Charlie Kirk Attacks Austin Fire Chief, Judge blocks Birthright ruling, FEMA Food Delays

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
But it's Thursday, July ten, twenty twenty five, coming up
of roland markin.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Unfilchrip should be live on the Black Star Network.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
The racist college dropout Charlie Kirk blames the black fire
chief of the Austin Fire Department for the floods that
killed you one hundred folks in Texas, not the white
Republican sheriff and county commissioners who.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Turned down the money for an early warning system. I
got a couple of things to say about that. And
speaking of that, he grossly unqualified.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Ice Barbie Christian Home delayed sending FEMA to Texas because
she had to personally approve them going there.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Really.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Also on today's show, Major Shake Up, a founder of
the National Association of Black Journalists worked to the Washington
Post quits after the paper kept spiking his federal column.
Is the ass kissing at the Washington Post of Trump?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
That series, We'll talk to him about it.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Also, a federal judge in New Hampshire the five Supreme
Court and blocks Donald Trump's executive order targeting birthright citizenship.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
It's a lot I gotta unpacked.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Plus Republicans in Texas continue their racist ways by targeting
the black and Hispanic Congressionative members. They want to redraw
the lines to have more white Republicans in Congress.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
We've seen this before.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
And lastly, the state representian, the wife of Texas Attorney
General Ken Paxton, announce that they're getting divorced. She says,
I'm tired of him being a hole. Always time to
bring the book. I'm rolling button on filching on the
blacksnight did where let's go.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
He's got whatever the he's on it, whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
He's got to school the fact the fine and Winna
believes he's right on time and it's rolling.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Best believe he's going putting it out.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
From Boston news to politics with entertainment, just book keeps.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
He's going, it's rowing out.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
It's rolling Monte Yeah, rolling with rolling. He's book he stress,
she's real the question, No, he's rolling montage.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
All right, folks, These white Republicans, these racist ones. Lord,
they are trying all they can not to blame their
own for the flooding along the Guadeloupe River in Texas
that led to nearly a hundred folks dying, including a
lot of young girls in the Christian camp. But the

(03:26):
person who really is the case for extus a couple
of people. Okay, it's that idiot Jack Probosiac. I can't
pronounce that stupid idiot's name, but it's the racist Charlie Kirk. Now,
Charlie Kirk, let me set this up. That boy ain't
the brightest bulb in a dark room. Okay, kind of

(03:47):
drop out, but loves to question the intellect of black people.
So what he's been doing is suggesting that Joel Baker
to show his photo please Joe Baker, who.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Is the fire chief.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Of the Austin Fire Department, he's been saying that, oh,
this dei hire, it's his fault. Is his fault from
blocking elite rescue teams to travel there. Now in the
Austin Firefight Association accuses the fire chief of yes, blocking

(04:27):
elite rescue teams and what they call an egregious dereliction
of duty. The chief says, that's some bs.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
So here is.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Poor little small brain racist Charlie Kirk with his trash.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
We are in a state of national mourning, as we
should be, and the Democrats are so despicable. The Democrats
are not lifting a finger to rem member the well
over one hundred people that have died in Texas Hill Country.
What you are not being told by the media anywhere
is that the death toll likely would not have been

(05:12):
as high if it wasn't for DEI. This Texas tragedy
is just the latest example. It's not just incompetence. This
is DEI working to undermine meritocratic institutions, and more people
likely died than otherwise would have because of DEI. Let

(05:34):
me prove it to you. In twenty fourteen, the Obama
administration sued the Austin Fire Department about eleven years ago
fire union for supposed racial discrimination, resulting in a settlement.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
So the Obama.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Administration was so worried that the fire department in Austin,
Texas was racist, because you know, when you're putting out fires,
you got to make sure that you have a diverse
fighting force. All jokes aside well the pressure on the
city to prove its diversity credentials. So a few years
later they picked Joel Baker as their first black fire chief.

(06:09):
He announced right away that promoting diversity is one of
his top priorities. They brought him in from Atlanta, and
his priority was not putting out fires or being prepared
for floods. No, his priority was to make sure that
the fire department was blacker play cut three forty seven.

Speaker 6 (06:27):
This two time fire chief wants to make a difference
in the growing city of Austin and tells us he
wants to start by bringing in more diversity.

Speaker 7 (06:35):
It's important that the Austin Fire Department as much as
we can, reflect the community which we serve.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
But when you hire people based on race, you're not
hiring based on skills. So right now Baker is facing
a vote of no confidence.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
So let's go right there.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
See, this is the game that racist ignorant white people
like Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
This is the game that they play. They love to
go oh no, no, no.

Speaker 8 (07:00):
It's no, it's racist, and how he was hired and
it was this is just wrong and it's unfair.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Look at this unquality.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Really, that's interesting because you heard the reporter there say
two time fire chief.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Here, we go to my iPad, so you pull up.
This is just a AI overview.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Let's see here served more than thirty years as a
firefighter of the Atlanta area, including the fire chief with
the Atlanta Fire Rescue Department. Begin with East Point Fire
Department in nineteen eighty six. Has held various positions including
Lieutenant Field Operations and Training Academy, Captain Hazard's Material Technical
Rescue Unit, Deputy fire Chief, Airport Operations Assistant Fire Chief, Officers,

(07:48):
Support Services Home spend time in the Marines. Also ten
years of the Navy Reserve. Really, See, they love to
ignore your resume. You got it because you're black. No,

(08:12):
it's called you got skills. But see when you're ignorant
like Charlie Kirk, when you drop out of college and
then you have a white conservative benefactor who funds your
group called Turning Point USA, and you get to run
around as one of Trump's bros talking about masculinity and

(08:36):
you're talking to your other little racist minions because Turning
Point at USA has had serious problems with racist in
their organization. But see he gets covered by saying, oh no,
but I was buddy buddy with Cami's Owens.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
We used to employ her. See they love to attack.
See if you are.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
The fire chief in Los Angeles, who's lesbian? Oh you're DEI.
If you're the black fire chief in Austin.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
You're DEI. So what do y'all call.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Unqualified white people, especially white men. They never seem to
use the phrase dei higher because see, you have to understand,
in the world of a racist like Charlie Kirk, you
are not qualified to hold any job unless you're a

(09:37):
white man.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
See that's how they think.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Oh, if you are a white man, oh you can
do anything.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
You can hold any job you can. A white is
right in their world.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Now, I see that's really interesting because if you actually
look at the coverage the warning systems in Kirk County,
we're not firing the folks laid off a national weather service.
I mean, it's like thing upon thing upon thing upon

(10:20):
thing that impacted what happened in that county. But by
the way, they've had flooding there for years and the
problem was never fixed. We now know that county leaders there,
Republican such as the sheriff, such as the county commissioners,

(10:45):
turned down federal money that could have created a new
system that could have saved lives. But you see, it's
easy to blame the black people. Oh it's easy, and
let's just blame the black man. His fault, his fault.
By the way, y'all, Austin is one hundred and twenty

(11:09):
miles from Kirk County. It's not the Austin police, the
fire chiefs job to respond to flooding one hundred and
twenty miles away. He actually gets paid by the taxpayers

(11:33):
of Austin, Texas.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
See, so what you should be asking is, and we.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Knew Charlie Kirk is too dumb to do this, you
should be asking is, wait a minute, why didn't Kirk County,
which has a history of flooding along this.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
River, why did not they.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Have a system in place to deal with this? Because
they were warning folks were told. And you know, I
am very I'm a frequent critic of Cleveland pastor Darryl Scott.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
He is he's a Trump.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Maga loving individual, and I've ripped him on numerous times.
But what's interesting is if you if you look at
his feed, he's been holding Charlie Kirk the task this guy.
Corey Walker tweeted, are we just blaming every disaster on

(12:37):
the presence of hypothetical black people there? Scott retweeted that,
So then when you go back here, are Carmine severe
If you're blaming President Donald Trump for the Texas floods
and then death told, you're a simpleton. Well, if you're
blaming DEI for the Texas floods the death toll, you're
a simpleton. Both groups are also horrific human beings using
the tragedy for personal game. Well, actually, Carmine, you can

(12:59):
hold accountable when you have cut the National Weather Service
in the warning systems not operating properly, so then you have.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
You know, I don't care for I'm not gonna quote
her because she's an idiot. But let's see here boom.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
A person says Chief Bacer was a fire chief with
the Atlanta Fire Rescue Department, proud to his current position,
so to say that he'sn't qualified as ridiculous. Darris Scott
says he if he was white, they wouldn't say anything.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
There you go. But I disagree with Daryl. If the
chief was a white woman.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Who also was a lesbian, Oh, d y I hire
because they just believe that the white men control everything.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
This was interesting.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Darrin Scott said, sixty seven people died when a helicopter
crashed into a plane over the Potomac. The first thing
said was we're gonna investigate to see if d e.
I was involved, When it wasn't race was never mentioned again.
Neither was the word of competence. I'm getting sick of
this only the right. Well, first of all, Darryl, I
agree with you on that one, but you also scared
that one because it was Donald Trump and Pete heck

(14:06):
Seth and Sean Duffy, three white men who initially said
it was DEI and helicopter crash.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
But you didn't call them out. Don't think I did
to see that.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
But he also said this here, Charlie Kirk ain't slick
with his racist bs. He insinuates that every single black
person in a position of authority is incompetent and only
got the position because off firmative action. Unless it's one
of his lackiest weight, he doesn't put them in any authority.
Oh then let's see here, he says, I gotta find

(14:37):
a black person to blame this on, even if he's
one hundred and one hundred twenty miles away. I would
blame it on Governor Abott, but he's not a Democrat.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
So see, there we go, There we go.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Scott responded to somebody has said the chief was white,
we would race would have never been mentioned and the
blame would have been on him alone, not on all
whites in an authority position. Then let's see here right there,
he says. Man Charlie Kirk says some racist crap. I respond,
and some suckers come on here saying I'm too focused
on race hashtag Charlie enablers. Ooh, so I guess Elon

(15:10):
Musk was a DEI higher too.

