Jailed Black Mailman Death Sparks Lawsuit, Day 14 Shutdown Pain, Crockett vs GOP, NOLA Makes History

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey folks. Today's Monday, October thirteen, twenty twenty five. Coming
up a roller unfiltered streaming live on the Blackstar Network.
I'm here in Deefert, Georgia, where former NFL and Minor
League baseball star Brian Jordan held a celebrity called Classic.
Coming up today's show, a missile of the police department
in the county. They are being accused of ignoring clear
signs of a medical emergency involving a jailed black man.

(00:42):
We'll talk with attorneys. We're filing a lawsuit against them. Today,
day fourteen of the government shut down. Four thousand employees
have lost their jobs and no end insight ending this disaster.
And today's Crocket Chronicles consom Adjasment Crockett calls up the
glpiece of potocracy doing a heated house hearing and she

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sur probably admits that Margaret Taylor Green is correct like
a broke clock than twice re correct twice a day.
In New Orleans, two black candidates failed to win that race.
New Orleans now had his first Latina mayor. We'll tell
you who she is. Plus, a small town in Mississippi
has taken on a UK based company and emerged victorious.

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Residents of Gloucester claim that a company wants to increase
pollution from its wood pet pelt plant in their town.
We'll talk with a community organized. A lots to break down.
It's time to bring the phone. Rolling two on the
Blackside network.

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He's going.

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She's real the question, No, he's rolling, folks.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Another traffic stop, another black man dead, this time in Eagan, Minnesota.
The family of Kingsley Fife bem Pong, fifty year old
man from Ghana, has a fout one hundred and twenty
million dollar lawsuit against the counties. The federal wrongful death lawsuit.
Laws of claims officers and jail staff mistook his stroke

(02:57):
symptoms for drug and leaving him without medical care for hours.
Let's talk with Katie Bennett. She's representing the family. She
joined us right now. Katie, glad to have you here
on Rollard Martin unfiltered, walk us through these allegations are
unbelievable in terms of what happened. So, first of all,

(03:20):
while was he arrested.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Right, So Kingsley had left work early suffering from a headache,
and he ended up taking a left turn on a
red arrow and drove down the.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
Side of the street and was pulled over by Egan officers.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Okay, so he's pulled over by the officers, he runs
the red light. But so what they thought that, oh,
my goodness, he's on drugs. So therefore, let's bring him
to the jail.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
Exactly. They assumed impairment from what they had seen and
proceeded to get a search warrant for his blood. And
he ended up at the jail after spending two hours
and sixteen minutes with the Egan officers, where he was
clearly declining. And then he suffers at the jail on

(04:28):
the jail floor for another three hours and forty minutes
and spirals towards death.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Now I'm confused. So he's complaining to them of what
he's going through, what he's feeling. They take him to jail.
He's there for two hours. Okay, you just described total
of five hours. At any point, our medic's called is
anybody literally checking him to see what's going on. So

(05:01):
medics were not called at the traffic stop or at
the jail.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
That's correct.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
There is only medics called with regard to the search
warrant for his blood and they spent about seventeen minutes
there did their job for the blood work, and that's
about it. He is in the presence of the Egan
officers for a significant period of time, and then correctional
officers are also at the jail doing checks on him

(05:29):
and walking by. He's going to sell with large windows
where he can be seen by many of the individuals,
including all the defendant correctional officers.

Speaker 7 (05:39):
That have been so.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, So what then happened? So five hours go by
and what then leaves to do? They ever call paramedics, Yes.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
But at that point he is so close to death
that it doesn't matter. There's nothing that can be done
for him.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Eventually, one of the correctional officers is that he is
foaming at the mouth, gray in color, having seizure like activity,
and brings us to their attention, and a nurse comes
in and then eventually paramedics their colonies taken to two
hospitals after but there's again nothing that could be done.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Do you have have you all been able to see
bodycam footage of the traffic stop in the rest dash
cam footage, and then have you been able to see
video footage from the jail as well.

Speaker 6 (06:42):
Yes, we have had access to all of that pre suit.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
It's detailed in the complaint with regard to what the
officers were discussing, including that it was potentially a medical incident,
and all of his telltale stroke signs that he was exhibiting,
and the fact that those signs never obeyed and in

(07:07):
fact get worth throughout the five hours and forty minutes
he's with law enforcement officers.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
So what was the county, the police department, the jailers,
what was their reaction? They say, hey, my bad, sorry,
we screwed up.

Speaker 6 (07:29):
In reaction to the lawsuit, Egan has basically doubled.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
Down on the actions taken by their officers, or I
should say deliver indifference taken by their officers, asserting that
he didn't tell them of any medical conditions. I could
explain his behavior, and I would say that's ludicrous. A
person who, on seeing with officers can't tell his name,

(07:56):
where he worked, where he's coming from his own address.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, as a matter of fact, if somebody can't tell
me those things, even if I suspect him of being
under drug, of being drug impaired, I still need to
get some medical professionals who can tell me that's actually
what's going on.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
Exactly. It didn't matter the underlying cause.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
When you're faced with those types of symptoms, the cognitive
and physical impairments that he was exhibiting, underlying cause doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Get him help, medical help, absolutely crazy, absolutely crazy, certainly condoless,
go out to his family. And again this is just
another story that we keep seeing, another example of what happens,
uh when for an African American when they when a

(08:57):
traffic stop literally turns into a death sentence. And that's
what it sounds like happen here. Certainly keep a surprised
what happens with this lawsuit? Well do thank you, folks,
going to.

Speaker 6 (09:13):
A quick break.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
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Speaker 9 (10:13):
Hello, Hello, Hello, I'm Jerry Johnson from Harlem on Prime
and you're watching the Black Star Network.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
All right, folks, Today Marx the fourteenth day of the
government shut down, and the Senate did not hold of
old today as it is a federal holiday. Is Indigenous
People Day or well the others called Columbus Day. You know,
the guy who actually got lost in so called founded
the comfort, founded the country. More than four thousand federal

(10:50):
employees have recently received layoff notices due to the ongoing
political stand all. Approximately seven hundred staff members who were
stakily fired from the CDC on Friday have been reinstated,
according to the American Federation of Government Employees. Let me
deal with that with my panel. O mean congo to
being a senior and profactory elector of School of be

(11:10):
in National Service, American University, author of Lives about Black People,
How to Combat Races of the DC rita shan full
majority state representative, as well as Eugene Craig's CEO X
Factor Media Inc. Out of Baltimore. It shows you, Rinita,
the sheer stupidity of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert

(11:31):
Candy that you would fire all of these specialists on Friday,
and here we are Monday. You have to reinstate them.
These are the Keystone cops. These are true idiots, and
the fact that these people are in control of the
government is pretty shameful, right.

Speaker 9 (11:48):
And it's not the first time, because we saw that
when the Trump administration first came into office, they had
doge going on where Elon Musk was running around firing
lots of federal workers. And what was not loudly reported
as loud as the firings, what was not loudly reporting
was the fact that a lot of those workers that
Elon Musk fired without any rime or reason or even

(12:09):
knowing what they were doing, had to be rehired. So
this is a constant pattern with the Trump administration of
them not having any sort of critical thinking or any
sort of plan around what they do, and they just
jump into action.

Speaker 10 (12:21):
And that's not the way that government works.

Speaker 9 (12:24):
This is you know, it's just more of the same
and unfortunately it's a lot more expensive for the country
to get back these folks when you have let folks go,
and you know, people not everybody is just going to say, hey,
I'll just come right back to work. So this has
just been more of the same of just a chaotic administration.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Not only that, Eugene, it's just totally disruptive to an
individual and their family. I mean, all of a sudden,
you know, you get noticed, Hey you're fired on Friday.
Over the weekend, you deal with that. It's like, oh,
I'm sorry, my bad, come back on Monday.

Speaker 11 (13:02):
I mean, it sounds like to me that the literal
intentional affliction and most of the stress, you know, negligence
as well. The thing is this, right, what everybody has
to understand is that they are literally doing what they
told you they ever want to do. For years they said, hey,
we want to scale down the federal bureaucracy, and now

(13:22):
they have the opportunity to do it. They tried to
force it with those and now they say, because we
have this government shutdown, we're just going to eventually just
start firing people, and used to shut down as a
reason to do it, but because it's what they've always wanted.

Speaker 12 (13:35):
To do, and now they have the window opportunity.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Hom the congo.

Speaker 13 (13:43):
Yeah, I mean, going to to Ernita's point, the people
they fired the first time around are people who worked
for the handling the nuclear you know, energy, and they
had to bring them back. And when they try to
bring them back, they couldn't find them because they didn't
have their personal email addresses and they shut off the
access to their own emails their work emails, so they
had to struggle to find them. And I'm going to

(14:04):
assume that this is probably happening right now as well.
And I think to the last point, it's important that
people do get reminded of the fact that this was
Russell Wolt's plans, all planned, all of the time. Feels
like there's too much, too many Democrats who work in
the government feels like the government's too big. And one
of the things that I appreciated was that some of
the people who have been laid off, because some folks
are not coming back right, some people who have been

(14:26):
laid off have said, Democrats, we still want you to
keep it up.

Speaker 12 (14:29):
We still want you to keep the.

Speaker 13 (14:30):
Fight going, because we know that you're fighting for this
country and for a group that has been in so
control of the messaging talking about the Republican Party, this
is a message that they're losing. You see what the
airport delays and things. People don't want to play the
videos in the airports of Christinolm. And so Democrats have
to keep pushing this. But the people who are being
laid off, even the ones who are being invited back,

(14:51):
they also have to keep pushing this because this is
a narrative that Democrats, with their singular messaging, have being
able to start controlling. And Mike Johnson and John Thunen,
all of these guys, they look like fools out there.
Everybody knows that this is about covering up for Epstein,
and everybody knows this is about a shutdown that they
want to use to continue to implement what they already
told us they were going to do as has been said.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
You got a million four federal employees that have been
furloughed without pay. To that particular point there, Ranita, when
you look at what's going on here, Republicans having to
own this, and of course they're trying all they can
to say, oh, it's Jeffries's Jeffers, is Jeffy's Schumer. But

(15:36):
we know what's going on here. They do not want
to roll back these healthcare cuts, and Democrats are saying,
we're going to remain stand fast. In fact, you guys,
if y'all had that video of that Congressman haking Jeffries
put out on socialists roll that video, that speaks directly
to this issue, I mean related to this point. What

(16:40):
you're saying is you're seeing Democrats really hold on on
on the healthcare issue, and that appears to be an
argument that is gaining traction with voters.

