FBI’s Patel & Booker Clash, Trump’s Memphis National Guard Move, Fashion With Purpose

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey, folks.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Today is Tuesday, September sixteenth, twenty twenty five. Coming up,
Butcher streaming live of the Black Star Network. I am
here in Rhode Island for the Jeffrey Osborne Celebrity Golf Classic.
Be hearing from Jeffrey a little bit later in tonight's show.
On Today's show, folks man, we got lots to talk about.
More black pastors speak truth to power for the pulpit

(00:33):
regarding white nationalism and the murder of Charlie Kirk will
show you Reverend Doctor Frederick Douglass, Haines, the Third, Bishop
William Barber and others. Also on today's show, Explosion explosive
testimony on Capitol Hill as f God director Cash Mattel,
who's grossly unqualified.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Goes at it with Senator Corey Booker as well as
Senator Adam Schiff.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Folks, it was absolutely bonkers video for you as well.
Plus hangings. Two people found hung in Mississippi, one of
them a Delta State University student. What the hell is
going on?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
We'll have that story for you as well.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Also, we got lots to talk about on the issue
of Donald Trump signing it Membo send in the National
Guard to Memphis Plus and tonight's Blackstart Network Marketplace segment
will highlight fashion with a purpose, so lots to break
down and what happens when Chris Tucker and Johnny Gill

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finished playing around the golf and then just decide to
swing by the sound check here.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
At the Jeffyallisborne Celebrity Golf Classic.

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with the duet of my mind. It's time to bring
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Speaker 5 (02:00):
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to believes he's right on top and is rollan best
believe he's going putting it out from his Boston news
to politics with entertainment just bookcakes.

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He's rolling, rowing up.

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Speaker 7 (02:33):
Good question, No, he's rolling Monte.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Folks is a love Look at the Quidness It Country
Club here in North Kingstown, Rhode Island. This is where
the Jeffrey Olsbourne Celebrity Golf Classic took place today. We've
been here for the last couple of days. And so
it's been fantastic. We're going to be hearing from Jeffrey himself,
Jo a little bit later, Chris Tucker, Johnny Gill as well,

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and we've show y'all these two foods. As we played
a practice round yesterday, we decided the band was playing.
You can actually hear them are right now and Jeffrey,
but sorry, Johnny and Chris, we all came in as
you were doing sound check and they were actually playing
in my mind. So these two actually to do it, y'all.
It's absolutely hilarious. And wait do we show you lots

(03:39):
more here as well. We're going to have for you
next couple of days as well as we here for
the Jeffy Olls Borne Celebrity Golf Classic.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
All right, folks, let's get into it. Talk about what's
happening on Capitol Hill. It was crazy pandemonium.

Speaker 8 (03:51):
As vetteran to cash.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
MATEL went before the Senate and man, he got into it. Everybody,
whether it was Centator Adam shiff but he really got
into it. Was Senator Corey Booker Man who was Battle Royale.

Speaker 8 (04:03):
Check out what happened, mister Pattel.

Speaker 9 (04:07):
In just eight months, you have assaulted the institutional integrity
of the FBI. But I know FBI field agents. I've
worked with them in Newark. No matter how truly bad
you are, you can't undermine the legacy of agents who
fight every day to keep us safe. But you can
tarnish the integrity of the agency and under mind the
agency's capacity. I believe you failing as a leader, and

(04:31):
your failure does have serious implications for the safety and
security of Americans in our families. We're more vulnerable to
domestic and foreign attack because of your failures of leadership.
I don't think you're fitting them the bureau. But here's
the thing, mister Patel, I think you're not going to
be around long. I think this might be your last
oversight hearing because as much as you supplicate yourself to

(04:52):
the will of Donald Trump and not the constitution of
the United States of America, Donald Trump has shown us
in his first term and in this term, he is
not loyal to.

Speaker 8 (05:01):
People like you.

Speaker 10 (05:03):
He will cut you loose.

Speaker 9 (05:05):
This may be the last time I have a hearing
with you, because I don't think you're long for your job.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
But I'm going to tell you this. I pray for you.

Speaker 9 (05:14):
I pray for you that you can step up and
defend your oath, defend the constitution, and do a much
better job of defending this country.

Speaker 8 (05:23):
Thank you, Miss Chairman.

Speaker 11 (05:26):
I want to say that rant of false information does
not bring this country together. If you want to work
on bringing this country, it's my time, not yours.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
My god, my god.

Speaker 10 (05:40):
If you want to.

Speaker 9 (05:41):
Talk about biding this country, it is follow you on
your social media posts that.

Speaker 8 (05:50):
You ever try all you country for what you're committee Sir.

Speaker 9 (05:59):
You don't tell me my time is over, You'll tell
me what my time is. You can't lecture me, can
tell her time may the target?

Speaker 12 (06:08):
And I am mysteried if mister Chairman not afraid of you,
mister Chairman, point.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Of order, Senator Booker.

Speaker 13 (06:15):
I announced at the beginning of this meeting that this
back and forth talking over each other doesn't work, and
I said, if that happened, I asked Patel not to respond,
and I was going to give him some time after
the Senator's time was up to respond, and that's he
has the privilege to do that uninterrupted.

Speaker 8 (06:35):
Mister Chairman.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
One point, go ahead, mystery. I've watched him talk.

Speaker 9 (06:38):
Over us, and you've never once criticized him for us
not even be able.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
To get our questions out.

Speaker 14 (06:43):
Well, he has been rooted disrespectful to senator after senator,
and when the senators were not giving him a chance
to answer, I didn't stop the senator either.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Go ahead, sir, thank you, mister Chairman.

Speaker 11 (06:57):
If the FBI under my seven month leadership or failing
this administration to this country, why do we have twenty
three thousand violent felons arrested this year alone? A twenty
two hundred excuse me, a double increase from that time
last year. Why is it that we have seeded six
thousand weapons? Why have we found fifteen hundred child predators
and arrest them? Why have we have three hundred human

(07:18):
traffickers in jail?

Speaker 10 (07:19):
Why have we.

Speaker 11 (07:19):
Found and identified forty seven hundred children. Why have we
seen sixteen hundred kilograms of fensanol enough to kill a
third of the American public? A twenty five percent increase
alone from last year. Eighty eight thousand kilograms of cocaine
seas seventy hundred kilograms of meths sees. And that's just
on our criminal operations in summer heat. How is it
possible that we are taking eight kilograms off the streets

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of the cities in New Jersey and preventing the deaths
of six hundred and seven thousand people this year alone,
a failure of the FBI and my leadership. How is
it that we have counterintelligence arrest already this year exceeding
the numbers.

Speaker 15 (07:54):
From the entirety of last year.

Speaker 11 (07:55):
Thirty three percent increase in PRC, eighty three percent in Russia,
sixty percent in the CI space that relates to Ron,
and we haven't talked about CT the southern border of
the northern border.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Well, not only Senator Cory Booker, he got into it
with Senator Adam Schiff as well, calling him a coward.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
It was a whole bunch of back and forth going on.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Cash Bttel got some report saying that Republicans are not
happy at all with his performance in the wake of
the murder of Charlie Kirk. Was getting to it with
our panel joining us tonight got the Mastapha Santiago I Leave,
former Senior Advisor for Environmental.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Justice at the EPA of d C. Doctor Larry J.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Walker, Associate Professor, University of Central Florida out of Orlando.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Glad to have both of y'all here will stop.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
He is what you have when these folks testify they
are representing or are really talking to an audience of one,
and that is Donald Trump. He wants to see people
spar with the senators. He wants to see people going
back back and forth shouting at them. And these people
don't have any respect for Congress.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
They don't care. They know full will that they work
for somebody.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Who has who is uncouth, who has no values, principles, ethics, morals,
or integrity, and so they are free to show their ass.

Speaker 15 (09:20):
They are.

Speaker 16 (09:21):
You know, it's a shame that that is the paradigm
that we're operating from, because the three branches of the
government need to be able to work together.

Speaker 15 (09:29):
They need to be able to respect each other.

Speaker 16 (09:31):
They may not always agree, but you know, that's the
way our democracy is supposed to operate.

Speaker 15 (09:38):
And you've got this dynamic going on right now.

Speaker 16 (09:40):
I mean, the FBI has a you know, a responsibility
around protecting the American people, around enforcing federal laws and
national security, terrorism, cyber crimes, civil rights. They have a
responsibility in that space also and organized crime, and we
just don't see them showing up in the way that
the America people need them to. So we've got this

(10:03):
dynamic right now where instead of folks actually doing the
difficult work, and they do do difficult work when it's
done properly, we've just got, you know, these folks who
unfortunately just want to you know, play and not be
serious about the particular sets and needs that are going
on across our country.

Speaker 15 (10:21):
And unfortunately, you know, the message comes from the top.
So you're going to.

Speaker 16 (10:25):
See secretaries, You're going to see administrators, You're going to
see these other leaders in these federal agencies, whether on
the enforcement side or on the civil side, who unfortunately
just don't show up in a way that represents the
offices that they come from.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I talked about will be back and forth with Center
Adams Shift.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
So let's roll that. Want the American people to believe that.

Speaker 8 (10:54):
Do you think they're stupid? No?

Speaker 11 (10:56):
I think the American people believe the truth that I'm
not in the weed on the everyday movements.

Speaker 12 (11:01):
In what I am doing is protecting this country, providing
historic refloors, and batting the weaponization of intelligence.

Speaker 8 (11:10):
By the likes of Europe.

Speaker 12 (11:12):
And we have twerlessly proven you to be a lawyer
in Russia Gate in January. You are the biggest brought
to ever since the United States Senate.

Speaker 8 (11:21):
A disgrace to this time and an utter calm. I'm
not surprised. I'm not surprised. You continue to lie from.

Speaker 12 (11:30):
Your person and put on a show so you can
go raise money for your charoe. You are political buffoon
at best.

Speaker 8 (11:38):
Well you can take take.

Speaker 12 (11:41):
It to the bank that the FBI is protected the country,
troll state and citicide California historic report void of order.
But all you care about is a child sex predator
that was prosecuted by a prior administration and the Obama
Justice Department and the Biden US This department did squad

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And what did President Trump do? Bring new charges courageously?

Speaker 1 (12:06):
And what have we done?

Speaker 12 (12:07):
Term say, I'm the most transparent FBI director in history,
thirty three thousand pages of information to you. I challenge
you to say anything credibly to the truth.

Speaker 8 (12:17):
Go ahead and run to the cameras where you want
to go.

Speaker 17 (12:19):
Now, you be quiet.

Speaker 18 (12:22):
Before I go to Senator tell Us without objection, I
want to introduce into the record the Durham NX. The
Durham ANX is a declassified appendix to John Durham's report
about Crossfire Hurricane. The Durham NX contains information exposing a

(12:45):
reported Clinton campaign plan to fal sipply President to falsely
tie President Trump to Russia. For years, I fought to
assemble and publicize all the facts.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Here howld Cash buttail treated Center Adam Shift and clearly
the chair that committee, Chuck Grastley, wasn't doing his damn job,
but he sure was trying to admonish a center.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Corey Booker, M Larry, Larry.

Speaker 19 (13:25):
You know Roland, I've never seen anything, can you hear me? Yeah, yeah, yep,
we got you like this. I've never seen anything like
this in my career watching no hearings in the House
and Senate side. This is like uh, you know, reality TV,
and not in a good way. And listen, I've never
heard anyone, anyone testifying speak to a US senator like that.

(13:46):
And Rowland for folks watching, it's only he's you know, senatorship,
it's only one of one hundred.

Speaker 17 (13:52):
So the fact that he had the audacity to speak.

Speaker 19 (13:55):
To him like he's the kind of terminology he used
in the open hearing. Like I said, it's not like
anything I've seen and the other thing rolling for like
people were watching, there was a lot of misinformation come
out of his mouth about all these statistics. He said
something about saving over six hundred thousand lives in New Jersey.