Speaker 9 (15:11):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Let's see here from now on, when a white woman
like Margaret Taylor Green says or does something stupid or
against Trump, I'm.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Gonna call him a Dei choice.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Boom, Scott says racist and never mentioned by the right
entitled tragedy or calamity unless a black person is in
a position of authority. As soon as there's a tragedy,
the searchers are on the fight out if a black
person is involved. So the right can scream dei Austin firefighters,
the firefighters of them same ones who want to have
a vote of no conference.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
The chief reject racist and hate speech rhetoric and all
of his informs.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
We need the community support, so please help us stay
on point. And then of course they go on to
criticize the fire chief. But there's another one in here
that Darryl Scott had on here that I thought was
really interesting sea if I can find it, because he
also called out, oh, this is Darren's initial one. This
is a lie from the pit of hell. He wanted

(16:04):
to blame the helicopter and plane crashes on DEI black people,
but he couldn't, so he comes with his bullshit to
deflect from his past. Israel Roan and Epstein comments, and
what's worse is all and this is why I want
to show And what's worse is all the black magas
that are scared to challenge this openly. Don't DM me
in private if you're scared.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
To go public. See, So why am I saying this?
I could very easily ignore the idiot Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
But see, but you got to understand something. Donald Trump
loves him from Charlie Kirk. And white people like Charlie
Kirk are the ones who love to talk about merit, meritocracy, fairness,
justice for all. Yet they never ever seem to bring
up the race of white men.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
But something happens bad. And see, people like Charlie Kirk
ext to speak for the party because the party employs them,
the party uses them.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
The party champions them. These are the people who they love. See,
Republicans love to say they're a race bader talk about
race too much, but they always are fixated with de
ei higher I see the courts of the world. And
Erik says, they love to call Kataji Brown Jackson's Supreme

(17:26):
Court justice stupid and dumb and all of this here.
They literally couldn't even have an elementary legal.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Conversation with her because see, for.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Them, she was chosen because she's a black woman. Never
mind in American history, she's one hundred and sixteenth Supreme
Court justice.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
And let's see, who are the.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Women before her, Saturday O'Connor, Elena Kagan, Ruth Bider Gingsberg,
Ammy Cony, Barrett, Katuncki, Bron Jackson, one hundred and sixteen
Supreme Court justices in the history. We're saying only six

(18:16):
women were qualified. Yeah, we know that's bullshit. Katanji Bron
Jackson said even in essence in her opening comments that
people like constaus Baker, constaus Baker Motley, Oh, there were
numerous black women who should have been on a Supreme
Court before her. But then let's see one hundred and
sixteen Supreme Court Justices, three black, third Good Marshall Clais Thomas, Katunki,

(18:41):
Brod Jackson, hmm, Supreme Court Justices, Latino.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Of war.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
She mean to tell me six women, three blacks, one Latino,
no Asian.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
And all the rest were white men.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
But they were all emmily qualified because they're white men.
This is what the ANTIDEI act you is about.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
And let's understand someth of y'all. It's not DII. It's
d I.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Today before it was affirmative action, before it was multiculturalism,
before it was quotas. The reality is this, white men
like Charlie Kirk have never wanted us to be in
the workplace, have never wanted us to hold jobs, have
never wanted us to be hired, don't want us to
be fire chief or police chief or mayor or deputy.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
They don't want to see us because.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
In their minds, the only black people acceptable for any
of these jobs are black lackeys like Scott Turner, HUD secretary,
Like what's that boy named Big Carson? Previous HUD secretary. See,

(20:07):
even if we're having a conversation right now about all
people are surrounding Trump, do y'all see any black White
House aids no, because they don't believe that black people
have the intellect to be able to do these jobs.

(20:30):
You need to understand they don't want us near power
because what they don't like is when we have power,
we actually wield it. We believe in fairness and equity,
and they don't because in their minds, white men rule

(20:52):
the world. Ricy Colbert host The Reese Covit Show, a
serious XM radio joining us from DC, not the Greg
car depopment, fat American studies, how a university host of
the Black Table right here.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
On the Black Start Network. Let's just be just real clear, receive.
We know who these white people are.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
When they throw out DEI Higher, what they really want
to say is the N word. Well, they really want
to say is that color. We know this and so,
and at least on this one, I'm glad passed pasta
Daryl Scott. He was also a ripping Kirk before when
he was trashing MLK. But see, here's the real deal.
These these little other little black face mac of people,

(21:33):
and I call them the help. They're real quiet folks
like the Hodge Twins.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
They calling.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Calling Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett the B word. They ain't saying nothing,
you know what, and you know for the longest, you know,
I I great respect for Joseph Pinon, who is who
is a Black Republican. But he was there dancing. He
was there the Black History Month a reception. But go

(22:02):
to the iPad, Henry.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
I mean, I'm sitting here and I'm i'm, I'm I'm
looking and my god, just quiet. I see him talking
about David Patterson. He's talking about Haquen Jeffries.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
But but Joseph is real quiet on Twitter about the
bigoted racist Charlie Kirk. When I sit here and who's
the other little girl? What's that girl named Cheries Lane?
Oh yeah, you know she's the one who went to
a fam You let me see here.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Let me click post and replies.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Hmmm, I need the red lots to ceo. M oh,
here's a video of her dancing summertime. Okay, let's see here.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Let me just go to post those replies. Let me
see what I can buy the post. I'm sure there's
a Charlie Kirk. I'm sure. Let's see here, Red Coach.
Life got so much better for me when I started
dating for money. Okay, gotcha? Let's see here.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Uh, let's see I started my I started my at
home plates kit on Monday. Okay, Pilates, she got, she
she got retweeted a Padler bell. Let's see here.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Hm hm oh oh she did address Charlie Kirk. Here's
what she said.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
This has to stop, Like seriously, I'm tired of people
like him talking.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Shut the hell up. That's it. That's wow, that's profile.
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Let's see here. Let's see who's some of the other
Maga negroes. Oh, how about that lawn jockey Terrence K.
William Uh you know he looks. Oh, let's see here.
I had a little full blocked to me unblock him.
You know, he did the one little little leprechaun.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Let's see here.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
I don't know any of these people.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
I do not know year I'm looking.

Speaker 10 (23:56):
I'm looking nothing nothing, nothing, nothing.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Nothing. Oh. He mentions l Sharpton and Jasmine Crockett. But no,
Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 10 (24:14):
Let's see him nothing nothing nothing, nothing, See what I.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Called him to help? Nothing? Oh?

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Oh, there you go, he's mocky maccollegewoman, Maxie and water
is nothing.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Oh, here's abolish d y D.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
I taking the country backwards.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Wow, nothing nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, Yeah, Terrence K.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Williams, he's a long jockey. I'm gonna show the last one.
We show the last one.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
It was last one.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Let's see here that David Harris, David Harris, David Harris,
David Harris loved to sit here, uh and talk a
little trash.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
And he was sitting here that David Harrison. Let's see here.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
They love this, they love this black face. They love
this one right here, and let's see here.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Okay, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, nothing nothing.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Nothing, matter of fact, this might be a different one.
So we used to go and make your point. I'm
gonna go find this full. I want to make sure
it's the right one, because it's amazing how.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
They just quiet, go ahead, recent, go ahead ahead.

Speaker 11 (25:16):
Well, first of all, fuck Charlie Kirk and everything he
talked about. No, then people won't say I don't I
didn't know any of those people.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
To be clear, I wouldn't be able to pick him
out of a lineup.

Speaker 11 (25:26):
But you know what, white people, this is not gonna
bring your folks back. This is not gonna protect you.
It's gonna protect you. Is holding your white elected officials accountable.
Greg Abbott has gotten re elected time and time again
despite multiple botched state responses, despite inaction with the horrific
Uvality shooting, many mass shootings that have occurred in Texas,

(25:48):
and a less than robust response here with these, with these,
with these flittings. The city of Kerrville has a city council,
all white people that have repeatedly turned down measures that
can actually address this. The Uvalde Guadalupe, the Upper Guadalupe
River Authority, has a board of entirely white people that

(26:10):
turned down a project that would have mitigated some of this.
The residents complained about the noise of a warning system,
and so they turned it down. There's an article that
goes through over a decade of attempts to address this
that were rejected by their residents. I'm not blaming them,

(26:31):
but I'm saying that your choices, your elections, might have
the consequences, and unfortunately they're paying the price.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
These kids and a place where it's flooded for decades. Oh,
come up to my iPad here and befog go to Greg,
because my next guess is waiting.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Oh this is real quick, David J. Harris, Oh that
negro who was.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Taking a lot of videos blackhaged month perception. Let's see
here nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing. Oh,
he's commenting on the video events, calling out one of these.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Oh nothing just sall y'all know here he is nothing.
That's right. Another member of the help Greg go ahead.

Speaker 12 (27:11):
I mean you laying it out.

