GA DA Blamed for Fumbling Cop Shooting Case, Flint Water Crisis, Black Trumper Calls out Racism

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Twenty twenty four. Coming up on roland Mark Unfiltered streaming
live on the Black Star Network. A Black Georgia family
says a Black da mishandle the case of the fatal
officer involved shooting of Devonte Brown by not presenting all
of the evidence of the Cobb County grand jury. The
Brown family attorney will join US Supreme Court Here's arguments

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in the election case to keep Donald Trump off of
Colorado's a presidential ballot. The questions asked by the justices
seem to lean towards rejecting the argument that Trump violated
Section three of the Fourteenth Amendment. National security expert doctor
Dola Haynes would join us today can discuss the latest
US drone strike and while the Israeli Prime Minister called

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a ceasebar proposal delusional. Also, we continue to reflect on
the Flint water crisis. With one team's team's effort to
ensure every Flint citizen has water, Little Miss Flint Marie
Copany is gonna be joining us up the US or
to her water filter fund. Plus, racist Charlie Kirk has

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pissed off Black conservatives, one of them one of the
Trump advisors, Doctor pastor doctor Darryl Scott will join me
tonight talk about how conservative races like Kurt are taking
over the GOP plus pharmaceutical CEOs appear before the United
States Senate today to explain why they charge so much

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of America so little in Canada. I'm gonna show y'all
how much these pharmaceutical companies spent on advertising and why
little of it goes to black people. It is time
to bring the funk. I'm roll up Mark nonfiltered on
the Black Star Network. Let's got.

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Speaker 1 (02:40):
Twenty eight year old Davante Dwayne Brown was fairly shot
by a Cobb County, Georgia Police Department officer in August
of twenty twenty one. Reports a cop County officers saw
Brown driving erratically. He initially was pulled over, but allegedly
refused to comply. He sped away, leading officers on a
brief chase. At one point, the officers tried to box

(03:01):
Brown in the vehicle, promptly Brown to hit the police vehicles.
As police officers tried to take Brown into custody, Cobb
County police officer Ian McConnell fired his gun several times,
striking Brown. The Brown family attorney accuses Cobb County DA
Flynn D. Brody Jr. Of mishandling this case. Attorney Bernardo

(03:23):
Villalona says Brody failed to present the full evidence gathered
by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation to a grand jury,
ultimately leading to a no indictment against the Cobb County officer. BERNARDA.
Joins us down from New York. So, first of all,
typically grand jury proceedings are silent, private, however you want

(03:46):
to call it. How are you aware of what the
DA presented to the grand jury?

Speaker 5 (03:52):
Hi, Roland, thanks for having me. So in terms of
what was presented into the grand jury, I have the
grand jury transcript. You got to think that when a
case is presented to a grand jury, there is a
court reporter that is inside of that room and is
typing down everything that is said. So one hundred and
four page transcript was received as a result of that presentation,
and I have read one hundred and four pages as
well as review the exhibits that were presented to that

(04:14):
grand jury.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
So what was it that the DA did not present?

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Well, there were several things that the DA did not
do and that they did do that they did in era,
primarily Roland. When we're looking at a grand jury, usually
you hear that a grand jury can indict a hand Sandwich.
Let's just be clear that the prosecutor has all the
power in the sense of what's presented to the grand jury,
was not presented to the grand jury, how they present

(04:41):
the case to the grand jury, and how they answer
the questions that the grand jurors proposed. Now Here in
this case, Roland, when we're dealing with a police officer,
a police officer that has fired his gun multiple times,
twelve times into a vehicle, why is it that no
police policy was presented to that grand jury for their consideration.

(05:02):
How was that grand jury supposed to know whether what
this police officer, Am McConnell did was pursuing to cop
County Police Department policy that was not presented to the
grand jury, primarily vehicle pursuit, primarily whether you can fire
a gun into a vehicle that was not presented to
the grand jury.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Wow, Why have you heard from the DA why was
it presented?

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Because they had their intent from the very beginning Rowland
from reading this grand jury presentation.

Speaker 6 (05:34):
Let's just be clear, because I'm not just talking to talk.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
I was a prosecuted for sixteen years and I have
presented dozens, hundreds, not hundreds of cases to a grand jury.
So I know how to present a case through a
grand jury, and it's supposed to be a fair and
impartial presentation. This ADA that presented the case to the
grand jury clearly presented it with an intent to have
no movement, no recommendation to continue or pursue any indictment

(06:01):
in this case.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
So what's next for you? What else can be done?
Can you? Can this be taken somewhere else? Can the
state attorney general? What can you do?

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Well, what we're requesting is for the Attorney General to present,
actually to assign a special prosecutor to this case, because
clearly this DA is not able to present a fair
and impartial presentation to a grand jury. So very requested
that the Attorney General assign a special prosecutor to take
a look at this case and present the case to
a grand jury the proper way. Secondly, we're asking for,

(06:39):
if possible, the Department of Justice to get involved and
to take a look at this case and see if
there's any charges that could be presented against this officer.

Speaker 7 (06:47):
Thirdly, we are looking.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
To file a civil lawsuit, whether that's state and federal,
but we are looking to file a lawsuit to try
to get some kind of justice for the family of
DeVante Brown, because obviously this DA wasn't.

Speaker 8 (06:59):
Looking for that.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Wow, this is certainly, you know, one of those hard
cases to have to deal with here. You would think
we have that amount of evidence you would see that
actually take place. Did the DA even offer Uh? Did
he leave it up to the grand jurgy decide if

(07:22):
you know what charges or was there a particular charge
that he tried to pursue with the grand jury?

Speaker 7 (07:28):
Well, how about this Roland.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
The DA didn't even present charges to the grand jury.
What they did is that they used this grand jury
as a special presentation and that meaning that they present.

Speaker 7 (07:39):
All of the evidence in a neutral manner.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
That's how they're supposed to do it, and for the
grand jury to make a determination as to whether they
should continue the investigation, continue this case and pursuing to
present this case to another grand jury for charges. So
charges weren't presented us as grand jury in McConnell, the
officer that killed Davonte Brown, what didn't testifying the grand jury.

(08:03):
In fact, no other officer testified in the grand jury.

Speaker 8 (08:07):
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Speaker 1 (08:09):
All right, well, certainly let us know what happens next
here in this particular case. All right, thanks a bunch.
All right, folks, gonna go to a break. We come
back more on Roland Martin filter. We're gonna talk about,
of course, lots of stuff we gotta talk about. Of course,
we gotta deal with scholars in the Supreme Court today.

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Speaker 1 (11:57):
Alright, folks, how many times have I to yoall to
understand that when people are talking about, oh, how vital
our HBCUs are, I've said repeatedly, be wary of that
because many of them are public institutions in Southern states.
That means Republicans are the ones who are in control

(12:21):
of the leadership of these HBCUs. They're the ones who
are picking the boards of regents, they're picking the presidents.
That's what's going on. Go to my iPad. A couple
of days ago in Tennessee, the Senate moved a bill
that would vacate the Tennessee State Board of Regents. Now,
if you look at the article from the Nationville, Tennessee,

(12:43):
and they give the Governor Bill Lee power to appoint
new board members to oversee the institution, of course you
could have these board members real appointed. We get these
lawmakers who are upset with the performance of the current board.
Now you see this report. Can Senator John Lumberg say,
I think the issues that TSU are self evident. We've

(13:05):
talked about them literally for years. It was a seven
to two vote. Two Democrats, one from Nashville, what from
Memphis voted no. Senator Charleyne Oliver, she is going to
join us tomorrow on the show. Now here's what's interesting.
You see right there in the next article quote the legislature,

(13:26):
the very body that has been responsible for underfunding TSU,
is making allegations harsh ones about the way this university
is running its business. Oliver said that while wearing a
TSU pen and a blue blazer, for many people in
the community, these allegations feel unfair, especially when you consider
the full context. Now that's the whole deal here. See,

(13:49):
this is the thing the State of Tennessee Owes, Tennessee State,
some five hundred million dollars. They have been grossly underfunded. Okay,
and the same people who approved a billion dollars to
build a stadium for the Tennessee Titans, the football NFL
football team, making the owners billionaires already more money they
are underfunding. So then they turn around and complain about mismanagement.

(14:13):
They've complained to the president, doctor Glenna Glover last year
about oh about your housing crisis. Well, if you've been
a whole enough five hundred million damned dollars, I can't
build any new damn dormitories. If you're holding up half
a billion dollars, I would have the money to invest
in the institution of my panel right now, Doctor Greg Carr,
Department back for American Studies at Howard University of Tennessee

(14:35):
State Graduate Joneses. Recie Cobert, of course, a host of
our own show on Serious XM Radio. I'm glad to
have her lavoratory of Burke right with the NNPG. Glad
to have you as well. Greg. I'm gonna start with you.
This is the classic case cove y'all ain't doing shit
y'all ain't doing nothing. Oh by the way, you didn't
give me the money to do something with. But you
now you're complaining, then I can't do my stuff right.

Speaker 12 (14:57):
But you've been underfunding me slowly, absolutely, Roland, I mean
you've already broken in down. This is just a matter
of us having to persevere and continue to fight these
white nationals.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
But we need to be clear about who we're fighting.

Speaker 12 (15:09):
Tennessee State, like Jackson State, like Florida and m like
so many other schools behind the Cotton Curtain, are in
state capitals. These white nationals have been after Tennessee State
for decades. When our friend and brother, Fred Humphreys was
president of Tennessee State in the seventies and eighties, they
started to attack him because he made the demand for resources.

(15:33):
In nineteen sixty eight, Rita Geyer filed a lawsuit because
these white boys created another university in the city of
Nashville called the University of Tennessee at Nashville, trying to
create a white school there rather than give resources to
Tennessee State. Tennessee State ended up going to court and
took over the University of Tennessee Nashville. The Great Civil

(15:55):
rights lawyer Avon Williams led that what that's why the
downtown campus of Tennessee State is named on Williams Campus.
One thing about devilment by white nationalists. They're not going
to stop. So this actually ironically comes in the way
in twenty sixteen of the legislature in Tennessee and the
governor giving control of the boards of trustees to the

(16:18):
schools in Tennessee that had before then been under the
control of the governor and government liblatorial appointments in the
Tennessee Higher Education Commission in the state Board of Regents.
Memphis State was pushing for that University of Memphis now
I think it calls itself. But anyway, long story short,
to bring this to a close, these white nationalists are
never going to give Tennessee State what it wants. They

(16:40):
would love to have a university in Nashville that they
can go to and get quality education, chiefly government employees.
They've tried to make Middle Tennessee State that university.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
But this is not going to end.

Speaker 12 (16:52):
We need to understand that we just need to fight
these white nationalists on this and there's no compromise.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
They need to be rolled over.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
See, the thing here that's quite interesting. Reci is come
back to my iPad. You'll see what the Tennessee Stories
Tennessee and Story says. At last February, the state threatened
to dissolve the TSU board and place the school under
the authority of the Border Regions after a scathing audit
for the Tennessee controls Offers reveal issues with leadership, financial decisions,

(17:19):
and housing of the university. Instead, the state allocated two
million dollars for another in depth audit of TSU and
gave the board a year to fix the problems. The
results of that audit have not yet been released, something
Oliver pointing out as she called for the committee to
delay its vote to give time to hear from the audience. Now,
how stupid is that? How dumb is it recy for

(17:42):
you to pay for an audit and you don't have
the results of the audit back to determine what the
auditors say, and your response is get rid of the board.
Common sense under any audit is you wait for to
see what the audio it reveals. Then you go, Okay,

(18:02):
what's the course of action.

Speaker 13 (18:05):
Yeah, well, I mean this is the reality when it
comes to racism, When it comes to white nationalism. They
always use competence as a pretext for removing black people
that they don't want in those positions. And so anytime
you want to talk about performance or you know, things
like this, it goes back down to racism at the

(18:28):
end of the day. I know that sounds conspiratorial, but
that's just the facts. That's why they don't want to
wait until the AUTO report comes out, because the AUTO
report will probably be more scathing about the lack of
resources that have been are the resources that have been
denied a Tennessee state. But I always look at things
like this as another salvo and the Republican war against
black education, against education in general. You know, we've seen

(18:50):
in multiple states now Florida and in Texas, and I
want to say Oklahoma recently made the news they are
dissolving DEI in public education, in public institutions, and so
this is taking it a step further where they're not
just trying to dissolve DEI and public institutions that are
not predominantly black, but they're trying to take over HBCUs.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
And so if that kind of model is allowed to follow,
if the.

Speaker 13 (19:14):
Kind of model where it was in Mississippi, where they
want to take over basically policing parts of the city
and take that put new courts in to have jurisdiction
over parts of the city so that they can control
what they want to control.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
It's all at war on black people.

Speaker 13 (19:31):
And that's why I continue to say we're having the
wrong discussion when we talk about democracy because democracy has
never truly worked for us.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
It wasn't designed to work for us.

Speaker 13 (19:39):
We weren't even human beings according to the founding documents
of this country. We need to be talking about citizenship.
And when you do not have the ability to influence
who gets to control the aspects of your life, the
aspects of your education, then you don't have full citizenship
in this country.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
So black people need to wake the hell up and
all of this that we keep seeing.

