June 16, 2025 • 8 mins
Florida’s Attorney General demanded more ICE raids. One Black sheriff stood up — and refused.
🔥 Broward County Sheriff Gregory Tony refused to send deputies to help ICE
🔥 “We’re not knocking on doors. We’re not snatching kids from daycare.”
🔥 He shut down demands for dragnet-style enforcement
🔥 He backed his community — not the crackdown
This is what real leadership looks like. A sheriff who serves and protects — not one who obeys unjust orders.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A Black Florida share and the state Attorney General are
at odds on the issue of arresting immigrants. Attorney General
James Oldheimer sent a lead to Broward County share of
Gregory Tony following the shriff's comments about not prioritizing the
arrest of immigrants during a commission meeting last week.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Check this out.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Some of the things that other sheriffs in this state
has participated in, and increasing availability of manpower to execute
some of these responsibilities that fall under immigrations. We are
not There has been a submittal of requests. The governor
wanted to see all shriffs participate in this one program
two eighty seven G, which was related to the inmate
(00:45):
processing components, and we've always been in compliance with that.
Then there was a pivot point to have deputies participate
and two eighty seven G task Force, whereas now it's
the law enforcement apparatus that is out in the field
and increasing the operational tempo four customs, meaning twenty deputies
are assigned let's say in Sarasota to this particular task force,
(01:08):
and those deputies are now basically operating under the will
or so the partnership of immigration. I've dedicated the two
people that's always been there. I've not increased that. We
have other priorities in this community that I'm focused on,
and immigration is not one of them. Not to dismiss
the importance of that, but we have had case after
case just a few months ago to speak about why
(01:30):
it's important for us as law enforcement practitioners to focus
on the criminal components, not administrative components when it comes
to immigration. I don't care what country you're from. If
you commit a crime in this country or commit a
crime in this county, I'm coming for you. But what
I refuse to do is take this notion that we
(01:51):
need to be knocking on doors or resting children, or
going into daycare centers or restaurants and taking and snatching
people off these streets who have been paying taxes and
contributing to this society in some positive form, regardless if
they're a US citizen or not. It's not within our purview,
it's not within our responsibility, and I won't participate in it.
(02:12):
This is something that has alarmed this community repeatedly, and
I've been crystal clear and I have not waivering my
stance in the last six years and I won't.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Youth myles. Letter orders Tony to comply with the efforts
of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Larry your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, Roland, you know it's a lot going on down
here in the state of Florida, and so you know,
a lot of the sheriffs down here gleefully signed doing
to get involved in a lot of these ice raates.
And if you assue the sheriff said, what he had
to say is completely reasonable. Let's we also have to
highlight the heat as sheriff, he also serves a very
diverse immigrant population, so those and we're talking about individuals
(02:55):
who voted for him. So this back and forth between
you know, the ag ang and the sheriff is really
based on the fact that he has not as been
as gung ho as some of the other shriffs down
here in the state. But once again, his point is practical.
He's saying, if you if you, if you're a criminal,
then we'll come after you. But what he's also saying
(03:16):
is they're not going to be kicking doors into homes
of the individuals who haven't committed crime. Once again, he
talked to call him to pay taxes and Roland, this
also relates to He points to that education. We're increasingly
seeing individ ice agents go to public schools, elementary schools
in some cases seeking to talk to young people. So
his point is saying his point is is that we're
(03:37):
not going to law you know, look for lawbody individuals,
and we're certainly not going to be kicking in the
door to elementary, middle of high schools to snatch kids
out of school. And then, like I said, I used
to term black box in terms of the last segment,
but he's just saying what he's saying is practical if
you break the law coming after you. Otherwise, if you
live in a community, you're being productive. I'm not going
(03:58):
to bother you. But down here that is not enough.
