Black Women’s Jobless Spike, Maternal Health Crisis, Crockett Slams Trump’s Power Grab

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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Today is Thursday.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I remember twenty twenty twenty five coming up on roller
Bart Unfiltered streaming live of the Black Star Network. Labor
Department just released the delayed September jobs report, which shows
blackamous unemployment skyrocketing to the highest is twenty twenty one.
We'll talk about that with the economists and Morgan Harborough.
Also Republican's investigation exposing multiple women who died at being

(00:44):
denied abortions even with a serious health risk. We'll talk
to one of the reporters of work on their store
on Black maternal health. In today's Crockett Chronicles, Congom and
Jasmin Crockett calls out Donald Trump's administrations using federal power
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Speaker 3 (01:39):
Let's go whatever. Best believe he's going.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Politics, just on.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
It. He's she's built up.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Question, No, he's bold.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I remember a whole lot of quite loud and arrogant
black folks. And how amazing don't Trump is going to
be for the economy? All they had lots to say
until the actual facts come out.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
What do we see? This economy that he owns is
in major trouble. That's right.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
The delay September jobs report. Now, first of all, the
White House is touting, oh my god, look at this
one hundred and nineteen thousand jobs added. Look at this growth,
really a significant increase between two thousand in August, but
the overall unemployment rate went up the four point four
percent Black workers. The unemployment rate remains unchanged at seven

(03:23):
point five percent Black men drop several points to six
point six for black women increased the seven point five percent,
the highest sins twententy and twenty one. The late jobs
report reveals a concerning trend highlighting and that black women
are facing the most significant challenges in this economy. And
Morgan Harper's the director of policy and advocacy the American
Economic Liberties Projects. You just right now, Morgan. The White

(03:45):
House is doing all they can to spend spin spin,
but even Fox News is like, yeah, this sucks.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
Yeah, you know, the September number was higher than expected,
like you said, Roland, but there were these downward adjustments
that were made, and so actually overall there's about nine
hundred thousand fewer jobs created throughout the year than was
previously expected. So the average monthly is just a few

(04:14):
tens of thousands of jobs, much lower than what we
were seeing even a year ago. And I do think
it's important, yeah, to go a little bit deeper here.
I mean, we're seeing the uptick in black women unemployment.
We've talked about that a little bit before. Not a
surprise given some of the cuts that have been happening
in the federal sector, where a lot of us have

(04:35):
been employed and had stable jobs. And then when we
look at the industries where the job growth is being
driven right now, it is in leisure restaurants, bars, and healthcare,
and so we have to also think about the quality
of those jobs.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
If we were talking about.

Speaker 6 (04:55):
Restaurants and bars, then not necessarily getting the guaranteed sal
not coming with the benefits, and that can lead to
other effects in things like consumer spending. Another thing that
I thought was interesting was the number of people that
have college degrees that are also looking We're starting to
see an uptick there and people that have college degrees

(05:18):
that are not able to find jobs, including some young people.
When we look at some of the sectors that are
having layoffs, including the technology sector, that's likely to impact
some folks in that category. And then also, you know,
we're talking about the tech sector and some of the
areas where we're seeing job loss, it is in transportation
warehouses where a lot those have also been driving a

(05:41):
lot of the job growth more recently. But overall, you're
exactly right that the promise of this administration from campaign
to inauguration and on has been that they're bringing back
the manufacturing sector. And this is another month where we've
seen an ongoing loss in manufacturing jobs.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
And again that they have all they claim all these
amazing things gonna happen, and it's not happening.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
And I don't know if you saw last.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Night show I got I got a kick out of
whiney Ass launch by Jones when Fox News going, I mean,
you know, it's only been nine months. I mean, I
don't know how you can blame put all this on Trump.
Well they Fox News sures he'll put it all on Biden.

Speaker 7 (06:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (06:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:24):
And you know what's interesting is, I don't know if
you saw this press release that came out from the
White House where they're touting all the accomplishments of the
White House and how popular the accomplishments are. And it's
you know, pointing to things like fewer foreign students at universities,
and you know, we're starting to get immigrants, it's beefing

(06:46):
up border security. But then when you're asked to look
at how people are feeling about the economy, that's the
lowest result. And so it turns out, you know, some
of these immigration targets are not actually.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Helping anyone's bottom line.

Speaker 8 (07:01):
And it'll be.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
Interesting to see, you know, looking ahead to twenty six
how this all plays out. I don't know that the
administration can count or by extension, the Republican Party, a
lot of folks that are going to be up, you know,
is it going to matter some of these quote unquote
cultural issues where they've been able to tout these so
called accomplishments when at the end of the day, these
job numbers, the overall economic picture and just how people

(07:25):
are experiencing the economy right now is not very positive.
And they're they're saying it when they're asked, and the
polling is reflecting that.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well, that's one of the reasons why they have all
of this spin. I mean, so they're trying everything to
not talk about it, even this you know, you know, hang,
you know, shoot, execute Democrats. Look, Donald Trump is trying
to throw everything out here to keep people not focused
on his pathetic job when it comes to the economy.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
Yeah, and I'm going to point to another thing for
us to continue to monitor here is the health care sector.
I mean, this is where a lot of jobs have
been created, but that's another area of a lot of
sensitivity vulnerability. You know, So jobs are being created, but
there's a lot of vertical integration in the industry. Hospitals

(08:19):
that are dependent on a lot of federal funds coming
in that isn't necessarily guaranteed in this environment, and so
that might not continue to drive that growth. And we're seeing,
you know that the premiums are continuing to go up.
Employers can't manage these costs, and that might also lead
to a need to shed workforce or shed benefits, leading

(08:41):
to other ripple effects in the economy for people if
they have to go to the exchanges, should the exchanges
continue to exist if they're not getting employer provided health care.
So there's a lot of complexity here. I do think
we're going to have to continue to look at healthcare.
That's a both immediate just monitoring what's happening, but then
also a discussion about what comes next, because even in

(09:02):
a world where the substitutes continue for the Affordable Care Act,
these premiums are becoming unsustainable. Like I was saying, for
a lot of employers, there's a lot of concentration of
power where large companies that are on Wall Street are
not necessarily focused on delivery of care or controlling costs,
quite the opposite, And we've got to think through how
to change those incentives to make sure that yes, we

(09:23):
continue to have a sector that's employing people, but also
employing people to deliver medicine and care, not just reward shareholders.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Well, it's going to be quite interesting to see how
this plays out in the economy. Is not getting better.
That was a I saw there was a front page.
Do y'all have that front page or the des moining newspaper?
This was it was really interesting Morgan seeing this. I saw,
I was God this morning, I was looking at different

(09:54):
stories or whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
And I'm telling you all.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
These crime farmers and they're sitting here, all them set
and again they they voted for this, dude. This is
the front page right here, the morn Register, growing bankruptcies,
more farmers seek help, counselings, crops, prices, fall expenses add up. Well,
guess what y'all voted for this, dude.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
Yeah, I am very very curious how twenty six is
going to play out. And yeah, I mean it's just
I'm going to point.

Speaker 8 (10:30):
To this White House release.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
I mean, even the accomplishments that they're trying to convince people.
When you have to put out a release to convince
people that the economy is strong, that already suggests something
is a bit awry. But you know, they're pointing things
like you're going to get the best tax refund ever
in a year wait for it, right. I think what
we're hearing from a lot of these farmers is that

(10:55):
they're in a day to day situation, it's not they
don't have a year. And so if people are really
feeling these impacts so immediately, I would think that it's
gonna shift the electoral outcomes here.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
But only time will tell.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I guess, well, noally that so I saw this video here.
So now he's unleashing these raids in North Carolina, and
this farm in North Carolina said.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
This single turn out wheel. Take this out, Morgan.

Speaker 9 (11:25):
I'm on a farm in.

Speaker 10 (11:26):
North Carolina, and I can tell you for a fact
that these raids will not make our state more safe,
but they will make it more expensive. And it will
be a stain on all of us in May, when
we start harvesting strawberries, after the toll of deportation, raids
and the psychological trauma inflict on the Latino communities continue
to fester, Farms like us aren't going to have our
usual labor. We've already been told there's going to be
a shortage. I spoke with one farmer who's posted locally

(11:48):
for jobs harvesting produce for ten years, and he's never
had a local person apply. He doesn't even know what
he's going to do next year. The people being rounded
up are hard working individuals, not criminals, and the blunt
force tactics are meant to make people afraid. They're not targeted.
They're biased against people who don't look like me. Many
of the people affected or working on our farms, building
our houses, constructing our roads, that the hardest working people

(12:10):
I know. They're humble and kind, with actual family values.
I believe a day of reckoning will come. But unfortunately,
not just for the people perpetuating this awful tragedy, but
for us as a country for letting it happen. Have
the day you voted for.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
See the thing right here, not only that construction jobs,
these farm jobs, and so all these folks again they
love them some Trump. They can't stand the immigrants. They
don't want all they trash and undocumented workers. Okay, you're
now about to experience the thing you said you want it.

Speaker 6 (12:49):
Well, yeah, and you know, if you're looking at Ohio
for example, where I am, you have a state government
that has completely disinvested in education of young people, and
so they're not exactly building up some kind of like
next generation workforce that is prepared to take on leadership
in any of these sectors or be able to be

(13:10):
employed in them, and then you're eliminating what has been
filling these jobs. And look, I mean, I think we
all agree we want Americans to be successful. We want
Americans to be able to get good paying jobs.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
But y'all can't have it both ways.

Speaker 6 (13:24):
You know, It's like you're cutting what is the current
labor force and you are not investing in people who
actually live here, which you claim to be caring about,
and that is just not going to add up. And
so yeah, I it's it's it's a pretty depressing situation.
I mean, there's no way to sugarcoat this, but I
do think it's important for us, and I you know,

(13:45):
I think I say it almost every time I come
on to just continue to try to get the facts
out about what is happening on the ground. I Mean,
we had a there's a small town here northeast of
Columbus where, you know, a taco The only restaurant in
the town more or less was shut down, this taco
shop because of the raids, and that was that was
the restaurant that was employing people. That was where people

(14:07):
were going for you know, when they're trying to just
like hang out for a little bit. They were also
sponsoring sports teams and different community activities, and so at
every level this is all backwards, and I do hope
that people will kind of make these connections quickly as
we look ahead to next year.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
All right, Morgan Hawper, always a player who appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (14:26):
Thanks a lot, good to see you.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Going to a quick break. We'll come up with my
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We had doctor Greg were joined a little bit later
by doctor Greg Cart Department Bath for America Studies at
how a University Joy Cheney found Joy Strategies out of DC.
All right, let's get right into it. I have been
cracking up laughing, I really have about the Jobs Report
and every every time it comes out, because it was
always hilarious to me.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Reci for four years, how Fox News.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Was just apoplectic and they just could not understand how
great the ecmedy was. Every single month, every single month
of Biden hairs it like every single month they know
what they were like, damn another good jobs report, and
it was just driving them crazy. And now it's killing
them and they're trying to find some glimmer of hope.

(16:52):
When it comes to Donald Trump listening to this, I
thought this was pretty funny.