Speaker 13 (20:02):
Fifteen percent turn out when we have the capacity to
vote and run over these people. As doctor car said,
this is the chickens coming home to roosts on our apathy.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
And here's the thing here, of Laura that we have
just understand when we look at uh, you know what's
happening here. We showed on here the hearing where one
of these white Republicans was trying to figure out, uh,
why while all these kids trying to go to y'all school,

(20:33):
what are y'all doing different these other people? They are
angry that these black kids are not going to these
other state schools in Tennessee because these black kids are saying,
why the hell do I want to go to those
environments and not be treated as a one hundred percent American?
And so now it's like, oh, let's go ahead and

(20:53):
get rid of the boy. Here's what people have to understand.
The way you destabilize an institution is you gut the leadership,
you put handcuffs on the president, you gut the board,
and now all of a sudden, it's, oh, we're now
going to put in a new board. I have seen
this and again, and I love all these people out here.

(21:14):
I was smacking one around the other day who was
talking this crap. And he was actually an Alpha brother
as well, but I don't know if he legit Alpha
or not, but he was complaining about whole Oh, how
you know we don't have people out here who are
covering our stuff. But then they get mad if you
go to a PWI and you cover this stuff. Now,
I tell that fool. I said, Man, one hundred and

(21:35):
seven HBCUs, I've been a fifty four of them. You
ain't never seeing fifty four HBCUs. And I can call
thirty presidents on speed dial right now, and I've done
more stories and dealing with us here and Lauren is
the same at the same when we look at what's
happening with state institutions, if they want to control the outcomes,

(21:56):
they cut the head off of leadership. That's exactly what
they're doing in Tennessee. And people have to understand what's
happening with these fascists in Tennessee. They split Nashville into
four separate congressional districts to get rid of the Democrat
in Nashville. They've been trying to split Memphis up, but

(22:17):
they've been unsuccessful. Did on the county level, they can't
do it on a city level. They are literally trying
to attack all the institutions. They are trying. They passed
a bill. The folks at the Tennis Tennessee holler uh
they these fools passed a bill. Well, they are allocating
literally uh massive, massive breaks to businesses and won't tell

(22:44):
the public who the companies are the Republicans in Tennessee
are running a maga game plan that other Republicans are watching,
and they are going to try to do the exact
same thing in other states. So folks at your HBCI
supporters and other schools, y'all had better be paying attention.

(23:05):
And lastly, Lauren, where in the hell are the black
civil rights groups not standing up for Tennessee state?

Speaker 14 (23:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (23:14):
Well, also too, I think certainly we have now fifty
three members of the Congressional Black Caucus. I know that
they're not all in Tennessee, but you know their voice
is amplified on this issue. Would help. I mean, it
is a consistent pattern that we saw after Brown v.

Speaker 13 (23:30):
Board.

Speaker 8 (23:30):
It's sort of a massive resistance type of pattern of
we would rather destroy what you have than to have
you in charge of something or sharing the educational system
with us. And here we are only twelve to thirteen
percent of the population. And the two things they always
go after is controlling the money and of course controlling
the leadership. It's usually starving the money from the institutions

(23:51):
that we have anything to do with, and then of
course controlling the leadership and a sort of educational colonialism
play right, you're sort of dashing leadership from something to
destroy it so that you can control it to the
point where the group that you don't want to see
have any power and control is thwarted. Right. So it's
about money, and it's about it's about money, and of

(24:14):
course it's always about control and it's never about sharing.
It's always amazing to me the fact that again we're
only twelve thirteen percent of population, and nobody ever says, well,
wait a minute, why don't we just you know, let
them have this school that is of course state funded,
that deserves a certain amount of funding. And I mean,
I don't think that one HBCU is going to dominate
everything else. But you know, what I find is that

(24:35):
when any anytime there's a subjective situation in terms of
money and decision making in public policy and race, what
you learn in business and in politics is that unless
black folks control the decision making behind the money, this
is the situation that you have. Whether we're talking about
nil deals, whether we're talking about the broadcast news industry

(24:56):
or anything else, it can't be a subjective situation where
we all lie o white folks to make the decisions
because the decision that they'll ultimately make is that we're
not going to get any of the resources that might
equal the playing field in any way. Well, the fact
that there's a debate going on about nil right now
is quite interesting because they don't want to see black

(25:18):
kids get rid of.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Well, actually, actually hoole that thought, because I'm actually gonna
bring it up a little bit later. I saw the
uncle the other day and I was kind of like,
are y'all out your damn minds. We're gonna unpack that
as well. Hold type one second. We're going to go ahead, ghead,
go ahead, just very quickly.

Speaker 12 (25:33):
As you know, but some of the viewers might not know.
It's very important that point you made on leadership. Glinda
Baskin Glover, the current president of Tennessee State, who they
were determined to get rid of. In addition to a PhD,
she's a CPA. That's why they don't want this support
to come out. Yet they have to get rid of her. Yeah,
all people, she knows the money better than all of that.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
She's under attack, and she announced that she's retiring at
the end of this academic year. I mean, when you
are constantly being beaten and berated. You get tired, she's leaving.
That's right, that's right, absolutely, all right, hod typ one
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sixteen or eighteen years about saved since I when I
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I haven't had a vacation. I'd been a week vacation
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But this was the first time in almost in two decades, Wow.

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That I've actually had time to sit back and smell
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Next on the Black Table with me Craig Carr.

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Immigrants lured off Texas streets and shipped to places like
Martha's Vinue and Washington, DC.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Believe it or not, we've seen it all before.

Speaker 17 (29:32):
Your people in the North are so sympathetic to black people.

Speaker 12 (29:34):
You take the sixty years ago, they called it the
reverse freedom riots. Back then, Southern governors shipped black people
North with the false promise of jobs and a better life.
It's part of a well known playbook being brought back
to life.

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So what's next. That's next on the Black Table A
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Doctor Gerald Horn about this issue of the reverse freedom
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Speaker 12 (30:05):
I play Oscar on Proud Family, Louder and prouder right now, I'm.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Rolling with Rolling Martin, unfiltered, uncutting, unclugged, and undamned believable him.
All right, folks, there have been lots of demands for
a cease fire between Israel and Hamas. A lot of
folks have been making their voices known of the President

(30:30):
Biden to Democrats that this needs to happen. Well, guess what,
That ceasefire ain't gonna happen anytime soon. Israeli Prime Minister
net Yahoo has rejected Hamas's offer for a full release
of hostages in exchange for a one dering, thirty five
days ceasefire, a complete Israel Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, and
the release of well over one thousand Palestinian prisoners. He

(30:53):
promised to press forward with Israel's military offensive in Gaza
until he gets what he calls an absolute victory. Most
of the roughly one point five million Palestinians displaced from
their homes by the war have flocked into a southern
town border near Egypt. The health ministry in Hamas run Godspel.
Since at least twenty seven thousand, seven hundred and eight

(31:15):
people have been killed since the conflict began. One hundred
and twenty three deaths of twenty three of those deaths
happened over the past twenty four hours. Nearly sixty eight
thousand people have been injured. Since October seventh, National security
expertuct to Nola Haynes, jonphs right now, got glad to
have you here. Here's also what's going on. Yahoo is

(31:36):
basically saying to President Biden, go to Hell, but keep
sending me weapons, keep sending me money. You've now got.
I saw a tweet the other day from Elizabeth Warren
where she's sounding like a lot more Democrats in terms

(31:56):
of saying, look, if we are going to continue in
you to send money, then we're going to have to
get something in return.

Speaker 7 (32:08):
Well, thank you so much Roland for having me my
first official show.

Speaker 10 (32:11):
Now that I'm full time in DC, so I am
very limited on what I can say about Israel and Gaza,
but I will try to offer some larger overview. I'm
definitely more equipped to talk about what's happening in the
Red CEA this evening. But in terms of the ceasefire conversation,
public opinion in this country drives a lot of policy,
foreign policy and domestic policy, and so the calls for

(32:34):
a ceasefire, where the you know, the powers that be,
we're trying to push back and say, hey, there was
a ceasefire fire on October sixth, But because the calls
for a ceasefire were so profound even today on my
own campus, you know, they were.

Speaker 7 (32:51):
Having protests and calls for a ceasefire.

Speaker 10 (32:54):
But because that that particular policy is popular, then of course,
you know, Secretary Blinkoln goes to Israel and brings back
a policy suggestion, and it was, you know, summarily rejected
by Neta Yahoo, who says there was a ceasefire on
October sixth, and before that, and before that and before that.

(33:16):
So where I sit today is not so much about
a ceasefire, but what policy can we actually think about
that ends all of this because it's not a ceasefire.
There have been multiple cease fires that are always just
rejected for one reason or the other on one side,
on both sides. So I'm actually more concerned about what

(33:38):
is going to stop this, what is going to save lives.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Well, if you look at here's a tweet that I
was talking about, prominent and net Yahoo and his right
wing government have failed to get the hostages released and
have killed nearly thirty thousand Palestinians. No more blank checks
for net Yahoo. We need to condition aid resume the
ceasefire in advanced piece through a two state solution. And
here's the whole deal. He's rejected a two states solution.
But the corner that he's in is like the corner

(34:04):
that he's backed Frankly Biden in is oh ain't you
ain't gonna stop supporting us. So I'm gonna ignore your
calls and you're gonna keep sending me money in military.
When you say how to get to it, it's like
everything else in this country. When you cut the money off,
folks start paying attention. Biden is going to have to

(34:25):
have the guts to say, Net Yaho, I'm not releasing
another dollar unless this gets done. Otherwise, Netting Yahoo is
gonna continue doing what he's doing. And here's the other deal.
Let's be real clear, Netting Yaho, he ain't got no
problem for Biden losing. He don't like Democrats. He don't
like democrats. He would love nothing better than for Biden

(34:47):
to lose and for Trump to win.

Speaker 7 (34:50):
One thousand percent. This goes back to Barack Obama.

Speaker 10 (34:54):
Barack Obama was not the favorite of that time because
these conversations were happening and the conversations are still happening
about security packages that we have had security agreements with
states for a very long time. Okay, that's fine. Uh,
the landscape has changed, the threat environment has changed. Therefore,
tactics need to change. And as you say, cutting off

(35:16):
the purse strings is definitely one of the things to consider.
I will say, the president does not have unilateral power
to do that. This is a policy that has been
set in place along with Israel, along with Egypt, Jordan.
So there are definitely some there's a lot of red
tape to go through, and in our divide in Congress
right now, I am not certain you know where it

(35:38):
would land, but I completely agree with you in terms
of funding, and the blank check aspect of what it
seems like is a blank check, I'll put it that way,
and right now I think it's not a good look.

Speaker 7 (35:51):
It's definitely not a good look. And at the end
of the day, my job as.

Speaker 10 (35:55):
A security person is to see the world in a
particular way, and and I do. However, I am also
a concerned voter, and I teach at a university where
I'm surrounded by young folks. I am a black woman
with a family who are asking me questions about what
can be done. So I have my own thoughts and feelings.
My family and friends have their own thoughts and feelings.

(36:17):
And so where we are now is that people that
look like us have more of a say and advancing
these policies and changing these policies, because what we are
seeing is that it's not yielding the result for the
intended purpose.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
You talked about the US drone striking Baghdad killing three militants.
They went after again a militia leader linked to the
latest attack on American troops. Of course, we had those
three black soldiers from Georgia who were killed. The responses

(36:53):
never even went off to stop them. That drone from
coming in. So that was a massive failure on the
military's part, and so look, that was going to be
a response. The reality is that this is what Americans do.
You have to make a decision, and was a proportional
response to that. Then you have Republicans who are saying, oh,
this is getting us into a wider war.

Speaker 7 (37:15):
Your thoughts, that is a very unfortunate situation.

Speaker 10 (37:21):
I was actually in Tennessee when I got that news,
traveling with someone who was in a military so it
was a it was a it hit really, really, really hard.
Three young black folks, two in their twenties, one in
their forties, and it was just it's still heartbreaking to
even think about and consider, along with the two Navy
seals that went missing in Somalia, which is to say

(37:43):
that this is causing the loss of American lives already.
And then there were dozens of more people who were
also injured at the air base. And then of course
we retaliated with a unilateral precision strike to kill the
uh to kill their lead. So the conversation right now is, look,
are we slow walking.

Speaker 7 (38:04):
Into a war? What's up with the precision strikes? What
are we doing here?

Speaker 10 (38:09):
The issue is Iran nor the US wants to get
into a war. And I know a lot of people
do not believe that I have heard all the side
of conversation, but I'm here to tell you as a
person who does this stuff every single day, no one
wants to go to war. But what is happening in
the Middle East right now is in many ways unavoidable
for the US to get involved, especially when we're talking

(38:30):
about global maritime trade and we're talking about protecting not
only our own maritime ships but also our partners and allyships.
So right now you have these uh, these retaliate, these
retaliatoria retaliatory exercises.

Speaker 7 (38:45):
That are going on. That the word, the technical word
is proportional responses.

Speaker 10 (38:52):
But in the region, people want the US to respond
a lot stronger because this sort of activity has been
going on for far too long and people in the
region are just simply tired. So they're like, okay, or
is the US, the US partners and allies going to
show up or is it going to be this constant
you know, you strike, we strike back.

Speaker 7 (39:13):
So that's what we are right now. Because no one
wants to go to war.

Speaker 10 (39:16):
No one wants that so when you don't have either
side who wants to go to war, you're going to
have a lot of this back and forth and back
and forth. But the way things are looking, I don't
I don't know if I feel that the back and
forth strike back and forth strikes are being effective, because
they're still happening.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Rec I'll start with you, Uh, you a question for
uh Nola, But well, I also want to ask you
this here. I mean, look, this is the political uh trap. Frankly,
that that that Biden is in, He's his pole. Numbers
are being impacted. You've got significant part of his coalition
they're saying they're not going to vote for him because
of what's happening in this particular war. He's got a

(40:00):
prime minister who's a right winger who doesn't give a
damn about him, hated the guy who he served under
his vice president, he hated nt Yahoo, hated President Barack Obama,
and he would love nothing more than Trump to be
in there. And so he has to make Biden has
to make a decision as to what he is going
to do in this particular issue because frankly, this with

(40:24):
other stuff could cost him the.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
Election absolutely, and that is a huge concern.

