Day 22 of Trump-MAGA Shutdown, GOP Map Power Grab, AZ Lawsuit, Chicago National Guard Order Blocked

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Today's Wednesday, October twenty second, twenty twenty five, coming up
of Roller Mark Down, Filthill Streeting live on the Black
Studying Network, Day twenty two of the Donald Trump MAGA
governments shutdown, the second longest shutdown in America in history.
Texas Congressman Al Green would join us on the show
to talk about Democrats continue to hammer Republicans over the

(00:35):
issue of health care North Carolina. The Republican control legislature.
What if they do they pass a new racist jerry
Mander Congression of map, destroying the congressional seat of CDC
member Donna Davis. Will talk with the House MANORTI leader
Robert Reeves about this. Arizona Attorney General suing a House

(00:56):
Speaker Mike Johnson, demanding that he swear in represent them,
and Alita Gravallo guess what they've been scringing her over
and Joss keeps saying, oh no, we can't do it
to the pro forming.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Session, but he did it for two Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
A federal judge stands the order of block in the
Trump administration from deploying hundreds of National Guard troops to
Chicago and across Illinois. Also, Donald Trump takes a lot
even further. They're not going to completely destroy the East
wing of the White House to build his ego driven

(01:30):
two hundred and fifty million dollars ballroom. It's time to
bring the funk a rolling back on Phillipil the Black
Sudden Network.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
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Speaker 4 (01:43):
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politics with entertainment. Just fuck keis he's stings, He's spoky stress,

(02:15):
She's filled the question.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
No, he's rolling.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Stage twenty two of the Donald Trump Magat government shut down,
the second longest in history. The Senate voted on the
House passed bunding bill to reopen the federal government for
the twelfth time.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
It failed.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Now Republican leaders had began to raise the issue of
changing the filibuster rules or developing a plan b who
Democrats holding firm on a healthcare subsidies. Now you have
people like literally Democrat Senator John Fetterman, who says he
supports the ending of the filibuster when it comes to
budget shoes. Texas Congress from Al Green Jorges right now.

(03:02):
Glad to have you on the show. So you know what,
I guess what you know, if you're going to go
Republican life, just go full republican. I mean it has
to be disappointed to have deal with Senator John Fetterman,
Democrat elected out of Pennsylvania, who is willing to stand
with Republicans when it comes to inning the filibuster we're
going to guarding the government shutdown.

Speaker 6 (03:23):
Well, thank you for the opportunity to be on.

Speaker 7 (03:25):
And it's always a privileged and a pleasure I heard
Senator Fetterman. But I must tell you we some of
us Democrats wanted to have that Philippus the Rule eliminated
so that we could pass John Lewis Voting Rights Act.
And if we had, we wouldn't be having many of
the problems that we're having today because that John Lewis
Voting Rights Act would have prevented much of what Trump

(03:47):
is trying to do to steal congressional seats.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
So I still stand where I stood. I wanted to
do it then and I want to do it now.

Speaker 7 (03:54):
I think that they could have done this on day one,
but the President had a scheme.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
Doctor King had a dream. The President has a scheme,
and his scheme.

Speaker 7 (04:03):
Was and is to allow persons to be released because
they are persons said to be non essential, not essential workers.
And then in doing this, by having other people declared
them not essential, he can release them and say we
didn't need them anyway, they weren't essential. They're also prolonging
this because they understand that we have the two hundred

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and eighteenth vote necessary to make sure that we get
some justice for all of these ladies who suffered as
a result of EPSTEIN. I think that letting them do
it is something we can't prevent. They could have done
it before. Now I wish we had done it, and
I do believe that our day will come and the
things that are important to us we will be able
to pass. It was cinema and mansion that prevented us

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from passing John Lewis, voting rights, George Floyd, justice and policing,
raising the minimum wage, dealing with comprehensive immigration reform, making
sure that LGBTQ community.

Speaker 6 (04:59):
Was treated fairly. These are things that I want to
see done.

Speaker 7 (05:02):
And I don't oppose what the Senator said, because I've
already said earlier as many others that this is something
that we should do.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Well, the reason I raise that is because it's like, well,
it's kind of late, because he certainly wasn't saying that
when Democrats were in control.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
That's the issue that I have here.

Speaker 7 (05:20):
Well, I can see where I see your point. Well,
I'm consistent, dear brother. I am very consistent. You know,
I'm a liberated Democrat, unbought, unbossed, unafraid, And I said
on October second, October second that they would move to
this point, that they would eventually say shamelessly that we're.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
Going to go ahead and use the fill of us.

Speaker 7 (05:43):
They call it a nuclear option, of course, but it's
just a fifty one vote plus rule or a sixty
vote plus rule.

Speaker 6 (05:49):
And they play games because just a little while ago, the.

Speaker 7 (05:53):
President used that rule, the fifty one vote rule, aboarded
the sixty so that he could get more persons of
his choosing into key positions. They did it when they
wanted to put Gorsic on the Supreme Court. They passed
it with fifty four votes. It was fifty four to
forty five, I believe. And they do it shamelessly. Well,
I'm not ashamed to take a position that I believe

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will help us to overcome many of the transgressions that
we've had to suffer from, including Remember it was civil rights.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Legislation that was filibuster.

Speaker 7 (06:24):
I mean things that have been important to us, mentioning legislation,
all of these things have been important to us. And
I appreciate what you said and affording me the opportunity
to give my candid opinion.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
And it means something to me to know that you
would call him out.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I have said repeatedly that Democrats have finally found a consistent,
winning argument that is resonating with the American people, and
that is this battle over healthcare. And I said that, Listen,
there's a lot of stuff to be talking about, but
every single day, every Democrat in the House, every Democrat
in the Senate, including John Fetterman, should be locked and

(07:00):
loaded on this issue of health care because it's winning
for Democrats.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
In the polls. And here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
All of these these these broke conservative white folks in
these red states, they can love them from Donald Trump,
but they are scared to death that when we know,
pasted upon data that they were saying, of course, oh,
don't get rid of Obamacare, don't touch the Form of
Care Act, not realizing they were too stupid to realize
it's the exact same thing. And so to me, this

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is the one where you stand firm on and hammer
every single day. You now got sener Joni Ernst, who's
not run for re election, saying, guess what subsidies are
not gonna go away because these people are now realizing
they need those subsidies or their health care is gonna explode.

Speaker 6 (07:46):
That's right. Well, let me give you an assurance.

Speaker 7 (07:49):
As a liberated Democrat, unbossed, unafraid, I assure you that
I'm gonna stand my ground now. I don't speak for
the Democratic Party, but I speak for everybody that agrees
with me, and it.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
Seems that a good many people in the party agree
with me.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Now.

Speaker 7 (08:02):
But to make your your contention, your statement, which is
a valid statement even clearer for people, I had my
staff to compile some data for us, and this is interesting.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
A person who made the two hundred and fifty five thousand.

Speaker 7 (08:15):
Dollars in twenty twenty we'll have a tax cut in
twenty twenty seven that will amount to about four percent.
That makes you in the top point one percent if
you get this tax cut of about.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
You'll get a two hundred and fifty.

Speaker 7 (08:31):
Five thousand dollars tax cut in twenty twenty seven if
you're in the top point one percent. Now here's the
important point. That is six hundred ninety eight dollars and
sixty three cents a day. If you are a person
who made two hundred and sixty five dollars and this
is your average benefit in twenty twenty seven, you will
get about seventy three cents per day. This tax bill

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was designed to put money in the pockets of people.

Speaker 6 (08:59):
Who are high in earners.

Speaker 7 (09:01):
People who are not high income earners are getting pennies
per day, and people who are high income earners part
one percent are getting hundreds of dollars per day, almost
seven hundred dollars if you made two hundred and fifty
five thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
That's a whole lot right there that's going to a
negatively impact people. And again, seeing this is where a
few months ago, Democratic leader Jefferies and some other Democrats
we're in New Orleans for any event and news conference,
and I said, then, I said, man, listen, y'all are
in Louisiana. Y'all should he should have had. I said,
you should have had members at every single district office

(09:38):
of Mike Johnson sreporting all those other different places and
showing this is how many people in this district are
not going to have health care. And I'm telling you
we see it right now. Now you got these farmers
who are crying because of Trump's tears, how they're getting
screwed as well.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
All of these people who voted.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
For him and voted for Republicans are now realizing, oh
my goodness, we're is screwed. And this is where Democrats
should be saying hashtag we tried to tell you, We
tried to tell.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
You, and it isn't I told you so moment.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
And sometimes you got to say I told you so, yes, and.

Speaker 7 (10:15):
It's not just that I told you so for a
little bit. In a good many of these states, you're
going to pay twice as much for your health care,
and in some others you will approach thrice as much.
So the amount that you will pay is going to vary,
but it won't be by a small amount. People are
going to pay a large amount of money additional money

(10:36):
for health care because the Obamacare subsidies were there to
help people with their health care costs, and I stand
by these subsidies. I'm a guy who believes that in
the richest country in the world, you ought to have
health care simply because you're sick. I'm not a guy
who believes that for some reason, you've got to sign
up three times a year or two times a year

(10:57):
and prove that you are able to work someplace, volunteer
to work. They can criticize me for that if they'd like,
But I think sick people need health care and we
ought to give it to them because many of these
people can be contagious and they'll cause this sickness to
be spread throughout society.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
So let's just start with the notion that we ought
to have health care for people who are sick.

Speaker 7 (11:19):
For people who are sick, whoever they happen to be,
if they're sick, they need health care. And those people
who say that immigrants are going to get health care
who are undocumented.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
If you go to an emergency room and you are sick,
do we turn people away? If you've been hit with
a car and you're in an emergency room.

Speaker 7 (11:37):
If we wound you in Mortal Kombat and we don't
kill you, we will give you aid and comfort. If
we capture you after you try to rob a bank
and we don't kill you. When we hurt you, will
give you aid and comfort. How can we decide that
we are now going to turn away people who are
hurt in an auto accident. They get to the emergency
room and we're not going to give them aid and comfort.

(11:58):
I stand by people who are sick and in need
of health care receiving health care, and when we do
it through the emergency rooms, we all pay more because
we all have to cover that cost of additional care
at an emergency room, and it costs a lot more.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
So let's try to give people health care because they
are sick in this country.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
And I want to say this, I want to go
back through these numbers again, because they really are salient.

Speaker 6 (12:22):
And this is the point.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
If you if you are a person who is in
the top point one percent, and you will get an
average tax cut of two hundred and fifty five thousand dollars.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
Now that is six hundred and ninety eight dollars and
sixty three cents per day.

Speaker 7 (12:39):
If you are a person who is earning say less
than fifty thousand dollars, annually, you will get a tax
cut of two hundred and sixty five thousand dollars. Pardon
two hundred and sixty five dollars. Got to get these
numbers right. Two hundred sixty five dollars. That's seventy three
cents per day. So the point is the wealthy people

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will get a lot of money, and those who are
not so wealthy are going to get pennies per day.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
The will we get hundreds of dollars per day.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Well, keep in mind they don't want documented workers getting
health care, but if you're in Argentina, you can get
forty billion dollars to save your economy.

Speaker 7 (13:18):
Well, but they also want undocumented workers to pick the fruit.
They want undocumented workers to work in slaughter houses. If
we kick all of the undocumented workers out of this country,
the cost of labor is going to go up. You're
going to get more inflation as a result. You're going
to have a difficult time finding people to do this work,

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that's the first thing. But assuming you do, we're going
to have to pay a lot more for it. So
the impact in society is not something that ends at
the border. It begins when those persons are removed from
this country. And by the way, this president is doing
this because, in his opinion, the United States of America
is not quite enough.

Speaker 6 (13:59):
He wants to give us some assurance some people, not me.

Speaker 7 (14:02):
I don't need it, but give the country some assurance
that we will not have a majority minority country. And
he's doing everything that he can to do this by
removing some people for reasons associated with their being here,
and they've done dastardly things. But he's also removing people
like the lady that I represent here in Houston, Texas.

