Elon's war on vets, Judge blocks DOGE social security access, Opioid emergency

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Folks say It's Friday, March twenty first, twenty twenty five,
coming up on Roland Unfiltered streaming live on the Black
Star Network. Vote Vets, a veteran's voter education group, launches
a new campaign ad targeting all Republican House members supporting
Donald Trump's sweeping cuts to the.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Department of Veteran Affairs.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
We'll chat with the vote Vets senior advisor about this campaign.
You want to be stuck on stupid? How about Donald
Trump's Commerce secretary. We were going to show you what
this fool said about senior citizens who might miss their
Social Security check. He thinks it's no big deal because
his rich mother won't complain about it.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
What a dumbass will show you?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
The weird exchange in the Oval office when a Fox
reporter asked the twice impeach criminally convicted felon in chief
Donald the con Trump about Canada in the fifty first state. Y'all,
this man is stupid and a white West Virginia couple
got a combined three hundred and seventy five years in
prison for abusing their black adopted children, treating them as slaves,

(01:20):
and opiod deaths may be decreasing overall, but there is
an organization working to prevent opiod death, specifically in the
black community.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
We'll chat with him about that. Lots of more plussible.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Hear from State Representative Jelana Jones of Texas about the
takeover of the Houston Independent School District of the Texas
Education Agency and while she is still fighting to have
it returned to the voters, it is time to bring
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Speaker 2 (01:51):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
And Winna please. He's right on top and is rolling.
Best believe he's goings lost hows to politics with entertainment.
Just bookcas He's.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Gont it's rolling.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, he's poky stress, she's reeled up. Question. No, he's rolling.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Ponta folks vote.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Bess launched a multi platform ad campaign called Stop Elon's
War on veter The targeting Republican House members. It is
a six figure by that they are taking. Of course,
you've seen massive no of Vetta's being laid off by
Donald Trump and elong Musk.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Watch this a.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
I was at Barnes and Nobles with my two children,
four and ten, and my husband and I received a
text from my coworker, and he said, have you seen
the email?

Speaker 6 (03:19):
I served in the military for over thirty three years,
just accepted a new position in the VIA. Come into
the office, fire up my computer, and I come back
and there's an email.

Speaker 7 (03:28):
Sitting there for me.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
I knew then, I knew what was coming.

Speaker 8 (03:32):
I have not had a single negative performance review in
my ten years.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
That feels like veterans are being personally attacked by Elon musk.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
I did not put my life on the line for
some tech bro billionaire from South Africa to come in
here and try to destroy our country.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
We are going to bear a lot of this, a
lot of this costs with rising costs inflation.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
I'm literally donating Plasmas to buy eggs.

Speaker 9 (03:59):
And our Congress, this person does absolutely nothing.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
Stop Elon's war on veterans.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Now we joined up by vote Vet Senior Advisor Max Rose. Max,
Republicans spend a lot of time craizing the military talking
about our veterans.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Max. Can you hear me? Max? Can you hear me?
I'm sorry, I'm not hearing that.

Speaker 10 (04:24):
Not able to hear you, but it's great to see you.

Speaker 11 (04:28):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Okay? Yes, Max, I can hear you. You can't hear
me at all.

Speaker 11 (04:34):
No, I can hear you.

Speaker 12 (04:35):
I'll talk.

Speaker 10 (04:36):
I can't hear you, but I'll talk a little.

Speaker 12 (04:38):
Bit, all right, and we can.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Okay, go ahead there.

Speaker 13 (04:43):
It's great to see you, my friend, and congrats on
your show. You know, look what has been going on recently.
What we forget is that of the federal veterans, fifty
percent of those individuals are disabled veterans. And these are

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folks that have in many instance made shorty sacrifices, take
an extraordinary risk, all in support of our great nation
and our collective freedoms. And Donald Trump actually praised many
of these individuals during his campaign, right He openly said, hey,
thank you for your service, Thank you for your service.
You're so great. Then turned around and said you're fired.

(05:30):
And that's just such a disgrace. And that's why people
really detest politics, that type of fraudulent lying and dishonesty
and dishonor. And so vote is putting our foot down
and saying this is wrong and making sure that this
message goes out in these critical swing states held by Republicans,

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where particularly those individuals should be showing some degree of
courage and standing up to Donald Trump and to this
horrendous effort. So we're just so grateful that you have
taken the time to shine a light on this as well,
and for your continued support of veterans.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
In addition, all right, Matt, can you hear me?

Speaker 14 (06:12):
Now?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
You still can't hear me. You still can't hear me.

Speaker 10 (06:17):
I still can't hear you.

Speaker 13 (06:18):
But I'm awfully good at reading lips if you want
to go in that direction.

Speaker 7 (06:24):
But I I.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Are all right, So I'm gonna ask one question.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Okay, are you telling other are you telling other vets
that they need to be fighting back every day in
their cities?

Speaker 7 (06:43):
You know, I wish I had heard what you said.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
But let me let me just let me just close
up saying this. Uh.

Speaker 10 (06:54):
I had the opportunity to spend some time.

Speaker 12 (06:55):
With these individuals.

Speaker 15 (06:57):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (06:57):
Well, A, it's a Capitol.

Speaker 13 (07:00):
Hill and they have families, they have financial responsibilities, and
they've just been fired.

Speaker 7 (07:09):
And that's a really scary moment.

Speaker 13 (07:11):
And anyone that's been through that, anyone can imagine that
we can relate how scary that is. And to a
t what each of these individuals said, though, is this
is not about me. This is about our country. It's
about my fellow vets. And I was blown away by that,
and I shouldn't have been, because that's who veterans are.
That level of selflessness, that courage, that commitment to country.

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That's why they served in the first place, put on
our nation's uniform, and that's when when they got home
they said, we want to continue to serve. So many
of them had, you know, just were recently promoted. That's
why they were on this probationary status in the first place,
which made them, I guess under the DOGE.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Target.

Speaker 13 (07:56):
It's everything that's great about our country, and that's everything
that we need in our government.

Speaker 10 (08:03):
But these folks, they're not looking for efficiencies.

Speaker 13 (08:07):
They're looking for radical change to bring our country back,
not forward, and that's something worth standing up to and
a posing. So thank you again for your coverage of
this important issue, and I look forward to another conversation.

Speaker 7 (08:19):
Where hopefully I can actually hear you.

Speaker 10 (08:21):
But I appreciate the opportunity to talk to you though.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Thanks all right, Max, I appreciate it, Thank you so
very much. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
I'm going to bring in Michael m Hotep, hosts African
History Network show out of Detroit. Avis Jones, the Weaver,
author of How Exceptional Black Women Lead, Unlocking the secrets
to creating phenomenal success in career and in life, and
also Matt Manning, civil rights attorney out of Corpus Christie.
I mean, let's just be real clear here. We don't

(08:54):
have Avis yet should be joining us. Matt is real clear.
These folks are liars. They're massive liars. Donald Trump never
gave a damn about the military. He skipped military service.
Uh he uh was not thinking about them. Uh he
he played them for fools. And the Vets who supported him,
they're now realizing he never gave a damn about them.

(09:17):
This man crapped on POWs, He crapped on Senator John McCain.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Uh he.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
He refused to go to the cemetery when they were
when they were in France. Some man doesn't give a
damn about the military.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
He never has.

Speaker 8 (09:31):
No he's he's leveraged them to the end of you know,
the political support end. And I do not understand this strategically.
This is one of those things where I can't really
see what the GOP strategy is with doing exactly what
you said, which is acting as though they cared about
the military, acting as though they cared about the gold

(09:52):
Star families and veterans and all of these uh, you
know people, and then cutting the kind of pulling the
rug out from under them.

Speaker 10 (09:59):
I don't understand that logic.

Speaker 8 (10:00):
Especially because that's a contingent of people that's kind of
just heralded in our society, So it makes no sense
why you would do this to them.

Speaker 10 (10:10):
One of my partners is actually a veteran.

Speaker 8 (10:12):
He's an air former Air Force officer, and he wanted
the Supreme Court a couple of years ago on an
issue related to a Texas DPS trooper who was an
army person who got injured while he was in Iraq
and in Afghanistan, and when he came back, the State
of Texas treated him just piss poor. And what I'm
getting at is, both on the state side and on

(10:34):
the federal side, what you see is this rhetoric that's
very supportive of a military, this rhetoric that's very supportive
of the veterans to the point of being jingoistic, patriotic,
to the point where if you're not in lockstep with us,
you're an.

Speaker 10 (10:48):
Enemy of ours.

Speaker 8 (10:49):
But in reality, we're cutting money from veterans and cutting
money from veterans programs. And I don't know what that's
going to look like in the midterms, but that to
me seems to be a failed strategy for the GOLP
because this is one of those key contingencies in their
base that is going to vote for Trump and has
voted for Trump, and it seems like he's just cutting

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the rugout from under them to his own detriment.

Speaker 10 (11:11):
I don't understand that.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Well.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
I don't understand why Democrats are not being far more
aggressive with this, Michael, because the reality is this here.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
They were massive support for.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
The Veterans Administration, for the Pentagon under President Biden, and
it was there under Obama as well. When you talk
about the burn Pitts Bill that was signed that Republicans opposed.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
So they should be far more aggressive.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Blasting Donald Trump, Elon Musk, jd Vance, and the others
for attacking veterans. This is an opening that can have
an impact. You've got the two congressional special elections in
Florida one in New York. You've got good matorial races
later this year as well. This is what you do.
This is how you frankly beat them over the head

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when it comes to their cuts.

Speaker 16 (12:00):
Absolutely, and this is one of the reasons why last week,
I think last Friday was when we talked about Senator
Chuck caved in Schumer and why I said it was
wrong for Chuck caved in Schumer to cave in, because
what Chuck didn't say is about unleashing Republican voters who
are showing up to these town hall meetings that Republicans

(12:22):
a few Republicans continue to have Republican Chuck Edwards and
their voters are pissed off. You let those Republicans go
deal with the Republicans that they voted into office. You
don't have to try to figure out a pathway out
of this. So the veterans are an example of this.
You have veterans who are showing up to these Republican

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town hall meetings saying, we did not.

Speaker 11 (12:46):
Vote for this. We did not vote for you to.

Speaker 16 (12:49):
Take our rights away from us, to fire us, We
did not vote for Elon Musk.

Speaker 11 (12:53):
You correct.

Speaker 16 (12:54):
Donald Trump, just like many dictators love their generals, he
referred to them as my generals. I don't know if
any other president in the modern era that referred to
generals as my generals. He got five deferments, and he
actually said his Vietnam was avoiding getting STDs in the

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nineteen seventies. I don't know if he was successful in
avoiding getting STDs.

Speaker 11 (13:19):
We'll see, maybe we need.

Speaker 16 (13:20):
To have somebody do an investigation on that. And remember also,
at the same time they're firing veterans, you have an
attack on DEI in the Pentagon.

Speaker 11 (13:33):
You have Charles c. Q.

Speaker 16 (13:35):
Brown who was fired, and Donald Trump at first liked them,
but then he said, oh, he supports DEI.

Speaker 11 (13:41):
Okay. So you see this all across the board. You
see Pete.

Speaker 16 (13:45):
Hexaf replaced Lloyd Austin. Lloyd Austin four star general. Pete
Hexaf is not even qualified at the time Lloyd Austin's shoelaces.

Speaker 11 (13:56):
So all of this is an insult to veterans.

Speaker 16 (14:00):
So yeah, this is a big opening for Democrats. But
at the same time, we're going to need some different
type of Democrats, those who want to fight and know
how to fight. And you see many of them stepping up.
Representative jas Mincrockett, Alexandri Cazio Cortez. You see Bernie Sanders,
even though I have been critical about him, in the

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past you see Bernie Sanders and AOC on their fight
oligarchy tour, et cetera.

