Diddy Sentenced, National Guard in Memphis, Trump Shutdown Day 3, Zohran Mamdani Speaks, Farmers Aid

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Hey, folks, Today's Friddy, I told her third twenty twenty five.
Coming up, I'm rolling my unfiltured streaming live of the
Black Start Network, the Fast National Guard. They are in Memphis,
and then white supremaces Stephen Miller. She stood before the
cameras and told cops, y'all can do whatever y'all want.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Y'all unleashed on Memphis.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
We'll talk with State Reversative Justin Peerston about the action
is taking place in Memphis, Nevada. Concas Stephen the horse
Ford joins US as the federal government shutdown continues Republicans
are hoping that Democrats are going to blink and buckle,
but they also are scared because Donald Trump has fully
embraced Product twenty twenty five. We knew he was lying

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during the campaign when he said he didn't even know
what it was. Also on today's show, we'll be joined
by the Democratic nominee for Mayor of New York, Tenney
Zoran Mmdani, to talk about his race and why he
wants to be the next mayor of New York and
what he will say to black New york Ers. Morgan

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Harper will talk Stember Johns report that didn't get released
because Chuck don't want it released to try to blame
the shutdown. Also, John Boy the Nations of Black Farmers
Association joins us all these white farmers that cry, oh
my god, we need some help.

Speaker 9 (03:56):
Donald Trump and.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Republicans are potentially putting together a fifty billion dollars welfare
package for these mostly white farmers.

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Sure it's a lot.

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We go coverage time to bring the farmer a rolling
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Speaker 3 (06:09):
Donald Trump's federal takeover of American cities continuous, this time
a Memphis. The so called Memphis Safe Task Force says
they've made ninety three arrests so far, taking twenty eight
guns off of the streets. To terms General Pam Bondi
claims in a big win, saying they're locking up dangerous offenders.
The heavy federal law enforcement, aided by National Guard troops,

(06:31):
are specifically hitting black and brown neighborhoods. The heart is
sparking real concerns about racial profiling. Activists say the heavy
law enforcement is not effectively at all curbing crimes. Joining
us right now, A state representative justin Pearson, glad to
have you on the show, and so you'll have been Montre.
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Give us a sense of what's happening there on the ground.

Speaker 15 (06:55):
Look, we are dealing with a federal occupation of our
community that is wanted by the people who live here,
by our community members who want to see investment from
the federal government, not wanting to see a military occupation
of our community. A lot of people are terrified, and
a lot of students aren't going to school, a lot
of parents aren't allowing their kids to go. And I

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think we're also going to see an economic effect. Not
a lot of people are going into our businesses downtown,
and this narrative of black criminality is what they're being
and what they're pushing. We even had a white nationalist,
Stephen Miller here just a couple of days ago, with
Pam Bundy and p Hegseth alongside our governor Bill Lee.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
We know what this is about.

Speaker 15 (07:32):
It has nothing to do with crime, has everything to
do with control of our community. And we don't want
military occupation. What we want is poverty eradication. What we
want is the beauty and the belovedness of our city
to be shown, not the mythology and the pain that
they're exacting upon us.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
And to that point, I mean, the reason he's doing
this because the Republican Governor Bill Lee is allowing him
to do so.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
And we're going to play the clip in a second.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
You had that white supremacist Stephen Miller they're in Memphis,
who literally said to the cops, you are now unleashed.
I mean, and so we're talking about the same police
force that we saw a significant death of Tyree Nichols.
We see how Donald Trump has no issue partnering cops

(08:22):
who beat and kill people.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
So this right here is a major major issue. When
they come in and say, oh, we're gonna let you
do whatever you want to do.

Speaker 15 (08:33):
I mean, it's one hundred percent true. We had Tyree
Nichols killed by Memphis police officers two years ago. Our
relationship with law enforcement isn't always a good one, particularly
when you think about black and brown communities. Oftentimes it's
not a good one. In our community suffer from these
interactions that don't have to happen. And so when you
have state troopers being sent by Governor Bill Lee that

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is intended to increase the amount of stops that are
happening on the highways, amount of stops that are happening
on the roads. You have to realize those interactions don't
always end good. We think about Tyree, we think about
Sandra Bland. What was a routine traffic stop ends up
in someone losing their life? A traffic stop for people
who are black and brown in this country is not
the same as the stop for somebody who is white.

Speaker 9 (09:15):
In addition to this right, we did not enter.

Speaker 15 (09:18):
Into a consent decree with the Department of Justice after
the findings a pattern and practice showed that the Memphis
Police Department historically targeted poor, lower income communities. We have
so many deficiencies already as it relates to our law enforcement,
so now to have the federal government coming in and
taking over in essence, law enforcement responsibilities, giving arrest, ensuring

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that people are going to have to have these court days,
hurting a jail system that's already strangulated by the lack
of resources. At two to one popular is creating more
problems than solving it. And again, if people really think
this administration cared anything about crime, why did all of
the January sixth ers get partoned? The President the United
States and in itself is a white supremacist, but he's

(10:02):
also a thirty four count convicted felon. This has absolutely
nothing to do with crime. That is how they are
starting the conversation. But we need to realize they are
going to be weaponizing the military, weaponizing federal resources during
the next elections, during the presidential election, and this is
how democracy gets destroyed. This is how fascism and authoritarianism

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gets normalized. And we again, just like in the nineties,
when we were offered black community were offered you get
the crime bill and the three strikes law. We're being told, well,
we're going to offer you military occupation. But we're never
being offered resources to get kids more programming. We're never
being offered resources to make sure no one goes to
sleep hungry at night. We're never offered resources for affordable

(10:44):
housing or healthcare, actually taking care of our veterans. We're
always being deprived of the very things that can prevent
crimes from happening in the first place.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Absolutely, and to the point many us made, Okay, let's
say this surge last for two weeks.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
A month, Okay, what are you going to do after that?

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Are they willing to actually pony up the resources that
will be needed to not just have a police response,
but to deal with the other issues that we know
impac and reduce crime.

Speaker 15 (11:15):
Root causes is the conversation I find Republicans, Conservatives, and
people who are wanting to be ignorant about what we
are experiencing, don't want to talk about the root causes.
Isn't that people just need to be more mentors. It's
that poverty is the root cause of all crime. I
was talking to a group of students today and when

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I asked them, what does the root cause of crime,
each and every one of them yell back poverty because
that's the problem. Two thirds of the people who live
in Memphis and Shelby County are living underneath the median income.
One in three of our children are going to sleep
living underneath the poverty line in our district. Poverty is

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a crime that is being committed by the federal government,
by the state government against the people who live in
this community. And in addition to the fact that the
economic opportunity is not here, we have had this governor
who has been governor for seven years now going on
eight years, refuse to pass or support a single law
that would reduce the accessibility of guns in our streets.

(12:19):
And so when I have advocated for gun violence prevention
laws such as red flag laws, awaiting period banning assault weapons,
this governor has not used any of his political or
social capital to ensure that those bills got passed. He's
interested in giving billionaires the ability to send their kids
to whatever school they want with private school vouchers, but
he is not interested or invested in actually supporting our community.

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And so the beauty and the joy and the culture
and the love that we have here gets harmed by
policies and practices of Republican administrations that want to perpetuate
one amid the black criminality, but to create crime by
not passing laws that would prevent it from happening in
the first place, and then coming back to us and saying, well,

(13:04):
here's the only thing that we can do over police you.
The only thing that we can do is give you
a military occupation. Yeah, I know you want value this
intervention program money, but we need to cut that. That's
what Donald Trump did in this and bill. But that's
not what we're asking for. That's not what we need.
We want resources to be able to prevent crimes from
happening to be able to lift people out of poverty,

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to provide housing and healthcare, and give everyone access to
opportunities that they deserve. But that is not what is
being offered. And when that is not happening, we have
to ask ourselves why why do they want to perpetuate
this myth? Why do they want to continue to perpetuate
policies that are dangerous and that are harmful towards us?
And it is for incarceration. There are these private prisons
and all these other things that they're ultimately benefiting from.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
So I do get a crack, get a kick out
of them talking about and praising guns be taken off
the streets, But then they don't want to do anything
to take guns off the streets.

Speaker 15 (13:58):
It is the most significant irony of this whole thing.
They're counting the number of guns they're taking off the streets,
but they're not counting how many guns people have gotten
access to by the hundreds of bills that they've passed
to make it easier for people to access firearms legally
and illegally. Now in Tennessee, eighteen year olds can go

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and buy ar fifteens.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
They have made it.

Speaker 15 (14:23):
Thirty thousand guns have been stolen from cars since Republicans
took the legislature and passed laws that made it so
that you could have a firearm leave your firearm in
your car. Thirty thousand guns have been stolen since then.
So they take no accountability for the predicament we find
ourselves in. But the only solution that we are given
is now we need to overpolish you. There's no conversation

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about the root causes. There's no conversation about the fact
that they did.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
This to us.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Well, that is the case, and so stay on the case.
Sate Representative Justin Pearson appreciated. Good to see us ALC
this weekend.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
Good to see you too.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Let's keep fighting.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
Yes, sir, folks going to a break. We come back.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
We're going to talk to Congress and Steven a Horseman.
But the government shut down. We're got to talk about
Trump now trying to bail the farmers out with billions.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Of taxpayer money in welfare costs by his tears.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
And also an alder woman in Chicago gets arrested for
asking ice in a hospital do they have a sign?

Speaker 5 (15:27):
Warren? They literally arrest an elected official.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
We're gotta talk about all of that right here Roland
Martin unfilcher on the Black Shut Network back in the morning.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
In my book The Power to Persist, I share eight
simple yet powerful habits, a blueprint for transforming obstacles and
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(16:02):
bring that blueprint to life.

Speaker 10 (16:09):
Hatred on the Streets a horrific scene white nationalists rally
that descended into deadly violence of.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
White people are losing their their minds.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
As an angry pro Trump mob storm to the US capital,
the Ship, We're about to see.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
The lies where I call white minority resistance.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
You have seen white folks in this country who simply
cannot tolerate black folks voting.

Speaker 16 (16:36):
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of
violent denial.

Speaker 9 (16:41):
This is part of American history.

Speaker 17 (16:42):
Every time that people of color have made progress, whether
real or symbolic, there has been but Carold Anderson at
every university calls white rage as a backlash.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
This is the wrath of the proud Boys and the
Boogaaloo boys America.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
There's going to be more of this.

Speaker 10 (16:59):
This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and
its attitudes because of the fear of white people.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
The pee that they're taking our job, they're taking our resources,
they're taking our women.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
This is white people.

Speaker 18 (17:28):
Said the quiet part out loud. Black votes are a threat,
so they erased them. After the Supreme Court gutted the
Voting Rights Act in twenty thirteen, Republican legislatures moved fast
new voter id laws, polling place shutdowns, purges of black
voters from the rolls. Trump's Justice Department didn't stop it.

(17:49):
They joined in. In twenty eighteen, his DOJ backed Ohio's
voter purge system, a scheme that disproportionately erased Black voters.
Their goal erased black vote and political power. Yeah, that happened.
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Speaker 7 (18:28):
Next on the Black Table with me Greg Carr, an
hour of living history with doctor Richard Maria Kelsey, thinker builder,
author and one of the most important and impactful elders
in the African American community. He reflects on his full
and rich life and shares his incomparable wisdom about our past, present,
and future.

Speaker 19 (18:48):
I'm n genius saying that my uncle was virginius, my
brother was a genius, my neighbor was a genius.

Speaker 20 (18:55):
I think we ought to drill that in ourselves and
move ahead rather than believe.

Speaker 9 (19:00):
That I got it.

Speaker 8 (19:01):
That's next on the Black Table here on the Black
Star Network.

Speaker 12 (19:07):
This week, on the Other Side of Change, we are
talking about our lost star, our luminary, our guide, Asada Chakur,
who recently passed away in Cuba. We're gonna unpack her legacy.

Speaker 21 (19:20):
I refuse to allow ASADA's legacy to die before children
that aren't even born, like our babies that aren't even.

Speaker 11 (19:28):
Born, must know her and must know her. And that
road map is going to get us closer to liberation.

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Speaker 3 (20:25):
Folks's Day three of the governments shut down, Still no
deal in sight. Republicans, they say, Democrats, they hope they're
going to buckle. Also, Donald Trump, it's amazing he now
acknowledges Project twenty twenty five. Remember when he said he
knew nothing about it? Joining us right now is Congress
and Stepen Horsford of Nevada Congress is glad to have

(20:47):
you here. Republicans that spent a lot of time trying
to brand this shutdown has been all about the Democrats,
but polling data shows that they are the ones who
are bearing the brunt of the heat for or this shutdown.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
It's theirs. They have to own it.

Speaker 17 (21:04):
One hundred percent. The Republicans control the House, the Senate,
and the White House. They control the votes in determining
whether or not their budget could pass. They knew that
they did.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
Not have the votes.

