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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
This is Monday, July twenty eight, twenty twenty five. Coming
up on Rollandi distryt me live on the Black Start Network.
Why are black women women leaving the labor force more
thin three hundred thousand the last couple of months. We'll
talk with Morgan Harper in the Economists about that very issue.
Also on today's show, You've got folks starving in Gaza,

(00:21):
You've got USAID shuttered by Donald Trump, and Virginia Center.
Tim Kaine is putting the screws to Trump administration as
to why they're letting people starve around the world. Also
on today's show, we'll talk about talk to a Georgia
jym NEXTUS coach. They're losing their home. They're the only

(00:43):
gymnastics program for young black boys. He will talk to
him about what's going on and how they're trying to
save their program. Also on today's show, Colorado head coach
Dean Sanders reveals his battle with bladder cancer. Was showed
you some of that news conference. And this weekend, the
Original Team Golf Classic celebrated the third African American woman

(01:06):
to ever played on the LPGA Tour. Will show you
uh what she had to say about receiving that award
last night, folks, it's time to bring the funk a
rolling Mark unfiltered on the Blackstar Network. Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
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Speaker 4 (01:51):
Rolling, He's brook Stress.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
She's real. Good question.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
No, he's rolling Monte.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Why are we seeing a massive loss of black women
in the labor force thirty eight thousand in April, more
than one hundred thousand in the last couple of months,
the variety of reasons being cited. Let's go right to
Morgan Harper. Of course, she's an economist, economist. She's also
the director of policy and Advocacy at the American Economic
Liberties Product in Columbus, Ohio. Glad to have you on

(02:31):
the show, Morgan. So what the hell is going on?

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:35):
In a lot of ways, this isn't really surprising Roland, because,
as we've been talking about the last couple of months,
we know that DOGE has resulted. Even if DOSEE was
a fake project in a lot of ways, it has
resulted in real job losses, not in the name of efficiency,
just in the name of ruining people's lives, it seems like.
And who are a lot of federal employees. We have

(02:58):
a lot of black women that are part of the
federal force, and so that's going to hit us directly.
The other thing, and another theme we've talked about, is
the ripple effects of some of these federal policies and
the changes in things like DEI. They don't just stay
in the federal government. So add on to top of
the federal job losses, we have a lot of private

(03:18):
sector companies that are saying, oh, we don't have to
care about DII anymore either, and we can cut back
on some of the money that we were spending. The
full time employees that we had working in that area
also tends to have a lot of black women that
we're working in that field. So you know, it's a

(03:40):
compounding effect for sure, don't I don't know that we
have a ton of immediate solutions here, but for sure
we need to be sounding the alarm on the nature
of the problem.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Because a munch of these simple simons who say that
I was shilling for the Democrats, said that I was
making too much out of this, that all rolling Martin's
trying to scare us, saying Trump, Uh, they're going to
start getting rid of black people in the federal government.
Seems like I was right.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Yeah, I don't who was going after you for that?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Idiots? That's idiot. I mean, I mean I was. I mean,
I'm sitting here going, what the hell y'all talking about.
I'm like, the data is the data. If one in
five federal workers are African Americans, you're going to see
the cutbacks. When you talk about also what positions they're in,
You're going to see folks getting laid off. There's a
notion that that's like all the veterans out there who
vote for Trump being stupid, thought they were not going

(04:33):
to be impacted by douge oh thousands upon thousands of
being cut from the Department of Veteran Affairs. Yeah, it
was going to impact black people.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
Yeah, and we're not and we're not done yet. I mean,
you know where I used to work, the Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau, that's a whole set of federal employees that's
still waiting for the court process to unfold to know
whether or not their jobs are done. And then we
have to add on top of that government contractors and
a lot of people that you know, even if they're
not official federal employees. Now there have been a lot

(05:04):
of cunning of the federal contracts that we're employing a
lot of a lot of us as well, and so
you know, we're just going to continue to see some
of these ripple effects, like I said, and it's going
to start to impact not just the bottom line of
the individuals that are being laid off let go offer
these severance packages whatever, but it's going to start to

(05:24):
impact the overall economy because we know we have a
lot of purchasing power. We know that there are a
lot of households that are being led by black women
as the single breadwinner in a lot of cases, and
that's going to start to impact children, impact at the
community level. So this again, this should be considered, you know,
a real emergency, and like we've experienced in a lot

(05:47):
of other economic times, the first wave might hit the
black community, but it's a sign of what's to come
for the general population as well.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, I mean the Washington Post, he's a perfect example
what we're talking about the Amistad Research Center, one of
the largest repositories of black history, cut its staff and
have because they lost for federal grants. That's a perfect example.
So they're not federal workers. But when you start cutting

(06:18):
billions in dollars in grants that have gone out to
various groups, that's what you see. The Brennan Center posted
something I'm looking forward right now, where the Brennan Center
posted the number of jobs excuse me, the number of
programs that were targeted to end violence and on public safety.

(06:43):
They cut those grants as well. So now if you
work for those of nonprofits, are those groups you also
are now out of a job. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
And add on to that the state impacts, So the
state budgets, I mean, local government is another big recipient
of federal funds. The bill that passed, the reconciliation, the
funding bill, is limiting the amount of money going to
some of the state budgets city governments. Also, I think
there is like back and forth about whether public schools

(07:14):
are going to be getting all their funding. They've kind
of like they've relented on that a little bit. But no,
this is it's every sector of the economy. Is now
starting to feel some of the impacts of the administration's
war on the state really and even people, you know,

(07:34):
and I think this is right. Well, I mean it's
easy for people to think like, oh, well, I'm safe,
you know, I work in the private sector.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Whatever.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
No, this is going to eventually come to hit all
of us, and why we need to be paying attention
to it.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah. And again for the people who were like, oh,
y'all are just making a big deal out of this,
it's kind of like, okay, watch what happens.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yeah, and now the question is what do we do?
And I think this should be, you know, added to
the list of Okay, it's pretty clear that the folks
who are in charge right now, which is the Republican Party,
don't really have an interest in working class concerns and
particularly the black community. And so where are we going
with the observations and experiences that we are having, these

(08:20):
job losses, the impacts on the economy if we're going
to the Democratic Party, this is the kind of thing
that we need Democrats to be talking about and highlighting
some of these impacts all the time. And as they
continue to expand into different parts of the country, so
I think that's another misconception is that you know government workers, Oh,
that's just a DC thing.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
They've got it made in DC. Why do we care
about them anyway?

Speaker 5 (08:44):
It's like, No, there's a lot of government workers all
across the country and to your point, role and as
it starts to impact even nonprofits and as I was
mentioning some of the local and state funding that's going
to be everyone, there are no carve outs when the
goal is destruction.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Indeed, and D want to bring my panel right now,
joining us dot O Congo to being a senior profaceryal
Electric School in National Service, American University. Author of Lives
About Black People, How to Combat Racism. Doctor Larry J. Walker,
Sociate Professor, University of Central Florida. Joy Cheney, Founder Joy
Strategies out of DC. Let they have all three of
you here, over and over and over again. Larry, you

(09:22):
worked on the hill and we kept trying to explain
to people that when you talk about trickle down, we
talk about ripple. I call it a tsunami. And this
is the thing that people don't understand. African Americans, we
over index in government jobs because of the history of
Jim Crow freezing us out of corporate America. When you

(09:44):
look at what I will look at high five figure
and high six figure jobs. The reality is, if you
are an African American, more than likely, more than likely,
if you are in a six figure job, it's going
to be a government job. And we're and I know
people are watching to understand when we say government job,

(10:06):
we're talking about school district, the city, the county, the state,
the federal government. We're talking about teachers, police officers, firefighters,
all types of workers. So that's the first wave. And
as we've been talking about, that second wave are the
companies that get federal or state or local contracts or grants.

(10:32):
You see massive cuts, that means a serious, serious case
of pneumonia for Black America.

Speaker 6 (10:42):
You hill like some really important points rolling and as
it relates to what we just heard and the study, essentially,
when it comes to the US economy, black folks are
the canary in the coal mine when it comes to
these government cuts and would is company coming right? So
it's it's a trickle and then eventually it's going to

(11:03):
become a title wave for the rest of America. Right
as we get impacted immediately by this because with the
bottom of you know, of all these indicators because of
systemic racism.

Speaker 7 (11:13):
But you're you're.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
Right, you know people are you know all this rhetoric
about federal employees, uh if they use federal employees as
code for you know, black folks, because you're right, I
don't know how many people. I lived in the DMV
for a number of years, and I don't know how
many black people I knew that you worked in the
federal government and did quite well for themselves. The challenge
for this is you just heard, you know, the expert

(11:36):
just talk about. Is the impact this is going to
drag this is going to have on the US economy.
You know, you know, black women likely leave house, lead households,
as she mentioned, we have mortgages, rent people paying for groceries.
It will impact every aspect of the economy. Then the
next six months, year, year, year and a half, when

(11:57):
it starts impacting groups that don't look like us, then
they that'll be a concern and worry. But it's really
too late. These these cuts are devastating. And I worked
on the hill, Joey worked on the Hill, and I've
never in my lifetime seen this. This this this essential
takeing a scalpel and just ripping up the federal government.
And the long term impact on the US economy is

(12:17):
people cannot understand how this will weigh on the economy.
And then the challenges like I said, for closures and
all the other issues going to impact the black working
in middle class is going to be devastating for this country.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
And the thing and again we we go over this
and Joe, I don't understand how any of these idiots
could think that this was not going to impact Black America.
And what if I consistently said the goal of Trump
and his team is to defund Black America.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
That's correct.

Speaker 8 (12:51):
He wants to he wants to cut off avenues to
advangment for Black people, For Latinos, He'll be the Asian
Americans in a minute.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
And frankly, poor white he has.

Speaker 8 (13:07):
You know, and he started with us. We know that
we are always the canary in the coal mine. As
it's been already referenced. This is going to exacerbate what
it's just already a pay equity issue that's happening with
black women in particular, but across Black America, and it
will have long range impacts more than thirty percent of

(13:31):
the employees that were let go in that first wave
were black people and other people of color. We know
that he's going to get to everyone else later because
there's severe shrinking of the federal government.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
It's going to happen all over.

Speaker 8 (13:47):
It started where it's most But your panelists have already
said this, I won't repeat it, but we are concentrated
in jobs that were targeted by these diversity, equity and
inclusion programs. This is why on Black Women's People Payday,
which was about two weeks ago, black women's groups women's

(14:09):
groups were focusing in on the attacks of the Trump
administration on black women as exacerbating the pay equity problem
for us.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
We are disproportionately educated, but we still.

Speaker 8 (14:23):
Lag behind both white women and black men.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
And certainly white men.

Speaker 8 (14:32):
And part of it is the jobs that we're concentrated in,
and one of those in this case is federal jobs.
So while Black Women's Equal pay Day was midyear this year,
we can anticipate the next year it may be closer
to the fall. Because this is going to expand inequity
for black women.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
On the congo.