Speaker 9 (16:52):
Absolutely, and I'm so glad that Democrats are holding the
line because that is not usually what happens. Usually what
happens is Democrats will say, hey, we got to be
the bigger people in the room, and we have to
figure out some type of compromise. And I heard this
so many times in the legislature where Democrats would say, hey, well,
you know, we all go ahead and vote for the
thing that's not the worst thing that the Republicans came
out with first. And so it became almost a game

(17:14):
where Republicans knew they could come out with the worst
bill and the Democrats would reject it, and then they
would come with something in the middle which was still
terrible and harmful to the general public, and then the
Democrats would say, oh, okay, we got to vote for
this because the most harmful thing is not what they
are pushing since they have the majority.

Speaker 10 (17:30):
But Democrats are not doing that this time.

Speaker 9 (17:32):
And I'm so glad because Democrat it looks like in
this instance, Democrats are waking up and realizing that when
you decide to vote for a bill, whether you feel
like that bill is perfect.

Speaker 10 (17:41):
Or not, you're going along with what the bill, the
language that's in the bill.

Speaker 9 (17:45):
And Democrats are standing strong now saying no, we are
not going to budge on reducing access to healthcare for
our constituents or anybody else. This is one of the
singular most important issues on both sides of the isle.
People know that they need access to health care, and
any bill that would make the premiums higher for healthcare,
people are already complained about how much health care costs.

(18:07):
It's already a really a struggle, especially for people who
are small business owners. It's a struggle for everybody. And
so I am really glad that Democrats are holding the line.
And I don't care how long the government has to
stay closed. Democrats cannot vote for something that is going
to make sure to take away access from folks.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Again, you have to hammer the point home, Eugene, and
that I think that's what they're doing, and clearly it's
having an impact on Republicans. And let's also be clear, Eugene,
Mike Johnson does not want to deal with the Jeffrey
Epstein issue.

Speaker 12 (18:42):
He doesn't want to deal with the scene.

Speaker 11 (18:43):
It's the reason they aren't seeding the member that was
nearly elected in Arizona because one more time her vote
would be I mean, her sign on to the distarted
position would be the last vote needed to actually force
a vote on it.

Speaker 12 (18:55):
But you got to keep in mind, one more time
it's shutdown.

Speaker 11 (18:58):
That's given them and their eyes are Republicans the opportunity
to do a lot of things they wanted to do.
When it comes to Obamacare subsidies, they wanted to go
to obamacares from the day of his past.

Speaker 12 (19:07):
And and what the public has understand is this right
these subsidies go away.

Speaker 11 (19:13):
A big swath of middle class America, folks that you know,
make a little bit too much for Medicaid but make
just a little too little to actually be able to
full out for private health insurance, are going to see
their healthcare insurance you know, uh crices double triple, maybe
in quadruple. You know, people forget what it was like
pre Obamacare, when healthcare, when health insurance companies could come

(19:36):
in and limit what services you got or didn't cover
presisting conditions or didn't you know, have to be forced
to cover this now in the a healthcare healthcare Bill
of rights, you know. So so the fight that the
Democrats are fighting is a good fight, and the public
needs stands strong behind them and Mike.

Speaker 12 (19:52):
And the thing is is Mike Johnson knows he's fighting
and losing fight.

Speaker 11 (19:55):
You know, he knows he knows that, you know, the
second that the government opens on the back up or
he brings a House back in a session that you know,
this Epstein issue will move forward, that's supposed to life
back on him and Donald Trump and others that have
you know, ran around with Mike Epstein, I mean with
with Epstein, with Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 12 (20:11):
Uh, you know, for the amount of times they're dead.

Speaker 11 (20:14):
And I also had to give a shout out to
Senate them because at the end of the day, right
even if Johnson brought the House back, you know, some
majority rules in the House, but it's the Senate rules
and Senate Democrats to the holden stead fast of those
rules that is holding Team Trump accountable right now on
his budget.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Look, it's the thing that we have to consistently look
at on the congo. And I'm going to tell you
right now. So you're Republicans who are like, oh, a
bump Affordable Care Act. It is too it's too expensive.
Premiums have gone up. It's not affordable. Okay, where's your
plan because you don't have one. Donald Trump promised one
for four years, never ever ever came up with one.

(20:54):
I mean you even got nutcase times when Marjorie Taylor
Green saying.

Speaker 13 (20:58):
We don't have a healthcare plan, yeah, yeah, what do
they say concepts of a plan like you said as
a debate, I mean, and even going back to US
first administration, like books talk in ten years overall here
they have no plan, have no alternatives, and they think
that they can just keep throwing out terms like oh,
their policies are socialists, their partictleans are radical. This make

(21:18):
sure they throw out every trigger word that they've been
using over the years, and eventually it runs out. Eventually
people realize that all you have is talk and bluster,
but no plan. They have no plan for anything. And
people who talked about Donald Trump won because he ran
on the economy and what he was going to do
for the economy and healthcare. The man ran on tariffs
and he ran on cutting taxes for the rich. That

(21:40):
those were his economic plans, and so for people hopefully
are finally waking up to realize that maybe those who
weren't involved in voting, maybe those Republicans and independent voters
who thought he was going to be their savior. If
y'all don't realize that these guys were all about nothing.
I mean, where's the healthcare plan? In Project twenty twenty five?
They got a damn thousand page document and where's the

(22:00):
health plan? And so these people have been frauds as
a relate to this from the beginning, and they're finally
being called out on it. And and Mike Johnson can
talk about call people Antifa this, and call people socialists
this and anti American that, but people know a fraud
when they see it. And Mike Johnson and the entire
Republican Party starting from Trump down, is being finally being
realized by others because we already knew that. You know,

(22:23):
the empire has no clothes and they have no plan.
And if y'all thought what was happening with OBAMACARELL is
going to be expensive. Look what's appouted to be happening
over these next few weeks and it's going to be
gameing over for Republicans hopefully.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Uh yeah, that's a question that we will see. All right, Folks,
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Speaker 14 (23:30):
Next week, on the Other side of Change, we are
talking about the government shut down and how it's impacting
our everyday lives, including our pocketbooks.

Speaker 15 (23:38):
These mothers are crazy as how they are willing to
shut down the entire government, the entire government to force
people to pay more in their healthcare to subsidize tax
breaks for the wealthiest people.

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Next on the Black Table with me Craig Calker. Now,
the America we live in today is not what the
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Independence and.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Even the Constitution.

Speaker 16 (24:12):
Professor and author Cermit Roosevelt will join us to talk
about his book The Nation That Never Was, How history
was misinterpreted the intended realities of America's beginnings and missed
a much better story in the process.

Speaker 17 (24:26):
So, if you have to pick some group to marginalize,
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I'm Resa Colbert, and you're watching the Black Star Network.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
The next month, voters in Houston's at Con Wresto District
will go to the polls to select a number of
folk who are running for back rusial position was vacated
when Congressman Sylvester Turner passed away earlier this year. He
had just been re elected. He had just been elected
to fill the position after the death of Congresswoman Sheila

(25:10):
Jackson Lee. There are a number of people who are
running for that position. That'll be talking through. Several of
the leading candidates this week. Joining us right now is
has County Attorney Christian Menifie. One of the candidates, Christians,
let to have you on the show again. Lots of
folks who are seeking this position of what is your
foremost priority if you were elected to leave the eighteenth

(25:32):
pre resident district, and we know obviously it's being Jerry Mander,
and so you've really been sitting in the position only
for a year, depending on the outcome of court court
rulings regarding this.

Speaker 18 (25:46):
My goal is to help make the Democratic Party into
an opposition party, not just the minority party. Time and again,
you look across this country and you're saying that folks
are calling out for fighters on the Democratic side, and
not just folks who fight cosmetically for cosmetic reasons, but
folks who fight and when.

Speaker 19 (26:01):
And that's exactly what I've done as Harris County Attorney.

Speaker 18 (26:04):
I've taken Greg Avett the court to defend our voting
rights and beat him, gone to court against Ken Paxton,
who is Donald Trump's favorite attorney general, and beat him
to ensure that we have clean air and clean water,
and this year beating the Trump administration in court multiple times.
And it's not about just litigating, but it's about using
the tools at your disposal to fight and win. And
that's exactly the type of time that I plan to

(26:25):
be on in Congress, ensuring that folks in Congress are
going to stand up and fight for each and every
person in our communities and not let Donald Trump run
redshot over our constitution and our laws.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Now, obviously that is we said the opposition party that's
national in scope of the reality is a member of
Congress is elected to represents the venire from seven hundred
and fifty thousand people. What is your priority for the
eighteenth Congressional District.

Speaker 18 (26:52):
I want my district to be one of the best
places to live and raise a family in all the
state of Texas. We have the highest number of folks
who are snappingifes, and despite that, the Trump administration and
the Republican majority in Congress are cutting snap benefits.

Speaker 19 (27:05):
Texas has the largest uninsured.

Speaker 18 (27:07):
Population in all the country, and we see that Republicans
are cutting Medicaid. I want folks in my community to
have health care, and that's why I'm the only candidate
in this race who supports Medicare for all.

Speaker 19 (27:17):
I want to make sure that our communities are beautiful.

