7th Anniversary of #RolandMartinUnfiltered, 4 Years of Black Star Network, Ivey on Guard & Epstein

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Speaker 3 (01:45):
Now we have to keep this going.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
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owned media and something like CNN.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
You can't be black owned media and be scared.

Speaker 6 (01:58):
It's time to be smart.

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Speaker 2 (03:53):
Inst what's up, folks?

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Today is Wednesday, September fourth, twenty twenty five, coming up
on rolland Mark on Filter streaming live.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
On the Black Start Network.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yes, it is this seventh anniversary Rolling Maark on the Filter,
the fourth anniversary of Black Start Network. And so we're
gonna have several people who actually were on our first
show seven years ago, including Bishop William Barber, Linda Sarsour
and others. We got an all star panel in studio.
Lots to break down, folks. It's time to bring the
fuck rolling bart On Filter on the Black sid Network.

Speaker 10 (04:28):
Let's go Scott whatever the best.

Speaker 11 (04:32):
He's on it.

Speaker 10 (04:33):
Whatever it is.

Speaker 11 (04:34):
He's got the school, the fact, the fine.

Speaker 10 (04:37):
Now we gonna believes he's right on top.

Speaker 11 (04:39):
It is rolling best believe he's going putting it down
fronts Boston News to politics, with entertainment, just books.

Speaker 9 (04:48):
He's going.

Speaker 11 (04:56):
It's scolden conta. Yeah, he's She's built the question. No,
he's Roe.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Folks.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Coming up next on the inamural edition of Roland Martin
Unfilled or Drama on Capitol Hill as Senate Democrats and
Republicans clash on the first day of Trump's Supreme Court
nominee Brett Kavanaugh. Christian Clark, the Lawyer's Committee for Civil
Rights under Law, who was in the hearing room, will
join us live. A black woman who has mistakenly voted
in Texas and headed to prison, Yes, prison, She and

(05:53):
her attorney are going to join us live as well.
He has picked up the mantle of Doctor King's Poor
People's campaign. The Reverend doctor William Barber will join us
love to discuss that and why it's time to end
voter apathy, especially among black folks headed into the midterm election.
We'll also recap the homegoing celebration of a Rutha Franklin
and discuss why her family is blasting the eulogy delivered

(06:15):
by Atlanta pastor Jasper Williams and Junior, plus Colin Kaepernick
and Nike.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
They've got Conservatives in an uproll over.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Making him the face of Nike's thirtyth anniversary Up There,
Just Do It campaign, And of course black Twitter will
be on fire tonight for the first night of BT's
mini series on Bobby Brown. Folks, It's time to bring
the funk Roland Martin Unfiltered. Let's go, folks. A whole
lot has changed since that first show. Literally across the

(06:44):
street that's where we were, totally different show, new studio,
all that good stuff. It was a whole bunt of
stuff we could not afford seven years ago. So everything
looks a lot different now. But so it's been amazing
seven years. More than forty thousand people have joined our
Funk Fan Club Friday donations making it possible for us
to do this show. The show was launched with one

(07:05):
sponsored the American Federation of the State and Calmunicipal Employees
as a sponsor, of course, three hundred and fifty grand
of my own money, and we launched this thing, and
a lot of people said it was.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Not going to work.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
I remember the YouTube people when they were funding a
lot of efforts. They literally said, hey, we don't think
black news is gonna work, and I was like, all right,
we're gonna show y'all. So here we are seven years
later with one point eight five million followers in the
YouTube top one hundred podcasts every week but two weeks
since they launched that, and so I think, actually it's worked.
And even now seven years later, we still are the

(07:37):
only daily news show that centers African Americans in the country.
One of the first guests that we had that first
episode was Bishop William Barber, of course co coveni the
repairs of the Briefs Court People's campaign. He joins us
right now, Bishop, always lad to have you back again.
A lot of people said it wasn't gonna work, but
again we remain focused and faithful and here we are.

Speaker 8 (08:01):
But you know that song they said I wouldn't make it,
But you're still here today, brother, and not only just here,
but here making a difference. And I want to say
right off the bat, there's a thousand preachers out there
I know, particularly the benefit from what you do. I'm
gonna give a thousand dollars today, commit to that, and
a thousand do that. That's a million dollars. We have
got to understand how important what Rolling has done. Not

(08:25):
for himself. He could have done something else, but he
does this for the call for the people. I went
back to Day Rolling. I did two things. First of all,
I'm gonna put on a suit for the anniversary. You
know the little fly. I want to let you know
you ain't only one to get fly brother. And then
I said I want to go back to w BET
the boys. W DE boys said, look, you gotta have
black media to number one, to empower the black community,

(08:49):
because if not, you get beat down so much you
don't even believe you can do things. Number two to
counter anti blackness. To counter anti blackness, you do this
every day. And then number three, to humanize the people,
to humanize the struggle. But they are people of Rolling
that you've had on this show. Nobody else would have
had them on. They would not have had anywhere else

(09:12):
that they command. I remember when you brought the people
on from Cancer Alley. Now that you know they are
on other places. In fact that one of the ladies
who's one of the founders of Saint James the Fight
down that she's in Rome today meeting but potentially meeting
with the Pope. But she came on this shelf first.
And then the last thing is to ensure a diverse perspective.

(09:34):
It was black media, y'all that first told us that
COVID was airborne.

Speaker 7 (09:39):
That was the first paper.

Speaker 8 (09:40):
It was black media, it was it was rolling and
others telling us, wait a minute, it's something else going
on here. While some people were saying, well, black people
are just most acceptable to this particular what would later
be a pandemic all you were telling us that it's airborne.
You were warning us.

Speaker 7 (09:57):
And I want to.

Speaker 8 (09:58):
Believe that there are people who are live today who
would not be and there are people who died and
their lives would have never been honored. I remember one day, Roland,
you'll let me come on and talk about a sister
who lost twenty five members of her family a thirty
day time spirit in Mississippi because the Mississippi government would
not expand healthcare. I mean, nobody would have told that

(10:21):
sus the story. And so Doc, look, man, I'm so glad.
I was thinking about seven plus fours eleven. Eleven is
a prime number. A prime number is a number you
can't do nothing with, but take it.

Speaker 7 (10:33):
Take it.

Speaker 8 (10:35):
You can't divide it, you can't up. It's just a
prime number, eleven. The only way you get to it
is eleven time one. So Doc, thank you for being
a prime number.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
And what else jumps out? And I talked about this
doctor King's book, where do we Go from here? A
chaoso community, And he said that there were four institutions
prime to liberate Black America.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Any one of the four, he said, the Negro press.
And this is what he said.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
He said, he said, too many Negro news newspapers have
veered away from their traditional role as protest organs agitating
for social change and have turned to the sensational and
the conservative in place of the substantive and the militant.
And you know, I've had some people stop me and
they said, I had, you know, get ahead of brothers
who worked in the White House with a place and said, hey, man, I.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Really think you need to do.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
You need to add entertainment, you need to add sports
to get more eyeballs. And I said, let me tell
you what happens if you go down that pathway, then
that's what you're going to focus on, and news is
going to get left behind. And I said, I got
nothing against entertainment, nothing against sports. But if you look
at the YouTube top one hundred podcasts, nearly every African
American other than this show is sports and entertainment. And

(11:44):
I said, we got too much of that already. We
got to a place where that's all we focus on
is news and information.

Speaker 7 (11:52):
That's right, and use the sports figures to do that.

Speaker 8 (11:54):
See the difference is you will bring somebody like Spike
Lee on or somebody to talk about the issues, and
that's genius, brother, because we also have to make people
respect our artists and our sports figures. There's something other
than people that can just run with a ball or
dunk a ball, or they're acting that they actually have
a perspective on a platform.

Speaker 7 (12:15):
The other pieces of that role in You're so right.

Speaker 8 (12:17):
You know, people will tell us what we ought to do,
we ought to but guess what, sometimes those same folk
let them get in trouble.

Speaker 7 (12:25):
Who they run to, Oh all trusted.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
I get those text messages and phone calls.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
And to that point, there's a reason why in our
living room set I got mister b Hair Belafonte, who
had great respect for He's one of the pieces. I've
got James balling, but also Ida b Wells Barnett flanking him.
And so it's not that I don't believe that artists
are important, but they serve a vital role.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
And that's the thing that we have to understand.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
And I just think that when we're so fixated on
if Lebron or Michael Jordan was the goat, if we're
so fixated on the latest movie or the latest song,
then what stuff happens in Washington, DC, or state capitals,
county government, in city halls and school boards.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Then we go, oh my god, how do we not
know this?

Speaker 4 (13:11):
It's because our attention was diverted in somewhere else.

Speaker 7 (13:16):
That's right, somewhere else, and people use that to keep
it somewhere else.

Speaker 8 (13:21):
You know, they want even when our athletes, they want
to lock them down in contracts where they can't even
speak what needs to be spoken.

Speaker 7 (13:27):
That's not our history.

Speaker 8 (13:29):
Our history is that if you look at what Jackie
Robinson did, you remember when Kareem abdulg you barred James
and they got together and brought Muhammad ali In. That's
the true tradition of our work, is that we are
in a fight and a struggle, and we've been in
one for the soul of the democray, solar civilization, and

(13:51):
we don't have time to be one dimensional.

Speaker 7 (13:53):
We really don't. We need all hands on deck.

Speaker 8 (13:57):
I was telling somebody just the other day, every athlete,
every actor, every preacher, every person.

Speaker 7 (14:06):
You know. Trump did something the other day and they
kind of missed it.

Speaker 8 (14:09):
You talked about it when you said, listen, this man
now wants to take an executive order and undermine voting rights.
And I've looked at even some of the other news
they've not talked about that. They've not talked about that.
I understand the sensationalism and the necessary around for instance,
the Epstein files. But one of the things you do,

(14:32):
you can multitask. A lot of the other media they
can't multitask. They get stuck on one thing, one perspective,
and that's all they do. You have shown us over
these years that in fact, you have to multitask because
when it comes to black folk and poor people and
low waste folk and other people who are suffering in

(14:55):
this country, in this world, they don't face just one
problem at a time. They don't face one problem at
a time. They face many problems, and a lot of them.
We don't have to continue to.

Speaker 7 (15:07):
Face if we can organize our power.

Speaker 8 (15:11):
You know, you remember Morola when we had the conversation
when everybody was talking about what couldn't be done, and
we had the conversation about listen, did you all realize
that poor people, for instance, now and black people and
poor and lower East brown people control forty percent of
the electric people weren't talking about that? People say, what

(15:33):
is that true? Yes, it's true. Now the issue is
what do we do with that. I'm glad that you
push us, that you push the community, that you push
into the community and into the consciousness things that make
people say what what in the world, Because if we
don't have that kind of conscious shaking, then we're never

(15:55):
going to have the kind of community shifting that will
be necessary to face the challenges up today.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Also, where we are and you and not talking about
this a whole lot, and we know there are people
who are friends of ours, who are frat brothers of
ours who hate this.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
We also got to have black accountability.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
It's a lot of people who say they represent black
interests yet don't like to be challenged on what they're
actually doing. And my philosophy has always been the same.
If you do good, I'm gonna talk about you. If
you do bad, I'm gonna talk about you. At the
end of day, I'm gonna talk about you. And so
we've got to have accountability of folks who are out
there representing the interests of black folks, who meet at

(16:35):
the White House or state capitals, over the Congress and
then say, Okay, you promise you were.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Going to do this, What have you actually done?

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Is easy to plant, is easy to plan an event,
plan a protest, plan a march, But I'm always like, okay,
what we do in.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
The day after, and then the day after and the
day after.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
And I think that's also where we have to be
part of what King talked about in Duba talked about it,
and Martin de Lay and he talked about it, and
i'da be Wells Barnett and Frederick Douglass and Robert Abbott
and John Sinstack and Louis Martin and all the pioneers
in black on media. It was also holding black leadership accountable,
saying are you representing the interests of the people and

(17:16):
not yourself.

Speaker 7 (17:18):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 8 (17:19):
You know.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
I'll tell you something funny.

Speaker 8 (17:21):
Rolling, my team that puts together media some years ago,
had called me in said we've got you going on Roller.
I said, I can't go on Rolling the night and
they said why. I said, cause I haven't figured out
the end product. They said, well, just going to talk
about the beginning. Get the headline. I said, you don't understand.

(17:41):
He said, Rolling your friend. I said, you still don't understand.
He not gonna let me get away with a headline
on this show. He's gonna ask me, what is this
going to do? What's the end result. I'm not going
on this show until we figured that out. Now, if
y'all can figure that out in the next twelve hours,
then I'm going to show tomorrow. If not, then you
all just wait till days and we get because the

(18:01):
brother is not playing and that's what we need. This
deal of getting a headline and then moving the hell
on is not what we need in these times. Our
people don't need to be played with and toyed with.
Times are too serious in this civilization. And they say,
I remember one time that somebody was on your show

(18:23):
and they said something like Trump is a racers and
you said, and what else I mean? Because you were like, Okay,
you said that, but what does that mean? Where are
you going with that? Where does that get you? What
else are you gonna not deal with? The authoritarian is
the neo fascism, the policies, the policies, Okay, what are
you going to do in the action relationship to policy?

Speaker 7 (18:43):
How is that gonna happen?

Speaker 8 (18:45):
And if we don't have that roller, we'll have the
tendency even we used to talk about it in black
preaching where people have a lot of gravy in no
substance and no meat, And that's not the time we're in, brother,
So I want a person to thank you, Doc for
making folks know, even me, that if you're going to
go on the show, you better have your stuff ready.

(19:06):
You better be able to ask the answer the question,
and you better be able to talk about how you're
going to start something and sustain it and keep it
going until real change takes play.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Last point here, I put this graphic up on social
media today. Send it out where as part of our anniversary,
our goal is to get folks to give a million
dollars between now and the end of the year. Let
me know when your team has that pastoral graphic ready
so we can push that as well. But the point
there late, we got two new shows. We're launching a

(19:37):
daily show, a weekly business show. We want to launch
a health show, and we want to be focused in
twenty twenty six to travel this country doing the show
in town halls from battleground states. You got critical Senate
races in Georgia, in North Carolina. You got a brother
running for governor in Nevada, you got a brother running

(19:57):
for governor in Michigan. It's a lot of different racist
and what I say is that that and you emphasize
this I do as well. We can't just tell folks, hey,
we need y'all to vote. No, we have to literally
be on the ground, touching people and forming, educating and lightening,
but also organizing and mobilizing because black too much Black
power is sitting at home, untapped, unused, and we've got

(20:21):
to be able to reach these folks to change what's going.