Speaker 11 (14:27):
So this is a huge open right for Democrats.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Well, and again the bottom line is this is about
you know, how you fight and then how you target
folks when it comes to that. And so hopefully again
they are going to realize that you really really can
really get folks focused on what is happening now. Elon
Musk Dulge gets hits with another legal defeating federal judge

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temporarily blocked the agency from accessing system that the Social
Security Administration that contained the sensitive information millions of Americans,
delivering another set back to Donald Trump. Used District Judge
Ellen Hollander wrote a one hundred and thirty seven page
decision that a group of unions challenging Doge's access to
these Social Security agencies record systems which are likely to

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succeed on its claims that the efforts violated the Privacy
Act and a federal law that governs the agency rulemaking process.
The judge granted a temporary restraining order requested by the
labor unions. In February, they filed a lawsuit challenging the
legality of the SSA's decision to allow DOSEE to access
sensitive personal and confidential information about millions of Americans. Now,

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let's talk about this whole deal with Social Security. If
y'all want to see some sheer stupidity, check this out.
In a podcast, Donald Trump's Commerce secretary, billionaire Howard Lutnik,
who ran Cantor Fitzgerald on Wall Street, literally had this
message for seniors if they don't get their Social Security.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Checks on time, listen to this.

Speaker 15 (15:58):
Let's say Social Security didn't send out their checks this month.
My mother in law, who's ninety four, she wouldn't call
and complain, She just wouldn't. She thinks something got messed
up and she'll get it next month. A fraudster always

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makes the loudest noise, screaming, yelling.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
And complaining.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Okay, I want you all to hear that again because
I need you to listen with this billionaire.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Just say it. Listen.

Speaker 15 (16:32):
Let's say so Security didn't send out their checks this month.
My mother in law, who's ninety four, she wouldn't call
and complain, she just wouldn't.

Speaker 11 (16:44):
She thinks something got messed up and she'll get it
next month.

Speaker 15 (16:48):
A fraudster always makes the loudest noise, screaming, yelling and complaining.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Listen, am, did y'all hear that?

Speaker 1 (17:04):
So about ninety four year of mother in law? She's
not gonna complain, You're a billionaire. This is the crass, shameful,
despicable stuff that comes from these idiots. There are people
who when we say depend on that Social Security check,

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it cannot be a few days late.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Oh, she's not gonna call. She won't say anything. She's
just gonna yell at me.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
How callous crass can you be? Seventy three million Americans
depend on.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Social Security checks. There are people who literally live check.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
To check, and these assholes say stuff like this, Michael, you.

Speaker 16 (17:58):
First, Howard Lutnik billionaire is a reflection of how Donald
Trump thinks about many of these people who voted for them.
They're screwing them over, so they don't care about these people.
They use them as ponds to get in the office,
so they can so they can get as much money.

Speaker 11 (18:16):
As they can.

Speaker 16 (18:17):
However however it is, and they don't care who they hurt.
But those seventy three million people on Social Security they
need to organize, They need to protest. But also go
to FEC dot gov Federal Elections Commission and look at
the top two or three corporations that financed Trump's campaign

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and launch economic boy nationwide economic boycotts against them to
hurt them economically.

Speaker 11 (18:44):
But these people do not care at all, Matt.

Speaker 10 (18:52):
I mean, I think y'all said it. I think it's callous.

Speaker 8 (18:54):
And again from a political strategy point, I really do
not understand why on earth that they would do anything
to affect Social Security and have this kind of rhetoric
regarding Social Security because in my view, this to me,
seems to be the greatest risk to.

Speaker 10 (19:11):
Their efficacy in the.

Speaker 8 (19:12):
Midterms and continuing forward, because you start messing with people's
social Security checks. I haven't crossed referenced the data, but
I surmise that the people who get Social Security are
also in the contingent of people who vote most consistently right.
So maybe you're claiming your ninety four year old mother
is not going to call and complain, but there's a
pretty large swath of people who will be receiving Social

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Security checks, and if they're not getting that check, they're
not going to forget that when they go to the
ballot box next and I don't understand why on earth
you would tinker with that. And to address the legal
part of this issue, it's interesting that we're discussing this
because I listen to this podcast called We the People.

Speaker 10 (19:50):
It's all about constitutional issues.

Speaker 8 (19:53):
And it's put on by the National Constitution Center, and
they were discussing those the other day. And even in
the legal circles, there's a p pretty pretty clear, you know,
schism on whether what DOZE is doing is constitutional and
legal and whether it's not. And there's some lawyers out
there that are arguing pretty vehemently that the president is
able to allow Elon Musk to do this. I tell

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you that to say, I'm glad that we had this
win from the federal judges, but if the federal judges
don't hold the line, there's not going to be any
check whatsoever on this. And it's crazy that DOZE is
plugging into agencies getting you know, secure data that is
really to me, doesn't seem to be germane to the
question of whether there's waste and fraud and all these
things that are allegedly looking for. It looks like it's

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a land grab, as Michael said, because we know that
data is, you know, today's goal.

Speaker 10 (20:40):
That's what these companies use to make money.

Speaker 8 (20:42):
So I'm hoping that the federal judges continue to hold
the line as this one did. But there are a
lot of legal thinkers out there who are thinking that
this is permissible.

Speaker 10 (20:50):
And that's a scary thought in and of.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Itself, absolutely crazy. All Right, folks, got to go to break.
We'll be right back, rolland unfiltered right here in the
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Speaker 17 (21:06):
Next on the Black Table with me Greg Carr succession.
We're hearing that word pop up a lot these days
as our country continues to fracture and divide. But did
you know that that idea, essentially of breaking up of
the USA has been part of the public debate since
long before and long after the Civil War, right up

(21:28):
to today. On our next show, you'll meet Richard Crich,
the author of this book, who says breaking up this
great experiment called America might not be.

Speaker 11 (21:38):
Such a bad thing.

Speaker 17 (21:39):
That's on the next Black Table right here on the
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Week on the other side of change.

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Let's talk vote Blue no matter how.

Speaker 19 (21:48):
We need political imagination more than ever, and unfortunately, some
people on the Democratic side really are discouraging that we're
going to dig into.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
All of this.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
The Democratic Party needs to remember who.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
They are and you they are responsible to.

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This is on the other side of change, only on
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Now that Roland Martin is ruling to give me the
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The only way I can do what I'm doing. I
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So you'll see me working with Roland.

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Matter of fact, it's a Roland Martin and Searlndon show.
Well it should be the show Lund show at show. Well,
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let's get on to our next story again. The sheer

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madness that we see taking place in Washington, DC is astounding,
and every day it's something else.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
It's another thing.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Now the Department of Justice another top prosecutor with years
of experience, has resigned and mad major changes from these idiots.
In an interview with NPR, Sean Murphy, who served in
the group that prosecuted crimes stemming from the January sixth attacks,
said quote, it just was not a Department of Justice
that I any longer wanted to be associated with. He's
a veteran prosecutor previously worked for the Bronx District Attorney

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in New York.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
In New York.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
In twenty eighteen, during Trump's first term, he joined the
Year's Attorney's office in Puerto Rico and worked on drug
trafficking and illegal gun prosecutions. Most recently, he served in
the Department of Justices Capital Siege Section, which prosecuted more
than fifteen hundred people for crimes stemming from the January six,
twenty twenty one domestic terrorists attack on the US Capitol.
Now what we know is Donald Trump, of course he

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partoned all of those individuals.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
That's what you see.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Now if you really want to understand something that it's
really crazy, and that is this this agreement that he's
struck with major law firm Paul Wise. Now here his
what's crazy about this year. So Donald Trump signed an
executive order targeting law firms linkl democrats, law firms that

(24:20):
represented progressive organizations.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, so here's what happened. He specifically named them.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Now, nearly every legal scholar says the executive order is
simply illegal. But Paul Wise decided, hey, you know what,
we can't chance it, so let's negotiate a deal. Now,
the firm is called Paul Wise Rifkin Wharton in Garrison.
All right, so it's chairman. It's chairman. Brad carp actually

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went to the White House in the Oval Office, met
with Trump, and they came to an agreement. In exchange
for Donald Trump dropping this executive order, they would agree
to forty million dollars in pro bono legal services for
Trump approved causes. Trump also attacked in the executive order

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a former.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Law partner of Paul.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Wise who have gone to work for the New York
for the District Attorney's Office in New York. And he said, oh,
that DA that prosecutor, that former partner was corrupt, was unfair.
So then he claims that he got an apology from
the chairman of this law firm. Well, guess what legal

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Folks across the country are shocked that of the capitulation
of Paul Wise. They're like, what the hell are you
guys doing? But this goes to show you the corrupt
nature of the thug in chief. He is on a
retribution to campaign. He is targeting enemies, he is using

(25:56):
the power of the office to target private company law
firms and others. And guess what Republicans are saying nothing.
They're saying nothing. In a moment, I'm gonna play for y'all,
eclipse from a town hall of from Iowa, from Iowa,
of Chuck Grashley, who is the Senate Judiciary Committee chair, Okay,

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And folks are like.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
You're gonna call this unlawful stuff out. This is a
lawless administration and they don't care. We are operating in
a dictatorship. That's what's going on here, Matt. I'm gonna
start with you. For this major law firm to fold
the way they did. And when you see media companies
folding and other people, basically they're all saying, we are

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scared to death of this man, Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
So we're just gonna bend over and take it. You
agree to forty million dollars in pro bono services for
stuff that Trump approves.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
What the hell?

Speaker 10 (26:59):
Yeah, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 8 (27:01):
And I didn't read anything that Paul Weiss put out.
I actually read about this what you're talking about with
the forty million dollar pro bono in a Facebook group
for lawyers lawyers all across the country, and overwhelmingly the
comments were people excoriating Paul Weiss. How dare you? If
anybody's going to stand up, it's got to be us.
This is what we do for a living. We fight

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for a living in courtrooms every day on behalf of people.
And if anyone knows the mechanisms to stand up for yourself,
it should be lawyers. So for a major law firm
like this to capitulate in this way is abhorrent, and
especially to try to sanitize it by saying, oh, the
forty million dollars are going to be for in pro
bono is going to be for things like I think

(27:43):
veteran services and some other stuff that you know. They
were trying to kind of spin it and make it
seem like it's not as bad as it is. But
what it comes down to is they are giving in
to this dictator. And what I don't understand is how
law firms of this magnitude of this, you know, level
of respect don't say absolutely not, you can't punk us

(28:03):
that way on the world stage. But when they capitulate,
when Schumer capitulates, when all of these people capitulate, all
it does is give more gravity to the idea that
he can keep playing the game this way, because look,
with a bully, you normally got to punch a bully
in the nose. Somebody's got to stand up to him,
and if you don't stand up to him, he's going
to keep doing what he wants to do.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
So I don't.

Speaker 8 (28:25):
Understand why Paul Whites took this tack, but I was
heartened to see that lawyers across the country thought that
this was terrible and they were calling him out, like,
you know, you can't spend this to me, like it's
going to be a benefit from the pro bono money
if anybody should have stood up at you, because you
have the kind of platform and the kind of gravitas
to stand up and make a difference.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
I mean, here's also what's happening here, Michael.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
A lot of these firms refuse to also represent Donald
Trump in many of his legal cases, and so he's
now attacking them. There's a letter that some former Paul
Wise workers are working on and this is from the
Bulward sam Stein has his piece, uh and uh and

(29:08):
and and the the letter says here, I had some
degree of faith at the firm I loved and thought
I knew so well would stand by the ethos that
recruited me there in the first place. A place filled
with fearless advocates who valued.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
The rule of law.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
A place with a storied history where merit, judgment, and
principle were prized above all else. A place that elevated
women attorneys, black attorneys, Jewish attorneys, and unpetty petty greed,
petty penny greed and unconnected attorneys decades before any political
or capitalistic win would justify doing so. A place that

(29:48):
lied with professionalism and a deep faith that doing what
is right will in the long run dove tail with
what is financially, professionally and reputationally successful. Here here's what's
what Donald Trump and the Republicans are trying to do.
They are trying to attack any potential adversary. And so

(30:09):
the capitulation of all the tech companies, all of them
showing up, and what have they gotten in return? The
dropping of cases against Amazon, the dropping of cases against Google,
the dropping of cases against Elon Musk and other.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Companies as well.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
So what Donald Trump is saying, I am going to
severely handicap and shut down and limit any potential enemies.
So therefore I will have free reign to do whatever
it is I desire.