Speaker 10 (40:32):
As I sit here as a foreign policy expert, you know,
the election is on my mind. I'm an American, I
have a stake in this. We all have a stake
and what this country is going to look like. And
I tell my students listen, I hear you, I feel you.
At the end of the day, the question you need
to ask yourself is what do you want the country
to look like in twenty five? Do you want the

(40:53):
country to look like some semblance of democracy or do
you want it to completely disappear? Inasmuch asocracy is absolutely flawed,
and I would argue that that word is not even
a word until we get into the late sixties with
civil rights policies and laws. But what's the preference? What

(41:13):
world do you want to live in? Which is what
foreign policy is about. You envision the world that you
want to live in. And I don't want to live
in a trunk world. There is nothing about that that
is appealing to me. So while I sit here as
a professional, I am also a voting American, So I
am very concerned about it. It's something that I talk
about a great deal. Probably a lot of my colleagues

(41:34):
would like for me to probably shut up about it,
but it's real and especially in our community. And you know,
one of the things that I do and my capacity
is I pay close attention to misinformation and disinformation on
social media and how it's impacting black voters. And it
is heavily impacting black voters because they are constantly fed
over and over on social media these horrific images of

(41:56):
these children dying, what's happening in Palestine. It's they're not
paying attention to mainstream media. They're on social media getting
their news. So I am absolutely concerned about how this
is impacting the very good work that the Biden Harris
administration has done.

Speaker 7 (42:14):
And so this is a this is a concern not
just for me, but for a lot of people.

Speaker 6 (42:20):
Racing doctor Haynes, I always get to see this.

Speaker 13 (42:24):
I will save my editorial comments out of respect for
your position and your limitations and what you could speak on.

Speaker 6 (42:32):
But my question to you is the numbers right.

Speaker 13 (42:37):
So I've seen estimates that Hamas is upwards of forty
thousand people fighters terrors, however you want a characters, but
I don't care about that part. But say forty thousand fighters,
even at that number, which is the number that I've
seen Israel even provide IDF that would still constitute less

(42:57):
than two percent of.

Speaker 6 (42:59):
The population of Gaza.

Speaker 13 (43:01):
And I've seen Israel may claims that they've killed nine
thousand Hamas fighters, So that would be remarkable, extraordinary precision
and taken out a third of Hamas's fighters by getting
one hundred percent. Essentially, those numbers would almost constitute one

(43:21):
hundred percent of the men who are not women or
children being killed being Hamas And so I'm just curious
if you're aware of any efforts from the United States
to actually keep, you know, put a number on actually
the number of Hamasque mass fighters that are killed, because
we know it's not nine thousand people.

Speaker 6 (43:39):
There's no way that you managed to have sixty percent
of your.

Speaker 13 (43:44):
Victims are those killed be women and children, But yet
you have one hundred percent accuracy near one hundred percent accuracy,
and the men that you're killing, unless the intention is
to kill women and children as well, don't give a damn.
So I'm just curious if you know of any efforts
by the United States to have any kind of independent
verification or intelligence around that number without giving up classified information.

Speaker 10 (44:05):
Of course, well, I actually honestly don't know. I do
know that there is a UN presence. I do know
that there are some conversations happening around the International Criminal Court.
I honestly do not have a specific answer to your question.
I will say I know transparency is a problem, that.

Speaker 8 (44:27):
Is for sure.

Speaker 7 (44:28):
So I wish that I'm not trying to off with Skate.
I just honestly don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Laura.

Speaker 8 (44:37):
I wonder about you saying that nobody wants war. I mean,
it certainly seems like Benjamin Nanyahu wants war. He's killed
almost thirty thousand people, and I find it. I mean,
just in the last hour of Congress passed an ad
package apparently Ukraine in Israel aid for ninety five billion dollars.

(44:57):
What do you think the endgame for this is, because
I I don't see it like I see this being
a huge calamity. Because from a political, you know side
of this, the thing that is delaying Joseph Biden from
making the decision is the politics of APAK and the
politics of you know, the United States an APAC and

(45:20):
that whole thing, not so much the reality of you know,
twenty eight thousand people being killed after a terrorist attack.
On October seventh, So what do you think the likely
endgame of this is?

Speaker 7 (45:34):
So to clarify, I was not talking about Netanyahu.

Speaker 10 (45:37):
I was talking about US and Iran in terms of
not wanting a war with the US and Iran. Netnyahu
has been very clear about not wanting a war. He
wants a literation. So I want to make that point
very clear. To your second to your second point, what
do I think the endgame is in terms of Ukraine, Israel, Gaza,

(45:58):
the Red Sea, or or.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
All of it?

Speaker 8 (46:02):
Israel? Israel? This moment here where we were watching close
to thirty thousand people after a terrorist attack, obviously Israel's
reaction to a terrible terrorist attack on October seven. They've
now killed close to thirty thousand people. So I wonder
what do you think the endgame of that is Israel,

(46:22):
not Ukraine.

Speaker 10 (46:26):
Global pressure at the global pressure campaign is mounting. More
countries are chiding Israel for what they're doing.

Speaker 7 (46:35):
They're killing innocent people.

Speaker 10 (46:36):
And while yes, Hamas absolutely does build tunnels under civilian
institutions and structures, which is heinous in it of itself,
it doesn't it doesn't give you the right to just
kill people, especially children, so there's another side of the

(46:57):
argument that people in the defense and security world will
make well Hamas are the ones to blame because they
put their own people in that situation.

Speaker 7 (47:06):
So that's one argument to make. But to your.

Speaker 10 (47:08):
Specific question, what do I think the end game is
going to be. I think there's going to be a
global pressure campaign to where Israel is going to have
to at some point stop what they're doing.

Speaker 7 (47:17):
Because it's one thing.

Speaker 6 (47:19):
To be being and bad.

Speaker 10 (47:20):
And you think the US is weak and vulnerable right now,
and you want to push back against the president, you
want to push back against the Secretary of State. Okay,
you know, like I always tell people all the time,
don't bet against the US. And while in many parts
of the you know, the the professional thinkers and analysts
that are dealing with this, it is becoming very clear

(47:42):
that cooperation is not the cooperation and diplomacy is not working.

Speaker 7 (47:47):
So therefore you got to pull out a stick.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Great you, thank you Roland, and it's good to see
you that, Hayes Nola.

Speaker 12 (47:57):
And you can't talk about a lot of this, so
I mean I won't unlike reci it's not editorializing. Israel's
a porized state. Benjamin Ntnyai, who will go down in
history as one of the great mass murderers of the
twenty first century. He told everybody go to Rafa and
the other bombing Rafa in southern Gaysa. He seems to

(48:19):
have struck upon and he's not alone. It's not just
nothing Yahoo. We can they could just blame this on
one bad actor. The Israeli government, against the wishes of
many of its people, seem to have struck upon a
final solution in that ironic which means killed as many
Palestinian as you can and run the rest of them
out of the country. So with that in fact, with
that in mind, what do you think will be the

(48:41):
trigger if you can talk about that that will force
the United States to join just about every country in
the world besides Western Eurasia, Europe and standing against Israel
in its mass murder campaign. Will it be war, because
that's exactly what's going to happen, and Iran is going
to get in this, I mean, they've already said, and

(49:03):
so will it be dragging the United States into a
regional rule? Will it be supply chain with what we
see happening in the Red Sea? And you mentioned being
prepared to talk about that. I don't know if you
have any thoughts on how the prices may go up
here as a result. And finally, the United States, the
citizen real of the United States, which many people are protesting,
but most people are just unplugged.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
They're worried about the Super Bowl. They don't realize that the.

Speaker 12 (49:24):
World stands against Israel at this point. So what would
be the trigger do you think that might just force
the United States to finally abandon their agent in the
Middle East, Israel.

Speaker 10 (49:39):
That is a very complicated question because it is nuanced
and it is layered. It is a reason why the
US is a security partner with Israel. Once upon a
time when Israel was also our security partner, a question
could be posed, are you still our security partner?

Speaker 7 (49:53):
And I think there's enough evidence pointing to that that
they probably are not.

Speaker 10 (49:57):
So where we are right now is truly an inflection point.
As I sit here as a black woman who is
a foreign policy expert. Ten years ago, twenty years ago,
there weren't a whole lot of folks like me out
there talking about these things. But today there are a
lot more people that look like us in this room
who are talking about these things, and what does that mean.

(50:19):
That means you're going to have different conversations around the
policy table. That means you're going to have different perspectives
around the policy table. So we are at an inflection
point right now in the twenty first century as we
face twenty first century security threats and problems and challenges,
so where policy has to catch up to.

Speaker 7 (50:38):
The twenty first century.

Speaker 10 (50:39):
So what we are talking about, we're talking about in
nineteen forty eight, the hope of Israel, what it could be.
You know what it was in the region, the stabilizing
force of democracy in the region.

Speaker 7 (50:51):
Are we still talking about that same state?

Speaker 12 (50:54):
And if we are not that with all due respect,
it was never that the hope of the state was humanity.
Israel was a set the colony was put there for
a purpose. The British did not like the Jews, none
of Europeans like the Jews. The Americans didn't like the Jews.
Israel colin Israel the hope of the region, I think
is mythology.

Speaker 7 (51:12):
Okay, well, we can agree to disagree.

Speaker 10 (51:14):
My only point is course, whatever whatever Israel was to
the United States, it is not today.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Okay, that's important. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Yes, all right, Well we'll see what happens next as
we continue on this path, Doctor de Lah Haynes, we
appreciate it, thanks a bunch, Thank you, folks. Ten years later,
Flint continues to be affected by its water crisis. My
next guest after the break is a young lady who

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has been trying to do her best to raise money
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Speaker 1 (54:27):
All Right, folks, April marks the tenth year anniversary of
the Flint water crisis. A lot of people have been
raising the issues, but probably one of the most visible
folks on this has been Marie Copany goes by little
Miss Flint. She has been She's been covered all over

(54:48):
the place, lots of media attention. She's been out there
on award shows. People have praised her work. She continues
to do her part to get clean water for her
neighbors by raising money for water filters. Every time she
posts one of her tweets saying she ain't hit her goal.
I retweeted trying trying to get her to her goal.

(55:09):
And so there you go, Uh the the post there,
what's the number, y'all? Because I'm looking at it right now.
Uh eight hundred and thirty six thousand, trying to get
to a million bucks. So little Miss Flint joins us,
and so I say, a little bigger Miss Flint. She's

(55:33):
not as little as you see in that photo. You
know you're not come on that he'r that photo you?
How old were you in that photo you posted.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Right on the water foods you're digging with the like,
what's that twelve? I was twelve?

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Yeah, how are you right now?

Speaker 2 (55:48):
I'm sixteen. I trged seventeen this year.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
You ain't the same size?

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Had also also also you said my name wrong?

Speaker 1 (55:58):
What is it Mari?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
You said Marie?

Speaker 22 (56:01):
It's Mari and too, you know. And two I heard
what you said. I am not no short midget. I
am offended.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
No, I didn't not say that. I said you ain't.
I said you ain't little. I said, so you little
bigger miss Flint. That's what I said.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Don't you don't try to Guys like me already know
what you said.

Speaker 19 (56:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
You look bigger. I'm saying you ain't a shorty like
you used to be. Okay, so like a little bigger,
you're probably still short. All right, So let's talk about
talk about uh the So first of all, I had
your last time, so explain the people who don't quite understand, uh,
the water filter that that you have been promoting working on.

Speaker 22 (56:44):
Okay, So basically I partnered with this water filtration company
called hydrobiv and we cooked up some ideas and boom,
I got my very own water filter. And the main
reason why I started doing my water filter was because
I used to do these big, big, big water drives.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I gave out over I gave out over what.

Speaker 22 (57:09):
Yeah, I gave out over one million bottles of water
and you know it was funded on so people weren't
really like being respectful of like the environment because they
were literally like throwing the water bottles like on the ground,
literally wasting it and not also to mention like it's
such a hassard, like the constantly like youthed bottle and
bottle bottle water, like back to back. So that's where

(57:30):
my water filter comes into play because it's like it's
a turn of option. It's like it's way more savor
for the environment and everybody. So it literally installs right
underneath y'all sink and you get Kaleen safe drinking water.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
And yeah, so you're saying, so you're saying with the
with the existing people, they're still trying to get patch
to place whatever, but if they installed this filter, they'll
have clean, clean, clean drinking.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Water down yep.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Uh for the fuss control them. I have the video
or the photo video, the filter photos and whatever goes,
go ahead and show that. So how many filters have
been purchased or you're y'all giving out so far?

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Thousands? My mom doesn't have the exact numbers of it,
like you that.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
I look, lil miss Flint. Now, I asked you the
same question last time, and you gave me the same number.
You had time to prepare to get me a number.
Why are you looking off camera asking your mama again?

Speaker 2 (58:32):
I'm sorry, you know she'd be helping me on this
type of stuff.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
I'm just saying, right, I mean, like, like you know,
six thousand, five hundred and fifty eight. You know, I'm
just saying, you like thousands.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Well, it's you know, it's a lot.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
You know it's a lot, all right, So so thousands
of filters? And again, so how much does the filter cost?
It's free? No, no, no, I know it's free. But
I'm saying, but obviously you have to sit and that
you're raising money. So if you hit a million dollars,
that's gonna pay for how many filters?

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Dang, what's the what's what's the number on that one?
Hold on? She she's looking up the number she's ten with?
How how a cost?

