Day 6 Shutdown Standoff, Jeffries Challenges Johnson, Judge Backs Trump Guard Order, GA Case Risk

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Speaker 5 (04:21):
Today's Monday, October six, twenty twenty five, coming up by
roland Mark don Filcher, streaming live on the Blackstar Network.
We are on day six of the government shutdown and
the Senate will hold its vote on the spending bill
aimed at reopening the government. House Democratic Leader ha King
Jeffries challenging Speaker Mike Johnson to a prime time debate,
but we'll tell you how Johnson responded. A federal judge

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has decided not to block Trump's order to deploy National
Guard troops the state, rejecting a lawsuit from the State
of Illinois to see the Chicago against this order the
Trump Georgia Electric Interference case. If a new prosecutor is
not appointed soon, the judge has indicated that he he
would dismiss the case entirely. The president of George's NAACP
would join us to discuss laws in New Orleans head

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Speaker 5 (06:05):
Though he's pulling, Folks, the Senate, this is a live
look at the United States Senate where they will be
holding their fifth vote on a funding bill to keep

(06:28):
the government open. Actually in the government's shutdown, Senate Monori
leader Chuck Schumer says the only way out of this
shutdown is through a meeting between Republican and Democratic congressional
leaders and the twice impeached, criminally convicted fellow in chief
Donald Trump. Earlier today, Democratic House Leader Kim Jeffrey sent
a letter to the House Speaker Mike Johnson challenging him

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to a primetime debate over the shutdown. Dear Johnson, the Speaker, Johnson,
I'd write to challenge you to debate the floor of
the House Representatives any day this week in prime time
broadcast live to the American people. Democrats have been clear
and consistent in our position. The country needs immediate bipartisan
negotiations between the White House and congressional leadership in order

(07:11):
to reach an enlighten spending agreement that reopens the government,
improves the lives of hard working American taxpayers, and addresses
the Republican health care crisis. Unfortunately, Donald Trump and your
party decide to shut down the government because the GOP
refuses to provide health care to every day Americans. Further,

(07:31):
you have kept House Republicans on vacation instead of working
with Democrats to reopen the government. Republicans have set in
motion a health care crisis that has ended Medicaid as
we know it and ripped coverage away from millions of
working class Americans throughout the country, including in your homestate. Louisiana. Hospitals,
nursing homes, and community based health centers are closing. Equally troublesome,

(07:54):
if the Affordable Care Act tax credits are allowed to expire,
millions more will lose their health care coverage. The cost
of premiums, co pays, indeductibles will skyrocket in an environment
where Republican policies continue to make life too expensive. Given
the urgency of the moment and the Republican refusal to
negotiate a bipartisan agreement, a debate on the House floor

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will provide the American people with a transparency they deserve.
It will also give you an opportunity to explain your
my weight or the highway approach to shutting the government
down when Democratic votes are needed to resolve the impasse
that exists. Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.
I look forward to our debate. Well, Johnson did respond

(08:37):
and to a reporter who asked him if he would
take Jeffries up on this challenge.

Speaker 13 (08:44):
When the poll says that that about thirteen percent of
the people approve of your messaging, then you make desperate
pleas for attention. And that's what Hakim Jeffers has done.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Look, my friend.

Speaker 13 (08:55):
Hakim had his shot. We debated all this on the
House floor, as you know before, where we passed our bill.
He spoke for seven or eight minutes. He had all
of his colleagues lined up. They gave it their best shot,
and they argued, and they stomped their feet and screamed
at us and all that, and still we passed the
bill and buy partisan fashion and send it over to
the Senate. The House has done its job. I'm not

(09:16):
going to let Hakeem try to pretend for these theatrics.
I mean, this is a Chuck Schumer decision. The ball
is in the Senate's court. Now the House has done this.
We don't need to waste time on that nonsense. Those
debates have been had. Colleagues A friend, I mean, Hakim
is a friend and a colleague. I respect him, but
we all know what he's trying to do there.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Well, folks, guess what CBS you. They've got a new
poll that speaks to how it is being handled. So
thirty two percent approve of Trump, fifty two percent disapprove,
sixteen percent not sure. Congression Republicans twenty eight approved, disapprove
fifty two percent not sure twenty percent. Congression Democrats twenty
seven percent approved, forty nine percent disapproved, not twenty four percent.

(10:01):
So the disapproved category actually Democrats are lord of the Republicans,
but also in the approved category, they're also lord they've
hired not sure. Remarch now concerned about the government ecconomy
the effect on the shutdown, Forty nine percent say they
are very concerned, thirty one percent say somewhat concern, twenty
percent not concerned. Are their positions worth a government shut down?

(10:25):
Democratic positions worth it? Twenty eight Republican positions twenty three
not worth it? Democrat forty Republicans, forty five not sure,
thirty two thirty two. So those are not great numbers,
but they also speak to where people are. By pat
I'm doctor only congo to being a senior profit soor Electors,
School of Your National Service, Becker University, author of Lies

(10:46):
about Black People, How to Combat Racist DC is the
Bora G. Deia Consultant and Employment Specials out of DC.
Dmbe Carter Author and Associate Professor, School of Public Policy,
University of Maryland, out of DC as well. Neil, I
may want to start with you that there's a lot
of polling here, but the reality is Republicans have been
trying desperately to say Democrats own this, but the public

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polling shows that people are blaming Republicans for this shutdown.
Now we're seeing that Trump is signaling he will sit
down with Democrats to discuss this. They know they're being
hurt by this.

Speaker 14 (11:21):
Oh absolutely, And I think the things that they're going after,
like the Affordable Care Act, are quite popular, more popular
than any of them are, quite frankly in their job.
So look, I think this is going to be one
of those cases where we won't quite know where the
public is going to go on this. We're in the
second week. But if this is like twenty eighteen where
you have a thirty five days shutdown, I think we

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will see some very different numbers. I think right now
people haven't quite felt the pinch, but we know that
recipients of snapping wick are going to fill that pinch
very soon. The runway is not very long here for
many people in this country to start feeling the hurt
of this. I mean not to mention federal workers right,
many of whom are furloughed and not being paid at

(12:06):
this moment. So I think there's a very uh, there's
very little time for both groups to come to the table.
But I think the Republicans actually have more to lose
right now by allowing this to continue. And I think
people are not as interested in these stories about you know,
immigrants taking or using federals benefits that they don't actually

(12:28):
have access to, and want to know what is the
government going to do for me now that you know
these non essential services are shut down, these federal employees
are home.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
This right here on the congo is more that CBSU
got poll blame the most for government shut down Trump
Republicans in Congress thirty nine percent, Democrats in Congress thirty percent,
both equally thirty one percent. Again, this is showing who
is getting the blame for this.

Speaker 15 (12:57):
Yeah, and I think that these numbers are going to
go up.

Speaker 16 (12:59):
I think that's why Trump is saying that he's willing
to meet, because the fact of the matter is, we're
coming up on this Friday. It's going to be the
first time checks are supposed to go out, and man
may not. Military families are like the next week of
either fifteenth or so, are supposed to be looking at
checks they may not get. You saw Trump speaking well
to the Navy this weekend, talking about don't worry about it,
don't worry about I'm going to pay you.

Speaker 15 (13:19):
You also have the situation with the farmers.

Speaker 16 (13:21):
How's he going to give him a bail out where
there's no Department of Agriculture that's open to be able
to issue checks. And so Mike Johnson is clearly making
the rounds more than we've ever seen because they're really
trying to control the narrative. But even some Democrats have
gone on some of these Fox faces and have broken
down the hypocrisy of all of this. And so Mike
Johnson can go out to his restaurant and chill and
Trump can go play as golf.

Speaker 15 (13:42):
But the American people are not stupid.

Speaker 16 (13:44):
Furthermore, the Republicans are not in Washington, DC, and Democrats
need to do a better job in terms of the
imaging and messaging of just walking by these congress folks
doors and showing that they're actually not there.

Speaker 15 (13:55):
How are you going to negotiate when people aren't even
showing up?

Speaker 16 (13:58):
I go als will give credit to the Democrats from
AOC and Bernie to what how King drafties have been doing.
They've been consistent, they've been on message, they kept the
messages messaging simple, and they deserve a lot of props
for that as well. And I'm hoping that they continue
to hold out because the majority of Americans have their
back as of war.

Speaker 8 (14:18):
Yeah, I definitely agree with all of that.

Speaker 14 (14:20):
I think that the thinking about disabled individuals and how
it's going to really impact the American people at home.
People are really concerned about losing benefits and about you know,
not being able to have Disabled individuals are depending on
the Social Security income and elderly are depending on that
Social Security income.

Speaker 8 (14:40):
So to have this shut down continuing.

Speaker 14 (14:42):
And like he said, no one is really negotiating, You're
not even here to negotiate, it creates a really big
problem for the disabled community that already are having you know,
limited supports and don't have the accommodations and things they need.
And for those individuals that trying to take care of
their children, take care of their families and still you know,

(15:03):
go to work and all of these things.

Speaker 8 (15:05):
I just think that it's.

Speaker 14 (15:07):
Really important that we come to some kind of conclusion
and we really think about what's more important.

Speaker 8 (15:12):
Is it going to be not really working together or
is the long term.

Speaker 14 (15:18):
Impacts of what that big, beautiful bill is gonna do
to those services more important?

Speaker 5 (15:25):
Absolutely? All right, folks, So we're gonna keep watching to
see what happens. We're watching the centate, but we'll tell
you what happens there as well. Gotta go to break.
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Spread the word, folks. A couple of different federal judges
have ruled regarding troops going to different states. First, and foremost,
a federal judge has ruled that Donald Trump cannot send
federal troops from California to Portland, Oregon. Of course, California

(17:53):
going to Gavenuwsom also said he will sue the Trump
administration after they federalize three hundred California National guardsops. Not
his was crazy, y'all Trump Trump, They're trying to claim that,
Oh my god, Portland, Oregon is just out of control,
it's crazy. But here's the problem that that's not what

(18:17):
the people in Portland are saying. So he's sitting here
trying to be claiming that, well, you know, Portland is
just just just crazy. It's it's it's just unbelievable, it's
just out of control. Well the police chief is like, no,
it's not. And in fact, I'm trying to find this

(18:39):
was a sound bite last week where the police chief
uh addressed it and this was actually this is this
is one of the bites right here, y'all gonna trip out.
The chief said, it's one block. What are y'all talking about?
All listen to this?

Speaker 19 (18:57):
Is there a myth or a misconception since this news
broke that you're like, oh, I just wish people understood this.

Speaker 20 (19:04):
Yeah, I mean the fact of the matter is, and
it's been highlighted so many times so well, but I
just want to emphasize this is one city block. City
of Portland's about one hundred and forty five square miles.
This is one city block and even the events that
are happening down there do not rise to the level
of attention that they are receiving. We are seeing this
true for our society and whole I'm not going to

(19:26):
try to editorialize too much, but these you know, thirty second,
twenty second, fifteen second clips, clips that are brought in
from months ago or maybe even years ago. We've seen
Portland portrayed through the events of the lens of twenty
and twenty one, and what's actually happening in the response
that we're seeing both from Portlanders and from the Portland
Police Bureau is not in line with that national narrative

(19:49):
and it is frustrating, but we're going to continue.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
I mean, that's the police chief, y'all. So who should
you believe as Trump lion, as Stephen Miller? Who should
believe now that was a battle back and forth today
between C and NS Kitlyn Collins and the chief Liar
in chief, that is Carolyn Levitt, Trump's spokesperson. So listen

(20:13):
to this back and forth.

