Katrina 20 Years Later, Trump Nobel Prize Push, Black Ohioans Face Deep Inequities

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Martel cons Friday, August twenty nine, twenty twenty five, Coming
up on Roland Market Unfiltered streaming live of the Black
Start Network. Twenty years after the Hurricane Katrina slammed in
New Orleans and the Gulf Coast Regional examine the lessons

(00:27):
learned the resilience of black folks in the Crescent City
and the road is still ahead and we'll talk with
Communian leaders and educators to share with us the chain
instead of a help keep the city moving and still
trying to recover. The delusions from sixteen hundred Pennylvania Avenue
hit a new high as some around the twice in
Peach criminally convicted Fellow and the chiefd Donald the con

(00:48):
Trump are pushing for him to receive the Nobel Peace Prize. Yeah,
talk about stupid put An Indian anchor. Oooh, she broke down.
Why he should never ever be concealed for the Covenant Award.
New data reveals deep inequity is still impacting Black Ohians
in health education opportunity. The president of the Ohio Legislated

(01:10):
Black Caucus Foundation would joint us to discuss folks. There's
a lot we're gonna break down, including Greg Abbott signing
those racist and Jerry Mandarin maps. Yeah, I got a
couple of things to say about that. It's time to
bring the funk. I'm rolling mark on filtered, on the
black sod net.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Let's go Pacett.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
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the school, the fact, the fine. Now Wenna believes he's
right on top.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
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Speaker 3 (01:38):
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Speaker 5 (01:41):
This Boston News to politics, with entertainment, just books.

Speaker 6 (01:46):
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Speaker 5 (01:54):
It's strolling, controlling, he's punky streasties, built up question.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
No, he's rolling, folks. Twenty years ago today, the world
watch as one of the nation's worst natural disasters unfolded.

(02:27):
On August twenty nine, two thousand and five, Hurricane Katrina,
a Category three storm, slammed the Gulf Coast, especially New Orleans.
But it wasn't just the storm itself. It broke the
levees there in New Orleans, unleashing significant floodwaters. The storm
killed more than one hundred eighty people cast one hundred
and sixty one billion dollars in damage. Now we all

(02:50):
remember the devastating images that came out of New Orleans,
people stranded on rooftops, thousands of people packing into the
New Orleans super Dome, dead bodies floating down the streets
and propped up on sidewalks. The Crescent City has come
a long way in the last twenty years, but there's
still a lot more that needs to be done. New

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Orleans native and council member Oliver Thomas helped dozens of
people escape the flood waters and assisted his neighbors in
returning to the ninth ward. He joins us right now.
Consul Thomas, glad to have you on the show. I
remember it well. I remember it well because obviously we
were recovering this and of course there was a hurricane

(03:32):
that followed. People don't remember. People forget that it was
a hurricane that followed Katrina that was headed to Texas.
And remember a declaration was called for people to flee,
to flee Houston and more than a million folks. It took,
you know, ten twelve hours driving from Houston to Dallas.

(03:54):
My parents were headed to my home in North Texas,
and so you know, though those days in weeks, there
was massive tension in the entire Gulf Coast region of
the United States.

Speaker 7 (04:07):
Well First of all, thank you man for being one
of the most trusted voices I think in the world today,
especially when you talk about disparaged people or speaking truth
to power, are having the legislative understanding of how policies
hurt communities like ours. Yeah, I mean, we had a
string of unfortunate natural disasters one after another, but at

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that time, what we experienced in New Orleans was the largest,
most cruel natural disaster in the history of this country.
And it proved not only that a small city like
I was wasn't prepared to deal with it on our own,
but our state and our nation wasn't prepared either. And
I would hope that what we've learned since then is

(04:53):
that there needs to be a certain level of collaboration,
in coordination so that no other city and no other
American community goes through that level of devastation, that level
of neglect and that level of suffering to recover.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Ever, again, I mean, I mean you talk about that,
and I remember, I mean you had dysfunction between Mayor
Ray Nagan and the Governor Blanco, and of course what
has happened on the federal level, and I mean it
was just I mean, you did not have any level
of synergy whatsoever.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
Well, if you remember during the President Bush's flyover he
said yes, I see you. Well, well we didn't need
him to fly over and say I see you. We
need to have resources on the ground. We need to
have a coordinated effort for our federal partners, who at
that time were the only ones who had the resources

(05:48):
to be able to deal with that level of disaster.
And as we celebrate the twenty ninth, I think what
we need to remember, and thank you for saying it earlier,
because a lot of the media forgets it. We survived
much of what happened on the twenty nine, but when
the core levees broke and when eighty percent of our

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city became flooded, we suffered the thirtieth, the thirty, first,
the first, the second, the third, the fourth, and the
fifth and then Roland. You'll remember I think you may
have reported on it some time ago, when the federal
government said, yes, there was disparity in funding, that the
poorest communities like the ones we represent, didn't get their

(06:30):
fair share of funding. But there wasn't but there wasn't
any remedy. So oh yeah, we messed up. But we're
not going to fix it. And twenty years later, we've
worked hard to recover absent those funds that distress communities
like New Orlla's easterlor w ninth Ward, Pussagentilly deserved.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
There are a lot of people who are watching us
right now who were New Orleans residents, but they're now
in Atlanta, they're now in Houston, they're now in Charlotte. Uh.
I mean, people disperse, And that's the other thing. I
don't think people also understand. This wasn't just about physically
rebuilding New Orleans. This wasn't about, oh, how do you

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how do you bring back the culture of New Orleans.
You literally lost business owners, you lost church leaders. Uh,
teachers you lost them. Yeah, I mean you lost you
lost folk who were homeowners, who had jobs. It goes
way beyond just how do you rebuild physically? You also

(07:36):
had to rebuild people.

Speaker 7 (07:38):
Uh and Roland get Tomail Right on the end the lake,
carls Guru, who was a member of our Black Social
Work Society here UH talked about why didn't we have
a trauma center here because the level of trauma that
people experienced who were stuck here. Ones who came back
to despair and devastation, and so think about the also

(07:59):
the trauma of people people who uprooted over for style
and were glad to leave, who couldn't come back. So
our challenge here today is you Isabella Wilson's book The
Warmth Above the Signs, we've all read about southern and
northern migration, and we know that most people in the
twilight of their lives would like to be able to
come back home.

Speaker 8 (08:19):
So youth the neil right on the head.

Speaker 7 (08:21):
There's still a level of trauma and despair there that
the federal government and our state partners still haven't understood
or realized, because most people at some point, even if
they found they think they found a better place, they
would love to go back and reclaim their property and
go back home, especially in their twilight years.

Speaker 8 (08:39):
Great point.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
I remember Susan Taylor had people don't realize that there
was a massive event that was held there. Sheildnized which
actually led to the start of National Cares mentoring project.
And I remember I forgot where we were. We were
someplace and I was having a conversation with a woman

(09:04):
there also with a man there, and both of them
talked about their loved ones who were so traumatized. The
PTSD was so significant that they literally walked into the
Gulf of Mexico and took their life. That and a

(09:25):
lot of people don't I mean. And it was so
many stories that I was hearing directly from impacted people, children, adults,
senior citizens. And your point about what's home. And again,
when you see when you saw the devastation. We're showing
the videos right now, but when you saw it, just

(09:47):
homes destroyed, everything lost, a lot of people who didn't
have a lot to begin with. And then folks say, oh,
you can rebuild that. It's very easy to say that.
And the other thing is because of economics, the number
of people who could not afford to leave the city.

Speaker 7 (10:10):
You mentioned something that I think too often. I started
a show on WOK Black Radio, call Mentally, speaking with
Victor Simms, doctor Shervington Tambulus, some of our notable psychologists
and psychiatrists Brian Turner years ago, just to deal with
the mental health of this town. And while we were

(10:30):
celebrating the commemoration by the Levan and lawd ninth Ward
where I grew up, this morning I got a call
from a young man who was distraught. He was talking
about giving up and how things just didn't seem to
feel well with this twentieth anniversary because he was missing
his dad. His father had came back to help over recovery,

(10:53):
had experienced some of the stuff in the water, but
was in the water same thing. I had sores on
my body for a couple of months going into that
risk in people. And he missed his dad and he
couldn't understand some of the celebrations. So I'm on the
phone telling him there's strength in the fact that you
called me. And when he talked about, man, I missed
my father. My father came back. He was in and

(11:15):
out of those homes, in and out of that water,
working here. He had a cough, he had trouble with respiratory,
and he had not come to terms with the level
of trauma that still exists today. Roland, thank you so
much for understanding that, because it's real.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
It absolutely is real. So there's a lot more to
do and there's a lot more to focus on. And
I hope people really understand when we reflect on this
particular day and that people that they're still that's still recovery.
I mean, I remember listen, Hurricane Andrew hit the Gulf

(11:57):
Codes in Florida. I mean it hit land when I
went came back in nineteen ninety two, and there's some
places that still have not recovered from that hurricane.

Speaker 7 (12:08):
That's why some of the discourse that's happening below the
Mason Dixie Line with conservative state houses and in Texas,
and some of the conversation that's happening out of DC
man American citizens in communities like ours that are still
dealing with tragedy.

Speaker 8 (12:27):
We don't need predators. We need partners.

Speaker 7 (12:29):
We need partners in DC, we need partners in southern
state capitals. The people in Texas need partners. We don't
need people because of their power right highlighting our differences
the city versus the suburb, versus the rural areas. We
need them to understand what you understand that many of
the trauma, especially that we go through, whether it's lack

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of proper education facilities, whether it's the economic disparity that
with one hundred and sixty to seventy billion dollars, the
economic disparity and gap has grown. We don't need our
federal state officials being predudiced. We need them to partner
with us, with their humanity, not with their ideology, not
with their political party, but with their hearts.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Well, and that particular point you made there, I just
want to remind people, although this is not about Hurricane
Katrina twenty twenty one, the racist governor of Texas, Greg Abbott,
refused to give one billion dollars to Harris County when
they were recovering from Hurricane Harvey because he was pissed

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off that the late Sylvester Turner, black man, was the
mayor of Houston, and Lena Hidalgo, Hispanic woman, was the
county judge, and so he was pissed at Harris County
is a blue county and screwed them out of a
billion dollars. And that was a federal lawsuit and they
had and Donald Trump got of a lawsuit once he

(14:01):
got into the White House. So the point that you
just made there, there are examples where political ideology has
penalized black people because of how we vote. And they said, oh,
since y'all vote blue, then we're not gonna send money
your way. That has consistently happened and it has to
stop you.

Speaker 7 (14:21):
They cannot continue to practice democracy by subtraction these people
who think they can hold on and divide up America,
divide us if they think political power right and economic
power just for a few is the path to the
best place. And they don't understand seventeenth century France. They

(14:43):
don't understand civilizations that have collapsed. And I think Roland
was Nikit Krushchev and one of them who said America
worries about an outside enemy, but we're gonna watch you
destroy yourself from within. Those types of actions lead to
inevitably that when you have when people are pushed outside
of outside of citizenship, outside of taxation, without representation, you're

(15:09):
going to have classes of people who come together against
the kind of common enemy. I wish they would sit
down and read history books. Man our leaders, whether it's
abbott a Trump, a governors and conservative conservative of Southern States,
if you're not bringing us together, you're not thinking out
about the best interests of this country. Are the best
interests of generation? Your generations to follow you.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Well, Cosmic Thomas, we appreciate you being on. They're going
to have you back on not to discuss this, but
talk about the upcoorn upcoming oral race, and so look
forward to that conversation.

Speaker 8 (15:44):
Man, Thank you man.

Speaker 7 (15:45):
It was good seeing you at galiall the last time
you were here. We really appreciate you and your voice,
but the most most importantly, we appreciate your heart and
your care for our people rule.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
And there are very few people who can match you.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Thank you man, I appreciate it. Thank folks. We're going
to go to a break. We can continue our reflection
on Hurricane Katrina. Twenty years later. Right here, Roland Martin
Nona filtered on the Blackstar Network.

Speaker 9 (16:12):
Next on the Black Table with me Greg Carr, we
welcome the Black Star Network's very own Roland Martin, who
joins us to talk about his new book, White Fear,
How the Briding of America is making white folks lose
their minds. The book explains so much about what we're
going through in this country right now and how as

(16:34):
white people head toward becoming a racial minority, it's going
to get well, let's just say even more interesting.

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We're going to see more violence, We're going to see
more vitriol, because as each day passes, it is a
nail in that coffin.

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The one and only Roland Martin on the next Black
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So what happens when a bunch of black mothers lose
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down to the entire community structure, which may be built
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Folks Papana Michael m Otep hosts African History Networksharre Detroit.
Ben Dixon pastor, political commentator and author of the book
God Is Not a Republican joining us from atlantap and
later be jowed by Matt mannings watch Attorney out of
Corpus Christie. I'll start with you been. You know, this
is when we think back to, you know, this week,

(19:05):
because hurricanes just don't just hit. I mean, there's a
build up there and you're watching it as it approaches
and approaches and approaches, and then all of a sudden
it makes landfall and the initial hit, then the LEVI
is breaking, and then the aftermath. And this thing was
so deep where you had some racist white folks who

(19:25):
were cutting black people off of freeways, preventing them from
coming into neighborhoods, and that was happening as well. Folks
were killed by these actions, and so it wasn't just
a natural disaster. It wasn't just levees breaking, and it
was also black folks being the victim of racists as well.

Speaker 15 (19:47):
Absolutely, I recall it almost as if it was yesterday,
back in two thousand and five, where you saw the
disparate treatment of black people, and it was a stark
reminder even then that we hadn't made the progress that
we thought we made in America, especially when crisis came.
When crisis came, we saw the true fascism of America

(20:08):
rapped deeply in racism and the exploitative nature of our
pain that followed afterwards. I appreciate the congress person who
just spoke about how many contractors came in and began
to exploit the region in so many ways that we've
seen in crisis zones like this, But it was really
a wake up call that we are not safe and
that if we're not prepared structurally as a community to

(20:31):
provide for ourselves in times of crisis. We've seen systematically
how the government will not only ignore it but sit
back and watch racism exacerbated.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Then you also had again we're talking about that neighborhood.
It was Algier's point, and if we go back and
this here is I'm going to show you this here,
give me one second, and this actually that there were

(21:03):
convictions and I need to remind people, yo, this this
stuff actually happened this year. Is a press release from
the Department of Justice, and it's gonna come up in
just a second. And a New Orleans man was sentenced
for a hate crime. As a result, go to MyPad.

