HBCUs & DNC Hit with Threats, State Dept. Warning After Kirk’s Death, 9/11, Crockett, Paramount Deal

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September eleven, twenty twenty five, coming up on Rolling Unfiltered
streaming live on the Black Starting Network. Twenty four years ago,
America and the world was altered when planes crashed into
the Twin Towers in New York City. Membersis took place
today in New York City, the Pentagon also in Pennsylvania.

(03:11):
Remembering the day, nearly three thousand Americans who lost their lives.
We'll have a look back on that. Five HBCUs and
Democratic National Committee were investigated after bomb threats recalled in
several of the hbc us of canceled classes for remainder
of the week. This comes on the heel of the
shooting death of right wing activists Charlie Kirk in at

(03:36):
a white campus in Utah. Speaking of that, folks, we
continue to see the remeberations from that in African Americans
have been the course talking about that as well, especially
with a lot of the hateful things that have been
said about African Americans by Charlie Kirk. Say, Democratic leaders
are united in making the policy demands to Republicans as

(03:59):
they are trying to deal with the course debt of
the country. Will show you what Democratic leaders in the
House of the City had to say about that today.
Also Texas Congcomb and Jasmine Crockett going hard about the
devastating impact or effects of MAGA Republican policies that are
starving children hashtag we tried to tell you. Also, the

(04:22):
State Department says they will actually bar people and revoke
visus if they see that any foreign nationals make any
public comments about Charlie Kirk What the hell was that about?
In Business News, Paramount Skuydance announces they're going to make

(04:44):
a major bid or make a bid to buy Warner Discovery,
the parent company of CNN. That means that the company
that has been bound to Donald Trump, that already owned CBS,
could potentially be owning CNN as well. Yeah, we got
to talk about when it comes to that. Uh So
it's a lot we're gonna cover. Also, this uh white

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this racist white conservative pastor out of Austin, Texas. He
says that white parents should give their kids to talk
to beware of black people in crime. Would I show
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Speaker 3 (06:19):
Folks. Twenty four years ago, the nation was stunned when
planes flew into the Twin Towers in New York City. Also,
a plane crash into the Pentagon at Washington, d C.
And another plane that was on his way to DC
was stopped and slammed into the ground in Pennsylvania. The
passengers stopped that from happening, and of course all aboard

(06:42):
the plane died. You only three thousand people in these
three attacks perish today. In New York City there was
a commemoration there and the Pentagon as well. Here is
some of what took place in New York City. All right,

(07:04):
So all right, folks, so we'll pull that in a
second again. Was it's really a dark day in the country.
We remember when planes were grounded for a considerable amount
of time, No one knew if more tax were going
to be on the way, and it completely altered our lives.
TSA was later created. You had all sorts of security

(07:26):
precautions that went into place at football games and baseball
stadiums and basketball games, and so so much fundamentally change
in the United States on this day twenty four years ago.
And not only that, so many people have their lives
have been impacted. So many people got what's called the

(07:47):
nine to eleven cancer. In fact, today I was looking
this report where a reporter from Fox News who spent
lots of time there on the ground, announced that he
is dealing with that particular cancer, and so there were
because of the debris and everything along those lines, folks

(08:07):
have been dealing with that. So many people have died
as a result of what took place on that particular day,
as a result of that cancer. So yeah, Fox News
is Eric Sean has a character as a cancer diagnosis
stemming from his exposure on September eleventh, and so again,
so much took place in this country. I was, of

(08:30):
course at the time running Black americaweb dot com and
was immediately put on the time during the morning show
to talk about what took place, and of course that
what took place there led to the Iraq War. And
so there have been so many dominoes that have fallen
ever since then as a result of what took place
on September e left, And so every year in this day,

(08:53):
the remembrances, of course, you have the nine to eleven
memorials that are there in New York City, the Pentagon
also at that field in Pennsylvania as well. My paning
on doctor Nola Haynes, Professor, Georgetown University School of Foreign Service.
This from DC dot the Greg Carr Department baff of
American Studies at Howard University and Tim Fullerton, he's the
host of the find Out podcast. Glad to have all

(09:15):
three of you here. No, I want to start with you.
I mean, the foreign policy implications of what happened on
that day have been vast and here we see twenty
four years later, and let's just be honest, our foreign
policy was forever changed after that day. Of course, we
went into Afghanistan, had to go back into Afghanistan, the

(09:38):
killing of Osama bin Lawton, the taking down of a Rock,
the destabilization of the Middle East with the taking down
of Iraq and Sadam Hussein later Mormar Kadafi, and so
that day changed a whole lot lot in this country
and in this world.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
Absolutely, and I'm so happy this is where we're starting
darting on my show Nightcap. We've been preparing to do
a special nine eleven that's kind of air next Tuesday.
And the reason why it's important to me, like you said,
you know, Roland, being part of the national security and
foreign policy community, I wanted to take a little time
to talk about what twenty four years later looks like

(10:18):
in this political landscape. And also, you know how we're
still dealing with the ramifications of it. You named a
lot of things, but one thing that has consequences for
why we sit here today. There are some that can
link us pulling out of Afghanistan to Putin going into
Ukraine for the second time because he felt emboldened thinking

(10:41):
that we didn't have our eye on the prize, so
to speak, after we left Afghanistan. So all of these
kind of consequences can be traced back to when not
only you know, America change, but like you said, the
world changed. And just today I interviewed a young woman

(11:02):
from who's at Howard University and her father died of
ninety eleven related cancer, and she tells her story along
with Representative Greatnieks and a lot of other people in
a foreign policy and national security community. And I'm going
to take a little time to really just tell that
story about all the different moments like you named, you know,

(11:25):
from Iraq to Afghanistan. Why didn't the killing of Osama
bin Laden ended right to Islamophobia? What New York was
like at that time, what the rest of the country
was like at that time, and we are still dealing
with the fallout of that. And one of my experts
even talk about the relationship between ninet eleven and how

(11:45):
we are dealing with political violence today. And I know
that we're going to talk about that a little later on,
but you can connect the dots in various places, and
can you know, can find a relationship to ninety eleven.
Today is a somber day for many reasons, because it's
not just about that day. It is about twenty four

(12:05):
years later and still dealing with the fallout.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Under that point. We talked about so much foreign policy wise, Greg,
I mean, we could just go on and on and
on again, the lives lost, the hundreds of thousands of
lives lost in a rock US Service soldiers PTSD, so
just coming back, the constant, the constant tours of duty

(12:35):
in a rock in Afghanistan again, going into Afghanistan, defeating
the well, defeating the Taliban, Taliban later coming getting back
in control. I mean, we could just go on and
on and on, and the billions upon billions, more than
a trillion dollars of American taxpayer dollars spent as well

(12:57):
in the aftermath of what took place on nine eleven.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Absolutely, fascism never misses an opportunity to make some hay
out of disaster. I've seen young people, including some of
my students who were not born twenty four years ago,
who say that, you know. In fact, one student day
said that was the last time that we were all

(13:22):
together as a country. And I got a little sad
when I heard him say that, because this isn't a nation.
The nativism, the hyper patriotism congealed around an agenda that
we are still paying the price for. As you said,
to the term tune of billions of dollars, the warmongers,
the Donald Rumsfels, the Dick Cheney's, the hapless George W.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Bush used really as a signing pen.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Remember this is what gave birth to the Patriot Act,
and then this is what gave birth the following year
the Department of Homeland Security, and then the year after
that two thousand and three, ice talk about ramifications, talk
about ginning up fear and fear mongering. Let's not forget
that the only human being to stand up in the

(14:08):
federal legislature in either house and say oh no, was
the current mayor of open Barbarily then Carswim Barbarily, and
how widely she was excoriated. And of course going into
Afghanistan is one thing. But hey, Donald Runspelt, let's not
miss this opportunity. Remember calling Pale shaking a vial of
chalk dus, claiming it was yellow cake. And the next
thing you know, we're in the Iraq forever and destabilizing

(14:32):
that region continued to pour. Remember that nine to eleven,
two thousand and one came not even a week after
the end of the World Conference against Racism in South Africa.
That was the conference that Colin Powell had inkling that
he wanted to go. But Kinderlys, the Rice serving her master,
said no, the United States cannot go because you are
going to condemn Israel and equate Zionism with racism. And

(14:55):
the American delegation included a number of African Americans, Conrad World,
My Shriggia Wines and and the others who did go,
And that would have made a bigger splash had it
not been, of course, for the Towers in Pentagon in Schwuckersville, Pennsylvania.
So twenty four years later, I think we have an obligation,
particularly as people of African sin, not to just go
along with the conversation about the trauma and the unity,

(15:17):
but to really understand the direct connection between twenty four
years ago and what we are facing right now in
terms of the spreading fascism and the imperialism of the
United States.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Tim obviously massive loss of life. People were left without
mothers and fathers, and aunts and uncles and grandparents as well,
and there were people who were fleeing to houses of worship,
folks who had never been in some time. Folks were praying,
not knowing what was going to happen next. And then

(15:51):
that was this thirst for vengeance in this country to
go after the very people, and most of those attackers
were who Audi Arabia. And then we found out that
a safe passage was being allowed even when planes were
grounded for Saudi nationals, tied to tied to the royal family,

(16:13):
and so many things, you know, Craig Hunger has his
book as well, The House of Side, House House of Bush,
House of Side, and so many different things happened. And
I think when we reflect on this day, the aftermath
of what happened on this day cannot be measured. And
I don't think people really really understand the depths of

(16:34):
where this nation went after what took place on this
day twenty four years ago.

Speaker 9 (16:42):
Yeah, I mean, I think you're exactly right, and it
was a horrific, horrific day. I mean I was in
DC when it happened. I was on seven oh one
Pennsylvania Avenue, So I felt a lot of that fear
that people had.

Speaker 8 (16:52):
And you know, George W.

Speaker 9 (16:53):
Bush had a real opportunity there to reset and really
move us in a positive direction, and dead, as you
mentioned Roland, we decided to choose vengeance. And you know,
it was one thing to go into Afghanistan, but you know,
we were lied into what I would call the greatest
foreign policy disaster, at least in the last fifty years,

(17:14):
maybe ever. The ramifications are over are just incalculable. We
had over a million Iraqis lost their lives, most of
whom were innocent. You know, tens of thousands of Americans
were both killed and wounded in this and then, you know,
and then the government has turned their backs on first
responders in the Lower Manhattan. You know, John Stewart and

(17:36):
others had to raise hell to get benefits for these
people who were, you know, doing the best job that
they could in helping people, and then we turned our
backs on them. The destabilization of the Middle East is
obviously as your really great other panels have mentioned significant
you know it in boldened Iran to build a to

(17:58):
build a nuclear program, which obviously we were dealing with
to this day.

