Historic Mississippi Shift: Dems Break GOP Grip, Shutdown Battle Enters New Phase

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Speaker 1 (00:21):
So it's Friday, November seven, twenty twenty five. Coming up
a Rolardbard unfiltered streaming livel of the Black Studying Network.
A big political shakeup in Mississippi as Republicans lose their
super majority into the Democrats.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Flip three key Senate seats.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Will talk to the newly elected senators and representative about
this history. When it's day thirty eight, the longest government
shut down in US history, Democrats unbail a new proposal
to end the stalemate?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Are they going to cave? Will they give in?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Also, we drive my conference on Jasmine Crockett talking about
all of these issues in our Black Study Network Marketplace
segment will showcase a jury collection that celebrates black and craftsmanship.

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Also on today's show.

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He's right on top.

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Best believe he's going.

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To politics with entertainment. Just then, case.

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It's stolen, he's donkey.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
She's filed a question.

Speaker 7 (02:25):
No, he's roll.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
I told you every vote matters. In Mississippi.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
For the first time in more than a decade, Republicans
no longer hold a supermajority.

Speaker 8 (02:47):
In the state Senate.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
The shift files a federal judges ruling their Mississippi's old
Supreme Court election map violated the Voting Rights Act by
diluting the voting power of black voters, prompting the state
of forcing them to redraw the map to reflect the
population better.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
As a result, Democrats flipped.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Three key Senate seats in one House seat, including a
major win for former Hettisburg Mayor Johnny Dupree, who captured
District forty five with about seventy percent of the vote.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Incumbent Democratic Senator.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Reginald Jackson of Marx secured re election in Senatate District
eleven was sixty seven percent of the vote, defeating his
Republican opponent Kendall Pruitt, and history was made in DeSoto
County as Teresa gilesbie Isom became the first black woman
ever elected to the state Senate from that area. While
Republicans still hold the majority of the supermajority.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Has dropped from thirty six to thirty four seats.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Meaning they'll need at least one Democrat to cross the
aisle to pass major legislation or override a governor's veto.
Joining us now is the Mississippi State Senator Reginald Jackson Jonas
in the moment, who had to run again for two
years because of the map. Will we also have a
State senidate elect three sent gilespie Isom and State Representative
elect Justin Crosby.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
How y'all doing.

Speaker 9 (04:02):
Doing well?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Glad to you can't Let's see can you hear us?

Speaker 10 (04:07):
Um?

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Teresa?

Speaker 8 (04:09):
Can you hear us?

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Three? I don't think Teresa can hear us? Folks?

Speaker 8 (04:17):
All right?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Teresa? Can you hear me?

Speaker 8 (04:20):
All right?

Speaker 2 (04:21):
So let's see here. Let me let me do a
roll call here, Justin can you hear me yes, sir?

Speaker 8 (04:26):
Sir?

Speaker 9 (04:26):
Lind clear?

Speaker 2 (04:27):
All right? Reginald, can you hear me yes?

Speaker 8 (04:30):
Sir?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
All right, So y'all, let me know. Let's figure out
why Teresa cannot hear us. Teresa, we got you. We
try to figure it out. So control room, y'all let
me know what's going on. So but let me first
start with you. Justin will walk us through again for
people who don't understand what was happening here. This is

(04:51):
the result of lawyers of lawsuits trying to force these
white Republicans in Mississippi to stop screwing over with black people.
And let's just be honest. This state has been screwtinal
black voter.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Since eighteen ninety with that constitutional convention.

Speaker 11 (05:07):
Absolutely, sir, it's been the goal of how do we
separate one point two million black people in one state?
And it's been Jared mandering ever since I was basically
a young young man. What we have is is that
we have to have courts come in and do the
job of the people. And I'm thankful because I wouldn't

(05:28):
be today as the resident Alets without that. So it
is a shame we had to do that. But again,
we're excited. We're excited to get to Jackson and get gone.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
All right, So we're not sure why Teresa cannot hear
sot's actually let me do this here control room. And
what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna let y'all try
to figure that out. Because so for the people who
are watching, they're all they're actually on one they're on
one thread. So we can hear two, we can hear one.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Okay, Teresa, you can hear.

Speaker 12 (06:01):
Us, now I can hear now.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Okay, there we go.

Speaker 8 (06:04):
All right.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Uh and if y'all are sitting here watching the show,
stop texting Teresa so her screen doesn't go away when
we're live.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
So we have them on a face.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Right, Well, what happened with your screen keeps pausing and
so that's what happens. So so justin I appreciate it
Harold as well. So first on Teresa's we said, have you.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Right, Yes, I'm good here, Okay, got it.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
So just let's just talk about what took place on
Tuesday night with the election. For folks who don't understand
how big.

Speaker 13 (06:40):
Is this, Well, on Tuesday night, we had a remarkable
race there in Desota County, and we had a turnout
on my race of sixty three point three percent. So
the people came out, we had canvassed all through the

(07:05):
Desola and Tunica and walls. So they came out and
they showed that they were ready to have a change
in Desota County.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
When you said sixty three, that was the that was
the total turnout, meaning.

Speaker 14 (07:21):
That was my.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
Results.

Speaker 14 (07:24):
Got election?

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Gotcha?

Speaker 1 (07:25):
So that that that's so you won with sixty three
percent of the vote.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's what you got. I did, got it, got it,
got it? Okay, I got it all right?

Speaker 8 (07:33):
Then? Uh?

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Justin just uh so and.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Also, Reginald's a Reginald, give me a sense of your
uh your race.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
What was that turnout? Uh? And and and and.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
How critically important was it for black voters to understand
that it's one thing to win the courts, but you
still got to show up on election day?

Speaker 15 (07:55):
All right.

Speaker 16 (07:56):
I was an incumbent due to the redistriction of the
lines of redrawn, and I had to run again. I
did have a Republican opponent, and we were able to
come to home with sixty seven percent of the total vote.
But Blackwater population has been taken down but about ten
percent from where it was. So that's a testament to
the people coming out to vote. I'd wager to say
that the other side did not believe that we would

(08:16):
vote the way that we did, and we came out
on top, and we won very, very big in District eleven.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I'll tell you. I'll tell you, Reginald. I'm sorry to Justin.
The thing that I keep saying over again on this
show is that where our voters are significant, we could
win numerous elections.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
One if we're turning out.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
We could stop a lot of these super majorities by
showing up and showing out. And I keep putting the
number that what we should be desiring is seventy percent turnout,
meaning if we got one hundred thousand black folks registered,
I don't want forty percent turning out.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I want forty one hundred thousand.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I want seventy thousand, one hundred thousand, because when you
voted those numbers, you win.

Speaker 9 (09:08):
Absolutely, sir, and I totally agree.

Speaker 11 (09:11):
Again, I'm in one of the most rural districts in Mississippi,
and so my turnout I got fifty percent of the vote,
but my turnout was twenty nine point four percent, which
is again a.

Speaker 9 (09:23):
Move with the right direction, but still incredibly low.

Speaker 11 (09:26):
I do think, though, what started this conversation was started
this movement for all of us was that we went
out and got in the streets. We went and talked
to people. We localized this election. I went to a
place called Woodland, Mississippi. It's been a long time since
I went down the street that had no concrete, just

(09:47):
clay roads. And they want to talk about paving those roads.
They don't care about Russia and Ukraine. They wanted to know, Hey,
you were black, I'm black, Will you represent me and
my interests? And I think that's what you saw on
Tuesday was that we got out when sold to people
and they responded.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
What what is your agenda? Uh?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Justin Uh, what's your what's your focus? What do you
want to achieve?

Speaker 9 (10:15):
So number one is rebuilding that bridge.

Speaker 11 (10:18):
I think it's Democrats nationally and locally. I think we
have some rebuilding to do. I think we have to
rebuild trust in our people.

Speaker 8 (10:26):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (10:27):
I think that we showed that they will come out
for us. But now what are we going to do
for me?

Speaker 15 (10:32):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (10:32):
That starts with uh the school vouchers.

Speaker 11 (10:35):
Uh Again, I'm I went to school right here in
Aberdeen where I'm from a great public high school that
you're already not fully funded. So if you're already not
fully funding us. Why would you have a vouchers program
that continues to dilute that that program? And so for me,
that's step one.

Speaker 17 (10:52):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (10:52):
Then the next, of course, is going to be healthcare.

Speaker 11 (10:55):
We have rural hospitals that are on the break of closing.

Speaker 9 (10:58):
Again these rule area is where we're from. You're already
forty five minutes an hour away from the rural hospitals.
Where do we go if they close?

Speaker 11 (11:07):
So we've got a lot of day one issues that
to talk about, but I think those are two key.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Teresa, what's your agenda?

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Teresa?

Speaker 8 (11:22):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 5 (11:25):
I can hear now. I couldn't hear anything when Justin
was speaking.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
I got you. What's your focus? What is your agenda?
Once you get to one.

Speaker 13 (11:33):
In, Well, my agenda is dealing with the full funding
of our public schools and also with affordable healthcare. I
have been a nurse and a nurse administrator of a
nursing school, so being that the school system is being

(11:53):
affected and also with a healthcare those are my two
major issues that I want to focus in on once
I am sworn in.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
And Reginald.

Speaker 17 (12:06):
I handle those sentiments of my newly elected colleagues.

Speaker 16 (12:09):
We're focusing on public school systems and our healthcare systems
here Mississippi. We're the sicke oft state in this nation
by far, and we're trying to get better. We have
people in place now that could help us do that.
So I'm looking forward to what's going on here in
the state of Mississippi. I'm looking forward to getting the
voters more engaged and keeping them engaged and increasing that turnout.
Right now, we are seeing a change. We're seeing a
change in attitude and perception of politics of the people

(12:31):
of this state are waking up and they know that
it is time for a change.

Speaker 17 (12:34):
And I'm excited to be a part of that change.

Speaker 16 (12:36):
So my focus is to get those people more engaged
and more likely to come out and vote and support
the policies that will best support them in the healthy Mississippi.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
All right, folks, well look I shertainly appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Congratulations and good luck with your new found power.

Speaker 14 (12:53):
Thanks a lot, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
All right, An, I'm gonna bring our panel join us
right right now. Michael Michael m Hotep hosts African History
Network Show Detroit. Candace Kelly, legal analysts and hosts not
all hood South Orange, New Jersey. Matt Manning Howard University graduate,
Civil Wars attorney out of Corpus Christie never even went

(13:18):
to the University of Texas. But he's wearing their stuff
and he's not doing like I am because I'm repping
deal it today. But glad to have that, Matt. What
are y'all like twentieth or something like that. I can't
even remember. It's way way low than where we are.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Let me start. Let me start with you, Candy. Yeah,
you have nothing to say, nothing, not a word, not
a word.

Speaker 17 (13:42):
Yet I got something for you.

Speaker 14 (13:43):
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yes, no you don't. No, you don't because you won't
be in the playoffs. All right, Candace, I'll start with you.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
We keep talking about power, and again we're going to
keep emphasizing the black folks.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
We got to maximize our power.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
I came saying, if you in a room and as
dark and as a lamp, you got to plug it
in if you want to get some light. And I
just think too many of our folks are not. We're
not maximizing our power. And we see what happens there.
This is were created. We turned out boom, they win.

Speaker 18 (14:19):
Yeah, And you know, a lot of the power has
to do with actually knowing the system, because you have
to get into the system, and ultimately the courts do
decide a lot of the changes that actually go on.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Now, do you want the Supreme Court today actually deciding
something on that level.

Speaker 18 (14:33):
You do not, not the way that they're bent. But
this is a time where the courts did step in
and it was it was advantageous.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
But people have to understand that every time we see
something like this happens, you have to take the civic
lesson in it. You have to know the local politics.

Speaker 18 (14:50):
You have to know who's on the school board, you
have to know you know what it means to be
a governor, what it means to kind of go up
that way and actually be a representative, a congress person,
be someone who represents your state. You have to take
notice of what's going on so that you can actually
get in the game.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
I look at all of this and tell people, look
at this as a civic lesson.

Speaker 18 (15:11):
That you never ever got in school, that you may
not have even gotten in college, no matter where you.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Got, not today's politics. So to see this actually happen
and unfold the way that it has is really quite
a remarkable event. I mean, I'm wondering how they are making.

Speaker 18 (15:27):
People feel in light of the what thirty eighth day
of the government shutdown, But it's a feel good energy
that's out there to know that those three have made
it this far. Very interested in seeing their agendas and
how it will carry out.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Michael, Michael can barely hear you, Michael, you marked that off.
Y'all need to pick out there we go testing.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Can you hear me? Now? We got you go?

Speaker 17 (16:05):
Okay.

Speaker 19 (16:06):
So this is a fantastic victory, and it shows what
happens when lawsuits were filed to create the extra districts
for African Americans. But also when the representatives were speaking,
they talked about being on the ground, communicating with constituents,
communicating with voters about issues, whether it's rural hospitals, whether

(16:29):
it was new roads because they're dealing with clay roads.
They were talking about issues that impacted them on the ground.
And that's a lot different than what you'll see on
MSNBC or CNN. Okay, So this is why this is important,
and this shows what happens when African Americans mobilized and
my question would be, how do they keep these voters engaged?

(16:53):
How do they keep them engaged through twenty twenty five
into twenty twenty six for the midterm elections.

Speaker 17 (16:59):
I think that'stly important.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Matt. Lawyers matter. Yeah, lawyers matter.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Lawsuits matter, because that's what forced this change. The federal
judge ruled.

Speaker 14 (17:12):
Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 20 (17:14):
Lawsuits matter, and we need to continue putting these suits
in the court and making the courts make the right decisions.

Speaker 14 (17:20):
Now, Candice said something earlier, I think it's true.

Speaker 20 (17:22):
You know, the Supreme Court is on a horrible trajectory
as we see them every time they rule.

Speaker 14 (17:28):
And the ways they shouldn't be ruling.

Speaker 20 (17:30):
So, you know, I'm glad that here you have a
lower court that made the right decision, and I'm hoping
that they continue to.

Speaker 14 (17:36):
Hold their ground. And what I hope comes out of.

Speaker 20 (17:38):
This is that what we just had with the elections
across the country on Tuesday, I'm hoping that the Democrats
there in Mississippi recognize how much power they have and
hopefully now really make the Republicans work with them and
or just hold them hostage when they need to, because
I think the votes in Virginia and New Jersey, and
in New York City and in some other places indicate

(17:59):
that people are okay and want the Democrats to play hardball.
So now they've got better numbers to hopefully do that
because that super majority has been mixed. So I'm glad
to see this, and you're right, lawyers and courts do better.
Today is actually Love your Lawyer Day. So y'all show
me some love. M go ahead, I know you're gonna
say something.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
What did you say?

Speaker 8 (18:24):
It is?

Speaker 14 (18:27):
Today is lawyer?

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Today?

Speaker 14 (18:28):
Is Love your Lawyer Day? Cans were you aware of
this national Love your Lawyer Day?

Speaker 18 (18:33):
I will say, I'm not sure where you're going with this,
but but I'm a co sign, Matt.

Speaker 14 (18:38):
I'm a co sign, Matt.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
You always co sign, so you know what it's paying off.

Speaker 20 (18:42):
Right, he said, I always coached. He's like, you don't
even be thinking about what I say, Matt, you just
co sign it.

Speaker 14 (18:48):
Don't do me like that, kid.