Speaker 17 (21:19):
In fact, their own budget got fewer votes than the
Democratic alternative when it went to the Senate. I'm starting
to think that this is more about Speaker Johnson wanting
to protect Donald Trump from the full release of Epstein's
files than he is about protecting the American people and

(21:42):
our right to affordable healthcare. Leader Jeffries and House Democrats
have called three specific things. Cancel the cuts, the Medicaid
and medicare lower cost on middle class families and save
healthcare nothing more, nothing less. And that is what we
are fighting for in this moment, not just what we're

(22:05):
fighting againt.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Also we talk about fighting in this moment, you also
fighting misinformation. You're fighting people. And I'm listening to some
of these people. I saw a clip last night I'm
gonna play in the second Steven A. Smith was on
this series Extent radio show talking about how well you
know inflation and as bad as it used to be
and we haven't really feeling it, and how the economy
hasn't created and I'm like, what the hell are you

(22:28):
talking about. Donald Trump has had two consecutive awful months
of job growth. Biden Harris didn't have one in forty
eight months. You also look at inflation higher today than
it was a year ago, higher than it was last month,
meat prices up. We used to talk about a housing issue,

(22:49):
so I'm like, what world are you living in?

Speaker 17 (22:55):
Well, as you know, I represent Las Vegas and we
are confronted with what's called the Trump plump right now.
And since the beginning of this year, tourism has been
down double digits. We have seen room occupancy down. We
are now seeing an increase in the rate of unemployment,

(23:17):
particularly with our hospitality workers. And this isn't only affecting
tourism because of Donald Trump's trade wars against Canada. It's
affecting small businesses. These tariffs, which are taxes that Americans pay,
are actually driving up the cost on everything from housing

(23:38):
to healthcare prescription drugs. Now he wants to put one
hundred percent tariff on that. At a time when families,
middle class families feel like things are getting harder for
them and more expensive, this administration's policies are actually inflicting
more pain on the American people. Is why House Democrats

(24:01):
have said enough is enough. It's time to lower the costs,
cancel the cuts, and save healthcare.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
To that particular point, I was looking at.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
New York Times had a story just yesterday talking about
how Vegas has been getting hammered. It said, of the
five million international visitors that come to Las Vegas every year,
one point four million of.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
Those folks are from Canada.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
And Donald Trump pissed the Canadians off, and so the
Canadians said, HOWA, We're not going to sit here and
come to your Countrysian Asian travelers are not coming. So
his his tars and his abrasive, nasty, despicable nature has
said to international tourists, you know what, we have options.

(24:55):
We don't have to go to Las Vegas or go
to Miami or Lost Angeles or New York City. And
so the travel business help down billions of dollars in
twenty twenty five. I've seen some essence may say we
may be down some twenty billion dollars this year.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (25:16):
Well, when Donald Trump refers to Canada as the fifty
first state and he inflicts trade wars on our most
trusted trading partner, Canada. Look, Canadians who come to Las
Vegas stay longer, they spend more money, and they get
out and don't just do things on the Las Vegas Strip.
They get out into the other parts of our great state,

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contributing to our outdoor tourism economy and the small businesses.

Speaker 9 (25:45):
I want people to know this.

Speaker 17 (25:47):
We're about to host the HBCU Classic in Las Vegas
on October twenty fourth against Gramlin State and Jackson State.
It's one of the biggest HBCU Classics and it's going
to be played at the Raiders Stadium. So despite Donald
Trump's infliction of pain on the badens and our tourism economy,

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we are doing everything that we can and we're resilient
to make sure that people know that they're welcome. In fact,
Leader Jeffries just appointed me to be a member on
the US Canadian Inter Parliamentary Group to help restore some
of our relationships with our Canadian partners because of how

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important their role is.

Speaker 9 (26:31):
And it's not just to Las Vegas.

Speaker 17 (26:33):
We're dealing with the fact that the World Cup is
coming to the United States. We have the Olympics coming
to the United States in twenty twenty six, and the
twenty fifth anniversary of our nation's founding. So at a
time when we should be working on making people feel welcome,
the Trump administration is doing everything to make them feel unwelcome.

(26:57):
That is why we have to put a check on
Donald Trump and these capitulating Republicans in Congress who continued
to bend the knee to this tyrant, this person who
thinks that he's a king. Well you're not, Donald Trump.
We have a co equal branch of government. It's called

(27:18):
the Congress. You don't get to roll over us. Just
like you don't get to roll over the American people,
and it's time we put a check on Donald.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Trump real quick.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Le sco to my panelet from some questions for Congress
with Stephen Horseman, Matt Mannling, Silasturney at Corporus Christie, what
you got?

Speaker 22 (27:35):
My only question, Congressman is just in terms of what
the American people that are not in Vegas might not
be seeing, How major are the effects of the Trump
tariffs like you were talking about with Canada and Canadian
tourism being down, How major is then felt there in
Las Vegas? And what kind of metrics have you seen

(27:56):
that show exactly how these policies are ruinous for the
American people.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
So thank you.

Speaker 17 (28:03):
Just so, international travel is a third of all travel
into Las Vegas, and Canadian travel is a third of
the international travel.

Speaker 8 (28:13):
So we're down over.

Speaker 17 (28:15):
Twelve percent just since the beginning of this year. This
didn't happen last year. This isn't a holdover. This is
a direct effect of Donald Trump's trade wars with Canada
and his tariff policies which have been erratic. And it's
not only on tourism.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
I represent the rural.

Speaker 17 (28:35):
Part of Nevada and I was out in perumpt the
rural part and talking to small business owners and they
also have seen a decline from Canadian travelers into the
rural areas. Today, I spent the entire day talking to
constituents about the effects of these health care cuts that

(28:56):
are devastating to our communities in every respect, from rural
hospitals to community hospitals, to birthing centers and other facilities
that are being impacted because of the cuts to Medicaid,
the cuts to the enhanced premium tax credits. And that's
why Democrats have said, we'll work with you to reopen

(29:18):
the government one that ensures that we save healthcare and
make sure that it remains affordable for the people of
Nevada and all over the country.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Join us right now is Michael m Hotep, host Africanation
Networks out Detroit.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Michael, you question.

Speaker 23 (29:37):
On today we have seen the Trump administration that Donald
Trump withhold two point one billion dollars in infrastructure project
money for Chicago, eighteen billion dollars in transit funding for
New York, etc. We see them using economic pressure on

(29:58):
top of need more layoffs. Has there been any talk
among your Caucus to organize economic boycotts against certain corporations
that have financed the Trump administration, have financed Republicans, etc.
Because they're trying to weaken the resistance with economic pressure,

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and we have to meet that with economic pressure against
them as well.

Speaker 11 (30:26):
Well.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
That's a great point.

Speaker 17 (30:27):
And the fact I was just with the Executive Leadership Council,
a council that really focuses on black voices in corporate
America from the boardrooms to the c suite, And you're
one hundred percent right. We have to continue to apply
pressure to fight fire with fire. The fact that Donald
Trump and his administration would seek retribution against the American

(30:54):
people and American cities because he doesn't like the fact
that Congress didn't approve his partisan budget that cuts healthcare
is completely unacceptable. But this is why we have to
put a check on this administration. People have been saying, well,
why now, why are Democrats drawing the line in the sand?

Speaker 9 (31:14):
Now?

Speaker 17 (31:14):
He's been dismantling federal agency and defunding programs since the
beginning of this administration. In fact, he lied about not
knowing anything about Project twenty twenty five. Roland Martin and
other people tried to remind people that he was the
mastermind behind Project twenty twenty five. And what did he

(31:35):
say yesterday? He's going to put Russell Bolt in charge
of the implementation of om B and to make sure
that Project twenty twenty five continues. So he lied to
us during the campaign.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
He's lying to us now.

Speaker 17 (31:51):
And it is time that we make sure that everyone
knows you're either with us and the American people or
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Speaker 5 (32:03):
All right?

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Uh, do we have audio do a candice? Okay, so
we're gonna work through that as well. All right, college
college horfor the last point here, So I just saw
so Speaker Mike Johnson has announced y'all are not going
to be in session next week.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
Did y'all just come off like six seven weeks? And like, well,
like what the hell? What is he scared of?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
And I take it he also still hasn't seated. Uh
the woman from Arizona who won her race, What.

Speaker 17 (32:33):
The hell is ad Alita out of auDA Alita Garhava.
She won her race overwhelmingly. The Republicans who won their
special elections were sworn in during performace session. He refused
to recognize the Democratic leadership when we tried to call
for her to be sworn in on Tuesday, And you're

(32:56):
one hundred percent right. Speaker Johnson canceled votes on Monday
and Tuesday of this week leading up to this.

Speaker 8 (33:03):
Shutdown deadline on midnight.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
He didn't.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
He's on vacation. He's a wall.

Speaker 17 (33:09):
Meanwhile, House Democrats have been here, ready to work and
ready to reopen the government while protecting healthcare. But I
also want to just say, I think this is more
about Speaker Johnson protecting Donald Trump from the full release
of the Epstein files. Because Representative Grijalva, when she's sworn in,

(33:30):
which she will be, she will be the two hundred
and eighteenth signature on the discharge petition for the full
release of the Epstein files. So what are you hiding,
Speaker Johnson? Bring us back into session, allow Democrats to
do our job, or get the hell out of the
way if you won't do your job.

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Speaker 5 (38:30):
First Friday of the month.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
We normally have jobs numbers, but all of a sudden,
with Donald Trump and the Bureau Labor Statistics, we don't
have any. Now they're they're blaming the governments shut down.
We all know that's bullshit. Uh, it's really because they
know it would be a third consecutive horrible month. Morgan
Harper joins us right now, glad to have you here

(38:53):
talking about this here y'all. You know we're always sitting here,
you know, breaking these things down. We look at these
number Morgan, and so we don't have the official numbers,
but talk about ADP for folks who don't even know
what that is. Explain what ADP is and what if
that show to give us a sense of how horrible

(39:15):
Donald Trump's.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
Job market is.

Speaker 25 (39:18):
Yeah, so you're exactly right, Roland. Because of the well
going off of the current situation. Because of the shutdown,
the government hasn't been funded. That does include the Bureau
of labor statistics, which usually produces that full set of data,
that's the full non farm payroll data that we usually
talk about. Because that's not available, there are other sources

(39:41):
of data that we can look at to get a
sense of where the economy is at. One of those
is ADP, so that's the company that manages a lot
of payroll and that's a subset of that overall payroll picture,
and so it's not as complete, it's not as instructive
as that big government data set, but it does still
give us a sense of what's happening. And the ADP

(40:04):
data from this past month shows that expectations for even
a modest level of growth in the economy with jobs
it was forty five thousand were expected did not happen.
So we actually saw a net loss of thirty two thousand.
So that's what the ADP data was showing us. But
there's also other data sources that folks look at to

(40:25):
get a sense of where the economy might be at
besides this BLS data, so and those also are showing
like a really mixed picture. So one is this manufacturing
Purchaser Purchasing Managers Index PMI that just kind of shows
in the manufacturing industry, how much buying is happening. And
as we've talked about before, manufacturing, that's where we're supposed

(40:48):
to be, according to the administration, seeing a lot of
growth from their policies. And that also is showing really
mixed information that there's not a lot of purchasing that's
happening due to the impact of the tariffs and so
not showing that that sector is really experiencing a lot
of growth right now.

Speaker 11 (41:08):
People are kind of like taking it very easy.

Speaker 25 (41:10):
Then we also have this other data set that just
shows how much hiring is happening, usually in September, you know,
if through the summer, this would be when a lot
of companies are starting to bring people back on.

Speaker 11 (41:20):
This is this other data set called Challenger.

Speaker 25 (41:22):
Gray Christmas that's also showing that there really isn't that
same level of higher levels of hiring that happens in September.
And then the final thing that I would point people
to to give us a sense of where things are
at is just the consumer sentiment. So that data did
come out in terms of, you know, with the consumer
price index consumer sentiment, and it's showing that a lot

(41:44):
of consumers are not feeling that optimistic about the economy,
that they aren't feeling like they are going to be
able to, you know, make a lot of purchases that
because of all of this uncertainty. And so that's another
sign of again just this relative effect of a lot
of uncertainty of the economy. We aren't seeing a lot

(42:04):
of private sector growth, the area that had been providing
some job growth. In government that definitely is not the
case right now because of the administration's policies and because
of what has happened, which is, you know, because of
the shutdown, the administration using that as a pretext to
do further federal layoffs, which is only going to continue
to decrease the amount of growth that we see in

(42:26):
the in the government job sector.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
You know what's shameful here, what's shameful here, Morgan, is
that they spend all this time all we're just gonna
be winning. There's lots of winning, winning, winning, and they're
so into they're they're they're lying, They're not in denial,
they're lying. This idea that the terrors are are not
having a negative impact is beyond stupid. And Fox Business

(42:49):
in Fox News is trying all they can not to
tell people what the hell is going on. But you
now got so many farmers Arkansas, Nebraska with now whining
and complaining because China's like, yeah, we're not buying your soybeans.
Then Trump and the same MAGA people who are so

(43:10):
against foreign aid, Oh, Trump bails out what Argentina? What
twenty billion dollars?

Speaker 5 (43:16):
And then what do they do? They turn around cut
a deal with the Chinese, and so as one farmer going,
what the hell we bailed out my competitor.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
And I'm like, guess what you voted for it hashtag
We tried to tell you.