Speaker 18 (27:19):
Right now, if you walk through many of the communities
in the eighteenth you see kids walking in the middle
of the street because there's no sidewalks, and they're not
walking to a grocery store. They're walking to a corner store,
because many of our communities have food deserts. So I
want to do everything I can to bring resources back
to my communities to make sure that people are retiring
at a reasonable age, that people have health care, that
our communities are beautiful, and that we're addressing environmental justice issues.

(27:42):
But you can't get any of that done if you
have somebody in the White House who's cutting the EPA
budget by sixty percent, who is eliminating the Environmental Justice
Department at the EPA, who is timing again across the
federal government, getting rid of the programs that help our
people thrive. And so that's why I plan to go
up there and do all I can to fight back
against the Trump and.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
In the church, obviously that's a huge part there. You
talked about improving the community. The other issue that obviously
jumps out for so many people's affordability. When it comes
to housing as well, you're priority there.

Speaker 18 (28:21):
I want more attainable housing, and I think the problem
is in this country we have an extreme shortage of
attainable housing. That's because in many many areas it is
far too hard to build. But there are many other
people in our community who just simply can't afford the
housing because they don't have the liquidity.

Speaker 19 (28:34):
If you look at my family, for example, we didn't
buy our first house until I was in high school.

Speaker 18 (28:38):
That's because my parents were able to put only five
hundred dollars down because of a VA down payment assistance program.
Former Vice President Kamala Harris championed a down payment assistance
program for folks across communities, and I want to stand
in the gap and do that exact.

Speaker 19 (28:52):
Kind of work as well.

Speaker 18 (28:53):
But we also have to go after the corporate landlords
who are coming in buying up properties across our communities,
jacking up the prices in some instances, putting multiple Airbnbs
in the neighborhood like mine, which didn't have any two
years ago and now has five or six, including one
that sleeps ten people. It's about ensuring that the housing
that goes in our community is the type of housing
that can be purchased by families who are looking for

(29:13):
their fair shot at the American dream, and not large
corporate landlords, or we're just going to run up the
prices and run people out of town.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Questions from my familis on MA Congo first.

Speaker 13 (29:26):
Wishing you the best of lapdown, mister man. If you
on your campaign, we're reading stories about the Department of
Education cutting the parts of the department that deal with
areas like special education and the life. What are your
plans as it relates to working with this administration, as
it relates to everything that they're doing to slash education,
which is going to affect your constituents if it's not already.

Speaker 19 (29:48):
There is no working with this administration on education.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
As you all know.

Speaker 18 (29:52):
They put the head of a professional wrestling organization in
charge of the Department of Education with no plan other
than to completely eliminate it.

Speaker 19 (30:01):
And that means something to me because I would not
be here. We're not for public education.

Speaker 18 (30:05):
I grew up in all public schools and had free
lunch in our public school system and played football, and
after I left football, thought that life was probably not
going to be much for me, but ultimately had a
teacher who cared enough about me to say, hey, you
can talk, well, you should join the debate team. Fast
forward and I became the youngest person in the first
African American to service Harris County Attorney. Our teachers should

(30:26):
be paid six figures, our schools should be palaces in Congress.
I plan to fight like hell to ensure that we're
bringing funding down for our Title I schools, wrap around services.
But here in the state of Texas, where we have
some of the lowest spending per pupil of any state
in the entire country, I have to do all I
can to help folks get elected across the state as well,
because we need to flip this state. That's where education

(30:49):
on the public side is funded at the state level.
So I do all I can to defend the public
the Department of Education at the federal level and to
get folks elected at the state level that's going to
better fund our public education system Texas.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Real data.

Speaker 9 (31:04):
Yeah, well, thank you so much for your campaign, particularly
the part where you talked about helping Democrats move closer
to being a true opposition party, because what many folks
don't realize is we've never actually seen a real opposition
party in this country to Republican leadership. So it makes
a difference, and so I really appreciate your sentiments on that.
If you can give us, tell me what are yours

(31:25):
When you talked about corporate landlords, what specific policies would
you support to reign in corporate landlords.

Speaker 19 (31:32):
I want to boost the CFPV.

Speaker 18 (31:34):
I want our federal agencies to be in a position
to go after folks who come to communities, who buy properties,
and who force folks out. I've been very active here
on the ground and ensuring that we're protecting the wealth
that black folks are getting in buying housing. So if
you look, for example here in the Harris County area,
across our communities, we had folks who were going in
and committing deed fraud. This is on a mass level,

(31:56):
stealing from mostly black and immigrant communities. They would go
in file fraudulent deeds and then be able to steal
homes out from under people. And we find a lowsuit
against those folk when we're able to get forty people
their home ownership restored. So you're saying it at a
macro level of people stealing homes out from under folks.
You're seeing a lot of these corporate landlords come in

(32:17):
by properties and then ultimately it changes the character of
the community. I plan to work with the city and
the county here locally to make sure that we're fighting gentrification,
that we're fighting folks coming in and buying up properties
and making it into an air being behaving. You've seen
some local governments that have banned that type of activity.
I believe that one of the jobs of a member
of Congress is to be a convenier and to come

(32:38):
in and solve people's problems. That's one of the things
that anybody who knew the late Congresswoman Shield Jackson Lee
would tell you is her job duties were not described
by a single statue.

Speaker 19 (32:47):
It was when people had a problem, you go in
to find a solution.

Speaker 18 (32:50):
I have been that person as the county Attorney in
Harrison County, doing whatever I can to find a solution
to an issue, and in Congress I will have a
bigger opportunity to be able to impact my community as well.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Eugene, what's your question? Well, great to.

Speaker 11 (33:07):
Meet you, mister Manife. Finally one of my great friends,
Teresa Jones supporting you. I guess my question is, I
know you know, look, you get elected in November, it's
still going to be in the minority with the Dems.
But come at post twenty twenty, t you know you
may very well see a speaker Jeffries and Dems in
the majority. So my question is you know, once Democrats
take the majority back, you know, what are your plans?

Speaker 12 (33:30):
And well, I guess not plans.

Speaker 11 (33:31):
More so, what would you like to see Democrats do
a sort to as certain Article one power and fully
restore you know, at least two co eco brands of
the government and recall back a lot of congressional power
that's mitiated. Because that's the only thing I really hold
an now control administration accountable is actual congressional authority.

Speaker 18 (33:50):
Yeah, so before we get a Democrat speaker, one of
the parts of the job is going to be working
across the out and I believe that that's something you
do at the interpersonal level, and I've done it many times.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Is kind of it.

Speaker 18 (34:00):
When we had a large corporation that was trying to
expand a landfill more deeply into a black community out here,
I teamed up with a Republican We filed soon and
we were able to.

Speaker 19 (34:08):
Block that from happening.

Speaker 18 (34:09):
When large cigarette companies were getting our kids hooked on
vaping out here in Texas, I teamed up with our
Republican Attorney general fil lawsuit was able to get tens
of millions of dollars back for mitigation programs to protect
kids against that type of deceptive marketing. So that will
be the job for the next year leading up into
Democrats winning the House back. But once we win the
House back, I think the name of the game is

(34:32):
the power of the Oversight Committee. That committee has the
ability to investigate just about anything in administration. And certainly
when you have a president who is spending dollars in
ways that were not congressionally appropriated, and a president who
was refusing to spend dollars in ways that were congressionally appropriated,
that's going to be where the power base of the
House of Representats will be. And as someone who has

(34:54):
been the county attorney, who has been a lawyer in
private practice for years before that, I think I'm well
equipped to do wellther And I want to be clear
it is in the legacy of the eighteen Congressional District
to do that kind of work. In the early seventies,
when the House Judiciary Committee was meeting over a break
in in the Watergale Hotel, they called on the gentle
lady from the eighteenth Congressional District of Texas is Barbara Jordan.

(35:15):
She gave one of the most phenomenal speeches you'll ever
hear in politics. And one of the things she said was,
I will not sit idly by to the subversion, to
the diminution, to the destruction of our constitution. You fast forward,
and that speech is part of the fabric that leads
to Richard Nixon resigning from the presidency. That power is
directly in the bloodline of the eighteen Congressional District of Texas.

(35:37):
So I look forward to continuing that work of holding
a corrupt president accountable. Richard Nixon was corrupt, but Donald
Trump has been former corrupt than we have ever seen
from any president in the history of this country. And
I look forward to working just as hard, if not harder,
to be able to ensure that he's held accountable.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
All right, then, Christian Minivie, which on the show, Gluck,
thank you very much, appreciate it. Thanks about Spoks going
to break, We come back New Orleans lection, Latina mayor there.
What's up with Louisiana losing all these black mayors. We
will talk about that. Also, we've got the Crocket Chronicles.

(36:19):
That's next right here. Roland Martin Unfultchen on the Black
Study Network.

Speaker 7 (36:24):
If in this country right now, you have people get
up in the morning and the only thing they can
think about is how many people they can hurt.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
And they've got the power. That's the time for morning,
for better or worse.

Speaker 20 (36:37):
What makes America special, it's that legal system that's supposed
to protect minorities from the tyranny of the majority.

Speaker 7 (36:45):
We are at a.

Speaker 21 (36:46):
Point of a moral emergency. We must raise a voice
of outrage. We must raise a voice of compassion.

Speaker 22 (36:56):
And we must raise a voice of unity.

Speaker 7 (37:00):
We are not in a crisis of party versus party.
We are in a crisis of civilization, a humans rights crisis,
and a crisis of democracy itself. And guess what. You've
been chosen to make sure that those that would destroy,
those that would hate, don't have the final say and

(37:22):
they don't ultimately win.

Speaker 10 (37:25):
What's up?

Speaker 23 (37:25):
Is she a girl Tamika d Mallory and you are
watching the Black Star Network.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Pose con I'm a Jasamine Crockett of the thirty Congression
District in Texas. Boys, she is always bringing the funk,
and she did that recently in a house hearing watch.

Speaker 23 (37:55):
They continue to say, trust us, these credits won't expire
until December.

Speaker 24 (38:03):
Just trust us.

