8 Dems Back Shutdown Deal, Face Backlash; Trump Worker Threats, Pardons Allies, Lenny Wilkens Dies

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Speaker 3 (03:06):
Come there, It's Monday, November ten, twenty twenty five, coming
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So look forward to chatting with my Fratt brothers. So
lots to share with you, coming from this country just
off the east coast of the United States. Hey, Democrats
are catching a lot of hell for across of the
aisle to ind the government shut down. They say they're
just being practical, but their own party is calling it
straight up betrayal. We'll have a live look from the floor.

(03:49):
Donald Trump threatened to dock the pay of air traffic
controllers who don't return to work. Remember, they aren't getting paid.
That's why I say Peach, criminally convicted fellam in chief,
is handing out the Christmas presents to his allies. The
convicted fella in chief as partnered seventy seven and fours,
including many who were tied to his efforts to overturn
the twenty twenty e election. Three time NBA Hall of

(04:13):
Famer my offered brother Lenny Wilkins passed away at the
age of eighty eight to celebrate demand, the mentor and
the legacy he left on and off the court. Uh
and of course he of course in the Hall of
Fame as a player and a coach. Plus Charlemagne responded
to my comments. We say the Democratic Party should in
the should end the government shut down? I got somebody

(04:39):
needs to be said. It's time to bring the phone
on Willard Martin on Filcher. I'm a blackstun network. Let's go.

Speaker 7 (04:49):
Seld it whatever it is. He's got fie Helena.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
He's right on top of his.

Speaker 9 (04:57):
Best.

Speaker 7 (04:57):
Believe he's going.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
Fous politics. Just it's golden.

Speaker 7 (05:22):
He's broke, she's real.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Good questions, folks. Here's a live look of the United
States Senate where last night eight Democrats crossed the aisle

(05:47):
to join the Republicans UH to vote on the Continued
Resolution to Fund the Government.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
UH.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Democrats say they extracted a promise from Senate Majority Leader
John Thune if there were there will be actual a vote.
There'll be an actual vote on the Affordable Care Act subsidies,
and so we'll be talking about that. Of course, this
ends the mufflung grid lock, longest in US history. Now

(06:14):
the issue, though is speak of the speak of the
House of Mike Johnson has to call republic has called
the House back because they have to vote on the
Senate bill and then it goes back. So there's all
this sort of stuff that goes on that's taking place
right now now here the eight Democratic senators who cross
the aisle we're talking about, first of all, I'll mention them,

(06:36):
but here's speaking Mike Johnson talking about the end close
to the end of the shutdown.

Speaker 10 (06:42):
The Senate's vote last late last night of sixty to
forty opens the door. Now the Senate is moving forward
on an amended House c R. Continuan Resolution that will
reopen the government until January thirtieth. The Senate will be
back in session this morning to finish their job, and
we're certainly praying that they do. They'll need unanimous consent

(07:02):
from all senators to fast track their final vote. As
you know, there's some procedural hurdles that one or more
could throw in the way, but we certainly hope that
they won't do that because so many people across this
country are desperate for the government to reopen. At the
very moment that they do that final vote, I will
call all House members to return to Washington as quickly

(07:25):
as possible. We'll give a thirty six hour formal and
official notice so that we can vote as soon as
possible to pass the amendency our bill and get it
to the President's desk. As you all know, and he
said as recently as last night. I was with him
and he told the press he said, we want to
get the government opening.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Now, eight Democrats cross and what do they get. They
didn't actually secure anything tangible, only the promise, not a
guarantee that Congress will vote next month on on extending
key healthcare tax credits that Democrats have been fighting for.
House Democratic Leader Hakim Jeffrey said he would fight for
the legislation if it returns to the House for a vote.

Speaker 11 (08:10):
And that's why Democrats have been waging this fight, and
we'll continue to wage this fight no matter what comes
over to us from the United States Senate to the
House of Representatives. At some point this week, our position

(08:31):
as House Democrats has been crystal clear.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
One of the eight Democrats that crossed is the lilltl
Art Senator Dick Dervitt, who is in the Democrat leadership.
He spoke about why he made this decision.

Speaker 12 (08:53):
After lengthy negotiations, an agreement was reached with the Republican
Senate leader John Thune. We will agree to open the
government until January thirtieth, twenty twenty six. During that time,
we will pass three bipartisan appropriation bills that will fully
fund snap Wick and all the veterans programs, and finish

(09:15):
our work on the remaining spending bills for this fiscal year.
The agreement would also reverse the Trump administration's mass firings
during the shutdown and prevent future ones through January thirty thirtieth.
We credit Senator Kane of Virginia for this provision. Leader
Thune has also promised the Democrats an opportunity before mid

(09:38):
December to present a Democratic bill on the floor with
proposals to change the law and protect American families from
dramatic health care premium increases. It is my fervent hope
that this ends up being a bipartisan effort. It would
be such an achievement of the Senate to finally return
to that status. I've served in the Senate for twenty

(10:01):
nine years, and I've never seen that kind of offer
from a Senate majority. During the historic row call last night,
I walked across the aisle and met with Senator John Thunne,
the Republican leader. I told him that I was counting
on him to keep his word on this agreement. He

(10:21):
assured me he would. The fate of this effort depends
on both the Senate and the House of Representatives. After
a seven week absence, the Speaker Johnson needs to call
his members back and join us in the hard work
that lies ahead. Many of my friends are unhappy. They
think we should have kept our government closed indefinitely to

(10:43):
protest the policies of the Trump administration. I share their
opinions of this administration, but cannot accept a strategy which
wages political battle at the expense of my neighbor's paycheck
or the food for his children. Mister President, I yield
the floor.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Last I checked, the Republicans don't actually support extended the subsidies.
They already voted. They took them out in the Big
Ugly Bill. It's the only congred to being a senior
officer or lecture lecture school in the National Service, American University,
author of Lives by Black People, How to Combat Racist

(11:28):
Doctor Diomb Carter, Social Professors, School of Public Policy, University
of Maryland, author of America While Black African Americans, Immigration
and the Limits of Citizenship, and Tyler Manmillan social justice
leader and movement strategies that have all three of you here. So, NEOMBI,
what the hell what I'm kid? What what? What if

(11:50):
they get.

Speaker 7 (11:52):
Nothing? I mean, this is this is the part that
really kind of chased everyone's het. It's like we were
in it, right, It's.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Been for days and we can bear it. It's hard
and it hurts.

Speaker 7 (12:05):
But if there's going to be something at the end
of this, And all they seem to get was, oh,
we'll have a conversation in a couple of months. Still
kicking the can down the road to January. And let's
be clear, once those new healthcare premiums kick in, it's
going to be pretty hard to walk them back. So,
I mean, they got nothing. I mean the I mean,

(12:29):
the main thing that they told us is that they
really care about watching people hurt rather than you know,
staying the course so that people don't hurt over the
longer term. And so if this is what you were
going to do, you should have did this twenty days ago.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
So let me very clear on the congo. If anyone
suggests that all I don't care the people are hurting,
that shar stupidity. On this show, from the date the
inauguration took place, we talked about the attack on federal workers.

(13:14):
On this show, we've literally had union leaders talking about
this very issue, all of the major unions discussing the
impact of federal workers. And so we understand that with
the government shut down that government workers did not we're

(13:36):
not getting paid. Well, Let's also understand what the fight
was for is to make sure the federal government workers
get their back paid well, the boss said, when ain't
doing that. The fight was over getting folks rehired who
were illegally fired, unjustly fired by Trump. That was a

(13:59):
part of this. Healthcare was a part of this. Expanding
step benefits was a part of this. So if you
are a simple signon and you think that this was
only about a health care battle, then you have not
been paying attention not only to what's been happening in

(14:19):
DC other media outlets, but Jadam's trained in the PA
PA attention to this show.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
Yeah, that's absolutely true. And it really sucks man.

Speaker 13 (14:31):
You know, the way we're coming off of, you know,
the elections last last week, and for Mike Johnson and
Dune to basically be right because last week they said, well,
Democrats are pretty much making this noise and after the election,
I'm sure they'll come back around.

Speaker 7 (14:45):
And that's basically and that's what happened.

Speaker 13 (14:47):
And so when you see that the way that they cave,
when you see who came, and when you see Chuck
Schumer pretending.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
Like, oh I voted no, like he didn't really know
what was going on.

Speaker 13 (14:56):
When Shaheen said that they informed him on everything, this
looks absolutely weak on behalf of the Democrats. They successfully
and we all talked about messaging on the show and
how Republicans are always better at them. They successfully throughout
this shutdown, change the narrative. They moved the narrative from
Trump talking about crime, from Trump talking about all.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
Of this other stuff, and they were in control. They
had the.

Speaker 13 (15:18):
People in control in line with them. Everywhere we went,
people were talking about the need to fight and for
them to cave in like this so quickly, it's extremely disappointing.
And yes, like you said, nobody wants to see anybody suffer.
But we know that these Republicans don't give a damn
about health care. We know that they had special sessions
in July to get tax cuts for the wealthy. We

(15:40):
know that over this weekend rolling as they were saying
no snap benefits, and we're going to penalize states and
Trump's head. I'm an penalized states that do this. He
was working to get more tax cuts to the wealthy
and those companies.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
So this is who they are.

Speaker 13 (15:52):
And anything that gets down to even if the Senate
does pass something on healthcare, anything.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
That gets down that our house is going to be
voted down anyway. What what what the hell?

Speaker 7 (16:01):
You know?

Speaker 6 (16:01):
It's like people are so feel so let down.

Speaker 13 (16:03):
And they have a right to be and I don't know,
human needs to he needs to go. Ro Conna's right,
I mean they are he needs to go.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
He is not the leader of that Democrats need in
this moment.

Speaker 13 (16:13):
And anybody who feels like this is a win for Democrats,
particularly long term, they are slavly mistaken. These guys are
not to be trusted, and we're about to find out
once again.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yes, right, Here's here's the other thing, Tyler. The first
Court of Appeal, first of the Quarter of Appills was
gonna be ruining very soon on some that benefits. That
was putting pressure on Donald Trump and his thugs in
the White House. You had folks, and not just people,

(16:42):
not as people who are Democrats, who were galvanized. You
literally had Red state folk, farmers, others who were realizing
how they were getting screwed up for the people who
they were voting for. So by doing this, what you
now signal is that, hey, any.

Speaker 9 (17:03):
Future because let me be real clear, the continued resolution
owns for a few weeks. We're gonna be back here
in a few weeks. So what they've said is, yo, hey,
that is the part of this. It doesn't even matter.
So there's nothing big of an issue.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
So this is going to actually, this compromise is going
to weaken any Democrat effort in the future, in any
future see art any continued resolution.