Speaker 16 (30:39):
Yeah, well, this is what the criminal dictators do. And
this is what we were warning people about before the
election and what the stakes were, what the consequences were,
and we told people this second Trump administration was going
to be much worse than the first one. All you
have to do is just read one chapter of Project

(31:00):
twenty twenty five. So here we see this attack on
this law firm and really a shakedown, getting them to
provide forty million dollars in pro bono legal services.

Speaker 11 (31:17):
And it was spurred by a.

Speaker 16 (31:19):
By an executive order which probably is not even legal
in the first place. Okay, so you know this is
we We're in deep trouble.

Speaker 11 (31:29):
We're in deep trouble.

Speaker 16 (31:32):
America has not really been in this situation, well American
has America, we haven't dealt with a dictator since seventeen
seventy five with the beginning of the American Revolution, and
the thirteen Conties were voting against King George the Third.
So hopefully you have some courageous attorneys.

Speaker 11 (31:57):
Who realize you cannot pitch to a dictator.

Speaker 16 (32:02):
We just saw the story late this afternoon about Columbia
University giving some concessions to Donald Trump and to try
to get back at the hundred million dollars that he
withheld from withheld from them, another dictator move. So you
know this is this is like the fight of our

(32:23):
lives right now.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, And I just need people to understand that what
they want to do is they want to act as thugs.
They want to act like mafia. Don that's what you
got going on here. This was a town hall in
Iowa where people stood up to Republican Senator Chuck Grassley

(32:51):
and demand to know why in the hell was he
not being more aggressive in calling out the lawlessness of
these thugs.

Speaker 7 (33:03):
And violation of the Constitution.

Speaker 21 (33:05):
My question to you is why do you believe the
President Trump is above the law?

Speaker 4 (33:12):
And I'll just reinforce what other people.

Speaker 7 (33:14):
Have been saying here.

Speaker 12 (33:15):
Why have you not spoken out for it?

Speaker 22 (33:27):
Do your job, and we have trusted you with our votes.

Speaker 12 (33:31):
We have sent you to Congress for decades.

Speaker 21 (33:34):
We expect you to follow through what we awans wally
want our government to do and not to be have
a federal government that is being dismantled by this President Trump,
and please just stand up for what's right and do
your job.

Speaker 23 (34:00):
You statement gives me a wonderful opportunity to explain to
you that constantly every.

Speaker 7 (34:07):
Time I go from my office.

Speaker 23 (34:10):
To the center floor, there's journalists by the not by
the dozens, but by a couple dozen that are there
to ask me questions all the time, and I take
time to answer their questions, and I never see anything
in print that I ever say to them.

Speaker 7 (34:28):
So I have to assume that you don't need a
chance unless you do a vast amount of reading that.

Speaker 23 (34:37):
You never see anything that I say to the journalists
in Washington, DC.

Speaker 12 (34:44):
So this is why on.

Speaker 23 (34:48):
Weekend I put out something on my website.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
Called the School.

Speaker 23 (34:55):
That carries all the things that I have said or
speeches I give on the four, the United States seven or.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
Press releases because I can't count on the.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Michael Here's why Chuck Grass is full of shit. I
am literally scrolling through his Twitter feed and I'm at
February seventh, and he's got stuff about heart disease. He's
got stuff about the Post Office.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Chairman Grassey discusses Pam Bonnie's commitment to the Constitution as
Bonnie takes the reins at DOJ And I'm sitting here
and I'm scrolling. Oh, he's got all this stuff about
a whistle blower against Hunter Biden being promoted at the IRS.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Oh, whistle blower.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Provides records to dealing with Jack Smith.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Let's see here. Hmm, let's see senior this year.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Chairman Chuck Grassey discusses cash Ptales nomination the FBI Director
of pteil is the right change agent for the FBI.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I'm still going through. There is nothing. See.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I need everybody who's watching and listening to understand what
he did.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Well, you know, when I come ome, I mean, you know,
all these reporters are out there, and I talked to
these reporters, and so you know, so I say these
things and these reporters don't report.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Do y'all know how bullshit that is? Let me explain
to everybody who's watching. So y'all really understand what I'm
talking about. If Senator Chuck Grassley, who chairs the Senate
Judiciary Committee, talk to a reporter and said to a
reporter and he criticized the lawless actions of Donald Trump

(36:40):
and Elon Musk and Maga and Stephen Miller and JD Vance,
I can guarantee y'all, there would be headlines.

Speaker 11 (36:50):
There would be video, there would be stories. He stood
in front.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Of those people and lied. Michael, Oh no, it's the
media's fault. I'm saying saying these things. I'm sorry all
of you back home can't hear these things because guess what,
the media, they're not reporting it.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
It's their fault.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Okay, Chuck, explain to me then, why I see nothing
on your Senate feed, Twitter feed, I see nothing on
your personal feed.

Speaker 11 (37:23):
You're a damn liar.

Speaker 16 (37:26):
Absolutely, Chuck Grassley is a liar and a coward. And
if you remember the last time that he ran for reelection,
he was on the campaign trail with Donald Trump as well.
Chuck Grassley knows better. He's been in the Senate for decades.
I think he's in the early nineties.

Speaker 11 (37:45):
He knows better. But he's a coward.

Speaker 16 (37:47):
And this is what someone as corrupt as Donald Trump does,
he corrupts people around him. But at the same time,
you cannot be empower and be a coward because you're
going to back down from a tyrant. So those people
there were were absolutely correct to call Chuck Grassley out.

(38:08):
I want to know, Chuck Grassey, where your sit down
interviews with Fox News where you where you called out
this corruption, you called out Donald Trump, and you called
out Elon Musk. I'm sure you've done some sit down
interviews more than just uh uh reporters in passing asking
you questions in the halls of the of the US Senate.

Speaker 11 (38:27):
So yeah, he absolutely lied.

Speaker 16 (38:29):
And the other thing, Roland, I think that very soon
you're going to start seeing some of these Republican constituents
initiating recall elections from members of the House of Representatives
and members of the US Senate who they have deemed
have betrayed them. I think I think you're going to

(38:49):
start seeing that.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Well, remember the recall elections can only take place if
state law allows that. So I don't know what I
don't I don't know, I don't know in what places
you can actually a recall election of a member of Congress.
Now there's certain states, California, you see recall elections of
mayors of DA's or the governor. But I don't know
about members of Congress. But Matt, this is the thing

(39:14):
that cracks me. He's literally good.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
It's the media. It reminds me of Chris Rock that
bringing the pay It's the media. It's the media. It's
the media's fault.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
We all know that if gradually called out some of
these actions, it.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Will be walla wall coverage.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
This man is, he is gas logging these people and
just staying there and lying. And I'm glad to see
that you got Republicans, I says.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Another video.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
It was from a town hall in Wyoming, because you know,
the former Wyoming Senator Alan Simpson passed away on March fourteenth,
and this woman stood up and she said, you know,
I am a Alan Simpson Republican, and she was going off.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
She was a veteran, was going off.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
And so this heat needs to continue, and the Republicans can.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Keep trying to say these are Soros funded protests. They
learning real quick. No, na, Na, it's y'all Republicans. It's
some pissed off Republicans.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
And I keep saying, Matt, Matt, the only way these
things change if more and more white people.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Get pissed off.

Speaker 11 (40:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (40:19):
And to that end, this morning, consider this NPR ran
a story on podcasts about farming and how uncertain things
are for farmers and agriculture in the United States. Well,
the state of Iowa and twenty twenty two, twenty two
percent of its GDP came from agriculture, corn, soybeans, and
other crops. You know, when you're imposing tariffs, that makes

(40:41):
it such that, you know, other countries don't want to
buy these crops, especially when, for instance, when I was
listening this morning, if Brazil has a big soybean crop,
you know, American soybean farmers have significant issues moving their crops.
It makes it much harder when the government is working
actively against USDA, as we've seen reports where they're not

(41:01):
honoring previous contracts and they're not you know, earmarking the
same number, same amount of money. And to that end,
I'm on the local food bank here in my area,
and I read a New York Times article today that
said that Feeding America, which is the organization over food banks,
is expecting considerably less money this year from the USDA,

(41:22):
which will mean that far fewer people can get food
from food banks. And I think in Iowa, especially in
a place like Iowa where it's ethnically homogeneous for the
most part, primarily white people there, you know they're feeling
the effects of these Trump policies on the ground because
many of them are receiving farm subsidies. They're ninety seven
thousand farms in Iowa. So I'm sure somebody in that

(41:43):
room with Chuck Grassley is connected to a farm that
does not know how it's going to move its crop.
And when the government is not helping you, and that's
what the government has done for decades, you know you're
feeling it on the ground, the effect of those policies.

Speaker 10 (41:56):
So it doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 8 (41:58):
And I think this is exactly the kind of thing
that needs to take fire across the United States.

Speaker 10 (42:02):
And you need to see exactly what you're saying.

Speaker 8 (42:04):
This is not sorols, Democrats, this is not AOC or
whomever you're trying to make the far left.

Speaker 10 (42:10):
You know, this scary, bad Marxist.

Speaker 8 (42:12):
This is the person down the road from you whom
you think is a normal American or you know, the
prototypical white American who is realizing that now they voted
for a person who is working actively against their interests
despite what they were told. So we're seeing that and
for Grassley to stay in there and act like, oh,
it's the media, when what's really happening is all of

(42:33):
these cowards in Congress and in government are afraid that
they're going to draw trump'shire, so they're just rubber stamping everything,
which makes no sense to me, because if all of
them stood against him and said, look, man, you don't
got that kind of juice, then they would be able
to make things happen in a way that they're not
completely cutting out their base and completely just capitulating to
the authoritarianism that we're seeing. So I think it's going

(42:55):
to require profiles and courage, not only from Democrats, not
only from people on the other side, but from people
within that party, and we just are not seeing that yet.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
So if y'all want to see this year stupidity, and
again the dumbass in chief is Donald Trump in the
Oval office. Today Fox News is Peter Doocey asked the
idiot whether he would be concerned about whether Canada became.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
A state. I just want you all to stand.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Canada is a country, a country now, A huge part
of America was created through the Louisiana Purchase. Texas had
a revolution over slavery as that became independent from Mexico

(43:52):
and later joined the United States. So this idea that, oh, yeah,
Canada is just going to be become a f the
first state, it's crazy. This is also stupid, and this
is why these right wingers are really dumb because they
go along with Trump. Do y'all understand that if Canada
became a state, Canada would have two Democratic United States

(44:16):
centers and Canada would have so many congressional seats the
Democrats would control the House. But don't mind the facts.
So this is only for comedic purposes. In fact, Control room,
I need y'all to change the lower third. And to

(44:39):
change that lower third, Okay, I need that lower third
to say this is for comedic purpose only, this is
for comedic This is for comedic purposes only.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Yeah, no, no, no, don't get rid of that. Rid of that.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I need that lower third to say this is for
comedic or entertainment purposes only. That's what I wanted, That's
what I want the bottom to say. See I'm gonna
take y'all back when I was when I was at CNN,
we were talking about Donald Trump and now and I
said this. I said, anytime Trump comes to this network,
we should have crawled the bottom and say this is

(45:21):
for irritating purposes only. And Ken Jouts, who was executive
vice president, literally sent me an email telling me not
to criticize Donald Trump when he was coming on the network.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
And I was like, are you serious, y'all?