Speaker 23 (38:05):
We will negotiate well, I have news for our colleagues
across the aisle. Trust must be earned, It is not given.
You see, President Trump sowre in on January twentieth, and
since then, Congressional Republicans have perpetuated in economic war on Americans.
They asked us to trust them on the price of eggs,

(38:26):
yet they've made it harder for Americans to buy any
and all groceries. They asked us to trust them when
it came to the cost of housing, but it's become
more difficult to pay your rent or mortgage. They asked
us to trust them when it came down to looking
out for the best interest of our children, Yet we
know that the cost to send your child to daycare

(38:48):
or college has only increased. The only thing that I
can tell you that we should trust the Republicans to
do is to basically.

Speaker 24 (38:58):
Play in our faces.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
You see.

Speaker 24 (39:01):
The one thing that we.

Speaker 23 (39:02):
Should do is distrust everything that they say. And that
is why Democrats are here today fighting. We showed up
to work because we understand that in this shutdown, we
are still getting paid. Unfortunately, those that work for the
federal government are not going to be paid. They are
about to miss their first checks and so it is
so interesting that someone can say, we're not going to

(39:25):
show up to work, We're not going to do everything
that we can to reopen.

Speaker 24 (39:29):
The government, but yes, you must show up.

Speaker 23 (39:32):
What I have to say to those hard working federal
employees and those that happen to be out sick right
now is that I anticipate that a lot of people
are going to catch a lot of colds in the
coming days, because it seems like the only thing that
these people will understand is if we have a real shutdown,
a shutdown in which the people that actually make this

(39:53):
country go start acting like the Republicans and they just
decide that they're also not going to sh or what
because at the end of the day, we have a
president who recently said that he doesn't know whether or
not he even wants to pay people when we.

Speaker 24 (40:07):
Do reopen this government.

Speaker 23 (40:10):
In just eight months, Republicans have shattered an already broken
public health system their one big ugly bill and acted
the largest cuts to health care in American history. Texas,
under Republican rule for over thirty years, already had the
highest uninsured rate in the country, and now an additional

(40:30):
one point six million Texans are projected to lose their
health insurance.

Speaker 24 (40:36):
But I want to be clear about this.

Speaker 23 (40:38):
This isn't just about those that will lose health insurance,
because at the end of the day, we all will
be impacted. Everyone's health care costs will go up, and
everyone may end up missing a hospital or a doctor
because of the reckless policies of the Republicans. Just in
my district, a sixty year old couple making eighty thousand

(40:59):
dollars a year see their premiums increase by nearly twenty
thousand dollars. A family of four making sixty four thousand
dollars a year will see an increase of two thousand,
five hundred and seventy one dollars, roughly one hundred and
ninety seven percent. Stripping away health care is just one
aspect of their economic and health care assault on Americans.

(41:20):
They've eliminated critical funding for local health departments and community
organizations during critical public health work. So we're here today
because Republicans have once again chosen to prioritize billionaires and
corporations over everyday americans, veterans, teachers, students, law enforcement officers,
members of the military, factory workers, bus drivers, all of

(41:43):
whom will be hurt by Republican health care assault on Americans.
I'm here today to speak for the ninety thousand people
in my district who will see an increase in their
health care cost and the millions of Texans who could
lose their coverage if we don't extend the tax credits.
And I wish that Republicans would put as much energy
into doing their jobs and protecting healthcare of their constituents

(42:05):
as they do into protecting Jeffrey Epstein and Galen Maxwell.
Maya Angelo said, when they show you who they are,
believe them the first time. The final point that I'll
make is that some people in this building know that
I have a best.

Speaker 24 (42:21):
Friend by the name of Marjorie Taylor Green.

Speaker 23 (42:24):
She even recently stated, I'm going to go against everyone
on this issue because when the tax credits expire this year,
my own adult children's insurance premiums for twenty twenty six
are going to double. Now, the fact that Marjorie and
I agree on anything tells you how bad this is America.

(42:47):
It is time to call your representatives, your Republican representatives.

Speaker 24 (42:50):
And tell them to show up and do their jobs.
Thank you, and I will you.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
So, you know, it's very interesting to me, O my
Congo when you have sports commentators who beer into politics
who want to chastise Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett as saying somehow
she is being too loud, abrasive, and ineffective, when clearly
that was not the case. She laid out a very
cogent argument there. I guess that's the difference between those

(43:21):
of us who actually followed her work supposed to those
who just run their mouths about her work.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Yeah, and Steven A.

Speaker 13 (43:31):
Smith has been running his mouth a lot, as he's
always running his mouth, and he just has a particular disdain,
it seems, for black women and black women who are
doing powerful things.

Speaker 12 (43:40):
And Steven A.

Speaker 13 (43:40):
Smith doesn't really even appear in black spaces like that
to be able to even have a comment. He needs
to leave her alone. He's spending all of this time
talking about you know, oh, she should invite the hand
that feeds her. You don't want to upset the boss.
Trump is not her boss. Her boss is her constituents.
And she's out there every single day fighting for them.
And I just heard a story over this weekend about

(44:02):
how she had to get fitted for a bulletproof vests
because of what she's dealing with, and people like steven
A Smith's of the world are making it worse for her.
So I continue to applaud what she's doing. I continue
to applaud the way she just shows up and does
her job. And she's got to deal with it from
the steven A Smith to the Laura Lumers of the world.
But luckily she knows that you and us and everybody

(44:23):
in our sphere have her back. But she shouldn't have
to be out there being targeted like this. But when
you're fighting for the people, when you're fighting for the truth,
you are going to get haters like that. And I'm
hoping that steven A. Smith has gotten enough blowback that
he will leave her alone. But I know she's probably
unfazed by it, but enough of us are pissed off
about it, but she needs to keep doing her thing.

(44:45):
We have her back, and yeah, she's like, yo, I'm
even out here in Green with Marjorie Taylor Green because
Jasmine Crockett is about the work of the people. And
it doesn't matter who is about who as our different
side of the party or political spectrum. If they're about
the people, she's going to be there, unlike Stephen A.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Smith. The thing that also is crazy to hear to me, Ernina,
is if you don't actually this is what happens life.
You don't understand a lot of people don't even understand
what the hell of member of Congress does. People don't
even know what the hell of state rep does or
a state senator. Don't really know what a council member does.

(45:23):
And I say this all the time, and so this
this notion that you got four and thirty five members
of the House one hundred in the United States Senate.
But there are so many different things that a member
of Congress works on, not only your constituent services, okay,
their job is to serve their constituencies, but also they

(45:44):
have committee assignments. And so that's that's that's the unsexy stuff.
That's the stuff nobody wants to talk about.

Speaker 7 (45:51):
Now.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
We show a lot of herd comments in hearings. Also
a congresswoman Summer League, a congresswoman a Leanna Presley. But
unless you are a c span you know, a nut,
you don't see this stuff. So I heard that it
was just to me, was just it's silly commentary for

(46:12):
Steven A. So I'm like, dude, you just don't even
know what the hell of them of Congress does, right, No, you.

Speaker 9 (46:19):
Could not be more right, Roland. People would call my
office all the time asking me to handle things that
are on the city level. People really do not understand
what their representatives do, and so for him to be
this loud and wrong is just amazing.

Speaker 10 (46:32):
But we already know this. Stephen A. Smith is somebody
who wakes up every.

Speaker 9 (46:35):
Day and tries to figure out how to be the
good black as white supremacists would say about black folks
who would make sure to shout down other black folks
who were poop pulling white supremacy. This is not the
first time that he has done this, and it really
doesn't know what he's talking about because from that clip,
and I didn't see the entire meeting, but and this
is kind of getting into the weeds. But from that

(46:56):
clip the way that it shot, it looks like she
is actually testified before some sort of committee meeting. So
she's actually doing extra work by what she's doing. And
I say that because usually when someone is testifying before
a committee or testifying in a meeting, that is that
they are not a part of that committee, or they
are not a part of the leadership of the committee,

(47:17):
or formally called to be at a committee, they sit
behind a desk like what she was seated behind, and
there are two other people next to you with the
little plaque of cards right in front. And so she's
actually doing extra work and Stephen is making comments about
how she needs to not be as loud. It is
her business as a representative to get involved and speak

(47:39):
up about anything that is going to affect her constituents.
And the really good reps, and I did this all
the time. The really good reps will speak about things
that not only affect their constituents, but also the entire nation,
the entire state, the things that affect everybody. So people
should just disregard what Steven is talking about. I think
this is just a continuation of him tossing around thinking

(48:00):
about running for president, trying to, you know, make nice
with people who will never support him.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
So were having a fire alum issue here. This actually
happened earlier. So I'm going to go to go to
Eugenie here, and Eugene, I hear people are good to
stopped this. I hear people Eugene complain all the time. Man,
the CBC, they ain't doing nothing. The CBC, they ain't
doing nothing. And I'm like, you don't even realize. And

(48:31):
I've said this before, Eugene. People don't even realize that
you can be a member and your name's not on
the bill, you're not even sponsoring the bill, but you
can insert language into a bill. You can insert things
into a bill that could lead to millions of dollars

(48:53):
for your constituents and others just by you slipping it
into a particular bill because you're on the committee. That's
the stuff that people don't understand. Happens every single day.
I mean, I remember when Biden Harris were there and
people were just like, oh my god, look at the
billions that Biden Harris are given an AHPBC years Well, actually,

(49:13):
Biden and Harris were not giving billions to HBCUs. That
money is that one was being appropriated through a subcommittee,
the House Education Subcommittee. Now, for the people who don't
understand politics, who don't even understand the United States Constitution,
any federal law that involves money must originate in the

(49:39):
House of Representatives. Let me say it again, it must
originate in the House. So Bobbie Scott of Virginia, Congressman
Body Scott of Virginia, my alpha brother was doing yeomen's work.
He was sitting here because he was a he was
a ranking chair. So again, let me just get some

(50:00):
people from politics one on one. You have the chair
that you have a ranking member. Well, at the time,
Democrats control the House, so Democrats control how the committee worked.
He was the chair of a subcommittee. He was the
one who was driving the money. And I remember I

(50:22):
wanted him to come on because people were out here
seeing stuff to get credity. He's like no, no, He's
like nah rong, Like listen, I'm good, I'm good. He said.
I'm trying to do as much as I can, as
fast as I can, because we don't know if how
long we're going to have this power. That's what I'm doing.