Speaker 8 (20:23):
On Black power in this next election, in a so
called off here election, if we go on instead of off,
if we don't listen to what the pundits say, Well,
you know, in the midterms is off here. If we
say no year is an off here for us because
we have to stay and that everything we have fought
for and.

Speaker 7 (20:43):
Are fighting for is under attack.

Speaker 8 (20:46):
If we and I say this everywhere, if just sixty
five percent of black folk that are already registered would
vote consistently, we could flip the entire political strategy, our attitudes,
and atmosphere in this country.

Speaker 7 (21:04):
So that's exactly what we're gonna do.

Speaker 8 (21:05):
We're gonna put that great We've already sent it out
to hundreds of thousands of people. Those of you that
are listening tonight, we want you to grab it from
our sight, grab it from here, continue to push it out.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
You know, let's push this way over a million dollars.

Speaker 8 (21:20):
I want to challenge it these a thousand people to
give a thousand dollars, particular dollar of those of us
who are clergy, who are pastors, who could do that
for this effort, for this work, for what Roland is
doing on our behald. The brother is not doing this
just for Roland Martin. You don't take on this kind
of stress and even criticism just for yourself. He literally

(21:44):
is saying I will not be quiet, and y'all know
when he says bring the funk, we all know what
that means.

Speaker 7 (21:51):
That's not just about a dance floor.

Speaker 8 (21:53):
That is about that I'm getting in the middle of
this arena, and we're not planning because our people or
not to be played with, and the times are too
serious and the issues are too important, and our power
is too great for it not to be unleashed and
used the way it could be.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Indeed, Misson William Barber, appreciate it. Thanks for support the
prayers and repairs with the Brief for People's campaign. Has
been a consistent supporter of this show, putting your money
where your mouth is, and so we appreciate that. It's
a lot more work to do. I know you've got
a plan to catch. I appreciate you being on the
seventh anniversary show. Thank you, my brother who six Yes, sir,

(22:32):
Thanks a bunch folks, gotta go to break. I got
a pan on the read of the chat. We'll be
right back on this seventh anniversion roland Mark unfilter the
fourth Anniverse for the Black Star Network.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Folks back in the moment.

Speaker 12 (22:57):
I love you as I am so absolutely committed to
you because of your dedication to the Black community, to
him this country, and I want you to know that
you're doing the kind of work that we don't get
in other places, and I appreciate it.

Speaker 13 (23:15):
I will support you.

Speaker 14 (23:17):
I'm available anytime that I can get on the program,
because you deserve to have the response and respect of
everybody because of the work attention.

Speaker 15 (23:34):
Next, on a Balance Life here on Blackstar Network, we're
talking what it means to be a balanced young adult.

Speaker 13 (23:41):
And turning twenty one.

Speaker 15 (23:42):
I know twenty one is one of those ages where
you think you're grown, you can do whatever you want.

Speaker 13 (23:47):
The law says that you can, but what.

Speaker 15 (23:49):
Are you packing and your twenty one year old who
kid that will allow you.

Speaker 13 (23:53):
To not only survive, but to thrive.

Speaker 16 (23:55):
You have every right to make whatever decision that you
want to make, okay, because you're grown. Don't go out
here and do something and then want to come back
and expect somebody else to clean it or for you.

Speaker 15 (24:06):
That's all this week on a Balanced Life with Doctor
Jackie here on Black Star Network.

Speaker 17 (24:22):
Thank you, dear brother, and I would hope that you
would continue to get the message to the masses as
you do there are many places where I'm not welcome,
but I know that I'm always welcome, and you always
treat people with a great degree of dignity and respect.
And it means a lot to me to know that

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we can get a message out to the masses.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
So thank you for helping us do that.

Speaker 10 (25:12):
Verse three.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
You see, that's right, the cussing reci of course.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Michael Brown, former member of the DNC Finance Committee. And
don't bother that little youth group he's a member of. Uh,
that's right, that's called the fly away signal.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
That's what that is.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Of course, my alpha brother, doctor mastaf for Santiago Belli,
the only fraternity here, a former Senior Advisor for Environmental.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Justice at the e p A.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Also Eugene Craig, CEO X Factor Media, Inc. And he
is probably Trump cusses him out more than he cusses
me out. Randy Bryant, entrepreneur, author, never said twenty five
phrases you should never ever see to keep your job
and friends. Shockingly, she's actually in the country. Doctor Greg Carr,
Department of Baffore American Studies, Howard University hosted the Black

(26:09):
Table on the Black Star Network and of course, somebody.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Who we first met.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
We actually fought at a movie screening Twelve Years of Slave,
and they turned to a Twitter beef and then that's
how he got on the shelf. So, y'all, there's no lie.
I'm telling y'all this is this is no lie. Plus
Greg was on our first ever roll up in Unfiltered
seven years ago.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yep, I got the video. I'm gonna play it in
a little bit.

Speaker 18 (26:33):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
And of course that Linda Sarsour is here.

Speaker 7 (26:36):
Linda.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Course, Linda's of course an activists. She's been working on
the ground all over the country and the world. And yeah,
she probably has more people cousing her out than I do.
So glad to have everybody here. Let's get right into it. Well,
first of all, I go to the story, so I'll
start this way. So probably i'll start with Greg. So

(26:57):
Greg was here on the first show, and again we
told this story, y'all. So I was moderating a panel. Uh,
they had a screen of twelve Years of Slave, and
so a sister asked me a question and I said,
I'm a free black man, and she went home, you
ain't free. I was like, hell, you think, And so
then she started going at it, and I was like,
let's go. And so Greb's on the front row and

(27:19):
so Graham started talking, so le we go social media.
I was like, oh yeah, you ain't gonna shit here.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
Gred Car was like.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
I was like, I'm like, bring his ass on the
shows and people like you ain't never heard of the car?
Like no, all these how the people?

Speaker 2 (27:38):
And I was like, I'm on the show if you
want to go.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
That's how great time on the show.

Speaker 8 (27:45):
You said, I skirt.

Speaker 11 (27:48):
Next morning.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
He fights.

Speaker 6 (27:52):
Everybody was fighting about.

Speaker 7 (27:57):
You know, I've known that young lady.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
She was team she's my student, pildlleague. We hired wow
and I never let they pass. I would not be
down here.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Roland Martin she was so mad.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
When you see free, she said, ain't gonna be free.
It's the president that's your conflict. And then you know
he's gonna argue with everybody that my kids.

Speaker 19 (28:18):
So I.

Speaker 6 (28:21):
Was like, bring that instead of let's go. Roland never
said that's where I happened, that little green room at
TV one, right, Oh, yeah, that.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Was at one on one that one of the Honkos
station that was Industry News channel.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
Yeah, Joe Joe Scarborough and be sitting in that little room.
Y'all remember that little room. What's the guy that Bob Woodward?
They all be sitting around. Roland come through and they
all stopped.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Hey, rolland what's going on back?

Speaker 6 (28:45):
So y'all know him for real, y'all put him on
your should.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Be before.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
All at one place. So let me go to Reese's.
Let me tell y'all. So when Rey first came on,
recy was trying to be annoy commentation. I was like,
I'm normal. So I had the first couple of times
I was like, listen.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
I ain't call your as so you trying to be
like everybody. I was like the person who I saw
on Twitter? Need you bring in here?

Speaker 5 (29:15):
Period?

Speaker 4 (29:15):
She's like really, I'm like, yes, I don't need you
trying something like the rest of that. She told I
was recently, don't do that.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
We wanna do it?

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Like, oh, I can cuss.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
I was like, the show called unfiltereds and so she
has used the word MF at least seven thousand.

Speaker 20 (29:33):
On the show for five years.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Seven thousand sounds about right, yeah, And.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
People were like, I can't I can't believe you're putting
that cussing woman on the show, and I was like,
I own this ship, so what's your problem? And then
of course I got to see his extit radio show.

Speaker 10 (29:49):
All that indeed, and then and.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Who people they weren't bothered, and I was like, I
don't really care what y'all think. So they still have
the running the mouth. Because the whole point, whether it
was at TV wanna hear, the whole point was to
create a platform for non traditional.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Voices who would never get called by the other networks.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
They wouldn't they.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I mean, I was, let's see there for six years.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
I knew. It took me four and a half years
to get there, so I knew how they played the game,
who they put on. And so the whole point is
how do you expand how do you expand the universe?
And I remember at TV one there were people who
was they were they were like, oh man, uh they
it was the uh which I think it was sixteen.
All these man they hired.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
All your people.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
I was like, yo, Jeff Zuffe can hire everybody. I'm
gonna go find a whole new crop. And then they
go hire all of them. I'm gonna go find a
whole new crop. So that was the whole point, because
I knew the game that they played in how they
gate keep as to who they would put on the
air to speak on various issues.

Speaker 21 (31:07):
But that was all three networks, because that's all of them,
all of them. I mean, there isn't There isn't a
black person probably doing commentary right now on cable on
this and didn't come through the Roland Martin ecosystem over
the last decade, whether what Fox News, whether it's the
folk of MSBC, the focal and every last one you
put came through either the news one now or or
Roland Martin filter man.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
That's is understanding in terms of how this whole thing worked.
Glad to have Michael here because the long as he
couldn't get his damn computer to work, it was like,
you know, ain't see I mean all you o Maigan
was coming out the lighting the NT the laptop was like,
let just bring your ass and we can't what was
to Michael?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
What was going on?

Speaker 22 (31:49):
Well after Hannity and O'Reilly fired me, you picked me up,
and I appreciate that.

Speaker 23 (31:55):
It's very kind of you. So we had some technology issues.
I don't know if I know.

Speaker 22 (32:00):
Your staff, my frat brother in the back that everybody's
so angry with me.

Speaker 23 (32:04):
So my apologies. Congratulations on seven years you and your team.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Congratulations, very appreciated. Mustaf of course the green Man. I'm
always talking about the environmental stuff.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
And again the perfect example.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
Again, so many other shows, we're not talking about black
people in the environment.

Speaker 23 (32:24):
That's true, yep.

Speaker 24 (32:25):
I mean you gave an opportunity to put a spotlight
on what was happening across the country, and not only
did you do it here in the studio, but you
also came out to the community to make sure that
they knew that they were valued and heard, so that
people could actually see what's going on. And that's the
difference because all those other shows never showed up in community,
So how do you really know what's going on? How
can you tell the story properly and make sure that

(32:47):
it's authentic if you're not showing up. But you also
expanded because it wasn't just about the environment and climate.
It was also about how does it impact housing, how's
it talk about jobs?

Speaker 23 (32:56):
How do we do all these.

Speaker 24 (32:57):
Other types of things because our community are holistic, so
we've got to be able to address it that way
and you gave the platform for that, not only for
myself but for others also, because that's incredibly important to
making sure that other voices who are out there doing
the work also get the shine.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Got to Brandon, how you get here?

Speaker 19 (33:16):
So this is what's crazy about it.

Speaker 25 (33:17):
I don't even remember. You were doing a show like
on de I or something I can't remember, and I
was doing shows like with the Normal Like you said,
the Normal stations, I was on there talking appropriately.

Speaker 10 (33:29):
I did a show for DEI. You completely forgot about me.

Speaker 25 (33:31):
Then I said, I'm so sick of talking about DEI
in this appropriate way because I was getting pissed off
because they weren't doing anything. And so I went off
one day on a video and you DM me and
you said I.

Speaker 10 (33:42):
Want you on the show. And I'm like, oh my gosh,
good to see you again. You look, I don't know
who you.

Speaker 25 (33:46):
Are, but I but I remembered on the show, and
I always I kept telling people I want to be
on Roland Martin Show because I want to be able
to talk about it in a real way instead of
be doing this bullshit that I was doing on all
these other networks that I was the person they would
call because I wanted to make change, but I was
also wanted to keep talking, right, so you have to

(34:08):
talk a certain way, and I was playing the game the.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Wait reson was trying to talk on this show.

Speaker 10 (34:12):
All right, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Right?

Speaker 10 (34:14):
That's what I was doing. And then you.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Okay twice because.

Speaker 10 (34:18):
The second time I was like, don't do it, you
too automatically do it.

Speaker 25 (34:23):
And then Carol, Carol, I got a note from your producer,
Carol her wonderful self.

Speaker 10 (34:27):
It's like, come on and yeah, haven't got rid of
me since.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
All right, so let me tell you all, Linda, So
this twenty anniversary media man March. All right, so we'll
all three of y'all stage hosts that day. All right,
So it was you, Timika, Tamika, A Calm and yourself.
So I'm interviewing three of them afterwards. So I was like,
all right, miss it, now this is over, I said,
So here's about to happen. I said, I'm about to

(34:51):
put all three of y'all on times on the morning
show on TV. I said, let me be real clear.
When I call your ass, you better ask the phone.
I said, if I called you had seven oh five,
I got to go live in ten minutes. I need
you to be ready, I said, because I said you
have to. I said, your voice has got to be
out there in terms of leadership, I said, be ready.

(35:15):
When I called, they were like okay. That conversation happened,
And that was the whole point because again again, so
the whole point is being intentional with how you use
media and what voice is to put out, knowing how
other people were going to freeze folks out or drive

(35:35):
a different narrative.

Speaker 26 (35:37):
I mean, you always did that for us rolling And
that's why I'm here all the way in Washington, DC
to say congratulations on seven years. You've been someone that
has reaffirmed the movement. You've seen the people outside that
risk their lives every day for the things we believe in.
You were one of the few people that started helping
us to put Rihanna Taylor's name on an international level.

Speaker 19 (35:58):
You put her voice out there. She was murdered in March.

Speaker 26 (36:00):
No one knew about her in March, no one knewing
about her in April, no one knew about her in May,
and then you helped us put her name out there
so people knew her name all over this country.

Speaker 19 (36:08):
And ever since.

Speaker 26 (36:09):
You know, you've given me an opportunity. As you know,
mainstream media don't like people like me. They like to
talk about my people without my people right now, and
you have always said, no, you got to let the
people speak for themselves. You've given us that opportunity in
this last very dark two years to talk about our perspective,
about what's happening and what we want.