Speaker 18 (18:50):
No, I'm gonna co sign what you say. Yeah, yeah,
that Love your Lawyer Day. I am equally aware.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Don't do that. Don't please don't do that. Oh my god,
let me go to break.

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We're gonna go to break, we come back. We're gonna
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Speaker 1 (22:18):
In his day thirty eight, the longest government shut down
in American history. On the Senate floor, Minority Leader Chuck
Schumer laid out a new Democratic counter proposal for any
of the government's shut down.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Check this out.

Speaker 25 (22:30):
We'd like to offer a simple proposal that would reopen
the government and extend the ACA premium tax credits simultaneously,
and then have the opportunity to start negotiating longer term
solutions to healthcare costs.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Let's do all three.

Speaker 25 (22:51):
I've spoken with my caucus and Democrats are offering a
very simple compromise. Democrats are ready to clear the way
to quickly pass a government funding bill that includes health
care affordability.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Leader Thun just needs.

Speaker 25 (23:06):
To add a clean one year extension of the ACA
tax credits to the CR so that we can immediately
address rising health care costs. That's not a negotiation. It's
an extension of current law, something we do all the
time around here, as we all know. But we also

(23:27):
offer this, Let's create a bipartisan committee that will continue
negotiations after the government reopens on reforms ahead of next
year's enrollment period to provide long term certainty that healthcare
costs will be more affordable. This proposal reopens the government
and insures working families who are shopping right now for

(23:50):
their healthcare get certainty and financial relief while open enrollment
has begun, Insurers can update their race after we pass
a simple extension of the tax credits. With this approach,
we do not negotiate health care in the shutdown, as
Leader Thune has maintained he wishes, and the American people

(24:13):
get the tax credit extension they want That is what
many of our Republican colleagues have floated over the last
six weeks as a compromise, a one year tax credit
extension and reforms to the credit. Beyond that, we will
agree with the Republican Republican request not to start negotiations

(24:33):
until after the government reopens. All Republicans have to do
is say yes to extend current law for one year.
It makes sense, and since what we're proposing is only
a simple extension of current law, the Senate.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Could do this within a few hours.

Speaker 25 (24:54):
This is a reasonable offer that reopens the government, deals
with healthcare affordability, and begins the process of negotiating reforms
to the ACA tax credits for the future. Now the
ball is in the Republicans' court. We need Republicans to

(25:15):
just say yes.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Now.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
The proposal comes amid mounting pressure from unions and fellow
Democrats who emphasize the urgency of resolving the shutdown. However,
the Republican House Speaker My Johnson remains noncommittal about voting
to extend the subsidies.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Leaving uncertainty around any deal.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Now, y'all want to hear some stupidity, So Republican Leader
John Thune. This is what he said. He says something
that would just so profoundly dumb to me. This unbelievable.
I can't believe he actually in vote Capitol police, listen
to this.

Speaker 26 (25:53):
Junior senator from Connecticut certainly believes in saying the quiet
part out loud. This is what he said, and I quote,
I think there will be some pretty substantial damage done
to a Democrat brand that has been rehabilitated if on
the heels of an election in which the people told
us to keep fighting, we immediately stop fighting. You said

(26:17):
that on a podcast yesterday. It went on to say
that the twenty twenty sixth election is just twelve months away,
and if we surrender without having gotten anything, and we
cause a lot of folks in this country who had
started to believe in the Democrat Party to retreat again, I.

Speaker 27 (26:34):
Worry that it will be hard to sort of.

Speaker 26 (26:36):
Get them back up off the mat in.

Speaker 27 (26:39):
Time for next falls election cycle.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
End quote.

Speaker 26 (26:45):
Let me repeat that, mister President, this is what he said.
I worry that it will be hard to sort of
get them back up off the mat in time for
next falls election cycle.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
End quote.

Speaker 26 (27:00):
Got to let that sink in for a minute as president.
I don't think it's a secret to anybody that the
Democrats shut down the.

Speaker 27 (27:08):
Government for political reasons.

Speaker 26 (27:11):
There's been plenty of news coverage of the incredible pressure
that their far left base has been exerting.

Speaker 27 (27:18):
But in case anyone was still under the.

Speaker 26 (27:20):
Impression that Democrats were driving this shut down toward its
fortieth day out of concern for the American people, well,
the junior Democrat from Connecticut pretty handily dispelled that notion.

Speaker 27 (27:36):
Again, that's what he said.

Speaker 26 (27:39):
I worry that it'll be hard to sort of get
them back off the mat in time for next falls
election cycle.

Speaker 27 (27:44):
End quote.

Speaker 26 (27:47):
And just in case anyone needed any additional testimony, Axios
reported on Wednesday, and I quote a set of post
election talking points circularly.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I here's what was interesting than was complaining about and
saying then how their Democrats should come in here. They're
being protected by Capitol police, and these people can't pay
their bills and their kids are going out. You mean
the same Capitol police that y'all wanted me to put
a plaque up honoring them that was passed by law.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Oh both health police. Okay, I got you join us
right now.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Co coated the repairs of the breach for People's campaign,
Bishop William Barbara, Bishop Barbara, you heard Schumer talk about
this compromise.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
What should we be doing? Do we accept this and
we could keep the pressure.

Speaker 28 (28:33):
On Well, First of all, that word compromise is just
bothers me so much with Democrats, even when you have
a pure state fart made issues. You told people that
you were going to fight to get the health care
and to protect health care. Now you're talking about a compromise.
Why would you compromise on the fordable care. It's already
a compromise. Most people wanted universal health care. Most people

(28:58):
want what every Senator and every congress person gets when
they get elected to Congress. Every time they talk about compromise,
it looks weak. It is weak. People are fired up.
People are standing why would you even Murphy, it was
a centatatic Connecticut were saying, why would you stop fighting now?
And then Roland? Why would you trust them with an

(29:21):
open government? Because you know, like I know, as soon
as they get back, they're gonna lie and change and
not do what they promise, find ways to get around it.
I mean, this is who you're dealing with. You can't
suddenly change them. They have to be beaten by people
standing on their marral hard ground. People are already hurting

(29:44):
in the South, for instance, they're only two or three
states in the South that have even expanded, havecare even
brought into the affordable care and medicaid expansion. And so
why stop now at the very moment that people are
standing up, well, why did the Democrats always have to
come to the table with the compromise instead of letting
the Republicans come and just stand on your point? Our

(30:07):
point is leave the Affordable Care Act alone, don't try
to desubsidize it, and we can open the government back
of vote to do that.

Speaker 8 (30:18):
Vote take stend.

Speaker 28 (30:19):
It's clear, it's so clear that why would you mess
it up by adding something else into the mix and
talking about another compromisey? And these these so called moderates,
you know, doctor King said the greatest a problem to
the civil rights community were moderates who were more interested
in order and looking good than dealing with problems. And

(30:39):
they're going to every time get us in more and
more trouble. And the people are really sick of this.
Stand on your principles, man, that's what we need.

Speaker 27 (30:50):
It.

Speaker 28 (30:50):
We need to be calling them, rolling, everybody to be
calling them, and don't let them say, well, people are hurting,
people are being hurting. Even before all of this, undred
and forty million people are in poverty, eighty seven million
people uninsured or under insured for me without living Wait,
don't talk about people are hurting now, They've been hurting.
And if that's the issue, then you should have been

(31:12):
fighting a long time ago, you know, for live with
This is the same group roller that when we could
have had past living wages almost seven to sixteen dollars
an hour in twenty twenty one, Democrats, these moderists joined
the Republicans in the Senate and blocked living wages.

Speaker 8 (31:30):
It's the same group.

Speaker 28 (31:31):
They always end up leaning into their corporate sponsor whoever
they are, and walking away from the people. And it's wrong,
and we need to cry it out and say it.

Speaker 8 (31:41):
And call in and pushing, push and push.

Speaker 28 (31:45):
Don't you give up now, don't you turn back now,
Don't don't do that, because that is actually the wrong
place to be in this moment.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
So on that particular point again, so for the folks
who're watching, the folks who are listening, the action that
you want them to take if you want them to
call Chuck Schumer's office uh and say take the compromise
off the table and specifically say.

Speaker 8 (32:08):
What specifically say. Stay where you started.

Speaker 28 (32:13):
You said that your goal was to protect the Affordable
Care Act. You said that you were against the big
ugly dad to Destructorville that would take twenty some million
people's healthcare. You said that you were going to protect
extend not for a but you protect them period. You
were gonna make it so that never would they touch that.

(32:35):
And that needs to be your position. What's gonna happen
magically in a year? What's what is this group the
so call gonna get any compromise again? Roland, It's already
a compromise. I would I want for to hear that
the Affordable Care Act in itself is a compromise because
it's not universal health care. So one, stay where you started,

(32:57):
Stay on the wall, stay on that, don't let push
you off.

Speaker 8 (33:00):
Stay at that point.

Speaker 28 (33:03):
Take your hands off healthcare, don't touch the subsidies, don't
try to change it, none of that. And if they
can greet the Republicans, you want them to say yes
to that, rather than you saying, oh, here, we are.
We just want to fix it for a year. Just
don't touch it for a year and listen to this role.
If they do it a year, then this is what

(33:23):
people need to hear. Let's just say they wild agree
to this. A year would put you two weeks after
the elections in twenty twenty six. So now you've taken
a political.

Speaker 8 (33:34):
Issue off the table.

Speaker 28 (33:38):
In other words, there are times that politicians need to
pay for the consequences of the action. Don't take this
issue off the table at the very moment that people
are coming alive and standing and standing strong and refusing
to go along with their lives anymore. This is the
wrong time to be talking about compromise. They should be
talking about commitment.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
So many different folk.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
To your point, we saw what happened election night. We
saw folk coming out. We saw folk who were saying, hey,
we want to see change. We saw red seats that
were flipped as well.

Speaker 15 (34:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
And and this is not a moment to actually slow
your mo minentum down. You got Donald Trump over there,
he's so if he freaking out so much, he's demanding
Republicans get rid of the filibuster.

Speaker 28 (34:30):
Yeah, let me tell you something that Roland we had
mayor's seats in North Carolina.

Speaker 8 (34:34):
You know, I'm repairs positive.

Speaker 28 (34:37):
We had mayor's seats, thought would go a certain direction,
and the people that turn out changed them in North Carolina,
all over the country, not just in New York, Mississippi.
Mississippi broke the Republicans be tot proof jobnity in Mississippi
of all places. And so again, you know, seven million

(34:59):
people in the streets, that's a few weeks ago. No
kings saying marrow Monday's picking up clergy impact the people.
We were just in the Capitol last week meeting with
our King Jeffries, will impact the people black and white
and others.

Speaker 8 (35:15):
Mates and.

Speaker 28 (35:17):
Just saying hold time, don't change these and these are
people who really are hurting, but they recognize that will
hurt worse if we allow these extremists Magnaphoe any room
to further destroy healthcare. And you know, if they get
the government back open, that's what they're gonna do. You
know that, lion, you cannot trust them in the negotiation.

(35:38):
When have they ever kept that word in the negotiation?
The problem is it continued then in the Senate always
ends up doing it. They call themselves compromise. So they
compromised on their afford on voting rights act. Guess what,
ll we don't have a voting rights act. They compromised
in some ways on this big ugly thing to.

Speaker 8 (35:59):
Be what do we that we end up with a bill.

Speaker 28 (36:01):
Twenty two million people lose the health care, said, teeny
people lose the healthcare.

Speaker 8 (36:04):
Twenty two million people.

Speaker 28 (36:05):
Use this snap compromised in a time that calls for
UH courage is actually insane.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Uh. I saw this clip.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
I was coming in and Mehdi Hassan was on the
Breakfast Club UH and Charlottmaine the God said that Charlamagne
said that that the Democrats, you know, uh should should
vote in the shutdown.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
And Mehdi said why.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
He said, Republicans are in controlled, they got the House,
they got to send it together White House.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
He said, Uh, and and and and and.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Maddi said the Republicans are acting like petulant children. And
then Charlamagne said, Uh, well, that's why the why Democrats
should do it. He's like, because Republicans are not gonna
do it. And then Mehdi said, why is it up
to them? Why do the Democrats have to always be
the grown ups. Why do they always have to be
the ones that say the Republicans He said that the

(36:57):
Republicans get to say and do whatever they want because
they know that Democrats.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Are going to be the ones who are reasonable.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
So he said, hell no, he said, sit there and
force him to say, it's your shut down.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
You have the power.

Speaker 28 (37:12):
You ended well, not only that the government didn't shut
down because Democrats just wanted to shut it down. It
shut down because the Republicans were going to destroy the
affordable care Let's get that straight. That's why they shut
it down. Because they were going to destroy and Democrats
refused to go along with the demands of Trump, so

(37:35):
they shut the government down. They shut it down because
they would rather steal take food from the poor and
steal it rob health care from the city. Let's be
clear what this is about. Everybody needs to be clear.
It's not just about that they have the power. They
have the majority. Nobody wins a majority.

Speaker 8 (37:54):
When they win, a.

Speaker 28 (37:55):
Majority has the right to run rough shot over the constitution,
have a right to violate the constitution.

Speaker 8 (38:03):
That's what they have done with their power.

Speaker 28 (38:05):
They have given more money, they have transferred more money
from the poor and work people that was transferred from
the slaves to the slave master. With their power, they
passed bill that will cost fifty one thousand people. They
are live fifty one thousand people their lives in the

(38:26):
first year because of what's being taken in health care.
And Senator Murphy the other day reminded folk. He said,
this is not about Democratic Republicans. This is about life
and death. If they would have kept the government open
and would have allowed them to do what they were
going to do to undermine and destroy the Futable Care Act,
for every five hundred thousand people rolling that lose health care,

(38:50):
something in the neighborhood of twenty eight to twenty hundred
and three thousand people die.

Speaker 8 (38:55):
That's what this is about.

Speaker 28 (38:57):
And this is happening in a time when eight hundred
people are already dying every day from poverty from the
policies that keep poverty alive in this country. That doesn't
have to exist. So I would say, even to my brothers,
whoever they are, just get our facts straight.

Speaker 8 (39:16):
This is not a game.

Speaker 28 (39:17):
This is not about who has power and just letting
them do what they want to do.

Speaker 8 (39:21):
This is about life and death.

Speaker 28 (39:23):
The Democrats had to make a stand otherwise, thousands and
thousands and excuse me, millions and millions of.

Speaker 8 (39:30):
People would lose the very.

Speaker 28 (39:33):
Thing that every member of Congress gets when they get elected.
And I wish more people would talk about that and say, listen,
you got people in Congress, in the United States Senate
and in the House who before.

Speaker 8 (39:46):
They get elected, they.

Speaker 28 (39:47):
May not even have health care or they've got just
a little bit. As soon as they get elected, they
get the best healthcare in the entire world.

Speaker 8 (39:57):
What kind of sickness is in your spirit? That?

Speaker 28 (40:01):
And then once you get it, you don't want the
people that elected you or the people from your state
that have the same thing.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
So it's a Bishop Barbara. So again we talk about
what's going on.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
So, uh, the increase in premiums, these letters have started
going out. Yes, so some will say, well, that's already happened.
So people are people are hurting. You've got folks, folks
not getting paychecks.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
You've got that benefits being cut.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
So therefore, if you if you extend the government shut down,
then you're further hurting those people. And since they're going
to raise premiums, there's really nothing you could do. So
Democrats should capitulate. They should go ahead and say, well.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
We'll give in. Let's go ahead and reopen the government again.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
You know, what do you say to those folks who
might even say, wait a minute. You know, Schumer's offering
a one year compromise, why not take that and reopen
now and then fight six nine months down the road.