(50:42):
So if you right now, if you black around America,
you like broad, who the hell is that? I ain't
never heard of?

Speaker 7 (50:51):
You know why?

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Because you don't see congress and Bobby Scott on the
view and let me view a clerk. I'm not shading
Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. But what I'm making is there are
political figures who are highly effective, who serve different purposes.
So there are people who are quiet, they get the
work done. There are others who are parmer vocal like Consonwan,

(51:14):
Jasmin Crockett and let me say this here, and steven
A has no idea even we're about to tell you
right now. According to Black Pack, and we had the
aid shopshot on the show, and I wish they would
have released the actual data, the approval ratings of Jasmin
comsonan Jasmin Crockett among black people are on the level
of Obama. So I think black people have spoken. And

(51:38):
steven A might want to look at the Blackpack poll,
so I would encourage him to actually book Adrian Shropshire,
who is the director of Blackpack book Cornell Belcher a
poster book. Terrence would berry a poster if he wants
to understand why jas Rocket regulates. And last point, Eugene,

(52:02):
I've had black Republicans, I've had other Republicans, white Problics
tell me the Republican Party, why do they hate jasmccrockett.
This was a quote, Eugene, because she's effective.

Speaker 12 (52:16):
Yeh, Look, it's the thing, right, So it's a lot
to unpack there.

Speaker 11 (52:20):
First and foremost, I don't Stephen a Bitch to ever
for any of those people because they don't fit his
audience or the people that support his show. Secondly, you
have a friend, Mayor Harris, that coined the term for
I'm going to edit it for this show, sassy Man Apocalypse.
You know, he's the epitome of that.

Speaker 12 (52:38):
You know, he takes his.

Speaker 11 (52:39):
Time on his podcast to drag black black women in
politics when he lets him like a Christy nome of
you know, our modern day Sarah Palin's, you know, our
Margie Taylor Green's. And then let's not forget he just
lets the men skate on them, buy right, no matter
how much damage they do. But this is the thing,
I'm glad you gave that breakdown of how Congress is

(53:00):
actually works, how things actually get done in the committee system,
and you know are sung and unsung hero and Congress
from Bobby Scott because hey, guess what, the people that
are watching are listening to that Steven a Bitch podcast
are not going to get that kind of information, but
they will absolutely get it here on the Blackstar Network
because hey, you know, we're here doing a good, published

(53:20):
public good and service for our community. Now what people
have to understand is absolutely there are different roles for
different people in this process, you know. And this is
where I kind of hate how, you know, as a Republican,
how the Democrat Party handle Jasmine Crocket, Because hey, you
will have her fly around the country to raise money
for your candidates. You will attach her name to your
fundraising letters, you will have your state party's book around.

(53:43):
You will have her, you know, exhaust herself for the cause,
but then not give her the manner of leadership that
she deserves to help further that cause the way that
she sees been on using her own talents. But the
thing is this, right, everybody has their role because you know,
she she does have the skyrocket sky high approve. Randy
and Republicans are absolutely terrified over I think, you know,

(54:04):
a Ted Cruise, you know, they decide to to mess
with her district.

Speaker 12 (54:07):
A Ted Cruise should probably be terrified that.

Speaker 11 (54:09):
She may jump into that center race or or Governor
hot Wills should be terrified that she may take him on.
But I think she may be the one that I
stually could push Texas over that, over that hump, over that, over.

Speaker 12 (54:19):
That hump, finally.

Speaker 11 (54:21):
But my thing is this, at the end of the day,
this is why black owned media matters, right, this is
why the Black Star Network matters, why other black owned,
black centered, black focused, black audience.

Speaker 12 (54:31):
Target media matters.

Speaker 11 (54:33):
Because when you have people like Stephen, a bitch that
you know, can just buy namesake, you know, and I'll
take on this on that.

Speaker 12 (54:44):
Right, I can just walk on.

Speaker 25 (54:46):
No, no, here's my deal, here's my deal.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
I don't. First of all, this is important.

Speaker 12 (54:53):
This is important, This is important, this is important.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Come on, come on, wrap it up, wrap it up.

Speaker 12 (54:57):
The thing is this, when, when?

Speaker 1 (54:59):
When? When? When? Why?

Speaker 11 (55:00):
The establishments start handing out the kind of funding and
support for people to expouse you know, literal uh misinformation.
It's important for networks like this to exist so that
actual truth is there and people are informed that that
so that was that that that dividend you know, takes
place and people have the information to actually make informed
decisions they go into the voting booth. That's what this

(55:21):
comes down to.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
I mean, love love. My position very simple. I don't
for me, I don't waste time with name call them.
I don't need to. I believe in facts. I believe
in facts. I believe people need to understand and too
many people have no understanding of fects. I believe it's
our responsibility, it's journalists to speak to facts. And so
the problem is when you do not have facts about

(55:48):
a person and what their role is, then you're just
spouting and saying things that to me and I'll see
that that, to me was the problem that I had
which these commentary. It wasn't fact base, and he didn't
have an understanding of what her role is, what her
job is, and what she does on a daily basis. Again,

(56:13):
and the reason I can speak to this because I
am registered in the thirtieth congressional district. I vote in
the thirtieth congressional district. And what people don't understand is
members of Congress. They're four hundred and thirty five House members.

(56:37):
They represent districts that make up between seven hundred and
fifty and eight hundred and fifty thousand people. That's all reality.
They run the reelection every two years. What is the
most important job of a member of Congress. I'm gonna
say it again, what is the most important job? Renee?

(57:00):
You're on a state level, you know exactly what that is.
It's called constituent services. Let me be clear, if you
want a guaranteed way to lose your job, you can
have a horrible constituent services reputation. That is what the

(57:23):
job is, and that's what people don't get. There are
people who live in there are people who live and
work in congressional districts who say I need this from
my member of Congress and then go to them. And
that person's job is to then try to work within
the system where the rules or whatever the hell what

(57:45):
their job is, y'all. Now, when you talk about when
you talk about what Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett does when she
is testifying and when she is doing it her way,
I would say to Steven A, please tell me the
difference between a Jim Jordan, a Tim Burchett, a Rand Paul.

(58:10):
I mean, I could go on and on and on.
So also squeaky Wheel gets the most grease. And the
fact of the matter is, I know this'd be my
last point, my last point. Then again, if you understand facts,
why why does MSNBC shows and CNN shows and trust me,

(58:35):
Fox News would love for Jasmin Crockett to come on,
But why do these networks constantly book Congresswoman Crockett because
she rates Stephen as always talking about how will he
does at ESPN and how he rates. That's why she

(58:56):
gets booked, because people watch, people listen, and there are
people in this country Republicans who even say, hey, I
disagree with her in policy, but I like that she's
a fire. So I just wish people when they start
running their mouths about who ain't doing what they doing,
check your facts. Check your facts so you understand what

(59:21):
the job requires. Quick break, we come back. We'll talk
about New Orleans electing Latina mayor. Black majority city joins
a number of Louisiana cities that don't have black mayors.
What's some of black politics in Louisiana. You're watching rolling
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We are at a point of a moral emergency. We
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Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Folks, you ever say that protests does not work. The
Mississippi Department of Environmental Quality has denied a UK company's
request to increase pollution at its plant in a town
of Mississippi more than one hundred dollars from Hettesburg. Residents
of Gloucester are concerned that dragt siks to be reclassified

(01:03:58):
as a major polluter, which could lead to the release
of more toxes in the air, particularly increasing the health
risk for the community. Now, this company, drafts dr Ax,
has an extensive history of violations, and in an uncommon decision,
the permit board voted against their application. For the company

(01:04:20):
still wants to add more pollution to the area. Jonas
right now is Crystal Martin from the Greater Greener Gloucester Project.
Crystal Glad you can jon us right now. So the
facility that First of all, what has been the impact
of this company when it comes to the pollution and

(01:04:40):
the air quality in that town and in the state.

Speaker 28 (01:04:46):
Yes, the impact that we are currently seeing in Gloucester
is major health impacts. A lot of residents in our
community are suffering from breathing issues, upper respiratory issues including
PEPs any people passing away from lung cancer, residents being
diagnosed with COPD.

Speaker 24 (01:05:06):
A number of our.

Speaker 28 (01:05:08):
Residents our own oxygen and they have to use this
oxygen twenty four to seven. So we're just seeing a
lot of health impacts right now in the community. There's
dust everywhere, and then we have noise twenty four to
seven coming from that plant.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Now, have y'all had analysis done of the air quality
in your area compared to other areas of the towns
around you.

Speaker 28 (01:05:40):
We've not had the opportunity to really analyze our air.
We started our working with the EPA before it was
dismailt to and we were in the process of applying
for some of the hour A funds so that we
could continue to analyze the air we reach out to

(01:06:01):
when DRAX was first find two point five million dollars,
and one of the questions that I had for the
director was, are you going to invest some of that
money back into our community so that we can begin
to analyze our air, so that we can have an
air monitor local in our community, because if we're dealing
with air quality issues, then we need to be able

(01:06:23):
to analyze our air in our own community. But we
don't have access, nor do we have an air monitor
even in the vicinity of our community. So right now
we are having issues being able to monitor our air.
We need, you know, we need resources to be able
to invest in our own air monitor.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
So this is the perfect example of what we've often
talked about the racist action of the Trump administration by
them slashing the slashing the EPA, declaring settlements and other
deals as old as DEI. They don't care about the
lives of black people. They claim to be pro life,
but they actually do not care. And so even when

(01:07:09):
you had efforts by the Biden Harris EPA to change
these historical issues, Trump comes along and allows these companies
do whatever they want to and that's why, first of all,
they were surprising that Mississippi has denied this permit because
I mean, in many of these red states, they let

(01:07:31):
companies do whatever the hell they want to do.

