Kirk Shooting Suspect Revealed, DOJ Voter Database Report, Crockett Slams GOP Over Minors

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Today is Friday, September twelve, twenty twenty five. Coming up
on Rolling Marking, Unfiltered Streaming Live on the Black Start Network. Man,
I've been waiting. I've been waiting. I've been waiting. I've
been waiting to talk to y'all all day. Hastad. We
tried to tell you MAGA is losing its mind because

(00:37):
one of their own was arrested for the murder of
Charlie Kirk. His mama, his daddy, his grandmama. They're all MAGA,
They're all Trump supporters. Early reports say he felt Charlie
Kirk was not conservative enough. Oh, we got CVS long receipts.

(01:00):
How all of these right wingers who are blaming the
left and blaming black people and blaming transgender they are
deleting tweets, deleting videos. We got lots to talk about. Also,
NBC MSNBC sends out a shameful email to the companies,

(01:20):
all the employees across the country calling Charlie Kirk a father,
a husband, a devout Christian, but they don't say nothing
about his blatant racism. Is that how Jermons are supposed
to be acted? Also, Donald Trump says he's gonna sait
the National Guard to Memphis. Next, we'll talk with State

(01:41):
Rosentative Justin Pearson about that issue. And in Dallas, Black
and Donald's operator Roland Paris holds his annual golf tournament.
He and I talk about black business and also the
importance of giving back y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Buckle up.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
It is time to bring the buck all rolling Martin
filtered on the Black Start Network. Let's go.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
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he's got scoop the fact, the fine way to place.
He's right on top and is rollan. Best believe he's
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with entertainment.

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Speaker 5 (02:36):
Yeah, rolling, He's Booky's breast. She's real the question.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
No, he's rolling, Montee.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Martel. Folks, We've got lots to break down today on
the show, and I can't wait until we get into it.
In about twenty minutes, we're going to talk to State
was in the Dustin Pearson represents Memphis because Donald Trump

(03:19):
plans on sending in the National Guard to Memphis to
talk about the issue of crime lots of stuff that
I want to get into on today's show. And then
of course y'all, y'all know we are going to get
into We're going to get into all of this nonsense

(03:43):
that we saw today, how White Maga is losing, How
all of a sudden, in forty eight hours, we went
from destroy, kill, take out the left these destructive animals.
I mean, they had all sorts of stuff to say

(04:03):
to now all of a sudden, let's pray, let's pray,
let's call upon God to speak to our minds and
hearts and pray for this, this troubled soul who allegedly
shot and killed their beloved Charlie Kirk. I mean, it

(04:25):
is a one hundred and eighty degree turn, because see,
it's amazing what happens when one of your own is busted,
When one of your own you come to find out
is responsible. I mean we had nothing, I mean nothing,

(04:48):
but did truy I mean all kinds of stuff. So y'all,
I got to get into a whole lot of this.
And so y'all know, we got lots to unpack. I mean,
we got lot to unpat. It's gonna I'm telling y'all
just want to buckle up. Y'all want to buckle up.
So let me get to some other news first before

(05:11):
I get to that. And I know y'all want me
to get to that, but trust me, we gotta let
folks get here. This thing gotta marinate because I'm telling
y'all we're gonna deal with this in the last part
of the show. We're gonna deal with that. Let's talk
about voting first. I have repeatedly said that the thug

(05:37):
in chief, Donald Trump, is a cheater. He's a cheater,
He's a liar. You can ask all of his wives
and his ex wives. He cheats at everything. Now, what
they're trying to do, they're trying to build this massive
database of voter information that's across the country. Okay. Now,

(05:59):
remember Steve Banner has been out here saying, well, we've
got lawyers saying that Trump could run for a third term,
even though the Constitution is very clear about only being
able to serve two terms. Okay. According to The New
York Times, and the Partment of Justice is gathering the
most extensive collection of national voter role data ever compile

(06:23):
in an attempt to substantiate their long heard, long held
unverified flat out lies about undocumented immigrants voting illegally. The
Time said the initiative involves collaboration between the civil rights
and the criminal divisions of the Justice Department. They're seeking

(06:46):
data is about data about individuals, names and addresses, which
experts say could potentially violate the law. Now, let's be clear,
these people are liars. They make up stuff. So I
don't have any any trust in anything that emanates from

(07:10):
anything associated with Donald Trump. Whether it's DOJ, whether it's
the Federal Trade Commission, the SEC. It doesn't matter. These
people love to lie, They love to push falsehoods and
want us to fall for the okie dokee. This is

(07:31):
also why I keep telling black people we can't be
sitting out elections. We can't be doing these things. In
Missouri today, what do they do. They pass Trump's racist
Jerry Mander map destroying the congressional district of Congressman e
Manuel Cleaver. They're in Kansas City, former mayor of Kansas City, preacher,

(07:55):
my alpha brother right now, and in miss it's seven
to two, seven Republicans, two Democrats. Two Democrats are Manual
Cleaver in Kansas City, Wesley Bell and Saint Louis. So
they don't want seven to two, they want eight to one.
So that's what's going on. That's also what's happening. So
I need our people to understand that they are targeting

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not just in documented immigrants, they are targeting black people,
and we better understand. This is the most vicious racist
assault on voting rights since Jim Crow. This is absolutely
Jim Crow two point zero. My panel today, Candice Kelly
Legal analysts host Not Allhood out of South Orange, New Jersey.

(08:39):
Appreciate you being here. Bat Manning civil rights attorney out
of Corpus Christi, Texas. Michael M. Motip hosts African History
Network show out of Detroit, Cannas. I'll start with you.
I'm clear, I don't trust anything. These people do nothing, nada.
They are liars, they are cheaters, and if they all
of a sudden come back, we've massive voter fraud, I

(09:02):
believe that it would be completely made up.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
Listen, this is already said under the Constitution, who actually
should manage the voting and manage who is how to
register things of that nature.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
It's an Article one. You know, little by little, what.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
We are seeing is we're seeing the administration try to
reverse the constitution. As you say, all the way back
to Jim Crow, that's what this is going to be.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
It's going to be an organization.