(21:23):
You see it right here. Roland Bourgeois fifty five of
New Orleans was sentenced to ten years in prison in
prison bent, followed by five years of supervised release, on
charges that in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, he shot
at three young African American men because of their race
as the men attempted to evacuate New Orleans, announce Assistant

(21:46):
Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division, Eric Dryband. Today's
sentencing brings closure to this race motivated shooting that occurred
over thirteen years ago in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. Said,
a system turns in drive in this sentence is a
clear message to those who attempt to divide our community
with violence and fear. The Department of Justice will worked

(22:07):
tirelesly to prosecute perpetrators of hate motivated violence that happened,
and we can't forget that happening.

Speaker 16 (22:17):
Michael, Absolutely, we can't forget that happened. I remember when
it happened in two thousand and five.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
I remember.

Speaker 16 (22:29):
The anguish that a lot of African Americans felt across
the country seeing those images on TV. A lot of
us organizing donating, how we can I remember donating.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
As well.

Speaker 16 (22:46):
And I remember African American organizations realizing, Okay, we can't
wait on the federal government.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
Okay.

Speaker 16 (22:54):
George W. Bush was president then. I remember when George W.
Bush flew over New Orleans. Also remember his mother Roland.
You probably remember this saying, well, why didn't the people
leave or why can't they just leave?

Speaker 6 (23:08):
Things of this nature.

Speaker 16 (23:09):
So we also remember an insensitivity that a lot of
white people in this country had to the conditions of
African Americans leading up to the hurricane hitting and the
levees breaking and people not being able to afford to leave. Okay,
And also I remember a lot of people saying, Okay,

(23:29):
we need to go back to a lot of the
cooperative organizations.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
The co ops that we had that helped the community.

Speaker 16 (23:37):
Things like that, like the Free African Society in seventeen
eighty seven, that became founded in Philadelphia, that became instrumental
in helping African Americans fight against yellow fever.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
Things like this.

Speaker 16 (23:49):
A lot of African Americans started realizing, Okay, we need
to go back to organizations like that.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
We can't rely on the federal government.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Somebody is wondering what happened. First of all, this is
who that racist is right here. You see him right here,
And he never actually went to prison. He died five
days after his sentencing. Now, some of y'all may say,
wait a minute, I'm sorry, this is the twentieth verse
of Katrina. I'm confused. Why was convicted in twenty nineteen? Well, actually,

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right here, federal prosecutors had cited bouche Will's physical and
mental health as one reason his court proceedings dragged on
for nearly nine years after he was initially indicted. He
was indicted in twenty ten. He was repeatedly found incompetent
to stand trial, but he was eventually declared competent in
twenty eighteen. So just letting people know exactly what happened there.

(24:46):
There's so much to talk about there. We talked about
what happened in New Orleans. Also one of the things
that the massive, the massive change to the education system
there as well. Patrick Dubard, the former superintendent of New
Orleans Public Schools and a hurricane survivor, joined us right now,
as well as Rashida fernand a fifth generation resident of

(25:06):
the Lord ninth Ward and the founder of Centa Copa CDC.
So we're waiting to get her. So let me let
me go to go to Patrick right now. Patrick, I
remember that because there were first of glad to have
you in the show.

Speaker 17 (25:21):
Hey, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Ro there were there were massive changes. There were a
lot of people who wanted called New Orleans school system
a failing school system. Uh. And then you had what
was described you had this massive charter experiment, if you will.
Uh that took place uh there in New Orleans. I
remember we went down there. We did a broadcast as well,

(25:43):
part of our school choice is the Black Choice.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
And just just give us a sense of letting people
know exactly how everything got up ended and how frankly
New Orleans turned into a you know, a guinea pig
for a lot of education interest.

Speaker 11 (26:04):
Yeah, first of all, thanks again for to start doing
this remembrance today as we go back, I know there
are a lot of people that are still suffering, a
lot of people still have some anxiety, particularly this time
of year, being still in hurricane season. But we appreciate
the attention that's been brought to our city. I think
a couple of things. One, in the years preceding the storm, unfortunately,

(26:26):
the New Orleans School District was struggling in a number
of ways. One, the absolute academic performance of students was
on average, the.

Speaker 17 (26:35):
Lowest in the state of Louisiana at the time.

Speaker 11 (26:38):
And then secondly, the central office was under investigation by
the FBI for some mispractices, financial situations that were extremely
difficult and very challenging, and a lot of fraud was
going on throughout the system. It was pretty rampant, and
so literally a few months before Katrina struck, the district

(27:00):
was holding off from financial bankruptcy and the state Department
of Education was trying to make a decision on whether
or not they were going to intervene within the city
and tried to take over at least some of the
chronically failing school schools that have been failing based off
the state performance system for a number of years, and
when the storm hit, the system was literally and figuratively

(27:22):
wiped out, and it took a number of months before
they could even start gauging how much impact this was
going to have. And while that was going on, we
had so many people that couldn't get back into the
city and we had a large black middle class that
was the main force, the main teacher force that were displaced,

(27:42):
and the district had no resources. They were again right
before the storm, they were literally about to go bankrupt,
and so with the school district was forced to do
was layoff teachers and masks because they had no way
of making payroll.

Speaker 17 (27:56):
Obviously, there was no way to keep a system going.

Speaker 11 (28:00):
And in the months after the storm, the leaders that
were in Baton Rouge at the time decided that the
most efficient and quickest way that they could get schools
back up and run and so people could get back
into the city to try to have something to give,
to have kids can go to school and try to
have assemblance of school while folks were trying to figure
out how to put their lives back together, was to

(28:20):
use what we call the chartering mechanism, and we had
charter schools in New Orleans prior to the storm, and
what folks decided to do was we had existing school
leaders that were running their individual schools as principals, and
a lot of those principals after the storm won Alexander
Medley who was running Warren Easton High School and Sharon
Clark who was running Sofi be Right High School. Individuals

(28:43):
like that, decided that they were going to apply for
a charter for the schools that they were principals of,
and then they were able to get some of the
schools jump started. And so for the twenty percent of
the city that wasn't underwater, we were able to get
school started that way, and that's what really started over
the next decade plus the system that was going to
be totally unique where it was one that was majority

(29:06):
charter at the time and today it's I believe about
ninety eight percent charter.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
In your estimation, Was that a mistake or did you
simply at that time have no choice?

Speaker 11 (29:20):
I think at that time we just had no choice.
I mean, when you think about it, you had to
have a space for parents to put have their kids
go like literally, I mean for folks that weren't aware
of what was going on. Just imagine you have water
that was six feet eight feet high in some instances,
and majority of neighborhoods houses are totally.

Speaker 17 (29:42):
Just inundated with water.

Speaker 11 (29:44):
And then when the water receded, just imagine mud mode
because they had been sitting for months and you really
had to figure out how.

Speaker 17 (29:53):
To start again.

Speaker 11 (29:53):
And so there were things like FEMA trailers that came
where people were housed and able to stay there if
you wanted to try to come back and work on
things and be a part of the recovery of the city.
We needed schools to open, and the most efficient way,
and really the only way, because the district again was bankrupt,
was for us to go the charter route. And what

(30:14):
happened was charters, I actually think was something that really
empowered educators more than they had ever been And when
I talk about it, I try to break New Orleans
down into they can about it in three sectors, where
you have the regulators, the innovators, and the collaborators. The
regulators is government. Unfortunately, right after the storm, the state
had to intervene on the schools because for the schools,

(30:35):
sixty eight percent of the schools at the time of
Katrina were defined as failing by the state Department of Education,
And what we had to do was create a governance
infrastructure that was going to allow people to charter the schools,
but at the same time make sure that they were
going to be held responsible under their contracts, that they
were going to academically and socially and emotionally move students

(30:57):
ahead as they should be in any traditional public school district.
And so the regulation part was first under the Recovery
School District, and then in twenty and sixteen, the last
year that I was over the Recovery District, I was
the superintendent from twenty twelve through twenty and sixteen, we
worked on a unification plan where the Orleans Parish School
Board had come back and they decided that they were

(31:17):
going to be the authorizer and regulator of schools, and
they had every option and opportunity if they wanted to
direct run schools, but they decided that they were going
to continue to model that was started after Katrina. So
that's the first part of the system, the regulators. The
second part is what we call the innovators. Those are
the individuals who opened up schools. As I mentioned a
couple of school leaders that were former principles. They've opened

(31:37):
up charter schools. We've had charter management organizations that came in,
and we also had some local organizations that have started
and grown and run schools in New Orleans and they
continue to run schools. They get to establish the curriculum,
they get to select the time of day that they're
going to start. They picked transportation, food services, after school care, all.

Speaker 17 (31:55):
Of the things that the traditional district does.

Speaker 11 (31:57):
It became more local and we hit out a people
want choice and people want more local control. You really
can't get much more local than the school system that
we have today in New Orleans.

Speaker 17 (32:07):
And then the third part is the collaborators.

Speaker 11 (32:12):
And the collaborators are nonprofit organizations and different organizations philanthropic
organizations in the city that work together to try to.

Speaker 17 (32:19):
Help support the schools.

Speaker 11 (32:20):
So they may provide resources, financial resources, they might create
programming for kids, musical programs, arts programs.

Speaker 17 (32:28):
All of those entities work together.

Speaker 11 (32:30):
So when we think about the regulators, the innovators, and
the collaborators, all three segments of the Orleans ecosystem of
schools have really formed itself after Katrina, and we feel
like things are in a much better place than were
before the storm. And one other thing that I mentioned
is we had one point eight billion dollars of facilities
reconstruction after the storm and while it was over the

(32:51):
recovery school district in twenty twelve. One of the first
things we did in my administration was to ensure that
we had a disadvantaged business enterprise program that was tied to.

Speaker 17 (33:00):
The building of the schools. We recognized that there was.

Speaker 11 (33:03):
Going to be a lot of money that's being generated
to build first class facilities. Think about this, New Orleans
had never had a school facility master plan prior to
the storm.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Wow.

Speaker 11 (33:14):
Yes, and so there was no real local tax base
in Louisiana. Our funding for schools in nineteen in the
early nineteen eighties, the powers that be at that time
decided that when they give money per child in Louisiana,
which is about ten thousand dollars a kid, facilities money
is included in that. And so in a lot of
poor districts, rural districts, and then even in New Orleans

(33:36):
where the tax base wasn't that strong, you never really
saw new schools. And so after the storm, once we
got the FEMA settlement done, and I want to recognize
that it was the first time in FEMA history that
we were able to get a lump sum settlement because
right after the storm, FEMA was trying to get us
to itemize all of the things that needed to be replaced,

(33:56):
and that was impossible, literally, And after about a year,
year and a half two years of haggling with the
federal government, we finally got them to settle on a
lump sum settlement. And once we were building the schools,
we decided to implement the Disadvantaged Business Enterprise and through
change orders and through the increased costs of construction, the
total amount of revenue that was generated and work that

(34:19):
was generated from the school reconstruction projects was about five
billion dollars, of which I'm proud to say one billion
went to disadvantaged business, minority and women owned businesses. And
I'll never forget when we were about to implement that,
I had people telling me Patrick, you can't do this,
that the state entities can't have a DBE, And I
had our team look into it, legal looked into it,

(34:41):
and the law was actually silent. So it's one of
the things that I was glad that we took a
risk on and made it certain that we were able
to do that. And so today when you go and
do all in schools, you see a few things. One
you see buildings that tell our children and families that
we really loved them, that we care about them. I mean,
we have stated the art facilities. I remember doctor Hollwood Fuller,
who I know Roland that you know. Doctor fully came

(35:02):
to New Orleans a few years ago and he went
into carb High School and he looked at me, he said, Patrick,
He said, if I didn't know better, I would think
this is a community college. He said, this is absolutely
has to be one of the finest high schools I've
ever seen in this country. And I met a lot.
And when you think about it, that's not an anomaly
in New Orleans. That's the standard now for schools. And
outside of the facilities and infrastructure. Right before the STARM,

(35:26):
only one out of two students were graduating on time.
Today we have an on time graduation rate of almost
eighty percent. When we think about equity, we had never
had a differentiated funding formula in New Orleans before, and
what we did was in my administration, one of the
things we did was to create an equitable funding formula
where we now wait dollars that we're giving to students

(35:47):
based off of their student characteristics. So if you're an
English language learner, if you're an overaged student, if you're
a student that's high needs, we weight the dollars and
give more to those individual serving students with the greatest
child And so, I know there's been a lot said
about New Orleans and there's a lot of feelings about
how the school system came about. And I'll be the
first to admit that the state did a lot of

(36:08):
things to New Orleans instead of with New Orleans in
the early years. But as the years went on and
by almost by twenty twelve, the powers that be in
Baton Rouge learned how to work with the community. And
one of the things I'm extremely proud of is me
being from New Orleans, but at the same time, working
with the State Department of Education, I felt like myself
and my team were able to bridge things that weren't

(36:29):
bridged right after the storm. And so, you know, we've
made a lot of progress, but we know that there's
still a lot of work to do, but extremely proud
of what we are right now.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
This here is sort of the discussion that we had
when I went to New Orleans specifically to talk about
what was happening there education wise, and this also included
a young man who we talked to. So watch this.

Speaker 13 (36:52):
I went to Psyde Academy. I was a student.

Speaker 14 (36:54):
I was literate in twol fourteen, so and what I
had to do is I had to catch up. When
the school like Psye Academy took a student like me,
it took a chance with me. What's I Academy did
was that improved me? And I think that is a
good school.

Speaker 18 (37:05):
Welcome to the White House, everybody, and let me begin
by thanking Troy and sharing his remarkable story. You know,
I could not be more inspired by what he's accomplished
and can't wait to see what he's going to accomplish
in the future.

Speaker 14 (37:23):
My name is Troy Simon and I am from New Orleans, Louisiana.
I couldn't read until I was fourteen. I was held
back twice and developed aggressive strategy skills to hire my literacy.
My repot card routinely confirmed my failure. But at fourteen

(37:44):
I decided to change my life. I know that it
took me to be committed to education but I also
know that it took others to help me. I couldn't
do it alone. Today's event, it's not about me, but
it's about every kid in the United States of America
ensuring that they will succeed and get a chance to

(38:05):
reach the intellectual potential.

Speaker 13 (38:08):
Before a Hurricane Katriina.

Speaker 14 (38:09):
School was really hard for me, growing up in the
Lord ninth Guard having trouble with illiteracy. I went to
first grade, second grade, third grade without knowing how to read,
and that was really really hard for me. And even
outside of school, I had a tough time. So I
would hang out late at night, smoke, drink, get into
a lot of violence. Sometimes I would underscreet for my friends,

(38:31):
tap dance and snatching persons in the French quarter my
tap dance because I figured that was the way to
sort of get away from the world. I was living
in poverty on borders of starvation for Hurricane katrainahead I
was in the fifth grade.