Speaker 28 (01:07:35):
Yes, but we've been fighting back because a number of
a residents are sick.

Speaker 24 (01:07:41):
So I mean we're pushing back. I tell people all
the time, I left my career.

Speaker 28 (01:07:47):
I worked in higher education, and I left my career
because I was determined that I wanted to fight back,
you know, be a voice for my community.

Speaker 24 (01:07:56):
My mom is dealing with a lot of breathing issues,
and likewise.

Speaker 28 (01:07:59):
So many people in our community are suffering from these
from you know, the pollution that's in our air, and
so I was determined I was going to fight back
like and that's what we're doing. I'm here tonight joined
by other communities all across the US South who are

(01:08:19):
also impacted by wood pillart industry, and tomorrow we intend
to stand up. We're gonna stand in solidarity and we're
going to push back against the decision that md EQ
has made. We are asking them to uphold their decision
that they made back in April, like do not change dracts.

(01:08:41):
This permit needs to be differ. Too many people are suffering.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
So Christal, you're saying that they're having another hearing what
they may reconsider the denial of that permit. That's taking place.

Speaker 28 (01:08:54):
Tomorrow tomorrow morning. Tomorrow morning, m d e Q at
nine a m. Yes, Drags didn't appeal and so we
have the hearing tomorrow. About seven of us from my community.
We'll be given testimony tomorrow. We are being represented by
attorneys from Earth Justice.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
All right, well, look this is something that Look it's
a real deal. It's substantial. We see these things happening
across the country and unfortunately, the federal government has completely
abandoned communities, especially black and brown communities, in their haste
to attack DEI. They're just willing allowing black and brown

(01:09:41):
communities to be impacted negatively by environmental concerns. They don't
care the cals about it, and it's shameful that that
is the case. So that's why whenever they open the
mouths and claim they're pro life, I'm like, no, you're not.
Your anti abortion, you're not pro life because if you
don't care about the air quality of people and you're
seeing people are dying, not that where you are, but
in Alabama. But they got rid of a settlement regarding

(01:10:05):
the back of a sewage in Lownes County. You've got
to get a lawsuit. They pulled out of the lawsuit
against chemical companies in Cancer Alley in Louisiana. That again,
that was killing black people. And this is power for
the course for these maggots in Washington.

Speaker 12 (01:10:21):
DC, Roland.

Speaker 28 (01:10:23):
One of the things that we know when we were
working with the e PA, we learned that in Gloucesoon, Mississippi,
our health impacts are worse than Cancer Alley. But we're
a small black rural community and so of course nobody
ever you know, noticed this rural communities and so we're
just here to tell the story. We appreciate this opportunity.

(01:10:44):
We are going to fight back. We're going to push
back because too many of our residents continue to be sick,
too many are dying. We're seeing the young people, a
young girl under the age of nine has already started
her minstreul and having to take hormone shots.

Speaker 24 (01:10:59):
Something is wrong.

Speaker 28 (01:11:01):
It's not normal for these communities like ours to have
these type of health impacts. And we're going to continue
to push back. We appreciate this opportunity. You do not
know how much we appreciate this opportunity to tell our story.
We're going to continue to shine the light. And tonight
I'm super super excited to be joined by communities from Alabama,

(01:11:22):
from Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina.

Speaker 24 (01:11:25):
We're standing up against this biomass industry.

Speaker 28 (01:11:28):
We're saying enough is enough, and we want to hold
DRAGS accountable and we're asking MDQ to deny that permit,
deny the permit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Well again, so let's folks know it's taking place tomorrow
at nine a m. Eastern. And is there going to
be a live stream somewhere, a live feed somewhere that's happening.

Speaker 12 (01:11:53):
Are we live streaming?

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 19 (01:11:55):
I don't think we're going to be live streaming tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
But well, well hopefully, well hopefully said again, A am
getting a rally sit again.

Speaker 28 (01:12:07):
You're having a rally eight at eight ah in front
of m d e Q on a Mint Street in Jackson, Mississippi.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Central time. Eight A all right there, eight am Central,
nine am eastern. All right, Crystal, well, good luck with it.
Keep us abreast of what happens. Thank you so much,
thank you, thanks a bunch. You know, Renetta at the
point she makes there, uh, you know black rural towns.

(01:12:38):
You know, for all the talk about Republicans and rural America,
whenever we see here Republicans say rule America, they mean
white people. They don't mean Black people like Chrystal. They
don't mean people living in Gloucester, Mississippi. They don't care. Uh.
And and and this to me and and just the
wholesale destruction of the e p A, the attack on

(01:12:59):
d E I grant to all of that craft. That
was a specific effort to target black people. And this
is why I've been saying their whole goal is to
defund Black America.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:13:13):
But it's also true that Republicans don't really care about
race as it relates to the rural area. They don't
care about amals people, They don't care about white people
in the rural areas. Because you have seen decade after
decade after decade. I mean, you can go even as
far back as Reagan when they started to decide that
companies had the right to do their production at whatever
costs and whatever that meant for the environmental effects on communities,

(01:13:34):
all of that was completely put to the side and
could not be as important. Just to show you how
these people think. One day I was in a committee
meeting and we were having a somebody had presented a bill,
a Democrat that presented a bill to say that large trucks,
these semi trucks, could not go through residential neighborhoods. And
I had the chair of the committee looked me in

(01:13:54):
the eye and said, listen, you can't mess with business.
And so for that reason, the bill would not move forward.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
My bill.

Speaker 10 (01:14:00):
But I was on the committee.

Speaker 9 (01:14:01):
And so for these people, the mindset that they have
is whatever the cost is of doing business, that is
always going to supersede whatever is good for the public.
And that includes even on their own constituents. And like
you said, now, with the gutting of the EPA, the
only thing that has changed now is it will be
harder to track the pollution and the environmental harms that
come to the public. But Republicans have always stood firm

(01:14:24):
on it being not a priority of THEIRS to reduce
environmental harm to communities.

Speaker 10 (01:14:29):
That's been consistent.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Absolutely, and I mean, listen, the environmental issue on the
CONGO is real, and it is so awful and unfortunately, unfortunately,
you know, too many folks just you know this, Republicans
refused to deal with it. You saw under Michael Reagan

(01:14:53):
a very aggressive effort by the EPA to address environmental racism,
environmental justice, and these MAGA folks just do not care.
They don't give a damn. And if these black people
they go up, that's the EI, yep.

Speaker 13 (01:15:11):
And they're not going to care until they have to care.
And that's one of the powerful things about this story.
We never see stories across this country on these news
outlets about what people who are black and rural communities
are dealing with, with the exception of here. And when
Trump is talking about, oh, we're going to cut programs,
and oh, Democrat programs, Democrat programs. Environmental issues affect every community.

(01:15:31):
It's just a matter of time before it comes to
communities that may not be affected in the moment. And
so these Republicans, these Trump supporters, these folks in farm
country and everything who who are royal and white, they
need to be getting down with these programs and the
way that they let themselves continually be divided by a person,
by a government, as Rinita said, who doesn't give a
damn about them, Who wouldn't let them roll up in

(01:15:52):
mart Lago to call the cops on them. The way
that they continue to be suckered by this, their health
outcomes are going to be affected, their education outcomes are
being affected, their insurance outcomes of being affected. Run down
the list. There's not a single benefit that white folks
in rural America have received from this administration. So just

(01:16:13):
like Fred Hampton was doing back in the day, you know,
white farmer, white folks in Royal America, black folks in
rural America, they need to be coming together and fighting
this stuff now before it's too late. And I applaud
this community in a red state to be able to
go hard like that, to fight for their people. She
talked about that nine year old. We need more of that,
and we need more people to be covering this. But
these these rural folks who are who are part of

(01:16:35):
the white rural community, if they don't if they're not
going to get it now, it may already be too late. Roland,
and I hope that I'm wrong about.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
That, Eugene.

Speaker 11 (01:16:46):
You know, I'm not sure to disagree with my co
panelists here it's actually when these things start hitting white
America that people decide to do something right. You know,
we go back and we look at the last decade
decade and a half, and you know, for a long
time when you know, drugs, different drug apademics, you know,
affective black and brown committees, communities, you.

Speaker 12 (01:17:07):
Know, elected officials to get didn't give give a hell
about it.

Speaker 11 (01:17:11):
The second wife folk, you know, the pills, you know,
the heroine, the fentanyl started hitting their communities. Then it became, oh,
we need to soften up on drugs. Oh now, we
need to prioritize treatment over incarceration, you know, even going
to uh, you know, the environmental issues, right. You know,
Joe Mansion eventually came around to the effects of black

(01:17:33):
lung and fought tooth and nail for you know, his
constituents that you know, he sold out for decades. But
I do think this, I do think it is beautiful
to see uh, you know, black leaders standing up for
black environmental justice. You know, I at one point in
time worked for the e p A. Me and Ustafa,

(01:17:54):
you know, joke about that from time to time. But
the thing is this, right, environmental justice is economic justice
for black Americans. You know, when we are dealing with
cancer clusters from you know, substance power substations and power lines,
when we're dealing with pollution, whether there be water or

(01:18:14):
air or smog. You know, these are things that literally
affect the health of people. And you know, I'm glad
that you know that local state governments are doing what
they need to to protect people, but I think there's
still more that can be done.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Absolutely, our folks. Louisiana Helena Marino is the new mayor
of New Orleans. She beat to black lifted officials Oliver
Thomas roaster Pless's on Saturday. She took a majority of
the vote had she been under fifty percent, with being
a runoff, and the numbers were very stark. Eighty percent

(01:18:54):
of white voters in New Orleans voted for her, seventy
percent of Black voters voted against her went for Thomas
or Duplessis. Reality is they split the black vote, allowing
her to be and again allowing her to dominate a
black voter. She becomes, of course, the first Latina UH
mayor female mayor in New Orleans history. She is going

(01:19:16):
to be following u LaToya Cantrell. Of course, his term
limited has also been uh indicted there as well. One
of the things that I thought was quite interesting is
that's very interesting is Gary Chambers posted this and he

(01:19:38):
said something I thought was quite interesting uh that was
taking place there Nita that he said that this is
what has happened in Louisiana. In Louisiana, he said, Louisiana
is the second blackest state in America. Yet we've now

(01:19:59):
lost black mayors in shreport Alexandria Monroe, Baton Rouge, and
now New Orleans. Only Lake Charles will have a black
mayor in twenty twenty six among our largest majority black cities.
Your thoughts, well, I.

