Black Voters Matter Relaunches ‘We Fight Back’; SCOTUS OKs $780M DEI Cuts; Rep. Corey Paris Threats

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Today's Friday, August twenty second, twenty twenty five, coming up
from Roland Martin. Unfolds are streaming live on the Black
Star Network. Black Voters Matter. They're expanding their mission beyond
protecting black voting rights. The organization is focusing on uplifting
black communities with the relaunch of its We Fight Back campaign.
We'll talk to the co founders, Latasha Brown and Cliff
Albright and a narrow five to four decision, the Supreme

(00:33):
courticized with Donald Trump over cutting nearly eight hundred million
dollars in federal research grants connected to diversity, equity and
inclusion initiatives. Congress, we see how they are screwing up
because that's their right. Black Connects. That representative of Corey
Paris says he's received hate field threats after being falsely
accused of doxing sensitive information about ICE agents. He'll join

(00:57):
us to tell his side of the story. He is
part education and says George Bason, University of valitated civil
rights laws by factoring in race and other personal characteristics
during hiring and promotion decisions. They also have been trying
to fire or get the get the university president of
the brother to resign. Donald Trump threatens to send the
Federal Guard National Guard to Chicago and New York, although

(01:18):
he has no legal authority to actually do so. And
John Bolton, who served Trump as a top national security official,
had his home raided horn cars and val demings. Let's
just say she said, chickens are coming home to roost.
It's a whole lot I want to talk about, and

(01:41):
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Speaker 2 (01:49):
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Speaker 2 (02:23):
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Speaker 1 (02:40):
In the five or four decision, the Supreme Court has
allowed Donald Trump and is his cohorts to cut more
than nearly eight hundred million dollars in federal research grants
associated with diversity, the equity, and inclusion. The ruling overturns
a lower course decision and allows the Natural Institutes of
Health to withdraw existing funding. Health and education leaders one
this action will inflict long lasting damage on the critical

(03:02):
scientific and medical research. Justice Kataji Brown Jackson issued a
strong discent, while the majority claimed that distributing the grants
would cause irreparable harm to the government. I don't know
how that's going to be the case now. For now,
the court has blocked Trump's new anti DEI rules for
future funding, but hundreds of millions of dollars for current
projects are still at risk. Now here's the problem here.

(03:24):
This was money that Congress allocated. And this is how
Republicans aren't doing their job. They are ceding their legal
authority to the executive branch. And trust me, when the
Democrat is sitting in the Oval office, you know they're
going to be yelling and screaming about how, oh my god,
this is so unfair. Folks. We're talking about cuts that

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deal with research, that deal with the inequities between black
and white people. But when you have white nationalists and
races now running the government, this is no show. Michael
emo Hotep hosts the African History Network show I Detroit.
Matt Maning said, ritsch attorneyut of Corpus Christy, do't that,
Julia Melbou, economist President Emrit have Bennett, College, author of

(04:09):
surviving and thriving three to sixty five facts in Black
economic history. Y'all showed a book. Y'all had a book. Now,
y'all supposed to Okay, y'all when we do, I keep
telling y'all we have authors. Thank you. See, y'all got
to show the book. Come on, now, y'all got to
keep up. Now, let's go all right, let's get right
down to it. I'll start with you, Julian. This is

(04:30):
real simple. These thugs, these races. We see what we see,
how they are, how they operate. But again, the real
problem here Congress allocates the money, and so Trump is
acting like, oh, I have the right to do whatever
I want, and these idiot Republicans are letting him. And
so this is why I seemed to say to the
next Democrat in the White House, hopefully after twenty twenty eight,

(04:53):
return the favor. All right. So we have issues with
Julian's audio. Y'all gotta let me know this stuff, y'all. Okay,
let's go to Matt. Matt, I want to take the question.
Please fix Julian's audio. Okay, guys, I can't hear Matt.

(05:19):
What are we doing?

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Actually?

Speaker 6 (05:27):
I think that was my fault. Roland, Matt go ahead,
that was my mistake, not your staff. I apologized, I
was on mute, But nonetheless, what I was saying.

Speaker 7 (05:34):
Is I think you're right. I think what's going to
happen is.

Speaker 6 (05:36):
When a Democrat is in the White House and he
or she tries to exercise the same.

Speaker 7 (05:40):
Authority, they're gonna say, you don't have the power.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
To do that.

Speaker 7 (05:43):
You're usurping the power of Congress.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
And what I still do not understand is why people
in Congress on mass are continuing to capitulate to this
president and seeding their own power. If Congress has the
power of the purse, then of course the president has
to be able to use you know that some of
those allotted monies in their administration of the executive branch.

Speaker 7 (06:02):
However, they don't get to just buy and large decide.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
What Congress has appropriated is not going to go where
it's go or it's supposed to go, because that's constitutional.
And the thing about this that's especially problematic is you're
talking about research grants. You're talking about what helps not
only America move forward, what helps us solve diseases, you know,
or cure diseases.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
And solve major societal problems.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
So taking this money away under the guise of DEI
hurts everybody, black and white and people of all colors.

Speaker 7 (06:28):
And it's stupid. It's just a matter of them flexing
their authority.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
But what you see the Supreme Court allowing this administration
to continue to do is to.

Speaker 7 (06:35):
Try to grab more ground, more ground, and more ground.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
And the problem is going to be it's not going
to be able to be retracted no matter who's in
the office, you know, in the next administration, and you're
going to have a problem where the balance of power
is forever affected by this administration's continue usurpation of power.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
And listen, I keep saying this, Michael, if this is
how Republicans want to roll Democrats to say, oh, let's
be clear, you're going to return the favor.

Speaker 8 (07:03):
Yeah, absolutely, return the favor. Take notes, Understand what's going on.
Understand that this is how dictatorships come into power. This
is taking away power from the legislative branch of government,
the power of the purse Article one, Section nine, Class
seven of the US Constitution. If I remember correctly, the

(07:26):
power to tax and spin belongs to Congress. Donald Trump
is continuing to test the boundaries of the executive branch's authority,
and he continues to get these wins in this Sixth
Street Conservative Supreme Court that he helped set up with
the help of the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society.

(07:48):
And for those that don't know, the Heritage Foundation are
the ones that put out Project twenty twenty five. So yes,
as we see in California, as we see Governor Gaven
Newsom just signing the law to be able to put
on the ballot UH the redistartmee maps, California is fighting back.
Democrats in California are fighting back against this authoritarian regime

(08:09):
and this.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
This we're gonna have to fight all across the country.

Speaker 8 (08:13):
We see Trump saying now next he's going to possibly
probably going to Chicago with at least the National Guard
to crack down on crime, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Once again testing I'm gonna get to that. I want
to stay on the money. I want to stay on
the money.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
And it's all connected, but actually.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
It's not connected. That's separate. That's separate. I'm gonna deal
with that later. I gotta stay on the money because
the whole point, here's the whole point here, and this
is the problem, and Matt, you neled it. The problem
is this here, what he is. What they're essentially saying
is whatever build Congress passes, we can then do whatever
the hell we want to. Now, previous presidents try to

(08:54):
do a line item veto the Supreme Court said that
that's not allowed. Matt, this is a back door line
item ve though. This is literally I mean again, what
I don't understand is is how can a Supreme Court
act as if Congress doesn't matter. The Constitution is clear.
Anything dealing with money begins in the House. It begins

(09:17):
in the House. Congress appropriates, then it goes to the Senate,
and they're just sitting here going, hey, King Trump, go
right ahead.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
Look, appropriation and administration are not the same thing. So
Congress appropriates it. Even if the White House can administer
that money through its executive policy, they're not the primategenitor
of that money.

Speaker 7 (09:37):
The money doesn't come from them, It comes from Congress.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
And the problem with that is one if you want
to have any semblance of the balance of power, this
actually affects the Supreme Court down the line. You're not
seeing it yet, but Congress one of the checks that
Congress actually has on the federal judiciary is the money
it allots to the federal judiciary. Right, so when the
judges want raises, or if the federal judiciary across the
board needs more money, that ultimately comes from Congress. So

(10:03):
what you see sometimes when the federal judiciary is making
decisions that Congress doesn't like, Congress can either pass legislation
or they can decide to rescind some of that money
that goes to the judiciary. I say that to say,
when you are recognizing through court rulings that the executive
can continue to grab more power that affects your bottom
line because of down the road here or she doesn't

(10:23):
like you, and they want to say that the money
Congress appropriated to you is not going to go to you,
then it will not go to you. And it seems
to me to be a dangerous precedent to set rather
than standing firm on the constitutional balance of power that
is supposed to exist.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Well, again, they're just sitting here and like it's no
big deal, And I need people to understand this is
a cult we're dealing with, and they are going to
allow their cult leaders to do whatever it is they
want to do. Now, we have a responsibility to do
what we have to do. And so coming up next,
we're going to talk with Black voters matter about what
they are doing to fight what is going on to

(10:59):
get out people fully fully engage in this battle. You're
watching Roller unfiltered on a Blackstar Network.

Speaker 9 (11:10):
Next, on a Balanced Life here on black Star Network,
we're talking what it means to be a balanced young
adult and turning twenty one. I know twenty one is
one of those ages where you think you're grown. You
can do whatever you want. The law says that you can.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
But what are you packing?

Speaker 9 (11:26):
And you're twenty one year old too? Get that will
allow you to not only survive, but to thrive.

Speaker 10 (11:31):
You have every right to make whatever decision that you
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That's all this week on a Balanced Life with Doctor
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this hit it, It's real, folks.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
I'd essentially said, what is taking place right now is
what Donald Trump, these mega idiots are trying to do.
They're trying to defund Black America. They are attacking every
single thing in Black America. They are attacking civil rights,
economic rights, they're attacking academia, They're attacking everything. And so
we have to be completely and fully engaged in this.

(12:39):
This is a battle, y'all, that deals with everything that
matters to us, unpressing in the rollbacks and civil rights,
access to healthcare, equity, environmental justice, you name it. So,
folks in Black Voters Matter, they're expanding their mission beyond
protecting the rights of black voters. They are now are
focused on supporting black communities, relaunching We Fight Back campaign.
This is launched in twenty twenty four. The campaign aims

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to educating the power of black voters across the country.
BBM is not only fighting against a fascist regime and
racist policies, they're also building a campaign to reimagine democracy.
Joining us right now, the co founalis Cliff All Bright
Watasha Brown glad to have hear y'all on the show.
So I'll start with you, Latasha, So walk us through
what this means, okay, when you say we fight back,

(13:22):
exactly what does this look like? Is this a series
of town halls? Is it online engagement? So exactly what
is this?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
There's a little of all of that.

Speaker 12 (13:32):
I'll just say the setting the frame that what we
believe is we believe that our greatest source of power
and protection in this moment is to actually have an
informed community that we're actually moving in one move, that
we're aligned around, We're understanding what is happening, we understand
the issues, but that we're connected. It has always been
our collective power and the leverage of our collective.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Power that's moved us forward.

Speaker 12 (13:55):
And so for that, what that means for us is
there a series of things that we do a lot
of organizing with local communities. We believe that this is
the moment now for us to really solidify our power
locally and in our state that we know in terms
of federally, like we see what's happening on the federal
government level, and so our best protection is to really
gather ourselves and align with the power that we have

(14:15):
locally in on.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
The state levels.

Speaker 12 (14:17):
And as a result, what we do is we work
with partners all throughout those states we provide funding.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
We're actually having meetings and calls.

Speaker 12 (14:24):
We're we're doing briefings around what's happening from the executive
orders to what's happening to some of the rollbacks. We're
actually doing strategy sessions where we're bringing our states, and
the last month alone, in the last two weeks alone,
several of our states and the partners, anywhere from fifty
to one hundred partners are actually meeting together thinking about
how do they build a strategy number one to protect

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our community.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Number two to really be able to resist and push back.

Speaker 12 (14:50):
In addition to the bus tours that we're doing to
actually inform folks, we have campaigns that are happening. Campaigns
really around this attack on Medicaid and how that's going
to impact health access to our communities. We're also doing
we know that that is really important that criminal justice reform.
We're not ending that because what is happening now that's very.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Important for us.

Speaker 12 (15:12):
So we're continuing to do the work around warrant clinics
and expand that where hundreds and thousands of debt we're
working to eliminate hundreds of thousands of debts for people
in our communities, to make us less vulnerable to the police,
less vulnerable to being in the system. Those are some
of the things, and I'll share Cliff to may want
to raise some other things as well that we're doing.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Cliff, I have long said that a year out. First
of all, y'all believe the same thing. I believe no
such thing as election season. It's three sixty five, seven
days a week, because there are elections happening somewhere in
the country all the time. And the phrase that I

(15:54):
keep using is the need to let's say, a year out.
We know the terms in twenty twenty six, but your
primaries are going to be beginning in the spring in
a lot of these places, and we need to be
operating right now in what I call inform educate and enlighten,
because we have to also recognize it's a lot of

(16:16):
folks that simply don't know. I was on Ricky Smile.
I was on Ricky Smiley's show this morning and talking
about redistricting and jerry mandering and racist jerry mandering in
the Supreme Court case where they could wipe out half
of the Congression of Black Caucus. And so I think
for so long Cliff. People kept assuming people knew and

(16:38):
we can't assume people know what's actually happening.

