Jabari Peoples' Autopsy, Gary Mayor on $14B Steel Deal, Saint Augustine’s Alumni Silenced & GymWrap

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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Folks Nays two is the July fifteen, twenty twenty five
coming up on Roland Marked Unfiltered streaming live on the
black Star Network. The family of Jabari Peoples does their
own independent autops. It will be joined by their family attorney,
Ben Crump to discuss those findings. In Gary, Indiana, their
home to the nation's largest steel mill, the mayor of
the predominantly afric American city would join us to talk

(00:41):
about how the fourteen billion dollar partnership between US Steel
and Nippan Steel could impact African Americans. Also on today's show,
voices of Saint Augustin's University that they're being silenced. They're
rep that alumni rep has been voted upon, but they
won't put him on the board.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
What the hell is going on?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Plus it's nice shot Blackstar Network Shop, Blackstar Network dot
Com marketplace. We'll talk to actors. The court then called
Are Parker about her product, Jim rap Ooh and congress
Woman Jasmine Crockett had a couple of things to say
about all these red states complaining about blue states. But
she like, that's what the blue The blue state got

(01:24):
all the money. And Bill Maher shows his shows he's
an ass again. I'll unpack that and explain to you
why it is beyond stupid when you listen to Bill Maherr,
talk's time to bring the funk roll unfiltered, a little
black start network.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Let's go whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Fine, he's right on top, and best believe he's going.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
To politics with entertainment. Just bookcase. He's stolen.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Growing out.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
It's rolling Monte. He's pronkkys chrest.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
She's real.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Good question, No, he's rolling Monte.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Were buried all the child Saturday and.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Were buried him Saturday.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
Yeah, it's just it's hard. It's hard to even think
about burying your child. It's hard about ever you want
your child.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
To bury you?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
You don't want it.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
You had to bury the chann No parent, no, no parents.
Only thing we want to do is see the video.
We want to see the video. Just show us what
happened to our child.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Please please, thanks guys, folks. That is the family of
Jabari people's young man in Homewood, Alabama, who was shot
and killed by police. They're not releasing the body cam footage.
The family is saying they want it to be released.

(03:30):
The results of the independent autopsy revealed the eighteen year
old Jabari Peoples died from a gunshot wound to the
back during the police encounter that took place on June
twenty third in Homewood. Again, they've yet to release the
bodycam footage, claiming that that will impede the investigation. Ben
crumpt family attorney joins us Right now, Ben, We've been
down this road many many times, and one of the

(03:52):
things that we know is that if this video exonerated
the cops, it would have been out a long time ago.

Speaker 7 (04:02):
Yeah, yeah, Roland. That's the hypocrisy of it all.

Speaker 8 (04:06):
If it was somebody from our neighborhood, from our community
who did something inappropriate or did something that was criminal,
they would have that blasted all across.

Speaker 7 (04:19):
The evening news.

Speaker 8 (04:21):
However, when it's a police officer killing one of our children,
they changed the rules and they say, oh no, we
can't release the video because of the investigation. And it's
so hurtful, it's so painful to these black families all
across America where they played this game of delayed, delayed delay,
And can you imagine rodand Martin how hard it is

(04:44):
to bury a child, as mister William Peeples was saying,
but not to know what happened.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
To him when you're burying him.

Speaker 8 (04:53):
I mean, it's beyond insult on top of injury.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
And again, so they're saying that we've done a story
several types. So they're saying that all because it's an
ongoing investigation, we can't release the bodycam footage. But that
still makes no sense because first of all, who's saying
that is the district attorney? Is it the home with police?

(05:23):
Is the Alabama State Police? Who's actually leaning the investigation?

Speaker 7 (05:27):
It's the Alabama State Police.

Speaker 8 (05:29):
They call him a Leah Alabahama Law enforcement Agency. And
they do this continuously and systematically.

Speaker 7 (05:37):
They did it with EJ. Bradford.

Speaker 8 (05:39):
They didn't release that video to three years after EJ
was killed in Bessemer, Alabama. And so we know we're
fighting up against a machine here, a very well all
discriminatory machine that say, when black people get careed by
the police, we sweep it under the and so we're

(06:01):
not going to let this kid be swept under the rug.
I mean, he was the best of us Roland, the
best we had off of the future. Never been convicted
of a crime, It's never even been arrested. He was
a freshman at Alabama A and M. A double major.
He was majoring in computer information Systems and criminal justice.

(06:23):
Wanted to be a detective, wanted to go into law enforcement.
So how does this bright head with this bright future
end up dead? Well, for based on our preliminary findings,
and it's preliminary because we haven't got all the evidence,
but our medical examiner, who is well predential, been a

(06:45):
Medica examiner for over twenty five years based in Atlanta, Georgia,
said that based on her autopsy physical examination of the body,
that he died from a single gunshot wound to.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
His back, which obviously raises the question, you know what
happened here? Now again, the cops are saying that they're
supposedly a gun in the car. Well, the body cam
foot this should show that. So either it shows it or.

Speaker 8 (07:19):
Does it exactly exactly? Roland Martin, what is the reason
why they are so afraid to show the video?

Speaker 7 (07:30):
And I think it's what you said earlier, Roland.

Speaker 8 (07:33):
If it was something on the video that exonerated m
they would.

Speaker 7 (07:37):
Have been showed it.

Speaker 8 (07:38):
But if it's something that implicates him on the video,
then they have to try to figure out the narrative.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
And of course part of the issue that we have
here you're dealing with Alabama or Red state. They believe
in protecting cops, so it's not like you can look
to the attorney general of the governor for some assistance,
not at all.

Speaker 8 (08:03):
In fact, the attorney general is running for Senator Tommy
Tuberville is going to run for governor Alabama, so they
flip flopping. Everybody assumed that the attorney general was going
to run for governor. But then when Tuberville said he
wants to leave Washington to be governor of Alabama, then Marshall,

(08:25):
Steve Marshall is his name, attorney general say he's going
to run for the United States Senate seat.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
And they are big Trump.

Speaker 8 (08:33):
Supporters, both of them, and so Roland, I know you
know about Tuberville.

Speaker 7 (08:38):
So that's what we're dealing with.

Speaker 8 (08:40):
Tuberville and Alabama, who always protects the status quo and
always protects police officers.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Now your puluinary autopsy wasn't autopsy done by the official
autopsy middle exam. Has that been released?

Speaker 8 (09:02):
No, absolutely not paid an investigation, which just makes me
want to holler when you think of all of them.
They do all of this stuff that the taxpayers pay
them money to do, to have bodycam video or to
have dash cam video on the cars, to have medical
examiners who do autopsis.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
And then when we need to.

Speaker 8 (09:25):
Know most the evidence of what happened to this young
man being shot and killed, they all say, well, we
can't release anything into the completion of the investigation. And
you know, Roland Martin, because we've done done this too
many times, they will try to keep that investigation going
to next year or well after that, to everybody forget

(09:48):
that Jabbari Peoples existed except if mama and his daddy.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
And unfortunately, we're also dealing with a federal Department of
Justice that wants to grant immunity to cops. Donald Trump's
made it clear he wants one hundred percent community to cops.
So you can't even look to the federal dj for
any assistance.

Speaker 7 (10:12):
It's a shame before God.

Speaker 8 (10:13):
But I know that together we can get transparency and
get to the truth of what happened, and they're gonna
have to release this video. We just got to keep
standing up together and not letting them sweep this young man.
Jabbari People's under the rug because, like I said, Rowland,

(10:34):
he represented the best that we had offer for the future.
I mean, a and B student his freshman year Alabama,
was looking forward to starting in August his sophomore campaign,
and now he's six feet under the ground and his
family has still not been.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Given any answers.

Speaker 7 (10:54):
As to while their law Bidy College eh Son is dead.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Well unfortunately, unfortunately we talked about the South, We're still
dealing with frankly lynching of a black boys, black young
man and getting nothing in terms of justice from law enforcement.

Speaker 8 (11:21):
So thank you Roland for covering the matter because like
we have to do, we have to save ourselves. We
know the federal government isn't going to save us, and
we know the Civil Rights Department on the Department of
Justice has been obliberated, and so there's nothing to turn

(11:43):
to but us. And so I think all the activists,
I think the community leaders, the clergy, and I think
you Roland and media black on media who won't let
them sweep it under the rug because Jinbari Peters, I'm sorry, Jabari.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
People's life matter.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Well, absolutely, And the reality Ben is that you had
protesters there after y'all ended y'all news conference today, There
of course, were protesters in. I'm going to try to
pull it up here in a second. Who were, you know,
taking to the streets And that's the thing. Folks have

(12:29):
been taking to the streets consistently in home with Alabama demanding, demanding,
demanding this video be released.

Speaker 8 (12:40):
Yeah, we got to see it was a good kid, Roland,
Alabama and m students are marching and protesting too.

Speaker 7 (12:47):
And another thing, Roland, the bullet based.

Speaker 8 (12:50):
On our autopsy, there was no exit one, so that
meant the bullet was lodged in his body. We don't
even know what type of bullet it was. Because the
America is I'm going to them have the bullet and
the activist I love the young people they are, you know,
the popular sound boots on the ground. They say where
them fans at? They're starting to say where that bullet at?

(13:12):
Because we don't even know what kind of bullet it
was that kill Jabbari peoples.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
All right, then, big crop, We sly appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (13:24):
Thanks a lot, hey always, Roland, thank you, brother, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Thank you so very much. We bring my pet on
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ever say to keep your job in Friends of DC,
Michael m Hotep hosts African History That Works show out
of Detroit. We stop us stuff with you. The thing
here is we see this over and over and over again,

(13:51):
and the reality is you're not getting justice when you
talk about what's happening in the South, whether it's Alabama, Mississippi,
and so they always say, oh no, can't at least
to buy the cam footage, and they hold off on it.
But look, we've been down as road before. We know
without a doubt that if this actually exonerated the cops,
that video would have been out in twenty four hours.

Speaker 9 (14:14):
Oh yeah, well, or it might even been out sooner
than that. Actually, you know, we've done so many stories
on this, and you know, I keep hearing so many
folks saying they're sick and tired of being sick and tired.
We know how the game is played. We know you
know how they delay, we know how they continue to
sacrifice us. I was remembering the words of doctor King

(14:35):
one time he said, we can never be satisfied as
long as the black man is the victim of unspeakable
horrors of police brutality. Now lots of times people forget
that Doctor King had that other side to him where
he understood the dynamics that were going on in this country,
the United States of America. Last year we had eleven
hundred and I think it was seventy three people who

(14:56):
were killed by police. So we have a crisis that's
going on. Yeah, we have a crisis because we've got
too many guns in this country, but we also have
a crisis by people who are willing to pull the
trigger when there are other ways of handling situations, and
unfortunately I have not yet found it may exist, So
I want to just give space for that. You know,
in other parts of the country, you know, they have

(15:18):
different types of techniques to make sure that the first
thing that they do is not pull the trigger. But
unfortunately in the South, you know, we are an endangered
species there, to be quite honest with you, and that's
the way that we are viewed as inhuman, as something
that they can take the life and then deal with
the situations afterwards, because they know that there are forms

(15:41):
of protection in place for them, So we've got to
continue to put the pressure on. The Blackstar network is
incredibly important because we tell the stories. We make sure
people see the faces, you know, of what's actually going
on out there, where others, you know, will ignore it
or not give it the attention that it deserves. So
we just got to make sure that we speak up

(16:02):
for the dead because they don't have a voice.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Uh indeed indeed uh and uh, this is a video
here uh that took place. This was the protest that
was taking place after they released those preliminary uh findings.
This here of course, what's happening. You can Enduge p

(16:34):
D killed Jabari and Home one p D should be
held account and so I'm grateful for a mentor.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
For justice.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Home Prandy, I want to go to you. Uh. You know,
it's what it's so sad. It's another family. It is
a it is a fraternity's slash sorority that no family
wants to be a member of. And it just happens
over and over and over again, and it's just it continues.

(17:10):
And what people want, I mean, you hope there is
a system, there's a system here that actually that is
going to bring justice. Unfortunately, we have a system that
gives these cops the benefit of the doubt. What it
does is it just continues to you know, let them

(17:31):
off the hook. And again you got a Donald Trump
who wants to give them one hundred percent community, he said,
so they can do their jobs. So no accountability whatsoever.

Speaker 10 (17:48):
You know.