Speaker 8 (18:03):
And you know, we were a country that you know,
George W.

Speaker 9 (18:06):
Bush was left a surplus by Bill Clinton, and we
had an opportunity to be heading in a great direction,
focus on clean energy, get off for and oil, and
instead we chose militarization and co costing the lives of
millions of people to this day are still dealing with things.
And I don't think people fully understand twenty four years
later the damage that this Bush administration did.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, and so it was so many things happened, So
many things happen, and so again remembers his are taking
place for you again our work. On September eleventh and
one going to a break, we come back. HBCU campus

(18:52):
is on facing threats bomb threash today, one day after
right wing devocateur Charlie Kirk was gunned down in Utah.
Is there any other reason that this has happening today,
Why all of a sudden with HPC is beginning bomb
threats today? But remember we've seen this before but even

(19:13):
when it came to elections, how hpcus have been targeted
because of racist hate. Also, so many national shows, there
have been so much conversation over the last twenty four
hours talking about the issue of political violence. Here's the problem.
We don't know who committed this act. We don't know

(19:36):
who did it. We don't know that person or person's ideology,
we don't know the reasons for it. So why are
so many people automatically jumping to political violence and not
waiting for this simply to unfold. You're watching Rolling Mark

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Foks, Baltimore, HBCUs have been under a lockdown amid threats
to their campuses. Alabama State University, Hampton University, Virginia State University,
Southern University in Baton Rouge, as well as the Film
to Cook University in Florida, were all placed on lockdown today,
each sighting potential threats made against their campuses. In Atlanta,

(22:06):
spelled In College urged students and a faculty to avoid
campus and implement it heightened security measures following a threat
made against nearby Clark Atlanta University. Campus. Police in Clark
Atlanta University confirmed the threat had been received, prompting a
shelter in place order. These incidents come one day after
right wing influencer Charlie Kirk was shot dead on the

(22:29):
college campus in Utah. Housburry leader Hakim Jeffreys released a
statement about these threats. This is what he had to say.
He said, the violent threats made today against several historically
black covers the universities throughout the nation are despicable and
yet another indication that the explosion of hateful extremism is
out of control. We stand with the students, faculty, communities

(22:53):
that have had their peace and safety disrupted. I'm thankful
to local law enforcement for their swift response. The Department
of Justice an FBI must thoroughly investigate any potential act
of domestic terrorism and not turn a blind eye when
black college students are apparently being viciously targeted. These attempts
to intimidate everyday Americans will not stand it. We need

(23:15):
leadership at this moment that brings the country together now.
A threat was also made against a Democratic National Committee headquarters.
SENI staff received an alert from the US Capital regard
and the responses the National Party's headquarters. According to a
statement from the US Capitol. Police officers were alerted to
the potential threat at one seven pm Eastern and began

(23:36):
sweeping the building and surrounding areas. As of the latest update,
south Southwest d C, a d NC spokesperson confirmed that
the incident was determined to be a non credible bomb threat.

(23:58):
Now keep in mind the DNC headquarters. Also, they still
have not found the person who placed those pipe bombs
outside of the DNC headquarters in January of twenty twenty one.
I want to go to my panel, Greg. I want
to start with you, your professor at Howard University, give
us a sense of what it felt like on that

(24:18):
campus today. Howard was not one of those schools that
were impacted. But the thing here, I mean, what does
it say that after this day HBC's were targeted. I
mean the reality is, in this climate we're in, in
this anti black climate, HBCUs are a huge target for
races in America.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Rolling out. I'm trying to pick my words carefully here.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
When the first reports began to filter throughout earlier today,
I went to several of my group chats, because of course,
they have colleagues at every one of those campuses, mostly hbcs.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Of course, those students.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
From those studid and the reports that got back, some
were sheltering in place like Clark students in Spelmen were
locked down for about an hour near next door more house.
Of course, God were brought back and we were in
conversation and the general sentiment was this, you're not going
to intimidate us, and you're not going to scare us.

(25:19):
It's white Nashal Us sorry, war with each other. They've
been at war each other since they left Europe five
hundred years ago. They are in moments like this when
they're desperate, and moments like this they get more and
more absurd and we get pulled into this violence.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
This is not a nation.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
It is a country with a lot of different people
in it. And if you want to go look for
people who are killing people, the last place you should
look at historically black causes and universities. And if you
take a few phone calls and some emails, that will
be taken seriously, of course, But if you think.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
For a minute that's going to stop us.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
You know what I did today Roman, after I checked
on my people, and as I was checking all my people,
I want to teach my classes.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
That's what I did. Nola.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Again we talked about threats. Our HBCUs obviously have to
be proactive, and again we talk about this stuff. It's
real what we're living in. We are literally living in
a climate where black people are being attacked. You look

(26:33):
at social media, are being vilified. You take one black
man who's schizophrenic, who kills a white woman on a
public transportation and every black person in America has to
be held into account. But if somebody white is killed,
it's not like every white person has to address that.

(26:55):
This thing is real. The constant attacks on DEI the
I mean, we can go on and on and on,
and so we have to stay alert and be vigilant
because we are on I mean not only that, you
take latinos and now the Supreme Court said they can
be searched at any given time just because of how

(27:16):
they look and how they sound. I mean, what we
have literally is an attack on people of color in
the United States by white America.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
Absolutely, and this is this is a historical escalation, right.
It doesn't matter what the person may or may not
look like, who shot Charlie klerk Kirk, or what their
ideology is. The fact is folks with guns, folks with
chips on their shoulders, A lot of insurrectionists who were

(27:48):
let go after January sixth. These people have already made
up their minds a long time ago about who the
enemy is, right, They have already made up their mind.
It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter what facts say, it
doesn't matter what logic says. What matters is to them,
we are the enemy. We are their oldest enemy, right.

(28:11):
And then you have immigrants that come in, you know,
from from different parts of the world, who also get
put into this categorization of the other and the enemy.
So that is the reality in which I know that
I was raised in, and as we sit here still
in twenty twenty five, that reality is starker than ever.

(28:33):
There was an there was a post on dear white
staffers on Instagram from a black student asking her white
professor at a PWI a public white institution, private white institution,
however you want to phrase it, asking her professor if

(28:53):
it was okay if she stayed in her dorm or
in her apartment because she was afraid to come to campus.
And her professor response was don't let them win. And
then her response was well as like one of three
black people you know in this classroom, I stand out.
I am a target. And as someone who teaches at

(29:14):
a PWY, I can tell you in these moments, my
black students are actually the most worried because I stand out,
they stand You know, Red was talking about being at
an HBCU. There is that community aspect, there is that resilience.
Those aspects aren't necessarily there at pwy's And so it's

(29:38):
a very interesting kind of parallel where you have black
students in one instance, they have that community we stand
together like I wish you would kind of mentality, and
then where I work my students, it's a completely different situation.
But the last thing I'll say is this, this is
not a new situation for us, but I will say

(30:02):
from my professional through my professional lens, things are escalating.
We are beyond warm. We are approaching hot. Every single
day when we are talking about this kind of nuanced
civil war, we're definitely in a warm to hot phase.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
And see, Tim, the issue that we are dealing with,
the issue we're dealing with is that historically, if we
go back to the Department of Justice, we go back
to the Black Freedom movement, we talk about the protection
of civil rights workers and marchers and protesters. Bobby Kennedy
was the Attorney General, and so historically we're talking about

(30:42):
looking to the federal government for protection. The problem that
we're now living in is that the folks running the
federal government see US as enemies, and the American people,
especially black people, do not have the trust in the

(31:03):
Department of Justice, the trust in US marshals, the trust
in federal law enforcement. Again, when you have Stephen Miller
and Corey Lewandowski and Tom Homan, when you have Ice
Barbie Christy Nome, when you have Donald Trump as their
leader literally saying the things that they are saying and

(31:25):
what they are doing, folk are saying, a man, we
can't look to them for protection if we're being targeted.
I mean, this is the same guy who canceled the
security deed, the secret Service detail for Vice President Kamala Harris.
Just because.

Speaker 9 (31:48):
Yes, I mean, to be perfectly honest, I am not
surprised about the bomb threats today based on what Donald
Trump in his administration and MAGA talks about on a
daily basis. You guys, are they other people and they
they create this right wing media ecosystem where they are
only they're only pumped full of this racist nonsense and

(32:13):
they end up believing it at the end of the day.
I don't think if I was a Black American, I
would not trust the Department of Justice. They gutted the
Department the Office of Civil Rights. I mean Janine Piro,
who is now with the acting District Attorney or whatever
of DC is saying she's not going to prosecute people
who are open carrying. Well, that's a signal to white America.

(32:35):
That is not a signal to Black America. Let's be
very clear. And it is dangerous rhetoric like this that
is putting us in this situation that we are in.
You know, the shooting of Charlie Kirk is a horrible,
horrible act. But they have been fomenting violence on the
right forever. And all you have to do is google

(32:56):
which side is the perpetrator of most politic violence in
this country. It is not trans people, which they have
tried to do. It is not Black Americans. It is
you know, it is the It is the right wing.
Because they are they drive people with fear, and fear
delivers for them electorally and to be perfectly honest. More

(33:18):
people who look like me need to be saying this
to their communities so that we break the stranglehold that
they have on white America, especially older white America, and
say no, this is not correct. This has to stop,
and we need to address the real problems rather than
othering people like we have done for honestly, two hundred

(33:39):
years or how long, two hundred and fifty years or
something like that. It is time to change that, and
more people have to stand up and shout it.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
So here's the thing that is confusing to me. And
I'm seeing all of these different works in their coverage.
Time Magazine, if let me see, I saw it. I
sent some people yesterday. Time Magazine put a cover enough

(34:11):
to killing Charlie Kirk in the Epidemic of American political violence.
And it goes on and on and on. Here's the
problem that I have here, Tim. No one knows what
the hell they're talking about now. Assumptions obviously are being made.
Assumptions are being made because he kicked off whatever this
tour at this University of Utah, Okay. But to me,

(34:36):
it is journalistic malpractice. And then and you're seeing journalists
of malpractice to start assigning reasons behind what happened yesterday
when you don't know what the reasons are. Fuck, you
have no suspect or suspects. FBI puts the photo out.