Speaker 13 (16:42):
Right, that's right, you know, and we have to make
it clear because there's a lot I mean, there's those
of us that do this work every day, and it's
still pieces of it that we don't necessarily know about
it all the time. There's still ins and outs, you know,
even these battles that we're talking about about redistrict thing.
You know, these are maps that we're done, you know,
going back after the twenty twenty centsus that were done

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all throughout twenty twenty one, and so there were all
kinds of meetings and sessions and hearings around these maps
that a lot of people didn't know anything about. And
so part of what we try to do and you
talked about it, the three sixty five work. We do
it all throughout the year, and we do it every year.
It's not even just about twenty eight or about twenty six.

(17:24):
Even this year, we've been doing that work. We've been
having BBM days at the Capitol where we get together
community members and partner organizations and go to the Capitol
and it is an educational process. We're not looking for
folks that are our so called experts on this. Right,
we let everybody know that there's a role to play,
and if you don't know, then that's even better, right,

(17:47):
you know, we make people feel comfortable with the fact
that they don't know, because sometimes we just assume, like
you said, that people understand, not even understand this whole
legislative process, but even the basic voting process. We come
across people all the time when we do our work,
when we do our bus tours, we'll come across somebody.
We'll give them some information about early voting or absentee voting,

(18:09):
or even just about what office is on the ballot,
and we often will hear, you know what, I didn't
know that, I've never known that, Or they'll say, you
know what, I didn't know what this particular position did, right,
I didn't know what a state or a state delegate
or a state house member did, or I didn't know
what my county commissioner did.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
And so we got to let folks know. You know,
that is not a crime or something that we're gonna
shame you about.

Speaker 13 (18:32):
If you come to the table, you come to the
event and you're not already an expert that's what this
process is all about. That's what a dialogue is all about. Right,
And so yes, we've got to make people know that
we want you even if you don't know any of this,
and that's okay. But we're gonna work through all of
this together.

Speaker 7 (18:50):
And we got to do it all throughout the.

Speaker 13 (18:51):
Year three sixty five because we fight back. Our issues
are not based on an election calendar. Our oppression has
never been based on an election cand so our resistance
to it can't be based just on an election calendar.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Absolutely. And you know, you know, Gary Chambers is doing
some workdown in Louisiana and I was, I was meeting.
I spoke in Ohio last month of Latasha and it
was so funny. I was sitting with the brother.

Speaker 14 (19:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
He was he was laying out, you know, this comprehensive strategy.

Speaker 15 (19:23):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
And I said to him, I said, too convoluted, too convoluted.
He was like, what do you mean. I said, you
had thirty thousand feet and he's a professor. I said,
that's a election. And we were we were so we
were at we were at dinner. He was like, what
do you mean, what do you mean? I kept saying,
I kept evoking, it kept evoking my man Joe Madison,

(19:43):
So you got to put it, but those can get it.
And he was like, what do you mean? What do
you mean? I said, and so he's I said, give
me your topics. He gave me his time. I said,
those are lectures. I said, your sessions need to be
city hall one on one, kind of government on one.
I said, were you literally are walking people through what
city government does? What county government does? I said, basic fundamentals,

(20:07):
because I think the issue that we saw and all
these people who were saying, Bob Harris haven't done this
here and the Democrats haven't done this here, and you
were like, well the Democrats in the House passed the bill,
but installed in the Senate. You can't act like that
didn't happen. And then when folks say, well the stuff
ain't happening, and then you go, well, no, this happened,

(20:28):
and this happened, this happening in this state, and this
happened in this state. It's amazing to me when I
talk to people a lot of folks who got their
degrees and everything, they actually just don't know how politics works.

Speaker 12 (20:45):
You know, Roman, I think you're absolutely right which is
why our strategy has always been threefold.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
I always talk about I think of it as a three.

Speaker 12 (20:54):
Lettered fold of table of what the work that we do. One,
it's been about money moved and message money in the
sense that we know that grassroom groups, there are people
that know they're folks in our communities, on the front
lines that are doing.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
This day in and day out.

Speaker 12 (21:09):
Matter of fact, part of our survival is because there's
been grassroom groups, because we have black media platforms like
yours to get our message out, for us to be
able to connect, because we have black organizations that we
can get information or that will respond to something that's happening.
That has been part of our survival and our ability
to be able to progress.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
And so we need to make sure that we're getting
money two platforms such as yours organizations like ours, so
that we're really black controlled and we're actually being able
to have a freedom from the misths and disinformation.

Speaker 12 (21:38):
The second thing I think is really important around movement
building infrastructure, that if we're going to do this work, we've.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Got to really come together as community.

Speaker 12 (21:45):
It can't just be a one off like part of
what we saw oftentimes and the election cycles is that
there are two the parties will pick two or three issues,
and then the issue is abortion. And if we're not
talking about abortion.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Then there's nothing else that's being talked about on that platform.

Speaker 12 (22:01):
Many folks in our communities, that's not the top of
their list of what they're concerned about. They're concerned about
from medical access. They may be concerned about some.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Of the chronic illnesses that are happening in our communities
and seeing the cuts or the closures of hospitals, and
so it's really important that we're doing that work as well.
And then message to your point. I think part of
what we've.

Speaker 12 (22:20):
Seen is over the years, we've actually seen this misinformation
and disinformation that is documented that was targeted at black voters,
and so we have to really in this moment, we've
got to be real disciplined. We have to listen to credible,
trusted messengers, people who have time and time again that
you can actually follow along they're getting bringing us good

(22:41):
information and really be able to discern what information is
not good, or not information is not relevant, or where
the source is. The second thing is, I don't think
it's going to be enough just to understand kind of
the functions of government.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
We need to understand, yes, the functions of.

Speaker 12 (22:55):
Government, that's baseline, but we also need to understand I
always talk about this radical realm.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Of what our north star is. We've got to really
get clear as the community of what it is that we.

Speaker 12 (23:05):
Want so that we're not constantly responding to those who
don't want that. We know that there are those who
don't want us to have anything, and so I think
it's really important in this moment that we don't just
see this as a set back.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
We've got to see this as a setup.

Speaker 12 (23:18):
We can't just go and ask that we just want
a bill or a policy pass. At this point, we
need to say we want to see the we want
the whole thing. If there's going to be a realignment.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
And let's get it right that even the Voting Rights
Act in itself was never enough.

Speaker 12 (23:33):
That doctor Kingingham didn't think that that was the end.
They thought that that was actually a space and that
was an additional services of protection of our right to vote.
And so we've got to even ask for more and
go dark even go and organize ourselves to ask for more.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
One of the things that Cliff I was in Ohio
to Cincinnati last year and a brother who's in Alpha.
I was in a restaurant. He was there with his
daughter and he came up to me and he greeted me,
and he said they were doing voter registration the next
day at the Bengals game. And I said why, He goes,

(24:10):
what do you mean? I said why? I said, okay,
I said, how much time are y'all gonna spend out there?

Speaker 7 (24:17):
So?

Speaker 1 (24:17):
I said, you're gonna spend in the pregame. You's gonna
be there part two two and a half hours. I said,
how many people are gonna come through come through there
to register the vote? I said. I said, I'm not
saying that's not necessary, I said, but I said, I'm
very curious. I said, have y'all ever considered pulling the

(24:37):
twenty or twenty five blackest precinct in Cincinnati. He's like,
what do you mean? I said, well, you can actually
go get the data and see where the votes are,
where African Americans are registered. I said, where do they live?
I said, then you can pull that and you'll be
able to see who voted in last election and who didn't.
I said, so, if you're talking about impact elections, I said,

(25:02):
and you have finite people, finite time, finite resources. I said,
have a more targeted approach. He was so blown away
by that. And then I had when I was in
North Carolina, our former general President Everyward, got a group
brothers together and I said the exact same thing. I said,
y'all in North Carolina, I said, do y'all know many
black people did not vote in Shery Beasley's Supreme Court

(25:23):
justice race. How many black people did not vote in
the last election. I said, this is how we have
to target our time, energy, and resources. And they were
shocked because they were trying to take this macro approach.
I said, but really, if we want to move black numbers,
it actually has to be a micro approach, which is
really person, door to door, street street by street, block

(25:47):
by block, precinct, neighborhood.

Speaker 13 (25:51):
Yeah, you know, and so yeah, absolutely right, you know,
And what our approach is usually really to actually do
a combination of those, right, And I think what Tasha
touched doing that a little earlier when she was talking
about the layering of the approach, because we certainly need
those things that are that are very micro, right, that
are targeting. Okay, who exactly is it that we know
that we got to reach. You know, what's their demographic,

(26:12):
you know, where they go, what do they listen to?

Speaker 7 (26:14):
All that stuff?

Speaker 13 (26:15):
Right, But then we also layer it with different levels
of some of the wider stuff. And so we have
this belief that if you get a couple of text
messages from us, a couple of phone calls, you get
a door knock, then you see that billboard while you're
on your way driving right to work, and then you
see something on YouTube because sometimes we do our YouTube ads.

(26:35):
You know that because you did one of our trumping
trump A videos last year, right, And so so we
believe that you can do the combination of like the
wide visibility we call the visibility work, and then combine
that with like the real macro you know, we want
to touch you at your door, on your phone. That's

(26:56):
when we tend to get maximum input. And what we
found last year we targeted three point two million black
voters who had not voted in twenty twenty right, and
out of those three point two fifty percent of them
turned out in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 16 (27:14):
Right.

Speaker 7 (27:14):
Now, some of y'all might say, well, fifty percent, that's
not a huge number.

Speaker 13 (27:17):
But mind you, this is fifty This is three point
two million, not folks that were new registered right that
they were unregistered in twenty twenty and then they got
registered by twenty four. These were folks who were registered
in twenty who not just decided I'm not voting.

Speaker 7 (27:32):
Y'all ain't moving me. And fifty percent of those folks
that we targeted they turned out.

Speaker 13 (27:38):
That's on top of like the other folks that we
target that you know, they're they're they're kind of regular,
they might be super voters.

Speaker 7 (27:44):
We got them to turn out too, But we know
how to get those folks that you know, for one election.

Speaker 13 (27:48):
We're like, y'all not doing enough for me, I'm not
going to turn out, and then finding a way to
communicate through that combination of the targeted, the micro and
the macro to get them to turn out. So you know,
so you right though, because there's a lot of folks
that won't do right that Mike ro that that that
you're talking and.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
See Latasha, the reason I said that to the brother,
I said, because I said, y'all are operating as a
chapter and so so you just you talked about infrastructure
and I said this to alphas nationally, I said, listen,
we have undergrad chapters. Grad chapters, I said, but you
have a local chapter. Then you've got your combination of
your chapters in the city. Then you've got your state chapters,

(28:28):
then you got your region, and then you got national internationally.
And so what I say the folk is, I said,
if you're local, if you're local local, stop trying to
be in somebody else's city. I said, be in your city,
and then take your city, and then break your city
down by sections of the city, by neighborhoods, and then

(28:52):
block street houses. And the brother was like, damn, I'm
taking that. And so and so I had another chapter
that hit me up up and they said, dude, can
you do a session? And when I walked them through,
they were like, damn, we ain't thought about that. And
that's why I think what we have to do, those
of us in black on media, what y'all do as well,
is literally walk people through, because I think a lot

(29:12):
of people tah should go, man, that's a whole lot.
It's like no, no, no, no, no, I don't want
you to do a whole lot. Can you knock on
five doors? Then they go, yeah, knock on five doors.
I'm like, got it. Now you go get five other people,
and now the five of y'all, get six of y'all
go knock on five doors each. Now we got thirty doors.
And they go, well, that's doable. And so I think

(29:32):
sometimes we just got to make this thing easy for
people and not make it complicated. I agree.

Speaker 12 (29:38):
I think it's a couple of things that you said,
because I do want to note I think a simple
law of multiplications, right, Literally, you organize, and let's be clear.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
On what our mamas and daddy said, Baby, that's basic math.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
That's basic maths.

Speaker 12 (29:53):
And you know, the other piece around it, too, is
for us to really look at and there's nothing new
under the sign. If you go and you look at
black machines, black political machine, how you got the first
black mayor of Atlanta, the first black mayor of Chicago
when you start, when you start looking at how black people.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Start getting into political office.