(14:23):
She's in my congressional district, so I say I represent her,
and she's come to my office. Her son is a
person that has a learning disorder. She is undocumented. He
is undocumented. He was separated from her. The police picked
him up, turned him over to ICE. She can't get
him unless she shows that she's a documented person. If

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she shows that she is not a documented person, she
and her son will be removed, and then her daughter,
who is also undocumented, would be removed. Now she's here
making a living, has committed no crimes, is helping the
economy to a certain extent. Why would we go after
her with ice When you're talking about this notion of

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going after people who've committed these dastardly deeds.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
They're not interested in the deeds.

Speaker 7 (15:09):
They're interested in the ability to remove people from the
country under some guys of them having done something that
is horribly wrong.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
But they're not just limited to the people who've done
bad things.

Speaker 7 (15:22):
They're limiting it to anybody that they can find who
is undocumented.

Speaker 6 (15:26):
And they do it based upon skin color.

Speaker 7 (15:28):
I at one time was a person who was a
suspect because of my skin color. All persons who are
Latinos in this country now are suspect by ICE officers
because of their skin color.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Well, absolutely, he wants to make America white again.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's what the strategy is.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
And it's abundantly clear, corechmanal Green, whichill appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
Thanks a lot, Thank you, dear brother, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
All right, folks, going to break, we come back.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Let's talk about Trump wanted to make change to the
refugee program because he really just wants more white people
in the country. Did I not try to tell y'all
that in my book White Fear. We're going to discuss
that next right here. Rolling Martin Unfiltered on the blackstun Network.

Speaker 8 (16:14):
Next on the Black Table with me Greg calk. Now,
the America we live in today is not what the
founders intended or what they outlined in the Declaration of
Independence and even the Constitution. Professor and author Cermit Roosevelt
will join us to talk about his book The Nation
That Never Was. How history was misinterpreted the intented realities

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of America's beginnings and missed a much better story in
the process.

Speaker 9 (16:38):
So, if you have to pick some group to marginalize,
I think it should be the people who are against equality.

Speaker 8 (16:43):
That's next on the Black Table. Right here on the
Black Star Network.

Speaker 10 (16:49):
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Virginia Public Schools gave Nicole an excellent education. They helped
her become a small business owner, family, financial planner, mother,
and community leader. Now, after four years on the Spotsylvania
School Board, Nicole is running for delegate to meet the
needs of all students.

Speaker 11 (17:08):
As our delegate, Nicole will fully fund our.

Speaker 10 (17:10):
Schools, raise teacher salaries, and help graduating students stay in
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Speaker 11 (17:15):
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Speaker 12 (17:19):
In the military, I gave orders and they went a
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thing I've learned as a mom and foster pan of
more kids than I can count, investing in their future
isn't a choice enrichment. I'll fight for Stafford's fair share
for our schools, smaller class sizes, better teacher pay, and

(17:40):
more vocational training. I'm Stacey Carrol, and I'll fight to
get our.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
Kids' future in order.

Speaker 13 (17:48):
Josh Cole became a pastor and delegate to serve his community.
That's why Josh is fighting to lower costs for families
hurting from inflation and make sure we can all afford
quality healthcare. But Sean Steinway has embraced his magabackers, who
support Trump's mass firing of federal workers and the MAGA
plan to ban abortion with no exceptions. We deserve better

(18:12):
than Shaan Steinway.

Speaker 14 (18:15):
I'm Josh Cole, candidate for Delegate, and I sponsored this ad.
As a pastor, I hear a lot about trips to
the doctor, bills piling up, jobs being lost. So as
your delegate, I went to work writing laws that protect families,
helping parents care for their disabled children, capping insulin costs,

(18:37):
lowering prescription prices and investing in our police and schools.
I'm Josh Cole, and as your delegate, I'm working to
keep us strong and safe.

Speaker 15 (18:48):
We'll see off you all.

Speaker 16 (18:48):
This is Wendell Haskins aka Win Hogan at the Originality
Golf Classic and you know our watch Roland Martin Unfiltered.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Now, how many times have I tried to explain to
y'all that Donald Trump cares about white people Republican Party
as well? What did I say in my book White Fear,
How the brownie of Americas making white folks lose their minds?

Speaker 2 (19:13):
What did I tell y'all that what they're trying to do? Well?
Check this out.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
New York Times reported this right here. This is the headline.
Trump considers overhaul of refugee system that would favor white people.
The proposals would transform a program aimed at helping the
most vulnerable people in the world into one that gives
preference to mostly white people who say they are being persecuted.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Article goes on to lay this out.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
The proposals, from which already have gone to effect, would
transform a decade sorold program. It was presented to the
White House in April by State and Homeland Security.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
And it's just real simple, y'all. Again, this is what
they look at this.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
The proposed chains would put in new emphasis on whether
applicants will be able to assimilate into the United States,
directly them to take classes unquote American history and values
in respect.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
For culture norms.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
The proposals also advised mister Trump to prioritize Europeans who
have been targeted for peaceful expression of views online, such
as opposition to mass migration or support for populist political parties. Y'all,
this is about whiteness. That's what they want. The attacks
on DEI, the attacks, the efforts to defund Black America,

(20:32):
Stephen Miller and his white nationalist policies as well, all
that you're seeing when it comes to ice and undocumented workers.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
This ain't about protecting the border. This literally is about
how do you keep this country as white as possible.
My panel Rebeca Caruthers. She's president and CEO of Affair
Election Center joining Us out of Washington, DC.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Doctor Larry J.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Walker, Social Professor, University of Central of Florida out of Orlando.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Doctor Neon B.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Carter, Associate Professor, School of Public Policy, University of Maryland,
author of American Wild, Black African Americans, Immigration and the
Limits of Citizenship out of DC Neil. They will start
with you. This is why they want to change the
fourteenth Member. This is why they want it. When it
comes to birthright citizenship. Donald Trump and MAGO Product twenty
twenty five is about whiteness, pure and simple.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Nobody else. Well.

Speaker 17 (21:24):
Absolutely, I mean we saw that on display this summer
when that first crop of South Africans were classified as
refugees and then fast tracked into the country.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Meanwhile we have thousand.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Also based upon a lot they were not being persecuted,
white phones and not be prosecuted at all.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
It was all a lot.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Absolutely, South Africans have said this. White South Africans have
said this.

Speaker 8 (21:44):
We know this.

Speaker 17 (21:45):
I mean, I think Donald Trump's administration has just gotten
really good at saying the choiet part out loud. I mean,
what we've seen is this systematic effort right to make
white people victims, not just in the United States globally,
and also in this case, to artificially lower our cap

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for refugees, real refugees, people that have already been vetted
and disallow them to come into the country. It is unfortunate,
it's sad, and I think this year they are looking
to reserve almost all the seats available to refugees for
white South Africans, and the remaining five hundred or so

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they're only going to do seventy five hundred, which is
a historic low. Will be for everybody else who speaks
English and has positive things to say about free speech
or something like that. So this is pretty naked in
terms of what this government is trying to do.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Larry, It's clear the hoods are off. They are openly
embracing white supremacy, white nationalism.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
That's what they're doing.

Speaker 15 (22:56):
Yeah, and I'm a hit it right on it. I mean,
this is first of all, and this is an old playbook.

Speaker 9 (23:01):
I mean, this is not new in terms of what
the Republican Party is doing with white South Africans. First
of all, it's it's really sad in terms of the
importance of the refugee program in terms of over the
last several years, in terms of the individuals who are
really from warm torm countries who come to the United
States and make major contributions. But this is about making

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America white again.

Speaker 18 (23:24):
It really is.

Speaker 9 (23:25):
You know this issue relating to the shifting demographics, and
I think it's about twenty forty two or whatever the
ISU will bridge the majority minority country. And you know,
you talked about your book and I've done some work
on this also is that you know, there is this
embedded fear of not being the majority anymore, and you
know what it would mean to be in a minority.
And this is impacting you know, not only those who

(23:46):
were recently United States, but folks who've been here for
you know, decades who are still Green card holders. We
see some of those individuals at whether airports or in
communities being snatched up by ice and other you know entities.
But this terrorism, because its essentially what it is, is
going to continue and if we don't continue to fight, demonstrate, etc.

Speaker 15 (24:05):
But once again, Roland, we should remind.

Speaker 9 (24:07):
Folks that we told them over several months that this
would happen if Donald Trump was electing president of the
United States. And so now we're all left to deal
with this madness and it's going to continue, and we're
going to see a lot of a lot of people
heard Rebecca.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
The article says this here according to the rationale laid
out in the documents submitted to mister Trump, America's acceptance
of refugees has made the country to diverse.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
The sharp increase in diversity has reduced the level of
social trust essential for the functioning of a democratic polity.
The administration should only welcome refugees who can be fully
and appropriately assimilate and are aligned with the President's objectives.
What they're saying here is we want white people. We
want people as white as possible. White, blonde haired, blue eyed.

(24:55):
That's what we want.

Speaker 5 (24:58):
Roland.

Speaker 19 (24:59):
For all of the peopleeople who've always criticized black folks
in this country and have asked the question, why do
you all always make it about race? The reason why
we talk about race as a black people in this
country is because it has always been about race. We've
heard a lot of people talk about how we're in
a new reconstruction. Well, guess what the last time we

(25:20):
were at this low point in our country, when we
were at the first nator in this country, it was
during post reconstruction, and when we saw the Civil Rights
Act of eighteen seventy five get demolished during post reconstruction.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
It took about eighty two years to climb out of that.

Speaker 19 (25:39):
So now we recognize that we are in a second nator,
We're in a second low point in this country. We're
seeing a resurgence or white supremacy that never went away
because it was never actually addressed in this country. I
don't know about you, but I don't have the patience
to wait eighty two years. Now it's time to actually
deal with those issues that weren't correctly dealt with in

(26:01):
the past. We are here now, and now it's time
for that confrontation. It's time for that moment to write those.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Wrongs absolutely, and so just understand. I saw this clip
earlier from the TV show The Practice where they talked
about it. I'm goa final it trying to play it later,
but again it speaks to the reality that we're facing
this country. And when we talk about the issue of whiteness,
it also extends to our politics. Now, we told you
last week the Supreme Court had the oral arguments that

(26:29):
could wipe out anywhere from twelve to nineteen upers of
thirty members of the CBC, also some Latinos as well.
Because you've got white Republicans who don't want race to
be issued now then they want to now say, oh no,
when we do Jerry Mandarin, it's not about race, it's
about politics. It's interesting because in North Carolina white Republicans.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
It's always been about race always.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
See, they got bus they got busted for targeting black
people when it came to voting. Yep, federal judges busted them,
literally said there was a surgical like precision.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Targeting black people.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Donald Trump is now running around wanting to say, let's
get more districts, more districts. So Republicans in North Carolina said, oh,
say no, more say legislature. They approved a new congressional
map and pulled the map up. As you can see,
the map creates one additional Republicans seat, boastering the party's
majority ahead of next year's midterm elections. It's going to

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target the seat currently held by Congressman Don Davis, who's
African American.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Now, North Carolina state law.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Does not allow the governor, Josh Stein, a Democrat, to
veto redistricting bills. Robert Reeves, the North Carolina State the
Housemenary leader. He joins us, right now, I'm glad to
have you on the show. Let's just be clear, white
Republicans have been targeting black people in North Carolina because

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they are still pissed off of two thousand and eight,
two thousand and eight after President then center Barack Obama
one North Carolina by fourteen one hundred votes, and man,
since then, Republicans there have been doing everything they can
to change voting laws, just change procedures.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
To target black people. There have been.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Lawsuits, you had Moral Mondays, you had Bishop William Barber
and others going to court democracy now. And so what
we're dealing with here, Robert, is pure and simple. It
is literally a battle over black and white in North Carolina.

Speaker 20 (28:39):
Yeah, and I can have to stay where you get that,
And Roland, I appreciate you have me on. I really
appreciate all the work that you guys do. What we've
been running into, like you said, since that time, has
been a germandering problem that again Justice Clarence Thomas said
was racist. And so with that being said, everything you've

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been doing since that time has been viewed.

Speaker 18 (29:02):
With that lens. And that is not accusing anybody of anything.
I don't know whatever it's on anybody's mind.

Speaker 20 (29:08):
What I know is that Don Davis recognized one thing
the bill that has been submitted and has been voted on.
The Maide law in Congress cannot work for northeast and
North Carolina. It can work for rural North Carolina. Eighty
percent of the state is rural. And it's not just
hurting black people. It's hurting black people, white people, Latino people,
Native Americans, every Asian, everybody.