Speaker 17 (14:12):
I'm not sure how the administration comes up.

Speaker 19 (14:14):
With these stats, as anyone could tell you knows anything
about simple math.

Speaker 17 (14:17):
It just does not add up.

Speaker 19 (14:20):
So in addition to that, some of the other numbers
he put out their rates to the Board of Things,
those none know if that's Homeland security numbers, that there's
numbers from the FBI. There's no clarification about where those
numbers came from. So it's, like I said, it was
a lot of information. Certainly, like I said, like a
lot of reality bad reality television. And you know, as

(14:40):
Senator Booker said, you know, but tell may not last
very long considering we know how the Trump administration likes
to get rid of people we think aren't fighting hard numps.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Sometimes well, again, it goes to show you what kind
of person we have leading the FBI, and it goes
to show you the kind of idiot that actually pointed
him to lead the FBI.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
All right, folks, got to go to break.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
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got some HBCU news. You've got a couple of hangings,
folks fall on hung in Mississippi, including an HBCU student.
Will also show you more black pastors speaking from the
pulpit regarding the murder of Charlie Kirk and the rise
in white Christian nationalism.

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Speaker 1 (16:53):
All right, folks, welcome back to the show.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Uh the twice in Peach, crimly connected fellow the Chief,
Donald Trump has signed an order calling for the National
Guard to be deployed to Memphis. He's been talking about
this for quite some time. He's gotten the participation, if
you will, from the Governor of Tennessee, Bill Lee, and

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so we're going to be speaking speaking about this in
addition to that that particular action. Of course, we just
represented justin Pearson the other day, and I was watching
several videos people were talking about this here, and of
course Republicans are touting this. But this is the latest
disregard of norms of norms that we are seeing. We're

(17:37):
seeing the exact same thing when you look at the
drastic cuts that they are taking, where Donald Trump thinks
that he can just decide whatever Congress appropriates. But he says, oh,
we're not going to sit here and pay this out.
You see that going on as well, and we'll stop
for this.

Speaker 8 (17:52):
This is a fundamental.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Issue here and I think we have to address the
people need to understand you have three brands of government.
And so again we have the schoolhouse rock in this country.
But the reality is there are three branches of government.
You have legislative, judicial, and executive. And what Donald Trump
is doing he is trying to He's trying to corral
all the power himself and put it together. And so

(18:15):
this National Guard order, that's an example of it. The
budget cuts an example of it. Uh, the firing of workers.
He tried to try to find Lisa Cook. An appeals
court said sorry, you can't do that. Now they're trying
to appeal that to the Supreme Court.

Speaker 24 (18:31):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
And so there's so many examples where these folks literally
are trying to do whatever they want. Then you got
people like Senator John Fetterman who who says, oh no,
this is not being an autocrat, this is of elections.
And I'm like, dude, I mean, look, we want to
be a republic, you just go ahead and be one.

Speaker 8 (18:47):
But it's crazy and people need to understand.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
That if they're trying to usurp the authority on a
federal level from the legislative and judicial. Listen, they're saying
the same thing on the state level. So they're going
to be going into cities trying to do whatever they
want to do because you've got a thug sitting in
the Oval office.

Speaker 16 (19:08):
Yeah, I mean, we're just in this crazy moment right now, right,
So they continue to create trauma every place that they go,
every set of action that they do, and folks are
supposed to just take it. They also continue to not
dismantle not just the norms, but the way that government
is supposed to actually operate. Now Congress of course is
not doing their job. They have the ability to actually

(19:31):
stop a lot of this foolishness. And they also have
a responsibility around the budget and how dollars flow. And
that's the interesting thing is because you know, over these
past administrations, we'll always hear about you know, being financially
astute and making sure that we're utilizing those dollars in
the proper way and make sure they're balances that.

Speaker 15 (19:51):
Are inside of how that moves.

Speaker 16 (19:53):
But when you look at the amount of money that's
actually being utilized in this moment, taxpayer dollars. We've got
a hundred tw million dollars so far that was dedicated
to the National Guard in Los Angeles, and then when
you look at DC, it's one hundred and thirty four
million dollars, and the numbers contain a climb. So how
much more are we going to spend the taxpayer dollars

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in Memphis and a number of these other locations that
are a part of his executive orders and moving the
National Guard into these spaces. The other part of the
equation is that, you know, the National Guard usually does
a couple of things. If there's significant civil unrest, they
get engaged, or these natural disasters.

Speaker 15 (20:31):
We know we're in the middle of hurricane season. We
know we've got wildfires.

Speaker 16 (20:34):
Going on, We've got all these different types of things
where tax dollars and the members of the Guard are needed.
But instead we've got them all over the country standing
around on corners picking up trash and being a part
of this false narrative. And I don't fault the men
and women who are part of the National Guard, but
we all know that even in Memphis that crime has

(20:55):
been going down.

Speaker 15 (20:56):
So you could better utilize the dollars by action, you.

Speaker 16 (21:00):
Know, investing in those strategies that people have put in
place on the local level to actually address what's going on.
But that would mean that you have to actually honor
the leadership that's happening in the cities and then those counties.
So we just got this dynamic going on, and people
should actually be speaking out. These are your tax dollars

(21:21):
that they are utilizing, and they're getting very little result.
Most people have a cost benefit analysis who come out
of business, and he got a whole bunch of business
supposed business people in his administration, but it just doesn't
add up for the amount of money that's going in
and what they're getting on the backside.

Speaker 15 (21:37):
So you know, we got to raise our voices and
we got to hold people accountable.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
He is a perfect example. I've talked about just this.
I can do whatever I want to do. Okay, So
the Trump folks are now they're going to be redirecting
some five hundred million dollars.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
To HBCUs last week.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Then now they're cutting or just refusing to distribute than
fifty million dollars to majority institutions with significant minority student population.
And the Trump people say, oh, this is unconstitutional. Now
here's the problem with this, Larry. They don't get just

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decided what's unconstitutional. The judicial branch decides what's unconstitutional, and
so I would hope that now, look, that's great that
they're trying to First of all, they trying to cover
their asses by sending the money the HBCUs as well
as a tribal collegist.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
But the reality is, listen.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
You just can't declare what's unconstitutional yourself. That's judicial, and
that's what they're doing. They are deciding on their own.
They would they consider it be constitutional and unconstitutional, and
I frankly hope that one of these institutions who gets
screwed by cutting up these grass soothes them because Congress
clearly didn't think it was unconstitutional when they locate of

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the money.

Speaker 19 (23:04):
You know, Roland is really troubling to see what Congress
has not done in terms of when you talked about
three branches of government, the framers of the Constitution a way.

Speaker 17 (23:12):
To design it. It has to be a perfect balance.

Speaker 19 (23:16):
And if members of Congress refuse to do their job,
their response were allocating money and control of the purse strings.
But as it relates to the president using the resources
in any way possible, you talked about the money funding
and cut from minority serving institutions, and then a couple
of days later said I'm going.

Speaker 17 (23:33):
To give it hbc US. You can do both.

Speaker 19 (23:35):
You know, HBCUs and other MSIs have had, you know,
extraordinary support over the last several decades, so you can
dramatically increase funding for both on all those institutions. You
don't have to cut one Rob Peter to pay Paul.

Speaker 17 (23:47):
That's not how this works.

Speaker 19 (23:49):
In addition to that, is Mustappa highlighted the administration is.

Speaker 17 (23:52):
Spending an enormous amount of money.

Speaker 19 (23:54):
Is the relation to National Guard And one of the
things I don't think we're talking about enough is a
relation to National Guardsman Roland. Is that these individuals have jobs,
they have families, their caretakers, and some of them are
in school full time and part time. And so essentially
what's happening is they have to drop everything there you know,
in DC, and then we're talking about Memphis and who
knows what others other states and cities and locales, and

(24:15):
it's disrupting their lives and disrupting the lives of their families.
But also, once again we know as it relates to
crime and any jurisdiction throughout the United States, whether it
is Bourban rule, suburban you solve crime by focusing on
mental health resources, education, job programs, and making sure young
people have an outlet in the evenings on weekends, and
we're not seeing it from the administration in otherwise, in

(24:37):
other ways. You know, this is not going to work.
It's just going to cause more disruption and it eventually
cause violence in these communities.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Absolutely, But again, when you have somebody who does what
he does and who thinks that he can do whatever
he wants to do.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
That's what you're seeing.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Let's talk about what's happening in Congress Republicans. Are there
Democrats to block a stop gap funding bill that will
keep the government running. If they don't, the government will
actually shut down by October first. Now, the bill would
fund agencies at current levels, with a few exceptions, including
an additional eighty eight million dollars to enhance security for lawmakers,

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members of the Supreme Court, and the executive branch. Democratic
leader how King Jeffries said that the House Republicans are
Republican only. Spending bill does not addressed the needs of
the American people, and there's nothing to prevent the impending
healthcare crisis.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Emphasize that Democrats.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Will continue to oppose Republicans on President the attack on
the health care of the American people.

Speaker 25 (25:40):
Their health public House and Set and Democrats have been
very clear that we will support a bipartisan spending agreement
that meets the needs of the American people in terms
of their health, public safety, and economic well being, meaning

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legislation that makes life better for everyday Americans as opposed
to continuing to make life more expensive for the American people.
House Democrats have been clear that we will not support
a partisan Republican spending bill that continues to gut the

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health care of the American people. That's not a clean
continuing resolution, it's a dirty spending bill.

Speaker 8 (26:37):
And one that is unacceptable.

Speaker 25 (26:41):
This country is in the midst of a Republican assault
on the healthcare of the American people. Republicans have ended
Medicaid as we know it. Millions of people have lost
or will lose access to their health care coverage. We

(27:02):
confront a possible cut to Medicare of five hundred and
thirty six billion dollars all across the country. As a
result of the Republican assault on healthcare, Hospitals, nursing homes,
and community based health clinics are closing millions of Americans

(27:25):
face the likelihood of dramatic increases in their healthcare premiums,
co pays, and deductibles. Republicans have launched an unprecedented assault
on medical research, including research for children with cancer, in
addition to attacks on the centers for disease control, vaccine availability,

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and the public health infrastructure that has existed in the
United States of America in order to keep the American
people safe.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
And healthy.

Speaker 25 (28:11):
Republicans have launched an unprecedented assault on the healthcare of
the American people that is unconscionable and immoral. And it's
our responsibility here in Washington to make sure that we
aggressively push back against it.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Well, and here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
If they are not going to accede to what Democrats
want to do, Larry, then what should happen is Democrats
will say, fine, y'all pass it on.

Speaker 8 (28:46):
Your own, and we're not going to help you.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I mean again, I just believe that if you're going
to be Democrats, you've got to be the opposition party.
You have to be the opposition party, which means you.

Speaker 19 (28:58):
Oppose and rowand you know the troubling thing, and you know,
a minority leader and Jeffery's talk about this.

Speaker 17 (29:08):
There's a healthcare.

Speaker 19 (29:09):
Cliff coming over the next year year and a half
Americas are not prepared for. We know there's a lot
of conversation with the CRS related to ACA subsidies. But
the other thing is when we're looking at what's happening
at HHS with you know, Secretary Kennedy as it relates
to vac imanizations, vaccine issues, and all this stuff is
going to come to a head over the next year

(29:30):
year and a half. Folks who won't have access to physicians,
they won't be able to get the treatment they need. If
they want to get vaccines, they may not be able
to afford it. And then we find ourselves in another situation.
We get hit with another you know, disease of virus
our pandemic like we just saw a couple of years ago.
We're going to be in very serious trouble because they've
dismantled the healthcare system.

Speaker 17 (29:52):
And we look Roland.

Speaker 19 (29:53):
We're seeing inflation is going up over the last couple
of months and we're only eight months into this administration.
Over the next couple of months, in several years, inflation
based on tariffs and some of the other issues that
we're dealing with. Unemployment is going to continue to skyrocket,
and so folks are talking about that. You know, things
are fine from the Republican side, but the reality is
a lot of Americans to see food go up, food

(30:14):
prices go up, and then we're going to see a
lot of more of troubling issues.