Speaker 19 (36:29):
So I appreciate you, and happy anniversary.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Appreciate I'm gonna give you all Hue story. So the
Women's March, they having that big thing in Detroit, and
so they asked me to speak, and they were haters
who were like, no, he shouldn't speak, and to make
a common lind Of be like, oh y'all can sit
y'all asses down, he gonna speak. So when I got
up there and spoke, I said, because it's like three thousand,
five thousand, I said, I said, listen, wherever five thousand

(36:52):
women are gathered.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
I want to be. But I'm particized.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
The white women who got upset come after that was sexist.
They were going crazy and the sisters like, listen, I'm
gonna out to be quiet.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I need to get my photo. Can y'all just move
to healthy white But so why they were going off,
I said, well.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
First of all, I need I said, no, no, I
live run their mouths, I said, because what y'all don't
understand is the Montgomery bus boycots started with the women.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
So I was like, so they had so again, these.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
White women viewed the comment as sexist, but not understanding
the history of black protest moving and how women were
at the center of it. So they were sitting here
looking at it as as a sexist thing, having no
understanding of joe Anne Robinson or any of the sisters
in Montgomery and how they started. And that also was

(37:44):
part of the problem with the Women's with the Women's March,
not understanding how certain folks didn't want men involved as
supposed to say no, no, who got our back? Who
will us?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
As opposed to who fight them?

Speaker 26 (37:56):
I mean, it's the same set of white women who
were fighting for voting rights and got their voting rights
and black women didn't get it till about nineteen sixty five.
So that's the kind of people we were working with.
You know, this is the big things that we went
through in the Women's Mark with leadership. I mean Our
leader was Tamika Mallory, who's an incredible black woman and
an organizer, activist that and people didn't like to see
people in these positions who are powerful and influential and

(38:19):
also eloquent and able to articulate the positions.

Speaker 19 (38:23):
Of the people that we were from.

Speaker 26 (38:25):
And Tamika made it very clear she said, any movement
that doesn't include her black son is not a movement
she wants to be a part of. So just because
you have a woman led movement, don't mean that you're
only fighting for women. We're fighting for our communities and
our families. And that's something that unfortunately, white women have
a hard time understanding, which is probably why we're in
the situation that we're in right now.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
And one of the reasons that Women's March is situated
non existent is because by running y'all off, they literally
ran off leadership. And I have no idea what the
hell they're doing now. So all of that organizing, all
of that data collection, all that completely went to waste
because they did not want to follow color as leaders.

Speaker 7 (39:01):
Now.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
One of the reason I wanted to have Linda here.
I saw this on social media the other day and
I kept warning y'all this was gonna happen. See if
y'all watched this show. I kept telling y'all about all
of these white folks and the birth rates of birth
rate of white people. I told y'all, I talked about
my book White Fear, and so everything I put in
my book, y'all, unfortunately has come true. And even though

(39:23):
these networks didn't want to book me on discuss it
and they still want to discuss the reality of white
fear in this country is still here. So y'all may
have seen in the last couple of weeks how white
folks like Charlie Kirk and others, by following Elon Musk
all of a sudden now are attacking immigration in Europe.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
And this video was put out. Watch this, guys, this
is Tyres and twenty twenty bus.

Speaker 23 (39:52):
They're lying upon the numbers. This is in your corns.

Speaker 7 (40:17):
I make soon.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Let me soon to you to your neighborhood near you.
So whatyall to understand what's going on? Elon Musk tweets
a lot about the declining birth rates around the world.
You're at Connor McGregor, who was convicted of sex who
was actually found guilty of sexual assault, hanging out at
the White House, complaining about the indigenous people in Ireland

(40:40):
losing their cities because of immigration. Now understand what you're
now seeing that actually has been happening in Europe for
the last ten to fifteen years. I was talking about
it then when folks who are not paying attention to it,
and so here's what they all angry about. They are
angry about African immigrants, Muslim immigrants in London, in England,

(41:03):
in France, in Germany, in Italy, in Ireland and all
of these white European countries. Now why are they mad?
Whose fault is that white people stop screwing? It's just
a fact the white birth rate has been declining for
the past thirty years.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
I showed y'all a chart on this show. The only
reason Germany's.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Economy is still where it is, it's not because of
white Germans. It's because of immigration. I keep trying to
explain to people here, especially all these Ados FBA b one,
people who know nothing about history. You cannot have a
future if you do not have GDP. You have to

(41:46):
have people who are living and working and contributing to
an economy in order for your GDP to remain where
it is. So the United States GDP is thirty trillion dollars,
China's GDP is nineteen trillion. White as China people, they remember,
they were saying for a decade, China's going to should
pass us.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
But China made a huge.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Mistake with their one child rule because they said were overpopulated.
They were not that great at math, because they were
not counting what's going to happen in thirty years when
a sixty year old person is ninety and they don't
reach ninety unfortunately become an ancestor. So what happened, China

(42:27):
had to get rid of their one child rule and
go to a two child rule because they didn't have
enough people to replace the folks who were passing. And
so all these European countries are pissed off with black immigrants,
pissed off with Muslim immigrants. But let's be clear, those
countries will not exist in the next ten to twenty

(42:48):
years the way they are now if they do not
replace population. But the racism we're seeing, Linda, this is
all tied to racism, Charlie Kirk. Between these things, el
must tweeing these things now all of a sudden, and
all of these different conservatives are not talking about, Oh,
this could be us. Well, guess what at Springfield, Ohio.
What happens when the white folks leave and die? And

(43:10):
then they were crapping on the Haitian immigrants, and now
the Haitian immigrants are booking Springfield, Ohio is gonna they complain,
they're about to lose jobs, lose housing, lose all sorts
of things because they want to run the black folks off.
This is the latest anti black, anti Muslim racism of
Maga white supremacists.

Speaker 7 (43:29):
That's right.

Speaker 19 (43:30):
I mean everything you said.

Speaker 26 (43:31):
And if the white people in Europe don't want our
people to stop exploiting our wealth in our countries, stop
supporting war, stop bombing people in places like at all.
So when you get an influx of Adaki refugees or
Syrian refugees, or you're getting folks coming up from Africa
for better opportunities, oftentimes the European countries and the West,
which includes us, are part of the reason why they

(43:53):
come here. Immigrants, where you are born is where you
want to be. I promise you if you asked any
immigrant if they could live in dignity in the places
that they are from. You want to be with your culture,
with your language, with your food, with the land that
your ancestors, you.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Know what's called.

Speaker 19 (44:08):
Yeah, that's your home.

Speaker 26 (44:09):
Like my Palestinian parents would love to live in Palestine,
Free Palestine, and we promise you our one way ticket
over there.

Speaker 10 (44:16):
So that's part of it's what you said. And also
they have no self.

Speaker 26 (44:20):
Awareness of why there's an influx of refugees comes in.
They had Afghan refugees. You had a twenty one year
war in Afghanistan, apparently one you fought with trillions of
American taxpayer dollars to fight the terrorists, which were the Taliban.

Speaker 19 (44:34):
And then y'all withdrew and guests with the people that.

Speaker 26 (44:36):
Are in charge in Afghanistan, the same people you told
us you was fighting for twenty one years.

Speaker 19 (44:41):
So there's no self awareness.

Speaker 26 (44:42):
Even Central American immigrants, the exploitation we've done in Central
American countries, what we've done in Mexico and Ecuador. In Guatemala,
there's no self awareness. Trusts me, Guatemalan wants to be
in Guatemala if they could raise their children in safety
and insecurity. But even you know you know, from the
days of the drug war here, the warren drugs. There's
many documentaries. It's not just me were our own government

(45:05):
was involved, you know what I'm saying in the drug war,
and so these cartels that have come up, and anyway,
I just watched these people.

Speaker 19 (45:11):
And I'm like, I don't even know what they're talking about.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
But no, the reason I'm laughing.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
You got all of these immigrants who are coming into
France who speak French.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
I wonder why, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
Maybe it's called colonization. So if you're mad they're coming
to France, maybe you should have been pissed the French
were in their countries.

Speaker 27 (45:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (45:30):
Absolutely.

Speaker 28 (45:31):
You know, it's interesting listening to this conversation about how
everyone came to be here.

Speaker 20 (45:36):
And you know, you don't know this. This is the
first time I'm going to tell you this.

Speaker 28 (45:41):
But you know, I came from doing all the shows
MSNBC and BBC and Al Jazeera. I was one of
these few black faces talking about foreign policy and national security.

Speaker 20 (45:53):
And reci is how I got to be on this show.

Speaker 28 (45:57):
And when I started doing more black shows, a lot
of people in my world were kind of like side
eyeing me. But what happened was when I would come
back with data from reading a comment, talking to people
on rec Show, being able to talk about what people

(46:19):
are responding to in real time. Then all of a sudden,
I became valuable in a very different way. I got
invited into the National Security Council messaging space, you know,
with all the top you know, I called this like
the Gang of thirty three or thirty four, where you know,
you have the Michael mcfalls XCIA directors, and I'm in

(46:39):
this space.

Speaker 20 (46:40):
I am the only black person in that space.

Speaker 28 (46:43):
And every single time I had something to say, they
didn't necessarily execute, but they listened. Because I was the
only one doing black media. I wasn't valuable on doing
MSNBC and all those shows because pretty much I was
saying the same things that other political scientists were saying.
You know, I wasn't really saying anything different. I might
have had a little bit more personality and my outfit

(47:04):
would fly, you know, but you know what I'm saying
that red lip, But essentially I wasn't really saying anything
very different. But it is when I started doing Roland Martin,
doing rec Show and doing other black media is when
my value increased in a very different way behind the
scenes because what they were getting wrong in the belt Way,

(47:26):
I'm saying, that's not working with black people in Texas,
that's not working with black people in Louisiana. It's just
not working. And so that was something that meant a
great deal to me in my world, and even still
to this day. You know, I walk into these spaces
and I still have a different level of cachet because
I do black media, I have a different perspective, I

(47:49):
have different data, I talk to different people, And it's
so interesting how I have this concept where you know,
as a black woman, to be visible and invisible at
the same time, how you can have a seat at
the proverbial table.

Speaker 20 (48:06):
But are people really listening?

Speaker 4 (48:08):
Right?

Speaker 28 (48:08):
So I can walk into these spaces and I have
a certain level of swag and cachet that I carry,
But at the same time, are you really listening to
what I'm saying? Because when I think about a lot
of the things that happened towards the end of the
administration with a lot of foreign policy things, I know
quite clearly what I was saying that was not working,

(48:30):
but no one was listening right, And I cannot tell
you how many times since then, and I'm not gonna
name names, have people have come up to me and said, Nola,
I wish we would have listened.

Speaker 20 (48:41):
I am not kidding. And it's humbling, it's infuriating.

Speaker 28 (48:47):
And the one thing that I want to say is,
once we are out of this Maya, once we're out
of this mess, I see that finger.

Speaker 20 (48:56):
I hope, I hope that we aren't.

Speaker 28 (49:01):
Just decorative at the table, that people actually listen and execute,
because our lived experiences and perspectives are different and valuable.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Jamie, what's happening is and again people have to pay attention.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
What we are seeing is all by desire.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
When it comes to MAGA, when it comes to the
Heritage Foundation, this is about whiteness, and so this is
about so at Peter Thiel's conference nat con Okay, Missouri,
US Senator Eric Schmidt, this is somebody who came to
and trace his folk to the mayflile.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
We played this yesterday.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
This is literally what he said in a twenty five
minute speech at that conference. And how all of these
white conservatives clapped when he said this.

Speaker 29 (49:45):
The Continental Army soldiers dying of frostbite at Valley Forge,
the pilgrims struggling to survive in the hard winter soil
of Plymouth. The Pioneer is striking out from Missouri for
the wild and dangerous frontier. The outnumbered can settlers repelling
wave after wave of Indian war Band attacks from beyond
the stockade walls. All of them will be astonished to

(50:07):
hear that they were only fighting for a proposition. They
believed they were fighting for a nation, a homeland for
themselves and their descendants. They fought, they bled, they struggled,
They died for us. They built this country for us. America,
in all its glory, is their gift to us, handed

(50:29):
down across the generations. It belongs to us. It's our birthright,
it's our heritage, our destiny. If America is everything and everyone,
then it is nothing and no one at all. When
they tear down our statues and monuments, mock our history,

(50:49):
and insult our traditions, they're attacking our future as well
as our past. By changing the stories we tell about ourselves.
They believe they can build a new America with the
new myths, new people. But America doesn't.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Belong to them. It belongs to us.

Speaker 29 (51:09):
It's our home, it's a heritage and trusted to us
by our ancestors. It's a way of life that is
ours and only ours. If we disappear, then America too
will cease to exist.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Senior Genie is very interesting because that's exactly the mantra
Republican Party. That is pure whiteness. That's white supremacy, it's
white nationalism. And what they want to do. Even when
Mitch McConnell says this reminds me of nineteen thirties, America's
got to remember Hitler sent his people to the United
States to study Jim Crow and brought it back to

(51:45):
Nazi Germany. And so what they want to do is
exact same things. So when the when these white folks
in America are going to France and complaining about these
Muslim and black immigrants, this is nothing.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
It's the exact same thing.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
They want to extend whiteness and re claimed it globally.

Speaker 7 (52:02):
And this is the thing, right, So.

Speaker 21 (52:04):
I say at the time that magas built on the
foundation of a Steve King, It's built on the foundation
of Andy Biggs, It's built on the foundation of Papulchanon,
It's built in the foundation of white conservatives. That may
have been considered fringe for a very long time. And
then Donald Trump comes in and puts a happy smile,

(52:25):
a jet, a helicopter, personal security detail in front of it,
makes it look really presidential, and then you know, riots
that into the White House. So I mean it's literally
been the the putting lipstick on the pig to you know,
go through the Sarah paling era that you know that
that timeline goes through. That's what we're dealing with. And
now they're very naked about it. Peter Tiele has funded

(52:47):
many many organizations over the years and.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Built white South African Peter t White South.

Speaker 21 (52:51):
African Peter tiil some organizations that you know disagree with
him and lost that funding, and some organizations that leaned
into it, and uh, you know he's still funding it and.