Speaker 13 (38:45):
School just started. We did have no food, no water.

Speaker 14 (38:48):
I know that people were looting, so we were looting too,
not because we were violent and dangerous people, but because
we needed something. We needed food, we needed something to
sustain us. But the media tried to portray us as
bad people, criminals who are just doing corrupt things, and
we're trying to survive. That's how we were trying to do.
So the switch came when I decided to change my life.
At age fourteen, I got into religion. Then religion became

(39:13):
the group. Then that's when God told me what I
need to do. Get into education. So I started starting
in the library for grueling hours, started paying attention to
my fifth grade teacher who would tell me, Hreard, you
can make it, you can make it. She would always
tell me this. Got enrolled in and have a school
program called Urban League College Track, which is college Track now,
and they helped me flourish academically. That's when I left

(39:33):
the school I used to go to, went to Psyde Academy.
That's when I really begin to understand that charter schools
they do good to the community, the students. They have
this love for education. I mean maybe sometimes they are
probably a little bit too tough, but I think that
they're tough because they care and they love the students
that they teach.

Speaker 13 (39:52):
Going to Psyde Academy, I was able to win that
scholarship and also I was able to see help am
my writing.

Speaker 14 (39:58):
That's when I was as to speak at the White
House and introduced First Lady Michelle Obama. So it is
my pleasure to introduce someone who has shown great support
and confidence in our nations young people, someone who is
working to help other students have your future as right
as mine.

Speaker 13 (40:13):
Ladies and gentlemen, please join me.

Speaker 14 (40:15):
And welcome me our first Lady, Michelle Obama.

Speaker 19 (40:19):
Thank you, and I'd also like us to give a
really big hand to Troy.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
We did a number of those pieces in folks, you
can check those out on our YouTube channel, and in fact,
I'm gonna try to see if we can grab the
one piece that we did that we're restream at the
end of the show. Patrick. That was one of the
reasons why we went down there. Listen. I made it
perfectly clear to people that I supported charter schools, but
I many clearly I support all forms of education, so

(41:04):
public schools, traditional, magnet, homeschool, online school, charter, private, parochial,
you name it, I'm down with it. And this is
one of those things that there are a lot of
people who were angry, who were upset. They felt that
the experimentation was going on, but we also had we're
dealing with the reality that you just heard this. This

(41:25):
young man said he was illiterate, he was fourteen years old,
and there were too many young brothers like him. Luckily
he learned how to read. But when you go to prisons,
whether you talking about and Louisiana is one of the
most is the highest conservation any state. You go to
any prison in this country, the literacy rate those in prison,
it's about ninety percent. So education does indeed matter, Patrick,

(41:49):
and that's why it was so important. It does.

Speaker 11 (41:52):
It's not it's extremely important. And you know, I remember,
you know, hearing about the young man and one of
a couple of things as I share on that, like,
first of all, his story. Unfortunately, really starting about maybe
in the early nineteen eighties till about two thousand and five,
was more the norm for children coming through the public

(42:12):
school system than not.

Speaker 17 (42:14):
And I taught in New Orleans.

Speaker 11 (42:16):
My first teaching job was in New Orleans, and I
started noticing that pattern around the state. And that was
one of the reasons why I became really passionate about
like state accountability, ROLL and everything.

Speaker 17 (42:27):
You said.

Speaker 11 (42:28):
I'm for all forms of choice as well but I
believe in choice with accountability, and what happened was like
before the storm.

Speaker 17 (42:36):
I could remember in the.

Speaker 11 (42:38):
Late nineteen nineties that teachers and edged some educators across
the state would be upset because we have like an
annual standardized test to measure where students are. And for
part of my career I was an assessment coordinator within
the state Department of Education, and real quickly, Louisiana has
like five levels that we we gauge students proficiency.

Speaker 17 (43:02):
The lowest level is called unsatisfactory.

Speaker 11 (43:04):
So think about a sixty item test and you might
just get ten items right. Then the next level is
approaching basic, Basic, Mastery in Advance. In the late nineteen nineties,
Louisiana set approaching basic as the bar for proficient for proficiency,
meaning that we had it solo that on the sixty

(43:26):
item tests, if students would get maybe twenty items correct,
we were saying in Louisiana that you've mastered content and
it's time to move on to the next grade. And
that's how it was mind boggling to me that people
really was accepting this, and I was glad when the
state department said, no, we have to raise the bar
and so we moved it up to basic and then

(43:48):
now we're at mastery what we call master in Louisiana
as a level of proficiency. So when we know that
kids are performing well on standardized tests, we know they
at least have the basics. And it just it used
to It used to frustrate me because when people would say, oh,
we're teaching to the test, but I'm like, but we
have to make certain that we know something like, there's
no other way to really measure if you have basic

(44:09):
skills and if you have basic content knowledge. So Trot's story, unfortunately,
was more the norm than the ad norm. The second
thing I'd say is the school that he went to,
Si Hi is a part of collegiate academies. And you
could see the Collegiate logo in the back of the
video that you just shared. And Collegiate was one of
those networks that was founded by a young man that

(44:30):
wasn't from New Orleans. He was white, and he was idealist,
and he had this vision of creating collegiate academies, but
he wanted to make sure that they were serving all kids,
regardless of their background. And I'll never forget when I
first met his name is Ben Markowitz. He ended up
winning an award from Oprah Winfrey. He was one of
several educators that won a million dollars to help pursue

(44:51):
his dream of.

Speaker 17 (44:52):
His network of schools.

Speaker 11 (44:54):
But then I watched him groom a young black leader
by the name of Jerrell Bryant.

Speaker 17 (44:58):
Who was a principal at the school that the young
man trid went to.

Speaker 11 (45:01):
And Jirell had been groomed over the last several years,
and today he's now the CEO of Collegiate Academies, which
also has Carver High School, which is an all black
traditional high school in New Orleans that at two thousand
and five, Carver was probably the second lowest performing school
in the city and one of the lowest performing.

Speaker 17 (45:19):
Schools in the state.

Speaker 11 (45:20):
F rated today, that same Carver High School, led by
a young black man who worked his way up the
same network that tried was just featured in your video,
is a B rated school.

Speaker 17 (45:31):
Think about that, in just.

Speaker 11 (45:33):
A short number of years, that school has gone from
one of the worst schools to one of our success stories.
And that in and of itself is not an anomaly
in New Orleans. And so we're seeing tremendous growth. We
know that it's not perfect, we know that there are
a lot of areas that we need to work on.
But it's stories like that, and there's things like that
that really give us hope that we could continue to
make even greater gains over the next coming years to

(45:54):
the next decade.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
All right, Patrilbard, I really appreciate you joining us. Man,
thanks you a lot.

Speaker 17 (46:00):
All right, thank you Roland for having me. I really
appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
All right, folks, I want to play one more on
one of those interviews. We did so because it was
really interesting. This was a brother who started one of
those schools, and I want to show you this or
watch this. I talked to New Orleans' youngest charter schools CEO,
an abandoned school that never reopened after katriating. He came

(46:25):
in twenty ten, so it's five years ago. And so
you begin to work in this system. But then while
working in this system, you all of a sudden again
to say, you know what, there's a different way education
can be done. And what was that moment?

Speaker 20 (46:41):
It was spring of my second year of teaching. Toddy
young man named Ricky Summers. He was sixteen years old
in the eighth grade, and by that time I had
effectively closed a four year achievement gap and reading and bath.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Did you close a four year achievement gap? How fast?

Speaker 6 (46:57):
I mean?

Speaker 20 (46:58):
He came to our school in grade and by eighth
grade he was.

Speaker 6 (47:01):
On grade level and reading about out. Yeah.

Speaker 20 (47:04):
Every day Ricky came to school, he said he was
going to college and was definitely on track.

Speaker 8 (47:09):
To do so.

Speaker 20 (47:10):
I got a call one day in the spring of
that year where I got to know another side of Ricky,
and I found out that Ricky sold drugs to support
his family and.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Was murdered during a drug bill gombat.

Speaker 20 (47:24):
I found out the results of his state testing at
his funeral, and according to those results, he was on
tractor see full tuition to any state.

Speaker 6 (47:31):
University in Louisiana.

Speaker 20 (47:32):
Through Tops, Ricky had some of the best teachers in
the country and one of the best school models in
the country, and yet that wasn't enough to protect him
from the very real conditions of poverty that he.

Speaker 6 (47:43):
Faced every day.

Speaker 20 (47:44):
After Ricky's death, I was inspired to build rooted school
Rooted aims to connect students like Ricky to not only college,
but entry level jobs and high growth high wage companies
out of high school.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
And so as you begin to formulate your own idea,
what makes your idea so different and unique from what
is already been done.

Speaker 20 (48:09):
So over the next five years, thousands of jobs are opening.
We're focusing on the digital sector first, but across many high.

Speaker 6 (48:18):
Growth, highwage industries.

Speaker 20 (48:20):
And my goal is to connect students like Ricky to
these burgeoning opportunities that are right in their front yard
while they're in school, so that they don't need to
they don't need to.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Deal drugs in order to make ends meet.

Speaker 6 (48:35):
And the beauty is is that.

Speaker 20 (48:36):
With these jobs, students do not need a four year
college degree in order to get them.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
You're saying, this is a future, these are the jobs
we should be trying to educate and train the people
today for the jobs available when they graduate.

Speaker 6 (48:52):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
We've got forty four.

Speaker 21 (48:53):
States in America that now allow for charter schools, and
we've got lots of people who say we're against that,
but without this current system, you couldn't do this, You
couldn't be an innovator.

Speaker 20 (49:06):
You're absolutely right, and I think it's the beauty of this.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
City and that it has.

Speaker 20 (49:10):
Created the conditions for someone like myself not even from
here to in five years, put myself on a position
where I'm launching a radically new school model not only
for the city but arguably the country that I think
will provide real economic opportunities to kids right now.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Through this opportunity, as African Americans, we now have the
opportunity to literally educate our own kids, our own way.

Speaker 6 (49:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (49:35):
And I think charter movement was created out of the
spirit of and belief of choice, and that we ought
to create schools that are nimble enough to deal with
the immediate needs of students. That it is possible for
kids like Ricky to have immediate economic opportunity while they're
in school and certainly immediately right after high school that

(49:57):
will fast track them in their families to freedom.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
All right, I appreciate it.

Speaker 20 (50:01):
Yeah, thank you for a spont shop.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
I want people to also to know this is the
power also of black on media, the ability for us
to be able to go down to do these stories
that a lot of the folk were not doing, and
so uh we did that, we were in partnership, those
those pieces ran on TV one, uh and I own content.

(50:32):
But again that being able to have that go back
to our panel here Matt Manning now joins us and
and Matt one of the biggest lessons we don't have
mac connections yet. Okay, well, I need y'all talk to me.
I see them, So you need to tell me when
that stuff stuff. So let me go to go to
Ben so Ben. The things we have to remember when

(50:53):
we talk about we have this discussions Abou Katrina and
New Orleans, we also are talking about decades of negligence
and it then rears its ugly head when natural disaster hits.
That's what we saw right there. The entrenched poverty, the education,

(51:13):
all those different things. That's what it speaks to.

Speaker 6 (51:18):
Absolutely.

Speaker 15 (51:20):
I think it is reflective of a cancer that has
been president in this country since black people have been
in this country. And I love the way you phrase
it that when the disaster comes, it exacerbates it, it
brings it to a head. But it's always been there,
and those systematic problems they haven't disappeared since. You know,

(51:42):
the people of New Orleans have done amazing things. The
Black community in New Orleans has done an amazing thing
to recover as far as they have. But if you
travel through the city now, you still see the legacy
not only of what happened during Katrina, but that same
systemic deprivation that black people exist in.

Speaker 6 (51:59):
All around this country.

Speaker 15 (52:00):
And I think this is really important when we think
about the impending climate disasters that we are creeping up on.
What we saw happen in New Orleans was really just
a precursor of what we can expect. Those same structural
hindrances that black people face. They will come to a
head at every natural disaster that we are facing right

(52:21):
now presently, and so I believe we have to firmly
learn how to not only be resilient just as black people,
but how do we prepare in advance for the structural
problems that we know are already here when these disasters
come down the line.

Speaker 16 (52:38):
Michael, Yeah, Roland, you know, this coverage here is extremely important.
It's the most in depth of seen or heard about
in any media format today. And what you're saying is
extremely important because when we look at yes, decades of
neglect in this investment, not just neglect in the African

(53:02):
American community, but this investment from the federal government, state government,
et cetera, that led to those conditions that we see
then hitting on what brother being just talked about is, Uh,
we see the cutbacks that are taking place in FEMA
right now with this current administration. So we need to

(53:25):
prepare ourselves for the next disaster. With Lucifer and the
flesh in office and investments from FEMA. Uh, the response
from the federal government is probably going to be poor.

Speaker 6 (53:39):
Uh to say, to say the least. So we're gonna
have to be prepared for for the next event.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Yeah, I mean, look, we have folks in FEMA right
now who are saying that we are not ready. Uh
and and and and this is gonna iPad Uh. Some
fem of staff warned that Trump cuts may we disaster response,
and they've talked about it. One hundred and eighty employees.

(54:06):
Knowing full well they could beat targets, they wrote a
letter to Congress saying, hey, we got issues, we got
significant issues, and that these people there's a force reduction
and we're not gonna be prepared for a natural disaster
and so all that is critically important, folks. What we're
gonna do is so when we did we went down
there looking at the New Orleans Charlial School System that

(54:29):
was for the tenth anniversary that was ten years ago,
and so we're going to restream for you that whole
town Hall is a fascinating conversation, and so we're gonna
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Speaker 16 (56:06):
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Speaker 1 (56:20):
All right, let's say Louisiana deal with that punk ass
house speaker Mike Johnson. You know Donald Trump's lackey. So
check this out. This idiot goes on the CNN standing
firm supporting Donald Trump's deploying National Guard into Washington, d
C other cities to combat crime. But then when asked

(56:42):
about his own hometown of Sreeport, things got a little interesting.
Play it.

Speaker 23 (56:52):
Sometimes local governance does not do the job, and the
oversight in DC is long overdue.

Speaker 24 (56:57):
Was gonna ask when you might be calling for the
National Guard in Shreveport which is you have. Part of
your district is Shreveport. The FBI statistics actually violent crime
for one hundred thousand residents higher in Shreveport last year
than Washington, d C.