Speaker 25 (43:31):
Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the Argentina example, because
one thing we hear a lot to justify some of
these policies from the administration on the that we've been
hearing since the beginning doze these layoffs, the tax cuts
that passed through that big bill that are benefiting corporations
and the most wealthy, is well, we've got to really

(43:52):
we've got to tighten things up. Government spending just got
out of control under Biden administration and all of these
established politicians, et cetera. And so to say that not
that that's true anyway, right, But to say that that's
your reason that you want to really rein in the
government spending and then take twenty billion dollars and give

(44:12):
it to a country in Argentina that is being run
by someone that has no track record of successfully managing
a government or an economy, it would be it would
be laughable if it weren't so tragic, because this is
our money, and we have people in this country that
are getting completely played and it's not just going to
impact them, it is going to impact all of us.

(44:34):
And so you know where we go from here is
another theme of our monthly discussions on this front. I
don't know that we have a lot of clarity on that,
but there is no denying that this is a complete boondoggle.
This is just straight up corruption that we have seen
from this administration and it's going to continue to have
really negative effects for a lot of folks throughout the country.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Now we have news that, oh guess what, which we
knew from last time, Republicans preparing a welfare package for
farmers that's going to be anywhere from thirty five to
fifty billion dollars. We're going to talk to John Boyd
a little bit later about that, but we're dealing with
that too.

Speaker 25 (45:13):
Yeah, and you know, it's kind of similar to what
we're seeing happen with some of these private companies, like
for example, I don't know if you saw this week
that Trump announced his Trump RX and deal with Pfizer
that you know, very into cutting these deals and one
off deals with certain companies. And here we're going to

(45:33):
have a favored population that we're going to decide to
cut a deal for. That is not any way to
run a country, a government, and you can't sustain that
and so, and who's going to get left behind in
all of this. It is going to be regular working people.
So you know, our best effort here or time spent,

(45:55):
is just making sure I think that people understand all
of these contradictions, all of the hypocrisy. And I think
we're starting to see this reflected in some polling. We're
younger people, for example, are feeling you know, those that
maybe were a little bit open minded about Trump are
now kind of like, wait a second, what is this.
This is not trying to make government better in any way.

Speaker 10 (46:15):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Well, absolutely, it's laughable to see. And again, these idiots
are just falling forward as they are and I wanted
to get I was so quick trying to get to
the title of Morgan of course, the director of Policy
and Advocacy at the American Economic Liberties Project at Club
of Ohio.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Morgan, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 11 (46:32):
Good to see you, Rolin.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
All right, then, folks, going to a break. We come back.

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From folks.

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He's leading the polls. He won a New York City
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We've got a lot to talk about with him. We'll
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Speaker 3 (49:43):
It was did his day in court to find out
what his fate was going to be. Uh, And of
course you get victim impact statements his children testified.

Speaker 23 (49:53):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
He of course was a letter to the judge as well.

Speaker 27 (49:58):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
And it was a lot happening today in court. Candace
Kelly Legal Analysts, She joined us right now. Candas was
in the court room. She'd been following this trial from
the beginning. So, Candace, something crazy happened when the assistant
used attorney announced that Diddy had booked some speaking engagements.

(50:20):
Blew up on social when I looked it up. It
was a reentry program that Happy's listed and it was
a letter they sent to the judge basically said all
these things he's going to do for people in the
re entry area. That still was beyond stupid. How in
the hell just your we're gonna get to the sentence.

(50:41):
How on the hell did his attorneys allow that to
get in where one of the speaking engagements was literally
Monday in Miami at like six pm.

Speaker 10 (50:52):
You know, this was really a day of clarifications all around.
That is really what this day was about. And I
think that when that happened, when the the let's say
Christy Slavic, who prosecuting attorney, when she got into it,
it seemed strange that he would have this speaking engagement,
but it was clarified that, like you said, it was

(51:14):
more of an engagement that had to do with helping
and bettering the community.

Speaker 11 (51:17):
But still it just didn't look good.

Speaker 10 (51:20):
It'd been possible that he would think that he would
actually get off, and it just wasn't a good way
to kind of enter into the court and say, yeah,
he's got a speaking engagement, like you know, he was
going to entertain all of a sudden on Mondays soon.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Right, Like the judge literally is gonna say, you know what,
I'm gonna gie a probation, did it?

Speaker 5 (51:42):
You can go here and go.

Speaker 10 (51:42):
Home exactly exactly, And we all knew that that is
not the way that it was going to go, especially
with you had the prosecuting attorneys wanting what eleven years
and three months than on the other side you had
the defense team wanting fourteen months. There's just way overall
that he was going to be walking out anywhere, not

(52:04):
with this judge being a life judge and wanting to
continue to have respect from his peers. No, he was
going to give him a sentence where he would not
be walking out. That certainly was the expectation at the beginning,
and it certainly was the expectation as court unfolded, regardless
of what the defense put up. It seemed as though
the judge was leaningly meaning towards a sentence where he

(52:26):
was not going to be going home this weekend at all.

Speaker 11 (52:29):
And that is exactly what happened.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
So did his team one in fourteen months. The prosecution
wanted eleven years. Walk us through how the judge arrived
at four years two months?

Speaker 10 (52:40):
Well, you know what the judge said, and as I said,
it was a day of really trying to figure out,
you know, you know, was it A or was it B?
The A or B meaning do we count the way
that Sean Combs acted in that we heard in court
even though he wasn't convicted of anything having to do
with abuse for example, right, he didn't get the sex.

Speaker 11 (53:02):
Trafficking, that sex trafficking.

Speaker 10 (53:04):
And involved force or co origin, Well that wasn't on
the table because he was clear of those particular charges.

Speaker 11 (53:11):
But the question became for the court.

Speaker 10 (53:13):
And what the judge made very very clear is that
even though he wasn't convicted of anything having to do
with domestic violence or force, we can still consider the
judge the judge and the courts can still consider what
his behavior was and how he came off inside of court,
and those particular actions can be considered in this sentencing phase,

(53:35):
and no matter what the defense said, you know, uh
that you know, he wasn't convicted of these crimes.

Speaker 11 (53:41):
Why are we considering this. He's done so much good
in the community. He's an icon. He started a program
behind bars where.

Speaker 10 (53:48):
He's brought all types of people together to learn how
to better themselves.

Speaker 11 (53:51):
All of these details just didn't matter.

Speaker 10 (53:54):
The fact that he was violent, which is what the
defense acquiesced to, the fact that that he was of
prostitution and then and also was a drug addict. Again,
the defense acquiesced to that and said, yes, he was
a full fledged drug addict.

Speaker 11 (54:08):
All of that came into play.

Speaker 10 (54:10):
The judge considered it, and he certainly considered it in descendancy,
and that's how he arrived at this.

Speaker 11 (54:16):
Now, the defense all along was saying, even.

Speaker 10 (54:18):
Up until last week, Yeah, but he actually didn't have
sex with anybody involved.

Speaker 11 (54:23):
He really was just a lawyer. He just kind of,
you know, managed things that that was going on.

Speaker 10 (54:29):
And the judge to that in his filing said, well,
that's just like saying someone runs a brothel and they're
okay because they didn't have sex with everybody that was
in the rooms at the brothel. It wouldn't matter you
run a brothel, You're still in trouble. So that he
said was a faulty argument. So that's really how the
judge came to this conclusion. But I want to say
this Roland, that it was an interesting day because it

(54:53):
was a slower day than people expected in terms of
who we heard from.

Speaker 11 (54:57):
At one point, somebody next to me wrote, it feels
like church.

Speaker 10 (55:01):
And it did feel like church, because we heard from
somebody by the name of reverend doctor Gary Johnson, and
he talked about how and he's from Miami, and he
said that he knew Sean Colmes, and he said that
if you let him go, Judge, if you practice leniency,
I will personally take him under my wing. I will personally,

(55:21):
you know, basically nurse him back. I will manage him.
I will see to it that he is going to
meet all of your highest expectations. And and and someone
else came up and they talked about a program that
that they were part of, and they reminisced about their
program and how they changed people all there behind bars,
and they felt like that Shaun's journey was similar to

(55:45):
his journey. So again it felt a little bit like church.
We heard a lot of the testimony recounted, and then
as you said, we heard from the children. We heard
their passionate please, We heard how they you know, his
two year old would be missing a father.

Speaker 11 (56:00):
There were a lot of tears.

Speaker 10 (56:02):
All of the children spoke of course he as a
two year old, but they also spoke on behalf of
the two year old saying, listen, I know what it's
like not to have a mother.

Speaker 11 (56:11):
We don't want our two year old sister not having
a father.

Speaker 10 (56:14):
They were very, very impassion. We also saw an eleven
minute video.

Speaker 11 (56:19):
It was it was kind of like a promo video Roland.

Speaker 10 (56:22):
It was you know, sean out in the community over
the years, talking to kids, opening up schools, running the marathon.
This eleven minute video was very interesting, very out of
the ordinary from the times that I've been in court,
kind of promoted who he was as this person, as
this icon, kind of a step to the left of

(56:43):
what we normally see. But the judge led everything in,
which is why you know, even though I got to
the court at six am, we just got out at
about five something. It was a long day because we
heard from so many people and again saw promotional videos
and heard arguments from many, many people. What was key

(57:04):
was that we heard from Sean colmbs though for ten minutes,
and he spoke.

Speaker 11 (57:10):
He was collected. He was the last person that we
heard from.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
Roland.

Speaker 10 (57:14):
I will say that it was very powerful, but I
think that the judge in his assessment of him, just
didn't believe him.

Speaker 11 (57:24):
Sean. He stood up.

Speaker 10 (57:28):
And he said, you know, I want to personally apologize.
I don't take lightly what happened. I want to apologize
to my family. I want to apologize to Jane. I'm
sorry for bringing her into this mess, he said. He
said that disgusting video that people saw him beating Cassie
triggered a lot of people. He said, it's a burden

(57:51):
I will forever Carrie. He said it was disgusting.

Speaker 11 (57:54):
I'm quoting.

Speaker 10 (57:55):
He said it was shameful, sick. He said, I was
sick from drugs. I was out of control. I needed help.

Speaker 11 (58:01):
I know better. I was taught better. I mean. He
went on and on.

Speaker 10 (58:05):
He spoke to his children, specifically told them that he
was humble to his core. He said, I hate myself
right now. I'm stripped down to nothing. I apologize to
my children. I fell to y'all as a father. I'm sorry.
You deserve better.

Speaker 9 (58:20):
Mom.

Speaker 10 (58:21):
I'm sorry you taught me better. I mean, he turned around,
you looked everybody in their eyes. He just kept emotionally
saying I am sorry, I'm sorry. He talked about how
he failed his community. He said that he grew up
wanting to send an example and all that he could
do that was his mission, and he quote got lost

(58:41):
a couple of times. He took some deep breaths, and
he said, listen, you're honored. If I'm given a chance
to change people, I'm going to prove to you that
I can do it. He he just said he wanted
a chance. He said, I know you want to make
me an example. I want to be the example of
someone who can go out and really turn themselves around.

(59:01):
He ended the day, and then the judge eventually gave
his sentence, as we all know, for fifty months and
then also a five hundred thousand dollars fine and rolling
five years probation.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
Last point, he's already sure how much time in jail.

Speaker 11 (59:16):
What's that he's already served where we are at thirteen.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
Months, so really he will be serving another three years.

Speaker 10 (59:24):
Yeah, and then you have to take off maybe you know,
ten months or so, simply because federal sentences they only
serve about eighty five percent of the time.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Got it all right, Cannus, We certainly appreciate you breaking
down for it.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
Thanks a lot, all right, thank you?

Speaker 3 (59:36):
Rolling, All right, folks, we're gonna chat about we'll tell
this after the Mom Donnie interview. We should go to
a quick break and then we'll have the New York
City mayor Canada next.

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bring that blueprint to life.

Speaker 25 (01:00:21):
I am Swing Cash Basketball Hall of Famer, and you're
watching Roland Martin unfiltered.

Speaker 9 (01:00:29):
Hmmmmmmmmmmm, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
He shocking book establishment when he won the New York
City mayoral primary race a few months ago. Now, Zora
Man Donnie is trying to be elected mayor in the
general election.

Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Incumbent Mayor Eric Adams dropped out earlier this week, saying
he didn't have the resources to do so.

Speaker 26 (01:01:11):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
And so mam Donnie is going to be running against
the man who he beat in the primary, former New
York State Governor Andrew Cuomo, and of course Curtis Sliwa
of course on the Republican side as well. Zoran mam
Donnie joined us right now on Roland Martin unphilt you
glad to have you here first and foremost, let's get

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let's get right to it. In the primary, I mean
you you executed a strategy that obviously worked.

Speaker 26 (01:01:41):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
And I've heard from a number of different people who
said they were concerned that you did not target or
appeal to African Americans, and talking to others, they said, well,
you had several black candidates in the race, uh, and
they likely were going to be driving that particular vote.
Was that was that your strategy that, hey, I need

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to figure out what my core base is, win the primary,
and then I will appeal to a broader base of
voters towards the general.