Speaker 28 (41:13):
But first of all, let me just take the end
we ought to fight number two. You know, you got
to look at the history of who you're dealing with.
Every time they get one year extensions, they come right
back to the same thing. This is and I think
we're arguing from the wrong perspective. See, this is what
I think Democrats should do first before they put anything
on the table compromise. Whatnot bring everybody you can to

(41:38):
the Capitol that's gonna be hurt by what they're doing,
who are currently losing. They could do that. They could
summon everybody from that district that are getting letter and
let those folks speak. Let those people tell you what
do I can tell you that the people we took
last week, we didn't talk Roland for them.

Speaker 8 (41:59):
They talk for them self. They said.

Speaker 28 (42:03):
It's some pain now, but don't give these people the
power to hurt us anymore. Yes, we're hurting, but hold
the line, put us on TV, put us in front
of the American people. That's part of the reason that
sometimes you end up having to offer compromise because you
continue to argue without the people. You know, like I know,

(42:25):
when Republicans want to get something, the first thing they
do is put a face on it. They put a
face on it. And so rather than that they had
an insurrection. Why not in this moment, right now, headed
toward Thanksgiving, why not Democrats take the time to mobilize
thousands of people to come in the halls one a

(42:48):
public hearing outside on the steps of the Capitol, and
let people come up, the people that are like the
young boy that got his letter, other they had cerebral palsy,
you know, bring them up and that them hall, let
them say, not only do we not want you to compromise,
We don't want to compromise coming out of there. We
want you to take your hand damn hands off our

(43:09):
health care. And and and if you're gonna come from
a position of strength, not from a position of well,
we're gonna offer you a year and then we're gonna
bring a bipartisan group together. There's no bipartisanism in the
Congress anymore. You got MAGA. You don't even have Republicans.
You've got MAGA and some and Democrats and shades of

(43:33):
Democrat that that they are following the lead of Donald Trump.
He's already said what he wants. And if I tell you,
if they get back in, there is no reason and
there is no law that says roller they have to
keep that compromise once stay open. So let me just
say that the foul understand where we are. They could

(43:55):
say yes, we will a compromise over and then turn
right around wants to dumb open and reneg on it.
They've done it before and they could beare well do
it again.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Questions from the panel came this you first, well, you know,
I firmly agree.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
I mean, what are you going to do with one year?
Because in one year you'd.

Speaker 18 (44:17):
Be back at the same position that you will again.
You talk about gathering people together and bringing them down
and making sure.

Speaker 14 (44:25):
Their voices are heard.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
What really is the best way to do.

Speaker 18 (44:28):
That in terms of in terms of the time, in
terms of how quickly one would want these subsidies to
be put back in place. When we're talking about bringing
people together, it takes a lot of organization, wondering what
we leave would be the first step, and making sure
that people's voices are heard in some way.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
On some level.

Speaker 28 (44:48):
Well, first of all, they need to turn it into
a campaign, and that moral campaign and not just made
of a political And what do we do in campaigns?
You can say if Rollard made was running for president,
he got a campaign, he could say I'm going to
Houston by Monday, and Monday they would have a stadium pack.
Go find those folk, Go find those votes there and

(45:09):
turn them loose on this.

Speaker 8 (45:11):
See, run it like a campaign. You know, they are.

Speaker 28 (45:15):
Running a campaign of meanness. We need to run a
crusade of love and a crusade of justice. Right, So
there are people out here that know how to do this.
You know they could they know how to do it.
They could mass mobilize in a moment and turn some
of this money and you know what do we spend
ten billion dollars on the last election. Well take the

(45:36):
five hundred thousand, five hundred million and get busses and
everything and get people up here. This could be done,
But you have to decide. And this is what I'm
concerned about. I wonder sometimes sell out after the election
of New York and some other things. We said, if
there are them thems who don't really want to see
a massive movement of the people, because a massive movement

(45:59):
of the people is not just it's gonna change MAGA,
it's gonna change them.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Before I go to before I go to Matt Bishop Barbara,
a federal's appeals court late UH is leaving in place
a lower court decision that requires UH Donald Trump and
the administration to swiftly provide full benefits to the forty
two million million people.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Who are on staff.

Speaker 15 (46:24):
UH.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
It was from the US Court of Appeals for the
First Circuit, UH that made it clear. Because Trump appealed
that lower court decision. They said, the pills Court said, no,
you got to You got to send them the money.

Speaker 28 (46:36):
That's right, you got to send them the money. And
if he doesn't, we're in constitutional crisis. And that's why
we're really headed with this, because UH, this business of
him saying, well, I'm gonna do partial, I'm gonna do
a little bit. And by the way, the people are hungry.
Now you know, my wife pastors and and and she's
getting called up to call up the call from all
these agencies now trying to find out where there's food,
where there's uh uh, what's going on again? You got

(47:01):
these people rolling that know how to do mass organization.
They've got mass money set up. If you really want
to be radical democrats, set up a massive food bank
right on the steps of the Capitol and have people
come there and getting their food and testified. I mean,
this is the moment we got to do things that
are different, that are radical, that put a face on
this so that it's not just a left versus right argument,

(47:23):
a dim versus Republican that we really really expose that
this is about life and death. And I want to
keep emphasizing that to your panel. We passed a bill,
the Condess passed a bill even with that, the one
that took food stamps and SNAP and now the additional

(47:44):
things that's happening with SNAP that when that deal was signed,
we signed the death certificates of fifty one thousand people.
That has not been talked about enough, that has not
been put out there enough running from that issue and
this is fundamentally a moral issue about life and depth

(48:05):
and them should be figured out how do we take
the same campaign energy when we're running for office and
apply it to this month, this moment.

Speaker 8 (48:14):
And you remember Roland back in.

Speaker 28 (48:16):
The day when a president had a budget or something,
they would get on the road yep, and they would
stop promoting it everywhere. Well, that needs to happen right now.
But different than it being on the road, we ought
to make the people in DC have to see the
people that are hurting.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yep. Absolutely put a face on it, Matt.

Speaker 20 (48:36):
So my question, Reverend doctor Barber is I agree with
you completely. I'm just interested in your thought about how
the Dems shape that messaging. I know you're talking about
them doing it as a campaign and framing it morally,
which makes perfect sense.

Speaker 14 (48:49):
But I think their fear.

Speaker 20 (48:51):
Is that if they let it language too long, they're
going to look like they played into the suffering of
the people.

Speaker 14 (48:56):
I mean, I think you spoke to that.

Speaker 20 (48:58):
So how do they need to shape that messaging now
so on the back end of this shutdown it doesn't
look like they played into that, you know, callously.

Speaker 28 (49:07):
Well, the people want to come and speak. That's one
thing that I'm bringing to you from being on earth.
We've been doing Tomorrow Monday's in ten southern states, and
the folk that are coming to Hiru, they want to come,
dc they want to speak, And I actually, you are
stronger if you had thousands of people to come and
had around the clock testifying of those people and people listening,

(49:28):
then you could say, we're responding to what the people want.
But you know, let the people say, because there are
moments that people will say, I'm gonna suffer anyway.

Speaker 8 (49:38):
Let me choose the suffering. Let me choose it.

Speaker 28 (49:41):
And the suffering I choose, you know, is the one
that's going to ensure that they don't do the ultimate damage.
So I think there's a way of letting the people speak.
But the problem is we haven't done that. Even when
they were working on the big, bad, ugly daily bill,
you know, for two laws, them's allowed it to be

(50:03):
just a political bill rather than a moral issue and
bringing people in. I don't know, and I'll be first
to say everything that will happen if we do this,
but I know what's gonna happen if we don't. What's
gonna happen if we don't is a few folks gonna
get in the room, do a compromise and We're gonna

(50:24):
be right back in the same place, and we may
be in a worse place because we're dealing with people
who have no credibility, no conviction, and no commitment to
the truth. They will lie to you to get what
they want and then turn right around and do what
they want.

Speaker 8 (50:45):
We've seen that, Michael.

Speaker 17 (50:49):
Revert, William Barber.

Speaker 19 (50:52):
We've seen Trump delays not payments to put pressure on
Democrats and the constituents. We've seen him resend construction projects
like for New York, New Jersey the eighteen billion dollar
tunnel to put economic pressure on ha King, Jeffries and
Senator Schumer. Do you think Democrats need to organize and

(51:17):
their constituency to organized to put economic pressure on Republicans?
And as doctor King taught us, to redistribute the pain
through target and sustained economic with draw strategies, maybe target
the top three or four corporations they help finance these
Republicans and Trump to put them in power. This is
the perfect time of the year because we're going into
the Christmas season. What are your thoughts on that. Has

(51:38):
there been a talk of economic withdraw strategies to put
economic pressure on Republicans?

Speaker 28 (51:45):
There is some conversation about that, recognizing that there has
to be multiple strategies. One of the things you learned,
even if you go back to the Montgomery movement, I
want to go too far. People think it was just
one thing. It was multiple strategies. Yeah, it was economic. Yeah,
and that does not change litigation, agitation, mobilization, vote participation,
economic uh uh uh, power, economic protests as well. I

(52:10):
think it needs to be Yes, it needs to be
across the board.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Uh.

Speaker 28 (52:13):
And I think that one of the things we need
to look at how we go into this season, uh
politically rolling an argument to convene a group really soon
to take a look at you know what what really
uh what what number should we be looking at, even
in terms of voting, to raise the number of African

(52:35):
Americans and others that turn out that could make some
of this gerry mandering and become dummy mandering, because you know,
im Prestons in my state, what they're doing to the
first congressional district.

Speaker 8 (52:46):
Uh.

Speaker 28 (52:47):
And we're talking about both in that district since they
want to challenge it. We're talking about some economic what
kind of issues, but we're also talking about some massive
voter mobilization because they have drawn these maps based on
a forty five percent turnout, which means if we do
a fifty five percent turnout, the maps get turned over.

(53:08):
So I think my answer to your simple question is yes,
that we should be looking at Damns, are whoever, and
Margot should be looking at every area. Now the one
thing you have to do. And then you said, I
love what you said about targeting. You know, let's go
back to something by your reference there he said. You know,
if you're going to start up a targeted economic pressure,

(53:30):
you don't go everywhere and try to do it all
over at the same time.

Speaker 8 (53:34):
You have to target.

Speaker 28 (53:36):
You have to target, whether in a state, whether it
be in a You can't just announce it. And you
don't want to do that unless you're serious about it.
And that's why again, one of the things I think
that can make people more serious about what you're saying
is to first see the faces of the people. This
thing is still too technical. It's still too technical, right

(54:01):
and and we're trying mar groups are trying with them
a few dollars that we have and trying to mobilize
and push out. But I contend that the powers that
be that claim they care for these folks that have
all of this money are to move from a inside
the way political strategy to a campaign strategy, and that

(54:21):
campaign strategy that include multiple layers of pushback, even the
economic feed.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
All right, thank you, Mish William Barbara.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
All was a pleasure. We got to keep the pressure up.

Speaker 8 (54:36):
Thank you them. Take care my friend, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Thanks a bunch.

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Think about that for a second.

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That's not all.

Speaker 29 (55:54):
Black women are three times more likely to die in
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Speaker 18 (56:01):
These healthcare systems are inherently racist.

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Supremacists, ideas and mythologies around Black women, black women's bodies,
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Book bands anti intellectualism and Trump's continued war on wisdom.

Speaker 31 (56:46):
This is a coordinated backlash to progress. At the end
of the day, conservatives realized that they couldn't win a
debate on facts which.

Speaker 17 (56:54):
Are using our language against us.

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Speaker 2 (56:57):
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That kind of stuff. Now everything is anti world.

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higher education, Now it's anti d all this our efforts
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Speaker 1 (58:18):
You know, a corrupt person has no problem freeing other
corrupt people. The twice impeached, criminally convicted Fella in Chief
Donald the contruct parton two Maga Tennessee legislators who were
weeks away from reporting to federal prison. Former Tennessee House

(58:40):
Speaker Glenn Cassada and his top aide cade Conferin, were
convicted at trial of more than a dozen public corruption
charges related to a scheme what prosecutors said they, along
with former state Representative Robin Smith, defrauded taxpayers through a
state funded Mailler program. In September, US District Judge Elive

(59:04):
Richardson ordered Cassida to self report to the Federal Bureau
Prisons on November twenty first, where he wants to.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Serve a three year prison term.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
He order confering to self report to prison on November
seventeenth to serve a two and a half year prison term.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
But Donald Trump said, y'all, ain't gotta worry about that.
I mean, you know what. The Biden people pursued, y'all,
and you know what, you not going to federal prison.
You not going to federal prison.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
In addition to that, Donald Trump also pardoned another corrupt dude.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Out of New York.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah, let me pull that one up, y'all.
And the Trump folks said, oh, oh no, no, no,
that that guy. He didn't do anything wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:00:01):
That that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
He actually he actually was tricked.

Speaker 8 (01:00:06):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
So Trump, They parton an ex cop who was convicted
in a Chinese plot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Michael McMahon, prosecutor.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Said he acted as a legal agent in the conspiracy
to targeted Chinese family in New Jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
White House says, oh no, no, no, he was tricked.
He was tricked.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
He was sentenced to eighteen months in prison for his
participation in a Chinese government plot to locate, surveil, and
intimidate a New Jersey family. Donald Trump said, naw, we're good.
What you have here, Candice, is Donald Trump passing out

(01:00:45):
get out of jail favors. Many people suspect he getting
kickbacks to do it. Dis management, damn about the rule
of law. He has led more people off for corruption.
Just shameful, despicable and his and retires all the Biden's
over pursued, over pursued, even when their case is where

(01:01:06):
the prosecution started under his.

Speaker 18 (01:01:08):
Ass So you know what he is doing is he
is placed displacing the whole judicial process because people who
go through and they're corrupt and they're convicted.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Of certain crimes, they know that.

Speaker 18 (01:01:22):
You know what, in my back pocket, I might have
Donald Trump because there's no limitation to the amount of
pardons and clemency.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
That he that he can give. So you are right,
this is something that has become highly politicized I mean,
let's face it.

Speaker 18 (01:01:38):
You know in the past that you know Jimmy Carter
certainly he got uh some people off because they dodged
the war, and you know about Nixon.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
I mean, it is a political football.

Speaker 18 (01:01:48):
But at the number that Donald Trump is doing this,
it is unprecedented.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
And that's what he's doing.

Speaker 18 (01:01:55):
He's creating precedents so that he can have even more power.
He's building upon on all of this, and nobody is
stopping him. He's merging everything that we know to be separate.
He's really changing kind of the constitution even as we know.
We're just seeing it in front of our eyes, but
it's slowly happening and then eventually we realize, wait a minute,

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where are all of our rights?

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
But this, I think another thing to point out is
that he also.

Speaker 18 (01:02:23):
Pardoned Darryl Strawberry. And the reason why that's important and
his politicize is because we know the numbers of black
men that have been voting Republican and who has he
been removing. It's not black women buying lars that he
has been pardoning and you know, commuting their sentences is
black men.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
And he's doing that because it is something that he's
making a point.

