Cops in George Floyd case appear in court; Remembering 9/11; Fox Sports rebukes Skip Bayless

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Today's Friday, September eleven and two thousand and twenty. Coming
up on rolland Martin on the Filter the four officers
accused of the death of George Floyd. We're in court today,
will tell you exactly what happened and the results of
the toxicology report. Today marks the nineteenth anniversary of the
Twin Towers bombing. Will certainly take a look back. Miami
Dolphins players say they will stay inside during both national anthelms.

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They say they're a sick and tire of the lip service.
They want to see real action when it comes to
social justice. Fox Sports Reviews skip Bayliss for his thoughtless
comments about dat Prescott bat Lean depression. Will also show
you the ladies and Joe Biden at the targets Donald
Trump and later our one hour special. Also, the results

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he's rolling Martell Martell. The four former police officers who
killed George Floyd were in courtred Derek Chauvin, j Alexander King,
Thomas Lane, and Too Thoul, who are charging connection with

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the death of George Floyd. Uh. They were in court
for emotion hearing in Minneapolis. Hennepin County District Judge Peter K.
Hill presided over a motion hearing that lasted nearly three
and a half hours as the attorneys argued over a
number of key issues in the case, including whether the
trial should be moved out of the county, whether the
defendants should be tried in one trial or separately, and
how yours will be selected. Now he is not yet

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rule on any of those motions. The family and the
attorneys hold a news conference after today's hearing. Justice for
Judge Flood June, you know, we just sent for a

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very emotional hearing. Where are people tried to kill George
Floyd's second time, they made all counter foolish allegations talking
about he died from a drug overdose. No exactly. They're

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trying to claim his the knee on his neck for
eight minutes in forty six seconds had nothing to do
with his death. They are trying to say that the
knee on his neck for eight minutes and forty six

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seconds was reasonable. They're trying to claim so as theory
about the overdose. I want to be clear about this.

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The only overdose that killed Judge Flood was an overdose
of excessive force and racism any other police department. Also, today,
the judge has disqualified the d A and three of

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his attorneys from being involved in the case. This is
the from the Star Tribune website. What happened today was
the judge decided to disqualify District Attorney UH, Mike Freeman
and three of the staffers UH, calling mill work sloppy
because they sent prosecutors to question the middle examiner, as

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he said, making them witnesses in the case. Quote, those
four are to be kept out of this case period.
I think it was sloppy not to have someone president
at a meeting with a primary witness in this case.
Let's go to our pound today. Derek Holly, President, Reaching
a Merror and political analysts makes you cross. Political analyst,
democratic strategist. Joseph Williams, Senior Editor u S News and

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Ward Report. Joseph, I want to start with you. When
you look at what took place today, you heard being
a cromp there. Uh the lawyers for the four cops.
UH suggested that that George Floyd Uh swallowed drugs Fenton
al as he was being arrested, and they say that's
what caused his death as death as opposed to the

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homicide ruling they came from the medical examiner. Well, this
is nothing new. I mean, time and again we've seen
prosecutors and around the defense attorneys try to try the victim.
In this case, it's a It's a strategy that I
almost expected from day one, because it wasn't the fact
that a police officer had brutalized this man and put
him face down. It was the fact that something else

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killed him other than brutality. I mean, we saw it
an Eric Garner, we saw it in Trayvon Martin. He
was a teenager who smoked drugs and that was the
cause of his death. But the fact be lie exactly
what that defense is. The fact of the matter is
that George Floyd was alive when he went face down
on the when Costs put in face down on the pavement.
The fact is, even if you're assuming that that he

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had ingested some kind of drugs, that does not mean
he deserve to die, and it does not mean he
had to die, uh, simple and playing. The officers had
no disregard for his life when they put him down
in that position, and none of the three other officers
stopped him, and it was clear that this was the
reason why he died. But again, this is an age
old tactic. It's also designed not only to appeal to

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a judge, but appealed to potential jurors, because they will
they will have the seed plant in their mind, even
if they say they can be fair and impartial, they
will have just this modicum of doubt that could be
enough to get them to either hang as a jury
or quit these officers. It's it's something that's not new
at all, and and quite honestly should be. It should
have been should have been expected from day one. Um

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And and again, what what what you have here? A misia?
You have the lawyers, uh for the cops, saying that
George Floyd was a danger to the community. Uh calling
talking about his past crimes, history of drug use, UH say,
calling him an x con as well. And again uh
they those attorneys, and he likely died from vince at all,

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not a knee on his neck. As if the knee
on his neck for almost ten minutes did no we
serve no purpose whatsoever, right Roland, This is a disgusting
justification that um, as was previously stated, isn't necessarily surprising
because it has happened in case after case when we're
talking about black bated women dying at the hands of

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police officers. But the frustrating part here is that police
officers aren't trained to many things aside from, you know,
how to handle crimes, but they are trained in how
to mitigate overdoses. So if the idea was, if we're
following along the line of this line that they're throwing out,
that they suspected that he was gonna have an overdose
even though he was walking around pree and clear and

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not bothering anybody and didn't look sick at all, you
would not have held your knee on his neck because
if that was the case, then you would have still
exacerbated and caused it. So I'm a little bit confused
in this case, particularly why that's the piece that they've
decided to use, but also considering that the man have
been out and he had been about four hours without
any case of sickness at all. This is a very interesting,

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you know, path to go down. But I think that
to your point a moment ago about the revelation of
past crimes or past things he had been accused of.
The interesting part about that is, anytime a white man
in America gets arrested for any reason, we don't go
down the litany of his past crimes. We just don't
um if a white man is is actually you know,
uh in in a case of police brutality, because it

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happens to white people too, just not at the rate
that it does African Americans. We don't go down the
litany of what may or may not have been in
that person's system or when when they may have encouraged
the cops before, because quite frankly, what we do know
is that in this case, he encountered the police based
on something that day, which to me and to anyone
anythinking individual knows that, you know, what he did two years,

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four years, ten, fifteen years prior to that has no
bearing whatsoever on his encounter with the police that particular day.
And I think that juries need to start paying very
close attention to the fact that one these types of
instances only happened when the when the person lying in
the ground is African American. But on top of that, um,
throughout history, we've seen victims of violent crime, specifically those

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that are that have died at the hands of the police,
be treated as the criminals themselves, and it's high time
that we stopped that. Derek. Look, the rollities is here.
There are no perfect individuals, and the reality is, uh,
if somebody believes that, uh, that George Floyd was taking drugs,
that still doesn't mean you should have someone pressed on

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your neck for almost ten minutes. What this is all
about is sowing seeds of doubt. And look what these
cops are looking for. They're looking for one person, one
person on a cheery to simply say, I don't believe
the prosecution. That's what they're looking for. Yeah, I agree
with you, and um, I think we all saw the video. UM,

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but I also agree with you guys that this should
we shouldn't be surprised by this because the defense they
have to mount something in order to just even walk
into the courtroom and and to paint this picture and
his and use his character against him is something that
they always do. With the fact that he was on
his neck for eight minutes and forty six seconds, I

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just I think that's gonna be very, very difficult to
argue in the court. The second thing is, um I
thought months ago that the autopsy report already come out
and determined that it was it was the result of
them being on his neck that caused his death and
not any type of drugs in his system. And I
also to call an interview that even Mayor Giuliani at

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the time was calling for these officers to be arrested
because even he thought that this was what these guys
did was was a cause of death, and that it
was several times where during the where he was on
his neck, that you heard people say get off his neck,
get off his neck, and that that was actually premeditated,
because you had several times that you thought about what

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you were doing, and never at once, at any point
did this guy take his take his knee off of
his man's neck. And so I just find they're gonna
have a difficult time and trying to find jurors who
haven't heard about this. But I don't think they're going
to have a difficult time rolling and finding that one
juror who will believe the prosecutors. Because after this happened,

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I had some some people called me, some white people, okay,
and they were asked, Derrick, where's your body camp, where's
your body camp? Where's your body camp? And so they
were already raising questions and doubt then. So I don't
think it's going to be that difficult to find one
juror who would maybe look at what the prosecutors saying. Alright, folks,
lets talk about the course the campaign trail. Uh. It

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actually was silent today with the focus on the nineteenth
anniversary of nine e Levin. Donald Trump and Joe Biden
both paid tribute to the nearly three thousand people killed
in the deadliest a terrorist attack in US history during
separate trips to Shanksville, Pennsylvania at Battle Round State in
the race for president. The two men on the forty
passengers and crew members who died after battling hijackers aboard

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United United Airlines flight Senta Coamala Harris. She traveled to Fairfax,
Virginia with her husband, Doug inf to deliver remarks and
he remembrance ceremony there. So today we honor those lost
in New York, Pennsylvania, and right here in Virginia. We
remember the passengers and crew members, the firefighters, law enforcement,

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peace officers, and military personnel. We remember that they were
more than victims of an unspeakable act. They were also
parents and sons and daughters and neighbors and friends. And
we know that they will never be defined by the

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story of those who stole them away. No, they will
be defined by their humanity, by their stories, by their
laughter that still echoes in the homes and hearts of
those who love them. What our attackers fail to understand

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is that the darkness they hoped would envelop us on
nine eleven instead summoned are most radiant and define human instincts.
The instinct to care for one another, to transcend our
divisions and see ourselves as fellow citizens, To race toward

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danger and risk everything to protect each other. The instinct
to unite. If we learned anything watching the heroes of
nine eleven. It's that the strength of the human spirit
knows no bounds, and that even the gravest threats against

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us only serve to reveal our true strength. That our
capacity to act with love and courage in the face
of immense challenge is what defines us as Americans. But
that's all from the attack continues to rise to this
day because those who worked at Ground Zero in the

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aftermath are dying of a number of related illnesses, including
some call it in the nine eleven cancer. That's also
as has been happening there as well. Again today you
also saw Joe Biden. He was there in New York,
did cross paths at one point with Vice President um
uh Mike Pence. They did uh greet one another. Thankfully

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both of them were actually wearing masks as well. U.
One of the things that Joe Biden did today was
he announced that he was he pulled down all of
his campaign commercials and say there's gonna be no campaigning today. Uh.
This is what he actually had to say when he landed. Um,
I'm not sure why we're not seeing it. Um, all right,

(15:22):
It's okay, do y'all see it now? Okay, here we go. Right,
I'm not gonna be making any news to day and
I'm not gonna talk about it any and I'm not
gonna nine letter. He took all our advertising down. Holidays,
we're gonna keep Okay, I'm not. You can determine what

(15:44):
I may to do, but I'm not gonna be gonna
fred confor all right, solid day. We're advertising down to
get back to the champaigne to market. Thank you. One
of the things that was really interesting that when we
were uh, Donald Trump, when he spoke in Pennsylvania, Derek,
he started talking about a couple of the terrorists who

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had been killed his administration. They had nothing to do
with nine eleven. Uh. And that struck some people as
off that he would be sitting here bragging about these
terrorists that they took out when it had nothing to
do with what took place on nine eleven. Uh. There
was a sense of campaigning in there as well. But
but thank goodness, Uh, this is a day where you

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would hope there would not be any campaigning at all.
I thought that was very interesting. Um that Joe Biden
what he said coming off the point he took down
his ads and there would be no campaign. Um. But
at the same time, I feel like with the president,
who knows I can't get in his mind or don't
know what he's thinking. I never tried to, but I
guess he felt like it was an opportunity to use

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it as a campaign opportunity on campaign trill um. But
I do know that, uh nine eleven, it was difficult time.
It's just gone time for me. I know, I was
at the time working as a national sales manager Radio
one and I was home that day, and um, living
in Fort Washington. I heard the boom and explosion when
it hit the Pentagon. Have friends inside of that place.