Speaker 11 (17:51):
Again, you know, I'm always rattled when we have these stories,
although we have had, you know, unfortunately so many, particularly
being a mother, and I think we have to be
honest about what this is.

Speaker 12 (18:01):
I mean, these to me are modern day lynchings. Police
officers are there to serve and protect not just some people,
but all people, us included, which it seems as if
they had forgotten. And they also have a duty to
find any safe and reasonable method before they use force.

(18:23):
That is what they're supposed to do. They are supposed
to bring calm to situations. They're supposed to again keep
us safe, not be our enemy. Not where we're worried
when a police officer is called. I mean, we have
such a strange relationship the black community with police officers
because of things like this. I don't know how you

(18:45):
justify shooting a young man in the back. I do
not know how they will claim that there was no
other alternative but to kill this young brother. My deepest
condolences to his family and friends, and I am happy
that they are being loud. Continue to be loud. Do

(19:08):
not allow to borrow people's death to be in vain.
Somebody must pay and be held accountable.

Speaker 13 (19:16):
Michael, Yeah, Rowland, you know, this is another tragedy, and
I think it's coming at a really terrible time because
it's under a Trump administration. As you just said, Donald
Trump ran on the platform of giving police one hundred
percent immunity. Okay, And you know, my heart goes out

(19:40):
to the family on this. And yeah, if there was
something that sculplatory in the video that cleared the police,
they would have released that video within twenty four hours.
The fact that this took place on June twenty third,
And if I heard Attorney Benjamin Crumb correctly, he said
the autopsy coming from the Medical Examiner's office that had

(20:04):
the results of that have not been released yet either.

Speaker 14 (20:06):
Am I correct on that?

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Right?

Speaker 7 (20:08):
Right? Right?

Speaker 1 (20:09):
That's what he said. That's what he said.

Speaker 13 (20:11):
Yeah, So once again that causes well, that was almost
close to a month ago and you still don't have
the autopsy. So this is what we're looking at under
a current Trump administration that just back in made twenty
first back out of the consent decrees with the Louisville,
Kentucky police Department behind the killing of Breonna Taylor, backed

(20:33):
out of the Minneapolis police department consent decree dealing with
the killing of George Floyd. Things of this nature. Now,
one thing I found very interesting in the video from
WVTM Channel thirteen, Reverend doctor Wayne Reverend doctor Wayne Harris
was speaking and he talked about the protests that were
coming from this, and one of the things he said

(20:54):
is that they were going to have economic boycotts and
target the business district and things like this to get justice.
So I would also be more I would also be
interested in finding out more information about that and how
that's progressing as well.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Well. He's certainly going to keep covering the story in
all the developments. Hold type one second, I got to
go to break, we come back. More rolling filture of
the Black Study Network, including Oh things got heat on
Capitol Hills, Congresswoman jas mc crockett went off and Land
of Wood when it came to you know what, all
y'all red states keep winding and complaining about Blue states.

(21:33):
But who do you think gives y'all money? Hmm? Wait,
did she we show you how she broke this thing down?
That more right here, rolling my unfiltered on the Black
Study Network.

Speaker 15 (21:46):
On the next Balance Life, we talk about how to
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Speaker 16 (21:54):
Along because oftentimes what we'll do is we'll accept what
the world says about us as as the truth and
how we see ourselves, which that could be completely contrary
to what the Word of God says about who you are.

Speaker 12 (22:07):
That's on the next A Balanced Life here on Blackstar Network.

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It can impact each and every one of us.

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This is the other side of Change, only on the
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Speaker 9 (22:40):
Hey, what's up with Sammy Roman?

Speaker 21 (22:42):
Is Jean Mrady exactly produce up the New Sherry Shepherd
Talk show.

Speaker 10 (22:45):
If me Sherry Sabra and you know what you're watching
Roland Martin.

Speaker 22 (22:48):
Unfiltered Texas Democrats in Congress are ripping down Trust's playing

(23:09):
to redraw their state's political map.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Next week, the Republican controlled Texas Legislature will consider a
new set of congressional maps during a special session, with
the Democrats in Austin currently out of power. Republicans having
super majority members of the state's congressional delegation anticipate that
the new districts will continue the historic pattern of violating
the Federal Voting Rights Act, which dilutes the votes of

(23:34):
racial minorities. Now Trump, he does this, says Jared Mandry.
He makes it clear he's won power.

Speaker 23 (23:42):
Colle homper complete redrawing of the congressional map, and just
a very simple redrawing.

Speaker 24 (23:47):
We pick up five seats, and where we have a
couple of other states where we'll pick up seats.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Also, No, that's what Jered Mannering is. So he wants
to redraw. He wants to redraw the seats so they'll
be able to have more power. Texas kurms Woman Jason
Crockett explains that this is the usual racism coming out
of the state of Texas.

Speaker 25 (24:12):
Happened if they cherry managers can talk on that same Yeah, So,
first of all, it hasn't quite been said clearly that
Texas has always been found to be intentionally discriminatory.

Speaker 15 (24:24):
And so I want y'all to understand the makeup of
my state. The state is a majority minority state, and
what this legislature historically has done is what they plan
to do again is to dilute the voices of people
of color in order to make sure that they can
get to where they're trying to go. We saw this

(24:45):
Department of Justice decided to put out a letter and
what did they do. We only have four seats that
are represented by black folk, where the vast majority of
the people that get to decide who they have represented
them are black. They decided to attack three of the
four seats that we have in the state. They decided
to go after a Latina. They are specifically deciding to

(25:08):
splinter the communities of common interest as well as just
blatantly say we are going to dilute minority voices. So
we know that the courts every since we've had a
Voting Rights Act have always found this state to be
intentionally discriminatory.

Speaker 19 (25:24):
That is what they are going to do.

Speaker 15 (25:26):
So I need people of color to understand that the
scheme of the Republicans has consistently been to make sure
that they mute our voices so that they can go
ahead and have an oversized say in this So I
fully anticipate that's exactly where they're going with this map.
It's the only way to do it. We didn't understand

(25:46):
how we got to the map that they gave us
last time, because that state was grown by ninety five
percent people of color. They went out of their way
to make sure that we got zero new seats for
people of color. So that's exactly what they're going to
do this time.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Well, this here was a tweet from California Governor Gavin
Newsom when Jake Sherman posted President Donald Trump told Texas
Republicans on a call this morning that the GOP will
seat to get five new red seats in the mid
decade Reditional Team effort in Texas. Gavin Newsom said, two
can play that game. He later posted this tweet here,

(26:26):
let me find it right here to this video. He
goes there are currently nine Republicans in a California Congression delegation.
Just thought folks might like to know that fun fact.
I mean, here's the whole deal here, Michael payback. I'm sorry.
If they pull that crap in Texas, Democrats in Maryland, Illinois, California,

(26:51):
New York should do the same.

Speaker 13 (26:55):
Absolutely in California. Yeah, they should do the same. Going
to have a devastating impact in California. All So, I
saw Jasmin Crockett talk about this on the weekend on
MSNBC as well. I know we talked about it some
last week when you had Jasmin Crockett on also Roland. So, yeah,

(27:16):
this is good old fashioned white supremist Jerry manner. Donald
Trump can try to deny it, just like he denied
knowing about Project twenty twenty five, just like he denied
reading Mind com by Adolf Hitler. He can deny it
all he wants to, but the proof is in their actions.

Speaker 14 (27:31):
The proof is in the pudding.

Speaker 13 (27:33):
And according to reporting from outlets like New York Times,
and we talked about this last week, you know, Trump
called Governor Greg Abbott asking him to redraw the district lines,
and you know they're targeting five districts, and they're trying
to eliminate people like Jasmin Crockett. So we need to
as African Americans, we need to see these moves being made.

(27:54):
They're playing right in front of our face. So this
is why we have to turn out with our numbers in.

Speaker 7 (27:59):
Both these people.

Speaker 13 (28:00):
Vote these Republicans out of office and stop them. Stop
what they're trying to do to us.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
The Randy one of the Cannons who was running for
the eighteenth Congressionals race, that's to replace the late Sevester Turner,
who replaced the late she was congresome Sheila Jackson Lee.
This is what he actually posted. He said, Blue States
must jerry manner Republicans the same way they're doing us.
Blue states must ditch quote independent redistricting committees for now

(28:30):
to force Republicans into a national jerry mandering band. They
were created with good intentions, but times are different. Fight
fire with fire is right. I believe in independent you
know committets doing this. They tried to the voters in
Ohio actually passed that. They passed. Republicans said we're gonna

(28:54):
we're not gonna listen to you. It's trying to say
a thing in Michigan. So even when the win all
other voters, when they do it, Republicans still say, we
don't give a damn because they want power. Democrats had
better understand what's going on here, and.

Speaker 26 (29:10):
They better understand that we are at war and we.

Speaker 12 (29:13):
Keep trying to play by the rules when the Republicans
don't play by the rules and change the rules and
do anything to win. And so we need this is
a mud fight. This is a mud fight, and so
we do need to do to them what they are
doing to us. It's the only way we have a chance.
And we can't continue to say we're going to do

(29:35):
it the proper way or the way that it should
be done. We have to fight fire, as he.

Speaker 9 (29:40):
Said, with fire.

Speaker 12 (29:42):
We need to ensure that our voices are being heard,
because they're doing everything in their power to ensure that
they aren't.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
You know the thing that trips me here, I just
sit here and and and look at uh these decisions,
uh and and look at how you know how Republicans
literally just say we don't care. There was a voter

(30:15):
approved initiative in Utah. They're like, we don't care. We
just saw the voters in Missouri pass a voter approve.
Republicans like, yeah, when it came to when it came
to sick leave, they came to back, They're like, yeah,
we don't care, and so they don't. And so this
is where I have been saying for the longest. Democrats

(30:37):
are trying to play a game Ustafa, that is that
is operating. They're using old rules where.

Speaker 27 (30:45):
The opposition is saying, I'm sorry, what rules?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
We don't care, and then when they don't like it,
they'll cry.

Speaker 27 (30:53):
Fout's And then all that's why you can say, no, no,
we're going to break your backs, We're going to complete
me go after you.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
We're not playing nice. Democrats have got to play a
ruthless game because they have a ruthless opponent. No, I agree.

Speaker 9 (31:15):
I mean, here's the reality of the situation, right, So
Republicans will punk Democrats until Democrats get tired of it.
It's like the kid on the playground, who you know,
the bully comes up to you and takes your lunch
money and continues to jack you up every day, and
until you decide you're going to fight back, they're going
to continue to do it. So you know, when I
see Jasmine and others actually speaking out in a very

(31:37):
effective way and really putting and highlighting, you know, not
just the injustices that are going on. But you don't
have to take it. You know, you have to ask
the question, why are more people actually doing that? You know,
why don't we actually let people know that when they
talk about fiscal responsibility that as we stalk talked about earlier,
you know, it's the blue states are the ones who
are subsidizing the red states. So until you stop allowing

(32:01):
someone to just run all over you and do what's
necessary and stop operating from an antiquated playbook, you know
that from thirty or forty years ago, when there used
to be some humility, when there used to be some
folks who are trying to you know, govern through bipartisan
sets of actions. You know, you got to have a
twenty first century playbook now, and you've got to understand

(32:24):
who these folks are and what there was the lens
that they're actually willing to go to to not only
hold onto power, but also to hold on the wealth
and to you know, continue to strip away any opportunity
for fairness to be a part of the process. So
I'm glad that there are some folks who are starting
to stand up. I hope more people do it. I
do hope sometime in the future that we get back

(32:45):
to actually governing in a way that makes sense. But
until we get there, you know, we got to do
what you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
And this is from punch Bowl News or how Republicans
This is June twenty twenty five, how ruleless to be
in redistricting and so what does it say? It said
that the current GOP drawing map has ten Republicans and
five Democrats. Ohio's unusual redistricting laws mandate a redraw ahead

(33:15):
of twenty twenty six because the current map passed without
bipartisan support in the twenty twenty two cycle. The Ohio
Supreme Court reign in the GOP legislature. But what do
we always say when it comes to when it comes
to Supreme Court? Racis says, now Republicans controlled all but

(33:36):
one seat on Ohio's top court, and the question is
whether they'll try to draw a map that could elect
twelve or thirteen Republicans. The two Democrats on the chopping bloc,
Representative Marcy Captor in the Northwest Ohio and CBC member
Amelia Sykes, and the Akron based thirteen thirteenth District. And

(33:58):
so they're looking to do this, folks, not just in Texas,
but Ohio as well. Remember Democrats only to pick up
five seats to control the House. Right down North Carolina,
there used to be a ten to three Republican majority.
Then when Democrats controlled the Supreme Court, it went to
seven to seven. That's those four seats Republican control. And

(34:19):
guess what now is back to ten three. So that's
why they're trying to redraw the lines because they are
deafly afraid that they could lose anywhere from eight to
ten seats next year, thus giving the House controlled to
the Democrats. And they don't want to do that. And
so we'll be watching what happens in all of these states.
Going to a break, we come back, we're gonna talk
about the mayor of Gary, Indiana. What is the impact

(34:41):
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Speaker 1 (36:22):
Hello, we're the Credit Fixes. I'm doctor Bernard Hodges and
I'm doctor Terrence Ferguson, and you're tuning in to Roland
Martin unfilchy follows Gary, Indiana, home to the largest steel
mill in the nation. The mayor of that city, Eddie Melton,

(36:45):
is excited about a new fourteen billion dollar partnership between
US Steel and Japan's Nipping Steel. The steel is expecting
to create seventy thousand jobs nation, why significantly impacting this
predominantly African American city. Mayor Melton joins us right now,
mey or how you doing? I can't hear the mayor, folks,

(37:08):
he's on mute.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
All right, there we go.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
There we go. Doing great. So right now in terms
of jobs in your city, how many jobs does this
meal provide right now?