Speaker 16 (01:02:10):
No, we've actually been looking to speak to African American
voters from the very beginning of our race. I think
one of the major challenges was that when I started
this race, I was probably about one percent in the polls,
and for a lot of New Yorkers when they heard
about me, the first question was who. And so it
took many, many months until I could get into my
first church, which was in February. But from that point on,

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I was in churches pretty much every single weekend, by
the end of the campaign, about two every Sunday. And
I found that for many New Yorkers, our message of
affordability it spoke to them, especially as what we're going
through right now is in many ways the reverse of
the great migration we are losing. We have lost about
two hundred thousand Black New Yorkers in the last few
decades alone. And yet what I knew that when I

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spoke to those same older black New Yorkers, that for
them it wasn't necessarily a race between me and Andrew Quama.
It was in fact a race between me and Mario,
because I would hear his name again and again that
you know, I'm voting for Mario's son or Mario was
good to me. And I don't begrudge those voters because
there's a long history there. And now my job is
to introduce myself and the plan that we actually have

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for New Yorkers across the five boroughs.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
All that particular point you talked about church's older voters.
When you look at the numbers, you did appeal to
younger African American voters and obviously older voters, you know,
hardcore Democratic voters. And to your point, knowing the Quobo name,
what message are you saying to them? But also how

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are you reaching Black voters who don't go to church,
because the reality is that infrastructure today is that not
the same as it was ten, fifteen, twenty years ago
where you can largely reach black voters through churches.

Speaker 16 (01:03:49):
Absolutely, I think you are correct in that twenty twenty
five presents a new set of opportunities, a new set
of challenges. And as you said, you know, in the primary,
we were proud to win the young black vote across
New York City. It was a key part of us
beating Andrew Cuomo by thirteen points. And so our outreach
now is not just you know, to black voters that
will meet at a church or at a mosque or

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you know, whether it be a seven day Adventist church
on a Saturday morning. It's also through our canvassing operation
and what we found is that we now have closer
to seventy five thousand volunteers that have knocked on more
than six hundred thousand doors across this city and are
having those conversations directly. And the message in many ways
comes back to that of affordability, you know, and doctor

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King put it best, what good is having the right
to sit at a lunch counter if you can't afford
to buy a hamburger? And for many New Yorkers feeling that,
you know, we've grown tired of hearing how we're the
greatest city in the world when so many New Yorkers
can't afford to live in that same city any longer.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
The one of the one of the things that really
jumps out when we talk about running in how people run,
and as I've been watching, this style also is important
how you communicate, and you have purposely been far more
conversationalists in many ways, a much different media campaign. The

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late Joe Madison I used to always say, God bless
your soul. My friend used to always say, you got
to put it where the goats can get it. And
so I remember seeing a video and you were talking
about the price of some item that you were in
a food truck and you were talking to that particular person.
Walk me through that in terms of how you wanted
to communicate the issues with the voters, when traditionally when

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we talk about campaigns, it's Slinck commercials, highly produced, leaning
on endorsements, and if you do have regular people in them,
the setting is just a little bit different.

Speaker 9 (01:05:53):
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right, Roland, and it's.

Speaker 16 (01:05:56):
You know, too often it's the use of stock imagery
and stock photo than actual New Yorkers. And from the
beginning of the race, we made a decision that instead
of the typical approach that politicians take of lecturing New Yorkers,
we wanted to listen to New Yorkers. And so we
went out and asked New Yorkers, you know what is
what are the issues that you're facing, and we heard
was the cost of rent, it's the cost of childcare, groceries,

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public transit. And for many New Yorkers, they measure inflation
in the realm of food, whether it's what they're buying
at the grocery store or what they're getting from a
food cart. And so the video that you're referring to
is me in a halal cart you know where they
sell chicken and rice, talking about the fact that it's
not just inflation, it's halal inflation, because what used to
be eight bucks is now ten bucks. And it's actually

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city governments inefficiencies that have caused that price to rise
because they forced these vendors to have to purchase the
right to vend from a third party where they're paying
them sometimes even upwards of twenty thousand dollars, and that
cost then comes back onto New Yorkers. And so I
think it's breaking past the consultant discourse of politics and
actually getting to the constituent discourse the people that were

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supposed to serve.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Pretty laughable to me to watch CNBC and how they
have been portraying that that, oh my god, you're going
to completely destroy New York City. It's gonna be it's
gonna be maddening, how you hate rich people, How these
people are going to run away and they're gonna be
all running to Florida.

Speaker 5 (01:07:22):
Uh and uh.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
I came across. I came across this clip that I
thought was pretty funny. It was when New England Patriots
owner Robert Kraft was on CNBC and he talked about
the NFL as socialism and the reality is you're a socialist.

Speaker 26 (01:07:38):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
You've talked about that.

Speaker 28 (01:07:40):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
And Joe kernan big time MAGA Trump supporter, freaked out
and litally is like, oh, hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
Don't say that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
And I'm sitting there going but the NFL, it is
a socialist organization in terms of how the operation. I
want to play that clip, but I want to get
your reaction to it.

Speaker 28 (01:07:58):
I have believed in ninety for when I played the
highest price ever paid for any sports franchise in the world,
and I never would have believed it. But you know,
it's a credit to my partners in the NFL, and
Roger Goodell has done a great job.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Leading are.

Speaker 28 (01:08:22):
NFL, and we work it's almost the socialist system of
our partners and together say that, don't say.

Speaker 25 (01:08:32):
Anything good is happening so or else he's going to
get more votes down here.

Speaker 28 (01:08:36):
No, no, no, no, But I mean that on the way,
it's a spirit where it's the most competitive business there is.
How bad what people do to win?

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
The thing is the NFL, how they set up it
is socialism, and it's the most profitable sports franchise in
the country. How the matter fact, Damaris Smith was on
The Breakfast Club and he also talked about how.

Speaker 5 (01:09:06):
It is a practice socialism. So I guess I got
a gig here.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
You got these billionaires, nearly all of them Republican, all
of them MAGA billionaires, owning the league, the most profitable
sports league in America. And they say, oh my god, Mom, Donnie,
he's a socialist. But here's one of their own saying
they are too.

Speaker 16 (01:09:32):
It's hard to wrap the mind around it, but I
think as you're saying, it speaks to the amount of
fear mongering there is. And yes, you know, I am
a democratic socialist, and a lot of New Yorkers asked
me what does that actually mean? And I always think
of what Doctor King said decades ago. He said, call
it democracy or call it democratic socialism. There must be
a better distribution of wealth for all of God's children

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in this country. And I think that's what many New
Yorkers know. They know the dignity is something that should
be non negotiable. And I would be proud to be
the second democratic socialist in just a generation to be
the mayor of the city after David Dinkins about thirty
years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
To that point, and we've been watching how this plays out.
We've seen this before. We actually and we sought in
New York State. That was a woman named India Walton.
She won the primary upset the incumbent mayor in Buffalo
and man they went after her and he ran as
a write end candidate and beat her in the general

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election Byron Brown, and she lost.

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
You have been under withering attacks.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
You've got Bill Ackman and others who believe that you
are the devil. They are throwing millions in upon millions
of dollars at you. The incumbent Eric Adams has now
dropped out to set up this sort of two person
race between you and Andrew Cuomo. What is your focus
to beat back all of that, to beat back the

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relentless attack that is against you?

Speaker 16 (01:11:05):
You know, I think first it's to recognize who these
forces really are that are in opposition to our campaign.
Bill Ackman is taking a break from attacking diversity, equity
and inclusion and his fight to continue what black women
have been facing across this country with more than three
hundred thousand have been pushed out of their jobs, so
that he can attack this campaign. And frankly, he's spending

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more money than I would even tax him with my
fiscal proposals. And he's doing it because he's afraid of
having a mayor who isn't beholden to the same Trump
Maga movement that he helped to support back into the
White House. And you know, we have Andrew Cuomo here
who's been working with Donald Trump to try and stop
our campaign. And yet I can tell you that I
feel just as confident as I did a few weeks

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ago about this campaign because New Yorkers are telling me
that they are tired of politics as usual and they
want something different. They want an approach that puts working
people at the heart of it, not a question of
how do we make sure we make them most amount
of donors happy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
One of the things that you discussed this week, and
this is a constant thing in New York City, the
gifted and talented schools. When Bill de Blasio was mayor,
he tried to make some changes and all, my god,
folks lost their minds.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
And what you have here and let's just be and
I'm gonna say it. I don't problem saying it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
What you have with these gifted and talented programs, you
got a whole bunch of so called liberals and progressives
who want these schools to be to be for their
special kids. And when you look at when you break
down the numbers of these schools, you look at the
racial makeup. Now you're going to have the magi folks

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right when people say, here you go talk about the
racial makeup. But the reality is when we talk about
gifted and talented programs, everything is not also based upon grades.

Speaker 5 (01:12:52):
I went to Magnet schools in Houston.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Houston, that's one of the most comprehensive Magnet school programs.

Speaker 5 (01:12:57):
And yes, we had a school of Engineering. I put
to school community.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
We had the so called vanguard programs for the gifted
and talented. So walk me through how you were going
to approach these gifted and talented schools. Your critics say, oh,
you're just going to shut them down and leave it
at that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
Walk us through it.

Speaker 16 (01:13:16):
So my position is that children as young as being
in kindergarten should not be subject to a single assessment
that would place them in different tracks. I simply believe
that all of our kindergarteners should be receiving quality education,
and that's at the heart of our plan for an
education system that right now is not delivering for far
too many New Yorkers. And you know, if Andrew Cuomo

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wants to attack me on the basis of trying to
separate kindergarteners out, so be it. I'll let them do
that because this is something that I believe, and I've
found that many New Yorkers agree that at that young
of an age, there's no need for this kind of
an assessment and this kind of pressure.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
So one of the other issues we're talking about in
New York we talk about education or public charter schools.
When you look at success the schools, and I mean
thousands upon thousand parents been trying to get into their
particular schools. My good friend, doctor Steve Perry has a

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highly successful public charter school, Capital Preparatory Schools there in Harlem.
So for you, are you looking at are you are
you looking at decreasing charter schools? Are you looking at saying, Hey,
if those charter schools work, you're going to support those
things that work, and then we're going to try to

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raise these public schools. Can they coexist? From my point
of view, I've said I support anything that works. Public schools,
traditional schools, charter schools, home school, online school, magnet, parochio.
I don't care what it is. If it works, I'm
down with it. So where do you stand specific on

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education dealing with charter schools and traditional public schools in
order to get our kids better educate it?

Speaker 16 (01:15:01):
You know, Roland, I'm glad that you asked this question
because I've been skeptical about charter schools and that's on
the record, and also that skepticism doesn't preclude me from
meeting with New Yorkers who feel differently. I was at
Saint Paul's Church recently in East New York, where I
was speaking with the pastor there who introduced me to
the principle of Imagine Me, a charter school that the

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church had helped to form about fifteen years ago. And
that's a visit that I'm currently scheduled to go and
see that school so that I can better understand from
the perspective of those students, of those parents of that
principle as this actually means. And to always keep an
open mind while being honest about my own opinions.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Well, hey, I would encourage you to, but doing that
to meet with doctor Steve Perry, he's had great success.

Speaker 5 (01:15:51):
I know him well, we talk all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
And here someone who has had who has taken kids
who have been into diditional public schools and they were
failing and they've gone through his charter school and they
now are succeeding. And again that's where I come from.
These things can coexist, they can actually operate together.

Speaker 5 (01:16:12):
I don't believe they have to be in opposition.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
But what I do believe, and I am very clear
because I'm initially to called school choices the black choice.
I'm very clear. If there are charter schools that not performing,
shut them down. But if there are public schools that
are not performing, then they allod to be shut down
because the people who are getting screwed are the kids.
And that, to me is an abomination that we simply
cannot accept. Let's talk about economics. One of the things

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when David Patrison became governor of New York State, he
looked at the resources, he looked at the contract, looked
at the investments in how African Americans were being left
out across the board as mayor, how are you looking
at that?

Speaker 5 (01:16:52):
Because when we.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Talk about law firms, accounting firms, engineering firms, architecture firms,
private firms. What we're seeing is New York City has
the largest collection of Black people of any city in America.
New York City is one, Atlanta's two, Chicago is three.
And what we continue to see are Black folks who

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are driving pitching funds but getting screwed out of VC dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:17:19):
So let's talk about your.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Playing there to make sure African Americans are getting a
return of the investment and getting peace of that economic pie.

Speaker 16 (01:17:27):
Absolutely, Roland, and I think you know in many ways
you're also speaking about the MWBE program, And.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Now enough now for me, I'm speaking about black people.
I don't particular like the MWBE because it's minority in women,
and the women should really be white women because if
you're a Black woman, you're in a black category. So yes,
the overall program is MWBE. But I'm speaking of black
business absolutely.

Speaker 16 (01:17:49):
And the reason I bring it up is that, as
you've said, it is still far from successful as to
what its original intention is.

Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
Right.