Speaker 6 (09:31):
Of voters that they seem to deem fit, that they
seem to say needs to be.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
On this voter registration list or not.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
As you said, it's only going to work out in
their favor, or else they wouldn't be doing it.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
They would not put out all of the.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
Money and effort in time to do something that doesn't
benefit them. So whatever they're cooking up, they're cooking up
to make it something good that tastes good just to them.
And that is what's going on right now. I mean,
there is no national voter registration and that is.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
For a reason. It belongs to the states.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
And as you mentioned already, we see what's happening with
jerry mandering already and what the Department and what the
federal government is doing there. We know it's just going
to bleed over into this composite of voter of those
who can vote. It will not work out well for
anybody who has an accent, anybody who is a person.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Of color, or or anybody who might be below the
poverty line. It will not work out.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I mean, look, Matt, they lost everywhere, every court, and
these foods, these liars insist on voter fraud. Republicans have
been yelling and screaming this voter fraud is nearly as
matter of fact, when you look at the cases of
actual voter fraud, it's done by Republicans.

Speaker 7 (10:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (10:58):
You know what I thought initially when I read this
story was data is the new oil.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
I think Candice kind of alluded to it. I don't
even know what's on.

Speaker 8 (11:07):
The back end of this, but I know it's one nefarious,
and two I think it's going to be something that's
going to end up really affecting the core question of
the validity of elections.

Speaker 9 (11:19):
Or at least they're going to try to make it that.

Speaker 8 (11:21):
And what they're likely going to do is find a
very small number of instances, if any at all, a
voter fraud, and they're going to try to magnify it
and show that there's some widespread voter fraud because as
we know, every one of those cases that got filed
related to that was lost, right, I mean, people lost
law licenses behind moving those false cases. So I think
it's a question of how are they going to ultimately

(11:43):
use this data.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
I know part of it is a citizenship attack.

Speaker 8 (11:46):
You know, they're checking people's citizenship status, and we know
that there's going to be an immigration nexus. But beyond that, I.

Speaker 7 (11:53):
Think Cannas is right.

Speaker 8 (11:54):
There's something that they're cooking up, and I don't know
exactly what it's going to be, but surely it's going
to be try to undermine both local and federal elections
and to just make Americans that large just think you
can't trust any elections, despite the fact that most states
are able to have stable and what is the word
credible elections, you know, in any cycle. So that's what

(12:16):
I think is coming down the pipe, but I don't
know exactly what that looks like just yet.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Michael. With these people, people might as well go ahead
and get ready. Donald Trump is going to send ICE,
US Marshalls, every federal law enforcement to polling places to
intimidate people. They're going to make up stuff with these
voter rolls. There's nothing I do not trust these people at.

Speaker 10 (12:42):
All, right, and we shouldn't trust them. And in addition
to the in addition to ICE and the National Guard,
you could have the prowd boys and the hose keepers
show up as well, because we know he gave pardons
to fit ten hundred insurrectionists that try to overthrow the

(13:02):
government in twenty twenty one January.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Sixth, So yeah, this is more.

Speaker 10 (13:08):
This is more of the authoritarian play that's taking place
and that's playing out.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
And what we have to realize is this is the
This is this is them.

Speaker 10 (13:24):
Fearing the African American vote, This is them fearing the
vote of latinos, et cetera. And this is a desperate
play for them to power. And as you've talked about
your book, White Fear, they fear twenty forty three when
it's projected that white people will become the minority population

(13:46):
in this country. So yeah, we have to get ready.
We have to study Project twenty twenty five and develop
strategies to fight against this.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Our people. To understand what's going on here, I needed
to understand that they are going to be attacking black people.
Look this national voter registration database. That's one thing. They
are scared to death, Candace. They can't lose the house.
They are so despinal again, they're Candice that they're gerrymandering

(14:22):
seats they're doing everything they know the economy is tanking.
It is tanking their own people upset with them. They
will do whatever, they will do whatever they can to cheat,
and that's what their goal is, and people need to
not go. Well, I'm not quite sure, Roland. I think
you're just hyping this thing up. No, I'm not.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
Well, let's take a look. The midterms are coming up.
What's that thirty three seats that are at stake. You're correct,
they have something in mind because they need something to
build on to say, listen, what we're doing is right.
But this vote registration thing that's going on, and that
what we've been experienced for.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
All of our lives, it's wrong.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
And that is what they are setting up for the
other thing that they are doing by setting up this
national voter registration list again under their umbrella. So we
know how that's going to turn out. Is that nobody's
mentioning any more of Jeffrey Epstein?

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Really are they? I mean it's really gone away. So
you have to.

Speaker 6 (15:22):
Look at all of these things as distractors that they are.
This is what they want us and all of the
media to be talking about. And yes, it's happening, and
we need to be talking about. But there are other
issues that are even bigger that we're not talking about,
and that is also part of the strategy. They're going
to use this in campaigning, and they're going to use

(15:43):
this to deflect other things that we're going to find
out about a year from now.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, I'm telling you, Matt, we have to be extremely
protective these people. They are going to cheat, they're going
to try to do everything. And remember what Donald Trump
said in twenty sixteen, black people, thank you for not voting.
The only way to seeing these people a message is

(16:12):
if we have y'all want to do boots on the ground,
do boots on the ground to the ballot box.

Speaker 8 (16:18):
That's what you do, Matt, precisely, especially because you can't
trust the Supreme Court's going to get it right if
it gets up there.

Speaker 9 (16:26):
To them, it's purely a numbers game.

Speaker 8 (16:28):
So it's got to be boots on the ground to
the ballot and it can't be people who are saying
I don't love you know, one of the candidates, or
I feel like they're not talking to me one hundred percent.
People have to not only be informed, but they have
to say ultimately, no, politician is going to be perfect.