Speaker 18 (01:02:47):
Politically, and whenever he does something in terms of pardoning
a black man, black men listen, and he gets points
and he knows that. So it's all strategy, it's all
pr and marketing for the Republican Party.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Yeah, and cause Strawberry got pardoned for a tax charge.
And listen, Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
What makes it even worse the folks who Trump is
letting out. He say, oh, orr about it. You don't
even have to pay back any of your finds. He's
just letting all kind of fall. I mean, the crypto
dude Carlos Watson and that scheme he was involved in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
I mean, so, I mean, it's millions upon millions of
dollars that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Victims were supposed to receive. Trump said, don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
You're good.

Speaker 15 (01:03:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:03:38):
See, also pay me two hundred and thirty million dollars
because I'm a victim, right, because I was prosecuted. Look,
I mean, the thing that is really kind of baffling
to me about this is for all the people who
will tell you that the founders were these geniuses who
came up with all these various checks and balances, if
you realize it, I mean, the pardon power is one
of the most unchecked powers that the president had as

(01:04:00):
that can be used at any point after you know,
the inception of a criminal prosecution, from my understanding, and
he can use it unfettered. So the problem is he's
got an actual constitutional right to do this, and when
you have a Supreme Court that's saying, you know what,
the unitary executive basically everything he does is immunized, which
is ultimately what they've said. Then exactly like you're saying,

(01:04:22):
I'm thinking there's kickbacks or there's something on the back
end for that, because you know you've already got Bill Lee,
the governor of Tennessee, in your pocket. Why do you
need to pardon this Guy's probably because you've got a
fat stack of cash. But there's not anything that can
really be done about that. And that's a strange thing
to me that the founders didn't have a greater mechanism
for ensuring that this kind of abuse didn't happen. But

(01:04:43):
I don't really know what can be done, is the problem,
because I mean, it is a constitutional power is expressly afforded,
and we know that the Supreme Court isn't going to
ingraft on any limitations on that or find any way
to say that it's outside of the realm of.

Speaker 14 (01:04:57):
Power because it's an expressly afforded article too.

Speaker 20 (01:05:00):
Right, So I think you're right about your analysis, but
I don't know what you can really do about it
besides watch him continue to do it till he isn't
at sixteen hundred Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
I'm gonna say it again, Michael, Republicans losing twenty twenty
eight Democrats should say all bets are off.

Speaker 19 (01:05:21):
Yeah, they need to prosecute all these criminals, definitely, And
I don't care how they are either.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
hold on, I'm gonna get to the prosecution. I'm talking
about Democrats always a plan by set of rules.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
No, if we do that, they're gonna criticize us. No,
I'm telling I'm telling you. The energy that I need
from the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Next Democratic president is like, sit your ass down. What
I need for the next Democratic president is Pete Deucey, sit.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Your ass down. We ain't calling on you, No, I'm
I'm telling that what I want.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
I'm telling you next candidate, every Democrat that runs at
twenty eight, sir, are you releasing your taxes?

Speaker 8 (01:06:04):
Nope?

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Are you releasing your transcripts?

Speaker 17 (01:06:08):
Nope, nope.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Are you gonna put your money in the blind trust?

Speaker 8 (01:06:14):
Nope?

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Because clearly all the stuff that the media and the
public claimed was important.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
They let he do whatever he wants to do. So
you're like, all right, cool, So I see Obama, Biden,
all of them. They will wait till around Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
He doing partners. Whatever I'm telling right now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
If I'm a Democratic president, shed I'm cool and say, hey,
I'm dumping partners on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
The first and the fifteenth of the month.

Speaker 19 (01:06:46):
Fifteen, right, right, So there's a number of things here.
We're dealing with the criminals, so this is to be expected, right.
But what's interesting here about the case with Cassida and
Conference is that the investigations of both of these men
started under Trump's first term, and the raids of their

(01:07:06):
homes were conducted in January twenty twenty one, when.

Speaker 17 (01:07:09):
Trump was still in office.

Speaker 19 (01:07:10):
This is deparminent justice, and the judge that presided over
the case was appointed by Trump in this first term
as well. So this is just another attempt to undo
right prosecutions coming under the Biden Harris administration and say
that they were unfair because he feels mourned, he feels

(01:07:32):
hurt because of what he claims are unfair prosecutions. So
this is what criminals do. Right now, I say a
more politicians. I said, we need more black politicians like
Bumpy Johnson. We need some straight up hardcore people to
go toe to toe with these thugs. You can't send
choir boys to go total toed with these thugs. So

(01:07:52):
this is what you're dealing with. But once you try
to overthrow the government through a January sixth insurrection, I mean,
what do you expect all bets are off then.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
But that's what what Matt. These are thugs in fact, Halla,
la a la. Here's Steve Manning. This is what he
had to say.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
And listen. Only guilty as people say shit like this
will tell.

Speaker 21 (01:08:15):
You right now, as God is my witness, if we
lose the midterms and we lose twenty twenty eight, some
in this room are going to prison, myself included.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Damn right. Okay, I'm play the rest of it. They're
not going to stop. They're getting more and more and
more radical. Yeah, because you'll asses are more and more
and more corrupt. Okay, back to the video.

Speaker 21 (01:08:44):
And we have to counter that, and what do we
have to counter it with. We have to counter it
with more action, more intense action.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Yeah, more corruption, more corruption. Back to the corrupt man or.

Speaker 21 (01:08:58):
Urgency we're burning daily. But if you look across every
aspect of this, we have to codify what President Trump
has done by executive order.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Okay, what he's saying.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Is, Okay, all the illegal shit we've done, we got
to make that law so it really ain't illegal, right,
we have to codify it.

Speaker 21 (01:09:22):
And people say where they're just gonna be messing in
bilst pass Sendate, we got to We've got to put
aside these structural barriers and get on with it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Okay, what he's saying is the little thing called the
law of Constitution? Who just moved it aside? Because it's
really kind of get in our way.

Speaker 21 (01:09:38):
President Trump today gave to the Senate when they came
over for breakfast, even Lindsey Graham, some of the guys
that liked and some of these institutions. I understand this
is a very tough decision to make, and you're gonna
see some people in the conservative movement that not in
a million years, because I talked to him today quite
frankly I had Hawley on the show this morning, Josh Hawley,
and he's talking about it, and I'm trying to play

(01:09:59):
the institutions. Well, well, they called me up safoning and said,
let's go through the ten reasons we need to do it.
And these are heavy hitters on what I would call
the constitutional limited government constitutionalists in our movement.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Okay, I got ten reasons. Are your ass need a bath?

Speaker 21 (01:10:17):
Okay, back to the video, and they're about to come
out over the next couple of days and make this
argument because he said, look, we have to understand that
if we don't take this to the maximum, a maximumst
strategy now with a sense of urgency, and in doing this,
seize the institutions. If we don't do that now, we're
going to lose this chance forever because you're never going

(01:10:38):
to have another Trump, right, You're just not going to
have it right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
So what he's saying is you are never mat going
to have somebody with no morals, no values, no ethics,
no principles, no integrity, no honor, no decency, no bottom.
We truly right now have the best person in the world,

(01:11:03):
which is an absolute, undeniable, corrupt as full sitting in
the Oval Office.

Speaker 14 (01:11:14):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 20 (01:11:15):
And look they're not hiding their hands. They're making the
play their playbook known, and they've.

Speaker 14 (01:11:19):
Been doing that for a long time.

Speaker 20 (01:11:21):
You and Michael on this show talked about Project twenty twenty.

Speaker 14 (01:11:24):
Five for years before we saw it applied.

Speaker 20 (01:11:27):
The reason I responded that way, though, is because I
worry philosophically that if we embolden each side to come
in and then be no holds barred in response, that
you're never gonna have any stability. And I don't know
how you toe the balance between not being weak and
not letting the Republicans run rough shot and playing their
their game against them, but also redefining some kind of

(01:11:51):
stability to the government that way, because.

Speaker 14 (01:11:54):
I don't know, I don't know how you do that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Here's stability. You broke the law, paid the price stability.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
See again, here's here's the perfect example that it is
the issue that I have. Republicans don't believe in rules,
they don't believe in norms. So their whole deal is
We're gonna do whatever because we got power. Democrats go,

(01:12:24):
we believe in norms, but then you don't maximize power.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
I'm not saying a Democrat.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Should come in and say, yeah, I'm gonna take a
five hundred million dollar plane from Cutter, and then then
we're gonna convert it on the tax period dime. And
then when I leave office, y'all gonna give it to
my library for us to use. That's what this thug
is talking about here. What I'm talking about is the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Things that used to be. Oh my god, I can't
believe that. I can't believe you're in he art these people.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
No, the next Democrats say I'm a partners by when
I want to, I'm gonna sit here and oh yeah,
marijuana convictions, yell all gone. I'm telling I just and
and what I want I want the next Democratic president
to say, I'm putting the SEC commissioner.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
Uh and uh what was the line uh my man
used in training day?

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
What was the line uh Denzel used uh when he
said when he said I'm putting, Uh, I'm hitting off you. Yeah,
I'm I'm I'm yeah, I'm I'm here, I'm putting.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
I'm putting charges on all y'all. What I want?

Speaker 17 (01:13:46):
What I want?

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
I want Lena Kahan back in the Federal Trade Commission.
I want I want folks back, Who're gonna say, we
going after every thug, every person. We're going all those
folks who got inside information on the crypto. We're going
after everybody. Because listen, we ain't even hit year one.

(01:14:11):
These people, Matt, they want to rape and pillage all
of it. They want to leave this thing in tatters,
so jacked up, so screwed up, where it may take.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Thirty years to fix. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Hell no, I ain't gonna let thirty years. I'm talking
about if I'm a Democratic president, I'm coming in and
I got prosecutors everywhere. I'm going through every document. I'm
sitting here looking at everything because these people are ridiculously corrupt, and.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
I wouldn't be surprised if Donald Trump knows it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
And when he leaves, forget the partons that Biden, he
probably gonna say, our pardon everybody who I've talked to
in four years, that this is how corrupt these people are.
We have never we have in the history of the

(01:15:16):
United States. We have never ever Richard Nixon looks like
a preschooler.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Compared to this thug.

Speaker 14 (01:15:31):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with that completely.

Speaker 20 (01:15:35):
My concern is less about abject corruption and is more
about the expansion of the executive power to the point
that we have a king or a quasi king. And
what I'm saying is, I don't know how a democratic
president can come in and just eschee all norms and
then we not create the same environment for corruption to

(01:15:57):
run rampant.

Speaker 14 (01:15:58):
Now, maybe not to this extent, right, But the problem
is if.

Speaker 20 (01:16:01):
All the guardrails are gone, all the norms are gone,
and we're all promoting that the next person come in
and just go to six gear and do whatever they want,
I think we run the risk of creating the same
issue to a lesser degree, because you're probably not going
to ever have another Trump who's this brazenly corrupt. But
I think you create the circumstances for corruption, and I

(01:16:22):
don't know philosophically how you address that going forward. But
also understanding that you know, we're trying to operate in
good faith and Republicans aren't like to your point, they
don't care about the rules. So that's why I reacted
that way.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
I don't know, all right, But.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
But here's the thing for me, Cannas yet the Supreme
Court has said, oh, you could do all of that.
I'm sorry, a Democrat should go note it, note it.
See again.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
This is what I've always said, Cannas. This is the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Democrats see the line two thousand yards.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Away and they go, hey. Matter of fact, in football.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
There's a guy who's called to get back coach, and
to get back coach is the guy who's a constantly
telling the head coach and the players get back, get back,
because if y'all cross the line, they're gonna throw a
penalty on the bench. So he's the getback coach. His

(01:17:32):
job is to make sure everybody stays back. The Democrats
got about five million get back coaches.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Get back, get back. No, no, no, don't don't cross.
Get back.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
The Republicans are on the other side of line, say,
look at the foods getting back.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
We crossed that line long ago. I understand Matt's point,
But if the Supreme.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Court has said I got a whole lot of power,
I'm gonna use a whole lot of power. And then
every time Republicans gonna say something, I'm gonna sit here
and say read that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
He said that. Yas didn't say nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
I just I just don't believe you don't use the
power that's been granted. And you say, well, we're gonna
I'm gonna voluntarily battle it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Up and hurt myself, not damn that. Mm hmmm hm.

Speaker 18 (01:18:34):
Well, I think what we're seeing is, as you said,
people are getting back because they are afraid if they
do cross the line, because of the way think the
courts are stacked, because of the executive order power that
the president has, because of the pardoning power that the
president has, that they're never gonna win.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
So I'm not saying that what they're doing is right,
getting back, getting back, But while they're getting back.

Speaker 14 (01:18:58):
What is it that they can do.

Speaker 18 (01:19:00):
I'm kind of you know, Pole signing Mad again once
tonight because besides a constitutional convention to kind of really
change some things.

Speaker 12 (01:19:09):
In the core of this country.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
I mean, what the Framers didn't see coming was a Donald.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Trump well actually actually got You gotta add one thing
what the Framers didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
First of all, here's the deal. What I'm laying out
and what you and Mad are saying, let's be why
it's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Were you in matter saying is going to happen and
what I'm saying is not gonna happen because the Democratic
Party they not gonna let a Democratic president actually do it.
See the Democrats, they so nice, they so the Democrats
are the ones who are going, no, you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Have us the piece of cake, because you already had one.
That's Democrats, that's a Democrat. They're not gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
The Democratic Party will never fall in line the way
the Republicans are.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Hey. In fact, let me just be real clear.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
You will never see a Democratic Project twenty twenty five
not gonna happen, because you're gonna have other Democrats shooting
down PREJUCT twenty twenty their own prejun twenty twenty five.
You are the Republicans, they like say that I'll do

(01:20:33):
what you want, and let's be real. Let's be real
honest here, Michael. One of the reasons why is because
Donald Trump he'll pretn them, he'll sike hist posse on,
so he actually has his entire party scared.

Speaker 17 (01:20:53):
Yes, that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
So they like, I ain't tell them, you go tell them,
I ain't gonna tell len me, can't go do it. No,
you go tell them, man, I am not gonna tell them.
You go tell them. Nope, you go tell him.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
You go tell them, and guess what didn't nobody goes
tell them no, No, nobody goes to tell them.

Speaker 19 (01:21:10):
Yeah, he'll threaten them with primaries, he'll rate them on
his knockoff Twitter platform truth Social He pardoned fifteen hundred
domestic terrorists that tried to overthrow the government of January sixth. Okay,
so you have a lot of them out and we

(01:21:31):
saw one just made was arrested for making threats against
a keen Jeffries. So yeah, he operates as a mob boss.

Speaker 17 (01:21:37):
Okay.

Speaker 19 (01:21:38):
But at the same time, you have weak ass Republicans
who need who don't stand up to power, who need
to be voted out of office, they need to be
taken out of power. So yeah, we have problems on
both sides. You got week ass Republicans and you got
you got a corrupt thug with no morals that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
Has way too much power, And we have to deal
with both thom Yeah, I mean, that's that's fact.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
That's what we're dealing with. We're dealing with a thug,
a flat out thug. All right, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Speaking of thoughts, we come back, we go talk about
how the racist white supremacist Nick flint Is has really
got the Republicans and the Heritage Foundation reeling.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Maybe it's because they've fully embraced.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
The racist white supremacist Nick Fint food to Plint was
and they need his supporters because his supporters are MAGA.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
You're watching a roll about Filton the Box Sun Network.