Speaker 18 (29:30):
Is getting hurt by this thing. And yes, you can't help.
But notice that Don Davis, who represents the district that
took ninety years to.

Speaker 20 (29:37):
Get an African American to represent it despite the large
African American population, is now being put out of office
for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
And so for the people who will say, wow, ro
I think that you know, I mean I hear you.
I think you're just you know, taking too far. No, no, no,
when you said it, you just said it. Even plays
Tyler was like, damn, this is racist. I mean what
Republicans were They literally put it on paper.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Hey, can y'all find out when black people vote early?

Speaker 1 (30:13):
And they saw seventy percent of black votes were cast
in early voting, so they slashed early voting. Then they
said we're only going to have one polling location per
county as well. I mean it direct unambiguous attacks on
black people in North Carolina.

Speaker 20 (30:31):
And what I would say also is and again I'm
not I'm in office, I'm not endorsing, not saying anything
about what anybody's intentions are.

Speaker 18 (30:39):
But what I would say is that I am if
you notice.

Speaker 20 (30:41):
It, if you notice the effect that it's having. I
think people got to understand that if we don't speak out,
if we don't do anything, then we're basically saying it's okay.

Speaker 18 (30:55):
And I have to acknowledge.

Speaker 20 (30:57):
I was a little unhappy to see that there weren't
any faces of people that were being affected showing up
today to show their displeasure. You have We've got to
stop sitting on the sidelines of this, says, isn't on
the This isn't on the back of roldand Martin. This
isn't on the back of elected officials. This isn't on
the back of the King, Jeffries. This is on the
back of everyone who is worried about what the next

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generation looks like and what their opportunities are.

Speaker 18 (31:23):
And until we show that we're serious about this, I'm
afraid that you're gonna see a lot of this continue.

Speaker 20 (31:29):
And again, I want to be clear because North Carolina
gets real funny and folks get real funny about what
you're saying they are aren't doing. I'm not trying to
read anybody's mind. I'm telling you what the effect is
and if that is the effect that should be taking
into account when you're doing these things.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Well, see, I'm not reading their minds, I'm reading what
they actually said. This is from July twenty sixteen. This
is a Washington Post article. I need people to understand.
Okay again, people listen to me. Clearly, Republicans in North
Carolina have been pissed off because Obama on the state.
North Carolina used to have used to be one of

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the worst states when it came.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
To voter turnout.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
But because people, activists and others were on the ground
beating the bush and then Obama comes in, black voter
blows up, and then all of a sudden, North Carolina
rises to the top portion of the state of the
country when it came to turnout because of two thousand
and eight. Ever since then, it's being suppressed, suppressed, suppressed.
This is the article again in the Washington Post July

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twenty nine, twenty sixteen. The headline says the smoking gun proving.
North Carolina Republicans try to disenfranchise black voters, and a
federal court struck down the North Carolina voter ID law,
and the architect of that was Tom Tiller's later in
the United States Senate, and you had Pat McCrory and others,

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and they laid out they found they found only thirty
one individual cases of voter impersonation.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
And the judges found that the.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Provisions quote target African Americans with almost surgical precision. This
data showed that African American disproportion lacked the most common
kind of photo ID, those issue by the Department of
Motor Vehicles. So the legislators did it on purpose quote.
With race data in hand, the legislature amended the bill

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to exclude many of the alternative photo IDs used by
African Americans. The bill retained only the kinds of IDs
that white North Carolinians were more likely to possess.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Now that's not me.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Say I think what they were doing. These are federal
judges who said, yeah, we see what they were doing.
Now let's move forward. You had an opportunity when Sherry
Beasley was Chief Justice North Flinde Supreme Court and to
your point about people falling asleep. This is a perfect example.
Had she got real she lost by four hundred and

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one votes. Has she gotten and and for people who
don't understand that, people on the show, I keep to
talking about state supreme courts and while they matter when
the Democrats when because they're the Supreme Court races of
partisan When they took control of the Supreme Court, what
are they ruled against this law, They ruled against racial
jerry mandering, ruled against partisan jerry manning. They stopped the

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Republican legislature. A lot of their craziness. Those Republicans were
so pissed off they wanted to take the power of
the Supreme Court, which is supposed to be the highest
in the state, and give it to the court beneath
them because Republicans control that. So what happens she runs
a reelection, she loses. So Democrats could have had a
six to one majority. It went to four to three
the next election. I think it was a brother who

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was on the court. He ran for another office. They
feel that once so they flipped. Now Republicans have a
five to two majority. That's why they tried to take
out the white woman who just won of her election,
I think what seven hundred some votes, and that's why
they have been trying to target. They tried to impeach
Anita Earls because she gave her opinion on diversity and

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so and so I need our people to understand have
black folks, especially in the East, the black built east
North Carolina. Had we maximize our votes, Robert, we'll be
having a different conversation in North Carolina about political power.

Speaker 18 (35:17):
Exactly forty votes per county.

Speaker 20 (35:19):
If we picked up forty votes per county Cherry Beasley's
in place, everything's different right now.

Speaker 18 (35:24):
But we chose not to do that. And that's what
I'm saying. We've got to decide. And here's the gift
we've been given, Roland.

Speaker 20 (35:30):
The gift is that now the federal government said they
want churches fully involved.

Speaker 18 (35:35):
They want churches to take positions that's.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Right, from the pulpit.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Church pastures can endorse from the pulpit.

Speaker 12 (35:42):
Yes.

Speaker 20 (35:43):
So that's an opportunity because the strongest, the largest motivator,
and the largest position maker that we have had in
our history has been the black church. So this is
an opportunity for every black pastor in this country to
step up I'll try to take care of any particular party.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Or group, but to take care of their own, take
care of their parishioners. Yes, that's it.

Speaker 21 (36:07):
And so all you got to do is.

Speaker 20 (36:08):
Take the position, who's going to help the people that
I am pastoring, the people I am preaching to, the
people who don't have health care, the people who.

Speaker 18 (36:17):
Don't have educational opportunities.

Speaker 20 (36:19):
Do you know how hard it is in North Carolina
right now? If you don't live in one of the
big cities to get anything. You don't have public transportation,
you don't have these private schools that they're throwing all
of our tax money into.

Speaker 18 (36:30):
You don't have any of this stuff, and.

Speaker 20 (36:32):
So you've got to depend on the government that at
least give you a shot. And folks that live in
rural North Carolina are getting killed on this, which again
is what makes taking Don Davis out so treacherous.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
So before going to panel with questions, and I'll tell
you this here, I had a pastor, This was Remmer
Shopton had his National Action Network conference and a pastor
called me asking me if I was attending.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
I wasn't. I had something else to do, And he said,
he asked me he's said. He said.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
They were having a panel on the state of the
Black Church doing Trump. I said, man, stop wasting y'all breath.
He was like, what I said, this is what y'all
should be focused on. I said, this is all you
used to be focused on. You should be focused on.
What is the National Action Network's committee specifically for North

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Carolina and Georgia. I said, there's a US Senate race
in twenty twenty six. I said, Anita Earles is on
the ballot to retain her Supreme Court seat. In twenty
twenty six.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
I said, NAN and.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Other religious groups should be locked and loaded, saying we're
gonna have massive turnout in twenty twenty six. When I
met I'm giving the I'm giving when I when I
met with the Alphas during the CBC UP, I said
the exact same thing I'm giving the I'm giving the
National Pan Hellenic keynote speech at the conference on October

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thirty first in Houston. I'm telling them the exact same thing,
And this is what I told them. I said, no disrespect,
y'all should ignore West North Carolina. I said, because what
happens is all the attention is always in West North
Carolina and I'm gonna put so. And I was saying
the same thing when I was in North Carolina. I
was there, we were broadcasting and doing things for Vice

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President Kamala Harris. And what I said to them is
what often happens. All of the money, all of the
visits go to North Carolina. She made twenty two visits
as during the four years to North Carolina, made one
visit to East North Carolina one. And what I said
to folks is you got to understand the state. And
you know this very well when you look at the

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state of North Carolina and you break it down and
what people have to understand, folks, So go to my
iPad right now, y'all.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
This is a state right here.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
If you basically, if you send let's just say you
see Raleigh. If I draw a line, let's see here, now,
I'm ana pull I'm.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Gonna pull up.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Give me one second, I'm gonna pull this ad pops up.
I'm gonna do this here. If I and tell me
if I'm wrong here, Robert, if I put that line
to the left where it says Raleigh, and that line
goes straight down, let's say where it says Grandville, goes
down the way hornet of cumbling.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
If I draw that line down.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
There and I say I'm gonna hit everything to the
right of that line, that's the richest part of black
voters that gets the least amount of tention and the
least amount of money to turn out any election statewide.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Correct yes or no?

Speaker 18 (39:45):
Absolutely correct? That is it and rolling. What is interesting
is that I've heard pundits up until recently tell us, well, no,
you know, we can't do anything down the east.

Speaker 20 (39:55):
There's not much so and you're seeing numbers of thirty
percent population in the county, forty percent populations in counties,
and we're just not going out there talking to Just
go out there and talk to them, tell them what's
going on, and they come right back.

Speaker 18 (40:08):
And I'm glad you brought up activating the alphas.

Speaker 20 (40:12):
I've activated my opportunity, cappus and I mean, and the
local campus have gone crazy about trying to get out here.

Speaker 18 (40:18):
They're canvasing now.

Speaker 20 (40:20):
And my question is why is the Divine nine not
doing this? I mean, we've got an opportunity. We can
knot doors every day until twenty six.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Right, you don't need permission.

Speaker 18 (40:31):
They will welcome us you'd be shocked. I was shocked.
I've never not doors for a ran for office. I
was shocked at how pappy people were to see and
to see us, and to see faces they felt they
could relate to. And you'd be shocked at how many
people want to help us do that.

Speaker 20 (40:46):
I had organizations called when I talked about the activism
of and I give a shout out to Tony and
Rowley Alumna chapter.

Speaker 18 (40:53):
But when he was talking about look, I want a canvas.
I want to do these things.

Speaker 20 (40:57):
I want to organize, they said, free training. You tell
us when to show up, where to show up. We
will train you, we will talk to you, we will
help you, we will attend, we will stay out of
the way if you wants.

Speaker 18 (41:08):
But there is no reason.

Speaker 20 (41:10):
We had a bill last year that would all but
effectively shut down the Divine.

Speaker 18 (41:15):
Nine on all campuses in North Carolina. I mean, think
about that. Look at what just happened at UNC Chapel
Hill fifty two years.

Speaker 20 (41:24):
They've been part of that lounge and then just take
it just like that, like they were never there and
we're not standing up. Think of the athletic money that
you've got, You think of all of the people that
we have. At one point in time, we had two
black billionaires in North Carolina. Why aren't we activating these networks?

Speaker 9 (41:41):
So I'm with you.

Speaker 18 (41:42):
I mean, it's all this opportunity and we're just letting
it go.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Questions from a panel. Rebecca First, thank you so.

Speaker 19 (41:51):
Much for being on the show tonight. So I lead
a national voting rights nonprofit. We do a lot of
work in North Carolina, including work on college campuses with
organizing those campuses for civic engagement.

Speaker 5 (42:05):
We do nonpartisan work.

Speaker 19 (42:07):
But how can non partisan organizations such as Fair Election
Center support to make sure that when redistricting happens that
is fair, is following the law, and it's not having
a negative impact on marginalized communities.

Speaker 18 (42:25):
Well, I'll tell you that's a great question, and I
appreciate you asking that question.

Speaker 20 (42:28):
Nonpartisan groups have a special opportunity because the lines have
been drawn so well. And not apologize that. I guess
that sound like a pun, but I'm saying in the
sense of there are folks who feel like everybody should
be voting. There are folks, see you feel like everybody
shouldn't be voting. And if you believe in voting, it's
a pretty easy thing. Here are the ways that we
can make it easier to vote. Here's how voting affects you.

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I won't talk to a group of college students last night.
One thing I talked walked them through is how there
is no business in America that has not become success
because of the government taking interest in that business boom
and writing some that would help those businesses go forward.