Speaker 7 (27:12):
Roland Recy just walked through and adding to your analysis
of reality. And you know, Charlie Kirk reminds me, and
this will age me and probably age all of us.
Most people here won't remember the Dick Tracy comic book
strip of the great Chester Good, the artist, and he
had what it was called the Rose Gallery of villains.
Shoulders and Prune Face and flat Top Jones and bbi's

(27:35):
and Mumbles, all of them drawn to kind of characteristically
kind of capture their physical appearance match their nicknames. When
I see Charlie Kirk, I think of a Chester Rogues gallery,
Chester Good, Dick Tracy, villain Little Face. So when Little
Face ever talks, it's very clear that his physical appearance
matches what his objective is. This is a country where

(27:59):
the own DEI that exists in the last five centuries
of human history is whiteness. You don't have to be qualified,
you don't have to do anything except claim to whiteness.
And at the bottom of that whiteness is those who,
if you strip their whiteness away from them, would probably
be consumed by insecurity, doubt, and fear. And when you
see Little Face, you can see the smallness of spirit,

(28:23):
the smallness of intellect, the smallness of character. And so
he has no choice but to do that. That's why
he's so effective. Because whether it be the rogues gallery
of cabinet appointees, whether it be Little Face and his crew,
or whether it be these American negroes who clearly don't
have anything else going for them except fieldy to power.
What you see when you collect them all they have

(28:43):
one thing in common. They are scared, they are fearful,
and they're deeply insecure. It'll be easy and human to
feel sorry for them, and we should. But when it
comes to the exercise of power, where to point now?
Where where the United States of America is on the
edge of an existential crisis will probably change it forever.

(29:05):
We have to seize control and use our power to
do what we can to make sure that our people
and everyone who believes in our common humanity will be okay.
And what you're doing today is just reminding us that
we should never listen to Little Face or any of
those folk for anything other than the politics of fear.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Nope, So I just wanted just to take that time
just show y'all understand that there are black maga people
who I call the help, who make racists like Charlie
Kirk very comfortable through their absolute silence. Quick break, we
come back, What the hell is going on? To Washington Post,

(29:45):
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Bought in.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Washington Post used to be a significant paper, in fact,
considered one of the top two in America next to
the New York Times. And even in the first Trump administration,
I mean they had.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
A critical slogan.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
They talked about how they were going to hold him
at tag doing what journalists do. All of a sudden
he runs a second time. And when your owners, Jeff
Bezos and Trump is threatening to charge you more for packages,
You're like.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I don't know. All my money's time up at Amazon.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
What is also interesting because in the last couple of
days he sold like seven hundred million dollars in Amazon stock.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
I did a heal there. Well, the problem that.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
I'm now speaking of is what happens when when they
made this decision, brought in a new CEO, A bunch
of people quit. The number of editors, other people say yo,
I'm out of here. Other columnists because they could not
stand really how they were Kyle Talent to Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Wellin this news Joe Davison, longtime staff for the Washington Post,
one of the founders forty four finals in the National
Association of Black Journalists.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
He quits he has a column that gets spiked and
it's like they changed the rule was what they used
to And Joe was like, yeah, I'm good, I'm out.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Joe Davidson Jones is right now. Joe, glad to have
you on the show. Thank you very much.

Speaker 9 (32:09):
What the hell happened? Well? I had a column that
was critical of Trump.

Speaker 15 (32:19):
I talked about how he attacks thought, beliefs, and speech.

Speaker 9 (32:25):
I gave a number of examples.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (32:27):
De I is one example, because the Executive Order on
de I UH said there should be no references to
UH diversity equity UH an inclusion UH in federal agencies.

Speaker 7 (32:41):
UH.

Speaker 9 (32:41):
So that's an attack on speech. UH. But it goes
much beyond.

Speaker 15 (32:45):
That because the order also said that organizations and companies
that get federal money, including universities, corporations, community groups, UH,
they also cannot participate in the I very watch, very
broad order. But the reason I used that as an

(33:06):
example is because it essentially says you cannot even refer
to the EI in these federal related programs, and so
this column was spiked, as we say in the business,
or it was held or killed, there was another way
to put it, because of a policy that apparently was
at first it wasn't ever really announced, but it was

(33:28):
put partially in effect late last year early this year,
when two other columnists who were new side as opposed
to editorial or opinion columnists were moved from the news
section to the opinion section. I didn't even know about
that at the time, and so my column was was
spiked because of this policy. I said, what policy. Then

(33:50):
I said, well, let me see the policy, and it
was not written. There was nothing to see, and so
this column was held, which was a h you know,
was really that was like a clear red light for me. Nonetheless,
I thought I'd hang in there a bit more because

(34:10):
actually at the time a lot of other things going
on in my life that required my attention. And I
wrote another column that was I didn't think it was
at all controversial, and by the way I thought the
column that was spiked, it was such a surprise because
I had written columns in the past that were at
least as opinionated as that one, if not more so.
And so when You might recall that Congressman Jerry Connolly

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of Northern Virginia died, and he was a strong proponent.

Speaker 9 (34:38):
Of federal employees.

Speaker 15 (34:40):
And my column covers federal employees, federal workplace, federal agencies,
and other issues. And so when I wrote a piece
about Connolly, who at that point was alive but he
announced he was not going to run again because of
his cancer illness, I mentioned that he was someone who
had repeatedly posed pay ways for federal employees, and I

(35:03):
described the potential pay raise as well deserved, and they
took well deserved out, which.

Speaker 9 (35:08):
Is really pretty mild. You know.

Speaker 15 (35:11):
Meanwhile, there were some other writers at the paper, and
this point gets to the inconsistent way in which this
policy was implemented. In addition to not being announced, they
actually used harsher language, much harsher language I thought against
against Trump or to describe Trump and they And so

(35:32):
there was this inconsistency between the kind of language that
was taken out of my column and the language that
others were allowed to use. And it just got to
the point where I couldn't function that way as a columnist,
because the column is meant to have a point of

(35:53):
view commentary and opinion.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, I mean the.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Column is subjective, it's not objective a news story. It's
about fairness, it's about balance, not necessarily as bs about
both sides, but it's a it's reporting, it's subjective, it's
it's it's there to.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Have a point of view.

Speaker 15 (36:17):
And my column was heavily reported. And so these these
my my opinions were always backed up by specific examples,
such as the DEI example.

Speaker 9 (36:25):
I just gave.

Speaker 15 (36:27):
And and but it was never as opinionated as an
opinion side column like an op ed column, because the
news side columns do have. As a columnist, I had
more leeway than your average reporter, right, but I wasn't
trying to be an opinion column on the op ed page.
Got it sometimes just loads and loads of opinion without
perhaps not as much reporting in some cases.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (36:51):
And so this was this was a big surprise to
me and I and when I realized something as mild
as saying federal employees deserved a raise was too opinionated,
then clearly it was time to go. And I'm gone.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Uh. This is so memo went out.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yesterday where the Washington Post ceo, this is the Foxnews
Dot com here line. Washington Post CEO urgis staffers who
don't fill aligned with paper's new directions to take buyout.
Our chosen path is not for everyone. Post boss will
Lewis Tills tells employees, so is that what you did?

Speaker 9 (37:31):
Well, I didn't take a buyout, I just quit.

Speaker 15 (37:33):
I mean I wasn't actually eligible for a buyout because
I was actually on contract for the last five years.

Speaker 9 (37:40):
Five years ago, I officially retired.

Speaker 15 (37:42):
Got my retirement pension and all of that, but I
stayed on writing the column as a contractor. And so
for the last five years I was a contractor, which
meant I was not eligible for the for the buyout.
Got it because but I think that, I mean, I
think that that that piece you just reference, which I
haven't seen yet, so I can't speak to it authoritated to.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
So in this memo, apparently hold on one second, he
said the Post was trying to reinvent that be on
a reinvention journey.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
They're reimagining.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
The moment demands that we continue to rethink all aspects
of our organization in business.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
To maximize our impact.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
If we want to reconnect with our audience and continue
to defend democracy more changes of the Post will be necessary,
and to succeed, we need to be united as a
team with a strong belief and passion and where we
are heading. I understand and respect, however, that our chosen
path is now for everyone. That's exactly while we introduce
the Voluntary Separation Program.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
As we continue in this new direction, I.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Want to ask those who do not fill aligned with
the company's plan to reflect on that the VSP is
designed designed to support you in making this decision. Give
you the ability to weigh your options thoughtfully and with
less concern about financial consequences. And if you think that
it's time to move on to a new chapter, the
VSP helps you take that next step with more security.

(38:58):
Regardless of what you decide, I want to thank all
of you for everything you.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Have done for this organization.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
If you choose to move away from the Post, thank
you for all your contributions, and.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
I truly wish you the best of luck if you.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Believe in our next chapter. I'm excited for the work
ahead of us.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
That's his Menmom, Yeah.

Speaker 15 (39:16):
I imagine more people will leave. A number of people
have already left after the Post blocked an endorsement of
Kamala Harris for president in November. It seemed to it
really opened this figot and a number of fine journalists
left the Post unfortunately, and in some ways it's very sad.

(39:37):
You know, it's because the Post is done and really
continues to do good work. But I think this whole
situation has really undermined the credibility and integrity of a
fine news organization. And I will say, despite the fact
that many fine journalists there continue to do good work,

(39:58):
nonetheless has really hurt. I think the reputation of the paper,
and that's why you see so many people leaving the
employment of the Washing Post, see many people banding in
their subscriptions, and there's no doubt that morale has plmented.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Joe for people who don't understand, the crisis that we
are in goes beyond the Washington Posts. We are seeing
Donald Trump and MAGA have a whole sale assault on
the First Amendment on the press. You see the extortion
he is engaged in. He extorted sixteen million dollars out

(40:35):
of Paramount and using his FCC chair brending the car
saying help, hey, you want this being able to mergent approved,
y'all better tell that Trump lawsuit and they said, hey,
to get eight billion dollars, it will cost as sixteen million. Yeah,
we're good. He extorted the money out of ABC News
to settle the lawsuit. He extorted it. It's another was

(40:58):
another settlement he did me. So he's sitting here doing
all these actions, and he's extorting these law firms of
the cut deals as well, because he's exacting revenge on enemies.
And so what he wants he wants to completely he
wants to completely destroy the media, render them useless, scare

(41:20):
them to death, make folk impotent to be able to
say or do anything.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
And when that happens, the people lose.