Speaker 21 (20:15):
Federal judge over the weekend that the President had appointed
to the bench in his first term in office, basically
argued that he could not deploy other States National Guards
to Portland. Basically said that it was untethered his argument
to what was actually happening on the ground, which local
officials in Portland have said that the National Guard is
needed there.

Speaker 11 (20:35):
With all due respect to that judge, I think her
opinion is untethered in.

Speaker 8 (20:39):
Reality and in the law.

Speaker 11 (20:40):
The President is using his authority as commander in chief
US Code twelve four six, which clearly states that the
president has the right to call up the National Guard
in cases where he deems it's appropriate. And if you
look at what has happened in Portland, Oregon for more
than one hundred nights, I was talking to our law
enforcement team about it this morning.

Speaker 8 (21:00):
More than one hundred days, night after.

Speaker 11 (21:02):
Night after night, the ice facility has been really under
siege by these anarchists outside. They have been disrespecting law enforcement,
they've been inciting violence. We saw again a guillotine rolled
out in front of this federal building, and so the
president wants to ensure that our federal buildings and our
assets are protected, and that's exactly what he's trying to do.

(21:24):
And ultimately, in the case in Los Angeles, that judge
ruled in the Ninth Circuit that that panel of judges
ruled that those troops could remain and that the President
was well within his authority to do so. We are
appealing that decision, as you know, we expect a hearing
on it pretty quickly, and we're very confident in the
president's legal authority to do this, and we're very confident
we will win on the merits of the law.

Speaker 21 (21:44):
Have no local officials that you can point to that
have said we need the National Guard, Because I spoke
to the police chief of Portland last week, he said
that the President's claims just don't match up with what's
happening on the ground.

Speaker 11 (21:53):
I would encourage you, as a reporter to go on
the ground and to take a look at for yourself,
because there's been many members of the press press in
this room, but independent journalists, some of whom will be
inviting to the White House very soon to share their
stories because they have been in the middle of these
riots and they have witnessed the anarchy that is taking
place night after night.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
It's on video.

Speaker 22 (22:12):
You should play it on your show.

Speaker 11 (22:13):
You have a great opportunity in primetime on CNN to
show your audience, but you're probably talking to partisan Democrat
officials who are opposed to everything this president does. You
should also ask the people who live in Portland. We've
actually heard from many members of the community who have
said that this is complete civil disobedience.

Speaker 8 (22:33):
It's a mess.

Speaker 11 (22:34):
It's been loud, it's been troubling for neighbors in the
community who are just trying to live peacefully. And these
people are not there to peacefully protest. They are there
to cause mayhem and have it okay.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
So that's the bistre peddling. Well, guess what. Nicholas Christolph,
who is with the with the New York Times, actually
went to Oregon posted a video. I thought it was
pretty hilarious this video that he posted. Our y'ad checked
this out.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
Be careful, Portland is on fire, our president says. So
you can hear the artillery booming, the rival gangs fighting
the clouds of cure gas all around us. Be careful,
but actually this isn't a war zone whatever Trump says.

Speaker 15 (23:35):
It is perfectly peaceful.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
So during this ceasfire, I'm going to attend to Organistauric
Snidey dinner.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
Now, of course that's organ We see what is happening
in Chicago totally different. We have seen vicious, vicious efforts
by ice there repelling down from blackout helicopters against this
one particular building. I mean zip ties of of grown
people to have have dressed folks children as well, I

(24:16):
mean two year old child really zip tiede. I mean
it makes no sense whatsoever, uh litter only. Governor Jimmy
Pritsker addressed this issue as well. This is what he
had to say.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
To challenging UN.

Speaker 7 (24:35):
Plans.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
There is no invasion here, there is no insurrection here.
Local and law enforcements are on the job of managing
what they need.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Right. So that that was the governor.

Speaker 23 (24:53):
UH.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
Now Mayor Brendan Johnson, Chicago Mayor addressed this issue as
well because what we saw take place in this one
particular building were they claimed they were going after Venezuelan
gang members, but it was black. Folks were being pulled
out who were standing there, detained, arrested at three o'clock
in the morning, half clothed children as well.

Speaker 24 (25:13):
This is the Mayor due to the community based organizations
that are standing together in this critical moment in our
nation's history. We are here today to talk about the
events that have transpired over the past week. Past week
revealed the true face of the administration's immigration.

Speaker 7 (25:30):
Enforcement in our city, and the entire world was able
to witness that.

Speaker 24 (25:36):
On Tuesday, federal immigration agents rated and apartment building in
the South Shore community in the middle of the night.

Speaker 7 (25:44):
This building was managed by a slum lord that people
have all been clear about it. The city actually sued
the owner in.

Speaker 24 (25:54):
February over fifteen building code violations. Residents were dealing with
deplorable conditions already, this was before ice trampled, But when
they came in the middle of the night, they terrorized
the families of living. There were children who were without clothing.

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They were zip tied, taken outside. At three o'clock in
the morning, A senior resident, an American citizen with no warrants,
was taken outside and handcuffed for three hours. Doors were
blown off their hinges. Walls were broken through. Immigration agents

(26:41):
coming from black Hawk helicopters to set up snipers on
nearby buildings.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
This is America.

Speaker 24 (26:53):
One resident described the situation playing I quota. They had
immigrants in one van and black people and another man.
This raid wasn't about public safety. It was about immigrant
and it's certainly not about immigration. This was about a
shoal of authoritarianism, a forceful of display of tyranny. They

(27:19):
sent a clear message to all Chicagos. They said we
do not respect your rights. We can do anything we want,
and we will film it and put it on social media.
The very next day, ice agents chase people outside of
a homeless shelter on the South Side and then.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
Caused a car accident on the west side.

Speaker 24 (27:41):
Immigration agents put a young black man in a choke
hold on the side of the street heast Garfield Parker witnesses,
one of which you will hear from this morning bravely
film the interaction, eventually leading to this person's release. On Friday,
agents disperse tear gas in the middle of a busy

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city street. Chicagoans were hit with chemical agents while walking
their children home from school.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
A couple ran from tear gas with a two year
old child in their care.

Speaker 24 (28:14):
Agents went into the Humble Park Health Center and detained
a sitting elected official, alder jesse fent this on the
twenty sixth ward because she simply requested to see a warrant.
On Saturday, they escalated even further by shooting a US citizen.
They claimed it was defensive fire, but frankly, we cannot trust.

Speaker 7 (28:37):
Anything that comes out of the administration.

Speaker 24 (28:39):
It was only a few short weeks ago that they
claimed officers were severely injured in the killing of mister.

Speaker 7 (28:45):
Veegos Gonzales in Franklin Park. A sometimes investigation found.

Speaker 24 (28:49):
That the agent said on a body camera footage that
it was in fact nothing major. We have a rogue,
reckless group of heavily armed, massed individuals growing throughout.

Speaker 7 (29:01):
Our city that are not accountable to the people of Chicago.
Their actions put all Chicagoans at risk.

Speaker 24 (29:08):
When protesters confronted federal immigration agents in Brighton.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
Park on Saturday, they were met with pepper balls and
more repression.

Speaker 24 (29:18):
CPD responded to attempt to de escalate the situation and
ice tear gas are police officers, Let me be clear.
Tear Gassing women and men who serve as Chicago Police
Department officers.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
It's not how we make our city safer.

Speaker 24 (29:41):
I'm calling for a full investigation into this incident and
into all of the brutality that we have seen over
the past week. They are taking police resources that should
be in our neighborhoods serving Chicagoans and diverting them to
do with the chaos that they are causing. We need
Ice out of our city so that we can continue

(30:03):
to focus on the strategies that have been working to
drive by the crime down.

Speaker 7 (30:08):
These accents tell us simple truth.

Speaker 24 (30:11):
If we allow this administration to take away due process
for anyone, we will allow them to take away due
process for everything.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
They told us that this was about the worst of
the worst.

Speaker 24 (30:24):
In reality, they are going after anyone who objects to
families being ripped apart and community members being disappeared.

Speaker 7 (30:32):
Ice lies, and people die. We cannot allow this to continue.

Speaker 24 (30:38):
We must say action more drastic than what we have
taken before, because what we are seeing is a more radical.

Speaker 7 (30:45):
Attempt to undermine our democracy.

Speaker 24 (30:48):
Today, we are signed an executive order aimed at raining
in as out of control administration. If order establishes ICE
free zones means that city property and unwilling private businesses
will no longer serve as staging grounds for these raids.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
Folks, it has been absolutely crazy, and now we have
this here. CBS did a story talking about how these
ICE ages are tying up local police by calling nine
one one for bogus calls. Check this out.

Speaker 19 (31:32):
You are watching as Broadview police respond to a nine
call claiming someone was tampering with a gate at the
ICE detention facility there body.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
Camera footage obtained.

Speaker 19 (31:43):
By the CBS New Chicago investigators shows several broad View
police officers respond to an alleged homeland security threat. The
gate in question is where ICE takes detained immigrants for processing.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
What's up, guys, Not much? All right, good?

Speaker 11 (31:59):
We got a call of subjects trying to climb over
the fence or something not since we've been here.

Speaker 19 (32:03):
But when police arrive, all they find is two people
and a camera, our CBS photographer filming the exterior of
the building with a CBS security guard by his side.

Speaker 8 (32:13):
And you guys, didn't tamper with any of these.

Speaker 25 (32:15):
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 19 (32:17):
Nine one call claiming someone was tampering with the gate
came from an ICE agent, According to this incident report,
an ICE agent called police for help.

Speaker 7 (32:26):
But he can't go and try to force his way
into that door.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Okay, so the guy, do you believe that that was
a false call?

Speaker 19 (32:33):
I do again, it was just our CBS photographer filming
the exterior of the building in your mind, bogus.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
Yes, it's it's disturbing, it's it's ridiculous.

Speaker 22 (32:46):
Broad you.

Speaker 19 (32:46):
Police Chief Thomas mill says this is just one of
several questionable nine to one one calls his police department
has received from ICE at this facility. Recently, this same
detention center has become the site of at least three
other incidents in involving federal agents who are accused of
hitting people with cars, shooting projectiles, and using chemical agents

(33:07):
on journalists, including a CBS reporter.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Craise is that now, I don't know if y'all saw
this here falk my pant. I want to show you
others here. So, uh, you know, Ice Barbie. Ice Barbie
was in a broad View, okay, and she actually tried
to go to a uh city facility, uh because she
wanted to use restroom and they were like now we're good,

(33:36):
uh and so uh you know, so she was whining,
complaining on on the right wing show Bennie Johnson. You
know the dude who got all that money from Russia.
Uh so, y'all check this out.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
We canceled, all right.