Speaker 10 (01:20:21):
Mean, there's a lot that goes into it.

Speaker 9 (01:20:23):
I understand why he is pointing that out, and it's
very it's good that he's specifically pointing that out. Some
of it that comes to the top of my mind
about why you will continue to see phenomenons like this
is because the level of support that goes into supporting
black candidates as it relates to I'll say, the Democratic
Party is not nearly what it looks like when it

(01:20:45):
comes to support when when white candidates are running. So
when white Democrats run, so you have less support, you have,
less of sort of lifting up of black candidates. I
do know Senator Duplessis who was in the mayor race,
and I can tell you he did run a good campaign.
But there are a lot of things that go into
the lack of support that black candidates get, and it's

(01:21:07):
starting to show up in these mayoral elections. And it's
not just the party that refuses to support black candidates
as they run for these seats. It's also what also
looks like is less media coverage for black candidates. It's
less of everything for black candidates, so they are never
playing on an equal playing field, and what usually tends
to happen is unless they receive more support than what

(01:21:27):
a traditional candidate would need, you're going to see them
not do well in the election. I also think that
the prior administration, Mayor Cantrell, that administration ended in a
very I mean, it was a very scandalous way, just
to put it mildly. There were many, many, many things
that were going on in the administration that were terrible

(01:21:48):
for the city. And so you had, I'm sure a
lack of you had probably sort of a depression amongst
black voters that that administration contributed to because of all
of the things that folks in New Orleans is found
out as an administration left office.

Speaker 10 (01:22:03):
So it's kind of not surprising.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
Unfortunately, I'm gonna say this again and I've said this routine,
Lead Eugene, that what we're also seeing is we are
seeing the disappearance of the these black the black political
infrastructure that was in place in a lot of these towns,

(01:22:26):
a lot of these cities. And when that infrastructure, when that,
when those machines begin to disappear, you're going to see
the results. So those things have to be replaced. Those
things have to be rebuilt. Uh, if we want to
talk about holding onto black political.

Speaker 12 (01:22:49):
Power, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 11 (01:22:54):
The consultant, I mean, you know, wants to do an
autopsy in mongoltops and Mongol thompsy to figure out exactly
what's going on on it.

Speaker 12 (01:23:02):
But it does go back to the machine is eroding.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:23:07):
It's like an actual physical machine sitting in a river.
If you don't continue to like replace the machine, replace
the parts of the machine, the river will eventually corrode
it out. And that's what's happening now. I think, you know,
there's a couple of different factors. I think there are
some people sitting office way too long. I think there
people are just not engaging anymore. But at the end
of the day, you know, when you don't elect people

(01:23:28):
that explicitly represent your interests, you're balancing the results of it.
And that's what we're seeing, not just in Louisiana, but
across the country.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:23:37):
We saw with Char Char Jones, you know, and these
machines that you know, you know, it's hey, you know,
it's celibratory. Once you could get that person liked over
the humping them, but you got to maintain the machine
to make sure the person survives through and then be
able to pass the torch on to the next person.

Speaker 12 (01:23:54):
And then that's what we're dealing with, all.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Right, folks. Last story here that is attorneys Ben Crumb
Harry Daniels have been retained by Jacksonville mother who was
in a vicious encounter with a police officer at a school.
Watched this video.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
You coming something now, you don't watch me, do.

Speaker 7 (01:24:33):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
You got somebody.

Speaker 29 (01:25:00):
There she's going to you. Okay, got it. That's the devil.

(01:25:24):
That's the devil. That police I was devil.

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
Okay, that's the devil.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Hey, I got I got to leave his own when.

Speaker 25 (01:25:45):
A man.

Speaker 29 (01:25:47):
Really you email? All right?

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
This arrest of third nine year old Erica McGriff that
was capture it by a bystander and she was arrested
for supposedly leaving her car illegally parked and unattended. Now
this that was a bystander video. Now here's the actual
bodycam footage. You can see what took place from beginning

(01:26:20):
to what you just saw there. And what are you doing?

Speaker 29 (01:26:27):
What are you doing?

Speaker 30 (01:26:28):
I lead your license? Need your license?

Speaker 29 (01:26:32):
That's your car. I just saw you get on the car.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
That's not my car.

Speaker 29 (01:26:36):
Okay, wait, hey you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
Student, that's not doing Please do you want to go?

Speaker 24 (01:26:45):
I did not do anything wrong.

Speaker 29 (01:26:48):
I did not do anything an attended to get a ticket.

Speaker 24 (01:26:52):
I'm the passenger.

Speaker 31 (01:26:52):
You can get it to the school. The drivers get
a ticket.

Speaker 29 (01:26:56):
I would listen.

Speaker 31 (01:26:56):
You can get a ticket or you can keep playing.

Speaker 29 (01:26:59):
I'm a give you one chance.

Speaker 30 (01:27:00):
You cream the drama.

Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
I don't want to drama.

Speaker 31 (01:27:03):
And okay then my child, okay, making this way? Mon sorry,
letting me know you're hurting my neck.

Speaker 24 (01:27:14):
No, I'm going back to my car.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
Lett me money.

Speaker 30 (01:27:17):
I mean you're you're making the big.

Speaker 25 (01:27:20):
Don't know what you're doing.

Speaker 31 (01:27:21):
Take me to my dog doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
I will, I will, I will, I will.

Speaker 31 (01:27:24):
You don't have to curse me.

Speaker 29 (01:27:25):
I will let him.

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Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
It's a lot in y'all have heard me say this
numerous times about the job is to de escalate. So
here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna replay the body
cam footage. But I want y'all to pay attention to
the first sixty seconds. I want y'all to pay attention

(01:32:43):
to the tone of the officer when he gets out
of the car, he approaches the woman and what he says,
play it.

Speaker 31 (01:32:55):
And where you going?

Speaker 30 (01:33:00):
I need your license? Need your license?

Speaker 29 (01:33:04):
Talk about that's your car. I just saw you get
on the car.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
That's not my car.

Speaker 29 (01:33:08):
Okay, wait, hey.

Speaker 28 (01:33:13):
Student, that's not doing to please I'm not Do you
want to go jesse me, I did not do anything wrong.

Speaker 25 (01:33:20):
I did not do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Attendance stop. I want y'all. I need y'all to pay attention. Hey,
I saw you got out of the car. She says,
that's not my car. He then goes, I need your license?

(01:33:45):
Do you want to go to jail? Right there? Why
are we starting there. I have repeatedly said yeah. At
the fundamental problem with these cops is he got out

(01:34:05):
of the car at a seven and he escalated to
a t don't play it again, and I'm gonna show
you how the cops should have responded when he approached
the woman, get a ticket.

Speaker 31 (01:34:28):
You can get it. Went to the school the drivers
that you will get a ticket. I would listen, you
can get a ticket or you can keep playing. I'm
gonna give you one chance. Cream the dram.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Who you're doing? What are you doing?

Speaker 30 (01:34:46):
I'll lead your license. LE need your license.

Speaker 29 (01:34:50):
That's your car. I just saw you get on the car.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
That's not my car.

Speaker 29 (01:34:53):
Okay, wait hey.

Speaker 26 (01:34:58):
The student that's not doing Please, I'm not attaching me.

Speaker 24 (01:35:02):
I did not do anything wrong.

Speaker 17 (01:35:05):
I did not do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
Stop right there. So he said, do you want to
go to jail? Later he goes ticket or jail. This
is what the cops should have done this, Deputy sheriff.
He should have said, ma'am, I need you to take
a breath. Ma'am, I need you to calm down. It

(01:35:34):
she sir, ma'am, I need you to calm down, ma'am.
I can't. I need to get verification. So, ma'am, I
know you're standing here with your daughter. I don't want
to frighten your daughter, but I need you to breathe

(01:35:56):
and calm down. Are you ready now to talk to me? Okay? So, ma'am,
I saw you get out of the car. The car
is unattended and it's illegally parked. That's a violation. I

(01:36:19):
can ticket you for that. Now you say, that's not
your car? Okay? Whose car is that? Where is that
particular person? Did you come here with them? See? That's all.
Here's the thing. Whether we're talking, I don't care what scenario.

(01:36:43):
Tone matters, the approach that you take matters. This cop
gets out of the car on seven, he escalates to nine,
he escalates to ten. He's dealing with a clearly agitated person.
So when you do that, your job is to bring
it down. He didn't do that, and so it escalated.

(01:37:06):
Now he goes, she bit me. If you actually we
played the whole six minutes, if you listen to it,
the bike didn't come till about the four to four
and a half mark. He had his hand, he had
his knee on her back, on her neck. He got
a uber aggressive over an unattended, illegally parked vehicle. Y'all,

(01:37:35):
that's a ticket. That's a ticket. He immediately went to jail.
On my congo, he immediately went to jail. I need
to see your license. You want to go to jail?
Hold up later by thirst second later he goes ticket

(01:37:58):
or jail ticket. First of all, why are we even
saying jail? Why is it a part? This is what
I continue to say, the fundamental problem we have in
this country. We have cops, deputy shares or whatever who
they refuse to de escalate basic situations on the congo.