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So um uh, it's a it's a it's a day
that that that hits me every year, and so I appreciate,
you know, people just taking time out today because it
is a it's a day that lives uh an infamy
for a lot of people. Amaze your folks talk about
the the the empathy, if you will, of Joe Biden.

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This is what took place today in New York. I
want to get your thoughts on this right show lost mine,
very William I mean, gonna round goes away fairly, Caroline Mayor,

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you take nine her right, j d eat the last

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last down right years, William, I don't doesn't right? You
see how Mark worry. I'm not spy, all right, don't
you a proper daughters? You chee my body and he

(18:46):
was marked, David George, you didn't say, Chris Rodeo shown
that one of the things we don't We will never
expect to see Donald Trump doing anything like that, uh

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with with a ninety year old mother who lost her son,
showing that level of compassion and care. You're absolutely right.
I mean, Joe Biden is a class act, whether he
is running for office or not. What we know about him,
and what we have known about him historically, is that
Joe Biden does not have an empathy deficit. He understands
what people are going through. He's a very feeling man.
He is authentic when he speaks to people. He speaks

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to people as if he's known them for years. He
draws in on his own emotion, and he also has
a he has a good listening ear. If you're paying
attention to that clip, part of it was also he
was hearing her story and he was, you know, speaking
back to her. He was making her feel as though
she was a friend as though you know, her life mattered,
what she went through mattered. Obviously, the sacrifice of losing
a loved one mattered. And I think that for Americans

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who are looking at nine eleven right now, Americans who
may have sons or daughters who are serving in the
armed forces today, because we know the war on error,
even though we don't you know, technically say that in
the same terms anymore, is still ongoing. There's still a
lot of truths serving overseas um. Those families are still
praying that, you know, a lot of their a lot
of their loved ones returned safely. And I think that

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having somebody like Joe Biden, who has shown time and
time again that he cares, that he is capable of
showing love, that he is capable of showing the fact
that he understands and is a listener and isn't forceful,
I think that those are things that he leans on
throughout the campaign, but especially on a daylight to day
that is solemn, that means so much to the American
population that you know, is a day that he not

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only pulled campaign adds, but a day that he has
spent literally honoring not only those who died um at
nine eleven, but also the first responders, also the people
that you spoke of earlier who are still living with
the devastating health effects of nine eleven. And I think
that that says a lot about Joe Biden's character. Uh.
The thing, Joseph, is that moving forward, when you talk

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about this campaign, folks, different candids bring different traits to
the able. One of the reasons why Joe Biden is
if Polly so well, especially with older voters, is because
of what you saw in that video. That's absolutely right
role on him. You say what you all about Joe
Biden uh and his policies. He is an amazing retail politician.

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If we're gonna take it away from the from the
individual spear and talk about it from that aspect. It
blows the doors off Donald Trump when he can meet
somebody one on one and hear what they're having to
say versus a president who was talking about his own
achievements half the time and is just so remarkably tone
deaf on an occasion like today that he's talking about
a terrorist who had nothing to do with nine eleven. Uh.

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And if you take that in extrapolated, even a little
bit further you talk of you you see the fact
that he hasn't had any empathy during the COVID nineteen crisis.
And some politicians have remarked, I think was Chuck Schumer
have talked about the fact that there has been the
equivalent of a nine eleven every week since this crisis
is going on in terms of death, and and you

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extrapolate that even further, and you talk about the number
of African Americans who have died from COVID nineteen and
the fact that that we have this empathy gap between
our candidates that should make it a no brainer. For
some reason, it doesn't. Absolutely Alright, folks, Let's go to
our next story here, uh, and that is uh the moami.

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Last night the NFL returned, uh. And what took place
was the players met at midfield with their arms locked
in a unity gesture. Fans who in the stands boot
the Houston Texans were not there for the national anthem,
as was the playing lift every voice and sing. The
Miami Dolphins, though, made it perfectly clear how they feel

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about the NFL putting in racism uh on you know,
on the sidelines and things along those lines. They say
enough of all this little drama. We want actual action. Folks,
watch this video. Is it authentic that's the mystery, or
is it just another symbolic victory. Now there's two anthems.
Do we kneel? Do we stand? If we could just

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right our wrongs, we wouldn't need two songs. We don't
need another publicity parade. So we'll just stay inside until
it's time to play the game. Whatever happened to the
funds that were promised, all of a sudden we got
a collapse pocket. The bottom line should not be in
that profit. You can't open your heart when it's controlled
by your wallet. Decals and patches, fireworks and trumpets. We're

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not puppets. Don't publicize false budgets, asked depundits, and we
shouldn't have a say. If you speak up a change,
then not shut up and play. If we remain silent,
that would just be selfish. Since they don't have a voice.
We're speaking up for the helpless. It's not enough to
act like you care for the troops. Millions for pre
game patriotism. You get paid to salute lift every voice insane.

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It's just a way to save face, lose the mask
and stop hiding the real game face. So if my
dad was a soldier but the cops killed my brother,
do I stand for one anthem and then kneel for
the other. This attempt to you to fight only creates
more divide. So well skipped this song and dance, and
as a team will stay inside. We need changed hearts,

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not just the response depression enough, No more fluff and
mpty gestures. We need owners with influence and pockets bigger
than ours to call up officials. Inflicts political power when
education is not determined by where we reside, and we
have the means to purchase with the doctor prescribed, and
you fight for prison reform and innocent lives, and you

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repair the communities that were tossed to the side, and
you admit you gain from it, and you swallow your part.
And when greed is not the compass, but love is
the guide. And when, of course, don't punish skin color,
but punish the crime. Until then, we'll just skip the
long production and stay inside. For centuries we've been trying
to make you aware. Either you're in denial or just

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simply don't really care. It's not a black white thing
or a left right thing. Let's clean the whole bird
and stop arguing about which wing before the media starts
wondering and guessing. They just answered all your questions. We'll
just stay inside Derek, the players, but real clean that video. Yeah,

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And I agree with a lot of what they said
rolling because I look at what's going on in the
NBA right now with the Black Lives Matter on the
floor and all the different different signs, and the coaches
are wearing and on and do these coaches really feel
that you know what I'm saying and and and what
is that really gonna do? Um? I don't think any

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more awareness needs to be brought to what the hell
is going because this the country's burning still, the cities
are still burning. UM. So I hear them on that
right there. But then we when I go back to
back when Colin Kappainant first started dealing and we were
on You're on on on TV one, and we will
start talking about, you know, Derek, can you get this

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back to get some stuff back to the White House.
And I look at those guys because it sounded good,
it was rhyming and all that kind of stuff. But
at the end of the day, what kind of legislation
is going to come out of all of this protests,
all these cities burning, all these people being hurt and
all that kind of stuff. What legislation, what type of
reform is going to come of it? Because if that

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doesn't happen, all of this it's for nothing. And so
that's the question. Come up with the plan. What is
it that you want? And let's take it to these
elected officials. And it just can't be the congressional black cantus.
But they are. But but but the things you're talking about,
they are, uh, their players are doing this in individual cities.

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The part of the problem that people have to understand
here is that this is not just a federal issue.
Laws have to be changed on the state level and
the local level as well. But what the what the
Dolphins are saying here, Joseph, They are saying to the
owners who are mostly Republican, Hey, step the hell up.

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They learned that video. They said it, your pockets are
deeper than ours. Where are you on this use the
power of the purse? And it is all empty gesture?
And I have to agree with with with Derek on
that point that the NBA has made a standard, has
made it acceptable now to do what Colin Kaepernick did
four years ago, who might, I might add, still does

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not have a job in the NFL. Okay. So that's
that's the reason. Number one why I believe that the
players were very sincere. I believe they outlined a significant
agenda here in a way they have not. Number two,
staying inside end mask gives mass attention and saying, listen,
we're not falling for the okay doke here. We know
that you guys can do more than you're doing right now.

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You're you're you're hoping that will accept these empty slogans
and these empty gestures, and what we want from you
is to use that that mighty pocketbook. I mean, George
Jerry Jones has a net worth more than many countries.
You know, so does half the owners in the NFL. Uh.
And yet you still have them kind of shuffling their
feet and looking down and hoping that this thing will

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go away. If they allow the players to to to
do these things, and if they put lift every voice
and saying that, you know, the Neger national anthem before
every game, that's not enough. That's not what they're going for.
And I believe that in order to get significant attention,
and in order to get past the gestures, it does
have to be a shut it down kind of scenario.

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There has to be a strike that the NBA did. Uh.
That strike was very powerful and it got some legislators
back in office. Now, granted they didn't do anything, but
at least they flecked enough muscle to get the Wisconsin
state legislature to come back in and at least recognize
one of the players demands. And I think until that happens,
the NFL is not going to be anywhere near on
the same footing as the NBA. And I think that

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it's going to take much more than a rhyming video,
although that's a key and significant start to giving the
NFL some feedback about their gestures. Missia. But we've seen
window dressing and we've seen a lot of symbolism from
the NFL, and I think that historically speaking, that is
what they do. They check off a box to say okay,
it's it's essentially patterned the negroes on the head and

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saying okay, well we did so we did something, which
is all a lot to a whole lot of nothing.
So I definitely think that this team speaking out in,
you know, talking about things in the grander scheme, because
what we see with a lot of these arguments is
that the media happens to the mainstream media happens to
drill everything down to George Floyd protests. What they failed
to recognize is that people in the streets following George

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Floyd's depth were there for a litany of reasons, not
only police brutality, but also the crimes that we see
in our criminal justice system, also the moves forward, you know,
the lower funding for black students in black communities, also
housing crisis. There are a lot of issues that are
particular to the subjugation of African Americans that were brought
to the forefront and on a national stage due to
those protests that occurred across the nation but also globally

(29:56):
um in response to what we saw. I think that
having these player step out and say that symbolism is
not enough, these are the issues, these are the things
that you need to be working on. When are we
going to get to that stage and forcing their hand
because they are extremely powerful, and I think that players
coming together and understanding that their voice matters and saying
that we're not going to this This says a lot

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about them that they are refusing to step out, refusing
to take that moment to honor and and say the
pledge and do those things that you know are our
typical song and dance for in America that has continually
over and over again, activists of African Americans were not
a part of it and did not honor our rights
um And I think that at this point you see
players who are taking hold of their power and are

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forcing the hand of leadership and saying that you are
actually going to have to do something. Symbolism is not enough.
We're beyond that point, and that we're not going to
stay quiet, and we're not going to accept these little
symbols and be quiet and sit down. And I think
that that's a very smart thing for them to do,
especially considering the NFL is predominantly African American male, and
it is high time again that they start paying close

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attention to what's happening in these communities. And these players,
black and the white ones in that video as well,
are showing that they're not gonna stop. This is something
they really want taken seriously, and that leadership is going
to have to pay attention Yesterday, folks, Skip Bayless and
Fox Sports made some quite interesting comments where he criticized
Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott for admitting that he suffered from

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depression earlier this year. He also talked about, uh, the
suicide of his brother, how all of that came tumbly
down on him. Bayless said that essentially, you're the quarterback
of the Dallas Cowboys. You don't say those things. You're
a leader. Didn't sit well with Fox Sports. They issued
a statement saying it has been addressed. Uh. This is

(31:44):
their statement. They said they recognize, Uh, they were proud
of Dak Prescott for coming forward. Uh. They also said,
would you not agree with Skip Bayless's opinion on disputed
this morning, we have addressed the significance of this matter
with Skip and how his insensitive comments were received by
people intern me at Fox Sports and our audience. This
is what Skip had to say today. I want to

(32:06):
reiterate some points I made yesterday on the show about
Dak Prescott in the depression he discussed, as I strongly stated,
I have great compassion for anyone suffering clinical depression, which
is very real. If you are suffering from any form
of depression, please seek help. And this is the final

(32:31):
point one I'm told was misconstrued by many. The only
Dak depression I addressed on yesterday's show was from an
interview he taped with Graham Benzinger. DAC said that depression
happened soon after the pandemic hit, early in the quarantine.