Speaker 9 (41:31):
Well.

Speaker 15 (41:31):
I think that there's been a lot of satisfaction among
journalists because of the kinds of things that have happened
that ABC and CBS, for example, A number of journalists
those organizations have spoken out, and of course there have
also been attacked on individual journalists. I certainly saw that
even in the first term in nieau Sendor for example,

(41:53):
among others, have been attacked personally. And I think that
that's the kind of thing that is very worrying for
a journalist and should be very worrying for anybody who's
in and who really believes in democracy, because a free
press and a vigorous press is absolutely necessary to hold
these politicians accountable, not just Trump, not just Maga Republicans,

(42:17):
but Democrats and everybody else who need a vigorous press
who is going to go after them. They when things
are not operating properly. If there's disasters, for example, as
you've discussed on this program, that have not been properly
responded to by the authorities, you need a vigorous press
to look into those kinds of things, no matter who

(42:37):
is in power, and to see folks kind of journalists
and journalistic organizations kind of backing away from that is
very troublesome for our democracy.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Do you work at the institution that broke the Watergate
story that allow the New York Times or the Pentagon Papers.
I would dare say in American history, the only other
person who occupied the White Office that routinely despised and
attacked the news media was Richard Nixon. But the thug

(43:11):
in chief sitting in that seat right now, and that's
what I call the twice impeached, crimly convicted, felon con
man in chief. Don't Trump this is different we have
in our time. We have never ever seen someone who
sits in that position viciously and in a nasty, despicable way,

(43:35):
attacked the news media in a relentless way every single day,
calling everything fake news when he is busted with the truth,
telling folks, that's a stupid question. I don't know why
you asked that question. It is a constant assault. We've
never witnessed this from occupy of the White House, I

(43:56):
dare say, ever.

Speaker 15 (43:59):
Well, I certainly can't recall another time another president who
has done this so systematically. I was actually in the
Oval office when Donald Trump met with Cyril Renald Poser,
the President of South Africa.

Speaker 9 (44:11):
Uh, and he.

Speaker 15 (44:12):
Repeatedly called a NBC reporter who was trying to ask
a legitimate questions. Now, Peter Alexander, and yeah, he goes after,
he goes after individual's you know, name calling.

Speaker 9 (44:25):
And now it's of course.

Speaker 15 (44:26):
That that there was a lot of that in the
first term as well, but now it's escalated through the
kinds of uh, you know, the kinds of tactics we've
seen with a B C and and CBS.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (44:37):
So, yes, it's a clear escalation on his part. In
terms of attacks on journalism.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Uh questions from my panel. Great, call you first, greg
Y and mute.

Speaker 7 (44:50):
Thank you, thank there we go, There we go, thank you,
Thank you Roman, and thank you brother David Soon for
years of work and for this decision.

Speaker 12 (44:58):
I'm curious. We see lately the.

Speaker 7 (45:01):
Venture capital backed platform substack has moved from just having blogs,
even send out emails to video and social media and
replicating Twitter and TikTok and these kind of things. We
saw Jim Acosta go over there after Joey read let
m MSNBC.

Speaker 12 (45:17):
She's built following there.

Speaker 7 (45:20):
As you move forward, I expect we'll continue to read
your voice. Have you considered going into a space like
substack and does that speak to perhaps the future of
print journalism and newspaper journalism in an age when it
seems like newspapers may even be dying as the delivery
system for that kind of running real time commentary.

Speaker 9 (45:42):
Thank you well, thank you.

Speaker 15 (45:45):
A number of people have suggested that I check out substack,
and I think I will do that. I can't say
that that's for me yet, but.

Speaker 9 (45:53):
I might well.

Speaker 15 (45:54):
I will look into it. Whether or not I'll land there,
so to speak, I don't know the journalism landscape is changing.

Speaker 9 (46:02):
Rapidly, and it has been, oh since the.

Speaker 15 (46:06):
Late nineties when the Internet became much more popular.

Speaker 9 (46:12):
Now everything is digital.

Speaker 15 (46:14):
First, and newspapers, you know, as a paper, you know, subscriptions.

Speaker 9 (46:19):
Are dropping, you know, like a like a like a.

Speaker 15 (46:22):
Brick in a lake, and it's and so this is
really a changing time for journalism.

Speaker 13 (46:30):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (46:31):
And where things will shake out, I think it's.

Speaker 15 (46:33):
Still too early to tell, because every time you look
around there seems to be some kind of new platform recing.

Speaker 11 (46:41):
Thank you for your work and for being here. I'm curious,
how much do you think the changes of the Washington
Post are about deconstructing journalism as opposed to shifting it
in one particular ideological direction.

Speaker 15 (46:57):
Well, when you say deconstructing journalism, what do you mean
by that?

Speaker 11 (47:00):
I mean in the sense of undermining the institution, undermining
the fourth estate and the role of the press in
you know, being that that mover of arbiter of the truth.

Speaker 15 (47:14):
Well, you know, I think Leslie Stall, who was with
sixty Minutes Excuse Me on CBS, she said something interesting
during an interview in which, in fact, she talked about
how CVS appears to be caving to Trump, she said
that she asked Trump one time about why do you
basically criticize the Trump the news media so much? Why

(47:39):
do you dump on journalism journalists so much? And he
said something to the effect, that's because when you attack
me and I criticize you, the people will be on
my side and believe me. That's a pair of phrase quotations.
So I think that I think these tactics by the
president are not just like a quick a quick quip.

(48:05):
They aren't just it's not that he just gets a
joy out of beating up on journalists. I think there's
a there's a method to that madness, and that is
to uh, to get the American people, certainly those about
half of the population almost that are solidly behind him,
seemingly uh, to believe him instead of what they read

(48:28):
in the newspapers, read online with reputable sites, uh, and
see on television.

Speaker 9 (48:34):
I mean.

Speaker 15 (48:34):
And so I think this notion of undermining the credibility
of the news media, I think that's a conscious strategy.

Speaker 9 (48:43):
Uh. And frankly, the news video.

Speaker 15 (48:45):
Has long been kind of poorly regarded unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
UH.

Speaker 15 (48:50):
But but this is uh, this is a situation where
I think it's designed to make that reputation sink even further.
And unfortunately, I think that the actions of Jeff Bezos
of the Washington Post have specifically hurt the credibility of
the Washington Post.

Speaker 9 (49:08):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (49:09):
And that's that's a that's a very sad situation. And
it's not just clearly not my thoughts. You can look
at the thousands of people who have who no longer subscribed,
the dozens of people who've quit. Now it's not that's
not a good situation for journalism, and therefore it's not
a good situation for the American publican democracy.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
See, first of all, that is what he said to
Leslie Staw and the whole deal was, and we see
it playing out. They will believe me and screw all
of you. So that's where all fake news came from.
That's where alternative facts came from as well. And here's
I think that the fundamental problem of joke, and that
is the news media has responded in the same way

(49:53):
I believe as Democrats what I'm in of.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Course the right life, Well, they're the same, which is.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Bs that is is they have been wholly unprepared to
deal with somebody where there's no bottom where someone who
has no respect, who lies about lies And they are
so too many, too many of our colleagues. They are

(50:21):
collegial with these folks in this city. They frankly associate
with them, They pal around with them. What I mean
by that is the dinner parties and things along those lines,
and frankly they want to they want to be just
so collegial. When somebody is constantly lying to you and

(50:44):
saying hateful, shameful things.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
I can't be friends with you.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
I can't treat you with respect if that's how you're
going to behave And so Trump comes in, and the
truth Joe is that he is a by product of
the same media. There is no Donald Trump without the

(51:13):
New York City gossip pages boosting him.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Papa Rizi is showing him.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
There is no Donald Trump if MSNBC and CNN is
not calling him in two thousand and seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,
doing interviews with him, riding on his plane, gauging his opinion,
having him on I have told this story and I
don't care about naming names. I was on CNN and

(51:43):
if any of my former seeing anybody's seeing is there,
please go into the archives if y'all can and download.
When I was on with Heidi Phillips, Obama was president
and I said this, Joe, I said on the air,
but next time Donald Trump come on the CNN, we
should run a crawl at the bottom and say this

(52:04):
is for entertaining purposes only. I got an email from
Ken Jouts, the executive vice president.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Of CNN, and me and Ken got along.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
He was on the senior leadership team of CNN, and
he told me, do not criticize Donald Trump when he's
coming on our air. And that night Obama was giving
some big speech and Piers Morgan had Trump on and
Trump was bullshit and saying lies, and I had to tweet.

(52:39):
Another time he was coming on the Situation Room with
wood Blitzer.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
I look at his books, his booker, Stephanie Kutubi.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
I said, why the hell y'all keep putting his ass
on the other real CEOs. Every time he comes up,
we get great ratings, I said, but he's full of shit.
It's about the ratings and so the media. Then you
go to the Apprentice with the show created the successful billionaire.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
No, he was it.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
So he is a media creation and the very people
that created him are not being consumed by him, and
they don't know how to properly respond because we've been
taught to be collegial and show difference.

Speaker 15 (53:26):
M hm.

Speaker 9 (53:28):
You know, it's true that Donald Trump is good for reading.

Speaker 15 (53:30):
It is also good, you know, for for circulation and
subscribers for for print and digital publications. I mean, the uh,
the Post got a big boost uh from subscribers when
he was in office.

Speaker 9 (53:44):
I don't know about this time.