Speaker 17 (30:18):
Over the next couple of months.

Speaker 19 (30:19):
And if we don't do something right now, particularly the
Democrats and staying steap fast against this and saying no,
and if you pass the bill, pass the bill on
your own, you have the numbers, then once again you're
just pretty much rubber stamping anything they want to do.
And once again, these healthcare issues are monumental and going
to cause serious problems in the United States.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
And we also know what they're doing Mustapa, They are
wrecking the environment. They really don't care about any of that.
And so Democrats again have to I mean, at the
end of the day, on the House side, all you
can do is op pose. And I will be very clear,
I'm not helping you do a damn thing.

Speaker 10 (31:00):
You know what, I.

Speaker 16 (31:01):
Agree with you, you know, and I once threw a
number of government shutdowns over the years. You know this
government is broken, and maybe we need a reset because
when we take a look at, as you mentioned, on
the environmental side of the equation, they're saying it's okay
for the American people and especially vulnerable communities to breathe
dirtier air and drink dirtier water. So you don't have

(31:22):
to just think about Flynn or Jackson. You'll be seeing
these types of things happening across the country. The government
is broken because our energy crisis that is currently going on,
because you people are paying more and more to be
able to cool their homes or to keep the lights on,
and it is because of the neglect there in Congress
and of course coming from the White House of folks

(31:44):
not really being serious about what needs to happen in
that space. Larry talked about also about healthcare. You know,
I see clinic after clinic, especially rural clinics that continue
to shut down. I have conversations with both black farmers
and white farmers who are struggling and or losing their farms.
So the government once again continues to fail. We can

(32:06):
look across the board. You go into the grocery store
and these prices are just becoming mind blowing and once
again it is because the government continues to fail and
is not serious and they're getting, of course, the message
from the White House that these are not priority issues
when it comes to actually doing the work, not standing
in front of.

Speaker 15 (32:25):
A camera and talking about it, but.

Speaker 16 (32:27):
Actually getting behind closed doors and making sure that the
legislation that is necessary is being introduced and then pushed
through so that a president could actually sign it. But
they're not worried about everyday people. So if the government
is not going to do its job, then maybe it
needs to shut down for a while and then folks
can get serious about the work that the American people

(32:50):
are asking them to do, because folks are tired of
writing checks to the government and getting nothing in return,
but less and less.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Absolutely all right, folks, going to a quick break, we
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Speaker 2 (36:01):
It was quite a disturbing story out of Mississippi where
two people have been found on the first tragedy unfolded
at Delta State University in Cleveland, Mississippi. Around seven am,
Captainist police discovered the body of twenty one year old
student de Montrevion trade Red hanging from a tree near.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
The pick A Ball Courts.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
A few hours later, in Vicksburg, authorities found thirty six
year old Corey Zuchadis, who was homeless, dead in a
wooded area near the Ameerostar Casino. Police say Red's death
appears to be a suicide. The circumstances of Zuccatis's death
remain under investigation.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
You know, when these things happened.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Mustafa, obviously, people get very concerned. We understand the history
of lynching in this country. We also understand that a
lot of people are concerned that it's often, you know,
very quick of local authorities to rush to that particular issue. Unfortunately,
you don't have a federal Department of Justice that has

(37:04):
any credibility when it comes to an issue of race,
especially the Civil Rights Division.

Speaker 16 (37:11):
Right, And it's a shame because so many folks, you know,
put so much energy into actually making sure that that
division had what it needed.

Speaker 15 (37:19):
If you look at the last.

Speaker 16 (37:20):
Administration, you know, not perfect, but they definitely were better
than we had seen in quite a while.

Speaker 15 (37:26):
And when you look at these types of.

Speaker 16 (37:27):
Cases you do on the local level, folks always want
to go automatically to suicide.

Speaker 15 (37:32):
And I'm not saying that that's.

Speaker 16 (37:33):
Not the case, but let's make sure that there's a
real investigation what's going on. Because if somebody wants to
kill themselves, if someone wants to take their life, there
are all kinds of other ways to be able to
do that. To be able to whether it's to climb
up a tree or to make sure that there's a
noose around whatever it is, and to be able to
take your life, you know that that takes a lot.

(37:55):
So we need to be very clear about that. We
need to also understand that when we're talking about lynching,
the thousands and thousands and thousands of black lives, the
confirmed ones that were killed through lynching, we know the
history that exists there we also understand that Mississippi was
number one in those confirmed lynching So Billy Holliday when

(38:16):
she sang Strange Fruit, there was a reason why she
brought that song forward and why you know it was
our number one song because it actually touched people at
their core and it continues to reverberate even today. So
we need to make sure that there is a real
honest investigation, and we need to understand those dynamics that
took place, and if it wasn't suicide, we need to

(38:38):
make sure that the right people are brought forward and
that they're prosecuted. But that would mean that you got
to have folks who actually care and who are going
to do the right thing.

Speaker 19 (38:49):
Larry, Yeah, So we know that state officials are investigating.
First of all, I want to send my condoleances to
mister Wing's family. The other thing is Mustafa and you
talk about the Office of Civil Rights Roland during the bullok,
I mean by the administration. We talked about Kristin Kark
and the great work that you know she did for
over you know, over the several years, and they've dismantled

(39:12):
the Office of Civil Rights in a dj and the
Department of education. So there if this, you know, federal
officials need to come in and investigate a we know
that's not happening, by they don't have the resources to
really properly investigate. Thirdly, do they even want to investigate.
The other thing is we you know, we talk about Mississippi,
certainly the South, and you know various other parts of

(39:32):
the country that had there's a very disturbing link between hangings,
brutal murders of black people and certain states and jurisdictions.
And so I would love to see the Department of
Justice go and investigate to make sure what these pulneminary
findings we're seeing based on the autopsy are accurate. The
other thing we have to keep in mind is a

(39:53):
long history of black people being killed. Autopsies, pulnmary autopsies,
and final autopsies suggested they were killed one way, and
then we find an independent autopsy or the federal government
comes in, we find it something else happened that there
wasn't included in the overall school you know, support that
police have written or in terms of what they found

(40:14):
on autopsy. So, once again, Roland, it would ease my
mind if federal officials could come and investigate, but as
the four things four reasons why identified, we can't trust
or expect that at all.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
And of course it was supposed to be Delta State
homecoming and all centennial celebrations have been canceled as well
as counsels have been made available for students, faculty, and
employees to actually deal with the grief that they are experiencing.
So we'll certainly keep up with the details on this

(40:48):
particular story as well, because it is one that again
a lot of folks are paying attention to. Let's go
to Georgia, But Georgia Supreme Court has declined to hear
Fulton County DA Fanny Willis's appeal regarding her removal from
the state's election in the ferious case against Donald Trump.
Georgia Court of Appeals ruled that Willis in her office

(41:09):
must be removed due to her romantic relationship, especially Prosecutor
Nathan Wade, whom she appointed to lead the case. Of course,
Trump praise ruling as a great decision of reiterating that
Willison's prosecution of him and others for attempting to overturn
georgia twenty twenty election results is a rig case from
the start, well not true. Willis expressed her disagreement with

(41:31):
the decision, but stated she would transfer the case files
and evidence to the Prosecuting Attorney's Council of Georgia so
that the replacement prosecutor.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Can be appointed.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Even if this takes place, it seems unlikely that Trump
himself can face prosecution now that now that he is
sitting in the Oval office. However, fourteen other defendants remain
charged in the case, including former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
You know what, and I've said from day one, Larry,
and I've had people hit me in upset and I said,
I'm sorry this Fannie will It screwed this.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Up, Okay, bottomb line is she should have known.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Listen, when you have a case like this, everybody it's
gonna be paying attention.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
All eyes are going to be on it.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
And you go to your team and you say, hey,
if y'all have anything in your closet, any problems, anything,
let me know right now so we can you're not
going to be on this case. Well, she sits here
and is involved with Nathan Wade, and so she screwed
this up. This is on her, and so this is
not about and I heard some people they be trying

(42:32):
to say, well, you know what, I think it's being
a little too hard. No, you have to know you
can't screw up. And this was a major screw up.
And as a result of this, it delayed. This case
could have been prosecuted before the election.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
We're not for this screw up.

Speaker 19 (42:52):
Yeah, Roland, you hit it right on the nose. You
have to cross your t's and dot all your eyes
when you're when you're getting in bed with vipers. And
if you don't, then and you have skeletons in your closet,
they will get exposed. And this is because the problem
is is the role and this hasn't really become about
what really is in terms of trying to you know,
steal as many votes.

Speaker 17 (43:12):
As possible overturn the election.

Speaker 19 (43:14):
This becomes about you know, a relation, you know, a
relationship and fees, conspiracy theories about people trying to bring
down the current president and that as you highlighted that
it's just not the case.

Speaker 17 (43:27):
And listen, you know, I know, you know, you know
she's elected official. You have to do better.

Speaker 19 (43:32):
We've all worked and talked to politicians and understand that
once again, if you're black, that if you want, if
you had anything anything that you don't want to know
anyone to know about, and you are prosecuting a high
you know, high profile figure, that information is going to
come out. They're going to try to smear you because
that's how things work. And so this case is Da Roland.

(43:53):
We'll never hear about this case again. And you're right,
if this is done a little differently, this could a
case could have been already you know, went to trial
and had a verdict. But once again, this is another
one of the many mistakes historically when we look back,
that people have made that led to the rise of
what we currently see with the current regime.

Speaker 15 (44:14):
Lustapha, I mean, Larry hit it on the head.

Speaker 16 (44:18):
You know, we often say when you know better, do better.
You just got to take the l on this one.
You cannot make these types of mistakes. Even if it
wasn't a high profile case, you still shouldn't make these
types of mistakes. You have a responsibility and a duty
to the office that you hold to make sure that
you're doing the right things. So you know, lesson learned.

(44:41):
Larry's right.

Speaker 15 (44:41):
This you know will probably not be brought back up
and you just got to move forward.

Speaker 16 (44:47):
But I hope that you know, for young attorneys, folks
who are in law school, who you know, they can
review this case, that they'll learn lessons and hopefully they
will make sure that they don't make these same mistakes
as they move throughout their career, because you have a
responsibility to the people who put you in these offices.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
So one of the things that I'm also paying attention to,
UH and and looking at and there, and there are
a number of UH, there are number of stories that
of course, UH, of course we're dealing with UH. And
one of the things that that UH jumps out at me,
and we're gonna deal with this whole issue of Christian

(45:31):
nationalism and in the second hour, UH and black pastors
talking about UH speaking about Charlie Kirk from the pulpit.

Speaker 28 (45:41):
UH.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
But but but one.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Thing that that really I find to be interesting here
UH is that the docsing and the targeting of people
who are critics. And you've got folks who are now saying,
turn the point you say, it's going to be suing
people who have made light of it.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
But first of all, you can't.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Sue someone for defamation because the law is clear, Larry,
when the person's passed away, you can't defame them. But
what the real issue here though, is really it's threatening
people and trying to silence them while they're also trying
to say that Charlie Kirk was about the First Amendment.
And so it's really interesting as I'm seeing this because again,

(46:21):
so this is a couple of posts just came out
about this very issue that really jumped out at me,
and I was just kind of like, you're putting people's
information out and telling people to call the employer.

Speaker 8 (46:35):
I mean literally, Larry.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yesterday J d Vance even said to people call someone's
employee if you disagree with what they tweet.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
That's crazy.

Speaker 19 (46:46):
So you know, I love, you know, as a research
I love looking at US history and Roland. This is
modern day McCarthyism, you know, you know, all we see,
we see the hearings today, some of the other hearings,
these the red lists you know of individuals and that
you know, couldn't you know, not only in terms of
travel offside of the United States. That's a whole other conversation,

(47:09):
but essentially we're blacklisted from jobs, opportunities, actors, actors, etc.