Speaker 9 (14:54):
I think we need to be mindful of the fact
that in addition to everything that's been said, we have
to just underline the fact that this is targeted retribution
on black women. I believe that so many people were
outraged when the stat came out that black women are
the highest educated group in America. And I think that
that plus the you know, black women at the top

(15:16):
of the ticket, there's just so much resentment that has
been breeded against black women. That has already been here
for centuries obviously, but it's been increased and we have
to be mindful of that for sure. One of my
biggest concerns is what people are doing to get resources
outside of this, because what the government is also doing
is cutting access to welfare, access, food supplies, you know

(15:40):
where people can go and actually get food from various places,
food banks, That's what I meant to say. They're cutting
those off. So much of the access is also being
torn So what are people supposed to do this? So
they're getting you coming and going, And I believe that
if we can continue to raise awareness like you've been
doing on the show the whole time. You said it
Roland defund Black America. On Black America, you talked about

(16:01):
it in so many different areas, but now that hopefully
the signal is as large as possible. I believe that
there's still time for us to come together and try
to organize the ways. But it's not going to happen
if we don't organize politically, if we don't fight back legally,
and if we don't stay involved politically as relates to
these elections and getting people in here who can help

(16:22):
change some of the other policies that can help us
get some of this footing. Because living in the DMV,
as you know, Roland, my wife and I operate these
yoga studios. You know, we have so many people from
the community who come in telling stories they lost this,
they lost that, foreclosure, this can't send their kid back
to school. That so many different issues and it's only
going to get worse as the school year starts. Some

(16:43):
are going back to college, and we have to continue
to sound the alarm like you've been doing every week.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
And Morgan, when we have to recognize this is literally
something that black people have got to recognize. This is
the next three and a half years. I mean, first
of all, even if let's just say Democrats take control
of the House, the reality is Republicans are likely to
still control the Senate. Trump is still sitting in the

(17:09):
Oval office. The votes are out there to override vetos,
and so you're talking about this is going to continue
again until the next election.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Yeah, that's absolutely right, Roland. And the other thing to
keep in mind is once you eliminate a job in
the federal government, it's not that easy to just turn
that back on.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
So, I mean, I think this is a warning.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
You're right, we have three and a half more years,
regardless for a real shift in the power dynamics of
the executive branch of government.

Speaker 7 (17:40):
Hopefully right, but.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
Either way, I do hope that that happens, and the
Democrats will keep in mind that they shouldn't just go
with the rules and how they've been always done and
all of this bureaucracy. It's like there's probably going to
be a need for immediate relief and immediate response and
not getting lost in all of the details. The other
point that I wanted to make was, you know, in

(18:04):
that three and a half years, just the scale of
damage that can be done. We need to be real
about the generational wealth impacts that could come from this,
because what also happens with federal jobs, those are jobs
with benefits. I will speak for myself. My federal job
was the first time after paying back student loans that
I started to do a real meaningful contribution to a

(18:24):
four oh one K.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
Why because there.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Was a match coming from the federal government to incentivize
doing that. That's when people are guaranteed to have time off.
If women are having a baby or for print, will
leave generally regardless of you know, dad, mom, whatever. So
we need to be careful about even if we are
being told stories about jobs that are coming to replace
the jobs that are lost from federal government, what kind

(18:48):
of jobs, the quality of job? And I think it's
fair to say that it's highly unlikely in the current
economic environment that the jobs that are going to be
created that are available to the broadest set of the
public and particularly the middle class, are going to be
guaranteeing the same level of benefits that have been enjoyed
through a lot of federal federal jobs that we've been

(19:08):
occupying over the last several decades. So you have been
way to the middle class.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
So you lose jobs, you lose benefits. There. Trying to
cut Medicaid expansion, trying to cut the fotable care Act,
and so they literally are trying to cut, cut and
destroy the social safety net.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yes, and if we know that four hundred dollars right
now can be the difference for a lot of people
between making it through the month or not, then imagine
adding on top of that, you no longer have someone
that's helping cover your healthcare premium. You no longer have
an emergency fund that you have saved if you do
have some unexpected medical expense or other life expense that
comes up. And so just the possibilities for financial damage

(19:46):
that really then leads to the damage of families and
households is not even quantifiable right now. And that's I mean,
that's very very sad and scary.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Indeed, indeed, Morrinan, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 7 (19:58):
Thanks for having me all right.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
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Speaker 2 (21:50):
Folks, this thory out of Alabama is absolutely shocking and stunning.
Three year old kid coretorious kJ Starks Junior after he
was accidentally left in a hot car for several hours
now his was crazy. The Birmingham Police Department says kJ
was in temporary foster care. He was picked up from

(22:14):
a daycare around nine am by a third party worker
contracted through the Department of Human Resources for a supervised
visit with his biological father. The visit ended the runn
eleven thirty am. Instead of returning kJ to daycare, the worker,
who was employed by the Covenant Services, stopped to get

(22:36):
food for her family, shopped at a tobacco store, then
went home. The worker forgot kJ was in the car,
fastened in a car seat for more than five hours.

(23:00):
kJ was removed because they said that the parents were
going to cause harm to the child. Quote. A child
in DHR custody was being transported by a contract provider
when the incident occurred. The provider has terminated their employee.
Due to confidentiality, DHR cannot come in further regarding the

(23:23):
identity of the child or the exact circumstance. As of
right now, no charges have been filed. I cannot imagine, Joy,
I cannot imagine if my child. First of all, I'm
already stricken by my child being removed from my custody,

(23:44):
but you remove my child from my custody and then
you end up causing my child to die.

Speaker 8 (23:55):
Yeah, these are these saddust caces. This is shocking because
it's the state, But it does happen, and parents, especially
in those summer months where the consequences are dire, and
those deep winter months were the consequences of dire. I

(24:20):
pray for these parents. They will never be able to
be made hold. But the state does have the ability.
There are technologies that have been created to make sure
that if you are in a car and you have
a child in the back seat, there's something that will

(24:41):
alert you that something's moving back there.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah. Yeah, the the Chevy, the Chevy ev Blaze I'm
driving right now. Literally, when you when you stop put
it in part, it immediately tells you, hey, check the
back seat for a child. But but but I'm still
I I don't understand how it's your job on my congo.

(25:06):
I'm confused. You literally picked the kid up. How do
you go food shopping into a tobacco store it then
go home?

Speaker 9 (25:20):
Yeah, And it just makes me wonder why this person
has not been arrested already, how a charge is not filed.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I want their ass is in jail right now. Period.

Speaker 9 (25:30):
Bottom line, this doesn't make any sense and it represents
every stereotype about the system as it relates to state custody.
This is tragic. As a father of three, you know,
thinking about you know, of one of my own in
a situation like that, The absolute neglect of this, and
it just shows a fundamental mind A. Yes, we know

(25:51):
there are tragic situations where these things happen in real life,
and we outside of this type of situation in terms
of government workers, but this is their job, this is
their stated job. And that this child, this beautiful child,
would leave this earth in that particular situation supposed to
be going to see his father. This is something that

(26:11):
should lead to an overhaul of the entire system and
investigation of the entire system. I wouldn't be surprised if
other situations like this in terms of neglect happened.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
But in fact, the most part.

Speaker 9 (26:20):
This person should already be locked up with charges filed.
And it's just a cautionary tale for for all of us.
I mean, who are running around, you know, if kids
and everything like that. But this is your job. He's
supposed to have a heightened level of awareness and they
got to throw a book at this person.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Larry, just shocking and studying.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
Yeah, as a parent, I just can't even what you
highlighted it. They're never get over this. And obviously this
is a systemic failure and you know rolland unfortunately we
hear too many of these stories of you know, you know,
you know, departments at the state level were supposed to
being caring for children. Obviously this is a third party,
but they contracted when so the state has a responsibility

(27:03):
to look out for the child's well being. I think
the core of this issue is that apparently who was
ever you know, you know, facilitating the child's movement from
one place to another didn't value their humanity, because if
they did, they would be acutely aware a small child
was in the back seat and would have going out

(27:24):
and shopping in multiple.

Speaker 7 (27:25):
Places before that child.

Speaker 6 (27:27):
You know, obviously, I'm assuming it wasn't discover but this
is no there are no words for this kind of tragedy.
And this is, like I said, this is the kind
of failure that should never have happened. And if they,
if they, if this individual really valued that that child's life,
this would have never this should have never occurred.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, you think absolutely crazy. And when we talk about
I mean you talk about you know what was tragic
and was what's crazy? It really is also our next story.
The last several months, several individuals, several others, they have
been uh, cryptically talking about pray for Dion Sanders. We

(28:06):
know he had issues with blood clots. He had to
have two toes removed. But today the news conference, Uh,
he shocked everybody when he revealed he was actually diagnosed
with bladder cancer. Dion went in for he went in
for routine routine checkup and related to the blood clots.
And then when it went to urologist if the test

(28:26):
came back and said hey, we got a problem. They
found that was a tumor on his bladder. They made
a decision to remove his bladder rebuild a new bladder
with his small intestines. Uh. And he was very frank,
open and honest about his procedure, what his life has
been like, and also how he's been leaning on his
faith from day one.

Speaker 13 (28:48):
We're going to kind of break it down to you
like we did our team, and it was so wonderful
seeing the team as they My God, it was so wonderful.
Bucket compeled a wonderful video to let them know every
step of the way so we wouldn't have to explain
every detail. But it was phenomenal. I wish we could

(29:08):
show you all that saying video. It was extraordinary. I
think Bugy's gonna put it on his YouTube channel soon
after this. But let's get started. Let's kind of get them.
Let's walk them through. Can we do that? Is that
okay with you?

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Up? Did we walk you through? Let's go look?

Speaker 16 (29:28):
Okay, So, as you guys know, Coach has his other
health issues, his vascular stuff. So every year Coach goes
for a CT scan of his vascular pattern to make sure,
you know, the blood clots are away. So with this scan,
everything turned out really great and from the vascular side,
about two weeks later, we get a text from his

(29:49):
primary care doctor that said, I need to talk to
you and Coach, we need to refer you guys to
a eurologist. So about three days later, we go see
a eurologist. They go in for a quick procedure. The
neurologist told us, hey, within ten minutes, I can tell
you guys if he's going to need another procedure or
if we just.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Need to do these follow up appointments.

Speaker 12 (30:10):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (30:11):
And the doctor told us, Okay, you guys are going
to need another procedure. I'm going to refer you to
my colleague, doctor Kukasia. But at this point, you have
a bladder tumor and from there we'll go get it removed.
And then doctor Cucasia it was go ahead.

Speaker 17 (30:30):
Yeah, So we proceeded with removal of the bladder tumor.
It showed a very aggressive.

Speaker 13 (30:35):
High because you guys gave me options that scared me
to death.

Speaker 8 (30:39):
Well, once we do, we'll get there. I'll get there.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Okay.

Speaker 17 (30:44):
We remove the tumor. It was very high grade and
fading through the bladder wall not into the muscle layer,
something we call very high risk non musclim based of
bladder cancer. So we did discuss options. We discussed some
options of treatment in the bladder, and we discussed bladder
removal as well. Given his commitments to his family and
to the team, elected to undergo a bladder removal. We

(31:04):
performed a full roboticist at laparoscopic bladder removal and creation
of a new bladder, and I am pleased to report
that the results from the surgery are that he is
cured from the cancer.

