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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Martin found Today's Thursday, April seventeen, twenty twenty five, coming
up on Roland Martin Unfilter extreaming live on the Black
Start Network. Carmelo Anthony a young man accused of murder
at a track meet in the Dallas Fort Worth area.
He is out on bail. A lot of white conservatives

(00:29):
are angry and upset there.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
They are attacking the family because the father of the
young man who died showed up at a news conference
that Anthony family held today and they are attacking the
Anthony family for saying that he should not have been there.
We'll talk to a Dallas activist who is working with
the family on this very issue. It is very contentious

(00:53):
and is very much white versus black issue here. Also,
Donald Trump continue attack on Arvard University. Not only they
want to now defund them and remove their exempt status,
they were trying to actually force a federal audit to
audit the opinions and the viewpoints of faculty staff in students. HBCUs,

(01:18):
I'm warning you you could be next. Also, the Supreme
Court agrees to hear a challenge to the Fourteenth Amendment.
Trump says, oh, the Fourteenth Amendment was only supposed to
be about slavery. Black folks, don't be fooled. He don't
give a damn about us. And still why a black
conservatives so quiet of these attacks on black people. Cleveland

(01:42):
pastor Darryl Scott tweeted about Trump calling him this morning
in a great call they had.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
I sent Pastor Scott a few tweets and I texted
to him saying, why don't you bring these issues up
in your call with Trump? I'm still waiting to hear
back lots to break down. It's time to bring the
I'm rolling but non filching on the Black network.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
He's got whatever the best, He's on it, whatever it is.
He's got the school, the fact, the fine and wait
it blas. He's right on top and is rolling. Best
believe he's going putting it down. Bronc's Boston hows to
politics with entertainment, just bookcakes.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
He's going, it's rowing, it's rolling, Montane. Yeah, rolling with rolling,
He's Poky's prest She's real the question, No, he's rolling.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
Montane Marte.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Folks.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
An altercation a Texas track meet leaves a student and
another student facing first degree murder charges. This story has
been blowing up in the Dalla fourth area, but has
also gone national as a number of white conservatives are
attacking the young black man who has been charged in

(03:18):
this case.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
His name is Carmelo Anthony.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
They are demanding that he get everything thrown at him
for what took place in the death of Aaron Metcalf.
So let me unpack what happened here guy's roller video,
So understand. So seventeen year old Carmelo Anthony, this is
him being released from jail. Okay, he's been released from jail.
A black judge lord the bond. Well, that black judge

(03:44):
has been getting death threats as a result of that.
That's Judge Angela Tucker. She's been getting massive death threats.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Now again. Seventeen year old Carmelo Anthony.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Says he was only protecting himself when Austin Metcalf, according
to witness statements to police, tried to shove Anthony, who
attended a rival high school, out of a pop up
tent when Anthony grabbed a knife from his backpack and
stabbed Metcalf in the heart.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Now Anthony is now out on bond. Now.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
His parents held the news conference today and the father
of Metcalf showed up. Here's a tweet that racist Charlie
Kirk sent out with the video from the news conference. Okay,
he sent this tweet out here, all right, and so
you see him attacking, attacking the family and attacking activists

(04:41):
because of what was stated.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
What does Kurt say insanity?

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Dominique Alexander, who represents Carmelo Anthony, just attacked Austin Metcalf's
father Jeff for attending a press conference held by the
Anthony family, calling his presence quote a disrespect to the
dignity of his son. Kirk tweets this is revolting. I
responded to Kirk. I said, I'm curious if the Metcalf

(05:10):
family held the news conference and Carmelo Anthony's dad showed
up at that news conference, would you be saying the
same thing? Joining us right now is the activist in Dallas,
Dominique Alexander Dominic. Glad to have you back on Roland
Martin unfolthd. It has been sometime. So first of all,

(05:31):
you have Charlie Kirk saying you represent the family.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
You're not a lawyer, correct, not at all, So, so
explain for the public your role in this case.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
So the Next Generation Action Network, of course, is founded
here in Dallas, Texas, in the Dallas Forward metroplex for
since twenty fourteen. We are the advocacy arm Our organization
is an advocacy led organization.

Speaker 7 (05:58):
We are not the attorneys. The attorney for this case
is Mike Howard.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
We do the advocacy around making sure that people are
aware of this situation, in supporting and how to support
this family and to ensure that this family's rights are
not validated and the things that.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
Are legal matters are handled by the lawyers.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
What's crazy here is so check this out. Here's a
tweet right here, this person said, I did a Twitter
search for Kamalo Anthony till up to two days ago
after the incident. I could only find one post from
a black account defending him. But there are a countless
posts from white's making it a race issue. Whites racialized everything.

(06:42):
Then cry when black people take sides. And then this
is a scroll of tweets that this person actually pulled.
And when this story first happened, they called Cromelo Anthony
a thug.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
They were it was all sorts of names they were.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
They were saying that Aaron Medcalf was this football star,
he was this bright young man, talented, high grade point average,
all of that. But Carmelo Anthony is not a thug.
Carmelo Anthony is a high grade point average student as well,
And so Anthony was being treated as a savage and

(07:24):
Metcalf was being treated as the golden you know, the
perfect student, the golden child, if you will.

Speaker 7 (07:34):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
One of the things rolling that we need to point
out in this situation is that most of the people
raise their consciousness because of what Hunter Medcalff said in
the local media where he literally admitted over the weekend
days after the same day, I believe it was the
next day, where he stated that his brother was told

(07:58):
by Carmello to not touch him and literally admitted that
he did it anyway.

Speaker 7 (08:05):
And so no one did that interview for Hunter mecclafe.
He did it himself.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
And so this hate, this race, this this bigotry wasn't
introduced by us, right, It was introduced by them, right.
And I'm gonna say this, Roland, I don't know if
you even remember this, because I was on the panel
for the DPD Police Chief and I believe I had
this guy coming after me and I used this quote

(08:34):
and I said it on your show, and it was
quoted in other publications, even in New York Times. We
will never ask the oppressor for permission to liberate our people.

Speaker 7 (08:45):
I don't know if you remember me. I remember, so
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
We will never ask that, and I will say that
ten years later. Don't get mad when you come after
ours and then we respond and support hours, right. And
so I'm not woitting here to apologize or basically a
given excuse onto why we are supporting Carmelo Anthony. We

(09:12):
are supporting him because if you can support your white baby,
we can support our black chid kid, right. And so
these laws are not just created for some, They're created
for all, right. And so just like he should have
his right to be able to claim self defense. And
what I want them to understand is Carmelo didn't come
out days later and claim self defense. He claimed self

(09:37):
defense the moments the police touched him, the moments the
police even arrested him and detained him.

Speaker 7 (09:44):
He didn't come days later. He has always and it's
in the affidavit.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
But what these people have done is created as a
racial theme.

Speaker 7 (09:55):
We see that even with this judge.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
This judge is literally has been a publican for over
three decades. I personally don't agree with her political views
or whatever it may be. She will probably never be
at a Next Generation Nection Network protest or anything we
do right. But what they show Black America is regardless

(10:18):
of what ballot box you check, you are still black
in America. And that's what they're showing to the people.
And that's what people are rising up again. And I
told somebody, this Trump administration is going to either unite
us or divide us, right, And I'm just happy to
see Black America in our allies standing in this rainbow

(10:43):
coalition of justice to say no, this is not right,
and we ain't asking y'all for permission to help our baby.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
This here is a post from the very conservative Rupert
Murdock own New York Posts. They also owned the Wall
Street Journal. They also own Fox News. They also owned
for folks need to understand, they also owned Fox Soul,
and they also own to be Okay.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
So this is what the New York Posts.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Carmelo Anthony renting nine hundred thousand dollars home in gated
community with family, bought new car after release on bond
in Austin Metcalf murder case report. They also have been
stating that the family that Carmelo Anthony's family have been
withdrawing money from a fundraising effort it's called give sin Go.

(11:36):
In fact, the folks that Give sin go this the
folks at Give sin Go literally had to come out
and explain why they were not removing the Anthony fundraiser
from their platform. People were threatening that platform by saying
you should not be allowing them to raise money. This

(11:57):
right here, y'all give me a second. This is actually
this is the New York Post tweet right here. But
the folks even at TMZ reported no money was actually
withdrawn from this account.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Crict TMZ actually called Give sin Go and actually asked
them have the family have access to this fund and
they literally responded and said no. And what was interesting
about it is around noon yesterday they called them and
got their confirmation. Well, Give sen Go sent an email

(12:36):
to the family about two pm Central Standard time notifying
that they could actually start the process of withdrawing the funds,
which everybody know even withdrawing it takes a few days
to even hit your account.

Speaker 7 (12:52):
When the family.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Put their information in to be the beneficiary of the
account because the account was set up by someone else,
that took days for verification, and especially when the money
is for the benefit of a minor, it took days
for verification in these falsehoods.