Speaker 17 (47:13):
We can go on.

Speaker 19 (47:14):
So the other thing that is troubling about all this
is that we when I mentioned McCarthyism, is we don't
seem to learn from our past mistakes. We repeat them
over and over again. And that's what we're seeing right now.
So it's interesting enough. You know, people talk about, you know,
certain political affiliations that it was that freedom of speech
is critically important, particularly when it was hay speech. Now

(47:36):
you can't even read quote what someone says without it
being a problem, and that is not democracy, and it
doesn't it's not protecting the right to free speech. So
either you believe in the ability for people to express
themselves fairly without threatening people, or you don't. You can't
have it both ways. And so we talk about the

(47:58):
rise of authoritarianism limiting individuals democratic rights.

Speaker 17 (48:02):
That includes you know, people making.

Speaker 19 (48:05):
Sure they're pressuring individuals not to say anything about anybody
and regardless if you agree with you don't, or agree
if you don't. Let's also highlight rolling for years that
black people have continuously watched people say racist things and
we've been told that we just kind of have to
accept it. It's and it's connected to the freedom of speech.
But if we offer a simple critique, like I said,

(48:27):
repeating someone's words, then we find ourselves in front of
a friaring squad and that is not democracy.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
We'll talk more.

Speaker 8 (48:35):
About that in our second hour.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Coming up next, we're.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Going to discuss the deployment of the National Guard to Memphis.
In our second hour, we'll talk about white Christian nationalism
also here from black pastors speaking from the pulpit regarding
Charlie Kirk and white Christian nationalism. Our marketplace segment will
have that, plus we'll talk We'll show you Chris Tucker
and Johnny guille doing a duet of My Mama. Here

(48:58):
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Speaker 8 (50:41):
Folks.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Donald Trump is deploying an action reguard to Memphis over
the objections of people there.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
In Memphis testing ze.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Governor Bill Lee gave his approval of that, angering folks
in Memphis. This is just one of the crazy things
that you have. Now flank my wife with no representers
from Memphis. Twice in Peach crimly collection fellon in chief
down to the con Trump sabed the memorandum to deploy

(51:09):
US National Guard troop into Tennessee. He says, restore law
and order. Decision comes a month after you the same
thing in Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Here's this idiot talking.

Speaker 34 (51:20):
At the request of Governor Bill Lee of Tennessee, who's
standing with us. As you know, I'm signing a presidential
memorandum to establish the Memphis Safe.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Task for use.

Speaker 35 (51:32):
And it's very important because of the crime that's going on,
not only in Memphis, in many cities. Who are going
to take care of all of them a step by step,
just like we did in DC. We have virtually no
crime in DC right now in twenty twenty four. Memphis
at the highest violent crime rate, the highest property crime rate,
and the third highest murder rate of any city in

(51:54):
the nation.

Speaker 15 (51:55):
Other than that, they're doing quite well.

Speaker 35 (51:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 34 (51:58):
A person is four times more are likely to be
murdered in Memphis, Tennessee today than in Mexico City.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
It's been and you.

Speaker 8 (52:05):
Know, Mexico City is not a cakewalk.

Speaker 34 (52:08):
It's been overrun with Carl Jakins robbery, shootings and killings.
There were two hundred and forty nine murders, four hundred
and twenty nine reps, five thousand, six hundred and sixteen burglaries,
and twelve thousand, five hundred and twenty two violent assaults
in just the last little while in twenty twenty four

(52:30):
and in pieces of twenty twenty five, where it's actually
gotten worse until recently when we said the FBI down
to see what the hell is going on?

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Well, join me right now down Tonio Parkers at stay
representative representing memph is also Memphis City Council Member JB.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Smiley Junior. Let to have both of you here.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I'll start with you, Representive park Its in So does
the government just go what the hell? I don't have
to talk to anybody from Memphis. I don't have to
inform them. I just can do whatever I want pretty.

Speaker 8 (53:07):
Much, you know.

Speaker 36 (53:08):
And you know the difference between Memphis and you know, uh,
Chicago or Illinois rather and in California is that we
have a Republican governor and that republican governor is in
lockstep with President Trump, and President Trump saw a way
to you know, get this thing moving or I call

(53:31):
it the serve get this moving in Memphis because there
is no resistence from the governor of the state.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Of What is crazy to me, Councilman, is that, you know,
Republicans love talking about local control. I love talking about
big government, big government overreach. But it seems that that's

(54:00):
only the case when they controlled local government.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Absolutely.

Speaker 37 (54:06):
I think when you look at communities like Memphis, local
control doesn't apply because they do not believe that predominantly
black communities can govern themselves. But if you look at
the statistics, the statistics will show you that crime in
our city has gone down. I just believe that the
stats don't the stacks or the facts don't find a

(54:27):
way to make it the truth social he doesn't care
about what's happening in the city of Memphis. This is
campaigning as opposed to trying to find a way to
put people in a better position.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
So Mayor Paul Young, we reached out to him again.
They say he was not available tonight. We're going to
keep trying to get him on the show. Said that
he is going to cooperate with.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Them, but.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Should he And when you say cooperate, what does it
actually mean?

Speaker 8 (55:01):
Yeah, you know, I think is that for me? Roland? Yeah,
go ahead, okay, okay, you know, I think.

Speaker 36 (55:09):
It's important that there is a line of communication that
is open and you know between the mayor and the governor.
You know when you think about all of the resources
that they are sitting, because you know, it is every
department under this purview, every department under the governor's purview,
and then there's the net.

Speaker 8 (55:30):
And so so you look at a really really.

Speaker 36 (55:33):
Large contis of us that are coming into the city. Now, uh,
you know, the mayor could choose of you know, not
having any community with them and not being at the
table with them and that lead whatever it is that
they want, or he can choose the land to you know,
keep a line of communication, you know, going with the

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governor so that he.

Speaker 8 (55:57):
Can have input, you know, and you know.

Speaker 36 (56:00):
What they do and how they do it and how
these these our positions, Roland, if I may I just
take a completely different position.

Speaker 38 (56:09):
I don't believe that we should.

Speaker 37 (56:11):
Be necessarily attempted to cooperate with the administration who does
not cooperate with us. If you look at the press
comforts that the gentleman who occupies the White House said had.
There was no one from the community of Memphis. There
was no one who looked like us. Matter of fact,
I just got through knocking doors in the city of
Memphis today.

Speaker 38 (56:28):
What the people of Memphis want us to do? They
want us to have backbone.

Speaker 37 (56:31):
It's time for our leaders to stop trying to go
to places that don't want us.

Speaker 38 (56:35):
It's time for us to stand up for the people
who elected us. They want us to fight back.

Speaker 37 (56:39):
In this council, it's poised and ready to fight back.

Speaker 38 (56:42):
Stay tuned.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
So and that's so okay, So stay rap's question. Okay,
since the governor all of a sudden now cares about Memphis,
are y'all preparing to put before him a massive request?
Wait a minute, so, And to be honest, what I
would do is I would say, all right, this is
what the National Guard costs in DC, and so this

(57:08):
is what the National Guard is going to cost in Memphis.
We want to see that amount of money.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Come back to Memphis.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
And when it comes to crime prevention and the things
necessary to also reduce crime.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
And then let's see what he then says.

Speaker 36 (57:22):
You know, it's interesting, So let me let me make
sure we're clear on this I'm not the mayors polk person. However,
these conversations that are exactly what you're saying. As a
matter of fact, rolling are conversations that are that are
taking place. But those conversations cannot take place if there
is no line of communication.

Speaker 8 (57:40):
One of the things that we have to think about.

Speaker 36 (57:42):
Right, there's an opportunity here for the mayor to get
an inventory.

Speaker 8 (57:48):
Of the individuals that they are sending to Memphis.

Speaker 36 (57:50):
But those specialties that these National Guard members hold, right,
those specialties can be used.

Speaker 8 (57:57):
In the places where there are shortcoming. City of Memphis.

Speaker 36 (58:01):
Give you an example, military police officers. I'm prior military.
The military police officers on the base guard at the
gates we have. We are short when it comes to
individuals working in our jails, and some of the things
that are having to take place in jails is because
they're short staffed.

Speaker 8 (58:19):
Right, There's an opportunity there.

Speaker 36 (58:21):
Administrative position, they are administrative position Memphis. They can use
those administrative positions in the police department where they are
up officers to be out there on the streets to help,
you know. So there's opportunity here, and nobody saying, let
me be clear about this, nobody.

Speaker 8 (58:39):
Said, hey, we want the National Guard. Sentimentalis neither the mayor.

Speaker 36 (58:43):
Said that, nor anybody else that I know.

Speaker 39 (58:45):
That's what it is.

Speaker 36 (58:47):
However, if it is outside of your purview, your power,
and the governor has by law the power to do that,
then it is better to have someone at the table
and so you can protect people as much as possible,
then not.

Speaker 8 (59:04):
It just makes logical.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Oh, I absolutely, absolutely, I absolutely agree with that accountsman.
What I'm saying is is is anyone in Memphis responding
to the governor by saying, Okay, you have made the
decision to do this, here is our request. If you
say you care about crime, here's our three, four or

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five hundred million dollar crime invention plan.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Is that happening?

Speaker 37 (59:36):
Well, I just think it's you know, dis honest to
tell people we're.

Speaker 8 (59:42):
At the table.

Speaker 38 (59:42):
We are not at the table.

Speaker 37 (59:45):
We were in this situation last year when we talked
about how to reduce crime in the city of Memphis.
The people of Memphis that they want gun reform. The
city Council had to fight to stay to have put
a gun referendum on the ballot. And when we attempted
to do that, guess what the state. They told us,
they told us they're going to take money from us.
They're not concerned with providing resources. They're concerned with the actress,

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They're concerned with the general lobby.

Speaker 38 (01:00:09):
They're not concerned with the lives of the people of Memphis.

Speaker 37 (01:00:11):
And yes, we've consistently at the state for more resources.

Speaker 38 (01:00:15):
But guess what happens.

Speaker 37 (01:00:16):
They give us the bare minimal because they do not
care about the people of nine on one.

Speaker 38 (01:00:20):
So the people of nine oh one have to stand
up for themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Okay, okay, okay, all right, So now I'm confused.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
I need to be clear here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
It's Memphis at the table or not? And if Memphis
is at the table, corner to U State Rep.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Who's at the table?

Speaker 36 (01:00:41):
The mayor of Memphis has an open line of communication
with the governor of the state of Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Gotcha.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
But here's my question though, that's the mayor, But your
state rep.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
You've got council.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Members, they also have constituents, and so our other elected
officials in Memphis.

Speaker 8 (01:01:02):
Are they also saying to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
The governor, you need to be meeting with us, You
need to be meeting with our constituents, as opposed to
only the mayor.

Speaker 36 (01:01:13):
You know, there are many people that have lines of
communication with governor, not just myself, but Leader krry Kemper,
Senator Ramesh Akberry. There are many of us that have
lines of communication with the governor. It's not just a
man I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Got it, I got it, I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Okay, I got it, Yes, okay, I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
So there are lies, but here I set them to
know if there are lines of communication, who is presenting
the governor with a comprehensive, multi million dollar plan and
how much is that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Is that being done?

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Because of the governor saying, oh I care about crime,
we all know policing is not how you solve crime.
You saw crime with crime, prevention, with resources, with jobs,
with houses, and so what I'm asking is that has
that plan been presented and how much is it and
who's driving That's what I want to know.

Speaker 8 (01:02:08):
Is that question for me because I'm asked.

Speaker 36 (01:02:11):
Several members, Yeah, I want to put a US State
Rep in the council.

Speaker 8 (01:02:14):
Member, Okay.

Speaker 36 (01:02:16):
Several individuals that are an elected position have said it's
what you're talking about and have said it publicly, and
so that information is definitely the mayor has said it. Also,
I have said it also, and there are other individuals.