Speaker 11 (01:22:50):
Violent white supremacy was quote the most persistent and lethal threat.

Speaker 15 (01:22:54):
In the homeland.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
The greatest terrorist threat is.

Speaker 22 (01:22:57):
That the homeland is the homegrown boy strength, including hate
crime committed on behalf of some kind of white supremacist ideology.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
They are coming after that everything in Black America.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
MAGA and Donald Trump are specifically targeting Black America.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
They are going after the money attack, Black lives attack,
critical racing attack. MAGA wants to defund Black America. There's
some perfect example of their desire.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
To completely degrade and de emphasize Black people.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Hey, what's up, everybody.

Speaker 8 (01:23:47):
It's gotta be the funniest dude on the planet.

Speaker 14 (01:23:50):
And you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Se y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
The whole lot is happening with the Republican Party as
we speak, Heritish Foundation.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
It's going through a whole lot because you know, their president.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Sort of defended Tucker Carlson's interview with white supremacists racist
Nazi lover Nick wint Is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
Now that's saying.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Nick wint Is is a mixed ethnic background, including Mexican, Italian, Irish.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
He literally has said some absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Wildish, outlandist, racist stuff and he's got millions following him
and they love him.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
This is what he said in March twenty eighth.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
You say that everybody kind of realizes women need to
be taken down a peg. Women are in control, women
are running our lives. They're clearly not up to the task.
They need to be taken down a pag. And equally,
just like the obfuscation with Jews, you have all these
people saying, no, no, no, that's not the problem. The
problem is modern women, they say, it's all these degenerate

(01:25:04):
modern women. You need to find yourself a good girl
who's traditional and Christian and conservative.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
It's like they're telling us what to do too.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
They're talking way too much too half the time. When
you go on Twitter and you have some stupid bitch
wagging her finger in your face. She's a Christian, she's
got a proverbs in bio, she's got a Bible versu
in or bio. People say, no, it's just those, it's
just those degenerate modern left wing blue haired feminist girls.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
I want.

Speaker 4 (01:25:36):
I want a good trad Christian girl. Half the time,
it's the girls with the Bible versus in the bio
that are the problem.

Speaker 9 (01:25:46):
So it's they're always coming up.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
With No, it's not the Jews. No it's not women.
No it's not blacks. It's actually really complicated. No it
fuck it isn't at all.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Jews are running society.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Women need to shut the fuck up, Blacks need to
be imprisoned for the most part, and we would live
in paradise. It's that simple. It's literally that simple. Anyway,
that's the big that's the big picture. You know, that's
your macro level.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Thirty thousand five were undone, check this out.

Speaker 17 (01:26:23):
Women don't support me.

Speaker 5 (01:26:25):
Women are irrational and sensitive.

Speaker 32 (01:26:27):
It's just like my whole life, my whole life because
I was always like the class clown.

Speaker 5 (01:26:32):
I was always like bullying women and women.

Speaker 32 (01:26:37):
Women have always been like simultaneously charmed but also.

Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
Like oh stop it, Oh oh you're.

Speaker 9 (01:26:46):
So annoying, you know, you know what I mean that
kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:26:50):
That's how women are with like with this, with like
my personality type.

Speaker 9 (01:26:56):
Or you're like a rascal.

Speaker 5 (01:26:57):
You know, you're like, you're like a bastard, and they're
kind of like because I'm like a.

Speaker 32 (01:27:05):
Rule breaker and stuff, and so women simultaneously are intrigued
by that, but they're also they also have to pretend
like they're not because women it's.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Sort of like how women.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
A lot of women want to be raped.

Speaker 32 (01:27:19):
And when I say raped, I mean, like that sounds
bad when I say it like that, But there's like
a lot of women that really want a guy to
beat the shit.

Speaker 8 (01:27:28):
Out of him.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
Yep, now mind you, this is the guy Tucker Carlson interviewed,
and it took a Carlson sat.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Down for conversation with Megan Kelly.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
It was like yesterday, and he actually defended the sit
down and he said he doesn't care if he.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Gets criticized all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
He said, Hey, you know, I want to sit here
and I'm interested to hearing people actually think.

Speaker 33 (01:27:57):
Listen is not only being challenged in our country, it's
being disregarded. It's disregarded in DEI, it's disregarded in affirmative action.
A dented politics is a refutation of that idea. We
are awarding some people something because of how they were
born and hurting others for the same reason that is
anti Western.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
So the Haridas Foundation CEO said that, you know, Nick Flint,
it should be a part of the conservative movement. Boy,
they've had folks resign staffers all pissed off.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Here's the thing here, Candae that let's just be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Nick Flint is and his following, his millions of followers,
just like Charlie Kirk's millions of followers. That's the Republican Party.
That's their voters. They need those racist, angry white men.
That's the Richard Spensers of the world. That's the Stephen.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
Miller's of the world. That's literally their party.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
So the fact that the Hair Foundation CEO said, yeah,
we need Nick Foyentes as a part of the conservative movement.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
He's saying we need those race young, racist bastards.

Speaker 18 (01:29:09):
M you know, there's so much to say, but yet
I want to say so little because that actually gives
him more of a platform.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
And listen, this is someone who hasn't even been on Fox.

Speaker 18 (01:29:21):
So the fact that Tucker calls him have him, and
the fact that Tucker was removed from Fox, we know
that he too is trying to get the numbers. He
too is trying to get people who are voting from
him for him in a sense because they want to
see him continue and be successful. But you know, Nick
contest reminds me of you know, just let me not

(01:29:42):
contextualize it too much, but I don't hopes who are
like him, and that you know, when you talk about
money so much, it means you don't have money.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
When you talk about girls.

Speaker 12 (01:29:51):
That much, it means that you don't have a girl.

Speaker 14 (01:29:54):
So the fact that he is.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Talking about not you know, empowering what men and talking
about women wanting.

Speaker 18 (01:30:01):
To be raped, he's talking about the fact that they
have the power to say no because they've probably.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Been saying no to him his whole life. And that's
the problem in and about this.

Speaker 18 (01:30:11):
So instead of doing a lot of self reflecting, what
he does is he goes online and he gets other
alienated men, mostly in order to agree with him, so
that they have something to talk about because they can't
talk about what they really want to talk about, which
is that, you know, Roland, these type of guys they
really want a girlfriend and they've never really had one.
And I know that's very simplistic, but at the end

(01:30:32):
of the day. You speak to a lot of men
in this age group, that's what they want. So the
fact that you know we're even talking about it, yes,
it's the news, but I hate doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
No, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
The reason I think we have to talk about it
because again, Michael, just listen to some of this. This
is literally Megan and Kelly and Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
Essentially saying that, you know, PUANTSI ain't so bad.

Speaker 18 (01:30:57):
The main criticism, as I understand it, has been and well, yes, platforming.
They say that I don't accept platforming as a valid objection.

Speaker 27 (01:31:04):
What is that a verb?

Speaker 33 (01:31:05):
But like you take a noun and you make it
into a verb and nobody says anything.

Speaker 27 (01:31:09):
As a former editor, I say, no.

Speaker 12 (01:31:10):
Yeah, I agree honestly.

Speaker 18 (01:31:12):
But like, as far as I know, Nick Fointez hasn't
eaten anyone, you know, I mean Jeffrey Dahmer eight people,
and he was platformed by Diane saur.

Speaker 33 (01:31:19):
Did we have a member, a sitting member of Congress.

Speaker 27 (01:31:21):
I spoke to the Speaker of the House about this today.

Speaker 33 (01:31:23):
We have a sitting member of Congress from Florida called
Randy Fine who is literally texted or put on Twitter,
we should kill them all, every single one. Someone texted
a picture of literally of a dead baby and he
laughs at it, and it's like, this guy's a lawmaker's
appropriating money to a military committing genocide and that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
It's not cool now, and let's just be honest.

Speaker 33 (01:31:45):
That is much worse than anything Nick Fuentes has said, period.

Speaker 19 (01:31:52):
And they clapped, Michael, Well, this is the white nationalists,
white supremist party that we're looking at, that's trying to
preserve to neetic white survival. There's a fear the browning
of America, as you've talked about in your book, White Fear,
and the mask has been pulled off of these white

(01:32:14):
supremaist white nationalists. So about ten years ago, the views
of Nick for Wintaz would have been denounced by those
in the Republican Party, by leadership in the Republican Party
things like there. Ten twelve years ago or so, they
would have been looked at friend as fringe ideology.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
Today, John Burke moret the John Burke Society in the
nineteen sixties.

Speaker 19 (01:32:38):
Yeah, yeah, today is more mainstream ideology in the Republican Party,
so much so that Kevin Roberts, President of the Heritage Foundation,
which is the same organization to put out Project twenty
twenty five, is defending Trucker Carlson platforming.

Speaker 17 (01:32:54):
Nick wint has interviewing him.

Speaker 19 (01:32:57):
And let's remember nickle Wentz as the same guy that
went me with with Donald Trump in the first term,
with Kanye West.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Had had dinner, had dinner at Marlago with I'm had
had lunch with Kanye and Charlie Marlaco.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
Yep, go ahead, yep.

Speaker 17 (01:33:11):
So this is who these people are.

Speaker 19 (01:33:13):
We need to play close attention because Nick for Win
test I think even though his movement the groupers, I
think it was called, they didn't think Charlie Kirk. They
thought Charlie Kirk was a fraud and didn't think he
was harsh enough. Things like that Charlie Kirk was their competition,
with Kirk being Charlie who was their competition.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
But I think Nick for Win is trying to move
into that lane. Well, hold up, this is the New
York Times right here. Nick for Wines was Charlie Kirk's
bitter enemy. Now he's becoming his successor. And they got
this like really cool photo like this, this earthy photo
of him.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
That's what you're dealing with, Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
These are racists, and the Republican Party is saying, yo,
we Diehl the racist as long as they turn out
both on our side.

Speaker 17 (01:33:57):
Full stop.

Speaker 20 (01:33:58):
And they're racist actors because I guary to you, Nick Flint,
this ain't going down the street telling any brother that
he needs to be locked up.

Speaker 8 (01:34:04):
I mean his.

Speaker 20 (01:34:04):
Keyboard warrior, right, he's sitting behind a microphone. He's probably
getting a.

Speaker 14 (01:34:08):
Little kickback, like cann was saying, it's all about money
for him.

Speaker 20 (01:34:11):
But you know, these are the people who give voice
to all of the neighbors that live on our street
who have these same racist views, who will never say
it out in public, but they're at home, you know,
running up his views on YouTube because this is what
they really think. And I think the Republican Party brazenly
saying we're bringing these people into the fold is not
only disgusting, but you know what you see a lot

(01:34:32):
with these people is they always try to find a
way to one offit and sanitize it and make it
not what it is, right. I mean, even Megan Kelly
talking about Dahmer having been platformed, I never saw the
Nick Flint as ate somebody I mean, that's part and
parcel with the kind of thing that you see where
they're like, well, you know, he probably shouldn't say that,
but maybe he's really not that bad.

Speaker 14 (01:34:52):
No, he's a flaming racist. And you know, I think
it's acting.

Speaker 20 (01:34:55):
I think it's bad acting, but I also think that
there's a power void now that Charlie Kirk is gone,
and he's trying to fill that void because he's an actor.

Speaker 14 (01:35:03):
But I guarantee you he ain't saying none of this
on the street.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
It's a whole lot going on, and what people are
calling for right now is.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
The opposition. They're calling on people to fight back.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
They're calling on people to stand up and challenge the
other side, not give in, not bend, not buckle. That's
what they're doing. And what is required here is for
fighters to stand up to emerge. That's what's required. And

(01:35:42):
one of those folks that are next guest cong Um
and Jasmine Crockett, she joins us right now, comic Swiman Crockett.
You heard the conversations we were just having, and you know,
this is just a moment where we're in where look,
folks can't be sitting on the sidelines going well so,
so it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Too bad, not too bad.

Speaker 8 (01:36:00):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
We see the attacks on women, black women, people of color,
all sorts of people you bought. The right wing is
losing their mind because of what happened on Tuesday. I mean,
they're just going crazy. They've been calling you ghetto, every name, everything.
How you talking of say? They don't care. The reality

(01:36:23):
is the norms of politics that were there for.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
So long or gone.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
Donald Trump has said, y'all don't worry about any of that,
saying do whatever you want because I got you.

Speaker 8 (01:36:36):
Yeah, you're so right.

Speaker 34 (01:36:37):
It's interesting when we did our field hearing in Chicago
as it relates to ice and what's going on there
under amazing leadership. Might I add, we know that the
mayor of Chicago, Brandon, has been doing an amazing job
in defense of his people. But I made sure to

(01:36:58):
point out that a friend of mine who is currently
federal law enforcement, said to me that he always sees
a shift in what takes place based upon the tone
that is set at the top.

Speaker 5 (01:37:11):
So, yes, we have a thug and.

Speaker 34 (01:37:15):
A criminal who is a criminal more so because of
his mindset. He obviously has convictions to go along with that.
But it's more so his mind. Right, there are people
plenty of times that have gotten into trouble, but it
was out of necessity, which we are going to see
a spike and crime as this administration is saying, do

(01:37:36):
not feed people. When it comes to survival, people will survive, right,
And so we are going to see these things even
though he claims to be about that life. But nevertheless
he is set a tone. He is set a tone
that is just respectful. He is set a tone that
is completely ignoring the people that put him into office.

(01:37:58):
And there is there is no koof about him, so
to speak, right, And so you can sit there as
prim and proper as you want to be and get steamrolled,
or you can meet his energy and recognize that like
you're not going to be the one to be played with, right,
and you can fight back. And I think one of

(01:38:18):
the reasons that he usually can't keep my name out
of his mouth is because he is threatened with my
ability to communicate. He understands that when I speak, I
just speak very plainly, which allows me to communicate to
the masses, which a lot of my colleagues don't.

Speaker 1 (01:38:35):
Necessarily let me roll clear cos I add a very
well known Republican tell me the reason our side hates
Chasmin Crockett, it's because she's good.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
He was like, yeah, he's in it. He was like,
she drives us up the wall because she's good. Those
were his exact words.

Speaker 5 (01:39:06):
Yeah, I don't doubt it.

Speaker 34 (01:39:06):
I mean, I'm literally, as you know, I'm constantly traveling
the country, and you know, I've had Republicans walk up
to me and tell me. They first of all make
it clear that they love me, and then they make
it clear that they are Republicans, and they tell me
that they don't necessarily agree with everything that I say
or my stances, but they number one, love the fact

(01:39:29):
that I am always standing on my own two feet
and I am fighting for what I believe in, Like
they genuinely believe what it is that I'm fighting for.
When I'm fighting, even if they disagree with the fight,
they know that no one is controlling me. And number two,
you know, like people know that I have my education,
so I don't feel like I necessarily need to sit

(01:39:52):
down and have an SAT conversation with everybody because I
don't really know that that's like most effective.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
Well, then again, call them crofty you got that guy
from Louisiana, John Kennedy with that fake ass accent. I
mean there's actual video him talking and there is no
country Twain whatsoever, and he's over there and he is
to talk like hitch his home spawn and stuff.

Speaker 34 (01:40:20):
Yeah, no, I mean they what the Republicans have been
effective at doing is they love to throw a bomb, right,
And usually the Democrats will scurry and go ahead and
spread the news about the bomb.