Speaker 15 (53:45):
Probably so again, uh, but but in the first term,
that didn't affect, uh, the editorial stance of the of
of the Washington Post. It didn't bring about the kinds
of h guidelines that editorial riders and our ed riders
now face, and it didn't bring about this relatively new

(54:08):
rule of no opinion, no commentary, news side columns. But
it is happening this time, and it might be happening
this time because Donald Trump came back with a roar.
I mean, last time, everybody knew he didn't he didn't
really win the presidency in terms of the popular vote,
but he did this time, and he's riding that for

(54:30):
all that it's worth and more. And I think we're
going to be in for more of this behavior going forward.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Well, I'll say this here, Joe. I remember the first
time around the media would they would say the word lie,
and then they had this, well, you know, in order
for us to use the word lie, uh, the definition
of lie means we have to know the person has
an intent to mistake the truth.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
What the fuck he lies?

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Like the New York Times wouldn't even use the world.
I don't know what Dean Bakket was doing. But again
it was this no, no, no, no, we don't use
you know, it was he you know.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
He he stretches the truth.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
I mean, it was like they were creating ways, trying
to find ways to say lie without saying lie, and
this unwillingness to challenge uh the issue and people go, well, uh,
you're being partisan, And this is very simple. Truth is
not partisan, it's truth. And I just believe the only

(55:33):
way we have to respond is if you lie, we're
going to call the lie out. That's not opinionated, that's
not partisan, it's factual.

Speaker 9 (55:47):
You know.

Speaker 15 (55:47):
Well on that point that I will say that one
of the things about the about in the Post Style
book now is deals with this question when you can
use the term lie, uh, and specifically on Donald Trump. Uh,
writers at the Post nowadays have part blunts to say
that this notion that Donald Trump won the last, well

(56:09):
the previous election.

Speaker 9 (56:09):
As he continually.

Speaker 15 (56:11):
Says, that's a lie, and reporters and writers the Posts
have Kurt Blunch now to call that a lie. That
doesn't apply to all of his statements, however, but it
raises an important point, and that is, if you tell
a lie often enough, a lot of people are going
to believe it. And that's that's part of that, That's
part of Donald Trump's plan. And the prime example of

(56:33):
that is did he win that previous presidential election? He
always says he did, and the fact is he did not,
And to say that he did, that's a lie. And
that's one area where at least at the Post there
is there's no hesitation about pointing that out. That, however,
doesn't necessarily apply to many other statements in terms of
the way the Post and of the news organizations posts

(56:56):
describing his statements.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Well, I'll say this here. I believe that.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Is as long as we are dealing with a news media,
corporate media that is scared to.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Death of offending.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Him because one they might own radio stations as FCC.
They may own TV stations, that's FCC. When you have
the owners of other economic interests Jeff Bezos, Amazon, you
postal service packages that they're gonna say, you know what,
who gives a shit about the news side?

Speaker 2 (57:35):
I don't care about these reporters. That means nothing.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
When you used to have publishers the Salzburgers Times, Katherine Graham,
The Post, the Bagham family Louisville, Kentucky, the Chandler family
Los Angeles, you had people who said, no, we understand

(57:59):
what the public trust is, what the news media is,
and we will not bend to power. These folks Not
only are they bending, they're essentially liquid when it comes
to power.

Speaker 9 (58:15):
You know, that's a sad situation.

Speaker 15 (58:18):
Uh, it's a sad situation for democracy, the sad situation
for journalism, sad situation for America. The kind of owners
that you that you described are needed now more than ever,
and there's not enough of them still in this business.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Indeed, indeed, last while I have you, Joe, this is
this year marks the fiftieth anniversary of the foundering of
the National Association of Black Journalists. Convention is coming up
in Cleveland. The organization chose not to invite Trump. Uh,
he was invited last year. I had some issues with that.

(58:55):
First of all, allowing Harris Faulkner to be on the
panel at the box paid said one hundred and eighty
s of mini dollars settlement too. She wasn't even a member,
so she never should have had her ads on that stage.
No black men, no black journalists on this stage as well,
and then also him lying out the gate as to
why they relate and then not correcting him there as well.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
What do you what do you as a founder? What
do you say?

Speaker 1 (59:20):
And yes, I'm running for ANNBJ office. What do you
say to young journalists today what they need to be
thinking and doing to ensure that there's a strong National
Association of Black Journalists for the next fifty years.

Speaker 15 (59:37):
Well, first, let me say I really appreciate your devotion
to NABJ because you were always there, so you appreciate that,
you know. I think that young journalists coming into our
business one, they need to know the craft.

Speaker 9 (59:55):
They need to get their skills down so.

Speaker 15 (59:57):
That nobody can nobody can side step them and give
them the side eye when it comes to the level
of the level of excellence and I think they also
need to come with a consciousness. You know, know your history,
know our community's history, know the true story behind things

(01:00:18):
like the EI and white privilege, no economics. You know,
come well prepared and join organizations like NABJ, because together,
when we're organized, you know, we have power and there's
things that we can do that we cannot do individually.
So I wouldn't I would encourage them to come well prepared,

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come to nab J, and get mentors.

Speaker 9 (01:00:43):
There are people who just love to be mentors. The
student projects which you.

Speaker 15 (01:00:49):
Rowan I believe were part of when you were one
of the student representatives on the board of Very.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Day, Actually it actually got denied five times, and when
I joined the board, I actually got to to prove
the fun So yeah, I was kind of involved with that.

Speaker 15 (01:01:04):
Yes, right, And it's important to also come I think
with a certain sense.

Speaker 9 (01:01:13):
Of political awareness. I'm not saying you have to.

Speaker 15 (01:01:15):
Have a certain political ideology, but I think you have
to come with a certain level of political awareness because
that helps you navigate the situations in the real world
as well as navigating situations in the newsroom that are
not always comfortable for black people.

Speaker 9 (01:01:34):
So you have to come with.

Speaker 15 (01:01:36):
Having the skills and having the political awareness to know
how to navigate some of these sometimes very difficult situations.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Indeed, well, I will be in Cleveland. I think there's
only probably like two conventions I missed since nineteen eighty nine,
two or three because I was actually doing work. But
absolutely it is that needed more than ever.

Speaker 13 (01:02:01):
Uh uh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
And Greg might remember, and I need to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Find the video, but it was Tokely Carmichael Kwame Terray
who said, you cannot show me an African American who
has ever achieved anything from our people by doing it
as an individual. It was only done through organization. And
so the one that you made is critically important.

Speaker 9 (01:02:27):
We used to always say organized, organized, organized.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
Absolutely Joe David said, we appreciate it, man, thanks a lot,
Thank you, folks.

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Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
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Who are they targeting in Texas? Three African Americans and
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Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Donald Trump hates Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. When I say hates,
he can't stand her. So he called Texas Governor Greg
Abbot and said, Hey, I need y'all to redraw these
congressional lines to get that black woman. You know, ain't
what he said out of Congress. And so Texas Governor
Greg Abbott is now called a special session of the legislature.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
They're eighteen points.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
But the main point for them to redraw the congressional
lines and who are they targeting? For Democrats, they're targeting
Congressman Al Green, Congressman Mark VC, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, Congresswoman
Sylvia Garcia. Now the issue, though is understand Congressional lines

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typically are redrawn every decade. The census in twenty twenty.
Lines of redrawn in twenty twenty one, and typically those
hold for the decade. But Republicans own have a four
or five seat majority of the United States House. They
are scared to death they're going to lose the House
next year because of their awful policies, so they want

(01:09:11):
to shore up support by picking off.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
The seats there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Now, let me unpack why this is important. When Bishop
William Barber and moral Monday's. First of all, we go
back before that two thousand and eight. Then center Barack
Obama wins North Carolina in two thousand eight running for president.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
He won by fourteen one hundred votes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Okay, then that was a significant black turnout in North Carolina.
Then in twenty ten, is that movie voter suppression laws.
Then they were able to take control of the North
Carolina Supreme Court. They outlawed racier Jerry Manderin and political
jerry Mandarin. So North Carolina went from ten Republicans three
Democrats to seven Republicans seven Democrats. Wisconsin, the same thing

(01:09:59):
lawsuit took Supreme Court said we don't have any control
over political jerrymandering that is how lines are drawn, meaning
the state legislature they hold the power to redraw lines.
What happened in Wisconsin Republicans control the Supreme Court. What
then happened was the folks in Wisconsin were like nah,

(01:10:22):
So Democrats now have a four to three majority of
the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
What then happened, they say.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Successfully overrule the state had to redraw state lines because
Republicans they basically drew the lines to guarantee they will
always have power. That's how you have these supermajorities in
Florida and Texas and other places. In Michigan, they had
a commission that said, oh, you got a credit commission,
a ballot INITIAI to credit commission to redraw lines.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
To make them fair.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
In Ohio, same thing happened, but the Republicans said, screw
the commission.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
They overlooked them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
So the Republicans have done so you understand why do
the Republicans have so much power on the state level,
the congressional level because of political jerry mandering by whoever
controls the legislature, the House, the Senate, governor's mansion puts
you in control of the process. So when Republicans have

(01:11:19):
a super majority, which means they can pass whatever they want,
don't even have to talk to the Democrats. That's how
you get political jerry mandering. So they're sitting here going, damn,
get our asses kicked next year, so we can pick
up four in Texas, then we can pick up a
few over here.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Yo, if we lose five six seats, we still hold
the majority.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Now, Democrats do political jerry mandry, but they're nicer about it. Okay,
Democrats are too much about fair You got political jerry
mandering in Maryland. Okay, But Democrats are not as hardcore
with political jerry mandering as Republicans. To me, that's stupid.
California Governor Gavin Newsom, he has been saying, he's already