Speaker 1 (45:36):
That was literally the executive vice president at CNN who
sent me that email.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Uh. And so.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
This was let me when y'all have it ready, because
I wanted I'm not gonna run this video unless it's
at the bottom. But this dumb ass just sits there
and just says stuff, d yo, yeah, and then and
then y'all gonna hear something in there.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Well, I don't know. Oh how was this perfect line
drawn to create the border? I keep telling y'all, this
man is stupid. I mean, you know, Robert Kennedy Junior

(46:19):
ad minute to having a worm in his brain. I
think this fool got a worm in his brain.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Because I swear he says some of the dumbest stuff
you've ever heard in your life.

Speaker 24 (46:34):
Oh yeah, you know, we're you know, just we I
don't know. They just drew a line. They just just
just drew a line and it was perfect. And how
did they come up with the line?

Speaker 2 (46:44):
So y'all'll have it ready yet, because I gotta go
ahead play it? All right, let's go ahead and play it.

Speaker 22 (46:53):
Are you concerned that if they became the fifty first
state they would be a very very blue state, very
very big, and very very well.

Speaker 18 (47:01):
Now there might be, but it would you know, you
have that artificial line that goes that straight, artific that
looked like it was drawn by a ruler, somebody with
a I don't mean a ruler like a king.

Speaker 12 (47:12):
I mean like a ruler, like a ruler this way.

Speaker 18 (47:16):
And it's just an artificial line that was drawn in
the sand or in the ice.

Speaker 12 (47:22):
And you know, can I tell Peter just you add
that to this country?

Speaker 18 (47:27):
What a beautiful landmss the most beautiful land masts anywhere
in the world, and it was just cut off for
whatever reason.

Speaker 12 (47:34):
It would be great?

Speaker 10 (47:35):
Now, is it liberal?

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Maybe?

Speaker 18 (47:37):
But you know, a conservative Until I got involved, because
I don't care who wins up there, I frankly probably
would do better with a Liberal than the Conservative, if
you want another truth. But just a little while ago
before I got involved and totally changed the election, which
I don't care about.

Speaker 10 (47:55):
Probably our advantage actually, but the.

Speaker 18 (47:58):
Conservative was leading against I call him Governor Trudeau. The
Conservative was leading by thirty five points, so you know,
so I don't know about that. I think Canada is
a place, like a lot of other places, if you
have a good candidate, the candidate is.

Speaker 23 (48:12):
Going to win.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Now we already know this fool can't read, so he
has no idea that the French used to control that
area now known as Canada. Then that was a war
and they handed it over to Great Britain, and then

(48:51):
a law was passed creating the province of Canada, and
that's what led to Canada becoming its own country. So
he's talking about a line being drawn. Do y'all realize

(49:20):
that that territory now known as Canada days back to
fifteen thirty four.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Fifteen thirty four.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
You know, it's real hard for me to have to
deal with stupid people. So if the province, what we
now know is the country of Canada dates back to

(50:05):
fifteen thirty four, Madame Michael do do y'all.

Speaker 16 (50:13):
Know when the Pilgrim showed up, that'll have been sixteen.
We're talking about sixteen twenty on the Mayflower.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Eighty years later, eighty years later.

Speaker 25 (50:34):
This fold. How was this perfect line just drawn?

Speaker 1 (50:46):
The area existed before the United States existed. Hm, this
is precisely why, Michael, these idiots want to get rid
of the Department of Education.

Speaker 11 (51:06):
This is why.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
This is what, this is what, this is why they
want to ban books.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
This is why these dumb ass right wingers.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I mean, I just saw a video of some dumb
ass white couple in Texas whose child died from.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
The measles and they were like, well, we still don't
believe in vaccines, and it was God's will for our
for our child to spend a few years they did
unearthed these people.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
The Republican Party appeals to stupid people.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
And you shouldn't call voter stupid.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Yes, I can call people stupid who exhibit stupid tendencies.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
And they love this idiot. They love this fool who
can't read. They just love You're just a perfect line
that was just drawn.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
We have a dumb ass sitting in the Oval Office
making monumental decisions and seventy one percent of the voters
in the last election were white.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
And these white.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Folks just love this dumb ass sitting there saying stuff
like this.

Speaker 16 (52:26):
Yeah, well, we remember a few years ago Donald Trump
says said he loves the uneducated, and this is an
example why he absolutely does. He's ignorant of history.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Uh. He his wheelhouse. He'll mentioned the uneducated is his wheelhouse.

Speaker 11 (52:43):
Yep. Uh, he'll talk about seventeen seventy six.

Speaker 16 (52:46):
But he's probably ignorant of the Missouri Compromise of eighteen
twenty or the Cancers Nebraska Act of eighteen fifty four,
the Compromise of eighteen fifty which allowed which reorganized the
land that the US got from Mexico from the Treaty
of Guadalupe Hbdago of eighteen forty eight, which ended the
Mexican American War.

Speaker 11 (53:06):
He's ignorant of all of this.

Speaker 16 (53:07):
But this is also why you have a direct attack
on the US Department of Education, even though the Department
of Education does not set curriculum that's set at the
state and local level, but also the attack on higher education.
Dictators cannot control people who are highly educated, who understand

(53:30):
how law works and things like this. So this is
a concerted effort to continue to dumb down Americans, and
Americans are very ignorant that history, law, politics, how the
economy works, things like this, but Trump wants them even dumber.

Speaker 11 (53:45):
Okay.

Speaker 16 (53:46):
So when we look at this attack on the Department
of Education once again, this goes back to the fight
after Brown versus Board of Education and the irs threatening
to take away the nonprofit status of these Christian schools,
these segregation academies that refuse to desegregate and were using

(54:11):
vouchers giving them the poor white children to keep the
school segregated. Okay, And then when the Prominent Education is
created in nineteen seventy nine by Congress signing the law,
but President Jimmy Carter, you had immediate backlash to it
by conservatives. Ronald Reagan wanted to dismantle the Department of Education.
He didn't do it, but now you have Donald Trump

(54:32):
trying to fulfill that promise. And this moved back to
this divide between the South and the North as well.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
No, no, no, it really goes through the divide of
smart and dumb.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Matt. I mean, I'm sorry, I just I can't see.
We love to sit here I don't know. We shouldn't
say that about people. We shouldn't say that because, you know,
we should be listening to them. No, I'm sorry. I
don't know about y'all. But if I I'm at a
dinner conversation and somebody is just dumb and they're just

(55:05):
saying dumb stuff, I just can't sit there and front
and listen to it and go hmm, that's an interesting point. Sorry,
I can't. I just don't have it in me.

Speaker 12 (55:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (55:16):
But see, I think it's way more sinister than smart
and dumb, because yeah, I don't think Trump is particularly smart,
but the people he surrounded himself with are smart at
trying to do whatever they can to be dastardly and evil.

Speaker 10 (55:27):
And that's leverage uneducated people.

Speaker 8 (55:30):
I mean, that's the only reason there'd be more white
people on welfare and people would vote against you know,
welfare programs, right because white people in the Southern states
that are overwhelmingly on welfare would vote against it or
vote against vote for the candidate who's against that because
they're not educated. And I think the sinister part of
it is, you know, all of these people in his

(55:51):
orbit are people who are leveraging that lack of knowledge.
The other thing that I think is kind of crazy
about this is we know he's full of contradictions and
just straight up lies. But the idea that it's an
arbitrary line, interestingly doesn't apply when it comes to immigration, right,
because all of these land masses, all of these nation states,
are things that came about one day, but they're arbitrary.

(56:12):
The Rio Grande is a river that separates Mexico and Texas,
but it's an arbitrary line. Before that, people lived on
both sides, and you know, there was not the United
States and the country of Mexico. Those things are all
relatively recent in the course of human history. So to
act like, oh, there's an arbitrary line separating the United
States and Canada, like all of these are not arbitrary lines,

(56:35):
and like indigenous people did not live here for millennia
before it was ever found by Europeans. Is one of
those things that you don't bring up because it's not
about the actual facts. It's about the rhetoric, and it's
about the vibes, if you will, and the vibes are
I'm Trump, I say whatever I want to say. I'll
call out whoever I want to call out, I'll make
fun of people. I mean, we all know Canada is

(56:56):
a sovereign country, right, But to call him Governor Trudeau,
that's about getting that Trudeau and trying to undermine him
and his authority more so than it is anything else.
I mean, nobody realistically thinks Canada is going to become
the fifty first state. And even with that, all those
Canadian provinces have, you know, unique cultures in and of themselves.

(57:18):
Alberta is basically the Texas of Canada. You go to
York or you go where to Toronto is. It's completely
different in terms of how it is constituted. So that's
not a thing that would even happen within one state.
You having that kind of multiplicity of cultures and things
to the extent that they've existed in these separate provinces.
But to me, this is a matter of the sinister

(57:40):
and the evil, and that's just always advancing their goal.
It's not about smart and dumb, because they know nobody
is dumb enough to really think Canada is going to
become the fifty first state. Maybe a small group of
people out there, but I can't imagine that's a real thought.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
All right, folks, this just ends some breaking news. These
uh Donald Trump and his fellow races. They are revoking
the legal status of more than half a million migrants.
And these are individuals from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela.

(58:20):
Now we know he didn't give a damn about the
about the Haitians, but I'm sure all those Cubans, Nicaraguans
and Venezuelans who voted for him are going what happened?

Speaker 2 (58:29):
How do you do it to us? So? Uh? Trump
and his bigots are terminating their work work permits, work permits.

Speaker 7 (58:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Removing the deportation protections under an immigration authority known as
parole would take effect in late April.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
And this is a notice that was posted by the
federal government. And in this notice, give me one second,
it says termination of parole processes for Cubans, Haitians, Nico Roguins,
and Venezuelans. Uh And uh yeah, and what and they
are urging them, Matt to self deport that's man.

Speaker 8 (59:15):
I mean, I don't put anything past this administration. And
you said Venezuelans are in that group, right. I haven't
read that order myself, But did you say Venezuelans are
also in that group.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Is that correct, Yes, Cubans. Yeah, the order is very specific.
The order is very specific, and we're gonna pull it
up in a second. Let me literally, this just came down.
Give me one second. Let me sending this to the
control room.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
So the order says, the order says, UH, Department of
Homeland Security termination of parole processes for Cubans, Haitians, Nico Roguins,
and Venezuelans.

Speaker 8 (01:00:03):
Well, it's interesting that that's happening at the same time
he's trying to use the Aliens Alien Enemies Act to
deport you know, a number of people from Venezuela, in
particular by trying to claim that trend Agua is invading
the United States, and you know, mentioning that same podcast
I was talking about earlier with the people I was
listening to it this morning, and they were talking about

(01:00:25):
whether invasion has ever been construed in the way he
is trying to construe it. And what's interesting about that
is the legal scholars are trying to, you know, conceptualize
and consider something that I don't think is really being
considered from the White House.

Speaker 10 (01:00:41):
I don't think they're looking at the legality of things.
I think what they're.

Speaker 8 (01:00:44):
Doing is continuing to push the bounds and just throwing
everything out that they want to. You know, that's along
with their ideology and just saying test us take it
to the courts and see what the courts do. But
if I heard you correctly, this is about people who
were granted parole during the Biden administration.

Speaker 10 (01:01:01):
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yep? Go a buy the twenty twenty two yep.