(35:00):
You've got no benifest You've got nothing. An early report
by the Wall Street Journal about these anti fascist transgender
markings on the inside of the rifle. Twenty minutes later,
atf was like, hey, time out. We haven't checked into
this out so all of a sudden, and so you're
seeing this whole deal. And what I have been saying

(35:22):
to people is shut up, shut up. You literally don't
know what you're talking about. And I just think that
when people jump to the conclusions. We've seen this before
in other stories when something happens and that it's like, oh,
we found out later what the truth was. You don't know.

(35:42):
There's nothing wrong with just shutting up and letting law
enforcement do what they do. I believe that what you
have seen in the last twenty four hours, with the
ramping up of all of this, are folk wanting to
jump to conclusions. It does not serve anybody to jump

(36:05):
to a conclusion. And even Donald Trump did the exact
same thing. And this is the problem. When you heighten
these things, how about actually waiting for real information. Is
it that hard.

Speaker 8 (36:25):
For a normal, sane person. No, it is not hard.

Speaker 9 (36:28):
But the reality is that the Republican Party takes their
marching orders from Donald Trump, and he sat in the
Oval Office yesterday, I believe behind the resolute desk and
blame Democrats for this shooting. And like you said, Roland,
we don't know who this person is, the same thing
happened last year with the assassination attempt of Donald Trump.

(36:48):
Right wing media immediately jumped on the fact and they said,
this was clearly a Democrat, this was left wing violence.

Speaker 8 (36:55):
And what did we find out later? This guy was
a mentally disturbed Republican.

Speaker 9 (37:00):
And I think that there is a lesson here that
I don't think the media is getting and I don't
think people online are getting.

Speaker 8 (37:08):
Is that a lot of times?

Speaker 9 (37:09):
And when you are fermenting this type of rage on
the right, you are you're radicalizing people with mental illness
who may just lash out at you. We don't know,
but I have not said any of that. I have
not said it was a Republican or a Democrat. And
I think more people need to take a breath and
there's just there's there's such a need on the right
to weaponize all of these things for political gain, and

(37:32):
it's disgusting and sadly a lot of the media has
been going along with it. We simply don't know who
this guy is and we don't know what his agenda is.
He made some mistakes, so hopefully we will be able
to find him. But until then, anybody who is claiming
that this is a left or a right problem is
full of it, and it really should be ashamed of themselves.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
And seeing what this does. Noah, it it fires people up,
It gets them, it gets them all hyped. You've got
Jesse Waters on Fox News declaring there's going to be
retribution all this sort of stuff. You don't even know
what the hell you're talking about.

Speaker 8 (38:15):
And so.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
We often talk about police how they should de escalate.
This is where a lot of these media people should
shut the hell up as well. To me, it's only ridiculous.
You know nothing. You literally know nothing about what happened,

(38:39):
the reason behind it. Nothing, not a little bit, not
some nola, literally nothing.

Speaker 6 (38:48):
Roland. You are still operating as a professional. We all
know that professionalism, facts and logic no longer exists on
this timeline. You know, I want to say, you know
two things. I want to say something from my through
my national security lens what I see there, and then
also from a comms and media perspective in this kind

(39:12):
of new media ecosystem where it's rapid response and it's
very hard to fact check and to get things correct
because you're trying to beat the algorithm, right, you're trying
to ride that wave. But you know, from a national
security perspective, first of all, to automatically go to you know,
it's the left, it's liberals, you know, blaming black people.

(39:36):
We are the perpetual enemy. It doesn't matter what we
do or what we don't do. I want people to
first understand the demographics in Utah because this happened in
Utah where there's under two percent of black people that
live in Utah. First and foremost, right, So if there's
a black person perch somewhere with some sort of rifle
or some sort of weapon, they will probably stand out first,

(39:59):
you know, let's are there. Secondly, to your point, we
don't know anything. So why two point five seconds after
Charlie Kirk was shot, before he was announced dead, that
corporate media, right wing media was blaming the left, blaming
the liberals. This is dangerous and it's all so strategic

(40:21):
to what in some people may say, it's exactly this right.
It's the fear on HBCU campuses. It's all the rage
baiting that's happened, and all the videos and the clips
that you're seeing. It's the rapid response. It's the kind
of spike in an algorithm. I personally believe that too
many people have already bought into this kind of this

(40:48):
belief that this is the right way the country should
be heading in, you know, in terms of this is
how white people get this country back. It doesn't matter
if it's true, it doesn't matter if it's facts. It's
about scaring people. It is about terrorizing people. As we

(41:09):
sit here today on the twenty fourth anniversary of nine eleven,
it is about terrorizing people. And that is what is happening.
People are traumatized and terrorized, and that is the end goal.
That is what's in the toolkit of fascism. And so
it's solitarianism period.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
I just again what I say to people is be
quiet when you know nothing, don't just make up stuff. Greg.
But that's but that we know there's a cable news
system now with social media, and now people just is like,
not even forget a new cycle. New cycles don't even

(41:54):
exist anymore. We literally are living on not even our
by hour, minute by minute, it's second by second. And
I was a lot of people would just shut the
hell up because you don't know what the hell you're
talking about. So if somebody asked me, what do you think,
there's nothing to think you don't know?

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Well, I mean the scientists tell us, don't they rather
than nature of bores a vacuum.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
And I agree with everything that the Haynes just said. Nolan.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
You know, as you were talking about earlier, you know,
being at the White Cottage campus. You know, I my
heart goes out to you into because I absolutely you know,
I went to Temple, went to a house said that
after at tennessee statement any why working me sound? You
know exactly what it's like to be and a sea
of whiteness and with your head on a swool. So
I mean, I can't express the depth of a feeling

(42:50):
that I have for that, And so that's a very
real thing. I agree with you one hundred percent. The objective,
the objective of these fascists. It's not t escalation, but
that's relation. You know, these these these these small minded folks,
they have no morals, they have no ethics to out that.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
All they want is power. And you know they are right,
I'll give you tim they're taking the directions of Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
But they were primed to take those directions by New Greenish,
you know, by Barry Goldwater and George Wallace, Wichard Nixon.
They lee Atwater, you know, Roger Stone. I mean, in
other words, this is the trajectory. There isn't a left
in the right. There's fascism and anti fascism at this point,
and being quiet is not an option because our silence

(43:35):
is filled in the void with the lawer lumers.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
You know.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
God blessed Charlie Kirk. God bless his family, God bless
them all. I have nothing to say about Charlie Kirk.
He's not He's not relevant to me. He wasn't relevant
yesterday and he's not relevant to that. He won't be
relevant tomorrow. Chilie Kirk is a symptom. He lost his life.
That's a tragedy. Preston Brooks, beat the hell out of
Senator Charles Sumner on the floida the United States Senate

(44:03):
in the days before the Civil Wars. Now some to survive,
but it was blood all over the place. This is
the kind of violence we see on the verge of
other types of violence. Before it was over, hundreds of thousand,
seven thousand people lost their lives in the United States
Civil War.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
That's not going to happen again in the same way.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
However, when you see a moment when somebody loses their
life in a way that is then broadcast over the
entire world, the entire world, and in the wake of it,
before this man's corpse is cold, the President of the
United States is on the air blaming the people who
he has called the enemy of the people, and like

(44:42):
a cascade of pure Bread Clan Bread, fascist Nazi Atrey,
his choir begins to tune in on everybody in the
world who they see as their open enemies. I'm not
sure that silence is the strategy to combat fascism in
this moment.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
I'm not saying I know what it is, but I
know these people aren't interested in the escalation. Their whole
objective escalation.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Folks, we got some breaking news news reports are coming in.
This is actually from the Fox News Twitter feed. The
US Naval Academy is on lockdown after a midshipman who

(45:29):
had been kicked out of the school has returned to
campus armed with a weapon. Multiple sources inside the US
Naval Academy tell Lucas Fox News gunshots have been heard
inside Bancroft Hall, which houses the midshipman. This was posted

(45:49):
about fifteen minutes ago. Give me one second, I'm trying
to read more of the story. Here is this video
here from a Naval Academy control and let me know
what this is, all right, So this is a live
look at at an ambulance helicopter that is taking off

(46:14):
from the US Naval Academy. Of course, again we do.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Not have.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Any further details. Do not have any further details about
how many people have been impacted. This is reading the
Fox News story. One official on campus said the shooter
is knocking on doors pretending to be a military policeman.
Naval Support at Activity Annapolis in coordination with local law

(46:43):
enforcements currently responding to reports of threats made to the
Naval Academy n s AA p A O Lieutenant now Welmarto,
Fox News. The base is on lockdown out of an
abundance of caution. This is a development situation and will
provide updates as they become available. And so again this

(47:04):
is a live look here of the US Naval Academy.
And again, just moments ago, we saw this helicopter, uh,
this ambulance helicopter taking off from the grounds there. Uh.
And we and we don't know exactly is this uh
is this another helicopter that's landing? All right, so this

(47:27):
is so we so we showed you, well they had
one helicopter that was taking off. Now we have another helicopter,
uh that is landing.

Speaker 8 (47:38):
And so.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Let's see what what what happens here? What exactly uh
are they doing? It looks like they are positioning h
to land uh. And we need to see if they're
going to be transporting anyone to that helicopter.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
So this is actually this is happening live right now,
folks at the Naval Academy. At the Naval Academy, you
see the helicopters now touchdown again. An active shooter reporter
at the US Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland. In Annapolis, Maryland,

(48:22):
multiple injuries have been reported. There are there's a massive,
massive police presence surrounding this facility. And again this has
been this has been coming down in the past thirty
to forty minutes to Maryland State Police. MEDEVAC helicopters landed

(48:49):
moments ago. Now, according to according to a reporter here,
this is no active no active threat at this time.
But just give me one second, I'm actually reading different reports.

(49:12):
The City of Annapolis put out a statement from USNA
Naval Support Activity Annapolis in coordination with local law enforcements
currently responding to reports and threats made to the Naval Academy.
And so we are again let's see here. This is
a statement released moments ago, about ten minutes ago, from

(49:36):
the office of Governor Wes Moore in working with local state,
I'm working with local, state, and freer law enforcement authorities.
There's no currently there is currently no credible threat to
the Naval Academy. That was a statement coming from Governor
Wes Moore about ten minutes ago. Again, we do not

(49:58):
have any any info on the status of those who
have been uh impacted. Some reports are saying that three
were shot, the shooter has been captured or killed that
has not been that's not being confirmed as well. Uh.

(50:18):
And UH keep in mind tim just yesterday, Uh in
addition to the Charlie kirkshooting in Utah, Uh, that was
three people were shot on a high school campus in
Colorado as well. And the reality is we were living
in we're living in a time where in this country. Uh,
we have an epidemic of gun violence. We the facts

(50:40):
are facts. There is when you look at other other
industrialized nations, there's no nation that comes close to the
United States when it comes to gun violence. No campus
is safe or a buffer zone from gun violence.