Speaker 13 (16:56):
The unemployment rate going up to what is a cycle
of four point four four percent if you look at
the full number, and it's not good news because if
you look at these are people entering the workforce?

Speaker 14 (17:12):
Yeah, not so much.

Speaker 13 (17:14):
The way that the Bureau of Labor Statistics calculates this,
they interpret the numbers as follows. They use a Census
Bureau of Population estimate to inflate the survey sample size
to the US population size. So the number that they're using,
the census number they're using for population growth is based

(17:39):
on a comprehensive population update that was done at the
end of last year. Chris Lowe, the economists adjusted for
known border crosses and deportations. Now under President Trump, the
actual numbers likely showed that half that number that was

(18:00):
used in this calculation is reflected half that much labor
force growth. So cut that labor force growth number in half.
That is near zero employment growth in the household survey
used to calculate the unemployment rate. So the unemployment rate

(18:20):
based and so an unemployment rate that is still four
point four four percent. That is the ratio in the
sample that so it's like if you adjust the calculation,
it's not because of good news.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
We also have just how good news racing.

Speaker 12 (18:43):
I'm shocked that Fox News is admitting that the Trump
administration is clean the books. This is a big reason
why Donald Trump fired the statistician that is not typically
a part in position, so that he can get numbers
in there that are more favorable to the story that
he wants to tell. But it's important to note that
these stories that these numbers are from September.

Speaker 8 (19:02):
We are days away.

Speaker 12 (19:04):
From December, so we're not getting October numbers anytime soon.
And I can only imagine kind of carnage was done
to the labor force because of the government shut down,
because the people having to pull back on spending in
a number of things. There have been reports that seasonal
hiring related to retail are much lower than they had

(19:24):
been in prior years, even though there have been some
strong numbers out from Walmart and Nvidia had a good
arnings report. But there are a lot of warning signs
in this economy and the reality is this all Donald
Trump's funky ass had to do.

Speaker 8 (19:40):
When he got in office was due nothing.

Speaker 12 (19:44):
The Biden Harris economy was still chugging along yet slowed
down a little bit, but there were still job growth.
All of the job losses that we're seeing, all of
this massive disruption to the economy is because of Donald
Trump's policies. It is because of his rading terror policies.
It's because businesses had no idea what you expect from

(20:04):
one day to the next, and so they stopped hiring,
which is reflected in the stagnant.

Speaker 8 (20:10):
Job hiring numbers.

Speaker 12 (20:11):
People stay put in their jobs even if their jobs suck,
and they don't want to do that.

Speaker 8 (20:15):
People are having a hard time who.

Speaker 12 (20:17):
Are long term unemployed, and prices are up, inflation is up.
So all of these errors that we're finding in the
economy are unforced errors, and they are deliberate policy from
this administration. And so Donald Trump could say whatever he
wants to say about this new word affordability or groceries
is a new word, or whatever the word he's discovering

(20:38):
because he's an out of touch billionaire. But you can't
gaslight the American people on what they feel. And that's
why even though DEM's and all their flaws and their
poor perception from the general public are kicking Republicans ass
on the generic ballot in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
See Joy. Here's the thing that I think that people
have to understand. It's very simple.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Those who are in charge will get the blame or
the credit. Simple as that you're gonna get blame or
credit Democrats.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
And what was.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Interesting is that, uh, the White House is trying to
do the exact same thing the Biden White House did,
telling people's not as bad as they think it is.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
People like, no, it is.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
And and this is the thing that that I have
long said, and I said this when Biden Harris we
was there, that all of these people who are out here,
they were expecting this snap back economy.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
They were like, it was as if COVID never existed.
So they were.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Complaining about inflation, they were complaining about prices, they were
blaming what can you do about it, knowing full well
the president actually can't. Well, there were moves made by
Biden that actually were smart when it came to gas
for teaching or reserve, all those different things, but got no.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Credit for it.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
But here you have mister oh I can save the
world on day one. Everything that's going to change, everything
will be fixed day one, day one. And these idiots
actually believe them. They said, oh, day one, he's gonna
end the Ukraine Russian War. Day one, he's gonna end
Israel and Hamas fighting in gospel. Day one, he's gonna

(22:27):
lure everything, and so they fall for it. Now all
of a sudden they realize, damn, he's tears kicking our ass.
So all of these people and that's why I'm just
sitting back, you know, get I got thoughts in prayers.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
All of these farmers who complaining, don't look at us.
Y'all voted for his ass.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
These folks in North Carolina, they are about to learn
what's gonna happen when all these places are getting raided.
It was a country club that went off because ice
came onto their property trying to snatch folks and hadn't
talk to anybody, and so all this stuff was going on.
Then you can people like that full out of Ohio
Jim Jordan, who posted this year, doesn't it seem like

(23:07):
Democrats would rather see President Trump failed than American succeed?
I swear joy for four years. That's all I hurt.
Republicans want they wanted the economy to create. They kept
predicting a recession for four years, every single week for
four years, and it never happened.

Speaker 15 (23:26):
That's right, And we actually know that when Mixed McConnell
was Leader of the Senate and Donald Trump was coming in,
he not only was betting on Donald President Obama failing,
he was waiting for it and trying to orchestrate it
because they thought that was in their political interest. So
of course Jim Jordan is echoing. He's telling on himself.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
No, no, I'm sorry, you meant you meant Okay, Now, No,
that was when Obama was elected president in two thousand
and nine.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Yeah, that's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, not Trump, not Trump, not Trump.

Speaker 15 (23:53):
I'm saying Obama when he was elected, the Republicans were
very open. So Jim, what he's doing is refine what
is the Republican strategy When Democrats are in office. We
always are pulling for the American people. In this case,
we see is right. If Donald Trump failed, we probably
would succeed. We had a stronger economy when he came

(24:15):
in office than we have today. And it is I
think we talk about the results of this economic downturn,
but we don't talk about why Roland does, which is great,
but we got to dig deeper into it. It is
because of the tariffs, It is because of the instability
he has created in the market. It is because of
his attack on things that are actually good for bottom lines,

(24:35):
that includes including everyone in the economy. It is his
immigration rays which has created destabilization in the housing market,
in in other markets around the country, in the farming market, etc.
It is his deals with other countries, going back to
the tariffs that have actually hurt American farmers. All of

(24:57):
those things are hurting American people at a time to
be clear, where costs.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Are going out in due part to tariffs and due
part to destabilization in the houses.

Speaker 15 (25:07):
I mean, excuse me, in the healthcare market, right, jobs
are being lost, so fewer jobs at a time where
there's higher costs.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
This is Donald Trump and instability.

Speaker 15 (25:20):
Instability is not good for business. It means that they
can't plan for the future. And Recie is right, we're
talking about hearing what happened in September. There's a lag.
The government shut down is going to have a significant
impact on the economy. In October and November, so we
can anticipate that there will be economic downturn doing those months,

(25:40):
but it won't rely be because of the shutdown.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Well I love this racily. Well Trump is lord. You know,
Thanksgiving dinner by about thirty cents. I mean they are
tried everything.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
In the world. So I mean, I mean, he's my
whole deal. Hey, seck it up.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Y'all said this man was brilliant on the economy. Oh,
he was pulled way higher than vice perversion of the
kama has on the economy.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Okay, let's see your magic. Nah, it was.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
A con The con man conned the fools again. He
didn't con black women, he didn't con black men. He
conned everybody else.

Speaker 8 (26:22):
Right, Well, I.

Speaker 12 (26:22):
Remember one of the examples that they used to try
to say that, oh, Thanksgiving dinner is cheaper was a
Walmart basket where the Walmart basket had fewer items this
year than it did in the last year's basket. And
so if you try to manipulate, which is what this
administration always does. They try to manipulate the data, they
just make numbers up, then maybe you could kind.

Speaker 8 (26:43):
Of figure out a way to.

Speaker 12 (26:44):
Make Thanksgiving cheaper but the reality is that prices are up.

Speaker 8 (26:48):
It is high as shit to get groceries. Okay, so
maybe it's.

Speaker 12 (26:52):
Gonna be cheaper because you're gonna have less size, or
we're gonna have a little bit less.

Speaker 8 (26:55):
Turkey or less hand, whatever situation may be.

Speaker 12 (26:58):
People making substitutes might make it cheaper, But you cannot
convince people what people spend.

Speaker 8 (27:04):
People know what their budgets are.

Speaker 12 (27:05):
People know how much money they have left over after
they go to the grocery store, after they go to McDonald's,
or what's what's what's a little in between olive garden
where the where the rich folks and the poor folks
can all have a little nice meal out. So it's
it's not going to work trying to tell people that
things don't cost as much when people know damn well
what it costs. And so, you know, I think it's

(27:25):
it's desperate and it just shows that they're unseerious about
really tackling the issues that we need them to tackle.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
And and it does, it doesn't, It doesn't.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
It doesn't help reci when your dumb ass tears complete
and with no no no strategy, no plan, no nothing,
it's just completely haphazard that has played a crucial.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Role also in all of this uh.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Uncertain, and he just kind of like, well, let's see
whoever gives me a gold plated so whatever, I'll lower
your tears.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I mean, it's been a joke.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
And the Republicans are just sitting going, Okay, don't go ahead,
do whatever you want.

Speaker 12 (28:04):
I can, I can I just real quick say on
that you know, talk about it is. The thing about
it is with teriffs is that they have tariffed every
single country practically in this in this world. So when
you're talking about raw goods that we important, when you
talk about even things such as aluminum, every part of
the products that we pay for in grocery stores have
some sort of important piece in it.

Speaker 8 (28:24):
And the price of all those things has gone up.

Speaker 12 (28:26):
And so what we've seen is we've seen people like
Procter and Gamble and other companies say sure, we may
not raise the price, but we will change the formulations
on things, or will change how much quantity you get
within the same packaging, or we'll change the packaging that
you're getting for the same price.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
And so, yes, they have through these.

Speaker 12 (28:44):
Tariffs not only raise the price of every component of
the supply chain. But they've also weakened the economies of
skills that we get because we don't have as wide
a market for our for our businesses to sell to.

Speaker 8 (28:58):
And so whereas they would.

Speaker 12 (28:59):
Normally be able to save because they are, you know,
producing much more than they get to export, a lot
of these export markets have been closed off. So every
single step of the economic chain, every step of the
supply chain, whether we're importing or exporting, has been adversely
impacted by this administration. And as Joy said, that instability
is a big reason why we're seeing even more chaos

(29:22):
because if you know that, well, today the tariff is
fifty percent, but maybe somebody would scratched Donald Trump's back
throwing a cheeseburger, and it'll be thirty five percent next week.

Speaker 8 (29:31):
Then people are gonna wait it out.

Speaker 12 (29:32):
They're gonna wait out what they do in terms of
capital expenditures, they're gonna wait out what they do in
terms of inventory, they're gonna wait.

Speaker 8 (29:38):
Out what they do in terms of hiring and firing.