(32:53):
I said yesterday that if Dak needed help for pandemic depression,
he should have sought counseling then. And again, if you
are suffering from any form of depression, please seek help.
I means you. That's trash. First of all his comments

(33:14):
with trash. Uh, no apology, no apology to Dak, And
that's just doubling down. I'm sorry. I think the folks
at Fox Sports should sit his ass down, uh for
a few days, because oh, I wasn't talking about that depression.
I really meant that depression. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
Oh oh no, no, no, no, I wasn't talking about

(33:36):
the depression regarding your brother committing suicide. I was really
saying that one. And he wasn't saying get treatment. He
said he's as the quarterback, as a leader, he should
not say anything. That's what he said. And if this
makes my head explode for several reasons. So I'm a
huge Dad Prescott fan. I was when he was at
Mississippi State. I am now as someone who we have

(33:59):
to remember were about Dak's history. DA lost his mother
to colon cancer, He lost his brother to suicide. I
lost my mom to colon cancer and my younger brother
died from suicide as well. So when you're talking about
depression and you're taking into context that he's had major
people in his family and his direct line pass away
and he's still able to go out, he's still able
to play, and he's still able to, you know, function

(34:21):
in society. That does not mean that you do not
have depression. It does not mean that depression isn't something
that you battle every single day. This is National Suicide
Awareness Month. To have Skip Bayless take take homage like
that and say those hateful comments about him and act
as though you know one depression matters whereas the other
one doesn't um and basically assume that because of how

(34:43):
much he gets paid because he's a quarterback, these things
eradicate the pain that he is feeling inside. This is
one of the reasons why people who have mental health
issues stay insular, and they don't talk about them because
there are people like Skip Bayless who will make fun
of you, people like Skip Bayless who act as though, um,
your income level eradicates the fact that you've gone through
some really serious trauma. And in America, where you know,

(35:04):
black men are always seen as the alpha's of everything
within our community, they are seen as not having to cry,
not not not showing emotion, not being able to have
those levels of feelings because you're always supposed to be big, strong,
tough alpha. To have that type of pressure on you
as a consistent basis as a black man in this country,
and to know that you're facing some of these extreme traumas,

(35:28):
it just is devastating and heartbreaking to me to watch
Skip Bayliss make those comments. And as you pointed out
earlier with that video, when given the opportunity to apologize
and fall on the score and talk about, you know,
mental health awareness, this jackass decides that now is the
time to pick and choose which levels of depression deserve
attention and which ones do not. I'm just quite frankly,

(35:48):
really frustrated and upset and proud of the NFL that
we're called him out proud that you know, ESPN called
him out. But now I'm looking forward to there being
some retribution on their part. He should be made to
sit down, but because there's no forgiving what he's in,
pure trash, pure trash. Joseph Well and compare and contrast
seen Jamal Hill said, Uh, Jerry Jones was wrong to

(36:12):
make his player stand at the national anthem. Suspended for
two weeks, right, Uh. Shortly after that she made some
other comments and she was out at ESPN. I mean, clearly,
clearly he needs to be suspended if we're talking about parody.
But I think one of the things you gotta recognize.
I mean, the first thought that that came by when
when I saw the clip was like skip dayliss right.

(36:34):
I mean, seriously, we're gonna listen to this guy about,
you know, Dak Prescott's mental health. But the further context
of that is there are people who do listen to him,
and it further is the narrative about black indestructibility at furthest,
the narrative about depression as not being a real illness.
It's furthest a narrative about black players in the NFL

(36:54):
not being anything more than employees and hired help for
the you know, for the Red, White, and Blue plantations.
So I absolutely was not surprised as ket Bayliss did this.
They hired him to be controversial. I am surprised that
he was not sat down or even fired for his remarks.
I shouldn't be, but I am. Uh. And thirdly, I
think that it just points out how unequally the system

(37:15):
is when you have, uh. It's also the intersection of
the Black Lives Matter thing. When you have Jamel Hill
suspended for talking smack about Jerry Jones and the Black
Lives Matter protest on Twitter, no less, not on air.
She got suspended for two weeks. Not long after that,
she was out of ESPN. And you've got this dude
talking to some stuff that's clearly got racial overtones to it,
and he's not even made to apologize, much less suspended

(37:36):
or given any kind of reprimand for this kind of
reprehensible remark. It's it's the NFL and sports in a
microposm in my opinion, Um, this is the nonsense that
we see, Um Derek, where oh, a man's van. You
don't admit to depression. That's not a leader. You keep

(37:57):
it to yourself, which is how people end up committing suiciety. Sure,
Um and man, mental health. I wrote a piece about
it a couple of years agoes in health in your post,
and it's time to address mental healless and the mental
health in the black community because it is so taboo
to talk about mental health. And as Misha said, as

(38:19):
you just said right there, if you're a black man,
you was taught just like I was by my father. Um,
you're tough and then you know you can't cry, you
can't show the softness and that kind of thing. Well,
you know, my father suffered from manager pressant because aphrenia
took his life at the age of forty nine shotgun
to the abbey. So I understand the mental health issue.
And I was when when Skip Baylor's did that right there.

(38:39):
I don't give a damn if you were talking about
mental health a year ago, today or tomorrow. The fact
that that brother came out and was able to just
speak his mind and tell people about it and not
being embarrassed about it. I was so proud of him, man,
because so many of us can't do that because we
were we fear about what people are gonna say about us,
and so right now, are one in five Americans suffer

(39:02):
from mental health. African Americans are twenty times more likely
than our white counterparts to suffer some some type of
mental health disorder. And then and then suicide is one
of the number one fact mental health disorders within the
black men, within the black man community, black men, black men.
And so if you don't talk about it, man, who

(39:25):
knows what will happen. So I appreciate that coming out
Skip Bayliss. He needs his ass kick and false need
to sit him down for that. Right there, folks gotta
go to break. We come back. We'll talk about Essence
Magazine announcing the results of their internal investigation after allegations
were made of a toxic workplace. That is next on
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one vote. Use it alright, s. This magazine has released

(42:21):
uh their statement regarding the independent review. You might remember
back in June. Actually May h a group of group
of anonymous current informer staffers released a post in medium
alleging any number of things, including sexual haraspment, alleging at
the magazine had engaged in um a toxic workplace. They

(42:43):
also all kind different things. UH. And so this is
the statement that they released. They hired a law firm
Morgan Lewis to complete this investigation UH and said this
this statement serves as a second and final update regarding
two comprehensive and independent reviews by Essence. Following anonymous accusations
level in a June twenty eight blog post against the company,

(43:07):
its ownership and executive leadership, Essence engaged the law firms
Proscyle Rose and Morgan Lewis to investigate claims of sexual
harassment and other workplace culture issues, respectively. Essences Interim CEO
Carolina Manga oversaw the full independent process. What they said
is that the allegations could not be substantiated. Uh. These

(43:29):
sexual harassment allegations against Riche Ludennis, the owner of Essence,
could not be substantiated. There were no witnesses that provided
anything uh to support the allegations. Also and here UH
they said that after thorough review of the document and
information collected in our interviews, UH, there was nothing to

(43:50):
substantiate the claims that Riche Ludentist bought the silence of
employees appointed his wife to head HR in order to
curb employee complaints or try to force employees to signed
indas after a string of layoffs and potentially libelius business activity.
It says, in fact, no witness reveal any instance of
feeling silence directly or indirectly by Mr Dennis. Also, according

(44:14):
to their statement, according to board member and former chief
executive Officer Michelle Ebanks, they did not find any evidence
to support the assertions that Miss Ebanks bullied employees, laid
off employees based on maternity leave, or overlooked qualified black
candidates for promotion. Former Chief operating Officer Joy Colin's Profits
said we did not discover any facts to suggest that

(44:36):
miss profits leadership and handling of HR functions created operational
vulnerabilities as alleged in the post regarding Chief Content and
Creative Officer Moanna Loup. Our investigation did not find that
Miss Lou treated anyone differently based on any protected category
or retaliate against anyone for engaging in legal protected activities UH.