Speaker 6 (53:00):
Working through them.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
And but you you know, one more time in these rooms, this.

Speaker 21 (53:04):
Is where you get the naked, honest truth where they
feel free to speak, you know, as they would if
they're in the back cloak room.

Speaker 7 (53:10):
On the hill.

Speaker 21 (53:11):
Now now we've got that cover, I get the hot
out here and being the greatest Republican to walk on
the set, and the one that's still standing Andrew Lee
got me here, you know, told Roland and Jackie Hey
book my guy. We had the Black and Blue segment,
and if from there had me every Monday morning, which
then I guess led to that infamous Umark cleft that
still goes spiraling every two months.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
So Michael here was interesting. I'm sitting there looking at
Chuck Schumer's feed. I don't see nothing about their shit,
and see this is this to me is a huge
problem for Democrats. If see leadership right now is like, oh,
you know, no, we should be focusing on food prices

(53:55):
and gas prices and whatever.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
So there's other stuff is a distraction. They even think
the stuff it's a distraction.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
But what's crazy is if you are the Senate minority
leader and you can't call out that racist speech, you
should not be in leadership that part.

Speaker 7 (54:12):
But what would he call that? What was she would call?

Speaker 23 (54:16):
Well, clearly, you're right.

Speaker 22 (54:20):
But the one thing we haven't we being Democrats, haven't
understood yet is our messaging. Clearly that has not worked.
The democracy message doesn't connect. It sounds great, obviously, but
it doesn't connect. And it's hard for white leaders in
my party to call white supremacy what it is. If

(54:43):
you have poor white people in America, if you have
poor white people in America that have no problem losing
their farms, as long as the white supremacy agenda is
first priority, it's hard to make any argument about anything else.
So once they had somebody like the guy who's at

(55:03):
sixteen hundred Pennsylvania now saying it's okay to give speeches
like that in public and giving people the ability to
commit racism right in your face. And if your party
leaders don't really do anything about it, it's hard to
message that. And white supremacy is. You know, when I
the reason I got to your show, thank goodness. I mean,

(55:27):
besides me whipping you up on the golf course, besides that.

Speaker 23 (55:30):
I know you how, Besides that I know you how,
besides that.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Point I know you.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
U can't outshit me or I'll golf me.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Go right ahead.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
I don't know why you add, don't I.

Speaker 23 (55:43):
Have a bad achilles so I can't okay.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
That's why you can't finish your Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 22 (55:51):
So when I got into it with an culture on
Fox on the Handity Show, and my days were numbered
after our confrontation and.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Sounded like me and Mika, I want to Joe.

Speaker 23 (56:02):
Oh yeah, well yeah you did have that, did you.

Speaker 22 (56:06):
But when you're on those kind of platforms, yes, you
have to conduct yourself differently than being unfiltered relative to
your language, but that doesn't mean you have to take
a step back from your position and your argument. And
a lot of folks get on there and they're so
happy to be there. For example, they throw these contracts
at you. I just didn't want a contract for Fox.

(56:28):
I couldn't do it. My mother told me not to
do it, so I didn't do it. Yes, thank you
very much. So when you take that, it gives you
the freedom to not worry about consequences. And so when
Anne took her microphone off and got mad at Sean
for not basically defending her, I wasn't attacking her.

Speaker 23 (56:47):
I was attacking her position. My days became number O.

Speaker 22 (56:50):
Riley had kicked me off a long time ago because
he kept talking about Jesse Jackson and I didn't like it.

Speaker 23 (56:55):
So you have to go on with principle and not
any and it's hard to do.

Speaker 6 (57:01):
Randy.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
I'm sitting there looking I don't see nothing for Bernie Sanders, right,
I don't see nothing from Elizabeth Warren and.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
I'm like, what y'all want to wear?

Speaker 4 (57:09):
That speech actually was given and just no, I actually
sent a text to want of Schumer's people.

Speaker 10 (57:15):
I know you did. I'm sure you did.

Speaker 25 (57:17):
The problem is is that everything goes under the umbrella
of white supremacy, and it is very difficult, particularly to
have white people who benefit, who are the greatest benefactors
of white supremacy, go against it.

Speaker 10 (57:28):
And so that's what we saw, like you were just talking.

Speaker 25 (57:30):
About in the last election, and things white women to
tell white women, although you know they suffer for it
when we talk about the birth rate. That's why they're
losing their rights over their entire bodies because they have
to get the numbers up. They don't have rights, but
they still get those little bit of benefits and they
cling on to it.

Speaker 10 (57:46):
And this is why we see other groups that seem
not to get it.

Speaker 25 (57:51):
If we just act a certain way, if we just behave,
we will get let into this.

Speaker 10 (57:56):
Arena of white supremacy.

Speaker 25 (57:57):
And if they can't see it now you're not going
to get it that you're not going to get it.
And so I believe that the people who are in
places of power, they definitely. That power is fueled by
white supremacy, and so they're hard. It's difficult for them
to speak up against it.

Speaker 10 (58:13):
They're fearful to speak up against it.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
Mustaph for the thing here is is here when you
listen to Schmid say this, Missouri plans on jerry banning
their state. They want to Jerry Mander Emmanuel Cleaver and
Wesley Bell out of the congressional seats, two African Americans
in Missouri. They wanted to be all Republican. And so
what these Democrats don't understand is what Schmid said that

(58:37):
literally is Republican party policy. So when he kept saying us,
he literally said our ancestors meant this for them and
their descendants and basically said this wasn't meant but none
of y'all, right, who now sins come? Now we all
knew that was the case anyway, but that's literally what
they're saying. When you're saying, so all y'all black people, yeah, Latinos,

(58:59):
y'all Asians, Agian of Americans, this shit.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Wasn't for you, right.

Speaker 24 (59:04):
We probably should remember the words of Malcolm X when
he said he talked about those who are being oppressed
and the folks also on the other side of the
equation who are doing the oppressing. And we see that
play out right now when we look at all the
things that are currently going on in relationship to the
gerrymandering and people grabbing hold of power.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
So these folks.

Speaker 24 (59:27):
Understand the dynamics that are going on in that space
and they refuse to let go of it, and they're
willing to do whatever they need to do to be
able to hold onto the power, to hold onto the resources,
and to push down whoever is in the way. So
that's the dynamic that we currently have going on.

Speaker 6 (59:42):
Great, yeah, I agree, think we have a fundamental misunderstanding
of the nature of nation states. This is a two
thousand year problem, the problem of setl the colonies. More
specifically and very specifically, the problem the greatest set in
the colony of the history last five years was the
United States of America. This is the end of the

(01:00:04):
age of Europe. Their desperation is delicious. No, seriously, if
we zoom out several tens of thousands of years, you know,
sometimes I wonder whether Africans should have ever migrated into
Western Eurasia and got caught between the mice ages and adapted.
We should never have walked up here in the first place.

(01:00:24):
This might be ultimately the greatest lesson of this because
whiteness is the culture of whiteness is rooted in a
sense of scarcity and a sense of insecurity, and that
comes from resource scarcity. So their whole philosophy when he
goes through that, I love Eric Schmidt, the former Attorney
General of Missouri, because he's that's what we all learn

(01:00:46):
in school. It's manifest destiny. It's that white woman floating
over them as they go to California. This is what
they do. So when Schmid talks about the Pilgrims, these
religious fanatics, the Christian version of al Qaeda, in some ways,
when they got here to the Matthewst's Bay County, they
looking to do murder, right because they came from a
place where murder was the standard. When he's talking about
Lewis and Clark leaving from Missouri, but heesta Thomas Jefferson.

(01:01:06):
He forgot about Soscha Juweah and York, who was a captive,
enslaved by them, who went out there, who was in
meeting with indigenous people in the way. But our problem
is we want them included in the narrative so that
we can somehow say we too are Americans. We built this.
And as Richard Pryce says, shut up food you want
d Indy is mad at us too. Why are we
buying into this criminal enterprise? Chuck Chume ain't gonna say

(01:01:27):
that because he believes that same story. He just wouldn't
say it that way. They think America's exceptional. This is
American exceptionalism. We have always used that language, but not
because we believed it, but because it was a defense mechanism.
Everybody who has improved this country that is not white
has done so in order to build a society that

(01:01:48):
these people never imagine. So I don't say that it
started with the Tea Party or with the No No.
This started with George Washington, started with William and Mary
A with the virgin Queen. That's why Virginia start. And
it continued and echoed through the years. Eisenhower is no
different than them. Grover Cleveland was no different than them,
Brother Ree Hayes was no different than them, Andrew Johnson

(01:02:10):
was no different than them, and everybody before Lincoln. They said, well,
Trump's the worst president ever. The first half dozen of
them were human traffickers. How the hell are you gonna say? No,
they're all worse. I said all that to say this,
This platform, this station allows us to have that conversation.
And we're the age now where they'll never be able
to go back to watch the conkright Krinky, they're saying,
Dan Ryer still doing news TP years after this. Everybody now,

(01:02:33):
Meddi Hayson got a show called Maddie Haisson Unfiltered.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
God bless you, but we all know where you got
that from.

Speaker 6 (01:02:38):
And I'm loving the TAO and all that stuff might
have touched whoever you want to name it. Every time
I see you sins, it's not on the stuff that
was legacy media. But everybody's watching those other platforms now.
They can't put their world back together. Right now, they're
trying to compete who's gonna be the most radical sounding.
Don't even worry about that. Come over here, because we're

(01:02:59):
not doing this to build America. We're doing this to
build a new society. I love Eric Schmidt. He's a
desperate man, and we're going to break his political back
now because the illusion is being dropped that we believe
in anything he believes. I want him to keep talking
like that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
To the point about I'm able to break, but to
the point about Pat Buchanan, he literally said, our fear
is that they will do to us what we did
to them. Question in Mitch Lan Drew's book, Mitch Landrews
said the same. He said, he said white people, he said,
my white people. He said, I've been around black people
a long time. Trust me, they have more empathy.

Speaker 7 (01:03:33):
Than we do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
They won't do to us what we did to them.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
But again, way, but that literally is what's driving their fear,
and that's why they cannot handle twenty forty three. They
cannot handle black power and Latino power.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
And then Latinos are.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Going to have to come to their realization that you
have to deal with your whiteness because you've got white
Latinos who are more white than they are brown and
not realizing that they also don't like y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
I'm like, don't get that confused.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
They'll use you for numeracle reasons, but do understand they
don't like y'all either. They don't want none of us
who ain't pure arian in this country and in power.
And it's right there that is a sitting United States
senator at a right wing conference funded by apartheid and

(01:04:26):
a son of apartheid, Peter TiAl, who funded JD Vance,
the current Vice president, and that's his conference. So you
cannot you cannot decouple Teal and the Edmund Burgh Foundation
and that con from Schmidt because that is literally where
they all stand. I'm going to go to break we

(01:04:47):
come back. We're go talk to Congressman Glenn Ivy on
today's show. Also, Crystal Mason was on our first.

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Speaker 7 (01:06:23):
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Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
Folks. Donal Trump continues, who threatened Blue Cities sending the
National Guard even though we know he has no legal
authority to do so. Glynn Ivy is a congressman from Maryland.
He joins us right now, Glenn, glad to have you
here before I ask you about that. Glenn, I gotta
ask you this here. You are former, you former work

(01:08:33):
in the US Attorney's office. What do you make of
these idiots in d C trying to trying to prosecute everybody?

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
And the Washington Federal Washington d C.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
Grand Jury keeps as they've rejected several of these bogus
attempts to hit folks with felonies. It's rare that a
grand jury rejects a prosecutor's effort to indict, but repeatedly
they're like, nah, this ain't flying.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 33 (01:08:59):
I mean, it's extremely rare for a grand jury to
decline to indict a case. But I mean, they're trying
to charge this guy for throwing a sandwich, and they're
trying to charge him with a felony. So you know,
I'm not surprised to grand jury not only declined to indict,
but apparently it was a little bit insulted that they
would waste their time with something like that, because.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
It really is a waste of time.

Speaker 33 (01:09:22):
And you know, Piro is the new US Attorney and
she's coming in, you know, pounding her chest, acting like
she's going to be so tough and everything. But those
are ridiculous cases to pursue. That's a very serious office,
the Army of the Department of Justice. They should be
pursuing serious cases.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
Well, and what we're seeing is again they're claiming how
they've just drastically slashing crime all across watching DC, but
when you look at the actual arrest so many of
them are misdemeanors. They're not actually impacting violent crime.

Speaker 33 (01:09:54):
Yeah, I think a lot of that is kind of
you know, fake counting, fake numbers essentially. But you know,
at the end of the day, though even if hypothetically
there was some sort of effect where they were reducing
violent crime, it's just a short term solution. And we
know violent crime is a long term problem, So why
don't we do things that we know will work in

(01:10:16):
the long term. When I was a prosecutor in the
US Attorney's Office, I was there in the early nineties,
homicides were at four hundred and fifty to five hundred
per year.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
You know, now they're a fraction of that. And part
of the reason they came.

Speaker 33 (01:10:29):
Down is because DC has had sustained efforts, not just
an enforcement you want more cops and all of that
and have them, you know, patrolling in the right ways, but.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
They had intervention and prevention programs.

Speaker 33 (01:10:41):
They're aimed at reaching kids who are in trouble, reaching
kids who are at risk, maybe even reaching folks who
are already in jail with re entry efforts when they
come out, and ninety nine point nine percent do, why
don't we try and take steps to make sure that
they have the.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
Skills to reintegrate into the community.

Speaker 33 (01:10:57):
And at the front end of it, let's not wait
till somebody gets shot and there's a body on the ground.
Let's try and see if we can re size kids.
And usually they're very young people, late teens, early twenties.
Let's see we can reach them before they get to
that stage, get the gun out of their hand, and
find other ways to resolve whatever the disagreements are.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
And then, of course the longer term piece.

Speaker 33 (01:11:17):
You know, if you get kids who are getting the
education and they see a path forward with respect to
jobs and other traditional paths, they'll take that. You know,
not a lot of kids grow up saying I want
to go to jail, I want to be a criminal,
and all that stuff. There's something that they turn to
for a variety of reasons. Let's attack those reasons on
the long term. Obviously, these troops aren't about doing that,

(01:11:40):
and they're not trained to do it. It's a waste
of time, it's a waste of money. One last point,
they're withholding. The Republicans and Congress are withholding one point
one billion dollars of DC's money from d C. Now,
if they give to one point one billion, or you know,
free it up so DC can use it. The marriage
already says she wants to use it for cops and teachers.