(01:12:08):
on record of saying, all right, Texas Democrats, you punk
ass is Jerret Manner of these districts. You know what
I'm gonna do. I'm going jerry mandary California. Here's my
old deal, Gaven Newsom, to hell with Texas do that
shit anyway. That to me is dumb. This is about power, y'all.
This ain't about fairness. And when the Supreme Court has

(01:12:30):
already said, yo, we ain't got no jurisdiction Opulka Jered Mandrick,
then you exercise power. I don't understand it. So, but
here's the problem in Texas. Go to my iPad, Henry.
This is a post in the Texas Tribune. In the
Texas Tribune, which is a nonprofit site in Texas, you

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got someone who's quarter is saying we went down this.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Road before and it didn't go well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
In this article, they lay out that the Republicans did
this in twenty ten. The problem is things begin to
change in twenty eighteen. You see right here, twenty eighteen
was a midterm election, the political climate change, A lot
of dims turned out, and so you had these so
called red districts, and dims turned out and Republicans lost

(01:13:23):
state wise seats.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
They lost two congressional seats. And you see what you
see what.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Michael Lee, a redistioncting expert the Brenda Center, said, what
looked like a silent Jerry Mander by the end of
the decade had.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Become almost a dumbing bander.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
The lesson for twenty ten that you can stretch yourself
too thin, that you can be too smart for your
own good, and when the politics change, you get bitten
in the U no where. So already there are some
Republicans in Texas who saying, hold up nine dog, I
don't know about this here, because all of a sudden
we start changing lines. And maxplain how that works. If

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we start changing lines to get rid of these three
black Democrats and the Latino that means them black people
and Latinos they voting in our district, we might lose.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Now. Sylvia Garcia represents the district where actually I grew
up a group of Clinton Park in Houston that used
to be a Republican district.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Jack Fields, No, it's now a Democrat. Okay, eighteenth Congression
District in Houston. Conson when she Jackson Lee in the position,
that's the seat that actually was Barbara Jordan, Mickey Leland,
Craig Washington. She's the Jackson Lee Sevester Turner. And the
election is going to be in the fall. Now here's
the issue Republicans face. Section two Voting Race Act. Now

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we notice is a hard core Republican Supreme Court, but
we do have the two cases out of Alabama and Louisiana.
It does not bode well for Democrats, excuse me for
Republicans if they target these four guarantee lawsuit because the
lawsuit is going to say you are denying black and

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Latinos representation. Supreme Court ruled against Republicans in Alabama and
they had to create what's called an opportunity district. It
was not a majority of black district, but it was
about forty five or forty seven percent black. That's how
Congressman Shamari Figures was elected in Louisiana. Blacks make up

(01:15:38):
one third of the state. What happened there, well, had
to create a new seat. Republicans fought it, they lost.
They have to take a seat. Take figure from a
white Republican. That's how Clio feels it's back in Congress.
Now to understand the numbers, y'all, I need you to

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realize this here. Minorities make up sixty one percent of
all people in Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Let me say it again.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Black and brown people comprise sixty one percent of the
total population of Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
What's the problem?

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Sixty one percent of the people who vote in Texas
are white. Second, Texas has the largest number of eligible
black voters of any state in America. That goes back, y'all,

(01:16:46):
slavery and even after slavery, where black folks were moving there.
So when you look at the population of Texas, the
black population kept increasing. Now today you see the numbers.
So legally, what's gonna happen. White Republicans do this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
They getting sued and the argument is going.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
To be, you are depriving African Americans in Houston, Dallas,
their own representatives in Congress. These white Republicans think, oh,
Supreme Court's on our side. Greg the issue they're going
to have is And again, I have no trust in

(01:17:29):
these six volts on a.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Supreme Court at all.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
We know Clarence Thomas don't like black people can't stay
in the Voting Rights Act. But we do have in
recent history, very recent but this Supreme Court ruled against
white Republicans on the grounds of race in the congressional
seats in Alabama and Louisiana.

Speaker 7 (01:17:56):
Yeah, Roland, it's it's it's exciting. I confess to being
excited because what we're really talking about is whether or
not these white nationalists and the negroes they own, like
Clarence Thomas, are willing to destroy completely, completely destroy the

(01:18:18):
concept of rule of law in the United States. As
you mentioned the Wisconsin Cats, which I think was twenty ten,
the Guild case guil versus Witcom, I think where they
were saying, yeah, partisan jerimandering is not justiceable, even though
in that case they dismissed it for lack of standing.

Speaker 12 (01:18:37):
And then we and we remember you reported this.

Speaker 7 (01:18:39):
You covered this extensively South Carolina where the NAACP suit
and they said, well, it's a political jerremandy. Now, before
the white nationalists really took over the federal band, certainly
the Supreme Court, the justiceability of political jerimandering. And this
was all through North Carolina's Shaw versus the the Ash

(01:19:00):
for cases out of Georgia. You know, it wasn't at
all clear that political jemandarin couldn't be seen as a
proxy for race. But as they have made this more
white nationalists, more right wing, extreme white wing, they've really
obliterated that. But here's the problem, and you just laid
out the problem beautifully, brother. There is no majority and

(01:19:22):
there's no minority. They're all minorities in Texas. African people
whether they speak Spanish and English, indigenous folk and the
Mexican and Mexican Americans and white people all minorities in Texas.
The demographic time bomb that is ticking in the United
States of America is ticking loudest in Texas. There's only

(01:19:43):
so many squiggly lines you can draw before you simply
can't draw yourself into continued political domination. So what the
courts have done. And you saw this in Alabama, as
you say, with the good brother Schamari figures. You saw
it in Louisiana where they don't have just one with
brother cleof But two black congressional districts, and when they
went to the court this summer, the court ruled a

(01:20:05):
couple of weeks ago that the Louisiana Versus Kalay's case,
they rescheduled oral arguments for the next term for the fall.
That's important because the maps that are drawn in Louisiana
will stay in place. And as you said, as soon
as they try this, this damn punk ass governor of
Texas tries this with this special session, they're gonna go
to court and this won't effect the upcoming election cycle.

Speaker 12 (01:20:27):
They're gonna have to go through the courts.

Speaker 7 (01:20:29):
Well, the bottom line is this just like holding back
the sea with your hands, you can't hold back the demographics.
This is for the white Nacis who hate watch You're finished.
And no matter how many times you can brow these
quiggly lines, We're gonna go to court. And what the
courts have to decide is whether or not they are
going to sacrifice the concept of rule of law on

(01:20:51):
the altar of continuing white supremacy. If they do that,
all bets are off. And at that point, yeah, the
gloves are completely off. And even the timid people like
the uprom to California. Now you just go for broken
and I'm not sure that the country can survive.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Then yeah, and to me, reci that's where California, New
York state where Democrats are have power, You exercise power.
You say, y'all want to play that game, because here's
the deal. Republicans have done it in Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee.

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In Tennessee, they despise the fact that Democrats that Nashville
and Memphis are Democratic cities.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
So they said, you know what, Nashville, we got your ass.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
They cut so that there were two Democrats in Tennessee
in the congressional district, Nashville and Memphis. They split Nashville
into four congressional districts. So Nashville, though no longer has
a member of Congress, it's split into four different districts
that guaranteed a Republican winning. They took away, they took

(01:22:00):
a way one of those seats, and so folks have
to understand that's how Republicans have played hardball. Democrats still going, oh,
we're nice, fuzzy. No, I think we just believe in
fairness and what's right and what's just. So so we're
just gonna we're just gonna have some be real nice

(01:22:20):
about this. No, this is where you must be ruthless
when you have the power.

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
Well, I shua host so.

Speaker 11 (01:22:29):
But when they gonna start doing that, because Republicans operate
under who's gonna check me boo? And Democrats Act Act
operate under ooh no, I don't want I don't want
anybody to say anything, So let me just preemptively surrender,
or let me just water stuff down. And that's why
people are very much disillusioned with the Democratic Party. Obviously,
they are far superior in terms of their policy and

(01:22:51):
their governance, but they just don't have that killer instinct
that Republicans do. And unfortunate, Republicans only use their killer
instinct to the detriment of the American people, whereas the
Democrats want to make American life better, but they're too
fucking scared to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:07):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 11 (01:23:08):
Republicans are making sure that they can stay in power
as long as they can, as long as they need
to without actually having to earn the votes.

Speaker 5 (01:23:18):
They can cheat their way to it.

Speaker 11 (01:23:20):
But it's going to become increasingly difficult because if you
look at the balance of the House right now, seventeen
hundred votes before several Democrats died, unfortunately, but seventeen hundred
votes gave the Republicans the House majority. That was it
across three districts. There are ten districts where the margin

(01:23:43):
was under one percent, and so this is a very
very close race if you even look at massive turnout.
Republicans won the popular vote in twenty twenty four. They
haven't done that in a while, but Jerrymander had helped
them out. And so this is going to depend in
terms of twenty twenty six. Is going to depend on
if people wake the fuck up, if they finally hold

(01:24:06):
Republicans accountable, and if they will finally wake up to
the truth instead of all this disinformation that permeates and
creates its alternative reality, and make Republicans pay for what
they've done. Republicans paid for that final push to repeal
Obamacare when Donald Trump was president in twenty eighteen, and
they got wiped out. We'll see if that happened again

(01:24:28):
in twenty twenty six. But I'm still not seeing enough
energy and enough attention from people at the shit storm
that is currently here, and it's going to get even worse.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
You know, Greg, we spend an inor mount of time
trying to get people watching on our social media explaining
why voting matters.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
And you got these simple signons.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
And I ain't gonna give them no attention by by
saying their names, because they trash, They ain't wor shit,
and they love talking shit, they love complaining, they love
talking about what Democrats. They ain't done this, Democrats ain't
done that, they ain't done this, done that, and they

(01:25:18):
frankly are.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Ops and paid or not. And they're response for driving
down a black vote.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Here we go to my iPad. I need people to
understand this. Here, y'all look at the data right here.
Based on data from twenty twenty two, Texas had the
largest number of eligible black voters in the United States
two zero point nine million people in recent statewide elections

(01:25:55):
twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
In twenty twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Black voters constant about twelve percent of the total votes
in Texas. Not now, lem explain why that's actually misleaded.
While those two go together, so you have the most
eligible voters in Texas. What I keep saying, Greg, is

(01:26:22):
we're not maximizing our vote. See, I'm not interested in Oh,
well we were twelve percent of the vote.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but what was our number?