(44:58):
They said that the investigation um UH found that several
witnesses reported hearing her make insensitive remarks. The investigation also
found that some employees working under her feel her management
style is intimidating and brash. Miss lou Is adamant that
it is not her intent to bully anyone. Further, regarding
the claim that Miss Louis and Mr Dennis had a
personal relationship, investigation found that there's no evidence if they

(45:21):
had a personal relationship or that that or that they
even knew each other before Miss lu joined Essence. Regarding
the claims of an unhealthy work culture. As to pay inequity,
we did not find we we did not receive any
concrete examples of alleged pay in equity, and for the
few employees who felt they were unfairly paid, review salary
information and market data, and we were not able to

(45:41):
substantiate these claims. With respect to colorism and classism, we
did not receive any reports of colorism or classism in
our interviews and were unable to substantiate these claims. Uh
It says the investigation did not find any evidence of
conduct that would amount to unlawful discrimination, harassed, or retelly ation. However,
its substantiated quote a widely shared sentiment that employees feel

(46:05):
overworked and underappreciated, largely due to how they feel about
work pressure, work life balance, recognition, performance, management and transparency
regarding compensation and advancement review acknowledge that quote many of
the issues that employees feel contribute to the work culture
existed undertip Ins ownership before Essence was acquired in two

(46:25):
thousand eighteen. So here's the question. Uh. And there were
other other things that are in here. Uh. And it
says that Dennis Richelieu will continue in his capacity as
owner and chair of Essence UH and uh Longo will
continue in her interim CEO role. This is what this
this raises now the group of Bisha that's that submitted UH,

(46:49):
that posted this claim. They also have an Instagram account. Uh.
There's been no there's been no response to this. Now
granted this was of course firm hired by by S.
They laid it out, they said they want to be transparent. Right,
here's a question. The question is this here though the

(47:10):
allegations that they made on June serious allegations. The question
is will they now come out with a statement, And
if they don't come out with a statement, do we
treat what they said as lies? And does it also
cause pause for anybody to report these types of things

(47:33):
in the future, Because it's very easy to make an allegation.
But the cord of this report, nothing can be substantiated.
So the people who made the allegation, they now should
come forward and even reveal themselves if they have information,
yes or no. No, you're absolutely correct, because this puts

(47:56):
them in a very interesting position. Um. I was all in,
you know, after like many people were after reading the
initial allegations, because they were so descriptive. Um, they were
very much meaning of an attack worthy specifically around the
sexual harassment, but also around people getting fired because they
were pregnant and you know, cases of workplace brutality and
these other issues. And I think that you know that

(48:17):
the threats that they lodge because you know, there was
a point where they said, by a certain day, we're
gonna release names, We're gonna come out with more things
that these people don't resign or if you don't get
rid of the CEO and a few other people down
that line. And right now we're seeing from an independent investigation. Yes,
Essence hired and outside firm to do the work like
Box has done when they've been accused of things as well,
and kind of like any UH network or publication does

(48:40):
when they get these types of allegations they take them
seriously and they have to. But what we're going to see,
I think, UM is a response from these from these women,
because if there isn't, then you're right to your point. Um,
this this whole thing goes into Okay, well, a group
of people decided to lie for whatever reason and try
to take down the magazine. But the bigger issue would

(49:00):
be for those who are being abused in their workplace
because several we know that several people across you know,
media channels have have spoken out and several people are
afraid to speak out because because of the power of
the executives in front of them. In this case, I
think that there was a lot of attention page to
what was going on in essence, or what was alleged
to have gone on in essence. They got a lot
of attention from that medium articable article. And now the

(49:22):
ball is in the court of the accusers to come
forward or at least provide whatever evidence they feel that
they have UM. And that's gonna be hard to do
at this point because after an independent investigation found absolutely nothing,
not even a hint of what they were saying was there. Um.
It's gonna be interesting to see how they respond, and
the fact that they haven't said anything already. I think
it's also questionable because remember when they announced these allegations,

(49:45):
there was a very strict timeline around the time that
they wanted Essence to respond. Now the ball is in
their court, and these things really happen. If they did,
where's the evidence of it? Joseph I am on the
page on Instagram, the take back Essence page. On this
page again, they have June b f A exposed abuses

(50:06):
and essence demanding removal of c suite. Uh. Then they
have on here July three, Essence c Suite surrendered. Uh,
it's still has to protect black women. Now when you
click this. They released a statement on July second, today
said Timbery eleven. They haven't released they haven't said anything

(50:26):
in two months. Um. If you look at what uh
they laid out. Uh, they laid out a number of
different things that they wanted. So do you believe that? Again,
folks don't want to call out that they want they
want to. They want to they want to believe. Uh. Certainly,
folks say we want to believe women, but you kind

(50:47):
of also got to back up your claims when you
throw some stuff out there and for them all of
a sudden to go silent after two months, after the
New York Post has picked it up, after the New
York Times has picked it up. If you also on
their page, go back to my iPad. You see here
will they target it? Sponsors of essence? You see uh

(51:10):
Latia war there with target you see uh. You see
an executive with a T and T. You see all
of this, And so how then do we in the
future treat some group that comes out anonymous and this
is not just all their black media company. But the
fact is, all right, you kind of get it back

(51:30):
up what you're alleged. Well, and that's part of the
problem is that not only have they promised receipts and
not delivered on that, they named names and they also
failed to deliver on their own timeline. So you have
two problems here as I see it. The first is
the lie is always stickier than the truth, or I
should say usually stickier than the truth. So people tend

(51:51):
to remember the headlines about the scandal. They don't always
necessarily pick up on the fact that the scandal investigation
of the investigation of the scandal. We feel a big
nothing burger in there. So that's that's problem number one.
Problem number two, says you allege, it's going to make
it that much more difficult the next time serious, real
allegations come along, the next time somebody really does have
a complaint and wants to use the shield vananimity for

(52:14):
fear of actual literal retribution. So this is a big
problem for the accusers. And I'm like Alicia, I think
they're going to remain undercover because they've got nothing here,
and if they come out, they're going to be the
subject of ridicule. If they're made an answer for these accusations,
it's going to be a major problem for them. It's
easier to accuse again behind the shield vnanimity than it

(52:34):
is to reconcile with the truth or give their version
of the truth. So it's a there. There were things
that they say it again. They accused the CEO owner,
They accused the owner of the magazine of sexual harassment,
accused him of cheating with the staffer. Uh then accused
the former CEO of braiding people, uh as Smile was

(52:57):
on maternity leave, you know, telling the people that they
could walk out of the door. And when you listen
to these allegations. Uh, you know, they sort of laid
out again this real toxic, toxic workplace um. And again
I totally understand that this was an investigation UM done
by a group hired by Essence. The problem is this

(53:21):
anonymous group. They've said nothing in two months now. Essence
released a previous statement in August. Okay that definloe sexual
harassment issue. Now this second part, and so for this
group to say nothing for two months, you now, then
the question is this here? If you're the CEO of Essence,

(53:45):
who gives you an apology? If you're before, if you
if you're Michelle Ebanks, the former CEO who Power does
to you? If your Joy Profit? Who Power Dozes to you?
Who I mean who says, oh yeah, I know we're
accused of these things, but it really wasn't true. And
what this really hurts? And who this really hurts? The

(54:05):
next time somebody else, whether it's me too or any
other group, make allegations, folks gonna be like, well, you
know last time we reported this and that was no
there was no fire where we thought there was smoke.
Bro I agree with you everything you said, which is surprising,
But at the same time, you know, you gotta wonder

(54:27):
is this was this a real group to put these
things out there? Was it something to destroy Essence magazine?
And so this is why I got a problem with people,
you know, who do who put these kind of things out,
These so called whistle blowers. You whistle blowers need to
come forward. We you, We should be able to see
and view the people who are accusing us. And so

(54:48):
as everything that you Messha said, everything that Joe said,
everything you said, I agree with man, And so it's
gonna make it difficult for the next person to come
through to to file something like that for the same
up like this happened. But more importantly, these people's reputations
have been damaged by who and so there's no retribution

(55:09):
for them, and there's no apology for them, and so
they had to just walk away and say, Yo, it
didn't happen. Um, we investigator said it didn't happen. But
we still don't know who accused us of it, and
for all we know, it could have been just someone
who came in and just trying to again take down
Essence magazine. And that's just unfortunate because people should not
be able to put stuff out there like that without
coming forward and saying who they are honestly, Joseph doesn't

(55:30):
also call for the folks had Medium to put some
This is why you have editorial strength, because basically, with Medium,
anybody can anything. There's no vetting, there's no nothing right. Well,
and if I were if I were Essence, I might
be stroking, stroking my chin and thinking about, well, what

(55:51):
kind of action needs to be taken against the company
that will put this stuff out there without fabrication? Is
there any journalistic responsibility on Medium's part? And are they
lie ball for these fictions apparently that have been laid
on Essences and Nate. I think that it's a very
appropriate question, and I think if I were advising them legal,
I'd have to I'd have their legal team look into
it because this also could hurt the next person that

(56:13):
comes along that can post anything they want on Medium
and have no retribution for it. And in Amasia, again,
if the women who made these allegations, if they've got something,
I'm sorry it is. It is disrespectful and wrong to
go silent for two months. It's disrespectful. After Essence releases

(56:38):
the first uh statement, Hey come out and say we
didn't trust the law firm, and we were not going
to talk to them and share it. Okay, fine, take
it to an outside alterney, take it somewhere else. But
for two months to go by and nothing, no medium post,
nothing on Instagram, nothing, You they brought severe damage to

(57:01):
the personal reputation of the people involved in the magazine
and sponsors. And here's the deal. You don't get to
unwind that for the rest And this is the thing
that people can understand for the rest of eternity. When
somebody google's riche lu Dennis, this is gonna pop up

(57:21):
so and and that's the damage that's caused when allegations
are made that cannot be substantiated. And again, hey, if
they got proof, it's time to present it. Otherwise what
they posted was a lie. You're absolutely correct. And again
the post was so detailed in its allegations that it

(57:43):
raised the ire of so many people. And you know,
it seemed like a me too hodgepodge of so many
things going on at once, between workplace violations and sexual
harassment to you know, a litany of abuses for pregnant women, um,
people getting fired without cause or people not having you know,
pay equity. There was so much in there, and for
them to have been so stark, I think in their

(58:04):
demands and telling people that they wanted this person to resign,
they want the CEO out, they wanted other C suite
executives out as well, within a deadline of less than
a week or they were going to release more information
in all of this, and I think that you know,
it was a very strategic plan to try to push
essence and to show their hands to a certain extent,
and they had to know that an independent investigation was
going to go on at some point they had to

(58:25):
do that, they would have to provide evidence and to
your point, role and if it was a matter of
them not necessarily trusting the firm that Essence brought in,
this is the point where you suggest to have something else.
This is the point where you start, you know, leaking
other things. This is the point where you respond this
isn't the point where you fall did since June and
don't say anything after basically calling to question the integrity

(58:46):
of essence. Essence is corporate culture and also pushing so
hard against essence at the height of the Essence bets.
Let's be mindful of the time at which this information
was released. It was what during the first couple of
days of Essence best. They also targeted the advertisers and sponsors,
and they really want to serve as a basically nail
in the coffin of Essence, which is one of our
strongest and longest running black magazines. And it's one of

(59:08):
those situations where now there are rightful questions coming out
of this, because if these allegations are true, or if
they have any you know, any inch in fact, it
would seem that the women who were making them would
not be silent right now. They would have something to
say as to why either they didn't present certain things
to this um, to this independent firm, or what is
what is next to come? Because if not, what's going

(59:29):
to end up happening is a lot of defamation um
and a lot of pushback. But to your point, even
with those things, once the information is out there, it's
out there. There's damage done to the reputation of Essence.
There is damage done to the reputation of those who
are called out in that medium article, regardless of whether
these women come forward or not. Look, I I have

(59:50):
used anonymous sources. I have done stories using anonymous sources.
And the reality is, when you're a journalist, you're also
staking your credibilit When somebody is an anonymous source, there's
a vetting process. I would dare say when you talk
about um medium, Look, you simply cannot have an outlet

(01:00:12):
I don't care what they are where somebody can post
whatever they want and then people pick up and they
run with it, and it's on social media and all
of a sudden, other mainstream outlets pick that, pick it
up and treat it as serious. And again, the damage
here is that the next time somebody has some allegations,

(01:00:32):
folks are gonna say, you know what, I'm not gonna
report that. I'm not gonna do a story on that,
because frankly, are you telling me to just take your
word for it? No? That standard, uh, that standard, real
standard has to be applied. And I just think I
just think it is shameful. It is shameful that black

(01:00:52):
female anonymous. And again they could be watching and me
piste off from me right now, but I'm sorry, you
had better say something. We we we got this email.
We got this email. Um, we got this email from
the folks in essence, um what on Monday? On Monday

(01:01:12):
four days have gone by. Nothing, not a word, not
even a notice saying hey we're gonna comment next week.
Nothing deir final comment. I was just gonna stay it
just kind of what I said beginning. It just kind
of makes you wonder, was this real? Who are these people?
Was it a real organization? Deal? You don't know. You
don't know because it's anonymous. You don't even you don't

(01:01:35):
you don't know, right, you have nothing. We don't know
if they're actual black females, we don't know if they
actually worked there. We don't know who it is. And
that's the deal. And again, you heard the reputations of
the individuals. You heard, you heard the reputation, and one
of their demands was for Richly Dinners to sell the magazine.