Speaker 12 (30:14):
Quite frankly, it was because of organizing, and it was
a map of organizing street by street, block by.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Blocktown by town. But let me say this, I think
that it's not just a matter of organizing the votes.

Speaker 12 (30:24):
We really got to think about we are in a
different environment, whether people want to acknowledge it or not
working right. The rules, all the rules that we knew
are all the rules. All of those things we're seeing
every single day. You know, we're hearing the President talk
about he doesn't like mail in battles. He's gonna get
rid of mail in balles. He technically doesn't even have
the ability to.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Be able to do that.

Speaker 12 (30:46):
He doesn't have, but he's saying that because he's planning
a seed. Because what we're seeing is the letter of
the law they don't believe applies to them.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
And so what does that mean for us?

Speaker 12 (30:55):
If we're actually gonna engage with folks that don't believe
that they've got to follow the law or they're above
the law. What that means is we've got to lean
into our own power. Part of that is we have
to organize our every bit of power. We've got to
organize our resources. We've got to organize how we direct
what it is that we focus on and organize and
really tap into each other. As you were saying, information

(31:18):
is valuable, and so people've.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Got to get information.

Speaker 12 (31:21):
But we can't just stay there and we can't believe
that we're just gonna get We just gonna vote ourselves
out of there.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
As much as I am for voting right, that in itself.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Will not be enough.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
But we cannot lead that tool on the table because
this next election cycle, like when people are not supporting
our community, there has to be consequences. There has to
be consequences. If we got to get so sophisticated. Some
people may not agree with this.

Speaker 12 (31:44):
We got to get so sophisticated that if folks turn
all of these districts, and I know that's some Democrats
gonna get.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Upset about me saying this.

Speaker 12 (31:51):
If they are turning these districts where it is impossible
for a Republican not to win, that, we got to
figure out how we gonna make sure that we're impacting
that election. But even that primary, you've got to be sophisticated.
We have no permanent friends, We have permanent interests, and
that is the protection of black people. So I think

(32:12):
it's really important at this moment for us to really
understand we've got to organize our resources very differently.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
We've got to put our money towards black institutions.

Speaker 12 (32:22):
If you are not contributing to this show, if you're
we're seeing what most we're seeing what mainstream media is doing.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
We're seeing what what what is going to be?

Speaker 12 (32:30):
MSM now, MS now, we're seeing all of them capitulate and.

Speaker 17 (32:34):
Go to go to the right right.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, I call it MS say it's more silly shit.
All right. I want to go to my panel, want
to get them some questions in. Let me, uh, do
we have Julian your audio finally working? I'm lord, have
mercy finally gone? I don't ask your questions the Cliff, Latasha.

Speaker 18 (32:56):
Okay, Well, Natasha and Cliff, thank you, thank you for
your work. We really appreciate it. I want to know, Cliff,
you talked about the precinct by preacinct, really blocked by block.

Speaker 16 (33:07):
Why have we not embraced this earlier?

Speaker 18 (33:09):
I remember, I mean my political chops go way back
Jack Jackson Delegate.

Speaker 16 (33:14):
Eighty four, but even before that, and we used to
do that. What happened? Was it the Internet? Why have
we been in the strategy that we know works?

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Well?

Speaker 13 (33:26):
Did you want to I think it's I think it's
a couple of things. And let me tell you this first,
doctor Malabau. A lot of people don't notice about me,
but my my my early academic background was actually in
economics and business, and you're actually one of the reasons
why that was so. And so, you know, I spent
most of my organizing career combining you know, basically political economy,

(33:49):
like the political analysis and economic analysis, and so I
just wanted to shout you out.

Speaker 7 (33:53):
For that and thank you for that. You know, I
think there's a I think there's a bunch that just
several reasons, right.

Speaker 13 (33:59):
I think that the internet is in social media is
part of it, right where now we've got a lot
of folks that feel like we can just you and
to be clear, it is a tool, right, But there's
some people who have abandoned, you know what we've been
talking about, to the old school ways, and not just
abandon it, but not just abandoned in the sense that

(34:20):
they've moved on, but even abandoned in a way where
like we look back at like traditional organizing, like you know,
like that's ancient and that was backwards and that was
prem you know, like this negative conversation to some of
the ways that we've always organized. So I certainly think
that some of the technology is a part of that.
I think that you know, also some of it is

(34:42):
that we've been told that it doesn't work. Like even
right now, we're still being told that it doesn't work.
Like we're still being told that the things that we
did to make such changes and to get election results
in places like Georgia in twenty twenty and so many
other places that oh, you know that that doesn't work.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
See that's how come, that's I'll come.

Speaker 13 (35:03):
Twenty twenty four happened and Trump was able to win, right,
which is not the case. But a lot of times
what happens is, you know, every time there's a loss
or a parent loss, you know, people want to try
to get you to change the way that you've done stuff.
And a lot of times they're trying to get you
to change it either because they know that it's successful

(35:24):
and they want you to change course and to do
some other stuff that won't be as strategic and as impactful.
And then sometimes they want you to change because and
again I think that this is what's happening now in
terms of progressive circles and democratic circles, because it's not
their thing, and they'd rather that all the attention and

(35:46):
all the resources be put in the stuff that they
do that advertising people want to tell you that doing
door knocking in old school advertising doesn't work, and that's
why all this fundraising needs to go into doing these
ads right, which weren't effective in the last cycle because
they couldn't encounter the advertising and disinformation that was coming

(36:06):
from the other side, right. And so I think there's
a lot of reasons, some of the technology, some of
it because different people have different motives, and sometimes people
just simply they don't want us to win and want
us to doubt ourselves.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Well, well, I'm gonna put one thing on the table.
And I did a whole thing on this before a
couple of months ago, and I think it's still the case.
And to Julian's question, I think the fundamental problem is
we have gotten where we are today because there's been

(36:40):
a group of black people who committed their lives to
changing our communities. And those black people they're retiring and
they're passing away, and the problem is they're not being replaced.
If anybody steps back and go if you talk to
anybody who's a baby boomer or gen X, they probably

(37:02):
can say, oh, miss so and so we all know
in different communities, largely un likely a miss so and so,
but also a mister so and so who work precincts,
did elections, they every single election, Well guess what they now,
seventy seventy five, eighty eighty five, they tired and meant something,

(37:25):
they retired and moved on again or passed away. So
the problem is these are the people who went to
city council meetings, who went to county commissioner's meetings, who
kept us informed. And the problem is those people have
not been replaced Latasha. And if we really look at Florida,
North Carolina, and y'all know, y'all interfaced with those folks,

(37:48):
and you see them sisters and them brothers out there,
and listen, they in their seventies and eighties, still trying
to fight. And then you say, well, whereas they back up?
And that's part of the deals. So we literally, as
black people, we actually have to replenish our black infrastructure,
because what I have said is we've had now two

(38:11):
generations that's made a whole lot of withdrawals from the
Black Bank of Justice. They made many deposits.

Speaker 7 (38:19):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I think it's a couple.

Speaker 12 (38:22):
I do think it's a little more nuanced though, while
I absolutely agree with you that where are the.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Soldiers that are coming behind the generals to do this work.

Speaker 12 (38:30):
But I will also say that there have been some
mechanisms in the last decade or so that is actually
undermine black organized in black infrastructure.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
You know, I can even go from an Obama campaign,
and I know that may be controversy inself.

Speaker 12 (38:42):
But what we did not see that there were always
black political infrastructures in the South. You knew who the
black machine was in Alabama, if you had done any
black work, you knew who the machine was in Alabama.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
You knew who the machine was. In Mississippi. You knew
the machine.

Speaker 12 (38:57):
A lot of the infrastructure to Reverend Jesse Jackson credit
a lot.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Of from eighty four nineteen o eight campaigns.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
There was a black infrastructure in terms of how that
he had some he had a big ass coat. Yes,
he had a big People don't understand the number of
black city council members for the first time county commissioners shares.
I mean black people were elected to office for the
first time ever in eighty four and eighty eight. That's right,

(39:26):
And so.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Was a black political machine.

Speaker 12 (39:30):
We used black media, we used black consultants, we used
black organizers. There was a political machine that actually operated
in many ways almost like an independent party in some instances. Right,
what we've actually seen is I can actually count to
or meetings that I was in over a decade. Again,
I remember meeting I was in with Melanie Campbell and

(39:51):
some other leaders that literally we were saying that what
you all were doing is undermining like this model of
how we organized, where there was this idea of board
and technology, like it didn't count that when you organize,
you got to organize using a particular kind of technology.
We saw it when it came to voter registrations that

(40:11):
the other thing that we got to take on.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Now we got to take our lane. But voter suppression
has worked that many of that. When you see there's very.

Speaker 12 (40:20):
Very few organizations that are trying to do mass scale
voter registration. You know why because it's costly, because nine
times out of ten it is going to require a
costly legal fight. That voter suppression has been killing us.
It's been death by a thousand cuts, and so it
has been a combination.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
That's what we're seeing. That's why we saw voter suppression
efforts like it wasn't even with the stripping of preclearance.

Speaker 12 (40:43):
All of those things have had an accumulative effect on
our communities and dismantling what I call old school.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Black political machines. So there's a replenticship issue, but there's
also an issue in terms of the infrastructure and philanthropy
and my last point party reason why we created Black
Voters Matter.

Speaker 12 (41:02):
We wanted to create a mechanism to get resources on
the ground because what we had seen is that a
lot of the resources would go to candidate campaign and
they would throw some dollars in the last three weeks
of the campaign around the negroes.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Up and that was all that when you saw.

Speaker 12 (41:16):
What we decided is that if we're going to be
a power, we needed to create eight and we need
to create some.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Kind of mechanism to fund our politics.

Speaker 12 (41:24):
And as a result, we have actually contributed and I'm
investing over fifty two million dollars and Grassroom might be
fifty four is a fifty four clip, I don't know,
fifty two war or fifty four either way, fifty plus
million dollars that we've actually ridden checks given directly to
groop groups, hundreds of Grassroom groups on the ground. Because
even the fickleness of philanthropy of oh you may not

(41:46):
be you might be important this time, but not this time,
We're always important to us. So there is a cumulative
effect that ultimately what makes it clear that there's nobody
that is going to look out for black interests like
black people. And if that is the case, that we've
got to think very differently how we utilize our resources and.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Our money, time and downtown.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
A question from Matt.

Speaker 7 (42:10):
So my question for you, Cliff and Latasha is specifically
with respect to health equity.

Speaker 6 (42:15):
I'm interested in how that looks, what that looks like
in terms of the push in the We Fight Back campaign.
And the reason I ask is because I think that's
kind of an untapped policy point as it relates to
all Americans frankly, but our healthcare system and just the
unsustainability of it, and I'd be interested in seeing what
that looks like, particularly with the campaign.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Thanks.

Speaker 13 (42:37):
You know, we have even before the most recent attacks
on healthcare and medicaid, you know, for the past couple
of years, we've been doing some work around Medicaid expansion,
trying to get the remaining ten states most of what
you're in the South to actually expand Medicaid. The most
recent victory on that actually came from North Carolina where

(42:57):
our team and our partners there in North Carolina a
lot of work to get Medicaid expanded there, to get
Obamacare expanded there, and so we have been doing network already.

Speaker 7 (43:07):
We call it our Sick and Tired campaign, and we got.

Speaker 13 (43:09):
Some of our bus tours and baby bus tours that
will go around just doing a whole bunch of info
sessions around the realities of healthcare, letting people know like
how many people in their state could could could get
it if it was expanded. You know, We've got movies
and the documentaries that we show sometimes, including one that

(43:29):
I'm in talked about my own personal story with battles
around health and health care. It's called Indue Season, And
we go around and we've done like Minnie town halls,
will show that and then have a conversation, and so
we try to use a variety of tools again and
to have these conversations because we know that that's an
important issue in our communities obviously, but we also know

(43:53):
that that's a conversation that then does what it drives
some people who may not have been involved in the
electoral process to get involved. And that's the way that
we do all of our organizing. Right, we don't focus
on the election process. I mean we do sometimes we're
talking about voting rights and voter expression, but we're not
just going around telling people for a clipboard, hey have
you registered tign this?

Speaker 15 (44:13):
Right?

Speaker 7 (44:14):
It's about hey, tell me about what issue you care about?

Speaker 13 (44:17):
Right, what is it that you that you are most
concerned about that you want to see for yourself, your family,
your community, And now let's have a conversation about how
we can make that a reality and how elections are
a part of that. But it's not the only way, right,
there's other forms of organizing that we do to to
to get to the ends that we want, including around health.

Speaker 7 (44:36):
Care and Medicare expansion. So that's the way that we
do our work.

Speaker 13 (44:39):
Obviously, now we're also focused on the big ugly bill
and the attacks that is bringing against our health care
and everything else that's that's in that bill that's going
to be attacked, our food, insecurity and everything else. But yeah,
we've always been concerned with in organizing around healthcare writ
large and Medicaid expansion, in particularly.