Speaker 7 (13:14):
These falsehoods was only created to discourage people from giving
money to the platform.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
So they start these lies and all of these things
that they could have easily verified by just picking up
the phone calling gifts in go. They would answer the phone,
they would respond to emails and they let them know
and so TMZ called directly and they responded, and so

(13:43):
they could have done that just like anybody else. But no,
they just started spreading out reports all of these things.
They started talking about the family paying for private security.
The security if you see the video, the security is
my security staff. Our worktor of security for ng AN
is in that video is Gordon Camelo Anthony out as

(14:06):
long as well as me and another individual of the
NGA in staff.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
Right. We have our own.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Security apparatus and we have made it our business to
ensure the safety of this family.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
This is the Daily Caller.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
They put this tweet here out where they pulled from
the news conference of Carmelo's mother. And again I need
people to understand the framing, the framing, Control room, y'all
get the clip ready, the.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Way this was framed.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
And I keep telling people, this is why black on
media matters, this is why social media matters, why you
need to have credible black voices.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
The framing of.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
And look, we've been trying to get the Anthony family
on to talk about this as well, because the framing
from day one has been black thug kills, perfect white
football star. That was the framing from day one. Folks
took that and they ran with the photo. Not of Carmelo,

(15:10):
not of Carmelo in a suit, not Carmelo in his
athletic attire.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Now any of that.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Everything was about let's show thugs, let's show so this
is a photo here, This is a photo here of
Carmelo in suit tie, Okay, school photo.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
That's what was shown.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
But the framing when we saw all of these stories,
when we saw everything come out, and I remember from
day one, it was oh no, no, we're gonna show
something different. And this is what it was right here,
this is what it.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Was, the mugshot.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
And so folks took that and they ran with it
oh thug, single parent home. Daddy not around at the
news conference.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
This is what his mom says.

Speaker 8 (16:08):
Family moved to North Texas searching look better life.

Speaker 9 (16:13):
Like so many other families, we wanted to give our
children the future we did not have.

Speaker 8 (16:19):
My husband worked hard every single day to provide for us,
to make sure we're the best financial to make sure
we're in the best financial position possible.

Speaker 9 (16:33):
As a stay at home mom, I made it my.

Speaker 8 (16:36):
Life's mission to ensure our children are loved, nurtured, and
supported every step of the way. And wake up this
tragic incident, our family has been under attack. Whatever you
think what happened between Carmelo and the Metcalf boys, my
three younger children, my husband and I didn't do anything

(17:00):
have deserved to be threatened, harassed and lied about the
lives and false accusations that have been said about us,
especially over the past week, has been overwhelming. The lies
in their amplification put my family in danger as well
as everyone in our community.

Speaker 9 (17:21):
Everyone involved.

Speaker 8 (17:22):
An investigation from the police, the attorneys, and the course
fat Our address and my husband's previous employees address.

Speaker 9 (17:32):
Has been put on all social media platforms.

Speaker 8 (17:36):
My husband had to take a leave of absence because
he's afraid what may happen to our family. His mental
health is infuriating. Day by day. We have endeared death threats.

Speaker 10 (17:54):
My thirteen year old board it's afraid to sleep at home.

Speaker 11 (18:00):
Because she's fearful of what might happen to her.

Speaker 10 (18:05):
And let me be clear, the planes, the claims that
were used by the public donations to buy a.

Speaker 9 (18:13):
Home or anything else are completely false.

Speaker 8 (18:18):
We have not received a single time from the gift
set go fu RAC and the co founder.

Speaker 10 (18:26):
Hesitated that clearly and in reality, we would just notified
yesterday that we can begin, so we draw funds, and.

Speaker 8 (18:39):
It still takes several days to receive those fun tons
wants to requests me. I don't know why we have
been targeted and discriminated against before a fair trace.

Speaker 9 (18:51):
I was sun to serve the.

Speaker 10 (18:52):
Same rights other pig lost that everybody's reported too. He's
been raised to the two pairs with structure, stapability, love,
and we put God first in everything that we do.
We believe in the Constitution, We believe in the laws
of this state. But those laws must apply to all.

Speaker 9 (19:14):
Of us, not just some of us.

Speaker 8 (19:17):
To be clear, when I speak publicly about specific details
of what happened under the tenth on that running and
all day there's an activity.

Speaker 10 (19:28):
Destigation that everyone involved wants to be full and said,
we believe in the legal process and that is what
the truth will come up to.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
The family who experienced the law.

Speaker 9 (19:42):
My heart, truth go come to you.

Speaker 11 (19:48):
To those who have supported my family, Thank you from
the bottom of our hearts. We ask for your continued support, patience,
and it's navigating.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
That right there quite emotional and families describing all they're
going through.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
And again the framing.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Of the narrative of this has been, oh, this family
is broke, destined to all sort of stuff. Then it's
how dare they go to this home? How dare they
This is this people, people who don't understand Dallas for Worth,
just describe for them the area where this school is

(20:33):
located and the type of homes that exists out there.
This is not a low income area of Dallas Fort Worth.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Not a single low income area Frisco. I'm born and
raised in Dallas. Six's you graduated high school in two
thousand and seven, literally Roland. This area where they were
was just late it was just fields. This is This
is an area that has been developed in the decade
or two. And I know you know that a lot

(21:03):
about they're rolling through these were fields when I was
a kid. Literally feels the medium income level is there,
probably about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
This is not a low income area.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
This is home of where the Cowboys headquarters. Is a
number of development. I believe Universal Studios is about to
come there. That this is not a cheap area. So
if you're trying to lease a home or do anything,
if you want to live probably in a four hundred,
five hundred, six hundred or eight hundred thousand dollars home,

(21:41):
right if you are leasing in this property and rolling, man,
I just wanted people to see the heart of this family.
Just to see that video of the mother saying that
was even hard because here in this office, as people
watching that press conference and hearing that mother, it wasn't

(22:01):
a dry eye in the building, And especially for people
who know Kayla Hayes and know this quiet woman and soul,
and that just came from the bottom of our heart,
you know, And just the pain, the fear, the I've
been there to see the pain, the fear of these

(22:23):
children and the things that they have had to experience
with this situation.

Speaker 7 (22:28):
And I just want people.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
To understand, you know, the hate hadn't been coming from
here we and created or we cannot pull a black
card the reality. That's our reality, that's what we live
through every day. We can't pull our reality right. And
we ain't gonna apologize for being yet black in America.
We ain't gonna apologize for that. And I think what

(22:50):
you said, Roland is important because that's what set the
outrage of most people in America black people, particularly about
this case, to say, hold up, wait a minute now,
y'all going too hard. And then young people started to
post that even knew Carmelo Anthony right and was saying.

Speaker 7 (23:11):
Carmelo is not this Carmelo is a three point five.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
His colleague started standing up for him on social media, right,
the kids, the overwhelming support. That's the reason why we
told everybody we could not talk about the nuances of
the case because it's so involved. Every last witness to
this situation is a minor. We cannot release their idea,

(23:37):
we can't release the information around it because there were
no adults in that proximity of that area, right, All
of the witnesses to this are minors, and that's one
of the things we wanted to give clarity to today
to make sure people understood the facts, because there's so
many different moving parts. But as soon as I released

(23:59):
one of those kids name or even in inkland around it,
I've become the legal liability civilly and criminally.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Just for folks who are watching, just so they can
understand again how this is being played out. I'm trying
to connect here. I am. If you go to Twitter
and I call it Twitter, you go to Twitter and
you type in Carmelo Anthony mug ka r M E

(24:31):
l O mug I can't.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
We have a connection problem.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
What you will see is you'll see mostly white conservative
accounts angry, mad and upset.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
There we go, look at this.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Carmelo Anthony's family has no shame allegedly selling justice for
Camelo T shirts for twenty five dollars to profit off
his killing of Austin medicalf while flawning one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars Catleic Escalade and a three thousand dollars
a month gated community rental.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Does this send the wrong message?

Speaker 1 (25:04):
And then you see disgusting the family of alleged murderer
Carmelo Anthony. Then, of course is no shock you got
black conservative grifter Brandon Tatum. What does he post when
a community celebrates the accused instead of mourning the victim,
it's a sign of serious cultural rot. This merch launch
for Camelo Anthony is shameful and deeply concerning for what

(25:25):
lies ahead for the black community.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Here's why.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
And then of course he goes on and we all
know Brandon Tatum it will be as anti black as
you can get because he's grifting off of MAGA. And
here's somebody respond to him right here saying, if it
is self defense, standing your ground applies in Texas, and it
is you who is wrong. So what Brandon Tatum is

(25:49):
saying is, oh, he's saying celebrating the accused. So what
Brandon Tatum, Dominique and all these other white conservatives, what
they are saying is that if you're accused of a crime,
you don't get the same benefit as George Zeremanny.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
You don't get the.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Same benefit as Kyle Rittenhouse, who they celebrated and raised
money for. They're like, oh, no, Carmela Anthony is guilty
until proven innocent, so therefore he's the murderer, so he
shouldn't get due process, The family should not people shouldn't
be giving money to a defense fund. And again they're

(26:30):
framing is that this black thug killed a perfect football
star who's white. That's the framing of this and that's
how this thing is played out in media and social media.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Chrit it is and get Twitter is Yet because of
the oligarch that owns it now is yet a nesting
breed for yet extremists to get just go in and
command the algorithms and just put a whole bunch of
different things. That's the reason why our organization don't even

(27:07):
check that stuff, don't even do anything on that Yet
platform because of the simple fact that we know that
that is a nesting ground for conservative right wing extremists
and hateful people to use that platform to put out disinformation.
And they've been doing this the whole if they've been

(27:27):
doing this every since this platform was purchased by Elon Musk.
But at the end of the day, I think that
people are really understanding exactly what's going on, and that's
the reason why we felt like it was important for
us to have this press conference today to say listen,
what we ain't used to do is literally allow you

(27:48):
to attack, discredit, destroy our black baby. These platforms have
been used to raise two million dollars for Kyle Rittenhouse
and a whole lot of people before Carmelo Anthony's fundraiser
was on the right. And if he can raise two
million dollars, why can't our baby raise a half.

Speaker 7 (28:09):
A million dollars for his legal defense?

Speaker 12 (28:11):
Right?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
And so the reality is is people are seeing this
double standard, and it's clear they don't feel like these
laws that were created that many of us was there
in the Texas Legislature saying hey, you don't need to
allow permanent list carry. We don't need standard ground laws.
We don't need them, but you kept them on the book.