Speaker 16 (01:17:57):
The intent of this is to ensure that we have
contracts that match the same percentage in proportion as we
have in our city and states population. And right now,
black women comprise less than two percent of the value
of all contracts being issued by the city. That is unacceptable, frankly,
because the city has an immense role in the question

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of generating wealth and ensuring that people can actually flourish
in this city, and yet too often it's being used
to double down on inequities that already exist, as opposed
to to ensure that that equity is actually something that's
being delivered across the five boroughs. And in looking at
the different ways we can tackle this, one of the
things is ensuring that there's actual enforcement of the provisions

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that we already have within the law city agency to
city agency. The second thing is actually going out to
these businesses that have been approved to bid to ensure
that they understand what a successful bid looks like, because
what I hear from a lot of these companies is
that they will get rejected time and time again, and
each time it doesn't feel like they're getting any closer
to approval. And what we know is is that the

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question of diversity, equity, and inclusion is not only something
that Bill Ackman is attacking, it's also something that Donald
Trump is attacking. I mean, the justification for the suspension
of eighteen billion dollars in federal infrastructure. Grand right, just done,
is DEI that's what they're saying. And it is part
and parcel of an attack on black Americans across this

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country to try not only to rewrite the past, but
also rewrite the president and the future. And it's not
acceptable and it won't be when I'm the mayor of
the city.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Well, of course, they stripped thirty seven million dollars from
Atlanta Airport for the very same reason, and that's that's
what they're doing there. Before I go to my panel,
I got eleven minutes left with you.

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
I'm going to go. I want to get them with questions.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
But on that point right there, there's a Robert there's
a fantastic book on Maynard Jackson, Robert Holmes, and in
that particular book, Manon Jackson talked about he said, listen,
this airport ain't getting built. He said, tumbleweeds will roll
down those runways. This thing before I allowed this to
be built without black participation. And one of the things

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that he did, and I tried to tell Illinois Governor
Rob Legovich when he was governor, before he decided to
do his unethical stuff when we visit well, well, when
we talk about how do we help. One of the
things that I see is that you have a lot
of black firms. They want a compete for a contract,
but they literally cannot survive floating their business for six

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months because typically cities are going to pay one hundred
and eighty day term. So as so, one of the
things Maynard Jackson did he called the banks in that
the city was putting their money in and he said,
he's you, they're getting contracts, they're getting a city contract.
You're going to provide a credit line of credit to them.
And the bank's objected. He said, City treasure step in,

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pull our money out their banks.

Speaker 5 (01:20:48):
And this is very simple.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
If New York City is putting New York City's money
in banks, and this is not even a race thing.
You could say this for anybody who gets a city contract.
I think the mayor should say, if you're the mayor,
to the banks, hey, if this said business is getting
a city contract, and you know we're going to be
paying them as a bank has put getting the city's money,

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you're benefiting. You should be providing lines of credit to
these businesses so they can be able to grow and prosper.
And if the bank's rejected, I think that's where you
then say, fine, we're going to take our city money,
tax payer money out of your banks since you cannot
help New York City businesses. That's a way, man. That's
how blessed Atlanta is what it is today because Maynor

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Jackson used the power of the political office. His grandfather
taught him three b's the ballot of the book in
the buck. He used the power of the political office
to drive the economic change in Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (01:21:45):
You know, that is fascinating.

Speaker 16 (01:21:46):
It's a story that I didn't know, and I think
it's one that is worth following up on because so
much of what I've heard from so many small businesses
is just the same problem that you've brought up, which
is how to stay afloat while they wait for that reimbursement.
And there are certain sized businesses that can handle that
kind of weight, but there's so many that are just
trying to start up that cannot. And it's the same

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thing for nonprofits.

Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:22:08):
Right now, by last count, the city ows around eight
hundred million dollars in contracts that it's already awarded but
has yet to pay up on and that throws Wow
under because they just can't afford to wait that long.
And you know, I'm looking at every single step we
can take that can actually make it easier to not
only start, but sustain a small business. I was speaking

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to a barbershop owner the other day who told me
that to open a barbershop he had to fill out
twenty four forms, go to seven different agencies, and attend
twelve different in person events. How is that stimulating an
entrepreneurial spirit here in New York City?

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Questions for my panel Matt Manning, civil rights attorney at
the Corpus Christie Matt your question of for Zila run Mum.

Speaker 6 (01:22:50):
Donnie, Yes, mister Donnie Good evening.

Speaker 8 (01:22:53):
Quick question for you.

Speaker 22 (01:22:54):
We talked on this show weeks ago about the essential
essentially what would happen elected mayor there in New York,
which I anticipate you will be, and how that might
reverber out to the reverber rate out to the rest.

Speaker 6 (01:23:06):
Of the country. So my question to you is really
twofold one.

Speaker 22 (01:23:09):
When you get elected, what are your thoughts on what
that will be representative for in terms of how New
Yorkers are looking at the mayoral office and maybe larger,
how Americans are looking for different people to serve them.
Number one and number two, What responsibility, if any, do
you anticipate you may feel when you're mayor for setting
the standard there in New York, hoping that rates out

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to the rest.

Speaker 16 (01:23:34):
You know, I really appreciate this question because I think
it speaks to what so many New Yorkers are looking
forward to with January first of next year, which will
be an administration that I will lead that understands its
responsibility is to deliver on an affordability agenda. You know,
we ran with three clear promises of freezing the rent
for rent, stabilized tenants, making the slowest busses in the

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country fast and free, and delivering universal childcare. And to me,
success is the implementation of that agenda. And I think
that the model that we can create here is one
that shows what's possible when you put working people at
the heart of your politics. Because we know that if
we do not diagnose and actually address the despair that
so many are feeling, we leave New Yorkers and Americans

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at large vulnerable to being exploited by someone like Donald Trump,
who runs the campaign on affordability, but then all he
delivers is punishment and cruelty. And it's time for us
to not only say that, yes, it is too expensive
of a city, but also here's what we're going to
do about it to make it an affordable city.

Speaker 23 (01:24:34):
Michael, all right, Mam Donnie, thanks for coming on today.
I saw you on MSNBC recently and you were saying
of Andrew Cromo that you said that in the primary
election he said he was best positioned to fight against

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Donald Trump, to go total told with Donald Trump on
behalf of New Yorkers. But then in the general election
you said he pivoted and said he was the best
positioned to work with Donald Trump.

Speaker 8 (01:25:09):
So my question for you is the Trump.

Speaker 23 (01:25:13):
Administration announced that they're freezing eighteen billion dollars in infrastructure
funding for New York City. Russell Vault, Dion Budsman, and
the architect of Project twenty twenty five announced that Wednesday on.

Speaker 24 (01:25:28):
X and then also the Energy Department.

Speaker 23 (01:25:30):
Trump's Energy Department on Wednesday announced that they were canceling
seven point five billion dollars in awards for energy projects
in states Democratic states, including the state of New York.
So how would Mayor Mom Donnie be able to fight
against the Trump administration to get that funding for New

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York City and the State of New York.

Speaker 16 (01:25:55):
You know, I was right there at the Hudson Tunnel
today with Congressman Nadler, with SEP Member Tony Simone, State
Senator Brad Hoyle, and Siegel, and we were all standing
in opposition to Donald Trump's recent decision. And as you said,
this is a decision that can't be separated from Project
twenty twenty five because it was announced by the architect
of that very project. And yet while we were doing that,

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Andrew Cuomo was nowhere to be found on this issue.
And it speaks to the fact that you cannot stand
up and defeat Donald Trump his agenda if you're unwilling
to actually speak up against that same agenda. And in
the primary, we shared our concerns that we couldn't trust
a former governor who was funded in large part by
the same billionaires that funded Donald Trump. And now in
the general we're seeing that Andrew Cuomo is actively co

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worked with Donald Trump to try and stop our campaign,
going so far as to be on the phone with
him with the question not being how can we protect
New Yorkers. But how can we stop zamm DONI And
I'm here with the one goal in mind being serving
those same New Yorkers that are so often left out
of those kinds of conversations.

Speaker 5 (01:26:57):
You've been dealing with this issue of rick control.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
There were there being folks as African Americans who say
that it's concerning for those who are homeowners. But when
we look at the and I've covered housing my entire career,
we've never hit fifty percent Black home ownership in this country.
So the majority of African Americans in this country are renters.

Speaker 5 (01:27:22):
Not homeowners.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
And so how have you dealt with these folks who
say that, well, because you were being criticized by Mayor
Adams that, oh, if you freeze rents, that's going to
negatively impact African American homeowners. But aren't you saying that
if I freeze rent that's actually going to help those

(01:27:44):
people who are losing out and someone becoming homeless because
they can't afford to live where they are because of
rising rates.

Speaker 16 (01:27:52):
Absolutely, rolland you are one hundred percent correct, which is
that you know, we're talking about a population of two
and a half million tenants who have a median house
hold income of sixty thousand dollars, and for so many
they are on a fixed income where any rent increase
is one that then forces them to choose between medicine
and food. It forces them to choose between being able
to pay their rent and then having to take away

(01:28:14):
from their other necessities. And our plan to freeze the
rent will return about seven billion dollars into the pockets
of working class tenants. And also our plan is one
part of an affordability agenda. That agenda extends to homeowners
and landlords too, because we will work to decrease their
insurance costs, which have doubled in recent years. You know,
there's a program called Milton Street Captive which currently is

(01:28:37):
working to actually depress home insurance costs, and that's something
that could be critical that the city was to invest in.
Are there is a property tax system that's broken and
disproportionately impacts so many working class homeowners across the five boroughs,
and yet there's been no political will to actually get
that done. That's going to be the core of our
state legislative agenda. And finally, Rudy Giuliani created a system

(01:28:59):
called the Property Tax Lean Sale where the city would
sell the debt that homeowners owed, whether it be for
or property taxes. And what we found is the city
is six times more likely to sell that debt in
a black neighborhood than a white neighborhood. And in part
because of that recognition, as well as the fact that
this is not how you fund the city government and

(01:29:19):
you're putting homeowners on a fast track to foreclosure, we're
going to abolish that program to make it easier for
homeowners to stay in their own homes.

Speaker 5 (01:29:27):
Two questions left. I know our time is short.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
First, a lot of people have made a huge, a
big deal out of the fact that House Democratic leader
how King Jeffrey's has not endorsed you.

Speaker 5 (01:29:39):
Do you care?

Speaker 25 (01:29:41):
You know?

Speaker 16 (01:29:41):
I can tell you that I have appreciated the conversations
that we've had. And also if it was endorsements that
determined elections, then I wouldn't be sitting in front of
you as the Democratic nominee, because it was the people
of the city that put me here, and those are
the people whose endorsements I'm looking to win. Just in
thirty two.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Days, last thing here, and it's not necessarily a question.
One of the things that I found to be incredibly
stupid is to watch these ignorant mainstream shows say, oh
my god, if mom Donnie is elected in New York,
then that is going to be a yoke around the
neck of Democrats across the country, which is weird because
it's not like when Eric Adams was elected that somehow

(01:30:18):
every Democrat had to answer to what Eric Adams is
doing before that Michael Bloomberg, independent or really Democrat or Republican,
whatever date was before that, Deakins or Cock and I
just think, just for me and listen, I've worked at
CNN for six years, I think the fundamental problem is
national media. They spent they actually live in New York City.

(01:30:39):
They think it's all about them. I don't think and
this is no disrespect to you. I don't think there's
somebody any other part of the country's gonna give a
shit whether you were the mayor of New York City.
It's not going to impact Charlotte, Houston, Dallas anywhere else.
And so I just think that's just the dumbest thing
that I constantly.

Speaker 16 (01:30:57):
I appreciate that wrong on the only thing that I
would say is the only way we're gonna affect those
cities is by stopping this city from being so expensive
that New Yorkers started moving over there. We're gonna keep
them here because it's gonna be a city they can afford.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
Well, I appreciate you coming on the show. I've been
definitely when watching the campaign, wanting to get you on.
If you have time to stop by once once more
before this election. Look forward to having you back on
and good luck in this campaign.

Speaker 16 (01:31:22):
Thank you so much, my friend. It was an honor
to be here.

Speaker 3 (01:31:24):
Thank you, thank you very much. Gonna go to break,
we come back. We're gonna chat about that, you know,
a matter fact. Stop the commercial it's going to write
to it. Let mean, let me go straight and kill
the commercial. So, Matt, here's the thing here and again,
I've paid a lot of attention to this race. The
reason mom, Donnie is doing well is because he is
running a fucking brilliant campaign. Just I mean, I don't

(01:31:49):
care what anybody says. I mean, I listen, my parents
have worked elections. I have my dad watched news every day.
My god, they had my house now and he watches
the local news here. I don't even watch local news. Okay,
so I have had to watch the news my entire life.

(01:32:09):
I there are very few candidates that I have seen.
So I'm fifty six, I mean fifty seven next month.
Let's just say I started paying attention when I was
seven or eight years old. There are very few candidates
that I have personally seen in the last fifty years
who have run as such a smart, effective, and laser

(01:32:32):
light focus as Zoran Mamdani.

Speaker 22 (01:32:37):
Well, I can't I can't corroborate that, not having watched
too much of his campaign, but I will say that
clearly what he's doing is working because my sister lives
in Queen's and I went to visit her a couple
weeks ago, and her and her roommate are very excited
about his candidacy, and a lot of younger people like
them are excited about his candidacy. And I think right now,
at a time where a lot of people are just

(01:32:59):
desensitized with politics or otherwise feel like no politician is
to be trusted or the federal government, we've got a
king in office who's you know, running rough shot over everybody.
Clearly for him to be making the inroads he has
and to have won these primary, this primary is a
testament to him doing something right. I don't know exactly
what you mean, if you mean specifically that he's using

(01:33:21):
social media in a certain night, or he's speaking just
laser focused to those issues. But I will say the
kitchen take people are clearly the issues that people are
worried about. I was at an event this weekend with
somebody running for Texas comptroller, and all he kept talking
about is that all people are talking about to him
on the campaign trail is money, cost of things, affordability.