Speaker 8 (01:02:31):
That are being the same thing. Oh yes, your question.
What I think is happening the counseling how much, go ahead,
go ahead?

Speaker 37 (01:02:41):
Happening is we're confusing a line of communication with someone
actually taking heed to what we're saying.

Speaker 17 (01:02:47):
As a people, I can.

Speaker 37 (01:02:49):
Call someone every single day, doesn't mean they're going to
hear me. Our question as a community is if we
present this this robust plan that says, hey, we need
we need a vestment in education, we need investment in infrastructure.
Matter of fact, we need more jobs so that we
can lift people about a poverty at good paying jobs.
No one is sending more resources to our community. This,

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this administration, this, this current presidential administration has.

Speaker 38 (01:03:15):
Forgotten about the people of Memphis.

Speaker 37 (01:03:17):
I don't believe no matter what the elected officials who
have round the communications with the governor or with the
president will get us more resources. We've been asking for
more resources for a very long time. We've been asking
them to pave elvis president for long time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Questions from my pallets move stop for you first, hold
one second, Hold.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
On one second, stay wrapped.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Go ahead, make your comment that I'm going to go
to question with my two PANELTS go ahead.

Speaker 36 (01:03:49):
You know, and you know I see it and I
hear and I vote for the state budget every single
year for the last almost sixteen years, and there has
been and I'm not here to defend the governor or
anybody else. We fight for everything that we try to
get up there from the state of Tennessee to go
into Memphis. And there are millions of dollars that are

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in the state budget that are allocated to the city
of Memphis and Shelby County.

Speaker 8 (01:04:18):
This I know for a fact.

Speaker 36 (01:04:19):
And in the last budget, if I'm not mistaken, or
the budget prior, we put millions of dollars that would
go directly to the hardest or the most violent nine
zip codes in the city of Memphis, and that went
to the city.

Speaker 8 (01:04:39):
Truly.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Okay, we'll stop up.

Speaker 16 (01:04:44):
Yeah, Well, thank you both for being here. I think
maybe you could give some clarification because when Trump shared
why he was sending folks there to Memphis, he said
that crime had not gone down year. I've seen various
stories and statistics that have said that there was a decline.

(01:05:05):
Since you are there on the ground, could you share
clarification for folks who are watching the show.

Speaker 15 (01:05:11):
Maybe we'll start with the state Rep.

Speaker 8 (01:05:13):
Okay, yeah, okay, thank you. So here's how the crime
numbers are calculated.

Speaker 36 (01:05:20):
When the information is input into the system through Memphis
Police Department, it goes to the FBI, It goes directly
to the FBI. The FBI then spits out those numbers.
The biggest or the peak of the crime numbers, the
violent crime numbers in Memphis came from the last administration.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
This year.

Speaker 36 (01:05:45):
I mean in twenty four and twenty five, those numbers
started coming down. And those are the numbers that mayor
young and I'm sure the councilman agrees with that are
the numbers right.

Speaker 8 (01:05:58):
Now, Larry.

Speaker 19 (01:06:09):
Yeah, gentlemen, thank you for coming on this show. And
so my question is, so we signed the order, so
National Guard is coming to the city. My question is, gentlemen,
is what what are you doing to make sure residents
are informed in terms of protecting their rights. Obviously, you know,
Memphis is a city, so you have some folks who
are undocumented.

Speaker 17 (01:06:30):
But in addition to those individuals, we know.

Speaker 19 (01:06:33):
That you know, there are a lot of black folks
who are concerned about what's going to what's coming in
the next couple of days. So what is it you
doing in terms of working with nonprofit organizations, maybe the
naacp ACLU, churches, synagogue, so, you know, whatever, other organizations
in terms of making sure that particularly black folks know
what their rights are.

Speaker 17 (01:06:51):
If they encounter someone from the Guard.

Speaker 37 (01:06:53):
Absolutely, So on Thursday, the Memphis City Council will a
couple of members of the Memphis City Council have a
rest conference coupled with some of those nonprofits that you mentioned,
whether you're talking about Memphis for All, whether you're talking
about Micah, whether you're talking about just good folks in
the community who understand the rights. We're going to talk
about our opposition to the National Guard coming, but we're

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gonna allow those organizations where you talk about Memphis Earthly
to explain to the people of mephis their rights in
terms of what they need to do to protect themselves
and make sure they're keeping themselves safe during this time.
We're doing everything we can to get the information out
and look forward to information being shared by some of
those non profits at the press comforts we're going to
have on Thursday.

Speaker 8 (01:07:37):
Yeah, Hey, I'm glad. I'm gonna get you a.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Head fans with novel. Go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 8 (01:07:43):
I'm sorry, yeah, thank you, sir.

Speaker 36 (01:07:45):
I'm glad you asked a question, because you know, we
as a state representative, I have two statutory duties. One
is to pass the budget of the state and the
other one that's to pass laws with the stated But
I have two other duties that are not statutory in nature,
and one is to educate the constituency. Educate our people, right,
and the other constituent service. But let's talk about the

(01:08:07):
education piece. I think this is the most important thing
that we can deliver now as elected elected leaders. But
I just I literally just got off of doing a
live video and walking all of the people that were
on their live video through each line of the executive

(01:08:28):
order that the President signed and put into effect, making
sure that they understood what the scope of this thing was,
what they were trying to, what these people are trying to,
who they're trying to send in and and and what
effect it's going to have on us. And so in
that executive order, it laid out everything from every department

(01:08:51):
under the purview of the President, in conjunction with every
department under the purview of the governor, and with local
leadership and local departments, along with the National Guard and ICE,
and I thought it was incredibly important that our people

(01:09:12):
know what they are to expect so they can move
and navigate accordingly to be able to make sure that
they keep their family safe and make sure that they keep.

Speaker 8 (01:09:23):
Their children safe.

Speaker 36 (01:09:25):
And our black males, young black males, and our young
black females.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
All right, gentlemen, I surely appreciate it. We'll be staying
on top of what happens there in members. Thanks a lot,
and look forward to having a Mayor Paul Young on
the show.

Speaker 8 (01:09:40):
Thank you, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Folks going to great we come back.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Black Pastures speak out regarding Charlie Kirk and white nationalism
and also an expert on white Christian nationalism.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Also lays out some bare facts.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
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Speaker 8 (01:11:14):
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Speaker 21 (01:11:15):
This is Doug E Freshman watching my brother Roland Martin
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Speaker 8 (01:11:26):
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Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
We're seeing a dramatic discussion increase of white Christian nationalism,
and author Melissa Dalton Bradford is explaining. She explains in
the social media posts how Christian nationalism is making a
comeback here in the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
This is what she had to say.

Speaker 24 (01:11:59):
Hello, my dear friends, Let's talk about something that is
personal to me, that is urgent to me, that I've
posted on a number of times, but I can't post
on it enough. History is repeating itself right in front
of us. As a follower of Jesus Christ. You know
I'm a woman of faith. I don't make any efforts
to hide that I'm watching the rise of Christian nationalism
in America and it is terrifying. And if you think, well,
that could never really go wrong, spend two minutes with me,

(01:12:22):
and let's look honestly at what happened in Germany before
World War Two. I'm coming to you from Germany. I've
studied this so deeply. In the nineteen thirties, many German
Christians surrendered their faith wholesale to the rising power of
Autolf Hitler, whom they eventually worshiped the Nazis wanted to
fuse Christianity with nationalist, racist, and authoritarian ideas.

Speaker 17 (01:12:44):
So what did they do.

Speaker 24 (01:12:45):
They created something called the reich Kirche or the Church
of the Empire, a so called Christian church that put
this state and of course it's leader, above the gospel.
And the tragedy also was that many church leaders, who
were hungry for power and security, they embraced it wholesale.
They twisted scripture to justify racism and anti Semitism and violence.

(01:13:10):
Loving your neighbor fell off the commandments first, it was forgotten.

Speaker 17 (01:13:14):
Instead, loyalty to.

Speaker 24 (01:13:15):
Nation and leader became the new leading commandment. And what
also happen is that most Christians then went along. Obviously
their priests and their pastors were leading the way, and
genuine faith was replaced by political dogma. The cross was
decorated in a flag, and Jesus was reduced to some

(01:13:35):
sort of a mascot for the empire. And that is
exactly what Christian nationalism is doing today in my home
country in the US. It demands Christians put America first,
their political leader first, and it says that true faith
means loyalty to one party and one leader. No matter
the cost to Jesus's actual teachings. So we see Christian

(01:13:59):
symbols that are used and Christian language that is used
to push policies of exclusion and even violence. We see
truth bent to fit propaganda. We see a movement that
thinks it alone defines what Christianity is and who belongs
in God's family, and who even belongs in the nation.
Now I know what comes when the church becomes an

(01:14:20):
arm of the state. The lesson of the reich Kirsche
of Germany, where I have lived for many, many years,
is clear. Whenever faith bows down to political power, it
corrupts both the church and the country. It happened here
in Germany, it can happen anywhere, including yes, the United
States of America. And it's our sacred duty to resist,

(01:14:44):
to follow Jesus, not Caesar, to love the least of these,
not to chase earthly power. Christians out there, don't be fooled.
History is yelling a warning. The question is if you'll listen,
and I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Folks.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
A lot of black pastors have been speaking about this
rise in white conservative Christian nationalism UH In the past
week Sundays, several of them talked about uh in the
aftermath of the shooting death of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Also UH, you know, in terms of what's happening in
d C with the occupation there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
So you're about to hear from Reverend doctor Frederick Douglas Hayes,
the third All Soldist Prayer Doctor Haynes, my alpha brother,
being announced on Sunday he's taking a medical league of absence,
having surgery for an undisclosed illness. And so also we'll
be here from Michael Waldron Junior, First Corinthian Baptist Church
in New York City, Reginald Sharp, Junior, Senior Pastor of

(01:15:41):
Fellowship Missionary Baptist Church in Chicago. And also we'll be
hearing from William Lamar, pastor of Metropolitan African African Methodist
Biscocal Church, talking about doing ministry under occupation. He talked
about this a couple of weeks ago. So let's hear
from these brothers.

Speaker 40 (01:16:00):
We live in a nation where twisted, toxic theology is
poisoning the politics of this nation. Have you thought about
the fact that this week in Utah, a white Christian
got killed by a white Christians and then the next

(01:16:20):
day HBCUs were under threat.

Speaker 10 (01:16:25):
Now, how did we get in it?

Speaker 40 (01:16:33):
I mean that, Oh that's called white on white crime.
You came the wrong Sunday if you thought you, I'm sorry,
I see y'all. Y'all are real sophisticated, and you look
really good.

Speaker 10 (01:16:50):
I hope they warned you about me.

Speaker 40 (01:16:51):
Okay, because on this Sunday, we're gonna keep it one hundred.
On this Sunday, were gonna tell the whole truth and
nothing but the truth.

Speaker 10 (01:17:00):
And so here they are, here, they are in Utah.

Speaker 41 (01:17:07):
It's more of.

Speaker 40 (01:17:08):
Us in church than in Utah.

Speaker 10 (01:17:14):
We ain't got nothing.

Speaker 40 (01:17:16):
To do with what they just did. A white Christian
gets killed, murder, not assassinated. We're gonna tell the whole
truth today. Martin King got assassinated, Malcolm X got assassinated,

(01:17:37):
met Garrex got assassinated. Don't compare Kirk to King. Ain't
no such comparison. Now, let me hasten to say, let
me hasten to say, I'm anti political violence. Kirk should
still be alive. I don't agree with the time, with

(01:17:58):
anything Kirk says.

Speaker 10 (01:18:00):
What Kirk said was dangerous.

Speaker 40 (01:18:03):
What Kirk said was racist, rooted in white supremacy, nasty
and hate. Field but he still should be alive. He
still should be playing with this kids. He should still
should be experiencing the love with this wife. He still
should be experiencing life as he saw it. I don't

(01:18:25):
want anybody, please hear me, well, anybody to be victimized
by political violence when I'm gonna keep it a buck.