Speaker 23 (57:13):
There's a lot of good work that's been done. There's
a lot of reasons for that. But we have a
Democrat DA there who has not been prosecuting crime as
some other more aggressive das have around the country. Soros
funded that individual to be elected. But I'll say that's
an urban area that has a lot of problems that
are happening around the country and we have to address it.

Speaker 24 (57:36):
So with the guard help, if that the Guard can
help in DC. President has said he wants to send
the guard to Chicago and other places.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Why not treport I.

Speaker 17 (57:42):
Don't know, that's not my call.

Speaker 23 (57:45):
May be necessary, Well, I don't know. Let's take one
city at a time and see. We have to address
the crime problem in any city where it is. It's
a problem like that, and in large cities like in Chicago,
as you mentioned, that would be a big help there.
I was there just two days ago and it's a
serious series problem. They don't even report murders on the
evening news in Chicago. Anymore because it's so common and

(58:05):
Democrat runs cities typically have that problem because they have
not been tough on crime. President Trump is one who
believes in that, and we do as well. And we've
got to take every measure to make sure we're keeping
American cities safe.

Speaker 17 (58:15):
It's common sense.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Let's hear so we need to
take action in cities where there's crime. But I don't
know we need to send a National Guard to my
hometown of Sreeport. But I was in Chicago for a
couple of days and things are bad there, So let's

(58:37):
do it.

Speaker 25 (58:37):
Then.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
I hope y'all see the busshit. I hope y'all saw
it right there. This is why these Republicans are hypocrites
and why they are frauds. The crime and Shreeport is high.
Oh well, you know a lot of these, a lot
of these, a lot of these. They have a lot
of these, these large urban cities, they have problems and

(59:00):
there are things that we gotta do to address it. Oh,
you mean the things that impact crime, like economics and
poverty and education. Oh, but but you want the guard
in DC and Chicago, But you don't want national guard
in Shreveport, where the crime is even higher. That's see.
And look, John Burmer is a nice guy. He was

(59:20):
a CNN when I was there, Matt. But but this
is where Burma should have said, no, no, no, we
ain't moving on. We're gonna stay right here. I need
to understand. You just said, well, we got to address
other issues. Okay, what are those issues? How you gonna
fund them? What does that mean? What does it entail? See,
I can't stand at bullshit when they move on to

(59:42):
some other questions. No, no, no, no, no, let's stay
right here.

Speaker 25 (59:48):
I think the Williams brother said, just sweep around your
own front door before you try to sweep around mine.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Right, And that's what you have here.

Speaker 25 (59:55):
I mean, look, he didn't want to admit that Shreeport
is higher than in terms of that data, in terms
of the crime statistics, is higher than I guess the
FBI average.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
And this is what you see Republicans do all the time.

Speaker 25 (01:00:07):
It's you know, it's always for someone else and not
for them. And it's interesting that we're talking specifically in
the context of crime, because I've said it on the show.
I mean locally, when I was managing the DA's office,
the same people who would be out calling for us
to prosecute more aggressively because it was a liberal DA
and he was Soros funded and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
All this stuff where the same people.

Speaker 25 (01:00:28):
When Muffy got a DWI down at the local college,
some lawyer would come in and say, oh, but she
deserves a second chance, right, nobody else does. And that's
what you're seeing here. I mean, because if it's really
about law and order, and you want the Guard to
enforce law and order in local cities, then you would
choose your own city to say, hey, we've got big problems,
why don't you come clean it up. But that would

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require you to not only be accountable, and to shine
a light on the missteps and the failures of the
place where you live. Speaker Johnson, So this is the
hypocrisy we see laden through all of the Republican red Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
And and the reality is they need to be challenged
on this over and over and over again. And I
just don't believe in that whole thing of you know,
let let uh uh uh, let's move on, let's move on.
And in fact, uh he was watched this here so

(01:01:21):
on Fox News. Uh, this kill up on Fox News
that this this was a doozy here. I want you
to wash this check this out.

Speaker 20 (01:01:29):
But he name dropped you personally yesterday essentially trying to
say that crime is worse in Louisiana than it is
in California.

Speaker 17 (01:01:36):
Take a listen, we'll get your thoughts.

Speaker 26 (01:01:39):
If he is to invest in crime suppression.

Speaker 27 (01:01:43):
Uh.

Speaker 26 (01:01:43):
I hope the President United States would look at the facts.
Just considered Speaker Johnson's UH state and district. Just look
at the murder rate that's nearly four times higher than
California's in Louisiana.

Speaker 23 (01:02:00):
How about it again, Gavin Newsom will do anything for attention.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
He can name drop me.

Speaker 6 (01:02:04):
All he wants.

Speaker 23 (01:02:05):
He needs to go and govern his state and not
be engaging in all of this. Look, we have crime
in cities all across America, and we're against that everywhere,
and we need to bring policies to bear. My hometown
of Shreeport has done a great job of reducing crime gradually,
but we've got to address it everywhere that it rears
its uglyhead. And I think every major city in the country,

(01:02:25):
the residents of those cities are open to that and
anxious to have it. And we're the policy. We're the
party that's going to bring that forward. I look forward
to that in the data really.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Okay, all right, Michael Budd. So what's good for everybody else?
Not good with Sreeport.

Speaker 6 (01:02:43):
No, it's not good for Shreetport.

Speaker 16 (01:02:45):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:02:45):
For first of all, it's a few things.

Speaker 16 (01:02:46):
When they showed that video of that crime being committed there,
that robbery, what they should have been doing is showing
video at January sixth and crazy ass white people assault
the police officers, because those are crimes also.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
That need to be he prosecuted.

Speaker 16 (01:03:00):
Okay, and Donald Trump didn't even call the National Guardian
on January sixth.

Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
So what we see here is Speaker.

Speaker 16 (01:03:07):
Johnson out for skating and playing on these tropes. When
it comes to African American ran cities, we need more police,
not more resources. Okay, not more money for mental health,
not more money for jobs and funding for after school programs,

(01:03:28):
things like this. And then he and Gavin Newsom is
absolutely correct. Gavin Newsom has been hitting some home runs
attacking Donald Trump, attacking MAGA, but Gavin.

Speaker 6 (01:03:37):
Newsom is absolutely correct. And here you have Johnson who.

Speaker 16 (01:03:41):
Ran away from taking a boat on the Epstein files
and let the house, go on recess one day early.
Here you have him running again, running away once again.
But this is the game these people play, right, They
want to crack down and send in the police when
it deals with African Americans. But when it deals with
Muffy and Buffy now they want psychologists.

Speaker 6 (01:04:01):
Now, they want to give them.

Speaker 8 (01:04:01):
A second chance.

Speaker 6 (01:04:02):
Things of this nature.

Speaker 16 (01:04:04):
Okay, So this is why people like Speaker Johnson, Mike Johnson,
Maga Mike have to be voted out of office. You
gotta have the African Americans need to exercise our retribution
reclaim power. Have retribution day on election day. Vote these
people out of office that keep doing this harm.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
I just get a kick being how they don't want
to dress their own stuff. They don't want to talk
about what's happened they own backyard. But but you want
to talk about what's happening in DC and Chicago.

Speaker 15 (01:04:34):
Absolutely, I mean the hypocrisy is the point, right. Both
of the brothers on the panel have stated that much
they want rules for THEE but not for me. They
want to be able to target cities that are also
led by black leaders, right, that are led by black
officials and democratically led leaders. That gives them the opportunity

(01:04:54):
to stretch their fascist arms with the National Guard and
then protect themselves. But I think people should also know
that this is structural, this is intentional, this is the plan.
They won't balk, they won't blink, they won't care if
they're called out on the hypocrisy. And Roland thank you
for bringing up John Berman and the lack of a
follow up. But you know, it's so bad in media

(01:05:15):
right now that I'm honestly quite surprised that CNN and
John they even pose the initial question, the initial question itself,
showing that hipocrisy is something that we really haven't gotten
a chance to see in media in a very long time.
But that said, for Republicans in MAGA, the hypocrisy is
a structural point. They will be hypocritical all the way

(01:05:36):
to the point where they have militarized black communities and
white communities.

Speaker 6 (01:05:40):
Go skate Scott free well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
And that's why what Gavin Newsim is doing is perfect.
That is, put it on the table and then what
does it do? It forces seeing in it forces Fox
News to have to answer ask the question. Folks, Donald
Trump is crowing today because the Missouri announce that they
are going to call it a special session to jerry

(01:06:03):
mander their district. Now they are trying to get rid
of Congressman Manual Cleaver's congressional district in one more. It's
a very red state. You only have two. You got
Wesley Bell, who is in Wesley Bell, who's African American
in Saint Louis. You got Manual Cleaver in Kansas City.
So don't be surprised if these Republicans try to wipe
out those two districts. Republicans in Ohio are trying to

(01:06:26):
do the exact same thing as well, and they're getting
pushed back there. And there was a redistrict commission, but
they didn't give a damn about that. They're fighting the
will of the people. My next guest knows this very
well in terms of what's happening. There lots of things
going on there. What used to be a purple state
is now decidedly red state, and so a lot of

(01:06:47):
things are happening. You got Sheared Brown announced that he
is going to be running for the Senate seat vacated
by j. D. Van So. Joining us right now is
Shayla Davis, President CEO of the Ohio Legislated Black Caucus Foundation,
Glad to have you here again. Lots happening there. What
can be done to mobilize and organize this statement? This

(01:07:09):
used to be a battleground state. This used to be
a state where Democrats competed on the presidential level. We
talked about the US Senate level. We've seen the MAGA
take over. What really happened here? How did Ohio go
so red?

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
So Ohio, thanks for having me this evening Rolland so
Ohio was made up of eighty eight counties, and where
we have an issue. Our largest counties, which are Cauyahuga
County and Franklin County, are the predominance of the Democratic counties.
Well Hamilton, Io, which is in Cincinnati, and then the
other ones kind of play a part, but they don't
factor heavily into that. And so what has happened is

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all of these other counties, these much smaller counties, have
a higher voting turnout. And so a lot of it
is because our urban districts, we are not showing up
to the to vote, and so our Republican counterparts are
taking advantage of that. So they're also manipulating the system.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
So again what we're talking about here is and we
saw this actually in Florida when Andrew Gillham ran And
if you look at the top fifteen voting voting counties,
I think the top the first twelve were read. And
so what that says is if they're not turning out

(01:08:27):
in urban areas, then what is being done to reach
those voters? Talk to those voters. And look, I'll be honest, listen,
when Tim Ryan ran against JD Evans, Tim Ryan didn't
do a damn thing to really try to get black folks.
I was texting him directly. I said, hey, I'll come in.
I asked his today music festival. And then only election day,
all of a sudden he wants to wake up and say, hey,

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we had a black people. Well, you didn't do a
damn thing to recruit the black people. And so that's
also part of the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Yeah, for sure. And so let me just say this
about Tim Ryan. So I was a state repid the
time when he was running, and he wouldn't even acknowledge
me at a public meeting. So there's that. But the
reality is is that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Well, but is he trying governor?

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Now he's tosally, But look what we have. We have
this vivet guy. I mean, and that's just a problem.
And so the issue that we're having is that we've
got to re energize our black voters. We've got to
own our power. And so the Ohio Legislative Black Hawks
Foundation is spending time in the community. That's why I'm

(01:09:32):
hearing your short show today to get people informed, to
understand that we have the power. If we can just
simply look at what we've done with target, we can
do that same thing with our voting power. If we
were able to do this with our dollar, we can
do this with our voting power in Ohio and take
some control. Also, redistricting is coming back around. Remember we

(01:09:53):
set the tone right with the congressional maps in twenty
twenty two. That's how I got ousted out of my seat.
But that's another story. So we're coming right back up
on that. They delayed the vote, but they have to
vote on that by September thirtieth of twenty twenty five.
So we've got about what thirty two days and the
legislature has to make a decision on what those maps
are going to look like. And it's going to be

(01:10:13):
interesting to see what happens when we go back. They
have the majority power. And if you look at the
Redistricting Commission, it's a seven member body. There's only two
Democrats because our entire state leadership is GOP. So you
have the governor who sits on that commission, you have
the Secretary of State, you have the Auditor of the state,

(01:10:35):
you have the Speaker of the House, you have the
President of the Senate. Then you have the Senate Minority
leader and the House Minority leader. Those are the only
two Democrats. So actually it doesn't matter what the Democrats
do in terms of their vote, they still have the majority.
That's three fourths the vote, So the Republicans can pass
whatever they want without our input. So we have got

(01:10:55):
to get out in these midterm elections and turn this
thing around. But we have to have money for black
folk to run. That's the author issue too.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
So you're saying that what you're dealing with is Republicans.
Have you say Republicans have a super majority in Ohio?

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Yep, yep, absolutely, And so.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
The same problem we saw in Texas, you see the
same thing in Ohio.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Absolutely ten thousand percent.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
But also when voting comes in listen, you had a
Supreme Court that was stopping those Republicans. But now Conservatives
dominate your Supreme Court.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Absolutely, they wiped everybody out, and what do we do
with that? Right? And let's just be honest. So Governor Dwine,
our current governor, his son Pat Dowaine, sits on the
Ohio Supreme Court. So there's just all kinds of things
that are happening, and we are focused on so many
other things. So I'll share this with you. I also
serve on the Ohio Elections Commission, so we I'm the

(01:11:53):
vice chair. We oversee campaign finance violations for all candidates,
all elected officials across the state of Ohio. Anyone can
bring the case before us. It can be an average citizen,
Secretary of State, it could be or boards of elections. Right,
and so House Bill ninety six is the budget bill
that just passed here in July. The Minority leader who

(01:12:16):
sits on the Finance Committee, Brian Stewart, was before us
for a case if you remember House Bill sick that
had everything to do with Larry Householder and all of that,
where there were multiple people that came before us. Ironically,
he's the same guy that our staff has to go
to to get appropriations to continue our organization, our department
moving forward right for the next fiscal year. So guess

(01:12:38):
what he did. He zeroed us out of the budget.
The Ohio Elections Commission goes away, there is no money
to fund us. We're gone December thirty first, So now
there's no accountability for the elections either, and no one's
talking about that. They literally just took us out of
the budget. That is retaliatory legislation. It has nothing to

(01:12:58):
do with good governance. And the fact that he didn't
recuse himself so that it could have been fair is
a problem. But the GOP is doing whatever they want.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Right because because they don't they don't they don't believe
in fair. In fact, earlier Stuart Stevens, you know, longtime Republican.
I saw this tweet from him that I thought was interesting.
This is what he said. He said, when Democrats take
the House, they must understand they are not a governing party.
They are a dissident movement. He said, act like it.