(01:33:42):
You know, in a different context.

Speaker 6 (01:33:43):
Than in New York. But if that's what you mean,
that's exactly what you're.

Speaker 22 (01:33:46):
Supposed to do in this moment, because it's the topic
djuur at every kitchen table and in every house, the
cost of everything and how it just seems to be
going up and wages are clearly not keeping up with it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:57):
So that's what you mean, I got him.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
Here's what I mean by again, I'm looking at the
totality of this.

Speaker 5 (01:34:04):
I'm looking at how he communicates.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
I'm looking at taking on the questions I'm talking about
In that first in that first debate, when they asked
the question, what's the first what's the I think it
was like, what's the first thing you're gonna do or
what's the first place you're gonna visit if you elect
a mayor.

Speaker 5 (01:34:23):
All of these can sucking up to Jewish voters in
New York. I'm going to Israel. I'm going to Israel.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
I'm going to Israel, Mam Donnie goes, I'm gonna visit
New York cities.

Speaker 5 (01:34:33):
And it was the reason.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
It was a brilliant answer because he's not running for
national office. I totally understand the Jewish population in New
York City and the state of Israel.

Speaker 5 (01:34:44):
I get that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
But his whole deal was I'm the mayor. He wasn't
trying to be this foreign policy expert. It was a
brilliant answer. The commerci the commercials, the social media, how
he is engaging voters. Somebody in social somebody actually sat
here and hit me and his said, come on, Rowland.
Kama did no, she didn't. I'm sorry. She had one
hundred and seven days. But I'm telling y'all right now.

(01:35:07):
Vice President Kamala Harris did not run a campaign like
Mam Donnie. What I'm saying is, when I'm saying brilliant,
I'm talking about how you communicate to voters, but more importantly,
how you communicate Michael to people who have checked out
of the publical process.

Speaker 5 (01:35:27):
Yeah, a few things here.

Speaker 23 (01:35:29):
I've been observing this campaign from Afar and we've talked
about it here.

Speaker 5 (01:35:33):
So number one, he's down the earth.

Speaker 23 (01:35:36):
He shows up in places where a lot of the
other candidates are not showing up.

Speaker 9 (01:35:43):
The video that he did dealing with.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
The cost of allow food I think it was.

Speaker 23 (01:35:51):
With the push carts the food trucks there in New
York City was a stroke of genius because what he
did was he talked about their cost and how it
was also related to a city government, city hall, the
red tape that.

Speaker 9 (01:36:09):
They had to do with.

Speaker 5 (01:36:10):
So he showed bureaucracy.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
He showed bureaucracy, red tape, small business owner, cost of food.
He hit all of that in one video, right, and
then what he would do to bring down the costs.

Speaker 23 (01:36:25):
Okay, that was a stroke of genius. Look, I've studied marketing. Okay,
that was brilliant right there. And he's not scripted so
to speak, so yes, he'll have his talking points, but
he talks like a real person. He's really relatable and
a lot of people especially younger people gen Z millennials,

(01:36:47):
but especially gen Z. They want somebody who's authentic. They
want somebody who's not scripted, so and hitting on affordability
and you know, dealing with topics that people.

Speaker 9 (01:37:01):
Can really relate to.

Speaker 23 (01:37:03):
This is what people want. So I think it's important
for other Democrats. And I'm neither Democrat nor Republican, but
I know who the hell is working against our best
interests as black people.

Speaker 11 (01:37:13):
I think it's important for other Democrats.

Speaker 23 (01:37:15):
To study this and you know, adapted to their own personality,
their own skill sets.

Speaker 5 (01:37:25):
But and the other thing is fire a lot.

Speaker 9 (01:37:28):
Of these goddamned consultants.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
No, no, actually, don't even hire them. Don't even hire
don't even know, don't fire them, don't even hire them.
I just want to again again, I need people to
understand this is not oh my god, you're trying to
try to get close to them on do No.

Speaker 5 (01:37:45):
I'm telling y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
The campaign that he's running is actually what we've long
talked about. How do you make this thing personal to
every single person? So let me show you this here.
This this is from This is dated October twenty third,
twenty twenty four. So this was the opening commercial for
Zorn Mamdani in New York City, and I want y'all

(01:38:10):
to watch this here.

Speaker 5 (01:38:11):
I need y'all. We're gonna break this thing down, and
I want you to a You're gonna understand. This was October.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
This was almost one year ago, and what you're gonna
see in this commercial.

Speaker 5 (01:38:23):
Has been consistent for the last year. Watch this.

Speaker 16 (01:38:34):
New York Mayor Eric Adams has been indicted by every politician,
says New York is the greatest city in the globe.
But what good is that if no one can afford
to live here. City Hall is engulfed in corruption, unscientific.
The cost of living is the real crisis. New Yorkers
are being crushed by rent and childcare. The slowest buses

(01:38:55):
in the nations are robbing us of our time and
our sanity. Working people are being pushed out of the
city they built. A mayor could change this, and that's
why I'm running.

Speaker 21 (01:39:07):
Bus.

Speaker 16 (01:39:08):
I'll make buses fast and free.

Speaker 11 (01:39:10):
So i can just get where I'm going.

Speaker 16 (01:39:13):
I'll make childcare available to all New Yorkers at no costs.

Speaker 11 (01:39:17):
I want to raise my kid in New York.

Speaker 16 (01:39:19):
And I'll freeze the rent for every single rent stabilized tendant.

Speaker 5 (01:39:22):
These Eric Adams rent are killing us.

Speaker 16 (01:39:27):
Life in this city doesn't need to be this hard,
but politicians like Eric Adams and Andrew Cuomo want it
to be this way. They care about their donors, They
care about themselves. They don't care about you, the working
class who keep this city running. This campaign is for
every New Yorker who believes in the dignity of their neighbors,
and the government's job is to actually make our lives better.

(01:39:48):
We can afford to bring down the rent, have world
class public transit, make it easier to raise a family.

Speaker 5 (01:39:55):
We can do all of that and so much more.
Because this is New York. We can afford to dream.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
All right, So let me walk you through again how
you run and you run smart. First, did y'all see
him wearing a blue suit and a red tie?

Speaker 5 (01:40:17):
Nope?

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
First of all, Zoran Mondana's American is Ugandan? Okay, all right,
So you saw him wearing a tire that speaks to
who he is. To Michael's point, Matt, the consultant class
will be don't you can't wear that? No, no, no, no,
We're gonna poll test what suit? So you should be

(01:40:38):
a blue suit and you should wear a darknit. That's
how they roll. When you look at the issues, it
is the issues he is. He has been successful because
he's not trying to speak to Wall Street. The problem
was so many of these national media people who make
millions of dollars. Okay, they're the high earners. See they

(01:41:03):
see New York City through their lens, which is from
the backseat of a car service. How he's been connecting
with the voters, other people who ride the subway.

Speaker 5 (01:41:13):
And if you do have some money, you take taxes.
And that's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
If you are a candidate running for office anywhere in
America and you're running for US Senate, Congress, governor, you're
running for county commissioner, city council, school board, DA judge,
you and your team should be studying how he's run

(01:41:38):
because it's about how do you connect with a person.
Because I keep telling people, voting is the end. I
got to get your registered. Before I get you registered,
I got to give your reason to get registered and
then a reason to vote. In that map, I think
is the difference here. And that's why with everything they've

(01:41:59):
thrown at, numbers keep going up, up up, so while
they're with there, fighting and yelling and cussing and calling
him a socialist and he's the devil and he's a satan.

Speaker 5 (01:42:11):
The voters are like, yep, but I like what I'm hearing.

Speaker 6 (01:42:15):
And I think to that point, it's a great point.

Speaker 22 (01:42:17):
To that point, I mean, the three women that were
in that video were a cross section of New York right,
three women of different ethnicities, all speaking directly to one
of his three points that he was going to address.
And I think it's a genius idea talking about not
only kitchen table issues, but kitchen table issues that have
the largest impact, that directly impact quality of life. I'm
talking about you know, you getting around every day. Anybody

(01:42:39):
who's ever been to New York, A lot of the
time you spend is to your point, getting around. Are
you gonna uber, You're gonna use the train, or you're
gonna use a bus. If you're getting on the bus
every day and going to work, and he's making it
faster for you and making your community easier, I mean,
that's the kind of thing that is a deliverable that
politicians don't often think about, but that's the kind of
thing that changes I think lives and I think what
you're talking about is this is really a very broad

(01:43:02):
based approach, Like I'm not talking to Wall Street. I'm
talking to your average person about things that are gonna
make their life measurably better. And he said something in
there that's that's funny because I've said it basically as
long as I've been involved in politics. They are interested
in politics, is that the government should exist to make
your life better. I think is why I said. And
I think that's what people feel, that's the sentiment. But

(01:43:23):
a lot of times people are disenfranchised with government because
they feel like all they hear is squawking and they
see no measurable benefit. They don't see less taxes, they
don't see better services. And I think he's speaking to
those issues that people feel the brunt of every day.

Speaker 3 (01:43:38):
Okay, here's the ad that I just think is insanely brilliant.
This is what it say is in Twitter, New York City.
I can see a future with you, and it's one
we can afford. Our new ad just Air doing the
Golden Bachelor.

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
Y'all watch this.

Speaker 16 (01:43:57):
You deserve better, able to raise your family here, to
be safe to travel where you need to, free of
costs and worry. You deserve someone who works as hard
as you do, who thinks about you every second of
the day. That's the kind of mayor I promised to
be New York.

Speaker 5 (01:44:17):
Well, you accept this rose paid for by Zoron for NYC.

Speaker 3 (01:44:22):
Oh who I'm telling you a consult to you like
you're going to run an ad as if you're dating
the voter.

Speaker 20 (01:44:33):
Brilliant.

Speaker 5 (01:44:37):
So I think that deals with Now I won't watch
The Bachelor. No no, no, no no, but here's no deal.

Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
But the Golden Bachelor is a show where I think
I think the person is I think that hold up
because just you don't watch it. I think the person
is like fifty five, the person's like sixty older, and
they're and then they're dating. And so how they picked
the woman as if they hand them the rolls.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
And the roads. Yeah, I'm familiar with it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
I just don't watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
The consult the political consultants. This would not fly in
ninety nine percent of.

Speaker 5 (01:45:13):
The races right now.

Speaker 23 (01:45:15):
I'm familiar with the show, I was saying, I just
don't watch it. However, he aired that during The Golden Bachelor.
So the way it rolls out right, it's similar for
my understanding of how it looks on The Golden Bachelor.

Speaker 9 (01:45:29):
Okay, so then he comes with the rolls things like this.

Speaker 23 (01:45:31):
So when you have somebody watching a particular TV show,
when they see an ad that looks similar to the
set in the format of the TV show, it keeps
them engaged, right, so they don't even realize, Hey, it's
a political.

Speaker 9 (01:45:46):
Campaign that I'm looking at right now.

Speaker 23 (01:45:48):
But yeah, you're right, that's not something that the average consultant,
especially a lot of these white consultants, would advise their
candidate to go with. So he's breaking the norms and
it is resonating with people. Once again, my degree is
in marketing. That is a stroke of genius right now.

Speaker 3 (01:46:08):
And another say this here, so I Kim Smith in
our chat by into style not substance. I Kim, You're stupid.
You later, don't what the hell you're talking about. We
have literally been talking about his campaign and substance. But
what he's doing is he is combining the natural ebb

(01:46:28):
and flow and the field of communicating with the voter
to say I can communicate on the issues. So you
don't know what the hell you're talking about. That's just
a stupid ass comment.

Speaker 5 (01:46:37):
I'm gonna bust the package.

Speaker 3 (01:46:39):
Well, but also the reality is you have to package
your policy. See this is what's so stupid when that
comment is stupid. You have to package your policy proposals
in a way that resonates with the average person who
is not a hardcore political person.

Speaker 5 (01:46:58):
This is the last one I'm gonna play.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
And again when you talk about understanding where you are
understanding history and how do you connect the dots, this
to me again smart campaign.

Speaker 16 (01:47:26):
When Earl Manigold stepped onto this court at ninety ninth
in Amsterdam, the world stopped to watch. In a city
where everything is contested, even the contrarians agreed, no one
dominated street ball like Earl did.

Speaker 5 (01:47:37):
He dunk back which thirty six times in a row
for a bet.

Speaker 3 (01:47:41):
He could take a.

Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
Court off the top of the backboard.

Speaker 5 (01:47:43):
He had the double dunk.

Speaker 1 (01:47:44):
We dunk it and then you catch it and dunck
it again.

Speaker 16 (01:47:47):
Manigult's nickname was the Goat, but talent never made American.
He was idolized as much for his kindness as his
ability to dump. That's part of why his memory lives
on today. Unlike many with a gift, he never believed
his hype the Goat might have been on a level
of his own in the fifties and sixties. His greatness
faded fast after he developed a debilitating heroin addiction. He recovered,
then relapsed, served time in prison, and ultimately left New York.

(01:48:11):
The man who Kareem of bil Jabbar called the best
basketball player of his size in the history of New
York City never made it pro. Towards the end of
his life, The Goat came home to Harlem before he
died in nineteen ninety eight. He spent his final years
counseling kids, teaching them how to play and avoid his path.
To many New Yorkers, he's still a giant today.