Speaker 9 (16:42):
But if I sit this out, we're.

Speaker 8 (16:44):
Going to have another Trump or another person trying to
take his place, and we cannot abide that. I mean,
we're in this position because people didn't vote the way
they needed to. And it really baffles me that we
as a country, or the people in this country who
voted voted for Donald Trump twice to be our president.
That should not happen in a rational world. And the
way you stop that is people going to actually cast

(17:06):
their vote so people cannot be riding the couch in
the midterms and in subsequent elections.

Speaker 10 (17:15):
Michael Yo, when I mentioned Project twenty twenty five, is
important for people to understand that forty seven percent of
Project twenty twenty five policies have been implemented in the
approximately the first eight months of Donald Trump's presidency, and
that's tracked by Project twenty twenty five tracker. Secondly, I
think we have to change the language. It is not

(17:36):
they are going to cheat, is they are cheating what
we just saw in Missouri today, okay with the new maps,
that is cheating what we saw in Texas with Republicans
in Texas Jered Mandering the map's mid term I mean
mid census, not waiting on the census to redraw district maps.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
That is cheating.

Speaker 10 (17:56):
So it's not that they are going to cheat, is
that they are cheating and they're going to do it
even more so, the question is how do African Americans
organize the fight against this?

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Okay, because they this is an all out assault.

Speaker 10 (18:12):
You've talked about, You've talked about defunding Black America, Roland.
This is the worst assault on African Americans since going
back to the modern day civil rights move.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
It is, and we've got to be prepared going to break.
We come back. We're gonna talk with Tennessee State Representative
Jackson Pearson. Don Trump said he's now singing to the
National Guard into Memphis. Yes, Memphis, they're watching Roland mad
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Next on the Black Table with me Greg Carr.

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Speaker 2 (19:00):
Believe it or not, we've seen it all before. Your
people in the North. You're so sympathetic to black people.

Speaker 11 (19:06):
You take start sixty years ago. They called it the
reverse freedom riots. Back then, southern governors shipped black people
north with the false promise of jobs and a better life.
It's part of a well known playbook being brought back
to life.

Speaker 9 (19:22):
So what's next.

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That's next on the Black Table A conversation with doctor
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Hatred on the Streets, a horrific scene white nationalists rally
that descended into deadly violence.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
We white people are losing their their mind.

Speaker 14 (23:23):
As antary pro Trump mob storms to the US capital.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Since show, we're about to see the lives where I
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this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I
think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial.

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This is part of American history.

Speaker 10 (23:43):
Every time that people of color have made progress, whether
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This is the wrath of the proud boys and the
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Speaker 9 (23:58):
Well, this country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors.

Speaker 7 (24:04):
And its attitudes because of the fear of white people.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
The few that you're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources,
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(24:30):
my man of luck er And you're watching Roland Martin unfiltered,
deep into it like pasteurized milk without the two percent.
We're getting deeped. You are turning that shut off. We're
going to interview with brother Bubble. Donald Trump is saying

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the National Guard to Memphis. The Tennessee governor, Governor Litle
Lie he's certainly happy with it. Well, the mayor of
Memphis Paul Young said he did not ask for it.
It's not his choice, but the decision has been made,
so therefore he'll work with them. I don't understand that decision.
He doesn't have to work with them. It's not like

(25:14):
he doesn't have the same issues that Muriel Bowser has
in Washington d C. Whether fans can have control over
Washington d C. Join us right now? Is state resident
of Justin Pearson. Let to have you bet on the show.
In the second, We're going to play some of the
mayor's news conference today. But this is clear Donald Trump,

(25:36):
oh red state governor, he's not going to pose this.
He got opposition from Governor Pritskoll to Illinois Democrat, opposition
Gavin Newsom in California Democrat. So now he's found his
perfect foil, a red state governor who says, sure, come
on in.

Speaker 9 (25:54):
Absolutely. I mean, what we are seeing is again another
significant abuse of power by this administration against a black community.
The majority of residents and people who live in Memphis
and Shelby County are black African American folk. And the
fact that he started at Los Angeles, the fact that
he targeted Washington d C, threatened to target Chicago is
no coincidence. This is all a part of employee as

(26:17):
it relates to authoritarianism and him being a dictator want
to be and enshrining white supremacy and its abuse of
power in our communities. And so we have to speak
up at minimum and resist what is happening. Because this
is only the start. We know, this is not how
it ends. Midterm elections are coming up. Presidential elections are
coming up. So what happens when he deploys the National

(26:38):
Guard into our communities during those times? And as you said,
this is a state that's run by reied government, This
is by Republicans, and yet they are investing in the
things that we need for them to they're attacking and
threatening our communities.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
So, okay, we're going to play a little bit a second.
So when the mayor said, I have no choice, okay,
I don't understand that. Here's what I'm looking at, all right,
So federal government, So Governor Lee, if y'all want to
send in these troops and you want to spend hundreds

(27:15):
of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars, how about
y'all simply cut a check for Memphis to be able
to expand crime prevention efforts, and not just when it
comes to police, but also when it comes to the
other issues, economic issues that impact loan ring crime, which

(27:36):
is what Brandon Scott did in Maryland, which is what
Brandon Johnson has done in Chicago.