(01:13:28):
First day, cut off all funding of executive branch, vote
to nationalize star Link in space X, defund ice. That's
the first day. On the second, get more aggressive. There's
nothing in the middle of the road. But yellow lines
and dead armadillos. And but see what you just said
there is that what democrats do. Democrats believe in fairness, morality,

(01:13:51):
rat let's play nice. So what you just said right there,
cut the funding. Okay, that's what you do. I mean,
if you don't play hardball, you play hardball.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Absolutely, the power of the purse, right, that's what we
learned back in you know, when we learned about civics
and social studies. It's the power of the purse. So
the legislative body has the ability to control that. We
have to stop playing nice. They're not playing nice with
us at all, and especially for black folks. Right we're
getting played on both sides of all of this if

(01:14:20):
we're being really honest about it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
So again, so what is your plan? How listen? What
I keep saying to folks is that the peace the
place where we're at right now. We have to be
in what I call a educate, enlightened and in the
form stage. And so what is happening? What has happened
that when we talk about Ohio, we talked about black

(01:14:47):
folks voting or what are we talking about? We're talking
in Cleveland Cincinnati, Columbus, Akron, what Dayton.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
Dayton, Toledo, Toledo.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Okay, so what is being done to do what we're
talking about? Who's doing it? If somebody's watching in Ohio
right now and say, hey, all right, I want to
get involved, who do they call? Who do they email?

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
The Ohio Legislative Black Caucus Foundation Olbcffoundation dot org. We
are right now running a campaign is the state of
Black Ohio. We are going around the state doing town
halls and we're kind of spending this a little bit
with the Black Caucus as well. We just started two
weeks ago in Springfield, Ohio. That is notoriously read, but Springfield,

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Ohio is next to Dayton, right, and so what we're
trying to do. There were over three hundred people that
showed up at that town hall, three hundred black people.
So black people are invested and interested, but we've got
to make them feel reconnected. So we've got to engage
at the grassroots level. And so my goal is to
get to as many cities at as many counties as
we can through the end of the year, as many

(01:15:52):
as we can before November, just for people to realize
that we see them and that they are not alone,
because when they're sitting out in these very small red counties,
they feel very isolated. We've got a town, We've got
a town, Lima, Ohio. So when I was in the legislature,
the Speaker of the House was there. It's a very
small town. They just got their first black mayor like
three years ago. But they're not used to us showing

(01:16:15):
up for them. So even though there are there's a
small population of Democrats, they don't feel that their votes
matter even though they're voting. So we've just got to
show up in numbers and to keep people motivated because
what's happening will not change, it will not get better.
We have to vote. We have no other choice. And
so that is why we are going across the state
and we are doing the State of Black Ohio town

(01:16:38):
Hall the voter's voice. We want you to know that
we care. And I'm bringing the legislators along with me
because they have to stand there. They have to listen
and hear. People have to feel valued and respected. But
we got to do something to change this around. We
cannot continue to sit back. That's the scope of what
I can do. And then we're also working on the
State of Black Ohio report right where we're using these

(01:17:00):
town halls to collect data and trying to turn that
data into public policy. But I'll be honest with you, Roland,
and just like you said, at the end of the day,
it doesn't matter what policy I righte what legislation I
get the legislative body to introduce. Guess who moves the
legislation forward, the Senate President or the Speaker of the House,

(01:17:21):
which is all GP. So if they don't want it
to move, it's not going anywhere. We've got to get
them out of office. We've got to gain a few
more seats, which we did pick up last year. We
picked up two additional seats in the Democratic Caucus, but
we've got to do more than that. They still have
a super majority.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Well, so the first thing you gotta do is you
got to break the super majority. So here's the question
I have before I go to my panel with questions
for you. What is their margin in the House. What
is their margin in the Senate?

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
The Senate has seven Democrats. I'm thirty four and we
have Roland. You got me on that one. I think
we have twenty eight Democrats in the House. Now, and
so it's a body of ninety nine, so there's seventy
one GM.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Yeah, it's bad, it's bad, Okay, So to break the
super majority to make so you said twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
House Dems, twenty eight House Dems.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
And so to break the super majority, what's the number.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
We probably need? What we need about forty three seats.

Speaker 8 (01:18:31):
So that's a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Wow, lot, that's a lot. That's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
That's a whole lot, a whole lot.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
But we just got to get one bite at a time.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Well, well, first, first, obviously House seats and sendate seats,
I mean, how those are jerry mandard. But the theme
that jumps up the most is you can win the
governess mansion, I mean state wide is state wide? You
can win these state wide elections. That's what's critical.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Yes, very true, very true, and I wish share it
with Ran for governor. And this is not to denounce
who we have currently amy acton. If you guys recall
back during the pandemic, Ohio was on the map for
being the first to respond. She was our Public Healthy director,
where they terminated her and ousted her out of the
office because we had all these MAGA supporters who didn't

(01:19:18):
believe that, you know that you should wear a mask,
who didn't believe in getting the vaccination, all the things
that that Kennedy clown is saying in DC. So she's
now running for governor, and I'm gonna be honest with you,
I don't think she has a strong chance. We need
a white man to win in Ohio, and that's the reality.
This is Ohio.

Speaker 15 (01:19:38):
Wow, panel pen you first, Well, yeah, no, I'm still
I'm still grappling with the fact that you won't need
a white man there, and I understand that dynamic. I'm
not challenging that. I'm just really taking aback by that
reality in twenty twenty five, which makes me ask the question,
what do you feel is the most demoralizing factor that

(01:20:00):
has depressed the black voter turnout? And is anyone in
the state politically speaking, addressing those factors?

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Are they?

Speaker 15 (01:20:07):
Are they doing anything to actually encourage black voters to
come out in addition to obviously the fascism that we're
fighting right now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Yeah, I think you know, it's the same way that
I feel depleted and depressed. Everything we do, those of
us who are doing what we need to do, it
still seems as if it doesn't matter. So I understand
that perspective. However, I'm in the game, so I understand
that we can't be defeated. We've got to continue to fight,

(01:20:35):
and that's why I'm here, That's why the Black Clawcus
Foundation exists. And so what we have to do is
to continue to get to every person that we can.
These town halls are impactful. For three hundred black people
to come out in Springfield, that's a number I didn't
even know existed. So they want to be seen, they
want to be heard. We just got to go to
where they are, and we haven't done a good job

(01:20:57):
of that right because when you think about running for
state office, you can't necessarily reach all of your constituents.
As a councilwoman, I had four thousand people in my
ward here in the city that I live in. I
see couldn't get to all of those doors. But we've
got to be intentional, right, We've got to realize that
one vote, one more seat makes a difference, and we

(01:21:17):
got to keep fighting at it. And as long as
we encourage people and they see us, I think they
will get back on board. But we've got to show
up and we've got to talk about the reality of
what's happening, because when I look at what's happening in healthcare,
my daughter, who's thirty one years old, right, she has
a child. She just got cut off of Medicaid. She

(01:21:39):
had to take her employer's insurance. But that's going to
be such a deficit now for her income. And that's
the unfortunate reality that we have to deal with. So
it's impacting everyone. It doesn't matter the position that I have.
It's the fact that I am a black woman and
that my family still experiences these exact same challenges as
every other black family, of every other poor family in

(01:21:59):
the country, but also here in Ohio, everybody's quiet.

Speaker 25 (01:22:12):
Yeah, so I have, probably, you know, a weird question,
but I actually went to law school in Toledo, and
I mentioned that because every time I think of Ohio,
I feel like Ohio has a much larger black population
than the numbers represent. So I guess my question is,
in terms of positives and ways that you see the
tide turning, how do you leverage that? And I ask,

(01:22:33):
because when you're in major cities in Ohio, I feel
like you see a lot more black people than you
do in a lot of other states in big cities,
and that seems to me to be leverageable from like
a representation standpoint. So I'm interested in how the organizing
looks on the ground and what you've seen as the
positive because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Not an overwhelmingly.

Speaker 25 (01:22:50):
Large state, so it looks like you should be able
to really galvanize support there in a way you might
not in a Texas or a larger state.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
What are your thoughts in that respect?

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
And so I'll say third ten percent of Ohio's a
black population, so it is still pretty small, right. However,
as I shared, we had about twenty twenty four dems.
We had twenty four dems in twenty twenty I'm trying
to think of the time, twenty twenty three, and so
we picked up four more seats in No. Twenty twenty two.

(01:23:23):
We picked up four more seats in twenty twenty five.
They were in Franklin County. Franklin County has almost a
million in its population, and two of those districts were black.
So we have two Somalian representatives that we've never had
in the Ohio legislature. So it is increasing. While Kyahaga County,
where I'm from, which is you know, Cleveland, Cleveland falls

(01:23:43):
under that. We're shrinking in population the city of Cleveland itself,
but Franklin County is expanding, is growing, so we've got
to heavily concentrate there. But to Rowland's point, we've got
to look at these statewide seats. If we can take
over the administration, it can kind of but you know,
it can balance some of what the legislature is trying

(01:24:03):
to do. However, though, if you look at what just
happened with a House Bill ninety six and our budget passing,
the governor line item vetoed, so many things got rid
of so much they called everyone back to session two
weeks later in the House and they overroll the Governor's veto.
Now it's waiting for the Senate to do that when
they go back to session next week, but we'll see
what happens from there. So these guys are calculated, they

(01:24:26):
don't care. They're going to do exactly what they want
to do. And so we've got to continue to fight.
And so as a population increases, we've got to make
sure that those maps are aligned. How do we do
that when we've got the Supreme Court against us and
they have a majority on the Redistricting Commission. It's about
getting the word out for people to be aware and

(01:24:47):
to understand what's actually happening here.

Speaker 28 (01:24:50):
Yeah, Michael, I don't hear any Okay, all right, sayla
A question I have for you.

Speaker 6 (01:25:06):
A couple questions.

Speaker 16 (01:25:08):
In the town halls that you've had in your conversations
with African Americans in Ohio. What are some of the
issues policies that are galvanizing them, that are causing them
to say, yes, I need to vote number one and
number two? Are there any conversations taking place about Project
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 6 (01:25:29):
How forty seven percent of it?

Speaker 16 (01:25:31):
About forty seven percent has already been implemented by this administration,
and people see possibly who thought Project twenty twenty five
was a hoax before the election realized, oh this is real.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Yeah. Yeah, So I will say that when I'm talking
to folks, what I'm hearing the most is affordable housing.
That's a tremendous issue across the nation. But it's also
impacting the majority of the urban areas in Ohio right
and workforce develop People are struggling to get jobs. The

(01:26:03):
state gave all of this money to this intel project
that I guess the fans have now taken up and
they walked away. They walked away. You look at the
six hundred million dollars that our state in House Bill
ninety six just gave the HASLM, which owns the Browns, Right,
that's our money. And so people are looking at that,
they're realizing that they're out priced. People don't have a

(01:26:25):
place to live, They can't afford to live for this
working blue collar state that still exists. And so that
is what is getting people activated, right, because people want
to be able to eat. They don't want to end
up in a scarcity mode. And it's interesting you say
that because when we have our community action agency centers
across the state, and so the predominance of them are

(01:26:47):
in rural communities because we have eighty eight counties and
we only have like eight major counties, and so the
predominance are in these very poor, rural, extremely rural communities.
We even have some rural areas that don't even have
have proper piping right to get water inside of their home.
So that's how bad it is here in Ohio steel
in certain areas. But they are reaching out. They're concerned

(01:27:10):
now about what their healthcare is going to look like
they're concerned about the food being cut, snap benefits being cut,
and children not having access to the school lunches. What
are their children going to eat? So guess who they're
looking at to help them solve those issues. Who do
they come to? Always the trusted black folk, so they
are interested as well. And so I have hope that

(01:27:34):
that can be somewhat helpful in these very small rural communities.
But the numbers are so small when you look at
our smallest community has twelve thousand people in it, and
so that's not a huge number of folk voting. When
you're talking about, you know, a state with millions of folk.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
In it, Well, it sounds to me like y'all need
the moral mondays that reverend that Bishop Barber was leading
in North Carolina in that that change that really impacted
a lot of those white communities because the issues they
were raising, they realized, Oh, this in't a black thing,
this is a people thing, a poor people thing, and

(01:28:10):
it's a bunch of broke ass white folks in Ohio
who need to understand and their voting as their own
economic interest.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
Absolutely absolutely all right, Well appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
Oh last question when you're doing these town halls. Are
y'all live streaming those town halls?

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
We are not, but we will start. We will start.
I mean, look, Broland, I'm not good with technology.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
No no, no, no, listen, y'all got listen, y'all gotta love you,
gotta losh in the town halls because the reality is
if a person can't get there, they're working whatever, and
y'all can be reaching more people. So, yeah, you got
my number, send me a text so I can walk
y'all through how to do this.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
I promise I am, because we're doing the next one
the first of October when I get back from the CBC,
so I will be reaching out to you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
I thank you guys. Take care, folks, gonna go to
a quick break. We'll be right rolling my unfiltered on
the Blackstar.

Speaker 6 (01:29:01):
Network soon to the Black Star Network.

Speaker 10 (01:29:07):
I have name recognition, but I tour more than any rapper,
and it's a lot of overseas stuff, and it's like
I'm going all over the I've been to I've been
to eighty countries in my in my lifetime. And sometimes
I'll do interviews with people and they'd be like, so,
what you been doing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Like what you've been doing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
You know what I'm saying, Like I just came back
from Belgium and Brazil.

Speaker 6 (01:29:32):
And South Africa.

Speaker 11 (01:29:33):
What you've been doing.

Speaker 29 (01:29:34):
Right now that Roland Martin is ruling to give me
the blueprint, hasty rise, I need to go to Tyler
Ferry and get another blueprint because I need some green money.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
The only way I can do what I'm doing.

Speaker 6 (01:29:59):
I need to make some money.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
So you'll see me.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
Working with Roland.

Speaker 29 (01:30:01):
Matter of fact, it's the Roland Martin and sel London
shall well should it be sel Lush and Roan mart show. Well,
whatever show is gonna be gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Hi, There's nothing more delusional than these idiots working for
Donald Trump who believed that he should get the Nobel
Peace Prize. Oh they're claiming he did all these amazing, incredible,
unbelievable things, ending wars, ending famine, bringing peace together, bringing
the Fat Boys back together as a group, reconciling the

(01:30:37):
commodores as well. Oh, he has just been doing all
of this. Listen to one of his cabinet members. This
was at that that that putin like cabine meeting where
they just he praises on the deer leader, listen to
this crackhead.