Speaker 22 (59:19):
The filters are one hundred dollars at cost? So if
I was to if I was to hit my was
it like was it the one million dollar goal?

Speaker 2 (59:31):
The thing would be, what did you just say, come on,
do some math? Ten thousand? I'm bad, I'm bad on
mask Okay, I'm only good at science. I'm really only
good at science.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Okay. So uh so, how many people have you have
y'all done a survey or whatever? How many people in Flint?
And first of all, first thing, are these filters only
for people in Flint?

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Oh no, no, no, this is for.

Speaker 22 (59:56):
People that live inside Flint and basically like all around
the state because people like literally all around the country
for real, but like mainly women shipping them like all
acrosss date and to people's like Flint, because it's not
just Flint.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Thousand a watter cursis. America has a water crisis.

Speaker 22 (01:00:10):
It's not talked about it enough, and you know, I
want to really be like the main one to like
talk about it because not that many people know that,
like they have bad water like there think, oh just
because it lives like California, and you know, they're there
won't have like bad water, like I promise you, like
if you like you need to seriously check your water
levels because you like it. It's like you need to

(01:00:31):
take your water levels because you never like you do
not know what you're consuming, Like it may look clean,
but like in reality, it may not be clean. Like
you really got to check those Like that's really serious stuff.
So and like there's a whole bunch of like there's
like a whole bunch of cities that have really really
really bad water crisis. Like let's take no, let's take
Jackson with Jackson sibby, don't say Jackson was sippy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
I ended up I ended up doing a Yeah, I
ended up doing a water drive there.

Speaker 22 (01:00:59):
And also so I gave out some of my filtures
there too, because their water was like like way worse
than flints, like it like it was actually so bad,
like I don't think, like they couldn't even shower, Like
they couldn't shower and side their water. And if they
were to shower with their water, they couldn't like let
it touch their eyes or like their mouth or anything.

(01:01:20):
Like I'm telling you, it was really bad. And I
made a lot of people happy there because I don't.
I don't think they were like properly receiving the help there.
So that's you know, I wanted to help because I
like them people like that's that's what I do. And
nobody deserves bad water, Like nobody deserves to be in
that situation at all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Absolutely. Now, I don't like to get into all these
little silly, little hip hop beefs and all that little stuff,
but I did see where you weighed in with Nicki
Minaj and made the step on back and forth, and
you were like, look when both y'all don't sit here
and support my water versus all back and forth. So

(01:02:02):
did you ever hear back from Nicki Minaj or her
people or make the stallion from her people saying hey,
we'll help you.

Speaker 22 (01:02:12):
Okay, So let's see. So Nikki actually was caught liking
tweets of her of her barbs that were basically hating
on me. She got caught liking comments that were hating
on me, So clearly she knows what's going on. She
knows about me, and you know, instead of he addressing

(01:02:32):
the fact of me and like y'all need to out
packing like this minor, she's liking she's liking these tweets
like that's weird, that's odd, like you're pushing fifty get
over yourselves. But let's see, we never heard we We
never heard back from Meg though, But I'm I'm hoping,
I'm really hoping that I hear back from Meg because

(01:02:54):
I love Meg.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
She's cool and yeah, she's cool, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
So I'm I got the megas from Houston, So I'm
gonna have to make a couple of phone calls to
some people in my hometown because I think you're right.
I believe that listen versus Nicki Minaj and Meg thee
Stallion going back and forth beefing, they should just like
a lot of at least other entertainers should be joining

(01:03:18):
you to help this issue when it comes to clean
water and trying to make it better for folks here.
And so we're gonna try to see how we can
help that situation. My panels. Got some questions for your lawn,
Victoria Burke, your first step for Lil Miss Lot Bigger Flint, Marie.

Speaker 8 (01:03:39):
Marie, how you doing?

Speaker 6 (01:03:41):
Hi?

Speaker 8 (01:03:43):
Do you think that the filter game has gotten easier
as time has gone on, or is there more demand
for the filters than when you started.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
There's there's a there's more demand.

Speaker 22 (01:03:55):
Like at first it was a little bit like at
first it was a little bit easier than like became
like trickier over the time, but it's it's a lot
more demand now.

Speaker 8 (01:04:06):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Thanks Grant, thank you Roland, and thank you Mari.

Speaker 12 (01:04:15):
Question the way, I understand that these filters are good
for three to five years. So any any thoughts on
a structural fix have you been in conversation with the
governor the legislature, I mean, because you know, to take
that burden off of you and everybody trying to raise money,
which we have to do at some point, this thing

(01:04:37):
just has to be fixed fixed.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Any thoughts about that? And thanks?

Speaker 22 (01:04:43):
Well, I mean they have to fix the pipe, and
you know, the pipes here inside Flint actually are not
still fixed.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
It is a whole new year and our pipes are
still not fixed.

Speaker 22 (01:04:54):
And that's like it's a little bit iffy because then
we're slowlygan fakes around. I think it was like it
was like twenty twenty around that time, but then COVID
hit and you know, everything I got like shut down,
so like everything like messed up with that, so they
kind of they literally stopped. And have they been, Like,

(01:05:15):
I don't think they've been recently, like back working on them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
I don't think the city they said they completed the
pipes in December.

Speaker 22 (01:05:22):
Oh well according to according to the city, they said
that they have completed the pipes. But where That's not
what the residents are saying at all. There we saw
bad water. Like why do you think it's okay to
lie like that? Like that's not cool to lie like that?
Like why they're playing it's out our face?

Speaker 8 (01:05:41):
Like why is you playing?

Speaker 6 (01:05:42):
Is that our face?

Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
Right? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Racy? Hi?

Speaker 13 (01:05:48):
Mari Magnetie said what she said and then Nicki Minaj
spiraled for seven days.

Speaker 6 (01:05:55):
But whatever it back and forth.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Okay, both of them hooking up with little miss lot
Bigger Flint.

Speaker 13 (01:06:03):
I agree, I agree, but I talked to correct the
record because Meggie just said what she said and that
was it. Anyways, Mari, what do you think about the
latest news that came out? I mean, obviously it's a
paltry amount, but I'm just curious if you had any
thoughts on the new payments that are coming out of
a lawsuit of fifteen dollars a person in Flint.

Speaker 6 (01:06:21):
As a result of the the lawsuit that was settled.

Speaker 13 (01:06:26):
I don't know if you've heard about that or if
you have any thoughts on that, but I'm curious to
hear your opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Oh ooh uh, who was a tough one. There's no
fault about it. Nobody's seen nobody's seen a dime of
any of that money.

Speaker 22 (01:06:42):
Oh well, apparently nobody has seen any like any dime
of that money at all. So I can't I can't
really give a thought on it because nobody's seen the money,
I think, but only besides besides the lawyers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
But like, where's that money? Like, like where is it?

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Trust me? We had a conversation last night about that
on the show, and we have been asking the very
same question. All right, pull the go fund me up
one more time, folks, please. This is the gofund me,
the Little Miss Flint Clean Water Fund. The goal is
to reach one million dollars. So far, twenty four thousand

(01:07:26):
people have contributed eight hundred and thirty six thousand, eight
hundred and thirty five dollars to this effort. And so,
as I said, so all y'all should do also when
you're seeing these, when you're seeing the tweets and she's
talking about hitting the goal. Whatever. Look, it don't hurt

(01:07:48):
y'all to simply hit a retweet to share it with people.
Hopefully that will encourage them to also give to the project.
Because look, we gotta recognize it's a lot of people
out here who literally cannot afford, who cannot afford a

(01:08:08):
water filter and this is absolutely huge, and so we
please do so. And so Mari, good to see you
keep keep doing it. And I'm going to my artists
in the text, So I'm gonna try to connect with
some folks so we can uh get to Meg the Stallion.
And then of course and NICKI come on, don't don't

(01:08:30):
be don't be liking the haters who are talking. And
you're right, use those massive followings for good and so
hopefully we can get to both of them. So I'm
gonna hit some music friends I know to see who
knows both of them? Uh, and yeah, I think Meg
and NICKI wouldn't it be great if little miss Flint,
the one who can, who can broke, broke the piece

(01:08:54):
and bring them together to do a p s A
calling for folks to give to the filters. That's called
using your black girl, magic powers for good as opposed
to bickering back and forth.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Oh my goodness, no like, thank you.

Speaker 22 (01:09:11):
Also, I apologize for what I said about Nicki Minaj
a few minutes ago.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Barbes, if you have seen this, please don't attack me.
I don't want to get attacked again.

Speaker 22 (01:09:20):
Okay, I apologize for saying that you all, Lord and
Savior is pushing fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
I deeply apologize. Please do don't attack me.

Speaker 22 (01:09:28):
I didn't do anything, Okay, I mean I probably just
say this some facts for real, but like, please do
not come after me. I am a good person, Okay,
I A'm a good person at heart.

Speaker 13 (01:09:40):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
First, you know, I mean she fought in one, but
hell is she close to the fifty? That she is
the thirty? Oh all right, bar were.

Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
Forty is now pushing fifty? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Body one is closer the fifty, then there's the thirty. Listen.

Speaker 6 (01:09:58):
It is ain't nobody trying to beat Math?

Speaker 8 (01:10:01):
Is math?

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
All right, Well appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
You welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Oh man, all right, I always glad to have her
on the show. All right, folks covering up next, special prosecutor.
It's a lot we got y'all. We got to deal
with Scotus and the Colorado stuff. We got to deal
with this crazy ass Republican special prosecutor who can't find

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media talking about how Biden is old, can't remember stuff.
And Capitol Hill today they had a hearing dealing with
Big Pharma and the drug crisis. But I'm gonna tell
y'all how Big farm also ain't spending no money with
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Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
All right now, y'all know I ain't never had a
problem calling out these racist conservatives. You got Steven Miller,
that white nationalist UH today sending a letter to the
EEOC saying that the Rooney rule in the NFL violates
the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act. You got Ed

(01:13:53):
Bloom attacking the Fearless Fund trying to invoke the eighteen
sixty six Civil Rights Act. So they're trying to use
civil rights acts that were actually passed for black people
now against black people, saying it discriminates against white people. Yeah. Right,
then you got this little punk. I mean, one of
the dumbest people, one of the most lightweight individuals you've

(01:14:16):
ever seen. Charlie Kirk college dropout, Leed's Turning Point USA.
A lot of racests have come through Turning Point USA,
so their history is very well. So he's been attacking
Doctor King. He goes on the show with Sambo himself,
Jason Whitlock as they trash Doctor King. And then Charlie

(01:14:39):
has been going around talking about how we should not
be able to one of the greatest mistakes in history
was the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act. And so
my next guest, Pastor Darryl Scott, he has been on
the war path against this little pump. He's been sitting
here blasting him left and right. And he also revealed

(01:15:05):
on social media the other day of a quite interesting,
a quite interesting story, a very interesting story. Uh in
that there was stated in the White House, but before
I played that, there's this other, this just flat out
racist named Nick Fintest. He was the one who had
lunch with Donald Trump and mar Largo with Kanye West.

(01:15:27):
And so Nick Fintest, I mean, just straight up he's
a racist. He's a racist. So he dropped this video
praising Charlie Kirk and saying welcome to the white supremacist club.
Watch this.

Speaker 24 (01:15:38):
Charlie Kirk, as we know, has become a white supremacist,
and that's a huge victory.

Speaker 17 (01:15:44):
Buddy remains a he made, he remains Jew love. He
remains ah a Jew lover, and.

Speaker 24 (01:15:53):
That not I don't use language like that, you know,
but he is an israel show like Charlie Kirk has
become white nationalist hardcore. But it remains chill a shill
to the Jews in Israel. And I've said that for
a long time. But if pasobic is coming out swinging

(01:16:14):
on both fronts, it's like, hey, if turning Point would
just stop banning gropers from their conferences, maybe we could
work together. If they would just stop bad mouthing me
and just reintegrate the gropers into the machine, that would
be a win for everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
So, Pastor Darrow Scott, uh, if a race is like
Nick wint As is saying, hey, welcome to the Welcome
to the club, sounds like all your criticism with Charlie
Kirk been on point.

Speaker 17 (01:16:46):
Hey, man, first ball, let me say you got one
fact wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
What's that He's not.

Speaker 17 (01:16:51):
He's not a college dropout. He's a junior college dropout.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Well no, no, no, junior collegists are collegists. But technically, yes,
you're correct, Go ahead.

Speaker 17 (01:17:06):
So basically he has a high school diploma. Well, we
have to check, but I don't know what his GDA
was either.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
Well, but it's no different than the person who he hired,
Candace Owns, who also dropped out. So hey, they got
something in common.

Speaker 21 (01:17:21):
Uh, but you you've been I got, I got, I
got a new nickname for Canda's owners.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
D e I?

Speaker 17 (01:17:30):
Because she is a diversity higher if there ever was
a diversity higher.

Speaker 21 (01:17:34):
Well, yeah, no, she has no educating No, she does
not have a degree in broadcast journalism. She did not
take political science. She has no prior history of television.
Uh uh experience anything like that. But they gave her
a job on The Daily Wire, was a TV talk show.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
So I call her d e I.

Speaker 17 (01:17:52):
She's supposed to child for a diversity for an inclusion.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Well, uh, no, mitigated to it, because actually people people
with d I, they actually have real qualifications. She doesn't.

Speaker 17 (01:18:05):
No, No, I'm gonna put it this way. Then then
I'm gonna say what they say.

