Epstein Bill Awaits Trump, Ind. Mom’s Car Birth, Tuskegee Settlement, Fuentes Threat, Fanbase Update

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Today Wednesday, November nineteen, twenty twenty five. Coming up on
Rolling Mark unfiltup streaming live of the Black Star Network.
Congress is waiting on Donald Trump's signature as the FC
files takes center stage. We'll talk with Congresswoman young A
Press of Massachusetts about this very issue. A black Indiana
mom was sent home from the hospital while in active labor,

(00:34):
only to give birth in her car minutes later. Along
with her attorneys, she's demanding accountability and real change. Tuskega
University has settled its federal lawsuit against the American Veinary
Medical Association, ending a major legal battle over accreditation for
the nation's only HBCU vent school. We'll talk with the
school's president. White nationalist Nick Fuintez is planned to infiltrade

(00:57):
politics and the right says, you know what, we need
him on our side. I told y'all they want to.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Appeal to racists. Oh, Lawrence B. Jones, he's gotta be white.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
You know, you gotta be real dumb on Fox News
and you sitting next to Angeley, Aaron Hart and Brian
kill me.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
He had a meltdown.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
He said it was just so unfair that Donald Trump
was a little proof of rating. Really Lawrence, it looked
like an ass kissing full tech talk Isaac Casey.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Third one.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
It was an update on fan base. We'll also talk
about AI and music.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Folks.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
It is time bring the funk rolling back. Unfilcher all
the black Sudden network looks he.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Saw it. He's right on.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Top and.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Best believe he's going.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
That's how he's lost to politics entertainment.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Just it's.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
He's by stress.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
She's real.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Question though, he's rolling.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
So Donald Trump called meste files of hoax.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
So why is ther bill going through his desk to
literally open up all of those files? Are you doing
the twice in peach, criminally convicted fellowman in chief, the
con man, Don Trump himself, he's been fighting like mad
to keep those files from being made public. Well, guess what.
Now You're gonna have nearly one hundred thousand pages of

(02:59):
documents collect by the Department of Justice during various fellow
investigations with regards to the drama of Jeffrey Epstein's longtime girlfriend,
Julaane Maskwall, you know, the one who Donald Trump moved
to a minimum security prison. Yeah, the bill permission the
Department of Justice to would hold personally identifiable information about victims,

(03:19):
materials related to child sexual abucent information dean classified for
natural defense or foreign policy purposes. I'm not quite sure
of what Jeffrey Epstein could have been doing that falls
into that category, but I'm sure Alan Dershwitz could come
up with some reason to explain that.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Now. It was also interesting today, is that.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Turney General Pam Bondy but mysteriously said it is an
ongoing investigation. What the all these people doing? Matthew's coming
from the Jana Press. Jones right now comes, I'm glad
to have you back.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
What the hell is this woman talking about? I'm confused.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
First when they came in, she said it was all
this new stuff on her desk. She Lea said, well,
ain't no new stuff. Now, it's some new stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
What the hell are you and me?

Speaker 7 (04:19):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (04:19):
There? We go?

Speaker 8 (04:20):
Okay, yeah, rolling, distraction, deflection and competence, obstruction, stonewalling. I mean,
you know which descriptor do you want to choose? Look,
the fact of the matter is, and haven't spent a
lot of time with the survivors of Epstein's trafficking pedophile,
predator Ponzi scheme. They don't want any more investigations. We

(04:43):
don't need any more investigations. We just need these files
to be released. When I spent time with these women,
they said, you know, there's information about my life in here,
crimes that were committed against me. And despite numerous Boyer requests,
I've never been able to access information of out what
happened to me. We are the Epstein files and we

(05:04):
want to be released. I mean, this has derailed permally
deferred dreams for these survivors, many of them who has
fired to be dancers, artists, elected officials, and this pursuit
of accountability and justice and healing has consumed their lives.
It's been an institutional, systemic betrayal from law enforcement for

(05:25):
the government. We need these files released, Roland. We have
no idea how far.

Speaker 7 (05:29):
Reaching this is.

Speaker 8 (05:30):
Epstein has been accused of being a foreign asset. We
know there are implications with banking as well. So we
need these files released, and that's going to inform how
we move with committees. Not only are the Committee on
Oversight and Reform, but there could be more work to
be done on financial services, there could be more work
to be done on judiciary. But for right now, this
is a step in the right direction for these survivors

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and for any survivor who has been silenced, dismissed, or harmed.
This is a victory for the survivor's movement.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Now, one of these right wing groups had this sort
of this undercover steam thing going where they had a
dog official saying that they were redacting Donald Trump's and
other name, other Republicans name from these files. Do you
trust that when they are released that you're going to
actually see the real information?

Speaker 8 (06:21):
Well, certainly using you know, precise language in the subpoena
to ensure that we are getting the only information that
we erected would be the names of survivors.

Speaker 7 (06:33):
But you know, look, Roland, what can we do.

Speaker 8 (06:35):
I mean, there's always going to be the threat of
this administration obscuring facts and data. I mean, they are
more interested in perpetuating propaganda and lives. They are more
interested in distraction and deflection, obstruction and stowwalling. I mean,
let's not forget Roland. This is not some come to
Jesus movement. The fact that we have had thirty three

(06:57):
thousand emails released information from the epscene estate is not
because they suddenly had to turn about and were good hearted.

Speaker 6 (07:06):
It is because their hands were forced.

Speaker 8 (07:09):
Their hands were forced by the procedural work of the
Committee on Government Oversight and Reform, which I said, and
because of the master mind of Summerly, chair of the
Law Enforcement Subcommittee, and our ranking member Robert Garcia, that
forced a subpoena to the Department of Justice, and then
the discharge petition offered by Rocanna and Thomas Massey, which

(07:31):
they stonewalled. That we could have had that signature six
weeks ago, but because they were disenfranchising a dually elected
member of Congress at Alita Guarhalva, Arizona's A seventh Congressional district,
they would not swear her in, which we have done
in many pro forma sessions when members have been elected
in a special election, and they refused to swear her

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in because they knew she would be the two hundred
and eighteen signature on that discharge petition. Donald Trump has
not had to come to Jesus. He don't even know Jesus.
What has happened here is that he knew he was
going to lose, and so he then said, I don't
care release it, and then listen to his language. He said, basically,
he put a caveat on what could be released. We

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need everything. And then what happened with Republicans in the
House after they had refused to sign that discharge petition
all these many weeks, Then they fell in line because
they have a fealty and loyalty to Donald Trump, not
to survivors, not to the people in communities that elected
them to serve. They are more worried about keeping a
job than doing it.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, I get I got a kick out of them
for the longest saying, oh, this is no big deal,
it's nothing, it's a hopes. But damn they fought really
hard to keep this day from coming.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
Well, I mean, Roland, they lie.

Speaker 8 (08:51):
I mean he campaigned on affordability, has and lowered any costs.
He campaigned on the Epstein files and then said it
was you know, nothing to see here, folks, you know,
so look, this is about accountability, and Roland, I have
to be honest, you know, as someone who's done the
work of survivor's justice a long time. And I do
also want a credit to Rona Burke in the Me
Too movement, which is survivor's name to me directly is

(09:11):
something that helped them to get to this moment as well.
That people have said to me, why are you dedicating
so much time to this?

Speaker 6 (09:17):
Why does this matter?

Speaker 8 (09:18):
It matters because there are implications of corruption and a
government cover up, and everyone should care about that. You know,
these people are powerful, They are privileged, the wealthy and
the well connected. They could have storied all of that
privilege for good Roland. Instead they chose to traffic girls.
And as a survivor, I need to say this. You're
seeing grown women in front of you, but when they speak,

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it is just beneath the surface. Sometimes you can see
them regress in real time. They were children, children fourteen
years old as young as who were groomed, preyed upon, exploited, violated,
and trafficked. Jeffrey Epstein used the high schools in Palm
Beach as a hunting ground. So Jeffrey Epstein can rot

(10:01):
in Hell, and myself and our survivor community you're going
to make sure he has no peace while he's there.
And Julai Maxwell, Virginia Giffray's brother. Virginia Giffrey is one
of the survivors who took her life after three decades
of advocacy, and he said Julai Maxwell should not be
at summer camp playing with puppies.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
So Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 8 (10:21):
And Julai Maxwell and their co conspirators, they all deserve
to be held accountable. So wherever Roland these files lead us,
we need to follow.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
What do you make of Larry Summers.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Summers he of course stepped down from the Open AI board,
sipping back from professional committity. It's a lot of people
who were still hanging out with him, kicking it with
him after after that heinous sexual I don't know what
you gonna call it? A sweetheart deal he got and

(10:55):
was no big deal.

Speaker 9 (10:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (11:02):
Again, wherever these files take us, we need to follow,
and there has to be accountability and there has to
be consequences. I know he offered, you know, some some
half assed apologies for his interactions. You know, again, we
don't know who could stand to be implicated, but we

(11:23):
deserve to know everyone this has been an institutional betrayal,
a cover up by the government and law enforcement.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
And again we don't.

Speaker 8 (11:31):
Know who's who's connected, who's implicated and if this could
still be going on. I mean, for people that are
saying why should we care about this?

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Again?

Speaker 7 (11:39):
Government corruption?

Speaker 8 (11:40):
Epstein could have been a foreign asset, their implications to
our financial service industries, to our banks. But but also
we don't know if this is still going on, given
how many accomplices and co conspirators there were in this endeavor,
the powerful, the privilege.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
I have heard some absolutely crazy things.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
In all of this, but I probably wasn't prepared for
the sheer stupidity of Meghan Kelly when she made this comment.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
And let me play.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
Was this about the ages?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, hold on one second, age, hold on one second.
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
This is Meghan Kelly talking about the Epstein case. And
well they weren't five years old, they were fifteen.

Speaker 10 (12:32):
Listen to this show Wow for Epstein. I've said this before,
but this is a reminder. I do know somebody very
very close to this case who was in a position
to know virtually everything, not everything, but virtually everything. And
this person has told me from the start, years and
years ago that Jeffrey Epstein, in this person's view, was
not a pedophile. This is this person's view who was

(12:54):
there for a lot of this, but that he was
into the barely legal type like he liked fifteen year
old girl. Yes, and I realized this is discussing. I'm
definitely not trying to make an excuse for this. I'm
just giving you facts that he wasn't into like eight
year olds, but he liked the very young teen types
that could pass for even younger than they were, but

(13:16):
would look legal to.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
A passer by.

Speaker 10 (13:20):
And that is what I believed, and that was what
I reliably was told for many years. And it wasn't
until we heard from Pam Bondi that they had tens
of thousands of videos of alleged forgive me. They used
to call it kitty porn now they call it child
sexual abuse material on his computer that for the first
time I thought, oh no, he was an actual pedophile,

(13:42):
I mean, only a pedophile it gets off on young
children abuse videos. She's never clarified it. I don't know
whether it's true. I have to be honest. I don't
really trust Pambondi's word on the Epstein matter anymore. Yeah, so,
I don't know what's true about him. But we have
yet to see anybody come forward and say I was

(14:05):
a like A. I was under ten, I was under
fourteen when I first came with WOWS perview. Look, it's
you can say that's a distinction without a difference.

Speaker 11 (14:16):
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
I think there is a difference.

Speaker 10 (14:18):
There's a difference between a fifteen year old and a
five year old.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
You know, it's just wow, I'm sorry, wow, the barely
legal part.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
If you're if Jeffrey Epstein is trafficking fifteen your girls,
they're not women, they're girls.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
That's called rape, that's not And this is a so
called lawyer, Megan Kelly, I please.

Speaker 8 (14:45):
Yeah, so called will be the right word. First of all,
we know that she does not follow any facts. She
doesn't know what she's talking about.

Speaker 7 (14:51):
Same reason.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
Last week she was talking about black women who.

Speaker 8 (14:53):
Wear their hair however they want and not experience, you know, discrimination,
and we got a whole Crown Act about banning race
hair discrimination.

Speaker 7 (15:01):
So you know, she is not well read.

Speaker 8 (15:03):
Not well versed, and clearly an apologist and an enabler
for pedophiles. And I'm not surprised because we have seen
systemically Republicans. They have been given cover to everybody from
Jim Jordan to Matt Gates, to Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein.

(15:23):
You know, so birds of a feather, But that is
just shameful and disgusting. We are talking about children, and again,
you are changed permanently on a cellular level. It is
a lifetime sentence. What any survivor has endured, You revisit it,
you live it for the rest of your life. That

(15:44):
impacts the intimacy of your relationships emotionally and physically. It
changes how you navigate the world, It changes how you
see yourself.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
For every single survivor.

Speaker 8 (15:54):
Of seens trafficking, and by the way, this may go
down as the biggest human trafficking operation in the history
of this country, there might have been as many as
a thousand survivors, which is again why we need the
full release of these Epstein files.

Speaker 7 (16:07):
But yeah, many many victims.

Speaker 8 (16:11):
Lives changed forever, and they are so deserving of these
files to be released so we can get them one
step closer to accountability, to healing.

Speaker 7 (16:21):
And I won't say justice.

Speaker 8 (16:23):
Justice would mean that they would never have been violated
in these violent and egregious ways by this pedophile, predator
Ponzi scheme.