Speaker 14 (17:31):
Absolutely, because they've been the knee. And I think I think,
as Kannel just said that, like, be real, our soul
car leaders. Uh, if they can't stand firm for the
people they represent, then it's time to primary them out
because we we we are at this point rewarding cowardness
and calling a compromise.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (17:49):
And I think them bending the knee has showed who
they're willing to protect, who they're who they're willing to
give into. And so many, so many Democrats, as we
have seen, have been to the knee and and and
been to the knee of these Republicans and they're out
here making pinky promises like they're at the kids on
the playground, And I think we can't afford to give

(18:10):
into the what they're to what they're saying, because people's
paychecks are on the lines, food is on the line,
people's dignity or is on the line. And I think
it's not just about policy, but it's about priorities, and
we can't compromise on humanity. We don't negotiate over whether
families get food on their table, whether kids get childcare,
or folks can afford their medicine, or whether folks, you know,

(18:33):
have the dignity to be able to you know, not
lose their jobs or based off of a you know,
a political standoff. And so I think, you know, we
have been to the knee and I think Democrats have
shown that, and I think it's time for us to
for new leadership and for us to be real about
this moment in primaries.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Folks out.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Well. The problem here is that the folks the AID
are not for re election in twenty twenty six, motion
up for reelection to twenty thirty, and people really need
to understand what this broader battle was. This was a
much broader battle on me, on me and people. It

(19:16):
wasn't just healthcare, and again people also have to understand
the new on sense of this. So yes, people started
getting letters saying their health care was was going to
be increasing, but often enrollment for the Affordable Care Act
it's also happening as well, And so the real issue

(19:39):
is what action could be done before January, not some
letters rolling out in September, right.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
And I think one of the things that you said, Roland,
I think we have to always think about this is
that our memories have to be longer than our wallets, right,
that we have to remember this moment because there was
all of this good will right coming out of last week.
As Oma Congo rightly pointed out that there was all
of this momentum that they had that people said, Okay,

(20:08):
look we may not like all the Democrats all the time,
but clearly they're doing something right. And in one week,
in one fail schoop, they squandered all of that. And
some people are making a cynical bet right that because
they're not facing reelection, that we will forget this. But
I think we have to make it our business to
stand on their next and make sure we don't forget

(20:28):
this because, as you said, it's not just about the
policy that's here. I think Tyler made a really important
point about people's dignity and acknowledging the humanity that is
at the center of all policy, that should be at
the center of any politics in this country, but that
we have to remember that who we are as people
has to be bigger than these parties and has to

(20:50):
be bigger than these individuals. We might look kindly at
some of these people, we might remember what they did
way back when, but like Jana said, what have you
done for me lately? In that needs to be what
our calling card is now. That needs to be the
calling card at the midterms, and that needs to be
the calling card at the next senatorial elections. Some of
these people don't need to be there anymore. They are

(21:12):
more concerned about their own office and potentially about their
own ability to stay in that office is comfy place
to be right than they are with making sure that
the humans on the other end of those offices are
being served. So absolutely primary these people absolutely look at

(21:32):
all possible candidates right, all possible representatives, but also look
to what we can do in our state and local elections.
Because as we saw on Tuesday, those are going to
be huge, and many of the things that we care about,
we just are not going to be able to rely
on a federal response, especially because the authoritarianism that is

(21:53):
at the heart of all of this is also something
that we're going to be dealing with, not just in
this moment, but in the in the decades to come,
because that's also being cultivated right now.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
And on the congo. The thing we we have to
understand here that same bill had almost a trillion dollar
cuts for Medicaid. So I need people to understand this
fight was solely not a single issue. It was multiple issues.
It impacts millions of Americans.

Speaker 13 (22:27):
Absolutely, And when I was watching your interview with refend
Barber last week, one of the things that he mentioned
was like everywhere he goes, the people get it. They
understand what's being fought for, even with the struggles that
they're having. And he constantly talked about the need for
Democrats to put these faces in front of everybody so
that they can see what's happening at every different level.

(22:48):
They don't do that on a consistent basis. He talked
about the need for us to let democrats know that
we want them to keep fighting. We've been doing that,
We've been talking about that. But these guys and look, yeah,
these guys may not be up for election for two
to four whatever years, but Schumer.

Speaker 6 (23:02):
Can resign his position tomorrow. You know what I'm saying.
It's like people need to put pressure on him to go.

Speaker 13 (23:08):
And so the fact of the matter is that these Democrats, yes,
they understood that Trump is all about the single message,
the single word, and so that they focused it on healthcare,
but they also knew that it was about more than that.
But then they just give up and caved and basically say, well,
we're going to get our vote, and Republicans are going
to be put on record.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
They already been on record.

Speaker 13 (23:26):
They've been trying to kill Obamacare forever Trump that hasn't
had a policy, he's only had concept of a plan
since he came onto the scenes that were going on
ten years now, as it relates to him, they've shown
their hand from beginning to end. They're going to do
more to protect and wealthy, to protect the insurance companies,
to protect the people who run these hospitals, who are these.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
Mega millions, you know, millionaires and billionaires, and not.

Speaker 13 (23:45):
Give a damn about the people, all while Trump is
going down to Marral Logo on taxpayer dollars to live
his life lavishly, a cash Fortel and Christyn Nooman all
of that. So when you talk about the fact that
there were so many other areas of this bill that
Democrats needed to be focused on, it seems to me
rolling that we the people, we knew that, we got that,
we understood that because we were living in regularly. But

(24:07):
these eight Democrats are just so out of touch that
they didn't fully give a damn about enough of us
to want to continue.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
And that's where they failed us once again.

Speaker 13 (24:16):
And lastly, the fact that everybody predicted this, Democrats, Republicans,
democratic commentators, liberal outlets, Republican outlets, they all could said
that Democrats were going to cave right after the election,
and here we are.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
So Tyler, let's talk some numbers. This is from the
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. You see, this is
what happens when you don't give the full picture of
a full context. So federal workers, are we concerned with
those families and lack of paychecks? Absolutely, But I want

(24:55):
to run the numbers here, y'all there are two point
two million federal works. There are forty two million Americans
getting staff benefits. According to these Center on Budget and
Policy Priorities, that law cuts one point one trillion dollars

(25:17):
from Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act marketplaces. Not only
that uppers of twenty million people will not have healthcare,
CBO estimates that ten million people will become uninsured due
to Medicaid and ACA marketplace cuts in the law, including
seven point five million people who will lose medicated in

(25:38):
twenty and thirty four. An additional four point two million
will lose marketplace coverage because the law failed to extend
the premium task Credit enhancements, which lower annual premiums by
more than seven hundred bucks in average people who received them.
So they talk about the pain of federal workers, which
I totally understand, and we've been talking about their plight

(26:00):
four months. But we're also talking about this bill impacting
forty two million with snap twenty plus billion with a
healthcare right there alone, we're now talking to sixty million people.
That those are also real numbers.

Speaker 14 (26:21):
That's right, exactly, It's a much bigger picture as you
even laid it out and I continue to say this again,
like you don't compromise on humanity or you know, you're
what ground you you don't negotiate over whether families get
to eat, whether you know, elders get their medicine, or
whether children have roofs over their head or you.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Know, childcare.

Speaker 14 (26:44):
And Democrats are out here looking reasonable instead of being
righteous for the things that we know we deserve in
this moment with our families and deserved, what our children
deserve is that safety.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
This fight was about dignity.

Speaker 14 (26:56):
It's about saying that basic survival shouldn't be negotiable. Uh,
that food and housing, UH, and safety net programs and
fair pay aren't bargaining chips. But instead, uh, we should
be reminded that democracy means that we take care of
each other, not you know, take away the things that
we know we need to survive. And the fact that
you know, as you said, this is a much bigger

(27:17):
picture and Democrats are been into the knee. It just
shows that there are they really in it for a
righteous fight, but instead here trying to just look reasonable
and looking and look like the savior and in this
moment does not require that it requires that we you know,
stand up and fight for the things that we know
we deserve, because in the long haul, we already know

(27:38):
who will get the short end of the stick. And
right now the fight is about ensuring that we get
our share the pie. Uh even as we even as
we reopen.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
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Speaker 3 (28:26):
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Speaker 3 (29:01):
Hello.

Speaker 17 (29:02):
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you're watching the Black Star Networks.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Let's go a while in the falling nine to State
Senate where Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
You're speaking remiums, let us not pave the way for
fifteen million Americans to lose their health care entirely because
of savage cuts to medicate all she was asking.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Now, I noticed that recently.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Some of my Republican colleagues are beginning to talk about
the healthcare crisis. Well, during Trump's first four years, he
had virtually nothing to say about the crisis, nothing to
say about it in the next four years. But I'm
glad that there is some discussion. The truth of the
matter is, in my view, that the current healthcare system

(29:59):
is broken, It is dysfunctional, and it is cruel. But
I want to ask my Republican friends with simple question,
are you happy with the fact that here in the
United States we are the only major country not to
guarantee healthcare every man, woman, and child.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
We are unique.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
That's not the kind of exceptionalism we should be proud of.
Are you happy that we are paying twice as much
per capita for healthcare over fourteen thousand dollars per person
than any other major country, and yet we have eighty
five million Americans who are uninsured or underinsured. Are you

(30:42):
content with the fact that the insurance companies and the
drug companies are making huge profits paying their CEO's exorbitant salaries.

Speaker 18 (30:53):
Are you happy with that? Are you happy that patients in.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
America have to get on the phone and fight like
crazy and deal with all kinds the bureaucrats in order
to get the healthcare that they paid for in an
incredibly complicated, broken system. So if you want to have
a debate about healthcare, let's have that debate. I happen
to believe that we should join the rest of the

(31:17):
industrialized world guarantee healthcare all people through a Medicare for
all single payer system.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
You got a better idea of bring it forward.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
But what we should agree upon is that a don't
raise premiums by one hundred percent or in some cases
triple or quadruple. Let's take a deep breath, Let's extend
these ACA subsidies for another year. Let's have that debate
on healthcare. That's what the American people want. And with that,

(31:52):
mister President, I would yield to the Senator for Michigan.

Speaker 19 (31:57):
Thank you, Center for Michigan, Thank you, mister President Marise
today in support of Ms. Baldwin's amendment on a clean
one year extension of the healthcare dot gov credits since July,
I'd been really clear, if you want me to vote
on a deal, it's got to do something to bring

(32:17):
down the cost of healthcare because of the healthcare crisis
that Republicans in this chamber precipitated back in July, just
to review the bidding in July, the big beautiful bill
which all of you voted for, most of you voted for,
slashed Medicaid and slashed coverage for people.

Speaker 7 (32:38):
On healthcare dot gov.

Speaker 19 (32:40):
Now all our hospitals, all our healthcare systems, all our
nursing homes. Everybody accepted that and started to plan.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
In response to.

Speaker 19 (32:49):
That, the hospital said, well, look, people are still going
to come, They're still going to get in car accidents,
they're still going to have heart attacks. They're just not
going to be covered by health insurance. So we're going
to have to try charge the people with insurance even
more money. So we are now at a point this
crisis that's been precipitated has led to the fact that
every single American, everyone watching, everyone listening, is either facing

(33:13):
losing their health insurance or paying more. And that includes
people on private employer provided insurance. When we take a
step back and we look at all the people that
are going to fall off healthcare, all the healthy young
people who are not going to pay for healthcare anymore.
It looks like across at least my state, every single
person is looking at their prices doubling. Not just the

(33:35):
people who are affected by the big, beautiful bill, but
the bill payers, the people on private health insurance.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Now, no one in this.

Speaker 19 (33:43):
Room would say that we are paying too little for
healthcare right now. And I don't always agree with Senator Sanders,
but I can say there is no more broken system
in America than healthcare right now. It needs full rebuilding.
They disagree on some of the ways to do it,
but the Republicans have offered zero plan, zero ideas help.

(34:07):
Marjorie Taylor Green is talking about how Republicans don't have
a plan. Never thought I'd be agreeing with her. So today,
all we're asking for is a clean one year extension.
No one says Obamacare is perfect. No one says a
clean extension is perfect. But you have pushed people back
into a corner. You have said we're going to pay

(34:28):
for our tax cuts on the backs of everyday Americans
by using their healthcare as the bail payer, So can
we do a one year extension please, so that we
can have some kind of conversation, a real conversation that
the American people expect people of our stature to be having.
Can we have that conversation over the next year, but

(34:48):
not in some cases have people's health insurance go up
by six hundred percent, That is what you have precipitated.
So to every American watching, whether you're on healthcare dot
gov or you're on private insurance, if you're getting those letters,
if you're getting those notifications of an increase of your
bill of two hundred five hundred eight hundred dollars starting
January one, my peers on the other side of the

(35:10):
aisle are the ones you should lay at there.