Speaker 13 (31:17):
You've a clap, It's okay. Rick was aware of what
was transparing. He's been a one and down there. Just
a blessing came to Texas to see me as well.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
But this.

Speaker 13 (31:38):
Was not an easy task because it was a changing
kind of a lifestyle. And with Lauren and I are
covering from Jackson. This is how many surgeries.

Speaker 16 (31:50):
From twenty twenty one.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
This is a surgery number fourteen.

Speaker 13 (31:52):
Surgeon number fourteen. I have most surgeries out of the
game than I did in the game.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Like what is going on? But they were so wonderful.

Speaker 13 (32:02):
You were such a blessing guiding me to taking me through,
verbalizing every darn detail so that I could make an
educated decision, which some didn't.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Want me to go that way. They wanted me to
go the other way.

Speaker 13 (32:17):
But I trusted and believed in you one one hundred percent,
and the process wasn't easy. Just like it was some
scenes that you saw all the bull junk that transpired
on draft day.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
It wasn't just that.

Speaker 13 (32:35):
It was just I knew as well I had a
surgery coming up. My sons to this day don't know
what transparent. I just told them something with my foot
again because I wanted them to focus on making the
team and not focused on dad. So they really don't know.
My daughters do. And this joker right here much loved

(32:56):
my son Junior, who have not left my side since
we found out what was taking place, not one day.
He's been with me here, been with me, and Taxis
been with me everywhere every day, and I've seen his
handsome face. And I love you to life, son, and

(33:17):
I thank you for everything you bring to the table.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
But this wasn't easy. Men.

Speaker 13 (33:26):
Everybody get checked out because if it wasn't for me
getting tested.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
For something else, they wouldn't have stumbled up on this.

Speaker 13 (33:35):
And make sure you go to the get the right
care because without wonderful people like this, I probably wouldn't
be sitting here today because it grew so expeditiously.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I could say, but.

Speaker 13 (33:49):
Please get yourself checked out, especially African American men. We
don't like going to the doctors. We don't like nothing
to do with the doctor, you know that. So I'm
not just talking to the brothers. I'm talking to my
Caucasian brothers, my Hispanic brothers, my Asian brothers, everybody, and
my sisters. And that's all y'all get checked out, because

(34:10):
it could have been a whole another gathering if I had.
I'm thankful. It's been a tremendous journey. It's been tough.
I think I dropped twenty five pounds. I was like
atlantavalcon prime at one point, you know, and just dealing

(34:33):
with the catheter, dealing with all the stuff that I
had to deal with. And right now I'm still dealing
with going to the bathroom like it's a whole life change.
Like I can't and I'm gonna be transparent. I can't
peel like I used to pee. It's totally different. And
she not only is a blessing, but she provided other

(34:57):
persons that have gone through what I've gone through so
that I could talk to them and get some solace
and understand like what I'm facing not just from.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
A doctor but from another individual.

Speaker 13 (35:07):
And the half that had been told like it's a
totally different life. I mean, thank God, I'm now I'm
I depend on depend you know, if you know what
I mean, I truly depend on depend Like I cannot
control my bladder. So I get up to go to
the bathroom already four or five times a night.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
But then I'm sitting up there waking up.

Speaker 13 (35:32):
You know, like my grandson, We're in the same thing.
We got the same problem right now, we're going through
the same trial and tribulations. We try to see who
has the heaviest bag at the end of the night
like this. It's ridiculous, but I'm making a joke out
of it, but it's real, Like it is real. It
is real. It is real. So if you see poor

(35:53):
the party on the sideline is real. Okay, I'm just
telling you right now, you're gonna see it. You're gonna
see the practice. You're gonna see one because it is unbelievable,
Like dozen off and waking up on first thing, I'm
grabbing my crops to see if if I peed on
myself and U it's just totally different. And I know

(36:13):
it's a lot of people out there going through what
I'm going through, and dealing with what I'm dealing with,
and let's start being ashamed of it, and let's deal
with it, and let's deal with the hit on and uh,
it's so many other companies I did to do a
wonderful job. But I'm thankful that, you know, we have
a relationship with depend and uh, we're making some other products,

(36:37):
trying to make other products that to help all of
us through. But it's it's been tremendous these two. Lauren
came down to Texas and was there with me during it,
a whole way up and walking our mouths in the
morning because Doc made sure you better won't keep better
be active, and we did it until it was some
point that I couldn't even get out of the bed

(36:58):
for a week at a time.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
You know, But she was there.

Speaker 13 (37:01):
I remember yelling to it, like, you know, because I
got I have two bags right, One was what.

Speaker 16 (37:09):
Both were urine, but one was it was phil quickly,
very quickly.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, it was like blood in you and it just
looked bad, you know.

Speaker 13 (37:17):
And I'm fishing with two bags, you know, I'm trying
to make life happen and couldn't come around my team,
and I wanted to be here with my team. I
wanted to see the new talent that we brought in.
I wanted to see them work, see them train, coach them.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
And I couldn't. I couldn't.

Speaker 13 (37:35):
But slowly, but surely, I built myself back up to
where I'm able, I'm strong, I'm ready. I'm still probably
about twelve pounds down. I'm gonna get that right. I'm
gonna fie these overhalls up like no other. But it
has been a tremendous journey and.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
I and I'm I'm truly thankful that God. God is
so good.

Speaker 13 (37:58):
God is so good. You have no idea. You have
no idea, how good God it's been for me to
be here. You have no idea.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Folks. This is a video posted denon Senter's Instagram page,
actually showing him fishing. He loves fishing, and you actually
see how he has the two bags he's talking about
sitting there on the table. He's got the tubes connected
to him and absolutely Coach Prime has lost a lot
of weight. It was so funny. At one point in
the video he talked about how he's changed his numbers

(38:44):
two or three times. He's gonna do it again. Actually,
I had hit him a few weeks ago. This somebody
was like wrong phone number. Doctor Leslie Dean, Professor in
chief of the Division of Eurology, Howard University College of Medicine,
joins us right now. Doctor Dean liked to have you here.
So first of all, explain uh, this idea of rebuilding
the bladder that really really blew me away when the

(39:07):
surgeons say they took portions of a small intestine and
rebuilt his bladder, build his bladder.

Speaker 18 (39:13):
How great to be with you, mister Martin. So rebuilding
the bladder is important because there needs to be a
reservoir in place for the urine to collect. The small
intestine is used for that purpose, and it is basically
as you know, the small intestine is a tubular structure

(39:37):
uh that is detubularized and fashioned into a reservoir much
like a ball or a balloon, and then the euchers
or the tubes coming from the kidneys down to the
normal bladder are sewn into that reservoir. Subsequently, it is
anastamosed or connected to the urethra, which is the pathway

(39:59):
out of the bladder to the outside, basically the tip
of the penis, and we do that so that a
person can avoid having a bag on the outside as
a permanent solution.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
So when he's talking about having to wear these two bags,
that's temporary or is that his life moving forward?

Speaker 7 (40:23):
That usually is temporary.

Speaker 18 (40:24):
And I suspect what the two bags are four One
is a catheter into the urethra that drains urine from
the bladder to the outside, and the second bag is
probably a super pubic catheter which goes through the abdominal
wall and into the newly created bladder. They both drain
into a bag temporarily to allow all of the areas

(40:48):
that are stitched back together to fashion that reservoir to heal,
and that's the reason why the two tubes were likely there.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
So during the news conference, the urgent said that they
caught this tumor on the bladder, but it had not
been attached to bone where if it metastasized. She said
that folks have you know, ten percent folks lived beyond
five years. So she said that this was a very

(41:18):
aggressive form of bladder cancer. And because of the checkup
for the blood clots, that's how they were able to
find this so early.

Speaker 18 (41:29):
Yes, And I suspect based on the press conference, and
what was said by his physician team. It sounds like
it was picked up on the angiograms or on the
ct angiograms that were done for the blood cloths. So
that usually will include pictures starting in the abdomen and
going all the way down the legs to look out

(41:52):
all of the large arteries going to the legs, and
included in that field would be the blodder. And they've
probably detected a mass inside the blodder, which then prompted
all of the additional investigations and referral to urologists.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
So how do you this is one of the issues
that also was raised under the news conference. Symptoms things
along those lines, and so you know, what does the
person look for? One of the surgeons say it that
bladder cancer is the fourth the fourth highest cancer for

(42:30):
men and so and so we'll put people out there
who are watching, who are listening, What do you pay
attention to? What are you looking for?

Speaker 18 (42:40):
So the main things are if you see blood in
your urine, that's the problem. I'm blood in the urine
in the absence of any symptoms of the urinary tract
infection should really raise the alarm bells. Many times this
is picked up on a routine your analysis that shows
microscope blood so blood that you cannot see, and that

(43:02):
will also prompt referral to a urologist for further evaluation. Additionally,
changing your urination habits, so meaning that you are going
to urinate quite often, you feel that there's some pressure
down there to urinate. You may also have some discomfort
or burning when you urinate an empty your bladder. Those

(43:26):
also can be symptoms of potential bladder tumors, including urinary
frequency and urgency to go now. The most commonly that
is due to an enlarged prostate in men, but sudden
changes or changes in the urine pattern should raise an alarm.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Mail last question before you before I go to my panel,
So Coach Sanders joked about there have been a porta
potty on the sidelines, him going to the bathroom a lot.
So having with this diagnosed and having bladder rebuilt, Uh,
what is that life like? He talked about wearing the pins,

(44:06):
joking about him and him and his grandchild. Is so
you know, what is a person's life like moving forward?
Having a bladder removed and now rebuilt and then having
a bladder cancer.

Speaker 18 (44:22):
So one of the main long term risk with having
a new bladder created inside the pelvis is urinary and continence,
which is what he's referencing. It takes some time to
regain control, and that basically involves doing legal exercises the
you know, exercising the muscle that you would use to

(44:43):
prevent yourself from urinating, to strengthen that area and also
strengthen the pelvic floor musculature. And then it takes them
getting use to the sensation of what that new bladder
feels like as it feels it doesn't it does and
feel normal. It feels more like a pressure. So you

(45:04):
have to get used to knowing how much you're drinking
and typically how much you're and you produce in a
given period of time, and then basically time the emptying
of the bladder and get used to that new sensation.
I think, you know, he was joking a bit about
about having the porta potty on the sidelines, et cetera.

(45:27):
But you know, these are things that he will that
he will get used to over a period of over
a period of time and most likely will regain a
substantial amount of control, if not full control.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
So he's talking right now about what is life like
is now, But what you're saying is over time three
six months, nine months, a year, then you sort of
get back to almost normal if you will.

Speaker 18 (45:52):
That's that's correct. Normal sensation is probably not going to
come back as in terms of the native bladder or
the bladder that you're born with, but you get used
to what it feels like, what the new feeling feels like,
and you can temper your activity based based on that.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
And it's really interesting you talking about those kego exercises.
Doctor Rachel's a psychologist. She deals with a lot of
men who have prostate issues. That's one of the things
that she also when she's helping men who had prostate
cancer surgery do the exact same thing.