Speaker 7 (16:33):
Just absolutely disgusting.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
And I think also disgusting is to listen to a
Republican's Life speaker Mike Johnson say, well, you know Democrats
have these for four years and they did nothing.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
No, that was an investigation. They could not be released.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
In fact, the papers, I mean, this is what's again
what they will brazenly lie. And Julia Brown, who is
the journalist with the Miami Herald, who is really broken,
his wide open. She has had to correct Mike Dohnson,
stephen A. Smith, all these people who've been yelling and screaming,
who don't know crap, And she's like, no, they could

(17:11):
not release the files.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
Roland.

Speaker 11 (17:14):
They don't care.

Speaker 8 (17:15):
And you're using the word governed very loosely, because I
don't call that. What has happened under Republican majority, it's
been chaos. They are as incompetent as they are indifferent.
They are operating with a deficit of empathy and compassion,
and they're clearly clueless about what the American people shall
go with and care about. The majority of the people

(17:36):
in this country want these files released and do believe
that the government did play an active role in the
stonewalling of these files being released and are unhappy with
the way that Trump has handled it. So those chickens
will come home to rooster right now. That discharge petition
passed the House past the Senate by unanimous consent. Donald

(17:59):
Trump has ten days to sign it, and then thirty
days from the signature of that discharge petition for the
full release.

Speaker 11 (18:08):
Of those files.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Last one hear. This is Mike Johnson, This is Michael.
Michael Schneil had this video.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Johnson wasn't happy at all that the Senate just simply
came to the House and they were like, whoop, gone passed.
It was the amel's consent. He was not to please.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
What list?

Speaker 7 (18:29):
Is this any reaction to Leader Thoon?

Speaker 2 (18:32):
You seeing the bill without adding amendments or changing it.

Speaker 12 (18:34):
I am I'm deeply disappointed in this outcome.

Speaker 13 (18:39):
I think.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Wow, I'm told I've been at the state dinner.

Speaker 13 (18:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (18:42):
I was just told that Chuck Schumer.

Speaker 14 (18:44):
Rushed to the floor and put it out there preemptively.

Speaker 11 (18:47):
It needed amendments.

Speaker 14 (18:48):
Wow, President about that.

Speaker 11 (18:50):
We see what happened.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
So is he do you think he may beat away?

Speaker 8 (18:52):
You say he's supportive of it in its current form.

Speaker 14 (18:58):
We both have a conservative We'll see.

Speaker 15 (19:01):
I'm sing, are you frustrating the majority?

Speaker 4 (19:05):
There are the majority of there?

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Look at that?

Speaker 7 (19:09):
So Roland, can I just say.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
These fake ask Christians.

Speaker 8 (19:16):
I don't know what else to say.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
I mean, just they.

Speaker 8 (19:19):
Speak with a mouthful of scriptures and carry a heartful
of hate. Marion Wright Edelman said that if you don't
stand for the children of the world, you.

Speaker 6 (19:25):
Don't stand for much.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
Shameful and disgusting. The only the only.

Speaker 8 (19:33):
Light that I see in this moment is that they
are being fully exposed. And I hope the American people
are paying attention.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I agree all these people
they love Jesus, and they all talk about righteousness, and
they love praying and singing and all that good stuff.
But when it's time to actually show what a Christian
looks like, it's amazing how they turn into well, I
don't know, Heavens.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
Roland, I don't know.

Speaker 8 (20:01):
They must be reading that Trump Bible, you know, the
woman he was selling that he holds upside down.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
You need to name one script.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Oh you mean either one that has as a as
a two.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Corinthians exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
You know what rolling wild I got.

Speaker 11 (20:15):
You.

Speaker 8 (20:15):
Let me be selfish for a moment. I keep being
asked about Margie Taylor Green's I want to know what
you think.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Oh, here's the deal. Martine Taylor Green, she crazy, but
Shane's stupid.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
She sees what's about to go down. She sees that
she here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Remember when Democrats last had control, she had no committee assignments,
she had nothing.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Marty Taylor Green is like, come January twenty.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Twenty seven, my ass gonna be the minority, and I
am hoping the Democrats don't snatch my committees so I
can be on something.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
She does.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
She know they are going to lose the high She
knows that they have screwed up the economy, they have
kissed Trump's ass so much so she is sitting here
trying to build up as much goodwill as possible because
what she does not want to do is see.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
A repeat for two years where she sits on.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
No committee, can question anybody, and all she has leugh
to do is just sitting in her office and be
on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
That that's what this is.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
To see how aggressively she is opposing them on healthcare,
opposing them on the Epstein.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Issue, in so many issues.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
She sees what is coming a year from now, They
are going to get molly wopped, and she is like,
she wants to.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Wear my T shirt. We tried to tell you, well,
you know.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
This is the way I see it.

Speaker 8 (21:47):
You know, myself representative to leave representative omer our pictures
were used as target practice by Margie Hilly Green for Congress.
So I have been on the receiving in the violence
that she incites. I would say that it's not just
her rhetoric that's been violent, but also the policies that
she has supported. This is certainly a hostile administration. And

(22:10):
so you know, look, I am a woman of faith.
I believe in the capacity of everyone to evolve and
to atone and to redeem themselves.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
And so we'll just see how she moves and how
she votes.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Listen, I'm real clear.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
I can accept somebody saying I made a mistake, please
forgive me.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
And all of that.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Don't mean I'm inviting your ass to the house.

Speaker 8 (22:37):
Well, you know, we're too liberal about who gets to
come to the cookout anyway.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
No, no, hell no, not need listen.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Listen, Anyway, I got some family members who I will
tell your ass can't come to my house. So you
gotta understand you're talking to the person who when my
grandmother died. When I landed in Houston, my mama said,
her brothers and sisters all voted for me to be
the sergeant at arms at the funeral.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
It was my job. I'm not lying. It was my job.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
If anybody sat and sit up and said I want
to speak to jass down, I lerit is food right
next to the podium, it was kind of like, nope,
you can't speak.

Speaker 8 (23:17):
Well, they're telling me I got to get to the
next thing better way.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
All right. I appreciate it so much. Keep up the
good fight.

Speaker 7 (23:24):
You got it.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Thanks a lot.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
All right, folks, I'm gonna go to a break. We'll
be right back rolling up unfiltered on the Black Study Network.

Speaker 16 (23:33):
In this country right now, you have people get up
in the morning and the only thing they can think
about is how many people they can hurt.

Speaker 13 (23:40):
And they've got the power. That's the time for morning.

Speaker 14 (23:44):
For better or worse.

Speaker 15 (23:45):
What makes America special, it's that legal system that's supposed
to protect.

Speaker 7 (23:50):
Minorities from the tyranny of the majority.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
We are at a point of a moral emergency.

Speaker 17 (23:58):
We must raise a voice of out, We must raise
a voice of compassion, and we.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Must raise a voice of unity.

Speaker 18 (24:08):
We are not in a crisis of party versus party.
We are in a crisis of civilization, a humans rights crisis,
and a crisis of democracy itself. And guess what, You've
been chosen to make sure that those that would destroy,
those that would hate, don't have.

Speaker 19 (24:28):
The final say and they don't ultimately win.

Speaker 13 (24:32):
Oh, Bishop TV jents and you're watching Roland Martin unfiltered.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
All right, y'all, let's talk interest my panel.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
When Cony CEO, co founder of Politicking, out of DC
after theon Bay Carter Social Professor, School of Public Policy,
University of Maryland, author of American Wild, Black African Americans,
Immigration and the Limits of a Citizenship, joining us from
DC to reach a londing principal and final femail communications
from Philadelphia. Glad to have all of y'all, why Coney,
I thought with you it truly?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
First of all, I.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Just got to go ahead and just get y'all thoughts
on that trifling as Megan Kelly for those comments.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
You a mute.

Speaker 7 (25:18):
The congresswoman said it best.

Speaker 9 (25:20):
Those comments were discussing in heinous Roland and unfortunately are
the thoughts of an apologist.

Speaker 11 (25:26):
Right.

Speaker 9 (25:27):
We can't distinguish between somebody raping, molesting, sex trafficking, a
five year old versus a fifteen year old.

Speaker 7 (25:34):
We just can't do it. And those comments were extremely, extremely.

Speaker 9 (25:37):
Salacious, but unfortunately are the comments of many people who
are listeners of that show and that people that are
continuing to support this administration despite the really nasty things
that I think we're going to see come out in
the next thirty days.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Beyond me.

Speaker 20 (25:54):
Absolutely, I mean, listen, we're talking about girls and their women,
but the evil way she was referring to them in
their present state, these were girls, These.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Were not barely legal.

Speaker 20 (26:07):
They were not legal, and that was the point. And
she's like, some people call it a distinction with out
a difference. It is a distinction without a difference. We
can call it whatever we want, fabophilia, pedophilia, whatever you like.
The fact of the matter is you had an adult
man praying on some of the most vulnerable people he
could get his hands on, and he used a network

(26:29):
of people to traffic these young women to cover up
their abuses, and then had a lot of people who
were making it easy for him to stay out of
prison and to continue to abuse, and to continue to
have connections and continue to use his wealth to get
around this. So the fact that Megan Kelly sits up

(26:50):
there and defends this dead man. We know this isn't
anything to do about getting the language right in everything
to do about trying to offer some sort of pretexts
to excuse all of the men's names that we might
see in these files who are likely to have had
some interactions with these young girls. And I think it's

(27:12):
important to say that because Jeffrey I've seen is dead
and gone, but these files live on, and we know
that there's so much more to uncover, and so she's
basically offering or trying to offer an out. But it's disgusting,
it's abhorrent, it's gross, and unfortunately far too common in
our culture.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
Teresa, Yeah, I echo the sentiment of my two panelists.
I mean, outside of saying, you know, this is looks
like a pedophile network. It isn't just men that could
be pedophiles. Women absolutely can be pedophiles as well. And
I think, you know, Meghan Kelly was a pure example

(27:52):
of what a heinous description of how you try to
figure out a communication message or another perspective on a
mainstream medium. I think it's just a disgrace, and it's
actually a part of Trump's playbook.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Absolutely, and so it is again amazing to just sit
here and watch these crazy, deranged people. So now when
Cooney Trump is on the clock, the question now is
is he going to veto the bill, sign it or
do a pocket veto by not even responding.

Speaker 9 (28:32):
I think in the next thirty days we're going to
see Trump sign it. But what I think will end
up happening is that it's going to be held up right.
I don't think that they're going to release all of
the files. I don't think that we're going to get
the transparency that the American people are seeking. And I
hope that Congress continues to hold Trump's feet to the
fire in this It's going to be really, really important
that all of the people that voted to pass this

(28:53):
Epstein Transparency Bill continue to hold the president accountable if
he does sign this bill moving forward to ensure that
all of the names are released, with the exception of
course of people that were protected and the.

Speaker 7 (29:05):
Miners, et cetera.

Speaker 9 (29:06):
But all the names must be released, all the locations
must be released. Like Congresswoman Aana Presley said, we have
to make sure that we start to detangle this criminal
network because that's what it is. It's a network of
people that have been protected by their prestige, that have
been protected by their power, and we simply cannot continue
to let them get away. Like you mentioned, although Jeffrey

(29:28):
Epstein is deceased, there are so many other people that
need to be held accountable and liable for their crimes.
Gi Justlain Maxwell is one of them. She's not getting
held accountable enough in my personal opinion. But there are
others that we need to continue to see prosecuted for
their crimes against young women, for their crimes against you know,
the entire United States, and really we have to continue

(29:50):
to push these things forward. We have to make sure
that they're held accountable, and we have to make sure
that accountability is set out.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Absolutely.

Speaker 20 (30:02):
I mean, I think Trump knows he does not have
a veto proof majority here, like he's going to get
If he vetos it, they're just going to push it
back through. So I think he will sign it. But
I have to agree with wakoone. He's going to slow
walk it. He's going to hope he forget, He's going
to hope it gets lost. In the holiday season, people

(30:23):
like to sometimes let things out, like right around the holidays,
when people are busy, when people are celebrating and not
paying as much attention. But I think at this point,
by continuing to stonewall, he's actually piqued people's interests.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
So people who normally wouldn't go.

Speaker 20 (30:37):
In for things like this are now all of a
sudden going to be paying attention. So I don't think
Donald Trump has any way to get out of this.
And it's funny like his undoing has really been his
own making. He made a lot of hay about these E.
Fsteine files in twenty twenty four when he was running,
and now here we are and he actually has the
power to release he's still trying not to, but clearly
his party has turned on him, and I don't think

(30:59):
there's any coming back him on that, on this, on
this Teresa, Trump has proven time.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
And time again that he is going to go back
on his word. Either he's going to be honest if
he feels like it, or he's going to be a denier.
And I think when he signs it, I do believe
this is going to go forward. I don't believe any
more stalling is going to happen on his Then he
said release the files. That's what he said on True
Social his platform. So we're going to see the files released.

(31:28):
We don't know when it's going to be released, but
I think when it's released, I think you'll see all
of you know, Trump's back. He has friends, right, but
he also has those that he's done wrong, i e.
Marjorie Taylor Green and others. He's then back door and
called the Trader. So I believe they will also arm
that their forces and make sure they're prepared to come
at Trump when necessary.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
All right, folks, let's talk about this story for the
second time in the week. We've got a story involving
a black pregnant mother who claims the hospital mistreated hert
Mercedes Wells, she was wheeled out of Crown Point, Indiana's
Franciscan Health Crownpoint Hospital by security while she was in
active labor and forced to give birth on the side

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of the road eight minutes later.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
The Wells family says they spent six.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Hours of the hospital pleading with staff as Mercedes contractions.
Contractions came just the men apart despite her pain, and
nurse sent her home without.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Even letting her see a doctor.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Mercedes, her husband, Leon, and their attorney Caddon Lambert joins
us right now, glad to have all three of you. Okay,
So Mercedes and Leon take us through going to the hospital.
You're going in. What happens when you initially go in?