(28:34):
And yet, since you kept them on the book, it
ain't just for you, it's for all of us. And
that's just what it is. That's final. I don't want
you kept them on the book. When we fought to
make sure that George Zimmerman was held accountable for the
death of Trayvon Martin, you.

Speaker 7 (28:52):
Kept them on the book.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
We testified in the Texas Legislature in the Florida legislature
and many legislatures that I know personally. I have traveled
to speak against standel grand laws and all these different
types of things, But since you kept them on the book,
I don't care about what you're trying to say.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
Now. These laws are for everyone.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
All right, Dominique Alexander, We s'll appreciate you joining us
on today's show.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Thanks a lot, Thank you, folks. Gonna go to a break.
We come back.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
We're gonna show you more of that news conference, and
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Speaker 1 (31:53):
Alright, folks, I want to play some of the news conference.
This is after Carmelo Anthony's mother's fucking dominque. Alexander was
speaking and again, I mean, this case has been crazy,
how it is blown up on social media and a
conservative media.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
So watch this, Sarah.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
She's even came after me, She's even said all of
those things. And now that the public knows exactly what
is going on, I asked, because these racist bigots try
to prevent us from standing up for our baby, our boy,

(32:38):
he should be afforded the same rights that Kyle Rittenhouse had,
Daniel Penna, and all of the people who have claimed
whatever their defense was, he should be afforded the same right.
Nobody in the public media has one video camera, but
we got the video of Kyle Rittenhouse with an AK

(33:01):
forty seven shooting three people in the back. We got that,
and he raised more than two million dollars publicly, and
nobody said anything. So since they tried to come for us,
I called for the community's overwhelming support for this fund.

(33:23):
That this information that was put out was literally deliberate
to prevent you from helping this family, and I want
you to give overwhelming support to show them the community
united can never can never, can never be divided. And

(33:48):
I'm gonna say this again, and this is for everybody.
Black people in America. While the current occupant sits at
sixteen hundred Pennsylvania, black people in America don't have to
pull the race card. It's what we live as a
reality every day. Is what we have to teach our children.

(34:12):
We don't want to, but we have to. We don't
like to, but if we want to sleep at night,
we got to. I ain't pulling no race card.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
I live it.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I'm reminded all the time that I'm a black man
in America, and what y'all just showed to Judge Tucker
is just reminded that hate and bigotry and racial reconciliation
in this country, we have respected the process. I believe

(34:48):
that Austin Metcalf is about to have his funeral and
I wouldn't dare even with the information I know, and
plenty of people can share that and all that, but

(35:09):
we have prevented from speaking about that in these type
of public forms. It will come out they have a
more than well capable attorney and this family will go
through a process of being able to get prepared for
this trial. So I just say this real quick. This

(35:33):
is our final time speaking to public and holding a
press conference, folks.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
So that was that news conference again often Metcast's father
showed up to look at my panel, Doctor Gregcard, Department
of Afro American Studies at Howard University. He joined, just
have to know La Haynes, Georgetown University. Glad to have
you as well out of DC.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
This is this is the thing right here. Greg, I'm
gonna start with you. And again, when this story broke
and when I was sitting here following it, and I
it was absolutely white black thug, thug kills white football star.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
That was the framing.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
And so you saw all of this in conservative media.
They were all Austin Metcalf, Austin Metcalf, Austin Metcalf, the
the thug. And then I was suddenly beginning to hear
Anthony side.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
On what happened, Well, why was Anthony that? Why was
he under the tent?

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Did we find out that it wasn't like this was
only your school could be here, all these different different accounts,
but Anthony was being savaged everywhere in the conservative media
and the social media.

Speaker 12 (36:59):
Well, I mean rollin.

Speaker 16 (37:02):
The obvious play is to.

Speaker 12 (37:07):
Blitz with disinformation.

Speaker 16 (37:10):
Near the end there when we heard the characterization of
the mood of the country in terms of Donald Trump,
as you know, basically a permanent dealing of the race card.
As I was listening, I was thinking how the prosecutor
will play this, because all of this is I mean

(37:35):
to call it taming the jury pool is an understatement.
You're basically talking about a proxy race war. And as
brother Alexander said, everybody involved in terms of witnesses that
at least it looks at this point is a minor
So basically what you've got is a global game of
rock on SoC and robots. Every witness is a proxy

(37:55):
for something else. This is a race war. It's a
cold race war at this point. But as Malcolm X said,
as long as you have the ingredients for an explosion,
you have the potential for explosion on your hand, the
clown in sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue, all of the racists
that are stoking the fires everywhere in the United States
of America at any point, any single incident could be
the wick that sets off a national explosion.

Speaker 12 (38:19):
If this continues.

Speaker 16 (38:20):
Finally, in the vein that you've been lining out and
characterizing by kind of surveying social media and giving us
a sense of this kind of visceral race proxy race war,
if this continues along this line, can we imagine what
a trial looks like, What does jury selection look like,
What does the waider process look like, when the prosecutor
and the defense attorneys are asking potential with potential jurors questions?

(38:43):
What does the reporting look like As the media carries this,
this could become a proxy for the era we're in.
And if that happens, man, you're absolutely right, black media
is going to be more necessary than ever because it's
going to be a blizzard, a blizzard of race racist
interpretation of this, including probably CNN and MSNBC and everywhere else.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
This is video and again just understand social media how
they've been playing again, and one of the people who's
really been pushing this is is we Ocaine of Fox News. Okay,
he's been pushing this as well. So here's social media posts.
So we Ocaine grabs a clip from Charlie Kirk, who

(39:28):
he knows a white supremacist, and so just so y'all me,
I just need to show y'all juxtaposition of how conservative
media works.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
So again, I showed you the Kirk tweet.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Come on, my pet, come on, this is the Kirk
tweet saying insanity.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Blah blah blah. This is revolting.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Criticizing metcal So we Ocaine grabs his video and w
Ocaine posts Despicable Dominique. And this is one hour ago
Despicable Dominique. Alexander, representing the family of Kamelo Anthony, calls
Austin Metcalf.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
He literally takes the.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Exact same language of Charlie kirkstweet. He then says reveals
his character he had police removed Metcalf, appalling this is
the video that right wing folks are circulating.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Listen in one.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Second, all I'm going to say so it don't be
asked later as that was disrespectful and just shows you all.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
The character.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Who was not invited. He knows that it's inappropriate to
be near this family, but he did it. And so
I say to people, actions speak louder than words.

Speaker 7 (40:53):
Okay, what he.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Political operatives that want to make this thing a political
thing of hate, yet bigotry and yet racism.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
We have conservative.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Operatists that have been posting non stop about this case.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
So just understand what is going on here. And this
has been you know, Nola constant and the framing, the
framing of it. Guilty, guilty, guilty. Here's the deal. He's
been charged, he hasn't been indicted. This has not gone
to a grand jury. They have not factored in the evidence.

(41:43):
You've heard Carmelo sit there and say, there are other
witnesses there to describe. I'm sitting here. I saw one
particular to what Dominique said. Somebody posted this tweet. Don't
pull it up please. Somebody said Austin Metcalf should.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Have lost his life.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
But his own brother went on TV and said he
started the altercation both verbally and physically. Guess what that
video If he did that, that video is going to
be introduced to a grand jewelry.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Go ahead.

Speaker 18 (42:18):
Absolutely, so many thoughts going through my mind right now.
The first thing that I want to say is the
Carmelo's mother's words are just like stinging right now, the
way that her tone changed when she talked about her
thirteen year old daughter being afraid to sleep in their
own to being afraid to sleep in our own bit,

(42:40):
I could not help but to recall these moments, you know,
that I heard about growing up. You know, you don't
think that in twenty twenty five, these are the sorts
of stories that we're hearing in real time. But here
we are, this is our reality. This is that fictitious

(43:03):
nineteen thirties, nineteen forties, nineteen fifties that they wanted where
they can publicly harangue and hang a black person because
a white life was taken. And I am so sorry
that both of these young boys will be They have

(43:25):
been catapulted into history in a way that neither one
of them deserve.

Speaker 15 (43:32):
So that's one.

Speaker 10 (43:34):
Part of it.

Speaker 15 (43:35):
I don't think either one of these boys, you know.

Speaker 18 (43:38):
Should have to be the byproduct of this kind of
constant racism, this kind of constant anti blackness.

Speaker 15 (43:51):
Secondly, what I want to say is, Greg.

Speaker 18 (43:53):
You made great points, and especially about poisoning the jury.
We are talking about Texas. You know, we are talking
about a red state. We are talking about at a
part of the world where you know, black people are
meant to.

Speaker 15 (44:11):
Be seen and not heard. And then how dare you
take a white life.

Speaker 18 (44:15):
I am happy that they are constantly recalling Kyle Rittenhouse.
I am still incredibly offended by how, you know, many
in the MAGA movement, how they embrace that young man
for taking young lives, for taking lives just because you know,
when I think about stand your ground with Trayvon Martin,

(44:40):
when I think about the countless black lives that have
been lost, right, and then here we have a young
white life that is lost. This is going to get
uglier for the family, unfortunately. And we also need to
figure out a way to not constantly be responding to this.