Speaker 18 (43:06):
I went to speak a no, no.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
No, no, no, no no. Stop stop stock and now
stop stock.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Need you to repeat that again for the people in
the back who don't understand, who say government don't do
nothing in my life. Government ain't got no impact on
my life. Every business knows that's a lot. Go ahead
and say it again.

Speaker 20 (43:25):
And that's why these businesses spend so much money in elections.
That's why Citizens United was such a game changer, because.

Speaker 18 (43:34):
Now businesses can say this is going to help my business.
I'm going to pour money into it. We just had
that happen here in North Carolina.

Speaker 20 (43:40):
We got a brand new industry that didn't exist because
the business donated some money.

Speaker 18 (43:44):
At least that's what it appears. Red Speed donates to money.

Speaker 20 (43:48):
Suddenly they've got traffic cameras deciding about who's going to
get caught for speeding, not police offices.

Speaker 18 (43:53):
Anybody else, the traffic cameras. Literally, no business.

Speaker 20 (43:58):
In this country has become successful without government stepping in,
changing regulations, helping them with loans, helping them with the.

Speaker 18 (44:06):
Ability to attract loans.

Speaker 20 (44:07):
Finance Magazine said, you can see where redline and will
or won't happen just by the representation that somebody's got
just that simple, because the government's the only ones that
can lean on a bank to say, you've got to
help these folks out, just like you're.

Speaker 18 (44:20):
Helping everybody else.

Speaker 20 (44:21):
Yep, tons of money out there you're never going to
have access to if you're not involved in government.

Speaker 9 (44:27):
Larry, Yeah, thank you for taking time this evening. And
you know, you hit on some things you talk about
the Divine nine and maybe certainly some failures in terms
of political activism. What as we move closer to the midterms,
what does political at black political activism, what will look
like in North Carolina? Do you need to consider non
traditional approaches? What is it going to look like now,

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particularly as we're talking about Jerremandry Hollo Rober.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Before you answer that question, We're not moving closer to
the midterms. We are in the cycle now, right now,
in it now, Robert, go ahead.

Speaker 20 (45:02):
Yes, And what I would say to that is simply this.
You can always be innovative, but I'm telling you there
are things that work that we just don't utilize. And
that's that's the problem. You don't have to reinvent the wheel.
I am telling you factually.

Speaker 15 (45:14):
How do I know?

Speaker 20 (45:15):
Because we had a race in North Carolina in one
of our districts state House districts that got the side
of by four hundred votes. Republicans spent almost two million
jobs to just knock doors, to pay people to knock doors,
which means they know that it works in areas.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Hold up they pay. Hold up.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
The Republicans pay people a total two million to knock doors. Democrats,
stop expecting us to knock on doors for free.

Speaker 18 (45:44):
Robert, go ahead, there you going, there, you go.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
I ain't got a problem saying it, but go right ahead.

Speaker 18 (45:49):
Stop stop expecting people to volunteer.

Speaker 20 (45:51):
Do you know how many people that are working two
jobs that would love to give up their second job
if you just give them the money to supplement they
believe in your cause.

Speaker 18 (46:00):
They just need help. We can't afford to just stop.

Speaker 20 (46:03):
You can't even afford to serve in that general Assembly
right now, we get paid thirteen thousand dollars a year
and we run almost a full two years.

Speaker 18 (46:11):
So that means if you got to have a job
that pays your thumb playing to supplement.

Speaker 20 (46:14):
And on top of that gets you the leeway to
leave misswork for weeks on in and then come.

Speaker 18 (46:19):
Back and pretend like nothing has happened.

Speaker 20 (46:22):
Stop expecting people to give up their livelihoods, especially when
we don't know you know, what those results are being.
And it's more dangerous now than it's ever been. Not
dangerous in the sense I'm saying oh physically, but dangerous
in the sense of we have had people that we've
asked to run, and we've asked a volunteer that have
said I was planning and run for office, but then
I was told I'm gonna lose my job.

Speaker 18 (46:43):
I was told if I do these things, this is
what's going to happen.

Speaker 20 (46:47):
We've got to be more considerate of those factors and
make sure people have the ability to get out of help.

Speaker 18 (46:52):
But again back to the original.

Speaker 20 (46:54):
Question, there are tons of time proven methods to get
people out to vote, and the doors that are knocked
on the very least are black doors.

Speaker 18 (47:05):
Now I'm going to hear what's happening.

Speaker 17 (47:09):
Thank you, Robert. I think this is really important. I'm
a former North Carolina resident. My family lives in District one,
so I am very aware of many of the issues
that are happening.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Right.

Speaker 17 (47:20):
My family's from Warren County, Halifax Advance, and so it
is it's not surprising, given the way that these places
have historically been treated by the state, that this would
happen yet again. Right, But this is also the same
place that was the home of the environmental justice movement.

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These people were not well resourced, These people were not
the best educated, but they knew something was wrong in
their communities. So how do we tap into that spirit again?
And also how do we bring in in this generation
of young people because we have high drop out rates
in this very same district. We have a lot of
also very motivated college students in and around a District

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one in other parts of eastern North Carolina. So how
do we mobilize those young people who want to do
something and are actually in a place where it matters.
The margins are what's making elections in these places in
and around the state of North Carolina. So how do
we bring those constituencies together of young people along with
this spirit of our elders who showed us that laying

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down in the street can be a really effective way
to get some movement in some traction if you need to,
and you don't have to know everything about an issue
to do that.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Robert, while you're talking, we're actually playing the video of
when the head of the ep AT, Michael Reagan, was
there North Carolina announcing these monumental changes. We actually were
the only media outlet broadcasting live from there.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
So go right ahead, exactly.

Speaker 18 (48:51):
And I think that's such a wonderful point that you
brought up.

Speaker 20 (48:54):
Everybody thinks that you got to have this background, it's training,
all this kind of stuff. All of a sudden, I
thought that when I got electo, I was scared enough
to go up there because I was just like, I
wasn't ready for this, I wasn't planning to do this.
And then you get in you realize all that matters
is you work and you try, and people will reward
you for effort. Again, I bring back up talking to
these college students you will hear the narrative when there's

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a bunch of adults in the room saying, these kids
don't care, these kids won't do this, and these kids
won't do that, And then you go talk to them,
and all they want somebody to do is come to
them and say, hey, what's going on, how does it
connect to me? And tell me how I can change things?
And when they find that out, that will outwork everybody
in the room. And if you do this in northeast
North Carolina, with the history that it has, it would

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be amazing. The environmental justice movement was one of the
most important movements that we had going on in North
Carolina because one of the things folks didn't realize is
how bad black people were affected and other minority groups.
By this, I mean that goes through talklong fights and
all these kinds of things.

Speaker 18 (49:54):
But you've got to let people know and we just
don't talk to people not one of those things. And
I appreciate what you guys are doing even today. It's
not something where you can place all the blame on
any particular group.

Speaker 20 (50:06):
It's a lot of people that have just decided that
we're not going to go out here and talk to
these folks or educate them because they.

Speaker 18 (50:12):
Don't fit some narrative. And I'm telling you there is
not a human being breathing that you shouldn't be talking to.

Speaker 20 (50:18):
I'd be talking to people fourteen and fifteen too, because
at some point they're going to be voting.

Speaker 18 (50:22):
Start with kids early. I'm sorry, with my kids.

Speaker 20 (50:25):
I start with my kids when they were young and
just telling them, here are the issues, Here are the
ways that they affect you.

Speaker 18 (50:29):
Here are the things that you can do to change it.
This is what you've got to do. But we've all
got to have those conversations.

Speaker 20 (50:34):
We can't depend We're not gonna have another Barack Obama
in our lifetimes, most likely simply because we don't appreciate
how great a person he was, how magical he was
for the moment. We're not gonna have another William Barber
in North Carolina anytime in our lifetimes. You've got to
take it upon yourselves, all of us, to say that
we're not gonna let moments pass where we don't have

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these discussions with people.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Well, I'm gonna say this here, You've got uh. There's
a lot of excitement on the Democratic side because you've
got former Governor Royal Cooper running for the United States Senate.
I want to reach out to his campaign for he
and not to have a conversation. Uh, but this is
also what has to happen, and this is this is
where and I and I think this is important for

(51:18):
whether I think for you, for Congressoman, all my Adams
and Davis and let's say grassroots folks, and that is Uh.
It has to be a very loud and clear statement
made to the white strategists, let meet air, to the

(51:38):
white media strategists, to the white campaign strategists who control
the money, to say, y'all want to dump all your
money on television, you better put your damn money on
the ground. And the reality is cause see, we went there,
we had we we were there. We were there in
churches in Rocky Mount, we went to Elizabeth City, we

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went to face Atville State. We did broadcast from those campuses.
And what people need to understand is you got to
be there, and you got to be It has to
be constant. You've got to be knocking on doors four
or five, six times. The money has to be there.
And I'm gonna keep challenge the d nine and I'm
gonna keep challenge Prince Hall Mason. I'm sorry I keep
saying that Eastern Star as well. I'm tired of having

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all these black groups and we meet and well, what
are we meeting for? How do you use your power?
But we got to put pressure on the folk with
money to say, you keep spending money, but then you
want us to be sharecroppers. You want us to volunteer
work for free and turn out votes to see strategists
and others get rich. No, better put that money on

(52:42):
the ground. And I'm telling you right now that seat
in North Carolina can be flipped. Georgia can be held.
We can actually defeat these people. And here's the piece.
Anita Earls gets re elected three of those state Supreme
Court seats Republicans hole up in twenty eight, they can

(53:03):
get taken out. And so if those can be flipped,
all of a sudden, you win those three in North
Carolina and twenty eight, all of a sudden, Democrats have
a majority on that state Supreme Court and they can come.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Back because Republicans did this year.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
For people who are watching, the Democratic controlled Supreme Court
had a made judicial rulings when the Republicans.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
Won in November. They came back three months after the.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Initial ruling and said we're gonna consider these cases again
and overturn those rulings. So guess what payback as a mother,
that can happen again. But we have got to maximize
our numbers. And I'm telling y'all the path to victory
in North Carolina is in the black belt of the
eastern portion of the state.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
We got to be on the ground being back and
I can tell.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
You right now we're gonna be there broadcasting like we
did last year. We're going to be there again next year.
We literally are all this damn noise Antoine's making over
here is we're sitting here putting together our crane because
we're gonna be We're gonna have multiple units out, you know,
around the country. Because I'm telling you, yeah, yeah, we

(54:12):
were doing real work here right now. All this stuff
was happening because we have to be driving the black
vote and maximizing our power.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Simples that Robert final comment.

Speaker 20 (54:24):
Final comment is this, Roland, You're absolutely around everything you're saying.
I want to add one point.

Speaker 18 (54:29):
Sometimes you can't get folks to do what you know
needs to get done. And then you have to do
it yourself.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yep.

Speaker 20 (54:36):
The money follows money. If the wealth in the black community,
and this isn't just limited to people who live in
North Carolina and Georgia oh forty eight states, everybody can participate.
You take that wealth, and that wealth starts getting channeled,
and that will starts saying I'm giving you guys money,
and this is what I want to see done with it.
And then people ignore them. You give it directly to

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the people.

Speaker 18 (54:57):
Who are gonna make it happen. Yeah, there are programs we.

Speaker 20 (55:00):
Can put in place right now that if folks will work,
put the money together and fund it. I promise you
nobody wants to get left behind. When something starts working.
That's a great thing about politics. They see something working,
everybody's going to join in.

Speaker 18 (55:13):
But when we can't go and.

Speaker 20 (55:14):
Say, hey, look, these are the people who have put
their stake in, it's hard to get other people who
already don't think like you then turn around and give
you the money. But when I can walk in and
I can say, here are these millionaires, these lack millionaires
who have for this all of this time, been the
important parts of your machine. This is what they're funding

(55:35):
and this is what they would like to see happen.
You start getting in line, and so that is my
final point is this is all doable. These margins are
so small, and I know one of the panelists said
that again, I want to repeat that the difference in
the majority in that House, for all intents and purposes,
at some point in time, has come down to about

(55:55):
six seven thousand votes.

Speaker 18 (55:57):
That's nothing.