Speaker 8 (45:04):
Michael all Right, Cliff and Latasha. So my question is,
how do we connect political empowerment and the work that
you're doing. How do we connect that with leveraging our
economics to enforce our political agenda and communicating that with people.

(45:25):
For instance, the economic boycotts against Target because of them
going back on their DEI, cutting back on their DEI programs,
things like this. And then also we've seen efforts in
the past, like in New York in twenty seventeen divesting
from pension funds, that divesting using pension for us to
divest from privatized prisons because they found out that we're

(45:48):
invested in privatized prisons. How do we connect all of
that together?

Speaker 2 (45:53):
You know, all of it goes back and I know
we say it almost like a broken.

Speaker 12 (45:57):
Record, but it all goes back to organizing almost all
all of our elements. Even what the work that we do,
there's going to be an education component to it, connected
to the campaign, there's going to be an advocacy component
to it, and there's going to be an organizing component
to it.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
And that we're thinking about that even as we.

Speaker 12 (46:13):
Were doing voter work around voter suppression that was an
economic pressure point that.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
We had with that we then just based on.

Speaker 12 (46:20):
Okay, this is as we educated people around what was happening,
we organized our groups together to really think about strategy,
and one of the strategies that we use we actually targeted.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Even some of our county places.

Speaker 12 (46:34):
We targeted those elected officials who were supporting voter suppression.
That many of them were targeted even at the local
county level where they had contracts with their county as
the local attorney or some kind of vendor. Those contact
tracks got counseled or pushed back.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
By local folks. We saw a broad base.

Speaker 12 (46:52):
Where we did a huge campaign around companies who were
we felt like should have been standing with George, and
they might have been like, what we got to do
with it?

Speaker 2 (46:59):
It's like you got everything to do it. If you
get black money, you got something to do with it.

Speaker 12 (47:02):
And so I think it's a matter of trying to
make sure that we're doing our pressure points. I'm saying
that because I think it's important to your point around
the economic It can't come in the vacuum. This idea
of we're just gonna build enough wealthy folks and that's
gonna save us. How's that working out for us? I'm
just I was just been talking about the other day
that five years post slavery, there were over two thousand

(47:23):
schools that were started. There were sixty cities, I mean,
sixty hospitals. There were over twelve hundred towns that were founded.
In Texas alone.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
They called them freedom colonists.

Speaker 12 (47:35):
There were five hundred freedom coloniests, I mean just in
Texas alone.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
My point is that it is I'm sorry, not five
hundred fifty seven fifty seven.

Speaker 12 (47:45):
My point is Black people were thinking more in terms
of self determination right, possibly because we had to, But
what we were doing is we were thinking as builders
that we've got to build the infrastructure to support ourselves
in this mechanism.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
We have to do all all the things.

Speaker 12 (48:00):
Yes, we've got to push. That's why we support reparations
with the work.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
That we're doing. That there has to be a larger
issue that is just not economic.

Speaker 12 (48:08):
You can't have a two hundred four hundred head start
use or use our bodies as collateral and leverage to
build wealth in this country, use our label to exploit
and build in this country, and then look at us
and try to figure out and say what we don't
understand why you're doing.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
No, we want our money.

Speaker 12 (48:23):
We want our money that we've invested that, We want
our money that we've earned, that what we put the.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Value in this country.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
We want that.

Speaker 12 (48:30):
And I think it is also important for us to think, now,
how were we connecting the twos in such a way
that we can circulate more than dollar in our communities.
What are some new economic models we need to look at.
Are we looking at cooperatives? Are we looking at how
do we build black businesses in a way that we're
doing a distribution of resources in a much different way
that will work for our people opposed to what we're trying,

(48:53):
what we're seeing on mainstream. So there's a combination of
pieces that we use in terms of one figuring out
how we educate an informed for to figure out how.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
We organize us to be able to leverage our power.
And then three it has some real concrete alternatives that
are not based on what we see right now.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Well, you talked about money, and I've said to people, listen,
don't give money to candidates. Get that money to black
voters matter. We need to have money that goes directly
on the ground that we know that white media strategies
are not gonna be sucking up the money as well,
and then it's much better use last point here. First
of all, how y'all gonna wear y'all Black voters Matter daishiki,

(49:31):
and y'all ain't telling nobody.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
First of all, we didn't even coordinate this. So I'm
actually surprised when Cliff got.

Speaker 12 (49:37):
On all like, oh, okay, clip, I mean, y'all were
rocking black and proud these days. Listen, we got we're
gonna remind America, reminding us that we reminding America.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Okay, So I mean, I mean this was this was
just a night before last. Turn the audio up. I
don't understand why y'all this come on. Turn audio up.
So my man Latasha Brown man Cliff, all right, they
knew different African tops I had, so they sent me,
uh this, uh this dashiki black start. Matter of fact,

(50:07):
I'm stay right in the front. So this so they
sent me, I know, noice, I got it. They sent
me this this Black voters Matter, uh sheiki. So y'all
see what it looks like right here? This one looks
like on the back. Uh. And so then they have
but you see right here, they got BBM on the
sleeves as well, So I'm not not sure if they

(50:30):
have it on their website. I think they do, So
go to Black Voters Matter uh dot com if y'all
all right, So people asked me, so if they want one,
where they get it, Well, this one is.

Speaker 19 (50:42):
Kind of special.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I don't think they can order this week the Clinton.

Speaker 7 (50:45):
I think we I think we have one version of
it on the website. Okay, double check.

Speaker 13 (50:50):
But they could go to our website, Black Voters matterfund
dot org uh in the menu somewhere on it at
shop and it's got you know, our shirts and hoodies.
And I'm pretty sure that there's there's one of these
shiki's on there. If there's not, you know, she just
a she just an email and and we'll see if
we could get it.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Get it at it. Man, Man, y'all, y'all better move
some product.

Speaker 16 (51:11):
We need to learn some product.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Y'all better moved some Listen, y'all better hold I'm checking
right now. Listen here, shop that is it on there? Oh? Listen, y'all,
we're gonna have to talk.

Speaker 7 (51:24):
What's up, y'all?

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Shop button ain't working? Look right here. Look, I'm clicking,
I click shop.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Oh well, we gotta get that fit.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Y'all gotta get that. Y'all gonna come on now that
would get.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Listen, then y'all worry about some good pride. In the hour,
we're gonna get it fixed. You get it fixed.

Speaker 13 (51:40):
A but before we go, Roller, I gotta I gotta
say just the quick word if we still got a minute,
just I gotta say a quick word about what's going
on with with with DC and what's going on.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
I got I got sixty seconds, uh because I got
against wait.

Speaker 7 (51:56):
And go ahead, okay, sixty seconds.

Speaker 13 (51:59):
We all know, you know Roller has been talking about
what's been going on in DC, the invasion in DC.
We got a bunch of actions that are that we
got on our website and on our social media if
you want to find out what's going on.

Speaker 7 (52:10):
Two things.

Speaker 13 (52:11):
One, we got a zoom webinar that we're doing tomorrow.
We're gonna be talking about DC. We could have some
of the DC activists on there. We're gonna talk about
the calls the action that we have. We're doing a
call campaign to get Congress to end the occupation of DC.
We got another call campaign that we got in those
six states that have sent national guards. So we got
folks in those states that are gonna be making calls

(52:33):
and organizing around that.

Speaker 7 (52:34):
So to find out more, you can text.

Speaker 20 (52:37):
Free d C, Free d C to two five to
two five, Free d C to two five to two five,
and it'll get you a link that you can get
onto the zoom webinar and you can hear all that
information and find out about.

Speaker 13 (52:51):
Those those calls of action. We have got to we
got to be clear at what's going on in DC
right now.

Speaker 7 (52:56):
It's not just about d C. It's coming to all
of our city.

Speaker 15 (53:00):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (53:00):
We gotta stop it in DC right now.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
All right, Van, I'm quite sure I'll be seeing y'all
on the road in the fall. We appreciate it, Thanks
a lot, Thank you. All right, folks, gotta go to
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Speaker 1 (56:39):
Gonna be good. Well, the thugging chief continues his thuggish ways.
Donald Trump is now threatened to take over Washington, DC.
Listen to this year stupidsy.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
And I'm dying of listening to these people say how safe.
It was before we got here. It was unsafe.

Speaker 25 (57:05):
It was horrible. And Mayor Bowser better get her acts
grat or she won't be there very low because we'll
take it over with the federal government runner like it's
supposed to be run. The numbers were horrible. It was
a crime infested rat hole, and they do have a
lot of rats. We're getting rid of them too.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Yeah, he's a liar. He's a liar. Doesn't support as well,
and the folks said WJLA also did their own reporting
about what's going on as well, and guess what they're
not arresting for folks for violent crime, not doing that.
It's actually a whole bunch of misdemeanors. That's what's actually

(57:44):
going on. WJLA said that the White House, they said
seven News obtain a copy of the breakdown of each
arrest outside of immigration and customer enforcement apprehensions would show
that the majority of the rests and interactions aren't for
violent crimes and noticed every documented arrests during the takeover.
The US Martial Service says it's responsible for the overall

(58:06):
operations outside of immigration enforcement. There have been three hundred
and seventy nine arrest documented. There were according to them,
give me one second, let me pull this up again.
At error. Here there were three hundred and seven nine
arrest documented, more misdemeanors and traffic citations than violent crime arrests,

(58:28):
a total of three hundred and seventy seven citations and
quoted other arrests violent arrests. Nine arrests are recorded, which
include homicide, in cess crimes. He's a liar, Matt, He's
a flat out liar, and the media stoodup there and
allowed him to lie.

Speaker 6 (58:50):
I mean, yeah, that's part and parcel what they've seen,
we've seen them do with him. And you know, the
reality is, the facts don't matter, the data doesn't matter.
I mean, I saw Larry Krasner recently just up the
road in Philly talking about how Philly is that, like
it's fifty year low I think in homicides this year.

Speaker 7 (59:06):
But what does Trump do? He comes out and says,
you know, Philly and Oakland and all these cities.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
Are dangerous despite the data unequivocally showing that those places
are safer than they have been because crime is down,
And the reality is his base doesn't care about that,
and for whatever reason, the media is not checking him
on that, and that really is a huge problem, right
because he can ideologically have whatever opinion he has, but
he can't have the facts. And if the facts don't

(59:31):
buttress what you're saying, then somebody should be calling you
out saying, hey, you're saying that, but this is a
thirty year low, so it really cannot be what you're
saying it is, and therefore the actions you're taking are
not justified by the data right objectively, And that's what
you're seeing here. And it's interesting because you know, as
a former prosecutor, I saw this same thing on a
very local level with conservatives.

Speaker 7 (59:52):
You know what they do.

Speaker 6 (59:53):
They talk tough on crime all the time, and then
they would come sit in my office when Buffy got
a little too drunk leaving the college, and they would
tell me about how she deserves the second chance. Right,
But the black kids across town, the mongrels across town
are not supposed to get that opportunity. And that is
at play in this very situation with Trump in DC,
because even if the.

Speaker 7 (01:00:12):
Crime is down, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 6 (01:00:14):
You're not talking about the kids from Georgetown and George
Washington and all the college kids. What he's trying to
do is say all of these people in DC are criminals,
and it doesn't matter what the data actually says about
how the crime is down. I'm going to continue running
with this narrative because I want to do what it
is I want to do, which is overtake DC. And
this is the subject fusee for that. You see that

(01:00:35):
on the local level, and you see that at play
right now in DC and his overtaking of the district.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Michael, is not just DC. This is what the liar
in chief say it about Chicago and New York. Listen,
Chicago is a mess.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
You have an incompetent mayor grossly incompetent.

Speaker 25 (01:00:51):
And we'll straighten that one out probably next That'll be
our next one after this, and it won't even be tough.
And the people in Chicago, mister Vice President, are screaming
for us to come there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
They're wearing red hats just like this one, but they're
wearing red hats.

Speaker 25 (01:01:08):
African American ladies, beautiful ladies, are saying, please, President Trump,
come to Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Please.

Speaker 25 (01:01:16):
I did great with the black vote, as you know,
and they want something to happen. So I think Chicago
will be our next and then we'll.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Help with New York, and we're going to help with
and I.

Speaker 25 (01:01:28):
Think, really, I think a lot of and a lot
of these people that you see on television, they are,
including the people in this audience. They'll say bad things
about me and then they'll say, thank god he's here,
because half of them got mugged and they don't want
to get mugged again. But you know, they work for
a ladder. They work for stupid people at a radical left,
and they're made to do things and say things that

(01:01:50):
they don't want to be saying. But the people right
here are all happy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Because you And here's the deal. JD. Advance is staying
there working for a stupid person, Michael Pier and simple.
But JD.