(45:00):
We need to have a strategy of anticipating this kind
of vitriol, in this kind of racism, and stopping it
in this tracks. I don't know what the answer to
that is. I don't know if it's messaging. I don't
know if it's constantly reminding the public of the facts
and the details and the way that they picked the
way that they wanted to make this young man seem

(45:22):
like he's from a single mother home and it's broken,
and they're and you know they're they're doing the inn
word stuff right like he buying stuff, he doing big
things with the money.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
There's nothing, n Nola, here's the deal. You cannot message this.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
The reality is you cannot anticipate. Well you can, but
you cannot necessarily anticipate how people are going to respond
to a particular story.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
What we do have to understand.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
The thing that you got to that we have to
factor in the reality is it is still white and
black in America. As you were talking, as Great was talking,
I was thinking about a story that took place twelve
years ago in another high income area in Dallas Fort Worth,

(46:13):
and that case involved the son of Major League baseball
player Give me one second, jumped Tory Hunter.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Same thing. I remember the story.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
That was yesterday And here's the story right here, go
to my iPad. A grand jury has declined to indict
a teenage son of Detroit Tiger's outfield the Tory Hunter,
in a sexual assault case.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Darius McClinton.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Hunter was arrested in May with four others in prosper
north of Dallas and accused of sexual assault. A Collin
County grand jury indiced indicated Wednesday there wasn't enough evidence
to prosecute him. There was a party that took place
and you see it right here, Les that McClinton hunter
co defended Garrick White.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Three boys.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Listen, that's juveniles were involved in a Ford sexual encounter
with several girls. Well, what happened at this year? This
was a party, white girls, black boy. Story blew up
went crazy. Guess what the reaction was seeing that white
boy to jail. It was in Matil all over again,

(47:22):
didn't indict. Well, what happened A couple of months later.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Guess what?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
That son filed a lawsuit in this sexual assault case
right here? Okay, his son was a star athlete. He
had committed to play football and baseball for Notre Dame.
He fouled a ten million dollar lawsuit against the parents
of several of the teenage girls from the town of

(47:50):
prosper Now, I don't know what the result of that
lawsuit is, but I remember when that story dropped.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
And guess what.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
High Networth area Prosper Texas deon Sandals used to have
a massive mansion in prosper Texas.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
It's a high net worth area.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
That story was black and white, so I just don't think,
you know, you can sort of predict what will happen
and sort of have a stripe squad ready to jump.
But this is the reality still in America, greg white
and black, especially when you're talking about high income.

Speaker 12 (48:29):
Areas, no question, no question, and you know it's it's
really tragic.

Speaker 16 (48:36):
We're in the graduation season and this boy has been
expelled according to the reports that I read by the
Frisco Independent School District under some policy they call Title five.
But they do say that he can still be graduated
early from some JJAEP program, so he will probably be

(49:01):
able to be graduated if I'm reading a policy correctly.
Even though he is banned from school property, it's like
he had completed all the requirements.

Speaker 12 (49:10):
So now it's just a matter of him being graduated.

Speaker 16 (49:13):
But imagine that, as we say, as you say, doctor Haynes,
as you say no, there are two.

Speaker 12 (49:17):
Young men whose lives are irrevocably changed.

Speaker 16 (49:20):
One of course, has been is dead, and the other
faces of the fight of his young life. It is
a tragedy and at the same time, because we live
in an ongoing criminal enterprise called the United States of America.
And I call it an ongoing criminal enterprise for the
very specific reason that it was born in settling colonial violence.

(49:44):
White supremacist, white native is white nationalist violence. And despite
our best efforts to root it out, root that out,
and certainly renegotiate the terms of the place, that persistent
white nativism is either going to be as we heard
one of you the comment a moment ago and the
clip you play, either that's going to be the death
of this country or overcoming it will be the salvation

(50:07):
of this country.

Speaker 12 (50:08):
But one thing is for sure.

Speaker 16 (50:10):
Until that thing that is at the heart of this
country is faced and addressed, then it's going to continue
to return. If this were three years ago, it would
be no less tragic, but it might be less explosive.
But the simple fact of the matter is that as
you say no, you know it's in Texas. The governor

(50:32):
of Texas, the Attorney General of Texas, the Texas legislature,
as racist as they have been over the arc of
the last generation, is now feeling its oats in a
way that if this were this time a year ago,
even it would not be the same This will be
weaponized in a way that probably we haven't seen in
maybe a couple of generations, simply because these folks are

(50:55):
now fighting for their ideological lives. And so what does
a grand jury look like? As we say, what does
jury selection look like if it gets to a jury,
and what does it look like if his defense team
I'm talking about Carmelo Anthony's defense team argues comes up
with a brilliant strategy and the facts layout to the
point that the grand jury, if it is indeed brought

(51:17):
to a grand jury, chooses not to indict. Do they
have to leave Texas? Do other people get involved in
terms of violence? In other words, if we go back
and finally, if we go back to the eighteen fifties,
even at the lead up to the Civil War, the
little incidents continue to build until these things spill over
into something that might just be inevitable. We might just

(51:38):
end up having to have a fight in this country.
And if we look back in five years or ten
years or six months and say this was another step
in that direction, I don't think any of us would
be surprised.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Well, I just really need people to understand that what
do you see play out, is America white, black income,
all that sort of stuff, and again, how America sees

(52:11):
it white America. Immediately, these folks immediately went to black
thug kills, clean cut, all American football star, white student.
That's literally how this was framed. And then and early
on a lot of black people were not talking about
this case.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
I need people watching to understand.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
The New York Post, Fox News, they were trumpeting this
story consistently, and then you begin to see black people going, hey, hey,
hold up, what the hell is going on here? Then
you begin to see the response. And then when again
I don't know if this is from the family, the

(52:56):
Free Camelo and then what was the emealiate reaction? Condemnation?
How dare they raise money for this killer?

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Y'all?

Speaker 1 (53:07):
This is nothing but American history playing out. So you
can call this, immit till you can call this States
Boro boys, you could call this any number of cases.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
White boy killed by a black boy.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Oh no, black boy gotta go to jail, gotta get
a death penalty. But that's also why there's a legal system.
And folks are mad because of Dominique Alexander and they're
bringing up his past. They're pulling up what he did
in the past. And you know what folks are doing.
They pull up the past of Austin Metcalf's daddy. All

(53:45):
this stuff is going on before our very eyes. At
the end of the day, it's classic America. It's black
and it's white. It's race gotta go to break. Folks
who we come back will continue the attack on the
Harvard by Donald Trump. I'm telling you right now, HBCUs, beware,

(54:10):
you could be next.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
I will explain.

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Speaker 1 (56:29):
Hatred on the Streets, a horrific scene white nationalists rally
that descended into deadly violence.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Were white people are moving their their minds.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
As a mangay pro Trump Mark storms to the US
capital Up. We're about to see the lives where I
call white minority resistance.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
You have seen white folks in.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
This country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of
violence denial.

Speaker 12 (57:00):
This is part of American history.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Every time that people of color and the progress, whether
real or symbolic, there has been.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
But Carol Anderson at every university calls white rage as
a backlash.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Is the wife of the Proud Boys and the Boogaaloo
Boys America.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
There's going to be more of this.

Speaker 18 (57:18):
Proud This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors
and its attitudes because of the fear of white people.

Speaker 16 (57:27):
The food that they're taking our job, they're taking out
our resourcers, they're taking out women.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
This is white being Hi.

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Speaker 3 (57:57):
I'm filter stay woke, all right, folks.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
We have been covering this story of these crazy maga
demented thugs and how they have been attacking, if you will,
they've been attacking Ivy League institutions and so under the
guys of just so yeah, no, I'm.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
Actually looking I'm about to pull something up. So that's
why I'm talking to you.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
I'm looking down so under the guys of anti Semitism,
they have been threatening to withhole funds and resources to
these Ivy League institutions. Columbia, they went after them at
Columbia actually buckled and agreed to a list of demands
from the Trump administration. They have been doing the same

(58:53):
to other institutions. One of the institutions in their crosshairs
is Harvard University. Now, what they've been doing with Harvard
is quite interesting. Uh, They've been they have been attacking Harvard,
declaring that well they.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Are Harvard is to uh to violent.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
They Harvard is not protecting They're not protecting the black
excuse to me be the Jewish students at Harvard, and
so uh they the Trump administration is withholding They're withholding
uh some two point two billion dollars. Let me say

(59:36):
it again, two point two billion dollars from Harvard as
a result.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Now check this out.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
This is a Wall Street Journal article that dropped today,
the iPad. Trump threatens Harvard's ability to eat enroll international students.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Can I y'all understand something? So one, they threaten you
need to make changes. No stay iPad.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Two, they said, Harvard, We're going to take your tax
exempt status. Harvard has a fifty three billion dollar endowment.
Conservatives were saying tax endowment. Now here's this. Now here's
what it says. Harvard enrolls ten thousand international students, and

(01:00:24):
like many US universities, it relies on their tuition payments,
often full freight. But here is the thing, the previous
paragraph that I want to focus on in this conversation.
The threat arrived Wednesday in the form of a letter

(01:00:45):
from Homeland Security Secretary Christy nom after Harvard on Monday
refused to comply with demands made by the administration. And
here's the cleague. Here's the including of the university quote
under federal oversight audit end quotes, audit the viewpoints of faculty,

(01:01:13):
student and staff. Harvard president Alan Garber called the demands
an a legal attack on the school's independence. Now let
me unpack. This is not about anti semitism. This is
not about protecting Jewish students. The right has always believed

(01:01:36):
that Harvard is the bastion of liberal ideology and that
if we could take down there. This is their thinking.
The premier liberal institution that graduates these individuals who then

(01:01:57):
go on to assume major positions of power in America.
If we could either take them down and then force
them to hire or force them to recruit a ton

(01:02:19):
of conservatives, then we've won.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Now let me roll it back.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Remember at my alma mater, Texas University, when they wanted
to hire Kathleen McElroy to run the journalism department. The
week costume journalists department, two members of the board of
trustees were texting each other and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
They said, they said, I thought.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
We were bringing the journalism and department back in order
to train conservatives to be in media.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
I need y'all to pay attention.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
They've been demanding. As matter of fact, I'm gonna find it.
In a second Warner Discovery which you're on seeing inn
a story was done and the question was asked, Hey,
what can we do to curry favor with the Trump administration?