Speaker 18 (46:27):
That's exactly correct because when the blodder is taken out
for bladder cancer in a mind, the prostate glind is
also removed.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Gotcha questions from our panel?

Speaker 6 (46:40):
Larry you first, Yeah, so I wanted to highlight something
he mentioned in terms of he highlighted black man and
preventative care, and we mentioned prostate cancer which impacts black men.
I know Howard had their recent white coat ceremony there
at the university, and so can you talk a little
bit about the importance of same race physicians, particularly, like

(47:03):
I said, we have cultural mistrust related to certain grouparticularly
black men. Can you talk about the importance of having
more black positions in the workforce?

Speaker 18 (47:12):
Yes, absolutely so. I think that this is very important.
Cultural sensitivity is important. Understanding what matters within the community
that you are entrusted to treat matters significantly, and training
black doctors is very important. I don't think that there's

(47:33):
any dispute in regards to the literature that when there
is race and ethnicity congruent care, that the overall outcomes
are better.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
On the congo.

Speaker 9 (47:50):
So, doctor, one of the questions that I have is,
you know, I also as you get older, you know,
going to the back the more frequently it's like a
normal thing, And well you're talking about that possibly be
a symptom of some of the things that Dion was
talking about. In the same ways that men are always
advised to get their you know, prostata exam examine.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Are there other types.

Speaker 9 (48:11):
Of things that people could do during a normal checkup
that could possibly hint towards any of these things Deon
Sanders is dealing with before the pain comes.

Speaker 18 (48:20):
Yes, so most routine physical examinations will include your analysis
and that what that does is it looks at the
urine microscopically. On that test, if there's a problem in
the bladder, or a problem in the uters, or problem
in the kidneys, you may detect blood and that is

(48:43):
what usually results in a referral to see the urologists.
In terms of screening tests, which I think is what
you are is what you are alluding to. We generally
don't screen for bladder cancer because the majority of times
that a person has blood in the urine, it is
not related to a malignant condition. The majority of times

(49:04):
that may be coming from you. If you consider the
kidney as a coffee filter for example, if you put
coffee powder or coffee grounds into the into the filter
and you pour water on it, you don't really see
any coffee grounds in the cup that you're collecting. But
as we get older, especially if there's diabetes, high blood pressure,

(49:28):
the holes in that filter i e. The kidney widen,
so some of the coffee grounds would come through, and
that's analogous to some red blood cells coming through into
the urine. So the majority of times it is related
to a filter or what we call a glomerular problem
in the in the kidney as opposed to a malignant condition,

(49:48):
and large prostates can also cause blood in the in
the urine, as can urinary tract infections, as can stones
a variety of of of pathologies. So generally is not
cost effective to screen for bladder cancer.

Speaker 8 (50:04):
Joy Well, first of all, I mean Secretary of Austin
reminded men about the importance of getting checks for prostate cancer.
Now we have Coach Prime reminding them of the importance
of getting checks the bladder cancer. What increases the likelihood
that you can get screating or that you might have
a problem. Is it family history and talk a little

(50:27):
bit about how that relates to what you should be
talking about in your family to discover if you are
in a high risk school.

Speaker 18 (50:36):
Yes, so important to really take an important history and
give and give the position the details surrounding your day
to day activity. So if you are a cigarette smoker,
that's important. In the Western world, cigarette smoking is the
most common cause of bladder cancer. The most common cause

(50:59):
of euros heat we call eurothelial cancer, which is basically
the cell type involved in most bladder cancers. Lines that
same lightning lines the urders or the tubes from the
kidney to the bladder, and the inside aspect of the
kidneys and cigarets. Smoking is the most significant factor related
to that. There are other risk factors in terms of

(51:22):
getting older. We know that nine out of ten bladder
cancers present in men over fifty five, so as you
get older, you know this is something to be aware of,
particularly if you have that history prior history of chemotherapy.
There are some drugs that are used to treat leukemia's
and lymphomas that predispose to bladder cancer. So if you've

(51:46):
had a history of leukemia or lymphoma as a younger individual,
then knowing that the risk of bladder cancer is increased
for you lifelong is also important. And then there are
some hereditary aspects of bladder cancer. There's a condition known
as the Lynch syndrome, which is a hereditary colon cancer syndrome,

(52:10):
one that does not involve polyps in the colon and
that puts men and women at risk for bladder cancer.
And then there are other genetic conditions that involve mutations
of a particular tumor suppressor gene called P ten that

(52:30):
isn't frequently associated with bladder cancers. Additionally, exposure to dyes,
So you know folks who worked long ago in the
in the here here dressing and here salon industry where
a lot of dyes were used. That's potentially a risk factor.

(52:52):
Firefighters and inhalation of smoke, rubber and dye manufacturing industries,
texts styles because of compounds like benzalconium and benzadine, exposures
to those areas are are our risk factors. And then finally,

(53:14):
if you look at northern Africa, in the Egypt in particular,
there is a parasite there that people get from washing
clothes or bathing in the Nile River delta that predisposes
to a different type of blood of cancer. So you know,
these are all things to be aware of.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
My final question for you is you said something that
was critically important that I think a lot of people
really ignore when you talk about family history. In fact,
in Dion's case, he talked about this before. When he
was diagnosed with the blood cloud problems, he actually got
it set because it wasn't until he got diagnosed and

(53:59):
his mother told him about the family history of blood clots.
His mother and his uncles were diagnosed with blood clots.
One uncle die from the blood clots and Dion said, Mama,
why didn't anybody say anything? So for people, doc really
explain to people why it's important for black mothers and

(54:22):
black fathers to have real conversations with their children about
what their parents or aunts and uncles their health issues.
Because when you go to the doctor and they ask
family history, they're not just talking about your mother, your father,
brothers and sisters. They're like, no, your family history, your
aunts and uncles and your grandparents, and so many people

(54:45):
don't know anything about their family history and illnesses.

Speaker 18 (54:50):
Yes, I think that that young people have to ask
an inquire about their family history as well as you know,
mother's fathers, uncles, aunts, crampyers rance really informing the younger
generations what potentially existed in the family, even if it
was a distant a distant relative. I think that that's

(55:13):
important because you know, the way the way genetics works,
not everybody gets the condition, but many people may be carriers,
and it's important to know that if you are a
carrier of a of an abnormal gene. Uh, it's important
to know that environmental exposures throughout your lifetime sort of

(55:35):
knock off the second gene and therefore then predisposed to
the carcinogenesis or mutagenesis issues.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yeah. Like, for instance, my mom has asthma, but I
don't have asthma, but I am very I'm alertic to
smoke and when it gets in my system sort of
the same reaction. And so although I don't have asthma,
Uh one dot say no, you say you have asthmatic conditions.

Speaker 18 (56:00):
Right, Yes, and a reactive hero whiz tend to tend
to run in families as as well, and you know
that that's a very important thing to be to be
aware of. It may not be full blown asthma, but
there may be certain things that trigger asthmatic type symptoms
when you're exposed to that.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Well, doctor Dean, great information. Glad you can join us
and hopefully, uh, you know, folks really learn from this,
and that is going it will spur men and women
uh to again, Uh check with those doctors.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
You Dion was very forthright, very open, very honest. Uh
and and in fact, you know, uh you know Joy
mentioned uh when Secretary Austin dealt with prosty cancer, he
actually tried. He didn't really want to talk about it.
He kept it very private, and actually I sent him
a text mess and saying, hey, use his opportunity uh
to actually help others, because you could be saved with

(56:54):
somebody's life.

Speaker 7 (56:55):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
And so I'm glad to see coach coming out uh
and doing that. And he's many clear he's gonna be
back on the side lines. That's not gonna stop him.
But you're talking about a Hall of famer who was
the top of his game in sports. So trust me,
he'll be attacking this like he attacked wide receivers opposing him. Doc,
we appreciate it, Thank you absolutely, Puestion. All right, folks,

(57:16):
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Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Folks. James Jones Gymnastic Academy is the only one in
the country that specifically trains young black boys. Over the weekend,
a tweet was posted on social media saying help. We
need your assistance because their lease is up in less
than a week. They need a place to change to train.

(01:02:43):
Zoning restrictions are also preventing them from relocating, so there
are a lot of different issues like that. Their goal is,
of course, is to increase the number of black boys
who involved in gymnastics, providing them an opportunity established six
years ago. James Jones, he is the owner in head
coach of the academy. He joins us right now, glad

(01:03:04):
to have you here. When I saw your tweet, I
sent this to a couple of pastors in Atlanta, Pastor
Jamal Bryant as well as Pastor William Murphy. Did Pastor
Brian said they did they make contact with you regarding
the use of their facility.

Speaker 20 (01:03:22):
Yes, And a lot of people have made contact with me,
and I'm so glad. Since the tweet and since a
lot of pages have shared it, I've gotten hundreds, probably
close to five or six hundred emails, text messages, messages
on social media, and it's taken me a while to

(01:03:42):
go through all of them.

Speaker 7 (01:03:43):
But I'm very appreciative. I see everyone reaching out to me.

Speaker 20 (01:03:46):
You know, I'm still in the middle of packing up
and I'm going to respond, but I appreciate it, and
I do see everyone emailing. I'm going down the list
and I'm responding one by one as I come to them.

Speaker 7 (01:03:57):
So, yes, I have received the email.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
So you're having to pack up from where you are.
What is your deadline? Do you have folks assisting you
with that? And then what is the type of space
that you actually need?

Speaker 20 (01:04:10):
Okay, So my deadline is Friday, because that's when the
lease is up. I'm getting all of the small things
out and on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, I'll have a
moving crew in and they're going to come in and
get the equipment and store the equipment just you know,
off site in storage. The type of building that I
would need is a warehouse. Gymnastics requires a lot of space,

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space that doesn't need to be altered. Ceilings need to
be high, and it needs to be a space where
we can just go in and start doing gymnastics without
having to do a lot of alterations. And a warehouse
would be perfect, except that there are so many warehouses
in our area and they all seem to be zoned
for industrial use and because of that, I can't move

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to any of them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
And when you say your area, you're in Clayton.

Speaker 7 (01:04:59):
County, Yes, I'm in Clayton County.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Okay, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 20 (01:05:02):
And so the issue is if I were to try
to lease a six to eight thousand square foot building
and a shopping plaza and a commercial district, it would
be about four times what I'm paying now for this
space that I'm in. But if I were to go
to a warehouse district and get a warehouse that's around
that same size, I could pay about four thousand dollars,

(01:05:23):
which would be great and which would be affordable, and
you know, the.

Speaker 7 (01:05:28):
Program could be sustained.

Speaker 20 (01:05:30):
But if I am going to be forced to go
to a twenty thousand square foot fifteen thousand square foot
because there are very few far in between commercial buildings
that would accommodate us, you know, I run the risk
of then not being able to sustain a program that big,
and just you know, in a year or so, might
be closing down because of the cost there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
So the facility you have right now, what is that
costing you per month?

Speaker 20 (01:05:54):
It's forty two hundred per month, and just in fees insurance,
it's about five thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
What's the total square footage.