Speaker 20 (55:58):
That's something we can overcome. We got people that won
by one hundred, people that won by seven hundred, eight hundred.
Let's make it happen. But we have got to show
that we're just as serious as we want others to be.
I've never asked anybody to do something that I don't
do myself, and so that's what I would ask, and
that is my please, thank you for holding for what
you're doing.

Speaker 18 (56:17):
Can't wait to see you down North Carolina and can't
wait to go down east with you. We got a
lot of great people that want some help and want
some chance.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Well, I've told our people, look give to black votes,
Black voters matter, groups at that who are on the ground.
I said, we can fronted ourselves and listen when black
when we got together, when.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
With black men.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
And we had that big conference call that Monday after
the death of Jebiden dropped out. A million five was raised,
and there was some people who came to me.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
It literally came to me.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
They were mad because we kept four hundred and fifty
grand one point one million went to her campaign and
I told him, you can get the hell out my
damn face. I said, we kept. I said, we kept
four and fifty grand Son. We're gonna get that money
directly to black male groups who are doing the work.
I said, so, I don't care what you got to say,
and they was backed up. I said, and we're gonna

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do it again too. And so that's the other piece.
If we can mobilize to raise a million five brothers
and then the almost too many and the sisters raised,
guess what we could do the exact same thing to
target these two states because the votes are there.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
We drive the black votes in those two states. We win. Robert,
we appreciate it. Look for to suceeed you soon North Carolina.

Speaker 18 (57:29):
Thank Rolie.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Can say one thing, yes, sir, one last thing.

Speaker 18 (57:32):
I apauseized for saying this. Here's the other thing.

Speaker 20 (57:34):
I will remind people whatever's working for black people actually
works for everybody that's working. There's an economic struggle going
on just as much as a racial struggle. Labor has
come in and been invaluable and trying to help us
out with a lot of these races for African Americans.
So make sure when we're telling this message understand if
it works for us, everybody's gonna leave.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Yeah, thank you again. Well, well that's history. Bottom line
is broke white people.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Their quality of life increase every time black people uh
fought for rights.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
That's just a fact. All right, I appreciate it. Thanks
a lot.

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Speaker 14 (01:00:22):
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Speaker 20 (01:00:26):
My name is Locke Kert, and you're watching Roland Martin
unfiltered deep into it like pasteurized milk without the two percent,
were getting deep.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
You are outing that shit off. We're doing an interview
with mother father.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Judge overseeing the prosecution of Congressman Lamonica Machiv of New
Jersey by Donald Trump and his maggots has a structured
the government to remove social media posts he deemed prejudicial
to her case. You Adistrict Judge Jamil Simper ordered Department
of Homeland Security to take down nine posts that labeled
Machira's visit to a New Jersey detention center as a
quote reckless stunt by sanctuary politicians. Judge Simper stated that

(01:01:23):
these posts quote were not factual and that the prejudice
against Macivre was self evident. Macivre repleted not guilty to
three felony charges of quote forcibly impeding and interfering with
law enforcement.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
During a May visit to the ICE facility.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Fellow authorities accused her of attacking and interfering with ICE
agents during a visit with Newitt Mayor Ross Baraka, who
was also arrested. Charters were later dismissed. Her legal team
calls the case pure politics, say Machivra's being targeted as
a Democrat while Trump parton January sixth writers and dropped
similar assault cases. If the charters aren't dropped, Makira could
face several years in prison to the charges, carried maximum

(01:01:57):
sentence of up to eight years in prison. Well, it's
like it's no shock here, Larry. They're liars, That's what
the Trump people are, they're liars.

Speaker 15 (01:02:07):
Yeah, Roland.

Speaker 9 (01:02:08):
Like you, I'm on social media a lot, and the
amount of propaganda that is being sent out is certainly
nothing we've seen like in the United States. And I
know we talk a lot about countries, other countries that
have struggled, you know, with you know, authoritarianism, but we're
seeing levels of propaganda, like I said, I've just never
seen before. And the constant Homeland Security, State, Department of Education,

(01:02:32):
they're all putting out propaganda, bullface lies. And as we know, Roland,
whether there's immigration issues or this particular topic, the Trump
administration consistently has been called out for not just fabrications,
blatant lies. And this is another example, and I'm glad
the judge called it out. The trumbling issue is that,
you know, the kind of years that she could possibly get.

(01:02:55):
And this is just another example what happens in authoritarian government.
This doesn't happen in democracies. And as you noted, those
January sixth insurrectionists are home chilling, except for the one
who you know, tried to kill Hakeem Jeffries. So we've
got to do a better job of continue to hold
these folks. You know responsible, but I think people should

(01:03:16):
also acknowledge this as an example of another black woman
who the Trump administratization has put in the crosshairs and
deemed that she's doing that she's doing something that they
don't agree with, and then.

Speaker 15 (01:03:26):
She has to be punished.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
These people are absolute thugs, Miombi, and it's no shot
the judge ordered them to delete this because everything they
do is prejudicial.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
They don't care about due.

Speaker 17 (01:03:39):
Process, absolutely not, and they certainly don't care that Representative
MacIver was there with others who were actually trying to
do their job and figure out what was happening in
these facilities. I mean, I think what we have here
is an administration and now I think I know you
said it over and over again, an administration that is

(01:04:00):
committed right to to lying, to obstructing, to ignoring, to
you know, openly flouting the law. And they are there
primarily to use black and brown people, whether they be
government officials or regular everyday citizens, to make their political point.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
And they use our pain. Uh, they use every power.

Speaker 17 (01:04:25):
At their disposal, including detention in jail, to try to
move us out of the way of what they ultimately
want to do, which is restore right. I'm using that
term very deliberately America to a place where they felt like,
you know, whites could reign supreme and and so this

(01:04:45):
does not surprise me that they are going after Representative
MacIvor in this way for essentially doing her job as
a representative and member of Congress.

Speaker 19 (01:05:00):
Recca, you know, I really don't know what I add
in addition to what the other two pedalists at it.
At the end of the day, like I said over
the previous weeks, is that we have to keep a
record or what's happening because there's going to be a reconing.
You know, it's interesting thinking about those January sixth rioters

(01:05:22):
who committed crimes by trustpassing and causing violence at the
US Capital. And you know, if we are to believe
some of the reports that are out there, there's reports
that there's possibilities that some of these folks are now
working for ICE. So it's at the end of the day,
I do believe that the congress woman would be fine.

Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
However, what we're watching is not normal. It's not okay.

Speaker 19 (01:05:47):
It's not fine to watch how First Amendment rights and
things that ordinary Americans protest or do to stand as
witnesses are is now being criminalized, and now there's whole
swaths of people who are doing that pro democracy work
who are being labeled as domestic terrorists.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
So we really have to keep our eye on this and.

Speaker 19 (01:06:09):
Understand this is not normal, and we have to make
sure that young people also understand that this isn't normal
in this country and it's not business as usual.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Well speaking of was not normal.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
The concert lying by that idiot Donald Trump, and I
remember when he said that, oh, for his big, beautiful
Mara Largo type ballroom. They were going to, well, this
is we're not even gonna touch the east wing. We're
not gonna touch it. They're gonna touch it. So what
ended up happening He lied that they're not demolishing the

(01:06:40):
East Wing. They're not demolishing it. And now the Natural
Trust for Historic Preservation they finally woke the hell up,
and so they decided to actually send a letter today,
kind of stupid after the fact, saying that the National
Trust for Historic Preservation, which is a private, charitable, educational,
nonpro corporation, charter by Congress in nineteen forty nine to

(01:07:03):
further historic preservation policies of the US. They say, this
proposed construction of a ninety thousand square football room that
you know what, it acknowledged the utility of a larger
meeting space at the White House. But they say, we're
deeply concerned that the massing and height of the proposed
new construction will overwhelm the White House itself it's fifty

(01:07:24):
five thousand square feet, and may also permanently disrupt the
carefully balanced classical design of the White House with its
two smaller and lower East and West wings. Wow, y'all
finally woke up now, mind you. In the letter, y'all,
they literally are, and it says the federally Recognized Secretary

(01:07:48):
of the Interior Standards for Rehabilitation offer come back to
my offer clear guidance for construction projects affecting historic properties.
The standards provide that new additions should not destroyed the
historic fabric of the property, and that the new work
should be compatible with existing massing, size, scale, and architectural features.

(01:08:11):
We respectfully urge the Administration of National Park Service to
pause demolition until plans for the proposed ballroom go through
the legally required public review processes, including consultation and review
by the National Capital Planning Commission and the Commission of
Fine Arts, and to invite comment from the public. Where

(01:08:37):
exactly have they been, Rebecca, Now you're saying, oh, pause, demolition.
Can y'all play the video game? They're tearing the shit down.
Trump is already said, oh, we're going to tear down
all of the East Wing, all of it. And to
that particular point, Rebecca, this is what the Washington Post

(01:08:59):
put out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
This is going to be the.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
What it's going to look like. That's how massive this
ballroom is going to be. And yeah, absolutely, it is
going to overwhelm the size of the White House. But
when you are an ego maniac narcissist, you're building a
monument to yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
And so all he's trying to do is recreate mar Largo.
This is a joke.

Speaker 15 (01:09:25):
Roland.

Speaker 19 (01:09:25):
I had a meeting over by the White House yesterday
and I actually walked by the White House to look
and observe and to actually watch the demolition happen, and
took pictures of video.

Speaker 5 (01:09:35):
Because it's ridiculous.

Speaker 19 (01:09:37):
We can talk about the aesthetics of it, because it's stupid.
I also promised my dad that I was not going
to cuss tonight. How why don't I say this welcome?

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
I know, damn well you want to touch?

Speaker 19 (01:09:50):
Can we talk about the security aspects of this? Do
people realize that there's a bunker underneath the East wing
that is the equivalent of a skiff? The people really
understand what that means? Like, so we have these people
who didn't go through regular order, who are now? Who's
so we don't even know if they pulled the proper permits.

(01:10:11):
They haven't been vetted by they haven't been vetted by
the Secret Service. We really don't know who these contractors are,
who they're subcontracting out to. We really don't understand the
integrity of the products and the and the construction pieces
that they're using to do this work. This is a
huge national security problem. This is going to be similar

(01:10:32):
to like in the eighties when at the end of
the Cold War, how throughout DC there's lots of holes
punched into the walls because of all of the bugs
that were inserted all across DC. Do people really understand
the security issues that's coming out of this. You can't
just all of a sudden destroy half of the White House.
That's not how any of this works.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
It's not.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
And here's the thing. It's not safe for the president.

Speaker 19 (01:10:56):
It's not safe for anybody who works in his administration,
who does business, or who works every day.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
In the White House.

Speaker 19 (01:11:04):
Like there's a huge safety issue here. So we could
talk about aesthetics it's ugly, but the security issues, Like
who thought that this was a good idea?

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Easy?

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
One person who believes I can do whatever I want.
I love this video here from the Daily Show. I
think this pretty much sums it up. They took, of course,
the theme song from the television show The West Wing
and called it the East Wing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Listen on this season of The East Wing.

Speaker 11 (01:11:37):
Did want to interfere with the current building. I won't
be It'll be near it, but not catching it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Well, we know that was a lie, but that's what
Donald Trump does. Larry, he lies, he lies and lies.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
Democratic Leader King Jeffries actually also addressed the issue as well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Watch this.

Speaker 22 (01:11:57):
The Republican healthcare crisis rolls worse by the day, and
yet Republicans remain on vacation for the fourth consecutive week.
Donald Trump is once again preparing to fly out of
the country. The East wing of the White House is

(01:12:18):
being demolished so that Donald Trump can construct a ballroom
where he will be celebrated like a king. And at
the same time, Trump is trying to rob taxpayers of
two hundred and thirty million dollars.

Speaker 18 (01:12:38):
To continue to line his pockets.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Not in New York Times, there's reporting that they may
even do a deal of all people who give big money,
they're going to etch their names on the side of
the wall.

Speaker 9 (01:12:50):
Yeah, so a couple things will only Yeah, this is
gonna be like the Amazon Amazon White House experience, right,
so it's super bizarre. This is when I first saw
the video, I thought it was fake because I'm like, this,
this this makes no sense.

Speaker 15 (01:13:06):
But of course it's not.

Speaker 9 (01:13:07):
It's like a bad episode of The Simpsons or South
Park or something. The other thing Roland is. I think
the point we're missing here in terms of this demolition
and creating this ballroom is he.

