, Robes, I'm always trying to give benefit
of the doubt to folks, and I try to even
I can maybe give a benefit of the doubt to
someone who got caught up in the heat of the
moment and something ugly in them came out. Like she's
defending herself and wanting support for what she did. There's
nothing apologetic.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
No, there's nothing apologetic, not an acknowledgment of what she did.
In fact, she's saying she only called him what he was,
So there you go. Yeah, she doesn't think she said
anything wrong or did anything wrong, So why would she
apologize that I could get behind if she was apologizing saying,
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learn from me, don't ever do this, don't ever be
like this, And if that were being rewarded, okay, maybe,
but still this woman maybe made into a millionaire for
doing what she did.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
So, yes, there's the update she gave us in June.
I believe it was. But she just was now officially charged.
She's facing charges for what she did. Yes, it took
a while. The prosecutor there said, yes, that was It
took a while because this is a complex case and
it was worth them taking the time that they did.
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So I guess just twenty four hours after she found
out she was phasing charges, she puts up a new update,
and you thought her other updates were doozies. You going
in love with this one?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Welcome back to this edition of Amy and TJ. We
are talking about Shiloh Hendrix, the woman who is caught
on video acknowledging and then reiterating and then again stating
that she called an eight year old autistic black boy
the N word, and she defended her right to do so.
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She said it was because she was just calling it
like she saw it. Basically, she was just calling him
what he was.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Is first Amendment issue at all? Is it? Are are
you allowed to actually, I don't know this question. Are
you allowed to use? I mean that is hate speech?
Is it not?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It is? And she was. The whole charge against her
is the law states that you cannot be engaged in offensive, obscene, abusive,
boisterous noisy conduct, or in offensive, obscene or abusive language
that would reasonably tend to alarm, anger, or resent. So yes,
that would absolutely And she didn't just do it once,
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or didn't just slip up or didn't just say she
defiantly repeated it, repeated it, repeated it, repeated it. I
mean that was absolutely intentional to aggravate to insult.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
So much of what she has been posting and saying
and trying to rally people around is the First Amendment
and having a right to say what you want. And
that's a curious question for me now that I don't
understand on a local or a federal level, does a
white person have the right to call me the inWORD
and not face any consequences.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
It doesn't appear that you do that.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
We did, no, But she's trying to make an argument.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That there are a lot of things you can't say,
and that is among them. So I don't Yes, you're
right that what she's rallying people around actually does not
protect her in any way for the crime she committed.
And I say crime she committed. I understand she hasn't
been convicted yet, but we have the video, so sorry,
we know what she said. So here is her update,
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because y'all aren't going to believe she is now taking
the fact that she's been charged and now thinking che ching.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
It's fund raising. It's fundraising campaign now.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
She also wants to let you know what you've been
investing in to date, so she says, hello friends. In
my latest update, I stated that Big things were happening
regarding our future, and they have exclamation point. I have
used the donation money to buy my family a home
with plenty of land. We are now in a place
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with excellent demographics, and we are thriving. I'm gonna stop
right now. Your reaction.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
What what what? What? What?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
There aren't black people where she lives, now what? That's
what my takeaway was.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
They're excellent. They're excellent. The demographics there are excellent. So
look it don't want to you know, I try, abe,
I try always to find a way to give somebody
the benefit of the doubt. But sometimes, like they say,
when people tell you who they are, you should listen.
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And she doesn't seem to be shy about telling us
who she is. So I'm listening and okay, you do
you and I have no problem with her doing and
living however she wants to live. It is uncomfortable and
disturbing to think that this person has found an audience,
a pretty massive one, to support what this is, which
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is blatant racism. Yeah she's I mean, she's not being shy.
I'm not calling her a racist, but she is okay
with this. So she's telling us.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yes, So we are now in a place with excellent demographics,
and we are thriving. My children get to live in
peace with nature instead of dealing with the chaos that
comes with large cities. Their father is teaching them how
to be strong men, and we are both teaching them
the importance of preserving our existence. That was another one
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that got me. Preserving our existence. We deserve this, we
all do. I actually felt, Look, obviously, I'm pretty much
as why as they get. I felt uncomfortable reading this.