(01:12:03):
So free up the money. Let them decide how to
use it and the way they want to take these
guys off the street. If you want to spend a
million dollars a day, you know, in the district of Columbia,
go ahead and do that, but do it all stuff
that's going to make a difference in the long term.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Last quint question here, and that is we talked about
moving forward. I mean the reality is, Look, Republicans control
the per strings, they control the House, they control the Senate,
and now that Congress is back. What I'm here for
people all across the country, Folks say they want a
far more aggressive.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Fight from Democratic Party.

Speaker 4 (01:12:43):
Uh, if you look at the polling data, people do
not have even Democrats and progressives have much faith in
Democratic leadership. When you travel the district, what are people
saying to you and what are you taking back to
leadership that they need to be doing, Because again and
people do not have faith that current Democratic leadership House

(01:13:05):
and Senate knows how to effectively combat Donald Trump and MAGA.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Yeah, I mean that's out there a lot.

Speaker 33 (01:13:12):
I mean a couple of the things that we need
to do is continue to build on the cases that
we have in court.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
We filed some of those in the House of Representatives.

Speaker 33 (01:13:21):
The Democracy Forward group you know, which is supported by
the units, have done an outstanding job in court, getting
a lot of injunctions in place, but a lot of
times by the time they get up to the Supreme Court,
the Supreme Court's not necessarily overturning them on the merits,
but they're given the Trump administration enough room to keep
doing the destructive activities. I think we need to make

(01:13:42):
sure we keep pushing on all fronts that we possibly can.
That's protests like the ones we did you know today
with respect to DC and the militarization of the city.
I think it also includes efforts to like do focused
and targeted work on these toss up districts in Congress.
We need to take the House back next year to

(01:14:02):
actually regain some kind of power. We need to focus
on the targeted districts where we've got a shot to
do that. And there's something all across the country, for sure,
but we need it's not high profile work, it's not
pretty work, but it's the work that can actually win elections.
And as door knock and it is looking stamps, it's
reaching out to people early. Don't wait till the October

(01:14:22):
before the election kind of outreach. Start now and we
can do things where we're explaining to people to make
sure they understand that there was a one trillion dollar
cut to Medicaid that's going to affect them, that there
are going to be cuts that take away the tax
credits that help them afford healthcare coverage under Obamacare, that
they are going to lose snap access and the like

(01:14:44):
for so you know, kids won't necessarily be getting lunches
at schools like they used to. There's all kinds of
things that have been taken away from them. We need
to make sure they understand that, know that that came
from Trump and the Congression Republicans. And then the last
piece of what I would say on this is, you know,
we've got to make sure we're doing everything we can
to connect with people where they are. Part of this

(01:15:07):
is communication. Part of this is making sure that they
hear what's going on. We got out flanked in twenty
twenty four. They had a lot of these you know
online influencers of the like on the Republican side.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
We're building that out.

Speaker 33 (01:15:20):
Now on our side so we can battle them on
the information war in spaces where we weren't even present before.
And people like you, I think are doing an outstanding
job of getting the message out, getting the information out,
getting people mobilized, because knowledge is power, and we're definitely
going to need that power in the year coming up.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
What also has to have in congressmen, and that is
individuals like yourself and the congresion of black HAULCU is
now not next May, not next June, not next October.
Now must be challenging Ken Martin and the DNC, the
Democratic Governments Association, the d Triple C, the DSCC, and

(01:15:59):
all of these Democratic donors and make it clear to
them if they've got to stop listening to white Democratic
strategists who refuse to listen to black people, who refuse
to listen to latinos, who keep putting billions of dollars
into legacy media, funding those networks that nobody's watching. And

(01:16:20):
then what they do is they make digital media compete
for a crumb, not crumbs, a crumb and try to
justify all of this and that to me is nonsensical
and it makes no sense. And I've made it perfectly
clear to progressive campaigns. I told them what Fat Joe said,

(01:16:40):
Yesterday's price ain't today's price. If you want to run
ads over here, you're going to pay a real number.
What you're not going to do is play me small
and folk like yourself and others are going to have
to be very clear with these people because they need
to understand that the game has changed. Cannot target black

(01:17:01):
people the way you used to. That thing is out
the window. Even the Obama campaign effort is out the window.
It has to be a much longer runway, much more intensive,
and it has to be real investment. Unfortunately, too many
of these democrat, these white democratic strategists, do not want
to do that, and they're gonna learn a painful lesson.

(01:17:21):
And I'm telling you right now you can mark it down.
If they do the same thing next year they did
in twenty four, y'all are not gonna win the House.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
You're not gonna win the Senate.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
That's a great point.

Speaker 33 (01:17:33):
Hakim got a polster named Terrence Woodberry who focuses on wait,
that's polling in general. But he has a specialty in
African American, especially with respect to politics, and one of
the things he found was that the messaging really needs
to be segmented and reach out to people, not just
the folks in my age group, the civil rights age

(01:17:55):
group and you know, still going to church and all
that stuff, But we've got other age groups that aren't
reachable in the same way. Going to church on Sunday
isn't the way to reach some of them because they're
not in church, you know, going on as you pointed out,
going on broadcast TV. They're not watching broadcast TV, they're
not listening to NPR, So we have to find different
ways to reach them. But the key point that he

(01:18:17):
made was that you know, the Democratic Party keeps going
after you know, swing voters they call him and by
that they mean white voters pretty much.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
I mean white especially white suburban women.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Yeah, frequently white women.

Speaker 33 (01:18:31):
His point though, was, if you look at what's happened
with their numbers, they've been stable over the last four elections.
The last person to get a decent number of white
women voters was Barack Obama, and he didn't get over
fifty percent.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
And that was seventeen years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
That's right. Hillary Clinton didn't get it, you know, Kamala
didn't get it. That's not moving.

Speaker 33 (01:18:52):
Where we are losing votes though, where we could put
we could get it back quickly is the African American vote.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
We lost a lot of votes.

Speaker 33 (01:19:00):
They didn't necessarily swing over to Trump, although a lot
more did than we were expecting.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
A lot of people stayed home.

Speaker 33 (01:19:06):
That's the swing vote that we need to target and
make sure we get out because those are the districts.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
We need to win that can make a difference.

Speaker 33 (01:19:13):
And I think also the messaging for African Americans is
going to work with a lot of these folks, Latinos
and some of the other groups in particular, maybe not
to extent they will with us, but they're losing health
care too. They're gonna run into high energy prices too.
Their groceries are going up too because of the tariffs
and things that the Trump administration's doing. We've got to
explain to them so they understand that, and we've got

(01:19:35):
to explain the alternative approach that we want to present
them with a lot of which happened in the Biden
administration that Trump's dismantling right now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
So we've got to work.

Speaker 7 (01:19:45):
Cut out for us.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
But I think you're right.

Speaker 33 (01:19:47):
We've got to make sure A we don't wait till
the last minute to start getting the messaging out. B.
We got to make sure we target the most loyal
voters that we have in the Democratic Party are actually
anywhere across the board the African American vote.

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
Well, just so you know, I met last year with
the House Majority Pack and the Senate Majority Pack and
never heard from them again. Not one penny was being paid.
So you might want to tell Leader Jeffries and Leader
Schumer that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
We'll do We'll do all right.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
And I don't think that.

Speaker 33 (01:20:20):
I think all of us, not just at the leadership level,
all of us need to make sure we're doing that
kind of work and working with you to help get
those things done. Because when we run an a hat
on your show or you know, even if it's a
local regional sort of thing, it fills over and can
help other people who are running on our tickets as Democrats.
It can help them too, even if they're not in

(01:20:41):
our district. So making sure that you have the platform
that you need to get the word out, I think
it's critical for the Democratic Party and frankly for the
fate of the nation.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
All Right, Collins and Glenn Avey, we appreciate it. Thanks
a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
Thank you, keep up the great work.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
Thanks a lot. Rebecca Carruthers, President's CEO of Fair Election.
Senate Joseph right now from DC and Rebecca, it's real simple.
If you don't invest, if you don't spend, if you
don't spend, it where what I call low hanging for
your likely voters, They're gonna keep losing. And I tell people, listen,
we don't. I've never self identified as a Republican or
a Democrat, as a as a liberal or progressive or conservative.

(01:21:17):
I'm black, and I just look at black interests and
the reality is, if I'm speaking to black interests, they
ain't gonna happen going through the Republican Party. But Democrats
had better realize they're gonna keep getting their asses handed
to them if they ignore or truck or treat black
people the same way and historically have done well.

Speaker 18 (01:21:36):
First, Rowlin, thank you so much for having me on
your platform. You are the only person in media who
has consistently welcomed me back on your platform over and over.
Someone to say thank you and happy anniversary. What's really
interesting with what the congressman meant just said, and then
what you're saying is that, Okay, so we're talking the strategist.
We're talking to Terrence Woodberry, he's doing the polling. He's saying, Hey,

(01:21:59):
you need to talk segment out black folks. That's great,
But what are you going to talk about. We have
hit the two hundred day mark of the Trump administration.
Trump told us last year through Project twenty five, what
he was going to do in the first hour, verse
twenty four hours, the first fifty days, the first one
hundred days, the first two hundred days, and now they're
telling us what they're doing in the next two hundred days.

(01:22:21):
So why haven't we heard from the opposition party, allegedly
there's supposed to be the opposition party, Why haven't we
heard Hey, give us the house back and we'll tell
you what we're going to do to stop what's happening
in this current administration.

Speaker 10 (01:22:35):
And by the way, give us some of.

Speaker 18 (01:22:37):
The governorships that are up next year, and we'll tell
you what we'll do state by state, Like I am
seeing today that California, Oregon, and Washington State is saying
they're going to fight back against RFK Junior and actually
have a pack to make sure that there's actually vaccines
in America because, by the way, they're safe and by

(01:22:57):
the way, black folks, a lot of black people actually
invented some of these vaccines that were using today.

Speaker 10 (01:23:02):
That's saving millions of lives.

Speaker 18 (01:23:04):
So my point is, what is the affirmative message that
we're going to hear from the opposition party?

Speaker 10 (01:23:09):
Why aren't they outlining it?

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
Now?

Speaker 18 (01:23:10):
Give us a reason to vote, and then give us
a reason to vote for you. And so you could say, oh,
we need to segment people out and talk to them,
but talk to them about what start that messaging today?
And I'm not just talking about surface level messaging of
Trump is bad, but give me policy.

Speaker 21 (01:23:28):
The thing is this, right, Republicans did that like Democrats
a plan catch up, but this is exactly Republicans did
going back to twenty fifteen twenty sixteen, I was sitting
down on vendors like L two Cambridge Analytica that we're
going out and buying every data point possible on Americans
and taking those data points and literally formulating thousands, not
not tens, not hundreds, literally thousands of variations of different

(01:23:52):
ads to say, Okay, look, we know these twenty people
on this block and this precinct care about this little
minute issue, and we're going to make sure every open
up Facebook they see an ad with this candidate and
that issue.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Trump Trump Pack.

Speaker 4 (01:24:05):
The Trump Pack in January, February, and March were running
ads on black radio stations in Michigan, Ohio, Georgia that
included transgender messaging yes. And I remember sending a text
message to the deputy campaign manager for the Harrison campaign.

(01:24:31):
It was black and they literally said, oh, we've looked
at it, and then even later we don't believe this
is going to move the needles. And I said, y'all
are idiots. So what happened was they were testing the
messaging on HERB on black radio in the first quarter
and that's why those commercials, and that's why Charlemagne and

(01:24:54):
DJ Envy that was included in the commercial. And then
when the election was over, the Trump folk said that
was their second most effective commercial. And if you watch
any college or NFL game, you saw, dude, I was in,
I was in, I was in Ohio, Wisconsin, Georgia. It

(01:25:15):
was woman battleground stick at North Carolina I saw that
ad a minimum of six times during halftime. Halftime they
understood all they had to do was move anywhere from
one point five to three point seven percent Roland.

Speaker 21 (01:25:32):
That's the thing, right, elections. People think that elections are
big swass.

Speaker 7 (01:25:36):
Right now, talk I voted.

Speaker 21 (01:25:37):
Suppression, they think, oh my god, it's like everybody's most
being suppressed. No elections or a game of margins is hey,
I know this is my win number, this is I
need to win. This is what that margin needs to be,
and how.

Speaker 7 (01:25:50):
Do we get there?

Speaker 21 (01:25:51):
And that's what Republican Republicans do it very well. If
they figure out that margin, figure out who to peel off,
whether it's black men this cycle, whether it's right women
that cycle, whether it's the young white man the next cycle,
and figure out that margin. And that's what Democrats have
to if Democrats want to be competitive going forward, you
got to figure out where you could pill votes off
on the margin and then build on those margins and

(01:26:11):
and cater and give those people whatever the hell they want.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
But what it was, Michael, go ahead, no, no problem.

Speaker 22 (01:26:17):
And when my father was chair of the party, that's
what he That's how Clinton won. The strategy was first,
are you going to bring he said to the governor,
Are you going to bring a gun to a gunfight,
not a knife like like Dukakis did? And are you
going to try to figure out those margins that you
were talking about? So when my father was chair, he
was the first Ron Lester, who we all know had

(01:26:39):
always been a subcontractor christ Off.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
Everybody's like Ron Brown was your father. Ron Lester was
Democratic post.

Speaker 23 (01:26:46):
Correct, thank you, thank you. Ron Lester had always been
Ronster had a son. But he did do my opoling
when I ran for.

Speaker 22 (01:26:54):
But he had some choice things to say to me too,
But he made sure that Ron was a general contractor,
not a sub there you go.

Speaker 23 (01:27:05):
So that way that gave Ron the ability to.

Speaker 22 (01:27:08):
Start passing out to smaller polsters that could grow and
become And that data was so important on where black
folks were relative to Governor Clinton and against and most
Mount Rushmore is of Republicans. Ronald Reagan is on there
on their mountaintop. George Bush was that vice president. He
should have won that election, but because.