Speaker 8 (01:02:01):
Vance as stupid as well. So what we have here,
once again is the authoritarian play. But authoritarians always go
after the most vulnerable groups of people to target. They
go after the people who are deemed as the least desirable.
Adolf Hitler went after those who are handicapped, went after

(01:02:23):
those who are part of the LGBT community. He also
went after afro Germans. Here you see Donald Trump talking
about Chicago. Well, the Hubbington Post. You know, they just
posted their article and he's saying, you know, all these
African American ladies.

Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
Want me to come in things like this. But the
Hubbington Post just posted.

Speaker 8 (01:02:41):
They said, considering Kamala Harris beat Donald Trump and Cook County,
Illinois by about seventy five about a seventy five percent margin.
There were a lot of social media skeptics to what
he's saying. But this is the model that he's trying
to roll out across the country. Okay, Now it's gonna
be harder in other states like Illinois and California things

(01:03:05):
like this, because they actually have governors who with Wathington
d C does not.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
But this is why we have to fight this.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
Okay, this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Is the playbook, and this is straight out of Project
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 8 (01:03:15):
Is Robert Mattillo says yesterday, I think it was yesterday
on your show, we talked about page of five to
fifty five for Project twenty twenty five. This is what
they're laying out there, and they're spewing racism to justify
this authoritarian temple.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
And Julian, here's the deal. First of all, it's some
black woman who is I think a quasi fitness person
who's one of them, Trumper and read something. I don't
know what the hell. I don't listen to them at all.
But here's the whole deal here, Julian first and foremost,
he just can't roll up in Chicago. See, he just

(01:03:52):
can't declare any emergency in Chicago. No, they how his works,
and you go get it that soon and they're gonna lose.
And trust me, Chicago ain't gonna respond the same way
you're seeing in DC. Okay, so, uh, we see what
this fool is doing. But you notice there are eight
out of the top ten homicide states that eight of

(01:04:14):
them are red. He ain't talking about going to those states.

Speaker 17 (01:04:17):
Is it?

Speaker 18 (01:04:21):
Well, you know he said, the irony of him sending
the Mississippi sitting the actual guard here, it is a
horrible irony.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Yeah, they broke ass. What they broke ass?

Speaker 18 (01:04:34):
Well they not only with they broke asses, but also
with their crime ridden asses. I mean, go to Jackson, Mississippi.
He's afraid to do that. But let me take you
downtown d C. And in the past week we have
seen off fourteenth Street, where you know it's a young
people central. This guy who runs a restaurant of Clubby

(01:04:55):
Place said last Saturday night, he said they had about
thirty percent of the people. They usually have two couples
of the dance floor. I was walking up Fourteenth Street
and anyway, I saw this these two young brothers, very
attractive young brothers. They were so clean cut, and this
person stopped them asking for ID. One of the young

(01:05:17):
brothers said, my daddy is a lawyer.

Speaker 7 (01:05:19):
I don't have to give you nothing.

Speaker 16 (01:05:20):
The woman, it was a black woman National Guard and
she started clowning them. I just walked over and I said,
young man, do me a favor.

Speaker 18 (01:05:27):
And you know they were well bred. They said yes, ma'am.
As to keep walking as it just keep walking. You
don't have to deal with her.

Speaker 16 (01:05:33):
And she told me, well, can you give me your ID?
I bust out. I'm like, fool, have you lost what
a little piece of mind you used to have? What
are you doing here?

Speaker 18 (01:05:42):
You can't arrest anybody harassing people up and down Fourteenth Street.
That going restaurant, restaurant Roland up in a Shepherd Park
restaurant to restaurant and Adams Morgan asking people if any
of their employees are undocumented.

Speaker 16 (01:05:57):
This is we I live at a police state. We
live in a police state.

Speaker 18 (01:06:01):
And the fact that the band is selling wolf tickets
that he cannot cash, he cannot get any governor of
a Blues sake, Kathy Hotchell Pritzker. These people are not
going to call their National Guard out for this nonsense.

Speaker 16 (01:06:14):
Plus crime in DC is down.

Speaker 18 (01:06:17):
But what he's doing is imposing a climate of fear,
a climate of intimidation, so that some of our it's
not even a documented people, some people who are documented
but also Latino are afraid that on certain days they've
been standing outside churches and schools.

Speaker 16 (01:06:35):
It is total intimidation.

Speaker 18 (01:06:37):
We in the African American community, we have to stand
up against it.

Speaker 16 (01:06:41):
I mean we're standing up.

Speaker 18 (01:06:42):
You have the best in terms of voting on just
a go Latasha and Cliffs, but we have to You
know what did James Barb say, Well, they could come.

Speaker 16 (01:06:51):
Somebody will say it. If they come for me in
the morning, they come for you tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
And guess what I'm trying to blake, I'm trying to
fit the people is going to happen to us. I'm
trying to figure out where all these FBA Negro where
all these foundational Black Americans they love. They would tweet
me all the time and they were like, oh yeah
they this ain't gonna impact us. They're coming for us.
Where all the NBA? What a what an FBA B

(01:07:16):
one eight us folks. Boy, it's amazing how quiet they're
all my time. It's amazing how quiet they are on
my timeline. All right, let me go to a break.
We're gonna come back. We're gonna deal with uh this
state representative who is getting the people are coming after
him for saying he did something he didn't do. We're
gonna talk to him next. Also, if we're gonna show

(01:07:37):
y'all how Trump is a liar. They are criticizing the
Smithsonian's Beatino Museum was saying that the Texas Revolution was
about slavery. It was, But they're idiots in the White House.

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But how do we get here?

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Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
How you doing? My man of luck Errent and you're
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(01:09:32):
Hennicus state lawmaker Corey Paris has received hate field threats
into being false accused of doc seeing sensitive information about
US Immigration and custom enforcement agents. According to Paris, the
controversy began when he posted a message on Instagram informing
his followers that he had learned of immigration enforcement efforts
in his district and wanted to warn residents to quote

(01:09:53):
remain vigilant. Shortly after that, as far right activist Shia Rachel,
known as Libs of TikTok, they've been targeting lots of
people tagged ICE's official account and urge the agency to
quote charge him. The following day, ICE officials re shared
the post and tagged the Department of Justice's account core Parents.

(01:10:14):
George's right now, glad to have you here represent the parents.
So they claim and see lives of TikTok is known
to lie. They're known to lie. Okay, so they claim
you posted sensitive information as if you posted somebody's name,
home address, who their husband and wife is, and where
they kids go to school.

Speaker 7 (01:10:36):
That's right, and Roland, thank you for having me.

Speaker 26 (01:10:38):
And as my grandmother often said growing up, there's a
dead cat on the line and the son of a
biscuit is stinking, and that's exactly what's happening right now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
So all you said was stay vigilant. That was the post.

Speaker 5 (01:10:50):
That's right.

Speaker 26 (01:10:51):
And I want to be unequivocally clear that what I
shared was no different than many of my colleagues in
elected office.

Speaker 7 (01:10:57):
But they share every single day.

Speaker 26 (01:10:58):
And what they shared during this time as ICE was
coming into many of our communities, and it was simply
public information from government channels.

Speaker 7 (01:11:05):
It was not done to harm ice. It was done
to convey.

Speaker 26 (01:11:08):
Urgency to families who live in fear of this agency
and of this administration, so that they can make decisions
to protect themselves.

Speaker 7 (01:11:14):
And that is part of what it means to be
a representative. That's what I was elected to do.

Speaker 26 (01:11:18):
I do it for those who voted for me, for
those who didn't vote for me, for those who can't
vote for me, yet ensuring that people have the information
they need, even when it's uncomfortable, and.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Again I mean little. This is literal harassment courtesy of
lives of TikTok and so what have you had to
contind with and deal with?

Speaker 7 (01:11:37):
Yeah, it's been a rough couple of days.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
For sure.

Speaker 7 (01:11:40):
We certainly have been shaken, but we're not moved.

Speaker 26 (01:11:42):
So I have received nasty phone calls and threatening phone
calls from folks who have claimed to be former government
government agents, who have claimed that they know where my
family lives. They have also mentioned the states in which
they've lived, that they were coming for me. They've They've
shared racial epithets in their calls. I've had people say

(01:12:04):
that they want to.

Speaker 7 (01:12:04):
Execute me, that I should be hung and lynched.

Speaker 26 (01:12:08):
It goes on and on, and so this has started
a whole new thing because the many people who have
reached out have said that this has now been shared
over two million times, viewed over two million times by
people all across this country reshared and many Trump pro
Trump signals and pro Trump outlets, the same with pro

(01:12:29):
conservative outlets. They wrote about it for many days, and
the harassment and the threats just continue to come, and
it's unacceptable. Especially what's more unacceptable is that the Department
of Homeland Security and Department of Justice have actually pretty
much not doubled down from what they've said at the time.

Speaker 7 (01:12:46):
They acknowledge that they.

Speaker 26 (01:12:47):
Regularly amplify posts from groups outside of government, including groups
like Libs of TikTok, which reshared mine, and the Department
of Justice has said through the New York Times that
they will not tolerate action that disclose the location of
law enforcement, which again is not what I did.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
So and again the problem that we have now is
the thug in chief has thug agencies that are doing
his dirty work and they don't care about due process
at all or fact.

Speaker 7 (01:13:18):
That's right, You're absolutely right.

Speaker 26 (01:13:19):
And look, this moment is for everyone because people should remember,
whether you black, brown, white, Asian, whatever you are, you
have to remember that the Constitution guarantees us something. The
Fifth and fourteenth Amendments say that no person shall be
deprived of life, liberty, and property without due process of law.

Speaker 7 (01:13:38):
That language is deliberate.

Speaker 26 (01:13:40):
It says no citizen. I'm sorry, excuse me. It does
not say no citizen, it says no person. So due
process for US means fair treatment, it means notice, It
means a chance to defend yourself, and protections against fundamental
rights being stripped away without a compelling reason. And our
courts up to now have made it very clear that
those protections will will and have applied to everyone in

(01:14:01):
US jurisdiction, including non citizens. And that's the principle which
separates democracy from tyranny.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Absolutely. And so what security precautions have you taken? Have
you had to I mean, get folks outside of where
you live, where you work. I mean, so how you
protecting yourself?

Speaker 26 (01:14:20):
You know, I don't want to go into too much
detail about that, but I will tell you that protection
is a tip top priority for me and certainly my family.
But I'll also say it should be a top priority
for every elected official in this country. If you're just
simply doing your job, which you were elected to do,
for what you've taken an oath to do, it is
nearly unconscionable for us to believe that if you are

(01:14:41):
threatened that you don't have access to protection or security
for yourself and for your family, and that is just
a that's not a far crive from what we've just
seen happen in Minnesota a couple of weeks ago, and
what we might see in the future. Again, it's Corey
Paris today. It was a speaker of the House of
Minnesota a couple weeks ago. It could be any person tomorrow.
And that's why it's so important to raise the alarm

(01:15:03):
on what's happening right now in this country.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Absolutely where we're sit in Paris. Take care of yourself
and appreciate you coming on the show. Thanks a lot,
Thank you so much. All Right, folks, gotta go to
the break we come back. How stupid is Donald Trump
in the White House? Now? They're making up their own
history regarding the Texas Revolution when we all know it
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want to make, Okay, because you're grown. Don't go out
here and do something and then want to come back
and expect somebody else to clean it m for you.

Speaker 9 (01:16:30):
That's all this week on A Balanced Life with Doctor
Jackie here on black Star Network.

Speaker 21 (01:16:41):
Next on the Black Table with me Greg Carr, we
welcome the black Star Network's very own Roland Martin, who
joins us to talk about his new book White Fear,
how the briding of America is making white folks lose
their mind. The book explains so much about what we're
going through this country right now, and how as white

(01:17:02):
people head toward becoming a racial minority, it's going.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
To get well, let's just say even more interesting. We
are going to see more violence, We're going to see
more vitriol, because as each day passes, it is a
nail in that coffin.

Speaker 21 (01:17:23):
The one and only Roland Martin on the Next Black
Table right here on the Black Star.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Network this week on the Other Side of Change, three
hundred thousand black women being pushed out of the workforce.

Speaker 4 (01:17:36):

Speaker 22 (01:17:38):
Well, what happens when a bunch of black mothers use
their federal job.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Their kids are not being fed, their kids are not
being taken care of.

Speaker 22 (01:17:45):
But that trick goes down to the entire community structure
which may be built on the backs of black mothers
and black.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Women more broadly.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Tune in on the Other Side of Change only on
the Black Star Network.