Speaker 29 (37:24):
Right now, we're about four thousand jobs. And as you
know the downside of the steel industry, at one point
you have still had nearly thirty thousand jobs in the
city of Geary alone. So it has been a tremendous
downturn over the last I would say forty to fifty years.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
And so as a result, what type of expansion are
you expecting to take place with this deal?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Right?

Speaker 29 (37:52):
Well, to get some context to your listening audience, we
know that the city Geary was founded by the founders
of you as Steel, Andrew Carnegie, elber Ah Gary, and
so many others that helped build the stell.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Industries around the United States.

Speaker 29 (38:08):
So that's the reason why the city of Gary was established.
When that occurred, over the next one hundred and twenty
years or more, the growth of.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
This city had took place.

Speaker 7 (38:19):
And we know during.

Speaker 29 (38:20):
The movement of the Black migration, we have blacks from
the South that migrated here to work and look for
that American dream. When in terms of jobs, in terms
of successful for their family, I would say, right after
my mentor, Mayor Richard Gordon Hatcher, he passed, there was

(38:42):
an opportunity for us to really bring back what he
helped to get established in the city. And that's that pride,
thatt that determination. So we worked very intently to rebuild
their relationship with us. Steel that relationship had been stretched
number of decades. I was skeptical on this deal, like

(39:03):
many people around the country, to have a Japanese company
to purchase an iconic American company. But after further vetting
and working with Congressional Black Caucus members like congish Woman
Mexicane Waters and Congressman Penny Thompson, they both helped me
as we kind of figure out how do we put
this the city of Geary in the best position if

(39:24):
this deal were to go through.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
And so yeah, I mean, obviously it was a whole
lot of back and forth, a lot of back and
forth in terms of what's going to happen next, and
so that wasting in terms of where the merger get approved.
Then that was that was just talk about there was
some kind of special provision that Trump would oversee it,
and it was all sort of stuff like that. But

(39:49):
but so we talked. So we talked about seven thousand
jobs nationwide. Where would the bulk of those jobs be
or would they be in different parts of the country.

Speaker 29 (39:58):
Right so right now we're looking at it around Pennsylvania,
We're looking at Indiana and Alabama, so some of those
states will definitely see aligned share of those jobs. Let
me go back to your original question. I don't think
I kind of miss a portion of that. I want
to make sure that's answered. In the city of Gary,
blast furnace number fourteen is one of the US Steel's

(40:18):
largest still producing blast funers right here in the city
of Gary, and that blast furnace will be religned and
the additional three other blast furnaces will be refurbished. That
means there will be an increase of steel production for
many years to come. Every time a blast furnace is religned,
it gives it another thirty to forty years of life.

(40:40):
So we're talking about another thousand jobs potentially per blast
furnace right now. I'm in discussions with US Steel, the
current leadership and the leadership in the Pond Steel as
they continue to work on their merger of partnership, shall
I say, in figuring out what specific implications will that
be on the hiring aspect, working with our school corporation

(41:01):
as well as our local universities to make sure the
workforce development and the training pieces are in place to
ensure that local residents have a priority in the placement
of those jobs.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Questions from the panel. Let's see here, Randy, you first,
when we.

Speaker 12 (41:22):
Say that we're going to you know, come back and
hopefully get the steel mill industry back up, because there's
been what a huge decline, like fifty eight percent decline.
Will they put in place some changes to ensure that,
you know, the process is more environmentally friendly and also
to protect the people who work in these mails because

(41:42):
I know there's been a lot of health concerns about
people who had long careers.

Speaker 29 (41:47):
No absolutely for the city gearing that has been a tremendous,
tremendous concern. Myself that grew up in the city, grew
up with asthma, and so many others that live in
a footprint of the steel production.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Process, says myself.

Speaker 29 (42:01):
In our environmental advocates, we met with NAPON early in
these negotiations to ensure that the.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Technology that they use in their Japanese still making.

Speaker 29 (42:09):
Process will also be converted over here in the American process.
The pond is ranked number four in the world in
terms of steel production. US steel has dropped to number
twenty four, twenty fourth in the world. However, the still
making process in the United States has been not as
clean as the Japanese process, so the technology and the

(42:33):
protections around their intellectual brand in terms of bringing that
here is part of that conversation and hopes it will
be a cleaner process in the still making process.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Thank you much, Stapfa.

Speaker 9 (42:50):
Well, mayor, thank you for answering that question that Randy
ask you. You know, that's incredibly important. Part of my
family actually worked in the steel mills in Pittsburgh, you know,
years and years and years years ago. I'm curious about
the role that unions are playing and how you see
them being strengthened. We know that the current administration has
not necessarily been friendly to unions, so I'm interested in

(43:13):
how you're going to play a role and make sure
that we change that dynamic.

Speaker 29 (43:17):
No, absolutely, well, I can't speak for the administration, right
I'll speak for myself, the son of a steel worker,
someone that has been a part of the steel making
process my entire life. My father worked for EJ and E.
Railroad at the kirkyard, at the steel mills. So it
is extremely important that we support our organized labor. The
one thing I will say, majority of the frontline workers,

(43:40):
the union workers, supported this deal, especially those in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
If you go back and look at some of.

Speaker 29 (43:45):
The commentary and the negotiation process. Now union leadership with
not so much. I think that was more of a
political decision on a more national level, but rank and file,
that was something important to myself my team that the
union contract will be honored. We know that they'll be
entering into negotiations for the next contract in twenty twenty six.

(44:08):
We also advocated, myself and other mayors of Pennsylvania advocated
for a signing bonus for these individuals once this deal
has been done, and I believe that has already taken
place thus far. So I agree making sure that organized
labor is protected, making sure that there was no plant
closures in this process and moving forward, and also ensuring

(44:30):
that production doesn't shift from cities like Gary, like Pennsylvania
to non union states. I believe Arkansas is one of
their non union states where they and that was something
that was very important to us in the negotiating process.

Speaker 13 (44:52):
Michael, Governor Melton, I mean, I'm sorry, Mayor Melton, predicting
ain't something for you, but I was wondering, with this
potential investment coming, this potential expansion, has there been any
talks about contracts with the plans contracts with the companies,

(45:14):
et cetera.

Speaker 14 (45:15):
Especially for African American owned businesses.

Speaker 13 (45:17):
We know that contracts with corporations is one of the
ways that we're able to scale our businesses, whether it's
janitorial services, transportation, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Any talks about that absolutely.

Speaker 29 (45:28):
Actually, the meeting that we had with Congresswoman Maxine Waters
and Congress Benny Thompson was that specific request, and I
gave a Liddany a long list of things that we
thought was a priority for the City of Geary.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
That was ensuring that local hiring was a priority.

Speaker 29 (45:44):
Out of the four thousand Yes employees that I mentioned
to Roland earlier in this segment, they claimed that ten
percent of those live in Geary.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Now I can't verify.

Speaker 29 (45:56):
That, but in this new process, we're going to make
sure that we can kind of have a check some
balance to ensure that local hiring is or preference in
the priority for them.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
But when it comes down to.

Speaker 29 (46:06):
The subcontractors, in the kind of the ancillary providers to
the still making process, that's something that we are going
to be very intentional on working with them to make
those introductions. Be it if it's a construction, be it
if it's in the haul and a waste and disposal
of things of that nature. That's something that we are
definitely prioritizing. All right, thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Now, let me say this right Dan La Mayor, Yeah,
go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 29 (46:33):
I want to share this. This being a private deal,
one of the things we had to do. I had
to inject myself in this process because no one asked
me whether I supported this deal or not.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I had to create a seat at the table. The
City of Gary allowed.

Speaker 29 (46:49):
Well, I will see the State of Indiana, and going
back to a previous segment, I would state senator for
two terms, and we've seen jerry mandering at his finess
in this state of Indiana. The State of Indiana twenty
years ago allowed us still to self assess their property taxes.
We had one hundred and twenty million WOW budget in
the City of Gear and in the year that budget

(47:12):
was cutting half. So that was a divestment in our infrastructure,
in our police and fire and so many other areas.
So we've seen a lot of deterioration in these areas.
But I'm happy to say it right now we're turning
that corner. We have a fifty percent reduction on homicide race.
A lot of folks say, Gary Murdray Capital, that's no
longer that narrative. So I appreciate you rolling for allow

(47:33):
me to come on to tell that new story of
the investment of the fourteen billion, three billion will be
invested specifically in gear.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
All right then, well, again, as somebody who's covered city government,
I've seen how that looks. And a lot of people
have no understanding the type of tax breaks and incentives
that states a lot, especially Republicans, give these folks, but
then they complained about stuff being funded. And a lot
of residents don't understand that a lot of companies are

(48:05):
not paying their fair share of taxes because they've been
giving a lot of these tax breaks.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Oh, absolutely absolutely, but we own it.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
All right then, all right, Mary moultinm we appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Thanks you lot, gluck pease, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
All right, thank you very much. All right, folks, I
gotta go to break. We come back. More we want
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Among other things, he played a major role in creating
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Speaker 1 (51:25):
All right about the only one who's thoroughly enjoying this
Maga meltdown over Jeffrey Epstein. Oh my god, these folks
are losing their minds. So Donald Trump, this is like, yo,
y'all need to stop. In fact, Charlie, he called Charlie Kirk,
who it tells you right now, Charlie Kirk is nothing
but an imp of Donald Trump. So he called him

(51:45):
and was like, YO, I need you stop talking about this, Okay,
I need you to stop bringing up Jeffrey Epstein. But
Maga's not doing it, and in fact, like that, this
is what's so hilarious. Okay, this is literally a tweet
that Donald Trump sent out right here, so stop talking

(52:07):
about Epstein. But then somebody edited this tweet from two
years ago of his own son saying, show us all
the Epstein client lists, Now, why would anyone protect those comebacks?
Ask yourselves this question daily and the answers become very apparent.
This has been hilarious, y'all as folk been pulling up
old comments. You've got Dan Bongino supposedly threatening to quit

(52:31):
if the files were not released, paying bondies Like y'all,
there's nothing there, so what's the big deal? And Trump
was like, it's not gonna be released. In fact, I
love this mashup right here of maga folks losing their minds.
This is before Trump was inaugurated when it came to
the issue of Epstein. Listen, please do not let that

(52:54):
story go.

Speaker 14 (52:55):
Who has Jeffrey Epstein's.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Black book Black Book feel? But who that is that?
I mean, that's under.

Speaker 9 (53:04):
Direct control of the director of the FBI.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
What the hell of the House Republicans doing they have
the majority. You can't get the list.

Speaker 14 (53:13):
Put on your big.

Speaker 9 (53:14):
Boy pants and let us know who the pedophiles are.

Speaker 18 (53:17):
Would you declassify the Epstein files?

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Yeah, yeah, I would.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
I guess I would.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
I think that less so because you know, you don't
know if you don't want to affect people's.

Speaker 29 (53:27):
Lives of its phony stuff in there, because there's a
lot of phony stuff with that whole world.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
But I think I would.