Speaker 7 (35:12):
It should lay it at their feet, because they have
put us in this place.

Speaker 19 (35:16):
And if they vote tonight against this, it's because they
don't give a crap about the cost of your healthcare.
They don't give one single crap about it. So I
hope my colleagues find it in their hearts to say,
let's fix the system. Fine, but at least for now,
give us a one year extension so we can have
a real conversation with that.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
I you back, mister President Sarah Wisconsin.

Speaker 20 (35:42):
I move to table Amendment three nine four seven for
the purposes of offering my amendment to extend ACA tax
credits for one year. That's Baldwin three nine five zero,
and I ask for.

Speaker 7 (35:56):
The A's and A's.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Sufficients Act. There appears to be clerk will call the roll.

Speaker 21 (36:05):
Is Austin Brooks is Baldwin, mister Banks, mister Barrasso, mm hm,

(36:35):
mister Bennett.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
So the so the roll call has been roll call
has been taken on a particular boat. Here will see
exactly what takes place. More than likely, uh, it will fail.
And so uh that's what we got here. And about
mind is this here? You know, this idea of extending
it for a year. Republicans don't want to do that.

(37:05):
And that's what this all boils down to, Tyler. This
is very simple. We can sit here and be performed
because say, oh my god, we should extend it for
a year. They just took it out. So the only
way it gets extended for a year if a bunch
of these broke ass white folks in these red states
blow up their senators and say, hey, don't you vote

(37:28):
against this. We'll see what happens. I don't think for
a second that they are going to change their minds. So, okay, great,
we have a vote. We'll have a vote a month
from now, and we know Republicans be like, yeah, we're good.
And here's the other thing. This is the crazy thing here, Tyler. Okay,
let's just say, let's just say you get eight senators

(37:54):
to go along with Republican senators to go along with Democrats.
Tim Yahoo's in the House, don't pass it. So guess what,
We're back at same place, literally at the same place.

Speaker 14 (38:08):
And I think even watching like a senator Bernie Centers
in the middle of this, I think him being clear
and standing strong on what many what many others are
voting on, if you're.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Talking about health care.

Speaker 14 (38:19):
Uh, while a lot of a lot of senators are
too busy calculating the polls. I think senators and leaders
like Bernie Sanders are fighting for the basic principle of
what we say we're fighting for.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
We're fighting for working.

Speaker 14 (38:31):
People, for struggling families, for the federal workers, and uh,
you know how they would make it through. And know,
he's not a he's not a perfect I don't think
he's a perfect you know, Senator, I think what sysimate
part is his consistency.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
He's been saying the same thing for decades.

Speaker 14 (38:46):
And people deserve dignity, they deserve healthcare, they deserve food
like food is not a luxury, and billionaires, you're not
profit off of the people's pain. And I think we
need more leaders like that to say enough is enough
and and stand strong and what we know. But like
I said, what we see here is just routine that
people are playing politics people's lives coming from a month

(39:06):
from now, we're going to be right back here, we're
having the same discussion. I think we just need a
more universal system, as you know, to talk about healthcare
being a right not a privilege, where we're not back
in the.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Same voat again, bomb line here. If you do not
fight to the end on the congo, you're not going
to win, especially when you are in the minority.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
Yes, real talk, that's real talk.

Speaker 13 (39:45):
And it just gets so unfortunate, especially when I look
at the voter turnout numbers, the way black folks came out.
Just so many people we talked about the ninety million
didn't come out.

Speaker 18 (39:55):
You know.

Speaker 13 (39:55):
In the last election, people were energized they were motivated,
and I can just hear just thousands of thousands of
people saying, well, what was the point? And even if
they vote for this thing to uh, you know, to
extend for a year, that kind of takes it out
of discussion until like after the midterms, right, And so
the Democrats could be continually using this for more and

(40:17):
more fire going forward. I think that coming off of
no Kings, coming off of the elections, and they're like,
these Democrats need to find their way once again.

Speaker 6 (40:27):
And I'm just concerned.

Speaker 13 (40:29):
I'm just nervous when I see Alyssa's locking up there
making it clear that she doesn't agree with Bernie Sanders
on everything, like that's not obvious. But then out there
like oh yeah, and I'm saying they're greening and Marjorie
Taylor green It's like these.

Speaker 6 (40:41):
Guys keep wanting to try to play both sides.

Speaker 13 (40:43):
They keep trying to want to appeal to people who
don't give a damn about them. At the end of
the day, these Republicans will do anything to get rid
of Americans having any access to any semblance of healthcare
that they have.

Speaker 6 (40:56):
They'll never go universal, we know that, but any other
aspect of it.

Speaker 13 (41:00):
And of course with Trump talk at the top because
he hates Obama anything relating to Obama.

Speaker 6 (41:04):
Does Obama care? This is who they are, So why
not hold out? Why not fight?

Speaker 13 (41:09):
And yes there would have been challenges with you know, travel,
those travel over the problems over the weekend, and they're like,
but this is what America needs right now. This was
the one area of flex that their Democrats had, not
being in the majority, and they absolutely blew it. And
I don't know what they're going to do to get
themselves back on track, or if they can get themselves
back on track.

Speaker 6 (41:28):
I don't have a solution for them.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Roland Leo made the mistake that people make is by saying, oh,
this was about politics, This is about Tuesday's election, This
is about getting poll numbers up. No, it's literally about
life and death. There are people in this country who
starve due to food shorges. Reverend Bishop William barber To says,

(41:52):
some thirty thousand Americans every single year. There are people
who are going to die who don't have health care.
So this is life and death. And so it's a mistake.
Listen to these right wing hacks and others who say, oh,
it's all politics. Its all politics. Well, guess what politics
is also life and death, And so what you want

(42:13):
in politics are folks who are fighting and advocating on
behalf of the things that matter to regular ordinary people.

Speaker 7 (42:21):
And I'm glad you said that, Roland, because I think
too often we treat politics like a game like you know,
you root for your team, My root for my team.
But at the end of it, always at the end
of it, and at the center of it should always
be the people that we are there to serve as
politicians or their supporters or whomever. Right that these people
aren't doing something that's great and mystical. Their job is

(42:44):
literally to be there to serve people, and when they're
not doing their job, we have to hold them accountable.
Far too often we treat this sort of as gamesmanship
and not think about the real consequences. And what we
have in this country is not a failure of resources,
failure of imagination. We have a moral failing because we
have not served the least of us right. And we've

(43:08):
not done that for a variety of reasons. I mean,
we didn't get here by accident, I guess, is what
I'm trying to say. We got here because we've treated
our politics like just a game of power and brinksmanship
instead of remembering what public service is all about. And
while members of Congress and others are well paid, and

(43:29):
they get subsidized health coverage on our dime, and they've
been collecting their checks every day that they've not been
working or legislating or doing anything that they're in Washington
to do. While they are able to sort of move
through the world with platitudes, et cetera, the rest of
us are the ones who kind of reap the whirlwind
of the choices that they make or don't And so

(43:52):
I think we always have to remember that this is
not just about power. This is not just about who
can get what form their constituents or justin selves. This
is about all of us. And the politics we have, unfortunately,
are the politics that many of us signed up for. Right,
Many people signed up for politics that that was not empathetic,

(44:15):
for politics of mean, for politics that really try to
stick it to certain communities of people, black folks, Latino folks,
Native folks, other indigenous communities, poor folks. Right, we have
had a politics that is said said, you know, all
of you are unworthy of very basic needs. And when

(44:38):
it comes home in the way that it has, I mean,
I had the opportunity, the privilege really to serve people
at a food bank this weekend, and the number of
people that were showing up were I'm sure people who
never expected to literally be going to a food bank
to receive food. And that shows you that all of
us could be in this position just because somebody in

(45:01):
Washington or wherever has made a decision that our lives
don't matter and that we don't count and we're not
important enough for them to stay up at night and
for them to do the hard thing and give some
ground if it means we can.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
All eat.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Well said all right, folks. Speaking of that, The shutdown
resulted in more than seventeen hundred flights being canceled and
more than forty five hundred flights being delayed across the
nation as the FAA in post capacity limits at forty
major airports. Well, Donald Trump is turning up the pressure
by now threatening air traffic controllers to get back to work.

(45:39):
Trump's call them unpatriotic, while praising those who stay on
the job as true patriots. He's recommending a bonus of
ten thousand dollars per person for distinguished service to our
country and warning that anyone still out to lose pay.
Transporations Secretary Sean Duffy is urging controllers to show up
for work and promising to reward those who do well.
Isn't that interest on in Congo because they've been running

(46:03):
people away. The number of people who are retiring because
of these idiots had skyrocketed. They came in trying to
blame DEI for the plane crash in Washington, DC. And
then of course when it was all of a sudden like,
oh it was white folk, should the volve, Oh mighty,
go ahead and just take your mind on that. And

(46:24):
so they had been lying over and over and over
again and trying to put everything on former Department Gratuitation
and Secretary of Peter Blue Judge when it's like, nah,
it's y'all. And so they're showing the US exactly who
they are. And also Trump, you just can't hand out
ten thousand dollars because any budget allocation got to be
approved by the House first. Yeah.

Speaker 13 (46:47):
Absolutely, this is just Trunk once again trying to run
America like it's one of his corporations, you know, just
saying oh, come back, I'll pay this, I'll do that,
get back your treators, and so on and so forth.

Speaker 6 (46:57):
That's not how it works.

Speaker 13 (46:58):
When people saw what was coming down the pipe of
this potential shutdown, people started filling out, you know, their
sick day leaves that they were going to have. People
started thinking about, shoot, I need to start thinking about
another industry because I don't know when we're going to
get back to work. And then of course at Wilso
talking about we don't even know if we're going to
get back paid. I'm sure that there are many people
within that industry who are already gone and are just

(47:21):
not coming back because they found some other type of
work or are looking for some other type of work,
because we can be in another shutdown if they figure
this one out this week, we can be in another
shutdown in January. So this idea that people are just
going to come back because Trump ordered it, So it's
just not how it works. And like you said, starting
from its administration in the beginning, they were already pushing
people out with all of their DEI nonsense. We're going
to have the best people.

Speaker 6 (47:42):
In all of that.

Speaker 13 (47:43):
And then we also know that when it comes to
the type of training that these guys need. It takes months,
you know, sometimes years for certain types of positions to
be able to be up there. You think people who
have like you know, disabilities are going to want to
come and work for this guy after they're saying you
can't have some guy in the wheelchair doing the flight
navigation stuff, like all of the ignorant and stupid stuff

(48:04):
and disrespectful stuff that they said, and then on top
of that, you start.

Speaker 6 (48:07):
Messing with their money by.

Speaker 13 (48:09):
What you did with they shut down, and then you
have somebody who's incompetent at the top with Sean Duffy, like,
this is not an industry that if I did work
in it, I would leave it and never come back.
Because these guys have no appreciation for these individuals and
Trump distincts. He can wave a magic wand and make
everything back the way it was before, when they were
already problems with it before they made this worse. This

(48:31):
is their doing, and they refuse to take responsibility for it.
And I support these workers one thousand percent of whatever
they decide because they need our support more than anybody.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
And let's just be real clear, they're running off very
talented people, tily in the Department of Defense and that
second House helping human services. All across the government. We
literally have row incompetent people running the government and they
are destroying institutions because they're petty, they're petulant, and they're pathetic.