Speaker 17 (33:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 22 (33:55):
Interesting.

Speaker 26 (33:58):
That's why Governor Pritsker says this cooperating and keeping people safe.

Speaker 7 (34:09):
So why wouldn't they let you in?

Speaker 15 (34:10):
What's been going on here? What's been going on here?
Six Charry.

Speaker 26 (34:13):
We were coming to go out and do some operations
to pick up some guys with criminal convictions on them,
and the city police wouldn't.

Speaker 8 (34:21):
Even let us use a restaurant.

Speaker 22 (34:23):
And you were just blocked by us by a worker here.

Speaker 8 (34:26):
We're at the beautiful building here broadwork, which would not
allow us to go in and to use restaurant at
the police station. So as much as these local leaders.

Speaker 14 (34:34):
And governors talk about cooperating.

Speaker 26 (34:36):
And having the backs of our law enforce monsters, this
is what we answered put up with every single day.
And all we're doing is getting criminals, is terrorists and
hotels and gang members office streets to make families safer here.

Speaker 15 (34:46):
It's ridiculous, I mean, is impeting law enforcement. I mean,
this is a real problem.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
Us is a real problem.

Speaker 26 (34:52):
I'm so proud of our officers that deal with us
every single day. They know that America's got their backs.
What they face here every day is real crossing.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
Fall of the congo. She lying Yoya is going to
the bathroom, which is not block its doing work. But
here's what she wants to deny the police. Eave of
broad Views say, he has never been spoken to the
way he was by these ice agents. They have disrespected
local police, and then they want them to reciprocate.

Speaker 15 (35:24):
Oh hell no, Oh absolutely helldo.

Speaker 16 (35:28):
And I remember also watching your show last week and
the same officer, you know, Chief Mills, was talking about
his officers have been you know, have the effects of
the tear gas.

Speaker 15 (35:37):
And so on and so forth.

Speaker 16 (35:38):
How long do they think they can keep disrespecting local
law enforcement? I know Pritz Skill was asked today if
he's going to get the state troopers involved.

Speaker 15 (35:45):
But it's like, these are.

Speaker 16 (35:46):
Guys who got guns and got badges and got authority
as well, and ultimately you're invading their city. And everybody's
talking about, oh, people should be working with Trump, Mike Johnson,
yield Man, just let Trump in and let them do
their thing.

Speaker 15 (35:58):
They have no desire to work with them.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
And this is where Mayor.

Speaker 16 (36:01):
Johnson has made this clear from the beginning. Trump does
not want to work with them. They want to come
in there and dominate and control. They had another and
then if you look at all of the videos and
posters that they're putting up on the ICE website when
they had one man getting arrested, and they said, you know,
this is what's going to happen to Antifa. More coming Antifa,
which is also a fake organization in terms of no
real leadership or anything like that. They're using that also

(36:23):
as a pretext to go into these cities. Everything Mayor
Johnson said was absolutely true. And I really don't know
how much these law enforcement folks the local people on
the ground, because, to be honest, Roland, I really feel
like many of these so called ICE agents, I just
feel like these guys are the insurrections that will put
out and are just running around lawless and reckless. And
at some point, when these guys start getting arrested or

(36:44):
getting unmasked by other people and people start tracking them down,
maybe they'll start to subside.

Speaker 15 (36:49):
But right now they are running loose.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
Ice.

Speaker 16 (36:51):
Barbie's running loose and what they're on the roof for
the snipers and everything. Nah, this can't continue and it's
just going to be a matter of time before I
think local law enforcements and that's had enough as well
with these individuals.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
The more I agree, I listen, we don't know who
these people are. We don't know if they're oath keepers.
We don't know if they're proud boys. We don't know
if they are vigilantes. We do don't know any of this.

Speaker 14 (37:14):
Definitely, we are watching people that already don't have trust
in law enforcement. You are sending you are against law enforcement,
against the citizens of these places. You're looking at what's
going on in Chicago, You're looking at how the police
are being treated, and they're telling you their governments, the
local governments.

Speaker 8 (37:34):
We have too much big government in our local communities.
And with ICE just doing.

Speaker 14 (37:39):
Whatever they want to do, they're creating truma in these communities.

Speaker 8 (37:44):
These people are gonna have to deal with these traumas
and there's no supports.

Speaker 14 (37:48):
They're not going to have any supports After ICE leaves
and we try to get back to some state of normal,
But how can we even get back to a place
of some level of normalness when who's.

Speaker 8 (37:59):
Gonna trust the police at that point, you know.

Speaker 14 (38:02):
So it's really unfortunate that people that are putting their
life on the lines for our communities are having the
same problems that the people in the communities are having,
and it's creating trauma for everybody, and there are no
supports to be able to heal that trauma.

Speaker 8 (38:17):
For these communities.

Speaker 14 (38:18):
So it's just so it just reminds you of everything
that has happened in some of our apartizes in Germany
and Hitler and all of these historic events, and how
do we move forward from this? I think it's just
going to be very difficult for us to even heal
this trauma.

Speaker 8 (38:35):
That they are causing.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
They're acting like this who they are and THEOMBI, and
so I'm with them. I wouldn't give them any cooperation either.

Speaker 14 (38:44):
And I think this is where we're starting to go.
I mean, I think you know they say politics create
strange bedfellows. I mean, this is the same government that
released January sixth rioters who attack police officers and who
attacked federal law enforcement in federal buildings, And this is
the same person who is now telling local law enforcement

(39:07):
that they should cooperate when most of the time local
law enforcement don't know who these people are, They've not
had any communication, and these people are.

Speaker 8 (39:16):
Endangering their lives.

Speaker 14 (39:17):
I mean, I think this whole situation of just sort
of escalation is making life more difficult in some of
the ways that both my co panels has talked about.
But when we think about the job of law enforcement,
which is already difficult, you're talking about a group that
does not have a lot of trust in our variousame communities,
and now they're in a position where they are being demeaned,

(39:40):
where they are being treated poorly, they are being you know,
having their professionalism attacked publicly and on a national stage.
I mean, I think you will see local law enforcement
divest and even when you think about these detainers that
ICE needs local law enforcement to enforce, meaning that local

(40:02):
law enforcement may have to hold some of these people
in their facilities, they are not compensated for that. They
are going to risk, you know, you know, having their
local facilities at capacity. All of this on behalf of
the federal government, and you expect a friendly assist I
don't think that's going to be forthcoming. And this government

(40:23):
somehow just does not seem to get that message. They
keep making enemies out of everyone, and in a minute,
you're going to create a lot of friends out of
people who have very different perspective on lots of things,
but are unified in their idea and their sense and
their rightful belief that this government is dangerous and out

(40:44):
of control.

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Speaker 5 (42:13):
Could we be seeing the end of the Georgia voter
fraud case. The judge overseeing the Georgia election interference case
against it twice in Peach criminally convicted fellow in the
chieftain on the contruct as well as others, says he
will dismiss the case in less than fourteen days if
a new prosecutor has not been appointed to take it
over Fullteon County Superior Judge Scott McAfee to the deadline

(42:35):
in a one paragraph order on Friday, if the responsibility
of the Prosecuting Attorney's Council of Georgia to appoint a
new prosecutor for the case following the disqualification of Fulton
County DA Fannie Willis from continue the prosecution. George's naacpcate
President Jerald Grigg. Jorge's right now, Now, Gerald, here's the deal. Okay,
who is this council? Were they made up of? Are

(42:56):
the Republicans? Are the Democrats? And what the hell's take
them so long?

Speaker 3 (43:01):
So they're appointed by the governor, and so the governor
makes a determination of who would sit on the Prosecuting
Council of Georgia. And they've made the determination that they
would choose who the next appointed prosecutor will be on
this case. So typically they picked the prosecutors from the
judicial circuits around the state, and disorder by Judge Scott
McAfee has put a time limit on the amount of
time they have to make that appointment, and so we

(43:24):
are very concerned. Of course, this case is dragged on
for years. We want to make sure that it's fairly tried,
and so we're calling on the Prosecuting Council of Georgia
to appoint a duly elected district attorney from the Metro
Atlanta area to oversee this case and to complete the
case based on the will of the people.

Speaker 5 (43:42):
So how long ago was it that the Supreme Court
rule that Fanie Willis was disqualified from the case?

Speaker 22 (43:51):
Last month about two.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
And a half weeks ago Supreme Court rule that she
was disqualified, and so the judge then at that point
last week issued an order given fourteen days for the
file to be turned over and a new prosecutor to
be appointed. And subsequently, Peach Scandalacus, who's the head of
the Prosecuting Council of Georgia, filed a filing on Monday
today stating that he has not received the file from

(44:15):
the Fulham County District Attorney's officer and asked for another
ninety days to get up the speed and to appoint
it to a duly elected prosecutor in the state of Georgia.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
So okay, and does this council meet do that? I mean, like,
what the hell is taken so long? He would think
they would already already had somebody's name in the back pocket,
knowing full well was likely she was going to get
his qualified. Well, that would be my hope.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
And typically they do have conflict council conflict district attorneys
that are willing to take this case. But this is
a very, very big case, and so I would have
hoped they would have been prepared for this ruling one
way or the other, but it appears that they were
not ready to appoint someone and the judge is trying
to move this case down the field. So what we

(44:58):
want people to understand is if that's the case is
in fact dismissed in the state of Georgia, you still
have six months from the date of the dismissal to
reactivate the prosecution. But we are concerned that the will
of Fulton County residents because again the indictment was returned
by Fulton County citizens who voted for an indictment, and

(45:18):
the defense is entitled to due process and a fair
opportunity for the case.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
To be heard by citizens on a trial jury.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
So all we're asking for is the process to play
its way out and not for a legal technicality to
end this case.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
Absolutely crazy, what a folks they're saying, and what kind
of pressure to be put on this council. I mean
they could just sit.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
On this well.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
I think people are just now recognizing what happened in
the State of Georgia, just finding out about the ruling,
and so we are encouraging people to contact the Prosecuting
Council of Georgia at their officer through email to make
sure that they understand the importance of this case and
the need for the public to understand and to have
a trial and for the defenders to have due process,

(46:04):
but ultimately to get to the bottom of what happened
in the election case here in Georgia.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
All right, then, j Gerald Griggs was stally appreciative.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Man, Thanks a lot, appreciate you folks.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
This is one of the things that again that we
really have to focus on pay attention to. And you know,
I've said it over and over again, and you know
I got people Zubora who got mad at me. But
I'm sorry, finally we'll screw this up. Anybody would come
a sense if she if she did not put her
boyfriend on this case, we're not having this conversation.

Speaker 8 (46:41):
She definitely screwed up.

Speaker 14 (46:43):
I mean, as a black woman, she know that the
level of accountability for her is way higher. So you
can be a professional woman and not think of how
your decisions will impact other things.

Speaker 8 (46:57):
This situation is.