Speaker 31 (53:33):
This isn't about Epstein or nine to eleven or.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
JFK or RFK. It is, but it isn't. It's about
a bigger thing. If you're lying about that, you're lying
about everything.

Speaker 32 (53:43):
Who's on the Epstein tapes, folks, who's.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
On those tapes? Who's in those black books? Why have
they been hiding it? And this is something Donald Trump
has talked about.

Speaker 33 (53:54):
The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Well, that really happened.

Speaker 34 (54:00):
It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's
been a directive by President Trump. Everything's going to come
out to the public. The public has a right to know.
Americans have a right to know.

Speaker 14 (54:12):
You know, you've urged people to move on.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Oh my god, these people have been tripping. Uh in
in fact, hold on, hold on, I gotta play this
with him. Check this out here, here's Donald Trump being
asked about it. Give one second. I gotta play this one, y'all,
because this one, this one was too much. Okay, here
we go. All right, let me get this a cue up, y'all.

Speaker 35 (54:37):
Okay, I know you've urged people to move on, but
I'm curious, why do you think your supporters in particular
have been so interested in the Epstein story and so
upset about how it's been handled.

Speaker 24 (54:49):
Why do you think that is why they would be
so interesting that he's dead for a long time, he
was never a big factor returns of life. I don't
understand what the interest or what the fascination is. I
really don't have the credible information has been given. Don't
forget we went through years if the moola were hunt

(55:10):
and all of the different things to steal dossier which
was all fake. All that information was fake. But I
don't understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of
interest to anybody. It's pretty boring stuff.

Speaker 22 (55:24):
It's shorted, but it's boring, and I don't understand why
it keeps going.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
I think both really only pretty bad people and godly
fake us want to keep something like this like that gaunt.

Speaker 24 (55:36):
But incredible information. Let them give it. Anything that's credible,
I would say, let them have it.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
I mean, if it's no big deal, I don't understand
why y'all freaking out by it. In fact, I saw
in fact Mike Johnson. Now he's pissed them all because
Mike Johnson's like, yeah, go to release this here, you
know what. And of course you got speaker Hackeen Jeffries

(56:04):
He's like, you know what, I mean, what the hell?
You know what? We might as well just see what
they want to do. Here is a Democratic leader, Jeffrey speaking.

Speaker 36 (56:13):
Of Democrats, didn't put the Jeffrey Epstein thing into the
public domain. This was a conspiracy that Donald Trump, Pambondi,
and these MAGA extremists have been fanning the flames of
for the last several years, and now the chickens are
coming home to roost. The American people deserve to know

(56:34):
the truth. What, if anything, is the Trump administration and
the Department of Justice hiding. What are you hiding? If
you're not hiding anything, prove that to the American people.
And if you are trying to hide something, as many
of Donald Trump's MAGA supporters apparently believe, then the Congress

(57:00):
actually work hard to try to uncover the truth for
the American people. There are only two things that are
possible here. Option one, Donald Trump, Pambondy and the MAGA
extremists intentionally lied to the American people for years about

(57:24):
the Jeffrey Epstein situation.

Speaker 14 (57:26):
That's option one.

Speaker 36 (57:29):
Option two is that in fact, there is reason for
the American people to be concerned as it relates to
what information has not been released that could be damaging
to the Trump administration and the friends and family of

(57:51):
the Trump administration. And they're billionaire, corrupt supporters, and so
they're actively engaging in the cover up. Option one, they
lied for years. Option two, they're engaging in a cover up.
At this point, it seems reasonable that can only be
one of the two things. And so it's Congress's responsibility

(58:18):
in a bipartisan way to ask the questions and try
to get answers on behalf of the American people.

Speaker 19 (58:30):
I can't hear him.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
What happened today? The House voted and all the Republicans
were like, nah, way, ain't nobody to release these files.
I'm getting a kick out of all of this. But
what what's crazy to me is is to literally watch

(58:53):
the meltout and and and he's tried, he's mad the
White House. Is they able to stop with y'all? Can
we move on? They're trying to get magg to stop.
But guess what. They whipped those folks into a frenzy
because they were like, yo, Bill Clinton's on that list,

(59:13):
but Donald Trump his phone number was in Epstein's black book,
and they got to own up to it.

Speaker 27 (59:20):
So their own side is now eating them. They don't
know how to stop it.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
I fight all of this to be absolutely delightful.

Speaker 9 (59:30):
There's a lot of cannibalism going on right now on
that side of the equation. People should care. Here's why
people should care, because we're talking about sex trafficking and
trying to understand who all was a part of that.
Everybody or not everybody, but a whole lot of people
cared when it was talking about Puffy or Pete Diddy,
you know, in relationship to that. So why should we

(59:50):
not also care as equally about this type of a
situation and let the chips fall where they may, no
matter whom it is that's on that list. Folks need
to know. You need to know to make sure one
that they're brought to justice. You need to know in case,
you know, one of your kids or somebody else's hanging
out around them or near them. So sex trafficking is

(01:00:11):
a very serious thing. And we know how many women
and girls end up disappearing or end up getting pulled
into that. So yeah, we need to know, and yeah,
MAGA should care and everybody else should care because we
should be making sure that we are protecting women and
girls in our country.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Well, just so folks know, I mean, that was a
literal vote. This is a tweet right here. Justin. Republicans
in the House Rules Committee killed an Epstein measure put
forward by Representative Roe Connor that would have forced the
Department of Justice to release the Jeffrey Epstein files. The
vote was five to seven, with Reverend Ralph Northam being
the only Republican committee member to vote in favor of

(01:00:55):
the measure. This here is a Democratic remember a McGovern
talking about it, and I mean, to me, he's only
making sense.

Speaker 33 (01:01:08):
I moved the Committee Making Order Amendment number fifty to
HR three six three three, offered by Representative Khanna, which
would require the Attorney General to preserve and release any
records related to Jeffrey Epstein Madam Chair. On February twenty first,
twenty twenty five, President Trump's own Attorney General, Pam Bondy,
sat on Fox News the Epstein client list was sitting

(01:01:31):
on her desk quote right now to review end quote.
Cash Patel, Trump's FBI director, said during his confirmation hearing,
that he would do everything everything, if confirmed, to make
sure the American people knew quote the full weight of
what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
End quote.

Speaker 33 (01:01:47):
Patel, who now leads the FBI, said on the Benny
Johnson Show that the FBI was hiding the Epstein client list.
Donald Trump Junior, the president's own son, tweeted out, I
quote show us all the Epstein client list right now.
Why would anyone protect those scumbags? Ask yourselves this question,
and then the answer becomes very apparent.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
End quote, and now forgive me.

Speaker 33 (01:02:11):
But suddenly these same people are telling us there's nothing
to see here. Trump is posting that we should all
just move on. Well, I want to know what the
hell is in these files, and I think we all
want to know why Trump is suddenly changing his tune
and is so desperate to sweep this.

Speaker 7 (01:02:27):
Under the rug.

Speaker 33 (01:02:28):
But you know what, this also gets at his credibility.
This is about trust. Republicans said, trust us, vote for us,
and we will release these files. And here we are.
They are backtracking. They said they aren't going to cut medicaid,
and they did.

Speaker 7 (01:02:43):
They said they.

Speaker 33 (01:02:44):
Wouldn't add to the deficit and debt. They exploded both.
They said that they stand with law enforcement. They won't
even hang a plaque honoring officers for their heroism on
January sixth.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
They talk about law and.

Speaker 33 (01:02:56):
Order and can't even condemn the president for partying the
people who finally attacked the Capitol building. So please forgive
me if I don't believe a word of any of it.
This isn't about got your politics, It's about credibility.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
So here's the whole thing for me. There's the whole
thing for me, right here is out looking at all
of this, I mean, I don't get it, Randy, just
release it.

Speaker 24 (01:03:22):
You know.

Speaker 26 (01:03:25):
What I wonder is what's bottom for them?

Speaker 12 (01:03:27):
I mean, we've always known that one Epstein and Trump
were friends.

Speaker 14 (01:03:31):
We've always known.

Speaker 12 (01:03:32):
That Trump has had been found guilty of, you know,
abusing women and lying on the women. So do the
Republican women, No, No, no.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
No, no, no no no girls no girls girls girls
right girl underage girls not women. Girl and got a
sweetheart deal. Got a sweetheart deal where he stayed where
Trump's Department of Labor secretary the first time would the
prosecutor got a sweetheart deal where he could be out
of jail sixteen hours a day and he would just

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go into jail to sleep overnight.

Speaker 12 (01:04:10):
So so, but that's what I'm saying. What is their
bottom of all of a sudden? They do they have
a moral code? Do they care about what this felon,
convicted felon has done all of a sudden, I mean,
what is their bottom? And it's obvious that there's a
cover up going on. I mean they've said, we have
the black book, we have this client list, and now
all of a sudden it's disappeared suddenly.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
I mean, to be no, they held the news conference
holding up binders, They held a news conference holding up
Epstein binders, and in fact, I love, okay, okay, now
watch this here, watch this. I want people to see.
Watch how this is? Bill O'Reilly on News Nation, on
Leland Biddert Show, Leland Vidder Conservative on News Nation. I mean,

(01:04:55):
and even vider. You could tell about like a lightning
boat hit him because he had the fact check. As
Bill O'Riley tried to blame this on Biden, Harris, watch this.

Speaker 37 (01:05:08):
The Biden administration had exactly the same thing the Trump
administration has on Epstein, exactly because Epstein was convicted during
the Biden administrations. Not one time did that came Jeffrey
call for any exposition of what the Biden Justice department knew.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Not once.

Speaker 37 (01:05:29):
So this guy's a top phony. Okay, he's a political player.
He doesn't care about the truth.

Speaker 38 (01:05:35):
He doesn't care Bill hold On, Bill hold On, you
said Epstein was convicted during the Biden administration. Epstein committed
suicide during the Trump administration.

Speaker 14 (01:05:48):
Yes, so how is he convicted?

Speaker 37 (01:05:50):
How he was convicted into I believe, Okay, under Merrick
Garland's Justice department.

Speaker 7 (01:05:57):
That could be am I wrong or that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
I don't think so.

Speaker 37 (01:06:03):
And then he was incarcerated and then he committed suicide. Okay,
the suicide thing is bull with you.

Speaker 38 (01:06:13):
I think this is important, Bill, I think this is important.
He was arrested in twenty nineteen, and he committed suicide
in twenty nineteen. He died August tenth of twenty nineteen.
So the Biden administration was not involved in a conviction
or a trial of him. They were in the of
his madam of Elaine Mantill.

Speaker 37 (01:06:33):
And that's that's a good point of clarification. But he
was arrested and indicted under Merrick Garland.

Speaker 38 (01:06:40):
No under Trump, who had all under Trump under Epstein
was arrested, indicted and committed suicide under Trump in twenty nineteen.
Trump was president. Merrick Garland was not the attorney general.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Okay, Okay, I'm a dumb ass. I mean, Michael, he
said there. His entire point was blown up because you're
an idiot, Bill O'Reilly.

Speaker 13 (01:07:15):
Exactly, Bill, and Bill o'reidy's full of shit too. Let's
just put it out there, okay, And people talk about
Joe Biden and his memory. I'll take Joe Biden any
day over Bill O'Reilly, all right.

Speaker 24 (01:07:27):
Yes.

Speaker 13 (01:07:28):
August tenth, twenty nineteen, Jeffrey Epstein died in federal custody. Okay,
Donald Trump was president, all right. So all the people
who talked about the Biden crime family and represent the
Joe comer, and you have these Biden investigations that Republicans

(01:07:48):
are launching, So you don't want to release all of
the evidence, all of the files, all the information did
with Jeffrey Epstein. I remember when Pam Bondy had had
the influencers there and podcasters, and they gave them binders
and holding up binders. I'm wondering, Okay, what's in the binders? Okay,
they need to bring that up. Uh now and grim

(01:08:10):
her Okay, what was in those binders that.

Speaker 7 (01:08:12):
You gave people?

Speaker 13 (01:08:13):
But you know, Roland, I think this comes down to
what Michael Steele said a couple of nights ago, or
maybe last night on MSNBC. He said, when Donald Trump
used to hang out with Jeffrey Epstein and they were friends,
Donald Trump was a Democrat. Now you know when when
when they thought that? When when when maga when Republicans

(01:08:35):
thought it was just a bunch of Democrats on the list,
on the files or whatever they wanted it. Now that
the top, the former top Democrat is in the White
House now all of a sudden.