Once again, I made the point about power. They want
a far more you know, stronger commitment from sheriffs and
it's throughout the state to make sure that if you're
a child or a woman who has you know, stake
care of small children or father that they don't care
(04:19):
if they if they grab you, that's it. They'll send
you all, you know, send you to at the Louisiana
or some far country. But the bottom line is what
the sheriff said is not it's not raggal, but in
the state of Florida, it is.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
What we're seeing, Tydick. Again, we know in this state,
we saw when Ronda Santis removed three state uh you know,
three DA's if you will, because they said of what
they were not going to prosecute. This is what these
folks do. And I wouldn't be shocked if they try
to move on this duly elected black black sheriff.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Absolutely, And I think even as you just pointed out,
sheriffs are elected by the people, they're not appointed by
the government. And when communities, especially communities of color, organize
and demand that their local law enforcement, you know, protect
them rather than tear them apart, as an elected official,
I think the sheriff has a duty to listen. I
(05:17):
don't think it's about politics, but it's really about prioritizing
their community safety. And as mentioned before, they're not doing
anything that causes harm to the community, then they should
be left along. And I think even understanding the track
record of ICE in itself, having the long track record
of abuse, of racial profiling, of violating people's civil rights,
(05:38):
especially in a community of you know, black and brown
folks who are distress is already a major issue, and
I think the sheriff saying no to ice is honestly
saying yes to the due process and dignity of public safety.
And I think, you know, I think it's commendable, and
I wish more local officials would he to the concerns
(06:01):
and the voices of the folks in their community.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But here's a deal, Mustafa. They don't give a damn
about people who are duly elected, and they don't care
if they have their own opinions. They want to tell
them what to do. That's what they That's what Ronda
Santis does, That's what his attorney general is doing. So
they don't care that this sheriff has made his own
decision as to how he is going to run his office,
which is what he was elected to do.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Exactly, and he's doing the right thing. We all know
that many law enforcement have limited incomes, so that means
that you have to prioritize. So then you should take
a look and ask the question, where is the crime
happening so that we can deploy They needed individuals to
be able to address that. So there are numerous studies
that are out there that show that folks who are
(06:50):
undocumented are do significantly less crime than those who are
documented or those who are citizens here in this country. So,
based upon that premise, which is rooted in fact, than
Ron DeSantis to be great, to be very very thankful
that you have a sheriff who's willing to stand up
(07:13):
and say, you know, wherever crime is, I'm going to
deal with it, but I'm not going to take resources
away from the areas that I'm trying to serve and protect.
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A Black Florida share and the state Attorney General are
at odds on the issue of arresting immigrants. Attorney General
James Oldheimer sent a lead to Broward County share of
Gregory Tony following the shriff's comments about not prioritizing the
arrest of immigrants during a commission meeting last week.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Check this out.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Some of the things that other sheriffs in this state
has participated in, and increasing availability of manpower to execute
some of these responsibilities that fall under immigrations. We are
not There has been a submittal of requests. The governor
wanted to see all shriffs participate in this one program
two eighty seven G, which was related to the inmate
(00:45):
processing components, and we've always been in compliance with that.
Then there was a pivot point to have deputies participate
and two eighty seven G task Force, whereas now it's
the law enforcement apparatus that is out in the field
and increasing the operational tempo four customs, meaning twenty deputies
are assigned let's say in Sarasota to this particular task force,
(01:08):
and those deputies are now basically operating under the will
or so the partnership of immigration. I've dedicated the two
people that's always been there. I've not increased that. We
have other priorities in this community that I'm focused on,
and immigration is not one of them. Not to dismiss
the importance of that, but we have had case after
case just a few months ago to speak about why
(01:30):
it's important for us as law enforcement practitioners to focus
on the criminal components, not administrative components when it comes
to immigration. I don't care what country you're from. If
you commit a crime in this country or commit a
crime in this county, I'm coming for you. But what
I refuse to do is take this notion that we
(01:51):
need to be knocking on doors or resting children, or
going into daycare centers or restaurants and taking and snatching
people off these streets who have been paying taxes and
contributing to this society in some positive form, regardless if
they're a US citizen or not. It's not within our purview,
it's not within our responsibility, and I won't participate in it.
(02:12):
This is something that has alarmed this community repeatedly, and
I've been crystal clear and I have not waivering my
stance in the last six years and I won't.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Youth myles. Letter orders Tony to comply with the efforts
of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Larry your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, Roland, you know it's a lot going on down
here in the state of Florida, and so you know,
a lot of the sheriffs down here gleefully signed doing
to get involved in a lot of these ice raates.
And if you assue the sheriff said, what he had
to say is completely reasonable. Let's we also have to
highlight the heat as sheriff, he also serves a very
diverse immigrant population, so those and we're talking about individuals
(02:55):
who voted for him. So this back and forth between
you know, the ag ang and the sheriff is really
based on the fact that he has not as been
as gung ho as some of the other shriffs down
here in the state. But once again, his point is practical.