Speaker 10 (01:01:07):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (01:01:08):
So not only is it about advancing the deportation agenda,
but it's the same thing we're saying in lockstep with
everything being about the alleged prior administration making you less safe,
making this country less profitable, and needing to undo a
lot of the Biden era policies, which we know were
the right policies as it relates to immigration or human

(01:01:30):
rights and in a lot of different respects. But this
is just dovetailed with that. I mean, that's what you
see this administration do everything that they put out the
couple with. You know, the Biden administration was wrong. They
were making you less safe for whatever else they were
allegedly doing. And that's why we're taking this unprecedented, unconstitutional action,
So this doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
And look, they also lie, Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
I mean they deported folks to al several or prison
and say they were gang members. One day, were like
one guy here a gang tat. It wasn't a gang tat.
It was a soccer tack. The guy was persecuted under
the Venezuelan President Maduro and deported them. Then they had
to admit in court that most of these people were

(01:02:15):
not criminals, they had no criminal record.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
They're liars. They literally lied. They were on television and lied,
they were on radio, on line in line. They are liars.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
I do not trust anything that comes from Donald Trump,
Elon Musk or.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
JD Vance, none of them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
In fact, JD. Evance such an asshole. He actually did
an interview where he claimed the Vice president Kamala Harris,
was taking four shots of vodka every morning.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
I mean, these people are pathetic.

Speaker 16 (01:02:45):
Well, yeah, this is what we wanted people about before
the election, when JD Vance was lying saying that Haitians
in Springfield, Ohio were eating dogs and cats, and then
he doubled down and tripled down on that lie, even
though they were getting death threats and bomb threats and
things of this nature and Donald Trump's spread that lie

(01:03:08):
as well. And at the same time, if people remember correctly,
Donald Trump ordered House Republicans to kill the strongest border
bill in thirty years so that he could run on
immigration and tracking down on the border things like this. Okay,

(01:03:29):
so these people are frauds. They're dangerous frauds. I'm looking
at the piece here from the Guardian. Trump revokes the
legal status of five hundred and thirty thousand Cuban stations
nicol Roblins and Venezualens. Now, going back to February third,
twenty twenty five, the Department of Homeland I think it
was Department of Homeland Security announced that they were going

(01:03:50):
to revoke the temporary protect the status of three hundred
and fifty thousand Venezualans. The Venezualans in Florida were furious
because many of them voted for Donald Trump in the
twenty twenty four election, and they said they felt betrayed.
The Trump surrogates and things like that told them, you know,
you're saved, things like that, We're going to deport thes
gonna be the bad people to get deported. Okay, So

(01:04:14):
this is this white nationalism that's all throughout Project twenty
twenty five. This is what we're seeing taking place right here.
And at the same time, he wants to invite white
South Africans to immigrate to the US. Okay, at the
very same time he wants to deport these people and
strip the parole establish from two hundred and forty thousand Ukrainians.

(01:04:38):
He's inviting white South Africans to come to the US.
I wonder why, because they're being persecuted, right.

Speaker 11 (01:04:45):
He says, they're being persecuted.

Speaker 10 (01:04:47):
They're being persecuted in.

Speaker 8 (01:04:48):
South Africa, and they make it a point to beat
the drum to show that white people that they think
are the ones that are okay, right, are being persecuted
and South Africa, we're gonna do all these bad things
to you, right unless.

Speaker 11 (01:05:02):
You say it's a land in South Africa the vict minds.

Speaker 16 (01:05:05):
Yeah, And all this has to do with perpetuating white grievance.
And what they're doing with the various civil rights departments
now is shifting the focus the quote on to focus
on white discrimination and and and and laws.

Speaker 11 (01:05:22):
Against white people. This is the whole this is the
whole game.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Oh yeah, that's what they're doing. All, y'all, I gotta
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Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Goetting Jelanna Jones one second, wait, so let's go all right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
I was in Austin a couple of days ago, and
I was chatting with State representing of Jelana Jones, and
again we talk about how elections have consequences. So yesterday
when don Trump sound that bs executive order shooting down
Department Education, guests was all there Texas Governor Greg Abbott,
Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, and the thuggish Texas Attorney

(01:08:09):
General Ken Paxton. Three of the if you want to say,
those are the three students of Texas. Three the dumbest
people in Texas. Okay, So they have been attacking public
education as well. So just as you're Trump trying to
shut down the Department Education, your Republicans here in Texas
who are desperately trying to shut down blue counties like
Harris County. So one of the things they did was

(01:08:32):
ordered the Texas Education Agency to take over the Houston
Independent School District.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Well, a lot of parents have been upset by that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
And so I caught up with representa the Jones about
the takeover of the largest school district in the country
by state government.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
And here's our conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
All right, folks, Rollanmartin here, Rollbart unfiltered, I'm here State
Representative Jealo on the Jones and Texas State Capitol. What okay, So,
what's the latest. What the hell is going on with
the te a takeover? H I s d uh. I
got people who are teachers who are hitting me. All
these principals who were leaving getting transferred. Uh what what?

(01:09:10):
What the hell is happening in my hometown of Houston.

Speaker 12 (01:09:13):
Sell the mafia which is t A.

Speaker 26 (01:09:16):
Greg Abbott, Mike Miles the appointed superintendent and he's got
a kangaroo court full of appointed board members. Are they
are making Hi s Dego broke? He is spending money
without authorization. They are not h like making him be
accountable like they got he saw a story.

Speaker 7 (01:09:39):
And I'm confused as hell.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
I'm like, so, how he's spending money didn't get approval?
And then when y'all find we y'all find out y'all
sitting here and backdated.

Speaker 7 (01:09:51):
Well but that's why, no, no, no, no, no no, I'm
talking about the board. I'm like, well, why the hell y'all.

Speaker 12 (01:09:55):
Have because they're they're because Avid appointed them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
But my point is, if you're on a board, you're
supposed to have some oversight.

Speaker 7 (01:10:03):
Hell, if you're not gonna do any oversight, well, just
stay home.

Speaker 26 (01:10:06):
But they're there too, rubber stampus things, so that that's
where you gotta twist it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
You actually, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, I.

Speaker 12 (01:10:12):
Didn't get it. Wait there, I didn't get twisted.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
But that's but my point is, if you're on a board, uh,
you don't do stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:10:19):
You don't approve something after the fact, except.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
It's like, oh my bad, no no, no, no, you
know whether Look, I own my company, so I ain't
got to ask nobody to spend money.

Speaker 7 (01:10:30):
But if I was not owning the company.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
I would have to get approval of course, if I
would spend some money.

Speaker 26 (01:10:36):
He spent almost a half a million dollars on a
play where he was a star.

Speaker 12 (01:10:39):
Serious business of play a play.

Speaker 26 (01:10:41):
They did a play, and I guess he likes to act,
and they spent over five hundred thousand dollars for him
to be do a play and.

Speaker 12 (01:10:51):
He was acting.

Speaker 26 (01:10:51):
I swear on my daddy's well. Okay, all right now now,
and the board approved that. Now the border play a play.
You know, you go to a play if people act
like something. Yes, he was the star of it. Okay,
so so they're not they're they're there to play games.

Speaker 7 (01:11:10):
Now they're there to act.

Speaker 26 (01:11:11):
They're there, they're not there to teach kids.

Speaker 12 (01:11:15):
And all the teachers we don't.

Speaker 26 (01:11:17):
They've gotten rid of certified teachers and they're not paying them.

Speaker 12 (01:11:22):
They brought in people. I got a friend.

Speaker 26 (01:11:25):
Who says her niece's working at Hi s D used
to work in McDonald's.

Speaker 12 (01:11:29):
They hired her as a teacher.

Speaker 26 (01:11:30):
She's not certified, So they got uncertified people teaching.

Speaker 12 (01:11:34):
Kids, and they're manipulating data.

Speaker 26 (01:11:36):
They're literally only testing the smart kids, so it appears
that their test scores are high. They're doing all these
things they tried. They spent I can't remember how much
I want to say, four million dollars on a failed
bond so that they could replenshe their piggy bang.

Speaker 12 (01:11:52):
Now we thought, well, he's the people.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
You understand body elections rarely feel oh, now that's true,
especially for school You got to really screw up bad
for the voters to say hell no to a school
bond election.

Speaker 12 (01:12:11):
With schools that falling apart.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
That that was an absolute protest vote, with the public
said no, we are not about to hand you several
billion dollars.

Speaker 7 (01:12:23):
That's what that was about. And again, I don't want
people to understand.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Across the country, bond votes for schools are readily.

Speaker 26 (01:12:31):
Failed, right, but they always passed, mostly because most people
want to spend money.

Speaker 12 (01:12:35):
They're willing to pay back bonds in order.

Speaker 26 (01:12:38):
To give children good facilities and great environments to learn.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
So that says a lot about how Alleys Froston voters
feel like, what's happening.

Speaker 12 (01:12:45):
Let me tell you something. They have employment affairs at
CHISD all the time.

Speaker 26 (01:12:51):
They cannot get people to want to come in, even
people that he's brought in that were on his side.
They realized that the systems as he has in place aren't.

Speaker 12 (01:12:59):
Educated kids daily. So you could have had a.

Speaker 26 (01:13:03):
Girl who worked at some fast food restaurant teaching your kid.

Speaker 12 (01:13:06):
If you had HISD. But and I hate to say this.

Speaker 26 (01:13:08):
Roland, if I had a school age child, I would
not send my child to HSD.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
But but this is where we also have connected dots
here that people need to understand.

Speaker 7 (01:13:20):
The law allowed for the governor to do this. The
governor is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Elected when when Bettel ran against when Betto ran against Abby,
seventy five percent of voters in Texas thirty and under
did not vote. So the problem, the problem that I
keep saying and even in our communities, in many of
our communities, we're not voting in our capacity. I've been

(01:13:47):
saying that I need black folk to be voting at
seventy percent of our capacity. And what's happening is it's
so like, well, they're gonna win anyway. So it's thirty eight,
it's forty two right now in Louise. The end folk
are all upset. Maga Jeff Landry and I'm like he
was mag attorney general. He wanted to essentially open up

(01:14:10):
the juvenile records of largely black folks only in two
parishes in the entire state.

Speaker 7 (01:14:15):
Where the black people will live, but folks set at home.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
So I need people to understand, when you do not vote,
you are allowing an avid to stay in power to
make this move that is a political move to a
lot this takeover.

Speaker 7 (01:14:30):
And is there a limit of the takeover? How many years?

Speaker 26 (01:14:34):
No, they can be there as long as they're not performing,
they can be there.

Speaker 12 (01:14:38):
And he is what's crazy.

Speaker 26 (01:14:40):
You appoint a board of managers and you put miles
in place because you say the schools are failing, which
they weren't, by the way, but you're failing the schools,
but they get to stay that as long as the
schools are failing. So I actually think it isn't their
best interest to make sure that the schools fail.

Speaker 12 (01:14:57):
So that they can stay there under the illusion that
they're actually trying to help.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Because what people need to understand is that the Republican
Party in Texas despises Harris County. Oh they hate us,
And people need to understand that was a time when
Republicans were winning county wide.

Speaker 12 (01:15:17):
They were.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
That was a time when I was in Dallas County,
working in Dallas County where Democrats won Dallas County and
all set in Dallas County flipped. You had people like
John Cruizoe at the time, who was a judge who
ran as a Republican because he knew he could not
win as a Democrat.

Speaker 7 (01:15:33):
Then that county then flipped back to blue.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
So the reality is Republicans in Texas they can't stand
Harris County.

Speaker 7 (01:15:41):
They can't stand.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Dallas, Well, they can't stand in Harris in Dallas, but
they really can't stand Harris.

Speaker 12 (01:15:48):
County for sure.

Speaker 26 (01:15:49):
There are so many only Harris County bills that are bad.
So every other city in the state of Texas the
elected officials are living in there, content in season.

Speaker 7 (01:16:00):
They know what's best being allowed local control and they have.

Speaker 12 (01:16:04):
That's what it's called local control.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
When Republicans say they love, they believe they say they love.
Oh no, not big government, local control, but not in
Harris County.

Speaker 12 (01:16:14):
And they lost their minds. They woke up and there
was a whole bunch of black people judges. They have
lost their minds.