Speaker 7 (01:06:01):
It's fifty one hundred square feet.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
And so what is the range you're looking for? What
would what would be your maximum space that you would
say that you would not want to go over. Is
it based upon space or is it based upon price?

Speaker 7 (01:06:19):
It's based upon ceiling height.

Speaker 20 (01:06:22):
So here the ceiling is thirteen and a half feet tall,
we would at least need the ceiling to be above
sixteen to twenty feet to allow for our older boys
and our developing boys to do the move that requires height.
So I'm looking at anywhere six thousand square feet sixty
five hundred seven thousand square feet to allow for apparatuses

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like a vault which is behind me. We don't have
our vault out because we don't have a full runway
for it, so we use a vault trainer. And there
are just other pieces of equipment that I have that
are stored around the gym that I'm storing and waiting
until we get a more suitable facility.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Gotcha? And so do you have someone so so you
got to be out by Friday? Then you're bestoring stuff?
And so you know, what is your process? Do you
have people helping you comb through all of these you know,
uh proposals to offer the people are providing to you

(01:07:20):
to sort of will let down and then be able
to do site visits and see what's appropriate you.

Speaker 7 (01:07:25):
Know, no, not just yet, because I didn't expect any
of this.

Speaker 20 (01:07:28):
I was actually asking for assistance in our area. I
didn't realize that it would, you know, go viral, that
so many people would offer help.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Now, come on, doc, come on you. You should have
known that was gonna happen. Now.

Speaker 20 (01:07:41):
Well, no, So when I said we need help, a
lot of people, you know, thought that I was saying
we were being evicted.

Speaker 7 (01:07:48):
We're not being evicted.

Speaker 20 (01:07:50):
You know, the lease is up and it's just not
suitable for me to renew the lease because I wouldn't
be able to do anything in here except recreation gymnastics
with smaller kids.

Speaker 7 (01:07:59):
And we're a competitive the gymnastics team.

Speaker 20 (01:08:01):
So you know, as i'm I'm seeing everything that's coming
in and I am working with three people now to
try to get through everything. But I don't have, like
I guess, maybe a professional person who's helping me come
through everything and respond to anything. You know, it's just
people who've been working with me at the gym.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Got it. Got it now for people to understand, go
to my iPad. You will see right here. So you're
in Clayton County. So basically above you to the left
is Fulton County. Then you have the Cab County, uh
and then and so that's sort of the space. So
are you looking to stay in Clayton County or are

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you what you also, you know, if it's the right
if it's the right you know facility, what you do
Fulton or the Cab.

Speaker 20 (01:08:49):
You know, if it's the right facility, you know, I'm
interested and I'm open to it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:53):
You know. The reason that.

Speaker 20 (01:08:54):
I am here in this area is because you know,
we have a trailer park that's behind it. We have
low income apartments that are surrounding. We have an extended
stay that's across the street. And there's a grocery store here,
a barbershop, a chuck E Cheese. There's a lot of
foot traffic that comes through. In the kids from the
neighborhood the area, they look in and they see and

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they will knock on the door and say, hey, you know,
I want to try gymnastalis.

Speaker 7 (01:09:19):
I would like to come in and do it, you know,
And I let them come in.

Speaker 20 (01:09:22):
And if I weren't in this area, in an area
similar to this, I don't know if I would still
be able to offer low income or just free gymnastics
to the kids who stop buying who want to do
that in the program. Now, we do have families who
do pay tuition and some have a reduced rate, And

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I don't want to say that.

Speaker 7 (01:09:47):
The focus isn't on them. The focus is on them.

Speaker 20 (01:09:50):
But just this area, I was able to serve a
lot of lower income families and I would like to
be in an area where I'm still able to do that.
So if I'm not, I understand, so I have to
move to another location where it's more expensive and I
can't so much do the lower income or the free classes,
or you know, just working with people. You know, that

(01:10:10):
would be fine, But that's that's just a goal of
mind to still be able to serve just in an
area and coach in an area where, you know, if
there is a kid who wants to do gymnastics and
they can't afford it, particularly boys, because it's so hard
to find a boys gymnastics program, and it's almost impossible
to find a black boys gymnastics program, you know, I

(01:10:31):
still want to be available, you know, for them, And
you know, I do want to say there are other
black owned or black gymnastics programs that are in our area.
They may be in another counter in another city, and
you know they are there too, but you know, we
just soak it.

Speaker 7 (01:10:49):
Excuse me.

Speaker 20 (01:10:49):
We our main focus is boys gymnastics, right, and I
don't think there is another all boys, all black boys
gymnastics team in the United States. If it is, I've
never seen them. You know, they have to call me
and let me know. I would be surprised. But to
my knowledge, you know, we're the only one. So if
I can't do that here and I can do it,
say in another county, or I'm partnering with someone where

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we are still serving.

Speaker 7 (01:11:13):
Just families who just can't.

Speaker 20 (01:11:16):
Afford it, I would love to still do that, but
the building would have to be affordable for me to
do that, and it would also have to be suitable
for gymnastics.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Got it. Questions for the panel on the CONGO First.

Speaker 9 (01:11:29):
First of all, thank you so much for the work
that you're doing. Can you just explain what happens with
these young boys who are involved in this gymnastics program.
Everyone talks about all these other sports, you know, basketball, football,
you know, pursue this pursue that you're so passionate about it.
What do you see working with these young boys in
this program.

Speaker 20 (01:11:50):
I see very early development, development of fine motor skills,
development of personalities, development of vocabularies because a lot of
the moves and other languages. I see a lot of
social skills that they develop. I also see a pride
in what they do. So I'm not saying that that
doesn't happen with other sports, but I believe it happens

(01:12:10):
earlier with gymnastics because of how challenging it is. Gymnastics,
in my opinion, is the hardest sport in the world.
It also develops muscles and voice faster than other sports
because you use your entire body. It's grueling, Like the
type of workouts that they do are the similar to
what a professional athlete would do, because they are the
professional athletes at a young age. And you know, what

(01:12:33):
I just see is a sense of pride in doing
something new, learning something new, and having a goal that
you know you can follow up.

Speaker 7 (01:12:41):
With and you can compete in.

Speaker 20 (01:12:42):
And so that's what I've been seeing over the six
years that I've been doing this. And they're boys who've
come to the program who didn't compete. You know, some
have come for a day, some have come for a
week to try it out a month and some have
been the entire six years.

Speaker 7 (01:12:55):
And I've tried to provide something for everyone.

Speaker 20 (01:12:58):
So even if someone didn't have a goal of competing,
at least they came in and had a good time
or they got to say, you know, hey, you know
I got to experience that.

Speaker 6 (01:13:08):
Larry, Yeah, thank you for all the work that you're doing.
And I wonder if you could talk a little bit
about you say, you share this story on social media,
and I want to talk about that, just that what
does it say about sharing a story about something that's
importantly meaningful and what that means in generally and just

(01:13:28):
I guess really humanity in terms of having a story
that it connects people and that you shared it to
a wider audience, and what does it tell you about
I guess it's some of it in some way, some
of the common good and humanity.

Speaker 20 (01:13:40):
You know, this has resonated with a lot of people,
and a lot of people, whether they are in this
same area or other states, they've shared their similar experience.
But not being able to find for their gymnastics program
and they had to close down. Now I know specifically,
you know it is I guess something that black areas

(01:14:03):
may experience maybe more disproportionately because of the types of
buildings and everything that are here. But what I would
say is I think it's universal, especially when you think
about opening a business, no matter what business it is,
if you have an issue opening that business, you will
have the same I guess feelings as someone else who's

(01:14:24):
having an issue opening that building, and you can relate.
I also want to say that there have been so
many other gymnastics coaches who've reached out to me and said, hey,
you know, what can we do together. You're a small gym,
we don't have a gym, you know, we may be mobile.
Is there something we can do together? And I appreciate that,
and I think that it is something that we should
all do together. None of us should ever be begging

(01:14:48):
anybody to help save us, you know, none of us
should ever have any issues getting the buildings that we need,
the equipments that we need. And so I'm just just
I would really like for all of the coaches who
are in this area to come together. If you have
a small gym, if you don't have a gym, if
you're mobile, if you're teaching a rec class, let's reach

(01:15:10):
out to each other. And I want to point out
that I have a gofund me and it's doing well
and I didn't expect it to do as well as
it is. And I think that, you know, God has
given me this moment and there is no way that,
you know, I can just claim all this for myself.
So there are so many gymnastics coaches in this area.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
You know.

Speaker 20 (01:15:31):
We have coach Gina and Sandy Springs who had to
close down.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
You know.

Speaker 20 (01:15:35):
We have Flip City South. You know, they're doing tumbling
and trampolining. We have the Tumbleweeds, you know, and they
do well. And we have Kids Gym, which is a
rec program. We have coach k at Airborne Gymnastics.

Speaker 7 (01:15:48):
Who's there.

Speaker 20 (01:15:49):
You know, there are so many gymnastics programs in this area.
I don't want to leave anyone else. We have coach Natalia,
and I believe her. It's twisting, twist tumbling, I believe.

Speaker 13 (01:15:59):
You know.

Speaker 20 (01:16:00):
There are just so many of us, and sometimes we
run into these same issues. And now you know that,
you know, I do have this time and people are
paying attention to the issue. I just want to just
reach out to any gymnasticist coach in this area in
the state or whatever. If you are having an issue
and you think that there's something that we can all

(01:16:22):
do together to partner and collectively solve this issue, or
even I would say, even if a couple of small
gyms just got together to get the building that we needed,
instead of having small gyms all over this area, I
think that we could serve more kids.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
You spoke with to go fund me. You set a
goal of twenty eight thousand dollars. It's at twenty seven thousand,
two hundred and sixty dollars, six hundred and twenty four
donations that have come through already. Joy.

Speaker 8 (01:16:53):
So I hope that when you're looking for support, it's
not just money.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
You need professionals to you need a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Well, actually, the first thing, first thing do you have?
Do you have a realtor? To George's point, because one
that person you can give them what you're looking for.
Has anybody offered a commercial realtor.

Speaker 20 (01:17:17):
Yes, since this has happened, there have been so many
real estate agents who are in the commercial space who
have have messaged me. But I do want to point
out that since this has happened, our local government has
responded tremendously. Commissioner Tashay Allen, she was one of the
first people to reach out to me when she saw
the post. This was before it went viral, and she said,

(01:17:39):
you know, is there a way that I can assist
you in getting in touch with someone in zoning Maybe
they can review some of these buildings for you. Commissioner Handbrick,
who is my area commissioner, she I spoke with her
about a week ago, maybe a little bit more than
a week and she, you know, was was helpful and
trying to get me in touch with someone in parks
and rec My my state representative Eric Beale, you know,

(01:18:02):
he sent me a message asking.

Speaker 7 (01:18:03):
Me how could he help.