Speaker 21 (32:49):
When we get there, we're put in a triage room.
I'm going through labor. My contractions are hitting me. I'm
squeezing my mom hand what she said, so hard that
it felt like her hand was going to break.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Literally.

Speaker 21 (33:06):
The nurse comes in and she's she says, okay, I'm
gonna check you.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
She checks me.

Speaker 21 (33:15):
She says I'm only three centimeters, so she wanted to
wait for two hours and come back and check me again.
I began walking through the halls and everyone on staff
sees me in agony and pain. They see that I'm
in active labor.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
So they see it and all of a sudden, okay,
so what then happens? I mean, I mean, no one's
coming to your aid, no nurse, no doctor. Are you
are y'all yelling saying can we see a doctor? Can
we can we see somebody? She is clearly about to
have this baby.

Speaker 21 (33:55):
Yeah. The nurse said that I wasn't an active labor,
and the doctor never came into my room. I never
heard from a doctor.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Now one time and.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Y'all were in the hospital six hours, Yes, six hours,
not one time a doctor comes in.

Speaker 21 (34:15):
No, she told me that doctor's order said I had
to be discharged.

Speaker 13 (34:22):
Wait.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Wait, the nurse said, the doctor's orders were for you
to be discharged, but the doctor never saw you.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Exactly, Cannon, what the.

Speaker 22 (34:37):
Hell you're right to ask that question? You put your
finger directly on the issue.

Speaker 18 (34:44):
Uh.

Speaker 22 (34:44):
The unbelievable circumstances of this situation are these. They let
a woman with an active labor, an active labor leave.

Speaker 11 (34:53):
Their hospital when they were when when they never.

Speaker 22 (34:57):
Allowed her to be seen and examined by a doctor,
and yet they use that as the excuse for why
she was discharged. And by the way, she was discharged
and accompanied by security.

Speaker 11 (35:07):
Now you explain to me why that is.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Wow.

Speaker 22 (35:10):
Yeah, I mean, the reality of this is very simple.

Speaker 11 (35:14):
Right. We should be able to agree.

Speaker 22 (35:16):
We should be able to agree that a pregnant woman
who is an active labor should be seen by a doctor.
We should be able to agree that a pregnant woman
who is an active labor, and that is a season.
She got three children beforehand, so she knows what her
body is telling her. But before you discharge her that
at the very least, a doctor should be in a

(35:37):
position to determine whether or not that's necessary. You shouldn't
be making decisions based on someone's economic position or their
ethnic position as to whether or not you're going to
discharge somebody. You should be instead rendering care. And we
don't know that happened here. We don't think that it did.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
So okay, so security score show out. Yes, you get
in the car. Leon what happens.

Speaker 23 (36:06):
So as I'm driving about eight minutes away, was actually
about five minutes away at the time, when when my
wife said she had to push five six minutes away
at the time, as she said she had to push
eight minutes in, I see my baby's head coming out.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
My wife to put my pants down, pull my pants.

Speaker 23 (36:28):
Pull their parents down. Started pulling the pants. She's like, baby,
help me pull my pants down. I have to push,
and uh, I literally see my baby's head called.

Speaker 19 (36:37):
Now on one. I'm like so afraid, Like man, I
don't know what to do.

Speaker 23 (36:43):
You know, I'm not a doctor, you know, I don't
have any type of medical experience.

Speaker 19 (36:47):
I don't know what to do.

Speaker 23 (36:49):
So I literally pulled over and saw, you know, like
my baby's head when I called now on one, and
I literally, you know, helped pull.

Speaker 19 (36:59):
My you know, pull my baby out.

Speaker 23 (37:01):
And yeah, it was this you know, no, go ahead,
go ahead. It was definitely a scary moment, man. I
just I just definitely and I didn't.

Speaker 11 (37:14):
Know what to do.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
But I mean, I take it you were afraid that
if you do something wrong that could drimple down the
health of your.

Speaker 19 (37:21):
Baby and my wife and my wife.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Okay, so, so so you called nine one and one.
So so did the ambulance arrive after you delivered the baby.

Speaker 19 (37:31):
I did not stop for the ambulance.

Speaker 23 (37:33):
So they told me, you know, I called now on
one and I'm like, what should I do? They're like,
wait for the ambulance. I said, I can't wait for ambulance.
My baby's head is right here. I can't wait. And
I was afraid that we if we did wait, they
was gonna take us back to the same hospital that
this mistreatus. That was all that was mock So I
had to drive thirty minutes to the next nearest hospital

(37:54):
to get seen.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Wait.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
So, okay, so when you called now one one, were
they coaching you through.

Speaker 19 (38:00):
They ain't say nothing. I ain't say nothing.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Wait wait wait oh wait withit. Stop stop you're on
for nine one.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
You're not a doctor, you said, I can see my
baby's head, so.

Speaker 23 (38:13):
Blank, wait on a sir, pull over, wait on an ambalance.
I say, ma'am, my baby's head is coming out of
my wife. What should I do? And I kind of
lost it at the time, but I had to catch
myself and she like, just pull over the ambulance that
assist you. I say, ma'am, I can't, I can't wait.

(38:34):
I can't wait. I see my baby's head and my
wife's like I got a push and when she you know,
I literally had to put my finger between my baby's
head and kind of pull it out at the same time.
And luckily not nothing happened to my wife or my baby.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
That is shocking, stunning.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
So you okay, y'all had children before, So Mercedes is
not like this was not your It wasn't your first rodeo,
but your baby gets delivered. Did Chiller cut the biblical cord?
Did you leave it attached?

Speaker 2 (39:13):
You?

Speaker 19 (39:13):
Did you left it? We left your attached. So we
got to the hospital you left.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
The attached Now you got to get behind the wheel.
You drive, You drive to another hospital thirty minutes away.
All right, when you roll up to the hospital, what
did they say and do?

Speaker 19 (39:30):
They was love? It was all love.

Speaker 23 (39:33):
I called the ambulanche now on one again.

Speaker 19 (39:35):
I told him, I said, listen, we on our way.
I'm driving.

Speaker 23 (39:40):
I'm getting off from calum and exit. I'll be getting off.
I'll be at the hospital in five minutes. And he
alerted that. He was like, okay, I alert the alert
the new hospital and they alerted him. And it was
literally twenty people, fifteen twenty people are sitting out there
waiting on this with its blankets and you know tis
in the stretcher, and you know, they came out there

(40:03):
and they helped assist us. And it was it was
it was they greetors, will love and respect that we
that we deserved.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
First of all, Mercedes, how is your how's your child?

Speaker 5 (40:18):
She's doing well?

Speaker 3 (40:20):
M She's safe?

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Can I They absolutely no words. So have you heard
from the hospital. Have you heard from anybody?

Speaker 22 (40:31):
So we we've been asking publicly for an opportunity to
meet with the administration at the hospital because I'm trying
to figure out whether or not they believe somehow that
their policies and procedures, their protocols they are in place,
would allow for something like this to happen. You have
to imagine that they don't. We want to talk to
them about why this happened, how this happened, and what

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they've done about it.

Speaker 11 (40:52):
So far, they have told us that they have.

Speaker 22 (40:54):
Internal investigations that they're engaging in, and that through HIPPO
they also don't want to violate HIPPA.

Speaker 11 (41:00):
Well, we don't concern ourselves with hip, but we want
to talk to them.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait wait, See that's
the same crap it in Dallas. HIPPA and it's HIPPA
applies to the patient.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
That's right, That's right, This is the patient and that's
the point, right.

Speaker 22 (41:16):
I mean, Roland, listen, you have it, You have it
directly on and I know you know about this. You
know about the fact that infant mortality rates are three
times more than three times yep higher in the black community.
Black women are more subjected to adverse at consequences in
birth than are any other group of women. And so
you're right, this whole hip of thing Number one you're right,

(41:37):
it does. It applies to the patient. And guess who
the patient is the very people that want to talk
to them. So that's not really a real basis for
them to avoid addressing this issue. But they throw that
out there because there's a red herring. All that is
is just it's pie in the sky. The other thing
that they say to us as to why they can't
meet us in the way of their generalized statement that
they put out is that they can't talk to us

(41:57):
because of the fact that they have an internal investigation. Well,
we want to know what are you invested?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait, hold hold up.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
If you're having an intel investigation, don't you need to
talk to the people that led to the internal investigation.

Speaker 11 (42:13):
Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say, Who are.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
You talking to? You go talk to the nurse, the doctors,
and not the person.

Speaker 11 (42:21):
Right.

Speaker 22 (42:21):
Oh, there's there's You know, these folks are an amazing,
amazing couple and that beautiful little baby is going to
have a great, great life because of them. You see
a show and you see a hero right in front
of us. But they should have never been in a
position where they had to prove that this early okay.
The bottom line is is that there is no way

(42:43):
in the world that a woman had hit that is
having contractions one minute apart should be discharged from a
hospital and told that she's not in active labor. And
so we want to talk to them and find out
how it is that that somehow is okay. We still
do this day, don't know whether or not the woman
who is responsible for this, the nurse, whether she's still
employed there or not.

Speaker 11 (43:01):
She should be discharged. She should be fired period.

Speaker 22 (43:03):
That's something that instead of sending out that generalized statement
that they sent out two days ago, that's instead what
they should be letting us know, and they should let
us sit and talk with them, because otherwise they put
us in a position where we have no choice but
to file suit. And we're not looking to try and
bully anybody, but at the same time, we are certainly
looking to hold people account.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
It is amazing.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
I don't understand how you can have an investigation if
you don't hear from the party that was hurt by
this to get their side, and then once you get
here from Leon and Mercedes, you then can compare to

(43:47):
what the nurse and the doctor and then you can
pull videotapes because cameras are all in these hospitals, and
then you can pull records, and the records if Mercedes
and Leon says we never saw a doctor, then all
of a sudden you pull medical reports and say, well,
there's no doctor's name on here.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
But you kind of got to hit.

Speaker 22 (44:10):
Wow the world and the reality of it is is
that when I look at like I said, when I
look at what Leon is doing right now, when he's
been asking people for assistance, we haven't asked right now.
Our ask right now is that people continue to press
and understand that this is the type of thing that
if you sweep it under the rug, if attention is
not paid to this, then what they will do is

(44:31):
they will get away with this. They'll ignore it, they
will go away, they will not step to the plate.
And the only thing that we can do is to
continue to press. We're asking for the public, your audience,
to be active in participating in the support of the
Wells family. We want people to email that hospital, we
want people to call that hospital. We want people to

(44:53):
let that hospital know that this type of behavior, this
type of conduct, this protocol that they have in place
that would allow them to like, this's to happen is unacceptable.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
What is the email and the phone nub of the hospital.

Speaker 11 (45:04):
We'll get that to you right away.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, we'll get give it because I want to be
able to.

Speaker 22 (45:09):
First of all, Fiscan Hospital and they're in Crownpoint.

Speaker 11 (45:13):
Indiana, and I know hell that in the hospital.

Speaker 22 (45:16):
Is Franciscan Hospital and Crown Point, Indiana. And Leon has
done an excellent job in interfacing with the many many
supporters that have been kind enough to talk to him
through his social media and he's been asking for some support,
and believe me, people have.

Speaker 11 (45:33):
Been doing so.

Speaker 22 (45:34):
But instead of sitting around and saying like like many
of us do, will shake our head and say this
is disgusting. We know that this is wrong. There are
some things that we can do. We should actively participate
in supporting the Wells family. They should not have gone
through this and they should be supported.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Here with the iPad, folks, write this number down Franciscan Health,
Crown Point Hospital phone number is two one nine.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Uh. This is Crownpoint in cromp Ont, Indiana, Indiana. Yeah,
bet be.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Sure two to one nine seven three eight two one
zero zero two one nine seven three eight two one
zero zero. Once I'll get an email let me know
that as well, and then I'll give it out.

Speaker 19 (46:17):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
First of all, we are we're happy to hear.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Uh, Mercedes and Leah, what's the name of your child?

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Elena? Elena, Elena? All right? Then, well, uh, y'all, we
don't need a picture of Elena. Is she right there
on the video? The baby right there? Uh?

Speaker 1 (46:34):
So, so first of all, congratulations.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
First of all, thank god she's healthy. Thank goodness both
of you are okay.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
It is still that was still a traumatic experience.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
And listen, I've I've dealt with Cannon on many other cases,
and so you y'all are in good hands.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
And y'all we should have given it.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Gim hell and Cannon keep us abreast and updated or
what happens next.

Speaker 14 (46:55):
Thank you, thank you, Thanks all.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Right then, thank you very much. Neil.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
I'm gonna go to you the point that Cannon made.
We've covered on this story many times, the fact that
black women die three times higher rate than white women
in childbirth. And it ain't got to doing money. Serena
Williams when she was having her child and she had
the damn the cuss out the hospital, and here she

(47:22):
married to a white billionaire. She got two three four
five million dollars herself.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
So this is not an issue.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Of class or money. It literally is a matter of
black and white.