Speaker 12 (29:40):
And so that stagnant is that stagnation is really showing
up in all of the numbers that we're seeing, and
it's costing Americans a lot more at the grocery store.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
And plus we know all he's doing is lying, is
ass soft joy Saudi Arabia. They're going to invest one
trillion dollars.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
To the American economy.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
The entire gross domestic product of Saudi Arabia is.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
One point one trillion.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Exactly, dude, stop it.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I mean, so he he's lied about the Japanese, he's
lied about I mean, he just lies, lies, lies, and oh,
massive investment because oh yeah, yeah, we cut a deal
where they're gonna give us a billions and I get
to decide how it's gonna be spent in the United States.
And then the countries like, no, we didn't. They we'll

(30:30):
talked about. I can't kill anybody. He lies about lies.

Speaker 15 (30:35):
He lies about lies, and then when he can't lie anymore,
he just cuts off the data. He says, no more,
we're not even gonna report anymore. I am Republicans who
are also saying, I don't know that we're ever gonna
get the data. And look, everyone out here has common sense.
If that data was good, he would be he wouldn't
be making it up.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
He would be out there flying it high.

Speaker 15 (30:54):
He's not because it's bad data, and he understands that,
and the best thing to do is to not reported
in his case. And with respect to any investments that
are coming from other countries, we can be assured that
they are investments that will go to the top per
centers of in the American economy that the American people
will never see it. To be clear, what economists are

(31:15):
saying right now is we have all the indications that
we've had the greatest job loss since the Great Depression.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
That that's what could be on.

Speaker 15 (31:24):
The other side in the new year and in coming
years under Donald Trump for us. That's what they are saying.
When you're looking at historical data and patterns, that is
a real concern. And Donald Trump doesn't seem to be
making any changes to make that different. So he might
float things out there like I'm gonna give you a check,
or I'm going to give.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
You that, but my goodness, a one time check.

Speaker 15 (31:46):
What does that mean for your for your long term
generational wealth.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Nothing.

Speaker 15 (31:51):
Well, everyone understands that, and that's never going to happen
because it's illegal.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
So those things.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
He also can't give you a check because that has
to be passed by Congress. He just can't just on
his own say I'm send out two thousand dollars checks. No,
that has to be passed by the House and the Senate.
So but again, though, but again, the idiots fall forward
and they go, oh my god, No, it's great, He's
gonna send us.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Two grand No it's not.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
No, it's not because y'all, y'all fall for the okie dope.
And I'm telling you, I just all I'm doing every is,
every day progresses. What did I say back in January?
I said people have to f a f o and
they have and so they have to learn the hard way.
What did I say? They're gonna have to experience maximum

(32:40):
pain to then realize, Oh my god, what was I thinking?

Speaker 1 (32:46):
And so that's why I'm sorry. I don't.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I have no feelings. If you're a Muslim in Dearborn,
Michigan and you're pissed off that the racist right wing
is protesting Muslims in Debro, Michigan, and y'all think that
voting for Trump gave you cover, I don't. I don't
have any feelings for farmers in Nebraska, in Iowa and Wisconsin,

(33:16):
in Pennsylvania and North Carolina and Georgia that vote in
Michigan that voted for Trump, I don't. If y'all are
going bankrupt, I'm sorry. I don't have anything for you
because y'all voted for him. If you're Latino and you're

(33:36):
a Cuban and you're Venezuelan and oh, I'm sorry, y'all
about to get deported and he's sitting here removing your
legal status. IM sorry, bonb blac is your fellow countrymen
and women who were voters.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
They voting for this.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
So the people who are experiencing massive amounts of pain,
I feel nothing for them.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
I don't because this is what they voted for.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
And every time they say, oh, no, no, no, I
voted for this, this, this not this.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
No.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
When you vote, and when you vote, it's not a buffet.
You're not a Golden corral. You're gonna get to pick
and choose what are voting for. Nope, you vote for them,
all of.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
It, whether it's good or bad.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
So I'm like, sorry, suck it up, and I got it.
I got I gotta go to a quick break and
we come back. We come back. We got to deal
with this here. Republicans repealing a DC law including keeping
thuggish cops off the force.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
And a CBC them have voted for it.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
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C two zero zero three seven Dad zero one nine
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Speaker 16 (35:20):
If in this country right now you have people get
up in the morning and the only thing they can
think about is how many people they can hurt, and
they've got the power.

Speaker 8 (35:30):
That's the time for morning, for better or worse.

Speaker 17 (35:33):
What makes America special, It's that legal system that's supposed
to protect.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Minorities from the tyranny of the majority.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
We are at a point of a moral emergency.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
We must raise a voice of outrage. We must raise
a voice of compassion. And we must raise a voice
of unity.

Speaker 16 (35:56):
We are not in a crisis of party versus party.
We are in a crisis of civilization, a human rights crisis,
and a crisis of democracy itself.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
And guess what.

Speaker 16 (36:08):
You've been chosen to make sure that those that would destroy,
those that would hate, don't have the final say and
they don't ultimately win.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Hello, I'm Paula J.

Speaker 18 (36:21):
Parker Truty, Proud of the Proud Family, Louder and Prouder
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Speaker 1 (37:16):
House.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Republicans push through two bills on Wednesday aimed squarely at
rolling back DC's recent justice and policy reforms. The first,
called the District of Columbia Cash Bill Reform Act, sponsored
by IT Representative Alist the FARC, would scrap.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
DC's no cash bill system.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Instead, it brings back cash bill, meaning your freedom depends
on whether you.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Can afford to pay it.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
It also lies with Donald Trump's August executive order to
end cash list bill nationwide. The second bill, the Clean
DC Act, sponsored by Congressman Andrew Clyde, aims at the
city's police reforms, things like limits on chokehols, strict your
body cam rules, accountability standards. Republicans say those changes helped

(38:03):
fuel last year's spike in crime. No proof of course
to back it up. Twenty Democrats voted for the Clean
DC Act. They are Henry Quailar out of Texas, Don
Davis out of North Carolina, Laura Gillan out of New York,
Jarrett Golden out of Maine, Maggie Goodlander out of New Hampshire,

(38:27):
Josh Gottheimer out of New Jersey, Adam Gray out of California,
Marcy Capitol out of Ohio, Susie Lee out of Nevada,
Dave Men out of California, Jimmy Panetta out of California,
Chris Pappas out of New Hampshire, Marie Glucy to Perez
out of Washington State, Josh Riley out of New York,

(38:47):
Patrick Ryan out of New York, Kim Schreer out of Washington,
Eric Sorenston out of Illinois, Thomas Osiozi out of New York,
Eugene Vinman out of Virginia, George Whitesize out of California.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
So twenty Democrats.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
NOE CBC member now Congressman Don Davis comes from a
plus two red district. They jerry mandered his seat, that
jerry mandered him out.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
So here's my question to Congressman Don Davis.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
I need you to explain to the people you're not
from DC. So let me be real clear, Don Davis
represents North Carolina. There are no constituents of Don Davis
or any of these Democrats in Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
But I'm gonna need them to.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Explain to me why in the hell would you vote
for a bill that's there to protect citizens. Explain to
me the logic behind this. We reached out to his office,
no response. I texted him them, no response. But this

(40:03):
is gonna kind of crap. And Republicans do because because
Congress has oversight of a DC, Republicans in charge, they
can do whatever they want. And these twenty Democrats should
be challenged on that. These twenty Democrats should be challenged
on y'all like choke holds. Are y'all saying that you

(40:26):
don't want body cams? Are you saying that you don't
like accountability? But it's amazing no answer. Oh, I'm gonna
keep texting him and I'm gonna call him because that's
shameful and despicable. And these twenty Democrats and Republicans should

(40:47):
be called out because they clearly don't give a damn
about the residents.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Rec Yeah, I.

Speaker 12 (40:59):
Mean, it's no surprise that a bunch of white Democrats
don't give a damn about police brutality. Much of these
things are the same topic of that racial reckoning that
we had in twenty twenty around George Floyd and Amad
Aubrey and Breanna Taylor. So this is a slap in
the face. It's a slap in the face to the
blood that was spilled and to the protest movement that

(41:21):
really got some tangible gains. But it's also a slap
in the face to the autonomy and self governance of
residents of DC, many most of whom are black.

Speaker 8 (41:29):
And so it's just arrogance and it's stupid.

Speaker 12 (41:32):
It's stupid, and it's cowardice because democrats don't are these democrats.
There were obviously hundreds of Democrats that didn't vote this way,
but you have a segment of Democrats that.

Speaker 8 (41:43):
Are too afraid to ever appear to be.

Speaker 12 (41:45):
Anything other than bowing down and capitulating to the police force.
And so, yeah, Don Davis, that's disgraceful at a minimum,
stat of DC's business.

Speaker 8 (41:55):
Hello, So yeah, I don't understand what that is.

Speaker 12 (41:58):
He's new to Congress, getting in twenty twenty three, so
I don't have the ability to say he's a hypocrite
for any kind of George Floyd Justson policing activity. But
it's definitely disgraceful and I'm glad you're calling it out.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Roland, Well, it is yours to be called out, because again,
the whole point here is how do you have police accountability?
And what these twenty Democrats Republicans are saying is, oh, yeah,
we don't want any accountability.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Of police in DC. That's I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Enjoy princimple, that is what they're saying.

Speaker 15 (42:34):
What they're also saying is that their constituencies want to
see law and order and they can't do anything about
it on their local streets because, of course, a member
of Congress doesn't control local policing policy. So they're going
to do it by proxy, beating up on the people
of Washington, DC, interfering with their ability to engage in

(42:55):
home rule. I have a friend on that list that
was surprised to see him, so apologies for being taken aback.
I will be reaching out to that friend to say, wtf,
please explain your vote. And of course, you know I'm
a former saffer. I don't you know.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
I'm not gonna, you.

Speaker 15 (43:14):
Know, say that there can't be some reason why they
would have voted for them. But my guess is that
they think that if they can capitulate they don't really
support this.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Bill, but they feel like if they can be on.

Speaker 15 (43:26):
The record that somehow that's going to endear them to
their constituents.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
That's it will never work.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
First of all, it's an easy answer.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
It's an easy answer if you get corintis I say,
I don't represent Washington.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
DC exactly, so you have to say you.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
I mean, the answer is, if you're pulling this up again,
pull us up again, y'all.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Look at the people who voted for it. I'll read,
where are they from?

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Texas, North Carolina, New York State, California, Maine, New Hampshire,
New Jersey, California, Ohio, Nevada, California, California, New Hampshire, Washington State,
New York State, New York State, Washington State, Illinois, New
York State, Ben Minney out of Virginia, California. The answer

(44:13):
is real simple those are not my constituents.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
I don't represent them and the Bob lineers, So go
to my iPad.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
This is from WJLA. The law that was past, y'all
and now go to Senate. It bans the law that
was passed by DC. Banned the use of chocos, amended
access requirements for body Warren camera footage, added additional guidelines
to the use of forced review. Board prohibited officers from

(44:43):
reviewing body Warren camera recordings to assist in initial report writing,
and prohibits negotiating discipline in its collective bargaining rules.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
These twenty Democrats.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Including George Friend and CDC member Don Davis, they voted
to repeal that law. So what they're saying is they
don't like any of these things for Washington, DC.

Speaker 8 (45:11):
That's right, And I mean, can I add to that like.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Goy finished in race, go yeah, I mean.