Speaker 14 (49:12):
You said, you said it perfectly, and I think what
we see here is clearly a clear sign of tyranny.
It's a direct tack on working people, many who are
already underpaid and overworked.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
And this is not leadership.

Speaker 14 (49:26):
Is really he really trying to pull the bully card
on them and tell him to as you said, like
like like this is uh the apprentice or something. And
I think this is even a bigger a bigger call
of a movement of saying why we need unions and
why we fight for unions and labor labor organizers because
UH standing up for the people who are literally the

(49:47):
working class people of this country. Uh, it's it's important
that we stand with uh the air traffic controllers because
this is literally a direct attack on working class people.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
M Nimbi And I was going.

Speaker 7 (50:03):
To say anything. Part of this is just a fundamental
misunderstanding of what air traffic controllers do.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Right.

Speaker 7 (50:09):
They keep us alive every time they get on the plane,
so their jobs are actually super essential. In the fact
that you would disrespect these people at all, I think
speaks to the ways that Donald Trump just doesn't see
people who aren't wealthy like him as real human beings.
Air traffic controllers aside, though, I mean, there are thousands

(50:30):
of federal employees who do a job every day and
do it well, who are professionals who go to work.
I see them in my classrooms, I know them in
my personal lives. I've been one at different points in
my life and take their jobs extremely seriously. In the
way that they have just been disrespected and talk to
like these people have not worked their entire professional lives

(50:54):
for something. Because many of the people that are in
federal service right now are in there because they actually
do want to work for the public. These are people
who could have made a lot more money in private industry,
but for with that because they believed in the mission
of this country, and you had them turned out so
in the ways that you know, we were just this
government was just taking this sort of hatchet to the

(51:17):
entire governmental infrastructure with not a care for our health
or safety or the sanctity of those employees and what
they give every day and what they sacrifice. I think
it's a total insult. This man was born wealthy, you know,
born on third and feels like he hit a triple
every day that he lives, and just doesn't recognize what

(51:41):
it means to put together a career and a life
in the ways that many federal employees, from military to
air traffic controllers have done every day. And I think
it's a real sign of disrespect when the people who
actually prop you up and make your executive agency run,
make your executive branch of government run, can't even expect

(52:03):
you to defend them and support them in what it
is they do. Because the mission of the President's office
and all those executive agencies doesn't happen if it's not
for regular working bureaucrats who do that job every day.
And we'd say that like it's a dirty word, but
bureaucrats are the unsung heroes of this country and have
been for a very long time. And I think this

(52:26):
administration has sort of helped to dim the view of
those people. And let's be clear, some people we will
never get back. Those experts are never coming back right.
Those people who could help chosen Ian public service will
never do it because of this administration. So the damage
is going to be there for a very long time.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Absolutely, are got to go to break we come back
the Thug in Chief partners more of its crownies. Yeap
that actually happens? And why does truth matter in everything
that we say and do? I'll have a response to
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Speaker 7 (53:48):
On the other side of change book fans, anti intellectualism,
and Trump's continued war on wisdom.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
This is a coordinated backlash to progress.

Speaker 22 (53:57):
At the end of the day, conservatives realized that they
couldn't win a debate on facts.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
We started using our language against us. Right, Remember when
we were all woke and the woke movement and.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
All that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Now everything is anti woke.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Right when we were talking about including.

Speaker 22 (54:11):
Diversity, equity, inclusion, higher education, Now it's antidi all this
our efforts to suppress the truth because truth empowered people.

Speaker 7 (54:19):
You're watching the other side of change only on the
Black Start network.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Garl Hey pretending to be Roland Martin.

Speaker 8 (54:26):
You ain't got to work black and gold every damn place, Okay, ooh,
I'm an out for yay.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
All right, you're fifty eight years old.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
It's over.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Then you are now watching Roland Martin unfiltered, uncut, unplugged,
and undamn believable. We all know Donald Trump is a thug,

(55:01):
and that thug enlisted other thugs to help him try
to steal the twenty twenty election. They lied, they made
stuff up, they did all of that. Now Donald Trump,
now mind you those white domestic terrorists who he loved.

(55:22):
On January sixth, he partned them. Now he's partnering the
volte who were part of the quote stopped to steal,
who themselves were actually trying to steal. Seventy seven people
he parted. The list includes really Juliani, from a White

(55:43):
House Chief of staff, Mark Medows, and several of the
so called alternate electors who attempted to certify Trump's lost
as a win. Listen to this joke of a statement
these fools sent out at the White House. They called
a mucal an end to a grave natural injustice any
stepped towards reconciliation. Really, so this is the same guy

(56:05):
who let go of the old keepers, the proud boys,
the racist Oh, let's be real clear. The it's on
a federal level. This does not touch those who've been
charged on the state level. And let's be real clear
on the Congo Sidney Powell and others. Oh, these idiots

(56:28):
have lost their law licenses, Giuliani. See Trump can give
you a parton on federal crimes. Guess what that part?
You can't get your law license back in California or
in Colorado, or we're in Washington, DC, and so these
idiots chose to give up their entire livelihood. But that

(56:51):
con Man and so all he was doing right here
is showing us how much of a thug he is
with his latest partners.

Speaker 6 (57:02):
Yeah, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 13 (57:03):
I was watching an interview with Iced over the weekend
and he said that Trump has more friends in jail
than he does and I'm like, wow, that really.

Speaker 6 (57:12):
Says a lot. I mean with this guy, he is
the master of mob black tactics.

Speaker 13 (57:19):
And what he's really doing is that he's also showing
other people going forward that if they represent him in
any way, shape or form and stick up for him
in some way, shape or form, he will get part.
They will get a parton What's like Ken Martin's the
mindset that he says a or he says a no
maga left behind, you know, his pardon attorney whatever, his
title ist, no maga left behind. That's their mindset. I

(57:43):
look at if the guy who went at HAKEM. Jeffreys,
you know, gets convicted, they'll probably pardon him as well.
This is who they are and this is who they are.
But you're absolutely right, Rolin, there are other consequences that
go beyond whether Trump pardons you or not, or whether
you don't go to jail or not.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
You can be just far.

Speaker 13 (58:00):
You can lose your medical license, you can have trouble
finding jobs if you don't have the skills to be
able to be on somebod these news networks like a
Fox or these networks, and it's not news like Fox
and look good for the cameras. You're not going to
be able to find work, and people need to be
mindful of it. And I believe that's why people like
Marjorie Taylor Green are starting to slowly distance themselves from

(58:20):
mad That, even though the media needs to hold her
more accountable for her actions as well, because they realize
that riding this Trump bandwagon can only get you so far.
And so yeah, Ruder Juliani, fine, you got part in,
but you can't practice law anymore. So there are so
many situations and stories. What about the guy who he
said grab him in the P word to write boysch
or something, where's his career? Like so many people that

(58:43):
attach themselves to him, in the long run, they end
up getting destroyed. And that's the greater lesson that people
should know who enter Trump's orbit because they get his
former fixer Michael Cohen right because they get so caught
up in the lure of it, but they don't realize
that he only gives a damn about himself, and some
of them don't realize that until it's too late.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
It's real, simple, Tyler, this corrupt thug. He has pardon
a whole bunch of people who are thugs, who are corrupt,
who have been found guilty by juries by judges of fraud.
So guess what, Donald Trump is happy. He's right at

(59:27):
home with this rogues list of individuals.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
Absolutely.

Speaker 14 (59:34):
And I think as I think about this, I hold
space and think about the many black folks who continue
to fill prisons for nonviolent, offensive, minor mistakes and basic
system inequalities, while Trump here just hands out pardon to
those who do really try to overthrow our government in
our democracy. And I think this just shows the two

(59:55):
tier system that we talk about like it's one for them,
it's one for us. And it's the same system them
that punishes black protesters and organizers for marching for justice,
while Trump now just gives out part into insurrectionists for
breaking it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
And so I think it just makes it more clear of.

Speaker 14 (01:00:13):
The system that we talk about, the two system, two
tier system. And uh, like I said, if there's folks
that are sitting behind bars, who who didn't do nothing,
and yet here we are folks that have tried to
overthrow our government is getting a.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Pass and you know, slapping the risk. So it just
it's very frustrating to see.

Speaker 14 (01:00:32):
But I said, I think it shows folks where where
folks priorities are.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
I'm bringing a couple of items here, so give me
one second bomb line here. He's a crooked nambie, he's
a thug, he's corrupt, he's fraudulent, and so he is
right at home with the people who were themselves convicted
of fraud.

Speaker 7 (01:01:11):
Oh absolutely, which was why I thought Doge was so
hilarious talking about they're going about after waste fraud abuse.
I'm like, it's in the White House. You don't have
to look far. I mean, listen, this man is collecting
people's reputations and professions like infinity stones. And it's always
interestings me how quickly people are willing to sacrifice themselves

(01:01:31):
for this man. He comes out unscathed, it seems like
every single time, Yet everybody else is reaping the whirlwind
of being his henchmen and are happy.

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
To do it, it seems.

Speaker 7 (01:01:43):
I mean, you know, you look at a person like
a Rudy Giuliani, who twenty years ago, right could do
no wrong. He was America's mayor, riding high after you
know the tragedy of September eleventh and what he was
able to do in that city, but even before that
his career as a prosecutor, to then find himself under
investigation by some of those same offices, right, I mean,

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this is how quickly that tide can turn. And I
think something you rightly pointed out Roland is that none
of these people are safe from state charges. There is
no office you can go back to restore your reputation.
Your professional career is gone. No one in your profession
takes you seriously. And what do you have left? Because
many of these people are not young even right, They

(01:02:27):
don't have more life ahead of them than they do
behind them, unfortunately, So what does the rest of their
life look like?

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Now?

Speaker 7 (01:02:34):
I'm not crying in many rivers. I don't think any
of them are probably hurting financially or whatever. I can't
speak on their finances, but I mean, you look around
and all that's left are ashes because you burned your career,
your reputation, your morality at the altar of this man
who cares no more about you, because once you cease

(01:02:56):
being useful to Donald Trump, he's done with you. And
all of these people are done. Essentially, this was their
partying gift, this pardon.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Oh yeah, that's exactly what it is. And so listen,
the thugs are happy because one of their own is
sitting in the Oval office. All right, going to break,
we come back. I have told y'all, these folks want
to steal as many elections as possible. They want to

(01:03:29):
steal the twenty twenty six bad terms, they want to
steal the twenty twenty eight presidential election. And as in
the Supreme Court has decided to hear a case out
of Louisiana, excuse me, out of Mississippi that could have
massive implications when it comes to mail in voting. I
will explain when we come back. Roland Martin unfilcher on

(01:03:52):
the Black Star Network.

Speaker 7 (01:03:57):
Side for Doctor Jackie. We continue on our series of
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Speaker 23 (01:04:02):
Are you an aspiring chef someone who already has a
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Next steps will be, who to talk to, and how
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On this week's show, our great guests and wonderful chef
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Why of being in the kitchen and then knowing how
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The menu controls everything, It determines.

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The menu determines everything, but the business plan is where
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You get into the business.

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At the end of the day, you know, social media
and TV, all of that stuff is cool, but you
still have to run a business, so you still have
to be in relationship with people.

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That's all.

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Next on a Bounce likee with Doctor Jackie Here on
Black Star Network.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Next on the Black Tape with me gread.

Speaker 8 (01:04:49):
The United States is the most dangerous place for a
woman to give birth among all industrialized nations on the planet.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Think about that for a second.

Speaker 8 (01:05:00):
Black women are three times more likely to die in
this country during childbirth than white women.