Speaker 20 (47:35):
Absolutely. And when you people don't see you as fully human,
they don't see your pain, your very real needs as urgent,
and they treat them as optional, you get things like this.
And thank God that the Wells family and their baby
are safe, and the same for the woman in Dallas.
But how many of these cases that we don't see,

(47:55):
how many people don't have the luxury of video or
social media and we don't know their faces now, we
don't know their names and where these things happen, and
we know the difference maker and many of these cases
is having black obgyns, black nurses who actually take women seriously.
The fact that someone could look at this woman with

(48:16):
tears in her eyes, even if you didn't believe that
she was in quote active labor with one minute contractions,
you didn't even take a second look, You didn't even
try to assist, you didn't.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Try to make her feel better. I mean, you basically.

Speaker 20 (48:31):
Treated her like an inconvenience and treated her life like
it was just nothing something to discard. So, as you say, Roland,
I mean, this is I think highlighting how critical it
is for us.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
To be in these spaces.

Speaker 20 (48:44):
And when we think about all that is happening to
medical education in this country, and with this administration trying
to cap the amount of student loans people can get,
it's going to be an even higher bar for many
of us to enter this profession when we know we
are so desperately needed to prevent the Wells family and
others like them for having to go through something like this.
I mean, the stories and the lawsuits are endless, and

(49:08):
it has not resulted in any change.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
And Teresa, you know who real quiet, all the pro
life folk real quiet.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
Yeah, it makes you want to think about who the
pro life is really for. You know, there's so many
conversations as it.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Relates to.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
Women and abortion, and you know, and it's dawning to
hear one. You know, I'm still taken back by the
story just hearing it in full detail, because you won't
really hear it on mainstream about this outside of clips.
But you know, I'm glad they were on this platform
telling this story because as we can see, there are

(49:48):
more stories that are happening. There are more bills that
are passing locally, but of course naturally, but I think
we really need to start addressing not just the accountability
of the hospital, but of the workers. So like, really,
you know, I think that woman, I think I read
an article that had to say that she was part
of a union, So we really need to start holding

(50:10):
them accountable as well, because you know, there could be
backlash on the employees. But we also had to start
looking at some of these employees who works for these
unions and making sure they're being held accountable because she
could be fired, but she also could be put back
on because of the way her union contract is. So
I think there's so much to look at. But at

(50:32):
the end of the day, we're talking about human life.
You know, black brown are indifferent, and when we talk
about pro life, we need to be thinking about every
single person that comes in and out of establishment that's
looking for health, wellness and peace.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
And cony.

Speaker 7 (50:50):
Like Teresa said, I'm absolutely stunned.

Speaker 9 (50:53):
One thing that I didn't know about the story before
we heard from the Wells family is that they were.

Speaker 7 (50:56):
Escorted out Roland.

Speaker 9 (50:58):
That means they were put out of the hospital I mean,
I'm sure that this woman was in fear of her
life at that point. You know, she was actively in
labor being put out of a hospital. I can't imagine
how that would have felt. But I want us to
dig more into the statistics that we were talking about.
We know that the black montrality rate is three times higher,
but let's compare it against white women. They're only facing

(51:21):
fourteen point five deaths per one hundred thousand live deaths,
whereas for a Black women that's fifty deaths per one
hundred thousand live deaths.

Speaker 7 (51:31):
That's scary.

Speaker 9 (51:32):
That's scary, and that's something that's happening right here in
the United States, the best healthcare system in the world.
I mean, honestly, we can't continue to see this unconscionable
miscarriage of justice when it comes to black women. I
thank god that this woman had a husband that was
able to be there an advocate on her behalf. But

(51:53):
I think about all of the single black women that
walk into hospitals every day that don't have a part,
that don't have an advocate, that don't have anybody with them,
that don't have anybody there to drive them to the
next hospital. That's thirty minutes away. It's unconscionable. We cannot
continue to allow this to happen.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Hell, I think while the brothers ain't never had a
kid before, and they had two previous ones, imagine if
you ain't never had a kid, you like, I don't
know what the hell is going on?

Speaker 9 (52:23):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (52:24):
I mean look, Leon had to be scared to death,
Mercedes scared to death, and again, anything could have happened.
Imagine that umbilical cord was tied around that child's neck.
I mean, I mean, I mean, anything could have happened
in that situation. Listen, I hope they sue a hell

(52:44):
out of this hospital. I mean, light they light Franciscan
the health as y'all. Here's the phone number again, two
to one nine seven three eight two to one zero zero.
Two to one nine seven three eight two.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
To one zero zero.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
I want y'all to blow their phone lines up. I
want them listen and listen, y'all let them know. Matter
of fact, this is about who the hospital administrator they
got they got the information on here, find a provider,
conditioned service, patient resources, because I mean, they need to
hear from folks, because this makes absolutely no sense on here.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
We got they got services. Yeah, they ain't got none
of their people on here. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
We're gonna find out who the hospital administrator is. Uh,
and we're gonna let y'all know how to hit them
up because you know, they need to hear from the
community because this is just absolutely shameful what took place.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
To that family. All right, y'all, we come back.

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Tuskegee was badly the federal government over the actually badly
an organization over their bent school.

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We're talking to the president next. Also, why launch B.

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Jones got to be so stupid on Fox News? I mean,
you already got a bad haircut, but now we got
with his stupidity complaining about Trump's approval rating dropping of
thirty eight percent. So y'all know, we're gonna talk about
his little meltdown on the network.

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So it's a lot to talk about.

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Skeger University is settling into speed with the American veterinary
Medical Association and dropping a federal lawsuited file. Just days ago,
the university file in the emergency motion seeking to block
the Medical Association from proceeding with the hearing that could
have stripped the nation's only historically black veterinary school of
its accreditation. Tuskegee University President Dr. Mark Brown joined us

(57:43):
right now, Dot Glad to have you on the show. So,
first of all, what the hell is going on? How
do we get to this point?

Speaker 12 (57:50):
Hey, thanks a lot Roland for giving us some time. So, Tuskegee,
as you said, is the has the only veterinary school
college of veterinary medicine of any of our historically black
colleges and universities. We've been accredited in doing this since
nineteen forty five. Back in twenty twenty one, we had
a review by the American Medical Veterinaries Association and they

(58:14):
found some concerns, and we have since addressed those concerns.

Speaker 14 (58:18):
That was four years ago. We have not had a
visit by.

Speaker 12 (58:21):
Them since twenty twenty one, and so you can imagine
that as we had gone through the process, we were concerned,
to say the least, when we were scheduled for a
hearing in December on our accreditation, when all of the
data and all the statistics said that we had made
the improvements that they suggested, and so after trying dialogue

(58:45):
for quite some time, we had no choice but to
file a federal lawsuit in the state of Alabama that said,
please follow your own rules, allow due process, and look
at the data that we have that says we are
now very valid and continue to be as we have
for the last eighty years.

Speaker 14 (59:02):
College of Veterinary Medicine.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Okay, I understand they had not been on the campus
in four years. In four years, no visit, no assessment,
no analysis, So they just decided to have a hearing
and not even look at the school.

Speaker 14 (59:22):
So we provided reports.

Speaker 12 (59:23):
We're not sure that they looked at those reports, but
we provided them. But they had not made a physical
visit since twenty twenty one, and as you know, financial
things and a lot of things can change in four years,
and a lot of things had changed, and that was
really our point. We didn't want, I want to make
it clear role and we didn't want our standards to
be any different than the standards that they would have

(59:45):
for any school. We didn't ask for any special recognition
in any way. We simply wanted them to review the
data like they do at other schools, or they should
at other schools, and judged by the same standards. You
can't do that if the data that you're looking at
and review that you have is dated twenty twenty one
and you have not been back since.

Speaker 14 (01:00:05):
But what we were asking for was due process.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Well that's was just so strange to me that they
was just decided to have a hearing and you haven't
even looked at the school in four years.

Speaker 14 (01:00:19):
Well, that was strange to us as well.

Speaker 12 (01:00:21):
Now, granted, once we filed the lawsuit and some things change.
You mentioned that we were able to drop the lawsuit.
That's because instead of giving us a two hour hearing,
they decided to give us a three day hearing pushed
several months back later to the time when they would
actually be able to do it. They allowed us to
bring the witnesses that we wanted to bring forth, and

(01:00:43):
none of these things, again our special circumstances. They're just
following the due process rules that they have established.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
You know, what people don't understand is that this whole
accreditation process can be devastating to a university when you lose.

Speaker 12 (01:01:01):
It, absolutely keep in mind just in terms of context,
and I see the byline on one of your screens
here saying this, but over seventy percent of the veterinarians
of color in this country graduated from Tuskegee University, and
just about every dean of the College of Veterinary Medicine
across the country, not just HBCUs if they happen to

(01:01:24):
be a Black American, graduated from Tuskegee University. So we've
been making a significant impact and contribution both of this
state and the country for some time in the business
of veterinary medicine. However, if you remove the accreditation, even
for a year, that stops the pipeline of new students
coming in at a critical time in the country when

(01:01:46):
the country is short of veterinarians, especially in rural areas
and especially for things like farm animals. So the impact
is significant and it's not a decision that should be
made arbitrarily.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
To that particular point there. And when you talk about
them not coming you also the issue that you have
is that because it comes down to fundraising, it comes
down to a student aid, and so that's that's how
we look That's how Mars Brown was hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
That's how so.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Many other HBCUs have been hurt. Because the reality is
a look at a lot of the HBCUs open, ninety
percent of their budget also comes from student financial aida.

Speaker 12 (01:02:25):
That's absolutely right, and this is not the time to
take away a career feel and a profession that allows
people to build wealth, and a veterinarian is allowed to
do that because of the demand for veterinarians.

Speaker 14 (01:02:40):
You know, one of the issues is always finances.

Speaker 12 (01:02:43):
But we proved that we had profitable years for the
last four years, and we also broke ground on a
new small animal clinic for our School of Veterinary Medicine,
and that part of it, the first part of it,
we did debt free. We think we need an opportunity
to show that our fund finances are strong, our pipeline
is strong, and our product is good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
I want to ask you about another degree program. You
guys have been able to celebrate your Aviation Science degree program.

Speaker 11 (01:03:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
It got restarted thanks to a nearly seven million dollar
grant that came through as a result of Alabama Senator
Katie Britt. You know, there were a lot of people
who were I saw a lot of social media comments.
People were upset when she got an honorary degree from Tuskegee. Uh,
and I had and I had to remind.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
People that listen, Uh, Tuskege' is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
In Alabama as a red state. Two United States senators.
The rally is black folks are still constituents. And I
tell people all the time, whether whether it's a Democrat
or Republican in office, we should be demanding they represent
our interests.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Since we are still constituents.

Speaker 24 (01:03:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
And so talk about uh your the first student getting
his pilot's license as a result of the rekindling of
this aviation program.

Speaker 12 (01:03:59):
Absolute, you know, we are so proud that we have
the blessing I would say to be where the Tuskegee
Airmen proved to the world that people of color, that
black people could fly complex aircraft and have the courage
to do so in combat.

Speaker 14 (01:04:15):
That was on moten Field, and today we're able to
have our.

Speaker 12 (01:04:20):
Students go all the way through to a commercial pilot's license.
And that portion of their program would cost each student
up to ninety thousand dollars, but it costs.

Speaker 14 (01:04:30):
Our first one hundred students nothing.

Speaker 12 (01:04:32):
That's because the program was champion by Senator Britt both
in the previous appropriations bill, and if we ever get
a bill out of the current Congress, it will have
an additional dollars.

Speaker 14 (01:04:44):
In totally almost eleven million dollars.

Speaker 12 (01:04:46):
When you put them together, our students would not be
able to afford Most students would not be able to
simply write a check to go through this program if
it were not for those appropriations. And that's exactly why
we recognized Senator Brett. But more importantly, we recognize these
students because if you look at the percentage of Black Americans,

(01:05:08):
African Americans that are pilots, and you look at the
pilot shortage in the country, you will see that we are,
once again, just like they did in World War Two,
feeling a void that the nation needs, that the nation
should invest in. So we are very proud of what
our students are doing. And I would tell you Roland
that half of this class are female, and the percentage
of African American female pilots in the country is less

(01:05:30):
than one percent, but half of our first class will
be female pilots.

Speaker 14 (01:05:35):
So we're very proud of what we're doing.

Speaker 12 (01:05:36):
We're very proud of the connection of that to our
Suskegee Airmen, and we plan to continue to do it
and are grateful for the appropriation that allows us to
do so and remove the financial barrier.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Well, you know that's going to make a whole bunch
of these magapholde man because they would try to Kirk
and others complained about all our hope. But if I
see a black pilot, I hope they qualified. I'm like, yeah,
they all qualified because they are will train and will
educate in So that's always important there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
And so what else has I got you here? If
you got time?

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
What else y'all got going on that you want to
be able to tell the country?

Speaker 12 (01:06:13):
Well, you know I will tell you this, Roland, And
I know I'm telling you as a fellow, ah spec
you graduate that. You know, the return on investment for
an investment in an historically black college and university is significant.
We are a firm science, technology, engineering, and mathematics school.

(01:06:33):
We also focus on the liberal arts, chemical engineering, aerospace engineering,
architectural design, agricultural We are doing the kinds of things
that I think everybody should be proud of it. And I'll
give you an example that many may not realize. We
are working very hard on cancer research, building a new

(01:06:54):
almost thirteen million dollars genomics cancer research center that looks
at the relationship between gene and cancer. We're using it
with samples from the Black Belt, where some of these
cancers are probably the most problematic in the country. Those
are the kinds of things that Tuskegee students and Tuskegee

(01:07:14):
faculty do each and every day.