Speaker 9 (50:59):
If more guns kept us safer, we would be the
safest country on earth.

Speaker 8 (51:04):
We are not even close.

Speaker 9 (51:06):
We can't even get universal background checks on all gun sales.
And I don't know if a lot of people know this,
but in roughly thirty states you can buy a gun
in a private sale with never passing a background check.

Speaker 8 (51:20):
And we have to place the.

Speaker 9 (51:21):
Blame squarely where it deserves to be, which is the
Republican Party, which is basically an extension of the NRA.

Speaker 8 (51:28):
They won't even let us do that. They will let
us close other loopholes.

Speaker 9 (51:33):
The loophole that allowed the white supremacists to kill those
I believe nine or ten church goers in South Carolina
ten years ago. We don't do anything to limit assault weapons.
We had an assault weapons banned for ten years. You
could see the spike in mass shootings once once that
expired under George W.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Bush.

Speaker 9 (51:55):
There are simple things that we can do to solve
this problem. But Republican would rather say, look at the
horribleness of Chicago or look at the horribleness of DC,
when the reality is gun violence is worse in red
states that it is in blue states. States with weaker
gun laws have more gun crime. And they would rather

(52:16):
demonize the black community, the Latino community, trans people that
actually address a problem because the fear works in same
with the other stuff. It works to feed their base
because they know they're losing on policy issues. They know
they're losing on healthcare, they know they're losing on how
to run the government, they know they're losing on foreign policy,

(52:36):
all of these things. So they have to do this,
play this game, and they are willing to put lives
on the line in order to get what they want.
And it is disgusting and it is shameful, and we
have to come together as a society and find some
solutions to this, because this is madness that we lose

(52:57):
thirty three thousand Americans every year year to gun deaths.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
And here's the thing here, Noah, what do you often
hear come from Republicans who defend this, Uh they talk about, uh,
the need to put guns in the hand of the
good guys. This is the US Naval Academy, lots of security,
lots of guns on that campus, and there's still has

(53:26):
been a mass shooting.

Speaker 6 (53:29):
Absolutely there. We have We've never been a well country,
you know, in terms of our mental health, our spiritual health.
We've never been a well country. I would love for
someone to do research on COVID and its relationship to
the escalation in gun violence. I think that I don't

(53:54):
know the situation here. I'm not specifically talking about what's
happening at the Naval Academy. And then all so, there
was a UMass Boston, there was a shooting situation there.
Apparently there is no threat, but I mean multiple things
have happened today. We are not a well country. The

(54:15):
fact that we put the life we are honoring someone
who definitely was devisive at the least overdid children. That
tells you all you need to know about our country
and our priorities. And you know, the black Boogeyman works.
It's always worked.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Nola, hold on one second. This is this lot. Look here.
This is one of the shooting victors being transported to
the metavic helicopter is being loaded onto the helicopter. Again,
earlier we saw one helicopter taking off. We do not
know how many people were on that helicopter, but we
do see. Uh. This is a video out live live

(55:01):
look out of the US Naval Academy where lockdowns in
place where there's been a mass shooting.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
And we see a victim being taken to the medevac helicopter.
Not sure whether helicopter, what hospital they're going to, but
this is the second State Police medevac helicopter, Uh that's
been on the grounds there. Nola, go back, go ahead.
You know.

Speaker 6 (55:27):
The scary thing about this rolling what keeps rolling around
in my mind is how under this administration, you know,
renaming the Department of Defense to the Department of War, relaxing,
you know, reducing requirements for the FBI and from military. Again,
we are not a well country and you are putting

(55:48):
guns in the hands of many unwell people. And what
is going to happen when the requirements are lowered. They're
little to no background checks checks, and you are training
people to be killing machines. What is that going to mean?
This is something that I am incredibly worried about. And again,

(56:15):
these facts and these realities don't matter because it's easier
to send the military and agents here to DC because
it's some teenagers in Navy yard versus the gun epidemic
in this country. There's real data, there are real families
that are impacted. This is a real problem and it

(56:39):
is going to get out of control. There is no
way to rain this in outside of stricter gun law policies, period.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
But the reality, Greg, we know exactly the NRA could
I mean, has a strangle hold on the Republican Party.
They will shut it down nationally, they will shut it
down on the state level. A lot of people thought
that the one moment to actually deal with gun control
in this country was when those little kids in Sandy

(57:15):
Hooked were gunned down. Even that didn't do it for
the GOP.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
No, and again, the GOP is the delivery system. But
what courses to the GOP now at one time course
through the Democrats the century, not even even recently. It's
white nationalism. So we use GOP, but they're a delivery
system for something that is in the DNA of this country.

(57:44):
I don't say we when it comes to the United
States of America, I say the United States of America.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
I'm citizen. I was born here. My people went through
captivity here, and their people were trafficked. They did not
go kept it.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
United States, like every country in the history of the world,
will go, perhaps even being hastened by the moment that
we're in right now. After all, the Civil War ain't
that long ago. African people have tried, along with others
of goodwill, to build something different than what this place
was designed to be, which was a criminal enterprise based
on colonialism and labor theft and brutality and violence.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
And every time we have all tried.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
To do that, that nasty thing and its DNA has
risen up like an immune system to defend itself. What
we're seeing right now is not an aberration. It is
as thoroughly American as anything in the history of this
collection of the comedies. Turning to a seven state, it's
important to understand the Marshall language. In voladeo. Steve Bannon today,

(58:45):
ranting from his Capitol Hill Clay said that Charlie Kirk
is a casualty of war.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
We are at war. The language is war.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Of course, only Congress can change the name of the
Department of Defense, but it doesn't stop the nasty little
man like Russell Vote or the head of the Heritage
Foundation caring for Kevin Roberts, and the rest of these
ideologues like last week, last Thursday when you played the
Senator Schmidt out of Missouri. They are at war and
they have real enemies. The real enemies is anyone who

(59:14):
they see that could threaten their grip on power. The
easy targets the indigenous people, US, the Chinese, the Asians
offer and then the others, the whites who would dare
say I picked my common humanity over my race.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
They become race traders in their language.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
To hear elected officials on the floor of the Federal
Legislature today an A Paula Luna, the micha muppet, mister Johnson,
to hear Marjorie Taylor Green, the Democrats you caused this.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
We need to have an understand that.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
This isn't all white people, but that this is a
notion of violence that is not only pervasive in the
United States, it is the default position in this country
and it is wrapped with race. Finally, the EU today
we saw in Strasbourg the European Parliament President Roberta Massola
rejected these right wingers who tried to hold a moment

(01:00:09):
of silence for Charlie Kirk. They tried a couple of times,
Charlie Weimers tried from the right wing European Conservatives and
Reformists party and they were like, we need to have
a woman's no, and the EU Parliament erupted with protest.
Why because people in the world know fascism when they
see it, and nobody knows fascism better than the Europeans

(01:00:34):
when it comes to European style fascism, because they lived
through two World Wars, and what we are seeing right
now is a war in the mind of those who
have declared war on all of us, and nobody is
safe until we rise up seize political power. And in
this this has to be ended through the political process,
because these people are not putting up their guns. They
see themselves through the second Amendment Amendment as the well

(01:00:58):
armed militia, every last one of them in their minds
is the deputy police.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
You got a.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
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who is saying, I'm gonna make you the deputy police
even as I unleashed my secret police. Come on, let
me give you a hundred thousand dollars a year. Put
a mask on your face and snap somebody.

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This is our time. The question is what are we
going to do about it?

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that we can talk about things in some sort of.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Vacuum.

Speaker 12 (01:06:26):
You can't talk about healthy children if you don't talk
about whether or not they have money to access any food,
whether it's good or bad. Some would argue that if
you don't have money to access food at all, whether
it's good or bad.

Speaker 7 (01:06:41):
It's probably bad for the child to not have anything
in their body.

Speaker 12 (01:06:45):
The reason that those on my side of the isle
keep bringing up these cuts is because we know that
we already have a hunger problem in this country. Considering
the fact that we have a hunger problem in this country,
it's now only been compounded by the poor policy of
this administration and House Republicans as well as Senate Republicans.

(01:07:06):
You see, I don't believe that you can just have
a mantra where you say make America healthy again without actually.

Speaker 7 (01:07:13):
Doing the work.

Speaker 12 (01:07:14):
Because, as the Good Book says, faith without works is dead.
So let's talk about the work that really needs to
be done. Number one, it's in policy. Policy that doesn't
look like ridiculous tariffs that unfortunately now have our farmers
going under. In fact, to be very specific, farm bankruptcies

(01:07:34):
are up fifty five percent compared to twenty twenty three,
which minimizes the amount of food that we do have
that will be available and ultimately that food will be
more expensive because that's simple economics. Yet at the same time,
the six dollars a day that people get to eat
that's going away, and besides the snap benefits themselves. We're

(01:07:56):
talking about those kids that only get their food at school,
and we are able to set the guidelines for whether
or not that's healthy food or not. The reality is
that I am so disturbed because under this Department of
Health and Human Services, literally they have become the threat
to the American people serving from the state of Texas. Unfortunately,

(01:08:17):
we had to endure the very beginning of the measles
outbreak for the first time in twenty years. Children are dying.
That doesn't look like making us healthier again. In fact,
a lot of people want to talk about measles, but
the plague is back now. We had our first contact
of that that recently came out, and we know how

(01:08:39):
the Secretary feels about polio.

Speaker 7 (01:08:41):
Polio may end up.

Speaker 12 (01:08:43):
Coming back right now, President Trump, Secretary of Kennedy, and
Congressional Republicans are perpetuating the most significant public health attack
on Americans ever.

Speaker 7 (01:08:52):
In just a few months.

Speaker 12 (01:08:53):
They have diminished HHS's ability to respond to outbreaks and
emerging health threats. They dismantled teams that ensure Americans are
consuming safe foods. They've weaponized the federal government against universities
performing world class research. They've implemented the most significant cut
to health care in American history. These people hate it

(01:09:13):
when American families have access to health care. They hate
it when American families have access to healthy foods. They
hate it when American families have access to affordable housing.
They hated when American families have access to affordable childcare.
Because these people simply hate America, Nearly everything they have
done makes Americans less safe and less healthy. The consequences

(01:09:34):
of their actions are simple. More children will die and
have more children will go hungry, more children will live
in extreme poverty. More children living with disabilities will lose
access to school, based therapies and services. So doctor Fink,
you're here to rubber stamp this agenda, an agenda that's
so unpopular the Republicans are deciding to cheat in next

(01:09:57):
year's elections.