Speaker 5 (01:48:31):
He helped check me on his wing, and he helped us.
We want it the next ten.

Speaker 9 (01:48:36):
I don't dunk anymore for us to have.

Speaker 8 (01:48:38):
A couple moves.

Speaker 16 (01:48:39):
You know, there are countless New York stories like Manigault's,
brilliant minds, incredible athletic talents lost to drugs or crime
or alienation.

Speaker 5 (01:48:47):
It doesn't have to be this way.

Speaker 16 (01:48:49):
City government can foster supportive environments for our kids, and
we can build spaces that give them opportunities to grow
as mayor, I'll increase access to sports, mentorship after school
and some We'll expand SYEP or Summer Youth Employment program,
which builds confidence for young people and lower's chances of
felony arrests by over twenty percent. And we'll tackle youth

(01:49:10):
violence with safe passage and greater school based violence prevention programs,
mental health services, and school counselors. Here at a park
that many still call Goat Park and can't help but
think of something Managolf said. For every Michael Jordan, there's
an earl Manigolf, we all can't make it. Someone has
to fit. I was the one with all love to
the goat. I don't agree. This is the wealthiest city

(01:49:33):
in the wealthiest nation in the history of the world.

Speaker 5 (01:49:36):
It's time we all make it again.

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
Smart campaigning, you take a historic, well known figure. A
consultant would say, no, we're not gonna do something talking
about a guy who was a drug addict, a guy
who failed.

Speaker 5 (01:49:56):
We're not gonna do that. No.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
He takes the story New York City legend and lays
out in that two minute and twenty four second video,
policies dealing with mentoring and other types of programming.

Speaker 5 (01:50:10):
Again.

Speaker 3 (01:50:11):
This is where I'm saying, this is why he's winning,
for all of these people, for all of these of
all of these weak as impotent, scared democrats.

Speaker 5 (01:50:22):
Look, oh my god, he's a socialist. Oh my god, I.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
Can't endorse the socialist. There's a reason he's winning. And
I dare say he's gonna kick Andrew Cuomo's ass.

Speaker 5 (01:50:39):
Yeah, you know that old no for bad, that's for Matt,
that's Matt.

Speaker 11 (01:50:42):
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 22 (01:50:43):
Yeah, I mean, I'll just say, you know, the establishment
candidate isn't gonna isn't gonna prevail when this guy is
talking to the people. I mean, that's ultimately what it
comes down to. And I think that this is a
really important point because we don't think about it. But
I think your point earlier about the blue suit and
the red I mean, that's like so common fear. We
don't even think about the fact that some consultant is

(01:51:05):
probably saying exactly what you're saying. No, you can't break
the mold. You can't break the mold. And here's what
it is, right, fortune favors the bold. So if you're
taking that step and you're approaching it, differently. Clearly something's
working when you have seventy five thousand volunteers for your campaign.
I don't know about what the numbers will ultimately look like,
but I think it's especially helpful when people are already

(01:51:27):
probably distrustful of the old guard, like Andrew Cmo, who's
doing the same thing they've always done to the same people,
speaking to the same people, trying to get the same votes,
and he's talking to a much broader base and new
entrance to politics.

Speaker 6 (01:51:40):
So I think maybe you'll be.

Speaker 22 (01:51:41):
Right in terms of the numbers, But even if you
aren't right, if he wins, it'll be a testament to
breaking convention and the value that can have.

Speaker 5 (01:51:48):
Quick break, we'd come back.

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
We're going to talk about farmers with John Boyd and
his National Black Farmer Association, and boy, these white farmers,
all the white orange magateers are a plenty. You're watching
Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network.

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Speaker 27 (01:53:09):
And you know, as a farmer, we get up one
morning and you get Argentina, which is our second biggest
competition in the world. They're the largest exporters of soybean
meal in the world. So I get up one morning,
I turned the news on, and you get twenty billion
dollars a taxpayer money to my competition. And then the
Chinese buy I think the figure is thirty or forty

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containers ships, which is about sixty five thousand metric tons
per ship, which is like two point two million bushels.
So they buy twelve or fourteen billion dollars worth of
sody beans from the Argentinians after the tax holiday.

Speaker 5 (01:53:43):
And here's the caveat to it.

Speaker 27 (01:53:45):
They get two dollars and thirty cents over the November board,
while I'm getting fifty cents under the November board. So
that makes see Argentinian soybeans about twelve dollars and forty
two cents a bushel. I think that's the real figure
they gave.

Speaker 5 (01:53:59):
So all my PREMI y'all, you gotta love it.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
Do I need to remind y'all the last time that
orange food was in the Oval office?

Speaker 5 (01:54:12):
Do I need to remind y'all what happened? Same thing happened.

Speaker 3 (01:54:19):
This idiot comes in with his tariffs, recks the economy,
destroys farmers. Take your pick Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Nebraska,
any place where you got farmers.

Speaker 5 (01:54:40):
They got screwed.

Speaker 3 (01:54:42):
Twenty five billion dollars in tax pair of money given
the farmers because of his dumb ass trade policies.

Speaker 5 (01:54:50):
So what does he do?

Speaker 3 (01:54:51):
He runs on the same policies. Ain't know these dumb
ass white farmers do. Give me in my back of hat.
I love me some Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:55:04):
And here we are ten months later and they're crying
like some babies. My god, we're we're losing the same playbook.

Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
And guess what Republicans are now talking about doing because
Trump is now freaking out. They're talking about putting together
a package. And I've seen anywhere from ten to thirty
five to fifty billion. Oh I thought y'all didn't like welfare.
Matter of fact, Senator Jonie Ernst of Iowa get an
nywew she said, you know you my farmers, they don't.

(01:55:39):
They don't like warfare, but they need help. Oh but
y'all shot on stute loans. Y'all shitted all over black
farmers and Latino farmers when a deal was cut, and
racist ass Steven Miller blocked the money from going to him.
Y'all shit on people with who are on food assistants.

(01:56:04):
But oh now we're all supposed to sit back and
go all these poor white farmers.

Speaker 5 (01:56:12):
And let me be real clear when I say the
poor white.

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
Farmers that bill out money that ain't going no black
farmer or Latino farmer. John Bard is the president National
Black Farmers Association. And you know it's hard for me,
John to say the hell with these red state farmers.

Speaker 5 (01:56:33):
But I'm sorry they voted for his ass and this
happened last time. What the hell they think was gonna
happen again.

Speaker 29 (01:56:41):
But Roland I told him that the towns didn't work
the first time. It didn't work the first time.

Speaker 30 (01:56:48):
And when Trump came in and posted tell us on China,
I was selling soy beans people for sixteen dollars and
eighty cents of bushall Yep, price plummeted all the way
down to about six seven bucks a.

Speaker 29 (01:57:03):
Bushel, and the market never came back. Now, these are
the boys who voted for him. And I was on
the circus, I said, vote for Harrison or the cosas
the only way out of this thing. All that stuff
they voted, they voted for him probably Yep, they voted
for this president. Now he's now the black farmers ain't

(01:57:25):
half far the fall. I want to be perfect clear.
Everybody's watching us. We've been down. Everybody dumped on us.
So we've been down, and we know what it feels like.
We know what it looked like, not to get along,
not to get us up to all the same. But
them big boys, them big boys, that guy who just
showed Trump got a man twenty billion dollars to Argentina

(01:57:46):
man twenty billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
And then they turn around and sell the.

Speaker 29 (01:57:50):
Soy beans with the money that this guy bared the
whole country out with and left them and left them
high and dry and rolling.

Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
A Guess what, the market ain't coming.

Speaker 29 (01:57:59):
Back because it is harvest season right now, so they
having to take those trucks to the grain elevators right now.
And it's money that the President keeps talking about. The
money is gonna come out to tarriffs. Ain't no money
come out to terrafs. That's a little a ploy that
he's trying to do for mid term elections to keep
his friends happy. We're not gonna get a damn dime

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out of no tariff money. It's TOMA and federal court.
As you know, well, he've been following this thing. There's
lawsuits and there's judges are saying what he's doing with
this tariffs he can't even be doing in the first place.

Speaker 31 (01:58:32):
So this president got his base, He got his base,
and he played his base, and the base.

Speaker 1 (01:58:40):
Is gonna turn on him. That's I'm going to tell you.

Speaker 29 (01:58:43):
When no white farmers started going out, thom farms ain't
ain't coming back, and people they're farming in blocks rolling,
not the average avers. A black farmer is sixty. Average
farm size is fifty acres. They're farming in blocks. A
block is a thousand and acres.

Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
People.

Speaker 29 (01:59:01):
Yeah, all this land everyone, and guess who's buying it?
Guess who's buying the land? The vice president and acre
traitor of watching these farmers and his real estate group
gobbling up farm land from the people that voted for theirs.
How stupid is that?

Speaker 3 (01:59:20):
And see what pisses me off again with these idiots
and mainstream media when they come on you know what,
they don't do that. They don't say, Hey, I'm curious,
so and so how did you vote? Like I'm old,
I'm gona play this clip right here. This is the
the guy over the whiskey. He's in Wisconsin, soy being well,

(01:59:43):
watch this.

Speaker 32 (01:59:44):
Well right now, as farmers, you know, we are in
kind of a state of emergency right now because of
the everything that's going on, and so we will take
that money right now. We'd rather have our global markets
open and be able to sell our product and you
make our money that way. But right now, farmers are

(02:00:07):
needing some kind of assistance to keep going. We have
farmers that are losing, farmers that have been in their
families for generations.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
Yeah, and I wonder how many of those people, how
many those people John he and Wisconsin Trump won that state?

Speaker 5 (02:00:21):
How many of them? Damn farmers.

Speaker 3 (02:00:23):
But see if they go on TV, the first pust
should be should be a hey, white.

Speaker 5 (02:00:28):
Farmer, who did you vote for.

Speaker 27 (02:00:31):
The man?

Speaker 5 (02:00:32):
The man did it last time?

Speaker 3 (02:00:34):
Like I'm trying to understand what the hell do they
think was gonna happen? And Vice President Kamala Harris kept
saying his tears are going to cause prices to rise.
If farmers going to business, Oh no, should not telling
the truth?

Speaker 5 (02:00:47):
Okay, well they're.

Speaker 1 (02:00:49):
Going out of business.

Speaker 31 (02:00:51):
And like I said, the band, the whole deal with
the president is they got a whole real estate.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
Arm that's going to be buying, buying up the land
people and roll.

Speaker 29 (02:01:01):
The last time I was on your show, I was
saying to Black America, we need to be prepared to
buy some land and group and start buying some design
because it's going to be on the sales block here
real shortly. The market is not going to come back
in thirty days.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
I'm sorry, it's not. And those guys cannot sell.

Speaker 29 (02:01:21):
So it means for ten dollars a bushep because that's
what the market is rolling five dollars for read four
dollars for coin. Guess what I was selling grain in
the early eighties, man, for just under that? And here
it is that year twenty twenty five, and this president
has taken us to the lowest grain prices in history

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and the highest input nobody's talking about that, the highest
input costs in history for farmers or right now under
the nine months of this president. This guy came in
the office in nine ten months and costs complete heavy
for white America and rule America in this country. And
guess what we need to be in the position to

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go in there and start winning some of these states,
to come up with a platform to steal some of
these people, whether we like them or not, they down
there voting in the red states, and we need to
start winning some of the red states. And guess what
the Democrats should be saying in healthcare?

Speaker 12 (02:02:17):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (02:02:17):
And were coming back and rural America.

Speaker 29 (02:02:19):
We got a plan to help some farmers out here
because we want them votes too.

Speaker 3 (02:02:23):
But see John, to be honest, he's my problem these
white and I'm specifically saying white farmers for a reason
because let me be real clear, but they don't. Just
as your notebro, them damn white farmers wasn't standing up
for y'all. They don't them damn white farmers. They weren't
saying Stephen Miller is unfair blocking that blocking out that

(02:02:44):
five billion dollars going to black Latino farmers. No, they
wasn't saying a damn thing. They were like, hmm, that's
your Negro farmers.

Speaker 5 (02:02:52):
We don't care.

Speaker 3 (02:02:52):
But see, so my problem is they want Democrats to
now bail them out. Yes, so they could go right
back and vothe for mega policies.

Speaker 1 (02:03:01):
Well, let's go the whole thing as you raised that flint.
Let's go over those things. They didn't want to pay
blacks to work on farms. That's the first thing.

Speaker 29 (02:03:11):
That's what gott white people in trouble in this country
when they ran blacks off the farm. They want us
to be sharecroppers and all this stuff. They didn't pay
us there, they stole out of land. And then what
they do, Oh, we can't get blacks to come back
to the South and work, So we'll go get some hispanics. Right,
Let's get them here to pick some tomatoes and cotton.
And onions and all this stuff. Now, when they find

(02:03:33):
that they weren't going to vote for them, the Republicans
were at ninety nine percent, they said, oh now we
got to get all.

Speaker 1 (02:03:39):
Of them out of the country. And now we're going
to get the blacks from the inner cities.