Speaker 14 (01:07:16):
And I like to say that we solve the world's
most complex problems.

Speaker 12 (01:07:19):
We work on the kinds of things that people care about,
be that the shortage of veterinarians, the need for aviators,
the importance of agriculture, or cancer research. That's the kind
of things that are happening on this historically black college
and university, and I know it's happening across the country.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
All right, then, well, doc, I did not reggate from
the HBCU, but I'm a Texas a and uder graduate.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
But I've actually done let's see hundred and seven.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
I've actually visited spoken at broadcast my show from fifty
eight of the nation's one hundred and seven HBCUs, including Tuskegee.
I was there and I was ribbing one of your
graduates Uh, Randy who was on our show, Randy Bryant.
She's a Tuskegee grad and she she keep getting gets

(01:08:09):
she gets mad at me because I have never won
any Tuskegee gear on my show.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
I only wear HBCU gear places I've been to. And
I said when I went that Tuskegi hook a brother up.

Speaker 14 (01:08:20):
So the only so, the only reason I'm ready to
fix that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
I'm just letting you know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
I got a whole closet over here dot of HBCU stuff.

Speaker 12 (01:08:31):
Uh, And I'll I got I got three things and
we'll have him in the mail real soon. One of
them will say Tuskegee University, another one will say Tuskegee Airman,
and then there'll be a nice hat that said Alpha Man.

Speaker 14 (01:08:45):
I can send that to you. Then you want to
see all three of that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
I got you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
So I tell them so like crew neck, whatever I
wear it in the winter, a T shirt, I wear
it in the summer that way, because I wear stuff
all the time. So that's how we recognize as we
appreciate you joining us for.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
The HBCU Connect segment.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
That's absolutely great news with the vet school and again
and if folks want to get more information.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Tuskege where they go, tuskege dot eedu.

Speaker 12 (01:09:15):
We've got a three hundred million dollar comprehensive capital campaign.
Go out there and then contribute to schools like this
because we make a difference.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
All right, doctor Mark Brown, I certainly appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Thanks a lot, Thank you. All Right, folks got to
go to break.

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Thank you, Mike.

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All right, y'all. You know it's rough. Fox News, y'all.
They're not happy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Because even according to their own poll, Donald Trump's approval
rating is at thirty eight percent. And now you know,
Fox News is nothing but the propaganda arm of the
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kiss that Trump asks as much as they can. And boy,
it was so dis heartening. It was so sad. I

(01:11:03):
think he was also moved to tears when poor Lil
Lawrence B. Jones sitting next to Airhead Angeley Earnhardt and
Airhead Brian kill Me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
He was apoplectic.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
He just could not understand how dare Americans give their views?
How dare Americans could weigh in and not conclude that
Donald Trump is the greatest person ever in the history
of mankind to occupy any presidential office. He just could

(01:11:41):
not understand watch this.

Speaker 26 (01:11:46):
I'm not going to tell the American people how to feel,
because I think Joe Biden made that mistake of saying, hey,
you know, it's transitory, you're not feeling it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
But it has only been nine months.

Speaker 26 (01:12:00):
The bill, the big beautiful Bill, has not It was passed,
but it's not been implemented just yet. There's still some
time for that, so he's given people. And then when
it comes to some of the energy policy, all of
that has not been implemented just yet. So I'm not
saying hold on a little bit, but I am saying
it's kind of unfair when someone has been there nine

(01:12:20):
months to put it all on them, right, So you know, basically,
the American people are going to decide when they go
shopping who's got the better plan come midterms and.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Everything is on the line.

Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
It's really whether the President's going to have more packed
years of.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Successes or two and then a struggle in the.

Speaker 10 (01:12:36):
Next two if the Democrats can control of the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
On it's only it's unfair. It's been nine months, waite, Lawrence.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Did he not say day one, war's over one, prices down?

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Didn't he declare only.

Speaker 27 (01:13:05):
On only I can fix these things and change these things, and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
It's gonna been nine months. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
I don't recall Lawrence ever saying, hey, right wing, take
it easy. The Inflationary Reduction Act has not fully been implemented.

Speaker 27 (01:13:32):
I don't recall Lawrence Jones saying, hey, guys, calm down
on the right. That infrastructure build that Biden got passed,
that Donald Trump couldn't even put one on the table
for four years. Remember infrastructure week after the infrastructure week

(01:13:55):
after the infrastructure week.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
I don't recall lawnce B Jones on Fox News saying, Hey,
it hasn't been fully implemented, So I don't want to
tell the American people how they should feel. Then I'm
gonna come back and say, how dare you in grates
be upset after just nine months?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Well, Lawrence, forgive me, Lawrence, because this is the Fox Pole,
This is the Fox News poll. You know, Lawrence, the
one that pays you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
The overall job performance of Trump forty one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
He's underwater.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
They love him with border security, integration forty six percent underwater,
foreign policy forty three percent underwater, the economy thirty eight
percent underwater. Tears are even worse thirty five underwater. Healthcare
even worse thirty four underwater thirty four approved, sixty four

(01:15:00):
percent disapprove on healthcare terrors, sixty three percent disapprove, thirty
five percent approve. The economy sixty one percent approve, thirty
percent disapprove. In fact, if you take these six major
things border security, immigration, foreign policy, the economy, tears, healthcare.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
The only one Trump is in positive territory is border security.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
But Teresa, it's just been nine months. How you can't
put all of this on him after nine months? That's
literally what that's literally what kiss has Lawrence B.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Jones just said?

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
Yeah, one thing Lawrence is going to do is sell it.
You know, you know those who watch.

Speaker 11 (01:15:55):
To watch.

Speaker 9 (01:15:58):
Definitely, he's definitely getting something.

Speaker 5 (01:16:03):
Ass He's definitely doing something to keep that seat.

Speaker 28 (01:16:07):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:16:07):
He I love it when he talks about he was
a former Democrats and why Democrats run and why they
lose all the time, and then he's the reason why
he's Republican, and people still question how he became Republican.
It's always the story of the narrative, Like no one
would think he's Democrat unless he says it. But I think,
you know, the two things that I saw in that poll,
especially Fox Newspot, out of all polls, is that border

(01:16:30):
security and immigration where neck and neck, you know, just
a few percentage point is pointage split between each other.
And I think the reason why is because you have
these advertising commercials going widespread with Christino. You know she's
riding horseback talking about you know, ice, Ice. She's definitely

(01:16:57):
putting in the works. So if I'm hearing that department,
it's like, hey, we're winning because you know, we're putting
commercials out. I look like the Ice Barbie of the
face of the movement. But I think the rest of
the car categories are realistic to what everybody is saying.
Healthcare is down, he's not making RFK is not making strides,

(01:17:21):
the Agriculture Department not making strides, and so you know,
I think if it was switched and we actually had
a democratic president, we would actually see that in three months,
Oh you're not doing enough right, and so you know,
I think the commentary is just one a bit hilarious,
but a bit on the naivety. It's either you believe

(01:17:44):
your audience and what they're telling you and you're willing
to fix it, or you're just because you're still just
a talking head that we're paying you for and you're
not telling the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
When when Cooey.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
I got Alawrence, I got some extra chap stick, I
got some extra it's a new one too, because themount
of ass that you are kissing your.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Lips are going to be chapped for a long time. Uh,
we're going there, I mean to sit here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Well, I mean, how can how can how can you
put all of this on him after nine months? I
literally do not recall Lawrence Jones giving Joe Biden a
you know, nine month grace period when he was there.
I bet if we pulled the tapes, Uh, Lawrence was

(01:18:44):
shitting on Biden, shit on Biden after one month.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
But but but this shows you the level of ass kissing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Of the help on Fox News. It shows you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
It shows you how right wing Fox News is, how
they are not fair in balance.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
They don't give a damn about news. They are there
to kiss as much Trump as as possible.

Speaker 9 (01:19:11):
In that case, they've succeeded Ravo. I've always asked myself
where does Fox News find it's black people. Do they
grow them on a farm or is it Ai? Because honestly,
he is one of the best captakers I've ever seen.
I want to know, Roland, when have candidates not been
judged on their first hundred days in office?

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Yeah, we ain't talk that. We ain't even say a
hundred This is nine months.

Speaker 7 (01:19:34):
I mean this nine months.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Paul's are taken over and over and over.

Speaker 9 (01:19:40):
We're still getting complaints after nine months. This tradition of
the first hundred days even was started with Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Right,
this is back in nineteen thirty three. This is a
historical tradition. So now we're not even talking about the
first hundred days. We're talking about nine months in, and
we're still getting complaints.

Speaker 7 (01:20:01):
Again. I think that we have to be more reasonable.

Speaker 9 (01:20:03):
But this is really why it's so important that channels
like this exist role and that networks like this exist,
because we see people on Fox News play caate day
after day after day to Donald Trump and his cronies,
and at this point, I can't understand how the American
people still feel comfortable in ingesting that type of information.

(01:20:24):
Facts are of the facts.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
We have to.

Speaker 9 (01:20:26):
Constantly measure presidents against a barometer, against key performance metrics.

Speaker 7 (01:20:33):
If we're not doing that, how are we supposed to
see if they're being successful or not.

Speaker 9 (01:20:37):
Now we have someone who's telling us that nine months in,
we can't take an assessment of how the president's do it,
so he can continue to fail the course without any assessments.
Moving forward, what we just saw with the government. Trump
down is a direct result of the Trump administration. What
we're going to continue to see in the next three
years is going to be a direct result of the

(01:20:58):
Trump administration. So we have to continue to survey, we
have to continue to use our key performance in axcess
because it's the only way we're going to be able
to keep Donald Trump accountable.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Here's what's hilarious, Nimbi here and go to my iPad.
This is literally Biden's poll numbers January fifty one point
seven and were up to fifty four point eight, and
then it began to fall, and then it was constant
poling forty nine point three, forty seven point one, forty
four point nine. When we got around too this same

(01:21:30):
period in twenty twenty one, forty two point five. I
guarantee you that if we went into the archives of Fox.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
News, we will hear Lawrence B.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Jones, Brian kill Mead, Angela, Aaron Hart, Sean Hannity, Longram
just trashing Biden for low poll numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
But launch it's been nine months. What's wrong with y'all?
You can't put everything on him. We can. That's what
y'all did to Biden. That's what y'all did to Obama.
That's what y'all did to Clinton.

Speaker 20 (01:22:09):
Really well, he's the president. That's the job, right. The
buck stops here. It's the same For a reason, you
can't say I want to own all the good things
and in every trouble that's somebody else's fault. I haven't
had enough time. As you rightly pointed out, he ran
on all of these issues, the tars, he was going

(01:22:29):
to make the economy better. He was going to make
eggs cheaper, he was going to bring down the price
of gas, all of that lies. He was going to
put more money in our pockets. None of us are
seeing it. He was going to.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
Destroy the Department of Education. He did that. He's destroying
the White House doing that. He is, you know, shut
down our government.

Speaker 14 (01:22:50):
Did that.

Speaker 20 (01:22:50):
I mean, he's doing lots of things very successfully. Just
what happens that those things aren't the things that most
people want. And so now he is failing like he
did we did the first go round.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
But people were willing to give it another.

Speaker 20 (01:23:03):
World and he's failing again, and now everybody wants to
come to his aid. This man has campaigned on doing
everything at warp speed, whether it was cheering covid or.
He was going to get us out of these skirmishes
in the Middle East. He was going to do all
the things, and he's failed at each one. And nobody

(01:23:23):
wants to say that.

Speaker 7 (01:23:24):
Now.

Speaker 20 (01:23:24):
Everybody wants to offer this man, who is clearly suffering
in this job or failing in this job, all the outs.
And these were the words that he said. This is
what he campaigned on it. If we can't hold you
accountable for the words that come out of your mouth,
what are we supposed to do?

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Here's the Trump said.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
The problem with the poll numbers is because they keep
pulling stupid people.

Speaker 29 (01:23:50):
Listen, so my poll number is just one down, but
with smart people that gone way up.

Speaker 19 (01:24:01):
They've gotten way up.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
And I mean that.

Speaker 11 (01:24:04):
So for those of.

Speaker 13 (01:24:04):
You, let me show you what he is.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
So he'll sit here, and he'll sit here, and he'll
make jokes and he'll do all of these different things.
But the bottom line is, and again Fox News they
don't know what to do. They just so apoplectic. He
is Fox Business. They're just kind of like, what the
hell's going on.

Speaker 30 (01:24:25):
A new Reuter's poll shows President Trump's approval rating falling
to its lowest level.

Speaker 13 (01:24:30):
This is because apparently.

Speaker 30 (01:24:31):
Because of prices and the Epstein files, his approval rating
sits at thirty nine percent. That is down nine points
from when he took office.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
I love this here.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
Apparently it's because of the apparelis because of prices in
the Epstein fluff. Well, this is what happens when somebody
lies by prices.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
He's like, oh, no, everything's up, everything's down. It's all down.
Everything's down.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
You name it down, down, down, stop, lock it up,
prices down. It's kind of like, nah, no, it's not, no,
it's not it's not. So all these people are complaining, y'all.
I came across this other video of somebody complaining, and.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Forgive me for not giving a shit. So I see
this video of this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
He's in Dearborn Michigan and Dearborn Michigan. There are a
ton of Muslims there. The right wing has been on
a giehod. They have been attacking folks there. They have
been upset and mad.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
They had been.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Going, I mean, they've going before the city council meeting.
They're upset and been protesting. And this guy is like, what.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Are y'all doing? Are we together? Rowan were real Semitic people.
I voted for Trump. I made the whole community vote
for Trump. We're all Democrats here. Remember that I made
the community vote for Trump. And now look what you

(01:26:16):
guys do. Whoever is the biggest Zionists caused this very simple? Okay,
And Jews are not Zionists.