Speaker 20 (01:18:05):
City council Woman Carmerleth the gums, she sent me a
message when she saw this saying how could she help?
So there are people who are seeing, you know, what's
going on and they are offering to help. And I'm
glad that you know, someone is noticing that the issue
that I'm having and that other people are having and
maybe things can be solved. Clayton County Zoning administration they

(01:18:26):
got back with me and you know, they gave me
some steps and some things that you know, I could
possibly go through to find, you know, a new location.
And I'm so grateful, you know, for all of these
people who have you know, who just offered to help.
And it's all coming at once, and I'm gonna get
back to everyone. And if I left anyone off, it's
not because you know, I'm intentionally leaving you off. There

(01:18:47):
are just so many messages, you know, and I'm still
trying to go through them. But relatives have reached out,
community leaders, pastors, churches, teachers, you know, people people are saying,
you know, hey, what can we do? Go ahead, and
I'm optimistic.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
A yeah, sound it sounds like you got it.

Speaker 8 (01:19:07):
One of the things that want to talk about, or
have you talk about, is the importance.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
Of touching the community beyond the sport.

Speaker 8 (01:19:17):
When they walk into your door, there are going to
be other people who can reach them as well.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
Can you talk about that.

Speaker 8 (01:19:27):
As a gateway of reaching people to deal with other
social aspects of the community that you're trying to serve.

Speaker 20 (01:19:35):
You know, I think that anytime you have a group
of people who are participating in any structured activity, it
builds community and they go out into their community and
they use the things that they've learned the things that
they've seen in that structured activity such as gymnastics, and
the community is better for it. And so what we
do here, the kids who come through and the kids

(01:19:56):
who train here, I think that this just sets them
up for life, to be better citizens and to be
more engaged in their community.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
All right, then, well, look, good luck with it, and
let us know when you have the grand opening and
the new location.

Speaker 20 (01:20:14):
Oh yeah, I'm optimistic and I'm sure something will come through.
Thank you so much, mister Martin for allowing me to
be here.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
All right, James, we appreciate it. Thank you so very much.
And good luck and more success to those young brothers.
Thank you, all right, Thanks a buch, folks. We'll be
right back right here, rolland unfiltering say in Georgia, wait
till I'll show you how dumb a Maga Republican is
running against Senator John Osoft. If you're gonna run for

(01:20:44):
US Senate, should you know how to spell? We'll be
right back.

Speaker 10 (01:20:52):
On the other side of change, Joran, Mam Donnie. The
New York City mayor race and this progressive wave that
has sent such a shockwave through all of New York
city and really the rest of the country. Jamal Bowman,
who's going to help us understand what this mayoral election
means and how we make sure that it translates across
the nation.

Speaker 11 (01:21:10):
You imagine national Democrats like identifying themselves as having slavor
or briars or swag, like absolutely not right. So hopefully
the city does what they can in November to help
resurrect his dying party and honestly just resurrect our democracy.

Speaker 14 (01:21:27):
Only on the other side of change. On the Black Start.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Network, Hello, I'm Paula J.

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And I'm with Roland Martin on Future.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
So Carson Mike Collins, he's come out and announced that
he is going to run against Oh he wants to
hope Well denomination to face Democrat incumbent Centator John Osoff,
us Senator in Georgia. So it always happens, you know,
people they come out with these new ads announcing their campaign,
and so Collins did so slight problem. Check this out.

(01:22:19):
Place is broken out of touch.

Speaker 15 (01:22:22):
Democrats like our two US senators fight harder for MS
thirteen gang members and they will nurse the students at Uga.

Speaker 7 (01:22:33):
Know he's out of the absolutely unreplent.

Speaker 15 (01:22:36):
You gotta be unafraid to fight. You gotta be you're
afraid to call balls and strikes to Spain, to spade,
and I think y'all have seen you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Don't mind doing that, Mike Collins. Great job you're doing.

Speaker 15 (01:22:48):
We're gonna put the hammer down and we're gonna get
it joined.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Any none of no go back. Does anybody see anything wrong? Wow?
He wants to be the US Center from Joriga.

Speaker 6 (01:23:16):
That's uh, that's by Estonian and Europe.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
And this is how dumbest staff is. Drop the lower
third place, y'all. It's been up for a day. Oh wow, Wow,
it's been up for a day. I'm just saying, I
would think I'm a congo. If you want to be

(01:23:43):
the US Center from the state, you might want to
spell it correct.

Speaker 13 (01:23:47):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:23:48):
It's just kind of like basic politics one on one.
But you know these guys, they're not on the level.
I mean, look at him. You look at Marjorie Taylor Green.
I mean, one thing a lot of these guys lack
is intellect. And so given that they lack intellect that
I don't see why they're campaign folks will They probably say,
oh my gosh, this is just another attack from the
woke left, you know, trying to destroy us and so

(01:24:09):
on and so forth. It's like, Yo, your staff doesn't
know how to spell or doesn't know how to correct
an issue, But their standards are so low that I
wouldn't be surprised if they just left it up just
out of ignorance, out of share ignorance. And the fact
of the matter is, I'm open that he loses in
the landslide. But it's hard to think about how so
many of us who do this work, and so many

(01:24:29):
leaders like usof and Warnock, who are intellectuals, who are leaders,
who are states people, have to run against people with
so little desire to have basic abilities like knowing how
to spell. But that's where we are right now. I'm
glad that you called it out because a lot of
folks haven't been join.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
My name is Mike Collins, and I want to be
the next US Center from GEO Riga exactly.

Speaker 8 (01:24:54):
Look as my colleagues said, I mean, there are so
many people who are going to cling to it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
My guess he leaves it.

Speaker 8 (01:25:01):
Up, and he says that for this crazy as these
people are, they might all start calling it jor Rika.
I mean, they might seek to change the state name
to him.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
Forget about these folks, right, We're not going to convince them.

Speaker 8 (01:25:24):
What this should remind you is if you are a
young man or young woman who is having imposter syndrome,
thinking that you don't belong, thinking that someone's attack on
DEI is deserved because you're not worthy to be there.
You are worthy to be there. These people are incompetent.

(01:25:47):
You are so much more competent than they are. Not
that they made a mistake, but they're too arrogant, too stupid,
too uninformed to then try to fix it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Absolutely idiotic, But that's Maga.

Speaker 6 (01:26:03):
Yeah, I agree with my college. He'd probably leave it up.
I think we have to understand is these kind of mistakes,
they're made by a black politician, it would be relentless
in terms of how they would be treated. I mean,
I think the other thing to keep in mind is
that things like this, like I said in the past,
will really kind of sink a campaign before it even
got started. But the other thing is it just is

(01:26:27):
just how it is. I mean, this doesn't things like
mistakes like this don't, like I said, won't impact the
long term. What wins elections now Roland is rhetoric, red
hot rhetoric. That's what wins elections. And that's the imagery
you saw in the ad. And so, like I said,
if there was a black candidate, this this will be
all kinds of jokes and social media ridicule. But you

(01:26:49):
won't see that. And you know, I don't think he
could beat you know, he will win, He's going to win.
But nonetheless, I think this is like I said, you
see that, you see the imagery that's more reflect active
of what we are in terms of our electorate.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Yeah, pretty uh, pretty crazy, pretty crazy there. But I'm
just saying, Geo Riga, all right, then, I've.

Speaker 6 (01:27:14):
Been there, I've been there, I've been there though I've
been I visited.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
So just saying, all.

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
Right, y'all, uh think they're getting into Harvard.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Just saying, just saying, folks, let's talk about a food
crisis happening in our world at a major United Nations
Food summit in Rome. Pope Leo the fourteenth, I mean ripped, ripped,
what's happening in Gaza, calling the use of starvation a
quote cheap way of waging war. Of course, we are

(01:27:48):
seeing a lot of criticism of Israel as a result
of the folks who are dying in Gaza as a
result literally a starving that's been going on. Massive pressure
has been being put on Israelis to stop this war,
to allow food to come in. Pope Leo. He has
condemned armed groups from burning farmland, block humanitarian aid, and

(01:28:10):
deliberately starving entire communities, actions that have left millions across
the world trapped. Now that's critically important because we see
what has been happening. Now here's the full quote pulled up.
Come on, pull up. What does he say? We are
currently scene with despair. The iniquitous use of hunger as
a weapon of war, starving people to death is a

(01:28:33):
very cheap way of waging war, That's what he had
to say. And here in the United States, nearly five
hundred tons of expiring food that was already paid for
by US taxpayers has been destroyed by the Trump administration.
Because well, they don't only give a damn so they're
not pro life, so they don't care if you starve
to death because it's all satisfying Doge and their cuts

(01:28:56):
that didn't sit well with US centor Tim Kaine of
Virginia unlet's to say he took it to an a
fissue with a Trump administration and watched this kean. I
guess you made the deal.

Speaker 22 (01:29:07):
You're up.

Speaker 23 (01:29:08):
Thank you, mister Chairman, and Misteria's good to see you again.
Mister Chair'd like to introduce into the record an article
from Reuter's dated May sixteen, twenty twenty five, titled exclusive
US aid cuts leave food.

Speaker 22 (01:29:20):
For millions moldering in storage. It will be entered in
the record.

Speaker 23 (01:29:24):
Let me just read some excerpts from this article that
came out two months ago. Today, food rations that could
supply three point five million people for a month are
moldering in warehouses around the world because of US aid
cuts and risks becoming unstable. The foodstocks have been stuck
inside for US government warehouses since the Trump administration's decisions

(01:29:44):
in January to cut global aid programs. A spokesperson for
the State Department, which oversees USAID set in response to
detailed questions about the foodstocks that it was working to
ensure the unaired interrupted continuation of aid program, and they're
transferred by July as part of the USA decommissioning process quote.

(01:30:05):
USAIDEA is continuously consulting with partners on where to best
distribute commodities at USAID warehouses. A proposal to hand the
stocks to AID organizations is on hold. Finally, nearly five
hundred tons of high energy biscuits started to USAID warehouse
in Dubai are due to expire in July. According to

(01:30:26):
a former USAID official, the biscuits could feed at least
twenty seven thousand acutely malnourished children for a month. The
biscuits are now likely to be destroyed or turned into
animal feed.

Speaker 22 (01:30:39):
That article was from two months ago.

Speaker 23 (01:30:41):
Yesterday, The Atlantic reported that the expiration date on those
five hundred tons of nutritious food for starving kids was
now upon US, and the US had decided to incinerate
that food rather than allow starving children.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
To have it.

Speaker 23 (01:30:56):
Mister you sure, the Deputy Secretary for Management and Resources.
These are resources that were purchased with US taxpayer dollars.
They're specifically designed to save the lives of starving children.
Why is it a good use of resources to not
distribute that food to kids and instead burn it?

Speaker 22 (01:31:17):
Thank you for the question, Centater.

Speaker 24 (01:31:19):
I'd have to look into that particular issuancy how those
food stuff got there?

Speaker 23 (01:31:24):
Can I just interrupt for a second. I asked this
question at hearing yesterday, so you would be prepared to
know that I would ask it today, and we called
your office to tell you that I would ask it today.
So the notion that you need to look into it
strikes me as a little bit odd as you sit
here today, is that food being distributed to kids or
is it being incinerated if it's been expired.

Speaker 24 (01:31:47):
My understanding is it's the policy of the government to
not distribute expired food medicine.

Speaker 23 (01:31:53):
And then, given that this has been written about for months,
and the article in March that I introduced in the
record was not the first we've been asked Secretary of
Rubio about this back into March. Since it has been
known for months that this food would have an expiration date,
why has the State Department decided to burn it rather

(01:32:15):
than distribute it to starving children?