Speaker 14 (01:08:47):
It's a problem.

Speaker 13 (01:08:48):
And I agree with how King jeffreyes release all of
it now, tell the truth, cleanse your soul if you
got if you have one left, release all of it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:56):
So and these and these.

Speaker 13 (01:08:57):
Are people man who made money off off of these
conspiracy theories cast for tail Or on various pony here
and Bongino.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
They all got.

Speaker 13 (01:09:06):
Paid a lout of money pushing this not they all
got paid pimping this and lying to Maga.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
And now the people who they fed the last two.

Speaker 14 (01:09:16):
Are turning on them.

Speaker 13 (01:09:17):
I'm like, hey, like like the club banger from the
year two thousand, my DJ godfather said, let them holds fight,
let them fight, let them fight this out.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
I'm just gonna sit here and enjoy these fools just
smacking each other. All right, y'all going to break We
come back. We're gonna talk about what's happening here, Say
Augustin's University, more drama with his in Battle University. They
lost their accreditation appeal, they got money problems. Why the
hell won't this board of trustees seat a duly elected

(01:09:53):
representative of the alumni. They got something to hide. We'll
talk to that representative next right here on rolland Martin
Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network.

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Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
It's up, y'all. Devon Franklin, it is always a pleasure
to be in the house. You are watching Roland Martin unfiltered.
Stay right now, All right, y'all. We have been covering
the Saint Gustine's University just this is like a soap opera,

(01:10:51):
and it's a sad soap opera. For quite some time,
just one thing after another. We've been sitting here, you know,
we did a hall down there. They they have students
on the campus. They got financial problems, I mean just
over and over and over again, accreditation issues, you name it.
And one of the things that makes no sense deals

(01:11:13):
with the seating of you know, the love dot rector. Now.
Steve Williams May twenty twenty four, y'all, that's a year ago,
was elected as a National Alumni Association representative to the
Saint Augustin's Board of Trustees. He was sworn in on
June twenty six, twenty twenty four, but as yet to
assume his position. In October, the board, led by Chair

(01:11:33):
Brian Boulware, voting U nationally not to ratify William's role
for which he was elected. They signed his involvement in
a lawsuit aim at removing the board as the reason
for their decision, but he was still elected by the alumni.
William Jones us right now to discuss the petition to

(01:11:54):
get them seated at Sat. Augustin's University's Alumni Trustees. So again, Steve,
this is real sim The alumni chose.

Speaker 39 (01:12:01):
You, right, absolutely, absolutely absolutely so.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
The alumni, the alumni chose you, and they literally have
an alumni seat on the board. And Brian Bulwer said,
nah na, nah, we ain't sitting you.

Speaker 39 (01:12:19):
Yeah, And basically that's what he's been saying the entire time.
And to give you give you a real interesting timeline,
I was, like you said, I was elected in May
twenty twenty four, sworn in June twenty sixth email was
sent to Brian boot where actually sent to the President,
Marcus Burgess, which is the proper channel. He in turn

(01:12:44):
sent that email from the national Alumni president directly to
the entire board on July July seventh. To be exact,
we did not get a response until on my birthday,
September fourth, say, this is the first time he's received it.
Then we did not get another response on the twenty

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fifth of September. We did not get a response until
October eighth, and that's when I my name was added
to the lawsuit because I started, you know, getting a
little upset, and I added my name to the lawsuit,
the suit from my seat, because I knew this was
more than just a time lag.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Right, So you added your name to the lawsuit to
get your seat, and he said, nah, you ain't gonna
be seated because you agrenating the lawsuit. You agnated the
lawsuit because you weren't.

Speaker 39 (01:13:38):
Seated exactly exactly. And not only that, they had plenty
of time. They knew days after I was sworn in
by the nasal lumnick.

Speaker 14 (01:13:50):
They knew.

Speaker 39 (01:13:52):
He even knew when I was running. He knew it.
So basically, what it seems like is that what are
you what? What are you afraid of?

Speaker 37 (01:14:03):
You know?

Speaker 14 (01:14:03):
It's it's it's basically, it's it's pure and simple.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Right.

Speaker 39 (01:14:07):
If I would have been seated the lawsuit would have
went for We lost the our initial lawsuit on technicality,
which is standing because nobody had you know, there was
not an official seated board, a trustee member on the board,
so I wasn't officially seated, so I could not bring

(01:14:28):
a lawsuit forward.

Speaker 14 (01:14:29):
That is the North Carolina statue.

Speaker 39 (01:14:31):
Nevertheless, they knew once I was seated that lawsuit would
have preceded, and all of the mouth, seas ands and
things of nature in our case file would have been
shown open in court.

Speaker 14 (01:14:45):
And still to this day can be.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Yeah what yeah, so so. So what this tells me,
what this tells me is that and this is what
this tells me is that the chairman, Brian Bullwear and
the other board members, the last they want is somebody
knew coming on, who has access to documents and who

(01:15:07):
can demand transparency.

Speaker 14 (01:15:09):
Absolutely, they ran on. And this is funny.

Speaker 39 (01:15:14):
Chairman Bullwear ran on transparency and things of that nature,
and he's been opposite of everything he's ran on. First
and foremost, he met with us last night alumni. This
is the first time since he's been chairman he even
met with alumni. And that was a terrible meeting last night.
I can tell you that alumni were not happy all.

Speaker 14 (01:15:36):
The actual boarder trustee miss so the chair.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Yes. So how many board members? How many board members
were on the call last night meeting with alumni?

Speaker 39 (01:15:47):
I think it was about nine if I'm not seven
and nine that were on there, and I don't have
my screenshot of these accounting members, but I think it
was about seven of them.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
So okay, So they meet with the alumni. So what
the hell do they say, because I mean, did they
give alumni any reason? Hey, we want to meet with y'all. Oh,
by the way, the hell with the person y'all picked
to be the alumni on the board. We ain't seating him.
Did they even address that.

Speaker 39 (01:16:18):
No, they addressed it in the chat when it was
asked by one of the alums. You know, hey, we
had a vote and our representative hasn't been seend Well,
the response was, and the response was front of an
interim president who answered, who replied to it, Well, the board.

Speaker 14 (01:16:36):
Did not approve the alumni representative.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
First of all, why the hell is the First of all,
why the hell is the interim president speaking on anything
related to the board. Is he on the board.

Speaker 14 (01:16:52):
He's an exo facto member of the board.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Yes, yeah, but the reality is the boards. He's speaking
to that board, the board Chip. He's not a part
of the as I'm saying, he's not a part of
the board. In fact, he.

Speaker 39 (01:17:05):
Reports to the board exactly. But the problem he's this
is for that go ahead. He's always been, he's always
answered for the board. Even when we had the lawsuit.
Who do you think was the only person to show
up for the board and represent the board inter in
President Burgess? Nobody from the Board of Trustees showed up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Wow, that's that's that's just crazy to me, So and
so and here's to me, the biggest issue that I
see with all of this is that this board can
do whatever they want because essentially they're self governed. There's
nobody over them, there's nobody they're reporting to, so they
can do whatever the hell they want to do.

Speaker 39 (01:17:51):
Unfortunately, yes, they've taken a one hundred and fifty one
hundred and forty page actually it was one hundred and
fifty six page by law, and they trimmed it down
to twenty five pages and to encasculate themselves from actually
being governed. Now, the only person, the only entity that
has standing and can control them.

Speaker 14 (01:18:12):
It's the North Carolina Attorney General.

Speaker 39 (01:18:16):
Because deal mandated under the nonprofit as nonprofit organization, the
Attorney General has the right to step in at any point.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
And so what the hell is he doing?

Speaker 39 (01:18:33):
There is a current and ongoing investigation because the day
that our court case was announced and when it came
across the news, the actual Attorney General basically said they're
opening up in our current investigation on it. Now, there
have been conversations. I personally have had several conversations with
two of the attorneys that are leading the effort from

(01:18:56):
the AG's office. I've had several communications with them. They
are not at liberty to tell me the status of
the case, but they can see that it's reached a
point where our university is basically deteriorated. We have individual
we have cases of vandalism. I mean, there are things,

(01:19:17):
egregious things happening on that campus that you know, it's
just disheartening to any alumni, and we don't want it
to get to a point where our university becomes a
blighted area. And then you know what happens to blighted areas,
to blighted real estate locations when it becomes a isore

(01:19:39):
to the community. So we're just you know, alumni is
all up in arms. Last night's call did not help
us out at all. The only thing they did was
blame previous administrations. They even blamed the whistleblower for the
sex issues, and you know that was really they really
took a far re for that because the rust of

(01:20:01):
bloord Se won our case.

Speaker 14 (01:20:04):
So obviously you were doing some egregious things.

Speaker 39 (01:20:06):
That's why we've been on you know, kind of sex
probation ever since.

Speaker 14 (01:20:12):
So it's just it's just it's just disheartening. I'm here
to serve the alumni.

Speaker 39 (01:20:19):
I want to do my job, and it's kind of like, uh,
I just I just hate it.

Speaker 14 (01:20:26):
I really just hate it.

Speaker 39 (01:20:28):
And I hate it for alumni, I hate it for
current and future students. And uh, I'm just we're all
just tied of the games because all they're doing is
playing games at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Well the sense look and all they do is complain,
Oh my god, all of this bad media attention that
we get, you know, stuff on the social Yeah, but
you're inboding yourself. Let's just so just recap.

Speaker 34 (01:20:59):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Let's see, the school is so run down buildings are
so run down, you don't have students on campus. You
got people who given money to the school and they
can't figure out where the money has gone by their
on that mission, That COVID money just somehow disappeared and
no one could see the track. What happened to it?

(01:21:20):
When other schools actually were built out of their financial
problem due to the money they got from COVID. Let's
see graduating class folks didn't know they were gonna graduate.
M I missing anything. Let's see here. Oh, you lose
your accreditation appeal. Let's see here. H bad deals at
the age you had to step in and shut down

(01:21:41):
when you were gonna literally lease the land to a
group out of Florida that has no history of development whatsoever.
And just on and on and on and then wait,
hold up, I forgot. You got a board chair who
gets slapped with a major lawsuit and loses it by
getting loan some money by another board member. So you've

(01:22:03):
got a dude who's a chair who can't manage his
own money, but he's trying to manage the money of
a school with financial problems.

Speaker 39 (01:22:11):
Oh hell no, not only that Roland when he was
actually going through this. Both of them were active board members,
so he had an open case, an open case. But
they want to tell me that, oh, you joined a
lawsuit and you were suing the board. Well, sir, you

(01:22:32):
will being sued directly from another board member at the
same time. So the hypocrisy is just it's funny.

Speaker 14 (01:22:42):
And you know, to keep.

Speaker 39 (01:22:44):
From getting upset because I'm a bull City born and
I don't like best I think. For me, it's just
I have to laugh a lot because it's to me.
It just gets to a point where when you know
it's a game and you know, you know they have
nothing else. You know, this guy has nothing else to do,
then you know you just look at it for what

(01:23:06):
it is. I mean, really and truly, but we laugh.
But at the end of the day, the students are
the ones being harmed. The faculty members that you were
not able to pay are harm The faculty members that
have to pay all of these medical bills because you
didn't you know, do them right. You didn't pay into

(01:23:26):
their insurance. That's the harm. You didn't pay into their
fall one K so they can't even you know, with
all the money they put in retirement is gone because
you never did anything with it, but you showed it
coming out of that check. So I'm like, that's me.
That's the reason why you're in the media. It has
nothing to do with our fight. It's your mismanagement, your

(01:23:51):
mouth feastings, and the point that you do not care
and you do not have a host. That is the
to me, that is the ultimate disrespect to the legacy
first and foremost, and that is a disrespect to every
individual that graduated from Saint Augustine's University.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
And they have this huge financial crisis, they've lost various judgments,
and they actually want alumni to keep sending money.

Speaker 39 (01:24:23):
That was the last night we had to laugh at
that role. I mean literally we it's a lot of
us that just bust out laughing because you're gonna ask alumni,
this is your first time as a as a board
that you even met with the entire alumni since he's been.

Speaker 14 (01:24:45):
Cheer the first time and the first time.

Speaker 39 (01:24:48):
You see you give us a rundown of fifty million
in debt. One. That was a lot of that was
incurred by this board, mainly some of them, four of them,
because you didn't even show it for core.

Speaker 14 (01:25:00):
So we are judgments, right, So a lot of those.