Speaker 14 (46:58):
Causing a lot of problems, and her decision making makes
you question her ability to do her job. But at
the end of the day, it's like, Okay, you've made
all of these bad decisions, how are we going to
move forward? And you're put in Fullton County in a
really bad position. She definitely has to make some wiser
choices and make sure that she is aware of how

(47:20):
all of these things have been impacted over the last
couple of years.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
It would be a shame them if this case just
went away. Boy mine is they got the goods on them.
I mean a number of these people have already pleaded guilty.

Speaker 14 (47:35):
Yeah, but I think you know, this has been complicated
by so many other things, right, I think the bar
is exactly right. I mean the personal details, right, the
things that look inappropriate, that look corrupt, kind of overshadow
the other corruption. The real things that were on the
table in this case. And unfortunately we can't have that

(47:56):
discussion because it's been overshadowed by Fannie Willis. And you know,
I think it's it's unfortunate on so many dimensions. I
think it's unfortunate for the people of Georgia, it's unfortunate
for our democracy.

Speaker 7 (48:07):
But it is also.

Speaker 14 (48:08):
Unfortunate because you do have this person here who by
all metrics right is sort of good at her job,
but has been not so good and separating the personal
from the professional. And you know, now we can't have
the most important conversation we need to have because we're

(48:28):
talking about ethical lapses and professional miscalculation and misjudgment here.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
Yeah, I'm a congo And it's just again, this case
could have actually gone a trial had not been sidetracked
by all of this stuff.

Speaker 16 (48:49):
Yeah, we're just another example of where Trump is not
going to see the inside of a courtroom for trying
to overturn the election, you know, all of the other
cases or other issues, you know, And and here we
are right now, and I disagree with our guests. I'm
from NFACP that you know, this isn't working the way
its supposed to. I think it's working exactly out supposed to.
I think they want to slow walk this and they

(49:11):
want they wanted to go away. I think this is
their plan all along, and this is another botched opportunity
to get this man. I mean, so many dominoes have
to fall in place for Trump to be able to
get elected again. We have this situation, you know, Merrick
Garland waiting like over a year and a half or
hoever long, you know, slow walking these things. But yet
here we are with Trump. You gotta dot every I

(49:31):
and cross every T, and that was not done in
this case. And now they are going to make this
case go away. And so this man, so many people
are aiding him in this process to become an authoritarian,
and this is just another step in that process.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
I'm sitting here looking as y'all some of this stuff,
and I gotta talk about these tears, and if I
hear another crime as Republican over these tears, and and
they're just, oh my god, what are we going to do?

Speaker 22 (50:03):
This year?

Speaker 5 (50:04):
Was a cbspiece of one of these guys in Iowa,
and see, and this is what I really wish these
Meatia people wuld do. Stop interviewing these farmers and not
ask them who they voted for, basically asking them, hey,
who did you vote for in the election? All right,
So here's one of these farmers complaining about TARIS and

(50:28):
how they're losing their money.

Speaker 23 (50:31):
This is the season that farmer rob Ewalt usually lives
for harvesting nearly two thousand acres of corn and soy.

Speaker 22 (50:40):
I don't believe there'll be a prophet this year. I
think we will go backwards.

Speaker 23 (50:47):
E Walt learned the family business from his parents, who
struggled but survived the nineteen eighties farm crisis.

Speaker 8 (50:54):
He sees parallels as.

Speaker 22 (50:55):
A kid, I'd go to bed and you'd hear the
whisperings of my parents talking about finances. We didn't know
what was going on, But now I know what they
were talking about. You want to split open the pod.
The pod should crack open.

Speaker 23 (51:09):
Farmers may be forced to sell their crops at steep
losses now that China, once the largest buyer of US
soy exports, is retaliating against US tariffs.

Speaker 22 (51:19):
So you've done all this.

Speaker 23 (51:19):
Work and you have more work to do and you're
losing money.

Speaker 22 (51:26):
Yeah, it's a great occupation, isn't it.

Speaker 23 (51:29):
It could mean ruin for some farmers. As of June,
fifty five percent more filed for bankruptcy compared to the
previous year to year period.

Speaker 22 (51:37):
It's an endless cycle. Is that we're caught in right now?
And this is all I know. Can't do a name better.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
But who did you vote for? See? This is what
is bugging me. Whoa you know?

Speaker 1 (52:00):
China.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
China not buying our soybeans. China doesn't have to. I
love this idea that they think that China should be
mandated to buy American soybeans. Trump ship it all over China.
Trump sat there and started this trade war. And that's

(52:25):
all we keep seeing. All we keep hearing of these farmers.
Make good, make good?

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Oh make good?

Speaker 5 (52:31):
I mean what we gonna do? I mean we're losing
money and has caused his money. And as hold up,
here's another one. I find one more. Take this out, y'all.

Speaker 28 (52:40):
Northeast Ohio farmers like Fortage County's Chuck Share, and you'll
learn that there are two ws so for which they
have no control.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Weather.

Speaker 29 (52:47):
We got a little dry in August, but weather wives,
we're still pretty good in Washington. In the mood I'm
in right now, and how we see things. I'm glad
the government shut down. I wish they would get out
of the way.

Speaker 28 (52:56):
It's a frustration born out of a trade war with China,
America's biggest buyer of soybeans. It began in twenty eighteen,
when farmers like shir felt the initial hit.

Speaker 29 (53:04):
From twenty thirteen, our income is down over fifty percent.

Speaker 28 (53:08):
So China cut back, they were still buying American soybeans.
In this latest trade war, China market has essentially been
shut down.

Speaker 30 (53:15):
China has stop purchases of soybeans. And this is a
huge impact for our farmers because this is the biggest
export economy for a lot of farmers, you know, throughout
the Midwest, especially in Ohio.

Speaker 28 (53:28):
That's driven down the price of soybeans, which means for
farmers like Shair, a loss on every seed that.

Speaker 29 (53:34):
Was planned this year, every acre of soybean we grow
this year. Right now, we're losing three hundred dollars per acre.
So over our little thousand acre farm of soybeans, that's
three hundred thousand dollars worth a lot.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
And then BOMBI They voted Iowa re state, voted Trump,
Wisconsin Trump, Michigan Trump, Pennsylvania Trump, Nebraska Trump, Kansas Trump,
Missouri Trump. I'm sorry, y'all voted for this. See I

(54:10):
love this and the crazy thing you on me. He
did this shit last time. They got screwed last time,
So forgive me. I don't want it, Tom, I'm not
supporting the bailout. I'm sorry. I'm just gonna say two
words and This might be mean spirited, and I've been

(54:30):
trying not to cuss fuck them. No, I'm just I'm
sick of these people who voted for Trump. But then, oh,
I didn't vote for that. Yes you did because Vice
President Kamala Harrison told you this was gonna happen. But no,
y'all didn't want to believe that. So now all you

(54:50):
farmers are going broke. Damn a bailout. Hell, if they
all go broke, ain't my problem? Hop Oh, get your
ass in the food line for some set up in Oh,
I'm sorry they cutting that too.

Speaker 28 (55:04):
Well.

Speaker 14 (55:04):
I mean, and we've seen farmers have multiple bailouts, so
I mean, this is one of would be one among many.
But I would say to that though, Roland, and this
question comes up over and over again. It's like China
told you what they would do. When Donald Trump was telegraphing,
you know, this tough talk about tariffs and how he
was going to be imposing all these tariffs or in
countries around the world that we do business with, he

(55:27):
took dead aim at China, and China told him then
we won't buy these soybeans, which they told him the
first time he did it, and what they followed through on.
You're talking about an economy with a billion people, and
they heavily are subsidizing right, soybean production this country because
we can't absorb the amount of soybeans being produced by

(55:50):
the United States. So, I mean, you didn't have to
look at third parties to tell you. China told you,
and Donald Trump also told you things like that they're
going to pay for And even though economists and everyone
else said, that's not how terrorists work. People let their racism,
let their nativism, let their worst impulses guide their decision making,

(56:12):
not thinking about the fact that the United States cannot
govern other countries and what they choose to do, China
being one of them. And so now that we're in
the trade will with China, of course we're going to
be in some other stuff with South Korea and other
countries around the world. We can expect not just for
farmers to feel it, but for other parts of our
economy to feel it. It's going to get a lot

(56:34):
worse before it gets better. And if the only thing
we can ask for is more, you know, government welfare
for farmers, this is going to be a real problem
because you have the government talking out of both sides
of their mouths. We can't say we're going to rescue farmers,
but then tell you know, you know the millions of
people that are on Medicare and food subsidies that there's

(56:55):
no money for you. So I think the United States
government or these farmers are going to just have to
reckon with the fact that this is the United States
government that is not interested in them, hasn't been interested
in them, but was willing to use them, and they
were more than willing to be used, and now we
are all reaping the consequences of those actions.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
I don't feel for any of them. I love this here.
One third of Arkansas farmers are projected to go bankrupt
by next year. Did the Trump's tears, They're now begging
him for more money to survive. In twenty twenty four,
ARCISA voted of Trump over Harris sixty three percent. I'm sorry,
I don't give a shit about them going bankruptcybor I

(57:39):
don't care. They voted for this, they knew this was
going to happen, so guess what, Suck it up.

Speaker 14 (57:49):
Totally agree. Everybody had the option to vote for who
you wanted to vote for. Kamala Harris said, Terris was ricklous.
You did no one want to say adhere to her.

Speaker 8 (57:59):
They didn't live.

Speaker 14 (58:00):
They decided to vote the way they wanted to vote,
and these are the unintended consequences of what they voted for.
You don't win a trade war when the other side
can learn to live without you. They are just finding
ways to circumvent going to America. And if our farmers
lose out when this is what they voted for.

Speaker 5 (58:21):
To Bed, you.

Speaker 8 (58:22):
Should have listened to the economists.

Speaker 14 (58:24):
You should have listened to all of those warning signs
and looked at his track record of what happened to
you the last time he was in office. So at
the end of the day, you knew what was going
to happen, and you didn't believe what was going to happen.
Are your hatred and your racism and all of the
things that you care about more trumps what your future

(58:47):
would look like on your form. So if you're losing
a form for all the years that you've had that
form to bad, We've lost so much more as a
black community with the decisions they made to vote this
president in office.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
I don't care on my congo. I do not care.
If they go broke, they go broke. I hear you,
and last I hear you. And lastly, lastly, Democrats don't
build their asses out because see they got built out

(59:21):
last time. They got they got welfare last time, and
they still said screw Biden, the screw hairs. So I
would be like, hell, don wh ain't supporting no bail out?
Hell no, matter of fact. I would say, you want
fifty billion, you want to bail out for the farmers,
Well then you're gonna build out stut loan.

Speaker 6 (59:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (59:41):
Yeah, I mean they could demand a lot. I mean,
the Democrats could demand a lot if they wanted to.
I mean they're fighting for you know, the healthcare, but
they can demand a lot of things right now, tariffs,
you know, cut those into like. But when it comes
to these farmers, you know, you know, Trump is like
the guy who paid somebody to attack him and his
girlfriend to lose the fight so he could be the savior.
Like he needs people to depend on him, and that
is exactly what he's doing with these farmers.

Speaker 15 (01:00:03):
These farmers.