Speaker 30 (01:30:54):
Yes, and we hope to settle them before the end
of this year. Your team is nothing short of than credible,
and there's only one thing I wish for that that
noble committee finally gets its act together and realizes that
you are the single finest candidate since the noble piece
this Noble Award was ever talked about to receive that

(01:31:15):
reward beyond your success is game changing out in the
world today, and I hope everybody one day wakes up
and realizes.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
That, Okay, I'm sorry, did y'all miss that? Did this
crackhead say that? Okay, maybe I heard that wrong? Maybe

(01:31:49):
uh did he say? Ever? Let me play it again
because maybe I'm maybe I was hearing something a little different,
and maybe y'all all can correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 30 (01:32:01):
Okay, go, thanks, and we hope to settle them before
the end of this year.

Speaker 8 (01:32:06):
Your team is.

Speaker 30 (01:32:07):
Nothing short of than credible, and there's only one thing
I wish for that that noble committee finally gets its
act together and realizes that you are the single finest
candidate since the noble piece this Noble Award was ever
talked about to finally gets its act together and realizes
that you are the single finest candidate since the noble piece,

(01:32:30):
this noble award was ever talked about to receive that reward.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
So this crackhead actually believes that awarding the Nobel Peace
Prize to Donald Trump is greater than doctor King. Getting
it is greater than Nelson Mandela and botha is greater

(01:33:13):
than mother to reap. Now, I've seen people high. I've
seen people who drink in the middle of the day.
I fly a lot. I see people ordering Bloody Mary's

(01:33:38):
and other drinks with alcohol at six seven o'clock in
the morning. That ignorant shit we just showed you got
to I know that man got home, his wife went,
are you that stupid? Ever? Ever, here's old line ass

(01:34:02):
Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt listen to her. Dumb ass.

Speaker 31 (01:34:06):
President has now ended conflicts between Thailand and Cambodia, Israel
and Iran, Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of the Congo,
India and Pakistan, Serbia and Kosovo, and Egypt and Ethiopia.
This means President Trump has broken on average, about one
piece deal or ceasefire per month during his six months
in office. It's well past time that President Trump was

(01:34:29):
awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
This is a new this is a new lip bomb.
I don't think I have enough to cover the ass
kissing you just heard there. First of all, who campaigns
for nobody? Don't nobody openly campaign for a Nobel Peace Prize.

(01:34:58):
That's what you know. Yola' silly ass is desperate. See,
he really mad because they gave one to Obama. Now,
first of all, DAVI was stoopid. Obama did not deserve
the Nobel Peace Prize. He didn't, he didn't earn it,
he didn't deserve it. But that's really what it's all about.
This dumbass is infatuated with Nobel Peace Prize. But I

(01:35:19):
came across this video of an anchor in India. Now,
y'all know, I love me some shade ah do I
love being petty And I don't even know her name,
but she has absolutely earned the Moniker Queen Petty of India.

Speaker 32 (01:35:46):
Holy if only Donald Trump was president in the twentieth century,
so much could have been avoided. The First World War,
the Second World War, the nuclear arms race, the Cold War.
Trump could have prevented all of it. After all, his
surname is sees Fire. We know that all politicians are
full of themselves. They can be arrogant and boastful, but

(01:36:09):
Trump is one step ahead. He is shamelessly full of himself,
and we saw an example of that yesterday. The White
House openly demanded a Nobel Peace Prize for Donald Trump.
Listened to this.

Speaker 31 (01:36:21):
The President has now ended conflicts between Thailand and Cambodia,
Israel and Iran, Rwanda, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo,
India in Pakistan, Serbia and Kosovo, and Egypt and Ethiopia.
This means President Trump has broken on average about one
piece deal or ceasefire per month during his six months
in office. It's well past time that President Trump was

(01:36:44):
awarded the Noble Peace Prize.

Speaker 32 (01:36:46):
I think she missed a few there, like Tom and Jerry,
Harry Potter and Voldemort Batman and the Joker, and Luke
Skywalker and Darth Vader. If you're going to make fake claims,
might as well go all in. It's been a whole
mark of Donald Trump. He claims credit for everything. What's worse,
he wants global recognition for it. In other words, he

(01:37:07):
wants the Nobel Peace Prize now. Just to be clear,
a lot of unworthy people have received this prize. A
lot of unworthy people have also been nominated for it,
but none of them asked for it. I mean, this
is not a reality TV contest. It's not like you
can send an SMS to Norway nominating Donald Trump. You
must let your actions speak. So let's look at Trump's actions.

(01:37:32):
We mentioned his bombing record earlier on the show. Trump
has dropped five hundred and thirty bombs in six months.
To put that in context, his predecessor Joe Biden dropped
five hundred and fifty five bombs over his whole presidency
four years. Trump has dropped five hundred and thirty in
six months. Not very peaceful, is it. Let's also look

(01:37:54):
at aid cuts. Trump has cut eighty percent of America's
foreign aid. That's almost sixty billion dollars of help. And
we are talking about life saving help like vaccination campaigns,
remote health centers, public health services, and medicine distribution. What
will be the impact of these cuts? Medical journal Lancet
has done some research. They say the aid cuts could

(01:38:16):
cause fourteen million debts by twenty thirty. I'll repeat that
for you, fourteen million debts due to Trump's aid cut,
and a third of those are children. Does this sound
like a piece laureate to you? Does this sound like
a respectable statesman? The answer is no. Someone tell Trump

(01:38:37):
that typing in all caps is not diplomacy. Plus, it's
out out of fashion. Gen Z would be horrified by
the all caps. This is the era of small case.
But coming back to his credit fever, as a species,
we should be more thankful to Trump. Thanks to his
negotiations with God, the sun rises every day. Thanks to

(01:38:57):
his mediation, ships can sail on the ocean. If not
for him, gravity would not exist. Give us a break.
Americans can vote for whoever they want to, just don't
expect the world to fall in line. I can think
of a dozen people who deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.
Trump is certainly not one of them. And I'll tell
you what disqualifies him. It's not just what he's doing now,

(01:39:21):
it's what he will do if he wins the prize.
I can guarantee that Trump will sell a Nobel experience
at Mara a Lago. You can come click pictures with
a prize and go just five hundred dollars. Chances are
he will also sell Nobel themed belt buckles and baseball cards,
again just one hundred dollars each. But jokes aside, there
are too many reasons to disqualify Trump. You've got casual sexism,

(01:39:46):
you've got sexual assault allegations, you've got casual racism, you've
got islamophobia, and you've got actual war mongering. Take your pick.
There are two kinds of leaders in this world, one
who leave the the better place, the other who leave
it worse than they found it, and Trump is clearly
in category two. We suggest he take up a new

(01:40:08):
obsession and leave us alone. In fact, I've got an idea.
There is a country in Africa with vast reserves of
rare earth elements. It's called Wakanda. If US officials are listening,
get Trump on the job, urge him to sign a
deal with them. If anyone can, it's Donald diplomacy.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
Trump. What the champ is here, The champ is here,
The champ is here?

Speaker 8 (01:40:39):
Is here?

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
Oh my god, the champs here? The champ man there?
Did she lay into his ass?

Speaker 18 (01:40:53):
A what?

Speaker 15 (01:40:55):
And she did it so calmly, so matter of fact.
She didn't have to be bombastic or even raise her voice.
She laid out the facts. I think what's wildest about
this roland is the fact that so many grown human
adults actively cater to this behavior, all of the people
who is habit and all the people who serve underneath them, Like,

(01:41:15):
do they have no sense of self respect? How could
you grovel for anybody? I'm sorry, just we're adults. There
is no groveling for another human being, right, but they
do it actively every day. And they don't just do
it because they have to. They go above and beyond
that first clip of the guy you call crack head,
like ten times.

Speaker 6 (01:41:35):
He really went above and beyond.

Speaker 15 (01:41:37):
To make sure that Donald Trump emotionally feel how committed
he was to worshiping Trump and that Trump gets this
Nobel Peace Prize. Last, but not least, you're so right
to pull up the fact that he is just again
jealous of Barack Obama. And thank you for saying that
Barack Obama didn't deserve it. He hadn't done anything to

(01:41:58):
earn it at that point. But that still doesn't make
Donald Trump feel any better about not measuring up to
the president.

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
This man really does have small body parts, Matt. I mean,
the ego is just I mean, he small hands, small brains,
the up feet by some big ass ankles.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
I will take your word for that, brother.

Speaker 25 (01:42:25):
But what I will say that is interesting is one
she eviscerated him and the piece was funny but also poignant.
But what's interesting is before she went to the slide
on USA, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
Actually what I thought about.

Speaker 25 (01:42:39):
And I thought about like the soft power losses that
we've seen. I mean, if you take away aid from people,
you are per se not a peaceful, a peacemonger, if
you will. And first I want to mention doctor Bunch,
Doctor Ralph Bunch wants to enter the chat right because
you want to talk about somebody who deserves the Nobel
Peace prizes him. But what's interesting about this is this
is emblematic of all of the almost soft authoritarian ways

(01:43:03):
that we're seeing Donald Trump act.

Speaker 8 (01:43:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
For instance, I'm.

Speaker 25 (01:43:06):
Going to become the board of the chairman at the
Kennedy Center. I'm going to be the head of this.
I'm going to be the head of that, like very
dear leader almost. And it's interesting that we're talking about
this now because right before I got on the show,
I was driving in from a court appearance up in Huntsville,
and I was listening to a podcast and they were
talking about how the Solicitor General John Sower just filed

(01:43:29):
some pleading where he basically just lionizes Trump and said,
basically he's got the unique deal making skills to make
America a beacon of light. Again, I mean, all this
flowery language that you never see the Solicitor General file
about an individual because he or she generally represents the
people of the United States, not the president. But this

(01:43:51):
is something we're seeing emblematic of this administration. And to
kind of harken to what Ben was saying, I mean,
they are bending over backwards to kiss this man. But
by the way, I liked the bliss stacks. I didn't
know where you're going with that, but that was a
very nice segue. But in any event, we're seeing that
across this administration, and that to me is one of
the most insidious hallmarks of the dictatorial rhetoric and the

(01:44:13):
dictatorial bend we're seeing from this White House, and that
we are seeing people who are in his contingent of
supporters lapping up. And it's a very strange thing to
me because it's very North Korean. Dear Leader but they
seem to be lapping it up.

Speaker 1 (01:44:29):
I missing you said, you liked what.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
Oh the bliss stacks, the lip bomb.

Speaker 25 (01:44:35):
Where you're going with that?

Speaker 16 (01:44:36):
I like that though.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
That was I know I heard. I just want to
make you say it again. I like it, brother, all right,
all right, Michael, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:44:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:44:52):
So that was a great takedown that the reporter in
India did Donald Trump. But she forgot one conflict Donald
Trump did South and that's between the out of the
box and the decepted God. She forgot about that one. Okay,
So when we look at when we look at Donald
Trump once again, yes he's he's still envious of president

(01:45:15):
former President Barack Obama. Uh, that's why he wants a
Nobel Peace Prize. Steve Whitcoff needs to realize his sounds
like Steve said, Nobel Prize is the Nobel Peace Prize.

Speaker 6 (01:45:27):
Steve Whitcoff. But yes, that was more fawning.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
And now you know his ass k read hell you
he can't spell it exact.

Speaker 6 (01:45:38):
These are the people Trump surrounds himself with.

Speaker 16 (01:45:41):
Okay, but the New York Times had a good announcements
because because I even heard, uh uh, Stephen, what's his name,
what's the boy's name? On espn uh I forgot the
the the sports cast Steve. I even heard him Steven
A Smith right right, Stephen A Smith short?

Speaker 6 (01:46:00):
What day stands for?

Speaker 16 (01:46:01):
But I even heard him try to give credit to
Trump for solving all these wars things like this. But
actually New York Times is a good analysis of them.
And when you look at a lot of them, like
the Armenia and Arja Baijan, or even we're Wanda and
the Congo that we talked about here on the show,

(01:46:21):
those are like agreements towards a uh uh firm piece agreement,
things like this, but fighting still continues, especially in Werwanda
in the Congo. So even wars that he claims to
have solved, okay in seven months, are not solved.

Speaker 1 (01:46:41):
Okay.

Speaker 16 (01:46:41):
And notice he's they don't say anything about Gaza. They
don't say anything about Israel and Gaza, okay, because that's
a disaster and it's gotten even worse since he's been
in office. But once again and and and Matt hit
on it dealing with us A I D. Because right
now Trump is talking about cutting I think it's another

(01:47:01):
four point nine billion dollars in foreign aid but because
of the cuts to usai D, three hundred thousand people
worldwide have already died because of those cuts, and we
know that tens of thousands of them are on the.

Speaker 6 (01:47:14):
Continent of Africa.

Speaker 16 (01:47:15):
So how could you claim to bring peace when you
sided with Elon Musk and cutting aid that actually kills people.

Speaker 6 (01:47:23):
So I don't even understand what you're really talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
I want to show y'all something which is kind of important,
because you know, we're sitting here and we're clearly showing
how delusional this dumbass is. But I want folks to understand.
We talk about the Nobel Peace Prize, and we talk

(01:48:00):
about how serious they take the Peace Prize and how
again the people who have received it. These are not
people who have been desperately campaigning trying to get one,
folks who have been, oh, sitting here just going crazy.