(01:01:55):
That's not a next say that's that's at yeah no, no, no,
no no no. You know it was by design to
inflict uh serious damage because you were targeting the advertisers
of the very festival that they were putting on. So again, hey,

(01:02:16):
take back essence on Instagram. Say something, say something, come
out and say something, because if you say nothing, frankly,
the allegations were trashed. The allegations were trash. And your
silence admits the allegation was trash and that is shameful

(01:02:37):
and despicable. If you stand by it, stand by it,
release a statement, say something. But you don't all of
a sudden go silent because you're damn sure weren't silent
in the medium posts. You damn sure it warn't silent
on the Instagram post. But now of a second, when

(01:02:59):
the rubber meets the road, now you have no voice. No,
that's not protecting black women, that's using black women. And again,
if you got proof, put up, because you clearly have
shut up. Makesha Joseph and Derek I. Sull appreciate your

(01:03:20):
being on the show today. Thank you so very much.
Folks got to go to a break. We come back.
Our focus on the US Census. Not many days left
in order for you to be counted. We are going
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Young black men and young children of color are historically undercounted,
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Start at its dot gov. Alright, folks, we've been the
focus on the Census for the past month because we

(01:06:21):
are rapidly approaching the deadline when they're going to uh
start to start a compiling information. Now we've laid out
in many cases again, how why it matters how important
it is and what it means to our community. Turning
us right now. It's Marylyn Stephens. She is the assistant
Regional Census manager. Certainly glad to have you, hear Merrilan,

(01:06:42):
how you doing? Thank you, Roland, It's so good to
see you again. You probably don't remember we met a
long time ago when you were in Chicago, and you
were so gracious when we you were first there and
we met you to talk about the census, and so
you've been a champion for a very long time. Well,
it's all about what's constitutionally mandated. It also impacts us financially.

(01:07:05):
I gotta ask you this here in terms of so,
so where do we stand in terms of the door knocking?
I know that was a ruling earlier this week. Uh,
will the door dock can continue? Pass the deadline? I
think it was? Was it September? Uh? What's the status
on the count right now? Our our mission is to

(01:07:27):
complete our field operation by September. So we are visiting
non responding households. We're also making telephone calls and non
responding households, and we are still encouraging people to respond
online or to call our toll free number and respond
by phone. So when you say you are going back
to knock on the doors of non responding households, how

(01:07:49):
did you even arrive at those non responding households. Well,
you know, in a census, we go with self response. Um,
so we send you information to particip paint in the census.
We started that on March twelve. You had an online
telephone and mail option for the first time in history.
To the pandemic slowed us down a little bit. But

(01:08:11):
about obviously eleven, we took a look at all of
the addresses that it had not responded at all, and
so we dispatched our huge workforce to go to knock
on those doors and to secure those interviews from those
non responding households. So so you so you so you're
you're going back? How many times do you go back

(01:08:33):
to the house So let's say they didn't respond the
first time, unless they don't respond again, I mean, do
you only go back one time? Or do you do
you go back three or four times? Right, We're gonna
make six attempts on that household. We're also going to
see if we can get an interview from a neighbor,
a building manager Homeowners Association. But our first attempts are

(01:08:56):
really to the primary household to get them to respond
on and when we come, we're going to leave a
notice of visit. If no one answers the door, and
that notice a visit will say the Census beer has
been here to interview your family for the census that
is required by law. We may come back again today. However,

(01:09:18):
if you respond within two days of receiving this notice
online at dot gov or by phone at eight four
four three zero two oh two oh, we will not
come back. Now there are how many people do you
have out in the field who are doing the work, Well,

(01:09:38):
we have close to three hundred thousand UM enumeratus knocking
on doors. Also, we're also UM taking a look at
a telephone numbers, so some of you will receive a
telephone call and not a personal visit. So we're security
interviews UM by telephone as well as personal visits and

(01:10:00):
uh and so so you have to have those numbers. Uh.
And again when you say by September uh the court
ruling what happened? Do you simply wait to see if
that gets appealed, if it goes somewhere else, Because according
to the court ruling, folks continue, We're supposed to continue
to being counted, pasteb well m Our instruction is to

(01:10:23):
continue the work, and that's why we're continue to make
telephone calls the households. We continue to visit households. Our
online instrument is open so that you can still respond online.
Our call centers are open from seven am to two
a m. In the morning every day. So until we're
told something differently, we will continue to secure our interviews

(01:10:45):
for every household in the nation. Also, just um that
was another ruling in terms of that stated that folks
who are undocumented must also be counting. So when you
talk about counting, are you are required to count everyone?
We all, we count everyone until we told differently. With

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my twenty two years for the Census Bureau, we count
all persons without distinction. People would ask, uh, you know
one of the requirements uh for being in the census,
I said, breathing on us soil on April one, and
and so that's uh. And so look that's whether you
live in apartment and live in a house, whether you're homeless, uh,

(01:11:28):
you know, and and also the hard to reach people,
how are you also uh, doubling back for the for
the hard to reach people, and from your numbers right now,
what's the what's the highest penetration rate do you have?
And then what's the littlest where do you still need help?
In folks responding well. Traditionally, minority communities have a strong

(01:11:50):
mistrust of government, so there's always a challenge in the
black community. But we are soliciting help from our partners.
We have more than four hundred house of partners nationwide,
faith based partners, elected officials, community partners, and it's all
hands on debt business partners, and they're all really working

(01:12:11):
hard for this last ditch efforts. They're having caravans because
we're in the pandemic and we're doing so many things virtually,
so they're having census caravans through low responding neighborhoods. UM.
Some cities are having raffles to get people to respond.
All of the superintendents to all the school districts nationwide

(01:12:32):
are constantly sending messages home to parents to say, please
be counted, do it today. So there's going to be
an all out effort to get people to be counted.
And UM again, not much time left. Nineteen days uh,
and are you also are those also? Are those enumerators?

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Are they also working seven days a week? Are they
working Sunday through Saturday? Yes, we are working seven days weeks.
Someone called me on Monday and said there's an enumerator.
It seemed to be in my neighborhood. It's labor day.
I said, we're working seven days a week to fulfill
our constitutionally mandated mission to ensure that everyone is counted.

(01:13:15):
All right, and uh, Marylyn Stevens whould appreciate it. Thanks
a lot, Thank you for always being a wonderful Sensus partner.
All right, thank you very much for It's gotta go
to a break. We come back. We'll chat with Mark Motreal,
who is the president CEO of the National Urban League.
Back on roller markin unfiltered, it's rough out there. People
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at your fingertips sentences. Census takers will be visiting households
to make sure we are counted because an undercounting community
could miss out on billions of funding for schools, healthcare,
and job assistance each year for the next ten years.
Too much is at stake. We spun online today shape

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your future and start here centers dot com. Is Martin Matreal,
President CEO of the National Urban League, Mark glad to
have you back on rollerball. Great to be with you,
and once again, congratulations on Roland Martin Unfiltered. UH. You're
greatly admired and respected for bringing truth to the community.
Thank you very much. I appreciate it, sir, Thank you

(01:14:18):
so very much. Proud of becoming here. I heard the
Urban League. Of course, we're mayor of New Orleans. You
saw firsthand how important the census was when people actually
filled it out. So give up, folks are understanding of historically, Yeah,
I've had this is this is really my fourth census.
I was a member of the city's Complete count Committee.

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Of course, in two thousand, I was president of the
U S Conference and Mayors while I was Mayor of
New Orleans and led the effort to ensure that all
of our people were committed in New Orleans in two thousand.
In two thousand and ten, I had a chance to
serve as President Obama's UH chairperson of the National Census
Advisory Council. This year, we've created the Black Census Roundtable

(01:15:03):
UH to hold the Census accountable and to encourage our
community to participate in the census. So where this is
today is we, of course, are the lead plaintiff in
one of the lawsuits against the Census Bureau and we
received from Judge Lucy co of the Federal District coord
in California a temporary restraining order which requires the Census

(01:15:26):
to continue counting as long as that restraining order is
in effect. What happened here Roland is that at the
advent of COVID, the Census Bureaus suspended its operations and
delayed its field or door knocking operations for a significant
period of time. We called on them at the time

(01:15:46):
to extend the door knocking period past its original deadline,
which was August thirty one, and they did that by
extending it to the end of October. That they came
back and unilaterally decided to cut thirty days off of
the door knocking period. And our concern is that that

(01:16:06):
act will cause many Americans, many black Americans, many brown Americans,
many poor Americans to be uncount counted in this census,
because what they've done is they've taken what was originally
an eight week door knocking time frame and crunched it
into just four or five weeks, So that court decision stands. Now,

(01:16:29):
there's another hearing in the Federal District Court in California,
UH next week where we are requesting a permanent injunction
or preliminary injunction to prevent Census Bureau from discontinuing account.
What this is about is censors should do everything possible,
everything in its power, everything possible to make sure that

(01:16:53):
all people are counted, particularly in a COVID environment, particularly
in a situation where door knocking is difficult, because people
need to remain UH safe and healthy. And and so
we are going to continue to push and press. Now
in addition to that role of our community, we've got
to remind, encourage, cajole, and push our community to participate

(01:17:18):
in this census because it's about political power, and it's
about money. And when and again UM talked from that
perspective of mayor. Um, you were in that seat when
you had to make budget cuts, when you had to
make priorities whereas where spending comes from. And the reality
is when you were looking for resources. Uh. Look when

(01:17:40):
you came to d C, they pulled out those census
tracks UH to determine exactly what New Orleans should should
not get just so right Roland. The census count is
used UH to determine how much money cities, counties, and
school districts receive with respect to many programs, the snap

(01:18:03):
of food Stamps program, the Community Development Block grant program,
workforce dollars, school lunch dollars. The formula to determine how
much money goes into a given county or a given city,
or even into a given neighborhood is determined by the
county that takes place in the census. So it's crucial
that we are counted not to mention reapportionment not only