He's saying, if you if you, if you're a criminal,
then we'll come after you. But what he's also saying
(03:16):
is they're not going to be kicking doors into homes
of the individuals who haven't committed crime. Once again, he
talked to call him to pay taxes and Roland, this
also relates to He points to that education. We're increasingly
seeing individ ice agents go to public schools, elementary schools
in some cases seeking to talk to young people. So
his point is saying his point is is that we're
(03:37):
not going to law you know, look for lawbody individuals,
and we're certainly not going to be kicking in the
door to elementary, middle of high schools to snatch kids
out of school. And then, like I said, I used
to term black box in terms of the last segment,
but he's just saying what he's saying is practical if
you break the law coming after you. Otherwise, if you
live in a community, you're being productive. I'm not going
(03:58):
to bother you. But down here that is not enough.
Once again, I made the point about power. They want
a far more you know, stronger commitment from sheriffs and
it's throughout the state to make sure that if you're
a child or a woman who has you know, stake
care of small children or father that they don't care
(04:19):
if they if they grab you, that's it. They'll send
you all, you know, send you to at the Louisiana
or some far country. But the bottom line is what
the sheriff said is not it's not raggal, but in
the state of Florida, it is.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
What we're seeing, Tydick. Again, we know in this state,
we saw when Ronda Santis removed three state uh you know,
three DA's if you will, because they said of what
they were not going to prosecute. This is what these
folks do. And I wouldn't be shocked if they try
to move on this duly elected black black sheriff.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Absolutely, And I think even as you just pointed out,
sheriffs are elected by the people, they're not appointed by
the government. And when communities, especially communities of color, organize
and demand that their local law enforcement, you know, protect
them rather than tear them apart, as an elected official,
I think the sheriff has a duty to listen. I
(05:17):
don't think it's about politics, but it's really about prioritizing
their community safety. And as mentioned before, they're not doing
anything that causes harm to the community, then they should
be left along. And I think even understanding the track
record of ICE in itself, having the long track record
of abuse, of racial profiling, of violating people's civil rights,
(05:38):
especially in a community of you know, black and brown
folks who are distress is already a major issue, and
I think the sheriff saying no to ice is honestly
saying yes to the due process and dignity of public safety.
And I think, you know, I think it's commendable, and
I wish more local officials would he to the concerns
(06:01):
and the voices of the folks in their community.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But here's a deal, Mustafa. They don't give a damn
about people who are duly elected, and they don't care
if they have their own opinions. They want to tell
them what to do. That's what they That's what Ronda
Santis does, That's what his attorney general is doing. So
they don't care that this sheriff has made his own
decision as to how he is going to run his office,
which is what he was elected to do.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Exactly, and he's doing the right thing. We all know
that many law enforcement have limited incomes, so that means
that you have to prioritize. So then you should take
a look and ask the question, where is the crime
happening so that we can deploy They needed individuals to
be able to address that. So there are numerous studies
that are out there that show that folks who are
(06:50):
undocumented are do significantly less crime than those who are
documented or those who are citizens here in this country. So,
based upon that premise, which is rooted in fact, than
Ron DeSantis to be great, to be very very thankful
that you have a sheriff who's willing to stand up
(07:13):
and say, you know, wherever crime is, I'm going to
deal with it, but I'm not going to take resources
away from the areas that I'm trying to serve and protect.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Hello, I'm Isaacs, the third founder and CEO of fan Base.
Listen to what I'm about to tell you. The window
to invest in fan Base is closing. We've raised over
ten point six million of our seventeen million dollars goal.
That means there's room for less than six thousand, three
hundred and seventy people to invest in fan Base for
the average amount. The minimum to invest in fan Base
(07:44):
right now is three hundred and ninety nine dollars. That
makes you an owner in fan Base today. Go to
start engine, dot com slash fan base to invest. Why
Because current social apps have taken advantage of users for
far too long with content suppression, shadow banning, homephul races,
content and no real tools for monetization and equity. Fan
base has over one point four million users in counting,
(08:06):
allowing anyone to reach all their following and monetize their
content from day one. Social media is the new TV,
and whoever owns an app to distribute that content have
the opportunity to own potential billion dollar companies. While big
platforms with certain futures are failing to serve their users,
fan base is stepping up to fill the gap. Don't
wait until it's too late. Invest now. Invest for yourself
(08:29):
and your future. Go to start engine, dot com, slash
fan base and own the next generation of social media.
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