(01:48:24):
See again, when you're dealing with an idiot who who
absolutely just wants to be lavish with praise. This is
the website Nobelprize dot org. The Nobel Peace Prize has
been awarded one hundred and five times to one hundred
and forty two Nobel Prize laureates between nineteen one and

(01:48:47):
twenty twenty four, one hundred and eleven individuals and thirty
one organizations since the International Committee of the Red Cross
has been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize three times in
nineteen seventeen, nineteen forty four, nineteen six and the Office
of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees has been
awarded the Nobel Peace Prize two times in nineteen fifty

(01:49:09):
four nineteen eighty one. You are twenty eight individual organizations
which have been awarded Nobel Peace Prize. This cliff that
links to give more information. Noble of Peace Prize has
twenty twenty five has not been awarded yet. It will
be announced on Friday, October tenth at eleven o'clock in
the morning. So when you go down here, folks, look

(01:49:31):
at this dahn Jdekio forced efforts to achieve a world
free of nuclear weapons, if we demonstrating through witness testimony
that nuclear weapons must never be used again. Look at
this Narjez Muhammadi for her fight against the oppression of
women in Iran and her fight to promote human rights
and freedom for all. And then you go down here

(01:49:53):
Center for Civil Liberties, and then you begin to look
at World Food Program and you look at you look
at again, look look at this hit newclear Weapons ending
a fifty year civil war, for their struggle against the
suppression of children and young people, for the right of

(01:50:15):
all children to be educated. Organization for the Prohibition of
Chemical Weapons, Ellen Johnson, Sir Leief Lima Gubawei, and Tabacoul
Karmen for their non violence struggle for the safety of
women and for women's rights to full participation in peace
building work. I mean, you go on and on and
on and on and on, and you look at the

(01:50:36):
names on her International Atomic Energy Agency as well again
and you look at these names. You see President Jimmy
Carter for its decades of untiring efforts to find peaceful
solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights,
and to promote economic and social development. United Nations and
Kofi Anon, and you got Doctors Without Borders, and then
you International Campaign to ban Landmines and Jody Williams, and

(01:51:00):
you begin again. You see Yassa Era, Fat Shamuan Perez,
Yestok Rabbin for their efforts to create peace in the
Middle East. Nelson Mandela I said both day was early
fw De Clerk for their work to the peaceful termination
of the apartheid regime, that for laying the foundations for
a new democratic South Africa. And then you go Michael
Gorbachev for the leading role he played in the radical

(01:51:20):
changes in East West relations, the fourteenth Dalai Lama United
Nations Peacekeeping Forces, Eli Weizel for being a messenger to
mankind as message is of one piece atonement and dignity.
International Physicians for the Prevention of nuclear war. Bishop Desmond
Tutu for his role as a unifying leader figure in
a non violent campaign and resolved the problems of apartheid

(01:51:42):
in South Africa. Elect with Lenzap the solidarity leader Czecho
Saa see in Poland there for nonviolent struggle for free trade,
unions and human rights in Poland. I mean again when
you Mother Teresa for her work for bringing help to
suffering humanity on war saddat Mo Knock and began for
jointly having negotiated peace between Egypt and Israel in nineteen

(01:52:02):
seventy eight, Analysty International. And then you go down here
and you see again these day Henry Kissinger and his
punk ass But that warmonger may he rest in hell
and be an international labor organization. And again nineteen sixty
seven no Nimble Peace Prize awarded, or nineteen sixty six
nine Nations Children's Fund Doctor King for his non violent

(01:52:24):
struggle for civil rights for the Afro American population the
Red Cross. And again you go on and on and on,
and you see these names, and you see what people did.
And I'm just gonna scroll all the way down just
to be able to show folks, I'm telling you right now,
there is no way in hell that Donald Trump's name

(01:52:44):
should ever be mentioned in the same breath a whisper
as any of these people in organizations. The man has
no morals, no values, no decency, no ethics. He has

(01:53:07):
none of this, none of this. He is a shameful, pathetic,
narcissistic insurrectionist. Giving him a Nobel Peace Prize is essentially saying,
let me award the arsonist another can of gasoline to

(01:53:31):
burn more things. Donald Trump can straight go to hell
when it comes to think that he's a Nobel Peace Prize.
Even even nominating him for a Nobel Peace Prize, the
person must be shameful, so trust being, he ain't getting it.

(01:53:53):
I'm gonna do a quick break when we come back.
You know the races of the Repelican Party. They just
loved him, so the Confederates. Pete Heick said he's back,
and so is Robert E. Lee. I'll tell you by
the next.

Speaker 12 (01:54:08):
This week, on the other side of Change, three hundred
thousand black women being pushed out of the workforce.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
This is shocking yet unsurprising.

Speaker 4 (01:54:15):
But what happens when a bunch of black mothers use
their federal job.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
Their kids are not being fed, their kids are not
being taken care of.

Speaker 4 (01:54:22):
But that trick goes down to the entire community structure,
which may be built on the backs of black.

Speaker 12 (01:54:27):
Mothers and black women were broad tune in on the
Other Side of Change only on the Blackstar Network.

Speaker 25 (01:54:35):
I'm Russell lel Honoree liutender Gerald, United States Sorrow retired,
and you're watching Roland Martin.

Speaker 17 (01:54:41):
I'm felter.

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
While Republicans so silent on this story. A white North
Carolina Elections board chairman has been charged with drugging his granddaughters.
James Edwin Yokali ji Your's two juvenile granddaughters found two
pills in ice cream that they had purchased from Dairy Queen.
Investigators reviewed surveillance footage which revealed that Yukuley himself had

(01:55:12):
placed the pills in the ice cream. The pills tested
positive for m D M A and cocaine. Is it it?
First of all, y'all all going right? If you're gonna
sit here, do y'all know where MDMA is? Isn't that

(01:55:32):
the date rape drug? Oh? No, it's ecstasy. It's ecstasy.
As a result, he's been arrested in charge with contaminating
food or drink with the controlled substance, filling in the
possession of schedule on their contics, and philipy child abuse.
He was booked to the New Hanover County Attention Center
and later released one hundred thousand dollars bond. In June,

(01:55:55):
Yokle Republican was appointed chairman of the Syrie County Board
of Elections in North Carolina. Wow, that's how they do
it in cal how been.

Speaker 15 (01:56:05):
Absolutely out of control Roland. When I look at this
and you think about how much energy MAGA has put
into calling everyone a groomer except the actual groomers, calling
everyone a pedophile except the actual pedophiles. They have expressed
concern about the Epstein list until they realized Donald Trump's

(01:56:26):
name was on the list. This goes back to the
first story that we talked about, or rather the second
one with Mike Johnson. The hypocrisy is the point they
don't genuinely care about protecting people children, especially from predators,
because predators build their ranks. And yet, I mean, I
can't even really think about the story and the details,
like what was this man's plan?

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
What, what do you what are you doing? He was
going rapist granddaughter, He was going rapist granddaughters, right.

Speaker 15 (01:56:55):
Right, Your your granddaughters, your children, children, period, but your children,
your grant. So this is the level of depravity that
actually exists in this country, right And it's not your
maines to Republicans, to be sure, this is something that
infects too many circles of the United States in this planet.
But when you see a party present themselves as someone

(01:57:16):
who cares about these issues and wages an entire culture
where against the LGBTQI a community, as if being lgbtq
ia makes you this type of depraved and then you
see it in their ranks over and over and over again,
it just it simply reminds me of all the pastors
and priests, am bishops that we see reported in the
news that carry out on this kind of behavior.

Speaker 1 (01:57:37):
And saying and saying, oh how about this with the
US Air Force. Because of this idiot Trump, they're now
offering full military honors for January sixth rider Ashley Babbitt.
You remember the one she was killed trying to break
it to the US Capital. Oh yeah, y'all remember this
video right here, But that mass deserved it. Yeah, roll it.
They told them, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't

(01:58:00):
do it. Don't do it. They cops are standing on
the other side with guns telling them to turn the
audio up, y'all, tell them, don't do it. Look at
that they got the guns. Oh yeah, oh yeah, they

(01:58:29):
shot ass. She was killed, thirty five years old. And
then what dumbass Trump was doing giving her military honors? Right?
She was trying to breach the Capitol, y'all. She was
draped in a Trump campaign flag when it attempted to
climb through the shutter window and then US Capitol Police

(01:58:50):
Lieutenant Michael Bird hit them with the heat fired a
single shot. Dead. The problem of justice is Capitol police
cleared any wrongdoing, so he acts within the bounds of
his duty. Yeah, you think, But Michael, this is what
happens when you deal with an insurrectionist.

Speaker 16 (01:59:13):
Yeah, not only an insurrectionist, but the insurrectionist who was
bosom buddies with a pedophile as well. So anything to
distract from the Epstein files, Okay, And this is more
red meat to his base. As the as the price
of goods continues to go up, as the price of
back to school uh products continues to go up, in

(01:59:37):
the in the price of groceries continue to go up,
anything to distract from that, to throw red meat to
the MAGA base, because this is this is something that
they want. While at the same time, you're sending the
National Guard to Washington, DC. You're preparing to send the
National Guard to crack down on crime in Chicago. Okay,

(01:59:57):
you're going to honor this person who was trying to
breach the capital. Okay, but this is what we expect
from the trading chief who you know, committed treason.

Speaker 6 (02:00:09):
Basically, this is what we expect from somebody like this.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
Well, this is also what we expect the part Pentagon.
They plan to re estate a twenty foot tall portrait
of white domestic terrorists racist Confederate General Robert E. Lee
at the United States Military Academy West Point. The painting,
which features a depiction of a slave guiding Lee's horse,

(02:00:34):
was displayed at West Point for seventy years before being
removed under Biden, but under white nationalists pathy Trump, it
will not be hung in the Academy's library. Thank you
to Pete hex. This decision comes us by the recommendation
from a congressionly mandated commission that orders to remove. In

(02:00:54):
twenty twenty, memroals too Robert E. Lee, a known slaveholder,
have long been a source of controversy. Since twenty twenty,
numerous monuments to Lead other Confederate figures have been removed
by advocates who argue that these memorials celebrate white supremacy
and celebrate white domestic terrorists. Hmm, I guess we know

(02:01:15):
exactly what side Donald Trump, Pete heck Seth, and the
Fox News is on, Matt.

Speaker 2 (02:01:22):
Yeah, and they'll just tell you that it's just about
tradition and history.

Speaker 25 (02:01:26):
And it's so interesting that we're having this conversation because
I was talking politics with a friend of mine the
other day and he was noticing something I'd never noticed
down here, if you come to the beach down here
where I live. When I first moved here, I used
to see Confederate flags all the time. But now you
know what you see instead, Trump flags, because they're the same,
and it's interesting they're the same exactly, but it's almost
like the MAGA flags are a more palatable way for people,

(02:01:50):
or at least have been a more palatable way for
people to tell you that they're racist without the fear
of being called racists because they got the Confederate flag.
And this is one of the things that that I'm
definitely not thankful for this rhetoric being out, but I
appreciate that there's nothing nebulous about this. And when we
know this, there's an attack on blackness. There's an attack
on black people in vaulted positions. But this is crazy, right,

(02:02:14):
Like I mean, if you look at it, these are
the people who talk about America first being whatever, jingoistic,
as patriotic as you can be, and they lionize people
who literally seceded from the United States, like one of
these things is not like the other. And when you
put a painting up like this, or when you in Midland, Texas,
you rename the high school after Robert E.

Speaker 8 (02:02:35):
Lee.

Speaker 25 (02:02:36):
You are telling black people we do not care about
the history of where you were enslaved. I know you
were enslaved, and not only do we not care about it,
more than that, we are going to lionize and glorify
that time. That's what this is, right, This is glorification
of it. And in some ways it's helpful to know
that there's no ambiguity about that. But it's abhorrent and

(02:02:59):
I don't understand. I mean, think Michael mentioned it earlier
is exactly what I was thinking. I mean, these are
the same originalists or people who talk about originalism, and
treason is one of the original crimes, right, And the
idea that you can storm the Capitol as an enemy
of the sitting you know, Congress is extraordinary, right, Like,
that's about as inconsistent with the Framer's view of things.

(02:03:20):
If you want to be a person who's an originalist
and nonetheless reliantizing those Ashley Babbitt's getting, you know, full
military honors.

Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
It's bizarro world.

Speaker 25 (02:03:29):
But when you are the one controlling the goalposts, you
move it anytime it needs to be advantageous for you
and your whiteness. Or white nationalism or whatever it is
you're peddling at that time. And that's exactly what we're
seeing with this iconography of Robert E. Lee being hung
at West Point.

Speaker 1 (02:03:43):
I mean, it's crazy, speaking of moving the gold posts.
We're going to end the show with this level of stupidity.
It's always amazing to me to listen to somebody on
Fox News try to call somebody else out for Lyne
when they Lefe literally kissed the ass of the liar
in chief every single day, and one of the chief

(02:04:07):
ass kissers on Fox News is Will Caine. He actually
thought that he was being direct and being a journalist
and challenging Governor Wes Moore about his Bronze Star. Watch this.

Speaker 33 (02:04:23):
In two thousand and six, on your application for a
White House fellowship, you put on your application that you
were the recipient of a Bronze Star I believe, also
with a combat action badge.

Speaker 20 (02:04:35):
That was not true.

Speaker 33 (02:04:37):
You have apologized and said it was an honest mistake.
Here's what President Trump said. Did Wes Moore, the Governor
of Maryland, lie about getting his bronze Star? The question,
Governor is why did you let.

Speaker 18 (02:04:48):
It go on?

Speaker 33 (02:04:49):
Even if it was a mistake for years and years
and years as you were celebrated as having a Bronze Star.

Speaker 34 (02:04:57):
I'm very proud of my service to this country, and
I think, and I'm not sure if you've served well,
but I think, as anyone who has served in this country,
if you.

Speaker 17 (02:05:06):
Look at what we were able to do overseas and the.

Speaker 34 (02:05:09):
Fact that I was recognized by the United States Army
with both the Bronze Star and the Combat Action Badge,
I think I'm not only proud of the service that
I have done to this country and the fact that
I was willing to put my life in the line.
We're the uniform of this country overseas and lead soldiers,
but I also know that the soldiers that I serve
with are also proud. And also I know that most
soldiers and most veterans know the ridiculousness of this of

(02:05:33):
this line, and especially when they know that as someone
who's actually led soldiers of combat, and someone's actually led
hold on a second and led people overseas and to
the State's Army actually recognized me with these with these awards,
I think it does matter.

Speaker 33 (02:05:46):
Okay, Governor, First of all, I appreciate your service. I
appreciate your service in combat. It's not something that I
recognize and honor your service for this country. And I
mean that sincerely, and we.

Speaker 26 (02:05:56):
Can do it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:56):
And here's the right about to be hilarious. I ain't
never seen Willcaine being called Trump out on a single lie.
I never ever, ever, ever, never seen Will Caine tell
Trump my hold up, now you're lying? Why did you

(02:06:18):
lie while you're lying from me? Right now? Ever? Ever,
First of all, Fox News pays seven hundred and eighty
seven point five million dollars because they helped spread Trump's
lies about the election. In fact, we ocay is such
a punk ass, is such a punk ass. Just the

(02:06:39):
other day when Donald Trump lied, when Trump lied about
Wes Moore thanking him and praising him as the best
pressuent in his lifetime, in which we all know is
a lie. In fact, matter of fact, I was going,

(02:07:01):
this is this is amazing. Ben w O came, reads
the lie, plays the video debunking the lie, and then,
as punkass is still scared to cole Trump a liar, watch.

Speaker 33 (02:07:20):
Knocking the hell out of him. Wes Moore is posting
on social media saying that President Trump can't walk, but
maybe you should walk the streets of Baltimore. It then
didn't take him long to respond to the President. They're
in the Oval Office, he said, Lol. Keep telling yourself that,
mister President. It'd be wild though. If only we had
the footage that President Trump had referenced about the meeting
at the Army Navy Game. And thanks to the art

(02:07:42):
of the Surge on Fox Nation, we have the footage.