Speaker 6 (01:27:30):
Of the strategeople don't know, no he did.

Speaker 23 (01:27:35):
He did feel off, no question.

Speaker 6 (01:27:37):
No parole. Probably Bush gets a secondary probably possibly, but
he wasn't the race. So I'm just saying bushes.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Should have no correct but.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
The thing, but the thing here reached it again that
I'm gonna go back to what the front foes did
by running that stuff in January, February March. They weren't
waiting to Sember. They were seeding. They were seeding. They
were watching the data and see what the impact was.
And it was kind of like, oh, peel peel, peel peel.

(01:28:10):
And then when I look at when I look at
what genle Mally Dillon, and I'm gonna keep calling her name,
and Stephanie Cutter and David Pluff.

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
And Quinton and all of them.

Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
Oh, let's just dump millions into concerts as opposed to
just drilling hard, going in and buying up everything on
black radio, everything on black digital, everything on black television.
But no, it was kind of like, but there's such

(01:28:41):
a they're gonna come out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
And I keep saying it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
I kept telling everybody, but the thirdy of Obama, no
black national candidate can run the Obama playbook. Ever again,
it won't work. You have got to run differently to
turn out black people. Because the person who was ten
years old Obama got elected.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
It's now twenty seven.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
It ain't the same person.

Speaker 24 (01:29:06):
Yeah, I'm not even gonna get into the black part
of all that.

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
I will say that I was on Chicago Public Talk
radio in twenty twenty three and I went to Twitter
right after it and I said, we chat, we got
work to do, because all I heard from the callers
black Collars was trans and immigration shit. So this had
been a cumulative act. And that's one thing that Republicans
understand that Democrats don't. Republicans know how to make a

(01:29:33):
thing a thing. It doesn't start on at day one
as being the thing I started. Since day one, it's
been like I don't like a cares ah huh. But
by the first year, the second year, the couple of months, everybody's.

Speaker 10 (01:29:43):
Talking about d I, d I ain't shit.

Speaker 5 (01:29:45):
CRT well that it works later with CRT's at the
college level. By then it's it's a non starter. So
the Republicans know how to build, how to stick with
something and make it the thing that everybody is talking about.
A Democrat like you plant out, We don't think it's
moving the need up. So they led shit fester, or

(01:30:07):
they have things that they should be hammering. But they
don't because oh, this focus group didn't say they can't.
This focus group didn't blame Trump for COVID. Well, fuck,
that's the biggest fuck up that we've seen in recent
decades was COVID.

Speaker 10 (01:30:19):
And now we have RK.

Speaker 5 (01:30:20):
Junior who is saying that you can't get the COVID vaccine,
who's undoing vaccine access across the board, even though this was.

Speaker 10 (01:30:26):
Donald Trump's achievement.

Speaker 5 (01:30:28):
And so Democrats always want to just think that they're
going to have that silver bullet, and they just refuse
to invest in making something the thing that people in
this country care about. The only person I can say,
and I hate to give him any credit, is Bernie Sanders.
He drove home this Medicare for All shit even though

(01:30:49):
he columbused it from John Clier.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
I do have to.

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
I like to remind people because they call it black
people Neil liberal shit from John Congers, Representative John Congress.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
Uh huh.

Speaker 5 (01:30:59):
All his progressive shi came from black progressives.

Speaker 6 (01:31:02):
But he's built a home.

Speaker 5 (01:31:04):
And during the Biden Hairris administration, it was the progressive
stood was driving home today it'll be a good day
to cancer student day. And then when the Supreme course
said no, thanks bitch, that dropped.

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
It, and so diposed to continue to make it as said, Look, you.

Speaker 5 (01:31:18):
Know, Republicans get in your student dead is coming back
with the vengeance. And so Democrats need to learn how
to stick with something. They need to learn how to
make a thing and think.

Speaker 4 (01:31:26):
But that takes.

Speaker 5 (01:31:26):
Investment, That takes more than a talker's call. That takes
more than a couple of people on TikTok no shape,
Yeah it does.

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
You gotta tell them for months.

Speaker 21 (01:31:35):
You got two elections in sixty days, one in Virginia,
one in New Jersey. They should be test that's your battleground,
to test everything for next cycle. Well, I think people
forget in twenty and No. Nine and twenty ten. I
was nineteen twenty years guay, so bary pin a little bit.
But what I do remember is that when I saw
every day on TV where Republicans running around talking about
death panels, take away your health here. Now, all this

(01:31:58):
shit was bullshit and lies, but it was enough festering
for two right years that by time November twenty ten
rolled around, people were voting on Okay, Grandma might be
have to face the death panel, right, that you know,
her medicare not be paid for, and then this this
black guy, the tan sus going to take away health care.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
From all of us in general.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
I want to Randy, Randy real quick.

Speaker 25 (01:32:19):
You cans play off of emotions, and that's the part
we want to his deep potical conversations like will they
will find a.

Speaker 10 (01:32:24):
Place that people are fearful and just run with that.
They make a thing a thing exactly like you said.

Speaker 25 (01:32:30):
Whereas Democrats we will sit there and say, well, let's
explain what CRT is.

Speaker 10 (01:32:33):
No, no, no, they're wrong. Let us expeac what DEI is.

Speaker 9 (01:32:36):
No.

Speaker 25 (01:32:36):
You have to deal with people's emotions and challenge and
Republicans do a brilliant.

Speaker 6 (01:32:41):
Job of that real quick.

Speaker 20 (01:32:43):
It's a dark intel perspective.

Speaker 28 (01:32:45):
Like what you want to do is you want to
understand pressure points, like when you think about our enemies,
when you think about Russia, when you think about China.

Speaker 20 (01:32:51):
They understand us better than we understand us.

Speaker 28 (01:32:53):
So the one thing that they're going to tug on,
I'm going to go back to a Britney Grinder example,
how that dovetails with foreign policy.

Speaker 20 (01:33:01):
And blackness.

Speaker 28 (01:33:02):
Britney Griner was the perfect person to put in jail
because they knew they had to. They put Biden up
against the wall. It's like, okay, what you're gonna do
with your black, gay gay woman here?

Speaker 10 (01:33:14):
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 28 (01:33:15):
Where are you gonna give up to get her out?
What are you going to sacrifice? That was a very
interesting move. So my point is I'm about to get
the finger. My point is is that it's about understanding
pressure points where Democrats they don't necessarily approach messaging.

Speaker 20 (01:33:32):
From that perspective.

Speaker 28 (01:33:33):
It's the it's the always playing ketchup, always explaining, but
it is a different way from understanding how to trigger
people's emotionality.

Speaker 4 (01:33:43):
Right, I'm gonna come back to this here, I gotta
go to break our next guest, we will talk again.
Seven years ago we talked about Crystal Mason, and here
we are seven years later. She still is dealing with
the bullshit and Terry County. I'm gonna talk with her
lawyer next rollanduiled on the Black Store Network.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
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Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
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With me.

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When it feels like it's taking you're making me strong,
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Speaker 22 (01:35:43):
And as somebody who's done this a long time, there's
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Speaker 4 (01:35:50):
And now you've built this with your team, I've built
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Speaker 23 (01:35:54):
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Speaker 22 (01:35:56):
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Speaker 4 (01:36:05):
Yeah, all right, fas, welcome back, roll up buck unfilters

(01:36:30):
right here on the Black Start Network. Seven years ago,
when we launched our show, we told you about the
story out of Terrant County, Texas, Arrant County, Texas for
Crystal Mason, a black woman, she tried to vote black
grandmother out of Fort Worth. She was jailed for attempting
to vote all on superrise relief from federal prison. March
twenty twenty four. She was acquitted of the charge. However,

(01:36:53):
the racist Tarrant County DA Phil Currells, who need to
be should be primary, urged the state's highest criminal court
to review that decision and to convict Mason again. Her attorney,
Kim Cole Joss right now, So, Kim, glad to have
you here. First of all, Kim, for the people who
don't know till again, what year was it that Crystal

(01:37:15):
tried to vote?

Speaker 13 (01:37:20):
I'm sorry, Roland, I can't hear.

Speaker 4 (01:37:22):
Can you hear me.

Speaker 13 (01:37:24):
Barely?

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
All right? So guys, can y'all fix her audio? Please?
We want to make sure. So Kim, can you hear
me now?

Speaker 13 (01:37:32):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:37:34):
What year, What election was it where Crystal tried to vote?

Speaker 13 (01:37:40):
Twenty sixteen.

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
Twenty sixteen, that's nine years ago. Yes, now she tried,
so her vote was never counted because they.

Speaker 10 (01:37:50):
Went after her.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
That violated her she was because she had gone to
prison on the federal charges.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
So she had to go back to prison.

Speaker 4 (01:37:59):
How long did she How long would the she had
to go back for?

Speaker 34 (01:38:04):
She had to go back for.

Speaker 13 (01:38:07):
She was sentenced to a year.

Speaker 34 (01:38:10):
In federal prison.

Speaker 13 (01:38:12):
And also they reinstated her superprise release.

Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
All right, so she goes back for almost a year
real estate, supervised released. And y'all have been going back
and forth appeals court, all this sort of stuff, and
these these and I'm gonna call him absolutely white racist.
They are still trying to jail her. The amount of
money they have spent and wasted to put this black

(01:38:38):
woman back in jail for a single vote that never
even was counted, even after her parole officer testified that
she was not aware that she could not vote.

Speaker 27 (01:38:53):
Correct, It is a to me, it's an utter waste
of taxpayer dollars, in complete abuse of the system.

Speaker 13 (01:39:05):
It was clear that Crystal.

Speaker 35 (01:39:08):
Did not know that she could not vote in the trial,
like you said her, the supervisor over the entire districts
stated that they never informed her that she couldn't vote.

Speaker 13 (01:39:20):
Me also said that they didn't even have a process
in place.

Speaker 27 (01:39:23):
For inform anybody whether or not they could vote, so
nobody informed her. The state's own witnesses testified that they
sent her mail to her home address while she was
in federal prison, so there's no way she could have
gotten the letter saying that she wasn't able to vote,
So she never knew if they did not make their

(01:39:44):
case in the state court. That has been our argument
all along. They did not make their case in trial
yet the judge because there wasn't a jury trial as
a judge by a Republican a trial by a Republican judge,
and and he found her guilty. And we're still here.

Speaker 13 (01:40:07):
Almost a decade later, awaiting of ruling.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
And so you're awaiting the ruling from which court, from the.

Speaker 27 (01:40:17):
Texas Court of Criminal Appeals, which is the highest court
in the criminal system in the state of Texas, they
originally ruled.

Speaker 13 (01:40:28):
It's been almost two years ago now that they ruled.
Actually it has been two years.

Speaker 27 (01:40:33):
I believe that they ruled that the second Court of
Appeals did not properly apply the law to Crystal's case,
so they sent it back to the Second Court of
Appeals and had them take a second look at it and.

Speaker 13 (01:40:54):
Remained it back to the Second Court of Appeals.

Speaker 27 (01:40:57):
The Second Court of Appeals ruled in our favor. The
state has now filed for a discretionary review.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
And that's where we are right now.

Speaker 4 (01:41:04):
And let's let folks know how long did y'all have
to wait for that last decision?

Speaker 13 (01:41:10):
Eighteen months?

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Think so eighteen months?

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:41:14):
And when did the clock start this second review?

Speaker 27 (01:41:19):
They filed in April of twenty twenty Bob, twenty twenty four,
So we're what close to seventeen months at this point.

Speaker 4 (01:41:31):
Right, And so here we are almost ten years later,
and this sister still is having this over her head
because the Terran County DA Phil cerells he wants to
put this woman in prison for voting and a vote
that was actually never counted. Correct.

Speaker 7 (01:41:54):
Correct.

Speaker 27 (01:41:55):
What they wanted to do Roland is exactly what the
prosecutors stated in Crystal's original trial. The prosecutor stated that
they wanted to send a message to voters.

Speaker 13 (01:42:07):
That's what the Terran County district attorney wants to do.

Speaker 27 (01:42:10):
He wants to send a message to voters, and obviously
we all know what that message means.

Speaker 13 (01:42:16):
It's purely voter intimidation.

Speaker 27 (01:42:18):
They have I'm sure, as we've seen in recent news,
Texas has gone through extreme measures to chill voting in Texas,
and this is one of their tactics which began almost
a decade ago.

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
It's absolutely insane.

Speaker 4 (01:42:39):
We've had you and or Crystal on this show for
the last six years and I can't believe here we
are celebrating our seventh anniversary Rollandmart unfiltered and we are
still talking about this case.

Speaker 27 (01:42:53):
It's unfortunate. It's absolutely unfortunate. I you know, Roland, when
we came on seven years yars ago, I probably we
might have to roll the tape back. I may have
specifically and definitively stated Nope, this won't fly because it
runs a foul of Texas law. However, in today's climate,

(01:43:20):
given the links that the Texas Republicans have gone to
kurtail voting and to send a message, I can't say
what the outcome is going to be.

Speaker 13 (01:43:35):
I honestly can't.

Speaker 27 (01:43:36):
Terrance County, I believe it's common knowledge that Tarrance County
is the largest urban district in the US as far
as the red red district in the US.

Speaker 4 (01:43:50):
Yeah, actually, but it's also it is the last large
county in Texas that's red, Harris County, that's Houston, Dallas County, Dallas,
Bear County, San Antonio, Travis County, Austin. All of those
are blue counties, and this is their last stronghold. Uh.
And Republicans are desperately trying to hold onto this county.

Speaker 7 (01:44:14):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:44:14):
And one of the reasons why they steal this county
is still red is because black Latino voters are not
voting their numbers, see.

Speaker 27 (01:44:23):
Absolutely absolutely, and they are determined their moms red. And
that's essentially that's what they're trying to do by any means, necessarily,
even if it means.

Speaker 34 (01:44:37):
They do not want to post they were quite close
to because we always vote blue, which isn't exactly true,
but that's the.

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
Perception, all right, Kim.

Speaker 4 (01:44:50):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 33 (01:44:51):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
We hope not to see you next year on this anniversary,
and if we do see you, it's for other reasons.
Give Crystal our besket appreciate it.

Speaker 27 (01:45:01):
Thanks you a lot, absolutely, thank you Roland, and congratulations
on yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:45:08):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
Thanks a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:45:10):
Greg.