Speaker 9 (27:42):
You cannot have a conversation about crime in this country
without talking about poverty. There is no way that you
need to have a military occupation where you don't even
have policies for policy intervention, prevention, and alleviation. And in
this state there has been an intentional effort not to
do anything of eradicating poverty, and yet we give billions

(28:02):
in tax cuts to corporations. Donald Trump, Bill Lee, Cameron Sexton,
Ran McNally. None of these people care about Memphis or
the people who live here. They don't care about ending crime,
they don't care about any of those things. They're using
this as a part of their political talking points as
well as political power building for building an authoritary regime
and destroying our democracy. But if they actually wanted to help,

(28:24):
they would give tens of billions of dollars to Memphis,
the Shelby County to eradicate poverty, to fix housing. I'm
sure kids are getting adequately educated, but they aren't trying
to deal with the root causes of the very issue
that they're talking about. Why Because Bill Lee's been in
office eight years. He hasn't tried to do anything about poverty,
He hasn't tried to do anything substantially about crime. Why

(28:45):
because the National Rifle Association, the Tennessee Firearms Association is
in these folks back pocket, and so they know that
they're not going to put forward any laws to actually
end the gun violence epidemic actually prevent gods from being
in the hands of people who otherwise should not have this.
One of the reasons that I got expelled a couple
of years ago was fighting against gun violence and demanding
gun safety legislation. They don't want to address the problem,

(29:07):
but they do want to use our black city as
a pawn in this authoritarian game. And we do have
a responsibility as elected officials to speak up and to
stand up against this and to demand that we get
the resources from the federal government financially and don't get
a military occupation.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
We reached out to the mayor's office. We got no
response from the mayor's office, but we did pull this
statement for social media. Mayor Paul Young said earlier this week,
I was informed that the governor and the President were
considering deploying the National Guard and other resources to Memphis.
I'm committed to working to ensure any efforts strengthen our

(29:49):
community and build on our progress. We agree with Governor
Lee that effective support for Memphis come through focused initiatives
that deliver results like we have seen with the FBI's
the troopers, and other law enforcement partnerships. But we need
most are financial resources for intervention and prevention, additional patrol
officers in case support to stricted MPDS investigations. Memphis is

(30:11):
already making measurable progress in bringing down crime, and we
support initiatives that help accelerate the pace of the work
out officers, community partners, and residents are doing every day.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Unquote.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
I take it you never heard. I take it that
Governor Bill Lee never consulted you take it that US
Cenator Bill Haggerty and US Senator Marshall Blackburn never consulted
you on any of this.

Speaker 9 (30:34):
Absolutely not. They haven't consulted me, they haven't called, and
they won't They won't call because they actually don't want
to address the root causes of the problems that we're
dealing with. They only want to continue to perpetuate a
narrative of criminality, black criminality. They only want to continue
to perpetuate a narrative that black folks, you all can't
govern yourselves, you all can lead yourself. You all do
not have the solutions, and so the only thing that

(30:55):
you will understand is having militarized men, women, and people
in your community of policing and taking on police powers
that they otherwise should not have. This is detrimental not
only to the idea of having a democracy, is detrimental
to the beliefs that many of us hold about the
right to self government. And years ago that may have
been a Republican saying or a theme for their party,

(31:17):
But it has to be our responsibility to protect and
to defend ourselves from these overreaches and power by this
administration and by these white supremacists who only want to
use our cities to use pain that we actually do
experience and endure as talking points for them. In the
political sense. They haven't called me, They're not going to
call me.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
But what they are going to.

Speaker 9 (31:38):
Hear is the voices of our community they are going
to hear other elected officials who have the courage to
speak up and to actually say what needs to be said,
stand up and fight back against what is happening in
our community. We do want financial federal investment that we
do want. We don't want a military occupation. And for
decades we have been deprived of getting the resources that

(32:00):
we need to actually deal with the eradication of poverty,
to deal with the housing insecurity. Thirty six percent of
children in Memphis are living in poverty, and this has
been consistent for years, and we have yet to have
leadership nationally at the local, especially not at the state level,
to actually address the root causes of the problem. And
gun violence is the leading cause of death for kids

(32:23):
under the age of eighteen. That doesn't happen by coincidence
for accident, that is done by policies being passed at
the state legislature that has made it easier for people
to have access to fire arms than it is for
them to access a higher way job. That's what we
have to change, and that's what we have to articulate
in this mogment and in.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
This and corfect if I'm wrong. After that, was that
mass shooting at a school. Wasn't the first action of
the Republican control legislature to give gun manufacturers community.

Speaker 9 (32:57):
One of the first bills they had was to give
gun manufacturers immunity. Another bill that they had was to
arm teachers. And then one of the first acts they
took after that was my expulsion and my colleagues expulsion.
So they have never actually taken the issue of black
pain seriously. They've never actually taken the issue of gun
violence disproportionately hurting and harming our community in Memphis and

(33:20):
Shelby County seriously. But now all of a sudden, they're saying,
this overreach into our community, the National Guard coming into
Memphis is the solution, without ever taking a single step
to prevent the problem from happening. Because they don't want
for us to be successful. They don't want for our
kids to grow up, They don't want for our community

(33:42):
to succeed. They want to continue to have people in
Tennessee because we are Tennesseeans being mistreated, misused, and abused.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
By the government.

Speaker 9 (33:51):
And this is the history of this state, this is
the history of this country for its black residents or
as black citizens in particular, the state budget with sixty
billion dollars, Ask me how many billions came back to Memphis.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
And shut down.

Speaker 9 (34:07):
They're not enough, and that is the problem we deserve,
we den't, but they yet to do it.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
We'll match you first.

Speaker 8 (34:23):
Yeah, situation where you don't have a Supreme court that
is going to enforce the sovereignty essentially of your local community,
what funding or appropriations or or other mechanism do you
have to push back? Because before you answer, what I've

(34:44):
really been struggling with is we were to have a
crisis of federalism in this country right now. You have
a president goes far overstepping his bounds into realms that
are supposed to be yours right or other locally elected politicians,
realms of influence.

Speaker 9 (34:59):
So what do you see as mechanisms to push back
against that.

Speaker 8 (35:02):
When you see the courts, at least a Supreme court
is not holding the line the way it needs to.