Speaker 39 (01:25:04):
When you sit back, it's like you calls a lot
of this, but still and yet you want to ask
the line to call up two hundred and fifty to
three hundred and fifty K to pay for the lawyers
to put an injunction in place. I don't see it
because and really, at the end of the day, you're
just delayed, inevitable, we've lost our creditation. But a group

(01:25:29):
of us, definitely I can name it focus your night,
we have decided to move forward. We already have things
in place, already reached out and contacted individuals that will
help us with getting certifications and things of that nature.

Speaker 14 (01:25:45):
We're already and have already.

Speaker 39 (01:25:47):
Planned for not receiving our accreditation, so eventually we could,
you know, retain our accreditation. But the more they keep
playing with these legal maneuvers, we're going to be even
further in the hole. And they're still trying to say
to us last night, oh, we're gonna, you know, lease
the land to some developers, but we're still.

Speaker 14 (01:26:09):
Gonna have control.

Speaker 39 (01:26:11):
Everybody that knows real estate, once you lease a property
to a developer, you have no control over that land anymore.
So you're really talking to a lot of educated individuals,
but obviously the Board of Trustees doesn't think so that
doesn't think that we're really educated and can.

Speaker 14 (01:26:31):
See through excuse my language, see through the BS.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
I wouldn't give this board a quarter to hold on too.

Speaker 39 (01:26:43):
We haven't and uh and it's basically we we've sat
back and said, look, you know, we've created a five
oh one C three, the oak Wood Falcon Foundation that
is a trusted source. We've asked alumni and they and
I'm not have given and you know, giving an abundance
to all of the events that we have to take

(01:27:05):
care of. Especially when you're talking about when the students
were on campus, we were feeding the students directly by
filling the food pantry. Additionally, we were providing students with
various food cards and things of that nature because they
didn't have any cafeteria to go to, so we providing
them food cards so they can go get groceries and

(01:27:27):
things of that nature. More importantly, what we were doing
is what we evolved to. We had to start paying
bills and I'm literally from security to faculty and staff
to you know, paying for students to go home. That

(01:27:47):
didn't you know, when the school decided they wanted to
close up. We had to pay for bus tickets, So
we did this wow basically through alumni.

Speaker 14 (01:27:56):
We had to keep doing it.

Speaker 39 (01:27:58):
We were paying phone bills, more organs, just rent all
of these things, and it just got to a point
where really you really have to sit back and say,
you know, is this actually happening on a college university campus.
We're right around the corner from the Governor's mansion walks,

(01:28:20):
I mean, we can walk five minutes to the Governor's mansion.
We know everybody that's been a hot spot that's one
hundred acres in down to basically right around the corner
from the Governor's mansion in Raleigh. We know, yep, we
know what is about an old historic Oakwood Avenue. We've

(01:28:40):
been known ever since I was in school and I
graduated in the nineties, so we've known that this is
prime real estate. But the thing about it is that
what is incurred now is that you have an individual
that basically has you know, kind of you know, aligned
himself with those developers because each deal they tried to
bring on, if it wasn't for the ag the first

(01:29:03):
time with this fifty plus one mess, then we would
have been in a real hole. I mean, you're talking
about giving up two hundred million dollars in assets for
seventy million dollar loan.

Speaker 14 (01:29:15):
Make that make sense.

Speaker 39 (01:29:18):
It didn't make sense, and that's why we were actually,
Doctor Burgess, why did you even sign this? You have
the power, he has the power to say no. And
not only that, he signed the actual Gothic Ventures loan.
Who would sign a predatory loan at twenty four percent

(01:29:39):
interest rate with a two percent prepayment piloty and your
name is the only signature on there, Nobody from the
board of trustees and you're just an interim president. No,
I would have never done that. My son is fifteen
years old. He would have never done that period. So

(01:30:01):
I just I'm just. I mean, as alumni and as
someone that alumni has chosen to represent them.

Speaker 14 (01:30:10):
I go to bed every night with a heavy heart.

Speaker 39 (01:30:14):
I do, and it gets to the point sometimes where
my wife even tells me I have to take a
step back from certain things because I'm an emotional guy,
and I'm passionate about this institution because I was an
at risk child and Saint Augustine's gave me.

Speaker 14 (01:30:34):
The opportunity to get an education.

Speaker 39 (01:30:37):
George Puck Williams gave me the opportunity to earn my
tract scholarship, which I did, and he normally does not
recruit from this area, but he did for me. So
you know, I'm indebted to this university for life. I
affectionately call Saint Augustine's my mom because I owe her everything.

(01:31:02):
She birthed me to where I am now. So I'm
going to keep fighting an alumni, going to keep fighting
until we remove this board. And really and truly, I
just tell everybody, if you want to donate and you
want to help us, please send your funds to Oakwoodfalconfoundation
dot com. And if you want to come down and

(01:31:23):
pick up a garbage bag, or you feel empowered to
do anything for our campus, please reach out to us
because we need all your help, even if it's just
picking up a phone and calling the AG's office, calling
the state representatives, calling the local representatives and asking them
what is your stands on what's the currying over there

(01:31:44):
at Seeing Augustines?

Speaker 7 (01:31:46):
Because this is not.

Speaker 39 (01:31:47):
Right and for one hundred and fifty seven year old institution,
we should not be in this position to what is
the curring right now? And what is the curring right now,
is right up on our eyes. The theft of a
university is call it for what it is and take
the band aid off.

Speaker 14 (01:32:08):
That's what's happening.

Speaker 39 (01:32:10):
And if nobody has the compassion or the heart for that,
then that's on them. But you have ten thousand alumni
that are not going to go silently.

Speaker 14 (01:32:21):
We are fighting. We just need those.

Speaker 39 (01:32:24):
That are in the in the realm of have the
power to change this, to come and help us change this.
And the worst part about it, and this is what
we've already told.

Speaker 14 (01:32:38):
To doctor Burgess several times.

Speaker 39 (01:32:41):
We have almost one hundred million dollars in pledges from
various investors, various donors, community partners that are willing to invest,
but they all say the same thing that board must go.
So the question, the question that should be asked of
any authority, especially to the AG's office, is why haven't

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they left?

Speaker 14 (01:33:06):
What are you hiding?

Speaker 39 (01:33:08):
Because eventually what's done in the dark will come to
the light. And we have fifty two infractions in our
case file. So just imagine once this is all opened up,
what else we'll see, Because at this point this is terrible.
This is the theft of a University, and we're asking

(01:33:28):
those in the right frame of mind that have the
power to help us change this, to come and change it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
We're literally seeing the own eyes the destruction of an
historic HBCU. We appreciate you joining us to Steve. Thank
you so very much, and maybe time for us to
put some pressure on the trends. You don't want to say,
damn it, it's time for you to move.

Speaker 14 (01:33:54):
Hey, anything you right, well, appreciate it. So thank you,
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
I appreciate here. Thank you so very much. Got to
go to break.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
We'll be right back.

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Speaker 15 (01:35:29):
Hey, it's John Brady exactly produce up the new Sherry
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Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
You're watching hold of Mark Unfiltered. Alright, folks, These red

(01:36:09):
state people are pretty interesting because they love complaining and complaining,
complaining about these Blue states and really to succeed, and
we're so sick of them. There's been so awful and
badly run well congs Woman Jasmine Crockett really relating to
the day and her comments really followed those of California
Governor Gavin Newsom, where you've talked about how much money

(01:36:32):
the Blue states actually provides to the rest of the country.
I'm a play, but he had to say first, and
then we're gonna play what she had to say. But
it really is interesting because again, these red state people
like Margaret te La Greham, we should succeed. I don't
know about that because y'all broke as hell. Y'all gonna
need that blue state money. Here is Governor Gavin Newsom

(01:36:54):
talking to this right wing podcast, and he kind of
actually broke the truth down to listen to this.

Speaker 31 (01:37:02):
What separates our game from the game played elsewhere as innovation, entrepreneurialism,
more patents, more engineers, more researchers, more Nobel laureates in
my state than any of the damned state, more fortune
five hundred companies in my state than any other state.
Looked that up because I know people are rolling their
eyes and say, no, it's Texas, you're wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
It's true. I left it up and we're, by the way,
a donor state.

Speaker 31 (01:37:20):
We provided eighty three point one billion dollars more than
we received from the federal government. Texas took seventy one
point one billion dollars. I'm not saying that to bash Texas,
but you know what, pretty proud of my goddamn state.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
Save our weight, man.

Speaker 31 (01:37:35):
But af you repeat those numbers, eighty three point one
billion dollars we provided more to the federal government than
we received the same year that Texas received seventy one
point one million bigan more than they.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
Provided to the federal government. Not positive, not positive.

Speaker 31 (01:37:53):
Nine out of ten of the donor states are Trump states,
and I don't mean that pejoratively Trump. Seven of the
ten are Republican state, but nine out of the ten
dependent states welfare states, are Trump states. The donor states
disproportionate in the Blue states. Seventy one percent of the
country's GDP comes from Blue counties, these same crack up
counties with all these crazy liberals that can't get out

(01:38:15):
of their own goddamn way, and the world's come.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
To an end.

Speaker 31 (01:38:18):
It's seventy one percent of the economy the goddamn country, man.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
What separates our game from the game played elsewhere?

Speaker 1 (01:38:24):
Jasmine Crockett on Capitol Hill.

Speaker 15 (01:38:26):
Today, so much, mister chairman, and thank you so much
to our witnesses for being here. Unfortunately, we are witnessing
today yet another political stunt. Plain and simple Republicans are
here drawing a clear line in the sand. They will
stop at nothing to advance Donald Trump's agenda and the

(01:38:46):
dangerous blueprint laid out in Project twenty twenty five, even
if it means targeting the very groups that are working
to protect our communities and support our law enforcement agencies.
Let's be clear, across the Isle have shown little to
no interest in working with Democrats on real solutions for
the American people. Instead of addressing pressing civil rights issues

(01:39:09):
constituents actually care about, like wrongful deportations of US citizens,
ongoing efforts to undermine voting rights, or the serious flaws
in our criminal justice system, this committee is spending its
time holding a hearing with a title that sounds like
it was ripped from a conspiracy blog. This hearing how

(01:39:29):
leftist nonprofit networks exploit federal tax dollars to advance a
radical agenda.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
Really, I mean, when.

Speaker 15 (01:39:38):
I listened to you, mister chairman, who I do respect,
I heard you say things about why is it that
were given money in other places? And I want to
make sure that I answer that question because to put
America first looks like we are going to keep American
citizens safe. There is a such thing as soft power,
and that is exactly what we were trying to do

(01:40:01):
when we engage in things such as USAID. When you
start to talk about whether or not Sesame Street or
anything else that's on NPR or PBS ends up in
other places, this is so that there is not this
warped thought process about the Western world or about the
United States. We're talking about making sure that we don't

(01:40:24):
end up allowing people to be radicalized against us because
they have a terrible vision of us, because they may
be in a government that actually puts out bad, terrible
propaganda about us. So for pennies on the dollar, we
are able to educate those around the world on who
we really are in America and keep Americans safe.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
Soft power is real power.

Speaker 15 (01:40:49):
And it minimizes how much money we have to spend,
say on dropping bombs and countries at a random time,
without say, congressional authority.

Speaker 19 (01:40:58):
But I digress.

Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
This's kind of rhetoric, whether.

Speaker 15 (01:41:01):
Directed at nonprofits, their leaders, or elected officials, is not
only reckless, it is beneath the dignity of this institution.
And sadly, this isn't the first time this has happened.
Over the past six months, we've seen hearing after hearing
do nothing but attack nonprofits as well as those who
are just generally on a mission to serve, protect, and

(01:41:21):
uplift vulnerable communities. In just my own committees, this has
got to be the second or third time I've had
to sit through the same tired narrative. If my Republican
colleagues are truly concerned about taxpayer dollars being misused for
political agendas, I'd encourage them to take a long, hard
look in the mirror. But since we're here again spending
more of the American people's money and time on political theater,

(01:41:45):
let's at least stick to the facts.

Speaker 19 (01:41:47):
Fact.

Speaker 15 (01:41:48):
Under the Trump administration, the Department of Justice stripped hundreds
of millions of dollars from the Office of Justice programs,
money that funded essential community safety initiatives like victim services,
gang prevention, and re entry support.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
Fact.