This felt scary. Frankly, there's no other way to put it.
It actually felt scary that US white people have to
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preserve our existence better demo. Excellent demographics means only other
white people.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Hey, look, I'm how else do you read it? I mean,
I don't know how else to read it.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
There's no other way.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I mean, if somebody could read that and take it
totally differently than I am sitting here as a who
I am from, where I'm from, I don't know, it's
it's I don't know, I'm just I'd keep always trying
to find a way, find a way to say, well,
maybe they meant this, or maybe it's this, or maybe
they've gone through that I'm trying to be sympathetic, empathetic
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and everything I can find it between. It's just she's
telling us. She looked into a camera and repeatedly said
the N word. She's telling us what she thinks. Okay,
so let's listen and take her out a word and
why not? Okay, I don't think it's an insult now
to call her a racist.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I mean, that's exactly what she is telling us.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
She is. She's, yes, she is.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
This is a tough one for me with this, with
this lady, Yeah, there's nothing.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I'm trying to find something redeeming or saying, well, maybe
this will maybe that. And if anybody is saying, well, TJ,
she's right because maybe he was of this, then I
can't listen to that. Like what reasonable person can look
at that and go oh yeah, good, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
No, And look, I know you have said this before,
but I mean I've heard you say you prefer an
overt racist to a covert racist, and here you have
exhibit A with the overt racist. I think it's just
alarming that she's been able to profit off of it
to the extent she has, and the fact that she
could be you know, it's I think it's at eight
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hundred and nineteen thousand dollars right now and climbing and climbing.
She's bought a big house with plenty of land. Because
of what she said and the fact that she's defending
it and is unapologetic about it, people are cheering her
on and funding her, and to me, that is the
disturbing party.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, my discomfort has been misplaced. Yes, obviously the people
like her out there. It's the support she has received
to where you can literally say she has benefited in life.
She has profited, been able to buy herself a new
home because she looked in the camera and she called
a little boy the inWORD that's tough, that's tough the stomach.
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She finished up, like you said, she got charged this week,
and so she finished up her latest update here robes
By saying with that said, I am sure you all
are aware of the and she put it in quote
charges that the liberal state of Minnesota is trying to
burden me with I guarantee you that I will not
be backing down and I will be fighting back. I
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have an excellent team on my side who are knowledgeable
and trustworthy. I am confident in our success in the
United States. We are protected by the First Amendment, and
no amount of hurt feelings can change that. This second
round of donations will help with legal obligations and the
continued protection of my family and the preservation of our
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new life. I am so grateful for how far we
have already come. Keep fighting.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I just threw up in my mouth. So this second
round of donations will help with her legal fight and
to keep up the price of owning a large home
with a lot of land.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Wasn't there a time that you if you got caught
saying the N word on you were canceled recording of
any kind. Nobody's going to support you. Nobody's going to
come to your aid and defend that.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well, people are anonymously able to come to her support
and her aid. And that's the difference. Right, they can
anonymously give her money. They don't have to publicly say
that they support someone who is a racist, But privately
they can with no one watching, they can. That's the
scary part, right, But yes, publicly she would have to
be canceled.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Right when is the uh She's supposed to be in court? Uh?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
October?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Uh in October at some point, I think it's just
a video conference some issue that I have to physically
be there. So the case, we'll continue, She says, she's
going to keep fighting. And to your point, Robes, I
think there is more a one off thing here or
there with some racist this or that from somebody no surprise.
I think I am surprised, and I think I am
wondering what that means when someone who is so blatant
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we don't have to interpret her language. She looked in
a camera and repeated it right, that that person can
so easily build up that much support. And by the way,
NAACP also started a go fundme page for the young man.
It raised a third or certainly less than half, but
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maybe a third of what this lady has raised for
calling him the in.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Words, Wow, that's telling. Well, look, you know, it's important
to know these things so that we can keep fighting
for tolerance, for love and for respect. And that's what
we'll keep fighting for here on this podcast. But you know,
thank you for listening to us on this Thursday evening.
I'm Amy Robach alongside my partner T. J. Holmes. Have
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a great night, everybody,