Speaker 9 (35:08):
Yeah, I mean you have a couple of things. One,
you have court cases that the administration has lost or
likely to lose when they try to encroach in California,
the threat in Maryland, and because those are democratically controlled states,
they are more difficult for the president to send in
National guardsmen and National Guards folks as policing presences. But

(35:31):
when you have a very weak cowardice Bill Lee or
Republican leaders like Cameron Sexton and the like in Tennessee,
they're able to more easily corrupt them because they're Republicans, empower, empower,
and misuse their authority against their citizens, in this case
citizens in Memphis and Shelby County. So our response has

(35:53):
to look at all legal means, and we're fortunate that
there are a lot of lawyers helping our city government
and leaders to underst and what is our power, What
are our leverages for power that we can ask for,
What demands can we make to ensure that our citizens
are safe. We are deeply worried and concerned about over
police and we had the National Guard in Memphis after
doctor King was assassinated. We had the National Guard in

(36:15):
Memphis in nineteen seventy eight when the firefighters went on strike.
It does not bode well for us and for our
communities that already experience over policing. We've lost in Memphis, Tennessee,
Tyree Nichols at the hands of police officers, and so
we know that having more policing is not the answer.
That there are some legal avenues that we are learning

(36:35):
so that we will be able to defend ourselves against
the encroachment of the federal government into our community and
to defend each and every one of our residents as
best as we possibly can. But this is unprecedented territory
for us in the twenty first century, and so we're
having to fight in this present moment.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Well, let's go to Candice.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
Tys Nichols and certainly these three of the five officers,
they've been granted new trials because of something that the
judge said. And I am wondering what is the state
of the police there in your estimation?

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Have there been any type of.

Speaker 6 (37:14):
Changes or anything that you've seen with groups on the
ground with the police since the beating death.

Speaker 9 (37:20):
Yeah, I mean the death of Tyree Nichols is heartbreaking.
His family has become family to me, Mama Wells, mister Wells,
his sister. I'm very close with them and they're some
of the strongest, most powerful people that I've ever had
the opportunity to meet. And what's happening with the trial
in particular is heartbreaking and devastating. The fact that a
new trial has been granted for these three officers who

(37:42):
were each found guilty of some crime very recently, until
that was overturned because a judge said something that he
should not have said and it tainted the entire case,
according to the judge who reviewed that appeal. And so
there's a lot of heartbreaking pain in shock as it
relates to the case of Tyree Nichols and elevating his

(38:03):
life and the case of the officers I would say,
who took his life away. When it comes to our
policing in our city, we tried and did pass laws
locally to protect our community. The state preempted our laws
and tried to undo them. The chief of police has
said that she's following those laws, following those policies that

(38:23):
were passed by the city council. I do believe. But
the reality is we are still over policed, particularly in
poor black and brown communities, more than anybody else. We're
still more likely to die at the hands of police
officers than any other demographic of people. And so we
have not solved again all of the problems that need

(38:44):
to be addressed as relates to policing in our communities.
And the National Guard. They are not a police force.
They have no idea about community policing. They do not
have the work, the role, the responsibility of policing communities.
That's not their jobs. And so you're putting very ill equipped,
ill trained people into an urban setting, a city setting
as ours is, and giving them powers, potentially giving them

(39:07):
powers and giving them authority that they should not otherwise have,
which can only be detrimental for our community. And we
have to fight and speak up and speak back now,
because we shouldn't wait until something bad happens to call
out what is going on. That we have a white
supremacist president of the United States attacking a black community
and weaponizing the military to enter into an authoritarian regime,

(39:29):
and the consequences of that for our community are detrimental
and could be dire, and so we need to speak
about it now so that if there are ways that
we can prevent that and protect our citizens, protect our people,
we're able to do that. And I know a lot
of good community organizations are already working on your rights
trainings because we are going to have to protect ourselves.
Memphis going to protect Memphis, and that's the work, and

(39:50):
that's the responsibility right.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Now, Michael.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Representative Pearson.

Speaker 10 (39:58):
Today, Associated Press has an article about this and they
said that Donald Trump said on Friday that he decided
to send troops into Memphis, Tennessee, after Union Pacific CEO
Jim Veena urged him to do so early in the
week to address crime in the city of Memphis, Tennessee. Now,

(40:19):
this is at a time when Memphis has overall crime
has hit a twenty five year low the first eight
months of twenty twenty five, and murders have hit a
six year low as well.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Do you know anything about this conversation? Have you heard
anything about this? Number one? Number two? What type of
investments would you like the federal government to make?

Speaker 10 (40:40):
We know eight hundred eleven million dollars in public safety
and victim service grants have been cut by the Trump administration,
So what type of investments would you like to see?

Speaker 9 (40:51):
Yeah, I mean, it's a terrifying thing when a very
wealthy person can meet with the President of the United
States one time, and then a decision that impacts over
nine hundred thousand p people in my city and county
happens almost overnight and is announced on Fox and Friends.
That's too much power that's being given overwhelmingly wealthy white

(41:11):
men in the United States of America, but in our
city we are even fighting Elon Musk and the Chamber
of Commerce Ted Townsend. It's the same principle, wealthy white
people being able to dictate what is good, what is
necessary for communities, and that isn't how you build safer communities,
healthier communities, communities that are going to be sustainable into
the future, for future generations. And so I've heard of

(41:34):
that conversation. It concerns me greatly because billionaires are running
our government, and they're running it in the conversations that
they're having, they're running it in the laws that they're passing,
such as the big Ugly Bill that literally gave four
trillion dollars worth of wealth to rich people in this
country and stole it from poorer people like this pattern
is endemic and systemic in the way that this country

(41:57):
has been operating, but particularly under this administration that doesn't
care about poor people, doesn't care about black folks, Latino folks,
Asian folks, doesn't care about anybody who is not a billionaire,
who is not wealthy, who is not influential in the
ways that they regard and so it is a wee problem.
It's about us, It's about all of us, And whether
you are a poor white person or not, you need
to realize that just because they are stealing and coming

(42:20):
after our rights today does not make you safe and
does not guarantee anything for you. And the erosion of
democracy in our lives is the erosion of democracy in
our entire political life. And what are the investments that
we need? To your point, there's a recognition that hundreds
of millions billions of dollars that otherwise would have helped
with violence intervention programs that would have reduced the amount

(42:40):
of people who are getting sick and don't have access
to healthcare, or hungry and don't have access to food.
All of those types of programs are being cut by
this administration. They are doing things to make it harder
for everybody to live, and yet they're blaming the consequences
of my actions on majority black cities on majority leads.