Speaker 16 (01:00:03):
I keep thinking of the lake great doctor Joe Madison,
who says, what are you going to do about it?

Speaker 15 (01:00:07):
If you feel like you're being screwed, then you should.

Speaker 16 (01:00:10):
Be down to be supporting the Democrats. Funding democratic campaign
has already happened to you in twenty eighteen. But like
you said, they're blaming anybody but Trump. They're blaming China,
they're blaming Democrats, they're blaming Washington gridlock. What did the
guys say, I could do without Washington? But they don't
want to go for the guy who's making this happen.
And one thing that we haven't mentioned is this Argentina
twenty billion dollar bailoff that's going to be happening, and

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Argentina's making a deal with China for the soybeans as well.
So it's like they're getting screwed in so many different levels.
We're bailing off these other countries and screwing the farmers.
And they should have been paying attention not only in
twenty eighteen, but also when USAID got closed down, because
that was also a venue that they used to get
their grains across the world as well. And when that

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didn't happen, when they didn't speak about after that got
shut down, I'm like, they're still going to ride with
this dude, regardless, They're still going to red be for
what this guy says, regardless, and once they loving their
land and is bought by some type of foreign enterity
because Trump got all these connections with the Saudis and
so on and so forth. I still don't know if
we're gonna get them to move towards the Democratic side
come twenty twenty six and come twenty twenty eight. But

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I think the Democrats will have a big heart, and
if they get in, they're still gonna bail them out anyway.

Speaker 15 (01:01:23):
I can see it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Go bro, Hey, what do they used to do in
Rome in the coliseum. I'm like, I do not have
an ounce of empathy for these people. I cannot feel
bad for somebody who voted for a person who made

(01:01:50):
it clear he was gonna launch tairs and it screwed
your last time, and then you're shock he got screwed.
So well, remember that hotel guy. It's above me that
it's about me. I do not support welfare, a subsidy,
a bailout, whatever you want to call it for these farmers.

(01:02:11):
As matter of fact, as we're going to do that,
I only support a bailout for farmers in blue states.

Speaker 22 (01:02:20):
Is it that?

Speaker 5 (01:02:20):
How Trump is operating. I'm just saying, already, y'all going
to break, we come back, We're gonna talk. One of
the Cannon's running for mayor of New Orleans election is
on Saturday. Let's talk about it. You watch your Rolling
Mark and Unfiltered on the Black Stun network.

Speaker 25 (01:02:34):
If in this country right now, you have people get
up in the morning and the only thing they can
think about is how many people they can hurt, and
they've got the power.

Speaker 15 (01:02:44):
That's the time for morning, for better or worse.

Speaker 19 (01:02:47):
What makes America special, It's that legal system that's supposed
to protect minorities from the tyranny of the majority.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
As we are at a point of a moral emergency,
we must raise a voice of outrage. We must raise
a voice of compassion, and we must raise.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
A voice of unity. We are not in a crisis
of party versus party.

Speaker 25 (01:03:14):
We are in a crisis of civilization, a humans rights crisis,
and a crisis of democracy itself. And guess what, You've
been chosen to make sure that those that would destroy,
those that would hate, don't have the final say, and
they don't ultimately win.

Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
Michael McMillan, President and CEO of the Urban League of
Metropolitan Saint Louis and you were watching Roland Martin unfiltered folks.
On Saturday, those of New Orleans will let their next mayor.
Three fund runners have emerged from a crowded field of
a living candidate's buying for a position. Louisiana State Senator
Rush du Plessy's City Council Vice president Klama Marino City

(01:03:59):
council member All Thomas. They're competing to replace Mayor LaToya Contreil,
who is turn limited leave office in January. Ken Trella
is curly facing federal corruption charters. New Orlan's city counsel
Mayor Oliver Thomas. Thomas's Thomas Jones is right now, Cosmer Thomas,
let have you back on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
The show man. Good to be back with you.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
A lot of folks have been voting early. Black turnout
is high as well. Most important, your top three priorities
if you're elected mayor of New Orleans.

Speaker 31 (01:04:24):
Well, first of all, to make sure that this little
crime surge we have now right now is timey and
we can have a safe community. And then to deliver
the city services has really kind of fallen apart. People
really want and expect that if they're going to pay
their taxes that they're going to pay the city, that
they should get their services on time. And then the

(01:04:45):
last thing is how do we come together to protect
this community. We've been under siege we see by threats outside,
threats from the federal government, as well as we need
to have a better relationship with our state. Our state
needs to be more partner than predator. But those are
three things, along with having some of the most qualified
people to run those departments. I'm going to be looking

(01:05:07):
at those areas.

Speaker 5 (01:05:08):
One of the things that jumps out obviously incolumb revialization.
You're still trying to recover, frankly from Katrina. Business is left,
people left, rebuilding your housing infrastructure. What your plan for that.

Speaker 31 (01:05:22):
Well, Louisiana is losing population, The metro region is losing population.
But the crazy thing is that we attract people. We
punch way above our way. When you talk about tourism,
we're one of the most visited places in the world
per capita.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
We need to build on that.

Speaker 31 (01:05:38):
I have a plan for ten thousand houses, bring together
housing experts. Let's use a lot of nonprofits that were
successful in the past.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Let's take a.

Speaker 31 (01:05:47):
Look at how we reprogram CEBDG funds for soft seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
How do we use the Good Neighbor program and the.

Speaker 31 (01:05:54):
Teacher next Door program down successful around the country to
make sure that you large force of personnel and others
can get an opportunity even in many cases with THEIRMIGA
salaries can get an opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
To own a home in our community.

Speaker 31 (01:06:10):
So I was the first person out with the ten
thousand Homes program, and I really want to mimic some
of the success that happened here as well as what
happens around the country.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Look, one thing we know we have space.

Speaker 5 (01:06:24):
One of the things that also is the public trust.
And look, there have been way too many new orllan
mayor city council members who have been indicted, guilty, gone
to prison for corruption. How do you gain the public

(01:06:45):
trust and let them know that you're going to be
different than what has happened in the past.

Speaker 31 (01:06:49):
Unfortunately, Well, first of all, I'm much better because of
what I went through. I want to have an office
of ethics and integrity and as transparent so people can
see at every times that we're working hard to establish
that trust. But one of the most difficult things that
we're going to have to do in this country as
well as in local communities. People don't trust the political

(01:07:10):
system they're going to have. We're going to We're going
to gain that trust by our actions to make sure
that we're above and beyond board, our principles, our integrity,
We lead, and I'm committed to doing that. I want
to be the first mayor to have an office of
public Trust and Integrity. We're going to lead with that
and we're going to work hard to earn the citizens trust.

(01:07:31):
But like most folks who fell down, I really think
I offered an opportunity to tell a community that's struggling
to show how we can get up. Just because you
fill down doesn't mean you stay down. In many cases,
your lowest point maybe a way that you can look
up to see that we can get to our highest point.
And new All deserves the very best for me in

(01:07:53):
all of government questions.

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
Rob Panel on the Congo First.

Speaker 15 (01:07:58):
Yes, I was very, very passionate about education.

Speaker 16 (01:08:02):
And one of the things I'm wondering is even with
Trump's targeted attacks and what they're doing across the country,
they just have very blind policies that they are creating
across all departments that are having real impact in local communities.
Given what is happening with the Department of Education in
this country, how do you support local education initiatives with

(01:08:22):
everything that they are doing in terms of cuts and
just getting it of various programs from DEI and the like.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Well, that's one of the things that I built my reputation.

Speaker 31 (01:08:30):
I went to Jefferson Award for taking kids who were
failing and putting one on the honor roll. I was
a Male of the Year by the Social Workers here
in New Orleans for the mentoring and.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
The work that I do.

Speaker 31 (01:08:42):
I grew up in the Low ninth Ward Desire, one
of the poor communities in this city, and that doesn't
mean anything in terms of your intellect. But also I
want to be the first mayor that has an office
of Education that works hand in hand with the superintendent.
And I'm the only elected official that has an after program.
That's part of my life, man, That's part of what

(01:09:03):
I'm committed to. And those awards that I won, those
awards well before I got elected, which shows that you
don't have to get involved in education and get involved
with our kids just because you have a political title.
That's a way of life for me.

Speaker 14 (01:09:20):
Yeah, So thank you for speaking with us tonight. Now,
I wanted to know what do you think the healthcare
climate is meaning for your city, and in particular, IM
thinking about maternal mortality for black women, not just in
the city and New Worlds, but in the state as
a whole, access to STI screenings, birth control, and contraception, Like,
how do you address.

Speaker 31 (01:09:40):
That yet, that's something that I deal with. I started
the first mental health show mentally speaking, ten years ago
on w Dook. I wasn't elected, but as someone who
grew up in a neighborhood that saw its first body
my brother and I when we were in elementary school,
I understand the effects of mental health trauma when you

(01:10:01):
talk about this SPDs in this community. Over the last
ten or eleven years, black women have led in HIV
and sexually transmitted diseases. Louisiana is forty fourth in health care.
So whether it's mental health, physical health, this community deserves
I think a national trauma center that takes a look

(01:10:24):
at mental health and chronic illnesses. We lead New Orleans
flips back and forth with Saint Louis and Detroit when
you talk about chronic illnesses here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
So that's something that I lended a platform to that.

Speaker 31 (01:10:37):
As mayor, I want to have a health department that
focuses on chronic illnesses, especially in our largest demographic, the
African American community. So that's already part of my life,
so you can bet and make sure that that's going
to be a priority in my administration.

Speaker 7 (01:10:53):
Thank you the board, Thank.

Speaker 8 (01:10:58):
You missus Helmers for her on here.

Speaker 14 (01:11:01):
You talked about expanding housing and neighborhood programs, and I
want to know how would you make sure that disabled
and deaf residents aren't just included on paper, but are
fully centered in these programs in getting housing and ensuring
that they are accessible, affordable and designed with those individuals
in mind.

Speaker 31 (01:11:20):
Well, it seems like every question you guys are asking
is in line with my resume. My family, my late
sister Juliette, was disabled, shared cerebral policy. It was a
difficult time getting around with my family in the city
that didn't have access. And one of the other things
I did one of the icons heroes. As a matter

(01:11:44):
of fact, there are neutral grounds with this picture on
the Charles Tubreay. I worked with him several years ago
to make sure that we brought light to whether it
was disabled, access to Ada buses where the disabled can access.
And as we begin to construct new buildings and new
housing and new places to live, we are missing out
in this country on billions of dollars just because families

(01:12:08):
and folk with disabilities can't access commercial places. I can't
access public spaces. So this is something I had to
grow up with. This is something that I'm going to
continue to work with. So though my late sister is
not here and Charlie Tubray isn't here, that's ingrained into
who I am.

Speaker 5 (01:12:29):
Right then, well again, the election is on Saturday, and
then just five based up the campaign Cosmic Talmas. We
appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Well, thank you guys.

Speaker 31 (01:12:39):
Continue to do what you're doing, leading the way and
not only speaking truth to power, but doing it from
a power position.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
We appreciate that. That's what I want to do, is
mayor all right?