Speaker 7 (01:16:19):
We people, so people understand.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
In two thousand and seventeen eighteen eight, well that was
the last one they took off. Nineteen they passed, but
they they got rid of straight ticket voting in seventeen.
But it was the eighteen election was the last one
because what happened was and remember Republicans used to always
take advantage straight ticket vote. But then Democrats in Harrison

(01:16:43):
County they got organized, started winning in Republicans in the
state capital said, oh, hell now we gotta.

Speaker 12 (01:16:48):
Get rid of want people to know if you're a Democrat.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Or so people just need to undertan said, no, we
need want the voters to think about their choices.

Speaker 7 (01:16:54):
People just need to understand.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
People need to understand when you see these moves withholding
of hurricane relief fund, to Harris's County. You look at
them changing the voting laws specifically the Harris Country. You
need to understand these are very specific direct actions to
penalize Harris County because they dare vote Democrat and not Republican.

Speaker 26 (01:17:17):
But let's also talk about the big elephant in the room.

Speaker 12 (01:17:22):
A whole bunch of black people got elected judge.

Speaker 26 (01:17:24):
So now all of a sudden, they literally have not
tried to change judicial requirements until a whole bunch of
black people got elected, and now they were saying that
judges are not qualified.

Speaker 12 (01:17:35):
A dude came and.

Speaker 26 (01:17:36):
Testified yesterday before the Judiciary Civil Jewish Prudence Committee.

Speaker 12 (01:17:41):
And talked about how the problem with the judges for
the most part.

Speaker 26 (01:17:45):
In Harris County is that they are basically not smart enough,
which is what they say about black people.

Speaker 12 (01:17:52):
They're not qualified and they're the only ones who will
take these low paying jobs.

Speaker 26 (01:17:57):
Therefore, we need to increase the salary of the judges
so that we can get better quality of people who
actually know the law. So for the most part, they
saying Black people, we're done, We stupid and were cheap,
and we need to do better so that we can
attract non black mold qualified.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
You need you to send me that name so we
can pull that video because I want to run that
video on my show. But again, I just want, I
just need people to understand who are watching and who
are listening to this, that this is what we mean
when we say elections matter, and there are there are
results of elections, and you win.

Speaker 7 (01:18:34):
Winners get to control what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
So if you're upset right now with Tea taking over HSD,
if you're upset with the concert tax in Harrison County,
do understand it's also because folks choose to sit at
home and allow these individuals to be elected. So I
just want, I just want our folk to understand that
if you don't mobilize and organize, this is how they

(01:18:59):
stay in power. The reality is ABBA can be voted out,
Dan Patrick can be voted out, These people can be
voted out. But we have to have folk who are
not so complacent where we say, well, you know what,
they're gonna win anyway, so I don't have any power.

Speaker 12 (01:19:15):
Right and true story Roland. People standing in long lines
spend money.

Speaker 26 (01:19:20):
They don't have to go see Beyonce, and I love Beyonce.

Speaker 12 (01:19:23):
She from Uston But my point is my grandmother.

Speaker 26 (01:19:26):
My grandmother told me that you can tell what's important
to people, but how they spend their time and how
they spend their money.

Speaker 12 (01:19:32):
It's that true. And so I'm telling you we need
to be terrified.

Speaker 26 (01:19:38):
As black people about what's going on in Austin because
all of the attacks are against.

Speaker 12 (01:19:46):
It is an attack on us. We are not funding HBCUs.

Speaker 26 (01:19:51):
We literally gave billions of dollars to pwi's and did
not give money to HBCUs. They want us to have
inadequate resource so that we cannot compete.

Speaker 13 (01:20:02):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
See what I need people to understand that this this
goes way beyond Washington, DC.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
But people need to realize.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
And Matt, you're there in Corpus Christie, you're seeing this
every single day. But the right wing is doing by
having having super majority's Texas, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Tennessee. They

(01:20:37):
are looking to unleash their agenda federal level, state level,
local level.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Black folks need.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
To understand is that when you look at the population increases,
people are actually leaving the Midwest, the South, the northeast,
and the west to the south. There are people who
literally look who are returning home. They are individuals who've
left Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas. You have a reverse

(01:21:10):
migration that's going on. As people are getting older, they
want to return back, spend time with their families, and
live their lives out this way. So what we need
to understand in terms Whoodbery was discussing this yesterday, You've.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Got massive voting power.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Texas has the most the largest group of eligible black
voters in any state in the country. You look at Louisiana,
you look at other places. But as long as we
are not showing up using our power, these thugs Matt
will get to make the decisions because too many of
us are complaining about stuff but not showing up to

(01:21:50):
stop them.

Speaker 8 (01:21:52):
You're one hundred percent right. And in addition to that,
they know that the tide is turning. They know that
Texas is going to be blue soon, which is part
of the reason they're getting their tentacles into everything. I mean,
I told you last time I was on the show
that there's been a big fight here on Corpus Christy
about the library board. There's literally a group of maga
types who have infiltrated the library board, and if you

(01:22:14):
read the local newspaper, a lot of the stuff that
they're talking about is the books in the library. I mean,
every aspect of government and every aspect of society they're targeting.
And part of it is because they know here in Texas,
to your point, the Texas is going to turn blue
sooner than later, so they're trying to do everything they
can to keep.

Speaker 10 (01:22:30):
Those little silos of power.

Speaker 8 (01:22:31):
Now, it's interesting that you and Jalanda were talking about
Harris County because you're exactly right, But my home county,
Travis County, I would say, would be second to Harris
County in terms of their desire to not let them
have local control. I mean, look at how they've attacked
the DA there, how they've attacked the Austin City Council,
how they've attacked the people in Austin. Because Austin is
a blue pocket in the state of Texas, right, and

(01:22:53):
Greg Abbott is there, as you know, and they don't
want local control there because that local control does not
ideologically jibble with what they think the rest of Texas
should be out in West Texas and East Texas and
other parts of the state.

Speaker 10 (01:23:06):
So you're exactly right.

Speaker 8 (01:23:08):
But what we as Texas Democrats have not done effectively,
in my opinion, is we have not, you know, countered
on some of those things that we don't think of
as being big ticket items where you're seeing the infiltration
of these boards and usurpations.

Speaker 10 (01:23:23):
Of power and then the governor appointing things.

Speaker 8 (01:23:25):
I'm glad you and Jelanda were talking about that, because
that's one of the most insidious parts of this that
Abbot and his team are consistently finding things for him
to appoint people to and then just like Trump, he's
just telling those boards what to do. A good example
of that is that Daniel Perry murder trial in Austin
a couple of years ago, the guy who killed the
veteran who killed the other veteran during a George Floyd protest.

(01:23:48):
And remember Abbot came out on TV and said Daniel
Perry never should have been convicted. And then all of
the people on the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles
whom he appointed, went along and rubber stamped him pardoning
a case where twelve people sat in the box listen
to all the evidence in super liberal Austin and decided
this guy was guilty of murder. That's a perfect example

(01:24:11):
of exactly what the Republicans are doing here. But I
think they're running scared because I think they know the
numbers will very soon be in our favor. To your
exact point, look at how Houston's population has exploded over
the last what ten years, and a lot of those
people that are coming in are not the archetypal Texas Republican.
They're black and non white people from around the country
who have moved to Houston and who have changed that

(01:24:33):
demographic and made it where. You know, they're so terrified
of that county. So we need to keep our foot
on the gas and really stay on their necks because
you know the tide is going to turn very soon.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Well here's the problem with that, Michael. There's a difference
between folks saying the tide turning and then the tide
actually turning. I'm going to go back. I'm going to
go back to two thousand and eight election of Obamaocrats. Oh,
we might see twenty years we control the presidency, the
coalition not realizing that you you have to continue to

(01:25:10):
build that coalition. What I see is I see two
the people who give up I also see people who
are not mobilizing and organizing. When I said it, I've
said this numerous times and betto or ran against Greg
Abbott for governor. Seventy five percent of voters in Texas
thirty and under didn't no vote. They just didn't even

(01:25:34):
show up. So it's a massive state. Two hudred and
fifty four counties. Democrats only have eighty one to eighty
three counties where they have a county where they have
a county party. So the bottom line is you're just
sort of saying, sure, dominate us in West Texas, dominate us. Look, look,
they're losing serious ground to Republicans with Litlatinos in South Texas.

(01:25:59):
So what I keep telling people is I don't want
to hear about demographics.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
I mean, this is what I mean. I don't want
to hear about numbers because numbers mean nothing to me
unless folks are turning out. Look, yes, same thing they're
in Detroit, same thing they're in Michigan.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
You've got places in Michigan significant black population. Are they
turning out and they're not turning out in the numbers
to offset the white turnout?

Speaker 11 (01:26:33):
Right right?

Speaker 16 (01:26:34):
You know part of this conversation Roland we had last night.
I was on the Pound discussion for Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity.
They're having a ninety third Midwest Regional conference here at
the Renaissance Center here in Detroit, and I was on
the Pound discussion and one of the things I was
talking about is dealing with.

Speaker 11 (01:26:53):
An attack on black political power. Okay.

Speaker 16 (01:26:57):
And we've had this conversation here before. You've had Gary
Chambers on here before. He's from Louisiana. And when we
see historically the rewriting of those state constitutions during the
Jim Crow era Louisiana eighteen ninety eight, Mississippi eighteen ninety
that we talk about here, the Mississippi State Convention, they

(01:27:19):
feared black people voting, specifically black men, okay, and we
were voting in high numbers and some of those laws,
the felony disenfranchisement laws. And it's really people to understand
how what we're dealing with here in the present is
related to the collapse of reconstruction in the Jim Crow era.

(01:27:40):
Because anytime they're periods of perceived gains that African Americans make,
there's always the white backlash to that. And we should
have seen this white backlash coming because they put it
in a book. It's called Prizet twenty twenty five, nine
hundred and twenty two pages.

Speaker 11 (01:27:56):
They spell out everything.

Speaker 16 (01:27:57):
But when we look at the filmy disapfranchisement law that
they that they passed in eighteen ninety in Mississippi, if
you were convicted of a felinity, you lost your right
to vote for life. It was specifically targeting the black
political power there in Mississippi, that family disfranchisement law.

Speaker 27 (01:28:15):
Still but but but but but but here's the thing though,
they were not targeting and this is what this is
the distinction.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
I want people understand. They were not targeting black voters.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
They were targeting black people who voted to.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
The wise.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
That distinction important because again, numbers mean nothing if you
don't show up. Huge black population Louisiana don't show up.
So we are actually and I need everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Listen to what I'm saying right now, we are doing
the job for them. We are making their job easy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
They're like Donald Trump literally stood behind numerous podiums and
microphones and said black people, thank you for not voting.
That was the greatest insult to Black America.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
I'll say in.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
The last forty years, for somebody to for somebody to say, Negroes,
I appreciate your decision to set your ass at home.
That's what he was saying. That should have pissed off
more people. And that's the thing. They are happy when

(01:29:47):
we are fixated on reality shows and other things and
we're not showing up to the ballot box.

Speaker 16 (01:29:55):
Absolutely, and these are distractions they and they throw these
distractions out here because they fear black political power. They
fear us voting in masses, okay. And to show you
that fear Shelby Conny versus Holder US Supreme Court case
twenty thirteen, which got it section five of the voting

(01:30:16):
ranks at that came after the reelection of President Barack Obama,
when we voted at historic numbers. That was the first
presidential election. I think we voted at sixty six point
seven percent.

Speaker 11 (01:30:27):
I think it was for African Americans.

Speaker 16 (01:30:29):
That was the first presidential election where the percentage of
the African American registered voters was greater than the percentage
of white registered voters who voted. That scared the hell
out of a lot of white people, a lot of
white conservatives.

Speaker 11 (01:30:41):
They came back and attacked us in the courts.