Speaker 8 (01:40:33):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:40:35):
I am so appreciative of our party because.

Speaker 34 (01:40:38):
They are kind of like, you know what, We're not
falling for that anymore, and hopefully we can keep up
this energy.

Speaker 5 (01:40:43):
If you remember, there were a lot of people saying that.

Speaker 34 (01:40:46):
Jay Jones was not going to pull off the attorney
general position in Virginia, and there were Democrats saying, oh
my god, he sent this terrible text message. He needs
to resign and not run and we not have anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
Oh ten years ago, he would have been forced to resign,
he would have been forced to drop out of the campaign.

Speaker 34 (01:41:05):
Listen, there were still Democrats. They were talking about it,
and my deal was, say what you got to say,
denounce what he did. But in this moment, do you
trust this Republican Attorney General to stand up when it
is the state legislature that decides that they need to
fight fire with fire and give us more seats out

(01:41:26):
of Virginia to go to the US House, because they're
trying to balance out this power struggle that Trump is on.
Or when it comes down to Trump deciding that he's
not going to send appropriated dollars to the state of Virginia,
do you think that the Republican ag is going to
be the one to sign up.

Speaker 5 (01:41:44):
To go and get those dollars.

Speaker 34 (01:41:46):
No, So at the end of the day, you got
to put your mask on first, and so you can
say he is not my favorite person. And I just
appreciated that the Democrats got rid of kind of the
purity test. You can have whatever issues you you have
with him, but at the end of the day, you
got to make sure you looking out for you.

Speaker 5 (01:42:05):
And I was very excited to see that he was
able to pull off the wind.

Speaker 34 (01:42:10):
Not that I know him, I've never met him, I've
never talked to him, but because it seems like people
did not get caught up in the distractions, and that
is what the Republicans are very good at. There's no
way that the Republicans get to point fingers while we
have the most corrupt president ever in the history of
this country sitting on his wanna be thrown Absolutely not.

Speaker 5 (01:42:33):
We gotta do what we gotta do.

Speaker 34 (01:42:34):
And we may not necessarily have perfect soldiers in this fight,
but we need fighters and we can't afford to see
any territory. And so I was very excited for what
happened on November fourth. And Trump is the one that
basically does not have a poker face.

Speaker 5 (01:42:50):
It was clear that he was very upset about what happened.

Speaker 34 (01:42:53):
And Mike Johnson just stood up and lied and said,
oh no, no, no, it was just in all the
blue places, that's all. It was what we expected. And
it's like, bro, there's a Republican governor that just got
I mean, obviously they only run for one term in Virginia,
but like, the numbers were crazy. Spamberger was up by

(01:43:13):
like fourteen points or something. And we know that the
last time they went for Youngkins. So I mean, this
wasn't just in obviously, no conversation about Mississippi, no conversation
about what Georgia did. Right, they all should be nervous,
and they all should be kind of looking at Trump
and saying, bro, it's time for us to get back

(01:43:33):
to work.

Speaker 5 (01:43:34):
So come to the table. You're gonna have to negotiate
some of this otherwise.

Speaker 34 (01:43:38):
I am telling you right now that blue wave that
we saw is going to be a tsunami calm the midterms.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
Speaking of that, obviously, we have the racist Jerry Mander
in Texas wiping out your seat that of also one
of these seats in Houston, total of five. You have
to make it just your name has been thrown out
left and right by the United State Senate. Your name
is popped up in polls and stores and whatever. How

(01:44:08):
much time do you got to make to make a
decision whether you run for Congress or try for a
US Senate.

Speaker 2 (01:44:15):
Yeah, so I am.

Speaker 5 (01:44:16):
Running out of time, to be clear.

Speaker 34 (01:44:18):
Texas has one of the earliest primaries, and so our
filing actually will begin in just a few days, and
the filing period is going to close on December eighth.
I fully anticipate that I won't announce what I'm doing
until December eighth, to be perfectly honest, You're right, there's
been so many independent polls that have been done. We

(01:44:39):
just saw one that came out this week where the
case was made that there needs to be a multicultural coalition.

Speaker 5 (01:44:48):
That is built in order to win.

Speaker 34 (01:44:50):
And so when you look at what it took for
Spamburger to win, what it took for Mikey Cheryl to win,
it all was kind of these multicultural coalitions and based
upon my performance specifically with people of color, not necessarily
saying that I'm performing bad with you know, anglos, but

(01:45:11):
specifically with how well I perform with people of color.
The argument was made that I'm best situated, as well
as the fact that I've been kind of making this
argument that name ID wise, my name ID is significantly
higher than any candidate that we've ever put up to
run statewide.

Speaker 5 (01:45:31):
We always put up someone who has a great resume.
But I think that our.

Speaker 34 (01:45:35):
Party has been very afraid of giving the Republicans too
much time to beat up on somebody.

Speaker 14 (01:45:40):
And I got news for them.

Speaker 34 (01:45:41):
They've been beating up on me for a very long time.
So I don't even know. I mean, they didn't came
up with some other BS drama. I'm just like, this
is just a normal day for me, right, Like I
don't get distracted. And I think because they have consistently
tried to beat up on me, running crazy stories on Newsmax,
running crazy stories on Fox, that kind of stuff. I
think that that's it makes it to where it's more

(01:46:03):
background noise at this point, right, instead of something that
anybody would pay attention to because it's the same old.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Same all.

Speaker 34 (01:46:12):
And so I think that we have invested a lot
in kind of a blank slate somebody that hopefully they
can't tear down. And I also think that Democrats have
really taken a lot of time to say we want
to go after the crossover instead of going after our base.

Speaker 5 (01:46:27):
And so it's a matter of difference in style.

Speaker 34 (01:46:30):
I believe that I have a lot of base to
get to that we could bring out so that we
could expand.

Speaker 5 (01:46:37):
The electorate in Texas.

Speaker 34 (01:46:38):
So often people say, well, it doesn't matter anyway, I'm
not going to go vote because it's just going to
be a Republican. But I remember a time in which
a lot of people in this country never thought we
would see a black president. And I remember that people
were hopeful. They weren't necessarily believing, but they were hopeful, right,

(01:46:59):
And it is my hope that I can instill that
we deserve better in the state of Texas, and that
we deserve a US Senator that is Texas tough but
always is going to put all of Texas first.

Speaker 5 (01:47:13):
And so you know we'll see. I don't plan to
go out here on a dummy mission for sure.

Speaker 34 (01:47:20):
So all I can say is that independent polls make
it clear that there's a path for me. The candidate
that the Republicans want to run for run away from
is only one point ahead of me in a head
to head, which is well within the margin of era
of any poll, and that's been in multiple poles where
Kim Paxton is only outpacing me by a point without

(01:47:40):
me ever spending one statewide dollar.

Speaker 5 (01:47:43):
But if I can't get people excited or.

Speaker 34 (01:47:46):
Motivated in ways that we've never seen in Texas, then
I will absolutely be running for a house seat.

Speaker 5 (01:47:54):
I don't know which house seat. We're still waiting on
the court.

Speaker 34 (01:47:57):
We are anticipating getting a court order within the next
day or so because we are about to inter filing,
and people have to know what the district looks like.
So if our numbers don't come back, which they are
working through that right now to be something that I
feel like we can.

Speaker 5 (01:48:17):
Jump off on then I won't. I will stay in
the house. Otherwise, you know, is go.

Speaker 8 (01:48:22):
Big or go home.

Speaker 1 (01:48:24):
So if you run, which one of those comfortable shoes
are you gonna wear behind you? Because you're gonna have
to be hitting a lot of pavement with two hundred
and fifty four counties in Texas, My.

Speaker 5 (01:48:34):
Ja's aren't behind me, but it'll be some ja's, that's
for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
You're gonna have to have some comfortable shoes.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
So, because there's a whole lot of the ground to
cover in Texas if you run statewide.

Speaker 8 (01:48:49):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 5 (01:48:50):
People underestimate really how big Texas is. It is in
the litteral land mass.

Speaker 20 (01:48:58):
We are huge.

Speaker 34 (01:48:59):
But also I mean we're stated of over thirty million people,
so it's a lot, and we have some of the
most expensive media markets in this country. But you know,
one of the things that I did that people didn't
really realize, and it's just because I believe in good
people getting into office, is when I was in the
State House, I was helping out people that were running

(01:49:20):
for office all over the place. And by the time
I decided I was going to run for the US House,
there were so many elected officials that were willing to
support me and come out really quickly and early because
they were like, you had our back, and as it turns.

Speaker 5 (01:49:34):
Out, I had expanded my territory.

Speaker 34 (01:49:36):
Well, I've done that a little bit more quietly, for sure, consistently.
And then there's some races that I'm big and loud about,
such as Christian Menifee down in the special election in
Houston for the old Sevester Turner, the old Shila Jackson Lee,
the old Barbara Jordan's seat, old Mickey Leland's seat, Kirk

(01:49:57):
Washington seat, so historic seat.

Speaker 5 (01:50:00):
So I've been out front with him.

Speaker 34 (01:50:01):
But there are other people that I have helped out,
whether it was mayoral races or state house races and
things like that, and.

Speaker 5 (01:50:08):
People just don't forget. And that's been all over the state.

Speaker 34 (01:50:13):
So I think that that will serve me well if
we decide to run statewide, because we have people that
already have their own machines kind of together that allowed
them to be elected, and I would imagine that they
would be helpful in making sure that I could tap
into their machines as well.

Speaker 8 (01:50:28):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
If Colin Alred could raised ninety million dollars last year
against Senator Ted Cruz. Of course he's in this race
as well. I figure, you decide to run one hundred million,
ain't gonna be a problem.

Speaker 5 (01:50:41):
I don't know if I would say ain't gonna be
a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
I don't think a.

Speaker 5 (01:50:46):
Well, we will hustle, we will fight.

Speaker 1 (01:50:48):
I'm saying it right now, Coswoman Jasmine Crocket, if you
run for United States Senate, you're gonna raise more than
one hundred million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
I'm putting that. I'm putting that mark on the table
right now.

Speaker 5 (01:51:00):
Okay, I'll take it, all right, God.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
Crockett, I appreciate it from yes black hell on the
show and the chorus, as also my congress woman. I'm
a constituent, which I made perfectly clear to Stephen A.

Speaker 8 (01:51:13):
Smith.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
You want to talk to a constituent to know what
she's doing, come.

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
Talk to me, because I actually vote in the thirtieth Congressional.

Speaker 5 (01:51:21):
District along with your parents, who I love.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
Yeah, all y'all listen, they worked the polls, they do
all this sort of stuff. What the hell are y'all
doing in the control room putting this this behind me?

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
What's going on?

Speaker 8 (01:51:32):
Lord?

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
Have mercy gus when we gotta go, I appreciate it.
Thanks a lot. What's wrong, Matt, Matt, while you're cracking up,
you got your ass on the open road. No, I
don't know what the hell.

Speaker 1 (01:51:44):
First of all, I told them to change this damn
TV it times out. I told them that I don't
know why the hell, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
Y'all that's you hitting out to college. Y'all. Didn't I
make clear why, like like I make clear to fixed this?

Speaker 12 (01:51:59):
You know whatssroads?

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
Hey, hey, hey, hey, don't don't worry about it. Don't
worry about it. I'm hiring somebody and it's gonna be
all taken care of come January one. Don't worry about it.
I'm just letting to letting you know, just letting you know.
I'm gonna go. Let you know it's gonna be all
take care of. All Right, I'm gonna go to a break.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
We come back.

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
We got our marketplace segment right here. I'm rolling about
unfiltered the Black Star Network.

Speaker 18 (01:52:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:52:25):
And oh, by the way, Matt, we're still eight to
oh and number three in the country Texas A and m.

Speaker 14 (01:52:33):
Yeah, you know that when we won that game, you
ain't show up. You just go play golf.

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
No, no, I play golf anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
But again I wasn't I wasn't concerned about I wasn't
concerned about unranked teams all right back at the moment,
back in a moment.

Speaker 15 (01:52:52):
If in this country, right now, you have people get
up in the morning and the only thing they can
think about is how many people they can hurt.

Speaker 8 (01:53:00):
And they've got the power.

Speaker 17 (01:53:02):
That's the time for morning, for better or worse.

Speaker 23 (01:53:05):
What makes America special, It's that legal system that's supposed
to protect minorities from the tyranny of the majority.

Speaker 10 (01:53:13):
We are at a point of a moral emergency. We
must raise a voice of outrage.

Speaker 24 (01:53:21):
We must raise a voice of compassion, and we must
raise a voice of unity.

Speaker 8 (01:53:28):
We are not in a crisis of party versus party.

Speaker 15 (01:53:32):
We are in a crisis of civilization, a humans rights crisis,
and a crisis of democracy itself. And guess what, You've
been chosen to make sure that those that would destroy,
those that would hate, don't have the final say and
they don't ultimately win.

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
Hey, this is more time recording artist skim. You are
watching Roland Martin unfiltered. Boy, he always unfiltered. I ain't
never known him to be filtered.

Speaker 8 (01:54:01):
Is there nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
Is there another way to experience Roland Martin than to
be unfiltered? Course he's unfiltered. Would you expect anything less?

Speaker 8 (01:54:09):
Why watch what?

Speaker 7 (01:54:10):
WA's what happens next?

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
Alright, folks were.

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
Near the how they season and we're here to help
you find that perfect gift.

Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
How about jewelry?

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
Giselle is still a jewelry, a black woman owned brand,
redefining what everyday luxury looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
They may just have the piece you need. Candis is
like oh ship.

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
With more than twenty years in the industry, Jazelle Stella
Jewelry combines bull style with timeless elegance, creating pieces that
empower confidence and celebrate individuality. Allie Davis, founder and CEO
of Jozelle Stella Jewlry, jonas right now, glad to have
you here.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
First of all, who the hell is Jaselle Stella.

Speaker 30 (01:55:19):
That's a very good question. It's actually my daughter's name.
I was like, what, what's a good rich sounding name?

Speaker 8 (01:55:25):
You know what?

Speaker 12 (01:55:26):
I did that already, my daughter.

Speaker 14 (01:55:28):
I'm sitting there lying.

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
I'm like your name, Ali, I'm like, who is just Zale?
Why don't you start this?

Speaker 12 (01:55:35):
I started this in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 30 (01:55:38):
I've been doing this for a little while now. I'm
been doing this for about twenty years, but Gazelle Stella
started in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (01:55:45):
So we say you've been doing it. What does that mean.

Speaker 12 (01:55:48):
I've been in a.

Speaker 30 (01:55:48):
Jewelry industry for almost almost twenty five years. I'm a
graduate gemologist by trade.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
So jewelry is he you said, a graduate gemologist?

Speaker 30 (01:55:58):
Graduate gemologists from the gemal Logical Institute of America.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
The Gemalogical Institute of America.

Speaker 8 (01:56:04):
Where is that?

Speaker 30 (01:56:05):
That is based out of New York and out of Carlsbag, California,
at Great Diamonds.

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
Okay, all right, cold cold, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
So in twenty years and so then you decided to
say I'm gonna do my own line.

Speaker 17 (01:56:19):
Yes, okay, Actually exactly what happened.

Speaker 8 (01:56:23):
Okay.

Speaker 30 (01:56:24):
I was in the corporate space for a long time,
and I've dealt with high end pieces to costume pieces,
and I kept noticing that there was a gap, especially
for women of color, to be able to find luxury
at an affordable price. And I figured that I would
probably be one of the best people to fill that gap.
So that's where Gazelle Stella came from.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
All right, Dan, So this right here, so the box
you sent is what is this?