Speaker 10 (01:18:33):
Because one of the things it gets me. And we
got some.

Speaker 40 (01:18:35):
Politicians in here, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna come.

Speaker 10 (01:18:38):
For you if you ever.

Speaker 40 (01:18:39):
Say this, If you ever say America we better than this,
you lying, lying, We ain't.

Speaker 10 (01:18:51):
Better than this.

Speaker 40 (01:18:52):
America was born in political violence. America committed political violence
during the sle trade. America committed political violence when black
bodies fung as strange fruit in on southern trees. America
committed political violence against the Irish, against the Italians before

(01:19:15):
they became white. American America committed political violence when America
passed Jim and Jane Crow Laws. What do you think
political violence was? Political violence? When they bombed and massacred
Black Wall Street, when the massacred Rosewood, when the massacred

(01:19:35):
whites and blacks in Wilmington, North Carolina. But what do
you think political violence is Martin being killed.

Speaker 10 (01:19:44):
That's political violence.

Speaker 40 (01:19:46):
Jean Kennedy being killed, political violence, Robert Kennedy being killed,
political violence.

Speaker 10 (01:19:53):
And you gonna say we better than this.

Speaker 40 (01:19:55):
No, you can't fix what you won't face until you
look in the mirror and say, this is a violent
country that has done violence to too many people. We
will never get our act together.

Speaker 10 (01:20:10):
It's time to repent.

Speaker 40 (01:20:12):
Because if my people called by my name umble themselves
in play, turn from their wicked ways, Nana, will I
hear from heaven forgive.

Speaker 10 (01:20:23):
Their sin and heal the land. So now we're better
than this? No we ain't.

Speaker 40 (01:20:37):
We ain't better than this. We ain't better than this.
But to get better, you got to acknowledge what's wrong.

Speaker 42 (01:20:46):
Anyone who sets himself up as religious by talking a
good game is self deceived. This kind of religion is
hot air, and only hot air. Real religion, the kind
that passes muster before God, the Father, is this reach
out to the homeless and loveless in their plight and

(01:21:08):
guard against corruption from this godless world. Amen, wan't to
put your hands together and get the Lord hands that
creature they can see. I want this morning, just very briefly,
very intentionally, to speak about the idolatry of counterfeit religion,

(01:21:36):
the idolatry of counterfeit religion in this book, the Book
of James. This first chapter, in particular, the writer of.

Speaker 40 (01:21:44):
James is warning against what can be viewed as performative religion,
superficial religion that is steeped and ritual and even words,
but not connected to embodiments and practice.

Speaker 8 (01:22:02):
The Right of.

Speaker 42 (01:22:03):
James warns us that religion that is only built on
words is hot air and performance with no power.

Speaker 8 (01:22:14):
And the idea of.

Speaker 10 (01:22:17):
Religion based on words is really.

Speaker 42 (01:22:19):
How Christianity in the West and in this country in particular,
bears its origins. Now it's too long for me to
explain the origin of this, but what happens is when
religion is not connected to practice, but simply having the
right words or quote unquote right doctrine, then you hold

(01:22:40):
people accountable for what they say, how they say it.

Speaker 10 (01:22:44):
But not what they do.

Speaker 42 (01:22:46):
This is why there's so many people who can claim
to be Christian because they believe that when it's convenient,
they have the right words to say and maybe even
the right doctrine, but it doesn't line up with their practice.
I've said this before It's amazing how even during the
time of slavery in this country there were people slave masters,
slave owners who went to church on Sunday, sang hymns,

(01:23:12):
prayed prayers, read scripture, and when church was over, went
to lynch a black body. Because in their minds it
was easy to declare the words that sound right, but
there was a disconnection between what was coming out of
their mouth and what they were actually practicing. Across history,
we've watched religion more from a call to serve into

(01:23:35):
a tool to rule, from a source of healing for
the broken, to a brand for the powerful Christian nationalism
of those whose Christianity is not shaped by Jesus, but
those whose Christianity is shaped by white supremacy and the
racist misuse of Christianity with the writer James called the

(01:23:58):
self deceived.

Speaker 8 (01:24:00):
Just because you.

Speaker 42 (01:24:01):
Say God or use the word Jesus, does it mean
that any of those things have infiltrated your heart? This
distorted and dangerous use of Christianity baptizes the American flag,
crowns leaders with divine approval, even if the leaders are

(01:24:21):
not really leaders shaped after God's own heart, and then
has the audacity to equate patriotism with holiness. This is
not real religion. It is the idolatry of power. Sometimes
we don't think we can say those words. We can
critique people for having counterfeit of false religion.

Speaker 8 (01:24:42):
But Jesus did it.

Speaker 42 (01:24:43):
As we walk in that same tradition, we can tell
by the way it sounds and how it manifests itself.
This is performative Christianity at best.

Speaker 43 (01:24:55):
It takes the language of church, the language of religion,
the language of the Gospel, and bends it into a
mythology of dominance, equating God's blessings with the nation supremacy
and white supremacy with holiness, and view political control as.

Speaker 40 (01:25:15):
A divine mandate. This is counterfeit religion.

Speaker 42 (01:25:20):
You need to hear that today because what I realize
is that the whole lot of people who do not
know the history of Christianity do not understand the teachings
of Jesus, who fall victim to the kind of.

Speaker 40 (01:25:31):
Teaching that again aligns Christianity with power, domination, and oppression,
oppression with means spiritedness and hate fell language, and somehow
think because you say you're a Christian, we ought to
believe that you cannot use.

Speaker 10 (01:25:47):
The Bible to destroy people's lives.

Speaker 42 (01:25:50):
And more than that, you cannot be someone who spews hate,
who undermines bodies that are black and.

Speaker 40 (01:25:58):
Brown, who declares awful, destructive rhetoric against people you don't like,
and then you say you're a Christian. Because you say
you're a Christian, somehow your words.

Speaker 42 (01:26:08):
Are sanctioned by God. No, that's false, counterfeit religion. We
cannot forget that in this country, Christianity has been used
to justify slavery, segregation, and the subjugation of entire peoples.
It is not just white supremacy. It is the theology
of whiteness, not.

Speaker 10 (01:26:29):
Of color, but of power.

Speaker 40 (01:26:31):
It is a kind where scriptures are twisted, poop is weaponized,
and they seek to make Jesus a mascot of the
American country, or made Jesus a mascot of the empire.
That is counterfeit religion. Again, it is not religion that
is steep in the teachings of Jesus, and we must
be able to call that to the table.

Speaker 44 (01:26:54):
I want us to be mindful that just because there
are bigots in the land, and just because there's some
hate filled people that are in the land. Don't allow
their hate to seep into your spirit, don't allow their
littleness to make you little. Don't allow their vitriolic, violent

(01:27:21):
rhetoric to dissenter you from the truth that you are
made in the image and the likeness of God.

Speaker 8 (01:27:29):
And it's a lot of nuance. Everybody say nuance. Nuances.

Speaker 44 (01:27:33):
I want you to get that word in your vocabulary
because you, like I have had a lot of conversations
this week with people who are on one side of
the tracts and some who are on the other side
of the tracks. Some are conservative, some are liberals, some
are Democrats, some are Republican, some are white supremacist racists,
and others are people of color who are dealing with

(01:27:54):
the sting of that supremacy in their lives. But guess what,
we all got children, And two things can be true
at the same time. Charlie Kirk did not deserve to
die like that. Nobody deserves to die because of their opinions,
because of their political views.

Speaker 8 (01:28:14):
The church is quiet.

Speaker 44 (01:28:15):
Nobody deserves to be assassinated in a democracy because they
may feel a way that's different than another person. At
the same time, that person who is assassinated could have
been a very problematic person to people who don't look
like them in this nation. So we can critique assassination,

(01:28:39):
but also call out the rhetoric that he used and
say you shouldn't have been saying that in the first place.
And then for a president to lower a flag half
mass for Charlie Kirk but not acknowledge the legislators who
were assassinated in Minnesota, not even acknowledge them. As a president,

(01:29:01):
you ought to be shame of yourself. You're not the
president of the people you like, you're the president of
all American people. And so everybody say nuance, its nuance.
It's complex, and you can't just come in with your
you know, your parochial, limited, narrow view of life. Be

(01:29:24):
broader to listen to other perspectives at the same time,
because you can walk in che gum.

Speaker 8 (01:29:29):
Two things can be true at the same time.

Speaker 44 (01:29:32):
Our president is problematic to the safety of all Americans
in this nation. White, black, green, purple, red, orange, blue.

Speaker 10 (01:29:43):
President Trump's rhetoric.

Speaker 8 (01:29:47):
Is divisive.

Speaker 44 (01:29:49):
You don't come back after something that tragic and blame
the left because the left didn't shoot up a manual
Amme church in Charceston. The left didn't shoot up Sandy
Hook Elementary School. The left is left and right, and
if we're gonna be balanced, you gotta be balanced on
left and right, or else you have a nation with vertigo,

(01:30:14):
and it's hard to walk straight when you're dizzy. The
left and the right have to balance and find a
way to live together, or else we're gonna die together.

Speaker 39 (01:30:28):
I can more and deeply a person's violent death as
a human being and a brother in the human family,
but still greatly disagree and debate the policies and views
here she had while they lived. I can call someone
mister president if they hold the office and still declare
that they are living and acting beneath that office and

(01:30:51):
abusing that office and misusing that office.

Speaker 45 (01:30:57):
The Declaration of Independence teaches us this. The Declamation of
Independence teaches us that when policies and politicians are abusive,
it is the right, it is the duty of people
to say and do something, to dissent, to challenge.

Speaker 8 (01:31:12):
And if necessary, to change that form of government.

Speaker 46 (01:31:17):
So Washington, DC, so Metropolitan amme Church, we are doing
ministry under occupation. Around August twelfth, the White House deployed
about eight hundred National Guard troops and about five hundred
federal agents to this the federal city, and we must

(01:31:40):
do ministry here under occupation. And might I say this morning,
thus far y'all are doing pretty good. Choir y'all singing
like a choir on fire under occupation. Musicians you all
are playing like musicians on fire under occupation. And people

(01:32:02):
of God, as we worship, as we give our energy,
as we engage our bodies, our spirits and our soul,
we are on fire under occupation. Can I tell you
the other day when we hosted the prayer visual and
Doctor Brian when we were preparing, because that and other

(01:32:23):
media folk let me know that the White House had called.
The White House had called to check to see.

Speaker 10 (01:32:36):
What kind of prayers we would be praying. I need
y'all to hear this.

Speaker 46 (01:32:42):
Then it probably is one of the melanated Maga folk
who did y'all hear what I said? Though, mellenated Maga
folk who is in charge of Negro affairs in that
White House figured out that we having some and they
called to ask what kind of prayers will you be praying?

(01:33:06):
And what will you be doing? And how long will
it last? And they were wise enough to answer that
for me, because.

Speaker 10 (01:33:20):
I would have let them know that we.

Speaker 46 (01:33:22):
Were paying praying prayers a revolution, prayers that God would
take down the mighty and lift up the lowly.

Speaker 41 (01:33:32):
We would be praying prayers a revolution that rough places
would be made smooth and crooked places, Praying that we
would be praying prayers a revolution, that the waters of
justice would flow in this city and in this nation,
that we.

Speaker 10 (01:33:51):
Were singing songs of revolution.

Speaker 8 (01:33:54):
That's what we are doing.

Speaker 46 (01:33:58):
And they all need to be clear that they are
here this morning, that they are everywhere. But I need
them to understand that we were not afraid then, and
we will not be afraid now in the midst of
the occupation.

Speaker 41 (01:34:15):
We will keep doing well we've always done, preaching like
we've all ways preached, serving like we've all ways shird.
We will not roll over under occupation.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Hatred on the streets.