Speaker 5 (01:12:49):
Thanks so much. I retainly appreciate it. Folks, got to
go to a break. We come back more on today's show,
including an organization that celebrating the twenty anniversary that was
founded by my man Harry Belafonte, the Gathering for Justice.
They're having their big gala on the thirteenth of October.
We talked about that on the show, plus lots of
more than the breakdown you're watching. Roland Martin Unfiltered right

(01:13:11):
here on the Black Star Network.

Speaker 32 (01:13:15):
Said the quiet part out loud. Black votes are a threat,
so they erased them. After the Supreme Court gutted the
Voting Rights Act in twenty thirteen, Republican legislatures moved fast
new voter id laws, polling place shutdowns, purges of black
voters from the rolls. Trump's Justice Department didn't stop it.

(01:13:36):
They joined in. In twenty eighteen, his DOJ backed Ohio's
voter purge system, a scheme that disproportionately erased Black voters.
Their goal erased black votes and political power.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Yeah, that happened.

Speaker 32 (01:13:50):
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Speaker 26 (01:14:13):
Hatred on the streets a horrific scene, a white nationalist
rally that descended into deadly violence.

Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
White people are losing their.

Speaker 7 (01:14:23):
Their minds.

Speaker 33 (01:14:25):
As an angry pro Trump Monck storms to the US
Capital Saint Show.

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
We're about to see the lives where I call white
minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country
who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting.

Speaker 33 (01:14:39):
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of
violent denial.

Speaker 7 (01:14:44):
This is part of American history.

Speaker 33 (01:14:46):
Every time that people of color had made a progress,
whether real or symbolic, there has been but Carold Anderson
at every university calls white rage as a backlash is
the wrath.

Speaker 5 (01:14:56):
Of the proud boys and the boogaloo boys America. There's
going to be more of this.

Speaker 8 (01:15:01):
Ay.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
This country is getting increasingly racist and its behaviors and
its attitudes because of the fear of white.

Speaker 5 (01:15:10):
People the few that they're taking our jobs, they're taking
our resources, they're taking our women. This is white Field. Hello.

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You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered Folks in Louisiana new video
evidence presented by the attorney for a deceased former LSU

(01:17:09):
star raising major concerns about the case against him. Kirrin
Lacey tragically died by suicide earlier this year. This was
after he was charged with a vehicle homicide. Now. This
footage was taken December twenty twenty four, was reviewed by
Attorney Matt Or on Louisiana's HTV ten, showing Lacey's car

(01:17:33):
was far behind the deadly crash in LaForce Parish and
had not even been visible at the moment of impact.
The crash killed seventy eight year old Herman Hall. At
the time, State police claim another driver's swerved to avoid Lacey's,
sparking the collision and leading to charges of negligent homicide
in the hit and run. Well shocking details have also surfaced.

(01:17:54):
Police officers were caught on bodycam footage coaching a key
witness to implicate Lace. See watch this look.

Speaker 34 (01:18:03):
Don't worry about feeling any any of this top information,
like your name, don't worry about any of that. Just
right here, if you could, I'll just have you right
exactly what you saw.

Speaker 15 (01:18:11):
Just make sure to include you know where you were.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
I don't.

Speaker 15 (01:18:20):
You know that you're just all.

Speaker 34 (01:18:24):
Just make sure you add in there that you had
to slam on your brakes and the brakes like you know,
you had to slam on the brakes to avoid that charger,
and the brakes locked up to avoid that charger.

Speaker 15 (01:18:32):
That's even going with me in the back of me.

Speaker 7 (01:18:37):
She is always happening.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
That's how she called that record. Ready in the back
of me, she put.

Speaker 32 (01:18:44):
So.

Speaker 34 (01:18:44):
But the charger was coming right at you, correct, And
that's why you have the head on with you. So yeah,
just make sure you include that. That's very important because
we're trying to locate this charger right now. Look, don't
worry about feeling any any of this time.

Speaker 5 (01:18:57):
The officers portly turned off your body cams before your
statement written by an unnamed individual. Now, the Louisian Democratic
Party is demanding in the independent investigation, blasting what it
calls wrongful accusations and pushing for the Lacy Law bill.
AM is stopping false reporting and holding law enforcement accountable.
Now in October full statement, state police said finding during

(01:19:17):
the investigation show that Lacey's reckless driving led to the crash.
Quote no one disputes that he was behind the crash scene,
but Attorney General Liz Merrill by release this statement today,
I have been in touch with the Louisiana State Police
about independently reviewing all the witness statements and evidence in
this case. That's what's going on here, and so the

(01:19:38):
civil rights group purpose for the people, they're calling for
a full criminal and federal investigation in to the officers.
They have a peaceful protest played later this mother. That's
going to take place on Saturday, October twenty fifth, at
noon the two pm at Martin Luther King Park, nine
hundred of Ldet Drive. That's a nine hundred LADEBT drive.

(01:19:58):
This isn't going to our panel here. This right here
is obviously extremely troubling on the congo. I mean, this
was a young man who was projected to be first round,
second round pick in the NFL draft. He took his
life because so many people assumed that he was guilty,
that he actually did this. Now his attorney is saying no,
he was not close to the scene.

Speaker 15 (01:20:21):
Wow, this is incredibly tragic.

Speaker 16 (01:20:24):
You know, we spend so much attention, rightfully so, to
unarmed shootings of police and serious issues like that, as
of course we should, but there are also you know,
black lives that we lose over situations like this, and
we don't talk about this enough. The fact that this
man is, this young man is gone because of how

(01:20:45):
he was tormented after this in this community, after after
police potentially lied about what this man did.

Speaker 15 (01:20:53):
It's absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 16 (01:20:55):
And the fact that people can just go all of
his time and just live their lives after destroying this
man's life. Even if he lived, his whole career would
have been destroyed with these investigations. But he's gone and
his family has to deal with that, and our community
has to deal with this, and he should be here
right now. Save for the false, potentially false accusations of

(01:21:15):
these police officers, and the fact that this was not
investigated beforehand just means that some people were just intent
on throwing this man's life away. Maybe they thought he
was too big for his riches, too popular, or whatever.
They were just intent on doing this, and now we
have to go backwards to try to rebuild this case,
which should have never happened in the first place. It's
tragic and there needs to be real consequences if more

(01:21:37):
wrongdoing is found the boy.

Speaker 8 (01:21:40):
This is ridiculous.

Speaker 14 (01:21:42):
We are looking at how a kid's life was took
even though he committed suicide. Their decisions impact that this
young man's life just being gone and his family having
to grieve and go through all these things.

Speaker 8 (01:21:58):
He didn't die in the vacuum.

Speaker 14 (01:22:00):
This is a part of just a long violent history
of how places like Louisiana and Mississippi treat our black
children when something happens with them. They don't thoroughly investigate.
They rewrite our stories, and they lie to cover up,
and they're the power that is never being in check,
is not accountable. And until we confront the history and

(01:22:24):
change it and make sure that for kids like Lacy,
we're doing something to hold these people accountable, I don't
know how we go forward with raising our children and
they're in these environments where we can't trust the police,
we can't trust the reporting of the incidents that are happening.

Speaker 8 (01:22:43):
It just doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 5 (01:22:47):
Yea Imbi.

Speaker 14 (01:22:49):
I said, this is just tragic and cruel.

Speaker 8 (01:22:52):
I remember when the story was first reported.

Speaker 14 (01:22:54):
I mean, this young man had his reputation and his
future dragged through the mud with little to no investigation,
it appears, or at least with the investigation was there.
For whatever reason, it seems like someone was intent to
ruin this young man's future when by all accounts, all

(01:23:14):
he wanted to do was played football, and he did
that at a very high level and had his whole
future ahead of him, and not just his future, the
future for his family. Had a younger brother and others
who were counting on him were and he wanted to
be that person to change his family's future and their trajectory.

(01:23:38):
And the pressure, I think this more than anything else,
shows the pressure that this young man was under that
mentally he just could not continue because it very much
looked like the state of Louisiana was prepared to send
him to prison for something that he absolutely didn't appear
anywhere near close to doing.

Speaker 8 (01:23:58):
Certainly, the story of.

Speaker 14 (01:23:59):
Him living in out of traffic behind the accident was
not the cause of said accident. And I will also,
you know, commend his family and his attorney for continuing
to fight for justice on behalf of Kyron, because he
absolutely did not deserve what happened to him. And I
would say that there is negligence and there is responsibility

(01:24:23):
here for Kyraen's death, and it's not Kiren, it is
the state of Louisiana. It is the recklessness of some
local news organizations and the way they reported this story
like it was already a foregone conclusion that this young
man had killed someone with his vehicle and then rolled
away and didn't render aid and didn't assist. I mean,
it was just a horrible thing to happen to any person.

(01:24:46):
But when we think about the psyche and the pressure
of young people, and certainly of this young man, we
have to remember.

Speaker 8 (01:24:52):
What the stakes are. Our children are still our children.

Speaker 14 (01:24:55):
He is not a man. He was a baby, and
I think we don't think about that often because they're
big and because they're strong and they have muscles and
all of these things. But that young man's mental health
took a toll, and it's evidenced by the fact that he.

Speaker 8 (01:25:13):
Ended his life.

Speaker 25 (01:25:13):
And it's.

Speaker 15 (01:25:16):
Tragic.

Speaker 5 (01:25:17):
Yep, indeed, extremely extremely tragic, and so we'll hopefully see
a real investigation take place. All right, folks, got to
go to break. We come back. We'll talk about the
Gathering for Justice twenty years later, after an organization founded
by Hair Belafonte started, we'll talk about their upcoming gala
right here, unfiltered of the Blackstar Network.

Speaker 12 (01:25:41):
This week, on the other side of Change, we are
talking about our low Star, our luminary, our guide, Asada Chakur,
who recently passed away in Cuba. We're going to unpack
her legacy.

Speaker 17 (01:25:54):
I refuse to allow ASADA's legacy to die before children
that aren't even born, like our babies that aren't even born,
must know her and must know her.

Speaker 22 (01:26:04):
And that road map is going to get us closer
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Next on the Black Table with me Craig Carr, a
reminder that there is always more to a story than
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and the loss of basic human rights, the actual motivations
behind those actions and others paint an even more troubling
picture than most of us realize.

Speaker 18 (01:26:37):
What we need to do is bring this issue front
and center to the table, because the alternative is that
we'll just go down slow, which is no way to
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Master historian and educator doctor Gerald Horn joins us again,
and we take a deep dive into the truths behind
the headlines of the day and how we might be
to turn the time. That's on the next Black Table
here on the Blackstar Network.

Speaker 32 (01:27:07):
He said, the quiet part out loud. Black votes are
a threat, so they erased them. After the Supreme Court
gutted the Voting Rights Act in twenty thirteen, Republican legislatures
moved fast new voter ID laws, polling place shutdowns, purges
of black voters from the rolls. Trump's Justice Department didn't
stop it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
They joined in.