Speaker 24 (01:32:17):
Yeah, I don't have a good answer for that question. Senator,
I am as distressed about that as you are.

Speaker 23 (01:32:22):
Okay, So I was going to ask you, does does
that kind of make you feel ashamed?

Speaker 22 (01:32:27):
Are you proud of it? Or are you indifferent to it?

Speaker 24 (01:32:29):
Look, I don't think it's you know, I'm not going
to say I'm ashamed or proud or indifferent to it.
But I think I think that was a failure.

Speaker 23 (01:32:35):
How about this, just as a statement and proposition, if
the US uses taxpayer dollars to buy specialty foods for
starving children, I think it's better that the food be distributed.

Speaker 22 (01:32:47):
To starving children, of course than incinerated. I would agree, we.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
Agree with that.

Speaker 24 (01:32:51):
Yeah, I think this was just a casualty of.

Speaker 22 (01:32:53):
The I have a hard down.

Speaker 23 (01:32:57):
I view it as an intentional thing, because if we
suddenly woke up and joy, oh gosh, the expiration data
is today, yeah, you know, that would be one thing.
But in March, there was a request by the World
Food Program and others. Look, if you're not going to
distribute it, maybe you've decided the US that starving kids
are no longer your thing. But you have this asset.

(01:33:17):
If you're not going to distribute it will distribute it.
So it's not a mistake if you've been on notice
of it for two months and you've made the decision
to keep the warehouse locked and allow this food to
be destroyed rather than again.

Speaker 22 (01:33:32):
I think the article says this would.

Speaker 23 (01:33:36):
Feed at least twenty seven thousand acutely malnourished children for
a month.

Speaker 22 (01:33:42):
I mean, so is this incompetence or cruelty or both.

Speaker 24 (01:33:46):
I'd have to look into what the facts of the
matter where if there were another organized aid organization I
was asking to have access to that to deliver it.

Speaker 23 (01:33:53):
Well, yeah, I want you to look into it. I
really hoped you'd come to me today and say, having
been put on notice, I was going to ask this,
we're going to give the food to kids. Hey, you
went to Boston University. Who is the most famous BU alum, the.

Speaker 22 (01:34:06):
Most famous buill next to you?

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 24 (01:34:10):
I don't want to offend anyone that's graduated from BU,
but I'll tell you.

Speaker 22 (01:34:12):
I'll tell you who it is. Okay, Martin Luther King Junior.

Speaker 23 (01:34:16):
What do you think Martin Luther King Junior would say
about a nation that purchased food for starving kids, and
then locked it in a warehouse until it expired and
incinerated it rather than giving it out so that twenty
seven thousand starving kids could survive meagerly for one more month.

Speaker 24 (01:34:34):
We're still the biggest giver of aid anywhere in the
world by far.

Speaker 23 (01:34:38):
So I think I'll just conclude. I want to hand
it back to mister chair. A lot of complicated issues,
you know, sometimes the tiniest detail really exposes the soul.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
You know. We had a big bill.

Speaker 23 (01:34:50):
That increased the depthsit by three trillion, and big tax
breaks and cut snap and all of that.

Speaker 22 (01:34:56):
But a government that is.

Speaker 23 (01:34:59):
Put on notice, here are resources that will save twenty
seven thousand starving kids. Can you please distribute them or
give them to someone who can who decides to no,
we would rather keep the warehouse locked, let the food expire,
and then burn it. To me, that really exposes the
soul of this endeavor. And I am glad to hear

(01:35:22):
you at least say that my questions cause you some concern.

Speaker 24 (01:35:28):
I certainly I did say that. I'll say it again.
And look, this is a media account, so I'd want
to look into. Look, I have to forgive me if
I don't always take everything that's reported in the media
to be one hundred percent factual, but I do want
to find out what happened here and get to the
ground truth. And if that's that's what happened, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
It shows you how sick these people are. Joy when
they destroy food food fool, specifically for people starving across
the world. And when the World Health Organization says, fine,
we'll pick it up, they're like, nah, it were still destroyed.

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
That's right.

Speaker 8 (01:36:08):
I mean, cruelty is the point here. They don't care
about the people that are needing this food, whether they're
frankly here or broad. They'd rather throw it away because
they are throwing red meat to a nasty base that

(01:36:33):
wants to see people suffer. Now, I think they're broken,
and I pray for them, you know, of course, but
the bottom line is they do have an eagerness to
see people harmed and hurt. And so just that we
are showing the images of what's happening in Gaza, and

(01:36:55):
we should beat We've got to show more and more
images of this being destroyed, of the people who are suffering,
who are not getting the aid that they just that
they have been reliant on all of that because we've
got to throw it in the face of Americans who

(01:37:17):
are are seemed disassociated with their morality, with their purported Christianity.
This is about a nasty leader of a party with
a nasty base.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Yeah, I mean, and Lara, they show it over and
over and over again. They don't care. That's how crass
they are.

Speaker 6 (01:37:39):
So it's an interesting role in that the exchanging Center, Kane,
and you know, you know, a gentleman.

Speaker 18 (01:37:45):
Testifying from state.

Speaker 6 (01:37:47):
He knew that question was going to be asked, Like
I've worked with you know, uh, you know administrator, you know,
individuals who were testifying before Congress before he knew that
question was coming. He knew they answer the question, just
was deflecting, which happens a lot in this administration. I
think the other thing is that this is a I
would say it was a low point when you throw
away food for starving, starving children. But I assume that

(01:38:10):
we have unfortunately that there are certain there levels to
this over the next couple of years that we're going
to see and then we'll go back and look back
at this and say that this is an appetizer to
much worse things. Happening down the line. I think the
other thing rolling in terms of, you know, the lack
of humanity when it comes an issue like this. And secondly,
this is a foreign affairs issue because I don't think Americans,

(01:38:31):
you know, we don't think about what happens in other countries.
When people aren't hungry, they're desperate, and then they look,
they look for other ideas and beliefs to provide them
with hope in terms of improving the situation, and then
also to figure out who's to blame. And often America
is a country that people point to on issues like this,

(01:38:52):
and this is an exactly real life example. So I
think people not only look at it in terms of
the show as the lack of humanity, but also again
you have to and this is a very serious foreign
of fear is going there, Oh Micao.

Speaker 9 (01:39:06):
It's important to note that this is happening in so
many different areas of the government. This is one example
with Tim Kaine. There's another example where they got rid
of like five hundred tons of food and one of
the things we talk that was meant for children in Afghanistan.
One thing we also be mindful of is that it
costs money to get this food together, but it also
costs money to destroy the food, and so it's not

(01:39:29):
like it's just being recycled somewhere, right, And they talk
about ending waste, swoad and abuse that Afghanistan example, I
gave you Biden administration put up eight hundred thousand dollars
to get this food. It's going to cost one hundred
thousand to destroy it. So that's one of the issues
that we have to be mindful of when we talk
about this. I'm surprised, Michael Vegas I looked it up
while you were showing the clips still has a job,
because you know he was a critical of the Trump

(01:39:51):
administration that he works for. You saw what happened with
the FEMA person a few weeks ago as well. We
have to be mindful that this is one of the
things that is helping change tiede on what's happening in
Gaza right now when people are seeing the starvation. Now
you have Israeli human rights organization using the term genocide,
and Yahoo's in trouble.

Speaker 7 (01:40:10):
Most people who are defending.

Speaker 9 (01:40:11):
Israel aren't saying Israel has a right to defend itself anymore.
But this is part of an international trend of depravity
towards the world's most vulnerable people. USAID going off a
Larry's point in terms of foreign policy. When those USAID
trucks arrive, what did it say on enrolling on those
bags from the American people. That's what they call soft power,

(01:40:32):
and that's what the United States is losing with Trump.
You know, rule by force, you know whatever they do
they talk about, you know, do everything by force. They're
losing the ability to soft power. And China stepping in
and other countries are stepping in. So not only is
number one this destroying the lives of children and families. Two,
it's also destroying the United States' ability to be able

(01:40:53):
to be have real diplomacy in this world that comes
to food aid and it's really disgraceful and barb Eric.

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Speaker 25 (01:42:21):
So these state houses get hijacked by the far right,
then they jerry mander, they suppress the opposition, and that
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Speaker 21 (01:42:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
Of The Proud Family, Louder and Prouder in Washington, Roland
Martin Lorida and M board when they hired the grossly

(01:43:08):
unqualified Marva Johnson to be their new university president. That
they also approved a massive, massive salary increase of a
six hundred and fifty thousand dollar annual salary plus one
hundred and fifty thousand thousand dollars one year retention bonus,
which I understand you haven't done anything yet, way more
than when they were paying previous president Larry Robinson. Well,

(01:43:30):
what they said was they were like, well, you know what,
We're just gonna sit here and just have the Florida
and M Foundation, you know what, pay for some of
her salary. And then foundations like, nah, we're good. This
is not quite interested in doing that, folks, said the
Ratler Nation Pope published this story. I got a kick

(01:43:50):
out of this here where they weighed in on this.
It says Family Foundation declines to fund Johnson's salary, which
I think it's pretty hilarious, It says the Family Foundation.
They said, now we've got some other budget issues and
so we're good. The Florida Legislature says, this story says
this year added a last minute budget amendment to the

(01:44:12):
states twenty twenty five twenty twenty six spending plan that
gives family the ability to side step a state law
that caps the amount of money public money state colleges
and universities can spend on presidential salaries. Florida law currently
caps the amount of public money spent on college university
presidential salaries at tw hundred thousand dollars. Up until now,

(01:44:32):
each institution had to fund the rest out of their
private foundation funds. Well, Florida and m were like, yeah,
we're still paying the interim president, We're still paying former
president Larry Robinson. So you know what, we're just gonna
take four hundred grand. We're gonna spend that on the
march in one hundred and the athletic team. I think

(01:44:53):
that makes a lot of sense. Larry bomb line is,
y'all want to hire her at that crazy ass salary.
She five, don't come to us asking us to pay
her ass. Y'all go find it damn money yourselves, Roland.

Speaker 6 (01:45:08):
Obviously, I've been following this very closely over the last
couple of months, and they're really for the people who
don't understand government and side deals. This is this is
this is an example when you talked about raising the
cat quietly inserting into the budget bill. But I'm glad
the foundation. I chair an HBC foundation right now, and

(01:45:30):
you know we're five oh one c three and there
are times that you have to take a stand they
make different from from from the university or other entities associated,
and so I applaud you know, the chair of members
of the board for taking this stand. I'm quite sure
they experienced a lot of political pressure, but you have
to do the right thing by the foundation. You have
you know, footy shared responsibility, and you know they are

(01:45:53):
you know presidents HBCUs out there with ten, fifteen, twenty
years of experience who are not even making the salary
that she's currently making with no experience. So once again
I applaud members of the Foundation board. And you know,
this is just how things get done to Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
I love this line here on in Congo says, meanwhile,
the foundation nearly double is projected give fee revenue three
and fifty five thousand and seven hundred and fifty thousand,
citing stronger donor engagement of that increase four hundred grand
will bolster FAMI Muse Athletic Department and It's fame marching
one hundred band, a move applauded by alumni but raising
questions about priorities, amit leadership pay debates. Hell, I listen,

(01:46:33):
if I was getting money to Florida A and M,
it would have restrictions. Uh, don't don't send my money
for Marbra Johnson.