Speaker 9 (01:34:38):
A horrific scene white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence.

Speaker 10 (01:34:45):
Were white people.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
Are losing their their a's a ang way proach.

Speaker 8 (01:34:50):
Trump Mark storms to the US capital.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
We're about to see the rise where I call white
minority resistance. You have seen white folks in this country
who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting.

Speaker 9 (01:35:03):
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of
violent denial.

Speaker 15 (01:35:08):
This is part of American history.

Speaker 12 (01:35:10):
Every time that people of color have made progress, whether
real or symbolic, there has been but Carold Anderson at
every university calls white rage as a backlash.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
This is the right of the proud boys and the
Boogaaloo boys America.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
There's going to be more of this.

Speaker 47 (01:35:25):
It's all the proud boy of God.

Speaker 7 (01:35:27):
This country is getting increasingly racist and its behaviors and
its attitudes because of the fear of.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
White people, the fear that they're taking our job, they're
taking our resources, they're.

Speaker 8 (01:35:38):
Taking out women.

Speaker 10 (01:35:39):
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Speaker 32 (01:36:55):
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Speaker 5 (01:36:57):
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Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
Folks hashtag in the Stereotypes is a T shirt apparel
company with a mission to break down harmful stereotypes. Joining
us right now from Godport, Mississippi, is founder Ylanda craft Ylanda.
Welcome to Roland Martin until tell how you doing?

Speaker 38 (01:37:23):
I'm great?

Speaker 46 (01:37:24):
How are you.

Speaker 8 (01:37:27):
Doing?

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Great?

Speaker 7 (01:37:27):
Art?

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
So where did this idea come from? Where did it start?

Speaker 23 (01:37:32):
It started back in two thousand and nine when I
was living in Tennessee and I went through the mall
and I saw a gentleman wearing a shirt that said
I support Single Mothers.

Speaker 49 (01:37:42):
But on the shirt was a woman on a pole.
Given the image, you know, she was an anxiety dancer.
And that image really bothered me because I am a
single mother and that's not who I am. So that evening,
I couldn't shake it, and so it came to mind,
how can I come back this, How can I let
people know that is not who all single mothers are?

(01:38:02):
And I just begin to sketch out I am a
single mother, I am not promiscuous.

Speaker 23 (01:38:07):
I am not on welfare. I am not And that's
how the idea became. And then I just expanded to
I am a black woman. I am not loud, I'm
not angry, I'm not gettle, I'm not bitter. I thought
about my father, my brother, my son, thought about what
they are facing as black men, and the idea.

Speaker 8 (01:38:25):
Just grew from there.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
And you started this win.

Speaker 49 (01:38:32):
Two thousand and nine was when it was first started.

Speaker 23 (01:38:35):
I launched my first website in twenty twelve and we
revamped in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
So you're vamping twenty twenty one. And so how's it
gone to so far?

Speaker 49 (01:38:48):
So far, it's going well.

Speaker 23 (01:38:49):
We are still small but growing, but definitely we're getting
more attention, more selles.

Speaker 49 (01:38:55):
We're growing faster.

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
Now, gotcha? And what would you say is your most
popular shirt?

Speaker 23 (01:39:05):
The most parerpular shirt by far right now are the
I am a Black woman t shirts as well as
that I am a black man T shirts.

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
All right, then questions from my panel, I'm got stop
for you first.

Speaker 15 (01:39:21):
Yeah, well, sister, thank you for doing this.

Speaker 16 (01:39:22):
It's always important to correct the narrative and to bring
forth the beauty that exists.

Speaker 8 (01:39:27):
In our community.

Speaker 16 (01:39:29):
I'm curious, as your business is growing, where do you
see yourself in the next couple of years.

Speaker 10 (01:39:36):
I want to.

Speaker 23 (01:39:36):
Develop a full fashion brand, so not just T shirts
and hoodies. We want to be top and bottom in
retail stores in New York Fashion Week. I wanted to grow,
but not just for any general purposes. I want people
to become more knowledgeable of how harmful stereotypes are and
how they affect our community.

Speaker 19 (01:39:58):
Larry, Yeah, congratulations on your success. And my question relates
to what are you doing? Like you've got some very
creative T shirts. What do you do to protect the product?

Speaker 49 (01:40:11):
Right?

Speaker 19 (01:40:12):
There are a lot of you know entities out there
that replicate you know, T shirts, et cetera.

Speaker 24 (01:40:17):
Hats.

Speaker 19 (01:40:17):
What are you doing to protect your brand from that happening?

Speaker 23 (01:40:22):
We are still working on that. The brand itself is trademark.
We are working on how we can protect our designs.
That's still a work in progress.

Speaker 8 (01:40:30):
Right now.

Speaker 23 (01:40:31):
It's just you know, we're just playing, but we didn't
want to wait to get our ideas out there, our
messages out there. But we are working with attorneys on
how to continue to protect our designs and our wording
as they continue to roll out.

Speaker 8 (01:40:47):
How many different designs do you have.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
Right now?

Speaker 49 (01:40:50):
We have about fourteen different designs?

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
Okay, fourteen different designs.

Speaker 50 (01:40:56):
So and so.

Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
What would now? Did you come up with all of
these or did your users?

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
Did your fans also your supporters suggest different different shirts
they would like.

Speaker 49 (01:41:10):
These are all my ideas so far.

Speaker 23 (01:41:12):
We are open to hearing from our fans, from our
buyers of what else they would like to see.

Speaker 49 (01:41:17):
But so far, all the all of the designs that
are on the website currently, we're.

Speaker 10 (01:41:21):
All born from me.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
All right then, well, folks, if y'all want to check
out these shirts, go to shop blackstartnetwork dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
They're on the website.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
You can check it out shop Blackstart network dot com.
Hashcheck in the stereotypes we get all the different designs.
You want to get one of these shirts, please do
so by going to shop Blackstart Network dot com.

Speaker 8 (01:41:45):
Landa, We certainly appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
Congratulations on this and hopefully folks will buy all your
product up.

Speaker 49 (01:41:53):
Thank you so much and thank you for having me.
We appreciate all that you are doing as well for.

Speaker 8 (01:41:57):
The August.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Thanks a bunch folks.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
Quick break, we come back with chat with Jeffrey Osborn
here at the Jeffrey Osbourne Celebrity Golf Classic here in
Rhode Island. You watching Rolling, I'm gonna filter it on
the Black Start Network.

Speaker 10 (01:42:14):
Now streaming on the Blackstar Network.

Speaker 31 (01:42:18):
I have name recognition, but I tour more than any rapper,
and it's a lot of overseas stuff and it's like
I'm going all over the I've been to I've been
to eighty countries in my in my lifetime. And sometimes
I'll do interviews with people and they'd be like, so,
what you been doing?

Speaker 10 (01:42:36):
Like what you've been doing?

Speaker 41 (01:42:38):
You know what I'm saying, Like, I just came.

Speaker 10 (01:42:40):
Back from Belgium and Brazil and South Africa. What you
been doing?

Speaker 47 (01:42:44):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
Hey?

Speaker 50 (01:42:59):
Yo?

Speaker 41 (01:42:59):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
Mister Dalvin?

Speaker 38 (01:43:00):
Right here?

Speaker 15 (01:43:01):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:43:02):
Missus kase C's and.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
There representative to day O d e s Etis Joasy
right here and rollingd mardin Unfiltered.

Speaker 8 (01:43:21):
Folk Trucking Tail I'm in Rhode Island.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
It's like sixty two degrees temperatures dropping little breezy out
of here.

Speaker 8 (01:43:27):
Brother, ain't ready for this. I still want some heat.
Of course, we're here for the annual.

Speaker 1 (01:43:31):
Jeffrey Osbourne Celebrity Golf Classic. It's been a blast.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
We played today, practice round yesterday, played today. Of course,
had the mini show last night featuring Smokey Robinson, Jeffrey,
Chris Tucker, Johnny Gill. Uh and so we're gonna have
a course of the awards show tonight. Raised a bunch
of money last night, So welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
To the show. Jeffrey Osborne, have him here.

Speaker 8 (01:43:52):
What's up man?

Speaker 3 (01:43:53):
You man, you helped me out a lot of last night.

Speaker 8 (01:43:56):
You helped me right, rais a little money so you know, Uh,
previous year, Jeffy would.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
Tell me I was doing the auction.

Speaker 8 (01:44:02):
So I was about to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
Uh, and he was like what role.

Speaker 8 (01:44:06):
I was like, oh, I guess I'd be doing auction.

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
So we of course gave me some items, sold some
items and did we had to do raise some money.

Speaker 8 (01:44:16):
So tell folks, first of all, what this Golf Classic does.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
Who it supports?

Speaker 50 (01:44:21):
Well, you know, it's my hometown, Rhode Island, and I
figured it was better for me to come back and
do something for my hometown because everybody has the home
state my home state, right well, everybody has something in California,
and it's easy there because all the celebrities are that, right.
But I wanted to do it here, and I mean
it's a little bit more difficult because I got to
fly people in. But I got some great support, you know.

(01:44:41):
I got people like you to show up, people like
Smoky Chris Tucker, you know, Johnny Gill, got a great
bunch of musicians, and we tried to just actually entertain
people also. So I have like six charities here and
it's mainly youth driven, you know. We do then slid
over right over here. We do the Rhode Island Philarmonic

(01:45:02):
Orchestra because they go to schools and they help people
as far as learning how to read music, how to
write music, how to perform. So that's important to us,
you know. So we do the Rohde Island Orchestra, Philmonic Orchestra.
We do Boys and Girls Club. You know, boys and
Girls clubs. Everybody knows about the Boys and Girls Club.

(01:45:22):
We all came up to the boys and girls clubs.

Speaker 38 (01:45:25):
We do Buttonhole, which is a nine hole golf.

Speaker 50 (01:45:28):
Course that actually is for young people and they go
to the schools and they teach during recess time kids
how to play golf, and so we figured that was important.

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
We do the met School.

Speaker 50 (01:45:39):
It's a high school where you go to learn exactly
what you want to do through the next level, so
you get to pick and choose the classes you want
to better yourself. We do the Amos House and that's
like a safe haven kind of place. They take people
off the streets, they feed them, to find them housing.
And those are the kinds of things that we do
that are important to me, important to the sports, support

(01:46:00):
the community.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
And it feels good, man. It feels good to come
back home and be able to do something, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
And that's the thing a lot of people don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
I mean people always tell me, like, man, you always
playing golf somewhere, but not understanding that a lot of
these nonprofits.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
Really depend upon money being raised.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
You've got grants being cut on the federal government, on
the state government, and so the support of foundations are
really important, especially comes to the arts.

Speaker 50 (01:46:27):
Oh, without a doubt, that's the first thing that they
take away in the schools, especially the public schools, the
first thing they pull are the arts. And so it's
important for all of us as entertainers to speak up
and I go down and I speak you know, downtown
at the you know, the courts, to let them know
how important that they need to bring music back into
the schools because music is one of those healing things.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
It is actually proven that it helps students' grades, you know,
to have music.

Speaker 50 (01:46:54):
So we fight for that and that's important, and you know,
I'm proud to be able to shut here again.

Speaker 8 (01:47:00):
Music is universal. I mean it really is.

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
I don't care you look out of artism. Even now
you've performed.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
You got multi generation sitting out there singing wool wool
and concentrate on you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:11):
You have grandparents, parents and their kids.

Speaker 3 (01:47:13):
And it's amazing to see that.

Speaker 50 (01:47:14):
You know, when I first started, I'd never realized that
music could last that long and have that longing effect
on people. And it's the biggest honor is for people
to come up to me and say, hey, I got
married to your song thirty years ago, but I'm you're
still together. But yeah, that's a grassive. Best honor anyone
compared to an honist to actually getting married or something

(01:47:38):
that's really special to them and use your music.

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
That's that's incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:47:42):
Music also is healing.