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
Gonna go to you black folks in Tarrn County.

Speaker 4 (01:45:18):
This should be Crystal Mason's billboard everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
See this is the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:45:23):
And now I've hit some pastors there. Come on and
I said, how in the hell are y'all not making
her the centerpiece a black turnout. You got a racist
matter sheriff in Terrn County, a racist district attorney, an
even more racist county judge who just drove through a

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racist Jerrymander district take to take out Alisa Simmons County
commissioner because the Republicans of a three or two majority,
he wants a four to one majority, use this racist
white firm paid for by county voters, and then would
let them testify before the county commissioner's court. And I've
been saying that if folk in Montgomery made Rosa Parks,

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the rallying cry in Taran County is Crystal Mason. This
is nine years this has been going on, insane.

Speaker 6 (01:46:16):
It is, Well, let's look at Montgomery in that context.
Did we know who the enemy was in Montgomery? We
absolutely did? Did they needly pullis if you understand white premacy.
Everything else you think you understanding only confusion. If a
bully keep coming and you keep giving it up, you

(01:46:36):
probably deserve what happens. Not in a moral sense, but
when you beat the bully's ass, you beat the shit
out of them. They stopped. These crackers are doing what
they're doing because we haven't stopped them. Yep, you said
all the time, Land we vote our numbers. It's over
in Tarrett County. Absolutely. You say, since you don't want
Crystal Mason to vote, you klansmen, we're going to break

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your political back. And all the people come say, well,
we're all just trying to build a better society. You know,
you go sit your ass down. We're not Democrats, we're
not Republicans. You always say, well for black people, and
this is to all the people out there, collars shields
for the Democrats. You negroes need to go to hell
because you are scared of your master. You worship other
white masters, perhaps called Marx or you know, Antonio Gramachy,

(01:47:19):
whoever you worship. But what you don't understand is that
old school black people understand think in Montgomery you the enemy.
Mister mayor you the Emmy Bull Connor. You the enemy,
and we're gonna organize. What we won't do today is
call a thing a thing. The Democratic Party are racists.
They are racists, and they are willing to sacrifice us.
We need to use the Democratic Party the same way

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we used to use the Republicans or any other body.
It's a delivery system. So in Texas, finally, let me
ask you this, and it goes to everybody. These these
crackers are germandering, counting on us not voting. Yep, if
we vote our numbers to those seats, flip yes, Yeah,
that's what.

Speaker 18 (01:47:57):
You can't jerrymander the DA race because it's county wise.

Speaker 13 (01:48:00):
Guess what talk to it?

Speaker 10 (01:48:02):
That race is up.

Speaker 27 (01:48:04):
I just pulled.

Speaker 18 (01:48:05):
I just pulled the numbers for twenty twenty two. In
twenty twenty two, the last time that race was up,
only forty seven percent of those who were the vote
showed up to vote that specific race. With Phil Sorrows,
he got about three hundred and ten thousand votes. The
black woman who ran against him got about two hundred
and seventy two thousand votes. That's the difference of thirty
eight thousand votes.

Speaker 10 (01:48:26):
You're trying to tell me we can't find.

Speaker 18 (01:48:28):
Thirty eight thousand black votes in Terran County.

Speaker 6 (01:48:32):
Right, what's the message though, well, I mean that, what's
the message that would do that? Like you said Republicans
and vibes, you said it, what's our vibe? We scared
to call a thing a thing? You're racist? Our vibe
is break your fucking back.

Speaker 10 (01:48:43):
The state House just ran.

Speaker 18 (01:48:45):
Your legislators say yes, take away your right to vote.
This racist DA is stopping you from being able to vote.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
So that is the message. And if we're going to
call it out, we.

Speaker 4 (01:48:55):
Have to call it up and again with stop. I'm
using Montgomery for a rea and I hate when Black
people bring up Montgomery talk about the boycott. But you
can't talk about the boycott if you don't deal with
the women's political organization that actually was planning the boycott.

(01:49:20):
That was Joanne Robinson and those women. So when they
got sick and tired, because but people don't understand. She
sent a letter to the bus company the day after
the Brown Verse Board of Education decision saying, de segregate.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
This has been going on for a year.

Speaker 4 (01:49:39):
She was one of the people who was denied seating
up front and when that day happened. When the phone
call came in, she grabbed two Alabama State students, went
to the basement of the President's office, mimeographed those copies,
called nine Sisters, and said, we're dropping them off, drop
the pamphlets off. That pamphlet was disseminated to fifty thousand

(01:50:03):
black people, and the only reason the white people found
out because a black housekeeper got it and gave it
to her white master. And Joanne said, they were initially pissed,
She said, but what after was all the press was
there at the church that night, and they actually spread
the message a lot faster. But that thing was done covertly.

(01:50:26):
Nobody white and Montgomery had any idea. And then she said,
because she worked at the Alabama State and there were
other professors, they did not want for us to lose
their job, so they sacrificially stepped back into to the preachers.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
Y'all take it from here.

Speaker 4 (01:50:42):
But it doesn't happen unless those black women were already
organized and had a plan of action. That's what has
to happen. In Terran County. We keep saying. We went
to Kansas City, the urbally, and they were like people
would turn the vote. I'm like, you hope they turn
out to vote. No, you got to go knock on
the door and already know who's going to come out

(01:51:03):
to vote, and not you hope they turn out.

Speaker 7 (01:51:05):
That's right.

Speaker 24 (01:51:06):
In Montgomery, they understood, you know, when folks said loose
lips sink ships. So they understood that they had to
keep things tight. They had to have the strategic plan.
They had to make sure that people were not only motivated,
but they also had to understand what does the goal
look like? You know as we move down the road,
y'all were talking about, so what is the talking point

(01:51:26):
around what's going on in sister Mason. It is about
illegal lynching. It is about illegal lynching that continues to
happen not only to her, but continues to happen throughout
the black community all across this country. Folks get that
right because they understand how lynching has impacted our communities,
and they also understand how the legal system has played
a role in that. And they also should have the

(01:51:49):
understanding of how your vote can actually change that. So
our sisters talk about the DA right, most folks don't
understand how their vote plays into having the DA in there.
So we have to make sure that we're utilizing language
that our people can actually resonate with that actually moves
through our DNA because of everything that we've been through.

Speaker 23 (01:52:07):
The decade upon decade.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
So that's the way that I operate.

Speaker 24 (01:52:10):
I make sure that I'm creating, you know, the imagery
and the words that are necessary for folks that I'm
working with to really get with.

Speaker 4 (01:52:18):
I'm sorry, so reason if you say free Crystal Mason,
you free Crystal Mason if you defeat his ass.

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (01:52:26):
But I think we need to confront the fact that
in our community, as opposed to Montgomery, there are a
lot of people who feel very comfortable.

Speaker 19 (01:52:34):
With black women being punished.

Speaker 5 (01:52:36):
And Republicans understand that when you put a black woman
out front. Oh well, look at what Lemonica mc ivor.
She is still facing federal charges, trumped up charges for
some bullshit.

Speaker 4 (01:52:52):
And we barely hear about it.

Speaker 5 (01:52:53):
We've talked about it on this show, of course, in
another black media spaces. But is there an uppoor They
tried to censure her this week.

Speaker 6 (01:53:00):
Why why isn't there?

Speaker 5 (01:53:02):
Because black women are unprotected in this country. But wait,
hold on, let me let me give a couple more examples.
Let me give a couple Let me give a couple
more examples. This administration has shown time and time again
when they attack black women, there's very little response. Three
hundred thousand black women have lost their jobs, and there's

(01:53:23):
a shoulder shrug to that. Adriana Smith was kept on
life support her she was she had to, she was
an incubator for a baby for months, and she was
taken off life support, and there was very little fanfare
about it. And so the problem with I wish in
the depths of my soul that we can make a
black woman the post aboard and say an injustice against

(01:53:47):
the black woman is at justice against our entire community.
But we are seeing each day the way that this
administration is proving that not to be the case. And
we're seeing with Crystal Mason's case, as abhorrant as this is,
in as much courage as this guy on your show,
it has not moved the needle.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
And that's I'm going to go back to stokely Carmichael
cauiment Terra.

Speaker 6 (01:54:07):
He's a man.

Speaker 4 (01:54:08):
No no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no no no for me, no
no no for me, the issue is not for me.
For me, the issues not because no, no, no, here's
here's what I think was about else. But here's the
But here's the fundamental issue.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
This is just a very clear fundamental issue.

Speaker 4 (01:54:28):
Carmichael said, you can't show me an African American who
has made a difference for our people who did it
as an individual. They did it through an organization. The
problem in ar County and the problem and I go
back to when I say, you get a whole generation
of people's baby boomers who were the glue in our community.

(01:54:49):
What has happened is we've had folks who believe that well,
if I individually tweet, individually post or do my thing,
it's a difference.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
No, the only way this thing happens in tern County.
The only way you.

Speaker 4 (01:55:07):
Can activate the Black Belt in North Carolina, that's.

Speaker 23 (01:55:12):
East North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (01:55:13):
The only way you can activate Black Rule Georgia is
there has to be an infrastructure, an organization through which
people can work through. So when they say, hey, okay,
I'm down with this racy, where do I sign up?

Speaker 3 (01:55:31):
Who do I?

Speaker 4 (01:55:32):
And if that doesn't happen, if I like this is
a problem, I can't I literally right now cannot tell
the audience call this person over this group to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:47):
And when you start looking at.

Speaker 4 (01:55:48):
Cities around the country, that is what has happened. We
have leaned for years on our legacy civil rights groups.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
That ain't it. So if that ain't it all right,
then what's the entity or seriously, what you is?

Speaker 4 (01:56:03):
Why I have consistently challenged the D nine and the
Prince Hall Masons and the Eastern Star and the links
of all these groups. We have black infrastructure, but our
black infrastructure is used for personal gain, inward gain, and
not external black game. That's our greatest problem. We need

(01:56:28):
real You gonna have a structure real quick, because I
do flight to catch the Atlanta because no, no, because
I'm let me just real quick. I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
No, no, I'm gonna let you do it.

Speaker 4 (01:56:36):
Just hold on, so let me shout out the Noble
Women's Conference with the Noble Women's relegated the conference.

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
I am not a ready to poun nine three of tomorrow.
I'm gonna be there. Flights at ten ten, I'm.

Speaker 7 (01:56:48):
Gonna be there.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
So go okay, real quick, don't get the finger.

Speaker 28 (01:56:51):
Go anyway, so real quick to your point, I'm a strategist,
and I'm always advocating what's to strategy, what's to strategy?

Speaker 20 (01:56:58):
It can't be inward, it can be personal.

Speaker 28 (01:56:59):
Right, Rosa Parks is a great example, the plus CV
Ferguson is a great example. These were strategic cases, right.
Rosa Parks was not just this tired old black woman
on the bus. No, she was chosen right, and she
had the entire infrastructure of the NAACP supporting her in
that effort. Plessy was a strategic moment in history where

(01:57:23):
they knew what that outcome was going to be, and
they were prepared for that moment. The strategic piece is
missing in the messaging, in the execution. And I just
want to say, you know, the way in which the
Republicans understand how to pull on those pressure points, we
don't understand MAGA the way Republicans understand other groups in
this country and culture.

Speaker 25 (01:57:43):
Hello, Eugene, Randy go and we need to stop being
so satisfied when we get a little piece of something.
What you're saying about our social groups is absolutely right.
And I believe that it became individualistic and we feel like, oh,
we've made it because I'm in this group and I'm
in that group, and we don't have to serve the groups.

Speaker 10 (01:57:57):
Don't have to serve a greater purpose. We're so worried
about the Democrat.

Speaker 4 (01:58:03):
Or whether we're gonna lose our five o' one C
three status.

Speaker 25 (01:58:05):
Absolutely, And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying those
things are in valuable.

Speaker 10 (01:58:08):
People were right, but we need we have the power.

Speaker 25 (01:58:11):
I was just saying, there's groups seventeen thousand members strong
or something.

Speaker 10 (01:58:14):
What are we doing?

Speaker 25 (01:58:14):
So I don't want to just see a letter that
we're writing that we're disappointed in what happened, But what
are we doing? If we have this power, we owe
it to our people and to think that we have overcome.

Speaker 10 (01:58:25):
It's crazy.

Speaker 25 (01:58:26):
So I'm gonna need to pay attention to realize we
haven't overcome and there's work to be done.

Speaker 4 (01:58:29):
Before I go to Eugene. I'm gonna say this right now,
and this is the challenge. The person who is fighting
the hardest in Tarn County is County Commissioner Lisa Simmons,
And I'm gonna say this right now. I do not
understand why in the hell every single one of you

(01:58:50):
members of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated is not going
hard for your saw raw. You do not have you
take a vote, You do not even have to discuss
it in your organization. Every AKA in Tarrant County can

(01:59:13):
join together and rise up and say we are going
to stand with our assistant. Y'all ain't even gotta wear
pink and green. You wouldn't even have to wear no, no,
no no, because see here's the problem. Our d nine
organizations are so scared that we tell folks, don't wear
your colors, don't wearh your letters, because we might get sued.

(01:59:33):
So the point I'm making is, if there is an
organization in Tarrant County that could serve as the central
mobilizing vehicle, it's the ak's in Tarrann County, because it
is your saw roh who they racistly racially.

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
Jimmy meandered out of a position.

Speaker 4 (01:59:54):
Oh hold up, and by the way, for all you
ak's in Tarrann County who like why he calling us out,
it was Joe AKA Joe Anne Robinson who was the
one who came up with this in Montgomery. So that's
in your DNA. So we're talking about who should be there.
That's the perfect vehicle to drive this thing home. And

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it don't matter if Crystal not in a sorority, because
when you stand up for Crystal Mason, you standing up
for black girls, black women, black men as well. So
I'm just simply saying, if we want to know where
you can go, it could start with the Ak's in
Tarrn County, and then the Ak's in Tarrn County, could
call on the Devils in Tarrn County and the Zeta's

(02:00:36):
in Tarrn County and the Sigma Gamma rolls in Taryrn County,
and then the Black returns into Tarrn County.

Speaker 2 (02:00:42):
And now all of a sudden, you're gonna have thousands.

Speaker 4 (02:00:45):
Of black people mobilize and organized to drive this campaign home.