Speaker 15 (01:13:18):
Doesn't plan on leaving. I don't think people.

Speaker 9 (01:13:20):
Understand this, right, He's recreating mar Lago because he plans
on being here for a couple for several more years.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
An ugly ass patio. He just paid over the rose
Guard for that ugly ass patio. Yeah, somebody said this here.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
They said, well, person said that I will vote for
the candidate as it says a twenty night. My first
action will to bring a demolition to that ballroom and
the patio.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
I'm with him, goy laire.

Speaker 15 (01:13:52):
Roland.

Speaker 9 (01:13:53):
He plans on being there. Authoritarianism, This is how it works.
People need to start reading up on authoritarianism. But yeah,
and listen, if this this is Barack Obama, they would say,
what's ghetto?

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
This makes this?

Speaker 9 (01:14:03):
It makes no sense. It's an abomination. And like I said,
you know, I lived in DC for a number of years,
worked on the hill, been in the White House number
of times. I never imagine we would see something like this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
I did.

Speaker 15 (01:14:13):
But I think also people, well yeah, yeah, I mean
look the dude.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
But the moment the Supreme Court said, oh, you do
whatever you want, he went, oh hell, they have given
me permission to just his heart, he said, I can
do whatever I want.

Speaker 15 (01:14:34):
I am above the law.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
That's why I was like, yeah, y'all go get my
two and thirty million. Oh yeah, oh yeah, give me that.
For give me that four million out of plane. We're
gonna retrofit it. Then y'all gonna give it to me
to my library when I leave.

Speaker 9 (01:14:47):
Bro, come on, man, Yeah, it's just it's unbelievable. It's
super tacky and embarrassing. But this is what a lot
of folks in America vote for. They voted for this,
and like I said, they have Amazon or some other
companies name, you know, plastered somewhere on a plaque on
the White House or on the side of the building
instead of having healthcare. But you know, this is this

(01:15:10):
is where we are in America. And like I said,
it's tacky, but you shouldn't expect anything.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Less ny I said this before, I said again, if
I'm a Democrat runner and I win, I ain't asking
permissions for ship And then when when Peter Doucy with
Fox News to run, you ain't said a damn thing
about your boy. Shut your ass up with Sean HANDI
start running White House press secretary. You say, Sean Handed

(01:15:37):
kissed my ass, low Ingram kissed my ass. Fox News
all y'all can kiss my ass. That that's literally I'm
telling you I want the most gangster democratic press secretary.
I ain't even calling on Fox News for the first
six months.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
H that's been go ahead.

Speaker 17 (01:15:54):
I'm sorry, and I think you know to what everyone said,
to me even thinking about this building as something that
should be changed, right because you think about all the
iconography of the White House is it's the seals, it's everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
And that's not going to be what it is anymore.

Speaker 17 (01:16:14):
I don't even think, I mean Hilario's word, this will
be done before he leaves office, because you can guarantee
that it is probably quite likely that Donald Trump or
someone that is associated with Donald Trump is making money
off of this contry, and so this is there is
no rush to finish this, especially if he sees himself

(01:16:35):
as just sort of being permanently installed here. This is
an unnecessary building project. And the fact that you would
do it at a time when you have federal workers
who are furloughed, and federal workers who have been riffed,
and others who you know are are required to work
and not be paid, like air traffic controllers and others.

(01:16:56):
I mean, it is extraordinarily cruel to do this while
people are staring down the barrel of no snap benefits,
no EBT benefits, right, Like, all of this is happening
at the same time that we can find billions of
dollars that into Argentina to make room for white South

(01:17:17):
Africans to build this along with by two jets for
Christy Noman her outfit. And you can't figure out how
to make sure that people get paid, how to make
sure that Americans are employed, if people aren't alarmed, not
just by the historical and the security aspects, which are

(01:17:37):
very legitimate, just the optics of such opulence being created
while people are literally not knowing where they're going to
get their next meal or how they're going to provide
for their families. If that doesn't make anybody upset.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
I don't know what will.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, this is what they're doing. And
so this is how the thugs rolled, all right.

Speaker 15 (01:18:04):
Yeah, it occurred to me.

Speaker 19 (01:18:06):
It's an old building, and Trump probably got tired of
black folks saying we built that house since enslaved and
free blacks built it. But what about asbestos? You know
it probably has a spestos. So there's they're not separate remediation.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
It's about to be a bunch of they don't care.
He don't give a damn. He don't give a damn.
He do whatever you want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
He don't give a damn. His so deal is, I
don't care y'all can't stop me. And the Republicans them
punk ashes, they ain't saying that neither.

Speaker 19 (01:18:36):
So you have a bunch of people who's gonna end
up suing the federal government because they got sick because
of this.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
You don't care. He don't give a damn.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
He's like whatever. Whatever. That's how these these thugs roll.
All right, y'all going to a break. I'll be right
back rolling them on Unfiltered the Black Studd Network.

Speaker 14 (01:18:55):
As a pastor, I hear a lot about trips to
the doctor, bill's hiling up, jobs being lost. So as
your delegate, I went to work writing laws that protect families,
helping parents care for their disabled children, capping insulin costs,
lowering prescription prices, and investing in our police and schools.

(01:19:18):
I'm Josh Cole, and as your delegate, I'm working to
keep us strong and safe.

Speaker 21 (01:19:27):
If in this country right now, you have people get
up in the morning and the only thing they can
think about is how many people they can hurt, and
they've got the power.

Speaker 6 (01:19:37):
That's the time for mourning, for better or worse.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
What makes America special, it's that legal system that's supposed
to protect minorities, from the tyranny of the majority.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
We are at a point of a moral emergency.

Speaker 15 (01:19:52):
We must raise a voice of outrage.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
We must raise a voice of compassion, and we must
raise a voice of unity.

Speaker 6 (01:20:03):
We are not in a crisis of party versus party.

Speaker 21 (01:20:07):
We are in a crisis of civilization, a humans rights crisis,
and a crisis of democracy itself. And guess what, You've
been chosen to make sure that those that would destroy,
those that would hate, don't have the final say and
they don't ultimately win.

Speaker 16 (01:20:27):
Now that Roland Martin is ruling to give me the
blueprint cast rise, I need to go to Tyler Ferr
and get another blueprint because.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
I need some green money. The only way I can
do what I'm doing.

Speaker 6 (01:20:37):
I need to make your money.

Speaker 5 (01:20:38):
So you'll see me working with Roland.

Speaker 16 (01:20:40):
Matter of fact, it's a Roland Martin and charlandon show.
What should it be, the show Munus show at Roland show. Well,
whatever show it's gonna be, it's gonna be good.

Speaker 10 (01:21:00):
In in.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
In in.

Speaker 15 (01:21:16):
In in.

Speaker 10 (01:21:25):
In in in in in in.

Speaker 23 (01:21:54):
Int m m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Alive of me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
I don't understand decisions that a lot of these people
are making today talk about diversity and things along those lives.
So Rebecca Aguilar, who was the former president of the
Side of Professional Journalist, she posted this a few days
ago on her LinkedIn page. That struck me as odd,
she says, as a society professional journalist following the Trump

(01:23:15):
agenda by wiping out diversity efforts. After more than fifteen years,
the Dowry J. Maynard Diversity Leadership Program has been canceled.
It was a decision made by Emily Block, the outgoing president.
The program was named after Dorry J. Maynard after she
passed away in twenty fifteen. I knew Dorry very very well, folks.

(01:23:36):
She was a well known journalist who committed her time
to advocate for diversity and newsrooms in SPJ. She was
one of my mentors in the program in twenty ten.
Her dad, also Robert Mayne, was the publisher of the
Oakland Tribune. A leadership program gave journalists of different backgrounds, race, religion,
LGBTQ disabilities the experience of a national conference Media Fest

(01:23:56):
twenty five and mentors. The outgoing president also were staffed
Diversity Committee putting an end to it too. We all
know the importance of these SPJ programs, they make it impact.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
I chaired, I chaired Let's see here. I'm I pull
up the next one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
I chaired Let's see here, hold on PERD program to
make an impact. I chaired the Committee an Organized Leadership
program for more than five years when I was spj's
national president. I made sure everyone felt included. I knew
the organization was changing when it elected me, the first
Latina and woman of color to lead the organization in
one hundred and twelve years. But since then, it has

(01:24:34):
lost more than two thousand members according to insiders. My
hope is the new president, Chris Lacarro, will revaluate the
decision and bring back the Committee and leadership program. I'm
sharing photos of past fellows who have gone on to
do great things in journalism and other careers. I made
sure we even had the program during the pandemic during
the SPG conference was online and no money was not

(01:24:57):
an issue to keep this program. It was fund by
the SPJ Foundation that currently has at least sixteen million
dollars in the bank.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Okay, that's what she actually wrote there, and she.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
Added, you know, you all know I fight for all
journalists and help you get jobs but diversity matters too.
Please repost infost power. Also, if you were at Media
Fast twenty five this week, find the incoming leaders and
ask why and where they stand on diversity. This is
the thing that we're seeing right here, Neombi. And we're
seeing this in journalism, We're seeing it in academia, we're

(01:25:34):
seeing in business. Donald Trump, and again I predicted all.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
This in life.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
Here, what you're seeing is you are seeing white folks
showing their true colors. The people who actually believed in
these issues. They're like, all right, so y'all tripping our names.
We can change the names, but the mission ain't changing.
But it's a lot of people who never really believed
in these programs who are like, hoo good, we ain't

(01:26:01):
gonna do that bullshit. Now we straight we could go
do whatever the hell we want to do. That is
what we're seeing, Yanbi Oh.

Speaker 17 (01:26:09):
Absolutely, and I think there are a lot of people
who Donald Trump gave them the permission, right, He gave
them the opening so they could do the things that
they wanted to do, like roll back these efforts without
appearing to be racist or homophobic or misogynistic or whatever
they might be. Right, and so There are a lot
of people who have capitulated very quickly because, as you

(01:26:31):
rightly point out, they never wanted to do this in
the first place.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
They view it as a burden.

Speaker 17 (01:26:35):
They don't really believe in the value added proposition of
more diversity, even though by every metric it makes organizations
and professions better, more innovative, and it makes people happier,
right like people generally feel better when more voices are
at the table. Yet there are people who felt like, Hey,
I don't need to do any of this, I understand

(01:26:58):
what the issues are. You know, you can hear people
throw around terms like ideological diversity because they don't think
diversity means that in a broad term, broad sense, it
only means race, or it only means gender because they
don't care about any of that. That's the stuff they
don't want to do, right. They don't want to do
racial equity work, they don't want to talk about it,

(01:27:18):
they don't want to be made uncomfortable, and they certainly
don't want to have anybody challenge their power or bring
more people into those institutions that are going to call
them to the mat on their bs. And we know
how these professional organizations can operate just like academia and
other places there can be very close to the leadership
can be very short sighted and white focused, quite frankly,

(01:27:41):
and so they wanted to do this anyway. Trump gave
them the opening. They can do it without seeming racist.
They're just going to, you know, comply a priori with
no sort of inplication.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Yep, yep, yep. I mean just it is.

Speaker 24 (01:27:57):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
You just said the promission. So check this out in.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Yambie, but on my iPad, look at Gannett. Gannett will
stop publishing diversity information, citing Trump's executive order. The company
also removed mentioned of diversity from its corporate site.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
I'm sorry, Rebecca. Trump's executive order.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
Does not compel a publicly traded company to do this, then.

Speaker 15 (01:28:25):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Mind you, Gannet's the America's largest newspaper chain, and this
one makes it this even more despicable. Our new hearth
found a view say today he was the Sea of Gannett.
He was the one who changed the industry when he
said we're going to be the leading We're going to
be the most diverse media company in the country. He said,
I am going to tie your promotions and bonuses to

(01:28:48):
diversity and if you don't like it, you can leave
the company. And by that action, he forced Connet to change,
and every other media company had to keep up because
they were losing minority talent.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
And so I don't understand what SPJ is doing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
And so the new president, and I'm vice president Digital
from National Association and Black Journalist, trust me, he's going
to be hearing from me because this is idiotic that
why would you get rid of a leadership program that
has been effective? And shame on Emily Block who was
the president for making this decision.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Oh and because the new.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
President, he was the vice president of the time, so
I want if he said anything, he's the president now,
so now it's on him.