Speaker 7 (01:05:06):
These healthcare systems are inherently racist.

Speaker 17 (01:05:10):
There are a lot of white supremacists, ideas and mythologies
around black women, black women's.

Speaker 7 (01:05:16):
Bodies, even black people that we experience paying less right.

Speaker 8 (01:05:20):
Activist organizers and fearless freedom fighter Monifa Aknole Bandelay from
Moms Rising joins us and tells us this shocking phenomenon,
like so much else, is rooted in unadulterated racism.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
And that's just one of her fights.

Speaker 8 (01:05:38):
Malfa Bandelay on the next Black Table here on the
Black Star.

Speaker 11 (01:05:41):
Network, Michael McMillan, President and CEO of the Urban League
of Metropolitan Saint Louis.

Speaker 6 (01:05:49):
And you were watching Roland Martin Unfiltered.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
How much times have I told y'all the right does
not want you to vote. They don't want you to
vote with ballot drop boxes. They don't want you to
vote absentee, they don't want you to vote early, they
don't want you to vote by mail. And now this

(01:06:28):
right wing Supreme Court has chosen to take up a
case out of Mississippi that deals with the very issue
of mail in balloty. Yeah, this is real. They are
taking up a lawsuit to decide whether states can keep

(01:06:50):
counting mail ballots that arrive after election day, a process.
Donald Trump as loudly condemned the case feels from Mississippi,
where Trump appointed judges ruled the state's post election day
ballot law violates a federal statute. Eighteen states in DC

(01:07:12):
currently allow late arriving ballots if they are post marked
by election day, including battlegrounds like Nevada in places like Oregon.
In Colorado, a ruling is expected by June, just months
before the twenty twenty six bit terms, and it could
reshape how millions of votes are counted. Now. Remember I

(01:07:35):
told y'all Paul Wyvery, one of the founders of the
Moral Majority, founder of the hair in this Foundation. He
gave a speech in Dallas in nineteen eighty one where
he made it clear where they stand when it comes
to everyone voting.

Speaker 18 (01:07:59):
How many of our Christians have what I call the
goo goo syndrome good government. They want everybody to vote.
I don't want everybody to vote. Elections are not won
by a majority of people. They never have been from
the beginning of our country, and they are not now.
As a matter of fact, are on leverage, and the

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elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
See. Trump is still pissed off because in twenty sixteen,
the judges in Pennsylvania allowed those ballots to be counted.
In fact, these people are so awful Yumbi that they
don't give a damn if military votes come in late.

(01:08:55):
They're like, yeah, don't enn count them as well. They
their goal is very simple. If we could freeze out
as many people as possible, we've been a shot at winning.
Republicans have been on a record as saying that if
fewer people vote, we win.

Speaker 7 (01:09:16):
In Mississippi as well as any other man as many
other places. Excuse me, because we know what this has done,
what mail and ballots have done to bringing more people
into the electoral process, especially folks who live in rural communities.
We know what it does for indigenous folks who live
in reservations right, the fact that they don't have to
travel as far, they don't have to wait in those
long lines. It makes it a more attractive option to participate. Well,

(01:09:40):
they know if they take this away, those people are
less likely to show up. That's what the research shows.
That's what they know, and that's what they've been banking
on for a really long time because they know that
their share of the national voting population is less than
save people who are more left leaning. I'm not going
to say, necessarily Democrats, and so if they can push

(01:10:02):
out low propensity voters, including some of their own right,
they're going to be people who would vote for Republicans
otherwise if they had this means available to them, They're
okay giving up those few, if they can give up
the many that are going to be a challenge to them,
not just in Mississippi, but Mississippi and other states like it.
And so they know exactly what they're doing. They know

(01:10:24):
why wait times are disproportionate in our communities. They know
why redrawing the maps in the on years but also
now in these mid years, these off years are so
essential to them being able to hold on to national
prominence and state level majorities. So it's not surprising to

(01:10:46):
me that they would come for mail in ballots. I'm
not surprised that the Supreme Court is going to hear
this case either, because I think the Supreme Court has
made it very clear to us in so many ways
that they don't see voting as a eight and they
certainly don't see it as something that should be preserved
or expanded for the vast majority of eligible American voters.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
I'm telling you, I need people to I need people
to understand. They just don't oppose tylick the vote being
cast or the vote being counted posts because they say, oh,
three to five days after the election. Know what they
meant by the law is that you only vote on

(01:11:33):
election day. Okay, that that's their particular argument, Okay, but
they don't even want that. They want to get rid
of meilon ballet mail in voting.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
They know our power, and I think they're they're terrified
of it.

Speaker 14 (01:11:50):
But we know that we've already been through poll taxes,
we've been through literacy test intimidation, and yet here we are.
And I think every every year it's a new way
of trying to figure out how to keep us from
the pole. But I think that every law, every policy,
in every court case that is designed to send a
message to restrict voting, it's really a clear.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
Sign that they're fearful. They're fearful about us.

Speaker 14 (01:12:14):
And I think it is an even bigger sign to
say that every ballot we cast, every vote you take,
is a form of resistance.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
And I think it shows why it's so important to
show up.

Speaker 14 (01:12:25):
They're working over time to make sure that you can't
that you can't vote, and I think even if you
look at Mississippi, their black population, I think it's about
thirty eight percent or so forty percent. They continue to
carry the backbone of Mississippi, and so I think they're
just trying to turn it really, really red. But I

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think our resistance is still showing up.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
It is crazy to me on the CONGO that people
don't understand what these folks. They do not want more
Americans voting next year. They do not want it. They
will put up every single roadblock and barrier to do so.
And now they have a Supreme Court who will sit

(01:13:16):
here in rubber stamp as much of their agenda as possible.

Speaker 13 (01:13:21):
Yeah, they don't want us voting, just like they don't
want folks to have healthcare. And we have to understand that,
as you talk about on the show regularly, that this
is a full on assault on voting rights in the
United States, and they are doing it from every single
way they can do it, whether we're talking about the
mail in ballots, whether we're talking about redistricting, whether we're

(01:13:42):
talking about the mass purges that they have on voter rolls.
This is why I often say, particularly with their last election,
the elections.

Speaker 6 (01:13:48):
Were free, but they weren't fair.

Speaker 13 (01:13:50):
I mean, you've had Palace on your show who talked
about all of these different voter suppression efforts cost Commoners
anywhere around three million votes. I mean, there are so
many stories out there about voter suppression efforts. And we know,
I mean Donavo John Lewis was protesting John Roberts nomination
to the Supreme Court way back in the day because
of his anti voting rights mindset. And so the sooner

(01:14:13):
people get on the good foot as it relates to this,
we can make some more progress.

Speaker 6 (01:14:17):
So you see what Gavin Newsom is doing. You know
that that's powerful.

Speaker 13 (01:14:21):
Many of these elections that were won in Virginia and
in New Jersey and other places, we're gonna need, you know,
the governors to be able to make sure that their
elections are running freely and fairly as well. You also
have these voting machine companies that are being bought by
people who are who are Republican or MAGA adjacent, and
so we have to understand that every single level it

(01:14:42):
is being attacked, and that means at every single level
people need to be continue to do what they're doing.
The work that we're doing and working with black voters matter.
It just the list goes on and on. We can
never let up. Every single day they're going to try
a new way to make sure that people can vote.
And that that you played from nineteen eighty one, Roland,
I never saw that, but people need to see that

(01:15:05):
regularly as well, because just like abortion, just like what
a women's right to choose where Roby Wade was passed
way back when, every single year since it was passed,
they fought, they would march down in the Washington Monument
or whatever if there was ten people. They never give up,
and they're never going to give up on this voting right.
And that clip is an example of what they're doing today.

(01:15:26):
And so we have to continue this fight because if not,
they're already working to sabotage of twenty twenty six elections.

Speaker 6 (01:15:32):
Lastly, Roland, this is a guy in Trump and mar
A Lago who was.

Speaker 13 (01:15:35):
Playing video, who plays videos for his staff to watch
that says he won in twenty twenty. There's like music
videos that they got to watch that he even won.
Then they're trying to do everything to not only suppress
votes and win future votes, but even claim the votes
and elections that they lost in the past. It's insane,
but we can't get up the pressure.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
I'm telling you, I just need people to understand what
does that play here. What these people want to do
is they want to shut down all voting. That's what
they want. They don't want us voting. It's pure and simple.
They don't want us voting, and they will do everything possible,

(01:16:17):
everything in their arsenal to stop us from voting. That's right,
going to a break, we come back. Donald Trump continues
the erasure of black people, this time World War two soldiers.
I'll explain next rolling untill three other Blackstudle network.

Speaker 12 (01:16:43):
Violent white supremacy is quote, the most persistent and lethal threat.

Speaker 6 (01:16:47):
In the homeland.

Speaker 15 (01:16:48):
The greatest terrorist threats of the homeland is the homegrown
vious strength, including hate crime committed on behalf of some
kind of white supremacist ideology.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
They are coming after that everything in Black America. MAGA
and Donald Trump are specifically targeting Black America. They're going
after the money attack, Black lives attack, critical racy attack WI.
MAGA wants to defund Black America. It's a perfect example
of their desire.

Speaker 16 (01:17:19):
To completely degrade and de emphasize Black company.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Hey, I'm Mark Moriyle president's CEO of the National Urban League,
and I'm watching Roland Martin unfiltered.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
I told you all these people are trying to defund
Black America. I told you all these people don't give
damn by our history. Now a complaint from the right
wing think tank the Heritage Foundation, She Knows the People
behind Priorate twenty twenty five that has led to the
removal of a memorial honoring ask American soldiers who died
in World War II from a cemetery in the Netherlands.

(01:18:15):
Several Dutch newspapers have reported that two panels highlighting the
contributions of black soldiers were removed from the American War
Cemetery and Margrat Lemberg. This cemetery is the only American
military cemetery in the Netherlands housing the remains of eighty
two hundred and eighty eight soldiers. The panels have been
added in twenty twenty four. One panel commemorated the one

(01:18:37):
million African Americans who volunteered for service during World War II,
while the second panel was dedicated to engineer George H. Prewitt,
who died in nineteen forty five while trying to rescue
a fellow soldier who had fallen into a river. The
here in This Foundation accused the American Battle Monument's Commission
of failing to support Trump's crackdown on diversity the equity

(01:18:58):
inclusion programs. Eleven of the fifteen parties in Lindbergh's Assembly
have signed a letter requesting that the provincial government investigate
the possibility of replacing the plaques. This is what we
keep talking about here. I'm in Congo. These people don't
give a damn about black people or black history. They
are hateful, they are spiteful, they are despicable, and they

(01:19:23):
must be voted out every chance. And if you want
to sit here and you want to call me a
Democratic shield, you want to say, oh man, I'm buck
dancing with Schumer and Jeffries and all you staying with
the Democrats. These hateful maga people want to completely erase

(01:19:46):
black people from American history. They don't want people across
the world to know that those black soldiers who gave
their lives during Jim Crow America. They don't want Americans
to know that black newspapers were writing about segregation and
the armed forces and the federal government threatened to charge

(01:20:10):
black newspapers with treason by saying they were upsetting the
balance of the armed forces because they were writing about segregation.
That's what these people do not want.

Speaker 6 (01:20:25):
You are absolutely right. And not only do they not
want our history taught.

Speaker 13 (01:20:28):
In any way, shape or form, they also magnify and
glorify anything that's relating to white cis gender. I had
a Christian manhood. This is what Pete Hegsaff is all about.
This is why he doesn't want any any press. You know,
they're reporting and following up on what they want to do.
And this is happening all across the country or particularly
with our military.