(01:03:35):
This was I think this also was a Washington excuse me,
a Wall Street journal story. In that story, let me
see here it is, go to my iPad, it said.
And now as he and John Malone, he is David
zaslof the CEO of Warner Discovery. As he and John

(01:03:57):
Malone look to trade their way out of the tight
spot of the business, they may need Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
WBD, that's Warner Brothers.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Discovery confirmed that a company representative recently reached out to
the Trump Orbit seeking advice about how the company might
advantageously interact with the White House and.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Improve its Trump age older.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
The reported message was to look at the example of
Amazon and Jeff Bezos paying Milania Trump forty million dollars
to participate in a documentary about herself. Don Junior might
like a hunting and fishing show on the Discovery Channel.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
They were told.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
And that CNN could have more pro Trump voices.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Suggestion provided what am I laying out?

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Everybody knows that Donald Trump is transactional that in order
to get what you want. Well, if you could cut
a deal with Trump get what you want?

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
You think lying? How about this here?

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Donald Trump swing Paramount because of an interview come a
vice presid Kama Harris did.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
Paramount the parent company of CBS sixty minutes. They are
trying to be sold.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
They need the Department of Justice and the Federal Trade
Commission to sign off on it. So what they're doing
is they are considering settling the lawsuit, even though they
know it's BS. They're considering settling the lawsuit in order

(01:06:17):
to curry favor. What does this story say? Four law
firms who don't mister Trump leveled executive orders against have
fought them in court, all quickly receiving rulings from.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Federal judges who typically halted them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
But now that nine firms have agreed to deals and
committed to nearly one billion dollars worth of pro bono
legal work. And keep in mind, stay don't see my iPad.
Those deals are for things that Trump wants them to do.
Go back to the story, Some Trump advisors have started
having discussions about a range of options for what the

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firm's lawyers.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Can be deployed to work on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
According to two people briefing the matter, could include sending
the lawyers to help Elon Musk the Department of Government Efficiency,
or deploying them to aid the Justice Department. They said,
Trump administration may seek to have a federal judge and
force any deal it reaches with Clumbing University, and an

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arrangement that could ensure that the White House has a
hand in the school's dealings for years to come, according
to four people with knowledge of the matter, So why
am I laying this out.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Today?

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
There was a discussion in the Oval Office regarding the Congo.
Now the Congo is engaged in a war, they need
military resources. Trump said, Okay, you want our military resources,
you've got to give up minerals. Remember what he wanted

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from Zelensky Ukraine. They wanted Ukraine to give up five
hundred billion dollars in minerals for continued aid. Here's Trump
talking about the Congo in the Oval Office.

Speaker 15 (01:08:19):
All over the world, the Congo and Africa.

Speaker 12 (01:08:22):
Many many people come from the Congo.

Speaker 16 (01:08:24):
I don't know what that is, but they came from
the Congo and all over the world they came in
opened it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Okay, So here he is discussing this, who do they deploy?

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Remember Eric Prince, the mercenary, exclusive Trump supporter. Prince reaches
deal with Congo to help secure mineral wealth.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
He founded Blackwater.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Eric Prince has agreed to help Democratic Republic of Congo
secure and tax its vast mineral.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
Wealth, and he will help them protect them. Y'all. Where
the HBCUs come in.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
If the Trump administration can attack Harvard and try to
extract demands and force them to be under a federal
audit of the viewpoints of student, faculty, and staff, HBCUs
do not stand a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
We warned you, We warned.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
You that HBCUs, especially public HBCUs, were vulnerable in Red states.
Where are most of our HBCUs. North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida, Mississippi, Texas, Arkansas.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
There are other.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Places, but the vast majority of HBCUs are located in
the South and the southeast, all red states. What then
happens if Trump and MAGA say, I'm sick of these
voter registration drives at these Negro schools. I'm sick of

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these protests being organized at these Negro schools. We then
will put pressure on the administration to shut it down.
Do you think that's going to have an impact in
twenty twenty six, when Senator Tom Tillis is up for
reelection in North CA Carolina. Do you think it's going

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to be having an impact in Georgia where Senator John
Osoff is likely to face Georgia Governor Brian Kemp.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Nola. I'm very clear.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
If they can bring Colombia to its knees, and then
they can do all use the federal the power of
the federal government to try to bring Harvard and Mit
to its needs. There is not a single HBCU that
can withstand that type of assault. The threat to HBCU

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advocacy for black people is real.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
You're on mute.

Speaker 15 (01:11:52):
I'm not on mute.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
There you go.

Speaker 15 (01:11:55):
I wasn't on mute. So if this.

Speaker 18 (01:12:00):
Is why I'm so happy that Harvard and a lot
of the other Big ten schools decided to do what
they did. They understand what's at stake If they do
what Columbia did.

Speaker 15 (01:12:11):
Essentially, there is no more America.

Speaker 18 (01:12:13):
I mean, what we're witnessing white right now is a
thug in a white house. We are witnessing extortion in
real time. We are witnessing the weaponization of all of
these different agencies to be used for Donald Trump's benefit,
I mean, and for his family's benefit, and broad daylight
and broad daylight. And this is where you have to

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stand up against the bully. And this is what Harvard
got right this time. This is why I am I
have on my Harvard hat today as an alum. Right,
this is what they got right this time. This is
one of the moments, This will be one of the
seminal moments when we look back on this time that
Harvard stood up on the right side of democracy, and

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so did a lot of other schools. This is going
to be the legal case, This will be the situation
to watch for quite some time. And I am just
happy that Harvard took this stance and other schools followed,
because this really is a fight.

Speaker 15 (01:13:11):
This is a fight.

Speaker 18 (01:13:12):
There literally is a want to be mobster in office
and doing this stuff in broad daylight.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Hey, Greg, I need people to understand something I don't
give a damn about Harvard. I believe that the fundamental
problem in this country is that it is a leadist country.
That this country believes that if you did not go

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to an Ivy League school, you are less than There
is a belief that if you did not attend Yale Law,
Harvard Law, Cornell Law, Columbia Law, and you can't be
a Supreme Court justice. In fact, I was told, and
I'm going to reach out to some people who know

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Judge Katanji Brown Jackson, I was told that the only
Supreme Court justice who hires non Ivy League clerks it
is Clarence Thomas.

Speaker 15 (01:14:21):
It's true.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
That means that even Judge Katanji Brown Jackson would not
consider a Howard Law student or a black law student
who's high ranked from University of Texas or Southern methdis
University or some other law school in the country.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
So what that says, and so I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
That Grid because power protects power, and so if you
never create space for people who are not from an
Ivy League institute, what you're saying is if you go
to any of the law school you're not as brilliant
as anybody at one of those law schools, and I
believe that to be an absolute fallacy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
But that's a whole separate store.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
The concern that I have here is that there is
not a single You take the Spellman Endowment, the Howard Endowment,
and the Hampton Endowment, and you combine those three and
they don't even come close to the lowest Ivy League indictment.

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If the Trump Maga administration sets its sites and wants
to sink its teeth into HBCUs, our institutions stand no
chance against that type of assault.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
We had better wake.

Speaker 12 (01:15:51):
Up those institutions.

Speaker 16 (01:15:56):
Roland were a fraction of the day alments of those
white schools in the nineteen thirties and forties when they
produced the undergraduates like Thurgard Marshal at Lincoln University, like
Oliver Hill and Spotswood Robinson and Howard University School of
Law that killed Jim Crow. Those HBCUs had a fraction

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of those endowments in the nineteen sixties, seventies and eighties
when they produced the student movements and the bringing black
intellectuals on those faculties that literally rewrote the cultural DNA
of this country.

Speaker 12 (01:16:27):
Those HBCUs have nothing in the bank.

Speaker 16 (01:16:32):
Compared to Harvard, to Yale, to the flagship state schools today.
But what they do have is not economic, but it's moral, cultural,
and it is intellectual. You're right about Katanji Brown Jackson.
Shortly after Sonya Soto Mayor was sworn in, she came
to speak at Howard Law and you know, we were
there the faculty to.

Speaker 12 (01:16:52):
Students, and.

Speaker 16 (01:16:55):
She said that she didn't like the Ivy League bent.
And yet we still see what clerks she has selected.

Speaker 12 (01:17:02):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 16 (01:17:03):
Somebody else who never hired a clerk from an HBCU
or Howard University, and specific specifically that would be a
man named Thurgert Marshall. Let me be very clear, the
whole time Marshall was on the Supreme Court of Nastates,
he did not hire one clerk from the institution that
he got his own law degree under under Charles Hamilton Houston,
who himself graduated from Harvard Law.

Speaker 12 (01:17:23):
So let me be very clear about how the internal
sickness of blackness.

Speaker 16 (01:17:28):
I saw Justice Brown Jackson a couple of weeks ago
at the installment of the new dean at Howard Law School.

Speaker 12 (01:17:34):
Of course, our fred brother.

Speaker 16 (01:17:37):
Roger Fairfax, whose brother is our fret brother as well,
of course the good brother Justin Fairfax, who was there.
I expect that that may soon change at Howard University,
if for no other reason than Katanji Brown Jackson and
Roger Fairfax went to law school together, as did her
roommate at the time, Roger Fairfax is white, professor Leisa Fairfax,

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who was on the Fact of the Universeynsylvania.

Speaker 12 (01:18:00):
But it speaks to that little word that you raised, Roland.