Speaker 9 (01:46:41):
Oh definitely, I mean, how do they What I what
I like about this story is that people like Rhanda Santis,
you know, Younkin, you know here in the DMV in Virginia,
and you know obviously Trump at the top. They're expecting
every aspect of these colleges to just obey it, and
if they don't, they are being targeted in every way,

(01:47:03):
shape or form. And so the Foundation is saying, we
don't have to be a part of this, We don't
have to we don't have to agree with this, we
don't have to be down with this, and you're definitely
not going to be coming for our dollars because they
are liable for where their money goes. And the fact
of the matter is the Santists feels like they can
do whatever they want, whenever they want, if all of
their cronies and that everybody's just gonna bend over, even
if they are not directly under his rule, and they

(01:47:25):
are not having it. And if I was giving them money,
I would devote it towards towards the music. I would
devote it towards anything, but this particular individual. So many
people stood up to make sure that she was not
going to be there, and they put her in position anyway.
But it doesn't mean that everybody who's associated with the
school has to just bend over and do everything their way.
So I appreciate them fighting back. And it's not even

(01:47:46):
just fighting back, it's just doing what's right. And we're
in the crisis of morals right now with so many
people are so scared of the Santis and his ilk
that they're afraid to just do what's right. So I
applaud the Foundation for what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
And look, it was all a hook up, a setup
of joy. First of all, did they did not they
voted not to allow the board, chierd to negotiate. They
picked another board member who actually was her homegirl. Uh.
And so anybody with any any brains and say, hold up,
why we're gonna pay you double wo paying Larry Robinson.
And you ain't never run, you ain't never worked at

(01:48:20):
the university, you've never run an office, you've never run
some of employees. And so I'm with them. I'd like
y'all go find the money somewhere else. Go go gone
holler at your maga Republican legislature to find your money
found foundation. Like, nah, don't come holler at us exactly.

Speaker 8 (01:48:38):
Look, the gript is on with these people, the grift
is on. They're all about self and getting as.

Speaker 4 (01:48:46):
Much money as they can for self.

Speaker 8 (01:48:48):
But this is also a reminder if you were on
a board of a foundation, if you are in a
minority party of a legislative or congress, you have to
know the rules, and you have to know what you
can do, and you have to make them fight for everything.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:49:11):
I have to use every tool at your disposal.

Speaker 8 (01:49:15):
So some people are out there tweeting and doing social media,
that's fine. Some people are out there protesting, that's fine.
But if you are in a position where you can
put the screws to them on the rules.

Speaker 4 (01:49:33):
If you can say, hey, we got the money, we're
gonna use.

Speaker 8 (01:49:35):
It for some other thing. Oh, that's not what you're expected.

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
But where is it written like Ventaina say dog, say dog,
I ain't got it. I ain't got it, I ain't
got it. Let me uh, let me stay in Florida, y'all.
Let me stay in Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:49:50):
Y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
Y'all gonna let us here because you know, they love
talking about how they depart their family values and all
that sort of good stuff. And they complain about, uh,
they complain about, uh, you know, queens and library readings.
We'll check this out, y'all. A sitting city commissioner is
facing This is Fort Pierce Commissioner James Taylor. He's already resigned.
Why because he was arrested on twenty four felony child

(01:50:12):
explotation charges. Twenty four Come on, come on, show his photo.
Let's go, let's show him. He was elected in November.
He's accused of sending explicit photos and soliciting child born
from a twelve year old girl in Illinois. He's in
the Saint Lucci County jail on free hundred and sixty
thousand dollars bond. The charges include lude, computer solicitation and

(01:50:33):
transmission of harmful material to a minor. His resignation becomes
official in August second the city commission woul meet to
determine how to fiel his vacant seat. Oh but I'm
not done. I'm not done, y'all. It was another dude.
He was very much involved in the election, and he

(01:50:57):
was the leader of a right wing faith organization. When
they talked about that that was pushing people to vote
their faith at the ballot box. Huh. I wonder if
it's his part of his faith, the freaky shit that

(01:51:19):
he was doing. Okay, the program was called My Faith Votes.
Oh y'all gonna love this year. Okay, My Faith Votes,
and he was the CEO. The only problem with that
is his hash just got arrested, y'all. Yeah, he got
arrested because and he pled guilty. You know, he played

(01:51:41):
guilty too, possessing child pornography. Yep, yep, mister, mister, yeah,
I love my faith. He's a former CEO and James
Jason Christopher Yates sixty fifty six years old, played guilty
to two of eight felamony countsel the possession of child pornography.

(01:52:04):
This took place in McLean County, Minnesota. He was initially
charged and arrested in October twenty twenty four. In course,
he served as the CEO, and they said, well he
got to go. So what about that child pornography? Faith?
I mean, I see why they making excuses for Jeffrey
Epstein and Donald Trump, because that's just sort of who

(01:52:27):
they are on the congo.

Speaker 9 (01:52:31):
Eh Man and I could have sworn when you talked
about this segment. We were going to talk about the
superintendent in Oklahoma who had the point.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
I ain't done. I ain't done. No, no, no focus
on this right now.

Speaker 7 (01:52:40):
I ain't done, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:52:44):
I just the hypocrisy is so real, and the fact
that people are going to try to talk about this
being some other type of conspiracy, and then like these
people are being exposed for who they are. They spend
all their time jumping into other people's business and the
other people's bedrooms, in the other people's house, other people's classrooms,
and they are doing everything that they're talking about other

(01:53:05):
people should not be doing. And really, at the end
of the day, this type of exposure should lead people
to get away from this party, to get away from MAGA.
We're not talking about being conservative or anything, getting away
from Magga because they're hypocritical. And not only that, they
are some of these guys are predators and they are criminals.

Speaker 7 (01:53:23):
Why do you still want to.

Speaker 9 (01:53:24):
Associate with them just because they're feeding you whiteness as
a thing to help you stay afloat in this country.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
You got to do better than that. Yeah, and his
what's crazy? I mean this is so you know, Larry
mc coong was talking about Ryan Walters. He's the superintendent
of schools. They're in Oklahoma. So this story here dropped
that was pretty interesting that they were in a board

(01:53:50):
meeting and let's just say, oh, porn rolled up on
his screen. This is the Oklahoma Reporter. This here board
members say, naked women on TV and Ryan Walter's office
during closed session. This is the headline. Okay. Now, this
is board members, y'all. Just ain't just like the internet gossip.

(01:54:12):
It's board members, okay. And so that's what. So this
has been talked, This has been talked about all over.
Now I'm gonna play this for y'all. I'm gonna show
y'all this year. Of course, Walter has come out with
a statement. He goes, as I lead the charge for
a bold overhaul of education Oklahoma, putting parents in back
in control, rejecting radical agendas, and demanding excellence. It's no

(01:54:33):
surprise to face politically motivated attacks. Any suggestion that the
device of Mind was used to stream inappropriate content on
the television set, it's categorically false. I have no knowledge
of what was on the TV screen during the alleged incident.
There's absolutely no truth to any implication of wrongdoing. These
falsehoods are the desperate tactics of a broken establishment afraid

(01:54:56):
of real change. They aren't just attacking me, they're attacking
the values the Oklahomans who elected me to challenge the status. Quote. Mmm,
I don't think so, Larry.

Speaker 6 (01:55:08):
Yeah, so that I saw, I read that. You know,
now he pulled he pulled something from that that Bill
Clinton monic Lewisy deniw so many years ago. Like you know,
the politicians, you know, and religious leaders also get caught
all the time in these situations. And obviously the first
thing they do is deny, and then he laced it

(01:55:29):
with a bunch of rhetoric to make it seem like
it's a conspiracy out to get him. He was a
closed sash session. They saw it, they saw the good sting.
I read the article. They saw you got caught. But
instead of manning up in highlighting, you know, you made
a mistake or whatever. He's going through a tough period whatever,
to see what it come up with. He's going to
deny I see this investigation. We'll see if it's an

(01:55:51):
actually investigation or a wink and a nod to an investigation,
and they're actually going to look at what was on
this uh you know this screen. But it's a level
hypocrisy roly. We shall also note that there is a
research show to the people who have these extreme views,
and also that they digest this kind of content. So

(01:56:13):
it's not surprising if you look at the research and
read about individuals who have these extreme views and what
they really do behind closed doors.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
I'm just saying, I'm just saying joy hate should just
go ahead and just let us freak flag fly.

Speaker 4 (01:56:32):
Exactly.

Speaker 8 (01:56:33):
Look, let's clarify, a lot of people watch porn.

Speaker 4 (01:56:40):
It's not wrong. I'm going to go out and say that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
I love this person right here, goes, Oh, he's an
audible man. I believe this was a setup.

Speaker 8 (01:56:51):
Yeah, let's talk about what this is when you're doing
it on a public device and you're doing it at work,
that's the problem.

Speaker 4 (01:56:59):
That's in one category.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
I love it. Then let's talk about and together people who.

Speaker 4 (01:57:06):
Are engaging in child pornography. It's something totally different.

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
Yeah, and that's and again doesn't one count following, doesn't
cow I follow on Twitter. It's a whole lot of
Republicans who are constantly getting busted on child pornography. I mean,
I mean just some sick, demented individuals, and they always
put a drag ways.

Speaker 8 (01:57:32):
Yeah, it's the intensity of their denial that.

Speaker 4 (01:57:38):
Usually tips us off.

Speaker 8 (01:57:39):
Yeah, that something is wrong with them, something that they're
seeking to hide.

Speaker 2 (01:57:45):
Well, guess what they're asking for the uh sherif to investigates.
So we're gonna see what happens there in Oklahoma. All right, folks,
I'm gonna have the original classic video for tomorrow. We've
got a couple of story sports stories will talk about
tomorrow's well CC Sabathia as well as Bubba Wallace. But
we'll say that tomorrow. Let me thank my panel being

(01:58:06):
listened today Joy Larry and Onmicongo. So appreciate it. Thank
you so very much for being here, folks. That is
it for us. We got to bounce. First off, of course,
support the work.

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That we do.

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(02:00:04):
a what's with them sipping paint parties? Y'all know, I
wasn't paint nothing. I was busy the one doing the video.
Of course, that's what I was doing. So my job
is always document the good stuff. So that's what was
taking place. So I had a great time at the
house celebrating her birthday. Let miss, I can get the
video playing right here and so that's uh, let's see,

(02:00:28):
let's see what's going on there we go? All right,
here we go. That's her right there jamming to the music,
and so my parents were there, a lot of family
members were there. Everybody enjoyed themselves with the sip and
paint party. When I got there, y'all know, the party
got turned up because I started DJing. And see, that's
why the whole room is doing what they do. So

(02:00:49):
that's the way we rose. So Levina, Happy, happy fifty
fifth birthday. All right, folks, that's it for us. I
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