Speaker 32 (01:27:29):
In twenty eighteen, his DOJ backed Ohio's voter purge system,
a scheme that disproportionately erased Black voters. Their goal erase
black votes and political power. Yeah, that happened. These are
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Speaker 5 (01:28:06):
This is motown recording artist Kim. You are watching Roland
Martin Unfiltered?

Speaker 22 (01:28:12):
Boy?

Speaker 5 (01:28:13):
He always unfiltered though I ain't never known him to
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Would you expect anything less? Why watch? Watch what happens next?

Speaker 35 (01:28:39):
Fourteen years ago, in Atlanta, Georgia. I called for a
gathering of community leaders, civil rights leaders, artists and activists
to come to thing we called the Gathering. At that gathering,
we discussed the state of the Union, the state of America,

(01:29:01):
the state of the Black condition. That gathering turned out
to be quite impressive, and if ever, since then, the
Gathering has endured and has been continued to do work
in the communities across this country. Fourteen years is a
long time, and I am honored and pleased to see

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that this little ideas blossomed into the moving.

Speaker 6 (01:29:34):
Primarily by by young woman by the name of common Peas.
He's a remarkable young woman. As he has left this
organization with great dixter it and with confidence. I would
like to ask you, in the name of those forty years,

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to make a donation to the Gathering for it to
continue to do its work.

Speaker 15 (01:30:01):
Fourteen dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:30:03):
A dollar for the year they got the way which
you're able to continue forty the programs you're Grandia, all
of the duntry, if.

Speaker 15 (01:30:14):
You're so inclined, and they will go on.

Speaker 6 (01:30:17):
I'd ask you to donate fourteen dollars so the Gathering
for Justice dot org. Thank you for listening, Thank you
for contributing.

Speaker 5 (01:30:34):
Folks. That was six years ago. That of course was
harr Belafonte for the fourteenth anniversary of the Gathering for Justice,
and October thirteenth, they're going to be in New York
City celebrating their twentieth anniversary. A number of people will
be gathering there to talk about the work that they've done,

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the efforts they have been involved in, and how far
they've come in these twenty years. One of the folks
who's been there from the beginning is my next guest.
She of course met dot Harry Belafonte and opportunity to
work with him. Carmen Perez Jordan's she's the president's CEO
of the Gathering for Justice. Carden, glad to have you here.

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This was the thing that a lot of people don't realize,
just the number of entities, whether we're talking about the
Gathering for Justice, whether we're talking about Sankofa. Up until
his final breath, mister b was forever engaged in social
justice and he understood the need for, frankly, the next

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generation to be tapped as opposed to the elders of
the Old Heads continuing to lead efforts.

Speaker 8 (01:31:50):
Absolutely well. Thank you so much Roland for always giving
us a platform at the gathering for Justice and Justice
League and YC. You're absolutely right. The gathering began as
Miss Bees called to conscious and for two decades we've
answered that call, organizing across race, generations, and geography to
end chaut incarcerations, state sanctioned violence, and gender justice. This

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milestone for us is really a reflection on what justice
looks like in America today and how we continue to
build the world that our children deserve. And so twenty
years I can't believe it. Definitely a milestone, but there's
so much work to do still, and so I hope
that folks are able to join us. We've trained thousands

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of young people in King yanon violence and organizing, really
continuing not just a legacy of Harry Belafonte, but also
doctor Martin Luther King Junior. We've built movements like the
Women's March, Free Meek Mill, Moms for Melissa I am Meg,
and changed laws and created spaces for healing as well

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as transformation. As you know, we founded Justice League n YC.
And we became the engine for criminal justice reform, from
closing rikers to raising the age of criminal responsibilities. So
there's a lot to celebrate. There's also, I think, in
these very dark times, a moment to come together and

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to also begin to think about what does a legacy
look like continuing for the next twenty years.

Speaker 5 (01:33:20):
I'm going to go back to what he talked about
was that gathering in Atlanta, and while it was happening,
it dawned on him that this is not the group,
this is not the room that's going to fix the problem.
In his documentary, he talked about that it dawned on
him that frankly, it was too many older folks who

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were talking about what needed to happen, and he said, no,
I need to be connecting with a younger generation.

Speaker 8 (01:33:48):
Absolutely. I think one of the beautiful things about mister
B is that he was able to bring elders together
with young people to harness the energy of the young people.
We are still an intergenerational organization. I think about everyone
who has been able to share their wisdom with so
many of us. As you saw in the clips, Cornell

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West has come to talk to us. Mister B spent
hours and hours and hours with leaders from Ferguson, BLM,
Justice League and YC, the Women's March. He really lent
his time to many of us, the Dream Defenders, and
so I think mister b had a very different vision
for the world where he was able to access the
wisdom of the elders, to harness the energy of the

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youth and really drive something forward. And you're right that
day he was like, look, all these folks have their
own platforms, they're engaged in their own organizations. What does
it look like to really bring the next generation? And
I believe it was a October convenient where I was
brought by my Mentornane Alejandris from Barriosunidos And ever since then,

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I've been dedicated to this work and the Gathering for
Justice for folks.

Speaker 5 (01:34:55):
Who don't know what exactly does the Gathering for Justice do.

Speaker 8 (01:35:00):
So we train young people in organizing Kingyan No Violence.
We have what's called the Youth Organizers United. We also
build movements. We are kind of like a movement incubator.
It's where you know, young people, we have our Rapid Response,
which is Justice League. Those who are feeling very disengaged,

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feeling disempowered, they're able to come and really, you know,
be part of something larger than themselves as well as
we change policies. Right now, we're working to close down wrikers.
We have policies in New York that we're fighting and
in Kywa. There's so many things that we do, from

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policy to organizing, to stopping police violence to stopping child incarceration.
We work on various issues as well as we work
on a gender lens. As many people know, the twenty
seventeen Women's March was brought into the Gathering for Justice
where we were able to really create entry points for
women to get involved, and it was the largest single

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day protest in the history.

Speaker 5 (01:36:04):
Of the world. When you look at what's happening right now,
obviously there's a lot of people who frankly are fearful
of going to the streets. They're fearful of being attacked
by Donald Trump and his federal thugs as well. So
how do you see right now the movement? Is it

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some say stalled of the say no, it's actually more
quiet behind the scenes. How would you assess what's happening
because obviously we're not seeing the same massive turnout and
things on those lines that we've seen over the last
several years.

Speaker 8 (01:36:41):
Yeah, I think mister b taught us that movement work
is about more than protest. It's about building the beloved
community that his good friend and confident on doctor King
dreamt of right. And so a lot of us are
organizing underground. Not everything is for the ground, not everything
is for social media. There's a lot of work that
happen outside of social media that we were doing. We

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do healing justice work. So not only are we teaching
people how to organize, create demands or to learn how
to do civil disobedience, we're also providing healing work for
folks that are really feeling the way of what's happening
in this moment or for many many years. I think
a lot of folks have gone underground. They're strategizing, they're

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connecting with one another, especially because right now organizations and
activists are being targeted, and so there's an opportunity to
really be in solidarity with one another to continue the work.

Speaker 12 (01:37:39):
I know.

Speaker 8 (01:37:39):
There's a lot of initiatives being launched. There's binational work happening,
there's cross solidarity work happening, And again, a lot of folks,
if you're not connected, there's opportunities to be connected. You
could go to our website. You could follow us on
social media and you can learn more about the efforts
and get involved in the work that's happening. But we

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will say it's you know, we've been criminalized for going
out and protesting, and so people are protecting themselves. People
are doing and utilizing other tactics and strategies to be
part of this work.

Speaker 5 (01:38:12):
Absolutely, and you know this was this has called a
big different because ten years ago it was called the
Justice Ball.

Speaker 8 (01:38:20):
Yeah, and you were the host. Yes, this is this
is twenty years of impact. We are wanting to celebrate
the twenty years and we know that there's still more
work that needs to happen. You know, coming together on
October thirteen, Reclaiming Indigenous People Day in New York is
really important for us. It's going to be a night

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of storytelling, music and solidarity and a reminder of the
power of community and what's possible when we come together.
We're going to be honoring some extraordinary leaders and allies
who embody justice and action. We have Zakiyah Shakir and Sorry,
who's the executive director of Alliance for Quality Education. She's

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one of our Justice League members, as well as Desre Perez,
CEO of Rock Nation, and our elder Danny Glover, who
has always guided us. He's always been there really supporting
the work that we do, as well as Desiree, who
has been somebody who we've been working with through United
Justice Coalition. So it's gonna have people who have used

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their voices and platforms empowered to advance equity and freedom.
And we're really excited to come together to celebrate.

Speaker 5 (01:39:29):
Question from our panels afore you first.

Speaker 8 (01:39:33):
Thank you so much for the work that you're doing.

Speaker 14 (01:39:36):
I'm a student, I'm in a PhD program at Howard
and I'm just curious how do me myself get other
students involved in the services and the things that you
were doing and just get them more aware of what's
going on.

Speaker 8 (01:39:51):
Absolutely well, we love students. We currently work in five
high schools. We also engaged a lot of the young
people that we have worked with, like Bria Baker came
from Yale and she was part of Justice League, and
so they could plug in through our work by sending
us a message. Our website is www dot gatheringfor Justice
dot org, or you could reach out to us on

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social media at Gather for Justice. We would love to
talk to your young people. We would love to get
them engaged in our work. Really, it's about this generation
in this moment. One of our greatest asset is our
human asset. Resources come and go, but it's really the
people that drive the movement, and so please connect us
to your young folks. They are the now generation. Yes

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they're the future, but they're also the present and they're
really the greatest gift we have. And it is our responsibility,
as you know, people who've been in this work for
a long time, to continue to cultivate their leadership. It's
what mister Belafonte taught us, and that's how we're going
to make changes by bringing everyone with us, especially our youth.

Speaker 5 (01:40:53):
And you're right, And so I was up pulling this up,
so I had to pull up a man Johnny Noon
as his photos. This was, of course, was ten years ago.
I've gotten a few myself as well, so that that's
when it was Carmen Pereez, not Carma Perez Jordan.

Speaker 8 (01:41:09):
Oh my god, yes, that's not what babies. It's a
very different movement when you're a mama because they come first.

Speaker 5 (01:41:16):
Absolutely on the congo.

Speaker 16 (01:41:20):
Thank you so much for the work that you're doing,
and as a college professor, I know that there's some
college students whould be interested in your work as well.
Given mister Bellafonte's incredible legacy as an artist. What approaches
does your organization take as relates to embracing the arts
as a tool for social.

Speaker 8 (01:41:38):
Change in this day and age, Well, that is actually
part of our core values. It's the way it's in
the fabric of the organization. Mister Bellafonte taught us that
artists are the gatekeepers of truth, their civilization's radical voice,
and so we partner with artists who are called artist.
We actually have a song called I Believe that was

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put together by some of our activist artivists Karis LaVey,
my Son Lennon, as well as Jackie Cruz and FIFA,
and so art is emerged in all the work that
we do, not just music, but also any type of
art video. You know, the way in which we tell
stories has always been through music, through videos, through you know,

(01:42:20):
collective art and storytelling. We also have a film called
Following Harry, Especially if you are all professors, this is
a film following mister Bellafonte the last fourteen years of
his life, connected to contemporary artists and activists, and you
really get to see behind the scenes of his mentorship

(01:42:40):
to our generation. And so that's also a great film
to share with your students as well.