Speaker 15 (45:18):
I mean the other thing I think that's important to notice,
it's not authentic. My guess is that none of these
Democrats necessarily support this bill because one, they don't know
anything about DC. It really doesn't have anything to do
with them. And so what the constituents have been signaled
is that these are weak Democrats. They are two weeks
what one two weeks ago or three weeks ago now
is authentic Democrats. They were all different, but they were

(45:41):
all authentically themselves and they stood up for what they
believed in. This is old democratic politics, where we do
things that are contrived that people know we don't believe
in because we think it's gonna benefit us with people
who don't even like us. In the case of Don Davis,
they're getting rid of him, so why would he support them?
How would that even benefit him? It is stupid.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
The chair of the chairman of the DC Police Union
reci said HR five fifty one oh seven is the
clean break we need to restore commons since policing and
reduce crime. The district passing HR fifty one oh seven
isn't about politics. It's about giving our officers the tools,
protections and respect they need to protect the public our
city count a Ford another day, the sick Feld experiment
earlier said that, oh, that's why experienced officers were retiring. No,

(46:24):
they were retiring because they can't stand more accountability.

Speaker 8 (46:27):
Rec right, That's that's what it is.

Speaker 12 (46:30):
But let me add that Jared Golden, who's one of
the representatives who voted for this. He's retiring from elected office,
and so I believe that some of this is about
the fact that these white Democrats, let's be honest, believe
in the idea that cops should have much more authority

(46:51):
to abuse black people.

Speaker 8 (46:53):
That's what it boils down to.

Speaker 12 (46:54):
Jared Golden is in May Okay, the other one, Gustin
camp or Marie whatever you always thinking her nose, and
somebody who ain't black business all the way over there
in Washington.

Speaker 8 (47:03):
A lot of these.

Speaker 12 (47:04):
Democrats do actually agree with with with the language of
this and agree with giving cops the authority to do
whatever the hell they want to do, knowing that the
victims of police brutality, knowing that the victims of police
corruption are not very likely to be people that look
like them in their constituents.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Absolutely, all right, folks, let's go to Florida.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
South Florida Congresswoman Sheila scherflest McCormick is speaking out if
she was then indicted for stealing five million dollars in
federal disaster relief funds and laundering the money to financi
her twenty twenty one congressional campaign. The Justice Department alleges
a schriflest McCormick and her brother funnel and overpayment from
a FEMA COVID COVID nineteen vaccination contract through multiple accounts

(47:51):
to hide its source. A significant portion was then funnel
into her campaign through straw donor schemes. A shrifless McCormick
called chart is baseless.

Speaker 19 (48:02):
Everyday people who what it's an unjust indictment, And it
seems like these intimidation tactics have been pervasive. We spent
all week seeing different members getting censured, all in hopes
and intimidating and kind of distracting from the Epstein files.
And I look forward to my day court so I
can improve myself and actually state the truth. But if
this is what Congress is becoming, where they're always trying
to intimidate you scare tactics, especially attacking minorities, black and

(48:25):
brown people, then we're going to have to keep fighting
for the district.

Speaker 8 (48:28):
And everybody has been giving me so much support.

Speaker 19 (48:30):
Then we're going to keep fighting until the district gets
what it needs, which is fair prices, housing and fair
representation of time.

Speaker 15 (48:37):
So thank you so much.

Speaker 19 (48:38):
Probably to shut down or resign dating and Electric it
is my district, and so we're keep fighting for the
people and keep working like we're doing now until they
get what they need.

Speaker 8 (48:48):
So we're here for the people. So the only people
who elected me should have made that decision.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Thank you so much, Republic.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
He represented Greg Stroupe that he plans to follow motion
to censure her. Democratic leader Hockeing Jeffries release the statements
she lived. Cheerfulest Bucomac has probably represented the people of
Palm Beach in Broward County since.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Consistent with the United States Constitution, she's entitled to her
day in court the presumption of innocence pursuing to the
rules of the House Democratic Caucus.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Congress Foman Jeerfulest Belcomac.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Will take leave from her position as ranking member on
the Foreign Affairs Committee's subcommittee on the Middle East and
North Africa.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
All this matter is ongoing.

Speaker 20 (49:26):
Recent thoughts, This don't look good, but you now the
presumption of anything until proven guilty jail and I'm not
going to defend any of this.

Speaker 12 (49:38):
I will say that I don't trust the Trump DJ.
I will say that they have clearly targeted and weaponized
the DJ in terms of their prosecution.

Speaker 8 (49:50):
But this is very specific.

Speaker 12 (49:52):
And you know, financial crimes, so hopefully Homegirl.

Speaker 8 (49:58):
Is into say they would just put it back there
because so.

Speaker 12 (50:00):
The oldbody is getting free pass and nobody's getting a
blind eye under Donald Trump.

Speaker 8 (50:05):
So cross your teas at dot your eyes. Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
This actually, Joy has been under investigation for some time
and in fact, if you actually look at this is
the statement the press release state, so it mentions her
mentions her brother Atwin Surflus fifty one. It also said
the indictment further late is that Surflus, McCormick and Nadij

(50:30):
LeBlanc forty six, samr mar arrange additional contributions using straw donors.
The indictment also charges Survile's McCormick and her twenty twenty
one tax prepared David Spencer with conspiracy to fallow a
false federal tax return. So there are multiple individuals who
are being targeted.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
If convicted, Surflus, McCormick.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Faces up to fifty three years in prison at Wind
Surfless faces up the thirty five years in prison, LeBlanc
ten years, Spencer up to thirty three years.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Joy.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Yeah, I mean, look, we're gonna find out what happens here.
I don't jump to conclusions. You know, you're innocdental proven guilty.
That's the case always, even with Donald Trump, he has
been proven guilty. That's the crimes.

Speaker 15 (51:13):
Those are the crimes that I'm most interested in, the
crimes that he is committing and that he's been accused of,
and the members of his administration have been accused of,
because they're the ones that really hurt the most Americans.
But yeah, absolutely, if someone has engaged in a crime
where they are tapening off federal funds, engaging in something
that ultimately hurts their local community and abuses test payer dollars, absolutely,

(51:35):
I want them fully prosecuted, and I want them to
also have the ability to fully adjudicate and defend themselves
in court. That's what's gonna happen. How King Jefferson is
saying it right, Let's follow the House rules and let's
go forward. I wish for her that she gets real serious.
She seems to be serious. Don't make it about politics,
Make it about defending yourself and do what you need

(51:57):
to do in order to continue to represent your situents.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
During this time.

Speaker 15 (52:01):
I don't believe that anyone should necessarily resign. I think
that you ought to continue to fight as you defend charges,
and we ought to give her the room to do that.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
This is the NPR story, it says.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
In December twenty twenty four, Florida State agency sued a
company owned by Shurflets McCormick's families, saying it overcharged the
state by nearly five point eight million dollars for work
done during the pandemic and wouldn't give the money back.
The Florida Division of Emergency Management said it made a
series of overpayments to Trinity Healthcare Services after hiring it

(52:31):
in twenty twenty one to register people for.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
COVID nineteen vaccinations. The agency says.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
It discovered the problem after a single five million dollar
overpayment drew attention. Shirplets McCormick was the CEO Trending at
the time. The Office of Congressional Ethics said in a
January report that Shurfless McCormick's income in twenty twenty one
was more than six million dollars higher than in twenty twenty,
driven by nearly five point seventy five million in consultant

(53:00):
and profit sharing fees received from Trinity Healthcare Services. In July,
the House Ethics Committee you nationally voted to reauthorize an
investigative subcommittee to examine allegations involving Cheplust McCormick. So we
will tell you what happens next with this story. All right, y'all,
we come back. Pro Public has a great story talking
about women who have lost their lives because of these

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However, that that's not the case.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Republic Up That's published an article detailing the disparities in
black maternal health, highlighting stories of black mothers who did
not survive. One tragic example, thirty seven year old Tierra
Walker from Texas, who died twenty weeks pregnant after doctors
refused to provide her with an abortion despite severe health risk.

(56:17):
Republica reporter Kavita Suama Jones is now to discuss this investigation.
Glad to have you on the show, Kavida, What did
y'all find out?

Speaker 5 (56:28):
Thank you for having me?

Speaker 22 (56:30):
Well, I think the most important thing to know about
this particular story is looking into the fact that abortion
bands in the United States don't have real health exceptions
for the kinds of risks that women routinely face in pregnancy,
and this case really shows that Tiara Walker, who.

Speaker 5 (56:49):
Lived in San Antonio.

Speaker 22 (56:50):
She was thirty seven, a dental assistant with a fourteen
year old son. Spent much of her pregnancy in the hospital.
She had skyrocketing blood pressure, diabetes, then she developed a
seizure disorder and blood cloths and basically she entered her
pregnancy sick and she got sicker as it went on,

(57:11):
as doctors expected. But despite that, and despite asking if
an abortion would protect her health, she was never offered
that option.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
Her family says, who.

Speaker 22 (57:21):
Spent much of the time in the hospital with her,
and her records show as well, which we reviewed in
depth with more than a dozen maternal health experts across
the country. And when you look at how much time
she spent in the hospital and.

Speaker 5 (57:36):
See that at least ninety doctors.

Speaker 22 (57:38):
Were involved in her care, I really think it points
out to how these laws have changed women's health care
in Texas and other parts of the country. And because
we know that there's a maternal mortality crisis, a maternal
death crisis in the United States already before this, and
that that has fallen hardest on the black community because

(58:04):
of long standing.

Speaker 5 (58:05):
Issues and.

Speaker 22 (58:07):
Both you know, healthcare systems and socioeconomic factors and racial
discrimination in the healthcare system that these laws just worsen.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Not Yeah, and this was exactly what many of us
say it was going to happen. And part of the
problem is that you have doctors who are so concerned
because they're like, they know what the hell to do,
threats to take their license, and so many folks say,
you know what, We're not gonna do anything.

Speaker 22 (58:40):
Yes, in this case, we tried to reach out to
some of the doctors involved in key parts of her care.
We reached out to the hospital and none of them
would talk to us.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
But we have been doing this reporting for years now.

Speaker 22 (58:52):
We've talked to more than one hundred obg wnds across
the country. We've written about specific cases where the doctors
did describe how they were confused by the law, that
a patient in front of them had a very serious,
life threatening condition, but their legal teams weren't allowing them
or supporting them to provide care. Sometimes what happens too
is you have to remember it's not just one doctor

(59:14):
making a decision on a case. These doctors have to
work with a whole staff, and especially when a procedure
is complicated, So there's a lawsuit going on right now
in Texas of a woman who it was written by
in her records that she needed a life saving abortion
because she had in state renal disease, but they couldn't
find an anesthesiologist who would participate in the care. So

(59:36):
the doctors were ready to but one doctor who was
key wouldn't or sometimes you hear it's nurseless.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
They can't find a nurse who will help.

Speaker 22 (59:45):
So you know, these laws, even when there's misinformation about
about them, really get in the way of care and
even talking about like count because that's what stands out
in this case.

Speaker 5 (59:57):
With Tiera is that no one was even talking to
her about it. She was trying.