Speaker 8 (01:56:50):
Is this cost the shipping box?

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
Okay, so it's costume jewelry or what is it?

Speaker 30 (01:56:54):
It's called demi fine, So it's not quite costume jewelry,
meaning that it won't turn green and it's hypo allergenic.

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
But that's a good ass thing, not turning green.

Speaker 30 (01:57:05):
Nobody wants that, but believe or not, we pay for that.
So Giselle Feller does not offer that kind of jewelry.
We call it demi fine because we're using eighteen carrot
gold bonded sustainless steel, so that gives you a hypo
allergetic quality as well as gives you the craftsmanship of
eighteen carrot gold.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
And to all, I see somebody in the chat they say, Roland,
we are boycott of the holidays, but we will always
support black business owners. Okay, we're boycotting those people. We
ain't boycotting black businesses. So okay, so let's go through here.
So all right, so we got these uh these okay,
let me take them out. So and again I know

(01:57:43):
I'm telling you all right now y'all, y'all need give
Candis is like.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
Oh, what are you about to open? What are you
about to open?

Speaker 8 (01:57:50):
For you?

Speaker 12 (01:57:50):
I promise.

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
I've been on hot already, see okay.

Speaker 3 (01:57:57):
Already earlier today.

Speaker 5 (01:57:58):
All right, I'm on, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (01:58:01):
I just need to be there at the studio with
that boss at Bowling.

Speaker 1 (01:58:04):
Nope, nope, nope, sorry, sorry, ain't gonna happen keeping it
from you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
Okay, Well, we got here, We got here, We.

Speaker 12 (01:58:10):
Got that's the bold toggle. That's actually what I'm wearing
right now.

Speaker 8 (01:58:13):
All right?

Speaker 14 (01:58:14):
What is this called the bold toggle?

Speaker 12 (01:58:16):
It's a toggle necklace eighteen carried golden stainless steel.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
Okay, all right, cool, let's see here. What is this here?

Speaker 11 (01:58:25):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:58:25):
Let me open this here up? And this is.

Speaker 12 (01:58:34):
Sorry that one is? That one is a locket penance.

Speaker 30 (01:58:36):
So it has czs in the center of it and
a little heart that gives you like kind of that
high end refined look and a great piece for laying.

Speaker 1 (01:58:45):
All right, then, all right, it looks like what's there
some heart ear rings?

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
That what I got here?

Speaker 8 (01:58:52):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:58:53):
Got these right here?

Speaker 12 (01:58:57):
Ah, those are the contour hoops. I actually we have
these here as well.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
They are oh no, no, the contra hoops. These are
the contra hoops right here.

Speaker 30 (01:59:05):
Oh okay, apologize, So that's these here. I have them
in silver, you have them in gold. Yep, but there
are number one selling hoops.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
No, these are the heart shaped heart pear old.

Speaker 7 (01:59:17):
Ah.

Speaker 30 (01:59:18):
Yes, that's those are a hot summertime vibe as well
as a fall look.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
Okay, all right then, so let's see here what else
we got in here?

Speaker 8 (01:59:27):
We got.

Speaker 2 (01:59:30):
This dainty thing right here. That is the I Believe.

Speaker 12 (01:59:34):
That's I Am Enough pendant. That is our number one
selling pendent.

Speaker 2 (01:59:37):
I am enough, I am enough.

Speaker 30 (01:59:40):
We recognize that it's all about people feeling confident themselves.
So we have a whole line of I am enough,
I am worthy, I deserve I'm blessed.

Speaker 8 (01:59:49):
Gotcha.

Speaker 1 (01:59:51):
Matt probably is going to get one of those, so
because he's probably saying they deserve a wind.

Speaker 2 (01:59:57):
Let's see here, let's go through here. We've got uh
got a bracelet here, Yes.

Speaker 30 (02:00:04):
The classic, the classic bracelet. That one slides right on
the wrist and you could stack them all right.

Speaker 2 (02:00:10):
Oh and the and these are uh these silver.

Speaker 12 (02:00:16):
I believe that's what you're looking at.

Speaker 2 (02:00:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, look like sea ship.

Speaker 12 (02:00:20):
Yes, yes, and they're three D that's one of my
favorite pieces.

Speaker 2 (02:00:23):
They're three D. Yeah.

Speaker 30 (02:00:25):
So if you spin it around in all these different directions,
you can see from different profiles they look very different.

Speaker 8 (02:00:31):
All right, cool?

Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
Cool questions from the panel.

Speaker 18 (02:00:34):
Uh, Candice, you first, well, let me just say, folks,
you've got to go to Jailsella dot com.

Speaker 2 (02:00:41):
No, no, no, no, they gotta go to shop Blackstart
Network dot com.

Speaker 3 (02:00:44):
I'm sorry, Yes, shop Blackstar Network dot com.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
Go shot black bet network dot com.

Speaker 3 (02:00:50):
The cuffs I am loving.

Speaker 18 (02:00:52):
I mean, the studs are just really elegant. You've got
something called Heart's Desire that that my heart desires. I
just want to say that it's beautiful and just learning
about your history and what you bring to the table,
it is clear when you go to the website through
Roland's Network that you have good taste. So I want

(02:01:13):
to make sure women know before you know, they just say,
oh that sounds nice.

Speaker 3 (02:01:18):
Go online, and then.

Speaker 1 (02:01:20):
In the control room pull pullshop Blackslid network dot com
so they can actually see it on our website.

Speaker 2 (02:01:26):
Okay, let's keep going.

Speaker 3 (02:01:28):
Yeah, go online, because the other thing is the price
point really is lovely. Now you might have some people
out there and say, well, you know, thirty forty dollars
for this to look like this and to be that
price point.

Speaker 2 (02:01:39):
They paying that at TJ Max.

Speaker 12 (02:01:42):
And Rolls, tell them what it is.

Speaker 14 (02:01:45):
Come on, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:01:47):
Well, that's what I'm saying, that it's a good price point.

Speaker 18 (02:01:49):
Yeah, I mean, you're gonna have some complain, but you're right,
You're I'm just saying, this economy is crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:01:54):
But it's worth it. And the fact that you have that,
you know, you bring the expertise and you have excellent choice.
I really really love it.

Speaker 12 (02:02:02):
How did you get.

Speaker 18 (02:02:03):
Involved in this whole market space of jewelry because it's
not easy. I can't imagine that our particular demographic is
walking around and there are dozens of us there.

Speaker 8 (02:02:15):
How did you do it?

Speaker 12 (02:02:17):
I've always been the token in the space, if you
know what I mean.

Speaker 30 (02:02:20):
And it has been a long, long standing time where
I'm either the only black person in a group of
Jewish people or the only black person in a group
of Indian people. And that's kind of the space that
I'm in. And I've always been able to hold my own,
from being a store manager to doing regional work, to
working in.

Speaker 12 (02:02:38):
Corporate to being a director of merchandise. It has always
been a realm.

Speaker 30 (02:02:42):
I've excelled in and I've loved every bit of it.
I love being a part of people's stories, and honestly,
that's kind of why we stand for luxury without limits.
It's pretty much my philosophy. I want to keep people,
especially women of color, in the luxury space in an
affordable time.

Speaker 12 (02:02:59):
Because right now it's hard, but you still should be able.

Speaker 9 (02:03:02):
To look good.

Speaker 18 (02:03:04):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I just want to tell a really,
really good story to take twenty seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:03:09):
I remember that there was this woman and we were
in a mostly.

Speaker 18 (02:03:12):
White space and the other black women were looking at
her beautiful bracelet, and that bracelet really they talked about
it so much that this statement piece it said a
lot about her that they bought into immediately.

Speaker 14 (02:03:24):
People really do notice jewelry.

Speaker 3 (02:03:27):
I have seen it, you know.

Speaker 18 (02:03:28):
And if you have that one statement piece that you
get or two or three off your website, trust me,
people respond. I've seen people go crazy and think just
beautiful things about a person just because of the statement
piece that they have.

Speaker 30 (02:03:43):
Absolutely, and you know how we are like ooh girl, earrings,
ooh girl, you know netlace, So those statement pieces definitely
capture the eye. And if you there's no reason we
can't own a few nice pieces. If not, more so,
why can't we make it affordable? And why can't we
make it something that it can be to the masks
and still look.

Speaker 8 (02:04:02):
Good and still be.

Speaker 19 (02:04:07):
Michael, all right, yeah, okay, Ali, I'm on your website
and under neew arrivals, I see your Prestige poodle necklace
and Prestige Poodle ear rings, and that looks like it's
in blue and gold. It's like some people a system
of Sigma Gamma rose rodin my So, so my girlfriends

(02:04:27):
in Aka, do you have anything in peak and green?

Speaker 8 (02:04:30):
I do not?

Speaker 1 (02:04:33):
Okay, so what so what she's saying is what she's
saying is bout the damn goal Alpha goal by the
silver You good, Aka, don't only well pikas Aka, don't
only wear peaking green?

Speaker 30 (02:04:50):
Michael, that part, but believe it or not, Michael, the
reason I have that Prestige pool collection is actually a fundraiser.
So I'm all about giving community service, giving back to community.
So we did the proceed Poodle fundraiser for a chapter
of Sigmi gum Rossory Incorporated that was able to pour
back into the community.

Speaker 12 (02:05:07):
So they actually were able.

Speaker 30 (02:05:08):
To earn one thy twenty two dollars actually from that fundraiser.

Speaker 19 (02:05:14):
Okay, good, good, Matt without without Roland's input.

Speaker 2 (02:05:21):
First of all, first of all, ain't no segment if
I ain't got no input. Let's just be real clear.

Speaker 1 (02:05:29):
So Matt sitting here wearing a shirt with quite a
handsome gentleman on it, and so you you damn right,
I'm king petty.

Speaker 2 (02:05:40):
Go ahead with go ahead, with your go ahead with
go ahead with your little question.

Speaker 12 (02:05:46):
Wow, who have you.

Speaker 2 (02:05:49):
Finished or is done? Roland?

Speaker 14 (02:05:51):
Here's the question is what have you found to be
the response to partnering with the other entrepreneurs to shop
red Bag. I thought that was really like a Dolte partnership.
And I'm assuming what's.

Speaker 20 (02:06:05):
Happening is you have a lot of cross pollination where
people are buying from you, then they're buying from a
sister who's selling clothing, and then buying you know, maybe
skin care products or whatever else.

Speaker 14 (02:06:14):
But what does that partnership look like? What was the
genesis of that? And you know what is it looking
like these days?

Speaker 8 (02:06:20):
Sure?

Speaker 30 (02:06:21):
So Adrian from Sisters Media reached out to me, was like, hey,
I think your brand would look really good on Shop
Red Bag, and I was.

Speaker 12 (02:06:28):
Like, thank you.

Speaker 30 (02:06:28):
We had a great dialogue and we started there. And
from the cross pollination of like the I am enough
necklace to mash up with you know, a dopte top
or a nice blazer has been really good combo. So
I'm seeing really good feedback when it comes to getting
pieces that are simplistic and elegant and speaks to that

(02:06:48):
person as an individual.

Speaker 3 (02:06:52):
Can I just jump there right quickly?

Speaker 2 (02:06:53):
Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 18 (02:06:55):
I just wanted to because I know you got some
you know, Jones and and all that stuff to do
with Matt, but quickly I know that. Well, I just
want to make sure that people understood that before when
I was making reference to the price, I was trying
to say it was a good price.

Speaker 14 (02:07:10):
Yeah overall.

Speaker 8 (02:07:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:07:12):
Yeah. But first of all, listen, it's okay to say affordable.

Speaker 1 (02:07:15):
I mean, the bottom line is as as Ali Man,
you got high end jewelry, uh, you have less expensive dribs.
The bottom line is it's affordable. At the end of
the day, if you want to move product, listen, you're
either going to have very expensive small customer base, but
they're gonna but a high profit margin or you're gonna
move product to have affordable jewelry. And the key Ali

(02:07:39):
what you talk about that is affordable quality jewelry because
again listen, I mean I'm a I don't do jewelry,
but I've dealt with enough women in jewelry.

Speaker 2 (02:07:51):
Uh, and so well I have.

Speaker 1 (02:07:52):
I got to share three sisters of mama, I got
nine nieces r. So hell, I got got a wife.
I kind of know about.

Speaker 2 (02:07:59):
Jewelry, and so quality jewelry is important. It's not cheap.
That is well crafted, that good materials, that last.

Speaker 17 (02:08:10):
That's it.

Speaker 15 (02:08:11):
That is it.

Speaker 12 (02:08:11):
That is the summation of it. A quick story.

Speaker 30 (02:08:15):
My mother in law went to Dubai with some pieces
and she was like, I swim in the water and
he died the salt and the blah blah blah.

Speaker 12 (02:08:22):
She came back and she's like it didn't turn green.

Speaker 30 (02:08:24):
And I'm like that that's the point, right, Like, that
is the point to be able to have pieces that
you could wear that is a high quality.

Speaker 12 (02:08:31):
That you didn't have.

Speaker 2 (02:08:32):
Now, Allie, you know the at what you said, you
were like, hell, yeah, my ship didn't turn green.

Speaker 14 (02:08:36):
I'm like, all right, come on, young mother, in law.

Speaker 12 (02:08:40):
But I don't speak to my mother in law.

Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
Like if I had a jewelry business and my said, oh,
this isn't turn green, I'm like, what the hell you think?

Speaker 2 (02:08:48):
It didn't turn like you? Damn right. My ship didn't
turn green.

Speaker 12 (02:08:52):
And it better not because we tested too many things
for it to be turned to turn green.

Speaker 30 (02:08:57):
I worked too hard to make sure that this product
is worth we're putting it, and if it doesn't work,
then I won't.

Speaker 2 (02:09:02):
Work with it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
My daddy always texted me doing the show, so he's like,
what she got for me?

Speaker 2 (02:09:08):
In that's literally the text.

Speaker 30 (02:09:10):
I have a few features, so I have some chain,
some breaks. The dragon cuban, I think he might enjoy that.

Speaker 2 (02:09:19):
Gotcha.

Speaker 1 (02:09:20):
Well, see, I normally, I normally don't wear any jewel
except rings.

Speaker 2 (02:09:24):
As I'm sure Michael can see this. Uh this alpha
ring right here, I'm sure a little alpha ring. No,
I know, I don't think this little son.

Speaker 1 (02:09:32):
I don't think this little I don't think this little Now,
if that was a little sigma up here, yeah that
would be a little ring. But yeah, matter of fact,
you can see this all the way from Detroit without
the camera, right and more than likely and more than likely.
My text is agg is handling business. We're gonna probably

(02:09:53):
have rings larger than this Matt team won't. But it's
all good, all right, Ali, So here's the deal. Uh So,
I'm see the folks. And so that was a glitch, everybody,
that was a glitch. And so the items from Giselle
still a jury. We'll be on shop Blackstart network dot com.
Uh So there was a slight glitch with the upload,

(02:10:15):
and so I'm texting them right now.

Speaker 2 (02:10:17):
So check back on the site in about ten minutes.
You will see the.

Speaker 1 (02:10:20):
Products on there again is Giselle Stella Jewelry. Fantastic items. Ali, Well,
appreciate you being on the show.