Speaker 6 (01:20:48):
The fact that black people in this country here, you.

Speaker 13 (01:20:50):
Know, malcam Nance talks about this all the time, you know,
fought in every war for promises that were never fully
kept in any in every way, shape or form, and
the blood and sacrifice that that we have shed in
this country. While at the same time that they are
doing this rolling putting up Albert Pike Confederate statues back
up in Washington, d C. Putting up Confederate statues at

(01:21:14):
the Arlington National Cemetery that's supposed to honor American war heroes.
So at the same time that they are erasing our
contribution to this country by being in these wars, they
are also propping up the Confederacy once again. This country
honors losers in ways like I have never seen in
any other place. But they want that South shall Rise
again mentality, They want that Confederate mindset. It was Trump's

(01:21:35):
people that ran a Confederate flag through the Capitol for
the first time ever in America's history.

Speaker 6 (01:21:40):
So this is a double edged sword right now.

Speaker 13 (01:21:42):
They are actively working and again, this is a story
that I've heard nowhere today until we're talking about it tonight,
because a lot of these media outlets don't care or
they're MAGA adjacent themselves that they want to completely erase
our history and contributions from everything from military to science,
to education to college names and universities, while at the

(01:22:03):
same time prompting up some of the most racist people
in American history from marveny Lee. Look at how they're
renaming the basis, how they remove the names of black
people as well as LGBTU activists like Harvey Milk from
the back, and they're like, this is their plan, and
until we can, we have to continue to stand up
in the same way we fought to make sure that
Jackie Robinson's name was honored correctly, and I wouldn't be

(01:22:24):
surprised if they took.

Speaker 6 (01:22:25):
It off again. They are not going to stop.

Speaker 13 (01:22:27):
They're going to keep doing this, and we need to
keep speaking out members of the military retired people as well.

Speaker 6 (01:22:32):
We have to fight for our history.

Speaker 13 (01:22:34):
This is not the first time we've had to do it,
but we have to make sure that we don't get
lazy about it thinking that it's all good because they
are intentionally with laser like precision.

Speaker 6 (01:22:43):
Who would even be thinking of ylan a Netherlands memorial?

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
It's what iss it. They are going through Neombi, They
are going through everything in the federal government and all
they're looking for black, black, black, Latino, Latino Latina asent. Look,
that's what they're doing. These people are sick the range,
but they want whiteness to prevail.

Speaker 7 (01:23:09):
Oh absolutely. I mean the story they want to tell
is that there was nothing that was ever done in
this country that was worth anything that wasn't done by
a white person, more specifically a white man. And when
you think about the fact that there were a million
black soldiers all over that theater in Europe, that these
people who were being honored died there, and that these

(01:23:29):
panels were there so that we would remember the fact
that these people sacrificed their lives halfway across the world
for people that they didn't know, because these people were facing,
you know, extermination. Quite frankly, right, this is World War Two.
We're talking about Jewish people here, and these panels were

(01:23:49):
removed without any official explanation, with no consideration for anything
other than the fact that we don't want to address
what people were doing that were not white at any
point in our history. I mean, this is whitewashing on
a scale that we have not seen, right since that

(01:24:12):
sort of post Civil War and segregationist period, right when
you had the sort of great redemption, right we got
all of these Confederate monuments going up, as am the
Congo talks about, but all these ways of rewriting history,
which makes it seem like black people were never anything
but supplicants. All we did was bend and scrape and
begue instead of being active participants not just in our freedom,

(01:24:36):
but the freedom of other people, the freedom of people
around the world, not just at home. And so you know,
this is a very pernicious way to go after a
people is to go for their history. This is what CARTERA. G.
Woodson reminded us about in the Miseducation of the Negro's,
to make us believe we've contributed nothing, and to make

(01:24:56):
us feel like we've contributed nothing and therefore we are
not people worthy of respect. So I am not surprised
that they've done this, But as om the Congo rightly
pointed out, they did this in another country with little fanfare,
little attention, with the hopes that it would get by
because who's paying attention to what's happening, you know, half

(01:25:17):
a world away. But they're also doing it at home,
So I mean, you know, it's not like this is
not on message for this administration.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Yeah, they all hate for people, and Tyler's three more
years of this and they're going to do all they
can to gut Black America. They want to defund Black America,
and they absolutely want to destroy our story and our
contributions exactly.

Speaker 14 (01:25:49):
And I think you know, when monuments are removed and
when history books are being whitewashed and our stories are
being silenced, it's not about heritage preservation. It's literally about erasure,
and I think this is an attempt to to remove
us and to remove our struggles, to make it and
to make them invisible. And I think that is all

(01:26:10):
of the reason why UH places like this and black
media is not just optional, it's essential to how we
inform our communities, how we keep folks abreasting what's happening,
because et ceter before, no other mainstream media has covered this,
and I think that is the importance of having places
like this show UH to to really highlight what's happening

(01:26:30):
in our communities. And I think you know that the
Parritage foundations attempt to do this is literally because they
feel uncomfortable about all of our excellence. But I think
we owe every soldier who never came home UH to
keep their stories alive because their memory is the resistance.

(01:26:51):
Us telling their story is the resistance, and our history
is our is our resistance.

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
And I think you know there their stories need to
be told and we have to do all we can
to continue to to to.

Speaker 14 (01:27:04):
Spread this message and to share what's happening, because, like
I said before, when it's halfway across the world, they
don't want us to think about it. But that is
the importance of black owned media and uh us telling
our own stories.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
Absolutely, all right, folks, gotta go to a break we
come back. Charlemagne Breakfast Club addressed the segment that we
did last week regarding the shutdown, and I have some
comments I'll share next right here Rolling Mark Unfiltered on
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Speaker 8 (01:28:07):
Next on the Black Tape with me Bradcoff. The United
States is the most dangerous place for a woman to
give birth among all industrialized nations on the planet.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
Think about that for a second.

Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
That's not all.

Speaker 8 (01:28:21):
Black women are three times more likely to die in
this country during childbirth than white women.

Speaker 7 (01:28:27):
These healthcare systems are inherently racist.

Speaker 17 (01:28:31):
There are a lot of white supremacists, ideas and mythologies
around Black women, black women's bodies, even black people that
we experience.

Speaker 7 (01:28:40):
Pang less right.

Speaker 8 (01:28:41):
Activists, organizers and fearless freedom fighter Monifa I Canwola Bande
lay from Moms Rising, joins us and tells us this
shocking phenomenon, like so much else, is rooted in unadulterated racism.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
And that's just one of her fights.

Speaker 8 (01:28:58):
Monifa Bande lay on the next black table here on
the Black start.

Speaker 6 (01:29:02):
Now, Hey, what's up, everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
It's got to be the funniest dude on the planet
and you're watching.

Speaker 7 (01:29:11):
Ronand Martin unfelted.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
Folks. I'm a graduate of Jack Yay's high school, Magnet
School of Communications in Houston, Texas, and I chose to
go there when I was fourteen years old, and I
wrote columns for our school paper. So I've had people

(01:29:44):
responding to things that I have said that they disagree
with since I was seventeen years old. I go to
Texas A and M I remember one day I came
home and my brother said, man, what you do. That's
what you're talking about. Our answering machine was filled with

(01:30:05):
all these vile messages from Aggie's who were mad because
of a column that I wrote in the school paper
of the battalion chastising and lambasting the Texas Aggie Band
for playing Dixie at halftime. When I interned and worked
at the Bryan College Station Eagle, I wrote opinion pieces

(01:30:30):
didn't make some folks happy. I remember when I worked
at the Houston Defender in nineteen ninety and I wrote
an editorial criticizing the United Negro College Funds campaign, campaign
commercials and William Gray, former Congressman my offer brother. Matter

(01:30:56):
of fact, I think he was in Congress. I can't Yeah,
he was in Congress, but he used to well maybe
he had the unit said, I can't remember anyway, writes
a letter mad with what I wrote. For ten years,
I serve as a nationally syndicated columnist for Creator Syndicate,
and so I've had pieces run all across the world.

(01:31:21):
So don't think for a second that I'm not used
to people taking exception to something that I say or
that I write. Today on the Breakfast Club, Charlemagne took
exception to a segment we did last week where two

(01:31:42):
panelists talk said that that he speaks of provides some misinformation,
and so he made a whole bunch of comments, some
personal attacks. And let me real clear, I don't give
a damn what you say about my weight. I don't
give a damn what you say about my neck. I
don't give a damn what you say about my hairline.
I don't give a damn about none of that. And

(01:32:04):
the reason I don't give a damn about none of
that because none of that shit matter. See, I am
speaking to an addressing and confronting larger issues that played
that have a profound and significant impact on our community.

(01:32:28):
And see, I'm absolutely unbothered if someone says, oh, you're
a Democrat shielder, you you you you doing this and
that and the other for the Democrats, because see, I'm
real clear. I stand up for black people. I stand

(01:32:51):
up for black people on the local level, the state level,
of national level, international level. I fight on behalf of
black people. I've worked in black owned media, not black
targeted media. I Heart Radio owns the breakfast club that's
black targeted, that's not black owned. So I've worked on

(01:33:14):
black owned media since nineteen ninety. That's thirty five years.
I'll be fifty seven on Friday. That's thirty five years.
See when I was at CNN, I was with TV one,
I was with wvo in radio in Chicago, and then

(01:33:36):
later June the time during the morning show. So when
you ride for black people, then you are clear.

Speaker 7 (01:33:48):
In what.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
Your focus, your mission, and your agenda is. And see
for me my mission if I stand on truth in facts.

(01:34:11):
Max Robinson, the first black network news anchor ABC, was
dying of AIDS in nineteen eighty eight. He was addressing
Howard University students and alumni and he said to them,

(01:34:32):
never ever lose your integrity or your credibility, because in
the end, that's all you've got. Chris Messler, God rest
his soul. Clintwood Cripcliff. Chris was a black Republican, Black Conservative,
and Chris and I used to always laugh and talk
because a lot of these Republicans, Well, man, yes, I

(01:34:58):
see you. You gone wrong in the show. And I
don't understand when you going rolling show. He don't yell
at you, he don't interrupt you, Chris said, because I
don't lie like y'all. He said, you fools come on
Rolling Show lying and I ain't stupid, he said. If
I come on Rolling Show and I start lying, he

(01:35:20):
gonna jack me up too. Why Because I operate in facts.
I believe that what our people, that is our people
meaning really all people. What our people need a relevant, factual,

(01:35:41):
credible sources of information that they can trust explicitly in fact.
That that's interesting. I was going through a few text messages,

(01:36:05):
a few text messages between Charlotte Man and I over
the years. September first, twenty twenty four. I always go
hard for the truth and facts, whether white or black.
And this is why I tell black folks to pick
credible black on media. I simply can't sacrifice the truth
for anyone. I've been in journalism since I was fourteen.

(01:36:29):
Nothing is changing forty one years. Also said, I'm not
hard on us. I'm hard on facts. And what I
don't like is when people's few things that are not
factual and then others take it to take it to
believe it is true. That has been the case for
my entire career. I also said, I don't argue online

(01:36:55):
as a journalist.

Speaker 7 (01:36:56):
I provide facts.