Speaker 19 (01:29:30):
Rebecca, sounds like they're committed to blandness and they're committed
to Mediocrity's that's what I hear out of that statement.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
People.

Speaker 19 (01:29:42):
I almost want to say, it really burns me that
people think that people of color, especially black people, don't
bring something to the table.

Speaker 5 (01:29:48):
That we aren't smart, we.

Speaker 19 (01:29:49):
Aren't brilliant, we don't over index and overperform. Like quite frankly,
to have us on your team, you're getting great value
and you're getting a hell of an ROI. So to
hear them walk back and say this, it's like, have
you ever been in a fight? Have you ever learned
how to take a punch? So what the president put
out an EO? So what you don't want to get
attacked with?

Speaker 5 (01:30:09):
Guess what? He's going to attack everybody.

Speaker 19 (01:30:11):
So at this point stand with everybody else who like,
you can't punch all of us at the same time.
So okay, good luck with that. I mean, really tell
this president to go the hell at the end of
the day.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Yeah, this is the moment where we see who it
is for real, who are real allies Larry and who
were performative?

Speaker 9 (01:30:33):
Yeah, I want to go to Rebecca's point. You know,
some people have never been punched in the face before,
and you see it, right, they they can, they get,
they get, they get a jazz, and they're ready.

Speaker 15 (01:30:41):
To give up.

Speaker 9 (01:30:42):
The reason why that is roll into these these spaces
me I'm you know, and I noticed some higher education
the Ivory Tower, they were not they're not they're not
built for us. We're not supposed to be there. And
there are even these very moderate or liberal you know, uh,
you know individuals who don't want us there, and they
may vot, they might consider themselves to be progressive. This

(01:31:02):
is all centered into white supremacy, and that's just the
bottom line. They don't want to see us there. They
certainly don't want to see us accomplished more than they
have because it forces people to think about their identity
and their place in the world. And this is this
is a story that's been written in this country for
Center Richard century, since our first enslaved Africans abroad to

(01:31:23):
our ancestors. But this is rooted in white supremacy. That's
the bottom line. They don't want to fight because they
didn't want to stay in the first place.

Speaker 19 (01:31:31):
Room.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
Oh no, they didn't want us in the first place.
So SPJ y'all be hearing from me and an ANBJ.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Trust me you will, folks, Arizona Trade General assuming House
Speaker Mike Johnson, the man that he swear in and
duly elected to remember of Congress. She won her lay
father's seat in Landsltly a month ago, and Johnsons been
holding up y'all was swearing in until sid Democrats agreed
to end the government shut down.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Y'all, y'all do know that he did this twice for Republicans,
and he.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Just keeps saying that, Oh, oh, I'm an do other
thing now. He's saying that now Traine General. Arizona Trade
General Chris Ma says there's no legal reason to block
her again. She's Arizona's first Latina elected to Congress. She says, Yo,
I'm ready to go to work.

Speaker 25 (01:32:22):
Today's day twenty eight since my election, and I think
that it's really important that we appreciate that eight hundred
and twelve thousand Arizonans do not have representation in Congress.
My dad passed away a little over seven months ago
in March, and since that time, the offices were able
to provide constituent services all that it was the People's

(01:32:44):
Office of Arizona ced seven. On September twenty third, those
services ended, and so I do not have access to
provide services in district. And I think that it's I
also don't have a budget. So this back and forth,
back and forth is on my miles that I had
stored up because I don't have a budget. I don't

(01:33:06):
I'm not able to open a lease in district. And
I think that you know the efforts that have been
provided to me, and I'm appreciative of the administration's effort.
The departments in the administration. They're trying to provide piecemeal
solutions to some of the problems that we have. But respectfully,
there's so much that cannot be done until I am

(01:33:27):
sworn in.

Speaker 6 (01:33:29):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
Jonson says, you can do the work.

Speaker 26 (01:33:35):
There's nothing to see here. And I told Khalva, you know,
in the press carver to explain, and I told my
cam she needs to get to work. She needs to
stop doing TikTok videos and serve her constituents. The only
thing that she hasn't done is taken the oath and
will administer it as soon as possible. But in the meantime,
she should be taking her constituent calls. She should have
her sixteen employees that she's already hired and here working

(01:33:56):
like all my staff's working to handle the crisis that
has been created by the Democrat. Her constituents have serious
challenges and problems right now, she can be directing them
to the right offices, and if it's something outside of
her scope, she can send it to her two senators
because they apparently have a lot of idle time right now.

Speaker 6 (01:34:11):
Because they're doing TikTok.

Speaker 26 (01:34:12):
Videos themselves out in front of my office for publicity stunts.
So the whole thing is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
I'm confused, Rebecca. How can you do the job if
you're not sworn in to.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Do the job.

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
I've never heard where the candidate elect can actually start
doing the job.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
But they have missed wanting yet.

Speaker 5 (01:34:38):
She doesn't even have her congressional pid. She can't even
go to the floor of the house.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
Yeah, when she comes to the house, she has to
go through the visitor line.

Speaker 19 (01:34:48):
Yes, yes, So you're really trying to tell me that
she can hire sixteen staffers on what budget. You cannot
do that unless you're sworn in and then officially.

Speaker 18 (01:34:57):
You get your budget.

Speaker 5 (01:34:58):
So it's making stuff up.

Speaker 19 (01:34:59):
At this point, they should just say, what did the
press secretary to say last week? Your mama, you know it,
just replied to him, like, you know what, Speaker Johnson,
your mama, Like, what.

Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
Is he talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 19 (01:35:12):
He's such a bad liar. If you're gonna lie, get
up and lie every day, at least be good at it.
He's not even good at it. And it's quite frankly,
it's ridiculous, and what he's lucky that they're not standing
not just outside of his office, but they're not sitting
outside of his house, that they're not. In fact, the
entire delegation need to go down the Shreeve Court, Like

(01:35:32):
I know you talked about this Rowland, how they went
to New Orleans. They should go to Shreveport instead, and
they just just hold a daily press conference and talk
about the Epstein files and talk about the insurance premiums are.

Speaker 5 (01:35:43):
Going up because of Speaker Johnson. Make him deal with
this local press, and that's.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
All this is nimbi.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
He does not want her swe in because that's the
two hundred and eighteenth discharge vote on the Epstein files.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
Absolutely, and he's going to kick this can as far
down the road as he can.

Speaker 5 (01:36:02):
But but Rebecca said it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
Was really important here.

Speaker 17 (01:36:05):
I mean, he doesn't even have to lie, right, like
just say, I don't want to because that's their answer
to everything else that's happening in this administration.

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
I mean he was on ABC, Oh the peloic pressure
in Oh, it was this. I mean that more hoppened
all over the place, and there's no.

Speaker 5 (01:36:25):
Need to lie.

Speaker 17 (01:36:26):
This has been an administration that is said, we will
fly out every authority. We don't care about custom, we
don't care about norms, we don't care about.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
Doing our jobs. We said no.

Speaker 17 (01:36:37):
And so you know Mike Johnson sitting there saying she
can do this work, which I believe would probably be
illegal at this point if without being sworn in. It's nuts,
but he knows that. I think the fact that he
even cares to lie at this point tells us something
that he doesn't have the strength of his own convictions

(01:37:00):
leaving anything, probably besides the fact that he wants to
try to keep his own job, and nobody there seems
to like him very much in the house.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
But this this is not about.

Speaker 17 (01:37:11):
TikTok videos or any of this other stuff. It's about
him not leading and not doing his job as Speaker
of the House.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
They don't want to deal with Epstein. That's all this is.
And I love this lad.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
He's like, well, you know, well the old one they
flew the family members in and they're like, so you're
saying she fly her family ambazine, you're gonna do it? Well,
well no, that like, dude, just right, stop trying to
just sit in here. Simply say, ain't gonna have it right, listen,
this just.

Speaker 9 (01:37:38):
Keep it one hundred, you know, like then y'all behaved
on it. I mean they're pretty much usually telling you like,
we're just not gonna do it. Listen, Roland the congress
woman that can't even open a bank account the Congressional
Credit Union, or to take out a loan.

Speaker 15 (01:37:51):
To pay her staff.

Speaker 9 (01:37:52):
You know, so this idea is somehow she could do
the work, and she's you know, sixteen staffers.

Speaker 15 (01:37:58):
It's a former conrectial staffer. And look, many budgets.

Speaker 9 (01:38:00):
Listen, you get elected, you get a lot of the budget,
and you hire people, you get a key, et cetera.

Speaker 15 (01:38:06):
She can't do any of that.

Speaker 9 (01:38:07):
He knows that this whole this, you know, this game
he's playing at speaker at her house is really beneath
the you know, beneath what we've seen in the past
in terms of Pelosi and other strong speakers of the House,
who would you know, if there's an issue, they would
speak to you directly. But he's he's weaseling around the
issue instead of just being straightforward. And look, we talked

(01:38:30):
about the m Stein file.

Speaker 15 (01:38:34):
That's that's weasels. Weasel I mean, you know, every time,
every time I.

Speaker 9 (01:38:41):
See him, it's like, you know, he reminds me, you know,
some guy you see, you know, walk out your house,
hide and behind the bushes somewhere. You know, you cannot
trust him. And he's not serving not only her constituents,
he's not serving you know, you know, his own constituents
and his constituency of the other four hundred and thirty
four members of Congress who should be back voting on

(01:39:01):
substance substantive issues in terms of their proporations process. But
that's a whole other issue relating to you know, a
cr But he just he needs to be honest and
stop lying and pretending like and making up in every
other excuse under the under the under the sun he
can think about. You're the speaker of the House. It
is beneath that that position to squirm and make up
all kinds of excuses.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
This is called the protection of pedal files.

Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
At the end of the day, listen, if you keep
saying there's nothing in the files, you don't fight this
hard for them not to get released. I mean there's
a lot of fighting, Rebecca, like a whole lot, like
a lot.

Speaker 19 (01:39:41):
I mean, you have a prince across the pond who's
losing his titles because of the Epstein files. But you
don't really say that there's nothing in those files. Come on, now,
come on, or even seeing that I'm a former Israeli
Prime minister was in those files, come on, like we
we we know what's going on. And at the end

(01:40:03):
of the day, the fouls are going to come out,
and that's the thing. They are going to come out.
So now Mike Johnson is now going to be known
as the keeper of the pedophile foules that he supported
protecting those files from being released.

Speaker 5 (01:40:19):
That's the thing. I'm just like, what is his end goal?

Speaker 19 (01:40:22):
He thinks that Congress isn't going to be in session
until until the midterm elections, Like does he really think
that this is going to continue for the next thirteen
months thirteen fourteen months? It's not those two hundred and
eighteen votes, sorry, those two hundred and eighteen signatures are
going to happen for the discharge to happen. So what's

(01:40:42):
what's the end goal? Like he's just going to fight
this for like two more weeks, Like come on.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
Yeah, oh no, hey, listen, if they vote on the bucket.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
He gonna find some other excuse. Danby then ain't like no,
I ain't. I'm keep y'all on.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
I mean they have been on vacation seventy two of
the last seventy three, the last eighty five days.

Speaker 17 (01:41:05):
Look, I mean they are dug in their heels. He
has his marching otors. Those files are not to come out,
and he is going to do everything he can. I
agree with Rebecca. They're going to come out eventually, but
they're going to do everything they can in the meantime
to prevent that from happening. That means hurting the American people.
That means, you know, ruining his credibility, and everybody else

(01:41:26):
is in his party to do it. I mean, this
is the same party that, remember a few years ago,
was running with the story that Hillary Clinton and John
Podesta were running a ring of pedophiles. And here we are,
our president has pictures with an actual convicted pedophile and
his handler.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
And they're victims, and some birthday drawings and some birthday drawings.

Speaker 5 (01:41:50):
And everything else.

Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
And you're talking about there's nothing to see here.

Speaker 17 (01:41:54):
So I agree with you, Roland. This is the case
of thou doth protest too much. And this was also
what they campaign on, right yuply transparency. You're gonna let
you see them and even their own voters there he
I mean, when you have Marjorie Taylor Green and others saying, well,
what's happening here? That should put us all at some disease?