Speaker 15 (01:42:03):
Trump and Republicans slash grants to organizations like the National
Organization for Victim Assistance, which trains advocates who staff domestic
violence shelters, hotlines and rape crisis centers. Fact they cut
over ten million dollars in funding to the National Policing Institute,
a nonprofit helping rule police departments reduce violent crime. Fact,

(01:42:26):
this week, Republicans are trying to gut Pepfar, a life
saving program that partners with nonprofits around the world and
has saved more than twenty six million lives. And let's
not forget many of these cuts were laid out in
Project twenty twenty five, a radical far right playbook drafted
by hyper conservative nonprofits for the express purpose of dismantling

(01:42:48):
the very government institutions and systems that serve the public good. Ironically,
we even have one of the authors of Project twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 19 (01:42:56):
Here with us today.

Speaker 15 (01:42:57):
So let's not pretend this is about nonprofit accountability, because
if it were, this committee would also be investigating the
Conservative Partnership Institute, which is pushed anti immigrant, anti LGBTQ plus,
and anti vaccine propaganda and hosted efforts to challenge.

Speaker 19 (01:43:14):
The twenty twenty election.

Speaker 15 (01:43:16):
Mind you, as we have these organizations that are pushing
anti vaccine propaganda, we know that measles has reached a
thirty year high when measles had actually been over and
done with.

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
But now that we don't.

Speaker 15 (01:43:29):
Believe in vaccines, now children are our targets. Unfortunately, and yes,
they are dying the New Century Foundation, a white nationalist
organization that somehow maintains it's five oh one C three
status to launder hate speech through the language of intellectual inquiry.
Or they would investigate Turning Point USA, which has been
linked to organizers of the January sixth insurrection. But Republicans

(01:43:53):
aren't talking about those groups because this isn't about accountability.
It's about silencing organizations that challenge Republican power. It's about
targeting nonprofits that protect the very people this Trump aligned
movement continues to harm. These organizations are defending victims of
unlawful actions. They're helping to combat global pandemics. They're supporting

(01:44:14):
police departments when this very committee won't. They're working to
build safer, healthier communities while Trump and his allies defund
them to hand out tax breaks to billionaires. And maybe
that's the real threat here. They're effective. They get people
off the streets, out of prison and into opportunity. They
educate people about injustice, and that apparently scares some folks

(01:44:38):
more than any so called radical agenda, because the only
thing truly radical about these nonprofits is their belief that
human beings deserve dignity, opportunity, and equal protection under the law.
Values my Republican colleagues seem to have forgotten, along with
love thy neighbor. So instead of demonizing the groups trying
to do right by our communities, maybe we should be

(01:45:00):
asking how to support them, how to ensure taxpayer dollars
reach the people who need the most, because this hearing
should be about public safety, not political vendettas. Until that happens,
these hearings are doing more harm than good. Thank you,
mister chairman, and I yell back.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
These broc ass red states want to do that? Michael,
take you best shot.

Speaker 13 (01:45:24):
Yup in California was just named in April twenty twenty
five the fourth largest economy in the world at four
point one trillion dollars. So yeah, these are a lot
of brocast red states. They should brodcast red states secede
from the Union. And Jasmine Crockett is absolutely correct and
hitting these people. And remember, in February twenty twenty five,

(01:45:44):
Donald Trump ended the database tracking federal police misconduct. Also
that he proposed in twenty twenty after George Floyd was killed.

Speaker 1 (01:45:57):
Bomb line is what's that song on frough ideal? Get
the hell on, get gone, Rendy.

Speaker 9 (01:46:06):
Hit the road, Jack.

Speaker 14 (01:46:07):
I don't know which one, but I know there's some scrubs.

Speaker 9 (01:46:10):
We don't want no scrubs.

Speaker 19 (01:46:11):
I mean, how are you gonna be talking so much trash?

Speaker 9 (01:46:13):
And you the broken states?

Speaker 19 (01:46:15):
The Republicans are the ones who are always talking.

Speaker 12 (01:46:17):
About cutting social services and getting rid of welfare, whereas
they are the states who receive welfare from the Democratic States.
It's just incredibly ironic, and they're hypocrites.

Speaker 1 (01:46:33):
Mustapha, you know, as representive, Crockett said, Facts, Blue states
are the economic engine.

Speaker 9 (01:46:43):
Facts, Blue states subsidized Red states.

Speaker 14 (01:46:45):
Facts.

Speaker 9 (01:46:46):
Red states have the higher property rates, and they also
are more reliant on SNAP and Medicaid and disability benefits.
And of course they're hit by the climate crisis, so
they need federal funds to be able to rebuild, when
they should have put policies in places in the beginning.
So it's very clear, you know, who's the driver of
our economy and who is the benefactor of those resources

(01:47:09):
that Blue states continue to share because they care about everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:47:16):
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Was that?

Speaker 34 (01:48:08):
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Speaker 32 (01:48:19):
You ain't got no hair listen. You know you know
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Speaker 14 (01:48:27):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:48:28):
So but let me tell you.

Speaker 32 (01:48:29):
She first, she created the first prototype by cutting cutting
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she has so many different products.

Speaker 7 (01:48:52):
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Speaker 32 (01:48:52):
She really solved a problem because at the time, we
met with the Surgeon General doctor doctor Regina Benjamin, and
she told us that especially black women were making a
detrimental choice between their hair and their health. So Nicole
actually figured out a solution on how to be able

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to work out and still keep your edges under control,
which you know is very important for our sisters.

Speaker 1 (01:49:23):
Nicole, So, did you really cut up one of his
shirts and himself? Was it one of the you know?
Was it was? It? Was it one of the you know,
I have a lot of the the moisture shirts.

Speaker 7 (01:49:36):
That what it was?

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
Exactly right.

Speaker 3 (01:49:41):
They were trying to clarify if I was the founder
or the.

Speaker 26 (01:49:45):
I was the creator Roland.

Speaker 1 (01:49:50):
I was trying to solve my So So okay, so okay,
I need you to take me through this. Were you
were you sitting here going, man, this fabig feels kind
of good. This might huh if this absorbed his sweat
on the tennis court, this could absorb my head? Is
that what happened?

Speaker 26 (01:50:10):
That's exactly what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:50:12):
I cut up a couple of his shirts, and I
sowed many prototypes because I know we all have different needs.
I made the he's right, I made my triangle. I
made wide band and a thin band, and I made
everything that I would like on any given day, you know,
because I had two small children. My husband was trying

(01:50:34):
to go for a run with me on the beach
and I had just found enough time to get my
hair blown.

Speaker 26 (01:50:39):
Out, and I had to choose between him, the kids,
or my hair. And I was like, there's got to
be a way I can do it all. And I
just made it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:48):
And for all the new entrepreneurs out there who have
an idea, I would just tell them to start. Because
I did not have a business degree, I did not
have any marketing connection, and I just made it. And
I hit the ground running trying to find a manufacturer
and all of the things.

Speaker 26 (01:51:08):
And here we are, twelve years later on your.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
Show, Barad bar Did you make her buy you some
replacement shirts? Because listen, I listen, I tell my wife,
stay the hell out of my closet.

Speaker 26 (01:51:22):
I sold so many Roland, so he's got plenty of shirts.
I bought him that one.

Speaker 7 (01:51:28):
Yeah she did.

Speaker 32 (01:51:29):
I got you know, I got to be honest, she did.
She she worked it out for me. But look this
this has really grown into a company that has become
a staple in our community. You know, I'm so thankful
for all the support that that we have gotten over
the years. And she has really expanded her product line

(01:51:50):
from the first gym wrap to not just not just
the triangle, but also bandies, the thin ones, the narrow ones,
the wide ones, now hats as well, which I use
every single day when I'm on a tennis court. You know,
they wake away the moisture as well the sweat, so
the sweat doesn't go in your face. And really she's
allowed us to not have to choose between our hair.

Speaker 7 (01:52:13):
And our health.

Speaker 32 (01:52:15):
We're able to go and work out and take off
the gym map, blow dry the edges a little.

Speaker 7 (01:52:21):
Bit, and go to work.

Speaker 32 (01:52:21):
So it's really done a great deal of service to
our community.

Speaker 14 (01:52:26):
I'm super proud of her.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
Son. Cole, you just said something I thought was important.
You one you saw problem. You like, h man, this
bored shirt feel kind of nice. Oh let me go
ahead and do this here. And so after you cut
up the first two shirts. Okay, what was next for you?
Just walk people. See one of the greatest problems that

(01:52:53):
I always tell entrepreneurs is don't talk about where you
are today. Walk people through how you had to get there,
because that's where people get stuck. So after you cut
the shirts up, then you went and worked out what
was the next thought for you? Like, Okay, what are
I going now?

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
I love that question because it was really uh challenging,
you know, just going right to the source, right to
manufacturers and trying to describe to them the level of
specific material that I was looking for. And you know,
I'm who has no relationship to hair or sweating or anything.

(01:53:35):
And you know, I had to pitch myself just to
get the first step. And then when it was time
to create a website, and I had great business I
have great business partners, so they handled what they knew
how to handle, and it was just I had to
fight for it. I mean I really had to like

(01:53:56):
dig deep.

Speaker 26 (01:53:57):
And not give up.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
And I had wonderful outlets by being an actor like you. Whenever,
when all that was done, I was able to go
on a few talk shows.

Speaker 26 (01:54:09):
And get it in a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
But when it was time to expand and get into
a store. I had to wheel my little suitcase up
and pitch my product like everybody else. You know, how
to face cream or a bath, just like everyone else.
They didn't care that I was on a TV show.

Speaker 1 (01:54:31):
And you know, and I think that's that's what you're
describing again why it's so important, because that's what a
lot of people don't understand. People in Amazingly, when people say, man,
I would have been entrepreneur, I go, do you know
what that means? Do you know what it means to?

Speaker 32 (01:54:51):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
Do you know what it means to? Yeah? I'm like,
I set a book signing a couple of weeks ago
in Detroit, and my assistant didn't ship the book ahead
of time. No, and then if we did ship them late,
it was gonna cost like four hundred dollars. I was like, well, damn,
that's you know, twenty dollars time each book, Like that's
eating in the profit and so oh, hell yeah, I

(01:55:13):
put one hundred damn books in a suitcase and we'll
let some bitch into that sucker and pulled out myself aside.
I mean again, that's what you have to do, no
matter whether you are an actor, whether you're in media,
if you're trying to actually do a business, you're gonna
have to do stuff like that, and your ego has
to get set aside.

Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
You do have to have a little bit of self
confidence though. It's like being humble and bold at the
same time, like you believe in what you have and
yet you are in the waiting room with everybody else.

Speaker 26 (01:55:48):
And it was it was quite a journey, but it
had touched a nerve.

Speaker 3 (01:55:54):
I was so blessed that doctor Benjamin had made those
announcements that ninety percent of the things that we were
suffering from as a community were preventable, you know, and maybe.

Speaker 26 (01:56:06):
My numbers off.

Speaker 3 (01:56:06):
I think she said eighty eighty percent was preventable. Strokes,
blood pressure, and most of those things were preventable with
watching our food and at least getting.

Speaker 26 (01:56:17):
Some movement in every day.

Speaker 3 (01:56:20):
And so I was selling like crazy, and then I
had a little bit of money.

Speaker 26 (01:56:25):
This is the other thing.

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
I bought some late night media time on the tennis channel,
So that wasn't really my market, but I knew my
product was great for outdoor athletes. It sold out tennis players,
volleyball players, they loved it. Boys were wearing it under
their football helmets. It was like a whole new world

(01:56:49):
open up. But I took that risk. I had just
a little bit to do that, and I took the risk.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
So did did that idea? Did the the idea of
bars for that tennis time come from you? Because you
have quite a history on the tennis courts.

Speaker 32 (01:57:08):
Well, I don't want to take the credit Roland. You
know how that goes when you're married. But yes, that
might have been a conversation that we had before she
did that. But look, some of the things that she
said is very important. Number One, people just have to try,
and they don't have to. They don't They shouldn't be

(01:57:29):
afraid to ask questions, right, ask a thousand questions if
you want to, and if you have to. Also, don't
be afraid to make mistakes. You're going to make some mistakes.
I think resiliency is very important. A lot of people
give up right before they're about to hit that plateau
of that next level.

Speaker 7 (01:57:46):
And also, you know, like Nicole said.

Speaker 32 (01:57:49):
All the money that she made went right back into
the business because in order to expand, in order to scale,
you're going to have to spend money that you're making
to own the business.

Speaker 7 (01:58:01):
It's not that easy, but it is worth it.