Speaker 7 (01:09:58):
But nevertheless, let's talk about it, Doctor Fincoln.

Speaker 12 (01:10:00):
Twenty twenty one, you provided a presentation at the University
of North Texas Health Speakers Bureau titled Women's Health.

Speaker 7 (01:10:08):
Do you remember that? Yes or no?

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (01:10:11):
I do well.

Speaker 12 (01:10:12):
During this presentation, you spoke at length about the importance
of vaccines. In fact, one of your slides stated, quote,
clusters of under or non immunization have the potential to
foster transmission of vaccine preventable diseases, including measles.

Speaker 7 (01:10:28):
Is this a slide from your presentation?

Speaker 6 (01:10:30):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:10:30):
Or no?

Speaker 13 (01:10:32):
I haven't reviewed that presentation recently, so.

Speaker 7 (01:10:35):
We're gonna go.

Speaker 12 (01:10:35):
You don't know you work under someone who has become
the face of the anti VAXX movement.

Speaker 7 (01:10:41):
So who's right? You are the secretary?

Speaker 8 (01:10:45):
Thank you so much for that.

Speaker 7 (01:10:46):
You are the secretary. I would like to tell you
that you are the secretary is challenging us to use
gold standards, So you're going to fillibuster and I only
have twenty five seconds. So I'm gonna go with you.

Speaker 12 (01:10:57):
Assume you, but you know that he's your bossdministration has
lost all credibility with the American people and our global partners.
No one believes you care about improving health outcomes when
you're slashing NIH research into Alzheimer's disease, women's health, cancer,
and diabetes. No one believes you care about public health
when you cut programs that support maternal and child health

(01:11:17):
and eliminate healthy starts. No one believes you care about
children when you implement the largest cut to Medicaid in history.
Americans know the truth, and the truth is that this administration,
with the help of Congressional Republicans, has unleashed the most
significant assault on public health and American history.

Speaker 7 (01:11:34):
The people will die as a result. I yield back
the remainder of my time.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
It's amazing, Nolah. They call themselves pro life.

Speaker 6 (01:11:49):
Pro life has somewhat of a interesting definition because they
don't want you to get get rid of the child
that you can't afford, but they won't help you to
afford that child that you can't afford. It is about

(01:12:12):
something far more sinister, in my view, you know, is
definitely to control women's bodies. There's that, right. And then
it's always been you need a part of the population
who's going to go to the military, right. And now
we're in a situation where we are in a deficit
regarding farms, regarding all types of certain type of work

(01:12:34):
that Americans just are no longer used to and just
do not want to do. So it is one situation
where white folks are concerned with the dwindling population of
white births, you know, for a different set of reasons
why they are concerned with birds from black folks, brown folks,

(01:12:55):
you know, Asian folks. Because the way in which this
country is turning is they want people in certain labor
industries as they are deporting communities of people who have
been doing that work for a long time. So where
are you going to get farm hands, Where are you
going to give factory workers? Where are you going to

(01:13:16):
get people to join the military. So in my view,
this is far more sinister it always has been. And
the things that Representative Crockett pointed out, it's just blatant hypocrisy.
And you know, as a social scientist with a stem background,

(01:13:37):
it broke my heart to hear that woman sit there
and she was about to try to find all types
of reasons to support her boss, who is a conspiracy theorist.
It doesn't go beyond that. This country has been overtaken
by conspiracy theorists, not by professionals, not by experts. But

(01:13:58):
this is the situation that we are in, and real
people are gonna suffer. Children are gonna die, older people
are gonna die, people are gonna get sick. That is
simply the reality.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Uh look, look, Tim, I'm telling you. I keep saying this.
I've been saying this since Vice President Kamla Harris lost
of Donald Trump. The only way this changes, the only
way this is going to change, it's white people in
America are going to have to feel maximum pain. So

(01:14:34):
everything you heard congress Woman Jasmine Crockett layout right there
speaks right to y'all gonna lose food, y'all gonna lose healthcare,
y'all gonna lose jobs. It's just gonna be lost, lost, loss.
You ain't getting money for housing. The tariff's gonna kick
your butt. And listen, Black people, we listen. We try,

(01:14:55):
We've been trying to tell America and save in America.
And if America. If why people in America actually listen
to black people, we will be much better off in
this country. But they keep getting his hard lesson. And
all of those people who voted for Trump, and they
vowed for Trump and a wedding, little maga hat and
a flytty little flags, all of them broke as people

(01:15:16):
are about to learn a hard lesson. He never gave
a damn about them. He don't give a damn about
them now, and he's been lying to him the whole time,
and they failed for a hook line and sinker.

Speaker 9 (01:15:30):
There's a reason why we named our podcast the find
Out Podcast because in November and mostly it was mostly
white people. We after around, not need, but white people
after round, and now we're finding out. And there's a
perfect example of people needing to see it in their
wallet and not being able to have empathy for others.
There were these farmers in Arkansas earlier this week or

(01:15:52):
late last week who were begging Donald Trump for help
because his tariffs are hurting them.

Speaker 8 (01:15:56):
Well, Donald Trump told them what he was going to do.

Speaker 9 (01:15:59):
They just didn't think it was going to affect them,
and they were fine with other people suffering, you know,
people of color suffering trans people, you know, just not them.
And I think you're right Roland, like there are a lot,
like the majority of people who look like me in
this country do need to fit for some reason, need
to feel it directly before they will do anything. And

(01:16:21):
the reality is they are about to find out big
time because the tariffs that bill is starting to come do.
Americans are realizing that they are paying the tax I mean,
Republicans say they hate taxes. They just put billions of
tax increases on the poorest Americans in the country. And
all of these policies were We're cutting government services, cutting

(01:16:43):
snap benefits for children.

Speaker 8 (01:16:44):
As Congresswoman Crockett was talking about.

Speaker 9 (01:16:47):
What you know, we cut one point one trillion dollars,
trillion dollars from Medicaid, which provides you know, healthcare services
for poor working class people, also mental health services for
poor working class people. Talk about the gun violence issue
before like we are. This administration seems hell bent on
destroying this country financially. And you know, I am I'm

(01:17:11):
hopeful that more people will realize that they are going
to be affected in a negative way. Their groceries are
continuing to go up. Donald Trump won on saying he
was going to lower prices. He's not done a single
thing to lower prices in this country. In fact, he's
done the opposite. And you know, I hope that there
are more people out there who are going to raise
hell about this, because this is devastating people across the country, regardless.

Speaker 8 (01:17:37):
Of their race.

Speaker 9 (01:17:38):
I'm just hopeful that the people who look like me
are waking up to the fact that this guy is
not interested in helping them. He's using you to help
his billionaire friends get a little bit extra in their
pocket and screw everybody else.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
And this is what Democrats have to be pounding. I
said this, Greg to Congressman Rocanna was here. I sent
it to Bernie Sanders. I'll sad Elizabeth Warren to all
of them, y'all ready to take the fight to these
folks direct. And Learr looked them in the eye and say,
he not bailing y'all out. He don't give a damn

(01:18:15):
about y'all. Just letting y'all know. I mean, because here's
the deal, and this is where the audience has to
understand American history. I love it, Greg when they say
black people, y'all have been voting Democratic for sixty years
and what have you gotten? Broke, poor, uneducated white folks.

(01:18:36):
Y'all have been voting for Republicans a lot longer, and
y'all still broke, You still uneducated, you still poor, you
don't have housing. A lot of y'all got bad teeth.
So I thought they care about the working class.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Well, you know that's not.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
You're well, of course, I know, I know you'd be
facetious and it's uh, it'll be funny if there weren't
so much pain and death. Bertie Sanders in Chicago today.
I've watched a little bit of a live stream. It's
interesting because he's out there fighting. This was just oligot
Ney tour. Looks like Trump might meet again with Eric

(01:19:23):
Adams trying to get him out of races. But I'm
not even gonna win their race. But what we really
have is chaos there.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
You have a lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
Different actors with a lot of different interests who have
congealed around the delivery system that is the most consistent
political ideology in the history of Nowstay is for America
white supremacy. And you have an adult, mentally unstable delivery system.
At the top of it's a signing pen named Donald
John Trump, who will say anything. Now, this is the

(01:19:52):
thing I will give him complete full credit for he
is because he's a product of it, down to his
funky little DNA. He is deeply in tune with the
spirit of white supremacy. Was bred and and his father
was part of it, his family is part of it.
So he understands how to tap into that visceral hatred

(01:20:13):
and fear that animates his electorate. When you combine that
with voter suppression, when you combine that with apathy and
people don't come out to vote, you can get close
enough to a margin to win elections federal elections. You
combine that with jerremandering the political interests that ALEC has
helped pioneer, and you know this red state thing that

(01:20:34):
they put together a few years ago to begin to
capture state legislatures, and you have a delivery system where
you've captured the federal apparatus and enough of the state
apparatus to push your agenda.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Now, what is that agenda? There is no one agenda.
And that's the problem.

Speaker 4 (01:20:46):
You've got religious zelots hiding under the umbrell of policy making.
Like I said, Russell Vote, Kevin Roberts, and these are
religious zelates. That's what they are when you read them,
when you hear them. Then you have the oligarchs who
want to make all the money possible, who want to
crack the United States down to its marrow and extract
whatever value they can before moving on. And in a
global sense, you know the other Peter Tiles and the

(01:21:09):
Elon Musks and others. And then you've got the agents
of chaos, as Michael Kaine said in Batman, some men
just want to see the world burn. You've got them,
but they all congealed under the Grand Old Party, under
the delivery system of the Republicans. You've got a mad man,
as Jas mcrockett kind of rehearsed there, named Bobby Kennedy.

(01:21:29):
As you say, Nolan, not only a dilo time, he's
an idiot, a long time addict who now has in
his mind. He said, I have a wish list. This
is everything I've dreamed for. That little twenty page report
they put out earlier last week, early this week, that
MAHA report Make America Healthy Again. When you look at it,
he's targeting poor diet. Okay, we can agree with that.
Additives and fluoride, understand all that, But here's the problem.

(01:21:53):
As you heard cockets from M crockett say, you're now
gonna you've collided against another interest, the billionaires who have
rated our public dollars, and as a result, people don't
have the money.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
To get a diet of any kind or or otherwise.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
Then you say that you want to that people are
over medicated and you want to deal with chemical exposure. Fine,
but guess what, you're deregulating everything, and at the same
time you're loosing all of these viruses and all these
diseases back because the people who vote for you don't study,
have no sense, think somehow they're going to be immune,

(01:22:28):
and if they pray to that Jesus they have in
their mind, they will be heedaled.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Then he got a problem. But finally, when you.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
Read that little twenty page report, which is basically a
bunch of bullets, the third one is the one that's
just scared the hell out of us. You know, the
number one cause of death among children and teens guns.
The report says nothing about that. Because you're the holy
owned subsidiary of the National Rifle Association, because your votes

(01:22:56):
count on getting white NASA's ginned up, because you've put
the second a minstomen in their minds and hearts as
the battery in their souls to say, at some point,
we've got to kill all the Blacks, kill all the Indians,
and maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
Even kill all the women.