(01:18:27):
of congressional seats, state legislative seats, council mantic seats, county
commissioners seats. In states where judges are elected by districts,
the judiciary depends indeed on the census. So this is
so import We can't sleep this. We can't sleep this census,
particularly in this environment because we go into a round

(01:18:51):
of reapportionment two where right now we do not have
a Section five of the Voting Rights Act, and this
would be the first time the protectors. Now we're gonna
fight hard, uh, certainty, and this election is so critical
to make sure that we get a new voting rights
at passed, hopefully in early people. When you talk about representation,

(01:19:13):
I mean just the other day I saw where UH
Texas finally stepped up and decided to spend money on
a census because the folks they are realized, oh damn,
we actually could gain three seats in Congress based upon
population shift. But if folks don't get counted, we stand
to lose those three seats. That's political power of the

(01:19:36):
nation's capital. That's why I mean I was highly critical
of Governor Abbot as well as UH the Senor General,
the Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, saying what the hell are
y'all doing? Not spending money in the census hurts Texas.
Hurts Texas, hurts the people of Texas. And then many
states where governors uh and and salitary generals have been

(01:20:00):
narrow minded, thoughtless about this. Look, every state should fight,
every governor, every marriage, every county is that should fight
to make sure all of their people are fully and
completely counted. And so I want to remind people in
the community that the census is a place based and
and I hope you can help us by emphasizing this
a place based count. So you have to count everybody

(01:20:22):
in that dwelling, whether they are related to you or not.
It's not each family gets a census form. It's one
census form that you fill out per dwelling, for house,
for apartment. So if your sister lives with you and
she has two children, they've got to be counted on
the very same form. If your mother, your father, or
maybe an older aunt lives with you, they've got to

(01:20:44):
be counted on your form. In twenty ten, many black children,
many Latin X children were missed in the census to
some extent because people were not aware to include them,
and it's important to include them. And because it's confidential,
people should not be concerned about quote whether they have

(01:21:05):
restrictions in their leases, and they might get in trouble
because that information you give, the senses taken is going
to remain confidential with the senses your landlord, it's not
gonna get that information. Um. Obviously, civil rights groups have
been very involved in this. Churches have been involved in
this as well in terms of get in terms of
terms terms of get the information out. Why is it

(01:21:26):
so hard to count black folks, and you know and
historic distrust. Uh. And you know how in our community
we have many, many people who are very cypically engage,
very activists oriented. We have people who don't trust the system,

(01:21:47):
and they have great justification the historic legacy of exclusion.
We've got to overcome that by understanding this is a
tool of empowerment. Account is not account just to know
how many people are in the in the country, although
that's important. You need to know how many children, how
many seniors. You need to understand how many men, how

(01:22:08):
many women, how many people of each race in each city,
every every every county, every state. Uh. It helps in
the formulation and the shaping of public policies and solutions,
and the distribution of money and the distribution of power.
So it shouldn't be as hard. Now, I will say this,
I don't think that the Census Bureau has historically done

(01:22:32):
everything they can do in order to ensure that black
and brown people are counted. UH. I've recommended for the
last two cents of cycles that centers engage and funded
partnerships with churches and unions and community based groups so
that they can go throughout the community. They've got a

(01:22:54):
voluntary partnership program. Okay, that's great, but they need to
do more to ensure that people accounted, and they need
to do more funded partnerships. And it's not just about
paid advertising. And as you know, we have been in
a battle to ensure that black owned media get a
fair shape, that media that focuses on black communities and

(01:23:16):
broad communities get a fair shake in a sense to
spend well. And then at that point about reaching those
hard to get people. And then again it's it's folks
who know the communities where people and the community that
that they actually trust. I mean, it's a little hard
to send somebody into a community who folks have no
relationship with and they have never seen. You know, the

(01:23:37):
communities are based on trust. Uh. You know, elections work
that way, the census works that way. Our communities are
based on trusted voices, established leaders, grass roots leaders, community leaders,
public housing resident leaders, union leaders, UH, leaders of community
clubs and community organizations, faith based leaders, local elected officials,

(01:24:00):
h the whole network of people that people have chosen
and that people support to be their leaders. Uh. They
are the ones that can help. So I'm I'm asking
now we're gonna keep op pressure our loss and is Bible.
It's strong, UH, it has great merit. I certainly want
to thank Kristen Clark in the Lawyer's committee. They are
representing the National Urban leg and a coalition of other

(01:24:22):
organizations in this litigation. I might add roll in. In
addition to the litigation we've filed against the Census Bureau,
we've also filed litigation against the Postal Service and UH
to ensure that the games and the efforts to suppress
and undermine the work of the Postal Service so they
could do the job they have to do to make
sure that every ballot gets to the clerk, gets to

(01:24:45):
the Elections Commissions office on time. So we are being
asserted we're gonna be aggressive. We're gonna push as hard
as we can and may show that the people are
protecting the People's rights are affirmed. Mark Maria, President CEO
National Urban League. I certainly appreciated. Thank you so very much.
Thank you. ALPHA is always leading. Thanks a bunch, Yes, sir,

(01:25:08):
I gotta go to a break. We come back. We'll
talk with Genetta b. Cole, National Congress and Negro Women
next on Rolling Martin Unfiltered. Hi, I'm Angela Fascett and
you've got one vote, use it. Our community comes together
to support the fight against racial injustice. I want to
take a second to talk about one thing we can

(01:25:29):
do to ensure our voices are heard, not tomorrow, but now,
have your voices heard in terms of what kind of
future we want by taking the tween twenty cents is
today at twins dot gov and folks, let me help you.
The census is account of everyone living in the country.
It happens once every teen years. It is mandated by

(01:25:50):
the U s Constitution. The thing that's important is that
the census informs funding billions of dollars how they are
spent in our commun duties every single year. I grew
up in Clinton Park in Houston, Texas, and we want
to We wanted new parks and roads and Senior Citizens Center.
With a census helps inform all of that and where

(01:26:11):
funding goes. It also determines how many seats your state
will get in the US House Representatives. Young black men
and young children of color are historically undercount which means
a potential loss of funding of services that helps our community. Folks,
we have the power to change that. We have a

(01:26:32):
power to help determine where hundreds of billions in federal
funding go each year for the next ten years, the
funding that can impact our community, our neighborhoods, and our
families and friends. Folks. Responses are confidential and can't be
shared with your landlord, law enforcement, or any government agency.

(01:26:53):
So please take the twenties censes today shape your future.
Start at cents is dot gov. What's up? This is
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(01:27:16):
What up? Artist Smith? The man Mighty Mutan claim? You're
watching Uncle Roland Martin and the show was unfolkesed. Make
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Black women have all always been involved in issues in
our community that includes the census as well. Joining us
right now is Dr Genella B. Cole. She's the president

(01:27:36):
chair National Counsel of Need Grow Women. Dr co How
you doing, Oh, my brother, I am doing well, And
you know I want to thank you because you do
such righteous work. You do the good Lord's work, and
she's got plenty of it. Well, we certainly appreciate it.

(01:27:56):
We're all about uh doing the work and getting folks
hell as much as we can. Let's let's let's talk
about let's talk about this here. Obviously, black women extremely
focused on the election, but there are a number of
organizations that have also been very focused on ensuring that
we are counted in this census to ensure that our

(01:28:17):
community gets the money that we richly deserve. Well, I
can tell you at the National Council of Negro Women,
we are unbelievably focused on two expressions of responsibility. One
is the census. You know, we as black women, along

(01:28:40):
with black men, have been unseen, unappreciated, and unaccounted. But
the second focus is obviously on voting. We don't have
a whole lot of time in order to get both
of these tasks done, and I am particularly concerned, as

(01:29:04):
all should be concerned, that this administration has shortened the
amount of time for participation in the census. It is
now the end of September. We are in a pandemic. Well,
actually we're in a couple of pandemics. But given what

(01:29:25):
time we do have, we gotta make haste because, as
our brother, President Dent Mark Morial said so brilliantly, so convincingly,
everything matters here, our resources, our political power, the the

(01:29:49):
ability to be able to count folks. One of the
things that Mark said that I think people really do
ignores that when you talk about the censors, everybody in
the household counts. So for instance, I've got two nieces
who are being raised by me and my wife. They're
not our biological children, but in our household, that's for
people who should be counted, not just the two of us.

(01:30:10):
And that that that's an important distinction because when you
we leave folks off, that's literally resources that we're leaving, uh,
that that that that were that were leaving out, or
that that was simply go elsewhere. And you know, my brother,
this is so much at the heart of our community.

(01:30:32):
We have always taken the notion of kinship to mean
far more than in quotes blood and so folk live
with us, Folk live with us because we care about them.
Folk live with us because they don't have any other
place to live. This sensus must count every living African American.

(01:30:59):
That's use a broader term black person, because we know
that historically and Historically, black folks, brown folk, indigenous folk,
immigrant folk have been undercounted. Think how much we're leaving

(01:31:21):
on the table. They could go to our schools that
could give us better roads, that in this pandemic, could
create better health care availability for us, not to mention
those programs on which no fault of our own, we

(01:31:43):
have to depend. And so at the National Count of
Negro Women, we are taking this so seriously that we
are in a formal partnership with fair Count. Now you
know our sister Stacy abral So do I. After all,

(01:32:03):
we were at Spelman College together. And when Stacy's rode
to the governorship was stolen, I mean in broad open
daylight stolen, she started to organizations. She started Fair Fight
to push back against voter oppression. I'm sorry that is

(01:32:28):
a good word oppression, although is usually called suppression. But
she also founded Fair Count, and organization dedicated to making
sure that under represented people are counted. And so we

(01:32:48):
in partnership with fair Count, we have something called Sista's count.
Sistas count, we do count. And because understand that historically
and historically black women have often taken care not enough

(01:33:09):
about themselves and a whole lot about others, and so
we're urging our sisters to continue that tradition, except we
need a little more self care. But make sure that
everybody in our household is counted. Talk to our neighbors,

(01:33:31):
tell everybody that you see. Make sure you're accounted, because
so much that we need power and resources depend on it.
Last question for you, um, and and that is um.
You know, obviously folks are knocking on doors. The ability

(01:33:53):
to also use online and call as well. Uh. And
I think one of the things that I've been saying
to people, just like it's talk about tied to voting,
and that is, Look, all you gotta do is call
five people as an individual, you call five and if
you know, look, they have more than four thousand people
who are watching right now on YouTube, who people are

(01:34:14):
more than a thousand on Facebook right there. If just
the very people who are watching us live right now,
just say I'm called five as twenty thousand individuals or
more who they can reach. And that's just how basic
this is. It is so basic. And I'm gonna stay
this my bro. As I listened to your explanation at

(01:34:37):
the beginning of this program, it could not be clearer.
And so if we could just socially reproduce you and
what you do. Of course, if I could clone you
and spread out the world, I know I'd have a
better world. But everyone has a possibility to do exactly

(01:34:58):
what you do. On The Roland Martin Show Unfiltered, well,
we certainly appreciate it. Dr Cole is always great to
see you tell the best man. I said, what's up
my offer? Brother? Uh and y'all, y'all keep swinging. I
appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Folks, gotta go