Speaker 22 (01:00:02):
Her family who was with her says she was trying
to ask and advocate for herself and ask, you know,
would it be safer for me to end this pregnancy
so I can be here for my son. And they
feel that she was dismissed and told over and over,
you know, your pregnancy is healthy and we're just going
to work on getting your health under control. But her

(01:00:23):
health never got under control, and at twenty weeks she
died of pre eclampsia.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Yeah, and they I mean, and again, this woman's dead.
And let's be real clear, Texas Republican lawmakers, they don't
give a damn.

Speaker 22 (01:00:41):
We always try to reach out to the lawmakers who've
written these laws, and the actually the legislature had made
a small change to the exception in their law this
past year, so we reached out to them to ask,
you know that that exception or the language was not
in a fact when tier Walker's case happened last year.

(01:01:03):
Do they think it would change the outcome for a
patient with similar conditions going into pregnancy again with uncontrolled
blood pressure, diabetes and a seizure disorder.

Speaker 5 (01:01:16):
Have has that is?

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
That?

Speaker 22 (01:01:17):
Is that what they intended with this law, because doctors
who've spoken to us they're not sure if their hospitals
will support them. And you would think it would be
an easy answer to respond to, but we only heard
back from one Democratic States senator who just told us
that she had pushed for a clear health exception, but

(01:01:39):
her Republican colleagues they listened to the far right of
their base that really doesn't want to see any exceptions
in these laws. I think that's something important to point
out that at every step, not just in Texas.

Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
But in other states that have these these laws on.

Speaker 22 (01:01:56):
The books, the anti abortion activists who have basically in
them and supported them, they really fight back against any
effort to create a health a health risk exception there is.
There are exceptions called for the life of the mother,
but they're written in ways that are supposed to be
for emergencies, are extremely narrow and when anyone tries to say,

(01:02:17):
why isn't there one for just a high risk pregnancy.
That's what so many women in America face. They go
into pregnancy with underlying chronic conditions or they may develop
them in pregnancy. They they fought back and they've won.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Questions from the panel. Joy you first, well.

Speaker 15 (01:02:35):
First of all, thank you so much for doing this story.
What is the family planning to do in terms of
a lawsuit?

Speaker 7 (01:02:41):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
Are they going to sue?

Speaker 15 (01:02:42):
Because the counterbalance here has to be malpractice suits that
are levied against these doctors and the healthcare professionals in
hospital to make them give props to say, look, not
only are there these there are these laws, but our
hospital might shut down because of the lawsuits and the.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
Legal fees that we might have to pay because of
these decisions.

Speaker 15 (01:03:01):
So that they will put pressure on their elected officials
to create exceptions that protected them and their patients.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
That's what we will be watching.

Speaker 22 (01:03:12):
The family wants justice, they want accountability, and they've engaged
a lawyer who is looking into filing a lawsuit and
what kind of legal remedies there can be because one
thing people don't think.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
About is that there's often in Texas.

Speaker 22 (01:03:26):
I think I don't know all the specifics, but the
lawyer that they're working with did tell me that there's
extremely strong protections for emergency room doctors. It's a very
high bar, so sometimes even when something wrongdoing has clearly happened,
it can be very hard to sue. But they're going
to try, and they're also you know, there's other remedies.

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
I think if.

Speaker 22 (01:03:51):
The state legislature cared, they could a legislator could file
a complaint with the Texas Medical Board to have them
look into this case and get more clarity so that
something will be watching.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
I do know that there's a number.

Speaker 22 (01:04:05):
Of malpractice cases that are starting to be filed in Texas,
and it will raise the question of have these hospitals
been too afraid of their felony charge that is a
theoretical charge from you know, the state and not worried
enough about their patients and the malpractice that they could

(01:04:26):
become liable for.

Speaker 8 (01:04:29):
That's right for being here.

Speaker 12 (01:04:35):
I'm curious how public is data around issues of maternal
or infant mortality in these states that have abortion ban.
Is there a way do you find that it's more
prominent in particular hospitals or is it particular providers. You
mentioned that one of the subjects had ninety doctors see
her over the course of her hospitalization, So I'm just

(01:04:56):
curious if mothers could potentially protect themselves by accessing data
that shows where this problem is more pronounced, or if
you found that it's more so statewide as opposed to
concentrated in particular areas.

Speaker 22 (01:05:10):
I'm glad you asked that question because that's one of
the reasons we started doing this work at pro Publica,
and you can read a lot more of it at
our website ProPublica dot org, because we learned that, yes,
while states do have maternal mortality review committees, they were
there years behind, often in their reports, and they often

(01:05:31):
don't report in a kind of granular detail that could
be helpful for people and making decisions about their care,
like you say, and they're not looking specifically into the
impact of these very laws that their state legislators passed,
which are some of the biggest changes to maternal health
policy in fifty years.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
They're not looking into that. In fact, in.

Speaker 22 (01:05:55):
Texas, they specifically by statute, are barred from reviewing any
case that involves an abortion procedure, and that can even
be for a miscarriage that just use a procedure that
they associate with abortion. They're just not going to even
look at that case, which is really leaves out an

(01:06:15):
important part of the picture. So that's why we have
started to do this kind of painstaking work where we
try to go and get the death records, autopsy records.
In some states like Texas, that's going county by county to.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
Request records, and it's only a sever of them, if
not the full data.

Speaker 22 (01:06:33):
And then we reach out to families and we try
to ask if we can look at the case more closely,
get hospital records with their help, and then review them
with experts. And so even some families just don't want
to look into that. So we only are seeing a
small slice of these cases. But I think one of
the cases that currently had a malpractice case that I

(01:06:56):
referenced earlier, where an anesthesiologist wouldn't participate in her care.
This woman ended up getting an advocacy organization called if
When How Too, to call the hospital on her behalf
and threaten legal action, and that's how she ultimately got
this life saving abortion, according to the complaint in her lawsuit.

(01:07:17):
So yes, we do have a guide on our website
at ProPublica dot org that's about some of the questions
that patients who live in these states can ask their
medical providers and what they can try to do to
know if a hospital provides or a provider would provide
a DNC for example, if or a DNA, and what

(01:07:37):
their policies are. But it puts so much on the
patient to have to try to coordinate their own care.
That is a really unfair outcome of this law. And
I think the most chilling thing I've heard from some
doctors when I've tried to ask them, what advice would
you give a patient if they if they're pregnant and
they're they're not sure if the hospital will provide them

(01:08:00):
care if they end up having complications in pregnancy, and
what can they do. What can they say They've told
me is very you know, bluntly that they would tell
them to go to a different state, which is just
not an answer for a lot of people. Tiara Walker
was in the hospital for most of her pregnancy, so

(01:08:22):
the idea of even you know, finance beyond financially but
just her medical condition to go and continue her pregnancy
another state or into pregnancy another state was really out
of reach.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
All right then, folks, this is the story right here,
taking time bomb. A pregnant mother kept getting sicker. She
died after she couldn't get an abortion in Texas. Kavida
Serena Lizzie Presser for their reporters on that, and so
we appreciate it, Thank you so very much.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
A great story, and thanks for the coverage.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 22 (01:08:59):
And like I said, we have a lot of resources
and more reporting on this important topic and data Republica.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
All right, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
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Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
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Now everything is anti woke.

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Creative versus ALLNUS and maybe the most important and our
reaching first Amendment, that is freedom of speech case of

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our tech.

Speaker 9 (01:11:01):
It could, depending on.

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How the court rules, opened the door for a return
of Jim pro segregation laws.

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If you say we can discriminate against one, you're saying
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Network, Hatred on the Streets, a horrific scene a white
nationalists rally that descended into deadly violence.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Well, white people are moving their their minds.

Speaker 20 (01:11:34):
As a mangry pro Trump mode storms in the US capital.

Speaker 7 (01:11:38):
The show we're.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
About to see the lives what I call white minority resistance.
We have seen white folks in this country who simply
cannot tolerate black folks voting.

Speaker 17 (01:11:48):
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of
violent denial.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
This is part of American history.

Speaker 10 (01:11:55):
Every time that people of color and the progress, whether
real or like, there has been what Carold Anderson every
university calls white rage as a backlash.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Says the wife of the Proud Boys and the Boogaaloo Boys, America.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
There's going to be more of this all.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and
its attitudes because of the fear of white people.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
The few that they're taking our jobs, they're taking out resources, they're.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Taking out women. This is white Field.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
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Speaker 12 (01:12:44):
If I fi DC, Hey, what's up with Sammy Roman?

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And you are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Gods?

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
I'm Adjustment Crockett. You're in the House Judiciary Committee went
off on the twice in page primely convicted Felon InChI
Donald Trump Watch.

Speaker 24 (01:13:18):
Since January, Donald Trump has used the full power of
the federal government to attack Americans and cities across the
country and Donald Trump's America. You are at increased risk
of experiencing militaristic operations in your home. Increase risk of
being subject to detainment by mass thugs and want to

(01:13:38):
be vigilantes. Increase risk of suffering injuries due to reckless
and illegal acts by rogue federal agents, increased risk of
being deported to foreign nations. Even if you are an
American citizen, and you're at an increased risk of being
targeted by federal government for criticizing the president and his friends,
Congressional Republicans have come completely abandoned their Article I powers

(01:14:02):
and have exchanged their responsibility to their constituents with fealty
to the president. They have allowed the president to more
federal agencies into instruments of autocracy, and as a result,
the president has been able to ignore federal law, disregard
court orders, and implement the largest pay for play scheme
in American history. The White House, well what's left of it, anyway,

(01:14:23):
is literally up for sale. The federal courts have characterized
its presidency as quote lawless. In fact, when ruling against
illegal acts committed by the administration, a Republican appointed federal
judge stated, quote, the court cannot imagine how the public
interests might be served by permitting federal officials to flaun
the very laws they have sworn to enforce. In a

(01:14:46):
separate case where the administration was sued for unlawful acts,
the judge, also a Republican, appointees stated quote, allowing constitutional
rights to be dependent upon the grace of the executive
branch would be a dereliction of duty by this third
and independent branch of government and would be against the

(01:15:06):
public interest. But in another case, the Court summed it
up perfectly by declaring quote as is becoming far too common.
We are confronted again with the efforts of the executive
branch to set aside the rule of law in pursuit
of its own goals. Judiciary Committee Republicans have been completely
complicit in this corruption. But since they're so interested in

(01:15:29):
restoring law and order, I have a couple of suggestions
on where they can start. Number One, this is the
President of the United States standing beside his best friend,
Jeffrey Epstein. As we all know, mister Epstein is one
of the most notorious sexual predators in American history. For
eight weeks, the Republicans on this committee have chosen to

(01:15:49):
protect these two men instead of providing justice to mister
Epstein's victims. Now the administration is panicking. First they campaigned
on releasing the Epstein. Then ag Bondi and associates did
a photo op with the files and she said, and
I quote, the Epstein list is on my desk. Then

(01:16:11):
somehow the Epstein.

Speaker 8 (01:16:13):
List didn't exist.

Speaker 24 (01:16:15):
Then the Epstein files became a Democratic hoax. Now the
President is supposedly supportive of releasing the files, even though
he's currently ignoring a congressional subpoena to do so. Now
the President is simply crashing out, and it's because he
can't seem to explain his special decades long relationship with
one of the most prominent sexual predators in American history.