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Could we have been fifteen percent of the vote, eighteen
percent of the vote, twenty percent of the vote if
we actually maximize our numbers. I'm always saying that the
target goal I have is seventy And I know people say.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Man, brother, we're gonroll. That's real high.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
But I'm very serious because it actually we're over three
million now, So let's just say three million. If our
target goal is seventy percent, that means that of the
three million voters, two point one million votes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
That changes elections.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
And so if the Republicans try this game, we maximize
our vote, we can wipe several they asses out. So
what I keep saying to black people, whether it's Texas,
whether it's Louisiana, whether it's North Carolina and the Black Belt,
whether it's South Carolina, and yes, well it's Florida, you

(01:27:42):
cannot bitch and moan about what we're not getting and
who's not representing us if we're not showing up at
the ballot box to make our presence known.

Speaker 7 (01:28:00):
No, that's right, that's right, Roland. You know it's because
they are white'supremacists. This isn't even about politics alone. This
is the politics White's premacy. And you know your home
state has taught us the lessons in how we fight.
These are the famous cases of the nineteen thirties, forties,
and fifties. In fact, Congressman Green when he told everyone

(01:28:23):
this is right after he filed that second attempt to
impeach Disboso down the street in public housing, two blocks
from where you are. He came to your studio a
couple of weeks ago and he said, they're after my seat,
but if they get me, there'll be somebody else. It's
important any evoked the Nixon versus County case. Of course
they're in Houston, the dentist there who's memorialized at the

(01:28:46):
African American Library, at the old Gregory School. You know,
Texas showed the country how to fight. I'm talking about
black Texans when it looked most austere in the thirties
and forties with the white primary.

Speaker 12 (01:29:00):
If we have to go back to that model, we
have a model in what to do.

Speaker 7 (01:29:04):
It involves that voter participation, that voter organization and mobilization.
It involves our institutions to black church. This is the
black professional associations to sororities and fraternities. All that is
a backdrop to one want to say here. You've talked
to Greg Palast on several occasions. We must never underestimate
the importance of voter suppression. That's why you always encourage

(01:29:25):
people to check your voter registration, check your voter restration.
I'm not at all sure that the reason that we've
got to deal with Trump again isn't primarily not just disinformation,
but the fact that people, when they got ready to vote,
found themselves not on the rolls. Voter suppression is real
if we vote anywhere near our numbers. As Gary Chambers

(01:29:46):
always reminds us, we win. There are no red states
in the South. There are under organized and under mobilized states.
As he and Reverend Barbara have said many times, including
right here, Texas is not only up for grabs. Texas
can be purged of white nationalists domination simply by people
being vigilant.

Speaker 12 (01:30:03):
And finally, before anyone.

Speaker 7 (01:30:05):
Says it's not possible, we have the history to show
us that not only is it possible. That is how
we have gotten to this point. We can ignore the
trolls the ops and others. You were in Louisiana, I'd
love to hear what your thoughts were on essence vest
because now they're in a battle time. But it's the
continent Africans fought that the essence is ruined. Listen, stop

(01:30:26):
being stupid. Understand that when it comes to white nationalism,
a Frenchman, an Englishman, somebody from Texas, Louisiana and New
York City anywhere else, they find a way to come
together on the thing they agree on. Meanwhile, they work
very hard to keep us at each other's throats. And yes,
I'm talking about all you people too who are saying whatever,

(01:30:46):
it ain't no black and brown coalition. You need to
wake up and understand that white people can be at
each other's throats, but when it comes down for the
thing that they want to get done, they will hold
their nose and linked their arms like they're in the
damned Civil rights March. You and meanwhile, looking for your
here is three inches shorter than mind.

Speaker 12 (01:31:01):
I'm against you. That's stupidity, and we have never advanced
that way.

Speaker 7 (01:31:05):
Texas, I think can shock us and surprise us and
also confirm the fact that we know what to do
if it will simply go into its memory bank of
history and understand that we know how to do this.

Speaker 12 (01:31:16):
We've done it before.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Hearing go to my iPad racy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
Literally while we were talking, Reverend Barbara, Bishop Barbara just
sent this to a group text that I'm on. Like
when I say literally, I'm talking about as Greg was talking,
so talk about right timing from the Lord. He said,
we can't ignore the work in our own hood below.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
His Pew study work. We have to have it invented
and checked in.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
If Acary was faced it seriously and strategically, and GEOTV
work can't be limited to thirty days before election with
people speaking. Our efforts much started in August this year.
If MAGA and the Senate, in the House and state
legislatures are as bad as we all say, there are
sixty percent of all black folks black folk's poor and
low age. Eighty five million p people are poor low income.
In twenty twenty, fifty eight million people in this group

(01:32:04):
cast battles, making up thirty four to forty six percent
of voters in nine battleground states and more than twenty
percent in all but five states. Black voters represented thirteen
point two percent of all eligible voters. We can't win alone.
We have to build coalitions around an agenda. As of
twenty twenty two, about half of black eligible voters live
in one of eight states.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
Texas is the largest.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Number with two point nine million, probably about Georgia and
Florida two point six million each rounding out the top
eight of New York two point four million, California two million,
North Carolina one point eight million, and in my state
nine it's south cast North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Nine hundred and.

Speaker 17 (01:32:39):
Ninety thousand black people didn't vote and Trump won the
state by one hundred and sixty three thousand votes.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
Maryland Illinois one point four million each.

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
Together, these states account for fifty two percent of black
elgible voters in the fifty states and District of Columbia.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Even with a black system on the.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
Ticket and an.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
A racist Trump on the ticket.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Here's the fact we must confront and figure out from
bottom up, not just top down. In the twenty twenty
four presidential election, but turnout rate for black voters was
fifty nine point six percent according to the USA Facts.
It was a three percentage point decline in twenty twenty
four to compare to twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
This is part of a broader trend.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Trump nearly double his support among black voters from between
twenty twenty and twenty twenty. Four eight percent vote for
him in twenty twenty fifteen percent. Last year, eighty three
percent of black voters back Harris but racy. This is
the key right here, This is the critical key. I
keep telling y'all, I keep telling y'all, keep telling y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Look at that last line, forty one percent of eligible
black voters did not participate.

Speaker 11 (01:33:53):
Well, we can make the difference. We have the capacity.
We're not even talking about registering new voters with the
people that are already registered to vote. Yes, there's voter suppression,
but there are people with valid registrations. They can't get
that ass out and vote, no matter how much we

(01:34:14):
beg and plead. Now, I think that the Democratic Party
underinvests in black voters. They wait too long to swoop
on in and say, hey, y'all, how y'all doing? What's
that big head? But the fucking reality is, can we
vote offensively?

Speaker 5 (01:34:31):
Ever?

Speaker 11 (01:34:32):
Do we always gotta wait until it's a pandemic and
we drop in like flies? Or now that this big,
beautiful bill has passed, and millions of people are gonna
be knocked off of SNAP and off of Medicaid and
are going to lose their homes because Section eight benefits
are going away, and they We're like, oh shit, we
gotta get out involved. Can we maintain some of the

(01:34:54):
games that we make because that was what was on
the ballot And addition to our citizenship, we have to
start taking some accountability about the capacity that we have
that we are not exercising. Regardless of the capacity that
we are exercising that they're trying to take away.

Speaker 5 (01:35:12):
We don't even exercise all this shit over here.

Speaker 11 (01:35:15):
And then we wonder why we live in Republican trifecta states.
But then have the nerd to say, well, Democratic party
and never done shit. P met one last time you
have a Democratic Party leader in Yo State? Where is
the Republican governor, Republican leader of their legislature, Republican mayor
once the that'st time you even had a Democrat in charge.

Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
So we have to start waking up.

Speaker 11 (01:35:36):
I see so much. And doctor Carr, you talked about it.
Some of the diaspora wars. We don't need a coalition.
They over there Okay, well, shit, if we gonna be
by ourselves, can we rise the fuck up in the
positions that we have, with the capacity that we have,
since we don't need nobody, we ain't got none for
nobody else. We ain't even got to ship our own
damn selves. That's part of the problem. So yes, we

(01:35:57):
do need to stop Jerry Maher during stop voter suppression.
We definitely to stop disinformation because that's doing a number
on our ass is very very easily.

Speaker 5 (01:36:07):
The dissuasion campaign, all that is.

Speaker 11 (01:36:09):
Really really killing it will chall whoever made that investment
is getting a massive return on their investment.

Speaker 5 (01:36:15):
But if we have, if we ever.

Speaker 11 (01:36:19):
Just exercise our capacity, Rowland, I don't even think seventy
percent should be that unachievable. Look at what why Evangelico's
voted at. Look at what other groups vote at. That's
not even a massive number. Look at other countries where
people vote eighty something ninety percent. That shouldn't even be
asking too much. So the bar is in hell and
we still can't even do that much. And then we

(01:36:40):
look around and wonder why shit is fucked up. I
would love for us to be able to say that
the white folks, is gonna wake up one day because
I'm tired of being a black woman, not a two
percent shoulder and shit, eighty seven percent black men schulder
and shit.