(01:35:20):
to a break. We come back. The power of the Census,
how it impacts voting. Oh, yeah, it does, and you
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when you look at what's happening in this country, more
than likely the Midwest part of the country. I'm talking
about Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, Iowa, Illinois, those states due
to the shifting population, those states are likely going to
be losing representation in Congress because they're losing population. Places

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in the south and the Southwest and the West are
gonna be gaining congressional seats. All of that. It's based
upon the United States Census. Jorge Basketbas Junior Jones us
right now, his program director for Power and Democracy Program
with the Advancement Project. Jorge, glad to have your roller,
Martin unfiltered. There's a pleasure to be with here with you,

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my brother. When when when we start talking about politics,
Oftentimes when people talk about the census, they only talk
in terms of how uh districts are drawn. So first
let's deal with that. Um are the are districts drawn
only on the congressional level or the census also used

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in states to draw the state representative and the state senators,
So it's it's drawn both. A lot of states depend
on the federal system and deciding how they're going to
draw their districts. Virginia is one of those states. New
York is one of those states. Many states follow the
federal system where you look to see how many people

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live in that place. Because everyone has access to political power, right,
young people, old people, whether you're a citizen or not,
it's important that we all have access to that elected official.
And you want to make sure that each elected official
is representing around the same amount of people. And so

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again for the person who's watching, they just say, Okay,
that's that's my state, that's my state Senate. But then
when they think about that I used to be represented
by somebody. That's because likely in the last after the
last census, the lines were redrawn, people were shifted from
one district to the other, dependent on how those lines

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were drawn. Jerry Mannering plays a role in this as well.
All of that is determined where people are because they
are able to look at the concentration of how many Blacks,
how many Whites, how many Latinos, how many Asians, how
many of Americans, how many men, how many women, uh
you know, how many people uh you know lean this
party of that party. They are extrapolating that data based

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upon looking at the census. How many people are upper
middle class and middle class, how many people are pour.
All of that data comes from this report. You're absolutely right.
What you're really touching on is the importance of accurate data.
The census is critical for everything. It's critical. Businesses depend

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on it. Black and brown communities die by it. Think
about today, we live in a technologically advanced society where
we have asked people are used to using uber lists,
different kind of mobile applications that know what addresses are there.
Those addresses come from the Census Bureau. Information and data
that businesses need to deride depends on the Census Bureau.

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We both remember what it was like having cell phones,
let's say twenty thirty years ago, and we remember what
drop cause was. That's because you know, when you're on
a cell phone tower. Cell phone towers, you census data.
They believe ten thousand people live in a community. They're
gonna provide services for up to ten thousand people. But
when you have twenty thousand people in that community using

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that service, and everyone's trying to use, you know, a
service that's built for ten thousand, but you have twenty
tho then you have core drops. Many of the viewers
who may not be familiar with that, might have been
at an arena, may have been at a concert prior
to COVID and you're trying to upload something. Maybe you're
at an airport and you're trying to you know, check
an email, but it's slow. All of that has to

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do with census there. Now, what else involved politics? First
of all, I mentioned earlier. I mentioned obviously how the
lines are drawn. Now let's talking about populationships. As I
said earlier, Texas realized, dang, we better jump on this
thing because we could gain three seats. If we don't
get this thing done right, we won't gain that power.
And now we're gonna wait ten years. Uh. As you

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look at the map, there any idea how many potential
seats will be shifting away from the Midwest. We're just
largely been white in this country and shifting to the south,
the southeast, and the west. Yeah, So there's certainly places
where we could look at and say we're seeing an

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influx of people, and if everybody in those places count,
then we're gonna gain more congressional seats. So I think
Florida should be one of those places. I think here
in the d n V area, Virginia, Maryland, especially places
where there's a huge immigrant population. We know that at
least about sixteen million homes are mixed status families where

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one person may not be a U s citizen in
that home, usually either the mother or the father. But
if you have a mother who's a US citizen, a
father who's not, and then you have a child who is,
you have a family of three if one of those
people are unaccounted, then we're gonna lose thousands of dollars.
I mean, you touched on it earlier, but what we're
talking about is just worth looking at undocumented population. We're

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talking about losing potentially eight point five billion dollars annually.
You know, just in Virginia alone, for each person that's undercounted,
we lose two thousand dollars. We know the census is
for ten years. That means we're gonna lose twenty tho
dollars for each person that's undercounted in Virginia alone, said differently,
a family of five, we'll lose a hundred thousand dollars.

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One quick thing that we could all do is like
you said, qual five people. You called five people, those
five people fill out the census. You just say on
average or state a hundred thousand dollars. You know, um
as you're aware. Drew Verton of Woodson Tandy said it best.
He said he wanted our fraternity to stand out when
it comes to affairs of the name as black and

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brown people, as people who built this country. There is
no more important national affairs than participating in the des
sential census. The census is critical, is about money, It
is about power, is about respect. When we're talking about politics,
we're talking about whether or not a US citizen is
entitled to a non English ballot that's gonna depend on

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senses there. When we talk about schools and we talk
about civil rights, we're talking about census data. When we
talk about whether or not someone is being discriminated. As
as an attorney, we're not going to court. The judge
wants to see senses data. They don't want to hear
that my client feels that they're being discriminated against. When
we think about the school to prison pipeline and we

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think about so many public schools under resource, it's because
the census is for ten years and the largest undercount
our children under five. What that's saying is that children
from five to fifteen are gonna lose resources that they
need at these public schools. So from first grade to
about a junior in high school, they're going to be underfunded.

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What happens when schools are undefunded, jil has become funded.
And we know that political power is important because we
know when our brothers and sisters are incarcerated that these
prisons use prison Jerreman double and that they want those
resources and they make sure our brothers and sisters who
are incarcerated or counted. So we got to make sure

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that our communities are equally counted. All right, then, Jorge
Vaskewares Jr. With the Advancing Project re serially appreciate it.
Thank you so very much. And I always got glad
to see another alpha brother on here. Thank you all right,
and for rest of y'all, uh your megas and capitals.
I'm sorry, but you know if these these just happened,
I mean just you know, you know, leadership is leadership.

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Or hey, thank you so very much, folks. Uh, not
many days left to vote. I want you to focus
on that polographic of please it is fifty two days
until the election. One of the things that we have
been doing is ensure ring that you are registered to vote.
But you can also go to vote dot org. Now,
remember when it comes to the senses, you can go
to tween twenty centses dot gov. Or if you're also

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looking to check your registration, you can go right to
vote dot org right here. Uh to take your registration,
you go to the bottom. What does it say right there?
Cents is and all you do is simply click that
particular button there takes you to mys is dot gov,
which allows you again to begin to fill out the questionnaire. Uh.
This is how you start the questionnaire. Uh, and you log.

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You log again, of course with your twelve digit Census
I D. And so if you don't have the Census
I D, you can click this particular button right here
and then it begins to walk you through all of
those steps. That's how simple, uh and easy it is.
And so again my cents is dot gov. You can
go to that particular address, uh to feel your senses out.

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You can also go to centses dot gov uh to
do so. And remember you all so can call. You
can also call until you see all the responses on here.
That allows for you to be able uh to get
the information. Uh. And uh, you know we've been explained
this now of every single day, in multiple times each week.

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I gotta go back up to the top here. Uh,
and again how you can respond. Remember, when you do answer,
your answers are not being accepted by not being used
in any way. They're not being given to any governmental
agency anything among those lines. That's not how they're being used,
and so we want you to understand that we got
to make sure it's on us. All. Look, we know

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we're not being being undercounted, so why don't we make
sure uh that we get counted. Uh. And so you
can do this again. UH. You can do this online,
you can do this by phone call. You can do
this by mail as well. I am looking for the
phone number right now that you can call uh to

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actually do the census as well. But again go to
twin sisters dot gov UH two zero two zero c
E N s US dot g O V. Al Right, folks, Um,
I told you we've been celebrating the second anniversary of
Roller Martin Unfiltered, and we've been looking back at different things,
and so I just could not help to say we

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had to hear about Connie again out of Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Lord,
this is one of the best moments in our two
years of Roller Martin Unfiltered. Over the weekend, a three
minute video of activists and Herry Chambers out of Baton Rouge, Louisiana,

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when viral millions of people saw him snap it on.
Connie watch this next. So I had intended to get
up here and talk about how racist Robberty Lee wan,
but I'm gonna talk about you, Connie, sitting over their
shop while we're talking about Robert E Lee. This a
picture you shopping while we're talking about racism and history

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in this country. Only white members of this board got
up while we were up here talking too, because you're
don't give a damn and it's clear. But I'm gonna
tell you what the slaves my ancestors said about Robert E. Lee.
Since you don't know history, system, let me tell you
that they said when he got the plantation, after he
got off the field where twenty seven thousand people died
at Gettysburg, Connie, Robert E. Lee was a brutal slave master.

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Not only did when he whooped the slaves, he said,
lay it on him hard. After he said lay it
on him hard, he said, put brian on him, sort
of burn him. That's what Robert E Lee did. And
you set your arrogant self in here and sit on
their shopping while the pain and the hurt of the
people of this community is on display because you don't

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give a damn, and you should resign. You should have
resigned two years ago when you choked the white man
in his house. You should have resigned two weeks ago
when you got on TV and say foolishness and you
said walk out of here and resign and never come back,
because you are the example of racism in this community.
You are horrible, not to the rest of the board.

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You have an obligation to the people of this community.
And eight of them are black. And do you need
a clan rally outside, Mr gold before you end it,
because holding it up means that you put that building
in jeopardy. You do, sir, because all over the country
they burn the stuff down. And black folks in this
city have still with protesters. I ain't seen you elected

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officials out there with them making sure that nothing goes
south in Baton Rouge. It's been folks in this community
who give a damn, not just when it's comfortable, but
every time. And four years ago we came down here,
Mr Drake, they say you're a good man. Be a
good man. Black folks say you're a good man. White
folks say you're a good man. Your legacy is attached
to tonight, brother, your legacy. Now, let me say that

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the black members of the board, it's the most solid
there down and see how to y'all infil. Let's keep
it that, Let's stand on this moving forward, because we
don't need to apologize for Connie. Evelyn, she showed you
who she was when she was Oh love it. He
was calling for East Baton Rouge Paris Scoot board member
Connie Bernard to apologize. She later did so, and she said, no, no, no,

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I wasn't shopping. That was a pop up ad and
I was trying to figure out how to get rid
of it. She lying because she was scrolling down on
the ad. Gary Chain was the publisher an advocate for
the Rouge collection. He joined us right now, Gary, you
all mn Connor's ass. Well, brother, you know sometimes that's
where it required. Well the thing that thing against me

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is she lying in her apology. She was scrolling down down,
She was scrolling down, she was shopping. She didn't want
to hear none of that. She's sitting next to a
black woman, Evelyn where Jackson who serves on the school
board with her, and while Evelyn is expressing her sentiments
about Robert E. Lee, Connie uh is sitting there scrolling