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
And that kind of chaos can be destroyed if enough
of us get together, organize and express ourselves in the
voting booth, we can roll a great deal of this
fact in the matter.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Of the next few months.

Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
These special elections that are being won all over the country,
the midterms coming up next year.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
This is the time to get off the damn bench
and get in the game because.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
These chaos agents right here don't have a coherent plan,
but the result will be the implosion of this poverty.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
All right, folks, hold typ one second, we come back
Wall Street journals reporting that Paramount sky Dance is likely
going to put in a massive bid to buy Warner Discovery,
that's the parent company of CNN. I keep telling y'all,
media is critically important to impact the minds of the mass,

(01:24:00):
and that's what the right wing is doing. We're gonna
we're gonna break that down next World of Unfiltered on
a black Start network.

Speaker 6 (01:24:11):
This week. On the other side, of change Hurricane Katrina
twenty years later.

Speaker 11 (01:24:16):
Cannot believe that it's been more than twenty years since
we saw black people and black communities across New.

Speaker 6 (01:24:22):
Orleans and the South being failed by our government. But
it's a heroin lesson.

Speaker 11 (01:24:26):
We're gonna unpack our race and class intersect in ways
and how we need to talk about.

Speaker 6 (01:24:32):
This government doing more for our communities. Again. You're watching
the other side of change on the Black Star Network.

Speaker 11 (01:24:38):
Hi, I am Joe Marie Payton, voice of Sugar Mama
on Disney's Louder and Prouder Disney Plus.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
And I would rolland Martin on I'nfiltered. All right, folks,
Larry Ellison's son, using his dad's money, bought Paramount CBS.

(01:25:06):
Now that's saying company literally. That merger just went through.
Now Wall Street Journals reporting that they're going to put
in a massive bid to buy Warner Discovery, the parent
company of CNN. Warner Discovery, led by David Aslov. They
announce they're going to be splitting the company to two companies.
But these folks, they want to buy the company in
its entirety. Now here's the whole deal here. Historically, it's

(01:25:31):
critically important. Historically, federal regulators would not allow a merger
when you're talking about massive, when you're talking about fuel competitors.
So Paramount owns Peermount Pictures. They will be buying Warner Brothers.
Both are major, major movie studios. But this is Donald Trump.

(01:25:52):
We've already seen what's happening. Now. Report just came out.
Larry Ellison is now the richest man in the world.
Right he surpassed Elon Musk. Larry Ellison, of course found
an oracle. Trump is gonna let them also take over TikTok.
So let me paint this picture for you so you
understand the Greg. I'm gonna go to you first. I

(01:26:14):
need people to understand that. And what these folks have
been doing. What they've been doing is doing the bidding
of Donald Trump. The FCC Commissioner of the FCC chair said,
give rid the di I they did it. They just
hire an I'm Buzman for CBS who has no media
experience and he is expressive fealty to Donald Trump. That's
who they hire. They're talking about cutting a deal and

(01:26:36):
buying buying Barry Wise, her media company. She's a right
winger who up in New York Times guess what and
put giving her editorial control over CBS. So if this
happens here, that means that hardcore Trump supporters would own CBS,
would own CNN, would own TikTok. I explained to people

(01:26:59):
why Blackstar Network matters, the show matters. And again, when
you don't understand the power of media, and that's what
the right wing of done. They were pissed off. And
George Soros bought I forgot the radio company. It was
skipping right now, Kimlus. When he bought, They're like, oh
my god, George Soros is gonna take over and a

(01:27:22):
lot of our conservative radio shows along these stations because
they saw what Sinclair did, they saw how what the
Fox News has done, and Newsmax and O A N.
And so this could be a very serious, serious, serious
issue when you talk about getting real news. If they
then own CBS and CNN.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
No, I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
You know, it's interesting, Roland, it's very interesting what you've
built over the last seven years, and then with Roland
Martin and Filcher, and then over the last four years
with the Black Star. Not only is it the way
of the future, it's the.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Only way to go.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
You know, I'm less concerned with them buying it all.
Legacy media has almost like Tim Snider in his book
on fascism, talks about, you know, do not resistant advance,
do not concede in advance, do not h bow down
before the thing goes down. But they've already done that,
seeing it is unwatchable. God bless Abby Philip doing the

(01:28:28):
best as supposed she can. She's trying to keep her job.
It's unshington. MSNBC, of course has had its purges. It's
rolling purchase. They couldn't stand with us or Hairs period
much less timpany Cross or Jord reading that They've had
their purchase and now they are unwatchable.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
It's like a caricature listening to them.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
You know, so so and the major networks please, I mean,
you know, NBC carrying Chuck Tide for as law as
they did subsurd and and now they won't even ask questions.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
So so yeah, what if they buy it off? So
what if they buy it off?

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
You know, Maddie Housing gets put off and now he's
bigger than ever ends to take Jim Acosta gets put off,
Egos on substatic.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
But all of them following really what you saw come
in years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
I was saying all that to say this, I don't
know that they buy TikTok, because this is the beauty
of how white nationalism, domestic white nationalism doesn't understand or
at least understands what overplays its hand. She's the Chinese
out there. You saw a timu, is it? They made
a carve out exception to allow them to tend to ship.

(01:29:29):
Why because China's got the second economy in the world.
You know what they're concerned about right now. I mean,
they got a real estate over real estate bubble, and
they got some you know, heating in their national economy,
and they got the state investments, and they got to
worry about some of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
But one of the biggest fights they have been in
China right now is the electric vehicle fight.

Speaker 4 (01:29:46):
Why because the innovation is coming so fast and so furious,
led by of course, byd the big monster that ate
Tesla's lunch in Europe, and it's continued to eat and
eat all over the world.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Not the United States, of course, you can't get one,
can you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:59):
But but their big fight now is the innovation is
coming so fast that the damn prices for the electric
vehicles are dropping so fast that the Chinese are worried
about the fact that this is a problem. The cars
are too cheap and they're too good. I'm saying that
as a backdrop to this. Young people don't watch seeing in.
Young people don't watch MSNBC, ABC, NBC or CBS. Young

(01:30:22):
people be on them phones and be on them screens.
And they used the hell out of TikTok and Instagram
and all that other stuff. And if these fascists take
TikTok some kind of way, and I think China will
have a word to say about that. Even as you say,
this guy from the Husband's Tooth that they put as
the out busting in the CBS was defending Taiwan and
some stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
When he was at the Husband Institute.

Speaker 4 (01:30:39):
But even if they take it over and turn it
into a fascist platform, you know, quick, these kids gonna
abandon TikTok and go to something else. The problem these
fascists have is that fascism is always defeated when enough
people decide that they ain't had enough.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
And they're trying to get this thing to the finish line,
as if there's a finish line.

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
As fast as they can, but they don't to stand
the forces working against them, or they think somehow they
could overcome them.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
This is a wait and see kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:31:05):
But if Ellison buys it, man, you know, wasted your
damn money, because anybody watching.

Speaker 5 (01:31:08):
That is.

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
The thing that is concerning here, Tim, is that when
we talk about the social media platforms, many people said
two to three months before the election, how TikTok had changed.
They can alter the algorithm at any time. We see
Elon Musk does it as well Mark Zuckerbuck. Zuckerberg has

(01:31:37):
been doing it. This is one of the reasons why
we have been pushing fan base on here, for folks
to join the fan base. So if you had a
million followers, you can actually reach a million followers, you
wouldn't be throttle, you wouldn't see those things along those lines.
And that's the real real concern here. But with this

(01:31:58):
media consolidation by the right wing, it literally is about
controlling the mechanism through which to communicate to people, the
pipelines how to reach them. And I was at a
conference earlier this week and I was employing people to understand, folks,
it's called mass media for a reason. You can have

(01:32:18):
a town hall. You can have a gathering, you can
have a zoom call. But when you have the ability
to communicate to people every single day, every single hour,
every single minute, every single second, then you can truly affect.
First of all, you can affect to create an effect

(01:32:41):
of the hearts and minds of folks.

Speaker 9 (01:32:45):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's my biggest concern is
Larry Allison buying TikTok and they're not being a place
for most people to go. All of our social networking
apps have algorithms, and all of them are owned by
essentially right wing billionaire and I think the left has
to get.

Speaker 8 (01:33:02):
Really serious about this alternative media.

Speaker 9 (01:33:04):
I mean, like Roland, you've been doing this longer than anybody,
and I hope anybody who's listening is donating to you,
because we frankly need you to be one hundred times
bigger than you are, and we need a hundred other
people to be one hundred times bigger than they are,
because you're right, Like, the media consolidation is a very
scary thing. Putting Barry Weiss in charge of political content
on CBS News and they're paying or two hundred million

(01:33:26):
dollars for free press which is basically a glorified substack.
I mean, it's clear, like you're right, they aren't doing
this necessarily for the revenue. They're doing it for the
power and then the revenue will come after that. But
that's why we need on the left. We need people
to come together and fund progressive media, all different types
of it, because we need to reach those audiences. When

(01:33:48):
those algorithms get jerked around like they did before the
election last year, it's a real problem.

Speaker 8 (01:33:54):
And that's why we have to stand up these media properties.

Speaker 9 (01:33:57):
Ourselves, because no one else is going to do it
for us, and otherwise Republicans will dominate.

Speaker 8 (01:34:02):
And there will be nothing that we can do about it.

Speaker 6 (01:34:08):
Nola, I agree, Tim. You know, I have a small
little show, you know, Nightcap on the Persist network, which
is run by women, powered by women, and we are
having a hard time not just breaking through the algorithm,
but finding funding. You know, our entire purpose is to

(01:34:28):
counter the manisphere, but it's very hard to do that
when you don't have the resources. But luckily we have
so many women in our network that for instance, my
show I get great women you know to talk to
an interview, but we haven't been able to break through.
But you know, I want to go back to something
that Greg said. You know, the way that propaganda works

(01:34:49):
and the way that it works inside of fascism, you know,
is it's a cross sector. So while young folks don't
have their eyes on MSNB and CNN, it is layered conditioning,
it's layered propaganda. So you have their parents, their grandparents
who are tuned into Fox News all day, who are
listening to certain things, right, they're talking about it in

(01:35:12):
the home right. And then now you have this this
lean towards the right and entertainment. You know, you go
on you go on Netflix, or you go on Amazon.
There are movies that are pro Trump folks, these very
pro American you know, this kind of return back to

(01:35:32):
twenty four style TV shows about DHS and the FBI
and all these things. So it's layered. It's not just
about CNN. It's not just about MSNBC. Yes, it's about
the tiktoks, it's about social media. It's about what's being
talked about at home. It's about what movies you are seeing.