Speaker 21 (01:18:09):
They try to insinuate people that are recipients of d
I are unqualified, right if anybody's recipient, if anybody's unqualified
as people.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
Like her, absolutely absolutely. First of all, control room, do
this here alert President Joe Biden plans on speaking for
the diplomatic room at seven forty five. So please be
on the lookout for that live feed from the White House.
That's in about twelve minutes. So please let's look for that.
The thing here is usee something. The other day what

(01:18:37):
there was a meeting at the White House and Charlie
Kirk told Trump just go ahead.

Speaker 17 (01:18:42):
No, no, no, he didn't tell Trump.

Speaker 21 (01:18:44):
So we were at we were in the Navy mess
mess room the cafeteria at the White House. Was myself,
my business parn of Kareem Land there and several other
people were there.

Speaker 17 (01:18:54):
Two other black people were there and several white people.

Speaker 21 (01:18:57):
And we were discussing twenty one outreach to different demographics.

Speaker 17 (01:19:03):
And we talked about the.

Speaker 21 (01:19:05):
Evangelicals, we talked about suburban white women, we talked about
gun owners. And then when they got the black people,
Charlie Kirk said, I think Trump should just tell black
people anything, just lie to him, he'd.

Speaker 17 (01:19:16):
Say anything, it don't matter. My business partner reaches up,
Can we cuss on this show?

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's called business partner said.

Speaker 21 (01:19:23):
Man, that's the stupidest shit I ever heard in my life.
Then I said, Charlie, say something like that again. I'm
knocked the shit out of you, white boy.

Speaker 17 (01:19:30):
And so he turned red and.

Speaker 25 (01:19:32):
Said, well, I'm just saying.

Speaker 21 (01:19:33):
I said, mut you never say no stupid shit like
that in front of me again. And we checked them real,
real hard. But that showed me right there the content
of his heart to even say something like that. Trump
should just tell black people anything like to him, it
don't matter, just say anything.

Speaker 17 (01:19:47):
Well, no, Trump wasn't in the room when that happened.
Trump was not there.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Well, I mean it's kind of true. He did do
some line of black people, but.

Speaker 17 (01:19:55):
Every politician, lot of everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
Yeah, but you know, yeah, but you know, your boy
lied a lit more than a.

Speaker 17 (01:20:00):
Whole live about. What do you live about? What do
you live about?

Speaker 7 (01:20:04):
That?

Speaker 21 (01:20:04):
Ain't that ain't the topic where we visit this because
I'm gonna stay on Charlie Yah, Charlie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
Kirk, Yeah, I don't want to this be marked.

Speaker 17 (01:20:12):
And I said, you don't have much time because you're
going to Joe I wanted to.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
I don't want I don't want this to be Mark
Fisher two point oh. So I'm I'm I'm gonna save
I'm gonna save you.

Speaker 17 (01:20:22):
Smoke you want to smoke?

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Now, you're not not not damn Now, you know dogs,
you know dog on well, you know dog well.

Speaker 17 (01:20:30):
You don't want to smoke.

Speaker 25 (01:20:31):
But we ain't gonna call that now.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
No dog when I just need to deal to chase
the rat.

Speaker 17 (01:20:37):
When we are finally on, we are This is history man.

Speaker 25 (01:20:42):
You on the same side.

Speaker 17 (01:20:44):
This is a racist piece of ship.

Speaker 25 (01:20:45):
I got Now, we on the same side right here.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
This is history man, I got you because when I
get down with you, you be a deacon.

Speaker 25 (01:20:51):
All right, this black history. We are making black history
right now.

Speaker 17 (01:20:56):
So mind death out on the same side of the top.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
So here's the question. You've been calling him out. But look,
these conservatives they're not gonna stop going to his conferences.
They're gonna keep embracing him, and so are they is
the Republican Are they gonna cut ties with Charlie Kirk
because of his rampant racism? And it's very clear, let
me say this.

Speaker 21 (01:21:19):
A number of high ranking people in the Republican Party
are definitely on my side in this conflict, and it's
something that they feel is long overdue.

Speaker 17 (01:21:34):
Trying to kurt what he does. He says what he says.

Speaker 21 (01:21:37):
Unchallenged, and he wait a few days and it'll be
a little bit of dust up.

Speaker 17 (01:21:40):
On social media and he'll ignore it and let it
go away. But I'm not the one. I'm not like that.
That's not me. I'm not I'm sick of it.

Speaker 21 (01:21:48):
I'm sick of this shit, and so as a result,
I don't plan on stopping any time soon.

Speaker 17 (01:21:53):
See here's the thing. This is the money making opportunity
for him, you know, and I know that right now
in a man because there is.

Speaker 21 (01:22:00):
Not a lot of hostile racial tension between blacks and whites.

Speaker 17 (01:22:05):
We're not rioting against.

Speaker 21 (01:22:06):
Each other, we're not picking at each other, we're not
openly hostile. You know, people have their own personal feelings,
but there's not a lot of racial tension. He probably
made more off Black Lives Matter protests than Black Lives
Matter does because when he says I need to save America.
In only to save America, I have to be the
hero for me to be a hero, there has to
be a villain. So he hides his racism behind CRT,

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behind DEEI, and he makes the black man be the villain.
He's creating, he's perpetuating this racial divide. He's making all
white people look at black people with suspicion.

Speaker 17 (01:22:37):
And then Charlie can stop it. Charlie can save it
if you give me money. And so it's all a
part of this hustle. But ain't nobody going for that
bull crap racy?

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
You got a question you want to ask a question, Yes.

Speaker 13 (01:22:50):
Pastor Scott, respectfully, I'm curious with the Republican parties turned
to naked white nationalism? Is this speaking out against Charlie
Kirk more about presentation for your role? Because as far
as I understand, you're still on the Trump train for
twenty twenty four. Right, So obviously, if they don't need
black people for Trump, if they have the Charlie Kirks
and the Canvas Owens who is black to be fair,

(01:23:12):
and the Nick went tests that are gaining increasing power
in the Republican Party.

Speaker 21 (01:23:17):
All right, First of all, the Republican Party is not
shifting to white nationalism.

Speaker 13 (01:23:21):
The majority of it I said, it's embracing naked white nationalism.

Speaker 17 (01:23:26):
No it's not you, No, no, what's happening. I think
I'm revealing to them some aspects that are.

Speaker 21 (01:23:34):
Causing them to think in ways they're don't think before it. See,
once again they're masking their racism behind political terms, and
so they're making DEI on issue, and they're making c
I T a issue when it's reality, it's simple racism.
Let me say this about the Nick went Test. I
talked to President Trump about the Nick fo went Ts issue.

Speaker 17 (01:23:51):
He didn't know that. Can Kanye called him from the
car and was coming in meet.

Speaker 25 (01:23:56):
He said that can I bring my can I bring.

Speaker 17 (01:23:58):
My friend in?

Speaker 21 (01:23:59):
And once Trump didn't know who the guy was there
to tell him, make it this guy here, he's a
white and white nationalist.

Speaker 17 (01:24:05):
But that's what happened right there.

Speaker 6 (01:24:07):
He didn't know it.

Speaker 25 (01:24:08):
Kanye did that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Well if you let folk like well, first of all,
any real uh, any real high ranking official has a
vetting process and they wouldn't have allowed either one of
them to even walk into the doors. So frankly, no, no,
this is my alagos.

Speaker 17 (01:24:29):
That's not the white No, no, no, no, no, no, I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
Take there there, there there. I'll take a minute. There there,
wait a minute. This is my whole point. That's my point.
It's called a vetting process. I have a vetting process.
If I have a vetting process, Trump should have one.
And if he will allow anybody just to roll up
next to him not knowing who they are, that's a

(01:24:52):
person I don't want in the Oval office.

Speaker 21 (01:24:54):
If you no, no, no, no, no no no, because
you have to understand, and you and I both are
aware of this, that's friend to business.

Speaker 17 (01:25:02):
He has a confidence in me.

Speaker 21 (01:25:03):
No, I've taken people down there that he didn't know,
but his trust in me says, you're not going to
bring anybody side with took.

Speaker 25 (01:25:13):
But when I got there, I said, I.

Speaker 17 (01:25:15):
Got my friend with me. He says he cool with you, okay,
And you recognize even on the streets.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Even My point is if you put your trust in Kanye,
then I questioned your common sense. Lauren Victoria, you ain't
been back down the Lanya hasn't been back Lawn Victoria.

Speaker 8 (01:25:32):
Burke your question, U, Pastor Scott, how you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
So?

Speaker 8 (01:25:36):
I got I gotta just ask you. I mean, don't
you think that the Republican Party when we see people
like Steve Bannon and Steve Miller in the White House
and senior roles. Don't you think the ship has sailed
on the question of whether white supremacists are part of
Trump's circle and that Trump does court these people, I

(01:25:57):
mean he is looking for their support. He does seemed
to be indicating we didn't see it after Charlottesville. We
didn't see it after the attack on the Capitol where
we saw the Proud Boys at the attack of the Capitol, Like,
doesn't that make you really nervous that Trump doesn't call
these people out like you're calling out Charlie Kirk right now?

Speaker 17 (01:26:15):
Well, I say this much. Steve Benden is a friend
of mine.

Speaker 21 (01:26:19):
He's a good friend of mine, and all this white
supremacist talk about him, I've never seen it.

Speaker 17 (01:26:24):
He and I have been together in public, in private,
I don't know about it.

Speaker 21 (01:26:29):
If I saw it blatant like Charlie Kirk, I call
it out. I don't know Steve Miller like that, and
I haven't researched him like that. I have a relationship
with the Trump We go back a long time. We
go back almost twelve years. He's my friend.

Speaker 17 (01:26:45):
He ran for president. I roll with my friend. If
he the loss, I rolled with him. He goes away,
I go away with him. I wan, what do he
want us to do about it?

Speaker 21 (01:26:54):
But I will say this, the Republican Party, bio luge,
is not the racist entergy. They're no more white supremacists
in the republic Party then there are black supremacists in
the Democrat Party. They're no my white nationalist in the
Republican Party as they are black nationalism in the Democrat Party.
I'm telling you it's public us speak. But the average
Republican it's not a racist.

Speaker 19 (01:27:15):
I know that.

Speaker 25 (01:27:16):
Well, people on an individual pass, I don't look at
people on the collective.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Well, the average Republican may not be a racist, but
there's sure with a lot of racist who were fired
from the administration and they were hired in the first place.
Greg carry your question.

Speaker 12 (01:27:28):
Thank you Roland, and thank you Reesie for trying to
get a brother a chance to say, I'm basically just
in this for you know, some economic opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
And thank you Lauren for walking in through the history.

Speaker 12 (01:27:39):
I just got a three word question, brother, brother Scott,
are you serious about what?

Speaker 6 (01:27:47):
Come on?

Speaker 17 (01:27:48):
Don't come to me with the bullshit I'm on the
side of that because I want to be over here.

Speaker 21 (01:27:56):
I'm over here because I want to be over here,
and it ain't it ain't nobody else's business why I'm
on this side.

Speaker 17 (01:28:02):
It's my business.

Speaker 25 (01:28:03):
It's a choice I made. I'm sixty five years old.

Speaker 6 (01:28:05):
I do what I want to do.

Speaker 17 (01:28:07):
I rolle with what I wanna roll with.

Speaker 6 (01:28:09):
You say that racist?

Speaker 12 (01:28:10):
I said that ain't racist now, But so I suppose
you I have a follow up question, then I'll.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
Tell you what Wait wait, wait, way incident of racism
that you have, I can pointed toe Biden to say words.

Speaker 17 (01:28:23):
Let you over there with him.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Once. Second, First of all, Greg car is not with him,
So you're wrong, Greg Carr. No, no, no, no, no no,
I'm telling me. I'm telling them now hold on, now,
hold on, I'm telling you what Greg is. Greg your
second question, go ahead.

Speaker 12 (01:28:40):
Thank you, Roland. My mom will say the hit dog hollars.
So my second question is this, if it's just your business,
why are you out here talking publicly.

Speaker 25 (01:28:50):
Because I won't to Why you won't hear talking to
me because.

Speaker 12 (01:28:54):
You won't do well At this point, I'm talking with
you because I want to make very sure that everybody
who is listening to you is very clear that they
probably shouldn't be listening to you on this issue.

Speaker 6 (01:29:04):
But then don't listen.

Speaker 25 (01:29:05):
There whoever don't want to listen, don't listen. What is
the problem. You came over here to talk to me.
I didn't go looking for you. You came looking for me.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
Yeah, well, thank you.

Speaker 25 (01:29:14):
Right, So I'm not being important enough that you want
to hear what I got to say.

Speaker 17 (01:29:19):
I ain't important enough for you?

Speaker 25 (01:29:20):
Then what I got to say? Why are you over here?

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
Thank you? Brother?

Speaker 6 (01:29:24):
But we're here everything you you're the new person and.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
No, no, I've been. You're the visitors.

Speaker 6 (01:29:34):
President, different congrego. You said a different child about.

Speaker 17 (01:29:37):
Being I know you know I'm not the new person
because I'm not you know who.

Speaker 25 (01:29:42):
I don't know who you.

Speaker 14 (01:29:45):
Is.

Speaker 7 (01:29:45):
I don't know y'all.

Speaker 25 (01:29:48):
I don't know y'all.

Speaker 6 (01:29:49):
But you're a visitor. We didn't come for you. We
didn't come looking for you.

Speaker 25 (01:29:52):
We're everybody with me, So don't get on him.

Speaker 17 (01:29:57):
That may happen. The third, try to calm me about
the choices I'm making, my night clown.

Speaker 6 (01:30:03):
We asked you a question every Thursday because what we
do every third.

Speaker 26 (01:30:08):
Don't clown it, don't know it looks an idea for
the clown. We've been very nice.