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
And earlier this year, a lot of people were surprised
when you were when you came to But there's the Maryland.
Your wife had just passed away, and people were like,
I can't believe he actually showed up.

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 50 (01:47:58):
I had to because I know her, because she sets
a lot of things up for me. She does a
lot of my business. And if I had not done it,
I could hear her right now. Tell me you're gonna
get your butt out there. You'll be sitting around moping
and crying. So the toughest thing was I did a
show in Las Vegas four days after she passed, and
I did not want to do it, and my family

(01:48:19):
was saying, Dad, you got to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
She would really be upset if you didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:24):
So wife, she was so mad.

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
She was everything, she was my best friend, she was everything,
and they said, you know what, we'll all go.

Speaker 50 (01:48:34):
So it was the first time my whole family in
La came to Vegas that show and we had breakfast, lunch,
and dinner. It was the greatest bonding experience for all
of us.

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
So yeah, it is. It is healing. I mean the
first show was tough.

Speaker 50 (01:48:48):
I think I cried, you know, not even some of
the show, but I think people felt the emotion.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
So it was great to do.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
Yeah, and so this was you know, we will always
will see her here, always run and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
Right, always, always you're always running stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
I'm like, hey, you gotta go here, you gotta go here,
you gotta go here.

Speaker 1 (01:49:08):
And it was just so y'all understand how how she's
always running it.

Speaker 8 (01:49:12):
I don't have many pictures of her.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
I got a couple because she was she was rarely
in the pictures on the videos because she was always
working doing something.

Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 50 (01:49:21):
You know what's incredible is that these shows that I'm
still doing, people I go out in the audience a
lot and people are handing me cards, they're bringing flowers,
they're bringing cards.

Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
Really yeah, and it's tough.

Speaker 50 (01:49:32):
You know, because you're trying to kind of move away,
move ahead, and they bring you right back to that space.

Speaker 3 (01:49:38):
But I respect them. It's beautiful for them to do.

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
That, absolutely, absolutely what but also goes to show you.
I mean, those were true fans. They're not there just hey,
you seem to me make me feel good.

Speaker 3 (01:49:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:49:48):
No, they know about you.

Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
They know is your family person.

Speaker 50 (01:49:51):
They know your kids, they know your wife, and it's
beautiful to see them come up and.

Speaker 8 (01:49:57):
Speaking that you got the whole family involved.

Speaker 17 (01:49:59):
They got to work the.

Speaker 50 (01:50:00):
Yeah, yes, it's kind of a family thing. I got,
you know, my daughter Tiffany, she kind of runs just
about everything. And my nephew Terrell. Between the two of them,
they handle everything. I got my my nephew spin he's
my disc jockey. My son does my live sounds. He's
with me all the time.

Speaker 38 (01:50:18):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
I got Nieces charleyne out of here. They're helping me.
So it's kind of a family thing and it's nice
to do that here.

Speaker 50 (01:50:24):
In Rhode Island, to have the family support and keep
that name going here. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
I tell it, what's crazy every time every time I
tell my I'm coming his golf turn and they go Jacket.

Speaker 8 (01:50:33):
From Rhode Island, I mean he from Road.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
I was like, yeah, I said, I said, the black
population road increase every year for two days.

Speaker 50 (01:50:46):
In this golf tournament right to then when I tell
people I'm from Providence, bro when they said, ain't no
black people, I said, well, you know, it is the
smallest state and it's not a big population. But I
grew up around the little hood with a lot of
black people, so you know, but comparison to like Houston.

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
Right right right, it ain't bad.

Speaker 10 (01:51:09):
And one of the things did you do?

Speaker 1 (01:51:10):
I didn't. I didn't even think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
We talked about yesterday, how you move this termin around
the different places?

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
Right, so, so other courses can be a part of
this thing. A lot of times it just at one location,
right exactly.

Speaker 50 (01:51:24):
Yeah, we moved around. We even took it out of
Road Island and went the Fox was and that was great.
They really treated us great. They treated my celebrities great.
Uh So, yeah, we do move around. But I really
like this place. It's the first time I've been here.
I like the people here, I love the golf course.
Uh so I'll probably be back here next year to
do it.

Speaker 8 (01:51:44):
Okay, how's the golf game?

Speaker 3 (01:51:46):
Golf game was weak today? I mean, you know a
lot of it now what a lot of it depends.

Speaker 50 (01:51:52):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
Crusting some THATTT some good at Potters, so we just
cannot it was.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
I think we finished sixth under.

Speaker 3 (01:52:04):
That's that's good. We finished way under way under everybody.

Speaker 8 (01:52:08):
I mean, I think we pot for holes and the rest.

Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
We just picked it up. Bernie.

Speaker 17 (01:52:13):
It was that it was that bad, that bad.

Speaker 50 (01:52:15):
You know, they put me with the top sponsors. I
have to play with them, and you never know who's
going to show up. So I played with had two
women and two guys.

Speaker 1 (01:52:24):
On the go, and so joining yourself.

Speaker 8 (01:52:27):
Yeah, we enjoyed the court.

Speaker 3 (01:52:29):
We enjoyed the court.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Enjoyed the court and the company and the company and
the company. I wasn't next for you, because you're still listening.

Speaker 8 (01:52:35):
You out there, you on the road. Somebody hit me early.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
They were like, somebody said, uh, Jeff, he's seventy seventy one.

Speaker 50 (01:52:42):
I was right.

Speaker 8 (01:52:43):
I said, no he lived. I said he let older
than that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:45):
No, I'm seventy seven, seventies seventy.

Speaker 8 (01:52:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, older than that. But you're still out there.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
You're still singing, perform all this.

Speaker 3 (01:52:57):
I'm still out doing it. Man. I love what I do.

Speaker 50 (01:52:59):
And you know, when I decide I'm through and don't
enjoy it anymore, that's when I'll retire.

Speaker 8 (01:53:05):
But right now I love it.

Speaker 50 (01:53:07):
The hardest part is to travel their lines stuck right now. Yeah,
it's just this is terrible. You miss Jows messing around
with these other lines.

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
Yeah, some way you would have got a goo gon
going there or something like that.

Speaker 8 (01:53:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 50 (01:53:19):
I now I have to put the travel there in
between the shows before I could do back to Backshaw.
And I can only do that unless if we're traveling
like a car or something, we have steps within one
hundred and two hundred miles, I can, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:53:31):
But other than that, Brown was born in the band
and the Winter Bay Go.

Speaker 3 (01:53:39):
We did them buses back in the day. Yeah, okay,
busses was cool.

Speaker 17 (01:53:42):
Where are you going next?

Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
Well, in Baltimore's Saturday?

Speaker 50 (01:53:45):
Okay, all right, more win in Baltimore Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 50 (01:53:48):
So I'm gonna stay here a couple that I'm not
gonna get back to La I live in La God
and come back to Baltimore, so that would be my
hometown for a couple days.

Speaker 3 (01:53:56):
And then we'll take off Friday and go to Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (01:53:57):
All right there, But man, listen, it's always it's great
to come here and be here and uh and see
you and uh support the cause.

Speaker 8 (01:54:05):
Uh so always.

Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
I only miss always somebody that last.

Speaker 38 (01:54:09):
Year, it wasn't.

Speaker 8 (01:54:10):
I guess I COVID.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
Last year, I missed you your term of a SIDS.
I got COVID because I was like, what the hell
was I Last year it was COVID. But I'm glad
to be back. It's glad to have you back.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
Man.

Speaker 8 (01:54:22):
I'll go all other prision and again, y'all we raised
a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
Somebody watching, they want to support the foundation.

Speaker 8 (01:54:30):
Where did they go?

Speaker 50 (01:54:31):
Or they can go to the website, you know, the
Jeffrey I Wasborn Foundation website. Then they can, you know,
they can support if they want. We'll have some things
on the website. We had a couple of items that
didn't go last night. We're gonna throw that on the website.
So yeah, if you want to just go to the website,
you can. You can donate.

Speaker 18 (01:54:47):
You know, you can help.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
We're always looking for help.

Speaker 8 (01:54:50):
There you go, you know all about the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
We were getting ready for the for the for the
post tournament party. So Jeff you gotta go do some work.

Speaker 8 (01:55:01):
I'm ready, microphone.

Speaker 1 (01:55:03):
I'm gonna see you inside.

Speaker 8 (01:55:04):
We'll do that, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
You and I guess it was the too Cool West
Sheer shirt. Y'all know I messed with Jeff all the
time because.

Speaker 8 (01:55:14):
Last time Jay, three or four times shep shirt. So, y'all,
it's a running joke.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
It's a running joke.

Speaker 1 (01:55:20):
At the first place, one of.

Speaker 3 (01:55:21):
The golf terms.

Speaker 1 (01:55:22):
Don't get a sheer shirt.

Speaker 8 (01:55:23):
I'm telling you, I'm gonna have some maid one year.

Speaker 10 (01:55:26):
You're the only one, y'all.

Speaker 8 (01:55:32):
I messed with with the sheer shirt every time you do.

Speaker 3 (01:55:38):
But it's all good, man.

Speaker 8 (01:55:39):
I know, Jimmy got about thirty forty ship shirts at home.
Not any more to man, I see you inside.

Speaker 1 (01:55:48):
Yeah, yesterday, that's my man, jeffy Osbourn.

Speaker 3 (01:55:52):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:55:52):
Yesterday we were coming off the golf course and the
band was practicing.

Speaker 1 (01:55:56):
The band was practicing and they had they.

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
Were doing dount Chick and so it was it was
Chris Tucker, Johnny Gill and myself.

Speaker 8 (01:56:04):
So we said, let's pop on in there.

Speaker 10 (01:56:05):
And they were.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
Actually uh doing a sound check for my my Ma
and well, you.

Speaker 8 (01:56:11):
Know, the three of us crazy, specially those two. So
this happened.

Speaker 21 (01:56:19):
Come on, let's see.

Speaker 32 (01:56:22):
I said, don't want to let you know because Christ

(01:56:51):
because you're.

Speaker 39 (01:57:07):
Let me.

Speaker 10 (01:57:11):
How idiots we're doing.

Speaker 48 (01:57:15):
Yer you get your birth had met.

Speaker 32 (01:57:28):
Yeah, shutting down, down boy, shut down you Why the.

Speaker 50 (01:57:42):
Er?

Speaker 32 (01:57:42):
What WoT on your hat?

Speaker 38 (01:57:46):
And we heard saying it song?

Speaker 47 (01:57:48):
So we send in the sea so we can see
how you're going to. Let don't clim the night that

(01:58:21):
the world the world?

Speaker 32 (01:58:27):
No, no, I'm saying, what can what else?

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
Let me do?

Speaker 45 (01:58:41):
Listen, I said.

Speaker 32 (01:58:50):
It is all right night, sister.

Speaker 47 (01:58:55):
Says bass say.

Speaker 32 (01:59:04):
Bank, So.

Speaker 47 (01:59:28):
I can second noun together here, show call her, show
call her, show word So.

Speaker 32 (01:59:51):
Reason you.

Speaker 3 (01:59:53):
Have to.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
Absolutely shenanigans here, y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:00:23):
I got lots more to stuff to show, y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:00:25):
Smokey Robinson, Richard Dent, Uh, we got Claudia Jordan. We
got some great stuff to show, y'all. So I'll have
that for the rest of this week. I'm back in
studio tomorrow, y'all, so look forward.

Speaker 1 (02:00:37):
To be back in DC.

Speaker 2 (02:00:38):
Let me think, well, stop for and Larry for being
on today's show, gentlemen, I certainly appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:43):
Thank you so very much.

Speaker 2 (02:00:45):
Always a pleasure to have y'all here on the panel,
So I certainly appreciate it.

Speaker 50 (02:00:50):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:00:50):
So I had a ball here, so like I say,
what to head uh to the post tournament party. So
looking forward to that. Uh So let me go ahead
and wrap this thing up, folks.

Speaker 8 (02:00:59):
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