Speaker 16 (01:18:03):
Which is a nasty little word, that five letter word elite, elite. Unfortunately,
we live in not a meritocracy, but a kleptocracy with
a very strong elite bent. And I share Nola your enthusiasm,
and I think all of our enthusiasm because Harvard finally

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did what you have to do with punk ass bullies,
which just punched them dead in a face. And very
quickly after that, or right around the same time, the
Yale faculty said, and mind you, now, let's be very
clear about what we're witnessing. Now, this isn't the administration,
this isn't the president, this isn't the trustees, this is
the faculties. See, because Lawrence tried Professor Merritan's over at
Harvard Law School. The whole fact, they're looking like, hey man,

(01:18:46):
you messing with our reputation. Now do you understand not
only in this funky little country called the United States
of America, but globally. You see, it needs something to
be associated with, a brand that stands for a question
of intellectual and ding dependence and freedom of expression. There is,
after all, until they throw it completely out a first
amendity Uni States Constitution. So Larry tribing them was like, nah,

(01:19:09):
y'all gonna change. And then Yale's faculty has now said, yeah,
what they're gonna do. And if y'all followed the IVY
League close, you know, as Harvard goes, Yale goes, and
it's hard and venting, Yale goes, it keeps coming down.
Columbia played itself friends, so by the time it gains
the Brown and Dartmouth, the IVY League would come along.
But no, you made a very important point when you
said those big ten schools, Because what happened with the
faculty senate at the University of Nebraska Lincoln, what happened

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at Rutgers, what happened at Indiana University Bloomington, What has
happened now is the Big ten alliance, which is eighteen
schools and tooting two public institutions and flagship schools.

Speaker 12 (01:19:41):
Because then now.

Speaker 16 (01:19:42):
They're talking at Michigan State and Lansing at Ohio State
where I went to law school in Columbus, and they're saying,
oh no, this is it. Let them punk ass law
firms that you mentioned that bent the knee too early. See,
because Harvard did what it did this week, I think
we might just be able now to see a sea chain.
And finally, our HBCUs can absolutely participate in that sea change,

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even deep behind the cotton curtain, with the one resource
we have that none of them have more of, and
that is guts. If we go and look at the model,
not of Harvard, not of Yale, but of the HBCU
models of the nineteen thirties, forties, and fifties, where in
spite of conservative leadership as conservative then as HBCU leadership

(01:20:26):
is today, the faculties of those institutions did not flinch.
Can we recover Can we recover the courage of a
James Farmer senior at a place like Wiley College. Can
we recover the courage of a Benjamin Mays at moor
House or the courage of an oak Wood, the courage

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of an Eva, Marie Dykes at Eva, Beatrice Dikes at Oakwood.
If we have our models, we don't need look at
No White Schools and Roland. I think we can win that.
But it's gonna You're right, We're gonna have to wake
up and take some courage.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
See any people understand why we're having this conversation. Yeah,
this goes back to by Washington Watch days. There were
so many times when we talked about stuff on Washington
Watch and News one now on this show, and mainstream
media figured it out.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Two three four weeks two three four months later.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
I mean I blasted mediaite because they hyped up Meghan
Kelly criticizing Christi Noan for playing dress up in Department
Homeland Security, and I said, wild media, I y'all late.
I hit that two weeks ago, y'all. I'm telling y'all.
What I'm letting out to y'all is prophetic. It's going

(01:21:40):
to happen. I'm telling you it's going to happen. But
I need y'all to understand. The money go to my iPad.
Anthony the Top ten. This is from HBCU.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Money dot Com.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
The top ten HBCU endowments total is two point six billion.
The top ten PWI endowments is three hundred and thirty
six billion. The number of p wis Predominant White institutions
above two billion dollars endowment is seventy eight. The number

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of HBCUs above one billion is one. The number of
pwis above one billion is one hundred and forty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
I'm just trying to show y'all the numbers. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
If I go IVY League, this is twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
I told you y'all. I just show y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
The top ten HBCUs combined have an endowment of two
point six billion. One of them is a billion. Should
that means the other nine represents the other one point
six billion. Brown University is the lowest IVY League and

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its endowment is six point six billion. So the endowment
of Brown the lowest IVY League. And I'll go back
Brown six point six called Columbia thirteen point six, Cornel
ten billion, Harvard fifty billion, Presston thirty four billion, Yale
forty billion, Dartmouth is seven point nine billion. University of

(01:23:19):
Pennsylvania twenty one billion. See Harvard at Harvard's actually nine
fifty three billion. This was This was twenty twenty three. Harvard,
by having fifty three billion can tell Trump to go
to hell. Yeah, because they can say we will fund
that two point two billion dollars loss in federal grants

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for the next three years and work to make sure
a Republican does not win in twenty twenty eight. They
can whether that's if Harvard returns ten percent on their investments,
that's five billion dollars a year.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
The federal grants are two point two billion.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
I'm telling y'all, right now, be prepared for the Trump
administration or a conservative governor saying, HBCU, get your ass
in line, don't be threatening presidents and provos, don't have
too many protests, don't make too much noise.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
I'm just trying to warn.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Y'all that if they could go after Harvard and Columbia
and Ivan Leeds and MIT, and go after the most
prominent law firms in the country and get them to
bend their knee, you got Mark Zuckerberg worth billions of
dollars trying to bend the knee to keep that Federal
Trade Commission Settlement as low as possible. You just had

(01:24:45):
today in Washington, d C. Give me a second. Let
me pull it up where a federal ruling against Google
and an anti trust lawsuit declaring that they actually have

(01:25:10):
a monopoly.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Y'all need to understand there's.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
A reason all them billionaires were lined up at the inauguration.

Speaker 15 (01:25:18):
And he's gonna humiliate all of them, right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
So he look with the law firms, he's already gotten
concessions and saying I want more, I want more, I
want more. So I just need our people prepared. That's right,
that they're going to attack black institutions. So if there
ever was a time for black institutions to be aligned

(01:25:43):
and for black people to understand the fight we're about
to face if they're undoing a settlement.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
See, this is why I went.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Off and see y'all told y'all you know, I talked
to folks on all kinds of different sides.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
See.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
I love these people who claim, man, you're a democratic shield. No, no, no,
I mean for black people.

Speaker 15 (01:26:05):
I just got called that on Blue Sky.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
I mean whatever that they stupid, we plight for black people.
So whether you did a Republican I've said to black people,
we still constituents. Trump still should be funding HBCUs the
same way Biden Harris did. We still constituents, So understand

(01:26:28):
today I sent an email, I sent a text.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
First of I sent a series of tweets.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Then I text him because Darryl Scott passed to Darryl
Scott out of Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
He he posted.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
A tweet and is his His tweet was go ahead
my I woke up to a call from President Trump
this morning. We talked about a lot of stuff, politics,
tar sports, had a lot of laughs. One thing stood out,
he said. He He said, quote last administration, I was

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fighting for survival and the country.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
This time I'm fighting only for the country. That's my dude.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Okay, So I responded, okay, past to Scott, did you
ask Trump why he counselor DOJ lawsuit against petro chemical
companies in Louisiana that are killing black people in the
area called cancer Alley Hey passed the Scott that you
asked truck while he called a deal in Lowndes County
in the Legal Dei Settlement, ninety eight hundred mostly black

(01:27:36):
hotel black people have had ross sewage backed up into
their homes and yard due to lack of an infrastructure
investment by Alabama. Also passed the Scott that you asked
Donald Trump wise hood cancer investigation in Harris County, Texas,
where the Biden has administration said the state refused a
billion dollars in hurricane relief to a black and brown county.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Also, Darryl Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
That you asked Trump why his DJ pulled out of
a lawsuit allegend black and Browns were disenfranchised in the
twenty twenty one Texas Redistrict Team. Hey, Pastor Scott, that
you asked Donald Trump why he won't put pressure on
Republican governors in red states to pay HBCU land grants
the thirteen billion they are old, and you asked him
why seventeen million in the grants were canceled at FAMI

(01:28:17):
Use pharmacyt School. Here is what I know, Pastor Scott,
Tim Scott, Byron donalds Burgess, Owned Wesley Hunt, Cherise Lane,
the Cardier Folks, Hodge Twins, David Harris, Joseph Pion won't
say a damn thing about these issues. Y'all Black maga
tut how great he is. So let's see y'all speak
up now. Pastor the Scott. If you're gonna go hard

(01:28:39):
at Charlie Kirk for his racist attack on MK and
black doctors and pilots and call off the foolishes of
cannas owns.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
Let's see you speak up on the issues I outlined
our Wait.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
So five hours ago, I see, he responded, No, he
told me to tell you to call him. Then he
later tweeted, saw I didn't realize. See did I see
the tweet? He said, But I saw it earlier he said,
Oh I didn't know I worked for you.

Speaker 17 (01:29:12):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Y'all know I'm about to go ahead and respond, So
let me just go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
Uh you know I'm gonna respond on I'm gonna respond
on Twitter in a second. Now, let me just go
ahead and respond to his ass live, you know, because see,
I just a firm believer in y'all that sometimes you
just got to go ahead.

Speaker 19 (01:29:31):
Uh well, Scott, let me find it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
Well, Darrel, Scott, I.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
Dare you to set up a one on one live
interview with me and Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
My studio.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Is two blocks from the White House. Pick the day
and time. Hold up one on one live interview. We
can go two hours or longer, and me and my

(01:30:43):
so y'all know, I ain't scared. My Black Star Network
team will be there. I'll ask him.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
All of this directly. Let's see here.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Since my thing is I'm over characters, let me go
ahead and edit period.

Speaker 12 (01:31:14):
Boom.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Let's see if he responds. See, y'all, here's the whole deal.
This is the hope I'm talking about. These black maga
people do not represent black people. No of these black
maga people are not going to fight for black people.
These black maga people love to go to white house functions,

(01:31:38):
love to say all run their miles. They love to
come to the black community and go on black radio
and talk Trump all he doing for black folk. But
when you ask them directly about very specific actions Trump
has taken that have a detrimental impact on black people,
all of a sudden they get quiet. Now Scott knows,

(01:32:01):
he texts me all. He sent me text messages when
he was going after Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
He sent me.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
Text messages he's going after Kennis Owens. But it's amazing
how he responded to this text message.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
I guess he looked too busy.