(01:35:53):
It's about the Sydney Sweeneys, and you know, the American
ego and her jeens it's propaganda and it's in every
single sector. So while the young folks may not be
seated in front of those you know, corporate media channels,
it is part of a layered strategy and that is

(01:36:13):
how propaganda spreads. And so that's my worry. I've even
heard conversations you know, change on the different campuses that
I'm in among you know, young folks, and even going back,
you know to Charlie Kirk. He had a he had
a hold over young people. You know, this thirty one
year old man. He was definitely moving the not even

(01:36:37):
conservative movement because this is beyond conservative conservativesm this is
something else. He resonated with them right through the rallies,
which is a huge part of the propaganda piece. Right,
these rallies that are almost build like festivals. So you
have all of this and all of.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
Them, but with the media, right right, But but but
the media. The reason that first of we're having an
organization is one thing. The media pieces is totally different
because what you're what you're now seeing is again I mean,
people to understand what we're talking about here, your pairamount,
CBS pairamount plus streaming service. But then with if you're

(01:37:20):
talking about Warren Discovery. You're talking about Discovery and all
of the cable channels as well. And we've already seen
where when Donald Trump says jump Paaramount, Skydance goes okay,
how how how many times? So so that's what people
I think people need to understand the tentacles here. The

(01:37:40):
tentacles here are wide and deep. Uh, when you talk
about multiple you know, you got Discovery, you got t
n T, you got TBS, you got CNN. So the
bid they're going to be putting in is for all
of it. And so that's really what I'm trying to
get people to understand. What does that play here to

(01:38:01):
unders And then of course, remember TikTok was supposed to
be shut down. Donald Trump has been extending this thing
incessantly and again people are essentially saying he is going
to position it to where Larry Ellison is able to
own it. And so now all of a sudden you

(01:38:21):
have that platform and so all these things are happening.
I just want people to understand what media is huge.
Media plays a massive role in shaping people's viewpoint on
so many issues. So whether it's legacy media, where it's
television's broadcast, cable, whether it's radio, billboards, advertising, now, digital movies,

(01:38:46):
you name it. It is absolutely massive. I gotta do
this real quick, y'all. So I gotta do this real quick.
Target the boycott Target continues, and they thought, hey, we
gonna hire some black people, some black influences. They got
ky Shanatt and of other people you know, doing stuff
in their stores. They thought, man, back to school, man,

(01:39:07):
we're gonna be back in business. Oh, foot traffic decline
well the seventh consecutive month in August. Now now a
national teachers union has joined the boycott. That's right. Data
from placer dot AI says Target foot traffic drop three
point three percent year over year. The week beginning August
twenty fifth, which included the Labor Day weekend, saw an

(01:39:30):
even sharper decline of four point six percent market, the
retailer's steepest weekly drop in seven weeks. Also on Labor Day,
the American Federation of Teachers and the Chicago Teachers Union
announced they were joining the boycott. It comes in response
to Target scaling back a lot of it's at diversity
equity inclusion initiatives earlier this year. And let me check

(01:39:53):
check yesterday, I got a phone call on this and
I checked. Yesterday Target stock is up. But yesterday Target
stock had not been that low, y'all in five matter
of fact, where it is now if I'm looking right here.
So on September eleventh, two thousand and twenty, Target stock

(01:40:21):
was one hundred and forty seven dollars and sixty five cents,
and then it went as high as two hundred and
sixty one bucks, and then it dropped, and then it
dropped to one hundred and forty seven bucks on July eight,
twenty twenty two. Then you had more drops, and then
it went all the way down to a low of

(01:40:44):
one hundred and eight one hundred and seven dollars on
one second, one hundred and seven dollars and twenty three
cents on October twenty seven, twenty twenty three. Then it
went up and went up to one hundred and sixty
eight one hundred and seventy one bucks. Well, guess what

(01:41:04):
that stock price now is at its lowest point in
five years. So right now, Target stock closed at ninety
one dollars and fifty two cents, as the lowest has
been in five years. How about them apples?

Speaker 6 (01:41:21):
No I mean what you always say, FAFO. I mean,
I don't know what else to say. You know, it
makes me kind of giddy. I wish that that that
that method was applied, you know to other companies, you know, Amazon,
you know for one. You know, these people respond to

(01:41:43):
their their their their bottom line. And the power that
the people truly have is their spending power. And that
really is what's going to move the needle in our
political landscape, because these people think that we are just
mindless drones essentially, and we're going to spend our money regardless.

(01:42:05):
And you know, like I said, FAFO, and it needs
to be applied to to other companies.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
Tim they're learning the hard way. We don't have to
spend our money with.

Speaker 5 (01:42:22):
You, no.

Speaker 9 (01:42:24):
And I think that going after corporations that are doing
the bidding of the Trump administration is probably a very
effective way to enact change. And I think that the
most insane thing about the whole DEI thing is that
it has been proven time and time again that DEI
is good for the bottom line. It's just a fact,

(01:42:46):
because you get more diverse voices in positions of leadership,
and you get a better product because you get more perspectives.
And then also, you know, we're seeing what's happening at
a Target when they basically just like folded to Donald
Trump and the consumers said screw you, basically.

Speaker 8 (01:43:03):
And then we've seen the opposite at.

Speaker 9 (01:43:05):
Costco because Costco actually their board said hell no, we're
not getting rid of DEI.

Speaker 8 (01:43:10):
And I'm pretty sure that their stock has gone up.

Speaker 9 (01:43:14):
It doesn't It doesn't pay in twenty twenty five to
play this game because there are more of us than them.
When I'm talking about progressives compared to these, you know,
I mean, the anti DEI thing is just a racist
reaction to people of color begetting more positions of power,
which is long overdue and still not even remotely close

(01:43:35):
to where we need to be.

Speaker 8 (01:43:37):
But this is what America wants.

Speaker 9 (01:43:39):
America actually does want DEI in general, and people need
to understand that it's not just morally the right thing
to do financially, it also is the right thing to do.
And Target as f RF around and they certainly are
finding out now.

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
So grant to that point Tim just made. The last
five years, Target stock is down thirty eight percent in
the last five years. Costco stock is up one hundred
and eighty four percent. And of course this whole thing
started around January twenty fourth, that's when Target announced the

(01:44:23):
DEI costco stock was nine hundred and thirty nine dollars
and sixty eight cents. It went up to one thousand
and forty eight dollars on February twenty eighth, It went down,
it went back up. It closed today at nine hundred
and sixty four dollars and thirty two cents, which is

(01:44:45):
over the last Over the last month, it's down two percent.
The last six months is up three point six percent.

Speaker 4 (01:44:55):
But go right ahead, Well, brother, I echo what you said, Tim.
I think brand loyalty. I think the idea that you're
part of a movement bigger than you. It's the kind
of thing that capitalism has always seized on. But it's
also the kind of thing that can defeat the predatory capitalism,

(01:45:16):
which some people would say predatory capitalism is redundant. But
but you know, to tie these things together, and you've
already kind of laid it out. We talk about mass media,
we talk about negurgty, know about that whole layering and
how people are affected.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
Somehow, Target timing was.

Speaker 4 (01:45:35):
Terrible and for a brief moment, you know, Target leapt
above like a fish above the sea, and everybody saw
Target and said that's the one. Now, as you say, Tim,
if that can be replicated, we get the list. I
think about the anti partic movement when I was an
undergraditendency state we have a I still don't buy some
of those products because we were you know it. They

(01:45:58):
left above the fray for a moment, he said, I
Nelson Mandela, who is that? Oh Winnie mandelaware wait reebok
oh gulf all hell now?

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
And then that left. Now capturing that is possible.

Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
And as you said, the combination of mass media and
the delivery system is necessary in that and Rolland remember
this was how long ago was that?

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
Brother?

Speaker 4 (01:46:20):
Was it twenty three when they got rid of doctor
McElroy had towards the c and them I'm Treman the
sister this journalist shot yeah. And remember you came on
here and let them have holy hell, including telling black
athletes not to play for Texas A. And m Now,

(01:46:40):
I'm not saying anybody sign, it didn't sign, but merely
that that momentum that I know you played a major
party in the president of Texas A. And then resigned
that summer, you know, because she had boxed this, you know,
and then and there they had left his sister out
to dry.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
Now I'm saying that. Fast forward to now, rid of.

Speaker 4 (01:46:57):
Arkamen Today's New York Times, the president of Ohios kind
of hinting at the idea that maybe the High State
should get an outside cut of the Big ten money,
the television money, and maybe one day he didn't say this,
but they were speculating that the Ohio State may leave
the Big Ten. Maybe Penn State will going there, form
a superstar conference on Mega conference, maybe get Alabama and

(01:47:17):
some other Well guess what learn this lesson from what's
happening to target right now, y'all keep this white nationalism up,
Please keep it up, because if you punched through the
consciousness of enough black people, and that that layering with
the adults and the and the and the and the
middle aged folk and the young and then the younger

(01:47:37):
than them folk begin to affect the mind of these
children and these teenagers. When the first two or three
of those women athletes saying, I love Don Staley, but
I'm not playing for the University of South Carolina. I'm
not playing for the University of Texas. And then a
couple of football players say, I'm not playing for Oklahoma,
I'm not playing for Ohio State. I'm gonna go to

(01:47:57):
Central State, or I'm gonna go play I could play
for I can play basketball at Jackson State. This was
Deon sanders mixed opportunity because he was one of those
fish that leapt up just above and we captured it,
captured the imagination.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
I think. But what this target thing signals is, if
you can.

Speaker 4 (01:48:13):
Capture the imagination for a split second the world of media,
you might possibly be able to trigger something that can
bring this entire house of cards down.

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
That is that, to me, is enough on its own.

Speaker 4 (01:48:26):
To support the Black Start Network BT is toast in
BT owned by Paramount.

Speaker 3 (01:48:33):
Oh yeah, Paramount own BT. Yeah. And they they got,
they got a one hour news show per month that
nobody watches. So, uh that's it, And I got I
want to close the show out with this here, right,
So I want to close the show out.