Speaker 31 (01:26:31):
Zionists can be anybody must Anxietists, Christian Ancionists, they're not real.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
They're not from the blood scients, but they diet profit.

Speaker 11 (01:26:48):
What is it.

Speaker 14 (01:26:56):
The more you try to.

Speaker 31 (01:26:57):
Make islam man become Muslim?

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
So let me get this right. You idiots voted for
Trump because of what is happening between Israel and gossip.
So y'all said, we're gonna penalize Kamala. Now, you and

(01:27:32):
your feelings because the crazy, deranged right wingers who never
liked y'all, who don't want y'all here, who slapped all
of y'all with Sharia law, now they are protesting in

(01:27:53):
dearborn Michigan.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
And you want to care, I you know me, I'm
bean thoughts and prayers.

Speaker 20 (01:28:11):
Well, we've had this conversation so many times.

Speaker 3 (01:28:13):
Roland.

Speaker 20 (01:28:14):
You can have a protest vote, you can vote third party,
you can do whatever you would like to do with
your vote, but you have to know, at the end
of the day, somebody is still going to be elected.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
And you, in this particular case.

Speaker 20 (01:28:24):
Chose Donald Trump because you saw it, for whatever reason,
that he was going to be better than Kamala. When
he's told you on the campaign trail he was going
to help Israel finish the job. He made it clear
that he wanted that land, he wanted to develop it,
he wanted to be resourced there. He did not see
a pathway back for Palestinians in Gaza, and he is

(01:28:46):
kept with that. And this is not I mean, he
has not moved away from Israel at all, and he's
certainly not moved away from the violence in the region,
or the starvation of children, or any of the other
human rights by relations that plagued the Biden administration in
Kamala Harris's campaign in particular. So you can do whatever

(01:29:07):
you want with your vote, but when you realize that
vote has consequences, and they might be higher penalties than
you want to pay, you can't then say I'm upset,
I'm mad. I mean, you can say it, but it's
too late. Now we're here and you made that choice.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Well, Conny, it's real simple. They don't like y'all asses.
They ain't never like y'all. Mean, I don't know what
that dude is, but he might want to get my
book White Fear. How the browning of America is making
white folks lose their minds. It's right here. This is
what it looks like. I have been saying. This is
two thousand and nine of these people. These white folks

(01:29:44):
want this to be white, so they cannot stand that.
They cannot stand the movesrooms in Dearborn. They went before
the city council calling them out mad Adam.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
So I'm sitting there going like, oh so.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
You thought because you got the other in Dearborn to
screw Kamala and vote for Trump and magat was somebody going.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
To give y'all a nice little Q pass. No, they
like appreciate y'all voting for Trump. Thanks for helping them
win Michigan. Now get y'all assess out of our country.

Speaker 7 (01:30:17):
If I was him, I would be scared to show
my face around the community.

Speaker 9 (01:30:20):
He's out there saying, yeah, I got everyone to vote
for Trump, although I'm a Democrat.

Speaker 7 (01:30:25):
Shame all you, brother, This reminds me what I saw
in Miami.

Speaker 9 (01:30:28):
You know, I'm from Miami, Rowland, when all the Latinos
were like a with a little fir Donald Trump. That
was a huge problem. And now these are the same
people that are getting deported, not even not even back
to Cuba, oftentimes being deported to places that are not
even their home countries. Right, because this administration has shown
itself time and time again to be a sham. But again,

(01:30:50):
when you vote on a single issue, when you're a
single party, a single issue voter, and you don't think
about the consequences of your actions, and you don't think
that you're included when the president is viewing bigotry, when
you think that you're excluded from that on account of
your religion or account of your race, you are included.
If you are a black and brown person living under

(01:31:11):
this administration, he's talking to you. If you are a
person that is a non Christian, he's talking to you.
If you're a person that is a non straight person,
he's talking to you. He don't like any of us,
all right, So I think people got to be really,
really really clear. Trump has been very very clear. He's
run on a basis on a premises of white supremacy

(01:31:33):
and that's not going to change. So when I see
brown people saying that they're going to support him or
have supported him in the past, the chickens are simply
coming home to roosts.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Like you said, Roland, Oh yeah, this is a tweet
right here, Tresa, this is dearborn Michigan. It is essentially
an Islamic state operating in America.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
How is this acceptable? Oh? Lord? They upset.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Oh they mad, and they trying to protest, And Teresa,
I'm sitting there like, hey, make don't come high.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Let us y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
Y'all voted with them, dear born, y'all voted with them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
So them chickens coming home to roost.

Speaker 5 (01:32:18):
They say, elections have consequences, and I think people are
feeling it. I think people are trying to figure out
their personal next steps. But overall, you know what I see,
you know, especially in these non months of Trump's presidency,
I think they're also trying to prepare for a JD
Vance presidency. So I'm kind of keeping watch on where

(01:32:42):
he's going, what he's doing, what he's saying, how he's interacting.
You know, I've just seen him peek a little bit
more than uh. And I believe there was a pull about,
you know, his advancement inside of Magna. So I think
we all just need to be prepared for whatever's next,
because one thing about the Magnetine, they will do whatever

(01:33:02):
it takes to make sure they maintain power and authority,
whatever that looks like.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Yep, absolutely, all right, quick, Brant, we come back Donald
Trump now super Christian. Now he supposedly cares about the
Christians being hurt being harmed in Nigeria. And now we
got that super duper policymaker Nicki Minaj endorsing him at

(01:33:29):
the United Nations.

Speaker 19 (01:33:35):
I'll be right back next on the Black Table with
me Greg Carr.

Speaker 32 (01:33:43):
Our Legal roundtable is back in session as we look
at yet another potential landmark case being considered by the
United States Supreme Court. This one is called Trio three
Creative versus Allnus and may be the most important and
our reaching first Amendment, that is, freedom of speech case
of our tak It could depending on how the court

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rules opened the door for a return of Jim Crow
segregation laws.

Speaker 20 (01:34:10):
It's true if you say we can discriminate against one,
you're saying we can discriminate against.

Speaker 13 (01:34:16):
All that's on the next black tape.

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Thudterfie In Ohio, both sides that rested and the two
many trial of officer Comrad Grubb, charged of the killing
a twenty one year old to kill Young, Grubb did
not testify, but submitted a written statement.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
Prosecutor say he and.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
Another officer confronted Young outside a Kroger over a shoplifting report,
yelling at her to get out of the car.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
When her vehicle.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
Inched forward with a turn signal on grubbed fire the
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Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
And her unborn child.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
Grubb faces up to life in prison of convicted of
murder Judge David Young, a relation dropped for charters tied
to the death of Young's daughter, ruling there was no
evidence Grubb knew she was pregnant. Bloomington, Indiana police arrested
sixteen men in a three day sting operation called Operation
to Creep, targeting adults who try to solicit a seventeen
year old girl for sex. Well, Megan m kelly would

(01:35:24):
call them almost legal. The suspects, mostly from Twin Cities,
includes the federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement auditor and a
Minnesota Pollution Controlled Agency stafford. Here is Bloomington Police Chief
Booker Hodges describing but the ICE employee said.

Speaker 33 (01:35:43):
This one shames. This is a tragedy many respects. But
people at the Department of Homeland Security. I know there
are great people there that come to work every single
day and do their job and do it admirably. Unfortunately, Mster,

(01:36:05):
recently married back here is not one of those people.
He works for ICE and he is an auditor for them,
a civilian employee. When he was arrested, he said, I'm
Ice boys. Well, you know, unfortunately for him, we locked
him up, put him in our jail. He got reappropriated

(01:36:26):
to our jail. And my understanding is he helped send
people to send federal authorities. I think he's going to
see some federal authorities because I think the Feds are
going to take this case.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
I'm Ice boys, Congratulations you're now arrested.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
How is saying these investigations are.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
More challenging now because traffickers use advanced technology and online ads,
and some suspects even brought guns and drugs to their meetups.
A federal judge's question the Judice Department about how is
security charges against form my FBI director James Comy prosecuted
Lindsay Halle, an idiot, acknowledging court the charges currently filed
had not been reviewed by the entire grand jury.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
I told you how she's a dumbass, and they're gonna talk.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
About Thedei Halligan pursued the indictment after the twice in
peach criminal committed fellow in chief Donald the idiot con man,
Trump removed a fireday UITs attorney who allegedly resisted bringing charges.
Komin plaed not guilty the chartists of making false statements
in affection related to this Senate testimony in twenty twenty.
If lawyers say Trump saw charges regardless of the facts,

(01:37:30):
as a means of punishment. Now, Trump's troalis is scheduled
to begin on January fifth.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
I got a feeling it's not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
All right, folks, Let's talk about what's happening in Nigeria.
Donald Trump is now threatening threatening military action in Nigeria.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Now we got Nicki Minaj.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
She's been on social media now speaking at a US
organized United Nations event to call attention to the flight
of Christians in Nigeria, claiming more than seven thousand Christians
have died just this year. She spreads gratitude the Donald
Trump for prioritizing the issue.

Speaker 28 (01:38:07):
In Nigeria, Christians are being targeted, driven from their homes
and killed. Churches have been burned, families have been torn apart,
and entire communities live in fear constantly simply because of.

Speaker 5 (01:38:25):
How they pray.

Speaker 28 (01:38:28):
Sadly, this problem is not only a growing problem in Nigeria,
but also in so many other countries across the world,
and it demands urgent action. And I want to be clear,
protecting Christians in Nigeria is not about taking sides or

(01:38:49):
dividing people. It is about uniting humanity. Nigeria is a
beautiful nation with deep faith traditions and lots of beautiful
arms that I can't wait to see.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
All right, folks about a five minute piece that she gave. Now,
the government there says they reject a claim that genocide
is happening there. While violence in Nigeria has indeclaimed thousands
of lives.

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
It steals from.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Multiple causes that were about to get into right now
with our guests.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
So let's talk to.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
National security and foreign policy expert Osha Casselberry. Her Nana
is glad to have you here, so all right, explain
to people what's going on there. Can Let's just be
real clear, Americas don't give a shit about what's happening
in African countries.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
We don't. So all of a.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Sudden, Nicki Minaj is now talking about this year. The
right wing Maga folks are now applauding her. So really,
what's the cause of this violence in Nigeria and is
it recent or has it been happening for a long time.

Speaker 34 (01:39:53):
Well, it's been happening for quite some time since two
thousand and nine, orchestrated by Bokanam. But what has what
happened is that because this has been such an enduring
problem orchestra of Bocardan, it has created a complex security
environment where it's just not just Christians there being target
it's also Muslims. And it's so perplexed that when you

(01:40:15):
look at the tactical approach here, many of the attacks
are like coming in and saying oh are you Christian. Okay,
I'm gonna attack you for that. No, they just attacking people.
They attack mosque, they attack churches. So it's more perplexed.
And when you look at the optics here, it's it's
too one sided. She needs to be promoting on the
fact that it's a humanitary, humanitarian issue, a humanity issue,

(01:40:40):
and that in terms of interfaith, we need solidarity between
the two countries, not just focused on one one religious community.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
Well, we understand why because you have these right wingers
who claim to be evangelicals of loving Jesus and they
want to say, oh, Christians are being persecuted. This is
also part of Donald Trump's hole em I saying, oh
Christians are being persecuted, but they think christal being persecuted
in the United States.

Speaker 34 (01:41:08):
Yes, and in fact that this is part of his
base where you know, it's driven by the fact that
I have a lot of Christians, in fact, a lot
of them are deeply influential when it comes to galvanizing
the black vote and the Brown volte to justify why
I should why they should support me. So I think
this is something where they want to go global with it.

(01:41:30):
But again they're using the wrong person when it comes
to celebrity diplomacy. The point is it is to shape
global policy, and this is not the right approach. You know,
you got to look at history, like for instance, you
could use someone like a Reverend Jason Jackson who had
a whole bunch of access to foreign leaders and governments
to make a difference.

Speaker 6 (01:41:50):
But here it's not.

Speaker 34 (01:41:51):
All it did was agitate the Nigerian government and it
has no influence here. All it did was pretty much
raise awareness because she had twenty six million and followers,
but it did not make a difference.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
Well, here is the tweet that this idiots sit out
on truth social If the Nigerian government continues to allow
the killing of Christians, the USA will immediately stop all
eight in assistance to Nigeria and may very well go
into that now disgraced country. Guns are blazing to completely
wipe out the Islamic terrorists who are committing these horrible atrocities.

(01:42:26):
I'm hereby instructing our Department of War to prepare for
possible action. If we attack, it will be fast, vicious,
and sweet, just like the terrorist thugs attack our cherished Christians.
Warning the Nigerian government better move fast. He might want
to slow down oursha because let's like check, is it
Nigeria number four in sending oil to America?

Speaker 16 (01:42:49):
Yes?