(01:16:38):
It's already public that he's in the Epstein files, but
his administration is hiding the context of his involvement, if any,
with mister Epstein's horrific crimes. Now this is miss Galaine Maxwell,
Miss Maxwell who obviously helped Jeffrey Epstein traffic more than

(01:17:00):
one thousand women and girls. While Donald Trump is now
giving her special treatment while she's serving out her prison sentence.
He won't even rule out giving her a pardon or
commuting her sentence. I don't need to explain why pardoning
sex traffickers wouldn't be restoring law and order. Now this
is Secretary of Homeland Security Christy Nome. Not only has

(01:17:25):
Secretary Nome been busy filming propaganda ads. She's also been
busy in cashing in on millions of taxpayer dollars. In fact,
Secretary Nome has funneled millions of dollars to a company
called The Strategy Group. The Strategy Group helps Secretary Nome
win her campaign to become the governor of South Dakota.
Corey Lewandowski, her top policy advisor, has worked with the firm,

(01:17:50):
and the company CEO is married to Secretary nomes chief spokesperson,
missus Tricia McLoughlin. This is what corruption looks like. They're
still money from the American people's pockets and depositing it
into their bank accounts. Now we move on to get
somebody else. This is the so called Border Czar Tom Homan.

(01:18:12):
Mister Homan is on tape accepting fifty thousand dollars in
cash bribes stuffed in a brown paper bag from an
undercover FBI agent. Apparently, mister Holman accepted these bribes in
exchange for awarding federal contracts to his friends. Trump's Department
of Justice killed the investigation into mister Holman's crimes, and
Congressional Republicans didn't say a mumbling word Lastly, this is

(01:18:38):
insurrectionist and Nazi sympathizer Ed Martin. It appears that mister
Martin is functioning as the Associate Deputy Attorney, General, Partner Attorney,
director of the Fake Weaponization Working Group, and special attorney
for mortgage fraud. All that means is that mister Martin
is Trump's lapdog, whom the President sends to initiate lawsuits

(01:18:59):
against the presidents perceived political opponents. This is what we
call organized crime. They're breaking the law, often by stealing
taxpayer dollars, covering up their crimes by ending and obstructing investigations,
then prosecuting people who call out their unlawful behavior. And
while the Republicans are encouraging this corruption, they're abandoning actual

(01:19:20):
victims of violent crime and ignoring the Republican led state's
twenty first century murder crisis. In September's appropriation markup, Congressional
Republicans propose reducing the FBI's staff by thousands of positions
and underfunding the agency by more than one billion. They've
proposed slashing resources from the ATF. They've proposed cutting grants

(01:19:43):
for juvenile justice programs and hate crimes, and eliminating the
community violence intervention and prevention grants. They're literally defunding the police.
So no matter what they say at today's hearing, Congressional
Republicans have proven that they are not investing in keeping
American communities safe from violent crime. Mister chairman, I go back.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
No, It's hilarious sitting there listening to congress Wood Crockett
talk about corruption reci and Dan Bongino, you know, the
one who got a pass when it came to being vetted.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
He actually put this tweet out.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Today, public corruption will not be tolerated.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Come on, come on, let's tweet. Come on, public crush
will not be tolerated. I'm laughing because Donald Trump has
pardoned a number.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Of people who were convicted of public corruption. So I'm like,
it ain't no shock they let Tom Homan off the
hook for taking that fifty grand.

Speaker 8 (01:20:47):
Nald Trump is a convicted felon.

Speaker 12 (01:20:49):
Let's also remind people that, so he is the epitome
of corruption. He's been civilly also convicted in order to
pay tens of millions of dollars for fraudulent business activities.

Speaker 8 (01:21:01):
So he is the epitome of corrupt.

Speaker 12 (01:21:05):
And as Congressman Crockett pointed out, I mean it's like,
my boss, this is a shakedown half the time. So
I think Dan Bongino, I think he maybe is trying
to distract from the fact that he was one of
the people calling for the f stein oles before he
became undeservedly so the deputy FBI director.

Speaker 8 (01:21:22):
But nobody believes anything. You got to say, Dan, Okay, So.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
By my.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
I just sit here, Joey and I mean, first of all,
let's just re real clear. Donald Trump is completely, undoubtedly,
absolutely undeniably corrupt.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
He is under I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
So they are pimping, they are pimping the White House.
This is this is like telling hey, Bonnie and Clyde,
we're gonna hire you all to be a bank manager.
I mean that's easy, Like that's literally. I mean what
these fools are doing, the selling of access, the pimping,

(01:22:10):
the deals being cut. You can buy this dude off.
There is no announcement, There is no announcement made out
of his mouth where I don't instantly think he got
a check somebody paid him.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
He is selling pardons. Damn what he's selling partons.

Speaker 15 (01:22:33):
He's absolutely selling purdons. And then when he can't sell it.
He just doesn't prosecute at all. He undoes things that
were already in progress for his friends.

Speaker 4 (01:22:45):
And then when they pointed out they said, you know
what this.

Speaker 15 (01:22:47):
Person invested in your company or this person has a
personal relationship with someone who has a financial interest in
your company, he says, oh, well, a lot of people
like them, as if that's a legal standard.

Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
This man is corrupt. Birds of a feather flock together.

Speaker 15 (01:23:00):
And you know, I was listening, like, why is he
just being so open about it? I personally think he's
being open about it because it serves two purposes. One
it lines his pockets. But the other thing is it
distracts us. All right, so now we have to talk
about it, and we should, right, but it hides whatever
else corrupt he's doing.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Down the line.

Speaker 15 (01:23:19):
Moreover, I think just things aren't working together on policy.
The economy as we began the show, the economy.

Speaker 8 (01:23:26):
Is doing poorly.

Speaker 15 (01:23:29):
His tariff policies aren't going the way he wants them
to go, unless he tries to buy people right where
where they give him, like the Swiss did give him
a watch, or give him a gold bar, or give
him something right and then and also like his immigration
policies are hated all around. He's seeing failure after failure.
Governing is harder than it's ever been. And he's his

(01:23:52):
foreign policies are not the success that he purports them
to be.

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
And so he's going back to what he knows.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
What he knows.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Look, he wants to be a dictator. He does wants
to be a dictator. Now, federal judges rule that yes,
is ordered have National Guard in DC was unlawful. More,
federal judges are really against him. And so this is
somebody who is absolutely, beyond a doubt idiotic.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
And so and we're seeing what happens when.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
You put someone who has no morals, no values, no principles,
no ethics, in a position of authority. Greg card Jones
right now, and Greg, what Connie's Roman Crockett laid out, Like, Yeah,
we're dealing with a dictator. We're dealing with somebody who
loves dictators, and we're dealing with the thug. He is
the thug in chief. He is a corrupt thug. That's

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who Donald Trump is and MAGA for every day they
suck up to him, all this doing is just lining
his pockets. And he don't give a damn about none
of them broke asses.

Speaker 9 (01:25:00):
He does not.

Speaker 17 (01:25:01):
And forgive me for being late and for the lighting.
I'm here in Philadelphia, the black male educator convening all
man a room, one thousand educators from all over the country,
mostly black men. And if I got stopped one time,
I got stopped three hundred times today to tell you
that the Black Star Network must succeed. And all these
people watching, so some of that someone went back to
the hotel rooms and watch that.

Speaker 9 (01:25:22):
I had to have to give you that message first
of all.

Speaker 17 (01:25:25):
Anyway, you know so, But yes, Congresswoman Crockett is really
showing the way. Keep your foot on his neck, you know,
as you've been laying out now for months, and certainly
we're seeing it now.

Speaker 9 (01:25:36):
I think he may have peaked, as you say.

Speaker 17 (01:25:38):
The judges are pushing back now, whether it be Utah,
whether it be district and state judges, whether it be
his person in Virginia and in New York. We're in
trouble now, is he's Federal judges say you weren't even
appointed and wait a minute, wait, you're filing claims to
the grand jury and you didn't even give them the
true Bill, so he may have peaked this stunt he

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pulled with Mohammad Ben Solomon this week in the White House.
When approached about the journalist Jamel, the show gets to say, Hey,
a lot of people didn't like him and things happened.

Speaker 9 (01:26:10):
Donald Trump, we know is mentally ill. You know he's
not well.

Speaker 17 (01:26:12):
But what Congresswoman Crockett is doing now is pressing the advantage.
If we had some more people to follow her lead
and join her, I think you would see a very
big sea change. We certainly saw it with Thomas Massey
and Rocanna and the four who would not be shaken,
who decided to go ahead on the Republican side and
move toward getting this getting the EPSTEM files released. I

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don't expect they're going to be released. I don't expect
they're going to be released. But you saw not only
was only the one congress person, that crazy Clay Higgins
that you've been roasting, vote not to release them, but
the following day they then voted unanimously Senate in the
House Representatives to say, oh, and that money you're trying
to steal half a million dollar floor, You're gonna stop

(01:26:54):
doing that.

Speaker 9 (01:26:54):
Everybody had to vote against that.

Speaker 17 (01:26:57):
What Jasmine Crockett is doing, what Representative crocket is doing,
is basically delivering a playbook from the House of Representatives
on how to speak truth to power and to be fearless.
Between what she's doing and what you know appears like
Gavin Newson is doing in California. I think this is
what turns the tide as this thing has. I really
do believe it's beginning to peak.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Indeed, indeed, we got some breaking news. Fuji's rapper PRIs
Michelle fourteen years in federal prison. He was a sentenced
today in a court in DC. This is the Associated

(01:27:38):
Press story right here. He of course, since the fourteen
years in prison over in legal donations of the Obama campaign.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
The story lays out right here that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
He declined to address the court before he was being sentenced.
In April twenty twenty three, he was convicted of ten counts,
including conspiracy and act as an unregistered agent foreign government.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Of course, a number.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Of people testified in that trial, including Leonardo DiCaprio, as
well as form Attorney General Jeff Session, Justice Department prosecutors
of this is the ap story, said Thoreral of sentencing guidelines,
recommended a life sentence for Michelle, whom they said, quote
betrayed his country for money and lied unapologetically and unrelentingly
to carry out his scheme. His Senate should reflect the

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breadth and depth of his crimes, his indifference to the
risk to his country, and the magnitude of his greed.
His attorneys said the fourteen year prison sentence was quote
completely disproportioned to the offense. He is going to appeal
his conviction. His defense attorney recommended a three year prison
sentence as well. So again, of course, one of the

(01:28:49):
finals of the fujis prose Michelle sentence fourteen years in prison.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
Hey, there's a way to get out now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
Granted he was a sentenced for trying to fuck donations
to Obama, but trust me, we know how Trump works.
He'll gladly take three four five million dollars. Check the
issue of pardon. So we'll see what happens here. And
so that all y'all were hoping for a Foojisus World tour.
Remember when they call that tour off. I was like,

(01:29:19):
that may not happen. Ever again that is the case.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Now all right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Let me actually, I want to go to a break,
I'll talk about the story here. A federal judges ordered
Alabama to use a new state Senate map in the
upcoming twenty twenty six elections, ruling that the current districts
illegally dilute the voting power of black residents. In Montgomery
US District, Judge Anna Monosco, a Trump appointee, found that
the state violated the Voting Rights Act by packing black