Speaker 5 (01:36:54):
But in the meantime, in between time, what are we
gonna do about it?

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
Absolutely Barber was absolutely right, which is why I had
been saying, start now in what I say, I would say, educate, enlightened, inform, educate, enlightened, inform.
All right, y'all, I gotta go to a quick break.
We're gonna stay in Texas because the Party of Family Values.

(01:37:20):
Interesting because the wife of the Texas Attorney General, Oh,
she just dropped a bomb, a state bomb.

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The two different reactions to them on Twitter regarding their
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Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
All right, now, y'all know, I don't do gossip.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
I don't do I don't care what celebrity who they marry,
and Dayton having a baby, I don't care what they vacation.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
None of that sort of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
But what I saw this, I got to talk about
hypocrisy because the Republican Party loves talking about how they're
the family, a party of family baggals. They can't stay
in same sex marriage, they can't stand children out of
wed lie, I can't stay in abortion.

Speaker 16 (01:39:46):
And they love talking about, oh, how they just love
the Lord. They just love the Lord. They so pious,
they just love the Lord. And then we got that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
Moral degenerate who is the Attorney general in Texas, Ken Paxton,
And it's the man who was under federal federal investigation,
got indicted, should have got impeached, but the Conservatives in
the state bought off the votes and then they targeted
folks voted against him. So so Ken Paxton is married

(01:40:21):
to State Senator Angela Paxton in Texas. Now, when he
got impeached, it was an open secret about how he
a hope. See we ain't talking about him cheating.

Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
He a hope. So he's running.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
So he's running for the United States Senate Paul's show.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
It come to Senator.

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
John Cornyn's down big time in the paston maggots loved Themson.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
kN Paxton just love him, just love him.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
So his wife and Senator Angela Paxton dropped this tweet today,
and if I want, I want to show y'all two
delusional people, a really one delusional person, and.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
That's Ken Paxton.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
So here's here's Angela Paxton recy Today, after thirty eight
years of marriage, I filed for divorce on biblical grounds.
I believe marriage is a sacred covenant, and I have
earnestly pursued reconciliation, but in light of recent discoveries, I
do not believe that it honors God or is loving

(01:41:28):
to myself, my children, or kin to remain in the marriage.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
I moved forward with complete.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
Confidence that God is always working everything together for the
good of those who love Him and who.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
Are called according to His purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
Recy That's what Angela wrote.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
Recycy. Angela wrote that up, but Recye King was a
little different.

Speaker 11 (01:42:02):
Uh uh.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Recy. This is the tweet of Ken.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
After facing the pressures of countless political attacks and public scrutiny,
Angela and I have decided to start a new chapter
in our lives. I couldnot be any more proud or
grateful for the incredible family that God has blessed us with,

(01:42:28):
and I remained committed to supporting our amazing children and grandchildren.
I ask for your prayers and privacy at this time.
M King's statement a little different from Angela's recently.

Speaker 5 (01:42:52):
Sure, he's.

Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
What's that?

Speaker 9 (01:42:55):
But that.

Speaker 11 (01:42:58):
I mean it's sound like he's trying people. Whatever he
doing on the lo loo over there, Okay, you know, look,
less is more. That's what cam Paxton is given, who
has never ever been shy about anything else.

Speaker 5 (01:43:10):
And the wife, she's trying to throw a little shade.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
What she holding?

Speaker 11 (01:43:13):
Are you holding out for a Fox News Ana Win interview?
What're you going now for a girl? Go ahead, you
can spill the tea. I'm sure Charlie Kirk somewhere waiting
for that interview. Go ahead, girl, go make your rounds
because we need to hear what's going on.

Speaker 5 (01:43:25):
I mean, he has a whole rap sheet of what we.

Speaker 11 (01:43:28):
Know publicly, but what's going on it kind of sounds
like some sexual stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:43:32):
I'm just speculating.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
No, no, not racy.

Speaker 1 (01:43:35):
Remember she was one of the folks who voted Lona's impeachment.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
I saw this tweet Greg and I just had to
post it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
Girls sat there unfazed two years ago listening to how
Ken Paxton traded grannite, granite countertops, a secret cell phone,
and Uber account for one of his mistresses. So those
quote recent discoveries must be to make angela pack finally
kick that a wonkee eyed Philandra to the curve.

Speaker 12 (01:44:05):
Oh my god, wonkee eyed m Why the wonkee I
p W what about you? I mean, we don't know,
and we can only speculate.

Speaker 7 (01:44:19):
And first of all, let's just get the substance of
the only thing that really matters out of the way.
He is a Christian by definition of fascist religious extremists.
This will not put any dent in his support from
the other fascist white nationalist religious extremists in Texas. In fact,
this might actually boaster him. After all, you got a

(01:44:41):
whole ass convicted felon sitting in the White House who
was propelled to the White House by saying, when you're
a star, they let you do it. This is part
of white nationalist Christian extremism, the fallow centric, male centered patriarchy,
which says that women are playthings, women are to be
disposed with. So, if anything, this might actually allow him

(01:45:01):
to sink his fangs a little deeper into another demographic
and that is the let's say not quite in cell.

Speaker 12 (01:45:07):
But let's just say fairly unattractive.

Speaker 7 (01:45:11):
Demographic of beer bellied white men who say, yeah, that's.

Speaker 12 (01:45:14):
What I'm voting. Let me go register to vote. So
that's the important thing.

Speaker 7 (01:45:18):
He may still lead an oppose it, and if he
doesn't get this, squat five something else. But as you
were reading, as you were talking about this in recu
as well, I'm thinking to myself, what would be the
thing as you said that you could be discovered. Now, remember,
I guess this was back what September a year and
a half ago, when he was there for the impeachment
trial and the money laundering stuff where one of his
buddies was trying to help conceal the affair and all that. Well,

(01:45:42):
remember the lady he was one of the ladies anyway
that he was alleged to have been having an affair with,
was sitting there to be called on as a witness
in the trial in the library and the legislature or something,
and they never called her.

Speaker 12 (01:45:55):
Well, when they showed her walking through.

Speaker 7 (01:45:57):
The legislature, she looked as you would expect, you know,
a peroxide blind with her hair like pulled back like
a rooster in and so you know, very stand by
your man on part of Senator Paxton, until it's not
what could be the discovery. Maybe the discovery is having
dodged that bullet. Here come this peroxide blond again. Oh

(01:46:19):
you're still talking.

Speaker 12 (01:46:20):
That's it?

Speaker 7 (01:46:21):
So no, I'm just trying to think what would be
the thing after all the dirt child and done together,
which is caused real harm the people in Texas, that
would make you stop. It might be that this jawt
showed up again and she hadn't seen the phone.

Speaker 12 (01:46:35):
Wait a minute, that's the product, you know what. That's it.
So I don't know, we don't know, but I bet
you we're gonna find that money.

Speaker 11 (01:46:42):
It's because they already it down with the freaking dicky.
But it's like, okay, wait a minute, hold up, well,
how much money is coming out to you account?

Speaker 5 (01:46:52):
The money? I'm speculating.

Speaker 11 (01:46:54):
I speculate, but I'm thinking it was a little bit
too much money going out to bleach blonde, bad built.

Speaker 5 (01:47:02):
Body, whoever filled the black person?

Speaker 11 (01:47:05):
Because it says, but it says I looked it up,
hot Chad, you call me heathen, but I had to
google biblical grounds. I looked up biblical grounds. It's Okay,
Matthew Night said this is not this is the AI summary.

Speaker 5 (01:47:19):
So look, I'd be right. Elon must might have messed
with it.

Speaker 11 (01:47:23):
It says Matthew nineteen nine states that divorce is permissible
when the spouse has committed adultery or sexual immorality. I'm
just gonna leave that hangar right there. With that immorality
could mean yeah, the other one could be abandoned by
an unbelieving spouse. Considering that Kim Paxton the Lord this,
Jesus this, and his statement the unbelieving part, you could

(01:47:46):
probably cancel that out.

Speaker 5 (01:47:47):
So adultery or sexual immorality.

Speaker 11 (01:47:50):
But I'm gonna go with all the side of some
money out the door. That's what I'm speculating on what
they say.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
All I know.

Speaker 1 (01:47:57):
When I sat here and saw Kim Paxson's statement, all
I can think about was Steve Harvey.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
Said, Father God, oh, oh, Father of Godesus.

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
Again he is a fraud. And again listen, listen. Dtree
bon Hoffer, the German theologian.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
He calls it cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
Grace we understand, great, we understand grace and mercy, we understand.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Ain't nobody perfect?

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
Folk have made a mistake but when you kid Paxton,
and you and you sitting there acting like.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
Like you are Jesus is Alma Bear.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
And when you got Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick who took
that big money and kissed his kiss kid pactice ass. Oh,
and he thinks he's a high priest of Texas. Nah, y'all,
little something different. So I think this is also Angela
saying your little punk ass be no United State senator.

(01:49:03):
Damn you got that too, You got that too. Well,
it's gonna be all interesting. Oh y'all, y'all, I gotta
leave it there.

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
I just I just, you know, just have lived too
much fun with Ken, you know. And so the.

Speaker 1 (01:49:16):
Last thing, look, I already God deal with punk ass.
Ted can't con cruise uh and one of my United
States Senators uh? And I damn sure don't want that food,
Ken Paxton.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
So we'll see what.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
We'll see what the so called evangelical Republicans do over
in their primary racy. Thanks a bunch, Greg, Thanks a bunch.
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