Speaker 18 (01:32:18):
You know, I always think about this, you know, even
going all the way back to slavery days. You know,
you always had those black folks who was going to
sell you out to Massive.

Speaker 15 (01:32:26):
It's still the same folks, the same way.

Speaker 18 (01:32:28):
We are still dealing with the same sort of militia
folks you know from the Civil War, the same sort
of races.

Speaker 15 (01:32:33):
The same sort of white supremacists.

Speaker 18 (01:32:35):
It's the same sort of black folk who absolutely would
have sold all the slaves out who were trying to escape.
It's the same sort of mindset. You know, if you
cozy up to Massive, you know, if you think that,
you know, he feels like you're on his or her side,
then you will get all the benefits of whiteness.

Speaker 15 (01:32:54):
That has never worked.

Speaker 18 (01:32:55):
It won't work, and I genuinely don't know what they
get out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
You know.

Speaker 18 (01:33:01):
The thing for me, which is really sad, the amount
of self hatred you must have inside of yourself to
sell your soul, to sell, to sell out your community.

Speaker 15 (01:33:13):
You know, like that.

Speaker 18 (01:33:15):
I wish you well, I wish you know, thoughts and prayers,
peace and blessings. That's all that's that's literally all I
have for you. That's literally all I got.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Well, how shall I put this?

Speaker 12 (01:33:26):
Greg?

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
I agree, but the only point where I will disagree.
Let me just be real clear. Is I believe that
if you are going to be in.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
The room and you claim and you claim.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
You love black people, then show it.

Speaker 7 (01:34:04):
M hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
There should be some proof now for some reason.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Wait wait wait wait hold wait wait wait wait wait
wait wait wait, let me finish. I'm gonna use an example.
I can't find the interview. I'm gonna find the interview.
But this is an interview. This is at Dick Gregory's funeral.

(01:34:31):
When I interview, Come on, guys, I need Anthony. Come on,
thank you, y'all got to keep up. Now, come on,
I know I need you to just go to it.
This is an interview of me and Bob Brown. A
lot of black folks ain't got no clue who Bob
Brown is. Bob Brown worked with doctor King. Bob Brown

(01:34:56):
got a phone Bob Brown. And when doctor King was
hitting companies, the companies who try to cause the money black,
how can we fix this problem? They were called Bob Brown.
They didn't know that Bob Brown was working with doctor
King was on the board. Doctor King called Bob Brown
our secret weapon operation of bread Basket. Go listen to
his August nineteen sixty seven speech to SEOC, where do

(01:35:18):
we go from here?

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
A cancel community? He literally says it in the speech.
Nixon wins.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
In sixty eight, Bob Brown gets a call from Nixon.
Nixon literally calls Bob Brown and offers him a job,
no title, but Bob Brown's portfolio was one of the
biggest in the White House. Nixon made it clear if
Bob Brown asked for something, give it to him.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Bob Brown wrote in his book that was a meeting.
That was a meeting, and that was.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
These white generals who were ignoring Bob Brown because Bob
Brown felt that how you're gonna have the seventy fifth
anniversary of something with military, wasn't no black four star generals.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
Bob Brown said, no, We're go have a black four star.
I think it was. I think that was a chappie.
I think that was chappie.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
The white generals blew Bob Brown off. Bob Brown total
chief of staff went in told Nixon. Nixon called generals in.
When Bob Brown asked something, you give it to him.
Earl Graves was short of money. Earl Grays was short
of money to launch Black enterprise. The white conservatives in

(01:36:32):
the Mixing and Knicks administration would not give Ed Graves
a grant. Bob Brown custom out and said give him
the money. That's how he say lost Black enterprise. They
didn't want to give Earl Grays the money because Earl
Graves has worked for Robert Kennedy junior Robert F.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
Kennedy. So all I'm saying is, if you're gonna be
black and.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
Maga be light black conservatives of Black Republicans who we've
on for generations, who actually loved black people and actually
pushed and product on behalf of black people to get
things for black people.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
They weren't there just to get in vice to Barlargo
greg O.

Speaker 12 (01:37:18):
It's true.

Speaker 16 (01:37:19):
I mean, but we all know and Roland you know
this more intimately than most, having spent time with people
like Bob Brown, and encourage people to read Bob Brown's
memoir that he wrote recently.

Speaker 12 (01:37:32):
You can't go wrong doing right.

Speaker 16 (01:37:34):
Arthur Fletcher, who's called the father of affirmative action, his son.

Speaker 12 (01:37:40):
I saw his son a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 16 (01:37:42):
I was at Morehouse in Atlanta, who's working on a
memoir bio of his father. And David Hamilton Collins recent
Book of a Terrible Thing to Waste, Arthur Fletcher and
the Conundrum of the Black Republican. Those were Black Republicans,
Jack Roosevelt Robinson who walked away from the party because
of Nick and then what he saw as the move
white in the wake of the Barry Goldwater messages of

(01:38:04):
the nineteen sixties mid sixties. But that's not where Darryl
Scott is. Darryl Scott is a is dancing on a string.
He has no political philosophy. His political philosophy is what's
good for me as an individual, and that's truly unfortunate.
That's not what Kennis owns is they're not conservatives. They're grifters.
And I can respect the grift because I think that's

(01:38:26):
what a lot of people have when they don't have
a political philosophy. You know, you're striking such a resonant
chord tonight, brother, because what we're really talking about is
black institutions, and we're talking about fear. The Trump administration
is trafficking in fear. And when you traffick in fear
like that, you know what you're relying on is to

(01:38:46):
tap into people's fear that they will be hurt.

Speaker 12 (01:38:49):
It reminds me of.

Speaker 16 (01:38:50):
A song they used to sing during a snack movement there,
the Battle of Uncle Tom, and the lyrics are like,
I'm an Uncle Tom.

Speaker 12 (01:38:56):
Lord, that's what the people say, But I ain't no
Uncle Tom. I'm just a little afraid.

Speaker 16 (01:39:02):
So help me, Lord, to stand up and be a man,
and I'll fight segregation as long as I can.

Speaker 12 (01:39:07):
And the idea is we're talking about fear.

Speaker 16 (01:39:10):
There are people who will say, well, we shouldn't talk
about fighting, and is it going to be violent and
what you're gonna do?

Speaker 12 (01:39:16):
I would say that those people don't be scared.

Speaker 16 (01:39:18):
You don't love your master, you're scared of You don't
love your master, you're scared of her.

Speaker 12 (01:39:23):
But as soon as you lose.

Speaker 16 (01:39:25):
Your fear, and this is how you lose your fear,
You lose your fear by coming together with other people.

Speaker 12 (01:39:30):
The more people we joined, the less fear we have.

Speaker 16 (01:39:35):
Last night, around six pm, around the time we went
on the air tonight, probably a couple of dozen Howard
students put up a couple of tents and created what
they would call them the People's University on campus, and
some of the administrators at Howard approached them and asked
what they were doing, and then here come the damn
Metro Police Department and the Howard police saying what are

(01:39:58):
y'all doing? And they were encouraged to take the tents
down that they stayed to about four o'clock this morning.

Speaker 12 (01:40:04):
We got a.

Speaker 16 (01:40:05):
Letter this morning from how University official communications saying that
how University supports the students right and everybody's right to
have academic freedom and debate and protests, but also saying
that some people that come from the outside and were
prevailing upon these students and had done this. And as
far as I can tell from the students that I
listened to today when I asked about it, because I

(01:40:26):
was in class last night and didn't even find out
about it until this morning, they said it wasn't outside
people that the people they were told, well, there were
Howard students, And so I guess you know what I'm
trying to say now at this point am reinforcing what
you said about historical black colleges and universities earlier, and
in the context of a DARYLD Scott who has no constituency,
who has no community, and it's just a little afraid

(01:40:49):
and listen to everyone watching this, who's just a little afraid,
you know, I know, Uncle Tom, you ain't know, aun Jemima.

Speaker 12 (01:40:53):
You just a little afraid.

Speaker 16 (01:40:56):
Understand this that when you stand together, that when you
join together, we don't have the money.

Speaker 12 (01:41:03):
That Harvard has.

Speaker 16 (01:41:04):
And by the way, Harvard pays for cover's costs. For
anybody who gets enrolled at Harvard, who comes to Harvard
whose families make two hundred thousand dollars and less, that's
what kind of money they have. And that applies to
international students too. So yes, there are international students who
come to Harvard and write the check. But if your
family makes less than two in one thousand dollars a year,

(01:41:25):
you go to Harvard with no incurring of debt, so
they are well fortified. Well, you can't say that. You
can't say that it's still me And you can't say
that with our brother Walter kimbro as you were talking
with him last week.

Speaker 12 (01:41:41):
You can't say that at Talladega. But this is what
you can say.

Speaker 16 (01:41:45):
The same communities that surrounded the city of Montgomery when
Joeanne Robinson, a professor of English at Alabama State University
and the Women's Political Council of Montgomery launched and sustained
Emory busboycott. The same communities that poured resources into them,
that fed students, that put together the money to be

(01:42:07):
able to sustain the boycott. Those communities can step up again,
Rodand those people who send you envelopes of money, the
money that folds and the money that generals, those that
cash out, those who make the annual donation are the
monthly donation. Those who press money in your hands at
airports and in rail railroad stations.

Speaker 12 (01:42:25):
Those people are.