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
Absolutely all right, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
Federal John's extended the block are the Trump administration's deployment
of hundreds of National Guard troops into Chicago and across Illinois.
The Justice Department told Used District Judge April Perry it
agreed to the extension.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
To facilitate the Supreme Court's review.

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
Of the Administration's appeal seeking to overturn the block decision,
and stems from the lawsuit file by the seat of
Chicago and the State of Illinois challenging the president's authority
to deploy troops within the state. Supreme Court could rule
on the administration's request at any time. Judge Perry caution
under federal rules, she can extend the temporary restraining order
only once. That means the court must soon decide whether

(01:42:51):
to proceed with a preliminary injunction hearing conduct the trial
on the marriage of the lawsuit or convert the timporary
restraining order into a preliminary injunction without a hearing. Don't
be surprised if what you know, they'll just kill Trump
whatever he wants. Oh, remember that white guy, the racist
Donald Trump's picked the lead a key federal washdog agency.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
Well, his punk ass resign.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
That's right, Paul and Grace. She has withdrawn his domination
to head the office. A special counsel at the political
revealed a series of racist text messages. He said to
fellow Republicans. You know, Thorny, your lawyer. We're facing backlash
from saying Democrats and Republicans, forcing him to drop out
just one day before his confirmation hearing. Messages linked to
integration included racist slurs, praise for Nazis, a demmigration of

(01:43:35):
black holidays like MLKDA, Juneteenth, and Kawanza, said. Majority of
leader Johnathune and at least three other GFP senators said yeah, no,
I can't do this. I can't do this now. You
know it must be something Larry when they when the
Republicans say shit, even he too racists for us?

Speaker 9 (01:43:55):
Yeah, a bridge too far in white supremacy. I never
thought I would see the day.

Speaker 21 (01:43:59):
But here we are.

Speaker 15 (01:44:00):
You're right, it's always interesting to hear some of the
other Republicans say, well you going, you went, You went
too far. This is too racist, damn.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
Right.

Speaker 15 (01:44:11):
You know when the racists say you're a racist, that's
really you know how bad it is. But he still works,
He's still got a job, Roland. We should still know
he's still a federal employee.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
Be fired from their job, Oh no, no, no, because Trump,
the GP TROMP don't mind racist? Oh is that Trump
don't mind racist? He got Steven millsit right next to him.

Speaker 9 (01:44:33):
Yeah, well yeah, Stephen Miller, among among dozens of others
working at the White House. But like I said, this
is this is a bridge too far on the racism.
But he won't be the last individual we'll get. We'll
see text messages or you know, other videos, et cetera,
who who said racist things. I think this is eventually
they'll you know, we'll see sault with Jenny Vans the

(01:44:54):
same from the other text messages.

Speaker 15 (01:44:55):
Hey, you know this is it's not that bad. It
is locker room talk.

Speaker 9 (01:44:58):
So I just I think while they he's a sacrificial man,
will unfortunately see a bunch of other crazy fools come
through and get confirmed who would do to have done
made the same kind of comments.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Anybody shot by this one.

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
The January sixth terror is pardoned by Donald Trump, you know,
the twice at peach criminal convicted fellows in chief has
been arrested for threatening to kill Democratic leader Haking Jeffries.
Thirty four year old Christopher Monahan from Clinton, New York,
charged with a fellow in the account of.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
Making a terroristic threat.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
He's currently being held at the Dutchess County Justice and
Transition Center in Poughkeepsie, New York. Adjudsted as cash bill
at ten grand, as bond at thirty grand, or a
partially secured bond of eighty grand. He's back in Courtland Thursday.
Jeffrey released a statement regarding his arrest, saying, I'm grateful
to state and federal law enforcement for the swift and
decisive action to apprehend a dangerous individual who made an
incredible death threat against me with every intention to carry

(01:45:46):
it out. The person arrested, along with thousands of violent
fellows who storm the years capital during the January sixth attack,
were partnered by Donald Trump on the president's very first
day in office. Since the blanket Partner occurt earlier this year,
many of the criminals released have committed additional crimes throughout country. Unfortunately,
I brave men and women in law enforcement are being
forced to spend their time keeping our communities safe from
these violent individuals who should never have been pardoned. It

(01:46:08):
is the honor of my life to serve in Congress
during these challenging times. Threats of violence would not stop
us from showing up, standing up, and speaking up for
the American people. Tuesday, reporter asked how to speak of
Mike Johnson about the arrests of the January sixth terrorists.
While Johnson condemned the threat against Jeffries, he said violence
is more prevalent on the left and the right. Wow,
that's your answer, Mike, who have been.

Speaker 11 (01:46:35):
Rearrested on furious drugs?

Speaker 6 (01:46:37):
Did President Trump make a mistake by just offering language for.

Speaker 26 (01:46:44):
I don't know any of any of the details of
this at all. I don't know who's been alleged to
have been involved in this. I will say that anybody,
anybody who threatens political violence against elected officials or anyone else,
should be have the full weight and measure of the
Department of Justice on the head.

Speaker 15 (01:47:00):
I trust that that will happen.

Speaker 6 (01:47:01):
I hope it will.

Speaker 26 (01:47:03):
We are intellectually consistent about that, obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
I will tell you this.

Speaker 26 (01:47:07):
The violence on the left is far more prevalent than
the violence on the right. Don't make me go through
the list.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
You all know it.

Speaker 26 (01:47:13):
All of these assassinations are the assassinatent.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
Here we go, all right, that pivot.

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
That's a quick pivot there down Bay's like, okay, stay
on topic, and.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
That we're being intellectually consistent.

Speaker 1 (01:47:25):
There is nothing intellectual consistent now on me about these
fools when it comes to violence.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
They let Trump partners people and they said nothing.

Speaker 17 (01:47:35):
Well, and not only that, I mean the racist violence,
as you said. I mean we got to remember the
Unite the Right rally, where there were good people on
both sides. The guy who went into you know, the
pizza shop here in DC with a weapon prepared to
free children from the pedophile ring.

Speaker 3 (01:47:53):
I mean this.

Speaker 17 (01:47:55):
And it's not even about keeping score about who on
the right of the left. But they don't ever want
to just say it was wrong, this shouldn't have happened.
And you know, this is one of those things that
might happen when you release violent people into the public
en mass, right, we're talking about sixteen hundred people that
there was a blanket pardon given to, who were there

(01:48:16):
swinging flag poles, who'd hit police officers, who would bear
US spray law enforcement officials at the capitol that day,
who were threatening members of Congress on that day, who
threatened a sitting vice president on that day, who threatened
a Speaker of the House on that day, and we
said it would be We thought it would be a

(01:48:37):
good idea to release all those people in the public.

Speaker 3 (01:48:39):
And of course they don't want to.

Speaker 17 (01:48:41):
Have that conversation because if nothing else, there are sixteen
hundred more violent people on the street right now because
of this administration. But they would rather score political points
then just say this is wrong. It shouldn't have happened,
this is not okay, you're Becca. You know he said

(01:49:02):
there was a list and we know all the names. Cool,
they name the list. I want to hear the names
since we all know. I want to hear all the
names on the left, Like, I'll wait, like name the names.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
And it'll be a short wait.

Speaker 15 (01:49:16):
Larry Roland que real quick is a reminder A couple
of years ago.

Speaker 9 (01:49:23):
Then the FBI director testified that, you know, white domestic
terrorist violence was the number one issue in this country.

Speaker 15 (01:49:31):
Yep, we got so there's that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
Yep, white people, white people. All right, last story here, y'all.
Saturday and sits across the country. Do only seven million
people gathered the No King's rally to protest the Trump administration.
I saw this video in Alabama, which of course ranked
number one in chow poverty. One rally speaker really just
laid out these issues in Alabama and how they're impacted.

Speaker 24 (01:50:00):
You snapping with that's almost nine hundred thousand people. Alabama
has a higher poverty rate than the national average. A
third of Alabama counties of maternity care deserts, a third
of Alabama counties don't have a pediatrician. Over a million people,
and Alabama rely on Medicaid at least three hundred thousand people.
Maybe more could gain access to health care if the

(01:50:23):
state expanded Medicaid. That would also create and save jobs
and ward off the closures of rural hospitals and health
care services. But our state leaders continue to refuse to
and our national representatives vote to cut healthcare.

Speaker 15 (01:50:38):
One hundred and thirty thousand Alabamians could lose their health
care coverage.

Speaker 24 (01:50:42):
You can't call yourself pro life and refuse to expand Medicaid.
You can't call yourself pro life and cut health care.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
You can't call.

Speaker 24 (01:50:50):
Yourself pro life and be against feeding children and call
yourself pro life because you support forcing every baby to
be born, yet you are against healthy people who are alive.
You can't say your force small government and want the
government and all of the uteruses. You can't say your
force small government and support the federal government taking over cities.

(01:51:12):
You can't say you support states' rights and support other
states invading states. You can't say you support free speech
the want of government to punish.

Speaker 27 (01:51:21):
People you disagree with for suppressing theirs.

Speaker 18 (01:51:24):
You can't say you love freedom.

Speaker 27 (01:51:26):
If you support taking other people's freedoms away.

Speaker 15 (01:51:29):
Good people do not look at what is going on
and cheer it on.

Speaker 18 (01:51:33):
Good people do not cheer on the oppression of others.

Speaker 5 (01:51:36):
Good people do not stay silent as others are being oppressed.

Speaker 18 (01:51:39):
Good people know the.

Speaker 27 (01:51:40):
Difference between patriotism and nationalism. Good people don't see people
who live differently, love differently, or think differently as the enemy.

Speaker 6 (01:51:51):
Good people do not demand obedience and call it freedom.

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
I have consistently said that white Democrats have to take
people like him and travel across the state and look
broke white conservative people with jackedive health care and jacked
up education in the eye and say I'm talking to you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
What say you, Rebecca?

Speaker 21 (01:52:17):
You know what?

Speaker 5 (01:52:17):
I think it's good.

Speaker 19 (01:52:18):
The only thing that I would say about his about
his remarks and so you talked about health care, and
you talked about specifically in Alabama, he called it a
healthcare desert. I would just say, you know, let's not
call it a desert, because deserts occurred naturally within nature.
But it is healthcare apartheid because it's intentional, it is manufactured,

(01:52:42):
and it's because of broken policy.

Speaker 15 (01:52:45):
Larry, Yeah, So, I mean it was an important speech.

Speaker 9 (01:52:50):
He highlights some data points that a critical but roland
the state Alabama.

Speaker 15 (01:52:55):
Folks there, white folks there have voted.

Speaker 9 (01:52:58):
Consistently Republican and listen, the only way you gets addresses
that people like him and others that their crowd have
honest conversations with family members about how they're voting, or
things will continue to get worse. I think overall, we
know from research the really problem is this right identity,
is that as long as they know people feel secure

(01:53:19):
in whiteness is a racial hierarchy at the top of
the pyramid, then they're willing to suffer. And I think
until we address this that specific issue Roman that states
like Alabama will continue to struggle.

Speaker 17 (01:53:32):
Yeah, I mean, given the plethora of problems that Alabama has,
I think Rebecca is exactly right. The problems in Alabama
are created and they can be eradicated through different kinds
of political choices. But the problem to what Larry said
is that everybody has to understand that none of us
were made to live like this. You can't want it
for some Alabamas and not expected to happen to you.

(01:53:55):
You can't want to take away health care and food
benefits and clean water and all of those things and
expect it just to hurt black Alabamas or others. I
think this is a crime case that people are people
have made choices that left them all behind because they
would rather be in the muck than to see anybody

(01:54:18):
that is not white get ahead. And this is the
trick that white supremacy plays on white people. It makes
them think that they are going to be able to
live better and to surpass black folks if they just
ignore them but not realizing they are hurting their own selves.
I mean, Jonathan Metzil showed us, and every other bit

(01:54:39):
of data has showed us that white people are faring
poorly as well, but they just don't see what this
man is seeing right now. So I agree that more
efforts have to be made to sort of undermine the
white supremacist logic at work here.

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
Yep, folks said, is it for us? Let me thank
all three of y'all for being here. No, I'm me
Larry and Rebecca. Thank you so very much, folks. We're
gonna continue to do what we do, putting the pressure on.

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