Speaker 3 (01:30:14):
Definitely the boy, well, I can clown too.

Speaker 17 (01:30:16):
So all want to cut down here we have a
clown show. Let's have one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Here's a deal.

Speaker 5 (01:30:21):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
It is seven forty five. We're waiting to go out
to the White House. Uh, Darryl. I will continue to see.

Speaker 24 (01:30:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
I'll continue to see how Charlie Kirk responds to you.
And let's see if Republicans actually cut ties with him.
I don't you say they will. I don't think so.

Speaker 17 (01:30:37):
I don't know if they will or won't.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
They won't.

Speaker 17 (01:30:39):
I didn't say they will.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
I will see they won't. They won't. See if the
track record it is the same, they gonna embrace him.

Speaker 17 (01:30:46):
One thing, I tell you one thing, he'll learn how
the st F you. I tell you that much.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
Well, don't be surprised if Trump still goes to his conference.
We'll see, all right, thanks a box, folks. Are we
got to know that the President Biden was going to
be speaking at seven forty five. First of all, some
of y'all might be wondering why we started late today.
Go to my iPad please sow House Democratic Caucus had

(01:31:12):
their meetings at the Landsdown Resort. I actually actually lived
here there, So the damn cops had us hemmed up
waiting for Biden to come out of his meeting. Traffic
was backed up some two miles on the highway there.
So that's why we started tonight's show fifteen minutes late.

(01:31:36):
We got to notice a while ago that this is
this unscheduled announcement from President Biden speaking in the diplomatic room.
It has been quite a busy day. The special prosecutor,
the Republican special prosecutor, announced that he didn't have enough
to charge Biden in this document's case. But what he did, recie.

(01:31:58):
He came out with this statement that says that cast
out on the cognitive ability, called him elderly, and basically
every he did exactly what he wanted to do. He
couldn't charge him. And all these mainstream people are now
running with the story that about this old feeble can't remember,
and they're seizing upon that. And people will listening to

(01:32:19):
Merrick Garland, why they hell would you appoint a right
wing special prosecutor and who didn't file any charges. But
it's now leaning into the one area the people have
been criticizing Biden.

Speaker 8 (01:32:33):
Because you're an idiot, that's why. Because Merrick Garland is
a disaster. Merrick Garland's been a disaster from day one, okay,
And Merrick Garland should have never been in this position.
The way we got Merrick Garland is that Barack Obama
wanted to appease Mitch McConnell, which was dumb, and then
now everybody felt sorry for Merrick Garland, so they put
him in the ag position when it should have been

(01:32:55):
Doug Jones or Andrew Cuomo or Javier Basera. And Merrick
Garland has been an absolute, unmitigated disaster. He's a mediocre
lawyer with no cahones. That's who he is. And you
want to talk about the wrong person showing up at
the wrong time in history, that would be Merrick Garland.

(01:33:15):
He seems to have absolutely he's oblivious to the idea
that our democracy is on the line and that he's
a key player in this moment. And he's been terrible
from the very beginning. So yeah, how we got to
the special prosecutor who's laying out all this nonsense about
Joe Biden's cognitive abilities or not. Is Merrick Garland. Merrick

(01:33:36):
Garland is the reason he didn't see this report before
it went out, By the way, he didn't have any
opinion of what was being written. The guy is an
absolute disaster. And I don't know how he stays in there.
I don't know why the White House counsel who's married
to Anita Done. Anita Done is supposed to be such
a guru when it comes to communications strategy. Why haven't
they figured out how to get rid of Merrick Garland.

(01:33:56):
There's plenty of attorneys in Washington, DC, So I am,
I am. You know, I wish Monique Presley was here
tonight because she sticks up for Merrick Garland. So we
gotta I gotta talk to Monique about this. But every
time he comes up, he is a disaster, and he's
been a disaster from day one. The Capitol got attack
that took him forever to uh to prosecute anybody, uh,

(01:34:16):
and that was after Benny's committee. America Garland is an airhead.
I mean, what is so great about this guy? And
here we go again with yet another thing that's connected
to the failure of Merrick Garland.

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
Well, I wanted to go to recy there. But I
think Lauren wanted to get a lot off what ches first.

Speaker 13 (01:34:35):
Yeah, I appreciate, go ahead, She's okay more now, but
but the reality is that she's one hundred percent right.

Speaker 6 (01:34:47):
Every single appointee of Trump was laser.

Speaker 13 (01:34:52):
Like in precision and being completely a right wing hack job,
political hack that was going to do the bidding of
Donald Trump.

Speaker 6 (01:34:59):
And so the idea that Merrick Garland used this person as.

Speaker 13 (01:35:05):
A special prosecutor to to look after a case for
Biden which should have just been a non started from
the beginning.

Speaker 6 (01:35:13):
It's ridiculous, and this is a political weapon.

Speaker 13 (01:35:17):
And of course the media who wants to rat race,
media who wants something exciting to get on Biden, a
media who has been driving home this narrative about buying,
being old and unfit, are seizing on this.

Speaker 6 (01:35:29):
But the reality is we.

Speaker 26 (01:35:30):
All know that Joe is oh okay, he's all he
walked a little slower, we talk a little slower. But
the reality is, I'm not looking at the fact that,
you know whatever, this person who's a trumple point, he
is saying, I'm looking at my bank account, I'm looking
at how my family is doing, and I'm looking at
the other motherfucker on the side, on the other side,
who's facing notty something counts.

Speaker 6 (01:35:51):
Nobody not doing you Phillips to gout. One percent is
jumping in.

Speaker 26 (01:35:55):
And so if Joe does become incapacitated, I'm sure somebody
around him.

Speaker 6 (01:36:00):
Maybe they will, maybe they won't, will step aside.

Speaker 13 (01:36:02):
If not, he'll Olympus asked to the mother fucking battlet
box when and he can step aside as Vice President
Kamala Harris be the president. That's what they're really scared
of more than anything. It ain't even that they think
that Joe was too olda mentally incommdate. They scared of
something happening to him and Vice President Kamala Harris taking
the reins.

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
Greg Carr, Yeah, I'm just listening.

Speaker 12 (01:36:23):
And the lady, both of y'all laid it out so beautifully,
and Lauren, you're right, Mary Garland, and then receive you're
right that the politics of it are very difficult. It's
in moments like this that we have to remind ourselves.
At least it might be useful to remind ourselves that
there are policy differences between the Republicans and Democrats and
their personality differences, and I don't think anybody can say

(01:36:45):
with a straight face that the Republican Party is anything,
well other than Daryl Scott, perhaps that the Republican Party
is the home of white nationalism. But it's also very
painful for some people, not for me necessarily to say,
not for me at all, really that there is no
difference between the Democrat and Republican Party when it comes
to the larger issues. This isn't about Jews and Muslims,

(01:37:08):
this isn't about Arabs and Jews and Israel, not primarily.
Nola was right, and she knows this, including some of
those confidential briefings she's been in. It's about oil and
natural gas, it's about water rights, it's about preventing geopolitical
shifts that have to do with non white countries that
are now forming their own alliances and a multi polar world,

(01:37:31):
and all those things you get played in. But as
that relates to Joe Biden, you know, when it comes
to foreign policies, really not much of a difference between
Republicans and Democrats. And Joe Biden is a soft white nationalist,
as is generally the Democratic Party. They're not racist in
the hardcore individual sense, and many of them love black people.
Joe Biden, for example, was loved at least didn't dislike

(01:37:54):
Clarence Thomas enough to put him on us when he
was a Chief of Judiciary Committee, and black people, particularly
black women, screaming to high hell like stop him because
you have the power, but he didn't. I'm saying all
that to say this. Biden may be going to the
podium now because his hand is being forced by shifting
geopolitics and by domestic opinion. As Nola said, he gave

(01:38:20):
his enemies a weapon because Joe Biden seems to think
we live in a country.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
We don't.

Speaker 12 (01:38:24):
We live in a state with a lot of different actors,
and there is no civility, there are no rules. We
saw that today in the oral arguments at the Supreme Court,
when the Supreme Court is twisting itself into knots to
do something that they probably should do and Krook raise theory.
They call it legal indeterminacy. There's a way to get
to whatever result you want. They argue politics today at

(01:38:46):
the Supreme Court. Let's be very clear about that. And
I must say that I kind of sympathize with them
because if you let one state put somebody off the ballot,
then the other ones, as Alito said today, might take
somebody else. Sam Alito issued a threat today at the
Supreme Court to the Democratic Party. Basically, he said, if
you take Trump off the ballot, and somebody's gonna put
Biden off the ballot, of being insurrectionists.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
And I'm saying.

Speaker 12 (01:39:06):
What I'm saying is this thing is spinning out of control.
Joe Biden has a decision to make now. Even as
people at his party, whether it be Gavin Newsom or
the governor of Michigan with Mary or others, might be
thinking that he might not make it to as reci said,
he's limping too, but maybe he doesn't make it to
the general election in November. He's got a decision to make.

(01:39:27):
You're going to have to do something that very few
US presidents have had to do. You're gonna have to
step up and say something that's going to be deeply unpopular.
It's not going to be morals or his moral anchor
to drive him. Because he said if he was Jewish,
he'd being a Zionist. He's already morally compromised. This is
about real politic at this point. You're going to lose

(01:39:47):
this election, sir, and your friend over there in Israel,
whatever economic and strategic interests that you're propping up, as
every president does, including Barack Obama, I don't know why.
And then y'ah who didn't like him, Oh yes, I do.
Then yeah, who's a racist? But he wasn't ever going
to do anything to not back you up. Well, you know,
whatever interest you have, this man getting ready trigger a

(01:40:09):
regional war. And now you then gaze through Mary Garland
them the knife to cut your throat. Now they're saying
you're stupid and sena al and you don't remember when
your son died, and you can't remember what year it
is and when you were vice president. And as you
come in apart like tissue paper, your friend getting ready
to trigger a regional war that could spiral out of
control and throw the whole globe into problems, particularly if

(01:40:32):
Iran is nuclear. So you might have to step in
front of a podium today and draw a line. I
guess we'll all see in a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
That is the case again, folks. We got the knowers
from the White House about President Biden speaking to the
nation at seven forty five from the diplomatic room, no
idea exactly what he is going to be talking about.
It's now seven point fifty five, and so they're ten
minutes past that deadline. So we are waiting uh to

(01:41:04):
uh see exactly exactly what's going on here. Uh not
quite not quite sure uh what's going on here, And
so we're waiting for that to come through. Earlier today
you also had, of course, Uh, now we've just got
so there's gonna be a two minute warning. So in

(01:41:25):
two minutes we'll be going live to the White House,
going and put that up in a two box, shall uh,
and so so I can have that up again. A
lot of things that are going on as we speak,
a whole lot of things that are going on. Uh,
you've got of course, Uh, we'll see here, let's see here.

(01:41:48):
Uh you got this again, report coming out talking about
uh that he's not being charged, the document's case questioning
his cognitive abilities playing into the attacks that Republicans have
been making on him. Also concerns by a lot of
Democrats as well because of his age being eighty two
years old. Remember he was elected at seventy eight, and

(01:42:10):
so it's always interesting these people keep talking about they
don't like his age. I'm going you elected somebody at
seventy eight in two thousand and twenty, did you not
think he was gonna be running again. The last president
not to run for reelection was President Lynnon Bangs Johnson,
and he didn't run because of Vietnam and the attacks
that were upon him. That's why he didn't run. And

(01:42:33):
so he was scared of actually losing after that one
at first primary, and he was scared that Robert Kennedy sender,
Robert Kennedy was in the race, and so that's why
he chose not to seek re election. So you don't
have folks who run for president one time, then go ahead.
I'm just gonna go ahead and give this thing up.
Even though there been a significant number of policy wins

(01:42:55):
by this administration, whether it's about the chips at whether
we're talking about the student loan debt we're talking, whether
we're talking about the infrastructure bill, all these different things
that have happened, Frankly, the administration has not done a
good enough job of actually messaging their wins, uh, and
so they struggle in that regard. His polling numbers are

(01:43:16):
also impacted by what's happening in Israel, Gaza. A lot
of Democratic voters, young voters disapprove of his full throw
of support of Israel. That all plays a part of
this as well. He's still running against an extremely weak
candidate in Donald Trump. And so what we are looking
at right now is a very tenuous situation that sits

(01:43:39):
before us. And again not quite sure what we're going
to hear from the President. It's not like economic numbers.
Those those will come out again. Earlier today he spoke
to the House Democratic Caucus out in Lansdown Resort in Lansdown, Virginia,
in Leesburg, Virginia. And look, this could be about the
border bill, as Lauren said, there was a movement when

(01:44:03):
it came to a bill dealing with Ukraine in Israel.
But they Republicans have fought him on the border as well.
And so again we all wait of the President shortly
to step on out here we go, his President, Joe Biden.

Speaker 14 (01:44:20):
Let me say a few things before I take you questions.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
As you know, the.

Speaker 14 (01:44:25):
Special Councils releases find you today about their look into
my handlead of classified documents.

Speaker 25 (01:44:33):
I was pleased to see he.