Speaker 34 (01:42:50):
And also to that's a very catilarish approach, as I said.
I told Newsweek he should not necessarily put defense on
on the table. It should be approached to diplomacy, working
very closely with Nigerian government and also those of leadership
and influence in the area. So approaching it with just

(01:43:10):
with a hammer is not necessarily the right one. But
I think what we're seeing is a pattern here. It's
the same thing what you're seeing as far as the
gunboat diplomacy that's being conducted in Venezuela. We start our
harsh and then we try to get soft over time.
And also just going back to the Nicki Minaj issue,
she does not have influence when it comes to Nigeria

(01:43:33):
nor foreign policy in the United States.

Speaker 6 (01:43:35):
So would you treat you need to treat all these
issues the same way.

Speaker 34 (01:43:39):
Would you bring her to the peace of cords in
each of to resolve the issue in the Gaza crisis?

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:43:45):
Would you bring her to go talk to President Zelenski?

Speaker 16 (01:43:48):
No?

Speaker 34 (01:43:49):
And would you also have her address the issues developed
in Venezuela. No so, I think because it's Nigeria and
there's a level of deep priors here. This is why
we invite people like her to play a part in this.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
Malcolm Nance tweeted response to that idiot post is trump
effing high. Nigeria is the most populated country in Africa,
with two hundred and thirty seven million people. Also, it's
forty five percent of Christian, that's one hundred and sixty
million Christians, he said the golf and has been fighting
a coward a certaincy against Islamic terrorists for decades. Nigerian

(01:44:27):
Muslims murder, kidnap, attacked disproportionately in the north, which is
why we were helping them stop vocal Haram, get this demented.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
Old fool off the adderall and all social media.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
That's right.

Speaker 34 (01:44:39):
So it is important to note that we have spent
again another more than a decade engaging in this specific
issue and working very closely with our African allies as
far as addressing these issues. But unfortunately it requires more
than just a defense approach. That requires diplomacy and using

(01:45:00):
international organizations like the United Nations. The right way not
necessarily just bringing in a hammer to.

Speaker 6 (01:45:07):
Address it and calling it out.

Speaker 34 (01:45:09):
I just think that this is definitely treated differently compared
to the other crises that are happening around the world
because it is Nigeria.

Speaker 2 (01:45:18):
Questions from the pale Na I'm going you first, thank.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
You so much for bringing this context.

Speaker 20 (01:45:25):
I mean, this is certainly not an issue that requires
a celebrity, but someone who really understands the region. Is
there any concern that Trump's threats might be followed through
and through on and this sort of pay about Christian violence,
use this pretext to invade Nigeria and take resources.

Speaker 34 (01:45:49):
Uh, there is some concerns involving your implication. It's very
wild in terms of which way it can go. But
I think what we're seeing is the way they're studying this,
which is probably going to be similar to what you're
seeing in Venezuela as well as the Gaza crisis, where
they feel that, you know, he starts off very partial,

(01:46:10):
only favoring one group, and then eventually he starts to
double down a diplomacy, but rhetoric matters when it comes
to the United States presidency, so it definitely will most
likely exacerbate conditions there in Nigeria where they'll take advantage
of his optics. That's why it's just very unfortunate that
her optics there were one sided.

Speaker 9 (01:46:34):
Well, Corey, So personally, I haven't respected Nicki said she
went on her drug field chirade about Cardi B's children,
But that's neither here nor there. I just I just
want to bring up a few valuable points about how
while we're over here in the West, what we're missing
about a crucial component about the African continent is it's

(01:46:55):
not about religion. Most often it's about tribalism. What we're
seeing in Nigeria is that the Fulanis are actually the
ones that are indiscriminately attacking. So that means they're not
focused on attacking Muslims or Christians specifically Nigeria to set
the context of the fifty percent Muslim fifty percent Christian country, right,
So they're not focused on religion as much as they're

(01:47:16):
focused on getting money.

Speaker 11 (01:47:19):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:47:19):
These are gangs essentially, so they're extorting people for money,
they're kidnapping people indiscriminately, right. But I think to Roland's
point previously, we have to follow the money when we
think about oil, right, when you said resources earlier, when
my previous panelis had resources.

Speaker 7 (01:47:35):
We're talking about oil.

Speaker 9 (01:47:36):
Nigeria just last year opened up the largest single site
refinery in the world with the current capacity of six
hundred and fifty thousand barrels per day under the black
the world's richest black man, Eliko Dono te Right, So
why do you think the United States all of a

(01:47:56):
sudden gives the damn about Nigeria?

Speaker 7 (01:47:58):
That's why?

Speaker 9 (01:47:59):
What about when Trump called Nigeria shit whole country? He
didn't care about Nigeria. Then he doesn't care about Nigeria.
Now it's about following the money. And as long as
we follow the money, we know exactly where Trump is headed.
This is this is rhetoric. Nikki was used as a tool,
and it's unfortunate that she didn't see that that's exactly what.

Speaker 34 (01:48:19):
This was, right, and you could tell that she didn't
necessarily really assess the entire situation in terms of the dynamic,
especially when it comes to energy. I mean energy diplomacy
is a huge part when it comes to US foreign policy. Right,
So when the Ukraine Russia crisis broke out, we were

(01:48:40):
restricting terms of a specific energy market to where the
United States had a run to Venezuela as far as
helping to stabilize oil prices, and it's the same thing
when it comes to Nigeria, right. But what we're seeing
is a level of bullying.

Speaker 6 (01:48:54):
Tactics when it comes to the United States right now, where.

Speaker 34 (01:48:57):
It's yeah, I need you, but I could still bully
you to get what I want.

Speaker 6 (01:49:01):
And it's very risky because this is not how.

Speaker 34 (01:49:03):
You manage your allies and partners in the twenty first
century international system. So I don't think that that's being
taken into account, especially when it comes to Nicki Minaj.

Speaker 6 (01:49:14):
We need someone better that understands.

Speaker 34 (01:49:16):
These issues, has the ability to project power, influence and
be able to engage in this effectively and not what
we just saw just recently.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
Well let's just be clear having Nicko minoage speaking this stuff,
it's just about trying to get viral attention as what
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
Teresa, Yeah, I totally agree.

Speaker 5 (01:49:35):
And you know, I think one of my questions for you,
Atcha is what are the Nigerian people saying about this?
Because this, you know, is an economic issue, right and
I do believe Nicki Minaj was just the wrong source
of this. I think we think she should have been
very educated on this. But what are the what are

(01:49:58):
the people you know and I Jerius saying about what's
going on and how they'll be infantrayed.

Speaker 34 (01:50:04):
Well, apparently they're saying it's insulting to use her as
a way to influence their security environment right now. Again,
as mentioned before, we could have used the interfaith community.
We could have used civil rights leaders and use and
look at examples like Reverend Jesse Jackson or tap into

(01:50:24):
people like you know, Reverend Al Sharpton or Jamal Bryan,
if you want to talk about an interfaith approach, even
the pope. So to be able to put her on
the international stage and promote a message like this, it's
insulting to them and it has no influence, and it
tells you a lot about how.

Speaker 6 (01:50:42):
The United States views African countries.

Speaker 34 (01:50:47):
Just an example prior to this with South Africa, look
how we engaged with their leadership.

Speaker 6 (01:50:52):
In the Oval Office.

Speaker 34 (01:50:53):
So it's further defining how we are approaching this issue.
And to be able to put her on stage as
far as trying to influence it, I don't think they're
not They're not in favor of it at all. And
where is the approach when it comes to the Sudan issue.
They've been pretty limited as far as how they're messaging
on that. So the messaging is not good when it

(01:51:14):
comes to US foreign policy, uh, when involving this continent.

Speaker 6 (01:51:19):
And unfortunately they should have used someone else.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
H It's an excellent point. Asha. We appreciate it. Thanks
for the breakdown. Thank you, all right, folks, going to
a quick break. We come back.

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
We'll talk with Isaac has the third about fan base,
but also AI in music. You're watching rolling by Untilt
you right here in the Blessing Network.

Speaker 13 (01:51:44):
In this country right now?

Speaker 16 (01:51:46):
Do you have people get up in the morning and
the only thing they can think about is how many
people they can hurt and they've got the power.

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That's the time for morning, for.

Speaker 15 (01:51:56):
Better or worse. What makes America special? It's not legal
that's supposed to protect minorities from the tyranny of the majority.

Speaker 17 (01:52:05):
We are at a point of a moral emergency. We
must raise a voice of outrage.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
We must raise a.

Speaker 17 (01:52:13):
Voice of compassion, and we must.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
Raise a voice of unity.

Speaker 18 (01:52:20):
We are not in a crisis of party versus party.
We are in a crisis of civilization. A humans rights
crisis and a crisis of democracy itself. And guess what,
You've been chosen to make sure that those that would destroy,
those that would hate, don't have the final say, and

(01:52:41):
they don't ultimately win.

Speaker 35 (01:52:44):
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Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
All right, folks, everybody he was talking about AI and
music and the music industry has been losing their mind
over this sister who signed this uh three supposedly signed
a three million dollar deal with the record label and
all kind of stuff like that. Uh, And what the
hell is really going on? What are we down dealing with?

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
Joining us right now? Isaac Hage third, he's the CEO
founder of fan Base. Isaac, you posted something earlier today
where you like, who's the person money or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
Uh, this AI singer, So you got to be cracking up.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
Where she's an AI singer, you decided to use the
same AI to take her song and made it sound
like her.

Speaker 36 (01:54:00):
Yeah, with these new AI artists, there is no real
protection against anybody duplicating the voice of the person that
already has created because you're using the AI product, so
it's a combination of all these other artists voices and
you're not doing anything original.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
So you're saying that you AI and I could just
take your AI, create my own AI and make music
and make money.

Speaker 36 (01:54:26):
And copyright and the copyright law says that you can't
even own the masters of the AI that you generate.
You can stream them, you can put them up on
the streaming service, but you don't necessarily own that product
because it's generated and made with AI, so you don't
own it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
So you were dealing with I mean, you've been dealing
with copyright revisions getting it back your dance music. What's
really at play here? Do you think the real play
here music label said, we don't give a damn about
y'all artists. We don't want y'all owning nothing, controlling nothing.
We want to make the money off the music, the
publishing and everything.

Speaker 36 (01:55:02):
I think that it is a play for money because again,
any way that people can find a way to cut
out the middleman or you know, increase profits and what
they're doing, and.

Speaker 13 (01:55:13):
They're gonna do it.

Speaker 36 (01:55:14):
But I don't think it's a good idea because I
think a lot of these companies are over indexing on AI.
I think from the music standpoint, from the content standpoint,
people want to see real things, hear real music, see
real artists, and so yeah, it's always done for greed,
but I think it's gonna come back to bite them
in the behind.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
And I think there's a huge difference.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
I've had some people, uh, you know, look at we
get to get kick King Wloney.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
It's just some great stuff and others as well.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
But as somebody who loves music, I can listen to
some stuff and I can tell what's computer driven that
it has some emotion, but it ain't got that human emotion.

Speaker 18 (01:56:00):
No.

Speaker 36 (01:56:00):
I mean, AI will get better without a data, will
get better as it learns more and more. But that's
the problem. It's being trained off pre existing copyright. So
how do you compensate the people that are the the
guinea pig for the AI model? Like in Zenaiamnase instance,
she sounds a lot like K Michelle. It sounds a
lot like KM Michelle with a little bit of Beyonce

(01:56:22):
in there. So if they're training off K Michelle's music
and beyonces music, especially their voice, their name, image and likeness.
Then there's definitely lawsuits that are going to be filed
because they're legally training the AI off of pre existing artists.

Speaker 1 (01:56:37):
Yeah, you get you give me an AI sing It
sounded like Ritha Franklin. It's gonna be like that, not
the Queen absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:56:46):
All right, Uh so you got that.

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
Uh Let's let's now talk about what we're seeing happen
now in the social media space. You've got look Trump
trying to sell TikTok to his right wingers, the Eloson's
things along those lines. What's been happened with all this
going on? Blue Sky Elon still lying about how great

(01:57:10):
X is.

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
What's been going on with fan base?

Speaker 13 (01:57:14):
Oh man, we've been hard at work.

Speaker 36 (01:57:15):
We actually just started releasing our new AI algorithm, like
a recommendation engine. This is the biggest thing we've built
at the company. This is probably the biggest product we've
built since I founded a company. Because it's an expansive product.
It covers a wide range of behaviors and in depth understanding,
like learning what you watch. It'll help with bringing content

(01:57:39):
to creators. It won't shadow band creators. It'll increase your
views and we just started rolling it out today, So
I'm really excited because we were working on this since July.
The algorithm is key to showing people the type of
content that they're interested in, but that it learns based
off like how long you watch something, if you like it,
if you love it, if you share it, what's in

(01:58:00):
the video. All these things are part of what helped
recommend content and users and the big part of what
social media is right now.

Speaker 13 (01:58:08):
So I'm really really excited.

Speaker 36 (01:58:09):
That's what all this, you know, this capital raise has
been about, is building a better product. And I know
a lot of people are going to be excited because
now their engagement is going to increase exponentially on the
platform and it actually helps train the AI with what
we're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:58:21):
All right, because I'm on the app right now. What
other changes look like? Some of the stuff has been done.