Speaker 2 (02:00:50):
And let's see what y'all gonna do. Eugene, Rebecca go.

Speaker 7 (02:00:53):
So real quick.

Speaker 21 (02:00:54):
I actually agreed, Probably you don't even need to make
Crystal Mason the face of this. But what you should
do is go go go down to the courthouse, find
the last ten to fifteen thousand cases that his office prosecuted.
This status out there. Use the data same way Republicans
use it. Those people target every last one of their
family members above eight.

Speaker 4 (02:01:13):
Oh, you got that and hid, and hell, dozens of
people have died in that jail to this share.

Speaker 6 (02:01:20):
But you rolling Roland, I think that's right.

Speaker 7 (02:01:23):
You got ten thousand folks.

Speaker 21 (02:01:24):
If you're targeting five or six pc your margins, right there,
I got you.

Speaker 2 (02:01:27):
I got to go.

Speaker 18 (02:01:28):
But even the worse, there's a lot of black men
who have been killed in Arrant County by law enforcement
and there hasn't been charges brought. So there's a ton
of things. But what I will say is I talk
to people on the ground in Tarrent County. I talked
to them all, what are y'all going to do to
get this what are y'all going to do to get
this district attorney out of office and to find someone
who's actually going to be responsive to the community. And

(02:01:49):
the response that I got back from these people was, oh, well,
we're waiting for the Democratic Party.

Speaker 7 (02:01:54):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (02:01:55):
No.

Speaker 18 (02:01:55):
And so this is my point of that, in strategy
a strategic plan, you have the strategy.

Speaker 20 (02:02:01):
You have goals, and you have tactics.

Speaker 18 (02:02:03):
The Democratic Party can be a tactic, but it should
never be the strategy.

Speaker 4 (02:02:07):
And that's that's why, and that's why I keep saying,
this is not a party thing. This is a black thing,
and I need black people don't depend on a party,
which is why keep telling people, give your money to
black voters matter, Give it to until freedom, give it
to black organizations who are on the ground, who you're
going to spend it with our people, because that's how

(02:02:27):
you actually change this thing.

Speaker 2 (02:02:28):
That's how you can.

Speaker 4 (02:02:29):
Actually shift this And I'm telling you, if what we're
laying out Terran County can be taken, yes, it's therefore
the taking. The problem is it has not been organized
and has not been mobilized. And if you then take
Taran County in November and you target next year, then
you can take those congressional seats. And guess what their

(02:02:50):
Republicans all across Texas, who right now are afraid because
they've gone so far with these race racially geermenic maps,
They like, wait a minute, there's a lot of black
people who have now been shit into the Republican districts
and they can they so literally, there are ten Republicans
who are like, uh, we could get taken out because
of what we just did, but they will never be

(02:03:11):
taken out if we stay at home. Uh, folks, is
our seventh anniversary here I'm rolling out the unfiltered fourth
anniversary of Blackstar Network. We want appreciate everybody who supported us.

Speaker 14 (02:03:20):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:03:21):
Normally we have a big party. Normally we got alcohol,
food and everything. But I gotta plane to catch I
gotta get to Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (02:03:28):
So that's why we cut it short. But I did,
I did.

Speaker 4 (02:03:31):
I we didn't like.

Speaker 2 (02:03:33):
I know you want some alcohol. It's something in the
cab you want to drink.

Speaker 4 (02:03:37):
I shot. I know, I know y'all want some to
the wings and crab cakes that y'all.

Speaker 18 (02:03:45):
I didn't have lunch all of y'allus what.

Speaker 4 (02:03:48):
All I give y'all the next phone number, and all
of y'all can't get some at the crib.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
I did hit Lenette, you down.

Speaker 4 (02:03:55):
We got cupcakes and so anyway, I hit Lynette.

Speaker 2 (02:03:58):
Lynette brought my.

Speaker 4 (02:03:59):
Favorite chocolate cutcakes, Red Velvey cupcakes. Appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (02:04:03):
Let me think.

Speaker 4 (02:04:04):
Everybody, of course has been on paneling to think everybody
here as well, thank our staff as well. I'm think I.

Speaker 2 (02:04:11):
Think she just got here down. She's so brand new,
hell girl.

Speaker 4 (02:04:21):
So I'm trying to think. I think to the longest
serving people here, uh, and it's shock and they still
here Henry and Anherty. I don't know where they at. Uh,
let's see Stephen of course on AUDIYO. So those are
three longest serving people. I appreciate that.

Speaker 18 (02:04:37):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:04:38):
I'm trying to see who the hell else there we
got over there?

Speaker 33 (02:04:43):
Carol care, How you let Lisa Carroll care, How you
let Lisa Carroll care, How you let Lisa.

Speaker 4 (02:04:48):
Kunk work at Lisa belong to the black side.

Speaker 2 (02:04:51):
Lisa, you got way more freedom over here. You can
be usually be free over here.

Speaker 4 (02:04:57):
So again, let me think, Let me think of the
whole staff, y'all. We had some amazing interns and folks.
We've already started our capitol campaign and raised the million
dollars by December. I'm not gonna name the person, but
we literally I sent a text message to a whole
bunch of people today asking them to post our graphic
to post hey support the show, and one of the

(02:05:18):
folks who was sent it to literally said I'm gonna
give the show one hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 35 (02:05:24):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (02:05:24):
I was totally blown away. So our target go pullo
graphic up. The goals are raising million dollars by December.

Speaker 2 (02:05:31):
Now I will go y'all. Is nine hundred thousand by December,
and we.

Speaker 25 (02:05:35):
Can do this.

Speaker 4 (02:05:36):
And I keep telling y'all, listen, we ain't got millionaires
and billionaires cutting us checks.

Speaker 2 (02:05:42):
We got one now.

Speaker 4 (02:05:43):
But ad agencies are screwuple black people.

Speaker 2 (02:05:46):
Anti DEI.

Speaker 4 (02:05:47):
I'm telling y'all, Black newspapers are getting crushed nationally because
of these anti DEI efforts. Every black nonprofit in America
is being impacted by anti DEI. I need y'all to
unders if there is a moment where black people have
to use our coins and then we love talking about
HBCUs and how we love them. A lot of those

(02:06:10):
abcus started because free people of Africa to see it.
That's put them coins together, pennies and nickels to create
those schools. We funded black organizations, We funded black banks.
Understand a hallmark a central point of building community. You
have to have communication medium because this is mass media.
It's more than three thousand people who are watching right now.

(02:06:33):
But I keep telling y'all, March fourth, we had two
hundred and fifty thousand watching, so whether other two und
forty seven thousand. See, we got to also get out
of the habit of turning ONSNBC MSNBC has more Black
viewers than anybody else. But y'all ain't seeing a lot
of black people on MSNBC. You ain't seeing black content,
you ain't seeing black experts. I guarantee you ain't no
black foreign policy person you're seeing on MSNBC on a

(02:06:55):
regular basis. I guarantee you there's no blacks. There's no
black studies person, and you're seeing at an HBCU on
a regular basis. Yeah, y'all saw what I did that.
There's no black environmental expert, no black economists. I can
go on and on and on. So supporting this show
and network is critically important. I already told y'all we're

(02:07:16):
gonna be launching a new daily show. I've already offered
the sister a job who's going to be doing that
daily show. We're working on launching a black business show,
a black health show because we have to build out
the network and all the offerings, and I assisted if
I can pull it up, well, our roku's not work.
So what I was going to debut today, but we
have to make sense changes over. So if you go
to Blackstartnetwork dot com, that app comes up right now, Well,

(02:07:39):
in four days, that's going to change because we are
turning the Blackstar Network dot com into a black news portal,
so you will see opinion pieces. We're using AI to
take the content and the interviews on this show turned
them into written stories. And then we're also looking at
hiring at least one or two writers to also drive
content on the website.

Speaker 2 (02:08:00):
And so I told y'all we were going next level.

Speaker 4 (02:08:03):
So one of the reasons we're talking about raising this
one million dollars is to fund those things. The black
company out of Los Angeles called Quantity that's building out
our black news portal, and again we were going to
launch it today, but we have to make a switch
over from the app, so hopefully that will be done
in four days.

Speaker 2 (02:08:18):
You'll see what that looks like.

Speaker 4 (02:08:19):
But if you look at right now in black on Media,
you do not have a black news portal where they
where you ain't seeing aggregated content. I'm not rewriting white
media stories. We ain't doing that. We're going to be
having our own stories and covering the things because again,
we have to expand this because I can't do all

(02:08:39):
the interviews and all the reporting. It has to be
brought and has to be bigger and so media is important.
We are not here as black people if we did
not have black newspapers and black magazines and black radio.
We're now living in a digital world, and unfortunately, too
many of our black OneD media companies are not meeting
the moment. You have black women targeted outlets that are

(02:09:02):
not writing about the attacks on black women on a
daily basis. You have black business outlets ain't writing about
the attacks on black business on a daily basis. And
we can go on and on and on, and so
we're not going to play this game of sports entertainment.
If y'all want that, go somewhere else. If y'all want
to see who's getting married, who's getting divorced, who's pregnant,

(02:09:26):
who's not pregnant, who left they man, who left they woman,
don't come here because I don't give a shit. Can
go somewhere else. I'm not talking about it. I don't care.
It's a lot of celebrities. I know, Hey, heady birthday.
Guess what I'll send them a text. We ain't doing
that on the show because we've got to have a
focus where it's just news and information, where it's the

(02:09:47):
beginning of the middle and the end and so that's
what the goal here. So when I asked y'all to support,
I'm not playing. The first check that we got was
from a ninety two year old black woman and I
actually put her on the show and she said, she
want watch my TV one show. She said her daughter
followed me on Facebook because she played golf, and that
sister said, she told me about what you were launching,

(02:10:07):
and she said, your voice matters, and she sent a
five hundred dollars check.

Speaker 2 (02:10:11):
That's actually how to bring the funk.

Speaker 4 (02:10:13):
Fan Club got started, and since we launched, more than
forty thousand people have made donations to this show, ranging
from one dollar all the way up to thirty thousand
dollars and now the largest now is one hundred thousand dollars.
But understand, everybody can't give a hundred thousand, or fifty
or thirty or twenty five, ten to five. Everybody came

(02:10:35):
to give fifty dollars. But trust me, when the sister
the Seasons Saint, who stopped in Atlanta Airport and gave
me a dollar, her dollar is just as important as
the one hundred thousand, because you know what if you
get ten thousand people giving one dollars.

Speaker 2 (02:10:48):
That's still ten thousand dollars. And so that's where we
have to be.

Speaker 4 (02:10:51):
And I'm telling y'all, right now, this anti DYA stuff,
this anti black stuff that's locked in place for next
three and a half years, we need to understand that
it ain't going away if Democrats win the House next year.
And so we have got to have communication mediums that
are fortified, that are unbought, unbossed, and that they do
not control. And I told y'all, the only person above

(02:11:14):
me on our on our flow chart is God. I
don't report to anybody else. I don't ask anybody else,
can I I don't ask anybody else for permission? And
guess what out of the Wills Barnett was that way.
So it was Robert Abbott, So was Frederick Douglass, So
was John Sinnstat, So was John H. Johnson and Earl
Graves and the brothers who own essence. The only way

(02:11:37):
we can truly have free black OneD meeting, when I
mean by free, free of constraints, is if we fund it.

Speaker 2 (02:11:47):
And that's what has to happen.

Speaker 4 (02:11:48):
And so if you want to support our work again,
our goals to raise a million dollars now nine hundred
thousand between now December thirty first to contribute via strip
with Cash app. She the cure code right here. Paypals
are Martin unfolked with Vin. Those are m unfiltered Zel,
Rolling at Rolling s Martin dot Com, Rolling at Rolling
unfiltered dot Com. Check you money orders, make it payable
to Rolling Mark and unfiltered Peelbox five seven one ninety six,

(02:12:09):
Washington DC two zero zero three seven dad zero one
ninety six. Of course, download the Blackstart Network app Apple Phone,
Android Phone, Apple TV, Android TV, Roku, Emma's Unfire TV,
Xbox one, Samsung Smart TV.

Speaker 2 (02:12:20):
Those you watch you on.

Speaker 4 (02:12:21):
YouTube, hit the damn like button. I see all y'all,
Colm in with y'all. I see more than three thousand
people watch. Honestly, three thousand likes. What's up with that?

Speaker 2 (02:12:28):
Makes no sense to me?

Speaker 4 (02:12:28):
All right, don't forget get our Blackstart Network gear. I
think we have this black on Media Matters shirt on there.
If not, trust me, it's gonna be on that tomorrow.
And so go to shop Blackstar Network dot Com to
get our gear.

Speaker 3 (02:12:42):
There.

Speaker 4 (02:12:42):
Support the black owned products that are on there as well.
We have black owned products on shop blackstart network dot com.

Speaker 2 (02:12:47):
You can buy direct support.

Speaker 4 (02:12:49):
Those black owned businesses go there as well. And of
course we support the black social media app fan Base
download the app. They've now reached thirteen million of their
ser seventeen million goals Series eight fundraised, there's four million left.
I don't want us just using social media. I want
us us being investors in social media. So we also
can build black wealth because that's how so many white

(02:13:11):
folks have done that as well. We should be doing that,
so get fan based as well. Again, let me think
everybody here. I'm me think all of our commentators on
our panels every single day that made this show possible
for the last seven years. Thank our staff are more
important than anything, every single one of you because y'all watching,
y'all commenting, y'all posting, y'all sharing our content. Is how
we went from one hundred and fifty seven thousand YouTube

(02:13:31):
subscribers to now one point eighty five million, and how
we've been able to build and grow this to hit
a high or some thirty million views a month. And
last point, YouTube's want top one hundred black podcasts. They've
not had that for like three months. There's only two
weeks we were not in the top one hundred. They
reaped the high Speed Reach was number forty and we're
the only black news outlet that is on YouTube's top

(02:13:55):
one hundred. Everybody else is sports and entertainment, and that
shows you the power of black eyeball eyeballs and black voices.

Speaker 2 (02:14:03):
Folks.

Speaker 4 (02:14:04):
I'll see you tomorrow from Atlanta. Thanks for joining us
in our celebrations. Seventh anniversary, fourth anniversary, I'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (02:14:11):
I guess some cupcakes

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