Speaker 16 (01:30:43):
So what has to happen is there has to be
a direct connection between the conditions that we deal with
and how policies that we vote for changed those conditions
for the better. A lot of times, voting becomes an
action that we're told to do, but sometimes we're not

(01:31:03):
told what the benefit of voting is the policies that
get put in place, but also how to stop and
block what the adversaries are trying to do to you.
You have to stop them and block them out at
the ballot box. And you also have to understand that
you have to fire and vote out the obstructionists who
are trying to block you from getting what you want.

(01:31:25):
And the last thing that I think a missing piece
of this, and we talked about this in the previous election,
you have to.

Speaker 11 (01:31:30):
Speak directly to low wealth people or poor people, et cetera.

Speaker 16 (01:31:36):
Speak directly to them, talk to their issues, talk to
their concerns. In the twenty twenty five election, and we
supported VP Kamala Harris, they didn't mention poor people.

Speaker 11 (01:31:46):
They didn't talk about low wealth people. Okay, and you're
missing millions of.

Speaker 16 (01:31:50):
People who don't hear their issues spoken to directly when
you speak to their issues directly.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
This is what rev vord.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
But yeah, yeah, but here's the deal there was we
know Trump never spoke to those people as well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
And it's two things.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
I absolutely believe you speak to the issues, but you
also people need to also be aware of what's actually
being done as well. And guess what all of them
simply's saying is, if you're black and you believe voting
is an option, then I don't want to hear anything
from you. I don't want to hear you complaining about
city services and school board and county and the state whatever,

(01:32:28):
because you chose to sit out.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
That's why I said it, voter, shut the hell up.
And I'm sorry. We got people who love to complain,
but if you choose to sit out of the process,
you are part of the problem. Gonna go to a
quick break when I come back.

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Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
Actor John Legozamo's never won to hold his tongue well.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
He went on the View today.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
Had some choice words for the white supremacists who are
running our federal government.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Check this out.

Speaker 28 (01:35:06):
According to you, DEI, which is what you say you are,
i AM stands for diligence, excellence, and imagination.

Speaker 12 (01:35:13):
That's right. So tell me what your reaction.

Speaker 28 (01:35:18):
Is six times executive or to terminate all the DEI mandates,
policies and programs in the federal government.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
It's terrible.

Speaker 29 (01:35:25):
I mean they're removing plaques of black and Latino and
women heroes.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
Just I mean, what kind of action is that. It's
like a white only club.

Speaker 29 (01:35:33):
D I was supposed to be to help give us
equity for black and latinos, because we've been here for
five hundred years, four hundred years, and you know they
were segregation, lynching, redlining that we were experimented on. You know,
we were kept from jobs, from from you know, going
to the best places churches, parks. This was to undoal

(01:35:54):
five hundred years of being oppressed, to give us equity,
give us a chance to get to the same level
as everybody else. Yes, and I think Americans do want inclusion.
I think Americans do want diversity.

Speaker 12 (01:36:05):
They grew up with Latino, black.

Speaker 29 (01:36:07):
People, Asian and then they know that we have value
their neighbors.

Speaker 11 (01:36:11):
They're in love with us.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
You know, we're lovely people.

Speaker 11 (01:36:13):
We're very White.

Speaker 28 (01:36:14):
People have been dominant. White people have been in control.
They don't like it now that the people are shown like.

Speaker 12 (01:36:22):
Oppression to people who have not experienced.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
Some white people.

Speaker 11 (01:36:27):
I don't think it's all white people.

Speaker 29 (01:36:28):
Yeah, but some white people don't want that diversity, and
that's why he has to demonize DEI yes, they have
to make us feel like we're getting a leg up and.

Speaker 12 (01:36:38):
We don't deserve it.

Speaker 29 (01:36:39):
But all the black and Latin people that I know
who are in positions of power have to be five
times better than their white brothers and sisters.

Speaker 12 (01:36:47):
Let's talk about our people.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Let's talk about the Latinos.

Speaker 30 (01:36:49):
You were very vocal, very active during the elections into
the Latino community voted.

Speaker 10 (01:36:56):
In this country.

Speaker 30 (01:36:57):
Latinos in this country ended up voting for Trump. The
fact that he demonized Latinos, demonized immigrants every single day,
and since becoming president, he's targeted, hunted them down.

Speaker 29 (01:37:10):
Yes, I mean's like basically pagrams. They're coming out to
all these people that they said that were criminals.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
They're not criminals. There's no due process.

Speaker 29 (01:37:19):
You can say anybody's a gang member. And you saw
that Fox clip where they said this kid is a
gang member, but then they and they had shaved his
head and the hair was still on the floor to
make them look like they're gang members. Because there's no
due process, then you can call anybody a criminal. And
you know, these people are all you meet immigrants. They're hardworking, lovely, decent,

(01:37:39):
wonderful people.

Speaker 30 (01:37:41):
Oh well, you have the jobs in this country, like
nobody wants.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
He wants to feed America.

Speaker 29 (01:37:45):
We serve America, we build America, we give America everything.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
And they get nothing back.

Speaker 29 (01:37:51):
They're not taking from our services, they're not getting anything
from us.

Speaker 30 (01:37:54):
But that's why they haven't released the identities of those
Venezuelans that they have sent to the worst hellhole in
the Western hemisphere, because they don't want us to know
who they are, because this is a made for TV.

Speaker 29 (01:38:03):
But they but they spoke in Venezuelan and television in
Spanish and said.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
I love what he said there, Matt, when he said, look,
they want this to be a white only club.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
That is the deal. When you see the attacks, uh,
when you see the attacks of diversity, equity, inclusion, when
you see the attacks on black history, when you see, oh,
we made a mistake removing uh, the the dedications to
Colin Powell and MegaR Evers and Jackie Robinson. It's okay,
it was just a mistake. No, it was by design.

(01:38:36):
It is by design. We have we keep saying this.
The goal is erasure. The goal is to establish white supremacy. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
And that's that's what this this whole focus is. And
I just and I need people to also understand these
black people who call themselves maga, these black conservatives, they're silent,
they're saying nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
They are proving of this.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
If you are Wesley Hunt Burgess Owens Byron Donald's Tim Scott,
you are silent, you are complicit. You are literally participants
in the erasure of your own people. That's if you

(01:39:23):
consider black people to be your people.

Speaker 8 (01:39:28):
And because it's about white supremacy and it's about erasure,
it's not even about having any kind of nuance in
the conversation about programs that are actually intended to promote diversity.
What it's about is making anything that is non white
be equivalent to this devil that you've called DEI. So

(01:39:49):
what I mean is, you know, like Michael mentioned earlier
about c Q. Brown, I mean, from my understanding, this
brother could not have been better credentialed, right, better qualified
for the job, but because he's black, it becomes he's unqualified.
Everything is about merit, and you create this dichotomy where
you say there's a group of people who inherently have merit,

(01:40:09):
and then there's a group of people who have no merit.
The group of people who have merit are white people.
The group of people who do not have merit are
non white people. And that binary conversation is what we're
hearing with DEI. It's just a euphemism for black or
non white, and I sink I think more often it's
black than any other non white group. But that's what
it is, and that's what's insidious about it because it's crazy. Right,

(01:40:32):
Like we were talking about earlier with the veterans, this
shows you how all of this is amorphous and none
of it is real. It's all just rhetoric as a
means to an end. But if it's about veterans, you
support veterans, you support heroes, then you don't inadvertently tell
the people in an Air Force training class or you know,
not teach them about the Tuskegee Airmen. I mean, it
just doesn't make sense because objectively those are heroes, right, Objectively,

(01:40:56):
Jackie Robinson is a hero, as is Colin Pale. So
to say, oh, we inadvertently removed it, No, that's one
of those fake maya kopa's when you want to see
how far you can get and ultimately what you want
to get to here they want to get to is
erasing the contributions of black and other non white people,
and that's what it comes down to.

Speaker 10 (01:41:14):
But DEI is this dog whistle that has been made
ten amount to black.

Speaker 8 (01:41:18):
It's not even a question about whether there's an actual
program where the actual intention is promoting you know, black
or brown or non white people at the expense of
white people. It's any black person who's in any role
is inherently not qualified for that role. And that's the
distinction we're seeing. And that's the rhetoric that they're running with.

(01:41:40):
And that's why everything can be pointed to as DEI
when there's no conversation whatsoever about individual's merit and whether
they're actually you know, qualified for whatever position they have.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
You know, people just need to understand it's a numbers game.
It's that's a number game. Numbers game, Michael. When you
look at voters, when you look at how white voters voted,
when you look at their perspectives, ed I mean, I
hate to say I called it, but I did. Ever
since two thousand and nine, I kept saying, y'all were

(01:42:17):
living this age of white minority resistance.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
And whether these white folks.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
Want to be overt or covert, they are saying exactly
what they how they feel.

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
They're sitting exactly where they stand. And folks just need
to understand that white fear is running rampant and it
is driving American policy.

Speaker 16 (01:42:40):
Yeah, and a lot of this has to do with
the fear of the browning of America and that by
twenty forty three, white people will no longer be the
majority population in this country. When you look at the
US census from twenty twenty, the white population from the
twenty twenty census was at fifty seven percent. That's the
first time that the white population in this country has

(01:43:01):
dropped a low sixty percent since seventeen ninety when the
first census was taken.

Speaker 11 (01:43:07):
That scared a lot of people.

Speaker 16 (01:43:08):
And the attack that you see on DEI right now,
there's this whole backlash to the racial reckoning that took
place in this country after the death of George Floyd
and the assent of diversity, equity, and inclusion is something
that was part of that racial reckoning. So you we're

(01:43:29):
seeing this hole wiping out of basically sixty years of
progress from the civil rights movement.

Speaker 11 (01:43:40):
We're seeing this all out attack on it right now.

Speaker 16 (01:43:44):
And you know, John Liguizamo was It's good that he
was on the View today talking about this. Now, what
gets left out of the conversation a lot of times
is how DEI helps white women. Okay, and white women
need to be more vocal about protecting and saving d

(01:44:06):
I because they've been benefiting a lot from it as well.
Uh well, we'll de I has become the new in
word in some respects, and it's it's it's used as
a slur to say that people are unqualified. But at
the same time, you've had white women who've gotten jobs, contracts, positions,

(01:44:27):
things like this, uh from this.

Speaker 11 (01:44:29):
So this is this is part of this is part
of the fight.

Speaker 16 (01:44:33):
And we see the attack on universities and when you
when you look at the dismantle of the Department of Education,
you know, one of the things they talk about this
sending all this back to the States, and they talk
about you know, uh uh woke ideology being taught in schools,
et cetera. This is all out attack right now that

(01:44:53):
we're under.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
Well, and y'all have heard me say this before. We
talked about how when opioids first hit, how frankly racism
actually helped out black people. Y'all gonna say, what do
you mean.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
White doctors were not prescribing opioids to African Americans because
they felt that black people were coming, they're trying to
get high. Well, that began to change, and we have
now seen the impact of African Americans dying duty due
to opioids. Now, you Department of Healthy Human Servicess, overall
opioid deaths are starting to decline, but Black families again

(01:45:34):
are losing loved ones to overdoses at alarming rates. Advocate say,
resources and life saving tools aren't reaching Black communities. Sounds
very similar to other health crisises showing us right now.
As Tracy Garden, executive director the National Black Harm Reduction Network, Tracy,
glad to have you here. And you know the one
I was just making there is that And I said

(01:45:56):
for years that man, that was one of the examples
where racism actually helped black people. I mean racist white
doctors were turning Black people away. Well, that then began
to change. So when you talk about a lot of
these and then what then happened was Tracy, we saw
during the twenty sixteen twenty twenty election, all all of
a sudden, white people were asking for compassion for people

(01:46:18):
who had drug problems. They were demanding intervention, they were
demanding counseling, demanding rehabilitation. I remember a lot of black
people said, man, I wish we had that sort of
empathy when black folks were dealing with crack cocaine. So
we're still seeing when you talk about the delivery of
services to combat this, just like when it came to AIDS,

(01:46:41):
when it came to other things, they're not reaching the
black community in the same way.