Speaker 15 (01:42:47):
Niambi, congratulations of you.

Speaker 7 (01:42:51):
Twenty years is huge.

Speaker 14 (01:42:52):
So I wanted to ask you one about how has
your focus on youth incarceration not change but evolved because
now we have the incarceration of immigrant children and these separations, Like,
how do you adapt to address that kind of need,
which is a slightly different thing.

Speaker 8 (01:43:17):
Yeah, what we're learning from the young people that we serve,
I mean, we also work on stopping police violence. So
I really appreciate the conversation you all had earlier, right,
and what that does? You know, how we criminalize young
black boys or young black children who seem to perceive
to be older. But in regards to what we're seeing

(01:43:37):
right now in our high schools, our young people are
facing multi issues. So initially we go in thinking that
we're dealing with young people that are impacted by gangs
or violence, incarceration, and drugs, But we're now having to
pivot by offering know your rights trainings workshops for our
young folks because they're also being impacted by immigration reform.

(01:44:00):
Their parents are actually the ones that are getting picked
up and being chased by ice in the fields. It's
something that we saw. One of the counties that we
work in is Ventura County. It was rated a couple
months ago. It was all over TV, and so our
organizers that are on the ground tell us, you know,

(01:44:20):
we can't just focus on leadership development or job empowerment
organizing or kingyon on violence. We also have to equip
as young people with no you're rights, So we try
to give them stipends so that they could participate in
our programming. We also feed them and then we try
to make the sessions relevant to what they're facing. But

(01:44:42):
there's also an intersection, right that we're not really talking about, is,
especially when it comes to police violence, is that now
we're also seeing state sanctioned violence when it comes to
ice raids and detention centers. So there's an opportunity to
really build solidarity in this moment. And I know for
the work that I've done with mister Bellafonte, that was

(01:45:03):
something that was very important to him. But certainly our
work is pivoting. We have to respond to the moment.
We just can't go as business as usual, and we
have to make things that are relevant. Some of our
programming is in Spanish. We do a Doctor Martin Luther
King Solidarity Summit and aux Snard. Even though it's predominantly Latino.

(01:45:26):
We really try to make sure that we're teaching the
lessons of doctor King and people to understand the rights
in which they get to have privilege to actually benefiting from,
and the teachings of Harry Belafonte. But we offer our
programming in English and Spanish as well to make sure
that the parents understand that there are resources for them.

Speaker 5 (01:45:49):
This, of course was a photo we took that night
the mission to b that night. It was November ninth,
twenty fifteen. Yes, I always have my archives going in
the fact, so this folks who you see the show
when we normally in our living room area. So that
portrait you see right there, that actually was that was

(01:46:10):
auction that night. I should have bought it that night.
It probably would have cost me a lot less money
than what I did. But that was a piece that
was being auction that night, and it was I love
the piece, and so the sister who did it. When
we opened our studios here I had, I commissioned a
second one done that's the exact same one that was
that night. And you know, obviously Matt respect for mister

(01:46:33):
b has been passed away April twenty fifth, twenty twenty three,
and it has certainly been you know, of course we
had we had celebration of life a year later on
his birthday at Riverside Church. But obviously a Carmen, someone
who was such a towering figure, it still must be

(01:46:58):
difficult having and not physically with us.

Speaker 8 (01:47:02):
Yeah, I saw the video that you shared, and I
got a little emotional.

Speaker 25 (01:47:07):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:47:08):
I think in these moments, I pray for him to
speak to me, and then you know, I'll start reading
his book and there you have it, all the answers
that you prayed for in his book. But there's a
lot of moments where I miss him. I was in
the office with him almost every day. Friday nights were
probably my favorite, where he would put on his music,

(01:47:29):
his Sounds of Africa, and I would play my hip
hop and we'd exchange you know, he'd give me some
rum that kind of burns my piosophag has burned my chest.
But we would talk and I just loved being in
the office with him, I learned so much. If you
asked him a question, he took three hours to answer

(01:47:51):
it because he gave you historical analysis. He wanted you
to really know how we got to the moment. I
think right now a lot of people need wisdom, and
that's why I really encourage people to watch the film
Following Harry. You know, follow our work as well at
the Gathering for Justice and get involved. There's a lane
for everyone. He would always say, whatever gift you have,

(01:48:13):
bring that to the movement, and there is definitely room
for all of us during these times. And I feel like,
you know, we want everyone to be part of this
moment and to attend the gala, especially because you know
we are in dark times and we need each other
more than ever.

Speaker 5 (01:48:28):
Where can Following Harry be watched.

Speaker 8 (01:48:32):
So if you reach out to me again through the
Gathering for Justice dot org email or website, you can
we could respond to you and and support you in
actually finding the film. We are collaborating with universities to
offer the film, and so again reach out to us

(01:48:54):
at the gathering and we'd be more than happy to
connect you to the filmmakers who Zann Rostock as well
as Frankie who is one of the lead producers. Frankie Nassau,
I'm working the gathering for Justices, working with the following
Harry team to make sure that this film gets out
to the world, especially because the answers are there. He

(01:49:15):
was speaking directly to us, even though it was fourteen
years ago, seven years ago when they were filming. He
is talking about what we are currently facing in this moment.

Speaker 5 (01:49:24):
Absolutely, and so I saw it. I forgot where I
saw it, but I want to actually see it again.

Speaker 8 (01:49:30):
So yeah, I'm gonna send you a message, Roland, right.

Speaker 12 (01:49:34):
Just do that.

Speaker 5 (01:49:36):
We're gonna close it out. This was actually something put
together for his birthday, so folks check go to my iPad,
y'all check this out.

Speaker 36 (01:49:45):
We've been fighting for a long time in the battling whoa,
we've been fighting for a little time, a little battling,
I believe, believe believe, believe me too, sir.

Speaker 24 (01:50:21):
It's started with a vision to keep the kids out
of prison. So he convened the youth and then they
to get on the mission for final a gender and
change the current traditions.

Speaker 8 (01:50:30):
In the spirit of the King. So we move it
in that tradition to move, and it's up a fiction.

Speaker 7 (01:50:35):
Of righteousness and truth.

Speaker 24 (01:50:37):
We fight for what's right to him, posing life with
the youth, fill the copas.

Speaker 7 (01:50:40):
And shoot unharmed them with their hands up.

Speaker 14 (01:50:43):
The time for all the women and all the men
to stand up for justice and become a.

Speaker 5 (01:50:48):
Part of the league.

Speaker 7 (01:50:49):
I know that we're gonna win.

Speaker 35 (01:50:50):
I swear to God.

Speaker 7 (01:50:51):
I believe that we're gonna be free. I with my
heart on my sleeves.

Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
Right, I'm gonna keep fighting what heavy weapon that I free?

Speaker 5 (01:50:58):
I believe.

Speaker 10 (01:51:01):
Believe?

Speaker 5 (01:51:04):
Do you believe?

Speaker 7 (01:51:07):
Do you believe?

Speaker 5 (01:51:11):
The game that will be taking place October thirteenth? Pull
it up A show with the YA should have the Yeah?
I thought I sold early? Okay, all right? So if
people want to attend, where do they get information? But
if they can't attend, how can they still support the
gathering for Justice?

Speaker 25 (01:51:29):
Carmen.

Speaker 8 (01:51:30):
Absolutely, it's gonna be on Monday, October thirteen. We're gathering
in New York City at Saint Paul and Saint Andrew
United Methodist Church on eighty sixth Street, and it's if
you want to get a ticket, it's gonna be www
dot gatheringforjusice dot org. Or you could support us. You
could sponsor somebody to attend on your behalf, or you

(01:51:50):
could make a donation. I mean, at this moment, like
I said, it's really going to take all of us.
We fund us and so we're hoping to celebrate together
and we would really love all of you to join
us again, help us carry this legacy forward. It belongs
to all of us and the generations to come.

Speaker 5 (01:52:06):
Absolutely com freence, Jordan. I appreciate it, Thank you so
very much, Thank you so.

Speaker 8 (01:52:12):
Much for having me, and thank you to everyone who
spoke today.

Speaker 5 (01:52:17):
Not a problem at all, all right, folks, that is
it for us. Let me think our panelers. We thank
Zabora and Niambi on the Congo, thanks so very much
of being with us. I shainly appreciate it. Thanks a bunch, y'all.
It's always the thing that we're doing here is all
always about the work, is always about supporting efforts. A

(01:52:38):
little bit earlier, I was not really earlier today, I
was attending an event Congressional Country Club where the Contractors
for Cancer they were actually finding raising one of a
correctoral cancer and I was invited to play a golf tournament, congressional.
And you know this is something that we don't obviously

(01:53:01):
talk a lot about. We know, of course, our dear
friend Chadwick Boseman passed away and so I had a
chance to catch it with one of the organizers, and
so I just talked about this golf tournament and what
they do to raise money to deal with the issue
of Colo Rich dog cancer. All right, so check this out.

Speaker 37 (01:53:19):
So tell us about c ac cac IS Contractors Against Cancer.
We're raising money for Polo record cancer. We read a
tremendous event the last two days, a concert, auction and
golf today congressional country problem. If you want to be involved, www,
Contractors Against Cancer all one.

Speaker 5 (01:53:34):
Word dot org all right, how long you been having there?

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
You been having the tournament?

Speaker 5 (01:53:37):
There's our second year, second year, second year, and so
this year raised how much?

Speaker 37 (01:53:41):
About seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars?

Speaker 5 (01:53:43):
Man, what's gonna be your goal for next year?

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
We're going for a million?

Speaker 5 (01:53:46):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:53:46):
Famillion?

Speaker 25 (01:53:47):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:53:48):
Then give us a correct spelling.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
First last name, Doug Riley, all right, l E.

Speaker 5 (01:53:52):
Wayan, got you entitled?

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
All right.

Speaker 37 (01:53:55):
I'm the chairman of the Contractors against Cancer group.

Speaker 5 (01:53:58):
There we go, all right, Doug is a man at
any words. But again they raised every hundred fifty thousand dollars.
It was great to see so many people out there,
folks I know, and again you know these efforts and
we talk about this all the time. Last week Alix
English had his golf tournament. Nancy Leeb mclin were done
so many different people and there's so many different organizations

(01:54:20):
and charities that are benefiting from this. And so this
was a huge one again for the second year, to
raise seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. And don't forget
if you are a brother or get a sister, get
your kolonoscopy, please get it done. Had mine done earlier
this year. Get your kylenosky be done. Please do not

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put it off. I don't care if you are a
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But again I was there and the brother approached me.
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Oakwood University got a new president, and I was going
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the one hundred and seven HBCUs, I've actually been the
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some stuff I wear on the show. But I saw
that again when we had when I saw their new
I saw their new I'm reading this thing right here.

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I saw their new president. So that's it right there.
So I'll fail. I wear somebody else shirt tomorrow. So
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