Speaker 36 (01:58:29):
Yeah, we did a U I U X redesign easier
to post content. That's really really important. There's a couple
other announcements. I can kind of let the cat out
of the bag on one of the things tonight we'll
be announcing tomorrow. There's a very with this redesign of
the algorithm. There's a very very popular format of videos

(01:58:52):
that are becoming very very popular, and we're going to
fer into that space come twenty twenty six. And I'm
just gonna say the word microdramas.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
No, seriously.

Speaker 1 (01:59:03):
I got a text message last night from a longtime
friend who's a director producer in Hollywood about wanting to
do a microdrama with me and the Black stud Network.
And I've been reading about it obviously, and so I
was like, Hi, how long, how many parts? I'm just

(01:59:23):
gonna cost.

Speaker 2 (01:59:24):
So for folks who don't know what the hell is microdrama.

Speaker 36 (01:59:27):
So, micro dramas are this huge, huge, huge new format
of vertical video seen on social media. It's very very
popular of China. In fact, the micro drama industry in
China is actually larger than the TV and film industry
over there. About three hundred and fifty million people watch
micro dramas every day. It's about a nine billion dollar

(01:59:48):
industry and it's exploding, and it's also exploding in the
United States of America. But one of the things that
I noticed that is not there are African American microdramas,
diverse micro dramas, latinx Michael dramas, African Michael dramas. And
then on top of that, you actually need a model
of distribution. And I think the great thing about what
we have over at fan Base is we already have

(02:00:08):
vertical video. You unlock the micro dramas with digital currency coins,
which actually equate to exactly what love is. You need
an algorithm and to subscribe to see more and more
micro dramas, you have subscriptions. So fan Base already has that,
We've already started actually developing that we're gonna I'm gonna
talk about who are our partner is that's going to
actually be producing the micro dramas. But I'm really excited

(02:00:30):
because this is something that will be a great benefit
to investors and the platform.

Speaker 13 (02:00:34):
So I'm really excited about that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:36):
All Right, cool questions from the Pand let's see here,
out of the three people, who do I think the
most technically proficient, Neama is like, do now come to
me first?

Speaker 3 (02:00:49):
Like I'm not the most technologically proficient.

Speaker 14 (02:00:51):
I can tell you that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:52):
Now I want to make you make it. Ask the
first question, then.

Speaker 3 (02:00:57):
What do you tell us?

Speaker 20 (02:00:59):
Well, I'm old a younger gen xer and us older
millennials about you know how to get into this space
because sometimes it does feel like it is for young
people and can be overwhelming because there is so much
happening and it seems all the time.

Speaker 3 (02:01:16):
So where do you advise?

Speaker 36 (02:01:18):
We start with micharodrama, just social media in general, just just.

Speaker 20 (02:01:24):
This sort of tech space, because I mean microdramas. That's
a first I've heard of that term today. So I
mean just any of it because it feels like it's
ever evolving and changing. Something news to learn.

Speaker 2 (02:01:35):
So why I did this year?

Speaker 1 (02:01:36):
I'll augment this be a friendly amendment to them this question.
What we're now seeing. We're now seeing with social media
the ability to do subscriptions, to generate revenue, to be
able to really become your own to really become even
blow up more content creators, to a much more of
a content creator.

Speaker 2 (02:01:58):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
How are you solving that with fan base to make
it easier for someone like Niambi as a point of
entry is does that work?

Speaker 2 (02:02:07):
MBI?

Speaker 3 (02:02:08):
That works?

Speaker 2 (02:02:09):
How's it going? Well?

Speaker 13 (02:02:11):
Well, we're changing.

Speaker 36 (02:02:12):
We've been changing the narrative, which is every single person
has the ability to be their own channel.

Speaker 13 (02:02:18):
Right like right now on social media.

Speaker 36 (02:02:20):
If you social media is the new television when you
think about it, eighty five percent of people consume their
news on vertical videos online. So people are looking towards
their phone more than they're looking towards their television, right,
And so for someone that's starting out, you have to
get into that space and start posting content and building community.
And then on top of that the ability to monetize

(02:02:41):
that community through subscription, which fan Base has in that
purchase peer to peer subscription, so you can subscribe to
a user using Apple pay and Google Pay. We were
the first to do that, and it makes it simple
and seamless. Everybody on fan Base has that ability. It
doesn't require anything, it doesn't cost anything. The app is free,
and we've been singing to work on that along with
other things, you know, this year.

Speaker 2 (02:03:02):
So let me I'll add a part too.

Speaker 1 (02:03:04):
So essentially, Niambi, what Isaac is saying is, you're political
science professor.

Speaker 2 (02:03:10):
If you decide that, hey.

Speaker 1 (02:03:13):
I want to start a daily three times a week,
two three minute school house rock two point zero, let
me explain to y'all politics. You have the ability to
now do the sit in front of your camera, press
record or go live, do that explain, try to explain

(02:03:35):
politics and a very simple easy way to folk and
then boom build your following.

Speaker 2 (02:03:41):
And then now if.

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
You decide to do a virtual book signing or whatever
tie to your book, you build your audience up to
be able to do that. So the sort of problem
for a lot of people is that how do you
take your expertise and now channel it so you win?

Speaker 2 (02:04:00):
Coney.

Speaker 1 (02:04:00):
Here you are, you're trying to your next and you're
trying to reach if you want to reach younger folks.

Speaker 2 (02:04:06):
Same thing.

Speaker 1 (02:04:07):
Now you can use social media in a way where
you're not waiting to get booked on somebody's show. You
are in es is creating your own show every single
day by driving social media that leads me right to
win Coney.

Speaker 7 (02:04:23):
I love that. I love the idea that Isaac.

Speaker 9 (02:04:26):
I guess my question is for you is when when
I start looking into micro dramas, I learned that the
budgets are usually quite small compared.

Speaker 7 (02:04:33):
To what an actual drama would cost.

Speaker 9 (02:04:35):
Right, so a micro budget for a budget for microdramas
one hundred to three hundred thousand.

Speaker 7 (02:04:39):
My question is with fan base, is is it.

Speaker 9 (02:04:42):
A crowd funding type like platform where people could raise
that one hundred to three hundred thousand dollars or is
it behind a paywall and they would actually have to
pay to view the content once it is produced.

Speaker 1 (02:04:55):
So let me let me before Isaac answers that, I'll
also say this here to your point there, go if
anybody who's watching, go look up a guy named country Wayne.
Country Wayne made these videos with this.

Speaker 2 (02:05:17):
Blew is following up.

Speaker 1 (02:05:18):
He posted something the other day where he did in
twenty eight days on Facebook nine hundred and eighteen million reviews,
something like a billion a billion of views in one month.
He's dropping, he said, he's dropping what twenty thirty forty
videos is? He also bringing other people in. So the

(02:05:40):
point I'm making there, you can actually create content that
and they were shooting with a phone, vertical, no editing.
I sent him a text. He was like, when we
ain't sitting here using a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:05:55):
One camera going person to person.

Speaker 1 (02:05:57):
So it actually it doesn't require even a massive capital raise.
And if you really want to go back further, go
back to when Easter Ray when she started, when they
were doing doing those shows on YouTube, it was a
bunch of people who didn't have jobs, who were like,
when you're in lighting and I'm a camera, I'm gonna
sit any other and they pull their talent to create

(02:06:19):
through the content as it go.

Speaker 36 (02:06:21):
Well, well, let me say this, the microdrama market is
exploding here in the United States of America. But my
concern is what happens, which is what always happens, is
that they'll get into the space and then African Americans
will be used to boost up the micro drama industry.
But who actually owns the platforms that produce the micro dramas.

(02:06:42):
Who actually owns those platforms, and so fan Base is
just a distributor. We're not the producers of micro dramas,
but we are going to start to distribute micro dramas
in twenty twenty six, which is important because the other
microdrama apps that are out there right now have a
retention problem because once you watch the microdrama, is really
nothing left for you to do there. And so for us,
you actually have both worlds where you can go back

(02:07:04):
to looking at regular vertical video or any of the
other features that are available on fan Base. But when
I tell you, if anybody researches, if you google micro
dramas right now, see how Kim Kardashian you know all
the Hollywood execs. They're creating all these microdrama companies and
apps and they're gonna flood the space. But the problem
is that there is no distribution model for that, and

(02:07:26):
so fan Base is going to serve as a distribution
model to allow microdramas to be shown to a wide
variety of audiences. When it comes to financing, that's done outside.
Those are the deals that are done outside separate. But
I want to make sure that fan Base is a
place where people felt, especially people of color, have an
opportunity to produce microdramas and get them visible because there

(02:07:47):
are none. If you look online, there are no black microdramas.
But believe me, they're coming one dred percent.

Speaker 1 (02:07:52):
Well, I'll just say this on that point. Really is
what fan Base does. It serves as as the distribution vehicle.
You can have a piece of content you want to
be able to be somewhere where you can access as
many people as possible. The problem when you look at
Instagram and these other platforms is look I've got. If

(02:08:14):
I look at it right now, I've got a corner Instagram.
I've got eight hundred and seventy four thousand followers. The
reality is I'm not actually reaching when I post a
piece of content on Instagram, I am not reaching eight
hundred and seventy four thousand people.

Speaker 2 (02:08:33):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (02:08:33):
So what they're doing is they are throttling your following
enough to.

Speaker 2 (02:08:37):
Recess to go so a tests. I appreciate it, thanks
on today's show, Thanks a lot. You're not reaching that,
And so what you're saying with the.

Speaker 1 (02:08:44):
Algorithm you're just talking about there, Isaac, is that if
you've got eighty five thousand, one hundred thousand thousand on
a fan base, you're gonna be able to reach.

Speaker 2 (02:08:52):
Your one hundred thousand.

Speaker 36 (02:08:54):
Yes, your content will be visible by all of your following,
and then on top of that, you'll be you recommended
to users that are interested in your content. See on Instagram,
you only you know your condent is only recommended to
people that are interested in your content. Your following does
not automatically get central content like so you have. So
your eight hundred thousand followers on Instagram do not automatically

(02:09:15):
get your content. On fan base, you're following automatically gets
your content as well. So it's a good mix because
it's based on advertising, and so advertising is not our
initial agenda.

Speaker 13 (02:09:26):
Our initial agenda is.

Speaker 36 (02:09:28):
To actually create a space where creators and users are
the ones that monetize and reap the benefits. And then
it's a repshare model. So if we if you make
money as a as a creator in any way on
the platform, then we make money. So it keeps us
in a position of always putting the creator first. That's
really the most important part.

Speaker 1 (02:09:46):
And there you go. All right, Isaac, where you on
the raise?

Speaker 36 (02:09:55):
The raise is closing, so let me just tell you
all that right now, the problem for fan Base is
closing December eighteenth. This is the last chance to invest
in fan Base at this evaluation.

Speaker 13 (02:10:07):
We've been working hard the last year.

Speaker 36 (02:10:09):
Anybody that wants to invest, I employ you to go
to start engine dot com slash fan base right now
and investor at about thirteen point five I think, actually, no.

Speaker 2 (02:10:19):
Nope, you said you got the video. Thirteen point six.

Speaker 36 (02:10:22):
Yeah, we're at thirteen point yeah, thirteen point six million.
The raise closes at seventeen million dollars, so it's roughly,
you know, thirty five hundred people investing in the platform
and we're actually rolling. I hope to see you there,
but we're doing our Investor Dinner, our investor Holiday dinner
here in Atlanta December fifth, So those people that have been.

Speaker 1 (02:10:43):
I will not be there because that day is actually
the seventieth anniversary. That week we're going to be I'm
I'm in Atlanta December first to third of Global Hope Form.
Give me go to Montgomery the fourth and the fifth
because that's the seventh anniversary Montgomery Bus boycott.

Speaker 2 (02:11:01):
So that December.

Speaker 1 (02:11:02):
Fifth is when they had the mass meeting that kicked
off the Montgomery bus boycott. So we'll be broadcasting live
from Montgomery on December fifth.

Speaker 36 (02:11:13):
All right, well, I'll make sure I catch it with
you a couple of days before in Atlanta. But everybody else,
this is my message to you guys. We have to
own these apps. You see what's going on with TikTok.
You see what's going on Instagram. They're getting acquired by
Larry Ellison and Trump and all these other people.

Speaker 13 (02:11:27):
And so this is it for us.

Speaker 36 (02:11:28):
This is our opportunity to actually have equity and platforms
that we can use and own simultaneously. And we are
at a real, real watershed moment in our community where
we have to get information with Roland saying what everybody
else is saying online everybody's talking about.

Speaker 13 (02:11:42):
But we have to own these platforms. So the minimum to.

Speaker 36 (02:11:45):
Invest in fan base is three hundred ninety nine dollars.
Go to start engine dot com slash fan Base and invest.
It gets you sixty shares in the company. And we
want to close this raised with a bang. There is
also remember we have this blackout coming in during the
holiday season for Black Friday to sign Monday. We're not
spending any money there and so and thus for your children,
your grandchildren, yourself, make this a Christmas gift. Put that

(02:12:06):
money somewhere else other than the regular places in these
companies that don't care about you. It's something that you
can own and help build yourself. So I'm promoting investing
very very hard during this blackout season, and investing in fan.

Speaker 13 (02:12:18):
Base is one of those things to do.

Speaker 36 (02:12:19):
But do it before December eighteenth, because once the race closes,
you won't be able to invest.

Speaker 1 (02:12:25):
All right again. Stark engine dot Com forward slash fan based.
Start engine dot Com Forward slash fan Base ISAI.

Speaker 2 (02:12:32):
I appreciate it, thanks a lot, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:12:34):
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