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
You see, we all can have opinions. But even when
the context of a debate and one is offering their opinion,
it needs to be a factual opinion. It needs to

(01:37:24):
be one that's rooted in truth, because the general public
does not necessarily distinguish between who's a journalist and who's not.
Who's a journalist and who's a DJ, who's a journalist,

(01:37:47):
who's a shock jockey, who's a journalist, and who's a
radio host, who's a journalist, who's a podcaster, who's a journalist,
and who has a digital show, because see, the public
just sees all media, but there are clear distinctions in
terms of our roles and responsibilities. And I thought about

(01:38:10):
that when I saw because I landed in Bermuda and
all these text messages and whatever, and people would hit
me up saying, oh you see it. No I didn't.
I was literally in the air, and then folks would
hit me up and I got phone calls from people,
and I was quite amused by it all because it's

(01:38:33):
not like it's new to anyone where I stand on.

Speaker 7 (01:38:39):
Facts in fact, as I was.

Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
Thinking about it, and then people were like, man, you
should say this, you should respond this, you should respond this,
you should respond this I said, and I thought about, Snow,
I'm not gonna do any of that. Then there were
people who were I, Oh, he should come on your show,
you should go on his show. I thought about, you know,

(01:39:09):
because all back and forth, and you know, there was stuff, oh,
he begs come on to the Breakfast Club, which is
not true. Sent two Texas this year, one last year,
one twenty twenty three. And when I go to New York,
I actually text about ten people ten shows. So it
could be the Breakfast Club, it could be Ebro, it
could be Swayed, it could be John fusel Gang, it

(01:39:33):
could be people that serious XM. So let's just be
real clear, y'all. I do media all over I just don't.
I don't beg anybody's show to come on. I was
on Ricky Smiley Show and d D Show last week,
So ain't no begging. I literally to people, Hey, I'm
come to town, so there you go, just like people

(01:39:55):
do the same thing to me. So as I was
sitting here watching people, people say what should happen and
should happen and y'all should do this this that I
actually thought about this very issue of when I went
on the Breakfast Club three years ago. Listen, look, I

(01:40:18):
got Republicans who don't want to come on my show
because I don't let them lie. And so the piece
and that's why I get upset when I watch a
lot of these shows and folks lie. So for instance,
when sarey as Bill Maher allowed that woman the other
day to lie on Kamala Harris, and then he didn't
correct her when she talked about, oh, he puts in
all these men, she sent all these men and women

(01:40:38):
to prison for weed and lady and breakfast club. And
then Bill Maher sitting there with his pothead self, don't
say a word. I don't let folks lie. Because when
you when someone lies, if they're listening to this show
and a lie is told and you say nothing for me,
the public goes well, Angela Envy and Sharlotte didn't say nothing,

(01:41:01):
so what they said must have been true.

Speaker 6 (01:41:02):
Noah, well no.

Speaker 3 (01:41:06):
No, what he did was why he didn't didn't correct him,
And I was Likenan just said, wait a minute, what
you just said is a flat out lie. You don't
let lies stand. And so that's why, and I'll tell them,
I'll let you finish what you're not gonna do is
sit here and lie. I just sit there and just
nod and let you continue, because the public needs to

(01:41:27):
have enough faith in us that we have enough information
and the moment you lie, we say, wait, tip, that's
not true. Or if you got to prove that you
got to you're not just gonna throw something out there.
And so that's how that's why this microphone cameras are
important because we have to we have to have so
much trust in it and have and have care with
it that we refuse to let anybody lie in our

(01:41:49):
face because the audience goes, well, that must be true.
So they now run with that lie and now it's
harder to bring it back in as opposed to say stop,
what you just said is simply incorrect. Why did you
give us some facts?

Speaker 18 (01:42:02):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
Because I know people will see this and they'll be like, well,
Kamala has did lock up a.

Speaker 6 (01:42:05):
Bunch of whole bunch of people for we eat in California.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
Well, first of all, if you actually I actually brought
on a brother who went through the whole record, The
number of prosecutions in San Francisco declined from the previous
DA When she became DA two, they created alternative programs
for individuals who had who were arrested for weed. Second
of all, the number of people in California h when

(01:42:29):
to prison those thee went down. So again, when people say, well,
just what you said, you like, the whole lot of
people up? How many? M hmm know how many?

Speaker 6 (01:42:39):
Yeah they can't know anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:42:40):
No, no, no, But you just said, you just said
she's got a lot of people how many?

Speaker 4 (01:42:43):
Oh I didn't say that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
I was quote quoting. Say no, no, no, no, no,
no no. You quoted folks who did not have accurate information.
So even so, even so even no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no no no. He's so even when we say, some
people say, hey, I don't even reference lies, because what

(01:43:05):
I'm now doing is I'm now weaponizing the lie. So
even even the correct that you don't represent, huh, even
the correct that you don't represent, No, no, no, it's
not a question correct. What I'm not gonna do is
some people say she locked of a lot of people.
First of all, let's break that statement down.

Speaker 6 (01:43:19):
What does it even mean?

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
What's a lot? Okay, if she locked up five thousand,
well how many were locked up before her? Was it
ten thousand? So ten thousand before her and then she
locked to a five thousand, that's a decrease, correct, So
again that has to be stated. Second of all, does
the Attorney general lock people up or the local das see?

(01:43:43):
So again, I don't just go some people. I hate
that phrase because even stating that, it has to be
rooted in fact. And that's why I don't seemp they
do that any time. I forced people to have to
defend a statement and say no, no, no, you need
to provide evidence to back that up. And so what

(01:44:05):
if somebody says, well, five thousand was too many, okay,
but if it was ten thousand and she came in
and changed the policy and then it was cut in half?
Do you not give credit to cutting in and half?
Where I come from, you actually do. It's called context
and the problem we have, especially with too many of
them gossip blogs and these people who are aggregators, who

(01:44:26):
all they do is repeat else somebody else, right. They
don't have any contexts. They provide no nuance, they provide
no factual information. They don't ask the second question too often,
as Katain Hughes said, they ain't deep with the muscle
on the hot dog. I hope y'all understood what I
was laying out there. It's not enough to say, well,

(01:44:51):
I'm just asking questions. But if your question is rooted
in raw information, then you've actually weaponized the wrong information.
And now go out to the publics let me, let
me I want people to understand. I really need tail

(01:45:14):
to understand this. When you have a microphone, and it
could be this microphone I'm wearing, it could be it
could be anything. It could be written word, it could
be your social media, it could be anything. There are
people who are going to entrust in you, even if

(01:45:39):
they never even talked to you, that he gonna give
me the right information. So if you because they are thinking,
well wait minute, you bigger, you more knowledgeable, you know
more things that I do. So therefore I'm trusting that
what you are saying to me is correct. So what

(01:46:02):
then happens is you say something or guest says something
that's not correct, and then it's not corrected. So therefore
the person listening goes that must be right. So they
then take what you just said or heard and go

(01:46:24):
repeat to somebody else and they say, well, I heard
it on the breakfast club. I heard on rollingmard unfiltered.
I heard on Native Lamppod, I heard on a contryband camp.
I heard y'all see how it happens. So they are
signing credibility to you based upon what they heard. Which

(01:46:47):
is why those of us sitting behind the mic or
the keyboard must be mindful of what comes into our minds,
process comes out of our mouth and then spoken into
the microphone, because once it hits that microphone, you can

(01:47:09):
no longer can control it. You can't control it. So
for me, when I hit it, I want you to
have clarity. I don't want to come back to say

(01:47:32):
I should explain it better. And again, I just want
people to understand, see, this is not man, you attacking
you attacking them. No, that's not what it is. It
is an absolute pursuit of truth, which is how I

(01:47:55):
define myself as a journalist. Because I have too much
respect for this microphone and I have too much respect
for the audience for the audience to be given something
that's half correct. And again, I wasn't gonna do this,

(01:48:21):
but I just want to. I'm just gonna give y'all
an example today again in that twenty minute discussion that
charlot Mane had I just want and again, this is
not tearing down. I'm just stating what happens when a
basic statement is made. And maybe you're not thinking about
what you're saying. That's actually wrong. Charlemagne was quoting Bishop

(01:48:46):
William Barber talking about the Big Ugly Bill, and he said,
when the bill passed, quote, Democrats failed to expand the
task credits. I want you to hear I just said.
Charlomagne said, Democrats failed to expand it task credits. Here's
the problem. They didn't have the power. Republicans control the House,

(01:49:10):
They control whether a bill comes to the floor. They
had the votes, Republicans control the Senate. Now, some of
y'all watching right now say I'm gonna explain the apology.
Some of y'all watching right now are going, well, I
don't understand. They needed eight Democrats Brady the filibuster. Yes,
because the Big Ugly Bill was passed through a process

(01:49:31):
called reconciliation. Uh oh. The reconciliation process does not require
sixty votes. The reconciliation process only requires a simple majority.
Do y'all know how to afford? A carry Act got

(01:49:52):
passed through reconciliation yeah. See, these are the arcane things
in politics that I don't I don't expect the average
person to know. My job is to explain to the
people these arcane things and make it to make it

(01:50:15):
simple for them. So there are some bills that passed
the Senate by unanimous consent, meaning I moved it past
they unanimous consent. Okay, empty chamber, it's it's it's a
post office whatever. So remember that, Charlie Kirk, you know
day that's how that thing was passed. People are like

(01:50:39):
Democrats had vote on it, weren't even in the chamber.
Should have been one objecting. Ram Paul did that when
it came to the Junior See, y'all, I remember June teen,
Senator ram Paul. The reason June teen didn't reason juneteenth
didn't become federal law when Trump was at the first
time because Senator ram Paul objected to being passed by
unanimous consent. So you can have one or two senators

(01:51:03):
in the entire chamber and they could pass a bill
by unanimous consent and don't require all hundreds showing up.
That's one way you pass the bill. Another way you
pass the build the reconciliation process, which has some rules
there which you can and cannot do, and to send
the valmuntary has the rule on it. That's literally what
the livial how was passed by simple majority the continuing

(01:51:31):
resolution that required sixty votes. Those are details, Those are nuances,
but I still believe they have to be explained. So
it's incorrect for ch'all Maine to say, quote, Democrats fail
to expand the task credits. How could they fail to
expand it? But they didn't have a power Republicans did,

(01:51:52):
so should the statement have actually said the GOP cut
the subsidies, the GOP cut the task credits. See see
y'all missed that. Y'all missed that. I want to walk
y'all through very basic understand language. If the phrase is
Democrats fail to expand the task credits, that means that

(01:52:14):
you are assigning blame for the tax credits expiring on
the Democrats because they fail to expand the task credits.
But the language is the GOP cut the tax credits.
That's the appropriate language. Why because they control the House,

(01:52:36):
control the state, control the White House.

Speaker 24 (01:52:39):
So just that one line, that one line right there,
completely changes the context of the conversation, which is why
words matter, why language matters, and.

Speaker 3 (01:52:56):
Why we can't be reckless or lazy with how we
construct words, because you can change the context of a
discussion by changing the words. And so what my desire,

(01:53:19):
my desire is very simple. My desire is for everybody
in Black America. My desire is those of us on radio,
on television, on digital to make it our mission to

(01:53:39):
never be ambiguous with our people. When I'm on time
joining the morning show, I forgot where it could have been.
It could have been, I don't know where it was,

(01:54:03):
and his mother came up to me. I need y'all
to hear this. This mother came up to me and
she said, mister Martin's good to meet you. My baby
will not let me drop her off at school until
she finishes your segment. I said, really, the young girl

(01:54:24):
sending right there? I said really, She says yes. Her
mama said, if we get to school, are you not done?
She made me door around the block to finish your segment.
I said, oh my god, I appreciate that. So on Monday,

(01:54:45):
I go on, I said, Tom Man, I met this
mother and her twelve year old daughter. I told the story.
Tom said he loved it. I got an email. The
email said, mister Martin, thanks for the shout out, but

(01:55:08):
I'm eleven. I love that I said the young girl
was twelve, but she was actually eleven. She corrected me
on age. That's called a fact. Now, it's not necessarily

(01:55:33):
consequential in terms of the grand scheme of things, but
it's awesome. But it's still a fact.