(43:00):
This is part of what's moral and unjustice. So what
do we need and what am I calling for? Ten
billion dollars of investment into Memphis and Shelby County to
help us with housing ten billions of dollars of investment
to help us with educating each and every one of
our children so that they are at the right literacy level.
When we know two thirds of our children are graduating
and they are not even reading at the great level

(43:21):
that they should. We need billions of dollars of investments
that actually deal with the problem on the front end.
Not militarization, not over policing, not a military occupation, but
an intervention as it relates to financial investment from Memphis
and Shelby County. That's what we should be demanding. That's
what we should be speaking about. I'm not looking for
us to partner with the National Guard. I'm looking for
us to demand that the federal government give us our

(43:43):
money back and invest in our community because we are
suffering in so many different ways. We have some of
the folks who are struggling the most here. We have
some of the highest levels of unemployment, some of the
highest levels of people being on housed. We've got some
real challenges. But we need the federal government to do
a job and get us more resources. And that's the
job of our congressman, that's the job of our city leaders.

(44:04):
That's the job of the president of the United States,
and if you would focus on that job, we wouldn't
be talking about crime in so many different places.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
All right, State justin Pearson man, we appreciate it. Keep
up a good fight.

Speaker 9 (44:18):
Hey, we're fighting together. Let's keep going.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
All right, thanks a lot. All Right, folks going to
break and we come back. We have got to talk
about how white maga is losing their shit because one
of their own was arrested for the murder of Charlie Kirk.
We're gonna tell you about Tyler Robinson, his family, where
he went to school. And it's a whole lot of

(44:43):
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Speaker 1 (47:37):
Big news today they announced in Utah that a suspect
was arrested in the shooting death of Charlie Kirk. The
right wing provocateur was gunned down while speaking at Utah
at a university in Utah. Tyler Robinson is the young
man's name. He was turned in by his father, former

(47:58):
law enforcement form a sheriff minister. He comes from a
Maga family. His grandmother is on record saying I don't
know anybody in his family who is a Democrat. Uh.
And what's now now we're hearing that according reports that
he was a groper. That is, that is a far far,
far right. Nick foent Test Uh, the racist white supremacist,

(48:23):
acknowledged white supremacist, anti Semite. He apparently is a follower
of him. Also crazy crazy to range Laura Lumer. Uh,
she's been deleting a lot of her tweets as well,
a lot of her tweets dealing with Charlie Kirk as well.
It has been an unbelievable day, folks.

Speaker 13 (48:43):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
And just watching all of this stuff unfold, Uh, it's
been unbelievable. There was, also, of course, the news conference
this weird City from cash ptails. I don't know what
tell he was talking about, but check this out. So
Nick foyentt Test, I'm y'all need to understand this dude
had two hundred thousand people watching him live last night.

(49:07):
He has cultivated a massive following, and he was highly
critical of Charlie Kirk, attacking Charlie Kirk as not being
a real Christian. The videos are amazing to see this,
this sole back and forth. Oh this is also the
guy who had lunch with Donald Trump along with Kanye
West and mar Largo. So just so y'all understand how

(49:30):
all this is wrapped up and what's crazy is remember that,
Oh they were blaming the left, calling for folks to
be fired, all sorts of stuff. But it's amazing how
their tone has totally shifted, totally shifted. Now that a
white guy. We tried to tell you, Remember I told

(49:53):
everybody stopped up at the conclusions, Let's play.

Speaker 18 (49:55):
It all out.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
No, the left, the left, the left, the left, the radicals,
the crazy, their terrorrists. What say you now? So quint
is who was on the receiving end of a big
New York Times article last week, realizing he's about to
get a lot of heat for his views, he posted

(50:19):
this video today.

Speaker 21 (50:24):
This is a very delicate situation. This is a very
delicate situation. I fear that this is set off a
chain reaction. I pray to God there is no further violence.
I pray to God. Then nobody else has hurt as
a result of this. I hope that it stops here.

(50:44):
It should stop here. To all of my followers, if
you take up arms, I disavow you, I disown you
in the strongest possible terms. That is not what we
are about. And the same goes obviously for the other side.
And I want to make that very clear. It would

(51:06):
be a profound moral political mistake for anybody to take
the bait and to engage in any kind of reprisal, retaliation, revenge. Remember,
we are the good side, and what makes us good

(51:27):
is that.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
We have Christ.

Speaker 21 (51:30):
What makes Christianity and Christ so different from the other
religions is that our religion is based on the bearing
of suffering for the sake of even those that persecute us,
and overflowing of love, and overflowing of self giving love,

(51:53):
so much of it it cannot be contained, and unconditional,
absolute standard of love for all of God's children, even
those that are misguided, even those that persecute us, even
the most heinous among us. That is what makes us different,

(52:16):
That is what makes us good. You think you're good.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
You're not.

Speaker 21 (52:23):
You are not good.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
I am not good.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
You are a man, I am a man. You are
a sinner. I am a sinner.