Speaker 17 (02:07:47):
The presidents welcome back to Maryland. Sorry, welcome back to Maryland.
It's good to see you.

Speaker 8 (02:07:51):
Ojay's conversion to thank you.

Speaker 17 (02:07:54):
Sir, great to see you, Great to have you back here. Measure,
thank you, sorry, thanks to thank you.

Speaker 20 (02:08:01):
Well we are.

Speaker 8 (02:08:02):
We were very, very.

Speaker 35 (02:08:03):
Anxious to be able to work closely with you when
you know, I know the Keep Bridge is something that we're.

Speaker 18 (02:08:09):
Well.

Speaker 6 (02:08:09):
I mean, we spoke to Speaker.

Speaker 35 (02:08:10):
Johnson yesterday and Speaker Johnson says he leads them close
to the Hundredson cost share and uh. And the thing is,
I told him, when we get that hunt here costhare done,
we are going to be able to go over to
the Keep Bridge. Let me be your watcher because I
will have it done.

Speaker 1 (02:08:22):
To the n twenty eight.

Speaker 6 (02:08:23):
Okay, all the time a long, bunches, we'll help you out.

Speaker 17 (02:08:26):
Thank you, serf.

Speaker 33 (02:08:28):
We didn't hear their greatest president ever, but we did
hear a lot of enthusiasm and so excited to meet you,
mister president, who's telling the truth.

Speaker 17 (02:08:35):
We'll let you decide.

Speaker 1 (02:08:38):
You are punk ass? Will the main lighting you look?

Speaker 20 (02:08:42):
Well?

Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
Well, we didn't hear, but we'll we will let you decide. Joe,
you want to tell Wes Moore why did not tell
truth while you why did you key spread a lot?
And that may lot? And you played the video showing
you a lot? And will k sorry ass still scared to.

Speaker 16 (02:08:58):
Call it a lot?

Speaker 1 (02:09:00):
And go ahead.

Speaker 15 (02:09:01):
He can't call it a lie because he'll lose his
position at Fox News, right.

Speaker 6 (02:09:05):
That's first and foremost.

Speaker 15 (02:09:06):
Secondly, that shows you that he doesn't do any show prep,
Like how do you watch the video and not even
know what's in the video? You're being paid millions of
dollars to do this, Will. But thirdly, this is why
I believe that we should pay no attention to MAGA
whatsoever when it comes to any claims they have against us.
Don't give it air, don't give it breath, just move
right past it.

Speaker 13 (02:09:25):
Why not that we have to.

Speaker 15 (02:09:26):
We don't have to lie about anything on our side,
but we also don't have to slow down and give
credence to the hypocrisies that MAGA wants to.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
Call out about us over here.

Speaker 8 (02:09:35):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 15 (02:09:36):
They have too many lives to sort through over the
last ten years alone for us to ever care about
what they say and call a hypocrisy on the left.

Speaker 1 (02:09:45):
It is just crazy to me. Michael will Came could
literally let it come out of his mouth. Well, Governor,
you weren't telling the truth. Governor, you were not being truthful. Governor,
you lied. And just the day before or two days earlier,
will Came could not even say Allie said, well, you

(02:10:08):
know we did, we did. We didn't quite hear, well,
let me let me play it again. You know we
didn't quite.

Speaker 16 (02:10:12):
We ain't quite.

Speaker 1 (02:10:13):
We need quite here, you know we didn't quite. And
then he tried to say it like softly, so I
guess we wouldn't hear him saying it. So we'll watch
this y'all again if you want to see. I love
these mag of people who loved talking about testoster wrong
and male strength. Ain't no male strength right here.

Speaker 33 (02:10:35):
Listen to this sure, we didn't hear their greatest presidents ever, but.

Speaker 1 (02:10:40):
We did hear oh we were well, we didn't hear
greatest president ever, but we did hear some some. We
did hear some some some great great words.

Speaker 33 (02:10:50):
Listen, enthusiasm and so excited to meet you, mister president.

Speaker 1 (02:10:54):
Who's telling the truth.

Speaker 17 (02:10:55):
We'll let you decide.

Speaker 1 (02:10:57):
Who's telling the truth. We'll let you decide. Here's what
we know. Michael, who's a line weak, impotent television hosts?

Speaker 6 (02:11:05):
We okay, right, right right.

Speaker 16 (02:11:08):
And there's a lot of them like that on Fox News,
and there's a some on MSNBC and CNN, but.

Speaker 6 (02:11:14):
Fox News is the worst.

Speaker 16 (02:11:17):
So with this right here, you see now for those
that don't know, and I had to, I had to
do some research on this. Governor Wes Moore in December
twenty twenty four received a Bronzett.

Speaker 6 (02:11:30):
It is true that in.

Speaker 16 (02:11:32):
Two thousand and six on a White House Fellowship application
he said that he had received the Bronze Star for
his service in Afghanistan, but that that was not true.

Speaker 1 (02:11:43):
But yeah, because that was right, No, no, because that
was a paperwork issue, and the commander later resubmitted it.

Speaker 16 (02:11:51):
Go ahead, yeah, yeah, And Also, I'm reading the piece
from the Associated Press and it says the application two
thousand and six White House Fellowship application when the paperwork
had not been fully processed.

Speaker 6 (02:12:05):
Okay, but he did eventually get it.

Speaker 16 (02:12:08):
One and and and Will Kine didn't really want to
admit that to uh Wes Moore actually served. Donald Trump
got five deferments, never served as a coward, got five
to firmacy. Not only that, Donald Trump said that his
Vietnam was was avoiding getting STD right, okay, And.

Speaker 1 (02:12:28):
And Will Caine ain't served nothing.

Speaker 16 (02:12:32):
But I never heard Donald Trump say he was successful
in not catching any STDs. Maybe that's another conversation, but
I'm just saying, so, this is the hypocrisy, right, This
is how, This is the how, how how you have
these cowards in mainstream media right who are afraid to

(02:12:53):
call a line line from a dictator.

Speaker 1 (02:12:55):
Matt, this real simple, Will can and listen. I used
to debate we'll on see in. I got his number.
He follows me on Twitter, I'll follow him on Twitter,
and we had back and forth debates. You know, he
went to University of Texas, sorry as school. I'm a
text and I'm graduate. But he was weak as hell
when I was at when I was at CNN, and
you know what this is. This is called if you

(02:13:17):
want to see white man failing upward, it's Willcaine. He's
the new Tucker Carlson, Okay, and they just love him
a thing. He's great, got a great head of hair.

Speaker 8 (02:13:26):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:13:27):
You know, supposed to a lawyer. That boy ain't right.
But you gotta be weake as hell where you want
to where you sitting there getting patted on the back. Oh,
he held Wes Moore, took him the task on this
whole issue when you were so impotent you couldn't even
say Donald Trump, And we played the video you lying,

(02:13:50):
he ain't say all that you said no, but but
he made matters words by sitting there going you decide.

Speaker 36 (02:13:57):
I'm not gonna just right, I'm not gonna say I
know what the video says. I mean, I know what
I know what Trump says. But we had the video
and I didn't quite hear any of that Trump saying.

Speaker 1 (02:14:10):
So sorry, I mean, Donald, I hate to go there,
but I think you're misconstrued. I think you stretch. I
think you I think you were over your skis. I
think you because they don't want to say live so
it would come on to any other the phrase, but
will sorry, ass couldn't even say that. I'm like, how

(02:14:31):
you look yourself in the mirror where you want to
try to challenge the governor and then your little weak
ass can't even call out a basic lie after your
ass played the video. First of all, you stupid, but
even playing the video because you look even more dumb
and sodas Trump bro.

Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
We got the receipts, we got the video of it.

Speaker 25 (02:14:53):
Right, it's not a conversation that somebody had and there's
no way to disprove it.

Speaker 2 (02:14:57):
We literally have what he said and didn't say.

Speaker 25 (02:15:00):
And that's why it shows you that this is all
about Maga racist vibes more than it is anything else,
because if you look at how we tried to repackage it, he.

Speaker 2 (02:15:08):
Said, well, we need to hear those words, but we
did hear some enthusiasm. So who'll let you decide?

Speaker 25 (02:15:12):
No, there's no decision because the truth is he didn't
say what Trump said he said, but that doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (02:15:17):
Truth doesn't matter to Maga. It's all about vibes.

Speaker 1 (02:15:19):
We know that.

Speaker 2 (02:15:20):
So the vibes here are, Oh, we're.

Speaker 25 (02:15:21):
Gonna make it look like Wes Moore was, you know,
showing the president love and whatever, fawning all over him,
which is also in some way kind of stupid, right
because they're elected officials.

Speaker 2 (02:15:30):
Elected officials are gonna do this.

Speaker 25 (02:15:32):
When the president comes, you're going to say, you know,
mister president, miss president, we want to thank you, welcome
you to our local locale, and thank you for what
you're doing.

Speaker 2 (02:15:41):
I mean, that's just kind of part and parcel with
the job. But he didn't say you're the best president ever, which.

Speaker 25 (02:15:46):
Is the claim, and Will Kine didn't have enough fortitude
to just say that outright.

Speaker 6 (02:15:51):
But that's the thing.

Speaker 25 (02:15:51):
It's not about journalism anymore, and it's not about truth.
It's about staying in Trump's good orbit and about the vibes.

Speaker 1 (02:15:58):
And that's what this is about.

Speaker 2 (02:16:00):
The gold Post. So you scored every time.

Speaker 1 (02:16:02):
And again I think probably I did a freeze frame
and I guess Will got to keep his lips inside
because when you kiss so much ass, you don't want
people to see the chap. And that was absolutely a
great will. I will award you this and I previously
awarded you. Hey, do y'all have that? Can y'all please

(02:16:22):
find the award that I previously gave Will Do.

Speaker 33 (02:16:25):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:16:26):
Can y'all pull that up please? You know, because I
and again I again, y'all remember the award I gave
Will Okay, And so what gets me is the sucking
up is that's was just so crazy to me, Like
the sucking up is so bad, Like you got to
kiss that ass so much. Okay, I get it, the

(02:16:48):
cap that people I let that food sit and say,
oh my god, you're the greatest ever in the history
of everness. You know, get a Nobel Peace Prize, I
get all that, But I'm like, bru, you got to
kiss the ass that like that much that you can't

(02:17:09):
even call a lie when you just played the lie,
you repeated the lie, you played the video that contradicted
the lie, and then you go, y'all heard it, you
decide because I don't want and you know what, I
got more respect if he went, Hey, y'all, listen, I

(02:17:33):
ain't trying to get on trump bad side. I really
need this job. The check is nice. They pay for
all of my hair care products. So listen, I am
not going to contradict anything that Donald Trump says because
I just can't do y'all have the award ready we

(02:17:54):
put this together. You know what, I think we should
just go ahead and play this again, because Will Caine,
you're outdoing yourself.

Speaker 27 (02:18:02):
Rowland Golden Trump Maga Asked Kissing a War, honoring a
lifetime of the exceptional flattery and unwavering dedication to ask
kissing excellence awarded to Fox News' is Willcane for on
paralleled commitment to the fine art of sycophancy. This prestigious
honor recognizes those who have bent over backward, perfected the

(02:18:25):
art of empty praise, and elevated brown nosing to an
Olympic level sport.

Speaker 13 (02:18:30):
From his relentless.

Speaker 27 (02:18:31):
Nodding in agreement to his uncanny ability to complement even
the most questionable decisions, Will Caine has demonstrated an unwavering
devotion to the craft of kissing asks. His lips have
graced the ass of twice impeached, criminally convicted felon in
chief Don the Contrump with such finesse that even history
itself must pause in admiration. May this Golden trump Maga

(02:18:55):
ask Kissing a War serve as a symbol of Wolcine's
lifelong achievement of uckering up and kissing the ass of
a wannabe dictator and ensuring his legacy of loyalty remains
forever unchapted.

Speaker 1 (02:19:16):
Weld Arn Will Weld Michael, then Matt today, So our
preach was wrong, Matt, Matt, that that's your fellow longhorn.

Speaker 2 (02:19:28):
Matt, Well, I didn't go to Texas. I don't know
why you don't remember that.

Speaker 1 (02:19:34):
No, no, but but but but you always you always
talking them up. So you always talking them up, and
I gonne you know again, you keep talking them unk.
You know, I guess I guess with all how buckeye'es
beicked that ass this we can Uh, you're not gonna.

Speaker 25 (02:19:48):
Gonna say something what I'm just saying. He was gonna
say something I do. He's gonna fill yourself in.

Speaker 8 (02:19:53):
Your best bit.

Speaker 1 (02:19:54):
Oh no, I'm trying to I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:19:56):
A gonna say so.

Speaker 1 (02:19:57):
So I'm just trying to say, So you didn't go there,
but you really really like them, right, I.

Speaker 25 (02:20:03):
Mean my parents met there, so my blood is literally orange.
How about oh you know that?

Speaker 1 (02:20:08):
Okay, yeah, yeah, no, I understand, but but.

Speaker 2 (02:20:10):
But but you always drove away from college stations.

Speaker 1 (02:20:13):
But but you always wrapping them so hard. You always
repping them so hard. So you're right, so great, So
go ahead, clank, go ahead claim we okay, now.

Speaker 2 (02:20:24):
No, definitely not doing that.

Speaker 25 (02:20:25):
Come on now, you don't gotta be disrespectful, brother, Come on,
you're crossing some lines.

Speaker 1 (02:20:29):
You cross the lines talking about the long ones on
this show.

Speaker 2 (02:20:33):
Gag them is all I got to say, Baby, Gag them.

Speaker 1 (02:20:35):
You know, you know what I say, saw horns all that.
What's gonna happen when I'm when i'm ohio Oh oh,
you know, first of all, you, first of all, you
know when they lose your ass will be the first
one to hear from it.

Speaker 2 (02:20:50):
No, no, no, no, not even They about to get
that done.

Speaker 1 (02:20:53):
You know you're gonna have let's go. You're gonna have
your phone on mute. You're gonna be on do not disturb.

Speaker 18 (02:21:00):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:21:01):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, let me take it.

Speaker 2 (02:21:03):
I'm gonna take it on the chin like I did
last time.

Speaker 30 (02:21:05):
Uh huh.

Speaker 25 (02:21:06):
That's the first time you ever text me. When they
got the they took that in, I was like, this
is the pettiest man in America. Let me tell you
about sustained.

Speaker 1 (02:21:16):
Sustained Ah, y'all, I got to go folks, y'all have
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(02:21:38):
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