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and shopping. And for me, it really just pissed me off.
And I just could not contain just letting them have
the unadulterated truth. And what you guys saw is uh
a reflection, in my opinion of what we as black
folks deal with when we deal with our government. That
here black folks show up pleading our case about why

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we should do something to change something that is clearly
systemic and structural. Uh. And we got a school board
member who's just sitting there saying to help with what
y'all doing, I'm gonna just go shopping while y'all are
are fleading your hearts out to us the government. You
also made the point, you said, area how many white
board members are on the school boarding and how does

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that happen? So, so let's talk about that in a
real way. So Baton Rouge has the was first of all,
we had the longest UH standing desegregation case in the country,
that's number one. And the school district encountered white flight
like never before in the UH fifties sixty seventies. Whenever
desegregation began to happen, Catholic schools and private schools start

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opening in Baton Rouge, and so white folks left the
system and they never came back and so now the
system is eight. The school system is black. The city
of Baton Rouge is fifty black. We have parishes rather
than counties, so our parishes forty seven and forty seven.
Yet our school board is a nine member board with
five white Republicans and four Black Democrats. Our city council

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rolling UH is twelve members. It is seven white and
five black in a city that is majority black. UH
and so extreme gerrymandering. And so it's important that we
take the census as black folks so that we can
get more seat. But we have got to be UH
pressing the gas on these people every day because this

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is what builds an inequitable system. Well, ye're absolutely right.
And again the fact that they are holding the power
and the reality their children are not going to these
school systems. And this is also we saw the same
thing in Ferguson. They just got their first black mayor.
This is a sixty seven percent black city. So this
is our second black mayor, Mayor Sharon Weston Browmers, our

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second black mayor. But we have watched inequities, whether it
is uh DBS, disadvantaged business enterprises. I started advocacy about
five years ago, as a small business owner, I was
watching how white owned companies were getting ninety eight seven
percent of the contracts in the city of bad Rouge,
and the bad Ridge Area Chamber was in support of

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bat Rouge being a thriving and growing place, and the
chamber still being silent about County Bernardi resigning, and and
that that breeds a culture of division, It breeds a
culture of inequity and and a lack of progress. And
if we are not uh as you say, on their
ass right, then we will continue to have a foot

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up hours until we demand if they do something different.
And it's about the money. That at the bottom line,
it's about the money. I keep telling people when Maynard Jackson,
when he ran for mayor of Atlanta, African Americans were
getting point zero zero one of all city contracts. And
then the other day I saw some of some Republicans tweeted, oh,

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look at all of these black mayors you've had in
that land. I said, don't get confused. White folks in
Atlanta still want to be able to control the money.
And the only reason they have not been able to
keep controlling the money because those black mayors use the
power of that airport and said, Nope, We're gonna ensure
we opened these doors. And that's what this boy's down

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to is that is they say, look, we might lose
the demographic numbers, but if we control the money, we
control the city, the school board, the state, the nation.
And so rolland I did a video about a week
ago where I was talking about I don't believe that
there are black mekas. I know that folks are advocated
that Atlanta is a black Manka and d C was

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a black Maka at one point, because at the end
of the day, those cities are municipalities that are still
checked better the state government. And so a state like
Louisiana which thirty four percent black, a city like Baton
Rouge with fifty six percent black, when you look at
a majority black city that still has a majority white council,
or when you look at Atlanta, where voter suppression is

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still in operation because Kemp, the governor, was a secretary
of state suppressed the vote and then when he's governor,
we've got black folks standing in line like that. As
long as the checks and balances are above us and
they have the power of the state legislature, we are
still in the battle. And so we've got to be
deliberate about all politics being local and not just voting
in this presidential election where Donald Trump, Agent Orange is

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doing his thing, We've got to focus in on the
people where that federal money and that state money comes
down to the local level. Our school board and Baton
Rouge is a four hundred and twenty five million dollar budget,
Our city of Batton Rouge is a nine hundred million
dollar budget. The state of Louisiana is a twenty seven
billion dollar budget. And when you talk about those resources
and of those money is going to white businesses, well,

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that explains why black folks don't have the same level
of income as white families, because the companies that we
own do not get fed into by our tax dollars.
And the assault on us, UH is that they're taxing
us right without giving us equal representation. But this is
also why and and when I did to say the
Black American Report in Indianapolis, UH October, and I asked,

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I said, if you were or are a public workers,
stand up. Probably about eighty percent of the room stood up,
and I tried to walk them through this thing, and
I said, do y'all understand who actually controls Wall Street?
And people look at me like us crazy, I said,
I said, this is the controls Wall Spit Street pension funds. Yes, sir,

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I said, pension funds are the one funds who give
billions of dollars to hedge funds. And I was gonna
call the other day on this. That is an exclusive
uh out call clubhouse and a whole bunch of venture
capitalists are there, and somebody asked me the question. They said,
how do we change the VC world? I said, see,

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you focus on the wrong thing. You can't change the
VC world unless you change the pension world. I said,
because see, And then I said, where does the money
come from in the pension world. It comes from the
public workers. So really, what has to happen? Gary, We've
got to get these black folks who are public workers,

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who are retired teachers and police officers and firefighters and
secretaries and janitors to say, you need to be mobilizing
saying we're tired of all these white folks controlling the
pension funds. We need to see black lawyers, black bond holders.
I said, all of us. I said, if that level

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of people rise up, then you change the pension boards.
Then you change the Wall Street and you change the
venture capitalists. I said it comes down to the money, yes, sir,
And it starts at the grassroots level of what you're
talking about. It starts at the local level, because that's
where we have. The rubber meets the road, and if
we stand up and use our power, we can infectuate

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change all over this country. I think we see it happening.
I think that there is I would say it like
this rolling. We don't all wake up at the same
time in the morning, and all black folks don't become
woke at the same time. But I do believe that
the things that are happening in this country are waking
some of us up. Our young people that are showing
up in the streets protesting consistently and agitating against the police. Well,

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the longer than a police officer stays on the clock,
I know you may think he's getting paid over time,
but he can't go home to his family and sleep.
And in a covid environment where cities budgets just stretch,
you're gonna stretch that city's budget even further. And so
we've got to be delibered in every area and what
you're suggest and it well, those that I have, uh
retirement plans and pitching funds. You do your part at

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your level. Maybe your level isn't getting in the streets,
but he's getting on the phone with your public officials
and saying enough is enough. Absolutely absolutely. And now, first
of all, you gotta be shocked at how how this
thing is spread. I mean I saw entertainers and others.
I mean like Morning Joe reached out to you all
the rest of these people, and see, here's my whole deal.

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I'm glad those folks are posting those videos, but the
reality is I need them posting that kind of stuff
every day, using their influence, and for the Morning Joe's
of the world to be calling folks like you on
a regular basis, versus having the Donny Deutsches of the
world saying the same bullshit he normally trickles out all
the time. No have real people who on the ground speaks.

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He I ain't got a problem because the show is
called Unfiltered. I appreciated brother, you know, and the I
quoted pimp see this morning on on Morning Joe, because
you know, we out here, uh we out here they
rapping about it and were out here paying the price.
And every day advocates all over the country are doing
their part on the local level. And so when I
saw the shout out from Lebron James Man, I had

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to go and check it out and find out was
it real for myself. Somebody sent me the screenshot. I
was like, this can't be real because folks like me
on the local level, we don't get to have these
types of conversations. We're fighting this fight every day. And so, uh,
if I could, I would just say to Lebron, to
miss Abraduverney, to all of those people, call me and
let's have a conversation about how we mobilize your resources

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and your influence on the local level all over the country.
Black folks living the Deep South. Let's take the South
over and create a new Black South. I'm about that,
but I think that we've got to realize that there
are those of us who do this work on the
grassroots level that can lean information in and with those resources,
and when we bring in every aspect of what we

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do as black folks, we already know we're magical, but
how are we gonna be powerful with that magic? And
what are we gonna do. My homeboy, Ryan Thompson has
a pot. He says, we treat our entertainers and rappers
like stolars, and our stolars like entertainers, and until we
get to the point where we treat our people in
our community that do this work with the honor and
and listen, I appreciate the love and support. Brother. I

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am mobilizing right now because I want to go all
over the deep fouth and train new black leaders because
what you see is the passion of young people. And
and it's no disrespect to those who came before, but
some of them have stayed over their due um and
and I'm thirty four rolling. I'm not gonna be seventy
fighting these same battles. And I'm gonna have that same tenacity.

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But we gotta pass this knowledge down because their brothers
like Cleve done Uh and Edmond Jordan and Baton Rouge
who shared knowledge with me when I was twenty nine
years old and said, hey, brother, you got this media platform,
but you ain't doing nothing with it. Lean in for
your people, right And so I've been doing this for
the last five years, but we can turn this up.
The beauty of this moment is. I think, like I said,

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we don't all wake up at the same time, but
I do that alarm clock is going off. Brother. Well,
i'll say this here. Um. First of all, I saw
Ava's tweet what she said, Man, who is this? Brother?
And then I went to your Twitter feed and I
saw you were following me and your email was on there,
and I sent her your email. Wow. I appreciate that.

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And so so I met you at Estence a few
years ago, and I'm definitely gonna drop that picture. I
know you meet a lot of people, but I've been
a fan for years, brother, because you've been speaking truth
to power in a way uh that many people uh
don't appreciate. And for folks like me on the local
level who need black folks to tell our stories. Black man,
I appreciate you and I love you to the moon

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for what you do. And I know that the reason
you're not on CNN is because you are unapologetically black,
and we as black folks, gotta say Roland Martin is
important to our culture. Roland Martin is important to our people,
and we gotta stand up with this black man because
he's putting I platform out there where we can tell
it without having to be sugarcoat rot. And I put
my my Connie go home Pinty's shirt on because I

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was coming on here with you because she got to go, baby,
got to absolutely absolutely well, I'll tell you what we
talked about, all the Cairns of the world. And trust me,
I think you're about airing mom. You're about to hear
you're about to add the Connies to the world. And
y'all do be in favor? Should this just so y'all
know seell patntion everything. This is when I knew when

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I saw the video before Gary said a word, y'all
play the vield. Look at Gary's left hand. He had
to put the pimp hand position. He knew he might
have smacked. Y'all play the look. Watch the left hand
right now right there, see see right now, look see
I need try to see. I need Eyrther to see.

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Come on back. Didn't see y'all See what he did.
He put the hand, he put the head out, then
he extended the head light. Now I'm about to smack
the hell out of you right now because I got you,
got you that a little bit. The business cleaner and rolling.
Let me say this, brother were as black folks cannot
continue to let these folks slide. We are voters, We

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are taxpayers. Every time you go to the store and
spend a dollar, the government is taking some of your money.
Your check, the government is taking some of your money.
Your property, the government is taking your money. Even if
you are a renter. Call when you pay your taxes,
the people who pay the tax the property taxes take
your rent money to pay those property tacts. So I'll
be damn if we are to be quiet, and we

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are to stand in their face and agitate them rolling.
There were young black protests and baton rouge that took
a protest in the district Attorney's house because he ain't
doing nothing about the injustices. And I want to talk
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