Speaker 14 (01:44:34):
Reached the firm conclusion that no charges should be brought
against me in this case. This was an exhaustive investigation
going back more than forty years, even in the nineteen
seventies when I was still a new United States Senator,
and the Special Council acknowledged I cooperated completely. I did

(01:44:55):
not throw up any roadblocks. I sought no delays. In fact,
I was so armed to give the Special Counsel what
he needed I went forward with a five hour in
person five hour in person interview over two days on
October the eighth and ninth of last year, even though
Israel had just been attacked by Hamas on the seventh
and I was very occupied, it was in the middle

(01:45:16):
of handling an international crisis. I was especially pleased to
see Special Counsel make clear the stark distinction and difference
between this case and mister Trump's case. Special Counsel wrote,
and I quote, several material distinctions between mister Trump's case
and mister Biden's are clear, continuing to quote. Most notably,

(01:45:37):
after giving multiple chances to return classified documents to avoid prosecution,
mister Trump allegedly did the opposite. According to the indictment,
he not only refused to return the documents for many months.
He also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence
and then to lie about it. In contrast, we wanted
to say mister Biden turned in classified documents to the

(01:46:00):
National Archives and the Department of Justice, consented to the
search of multiple locations, including his home, sat for a
voluntary interview, and in other ways cooperated with the investigation.

Speaker 17 (01:46:10):
End of quote.

Speaker 14 (01:46:12):
I've seen the headlines since the report was released about
my wilful retention of documents. These assertion is not only misleading,
they're just playing wrong. On page two fifteen, if you
had a chance, I know it's a long it's a
think document. On page two fifteen, the report of the
Special Council found the exact opposite. Here's what he wrote.

(01:46:32):
There is, in fact a shortage of evidence that I
willfully retained classified materials related to Afghanistan. On page twelve,
the Special Council also wrote, for another documents, the decision
to decline criminal charges was straight forward. The evidence suggests
that mister Biden did not wilfully retain these documents. The

(01:46:52):
evidence said I did not wilfully retain these documents. In addition,
I know there's some attention paid to some line in
the report about my recollection of events. There's even reference
that I don't remember when my son died. How in
the hell dare he raise that? Frankly, when I was

(01:47:13):
asked the question, I thought to myself, wasn't any of
their damn business. Let me tell you something. Some of
you have come and I wear since the day he died.
Every single day the rosary he got from our lady.
Of every Memorial Day we hold a service remembering him,

(01:47:33):
attended by friends and family and the people who loved him.
I don't need anyone. I don't need anyone remind me
when he passed away, passed away. Simple truth is I
sat for a five hour interview or two days of
events going back forty years. At the same time I
was managing international crisis. Their task was to make a

(01:47:54):
decision about whether to move forward with charges in this case.
That the decision to make. That's a council's decision to make.
That's his job. They decided not to move forward. For
any extraneous commentary, they don't know what they're talking about.
It has no place in this report. The bottom line
is a matter is now closed. I'm going to continue

(01:48:18):
what I've always focused on my job of being President
of the United States of America. No, thank you, and
I'll take some questions.

Speaker 17 (01:48:25):
President Biden.

Speaker 16 (01:48:26):
Something the Special Council said in his report is that
one of the reasons you were not charged is because,
in his description, you are a well meaning elderly man
with a poor memory.

Speaker 14 (01:48:39):
I'm well meaning, and I'm an elderly man, and I
know what the hell I'm doing. I'm in president and
I put this country back on his feet. I don't
need his recommendation.

Speaker 7 (01:48:47):
It's totally it is your memory, And can you continue
as president?

Speaker 14 (01:48:51):
My memory is so bad, I let you speak. That's
that's what has gotten worse. Look, my memory is not going.
My memory is fine.

Speaker 17 (01:49:02):
My memory.

Speaker 14 (01:49:02):
Take a look at what I've done since I've become president.
None even thought I could pass any of the things
I got passed. How'd that happen?

Speaker 15 (01:49:09):
You know?

Speaker 14 (01:49:09):
I guess I just forgot what was going on?

Speaker 17 (01:49:15):
Your age? How are you going to persuade?

Speaker 14 (01:49:17):
I mean, do you fear that this report is only
going to fuel further concerned only.

Speaker 17 (01:49:21):
By some of you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:25):
Criminal today?

Speaker 23 (01:49:27):
Do you take responsibility for me seeing careless with classified material?

Speaker 14 (01:49:32):
I take responsibility for not having seen exactly what my
staff was doing. This goes in in Twente out things
that appeared in my garage, things that came out of
my home, things that we were moved, not by me
but my staff.

Speaker 15 (01:49:47):
But my staff.

Speaker 23 (01:49:56):
Mister President, for months, when you were asked about your age,
you would bond with the words watched me. Many American
people have been watching, and they have expressed concerns about
your aige.

Speaker 17 (01:50:07):
That is your judgment.

Speaker 14 (01:50:08):
That is your judgment the public, that is not the
judgment or the press.

Speaker 23 (01:50:12):
The expressed concerns about your mental acuity. They say that
you are too old, mister President. In December, you told
me that you believe there are many other Democrats who
could defeat Donald Trump.

Speaker 7 (01:50:22):
So why does it have to be you?

Speaker 22 (01:50:23):
Now?

Speaker 14 (01:50:24):
What is your answer that qualified person in this country
be president of the United States and finished the job
I started.

Speaker 6 (01:50:30):
Do you believe that.

Speaker 14 (01:50:37):
I did not share classified information. I did not share
it with my ghostrid I did not guarantee you did not. Well, No,
he did not say that. He did not say that.

Speaker 25 (01:50:50):
Let me answer your question.

Speaker 14 (01:50:53):
The fact of the matter is what I didn't want repeated.
I didn't want him to not and I didn't read
it to him. Was I had written a lot long
memorandum to President Obama why we should not be in Afghanistan,
and I was multiple pages, and so what I was
referring to I said classified. I should have said it
was should be private because it was a contact between

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the president and the vice president as to what was
going on.

Speaker 17 (01:51:19):
That's what it is referring to.

Speaker 14 (01:51:20):
It was not classified information in that document.

Speaker 17 (01:51:24):
That was not classic.

Speaker 27 (01:51:37):
When you look back at this incident, is there anything
you would do differently now? And do you think that
a special prosecutor should have been appointed in the first
place in both of these cases.

Speaker 14 (01:51:48):
First of all, what I would have done is oversee
the transfer of the material that was in my office
in my offices, I should have done that, if I
go back, I didn't have the responsibility to that. That
was my staff was supposed to do that, and they
referenced that in the report, and my staff did not

(01:52:08):
do it in the way that For example, I didn't
know how half the boxes got in my garage until
I found out staff gathered them up, put them together
and took them to the garage in my home, and
all the stuff that was in my home, was in
filing cabinets that were either locked or able to be luned.

Speaker 25 (01:52:25):
It was in my house.

Speaker 14 (01:52:26):
It wasn't out in like in mar A Lago in
a public place where and none of it was high classified,
didn't have any of that red stuff on it, you
know what I mean? Around the corners, none of that.
And so I wish I had paid more attention to
how the documents were being moved and where I thought
they were being moved to the archives. I thought all
of us being moved. That's what I thought. Now, what

(01:52:49):
was the last part of your question?

Speaker 27 (01:52:50):
Whether a special council should have been appointed in this
case and in the case of your rivals.

Speaker 14 (01:52:55):
I think a special council should have been appointed. And
the reason I think a special council should have been
appointed is because I did not want to be in
a position that they looked at Trump and weren't going
to look at me, just like they looked at the
Vice president. And the fact is they made a firm
conclusion I did not break the law.

Speaker 6 (01:53:13):
Period.

Speaker 14 (01:53:14):
Thank you all, very ranch.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
President Joe Biden there addressing the White House Press Corps
after today's go back, go back, go back, absolutely.

Speaker 14 (01:53:35):
I'm of the view, as you know, that the conduct
of the response in Gaza, in the Gaza Strip has
been over the top. I think that, as you know,

(01:54:01):
initially the President of Mexico, Cisi, did not want to
open up the gate to allow humanitarian material to get in.

Speaker 25 (01:54:10):
I talked to them.

Speaker 14 (01:54:11):
I convinced to open the gate. I talked to Bbie
to open the gate. On the Israeli side, I've been
pushing really hard, really hard to get humanitarian assistants into Gaza.
There are a lot of innocent people who are starving,
a lot of innocent people were in trouble and dying,
and it's got to stop. Number one.

Speaker 8 (01:54:30):
Number two.

Speaker 14 (01:54:32):
I was also in a position that I'm the guy
that made the case that we have to do much
more to increase the amount of material going in, including fuel,
including other items. I've been on the phone with the Qataris,
I've been on the phone with the Egyptians, I've been
on the phone with the Measaudis to get as much
aid as we possibly can into Gaza. They are innocent

(01:54:54):
people and some women and children who are also in
badly need of help, and so that's what we're pushing
and I'm pushing very hard now to deal with this
hostage ceasefire because as you know, I've been working tirelessly
in this deal. How can I say this without revealing
to lead to a sustained pause in the fighting, in

(01:55:18):
the actions taking place in the Gaza strip. And because
I think if we could get the delay for that,
the initial delay, I think that we would be able
to extend that so that we could increase the prospect
that this fighting in Gaza changes. There's also negotiations you

(01:55:43):
may recall at the very beginning, right after, right before
Hamas attacked, I was in contact with the Saudis and
others to work out a deal where they would recognize
Israel's right to exist, let them make them part of
the Middle East, recognize and fully in return for certain
things that the United States would commit to do. And

(01:56:05):
the commitment that we were proposed to do related to too.
Two items I'm not going to go in detail, but
one of them was to deal with the protection against
the arch enemy to the northwest a northeast, I should say,
the second one by providing ammunition and material for them
to defend themselves. Coincidentally, that's the time frame with this

(01:56:30):
broke out. I have no proof what I'm about to say,
but it's not unreasonable to suspect that the Hamas understood
what was about to take place and wanted to break
it up before it happened.

Speaker 1 (01:56:50):
So let's President Joe Biden speaking to the White House
Press Corps after today's special prosecutor report. He's not going
to be charged document case, but this special prosecutor, a
Republican Trump appointee, questioned the mental acuity of this president.
This was an attempt, obviously by the White House to

(01:57:12):
send the President out. The question I will first pose
to my panel, Lauren, I'll start with you, was it
smart for this White House to send the president out
at seven point forty five tonight? Came in about eight
o'clock to address this issue when they already issued a
stinging rebuke to this. Was it smart for them to

(01:57:36):
send him out? Was their effort is saying they would
rather have him speaking on this as opposed to just
their response.

Speaker 8 (01:57:47):
Yeah, I think that the way that that went was
not great. I think that it was not a particularly
good idea to do this. Really, he starts off the statement,
effectively repeating exactly what he said in Leesburg. And then,
of course, you know any moment when you have a
question from the press that goes anything like should you

(01:58:09):
step aside? Are you too old? I get that that
was probably either Fox's person or an or something like that,
But that's the context of this press conference. He's effectively
having this moment to explain mental acuity. I mean, that's
what this is about. So the subject matter of the
press conference is defensive. You're on defense, you're answering. This

(01:58:31):
is not an offensive press conference. This happened because I
think they felt like they needed to explain something, and
I got to tell you increasingly, you know, Joe Biden
is starting to remind me of the shark in Jaws,
where you have the barrels being shot at the shark
from the yellow barrels and they're trying to weight down
the shark, and he's got a lot of barrels that

(01:58:55):
are going in and he's getting weighted down by different things.
It's Israel, the age issue we're hearing. Of course, this
thing with black voters. That gets louder and louder, the
problem with black voters. And I'm thinking that, you know,
this was not a great idea and I'm sure his
staff is well aware of the fact that probably after

(01:59:15):
a certain time. As somebody who for a long time
in my life and even now has been one of
the youngest people in my family, I know what it
is to have older folks around and usually at about
a certain time to get a little bit tired, quite frankly.
And he's the president of the United States. He's not
a retiree. So I'm sure the staff was aware that
it probably wasn't a good idea to have him go

(01:59:35):
out there unexpectedly with something like this, and I think
we saw the result of that. He is eighty what
is he eighty two? Is he eighty one or eighty two?

Speaker 3 (01:59:44):
Thank you?

Speaker 8 (01:59:44):
And so I'll end it there and listen to reci
and doctor Carr. But I just feel like this was
not the greatest idea in the world.

Speaker 13 (01:59:54):
Well, let me start by saying this, Nobody in their
right fucking mind would want to run for president on
the Democratic side, unless you're Dean Phillips, who has no
chance in hell.

Speaker 3 (02:00:04):
So the whole.

Speaker 13 (02:00:05):
Conversation about Biden being too old and there should be alternatives.

Speaker 6 (02:00:09):
Nobody wants to run in this shit show of an.

Speaker 13 (02:00:10):
Environment where people don't believe that anything positive is happening. Yeah,
there's some improvement in terms of people's views on the
economy and inflation because they're improving or and then god
memes cases has been pretty resilient. But nobody is going
to squander their opportunity to run for president running for
president right now.

Speaker 6 (02:00:30):
So Joe Biden is it? Joe Biden is old.

Speaker 13 (02:00:34):
Like you said earlier, everybody news ass was old when
twenty people was runn against him, and they still signed
up for Joe Biden. Bernie Sanders, who took second place, also,
oh okay, so we're not talking about spring chickens here.
Donald Trump also owed he don't know the difference between
Nancy Pelosi and Nicki Haley.

Speaker 6 (02:00:51):
So with that stage being set, I don't think that
Biden looked any older.

Speaker 13 (02:00:56):
I don't think he sounded any more decrepit or mentally
incompetent then he has. And that's to say that he
sounds like Joe Biden, and I think that's okay. I
think that nobody is going into this with blinders on
thinking that we have some sharp you know, a young
Obama as type president.

Speaker 6 (02:01:13):
We know we got Joe, and.

Speaker 13 (02:01:16):
I think that at the end of the day, I
think it's good to kind of get ahead of it
in the sense he's going to have to answer to
it at some point.

Speaker 6 (02:01:23):
If you answered it to it while a whole bunch
of other shit is going.