Speaker 6 (01:17:59):
Russell Well Honorary litend at Gerald the United States Sorrow
retired and you're watching rurald Martin.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
I'm felzic fulktion Department of Education, Trump's part of Education.
It says George Based University in Virginia violates civil rights

(01:18:27):
laws by using race and other personal traits and hiring
and promotions fail. Investigation determined GMU gave preference to candidates
from unrepresentative groups, policies that, according to the department, unlawfully
discriminated based on race. University has ten days to accept
the resolution agreement. If approved, GMU will be required to
stop all race based hiring issuan apology, revises recruitment policies,

(01:18:48):
and provide annual civil rights training. Now, this is the
same university that the Trump folks want the black president
to resign. They've been putting pressure on him to do so.
And it's the latest attack again black people. See. I
keep trying to tell y'all what's going on. See, I
ain't making this stuff up. They are attacking everybody black.
They attacking a black woman on the Federal Reserve. They're

(01:19:11):
attacking him. Uh, they attacked This is what they do.
They constantly attacking New York State Attorney General Letitia James.
He's attacking DC mayor of Murroe Bowser. And so this
is an absolutely anti black, white nationalists, white supremacist, precipitist
administration period, not even a conversation. Now, you know they're

(01:19:32):
real mad about this one. Kill Marobrigo Garcia, you know,
the man all the black and for who would sit
down Salvador then came back. Then they indicted him, claiming
he was human trafficking in Tennessee. Then a federal judge
told him that's bullshit. Let him out of prison. But
guess what he was. He was released from federal custody
months after he was wrongfully deported to a prison in Salvador,

(01:19:53):
plus false accused of being a game meaner, and they
still run the around saying he's a gang member. US
Magistrate Judge Barbara Holmes, one of the of the Middle
District of Tennessee, or this release from a jail near Nashville.
He's now en route to reunite with his family in Maryland.
He has forty eight hours to arrive at his brother's
home in suburban Maryland, where he's permitted to live under
a set court and posed conditions. He's also required and

(01:20:14):
check in with immigration officials at the ICE Baltimore Feel Office.
Now you know that is absolutely driving them crazy, Michael,
because they're trying to make him the post a child
and we see the games that they're playing. There's nothing
these people say that I trust nothing. If Donald Trump says, wow,

(01:20:35):
it's a gorgeous day, blue skies, I'm gonna look up
and double and triple check because they are liars.

Speaker 8 (01:20:43):
Well yeah, there are liars, and this is pure evil
and this is an authoritarian power grab. So this is
good news here for kill mar Abreaco Garcia. We'll see
how all this plays out. But you know, all of
this is connected. And you know I've said before on

(01:21:05):
this show Roland that you know, white supremacy and racism,
it targets all black people, regardless of a place of origin,
the language you speak, or your religion. And also it
targets non white people. So just thinking because they're going
after Latinos, they're not coming after black people. Also, no,

(01:21:27):
they're attacking all of us at the same time. So
we really have to wake up and look at what's
going on. Because some of us think that because of
our proximity to white supremacy, it protects us from white supremacy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
No, it doesn't. They're coming for all of us.

Speaker 8 (01:21:41):
So when you go to the story about Texas and slavery,
then I'll comment on that hopefully as well.

Speaker 6 (01:21:48):
Matt, Well, you know, I think the last part of
what Michael said is what stood out to me most prominently,
which is, you know, there is a myth that your
to whiteness or power really power structures somehow insulates you
from being on the chopping block.

Speaker 7 (01:22:07):
And what you see is that the opposite is true.

Speaker 6 (01:22:10):
This woman Ms Cook, who's the first black woman ever
on the Federal Reserve. I mean, you have to be
eminently qualified to be on the Federal Reserve board.

Speaker 7 (01:22:18):
You know that, right, But what you do is.

Speaker 6 (01:22:20):
When you want to attack black people, you make any
conversation about a black person who doesn't fit your ideological
stance one of meritocracy always right, Like this brother, doctor Washington,
that George Mason is eminently qualified.

Speaker 7 (01:22:36):
I was reading in his background.

Speaker 6 (01:22:37):
He's got three degrees in mechanical engineering, right, former dean
and mechanical engineering at Ohio State.

Speaker 7 (01:22:42):
I mean, this brother is eminently qualified.

Speaker 6 (01:22:45):
But the moment you see a black person in power,
I mean, if you have a fundamental belief that black
people should not be in power, then you automatically equate.

Speaker 7 (01:22:53):
That with them not having the merit to be where
they are.

Speaker 6 (01:22:56):
And that is what is so problematic about this administration
is because there are not any value judgments of people
based on what they're actually doing. It's purely based on
how they look and your fundamental belief that they should
not be where they are.

Speaker 7 (01:23:09):
And you know, I think Michael's right.

Speaker 6 (01:23:11):
I think not only are they coming for our Latino
brothers and sisters, they're coming for us and they're not
hiding that fact. And it does not matter what kind
of education you have, what kind of bona fides you've
had in your career, if you are black, you do
not deserve to be their period in their eyes, and
you were there therefore always be a target of attack.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
And right because for them, at the end of the day, Julian,
they only think white people, especially white men, are qualified
and mean, hell they these you know how dumb ass
these people are. These people are mad. They mad at
Cracker Barrel that they literally are they Again, I don't

(01:23:54):
understand why somebody, somebody I saw a posts somebody said
the crack of that mad at Cracker Barrel. I cracked
him laughing. But they literally are mad that Cracker Barrel
changed their logo and said cracker Barrel with woke, like,
what the hell, honey, I mean these julye are some
of the And then Barras still cracking. And then then

(01:24:16):
then Bira Donald's dumb ass time boy how he got
Oh my goodness, he upset because he got saved. Because
he got saved. Uh, he declared Jesus, Lord CHRISTI and
save you in a cracker barrel parking in a parking lot. Really, Roland, please,
I'm serious, brother, They're crazy. This is they mad at

(01:24:40):
Cracker Bear. Then they mad, they all up Julie all Julian.
They so mad. They mad at cracker Barrel. So now
when you walk in the cracker Barrel, you ain't walk
into the damn country ass store. You walking to the restaurant.
They mad all that country. I'm like, well, y'all, y'all

(01:25:01):
some ignorant people causing the stock price to go down.
They these people are insane. Go ahead.

Speaker 18 (01:25:08):
They have allowed their racism, they have allowed their racism
to drive them insane. I mean the examples you're given,
the one that I want to just pick up on
because doctor Lisa Cook, a fellow black woman economist, impeccable credentials.
You know, this man, some lil sevity goes out the window.

(01:25:28):
He doesn't know how to say anything that makes sense.
He reduces himself. But he's already reduced to calling.

Speaker 16 (01:25:36):
People out of their name, calling them red. You know
he did that with Kamala. He got all these.

Speaker 18 (01:25:42):
Names for her, has these names for people. But doctor
Cook is doing a good job. The only problem he
has with doctor Lisa Cook is that if she reason,
he has a vacancy on the FED, and he can
basically change the tone and tenor of what happens interest rates.
The members of the FED, the seven men members of
the FED essentially choose the heads of the regional the

(01:26:04):
twelve regional FED members, and the five of those actually
are having input into interest rates. So he's basically to
take over the economy. But you know, when he was elected,
he said he was going to manage the economy. How's
that turning out for us? Frankly, the tariffs are going
to increase and floating. You already see people talking about that.

(01:26:25):
The unemployment is steady, but that's steady but drifting downward,
and all these American women must their jobs. In fact,
African American women are the only group that had their
labor force participation rate drop, the only group had a
significant drop in labor force participation. Now some of the
other groups might have point one point two, but basically

(01:26:47):
we have a ten percent of one percent, which I
tend to drop in labor force participation. They have allowed
their racism to drive them nuts and we see it
every day. I don't even know why they let this
man go to a microphone. And by the way, you know,
you don't have to be white adjacent as some black
people think they're You could be playing all white like

(01:27:08):
John Bolton.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
This man.

Speaker 16 (01:27:14):
We really are moving.

Speaker 18 (01:27:15):
Yeah, crazy plagarky where you said the man was stupid
but CNN and the next thing you'll know, your house
is raided, your officers, you're not even there, your wife.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
Listen, listen, listen. We know how any of these people are. Y'all.
This I gotta I gotta stay on the Cracker Barrel think, y'all.
This is what Byron Donald's tweeted. In college, I worked
at Cracker Barrel in Tallahassee. I even gave my life
to Christ in their parking lot. Their logo was iconic,
and their unique restaurants were a fixture of American culture.

(01:27:47):
No one asked for this woke rebranding. It's time to
make Cracker Barrel great again, y'all. This is literally the logo, y'all.
This is the old ass Cracker Barrel logo of an
old white man leaning against the barrel in a chair,
and it says old country store these This is what

(01:28:10):
they mad at, y'all. I'm like, y'all, ain't y'all ain't
got that. Y'all got that much time on y'all hands. Now,
y'all know, as a matter of fact, the AI people
are so quick. Look at this here. Oh, it gets better,

(01:28:33):
It gets better because you know, you know, somebody had
to go ahead and just turn just turn the audio up. Uh.
Well they dropped this us an AI.

Speaker 15 (01:28:49):
A servant, little biscuits, greazing on the side, wopping down tables.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
Just trying to survive.

Speaker 15 (01:28:57):
When the preacher came in order and fry you lift
need a pamphlet, said son, don't you hide. I clumped
out early, had something to think, took my sweet tea outside.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
Leaning on the scene, I found God and a cracker barrel,
will park.

Speaker 15 (01:29:15):
In a lot, a lot of dumpsters and a spell
tare tales.

Speaker 7 (01:29:20):
He said, son, you mad lost stretching now full God.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
I found God in a cracker barrel parky lot.

Speaker 7 (01:29:33):
Meal lots flickered on that old country stood.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
I mean, man, these people are ignorant. Man like they
they they are, These these ignorant Mago fools are just
mad upset. But here's when somebody said he's the real deal.
They're mad because Cracker Bear has a a white female
CEO and for them every they just put y'ah, they've

(01:30:00):
got the cracker barrel logo underwoke.

Speaker 6 (01:30:06):
Well, first off, I gotta say shout out to at
Ace Vane on Instagram. I actually just texted it to you, Rowland.
He did a thing with the cracker barrel logo. That's
one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time.

Speaker 7 (01:30:17):
So you got to see that. But I mean, I
think you're right.

Speaker 6 (01:30:19):
And that's the interesting thing you bring up because when
we talk about DEI, how many times have you said
on this show, who is the biggest recipient of DEI policies?

Speaker 7 (01:30:27):
It's white women, It is not black people.

Speaker 6 (01:30:30):
So the idea that people are angry about about This
is really an extension of what you've seen them be
angry about other things in this loss of Americana and
really this loss of whiteness.

Speaker 7 (01:30:40):
I give you an example. There's the local sheriff in
the county I live in all the time, always says,
we want to return our community to safety. We want
to go back to Mayberry.

Speaker 6 (01:30:49):
And every time he says that, I'm like, does he
not realize that there were no black people in Mayberry?
You are telling me how you feel about us without
saying it, And that's what we're seeing.

Speaker 11 (01:30:58):
That's what this is.

Speaker 6 (01:30:58):
People are mad about anything that they think is woke
or woke adjacent, and this is the most asinine thing
to be mad about. If you like Cracker Burros food,
go eat their food. But who cares about the logo.
This is more an extension of they think their America
is being taken, and that's what we're seeing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
It's all it's all white supremacy, white nationalism, and they
just telling on themselves.

Speaker 8 (01:31:21):
Michael, Well, absolutely, you know, to say ignorant, what'd you say, ignorant?

Speaker 5 (01:31:28):
Maga foods?

Speaker 8 (01:31:29):
That's redundant, Okay, because that's a redundant statement right there.
But yeah, Maga is ignorant. It's a cult, okay. And
when you listen to these people, they don't make any sense.
But it's like they live in an alternate universe.

Speaker 5 (01:31:47):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (01:31:48):
And you know, white supremacy is a powerful drug. And
what it does is it causes them to vote for
people who are really again it's their own interests. When
we talk about rule America. They're gonna be devastated by
the big ass ugly bill.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
No, no, no, Michael, no, Michael, that stuff means nothing.
They're gonna be devastated because the cracker barrel logo has changed. Well,
look they like they like what see They walk around like,
damn it, what happened to my cracker? Where did my
cracker go? Why did my cracker in the chair in

(01:32:31):
the barrel? Why they left?

Speaker 7 (01:32:35):
Look?

Speaker 5 (01:32:36):
Look, look people, look people, it's the it's the same fool.
It's the same food. It's the same food.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Okay, So but no, no, Michael, it ain't the same Michael.
They got rid of my cracker. Okay, they got rid
of my cracker, and so go ahead, fishing point.