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voters into Senate District twenty six, limiting their influence elsewhere.
The new court selected map unpacks District twenty six by
by redistributing some black voters into the adjacent District twenty five.
State Senator's Kirk a Democrat, and Will Barfoot, the Republican,
currently represent these districts governing the Kivy declined to call
in a special legislative session to redraw the map, leaving

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the court to impose a new plan of This change
shifts vot demographics in the area and is not expected
to affect the Republican's super majority in the Alabama Senate.
In North Carolina, and a three judge pay on North
Carolina recently heard arguments regarding in lawsuit challenging the state's
new congressional maps. The lawsuit of leaders and Republican lawmakers

(01:30:28):
redrew the district lines to dilute black voting power, specifically
by dividing a long standing black opportunity district in eastern
North Carolina. That's the one Don Davis has in order
to secure an additional gop se. Deborah Dix Maxwell, president
of the North Carolina NAACP, highlighted the urgency of advocating
for the ful PAVLC representation. Legal experts indicate that the

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playlifts will need to demonstrate intentional racial bias in the
process of drawing the maps, but the candidate filing deadline
approaching to December first, a court ruling is expected soon.
Greg I won back to the Alabama Senate matter, and
this is what I kept trying to explain to people

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why that Louisiana case is so important. And if the
Supreme Court rules in favor of the plaintiffs and they
say race can't be used, what.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
That is going to unleash.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
It is going to unleash potentially twelve of to thirty
CBC and Latino seats wiped out.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
But it's gonna then be cascading downwards.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
It's gonna impact state races as well local races.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
And we're seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Right here in Alabama again federal judges and a Supreme
Court rule creating the opportunity district that Samari figures is in.
Now you're talking about this right here, we look, the
super majority in Mississippi was broken because the federal judge
rule that black folks were being screwed over. So the
reality is that black power in the South is on

(01:32:06):
the precipice of being wiped out because these right wingers
want to destroy Section two of the nineteen sixty five
Voting Whites Act.

Speaker 9 (01:32:16):
Now they absolutely do.

Speaker 17 (01:32:18):
But you know, it is interesting and in Roland, none
of this is written in stone.

Speaker 9 (01:32:22):
None of it is written in stone.

Speaker 17 (01:32:24):
Certainly, it's very encouraging to see the three judge panel
in Texas, as you've been reporting, say that this is
a racial jerry mander. Of course, it's now going to
go directly to Supreme Court because in those instances you
have two district court judges and one Appeals court judge
that make those rulings when it comes to an issue
like jerry mander, and it's going.

Speaker 9 (01:32:43):
To go straight to the Supreme Court.

Speaker 17 (01:32:45):
But of course the fact that you had both a
Trump appointee and a Reagan appointee is two of the
three judges in Texas, really gives some encouragement. And the
fact that this is a Trump appointee in Alabama, they
sends a message all of those judges that Trump appointed,
he didn't know any of their names. He wouldn't pick

(01:33:05):
them out of a lineup. He was given lists by
the Federal Society. And that should give us a little
bit of encouragement, because these are judges that have been
vetted by that right wing think tank, that right wing,
nasty piece of work, Leo and his crew. So for
them to say this, it may very well be signaling

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that they've taken and gone a bridge too far.

Speaker 9 (01:33:30):
Now, certainly we don't.

Speaker 17 (01:33:30):
Hold out out a whole lot of hope for the
Mada six on the Supreme Court as it relates to
the case you're saying, the Supreme Court Jerrymander case it
is now before the court.

Speaker 9 (01:33:39):
However, the Louisiana case Kalaise. However, it could very well be.

Speaker 17 (01:33:45):
That they may apply the breaks, if for no other
reason that if you completely destroy Section two of the
Veterank sept from nineteen sixty five. They've got to know
that this may very well become an issue in the
midterm elections, and it would come. It would come an
issue that could ultimately lead if the Democrats can capture
the House, capture the Senate, and capture the presidency two

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years later to expanding the number of people on the Court.
I think if we look back in two years and
see such a thing again to get in the pipeline,
a great deal of it will be because what of
what is these these these uh, these decisions that are
coming out now, and we got to wait on the
Supreme Court. But I tell you, man, I think they
may be now signaling that it might be better to

(01:34:30):
compromise with these black folk and compromise on some of
this stuff, then go so hard in the paint that
the white lash and the backlash leads to them losing everything.

Speaker 9 (01:34:42):
So it's Varians and development today.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
Again.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
What it goes to show you is they want to
go after I can't send this enough reasons for people
who don't get it. They want to go after everything black,
and people need to wake up and understand what's going on.
They understand that if you attack and eradicate black political power,

(01:35:07):
you're impacting black economic power, you're impacting in education, nonprofit.
It cascades all the way. So there's a reason that
we are being targeted.

Speaker 12 (01:35:19):
Well, absolutely there is, and we've always been in the
bulls eye. But I think to doctor Carr's point, they
recognize that we are at a precipice where they can
go walls to the walls, all the way off the
deep end, but doing so at a time of great
economic peril, with great dissatisfaction and disillusionment within the country
could backfire in very violent ways that I don't think

(01:35:41):
that they're prepared for. I think that some of the
people in this administration, by moving into military officer housing
that they have no business being in, it's kind of
anticipating a bigger response to their policies and the results
of the things that they're putting in motion. I don't
think that the judges are quite prepared to go that far.

(01:36:02):
So we'll see whether or not these judges to the
Supreme Court are prepared to go all in with the
circumstances that we're in now. My inkling is that they
might understand that preserving if we're talking about one black head,
one black head a couple of blacks just DONLTD twelve

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blacks stay in Congress and keep people just a little
bit more call a little bit more chill, versus going
all the way over on the other side, where people
realize like, well, hey, I don't actually have citizenship, I
don't actually have the ability to influence who has power
over the area that I occupy.

Speaker 8 (01:36:43):
So maybe I have to go about this a different way.

Speaker 12 (01:36:45):
And I don't think that anybody wants that, and I've
been saying for years that I certainly don't want that.

Speaker 9 (01:36:56):
Boy.

Speaker 15 (01:36:58):
You know, one of the other concerns here is that,
you know, it's hard to say that this isn't racially
motivated and this is just about party politics. When you're
seeing Granford racism within the Republican Party and that they're
putting it online and they're putting it in text, and
then they're saying it in speeches, it's really hard to
say that. I mean, there's a record here of motivations,

(01:37:19):
and so no matter what they might, you know, say
in polite company, we understand what's being said, you know,
really for the record, for us all to see. And
many judges don't want to be a part of that.
I think there's also a real concern that we are
under a threat to our democracy and that there have
to be checks and balances, and that when you vest

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in all one party and you allow one party to
completely take you know, take over, that what you do
is you create a scenario where what's good for the
goose is good for the gander. So next time you
can see Democrats doing the exact same thing and courts
having to uphold it because that's been the law before.
So I do think that there are there are some real,

(01:38:01):
you know, concerns here that a court must look at.
By and large, this court has also been hesitant to
disadvantage black people in terms of redistricting directly right, There
does seem to be some hesitancy by by the court
to do that. And so we'll see that with us,
you know, this traditional group, when they're seeing that there

(01:38:23):
is a real targeting of us, that there might be
some pause. Certainly we've seen it at the federal excuse me,
the lower court level. I think that hopefully we will
have a better outcome than we've seen in the past
at the Supreme Court level. But Republicans should know that
whatever happens, that they're able to do Democrats will be

(01:38:44):
able to do the same, and we do not want,
as reci said, you know this kind of pendulum swing.
And I think that they are anticipating that people are
going to be very upset about this. The grab card
said is not a fatal complete. You got to vote
in the fall.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
That's what we always say constantly. Quick break, we come
back in marketplace right here. Roland Martin unfiltered on the
Blackstone Network.

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It's really about you know, the house feeling warm and
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Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
All right? Thanksgiving us next week.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
But y'ah, I know Christmas stuff is already out tonight.
We have some holiday cheer with Christmas in the color.
Becky Goodlow, the creative owner behind this vibrant brand.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
Offers culturally inspired the core that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Brings warmth join representation to your celebrations. Becky joins us
from Atlanta. Becky, how you doing one?

Speaker 14 (01:41:01):
I'm good? How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
Doing great? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
So how did this whole thing start? How did you
start with doing Christmas decorations?

Speaker 14 (01:41:10):
So we started the company in twenty ten, so it's
been fifteen years. And we started because we couldn't find
any decorations for our own house that had brown skin.
And we had two nutcrackers, actually three foot tall nutcrackers
that were a gift from a friend of my parents,

(01:41:32):
and we had them in our Christmas card photos for
a couple of years in a row, and every year
people would call us and say, where'd you get those?
Where'd you get those, and so we thought, well, maybe
we should be stelling them. So that's how we started,
was with the idea of helping other black families have
decorations that look like them.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
All right, so we look at these decorations that I'm
moving them actually over here. So you got so, first
of all, let's make sure MiG and Kelly don't see
this segment because you know, she thinks, uh she said
Santa was undeniably white. Uh so this this here probably
drive her ass crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
Uh seeing the black Santa. Uh, but you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
Got the snow glow here. Uh, we got the black Santa,
we got some angels.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
Uh, so what else we got? So? Uh? Who these brothers?

Speaker 14 (01:42:17):
Did you notice the black Santa? There's one black Santa.
I don't know if you have that one.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
Hold on this when I got here, and let's see
what is it? What his name? Let's see here? Hold up,
he got names on here. He's holding the bag. Uh.
And he's holding the Texas A and them bag. Yeah.
So uh in that bag.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
In that bag, he's carrying all of the Texas Longhorn
players who we're gonna beat next Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
Matt Manning is in here as well. Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
Of course, Matt's gonna be sicken when we beat them
down in Austin.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
Uh So that's that's cool Santa right there. All right?

Speaker 14 (01:42:56):
Then, yeah, I just have to let you know my
husband is a longhorn, so he said to say.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Hi, well, he's been used to losing this year, so
the only only saving grace for him. He's a alpha,
but that's the only saving grace. So he know he
gonna get a.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
Text from me next Friday after we beat that behind.
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
So we started this in two thy and ten and
has just been methodically growing every year.

Speaker 19 (01:43:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:43:26):
So what was interesting was in twenty ten you could
barely find anything. Like every major store like a Macy's
or a Target would have one or two things, but
there was no place you could go to have a
selection of items. And we would approach the major companies
and every year and say, hey, would you make some

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nutcrackers or angels with brown skin? And the response at
first was no, because we'll lose money, and so they
had no interest in that, and I guess at some
point they figured out that they could make money because
now a whole lot of those big companies are making
the same things that I've been saying.

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
Yeah because of me, because but see, well, first of all,
let's just be real clear. America has always been defined
by whiteness, and what they've always done is force us
to accept that. And that's but again, when you got
Iggan ass people like Megan Kelly who will say, okay, kids,
deal with it. Santra's white. I mean, that's their whole deal.
So this idea that having a culturally representative of Santa matters.

Speaker 1 (01:44:29):
Look, my grandmother that the catering.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
Business, and my mama did cakes and used to actually,
my mama would paint the bridle.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
Tops because they were always white.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
It's like, give me that, give me that brown, paint this,
paint this sucker here, because again, black folks wanted that.
They didn't want some white woman, some white dude on
top of their cake.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
Right.