Speaker 21 (52:32):
We cannot save ourselves, We cannot save this world. God
can save us. God can save the world. And God
saves us. And God saves the world by drawing all
of us up onto the cross with him, and we
join not just in his glory, but in his suffering,

(52:56):
real suffering, not imaginary, not a nice story, real suffering,
real death, real destruction, real misery. We bear across like
Christ bears across, like his disciples, like the martyrs, like
the Saints bear across. And you better get comfortable up there.
Drink up, and you bear that cross, not for your kim,

(53:21):
not for yourself, not for your children, which are an
extension of yourself. You bear that cross and that suffering
you drink from that chalice for your enemies.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Sounds pretty desperate to me. Huh, yeah, I thought so.
Utah Governor. He has been talking about how we need
to bring posts together. He is you talk, Governor Spencer Cox.
He was hoping the killer wasn't even American.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
You know, this bad stuff happens and for thirty three hours.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
I was.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
Praying that.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
If this had to happen here, that it wouldn't be
one of us that somebody drove from another state, somebody
came from another country.

Speaker 22 (54:24):
That sadly that that prayer was not answered the way
I hoped for it, just because I thought it would
make it easier on us if.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
We could just say, hey, we don't do that here.
And indeed, Utah is a special place.

Speaker 9 (54:37):
We leave the nation in charitable giving, we leave the
nation in service every year.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
And mane, you've got the stupid Hall of Famer Donald
Trump Junior, who's an absolute idiot. Oh, this is what
he had to say.

Speaker 18 (54:56):
They realized they lost the debate entirely, so they have
to resort to violence. And contrary to what we're seeing
elsewhere and online, it is not going both ways. It
is going one way. It's coming from those aligned with
the Democrat Party. The hate has been fomented by those
in the Democrat Party and you can probably play hundreds

(55:16):
of hours of those clips.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
It's coming from the media.

Speaker 18 (55:20):
You know, some of them are doing a quick course
correction and probably scrub their social media feeds for all
the things they've said about Charlie, myself, my father over
the last few years. But you can't call someone who
you disagree with or simply can't win an argument with
a Nazi, a fascist, a dictator, a greatest threat to
democracy in the history of civilization, and then pretend you

(55:42):
had nothing to do with it when the more radical wing,
and there does not seem to be all that much
difference to me these days, takes up arms and tries
to kill those they disagree with. It's not one way,
it's not both ways. It is simply one way. And
you know, anyone who's saying otherwise, you know, you should
be thrown off the air.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
That's interesting because that's what mag is now doing. And man,
they are scrubbing left and right, y'all. Oh, let's take
South Carolina cons Woman Nancy Mates, who's running for governor.
This is Nancy yesterday, before today's news.

Speaker 17 (56:30):
This shit ends like enough is enough, and now I
have to deal with real safety concerns.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
It sounds like the shooter was a tranny or pro tranning.

Speaker 17 (56:39):
And just because I want to protect women that I'm
worried about getting murdered, are you fucking kidding me? This
is is out of control, and enough is enough, and
I'm gonna double down on this.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
I'm gonna be more vigilant than ever. I'm gonna be
louder than I've ever been, and so this shit stops.
It's got to stop. And all the security measures.

Speaker 17 (57:00):
We've taken many security measures leading up to this because
of these lunatic trainees. But now, I mean, I have
police posts it outside of my offices in South Carolina.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
I have employees that are afraid to come to work.
I have children who think they're going to get murdered
at school.

Speaker 7 (57:14):
And so this is it's going to end.

Speaker 17 (57:18):
And you guys in the press and can be more
responsible about this and actually be fair and cover the
things that are happening.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
It's unbelievable what's happening in this country.

Speaker 17 (57:26):
And you know, the left of the Democrat Party has
allowed this stuff to happen.

Speaker 7 (57:29):
And I'm fucking sick.

Speaker 5 (57:30):
And tired of it. Do you know who the shooter is?

Speaker 17 (57:33):
No, but we've heard reports privately, and I guess it's
being reported out now. Some of the anti fascist, pro
transgender things that were written either inside the rifle or
on the ammunition.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
You might know better than I do do.

Speaker 21 (57:47):
You know if they've identified nothing that has been put
in court documents or sworn to at all.

Speaker 17 (57:52):
Yeah, well, this is a political assassination and any any
you know theory otherwise it is bullshit and a lie.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
So I hope you guys will report on honestly.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
That was yesterday the Wall Street Journal ran that ironious
article talking about there were trans whatever the hell, whatever
the hell on the inside of the rifle. That was
a bullshit story. So guess what Nancy Mace was tweeting today, y'all?
Please show her tweet? Please show because she had such

(58:30):
righteous indignation in blaming the media and you don't cover
these things, and so can we pull a tweet up please? Okay,

(58:51):
give me a second, yoall. Nancy All was just full
of herself and she was tweeting out, oh about how
we need to now pray for the shooter now again.

(59:18):
She was full of it yesterday. She had such vitriol yesterday.
But Nancy sounds a little bit different today. Nancy said, yes,
time to go back to the death people. Now, she tweets,
we know Charlie would want we know Charlie Kirk will

(59:39):
want us to pray for such an evil and lost
individual like Tyler Robinson to find Jesus Christ. We will
try to do the same. Matter of fact, it gets better,
she said. We truly believe if Tyler Robinson had ever

(01:00:02):
sat down across from Charlie, the great debater, the man
of faith and grace he was, Tyler wouldn't have pulled
the trigger. Wow, that is an incredibly different tone than

(01:00:24):
Nancy yesterday. Hmm ain't that grand?

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Y'all?

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
So I got more to show you, Okay, Laura Lumer,
Laura Lumer, who was ripping into Charlie Kirk. Now we
know that Tyler Robinson apparently was following Laura Lumer on
social media. So Lumer has been feverishly delete, delete, delete deleete.