Speaker 8 (01:32:54):
Yeah, Well, these are the type of culture wars that
they get distract it with while their healthcare is being cut,
while their hospitals are being shut down, while the cost
of their food that they already can't afford is going up,
they get distracted with these culture wars.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
And this is how this ain't even a culture war.
It's a fucking cracker barrel logo.

Speaker 8 (01:33:22):
No, but it's part of the white supreme mistig Wait
a minute, it ain't Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
They took the white they took They took the white
man leaning on. They took the white man leaning on
a barrel. Ain't like they put they like they put
a black woman in some cowboy boots.

Speaker 8 (01:33:39):
But but but the erasure of white, the white man
in their mind is the white replacement theory.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
Okay, riling, these are some crazy as I already know
that dog hold up so so mad about they went woke.

Speaker 27 (01:33:53):
That's an attack on DEI so all that kicks in. Yeah,
I'm got supremus, I know, I know, and they and
they all crackheads. Madison MADDI sent me Ace Van what
y'all soo hit? Now the cracker here so here were
gonna be set it up. The cracker barrel logo speaks.

Speaker 19 (01:34:15):
Hello, I'm the Cracker from Cracker Barrel, and y'all know
I set on that damn logo for forty eight damn years,
longer than the snake deep throwing the giraffe neck. Then
overnight you got this diverse, evil, ignorant or dei group
of people taking over our marketing talking about we need
a rebrand. Then poof, I'm going faster than a black

(01:34:39):
man driving through Alabama. How you gonna rebrand without dbrand?
I'm the goddamn reason people come to Cracker Barrel. How
you gonna have a player called Cracker Barrel without a
cracker leaning on a barrel? I mean, what's the next America?
A black female pipe eye's manager that doesn't fight her customers.
Cracker Barrel needs a cracker and a barrel, and I'm

(01:35:03):
the coldest cracker some of a bitch ever lean on
a barrel this side of a Mississippi hell, maybe both sides.

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
But don't you go.

Speaker 19 (01:35:11):
Worry about your old boy Cracker. I got a little
nest egg and I'll find something to lean on.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
I always have. But it's a damn shame with y'all.
Don't let happen to old Barrel. The hell I heard
him to hire me, Bro. Nobody nobody hiring barrels.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
I'm not as well.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
Just jump in the fireplace, Bro again when tip Jesus

(01:35:51):
oh as bang that matter of fact, all of them.
I ain't realize that. I didn't know. I never heard
of A's bang And I just pulled it and I
realized he followed me. He follows me. Ace Bana earned
himself a follow I'm not following him. That was funny
as hell. Matt.

Speaker 7 (01:36:12):
Yeah, I died yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
I saw it.

Speaker 7 (01:36:14):
I didn't even know, I knew nothing about it, and
then I saw the video and I just lost it.
But I love all his stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:36:19):
He's he's hilarious, and I just thought that was a
funny take in Jermaine to what we're talking about now.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
That is absolutely I'm telling you, it is beyond hilarious.
And these people are just beside me. They are literally
losing their mind, Julia. They are just they got mad
as hell about Crack a Barrel changing the logo.

Speaker 16 (01:36:43):
You know, that is hilarious.

Speaker 18 (01:36:45):
Whoever the brother sent it out right out on to him.
I mean, I'm sitting here almost falling off my chair
because it was hilarious.

Speaker 16 (01:36:53):
But at the same time, it does illustrate not only.

Speaker 18 (01:36:55):
As I said, these people's racism has caused them to
lose their minds, their whole minds. The other piece of
it is the distraction. But Michael's hut earlier, the distractionary tactics.

Speaker 16 (01:37:05):
So they're on cracker barrel. They ain't got no money.

Speaker 18 (01:37:08):
Excuse myighty bonox, but they ain't got no money. But
they're worried about a logo, a cracker at a barrel,
just like this man. He's afraid that will learn something
about his hygiens with Jeffrey Epstain. So he's going after
our museum. And you know, they major in the minor
because the major will convict them. They major in the miner.
They look at this little the Latino Museum.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
Who in the what.

Speaker 18 (01:37:32):
President has ever had that kind of involvement in the
weeds of a museum. I mean, we fought hard to
get that music that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
I'm a hold up, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all gotta stop
trying to get ahead of stuff. I'm gonna get to
that in a second, but I need got to stay
focused on crackers and cracker barrel, Okay, I need to
trying to focus. Uh, somebody you want to be crack.
Somebody posted this tweet. I think this Hilaria has said
white replacement theory. Mac. They took the cracker out of
Cracker Barrel. Uh, that's the funny true. And and again

(01:38:04):
that they are mad because this is this is the
woman who's the ceo.

Speaker 15 (01:38:09):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
And because Cracker Bear supports l G B t Q
some allions this woke ceo Cracker Barrel changed his logo
after four to seven years. Well damned, ain't that a shame? Hell,
guess what. I guess they're gonna get mad because Snapple change.
They damn bottles. Oh lord, what the hell we gonna do?
And my good like, this ain't light Coke changing to

(01:38:33):
New Coke. This ain't even it's a logo, y'all. They
some iggerass people. Let me, let me, let me go.
I'm telling you, I can't listen these They just ignorant.
You know, when Marjorie Taylor Green says we need our
own country, you know what this is. I endorse that
please ship ship all them dumbasses somewhere else. Well, you

(01:38:56):
know what they always talking about, go back to Africa.
Take y'all lass back to Europe. Please damn let me
go to a break. We come back, y'all. I got
to talk about these dumb ass White House people who
don't know nothing about history. They ain't read nothing, don't
know nothing. They stuck on stupid. Wait to show y'all
what these fools actually posted on the official White House website.

(01:39:18):
If anybody out there, if y'all voted for this food,
y'all got to own this. And if you black your ass,
hey never get invited to the cookout. I don't care
what you do. I don't care if you win a
billion dollars and give it all the HBCUs. If you

(01:39:39):
were as stupid to vote for this dumb ass, you
are really a fool. And if you black walk around
with a Maga hat, you probably eat that cracker barrel.
I'll be back.

Speaker 16 (01:39:56):
The next get wealthy would be Deborah Owens.

Speaker 14 (01:39:59):
America's black Americans have one tenth the wealth of their
white counterparts.

Speaker 16 (01:40:06):
But how did we get here? It's a huge gap.

Speaker 14 (01:40:09):
Well, that's why we need to know the history and
what we need to do to turn our.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
Income into wealth.

Speaker 14 (01:40:16):
Financial author and journalist Rodney Brooks joins us to tell
us exactly what we need to do to achieve financial success.

Speaker 17 (01:40:24):
You can't talk about why we are as black people
where we are unless you talk.

Speaker 14 (01:40:29):
About how we got here, bridging the gap and getting wealthy.
Only on Black Star Network.

Speaker 3 (01:40:41):
This week, on the Other Side of Change, three hundred
thousand Black women being pushed out of the workforce.

Speaker 4 (01:40:46):

Speaker 22 (01:40:48):
But what happens when a bunch of black mothers use
their federal job.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
Their kids are not being fed, their kids are not
being taken care of.

Speaker 22 (01:40:55):
But that trick goes down to the entire community structure,
which may be built on the back black mothers and
black women wore broadly.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
Tune in on the Other Side of Change, only on
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Speaker 16 (01:41:08):
This is Samplo Man, and this.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
Is David Mann, and you're watching roland Mark Until.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
After just two years, Howard University looking for a new president.
Ben Vincenti, who joined August of twenty twenty three, is
stepping down at the end of the month. His departure
comes just days into the new academic year. The board
appointed Wayne AI Frederick, the former Howard University president and graduate,
to be the interim president now of course, he retired

(01:41:56):
in twenty twenty two. Vince's last day will be August
thirty first, with Frederick assuming the role the following day.
During his tenure, Howard continued to attract high profile scholars. However,
this summer, the university faced controversy when a new payment
system era caused massive problems with students, caused them to
be mistacondly mark delinquid on their tuition bills, prompting threats

(01:42:17):
of collections. In response, some Howard students organized protests and
parents were pissed off as well because of all of
the drama. Folks. Speaking of drama, we got to deal
with these dumbasses in the White House. Now, Trump at
somehow thinks that he could run the Candidate Center. These
thinks that he's the damn curator of the Smithsonian. Hell,

(01:42:40):
he actually said this here, y'all, that he was the
chief law enforcement officer of the country. Now, earlier, one
of our parents mentioned John Bolton getting in his house
his home. Rated y'all pull a clip up where Trump
is standing before the people, and he tried to say
he ain't know about it. But then again he says
he the nation's top cop. Neil Briffman probably today.

Speaker 25 (01:43:03):
Sometime I don't want I tell them, and I tell
the group I don't want to know about just you
have to do what you have to do.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
I don't want to know about it. It's not necessary.
I could know about it.

Speaker 25 (01:43:12):
I could be the one starting, and I'm actually the
chief law enforcement officer, but I feel that it's better
this way.

Speaker 1 (01:43:21):
That dumb ass and no chief law enforcement officer. Pull
a video back up and freeze it. Y'all see that
stupid ass hat he got on Trump was right about everything.
His dumb ass is wrong about nearly every yo. This
is what they got on the White House website. Now
they've been attacking the Smithsonian saying, oh, they have these

(01:43:42):
wrong exhibits. President Trump is right about the Smithsonian. So
you go through this article and it says the National
Museum of African American History and Culture debuting series to
educate people quote on a society that privileges white people
in whiteness, defining so called white dominant culture as ways

(01:44:02):
white people and the traditions, attitudes, and ways of life
have been normalized over time, and portraying the nuclear family, work, ethic,
and intellect as white qualities rooted in racism, all true,
and so then, uh so, then they're attacking Liliz. Here
the campaign featured content from a hardcore woke activist Ebrahm
x Kendy. Okay, so check this out. Okay, So they

(01:44:24):
got other complaints National Portrait Gallery. But this is the
one that's that jump that is here the National Museum
and African Art display in exhibit on works of spectative
fiction that bring to life and immersive feminists in sacred
Aquatopia inspired by the legend of Drexia and underwater kingdom
populated by the children and pregnant women who've been thrown

(01:44:44):
overboard or jumped into the ocean during the Middle Passage.
I'm sorry, y'all mad at this slaverything again, all right,
So y'all check this out. So they criticize the American
History Museums LBG LGBTQ History exhibit then now, then then
they criticize the National Museum of American Latino as well.
But this is the one that I want to talk about, y'all.

(01:45:06):
It says the National Museum of the American Latino characterizes
the Texas Revolution as a massive defense of slavery waged
by white Anglo Saxon settlers against an anti slavery Mexicans
fighting for freedom, not a Texan war of independence from Mexico,

(01:45:27):
and frames the Mexican American War as the North American
invasion that was unprovoked and motivated a byt pro slavery politicians.
That's true, y'all. When we talk about his story in history,

(01:45:50):
his story means white man's his story. See, I'm born
and raised in Houston, and every student in Texas in
the seventh grade it's required to learn Texas history. Now,
y'all understand the book is about that thick I'm not

(01:46:12):
lying by that. So growing up, remember the Remember the
Labo he's always talked about, and Davy Crockett and the others.
They were portrayed as these righteous men who were fighting

(01:46:32):
those Mexican savages, and these righteous men were standing up
on behalf of Texas. And then we had the Great
Sam Houston and the Great Stephen F. Austin and Mylam
and all of these characters, and how they were just
these fine, upstanding men who wanted to free Texas from

(01:46:57):
the shackles of the decredit and the evil and the
savage Mexicans. Said they left out a couple of days.
Remember when I called out the History Channel that bullshit
docuseries where they talked about Texas independence and all the

(01:47:19):
kept saying Texas independence, fighting for Texas independence. Well, see,
if you don't say you're fighting for Texas independence, well
you need to say you're fighting to be independent of what.
And the fact is the Texas Revolution was trying for

(01:47:41):
the white Anglo Saxons to steal Texas from Mexico. The
white Anglo.

Speaker 27 (01:47:48):
Saxons in Texas, Steven f.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
Austin, Sam Houston, David Prockett, others, they wanted to be
free for Mexico. Why because Mexico our lawed slavery. If
you read and we got the interview of the great
historian Gerald Horn his book on this very issue. In

(01:48:13):
his book, he talks about how people of African descent
who were enslaved were literally escaping across the border. Thousands
were escaping to Mexico because they were free. It got
to the point where these white Anglo Saxons were literally
crossing state lines to capture them Mexico and drag them back.

(01:48:36):
So it is a fundamental fact that the Texas Revolution,
the fight for Texas independence was over slavery period, That's
what it was.

Speaker 7 (01:48:50):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
So what these white supremacists in the White House, they
are not a set because the truth is acci bento.
That's they mad about. They mad and the truth is
actually being told because see what they want is they
want to continue's a fictionalized version of Texas independence. Oh

(01:49:15):
my god, this is Texas independence. We can't we like like,
we can't, actually we can't actually tell people.