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
With this here.

Speaker 3 (01:48:48):
I'm not far from Austin, Texas. Uh. And just so
y'all understand, Uh, so we all know black pants got
to give their kids to talk, especially their black sons.
When it comes to how I deal with police. Well,
you got this all right, Pastor Joe Webon, who goes
on the podcast and says that white pears need to
give their kids to talk.

Speaker 14 (01:49:07):
Listen, if you're a Christian white parent who loves the
Lord and loves your children, that you need to have
the talk. The talk that we're referencing is the talk
that takes your children according to their maturity, at the
proper time, the appropriate time, and says there are certain
parts of town that you cannot go, and there are

(01:49:29):
certain people that you cannot be around.

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
If there's someone who.

Speaker 13 (01:49:35):
Is black in our church and they've been in our
church and.

Speaker 14 (01:49:40):
We know them and they love the Lord Jesus Christ, great,
we're not talking about that person, but we're talking about
when you go into a crowd of people.

Speaker 13 (01:49:48):
If you go into a crowd of strangers and they're
white strangers, there's some danger. If they're black strangers, there
is thirty times more danger. Them's the facts, and it
is actually a failure of your parental duty. White parents,
please hear me.

Speaker 14 (01:50:08):
If you teach your children growing up, if you lie
to them and say all people and all.

Speaker 13 (01:50:15):
Races of people in our country are the same.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
They are not.

Speaker 13 (01:50:22):
You are actually depriving your child a factual, truthful information
that could save their life.

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
So let me help you all out. If you're black
and you Attean Covenant Bible Church in Georgetown, your ass crazy.
If you literally sit, if you literally sit out of
the stewardship of that racist, then you must absolutely belong

(01:50:59):
to the Class Thomas fan club. If you are black
and you are anywhere near that church, then Jordan Peele
was talking about your ass and get out now.

Speaker 4 (01:51:18):
This guy.

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
He's also the founder of a white Christian nationalist website
called Right Response Ministries. And the thing here, Tim that
people need to understand is white pastors like this guy
all around the country. These are the people. I forgot
that other crazy fool in Tennessee said if you a Democrat,

(01:51:41):
get out of my church. You're demonic. These are the
people who have been advocating for Trump, and they changed
the rule for the ours to allow them to endorse
from the pulpit. These are the fake Christians. These are
the people who are not real Christians or they are,
as Bishop Barbarak says. These are the people who advocate

(01:52:04):
that slave hold in religion, well, that slave hold in Christianity.

Speaker 9 (01:52:12):
Yeah, I mean I think that I would feel a
lot safer being in a black community than being in
that church for example.

Speaker 8 (01:52:20):
I mean, these people are horrifically racist.

Speaker 9 (01:52:24):
And the sad reality is that Donald Trump has normalized
this and the right wing media networks have.

Speaker 8 (01:52:31):
Made this okay to say. And you know, I thought
we were you.

Speaker 9 (01:52:35):
Know, maybe naively, well definitely naively thought we were maybe
getting past some of this. But again, this comes back
to the fact that these people aren't They're not really
they don't believe, they're.

Speaker 8 (01:52:47):
Not following the Gospel or the Bible or anything like that.

Speaker 9 (01:52:52):
They are using it to control people and to gain
power and financial power, and it has absolutely nothing to
do with what is in that book.

Speaker 8 (01:52:59):
And it is disgusting.

Speaker 9 (01:53:01):
And you know, I look at this stuff that just
blows my mind that anybody could believe it.

Speaker 8 (01:53:06):
But there are tens of millions of Americans that do.

Speaker 9 (01:53:09):
And we have a lot of work to do to
push back and push this into the gutter where it
absolutely belongs.

Speaker 3 (01:53:18):
Yep. And they're just showing, I mean, God's like him
if you are a member of that church. We don't
want nothing to do with you, Nola, because you are
delusional as well.

Speaker 6 (01:53:33):
This isn't about Christianity. I'm not even about to sit
here and waste my Christian breath on talking about what
the Gospel is and what it isn't. I always ask
people if they've ever seen The Black Clansmen and if
they saw the end of the movie when Spike Lee
does this wonderful job of explaining David Duke's long plan
of infiltration, and so through my lens, this is how

(01:53:56):
I see this. This is infiltration. This is infiltration. And
you know when jeth Roe comes out of the overalls
and puts on the suit, you know, goes to the
good schools and you know, expands vocabulary and are infiltrated
in different parts of quote unquote polite society, even though

(01:54:16):
he's his delivery was calm as if you know, I'm
relatable and I'm the sensitive guy. I'm not trying to
be a racist. You know, Black Christians as we define
them are okay, but it's those other ones, right, So
this is us versus them, plain and simple. It is

(01:54:36):
not the Gospel. There is nothing that Jesus taught about
that was rooted in hate. So it's laughable, it's disgusting,
and in my view, the thing that you know, they
project a lot, the thing that they call demonic, is
exactly this. You are using the word of God and

(01:54:59):
you are earning it and twisting it into something gross
and detestable. But before we go Roland, I want to say,
you know, one thing, as we are sitting here in
reflection of ninety eleven and all the things that are
going on in our country, there is something else that
is also going on that is equally scary, and that

(01:55:20):
is what recently happened in Poland with nineteen drones entered
Russian drones entered Poland's airspace. So inasmuch as we have
things going on here domestically, we also have to keep
our eyes on what's happening around the world. And Hitler
in nineteen thirty nine invaded Poland in September. So these echoes,
these historical echoes, you know, we're not just feeling them

(01:55:43):
here domestically. It's happening around the world. And so I
know we are all overwhelmed and exhausted, but there's a
lot that's going on. I just want people to be
awake and aware.

Speaker 3 (01:55:58):
Well, well, we're dealing with a head getting grad. We
were seeing preachers like this here. These are the folks
who meet with Trump, the the people who meet the
met with numerous presidents and mayors and whatever. That dude
that will feel right at home if the White Citizens
Council came back, because no doubt he would be elected chair.

Speaker 4 (01:56:21):
Maybe yeah, maybe he would be elected chair. He certainly
be a member. Maybe he be elected chair. But I
mean the reason I was laughing, look at him, look
at him. See this is the kind of thing that
they try to get the trigger. I don't know that
you could get elected because they be looking at him.
Look at your car. And he asked, nobody gonna make
you the leader or nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
This is a man. Look, I mean, look at this guy.

Speaker 9 (01:56:41):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:56:42):
So I guess what I'm saying is this Cholie Kirk
was murdered yesterday and as a tragedy, and nobody should
be killed.

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
There's a common theme running through this whole thing. These
are the people who have.

Speaker 4 (01:56:52):
Lived their whole lives being ground into self esteem dust
by people who have clammed them for how they look,
how they sound. And it's a tragedy because that's the
kind of thing that nobody should have to endure. But
they found in this movement, in this white Nashtist movement,
in this male centered movement, some reason for being they

(01:57:12):
can be important. And I guess what I'm saying is,
and Noah, thank you for bringing up what happened in
Poland because the way I standing right, they evoked Article
four rather NATO Charter, which is the step they need
to do before they go to number five. We might
be on a ridge of World war right that might be.
It's probably the biggest story of the week what you
just debated. These Russians messing around here on this border,

(01:57:32):
and of course their wholly owned subsidiary. I can see
Putin making a call to Trump say pee boy, stat
of it, I mean, very easily.

Speaker 1 (01:57:41):
I mean, there's something going on in the world right
now that's gonna render all this irrelevant. But I'll end
with this. You know, people who feel.

Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
Like they've been diminished, they've been demean people who feel
like they've failed in life. Those people flock to people
like we just saw. Isn't just the message, it's the ethos,
it's the evid it's the image. And so you see
disheveled ass Steve Bannon, who's a millionaire leading these lemmings
off the cliff. You see guys like this talking very

(01:58:09):
calm in their dad jeans, with hiding behind their fake beard,
with their little man whatever that shit is that you
put in to make your beard gold dark, with them
glasses on, looking like he's trying to grow a chin
like Tom Cotton. I don't know what it is in Missouri,
and the senators ain't got no chance whether it's Tom
Cotton or Eric Schmidt. But this guy would be right

(01:58:29):
at home, like his neck goes right up to his book.
And so he's talking about giving the talk. Ain't nobody
listen to you, man, You get your eyes whip out
here in these streets. Ain't no listen if you're black,
like you said, ro and you listen to that, dude,
you got bigger problems than the talk. We just need
to get our asks. I'm sorry, No, I'm looking at

(01:58:50):
a guy like come man, really really like you said, Bro,
Like you said no, they ready started four to three,
and it's for right here.

Speaker 1 (01:58:58):
Who looks like what's his name? Listen?

Speaker 4 (01:59:00):
Our children would drag this man for filth. He looks
like what's the guy that made Star Wars, who's version
of George Lucas. Yeah, a cartoon George Lucas. Anybody listening
to you anyway, I'm sorry, I don't even know. I

(01:59:21):
don't even know if he went to seminary. All right, y'all, Uh,
that is it for us. Next week, next week, we
some stuff. Last week the best we prepare some stuff, y'all.
We're gonna play the best of the last seven years,
rollamant unfiltered.

Speaker 3 (01:59:38):
We were so busy with stories. Uh, and we're gonna
we're gonna roll that Monday and Tuesday. It we'll get y'all. Know,
y'all remember Philip from Philip from Indianapolis, that boy being
in witness protection after destroyed him. Well, the Republican Governor
of Indiana, y'all killed the music. Please kill the music.

(02:00:00):
Thank you. The Republican Governor of Indiana actually name him
executive director of the Indiana Civil Rights Commission. Seriously, And yes,
somebody sent me on Facebook, so you know I had
to comment, and I was like, hey, Philip is now
out of witness protection program after I destroyed his lame ass,

(02:00:22):
and so yeah, I can't wait. I can't matter of fact,
I think I'm gonna I think I'm gonna be in
Indiana September twenty first, maybe I will invite Philip to
come to the church. Well, it's the black church. I
don't know Philip gonna show up. I don't think. Yeah,
I don't think, because Philip more likely to show up

(02:00:43):
at Covenant Bible Church in Georgetown, Texas than he would
at a black church in Indianapolis. So I just want
to let y'all know that. So, yes, I'm being petty,
because I shall always be petty. Let me thank Nola,
Tim Gregg for being on today's show. Thank you so
very much. I appreciate all three of y'all being on
today's panel. Thanks a lot of a fantastic weekend, y'all.

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We're not gonna be shot of the products on my desk.
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closing the show up till we do it. M Well,
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We do this at the end of the show every

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