Speaker 13 (01:38:22):
Yeah, and I don't think there's anything she could have
said or done to prevent what happened. And when I
saw this video over the weekend, it just started with
the part where she went down to the ground. And
you know, everybody's always saying, well, what happened beforehand? What
happened beforehand? Maybe this maybe that we've seen this play
full out and one of the things Roland, we'll also have,
you know, these maga folks who are joining the police force.

(01:38:45):
I feel like I saw his dad has left arm
bracelet was an upside down flag, not exactly sure of
some other point and that just kind of just made
me think that this is possibly one of those maga
cops that are just looking out there for a beaten
and just wants to traumat an entire community. And look
at all those children, all those children who have to
see that, And so I think that this man got

(01:39:07):
out there looking for a confrontation, and he got out
there looking to make an example. And this woman is
screaming and helping, and I feel like this was an
intention the entire time, and that looking at her daughter
had to put her arm in front of her to
try to protect her. This is the damage that they want,
and they know that this type of issue is going
to ripple across the country. People are saying that, you know,
these guys are not doing their job. I feel like

(01:39:29):
these guys are doing exactly what they think their job is,
and that's to terrorize our community. And that's what that
cop did right there. And he didn't just do it
for that group right there, He did it for the
entire country. And I would really like to know if
that was an upside down bracelet on his rest American flag.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
It just makes those sense to me, Nina, Why you're
a cop and you can't de escalate. I don't understand
why this is hard.

Speaker 9 (01:39:56):
Now, listen, he didn't need to do breathing exercises with her,
He needed to do them with himself, because she was
not even escalated, and she gave him all of the
information that he needed to know. She said, I was
in the passenger seat. The owner of the car went
into the school. So she told him who actually owned
the car.

Speaker 10 (01:40:13):
What he should have.

Speaker 9 (01:40:14):
Done, was said, can you call the person who's in
school and let them know they have they have ten
minutes to move this car or five minutes or whatever.

Speaker 10 (01:40:21):
I'm wanting to give them a ticket.

Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
But the reason, the reason I laid out just ridicula,
the reason I lay out to Britain, the reason I
laid the breathed, the reason I lay out of breathing
because she was agitated. Sure, sir, again again, that's what
that moment we say, ma'am.

Speaker 9 (01:40:45):
She was not too agitated that she could not get
the information that he needed she gave him.

Speaker 10 (01:40:49):
Then, No, no, no, no, no, no no no no
no what escalated?

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
No, No.

Speaker 10 (01:40:52):
What I'm saying is she wasn't to understand what she
was saying.

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
He needed to do those breathing as well. She wasn't right,
She wasn't on a right But what I'm making is
the cop has to approach the police officer, the police
officer's tone, the police officer has the bandge, the police
officer has done, the police officer has the power. And

(01:41:17):
what I'm saying is when I saw the video, when
I heard her, I heard an agitated woman. What I'm
saying is what the cops job should be is bring
it here. I want to have a conversation. Yes and so.
Now so you say I saw you out of the car.

Speaker 10 (01:41:38):
But what I'm saying is it's not his job. No, no,
I she was, but let me finish. He did not
need to go over any of that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
Actually I disagree with it. Is no, no, no, no,
I disagree.

Speaker 9 (01:41:51):
What I'm saying is it is not a requirement for
folks who have not been sworn into the police department
or the general public to not be worked up when
a cop approaches them, particularly a black person who has
seen how these.

Speaker 10 (01:42:01):
Things go down.

Speaker 9 (01:42:02):
This woman was not right, and that's not get information.
He was the one who escalated it. No no, but
that really frazzled until he mentioned you're going to jail.
You're getting a ticket. He escalated that, No, no.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
No, no, I did no the reason I disagree, I disagree,
I disagree. I mean rolled from the top again, the
videcam footage again. I'm saying, I'm laying out how I'm
laying out how I believe police officers should be approaching something.
They police officers have to be for me, even more

(01:42:34):
sensitive to yes, a power person. They react to a
police officer again, they are setting the tone how he
got out of the car immediately, how he got out
of the car, and how he charged her then caused
her to go here. I'm saying, what the cops have
to do, and these these police chiefs in these shares

(01:42:58):
got to learn, train these people, and some of the
people should not be should not be on forces. It
is my reaction. No no no no no no no no,
that's not no no no. I said two things there, no, no, no,
Actually some of it is training. What I said, I
said two things. I said, one is training, and then
I said some of these people should not be cops.

(01:43:21):
And what I'm saying is I on one second, one second,
one second. What I'm saying is I believe that what
has to happen is that you've got to have and
here's it ill I've seen it happen. I've seen it happen.
In some cases, you've got to have police officers whose
first inclination is not to go. I can put I

(01:43:46):
can put you in jail. It is to de escalate.
It is to calm someone down in order for me
to now have a proper back and forth. When I
see the body came right, that's sold on. I want
you to umber one second. One second. I want you
to say that, I'm gonna play it again, Rinda. I'm

(01:44:10):
gonna let you say that, Rinda. I'm gonna let you
say that. I'm gonna play it again for thirty seconds.
So let me play it again. I was gonna play
it about two minutes ago. So play it again, and
then you can make the point. What are you doing?
What are you doing?

Speaker 30 (01:44:28):
I need your license? Need your license?

Speaker 29 (01:44:31):
Talking about that's your car. I just saw you get
on the car.

Speaker 10 (01:44:34):
That's not my card.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
Okay, wait, hey, hey student, that's not doing to please me.

Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
Do you want to go?

Speaker 24 (01:44:44):
I I did not do anything wrong.

Speaker 31 (01:44:47):
Yes, I did not do anything one attendance to get
a ticket.

Speaker 24 (01:44:51):
I'm the passenger.

Speaker 31 (01:44:52):
You can get it to the school. The drivers that
you can get a ticket. I will listen, you can
get a ticket. Or if you keep playing, I'm gonna.

Speaker 29 (01:44:59):
Give you one.

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
Go home, and I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
Let you cod just de escalate, you relax because you
have the power ready to go.

Speaker 9 (01:45:22):
And my opinion stands this is what I think. She
was not over escalated in a way that he needed
to go through all of that with her. He began
to talk about you're going to jail, and she become
that's when she started to say, don't touch you, don't
touch me. But here's how I know it's not about
the training. They have the same They have the same
type of training, the same level of training when they
come in contact with white women, and they do not
approach them this way. The way that he jumped out

(01:45:44):
of the car and walked up to her and started
talking to her. He would have never done that had
she looked like an affluent, middle aged white woman. So
it's not about the training. The problem with these officers
is racism. They approach black folks like our lives do
not matter. And that's why he approached her. That she
was giving him the information that he needed to know
he could have eased And this is the part I

(01:46:04):
do agree with you on. He should have de escalated
the situation and said, hey, if you're saying the person
who's in the.

Speaker 10 (01:46:10):
School, the person who owns the cars in the school, will.

Speaker 9 (01:46:12):
Then call them right now and tell them that they
don't come out here right now, move this car. I'm
going to give you a ticket. He is the one
who went into you're gonna get arrested this and that
none of that needed to happen. I mean, that was
completely ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
And that's why I said there are people who should
not be on police forces. And this to me, This
to me that if you are a sheriff, if you
are a sheriff, if you're a police chief versus automatically
trying to defend the cop. This is where you say,
and I've seen an example. Yes, definitely, sheriff. You may

(01:46:51):
be technically direct, You may be technically rect technically correct
in that she could have gotten a ticket for ye yep,
may be correct that, Okay, go to jail, but it's
a traffic violation. You don't have to go to the
let's go to jail. And this is where and this

(01:47:12):
is where I fault that officer and what I keep saying.
And we played too many these videos, too many of
these cops. They don't believe in de escalation, they don't
believe in that they control the scene and how they
approach people is critically important. Now I've seen other videos.

(01:47:35):
I forgot the video we showed with his one brother.
He was just and the cop tried everything to get
his ass to calm down. And the cop said, listen, man,
I don't want to tell you, I don't want to
say you, but I'm gonna need you. And the brother
just kept going. That's a whole different deal. But this
is the problem that I have. And we're talking about
outside of a school. Oh my god, do you know

(01:47:57):
how many times? If there are two places where I've
seen vehicles left unattended are airports in the school airports
and schools. So if you don't know how to handle
parents picking kids up from schools, your ass have no

(01:48:17):
business sitting outside of a school, or really, you got
no business being on the force. Eugene had to go
out for given be on the show Whenita thanks about it,
how is it?

Speaker 9 (01:48:28):
But let me ask you this, just to go off
your point, how is it that they always know how
to de escalate when it is white folks? In no
universe with that, Oh, that's what I'm saying. I've approached right.
So what I'm saying is it's not about the training.
They do know how to de escalate, they just don't
do that with black folks.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
That's what it is. Because he would have yeah, well,
I mean I a white woman, right, he would.

Speaker 10 (01:48:47):
Have done everything I said.

Speaker 9 (01:48:49):
Had that been a white woman, he would have said, well,
you need to call that person right now and tell
them to come get this car or they're getting a ticket.
That's what he would have done. He would have ever
thrown a white woman to the ground that way. He
wanted to try to put his knee on her face,
which he did, and then she moved like this so
that he could not put his knee on her face.

Speaker 1 (01:49:04):
He would not.

Speaker 9 (01:49:05):
He wouldn't even jump out of the car that way.
He no universe would he have escalated this, And this is.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
This is and and and this and this is why
I say, pout blank, there are people with badges and
guns who have no business being in law enforcement, period.
Because we've run too many of these videos again, Eugene
Ronita on mccong. I appreciate your being the pat thinking
so very much. Folks. Listen, there's a lot of stuff,

(01:49:33):
uh that that is going on. I'm gonna be covering
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I'm correct. Avigos Stanberger, who's running for governor of Virginia
is going to be joining us on tomorrow's show. Kroen
is Senator Cory Booker joining us tomorrow as well. All right,
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