Speaker 25 (01:55:42):
But here's why that story is so important because it
ain't about the age. It's about the fact that this
young girl, it was eleven years old.

Speaker 3 (01:55:54):
It's in the car with her mama, and this eleven
year old girl was so intently focused on the segment
that I had and the people that I was interviewing,
that this young girl would not get out of the
car until I was done. Y'all, that eleven year old

(01:56:18):
girl right now is in her early twenties. That eleven
year old girl who was listening to the time during
the morning show segment, that little young girl was learning
was listening, and so I could not be careless with

(01:56:40):
what I was saying. I could not fully explain to
provide the context of what I was saying because I
wasn't just talking to her mama. I wasn't just talking
to her dad. I was talking to her and more
like her. So I will never apologize for being fixated

(01:57:02):
on truth, because what we must understand is that unbeknownst
to us, there is a young girl, there's a young boy.
There's somebody who's seven, eight, nine, twelve, fifteen, eighteen, twenty five,

(01:57:25):
thirty two, forty forty seven, fifty four, sixty five, seventy
eighty ninety who's watching and listening, and what we have
to say to them, and how we say it matters.

(01:57:51):
It's not for the cheap laugh, it's not the mock,
but when you understand how precious information is. Was Kathy Hughes,
who calling the frame information is power, disinformation misinformation lack

(01:58:14):
of full information also has negative consequences. So the challenge
for all of us should not be getting myself so upset.
Sound was missing. I was misinformant. Hold On, let me

(01:58:35):
let me hear what they have to say. Hold on,
let me go back and examine what I said. Oh,
you know what, I wasn't fully clear. I didn't fully explain.
Because what we have to recognize is there's no assumption

(01:58:57):
at a brother or sister listening will come back and
listen to the clarification. There's no assumption that they will
come back and hear the correction of the error. Our

(01:59:19):
responsibility is to get it right. And I'm gonna close
with this. A month before she died, they fed it
after Maya Angelou the National Portrait Gallery. We covered it
at the Smithsonian Museum of African Art. They threw a

(01:59:42):
birthday party. Jenea be called through a birthday party. We
were all there and Valerie Simpson sang, and bachelor Andrew
Young spoke and I went to go interview doctor Angelou
and I said something to her. I said, you know,
my brother's a teacher. Two of my sisters teachers, or
sister was a teacher's aide. I'm the only one in

(02:00:03):
my family who's never taught. And she says, no, you teach.
She said, I'll watch you.

Speaker 6 (02:00:16):
You teach when you're on.

Speaker 3 (02:00:19):
Television, and it blew me away. I'll find that clip.
We're gonna play it. But ever since then, I've been
even more vigilant and what I had to say and
how I said it and explain to our people. I

(02:00:43):
love what Joe Madison said, put it with a ghost,
can get it Mark Thompson Show is called Make It Plain.
Our job is to make this thing so plain and
so cleer, so crystal clear, that our people understand what's
at stake. And there's no room. Whether we are high

(02:01:09):
in big, a lower small, that it is not our
primary mission. An objective is to be truthful, clear, concise,
and unapologetic about facts. And that is something that I

(02:01:35):
will never ever apologize for because our people should trust
the voices that are coming into their cars, their living rooms,
their homes, their offices every day and every night. And

(02:01:56):
that will always be the mission of Rolling but Unfiltered
and Black stud Network and me personally, and y'all already
know what my motto is as a journalist in my
entire career. If you do good, I'm gonna talk about you.
If you do bad, I'm gonna talk about you. At
the end of the day, I'm gonna talk about you.

(02:02:19):
It ain't about friends, It's about facts, because our people
deserve credible, high quality, factual mediums. And that's all I
got to say on this real quick, Pandel, you're there

(02:02:45):
your perspective again on why and matter of fact me,
I'm not gonna start with you from a because your professor,
you teach what comes out of your mouth, your students
listen to, and you have to be very mindful of
the information that you are providing to them, because if

(02:03:06):
you misquote something that's factual, they can come back and say,
hold up, that ain't right. And I've been there. I
got into several arguments with professors over some stuff that
wasn't factually correct.

Speaker 7 (02:03:19):
And you know what you do as a professor, You
say I got it wrong, and I apologize right, I
will be better. Because we're not superhuman. We get things
wrong sometimes. But I think that's the point. When you're wrong,
you have to admit you're wrong. I say this to
my students all the time. There is no failure in
being wrong. In fact, as a social scientist, we start
from the premise that we could always be wrong. What

(02:03:40):
we are working with is what the best information we
have right now, And you can't say any more than
the data will tell you or the historical record will
tell you. You can't read anymore into it than that.
And your only obligation is to the truth, not your
own ideas, not your ego, not what other people might think.

(02:04:01):
You have to have some fidelity to the truth. So
I tell people that my students that all the time.
If nothing else, when you get it wrong, you have
to say I got it wrong. Sometimes you have the
best hunch of your life and a non finding is
what you get. But that's still a finding because it's
inching us closer to the truth. And so I think

(02:04:21):
as a professional person, you know, professors are not very
different from journalists, except we have smaller platforms. But to
the point you made earlier, our job is to ferret
out the truth and let the chips fall where they may.
And many times that means we thought it was going
to go left and it went right. And that is

(02:04:43):
also okay, because what we want to know is how
close are we getting to some new breakthrough, to some
new theory, to some new idea, to something novel that
we didn't know before, to providing a little more context,
as you said, chipping away at something.

Speaker 3 (02:05:00):
That's what we're doing.

Speaker 7 (02:05:01):
We're trying to eat the elephant little by little each
and every time we do something, we publish something, we
put opinion out there. So our first and only obligation
is to the truth, no more.

Speaker 6 (02:05:13):
No less.

Speaker 3 (02:05:16):
On a congo, there's a reason why in our Blackstar
Network studios, y'all give me a shot.

Speaker 9 (02:05:21):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:05:21):
There's a portrait of the great crusading journalist Ida b
Wells Barnett, and you see the quote there that is
a famous quote, the way to right wrongs is to
turn the light of truth upon them.

Speaker 13 (02:05:39):
And Charlotte Mayne has you know, demonstrated that time and
time again. There's not a real interest in the truth.
There's an interest in building the audience and building the following.
I mean he's sitting there proudly talking in the in
the clip about oh.

Speaker 6 (02:05:51):
I don't know who that Neon de Carter is.

Speaker 13 (02:05:54):
I don't know who that doctor Carr is. I don't
know who that Rebecca Carrothers is. Get to know them,
understand the scholarship, understand the leadership. And when you hear
what he's saying, it just showed a level of immaturity
that exists within him to just resort to name call it,
almost turning into like a hip hop type of beef
when the debate was about real knowledge and real information

(02:06:14):
and real fact.

Speaker 3 (02:06:15):
I just and again, my whole deal is to your point,
if you don't know something, that's fine. I just want
and again, if you nail it, you got it. If
you don't and you don't have it, come back and say,
you know what, I win got some more information. I
don't care what that is. I don't care what that is.

(02:06:37):
People don't realize I read stuff I called you. I'm
calling people understanding. If I don't understand it, I'll call
multiple people. But the point is, and I might not
bring up something if I don't have it fully down,
So I may hold it a day or two until

(02:06:58):
I'm comfortable with my information. That that's my whole point,
because we have to respect the audience. That's the most
important thing. Absolutely person who he.

Speaker 7 (02:07:09):
Is yet.

Speaker 13 (02:07:11):
No, absolutely, And he was even corrected by Mediassan who
pointed at him and said, you are because of the
way you spread your information. But he didn't have any
type of smoke or words for him. And so we
have to be very mindful as I talk about this
breakfast club audience. I always ask myself how many voters
are they bringing to the table, What are they doing
to move the needle as relates to it to black empowerment,
And maybe that's just not the interest at the end

(02:07:33):
of the day.

Speaker 6 (02:07:34):
And as a sister said at the NFA segment. That's
a takedown. That's a takedown. That was childish, and we
need grown ups right now. We need grown ups in
this movement.

Speaker 13 (02:07:42):
We need grown ups in this space, and we need
grown ups to really check the door. It was the
same thing I see with Steven A. Smith and some
of his takedowns. And what you did tonight, Roland was
you talked about a commitment to the truth and some
people just have a commitment to their pocketbooks and some
people just have a commitment to going their social media influence.

Speaker 6 (02:08:00):
And if that's where.

Speaker 13 (02:08:01):
You're gonna be fine, but make sure when you comment
to other spaces you actually come to the facts and
you're willing.

Speaker 6 (02:08:07):
To be corrected so that people can know that you
have some integrity.

Speaker 3 (02:08:12):
And hell, if I get it wrong, it's about correct
you correct Todder. You know what I was in Birmingham.
The young sister came up to me and she presented
me with a blanket and she had our show logos
on and had my picture on it, and she said,
my mama homeschooled me, and she said, for the last
three years you were my history teacher. My mama made
me watch your show every night. See that's what I'm

(02:08:34):
talking about. I don't know who that sister is. I
didn't even I was blown away by that. But her
mama had her watching my show. And if she learned politics,
if she learned about news from watching my show, I
damn sure better get it right.

Speaker 14 (02:08:57):
Absolutely, And I think we have to use our influence
for possibly. I always say healthy debate within black media
is definitely necessary, but it has to be rooted in truth,
accountability and as just as we know here love for
black people. And I think you know, both of you
represent two powerful generations of black thought leadership. And we

(02:09:18):
need more spaces where more fearless reporting and more honest
and uh, you know, holding your feet to the fire
conversations is having is being had because calling out different
disinformation isn't just fact checking, it's protecting the lives. As
you said earlier today on the on the show, Uh,
this politics things, this is life or death.

Speaker 4 (02:09:37):
And we have to be mindful of the information that
we give out.

Speaker 14 (02:09:40):
Every word we speak, every post we share, every conversation
that we carry, it carries weight because someone is.

Speaker 4 (02:09:46):
Always listening to us.

Speaker 14 (02:09:47):
And I know a lot of people always say, you know,
you know, I don't got the biggest voice for the
biggest platform. But even if it's your family, your your
nieces and nephews, and your your your coworkers, the folks
who walk past on the street, you are influencing somebody.
So in the world where misinformation is all over the place,
we have a duty to be good stores of the truth.

Speaker 3 (02:10:08):
Yeah, thats one of people understand. Misinformation does not mean
that disinformation is when you're being deliberate. Misinformation means you're misinformed.
You may have half of the story, you may repeat it,
but the other half out. So I think people get
all sensitive about the idea of misinformation. That's why my

(02:10:28):
whole point is very simple. No one will ever throw
out misinformation or disinformation when you speak complete truth and
not Kelly and Kong with alternative facts. Facts are not alternative.
It's either fact ors not It's either truthful or it's not.

(02:10:49):
And that has to be the simple and basic standard.
Tyler Niambi, I'm a coming God so appreciate y'all being
Toda's show. Thank you so very much, folks. As I said,
I am here in Bermuda, the Bermuda tumors and authority,
They of course have this PJ tournament and they invited
me out here. I know I love to play golf,
but I'm gonna be doing interviews with people here talk

(02:11:10):
about Look, this is a black country. We're gonna be
having a great conversation now to talk about golf, but
some other things as well. So I can't wait to
interface with the people, be sharing some of those stories.
Right here, I'm rolling unfilters with the Black Star Network. Folks.
I'm going to see you guys tomorrow. But before we
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