Speaker 14 (01:44:53):
So here's a great story. The first year that we
ordered nutcrackers from a company that was willing to work
with us and make ones with brown skin. We picked
the white ones that they had on display and we said,
you know, make these with brown skin. And you know,
we we figured out the hair color all that, and
then when we got them in the mail and these
are boxes and boxes rolling. All of them had blue eyes.

(01:45:15):
Oh hell no, didn't even occur to us that they
wouldn't change the eye color.

Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
Wow, So.

Speaker 4 (01:45:22):
I actually.

Speaker 14 (01:45:25):
Right, well, who I mean, there are black folks with
blue eyes, but the us right. So I had to
learn how to paint eyes for that first batch because
I thought I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
You know.

Speaker 14 (01:45:40):
At first we were like, oh, we could sell these
and then the next order, but there's no way, like,
so I had to learn.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
Sit there, Yeah, how you paint?

Speaker 14 (01:45:49):
Oh, I would say that first order, which wasn't huge,
but it would still I would say, probably over five hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
I bet you were sitting there, like, God, paint, but
you were cussing every little bitted like I gotta pay.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
It's one of the Yeah, I understand.

Speaker 8 (01:46:05):
It was a lot.

Speaker 14 (01:46:06):
It was a lot, of course, you know. Then we
got it together and the vendor was great. I mean
it was great to find a vendor who didn't want
me to buy thousands at first, so I could just
get a few hundred at a time and you know,
and grow that way. So it's been great.

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
I'm sure Greg Carr is looking forward to enough crackers
with Dashiki.

Speaker 9 (01:46:26):
You're not too far off. You're not too far off.

Speaker 17 (01:46:29):
But I must say, Sister good Law, I was very
happy looking at the website to see Tuskee Tennessee State,
NOMA matter Howard fam Jackson State, Southern Grambling.

Speaker 9 (01:46:41):
Can I ask you a quick question on licensing?

Speaker 17 (01:46:43):
I know it's very popular now, particularly among young people
like my students.

Speaker 9 (01:46:46):
Now they're all going into business.

Speaker 17 (01:46:48):
Our good brother Lanny Smith that actively black was able
to get the licensing agreement to do a lot of
the hood each from a SBC's. But to see that
many HBCUs represented in the ornaments, did you have to
work some a licensing agreement out, not just with the
HBCUs obviously, but with.

Speaker 9 (01:47:03):
The other schools as well to use the logos?

Speaker 14 (01:47:06):
Now? So I worked with Santa's Workshop, which is a
company that got the licenses that allowed me, not because
it's you know, they're expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
Yeah, So what you did?

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
You went, You went when a company that already had
those very license You did deal.

Speaker 14 (01:47:22):
With them, right, and then I did a deal with them?

Speaker 1 (01:47:25):
Makes sense? Makes sense?

Speaker 12 (01:47:26):
Racing These ornaments are beautiful. I didn't know that nutcrackers
have blue.

Speaker 8 (01:47:33):
Eyes because I only buy black stuff for my house.

Speaker 12 (01:47:37):
So I'm curious what kind of stuff do you have
for girls and for the ladies in terms of.

Speaker 14 (01:47:43):
Your products, So that's always a great.

Speaker 8 (01:47:46):
Fine in terms of like female Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:47:49):
Yes, so I have we have a couple of female nutcrackers.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
What you look about Miss Santa a Missus club?

Speaker 14 (01:47:59):
I have a Missus club and I have a couple
of female nutcrackers. I also have a lot of ornaments
for little girls, especially ballerinas, so I have because of
the nutcracker of the ballet. You have a lot of
dancers from the ballet, So I have lots of sets
of ornaments of little girls.

Speaker 8 (01:48:17):
Perfect.

Speaker 15 (01:48:18):
Thank you, all right, joy, I love this, and you
know I want to know a couple of things. One,
just be safe for us where we can buy all
of your products and we can see some of those
products with women and all the diversity on there. The
other thing is are there any major stores that have

(01:48:38):
offered to put you on their shelves. I know that
I remember, you know, Anthropology sometimes had some things with
you know, African American products for Christmas. I don't see
any yet. They need to be calling.

Speaker 14 (01:48:52):
You, well, thank you. You can find everything that I
carry my website, which is Christmasincolor dot com. And that
shows all of I have I think over one hundred
and forty products, so that way you can see all
of them. It's hard to show all of them at once,
but I just I went with just a sample so

(01:49:14):
that you could see the different kinds. And then in
terms of going into stores, it's tough. I've done some
local things, but it's to do sort of a major
thing at this point because there are so many companies
now that are doing it themselves. I'm not sure they
need me at this point. And I know that sounds odd,
but the product is out there, like for an anthropology

(01:49:36):
to get, they just have to know it exists.

Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
Gotcha? Gotcha? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
Then, well, listen, folks, if y'all want to check out
all of the products, simply go to shop blackstartnetwork dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:49:50):
You will see these. Listen, y'all getting stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
Look, you got angels and claws and misclaus, you got
get the lantern right here, the nutcracker. This is absolutely fantastic.
Y'all know, we absolutely believe in supporting black owned businesses
and so what Becky is doing here is phenomenal. And
so again, go to shop Blackstartnetwork dot com shop Blackstartnetwork

(01:50:15):
dot com to check it all out. We have them
right there on the website, Christmas in.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
Color and so and men.

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
In fact, y'all give y'all can actually make this actually
a Christmas gift for somebody else, and so y'all can
hook them up. Soll y'all should go to the site
now buy the stuff down. So when y'all getting ready
for Thanksgiving, some of y'all can be putting up y'all
trees the next day on the weekend Boom, you can
already crack all your stuff out and get ready for

(01:50:43):
the Christmas season.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
Becky anything else.

Speaker 14 (01:50:47):
I just wanted to say thank you for having me
and also thank you for doing this segment because there's
so many people who do want to shop with black businesses.
So it's nice to have a place to go to
to have actually a huge list of companies that are
owned by black folks.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
Well that's why we look. We started this from the beginning,
and when we launched this show, we always had a
marketplace segment to feature black owned businesses, and so that's why.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
We're doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
And that's the difference when you own it versus when
you working for somebody else.

Speaker 14 (01:51:21):
That's right, all right, that's right, Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:51:23):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
Thanks a lot, And tell your husband saw horns off.

Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
Saw horns off.

Speaker 14 (01:51:31):
But I will pass that a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
Greg.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
He's a fellow alpha, but I want him to be
any I want him to be an immense pain the
day of the Thanksgiving.

Speaker 17 (01:51:42):
So y'all choose violence, man, y'all be choosing violence down
there in Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, saw horns off absolutely, So that's
how we do it, all right, beg.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
It, thanks a lot, Thank you, take care all right.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
Then that's it for us. I know it's some somebody
to get to, y'all. I still ain't dealt with that
racist Nick Fointest. We just had so much other stuff,
but that big and he's gonna be there for quite
some time any damn way, so we'll deal with him.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
So we'll deal with that. So Greg, tell us more
about the conference.

Speaker 5 (01:52:18):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
I'm trying to remember because I speak at that college
before I was going through my stuff and I know
I have I spoke at a Black educators conference. I
don't I'm trying to think. Did I speak at the
Black Male Educations? Not sure, but go ahead, No, I
don't think so.

Speaker 17 (01:52:31):
The Center for Black Educated Development, good brother, Sharif el
Mecki here in Philadelphia, this conference I forget now maybe
in like fourteenth year, but now over a thousand folks,
I mean, maybe closer to two thousand. Convenent the Lowes's
Hotel here in downtown Philadelphia, women, men, but mostly male
educators and young people too.

Speaker 9 (01:52:51):
A lot of young people here under thirty.

Speaker 17 (01:52:53):
Tonight I was on a panel with a Kamika Royal
and Sharif Cheney, a man Ivery Tolsten, who is our frat,
the editor of the General Legal Education, talking about black education.
Doctor Leslie Fenwick talked about her book Jim Crow's Pink Slip,
which we talked about on the Black Table. A lot
of educators here, man, and it's about recruiting more young
people to be educators. So in fact, this is their theme.

(01:53:18):
We need black teachers. This is the this is the mantra.
In fact, Rowland, like I said, I've been going a
million miles a minute, but I saw a couple of
the cats who teach the ap African American Studies course
around the country. The last time I saw them was
actually when we did the Black Table session and they're like,
we're gonna do Black Table again. I was like, Roland
been telling me, man, we gotta do He said, we
gotta come together. So I'm gonna schedule them and we're

(01:53:40):
gonna do another session with them. The APF makes say
his teachers. But man, I tell you everybody here they
like tell rolling Black Star Network is what we need.
We're all supporters. We watch some of them watching right now.
I guarantee you so it's an annual thing next year. Man,
we gotta get you up here. It's always right before
weekend before Thanksgiving here in Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
All right, all right, well let us know, we'll think
about it. Receive what you gotta come up on Saturday.

Speaker 8 (01:54:09):
We'll see.

Speaker 12 (01:54:10):
It's a lot going on. But I tell you what
I have coming up every day. My am I Tripper Game.
Am I sounds to my right game?

Speaker 8 (01:54:15):
Since we talk about black people, Yo, what hook it
up for the holidays? Am I Tripping? This is this?
This is the second edition?

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
Got it look like some rice Chrispies. I'm like, what's
the holding up? What?

Speaker 12 (01:54:30):
Ami Trippergame dot com is where you can get my games?
Okay for that holiday fund?

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
All right then all right then, well, Greg Racy joy
I appreciate y'all being on today's show.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
Thank you so very much. Folks.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
That is it for us. It's a whole lot going on.
We will stand on top of this, uh and again
our goal very simple. That is to cover the stories
and the issues that matter to our people. That's what
that's what stands out to us. That's what we do.
It's while we do what we do out here to
ask anybody's opinion, we.

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Asking them permission.

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We're gonna talk about what we want to talk about
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Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
I'll be open those envelopes. So just letting y'all know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
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We got a lot of a lot of things going
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Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
So all that's on here, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
Uh and again we use the black on the company
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That's also for credit cards.

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Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
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All right there, shop Blackstart Network dot com. You see
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a screen shot. Do a screenshot right now of this
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do a screenshot, and I want you all to share
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Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
Come come on, give me a watch shot. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:19):
All right, So do a screenshot. So I want you
how to share this. I want you how to share
this shot. I want you how to share this shot?
Post on social tell people to go to shop blackstartnetwork
dot com. You are supporting black owned businesses. This business
we get a proceed of a sales, so you're supporting
this show. When you bother these products, you're supporting this

(01:58:40):
show and these black owned businesses. We have to be
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resources together, and so.

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Please do that.

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
Don't forget download the app fan base. Also, if you
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Point eight million dollars.

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Speaker 1 (01:59:14):
All right, y'all, that's it. I got to go. I'll
see them all.

Speaker 2 (01:59:17):
Shouts to my cousin Trevor Cobb today's birthday. Uh that's it, folks,
I'll see you all tomorrow. Right here rolling my unfiltered
on the Black Starting Network.

Speaker 1 (01:59:25):
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