Speaker 29 (02:03:43):
They're gonna come back pick some tomatoes and people in
the discipilament roll is not working. Black people ain't coming
back picking no damn tomatoes for free. They're not gonna
do it, man. So this stuff that this administration in
the sand, they're gonna get some people on disability, man,
that's what they're saying. Disability and blacks from the inner city,
that's what this administration said. I mean to come out

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here and be uh and do the farm work. It's
not going to happen. It's not going to happen. Well,
what I am saying is I don't want to lose anymore,
and I don't want to lose to anything that look
like Donald Trump will act like Donald Trump just dumping
on this, dumping on black Black America from the megaphone.
I mean, look how he's ridiculing the leader, the black leader,

(02:04:27):
Jefferies got him out here in some dumb sad or
some kind of some bread load and goat them throwing
a Donald Trump hat on him.

Speaker 1 (02:04:35):
Man, it irritates me to no extent that we have
someone in.

Speaker 33 (02:04:38):
This country to take politics and the office of presidency
all the way down to humiliate a black man, a
young black brother like that man with no comeback in
this country.

Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
It pisces me off to New York STWN.

Speaker 3 (02:04:54):
Real quickly on my panel. Question is Michael you first.

Speaker 26 (02:04:57):
Go.

Speaker 9 (02:04:59):
All right?

Speaker 23 (02:05:00):
John So, Uh, I know there was some black farmers
before the twenty twenty four election. Uh here in Roland
Martin in the filter, you said some of them were
going to vote for Donald Trump or thinking for or
thinking about voting for Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (02:05:15):
What are they saying now? They ain't saying nothing. They
ain't saying nothing.

Speaker 29 (02:05:19):
And that's that's what happens when you get your behind
kicked here you're running hide.

Speaker 1 (02:05:25):
I ain't seen him on.

Speaker 29 (02:05:26):
The Dunk Show nowhere. Uh you know, And I told them,
and uh, Rowland, No, Roland been on some of these emails.
I mean I stopped writing them.

Speaker 5 (02:05:35):
Oh you mean you mean, what's that dude name Corey Poney?

Speaker 1 (02:05:39):
Know what his name is?

Speaker 15 (02:05:40):
Right?

Speaker 5 (02:05:40):
And how to cuss them out several times.

Speaker 29 (02:05:45):
Well, look you can't. This is what's wrong with our people.
Here's the perfect time in history for black people to
come together and say, you know what mean getting dumped
on no more, and we're gonna do something positive and
moved forward together.

Speaker 1 (02:06:01):
That's what we're going to have to do.

Speaker 29 (02:06:02):
If not this, this guy in the White House is
gonna keep kicking out, keep kicking out black man and
and Rolland guess what, man, I've been watching the videos.

Speaker 1 (02:06:12):
The only someone who's.

Speaker 29 (02:06:14):
Saying it and they forceful and clear directive here is
you that I've seen out on the on the media circuit.
So for those guys who voted for him, hey man,
I came out on the black for for Harris. I
endorsed it in a very very public way down into Atlanta, Georgia,
got up on the stage with it, and I endorsed
the next black people and black farmers to vote for him.

(02:06:37):
And there was some pockets of people rolling that was
arguing with me on some of these conference calls about
about Donald Trump man and they were pissed off when
I came out for a publicly for for for Harris.
And now you can see that I was doing the
right thing. I've done the right thing. And guess what,
they were on the wrong side of the coin, and

(02:06:59):
this resident is gonna be on the wrong side of history.
Just give him a little time, you know what. And
you know, my grandmother would say, there's a there's a
stick sitting up beyonder with your name on it.

Speaker 1 (02:07:10):
If you keep dogging, if you keep dogging people, and.

Speaker 29 (02:07:13):
They nothing in the Bible that you can show me
that is godly about this president man, yep, and what
he's doing the poor people in this country. You're gonna
read what you saw. It's gonna take a little time,
but he's gonna get what he has coming to.

Speaker 3 (02:07:27):
Yeah, Cory Lee, is that the director of the cow
Town Foundation. He real damn quiet, real quiet.

Speaker 1 (02:07:35):
They don't call me Roland. I'm out here. And guess what.
Maybe got an annual conference roll.

Speaker 29 (02:07:39):
You need to come to that annual conference in Birmingham, Alabama,
October thirty first, and.

Speaker 3 (02:07:46):
Literally I'm giving I wish i'd give it a huge
give a speech to the Houston that day.

Speaker 1 (02:07:50):
Well, look, man sent a video son of video.

Speaker 29 (02:07:53):
Okayhead the fact a matter of fact, you can send
that clip you just you just you just done then
introduction to on this, on this and I can play
man Pi.

Speaker 5 (02:08:01):
Well, I'll make a special video for the gonference.

Speaker 22 (02:08:07):
Matt your question, Yeah, real quick, John, You talked about
JD Vance buying land up and I think you said,
are watching some of that land? What is the effect
if you know that's happening with the major companies like
the Cargills and the big agricultural companies.

Speaker 6 (02:08:25):
Is there a boom to them from the smaller farmers
that are closing down?

Speaker 22 (02:08:29):
What you're understanding how big farming is being benefited by
this if at all?

Speaker 29 (02:08:34):
Well, well, thank you for that. And I never get
a chance to talk about corporate America. Corporate America has
totally turned this back on the National Black Farmers Association, Banks, Well, Wells, Fargo,
cog Kill ad, none of those companies have breached back

(02:08:55):
and picked up the farmers, the very people that made
them that come for these billionaires. They're now dumping on
us too. And they went with Trump and they this
anti black thing, anything got something to do with black.
They cut all those companies, cut us off. And matter
of fact, I need to put out a report card
on just how many companies.

Speaker 5 (02:09:15):
Oh hell yeah, oh John, put put the names together.
We will. I will read the name on the show.

Speaker 29 (02:09:22):
Yes, and I can show you the emails and uh
and Wells Fargo said they they couldn't help us because
this organization representing black farmers. That's what you said, not me, rollan,
that's what they said. It should be a shame. It
should be held accountable for coming out.

Speaker 5 (02:09:38):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, please send me the emails.

Speaker 12 (02:09:43):
I do it.

Speaker 29 (02:09:43):
It's all coming to you. But but but thank you
for that question. And now don't get a chance to
do it on these other national circuits. Corporate America get
your damn f minus for siding with Trump.

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
And here's what and here's what they do. They labeled
us DEI and give us names.

Speaker 29 (02:10:02):
For every ten years, our names has changed associate, disadvantage, farmer,
Hey boyd, you got to say farmers and color to
advance your bill on the hill. They change our names
every ten years. And here's what I'm gonna say about
this president. He didn't care what he don't care what
they say. They're going on with their program. And when

(02:10:22):
we get in office, they say, hey boy, you got
to reach across the olitey and they go over there
and get some Republicans man to make anything happen here.
This president didn't care. He's doing it by executive order.
I had a five billion dollars up and rolland knows
all about this. Becauld have done it by executive order,
but they didn't want to do it that way. When
we get into office, we got to move our gender

(02:10:45):
for the populations that got him in office.

Speaker 1 (02:10:47):
I'm gonna say it.

Speaker 5 (02:10:49):
And let's be real clear.

Speaker 3 (02:10:51):
You call yourself the Black Farmer National Black Farmers Association
because you got screwed because the white farmers were getting
all of the money, all of the resources, and so
you will highlighting them. It ain't like the main line
Farmer Association gave a damn. They weren't fighting for the
black farmer. They were fighting for the white farmer. One

(02:11:12):
of the most racists listen, it was a white man,
a white member of Congress, Congressman David Scott, told me
this year David Scott was the first African American to
become chair of the House Agricultural Committee. I think he said,
when Ron Delloms was on this, I forgot long term,
he said. A white member of Congress said to him.

(02:11:34):
If it's one thing that ain't gonna never happen, you
ain't gonna never see a black chair of this committee.

Speaker 5 (02:11:41):
People need to understand the.

Speaker 3 (02:11:43):
Billions of dollars coming out of USDA. Their entire focus
is for white farmers to get that money, white farmers
to get that loan.

Speaker 5 (02:11:55):
They ain't get Listen this.

Speaker 3 (02:11:57):
Saying Democrat is ain't Republican.

Speaker 5 (02:11:59):
This is white. This is about that.

Speaker 3 (02:12:01):
And that's why Marshall Fudge wanted to be Secretary of Agriculture,
and Biden didn't make her. He should have, and he
put the former governor of Iowa. Hell what that his
third time being ag coach Secretary.

Speaker 1 (02:12:16):
Man building, We didn't we didn't want Bill Sack.

Speaker 5 (02:12:18):
I didn't want to, Yeah, Tom, Bill Sack.

Speaker 1 (02:12:20):
So people need to understand and talked about that.

Speaker 5 (02:12:22):
People need to understand USDA.

Speaker 3 (02:12:25):
Actually, y'all has the largest bank in the federal government.
Y'all income that's right, y'all ain't understand how much money
is in the USDA.

Speaker 29 (02:12:36):
One million dollars for the top ten percent, and white
farmers received one million dollars a year annually. And they
called it when black people are getting on the program
or it's welfare. It's all this stuff. White farmers get
one million dollars per farm at the top ten percent
in the US farm's subsecute program. Every subsidy to a

(02:12:56):
black farmer is two hundred dollars, not even on the
same waveland. You know, with farm subsidies in this country,
all this money that went out to white farmers, and
they've been getting it for years and before the NBFA
because guess what, they was out here calling me a nigger,
the man who worked there, they was out there spitting

(02:13:17):
on me.

Speaker 1 (02:13:18):
They was out there seeing black farmers.

Speaker 29 (02:13:21):
One day a week, they was tearing my application up
and throwing it in the trash can. They don't want
to talk about They don't want to talk about that.
They don't want you say anything about black They want
you to get away from it. But they want to
give it all to white farmers. They want to bring
white farmers in from South Africa and give them our
land out of inventory. I say, over my dead body, Roland,
I'm telling you right now, somebody going to take me

(02:13:42):
out of here if they give us the white farmers
from South Africa. I Land, yep, they bought him here,
gave them a path to citizenship. And now this president's
talking about giving them homesteads and farms, things they've never
done in this country for a black man. They bought
me here because solely based somewhere race which is white.
But they don't want to do a damn thing for you,

(02:14:04):
for black men. They don't want to give us out
a land out of the inventory that five billion dollars
for dead belief.

Speaker 1 (02:14:09):
They don't want to do it. But I ain't giving up.
I ain't giving up, and I ain't given them.

Speaker 3 (02:14:13):
Well, listen, we're gonna keep highlighting this as well. This
is why I created this platform for you and others
to be able to come on and to share these
stories that's critic.

Speaker 1 (02:14:24):
Well for you, go man, I'm there. You got to
go below.

Speaker 29 (02:14:26):
This man right here on his screen has been my outlet.
When I got in trouble on the hill and I
couldn't get visibility on. You put me on your television
show on brid Timer, put me in the living rooms
of Black America, and you made them called they're us
senators and we got that. We got that billion dollars
passed in twenty ten. So Ron, you've been out there

(02:14:49):
and how many years ago. Has that been twenty ten?
It was fifteen years ago, man, fifteen years ago, and
I took that partial win, and them same guys beating
me up.

Speaker 1 (02:14:59):
Becaus what I'm gonna keep on taking them? Where has
maybe take me ten years or whatever to get it?

Speaker 29 (02:15:04):
But thanks to people like you, man, who didn't give
up on me and didn't give up on the black
farmers in this country. So I want to say it
on your show, hey Man, a special thank you to
you tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:15:12):
Thanks a lot for John.

Speaker 5 (02:15:13):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (02:15:14):
Keep up the fight. We'll be right there with you.
Thanks a lot, Thanks a lot, brother, I appreciate it.
All right then, so y'all that's it for us. Let
me think, Matt, Let me thank Michael.

Speaker 5 (02:15:23):
Matt. Who y'all losing to this weekend? It was?

Speaker 6 (02:15:27):
It was great being on today, Rowland. You have a
great weekend. Brother.

Speaker 5 (02:15:30):
I'm just checking who y'all all knows we're.

Speaker 6 (02:15:32):
Getting a dog who y'all look lay in Florida this week?

Speaker 5 (02:15:35):
So oh yea, y'all, y'all gonna lose, y'all gonna lose, y'all,
y'all think we're getting that dub billy napier.

Speaker 3 (02:15:39):
He gonna handle that business all right, So I can't
wait to see some more orange tears this weekend.

Speaker 5 (02:15:45):
Michael, thanks a bunch as well. Who the sick was
losing to somebody? All right, that's it for No, We're.

Speaker 1 (02:15:51):
Not gonna lose, and we always look good.

Speaker 9 (02:15:53):
But thanks for having me on all that.

Speaker 3 (02:15:54):
Actually that's said, that's actually not true. You don't always
look good because whatever.

Speaker 5 (02:15:59):
All right, that's it for us, y'all, that's it for us.

Speaker 3 (02:16:04):
Let me think everybody being on today's show, it's some
stuff we didn't get to, but hey, we had lots
of guests, lots of conversations, y'all.

Speaker 5 (02:16:10):
Do y'all understand what y'all saw today?

Speaker 3 (02:16:13):
Diddy Trout, Candas Kelly congress Or, Stephen Horseman Memphis to
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Mainstream cable show. Hell, they ain't gonna have that many
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But here's a deal.

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be willing to use support and finance our own Again,
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Of New Orleans right here on the show, folks. That's it.

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