Speaker 28 (01:49:25):
Really what Texas independence is actually about, because if we
do that, then, oh my god, people are gonna actually
know what they were fighting against.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
I need something on this. And I said this, you
know Texas former Texas Governor Rick Abbott, I mean Rick Perry.
He decided to create a trophy, a trophy for the
winner of the tech A and M University of South
Carolina game. And so he was trying to figure out,

(01:50:05):
we need a trophy. Let's get a trophy. So what
can we do if we create this trophy. So he
was like, hey, let's create the bottom trophy. Oh my god,
it's the bottom trophy. So if we create the bottom trophy,

(01:50:28):
then that'll be the thing that we can award to
the winner. And so they decided to say, yeah, we
need the Bottom Trophy. That's what we need. And so
y'all this give me one second. So this here is
a photo of the Bottom Trophy. And so this is

(01:50:49):
the trophy that the winner of the annual Texas A
and M South Carolina Game receives. Oo ooh, that's a great.
Look at this. Here, we got this, We got this man.
He's on a horse and he's holding a gun and
and oh my goodness, and he's he's he's holding it up.

(01:51:11):
The only problem is who's bottom? Who's bottom? This is
a port illustrated story.

Speaker 11 (01:51:28):
And huh.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
The Bottom Trophy's named and modeled after Alamo Battle hero
James Bonham. It was commission in twenty thirteen by former
Texas Governor Rick Perry and being South Carolina govern NICKI Haley.
So Nicky Haley and Rick Perry commissioned a Confederate statue

(01:51:53):
because the Alamo was a battle with the Mexican Army
Santa Anna because of slavery. Now, y'all see what these
white supremacist are trying to do. They are angry Trump
and Matt They hate history because they believe in his story.

(01:52:19):
And that is a fundamental problem. And what they are
going to try to do, Michael, is they are going
to spend the next three and a half years desperately
trying to rewrite history. We're going to see a farce
of history. Next year when the United States celebrates his
two and fiftieth anniversary, they are going to be promoting lies.

(01:52:44):
I'm not calling them falsehoods or mischaracterizations. I'm calling them lies.
And them attacking this premise right here shows you how
much of a liar Donald Trump and these idiots in
his administration really are. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:53:04):
Absolutely, Roland. And this is and just so people understand
the connect the dots. This is a continuation of what
Trump did in the first administration, except it's getting it's
even worse now because remember in this first administration, he
attacked the sixteen nineteen project, he created the seventeen seventy
six project, he brought together those historians to create that.
And he also signed that memo that banned critical race

(01:53:26):
theory in training for federal employees. That was September twenty twenty.
That's what really kicked off that anti critical race theory movement.
But what you're saying is spot on, and I read
the piece from the Independent that talks about this Trump
advisor leading Smithsonian Review says DC museums place over emphasis

(01:53:48):
on slavery, and they talk about the Texas Revolution here
in this piece, and they cite the Texas His Store
Call Association, and they say that Texas His Store Called
Association considered slavery which formed a key part of the
then frontier territory's early economy quote and underlying cause of
the struggle end quote with Mexico, which was pushing in

(01:54:09):
a bottle of slavery at the time in the Mexico
actually a bottle of slavery in eighteen twenty nine. So
when they set up the when they set up the
Alamo and they set up that settlement, the US had
slaves in violation of Mexican law, and they were fighting
to preserve that.

Speaker 5 (01:54:28):
Now was lost on a lot of people because when.

Speaker 8 (01:54:31):
I was a little kid, you know, I saw the
movie That Alamo with John Wayne and you know, they
portrayed Davy Crockett and things like that, and Jim Bowie they.

Speaker 1 (01:54:39):
Really talk about that in that movie. Okay, No, they
were fighting to preserve slavery.

Speaker 8 (01:54:44):
So this is the nonsense, This is the White supremist
white nationalists, white Christian nationalism that they're pushing and they
attack history. Okay, they're attacking history at the same time
attacking voting rights because if we can if we can
limit your understanding of the past and restrict your ability
to vote in the present, that we can control the

(01:55:05):
laws and policies of the future.

Speaker 5 (01:55:07):
This is exactly what they're doing.

Speaker 8 (01:55:08):
This is why your show is so important to educate
the fight against this nonsense.

Speaker 1 (01:55:20):
I can't hear well, of course, Matt. What's what's hilarious
here is they're so angry at facts, They're so angry
at historical representations. Uh, and they want to lie and
again Texas Independence. That's why every year when Greg Abbot

(01:55:42):
and Dan Patrick is posting hey, Texas Independence Day, and
then I then I then post hey, it's happy we
love Slavery Day because that's what because guess what when
Texas got, when Texas gained is independence gets who stayed slaves,
not the white people.

Speaker 6 (01:56:05):
Hell yeah, and it's deeper than that. I mean, obviously,
you and I are both native Texans. We both took
that seventh grade history class. I think your you know,
your text for that class was on papyrus might not
have been bound. Mine was in a book, but that's
just because we're you know, different.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
No, actually, actually actually mine was. Actually mine was in
the book, but yours probably had more pictures, maybe because
because my class when I was going the seventh grade,
we can actually read. But go right ahead.

Speaker 7 (01:56:34):
I don't know. I don't know how long to make
a tablet with the hand.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
Yeah, go right ahead, nice, try, nice, try, go, mister pictorial.

Speaker 6 (01:56:43):
So I live about an hour from Goliad, right, and
I grew up in Austin, named after Stephen F. Austin,
down the road from San Antonio. Probably been to the
Alamo thirty times, you know, on field trips and all
that kind of stuff. And I think one of the
things that people need to realize is in Texas, mythology
is huge.

Speaker 7 (01:56:59):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:56:59):
So it's not only that this is not the true history,
but a core tenet of Texas culture is lionizing these
people and lying about what they did and the real
motivations of what they did. And one thing I wanted
to add to Michael's point that people don't realize is
Spain actually abolished slavery in Mexico, right, and then in
eighteen twenty nine, Like he said, Mexico w bbolished slavery,

(01:57:20):
but it actually separated Cohuela Etejas, which was what became
part of what became the state of Texas.

Speaker 7 (01:57:26):
And Stephen F.

Speaker 6 (01:57:27):
Austin and his compatriots thanked the Mexican Mexican president for
carving out for Texas its ability to maintain slavery.

Speaker 7 (01:57:36):
So that shows you that slavery was a fundamental issue.
And you know, it's exactly right.

Speaker 6 (01:57:41):
And I think what's interesting about that is in Texas,
it's not just about slavery where we're dishonest. I mean,
people don't realize that the Texas Rangers massacred Hispanic people
in the state of Texas, right, but we don't talk
about that. I mean, I know many Texas Rangers personally,
they are fine law enforcement officers. The ones I've all
worked with have been the kreme.

Speaker 16 (01:58:00):
Of the crop.

Speaker 7 (01:58:00):
But the point is that agency has a very sordid history.

Speaker 6 (01:58:04):
But we don't talk about that as Texans because that
does not fit the mythology that we want to have,
which is, you know, the lone Star State and the
frontier spirit and all of that. And really it was
about slavery, and I think you're exactly right to call
it out. It's so important to call it out, especially
because what we're seeing is people try to make tant
amount to their culture or their right to have, you know,

(01:58:28):
some connection to their history. This idea that the actual
history that's inimical to that is dishonest when we know
that the truth is slavery is the reason that they
wanted Texas independence, and slavery is the reason Texas was
the last bastion of the Confederacy because that's what they wanted.
They wanted slaves. But that doesn't fit into our mythology

(01:58:49):
here in the state of Texas, and that's why people
overlook it and you know us back to the same
conversation we were having earlier about the White House and
the truth about crime stats. It isn't about the truth.
It's about vibes. And the vibes come from telling white
people that their country is being stolen. So you don't
have the real conversations about what this country was then
and now and what has made it what it is now,

(01:59:09):
i e. Slavery and the attempt to keep it here
in the state of Texas.

Speaker 18 (01:59:18):
You know, Roland tomorrow, Congressman Al Greed, your Texas brother
is holding a celebration National Enslavement. He called Slavery Remembrance Day.
He introduced legislation, and in twenty twenty two President Biden
actually recognized the day. Of course, the legislation has never passed,

(01:59:38):
and it won't pass now.

Speaker 16 (01:59:39):
Given the current White House.

Speaker 18 (01:59:41):
But I'll be speaking tomorrow and I will begin with
the event is being held at the US Capitol. The
beginning by talk is there were no US capital were
enslave people. Not only will there be no capital, there
will be no cotton, no rice, no bond market. But see,
this is to pick back of what brother man just said.

(02:00:01):
It's an inconvenient truth for folks to acknowledge the fund
the foundational contribution that enslaved people have made to this country.
They want to paint us as dependence, but actually we're philanthropists.
We have given more to this country than we would
ever get. And so from that perspective, we have to
call the lives again and again and again. Well, this

(02:00:24):
country would be half a country because some Europeans would
have come over from the other side to the western
part of the country, or the Spanish would have come
through California and conquered, so we're not for Enslavid, there
would be no United States of America. And that's what
makes the likes like the man who lives in the
house that is slave people bien. That's what makes the

(02:00:46):
likes of him squirm. That's what makes him become so
petty to try to go through museums. I guess he
doesn't have excuse by language, but shit else to do.
He's supposed to be running the economy. He's supposed to
be dealing bation, but what he's actually doing is attacking
black people, attacking history, attacking the truth that they cannot

(02:01:09):
stay of the truth. When you confront them with the
truth and topple those putrid statues, they start complaining make
America great again. I went on the White House dot
gov website. I couldn't get it all the way up
Zach and Jenkie today, but I went on there when
you mentioned that letter that he has up there, and
it's not about welcome to greatness.

Speaker 16 (02:01:29):
What is the greatness when you have.

Speaker 18 (02:01:31):
People rolling the streets under the guise of law stopping people.
Think you said you were going to fix the economy.
He has messed up the DC economy because first of all,
you got the exodus of federal workers. That exodus, the
firing of so many federal workers, and now you have
overrunning the place and basic many of our rest fronts, clubs,

(02:01:54):
et cetera.

Speaker 16 (02:01:55):
Are closing. If they're not closing Saturday night, Fourteenth Street,
the young lady told me. She said her favorite place
closed at ten pm.

Speaker 18 (02:02:03):
Usually it's open. Usually they begged to keep it open
after two am. Close at ten pm because nobody was there.

Speaker 16 (02:02:10):
This is what this man is done.

Speaker 18 (02:02:11):
He's attempted to destroy America. If I didn't know any better,
I would think that he was well, he is Putent's
best friend, but I would think that he came here
essentially as a president to destroy this country. But let
me say one quick thing, lasts, it's not just about him.
This man has gone bankrupt. I don't know how many times.
Who was behind him? Who props him up? These are

(02:02:32):
the oligarchs who don't want to necessarily make America white again,
because if America were white again, they couldn't survive.

Speaker 16 (02:02:39):
So white women didn't even know how to feed that
no no, no, no no no showed them how to
no no, no.

Speaker 1 (02:02:44):
No, they want to. They want to. They want to
make America white lead again. See they don't. They don't
want they don't want in white men. Let's be real clear.
They don't want black people or Tinos, Asian America and
the Americas. But they don't even want white women. It's
real clear. Their agenda is. It's real clear. And listen,

(02:03:04):
national media, shame on them for Peterheadseth retweeting his misogynistic
pastor at video where that pastor said he didn't want
women to voting, and national media is all silent. All right, y'all,
that is it for us. I appreciate y'all be on
the show today. Let me thank Julian, let me thank

(02:03:26):
Michael and Matt. You can get back to your pictorial
Texas history book, all right. Oh hell yeah, it was
coming absolutely And when Michael mentioned John Wayne in the
movie to Alamo, that was perfect casting. But because John
Wayne was an absolute racist and white supremacist, absolute racist
who did not believe that black people were prepared to

(02:03:47):
have jobs after the Civil Rights movement, y'all google that shit.
He was a racist and that's why I'm always call
his punk ass out. Oh y'all. That's it for us.
Before we go, shout out my man Uh let me here,
y'all turn the audio up. My man Kim has a
new single out today. I told him I'm gonna give

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him a shout out.

Speaker 15 (02:04:09):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
Come on, turn it allio up, Come on audio guys,
let's hear it. So Kim's has. Kim has a new
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his new song. So always showing us his love to

(02:04:32):
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independent again and he is has his own record label,
Chemistry Records, no longer with Motown. So always got to
show her love to my man Kim uh as well.
And again shout out to my parents and my sister

(02:04:53):
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and my sister Kenya, she passed away on this day
a year ago. We were the Democrat National Convention when
I got the call of her passing. And so certainly
our love thoughts and prayers, not my parents, siblings, but
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