Speaker 16 (01:42:26):
The ones that will make sure not only that we
endure it, but that we overwhelm these folks. Because when
you punch your bully back, when you lose your fear
and punch them back, that's when you realize that you
shouldn't have been afraid at any point. It's not about anger,
it's about fear. And we can overcome our fear together.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
You know, Nola. In Trump's first.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
Run a monk in the old office, he only had
one black top aid. And see, I need people to
understand again, when I ain't new to this, I'm true
to this.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
See, I love all the folks. These audis are kicking
my behind. I love all the folk.

Speaker 1 (01:43:22):
Who don't understand how we roll and how black media
has rolled. When Wright's previous ran the Republican National Committee,
they had a Black History Month program and I got
I got invited. It was actually at the Republican the

(01:43:43):
house they have, I mean where they had they club. Now,
when I walked in, all the black people, what's not rolling?
All black people who worked there. So we go into
the room, all these black Republicans and I remember that
was this one girl. She was a fake black Republican.
Her name was Crystal. She used to be on my
show sometimes and.

Speaker 3 (01:44:05):
Krystal was mad.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
She got mad because when I walked into the room,
all these black Republicans were walking up to me greeting me,
and they sat me between Rice Prebus and David Stewart,
the billionaire out of Saint Louis. And then the next
year they had a program with the Howard Theatre and
they actually asked me.

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
The MCD event with Tara with Tara Wall black.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
Conservative ooh was some what was some negroes really upset man?
But the reason that was hilarious because see what the
fake black is servant didn't realize all these black folks
in that knew me. General's business people, political people. And
I knew them because I knew they were real black Republicans.

(01:44:50):
So when Omarosa rolled into the White House with Trump
last time, I literally I said listen. I came staying
his punk ass. I said, if you're gonna be there
be some use to black people.

Speaker 3 (01:45:07):
I said, he loved golf.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
I said, won't you have him put some extra money
in the interior budget for the black golf course in
DC that folk don't really the historic black golf course
in Washington, d C. That people don't realize it's actually
under the Department of Interior and not the City.

Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
Of Washington and not Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
I said, I said, you're gonna do something. I said,
be a Bob Brown. I said, get his book. I said,
matter of fact, call Bob Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
You know what I did. I called Bob Brown. It's
a Bible. You meet.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
He's like, yeah, I'll meet with her. Never never called
call to my iPad. His other top eight was Jiron Smith.
Trump called him a star, all this sort of stuff,
and this is what he looked like. And he came
on a show, and he came on the show, sounded crazy,
defending bullshit. And I come said, draw draw. I said,
here your problem. See, I said, you defended bullshit. I said,

(01:46:05):
don't defend bullshit. I said Bob Brown was smart enough
not to defend bullshit. I said, if you're gonna be
there be of use to black people. Yes, that's all
matter of fact. I ain't got a problem saying it there, Scott.
I just text his ass. I said, if you're gonna

(01:46:26):
and I send his I send him his little tweet.
I said, oh, your tech stopped working. And I said,
if you're gonna rup black folks have the courage to
be a Bob Brown. And if you don't know him,
you need all caps to read his book and sit
down and all caps learn from him. He was a
real all caps black Republican. I'm waiting for his response.

(01:46:49):
Here's the point I am making. We are still constituents,
and if they're going to be black people who are
around Trump loving Trump stopped doing a jig at Maral
Largo and then make demands. I'm real clear. When I
sat in the room and Biden was in the room,
and Harris was in the room, and I said at

(01:47:12):
the table, when Obama was there, and in two of
the three meetings, I got invited to Trump's first time
I was asking black stuff. I let them other TV
anchors talk about immigration and all the other stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:47:27):
I brought up black stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
And if these black maga folk want to be seen
as legitimate black people, don't just be happy you got invited,
actually black folks. And I just gave y'all four or
five examples of stuff they should be asking of Trump

(01:47:51):
that too many of them are scared to do. No,
Now you got to go go ahead, finish your comment.

Speaker 10 (01:47:56):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:47:57):
Two things that I want to say.

Speaker 18 (01:47:59):
Being from the d South, I'm familiar with Republicans, you know,
and then also being in the profession that I am.
The whole time we were having this conversation, I'm thinking
about Colin Powell, you know, who was a Republican who
absolutely stood on business, you know, when he was in
rooms about black people, and the distinction between maga and

(01:48:20):
traditional conservatives or Republicans. I think that's so salient and important,
and that's what we have to understand a lot of them.
In my personal opinion, they feel rejected by the cool kids.
I mean, when you think about the Kanye West of
the world, who are drawn and his ex girlfriend who
are drawn to the magas is because they feel like, oh,

(01:48:40):
they accept me, I'm not being judged. I can get
an invite to this White House. I couldn't get an
invite to Obama's white House or to Biden Harris's white house. Right,
So this is very different. We're not talking about people
who were raised with a certain set of values. We
are talking about people who feel rejected and they think

(01:49:00):
they and they keep key in at the White House
thinking they doing something cute when they look absolutely ridiculous.
We are talking about two different sets of people, two
different types of people with their standards and and the
reasons why they were Conservatives and Republicans. This is not
that is what I would is what I would submit.
And so these types of personalities, the pick Mes, you know,

(01:49:24):
they're not trying to stand up for black people. They're
not They're not interested in a black agenda. They're not
interested in reparations for real. No, they just want to
be at a white house. They just want to be
included somewhere. They are the pick Me's, which is very
different from a lot of traditional conservative Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:49:45):
Well, I guess I was confused that the pick Mes
sound too much like the picking in is.

Speaker 15 (01:49:51):
But I was, look, pick me is a real thing.

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
It's not mine.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
No, I mean, I'm just I'm say standing. Its sounded
real close. It sounded real close to that other phrase. NOA,
I know you have to go. I appreciate it. Thank
you so very much. That was so many other things, Greg,
let me thank you for being on the show as well.
It was a whole bunch of other stuff I wanted
to get to, but I just simply felt that those
two issues were really critical to what's going on. So

(01:50:20):
the other stuff we'll get to tomorrow and we'll deal with. But, folks,
this is why black owned media matters, why black own
media spaces matter, because you're not getting these conversations in
mainstream white media, and you're not gonna get these conversations
on shows hosted by black people in mainstream white media

(01:50:43):
because those black people don't control their shows. They make suggestions,
they don't make decisions. Somebody asked me and they said,
I would love to come on. I would love to
come on your show discuss this. Who should I talk to?
I said, I'm sorry, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
Confused, what do you mean who should I talk to? Well?
Who should I run it by.

Speaker 1 (01:51:06):
I said, I'm still confused when you say who should
I run it by? I said, which part of I
own it? Don't you understand? And they looked at me
with a befuddled look. They were trying to understand what
I was saying. I said, Oh, I'm sorry. You've actually
never met somebody black who doesn't have to go ask

(01:51:30):
somebody else for permission.

Speaker 3 (01:51:34):
See that's why I get a kick out.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
Of these negroes who love posting on social media on
Instagram by saying, see, yeah, we know the white folk
really get his check from white people. In fact, y'all,
this was one of the most hilarious things I experienced yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:51:54):
I literally had this full.

Speaker 1 (01:51:57):
On somebody's Instagram page. He actually said, Roland Martini, he
never got a check from a black man. I started
laughing because my first check, technically he's correct, it came
from a black woman was my grandmother catering business.

Speaker 3 (01:52:15):
She owned it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
I worked in the business twenty three years. Then I
thought about the first paid media job I had. Technically
he was correct because that was a black woman too.
Saw on Siria Messiah Giles at the Houston Defender. Then
I started laughing when the person said that, because hmm.
I recall when I went to do some writing for

(01:52:38):
the Dallas Weekly and that was James and Moley Belt
who owned it black. And then I became managing editor,
a writer, then managing editor of the Dallas Weekly.

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:52:49):
Jim Washington owned that he was black. Then I became
the managing editor of the Houston Defender and that was
Sonny Messiah Giles.

Speaker 3 (01:52:58):
Again.

Speaker 1 (01:52:59):
Then I remember when I became editor of Blackamericaweb dot com. Oh,
that was owned by Tom Joyner Black. And then all
of a sudden, Tom Joyner owned Reached Media, so not
only did he own the parent company, he owned the website.
Then I remember I became actually before Black America Web,
I became news editor of Savoyd Magazine when it was
owned by Vanguarden Media and Keith clean Scales was the

(01:53:22):
founder CEO, and oh he was black. And then later
I remember in two thousand, I was working on an
election special for major broadcasting cable network. Oh, that was
the black owned cable network. That was Willie Gary and
Teslafielder and Vanda Holyfield and Marlon Jackson, Alvin Brown and others.
And then I remember after that I was doing some work.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
Oh, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:53:47):
I actually got the show on TV one and that's
owned by Alfred Liggins Kathy Hughes, black owned company. Then
Washington Watch came along, the News One Now came along again.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
While that was happening, I then began to do some
writing and editing edit for Essence Magazine when it was
black owned.

Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
Then.

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
Oh I remember I was also doing some writing and
editing for Ebony Magazine when Linda Johnson Rice actually owned
it then, oh my goodness. And then after that then
of course additional work at TV one.

Speaker 3 (01:54:21):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
And then when I was in Chicago, that's right, I
was the managing editor and general manager of the Chicago
Defended when it was owned by I grew up black billionaires.

Speaker 3 (01:54:29):
Out of Detroit.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
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wvo N Radio and oh, I'm sorry, that was owned
by Purvis Span and Melody Span Cooper, her daughter, and
they were all black. And then later when I left
that's right, when I left TV one and that ended,
I actually started rolland Martin Unfiltered, which I owned.

Speaker 3 (01:54:50):
So it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
I think this is probably my thirteenth black experience, and
twelve of those were black owned. One was black targeted.
So I got checks from all those black people. And
for the person who then said, uh, I've never been
paid by a black man, considering I own this, that

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