Speaker 2 (02:10:27):
Thanks a lot, Thank you.

Speaker 12 (02:10:29):
Everybody, have a blessed rest of your day.

Speaker 2 (02:10:30):
Absolutely, that's right, non green jewelry, that's right. Appreciate it.
Thank you so very much.

Speaker 1 (02:10:38):
All right, y'all, that's if us Matt, Matt, why don't
you you know what says Matt, Hey, keaty while we
go ahead and do this here. So I'm trying to
figure go ahead. I'm trying to think what photo do
I want? What a photo do I want to use?

Speaker 8 (02:10:54):
You know?

Speaker 1 (02:10:54):
So Matt want to sit here a time about King Penny.
So the photo Matt got right now, that photo is
when we were the Television Critics Association. We were announcing
news one. Now we're announcing launching news one now. So
I'm trying to see what what what do I want
to go with for King Petty. Uh, let's see here,

(02:11:16):
what a photo do I really really want to go with?

Speaker 14 (02:11:19):
Uh, you can go ahead and run me this check
for this design.

Speaker 1 (02:11:23):
No no, no, no, no, no no no, Trusted Matt,
I guarantee you we will not be using that design.

Speaker 2 (02:11:29):
That that's not that's not a design. Just want to
let you know.

Speaker 1 (02:11:34):
I mean, I mean that's like I said that, that's
that's a nice that's a nice attempt. But I'm just
saying we probably would use a different little font something
like that, because like right now, I'm being petty about
your King Petty shirt.

Speaker 14 (02:11:46):
So it's not working.

Speaker 2 (02:11:48):
Though it is working. You can go ahead, it is working.

Speaker 1 (02:11:52):
No, no, no, see uh I think so for the
folks who watch it, let's see here, let me see
that y'all want to.

Speaker 3 (02:11:58):
Have a whole new stamp where you're sitting in that chair.

Speaker 1 (02:12:01):
You're like, so, so the folks watching, y'all want to
go with that one?

Speaker 26 (02:12:06):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:12:07):
Or do you do y'all want to go with that one? Okay,
let's see here, do y'all want to go with that? See, Matt,
you can't even pull that look off that you can't here,
you can't even pull that look off. Let's see here,
do you Let's see y'all want to go with that one?

Speaker 2 (02:12:27):
See, Matt, you can't, Matt, you can't.

Speaker 1 (02:12:30):
Matt, don't hate congratulate, I might, I might, let you celebrate.
Let's see here. Oh, Matt, you can't do this one?
Oh hell now, Matt, Matt, you can't.

Speaker 2 (02:12:42):
Matt, you can't do this with Matt. Matt, Matt. That's it.

Speaker 1 (02:12:50):
That's the one right there. That's gonna be the keen
petty one right there. Okay, all, Matt, you can't see
Michael like ship, I ain't saying nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:12:59):
I ain't even to touch that.

Speaker 14 (02:13:03):
Whatever you got to tell yourself, brother, even you know it,
you know it. But I know I show I know,
I show you know it.

Speaker 1 (02:13:10):
And see right now, the fellow, the fellow lawyer on
your panel.

Speaker 2 (02:13:15):
She like, I can't I can't help his answer on
this one.

Speaker 1 (02:13:17):
She like, I'm just gonna sit this one out, she like,
she like, I can't help him out on this one.

Speaker 2 (02:13:23):
I can't help him on this one.

Speaker 8 (02:13:25):
She said.

Speaker 3 (02:13:26):
Just say, you know, let the games begin.

Speaker 14 (02:13:28):
I'm here, I'll.

Speaker 1 (02:13:29):
Ship, she said. She said, Matt on it can, said
Matt on his own.

Speaker 2 (02:13:34):
Matt on his own, on his own. So, uh, there
you go. So that's it for us.

Speaker 1 (02:13:41):
Hey, no, listen, uh this weekend three thirty pm Easter Tomorrow,
Texas A and m Versus Missouri.

Speaker 8 (02:13:47):
Matt.

Speaker 2 (02:13:48):
Y'all, y'all play some high school team yall got this weekend?

Speaker 14 (02:13:51):
We gotta buy, we gotta buy a week?

Speaker 2 (02:13:52):
All good? All right? Cool? When y'all lose this week,
when y'all lose this week, I want you to show up. No, no, no, no,
the ain't gonna happen. We're not losing. We losing. We
ain't losing, Sun. We ain't losing. We're not losing Sun.
We ain't losing. We ain't losing. Just we ain't losing.
Just that. No son, no, no, no, no, no, no.

(02:14:13):
See how many losses? How many losses y'all got? Two? Three?

Speaker 14 (02:14:17):
What y'all that's nhent history. Let's go forward with my brother.

Speaker 2 (02:14:22):
Wait. Hold up. That's a like last month. That's what.

Speaker 1 (02:14:26):
Okay, all right, there we go, all right, okay, all right, gotcha, okay, okay, gotcha,
yeah whatever you say?

Speaker 2 (02:14:35):
Uh kenus? What you got going on this weekend?

Speaker 14 (02:14:38):
Oh this weekend?

Speaker 1 (02:14:40):
You know what?

Speaker 18 (02:14:41):
I have to do a little bit of shopping, and
which is why was interested in getting into the network.
So hopefully it is up online because I did check
and I saw the glitch.

Speaker 3 (02:14:50):
So I'm waiting for that glitch to.

Speaker 1 (02:14:52):
Be done, all right, so I'm trust being I'm hitting
them right now. I'm like, don't you having me doing
the segment? And y'all ain't got the stuff straight? And
you know, just say, oh, by the way, Matt, since
you know, since we already on here. So not only
is Texas A and M. Not only is Texas A
and M undefeated also Jack Yates High School, Houston, Texas

(02:15:17):
also nine and no undefeated. See Matt, it all go together,
Jack Yates, Texas A and M.

Speaker 2 (02:15:25):
We we used to win it, Matt, we used to
win it.

Speaker 1 (02:15:31):
Now, I don't know about you. I don't know about you, Matt.
I don't know about you. I don't know about you, Matt.
I don't know about you. But I'm just saying, so
congregulations to Jack Yates. They playing for high school tonight.
We're gonna smack that ass. I mean, I was zoned
to fur. I went to Yates with school communications.

Speaker 2 (02:15:48):
Fred got no shot, So just want to shout them out.
I just show up next week, Hey, son ay Son,
I'll be gonna son son first.

Speaker 1 (02:15:56):
Fell to be real clear, let's be real clear. I
am traveling to Bermuda on Monday. I'll be broadcasting from there.
Uh you've got yeah, because the the Bermuda Tourism Bureau,
it's invited to be that the premiere of Bermuda.

Speaker 2 (02:16:10):
Uh is an alpha. Sorry, Michael, you should know that.
I mean, I mean some things are consistent.

Speaker 8 (02:16:15):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:16:15):
So they got a PGA tour stop. So I'm playing
in the program on Tuesday and Wednesday. I'll be of
course at the tournament Thursday and Friday. My birthday is
next Friday, so I will be I'll be Uh. I'll
be live from Bermuda all week next week. Uh enjoy
the sun. Uh basking in a great time doing some

(02:16:36):
interviews there as well. Uh So yeah, I'm unbothered, Matt,
I'm uthered.

Speaker 3 (02:16:43):
How the other happening there with the government shut flights.

Speaker 12 (02:16:50):
Wait, I don't know if you're talking to me.

Speaker 8 (02:16:51):
No, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (02:16:52):
You said, yeah, listen, I ain't worth listen flights.

Speaker 12 (02:16:56):
You might get stuck there.

Speaker 3 (02:16:56):
It's not a bad thing, but these flights.

Speaker 1 (02:16:59):
Trust me, I get back. It's gonna be enough. Private jets.
I ain't worried about that.

Speaker 2 (02:17:04):
I talked to somebody, so you know, I hit your
ride with somebody. Ain't worried. What what's wrong Mack that
you know they people.

Speaker 17 (02:17:13):
Can't put food and they refrigerated.

Speaker 14 (02:17:14):
You're talking about private jets.

Speaker 27 (02:17:16):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:17:16):
What I'm saying is I guarantee you somebody listen. I'm
gonna figure out. I'm gonna figure out how to get
it right. I'm gonna tell you right now.

Speaker 2 (02:17:24):
It was a few. It was I need to find
a photo.

Speaker 1 (02:17:29):
It was a massive storm came through DC and I
got stuck in Miami had a spear.

Speaker 2 (02:17:35):
It was like Miami.

Speaker 1 (02:17:36):
One of them one of them plays was near West
Palm and I got.

Speaker 2 (02:17:39):
Stuck out to give a speech.

Speaker 1 (02:17:40):
I got stuck, man, I couldn't get back. So then
my alpha brother, sorry Michael Lameel mcmoorris his agency represented
Cam Newton. So he was flying to Charlotte. He was
flying to Charlotte for the NFC Championship games.

Speaker 2 (02:17:54):
He said, Yo, he said, and we were gonna both
go to Houston.

Speaker 1 (02:17:58):
I'm sorry New York for Susan. He was National Cares
beennering galup. So I flew up with him on his
plane to the game.

Speaker 2 (02:18:05):
Then Yah, while there, Hey, he had said I gotta
go to the land after the game for a meeting.
So I was like, damn.

Speaker 1 (02:18:11):
So I run to Michael straight Hand. Well straight Hand
was flying back to New York on his plane. So hell,
I rode him this plane. See Mike, see see Matt.
I'm gonna figure it out. I'm gonna figure it out, Matt.
I'm gonna figure it out, all right, all right, So
let it takes. So when your so, Matt, when your bus,
when your bus arrived, then I'll send an uber for you.

Speaker 17 (02:18:34):
I'm moving to New York.

Speaker 2 (02:18:35):
It's free baby.

Speaker 14 (02:18:35):
Shout out to mont Donnie.

Speaker 2 (02:18:37):
You're huh, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:18:39):
Move to New York with the free buses from Oh,
you're gonna go from Corpus Christian to New York.

Speaker 8 (02:18:44):
Okay, what you gotta do okay, all.

Speaker 1 (02:18:47):
Right, that's good, that's good. Appreciate that again, Q shirt.
But Matt, I know you ain't never you ain't never
wore Howard shirt. How did you go to Howard like
you ain't never wore how a shirt on the show.

Speaker 2 (02:19:01):
You've won Longhorn stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:19:03):
You ain't never repped Howard. I got an intern in
there from Howard. He finds that insulting, embarrassing, he told me,
he said, he said, I'm greatly disappointed in my fellow Bison.
He said that, he said, he told me, he said
he has the audacity, the unmitigated gaw.

Speaker 2 (02:19:24):
This is this is what Logan said. Logan said, he said, Mason,
he said he has he has.

Speaker 1 (02:19:32):
He said, he has the audacity, the unmitigated gall to
come on a black show wearing them orange ugly ass
orange colors and not one flashing his little horns. He said,
not one time has he repped the Bison, the Howard
Bison on the show. And I said, I said show

(02:19:54):
I went to school with, I said Logan, people on
this show. Yeah, no, no, no, no, but but you
but you on first of all, you brought your hands.

Speaker 2 (02:20:02):
On here with an orange suit.

Speaker 14 (02:20:05):
Yeah, and it was flying too.

Speaker 2 (02:20:06):
You ain't never, you ain't never?

Speaker 1 (02:20:08):
Even hey Lorgan once y'all colors blue, red, white and blue.

Speaker 2 (02:20:14):
He ain't never wore a red, white and blue suit.

Speaker 14 (02:20:21):
Are you done?

Speaker 2 (02:20:22):
I'm just saying, are you not proud of your alma mater? Man?

Speaker 14 (02:20:29):
Extremely proud?

Speaker 2 (02:20:32):
What happened? Did? Did?

Speaker 25 (02:20:34):
Did?

Speaker 2 (02:20:34):
What you had?

Speaker 8 (02:20:36):
Like?

Speaker 2 (02:20:36):
Did you have some issues? Like you never worn a
Howard shirt on the show?

Speaker 17 (02:20:43):
You see how negroes do?

Speaker 14 (02:20:44):
They say you ain't want a Howard shirt? What happened
to you while you were at Howard?

Speaker 2 (02:20:48):
I'm just asked. I'm like, I'm just saying, you ain't never,
you ain't never here.

Speaker 1 (02:20:54):
I'm just saying, man, Mike frisis, Cannas cannons what college?

Speaker 2 (02:20:58):
Don't you cannons with college wringing?

Speaker 3 (02:21:01):
I went, I went to Howard, and I went to
seat in Hall All and I went to Syracuse.

Speaker 2 (02:21:05):
Because here's the deal. She ain't never wore no other
school stuff on the show.

Speaker 1 (02:21:09):
So I would never ask Kennis why you ain't never
warn a Howard shirt?

Speaker 2 (02:21:13):
Why you ain't never wore Seaton Hall? Because she was
from the school. But Matt, you come here. When my
parents went there, they met there, and I was born.

Speaker 1 (02:21:21):
I was essentially born on I was I was I
was a toddler crawling around on the grounds of concrete.

Speaker 2 (02:21:30):
You and so it's in my DNA.

Speaker 1 (02:21:33):
You've never ever repped the Black College, the mecca that
gave you your foundation, Like why.

Speaker 14 (02:21:44):
I have definitely warned Howard Hoodie on the shirt.

Speaker 1 (02:21:46):
Matter of fact, Oh you have find No, No, there's
no evidence you always ever seen No, we've never seen it.

Speaker 2 (02:21:55):
We've never seen it. No, we've never seen it.

Speaker 14 (02:21:58):
Talk about it all the time for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:22:00):
The people, the.

Speaker 1 (02:22:02):
People, the people in the chat the people in the
chat room were saying, shame on you, Matt, shame on
you were not representing.

Speaker 14 (02:22:12):
Hey, breing my accusers out right now.

Speaker 2 (02:22:14):
Let me show you that.

Speaker 1 (02:22:15):
They're saying ship start. They're saying shame on you, Matt,
shame on you are y'all, I'm done.

Speaker 2 (02:22:23):
I'm done with Matt.

Speaker 1 (02:22:24):
Y'all go to shot Black studon network dot com. Uh,
the glitch has been fixed. It's been fixed.

Speaker 2 (02:22:30):
I got it right here. Look pull it up. Come on, y'all,
pull up.

Speaker 1 (02:22:33):
So Giselle Stellar Jewelry found out by Ali Davis. You
see all the items right there on the website. Uh,
and you see the bracelet, the ear rings, you see
all of that we talked about even even one of these.
We didn't show these Krena ear rings. I'm in open cool,
So check those out. So go to shot Black studn
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Speaker 2 (02:22:52):
All right, y'all, that's it.

Speaker 1 (02:22:54):
Uh So let me think Candice, let me think Michael,
and let me think uh that howard hater Matt.

Speaker 8 (02:23:05):
Matt.

Speaker 1 (02:23:05):
If you, Matt, you should go meditate, you should go pray,
uh and you should resolve taking that Matt Man, Matt,
you should go resolve whatever issues you have and next
week at least have the decency. Logan is like, please,
can the man please at least represent our alma mater

(02:23:28):
at least one time.

Speaker 2 (02:23:30):
I am just I am Matt. I am just a message, Matt, Matt.

Speaker 1 (02:23:35):
I am just a messenger. I am just the messenger
from poor frustrated. Uh sulling it logan, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:23:46):
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