Speaker 4 (01:46:47):
And that's exactly the point. That's what we're talking about.

Speaker 19 (01:46:51):
These disparities continue and get especially noticeable or after health
emergencies lived right. So National Black Harm Reduction Network, we're
a fairly new organization, but the idea of black people
needing to protect ourselves from systems.

Speaker 4 (01:47:11):
Is not a new It's not a new idea obviously.

Speaker 19 (01:47:15):
So we are joining vital strategies in a campaign that
kicks off next week that's going to be called you
Can Save Lives dot org. That's the website, and it's
basically about getting more now lock zone into our communities
in a way that simply hasn't been done. It's going
to be kicked off focusing on the seven cities where

(01:47:38):
the highest rates of overdose among black communities is happening. Louisville, Durham, Milwaukee, Albuquerque, Newark,
in Detroit, and we are going to go all out
making sure that now lockzone is just as available as
an EpiPen. It's forty percent of people who die of

(01:48:00):
an overdose, there's usually someone around. And so this is
a tool that has not been made available in our communities,
and we are going to kick this off to make
sure it is.

Speaker 4 (01:48:11):
It's a simple tool to save our own lives.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
So what are you looking and so are you Are
you trying to get policymakers to make changes so that
resources are coming to black communities. What are you asking
of the community? What are you asking people to do?

Speaker 19 (01:48:33):
We are asking people to embrace this way that community
can take care of itself. Again, what we talked about earlier,
whether it was HIV or crack, but when we are
armed with the tools, we can keep ourselves healthy.

Speaker 4 (01:48:51):
So this again is something that you just don't.

Speaker 19 (01:48:55):
Find in our communities in the way that it is
in other communities. The overdose mortality rate, the overdose death
rate has gone down in white communities and continues to
either hold steady or increase in Black communities.

Speaker 4 (01:49:13):
And yet and still we don't have these tools.

Speaker 19 (01:49:16):
Now, some of the issue is about the infrastructure that
we don't have in our communities because of the War
on drugs, and that is not that long ago when
you think about investments into our community.

Speaker 4 (01:49:29):
But this is.

Speaker 19 (01:49:30):
Something that doesn't have to be about the infrastructure. This
is about a commitment to each other that all of
our lives are valuable and that there's something we can
do to save our loved ones with this simple tool.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
Questions from the panel Magical First.

Speaker 8 (01:49:53):
Okay, Tracy, I was reading in preparation for today that
the number of overdoses has down, I think in the
last couple of years. But what I didn't see represented
in that article was what percentage of overdoses in the
last let's say five years have been Black people and opioids,
and how specifically this is affecting our community in those

(01:50:15):
seven cities that you mentioned. What are the numbers look like,
number one, and what do they look like comparatively to
the white numbers? And the reason I asked that is
because one of the things that makes a lot of
us belly ache, obviously, is that there was never any
empathy or compassion for black people during the height of
the War on drugs, right, But now we're seeing this

(01:50:36):
characterized in a different way, and I'd love to get
your insight on how the numbers bear out and also
what you're seeing from a policy perspective as it relates
to the black group of people who are affected in
this way.

Speaker 19 (01:50:48):
Okay, so it is true that the death overdose deaths
have declined up to twenty four percent, but that obscures
what is going on in just about any black community
in this country, from New York to Detroit. And we

(01:51:09):
chose vital strategies, and the network chose these cities because
it's a disproportionate rate of deaths happening relative to the
population of Black folks in these communities.

Speaker 4 (01:51:22):
And so we have always borne the brunt of emergence.

Speaker 19 (01:51:29):
Agencies primarily because made urgency responses.

Speaker 4 (01:51:34):
We need to be a lot.

Speaker 19 (01:51:37):
Right when Fixie came into the system, this was starting
to take out so many black folks in ways that
folks didn't even know Black older black men wiped out
from the introduction of fentodol.

Speaker 4 (01:51:52):
To the system.

Speaker 19 (01:51:53):
But there was no response when there wasn't any response
when it started happening to our elders then and when
it went into the white communities, there was a marshaling
of efforts and a quick availability of these tools, whether
it's naloxone, which a lot of people know as narcan,
test strips, treatment, all these ways that became from the

(01:52:20):
empathy that was being felt for and by black people
by white people. That did not happen for us, right,
And there's been a lot of stigma, and the stigma
in some parts is a little bit self.

Speaker 4 (01:52:33):
Imposed, but it's also part of the.

Speaker 19 (01:52:36):
Whole campaign to make us be less than to dehumanize
and to be absolutely unmindful of the challenges that we face.

Speaker 4 (01:52:48):
So in twenty two out of the twenty five.

Speaker 19 (01:52:50):
States that we were looking at, in a particular study
from Georgetown, the rate of over those deaths was higher
for black individuals than white through twenty twenty two and
twenty twenty three men, Black men fifty four to seventy
three are four times more likely to die of overdose.

(01:53:14):
Our young people are taking pills, drinking lean and don't
know that these are opiates, and they are at risk.
And we need to be able to identify when someone's
in an overdose.

Speaker 4 (01:53:27):
And then be able to have those tools available.

Speaker 19 (01:53:31):
Next week when we have our press conference, we're going
to hear from a black mom from Buis, Maryland. Her
name is Kimberly, and her son overdose in the bedroom
next to her home office.

Speaker 4 (01:53:44):
And she looked everywhere for the.

Speaker 19 (01:53:46):
Narcan and couldn't find it, and it turned out tragically
that it was in his pocket. We need to make
sure that it's everywhere. It doesn't matter if you use
drugs or not. It is about having a tool, just
like an f you pen, just like an AED available
to be able to stop a death.

Speaker 16 (01:54:10):
Michael Tracy, in the article that you wrote, you just
you talked about something that you just hit on how
some of these drugs aren't cast as opioids. And you
talked about drugs popularized and hip hop culture, like percocet
and Lean aren't ast as opioids. Can you talk about

(01:54:31):
how that makes it really challenging for what it is
that you do trying to make more people aware of
these life saving medication and access to it. And also,
are you getting any support from African American celebrities, any
support from the hip hop community, et cetera.

Speaker 19 (01:54:51):
Okay, so let's be clear percocets, Lean, those are opioids,
and that is why we are seeing young people, older
people mixing it with alcohol. People are dying of overdose deaths,
and sometimes people will be right around them and not
know that they are dying from their overdose.

Speaker 4 (01:55:13):
They may think they're asleep or just you know, passed out.
And so you know, to your question, there hasn't.

Speaker 19 (01:55:22):
Been a lot of engagement by black leader, black elected
black celebrities.

Speaker 4 (01:55:28):
And you know, it would go a long way to
helping dispel.

Speaker 19 (01:55:34):
Dispel that the initial awareness of the overdose epidemic was
portrayed as affecting white folks.

Speaker 4 (01:55:43):
This has not been the case all along.

Speaker 19 (01:55:47):
So the narrative of white overdose has obscured what has
been going on in our black communities, and the shame
and the stigma make it difficult for folks to come
forward and talk about it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:59):
That makes it difficult.

Speaker 19 (01:56:00):
We still have challenges getting connected to treatment, Medicaid, insurance,
all of these things that are barriers to us getting
care are happening while the numbers are going down in
white communities, and so part of it is we don't
have a champion, right. That's in part why the network

(01:56:23):
got started, so we can elevate the folks who've been
doing work fighting HIV, fighting health epidemics in our community,
but also to be able to try to identify a
champion to take away the stigma of this.

Speaker 4 (01:56:37):
Look what Magic did with HIV.

Speaker 19 (01:56:39):
We do not have one single celebrity that you can
mention that is associated. And there is no question in
my mind that the viewers people have lost folks to overdose,
People have had family members and friends struggle with substance use,
with addiction, and we can't pretend it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:56:59):
Happen to us. We have to take charge of it
because we're not going to get any help from you
no where.

Speaker 19 (01:57:05):
This is about organizing and mutual aid and we have
a simple way to do it.

Speaker 11 (01:57:11):
Good. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:57:13):
All right, well, Tray said, folks want to reach out
to your organization, where do they go.

Speaker 4 (01:57:18):
If they want to, They're going to go to you
can Save Lives dot org.

Speaker 19 (01:57:23):
The press conference is on March twenty sixth, but all
the information is at that website.

Speaker 4 (01:57:29):
And you know, again, we'd.

Speaker 19 (01:57:30):
Love the support for the National Black Harm Reduction Network.
We're new and we want to do for our folks
what we know is needed.

Speaker 2 (01:57:42):
All right, Well, Sully appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:43):
Thanks a lot, Thank you, Roland.

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
Folks, the White West Virginia couple convicted for using their
black adopted children as slaves where they going to spend
a long time in prison. They got cities to a
combine three hundred and seventy five five years. Donald ray
Lance received the sentence of one hundred and sixty years
after being found guilty of forced labor, human trafficking, child abuse,
and neglect. Gene K Whitefeather was sentience to two hundred

(01:58:11):
and fifteen years for the same charges in addition to
violating her children's civil rights. The couple was arrested in
twenty twenty three following a wellness check during which authorities
discovered two of their five adopted children locked in a
shed on their property. The shed contained only a small
porta potty and lacked running water. A fourteen year old

(01:58:32):
boy was reportedly found with open swords on his bare feet.

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
The children tol authorities that they were forced to sleep
on the concrete floor without a mattress or any padding. Well,
I'm sure there's going to be some people waiting in
prison to make them their slaves back.

Speaker 8 (01:58:47):
Oh yeah, and they deserve every bit of what they're
about to get.

Speaker 10 (01:58:51):
And I'm glad they got that many years.

Speaker 8 (01:58:52):
I was very glad to see they got in the
hundreds of years, because.

Speaker 10 (01:58:57):
This is a foreignt one thing.

Speaker 8 (01:58:59):
I did wonder though, it's how long did this go
on before that person saw it and made that welfare check,
because if they had these teenagers out there working on
this farm in that land, surely people saw it and
didn't question. I don't know how it persisted as long
as it did, whatever period of time that was, but
I'm glad that she threw the book at him, and
the judges comments on this were very strong, So I'm

(01:59:20):
glad to see that this outcome happened.

Speaker 2 (01:59:24):
Indeed. Indeed, indeed, Michael.

Speaker 16 (01:59:27):
Yeah, this is a tragic story. I'm glad they're called.
I'm glad they're going to prison. One was sentenced to
one hundred and sixty years in prison. But you know,
this is horrible. But this also speaks to the crisis
when it comes to black adoption and the need for
more African Americans to adopt, you know, African American children

(01:59:51):
as well.

Speaker 11 (01:59:52):
So, yeah, this is a tragic story.

Speaker 16 (01:59:55):
Hopefully these children get the help that they need so
to you know, repair the psychological damage over time that
that they suffered.

Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
Absolutely folks last weekend. We'll first I remembering on March
fourth broadcast, Tiffany Lofton told us about the whether the
Students Association having an Ilegislative conference in d C and
how they need to raise about thirty nine thousand dollars
for some students at Florida, A and M to attend.

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
Well, we folks, because of y'all largest, we've raised way
more than that, and those students are actually going to
be meeting this weekend. Ledge com the conferences, of course,
is where students can learn the basics of advocacy, and
I'm going to be speaking to them tomorrow. So yeah,
it's taking place this weekend. And so the students for

(02:00:46):
FAM you put this video thanking those of us for
helping to raise the money to get them to d C.

Speaker 19 (02:00:54):
From FAMI in to you, thank and supporters for helping
us wrattlers get all the way to DC to continue.

Speaker 7 (02:01:03):
Our advocacy efforts.

Speaker 4 (02:01:05):
We appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (02:01:11):
All right, So I look look forward to seeing them
tomorrow they're at Florida and Michael Mapp thank you very
much for joining us on today's show.

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