Speaker 13 (02:01:26):
On, get it over with and move on, as opposed
to dragging this out for letting it be a multi
day story. The media always has an appetite for whatever
the next story is around the corner, And so even
though he gave the best performance, I think he can
get and I think that this kind of to a
certain extent, moves turns the page a little bit as
much as you can from the fact that.

Speaker 6 (02:01:47):
He ain't getting no younger. So I mean, I'm a
mixed bag.

Speaker 13 (02:01:50):
I don't think it was bad per se, but you know,
I'm a little bit more encouraged by the fact that
he at least said that Israel was over the top
with the response. I mean, that's an improvement. And the rhetoric,
so that he did say Mexico instead of Egypt. Okay,
that's fine. People are going to pounce on that.

Speaker 6 (02:02:06):
But I mean, I think that.

Speaker 13 (02:02:09):
Joe was just out and I just think that that's
what we got to deal with and that's just the
reality of it.

Speaker 1 (02:02:13):
Greg Drechi's point when he referenced being on the phone,
he said that CC is the president of Mexico, he's
the president of Egypt. You can clearly expect his critics
are going to pounce and say, well, he's a perfect example.
He mixed up the president of Mexico with the president
of Egypt.

Speaker 3 (02:02:32):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, first of all, I will.

Speaker 12 (02:02:38):
Not admit, not confess, I'll observe in myself a continuing
desire for things to just.

Speaker 3 (02:02:46):
Come to a head.

Speaker 12 (02:02:48):
That's why I thought maybe he would come out with
something a little bit stronger as it relates to the
to the killing machine that has been propped up by
Europe in the United States since nineteen forty eight in
the middle.

Speaker 3 (02:03:00):
But he didn't.

Speaker 12 (02:03:02):
And I'll leave this to you all, because you all
are a lot close to these conversations in a lot
of different rooms, with a lot of politicians. I think
we probably would all come to the same conclusion though,
and that is that his staff, basically right or wrong,
good or bad, felt that they had no choice but

(02:03:23):
to call this press conference rather than give, as you say, recy,
These Republicans hold a news cycle to pick apart what
the special prosecutor laid out. That having been said, Joe
Biden is just not a fighter. He got a little

(02:03:44):
animated there near the end, but quite frankly, Donald Trump
his brain addled. He is often incoherent, and the minute
the reporter asked, well, should you step aside? My response

(02:04:07):
perhaps even Gavin Newsman's response, or anybody else who's not
gonna be president, I agree with you, rec they gonna
run with this guy unless he's physically not with us anymore.
My response would have been, you should ask Donald Trump,
who doesn't remember anything. You should ask Donald Trump, who
never served in any elected office until you put a

(02:04:27):
reality TV star and a failed businessman in as the
president of the United States, a man who has made
such spectacular displays of lack of mental acuity that for
you to even ask that question lets me know that
you're not an honest reporter.

Speaker 3 (02:04:45):
Joe Biden, in other words, should go for the jugular.

Speaker 12 (02:04:48):
But as seemed to be the case with the contemporary
Democratic Party, they never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
I don't think they felt like they had any choice
but to put him out there. Tonight, and perhaps in
retrospect it would have been the right choice because at
least you got him on TV in the same day
that the report came out, and maybe you can get
a new cycle.

Speaker 3 (02:05:06):
Or two and then it's over.

Speaker 12 (02:05:08):
But at the end of the day, it doesn't bode
well for where this world is right now that the
United States of America is about to enter a presidential election.
Perhaps not unlike Ukraine, perhaps not unlike Salvador or other
places where TV stars and comedians and others are about

(02:05:29):
to assume leadership. With one major difference, this is the
country with all the damn nuclear weapons and the big
economic engine. This should scare the shit out of everybody
in the world, much less the United States of America.

Speaker 1 (02:05:45):
I'll say this here. If I had to make a judgment,
I believe this was a mistake by the White House
to put President Biden out. He had already addressed the
issue at the House Democratic Caucus at the Landsdown Resort.
I think what they wanted him to do was to
be able to take some questions to me. What you
do is you have a good night's rest, you come out,

(02:06:06):
you call a news conference for eleven o'clock or one
o'clock tomorrow. You take those conferences, you allow them to
sit here, so they're gonna say what they're gonna say
regardless of what you do, is you come out extremely
sharp and again you have a very clear focus and
line of attack. Let's be perfectly clear, and yes, you're right. Greg.
What you stand there and say is you stand there

(02:06:28):
and say, oh, I'm sorry, you're questioning my mental ability.
Donald Trump said thirty three times on the witness stand
he couldn't remember, you're questioning my mental ability. He forgot
who his wife was when he gave a deposition. So
to your point, that's really how you have to respond.
This to me, was a White House communications apparatus or

(02:06:50):
senior staff that was somehow spooped. That's utterly ridiculous. Okay, listen,
the special prosecutor did that. And then what you do
is you send your team out lighting into the special
prosecutor saying, oh, you couldn't charge him, he had nothing else.
So what you then chose to do was to be
a republic and then attack him and I'm sorry, are

(02:07:10):
you a special prosecutor or you're a neurologist.

Speaker 6 (02:07:15):
That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (02:07:16):
That's what you do.

Speaker 3 (02:07:18):
What you do.

Speaker 1 (02:07:20):
No, but no. But first of all, but they can't
do that because, frankly, they've got too many Let's be
perfectly clear. Part of the issue here is that they
got too many people around him who've been around him
for years, and they need fresh blood to be also perfect,
To also be clear, you need people who are going
to be extremely sharp and as to Greg's point, is

(02:07:41):
going to understand and fight back. You need people who
are going to hit Yes, And I would have said, oh,
I'm sorry, you're talking about me against the same person
who couldn't figure out who Nancy Pelosi was and he
kept talking about Nicki Haley or Nicki Haley was Nancy Pelosi.
That's what you do. To Greg's point, yes, you're now

(02:08:02):
in a battle. The battle that Joe Biden is in
right now is right as we speak on this day
in February, is not a battle against Donald Trump. He's
literally in a battle against his own party. And there
are people who are questioning whether you can do it,
and a little bit of it. I'm sorry. If you
tell me, hey, are you up to the task, I'm

(02:08:25):
gonna sit here and say yes, this bill and this
bill and this bill and this bill and this bill.
I'm gonna say, I'm fulk the facts do not lie.
If you look at these substantive things that have happened
in the first three years of the Biden Harris presidency,

(02:08:47):
they have actually accomplished more than Obama Biden in their
first three years. You sit them side by side, it's
just true. They say nothing about all man you want
to prop up up. No, it's not. But what you
have to understand is it is there. It is President.
And I go back to I go back to twenty

(02:09:12):
nineteen eighty four, I go back to nineteen eighty eight,
and I remember in nineteen eighty four. In nineteen eighty four,
there was a speech that was given in San Francisco,
And in that particular speech by a candidate that did
not win. What did he say. He was talking about

(02:09:33):
where we are going in this country. He was talking
about what we need in this country. He was talking
about the things that matter in this country. And I
remember this candidate speaking about this issue, and he said,
I would rather have Fdr in a wheelchair than Reagan

(02:09:59):
on a horse. That's right, that's right, that's right for
all y'all Democrats out there who that's right, didn't see it?
You want to lie, go listen to it. That's your
line of attack. Give me an eighty two year old
Joe Biden who respects his wife, who cares for his children,

(02:10:20):
who is not going to stay before the American people
and lie. Give me an eighty two year old Joe
Biden who has not had to run out Captain members,
who has had you not run out administration. Give me
a Joe Biden who does not attack gold Star families.
Give me a Joe Biden who will pay deference and

(02:10:40):
respect to dead soldiers. When Donald Trump did not want
to go out in the rain to mess up his hair,
and he called soldiers who died in wars losers, when
that fool used bone spurs to get out of actually
going into the military, I will say this, and let
me be very clear, Jen O'Malley anita done. And the

(02:11:04):
entire apparatus, this nice, wonderful, play it safe strategy. That
shit ain't working.

Speaker 8 (02:11:13):
That's true.

Speaker 6 (02:11:15):
That is true.

Speaker 1 (02:11:15):
It ain't working, And so y'all had better understand that
again we're dealing with the cars that will deal with
And let me say this, and I said it before
all of y'all people sitting out there, go back to
the four box. All of y'all people sitting out there,
all of y'all who keep saying, Oh my god, he

(02:11:38):
two O. Who that Joe as bot for in twenty twenty,
Let me run him down. Kamala was running, Corey was running,
clobal Shaw was running, Buddha Judge was running, Bloomberg jumped in,
Warren was running, Sanders was running the vault, Patrick jumped in.

(02:12:01):
At one point, am I leaving somebody out? I think
I'm leaving out.

Speaker 13 (02:12:04):
Like Leon Castro, Bullet, Jali Brand, Bully, Jullian Castro, Kirson,
jilibrand better On Rourke.

Speaker 3 (02:12:12):
All them people ran folks who were.

Speaker 1 (02:12:15):
In their late forties and fifties and sixties, and some
of them early seventies.

Speaker 3 (02:12:21):
And not.

Speaker 1 (02:12:22):
Folks didn't vote for them. So I don't want to
hear nobody today complain about why we had nobody else.
You picked him in twenty twenty. I know somebody's gonna say,
well that was last time, but this this time. But
here's a deal. The person who was picked in twenty
twenty did beat the person who's runn against him right now? Sure,

(02:12:44):
and I'm gonna tell you right now, y'all can see
it in say whatever you want to say. Y'all try
to sit here and call me all you was Jill,
you this that I don't give a shit what none
of y'all say. I will take an eighty two year
old Joe Biden if he don't remember what he had
for breakfast, over a white supremacist, domestic terrorists insurrection leading

(02:13:15):
lyon despicable individual who did nothing but degrade women, especially
black women, abuse reporters, crept on his generals, dog anybody
who disagreed with him. As no way in hell I
would even remotely support that evil son of a bitch

(02:13:38):
Donald Trump. So make any judgment you want to make,
bar anything health wise, it's gonna be Biden Trump.

Speaker 3 (02:13:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:13:51):
Right, And I'm telling you right now, if I could
vote a hundred times, it'll be one hundred to zero
Biden over Trump, because I know what the right wing
is planning. They are attacking DEI, attacking affirmative action, attacking
critical race theory. They are now attacking the Rooney Rule
in the NFL. Absolutely, they are attacking civil rights. They

(02:14:15):
don't want any student on debt forgiven. They will tell
net and Yahoo you can raise the entire Middle East
if you want to. They are in the pocket of Putin,
who took a Carson interview kissing up to him. These
people are evil. They are clear what their strategy is.

(02:14:43):
They don't care about the environment, they don't care about healthcare.
They care about the top one percent that IRS announced
that because of the new bill the Republicans did not
want to pass, they have been able to record five
hundred and sixty billion dollars from rich folks by virtue

(02:15:05):
of that being passed. But the Republicans want to get
rid of all the new ours agents because they don't
want them holding their rich white donors accountable.

Speaker 27 (02:15:18):
It's right.

Speaker 1 (02:15:19):
So again, we could sit here and play this game
out we want to, and it's real. It is real.
Oh but by the way, let me just remind y'all
while all y'all talking about man Joe eighty two, it's
a ninety year old dude voting in the United States,
Senate Chuck Grashley from them from Iowa, and he just

(02:15:46):
I just want to mind anybody. It's a lot of
eighty plus people who are in Congress, and you know
what those people have a right to vote to go
to war.

Speaker 3 (02:15:56):
How about that.

Speaker 1 (02:15:58):
Those are the very people who voted against the border bill.
These are the very people who are voting on policy.
I just want to remind y'all, no, President, they can't
do nothing unless the bill passed the House in the Senate,
So you got vote older than him passing laws in Congress.

(02:16:23):
I don't try and tell y'all, is somebody sitting here
why we need turn limits? Y'all, the presidency has turn limits.
It's two. He's only had one. He run for reelection,
So that's just laying out here where we are. But
RESI also said the best all y'all black folks, who's

(02:16:47):
sitting here repeating the right wing talking points. The real
reason why they are attacking Biden's age because of the
black woman sitting behind him. They do not want if
anything happens to him, they do not want her to
ascend to the presidency. That's a reason why the Russian

(02:17:10):
bots attacked her more than anybody else. Yep, let's be
real clear. All of these pole numbers of regarding Vice
President Kaalen Harris, y'all, those things were locked in the
place when she was viciously attacked during the campaign. Now, folks,
screwed up. They made some mistakes. I told them, y'all

(02:17:31):
should release your criminal justice plan early in the campaign.
It took them four months to do so. They allowed
that whole deal top cop to get locked in. That
was a mistake on they part, and I've said it
to her and her team. But I'm telling y'all right now, y'all,
this is a chess game, and understand the right they

(02:17:53):
want the power of.

Speaker 3 (02:17:55):
The Oval Office. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (02:17:58):
Biden Harris is the only thing stay in their way.
And the last point for those of you saying, well
we survived the last four years.

Speaker 3 (02:18:09):
Darny General Stephen Miller, that man.

Speaker 1 (02:18:12):
That man stood in Washington, d C. On January sixth
and called for those domestic terrors to storm the Capitol.
He sat in that White House and watched them do
it and refused to pick the phone up even when
Republicans were calling saying our lives are in danger. He

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wanted them to lynch his vice president. That's the person
who we absolutely cannot get close to the Oval Office. Recie,
Greg Lauren, thanks to being on today's show. I appreciate it, folks.
I will tomorrow I'll deal with Big Farmer. Didn't have

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time to it because of the President Biden's news conference.
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