Speaker 32 (01:58:03):
And I have to really again say that she was
doing this in the name of service, and I think
that is also an aspect that has really helped her
grow because she was providing a real solution to people.

(01:58:25):
And I think it was sort of the product and
the business was anointed. It was really divine intervention that
helped her grow this business because she was doing it
in the name of service.

Speaker 1 (01:58:39):
Well, it certainly serves a need. I'm looking in our
group chat and there are people sitting here talking about
it right now in terms of places they've been as
hot and it's not yet. And again I mean at
the end of the day, you know, you different parts
of the country in the world, even if you're just
visiting places and it's hot and you're sweating. That's the

(01:59:00):
sisters will say, Man, look at Houston. So you know,
I know what it means when the sister's like, yo,
that humidity as soon as you hit the door. All
that money you spent on getting your hair done. That's
why a lot of sisters, I know, when the heat comes,
they go up. Brad's time, we ain't dealing with all
of that, but of course this product. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:59:23):
I was just saying, that's why I made cute styles too,
just for front of your errands.

Speaker 1 (01:59:30):
See, there you go, because you're gonna be out in
the heat. You're gonna be out in the heat. So, folks,
the product is gym wrap. Again, if you go to
shop Blackstar Network dot com. You know, since we launt
this show September fourth, twenty eighteen, we've always had our
marketplace segment because we wanted to give an opportunity for
black owned businesses, people who have products to be able

(01:59:51):
to share with our audience. Talk to them, guys, drop
that graphic. I think y'all want you're in to pull
the website up so they can actually see the gym
wraps on the website. Because so again, if y'all go
to shop Blackstar Network dot com, we want you to
you know, let folks know pass pass the word again
because there are a number of products that we have

(02:00:14):
on the site. We feature other people as well. Uh
And I'm just go ahead and cut to it myself.
So this, if you go to the website, you'll see
right here, Jim, you'll see the different products right here.
The hat two point oh gym wrap two point oh,
the pony two point oher full triangle, what's this bandy

(02:00:35):
two point oh set shadow black white bandy two point
oh as well, and then of course the visor as well.
So those products are on the website as we speaks
for men and women. Uh, and so yeah, I might
have to try one of these, Nicole, because I play golf. Uh.
And listen, when you're I'll walk in the heat, you're.

Speaker 32 (02:00:57):
Sweating, you should definitely try the hats. The hats, one
of them, you know, every single day. It's the best
hat you'll ever try.

Speaker 26 (02:01:03):
It's soft.

Speaker 1 (02:01:04):
And it happens with one of the hat two point oh.

Speaker 32 (02:01:07):
The hat, yeah, the hat, not the not the pony.
The pony has a little hole in the back for
the ponytails. I'm not sure if you're yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (02:01:15):
I don't have that issue, you know. No, ain't no,
ain't no ponytail here. That ain't gonna happen. So it'll
it'll be the hat because and again I mean like
I because I have like one of my off of hats.
And man, the way that things make, like when I'm sweating,
when I'm over a put it looked like a waterfall,
just coming straight down. Uh, so yeah, I'll have to
try the hat two all right, the hat two point

(02:01:39):
oh uh and listen, I test drive everything, so I'll
let folk know. And so y'all go to shop Blackstar
network dot com check out this quickly for my panel questions.
You got any rand of you first.

Speaker 26 (02:01:54):
I've had I've had a gym rap for ten years.

Speaker 9 (02:01:57):
Easily, it works, it works.

Speaker 12 (02:02:00):
My hair is usually short. And you really did. I mean,
you solved a major problem. Black women would not work
out because of our hair. You know, we would completely
you know, we get our hair done on Friday. So
it's like I can't work out Saturday, Sunday, Monday because
I want to be cute. Maybe you do Tuesday Wednesday
because you're going to get.

Speaker 26 (02:02:18):
Your hair done again.

Speaker 12 (02:02:20):
Like our health was very much determined by our hair.
And so my best friend called me and said.

Speaker 26 (02:02:28):
Have you tried so and so?

Speaker 12 (02:02:30):
And I did, and it truly works, Roland, you don't
even have to test drive.

Speaker 9 (02:02:34):
I can honestly tell you that it works for real.

Speaker 26 (02:02:37):
And so thank you very much, thank you, thank you
for that.

Speaker 1 (02:02:43):
And I made them, Roland, I I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (02:02:47):
Go ahead, go ahead, you know because I know that
some of us have short styles and some of us
have braids, but we lay our baby hair down and
all the things. So that's why I have a bandy
for people who like a one band. But I also
made ties so people can time as tight.

Speaker 26 (02:03:01):
Or loose as they want and be more flexible.

Speaker 3 (02:03:04):
So I thought of all of the things that I
go through myself and included them in the line.

Speaker 1 (02:03:13):
Well, Mustafa, he's got braids. Uh so? Uh he always
rocking the l cool j kangos. He made the try
one of your hands, Mustafa, go ahead.

Speaker 9 (02:03:23):
Yeah, well thanks for that. No, I don't have braids,
I have locks. But uh yeah so Nicole.

Speaker 1 (02:03:29):
Lock braives locks.

Speaker 9 (02:03:31):
There's a difference anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
Braise, you've got long you got you got long hair.
I got long hair.

Speaker 9 (02:03:38):
Yeah blak, thank you for loving black folks. My question was,
you know again, I do I have a lot of hair.
So I was just curious, like for the hats, do
they come in one size or are there other sizes?
Or do they stretch?

Speaker 26 (02:03:54):
They're adjustable? I I it depends. You know, if you've got.

Speaker 3 (02:03:58):
A lot of locks and a lot of bulk, I
would still put your hair pull it in your own
comfortable ponytail holder and then use this just for the
sweat in the front, you know, so it stops dripping.

Speaker 26 (02:04:12):
Down if you're really working out.

Speaker 14 (02:04:17):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
Oh, I see guys in the gym, all right, Michael
hen Okay, Michael. He ain't got no locks, so he
ain't got that problem. I canel go ahead.

Speaker 13 (02:04:27):
No, i't have any locks, but I I do wear
all cool j King go though, Nicole and Bors.

Speaker 7 (02:04:33):
This is fantastic.

Speaker 13 (02:04:35):
My question is dealing with your distribution in addition to
the Tennis channel taking out as on the tennis channel,
are you in brick and mortar stores? Do you go
to expos and sale? What's your distribution like? And also
loved you all and soul Food You are one of
my favorite TV couples and real life couples also.

Speaker 7 (02:04:54):
Great question.

Speaker 32 (02:04:56):
So we've gone through various distributors outlets from brick and
mortars in all the big box stores. What we have
found is that we're doing really, really well direct to
consumers so online obviously, our margins are much better and
we have a revolutionary conversion rate of two and a

(02:05:17):
half times the norm, which is again due to the
loyalty and the support that we've been enjoying from our community,
so thank you again so much for that.

Speaker 7 (02:05:28):
So it just depends.

Speaker 32 (02:05:29):
Every once in a while we hit our stride in
the brick and mortars and then we go online again.
So right now it's about seventy thirty online. Because for
those of you who don't know, when you're dealing with
big retailers, there's a lot that goes with it. You know,

(02:05:52):
we're talking about inventory, we're talking about warehousing. That's additional
costs that you have to incur. And then also you
have to support your stuff on the shelves by way
of marketing and advertising spend. So those big box retailers
ask you to shell out additional money to promote the

(02:06:13):
product in the stores. They don't promote the stuff. You
have to promote the stuff right. Sometimes sometimes when you
like my wife, when you have a great following and
enjoy great loyalty and amongst our consumers, it's better to
go the online only route because the margins are better

(02:06:33):
and you also can get to expand your product line
really quickly from one day to the next, whereas when
you're in a big box store you always have to
wait six months till the next cycle until you can
introduce a new product. So they're not as flexible as
you want to be. So sometimes e commerce works much better, right,

(02:06:54):
all right, thank.

Speaker 1 (02:06:55):
You, gotcha? Got you, gotcha? And here and you know
some people they can't just stop being what they used
to be. So Candy Carter, of course, whose company set
all this up, is texting me ask about new season

(02:07:15):
of Sex in the City reboot And just like that.
She used to be a producer with Oprah Show, so
she can't stop producing. So I guess she figured she
wanted to produce me, but gone right ahead, tell me
about the season two of the Sex in the City reboot.

Speaker 3 (02:07:32):
We're in season three right now, I think we have
We're on episode episode seven, air aired last week, and
eight out of twelve, so she's got about four or.

Speaker 1 (02:07:45):
Five more weeks, okay, and just like that, what is that?

Speaker 3 (02:07:53):
And just like that, Yes, it's the reboot of Sex
in the City.

Speaker 26 (02:07:56):
It's called it.

Speaker 1 (02:07:56):
Just like that, it's oh, that's what it's called. Got it?

Speaker 37 (02:08:00):
Yes?

Speaker 26 (02:08:00):
Yes, So I'm having a ball.

Speaker 1 (02:08:04):
Bars what you got?

Speaker 7 (02:08:05):
What?

Speaker 1 (02:08:05):
You go ahead?

Speaker 7 (02:08:08):
Go ahead?

Speaker 1 (02:08:08):
You shot what?

Speaker 26 (02:08:09):
Just saying that I shot it?

Speaker 3 (02:08:10):
I shot this season through October and now it's on
the air and it's all.

Speaker 26 (02:08:14):
It's very exciting. These the fans are from twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:08:18):
Okay, and and Bars Candy is texting me saying, ask
Bars what does he have coming up that people can
watch and support.

Speaker 32 (02:08:31):
Well, we just finished season eight of Station nineteen and
it's a series wrap. So we finished the show. I
spent eight years on that show. It was a great run.
We're in one hundred and twenty different countries worldwide, so now.

Speaker 7 (02:08:46):
I'm actually doing a bunch of things in Africa.

Speaker 32 (02:08:49):
We we're creating content in and for Africa, and uh,
you know, continuing full circle, which you were invited too
many times at some point you gotta you gotta come
with us Roland, we did Ghana, and now we're expanding
in different regions on the continent for people to reconnect

(02:09:11):
with the ancestry and to counteract old stereotypical narratives about
the continent and show people what Africa is really about.

Speaker 26 (02:09:20):
He also is.

Speaker 1 (02:09:22):
What I get invited, where I get invited? Let me
check me. I'm look for first of all, where you're going.

Speaker 7 (02:09:28):
Next emails, you better check.

Speaker 1 (02:09:30):
He's yeah, look up the email. I believe in see
uh huh behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (02:09:36):
What directing and producing. He's got a lot of stuff
in the oven. So he'll circle back.

Speaker 1 (02:09:41):
With you, all right. So all right, so here's the deal. Yeah,
let me know, maybe he went to the spam folder
because I was in Ghanna twenty nineteen, I was in
Liberia in twenty twenty two. I was in Ethiopia last year.
So yeah, let me know where y'all going next, you know,
because I got people hitting me in Nigeria and somebody

(02:10:03):
invited me to Tanzania today, so you know, let a
brother no. But yeah, remember the email is rolling at
rollinssmartin dot com. Somebody mail dropped that.

Speaker 32 (02:10:15):
S Okay, okay, I'll check, but I think I got
the right one.

Speaker 1 (02:10:22):
All right, then, folks, gym wrap go to shop Blackstar
Network dot com. Y'all can get it. Men and women. Absolutely,
let's support the cole and bars, support our black owned products.
And when you buy on the when you buy on
shop Blackstar Network dot com, you're also supporting this network
because we also get a cut as well. And so

(02:10:45):
this is all about supporting the black owned business ecosystem,
and that's why it is so important. So the Cole
bar is always great to see y'all. I'm sure we'll
run into each other in an airport again soon.

Speaker 14 (02:10:59):
That's right as usual.

Speaker 2 (02:11:01):
Thanks appreciate you get.

Speaker 26 (02:11:03):
Some I'll make sure you get some.

Speaker 1 (02:11:05):
Caps, all right. Well, I walk eighteen holes, so I'll
definitely be wearing on the golf course. I appreciate it.

Speaker 14 (02:11:12):
Thanks a lot, Thank you bank.

Speaker 1 (02:11:17):
All right, folks, that is it for us today. I
noone over the time, but it's always good to go
over time. Let me thank Mustafa, let me thank Randy.
Let me think Michael being our pound today. Thank you
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(02:11:39):
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(02:12:24):
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All right?

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There?

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