(01:00:56):
Come on, pull up her tweet. Please, let's show you
what poor Laura was saying. They sent a trained sniper
to assassinate Charlie Kirk while he was sitting next to
a table of hats that said forty seven you could
be next. I hate to say it, but I have
a sick feeling we'll be seeing more targeted assassinations. The
left are terrorists today. Next, Come on, y'all, next, it's

(01:01:26):
time for this Trump administration. This is also you see, yes,
you see September tenth. This is also September tenth, y'all,
two days ago, the day of the shooting. It's time
for the Trump administration to shut down, defund, and prosecute
every single leftist organization. If Charlie Kirk died from his injuries,
his life cannot be in vain. We must shut these

(01:01:46):
lunatics left this down, wants it for all. The left
is a national security threat. Don't we have another Laura
Lumer post? Do we have another one? Okay? Well, because
here says I had three of them. He says I

(01:02:07):
had three, So don't tell another one. My grad says
have three graphics. Okay, all right, y'all. Now this is
the same lawa Lumer, y'all who was pulled up least,

(01:02:30):
So here you have Laura Lumer. Okay again, y'all. These
people are just you gotta that they just they just
makeup stuff. But this is this is Laura Lumer law
before the shooting, y'all. Oh, by the way, she deleted
this post. I don't ever want to hear Charlie Kirk

(01:02:52):
claim he is pro Trump ever again, after this weekend,
I'd say, he has revealed himself as political opportunities, and
I have had a front row seat to witness the
mental gymnastic these last ten years. Lately, Charlie has decided
to behave like a Charlatan, claiming to be pro Trump
one day while he stabs Trump in the back to necks.
Tp USA was only able to thrive thanks to the
generosity of President Trump. On the one year anniversary of

(01:03:15):
the assassination of Tip of Trump's life, Charlie hosted comic
David Smith at tpusa's SAS conference, where Dave Smith was
able to speak to a bunch of conservative youth and
an organization that claims me pro Trump. Three weeks ago,
Dave Smith called for President Trump to be impeached and
removed from office, even over his decision to blow up
Around's nuclear facilities. Charlie played both sides of the Iran

(01:03:36):
issue on his show, as we all saw, because he
wants to play the both sides of the aisle. The
honorable thing to do is to have a position and
actually defend it to the death instead of flip flopping.
That was of course posted before he was shot and killed,
but then the same Laura Lumer came back and now

(01:03:57):
she was calling for things to change. Yeah, same one,
same one. So they're losing it. They're losing it.

Speaker 23 (01:04:15):
Let's see here, who else did I have? Who else
shall I I shall bring up? Let's see here, Kay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Got some mother twist, Because again, y'all, it has been
hilarious to watch these people because they have just been
just going left and right. Oh oh, elon musk he
tweeted the left is the party of murder. But now
we know it wasn't the left. Oh how about Craig

(01:04:52):
pot James Woods, the actor, Maga nutcase. It's not gun violence,
it's democrat violence. Getting tweeted it, dear leftist, we can
have a conversation or a civil war. One more shot
from your side and you will not get this choice again.

(01:05:12):
Then James Woods post it something placing the blame of
Charlie Kirk being killed at the feet of Democrats.

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
Let me ask you tonight, do you think Donald Trump
is a fascist?

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (01:05:35):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
This is what ticking the shit out of fascism looks like.

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Try to prevent the spread of the lawlessness and the
fascist chaos that's been unleashed against us.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
So when we say Donald Trump is a fascist. Fascism.

Speaker 6 (01:05:51):
A huge component of fascism is uniting racism, bigotry, a
form of racist now nationalism.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
This is we are now living in a fascist dictatorship country.
We are worried about potential rise of fascism in this country.

Speaker 10 (01:06:07):
We're worried about our democracy falling to an authoritarian and
potentially fascist form of government, not.

Speaker 22 (01:06:13):
Only to roll over to Donald Trump's will, but to
roll over our democracy and allow him to take over
this country as a fascist dictator.

Speaker 15 (01:06:24):
When fascism isn't just coming, it's already here.

Speaker 24 (01:06:27):
The former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark
Milly said, no one has ever been more dangerous to
this country than Donald Trump, and he is a fascist
to his core.

Speaker 25 (01:06:43):
But all those were lies. All of these are lies.
And now they are now scurry. They're scurry.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
They're literally on social media deleting post, They're changing their tone.
They were calling for people to be fired. Two sources
say that Pete Hegseth has been saying find any member
of the military who tweeted anything negative about Charlie Kirk
so they can be punished. You got crazy, as Louisiana

(01:07:18):
congressman play Higgins talking about that's right. We will cancel anybody.
We're going after anybody who say anything negative about Charlie Kirk.
But they're now trying to figure out, Oh I love
the latest. He was radicalized when he went to college.

(01:07:39):
He was there for one semester. These people are nuts
and what they did was it was a total rush
to judgment from the moment it happens. And what did
I tell y'all, chill out, allow this to progress. Let's

(01:08:01):
find the truth. No, everybody Time magazine political violence. They
all going now we know it was one of their
own HBCUs getting bomb threats. We had to do this.
White dude at a white college in a white state

(01:08:22):
gets shot by a white guy that's white on white violets.
They were calling for civil war. Jesse Waters was farming
at the mouth. We're going to take these people now.
It's matter of fact. Control room. I need y'all right now,

(01:08:46):
pup the New York Post website. I want to show
y'all how white control, how white people, white conservatives, how
they what they do when somebody white, one of their own,
does something. Oh, y'all gonna love this here, this right
now is on the front page of the New York Post.

(01:09:08):
Y'all gonna love this losing losing faith. They got a
photo of Tyler smiling, a photo of him smiling with
his mom and dad and his two brothers. Tyler Robinson
was raised Mormon and allegedly killed Charlie Kirk moments after

(01:09:32):
influencer praised the church. Now y'all know, damn well if
this is the same New York Post men. If y'all
throw down, they will have. If somebody black kills somebody,
oh my god, they are gonna have all kind of
crazy stuff. Matter fact gone down. Y'all gonna see an

(01:09:58):
article Cole got it. Maniac who cops say killed burned
elderly New York City couple inside their own home makes
chilling admission. I hope y'all see. Do y'all see the
Suta position? Y'all see this photo of the black guy

(01:10:20):
who killed They who allegedly killed a white couple. Maniac
who cops say killed burned elderly New York City couple
inside their own home, makes chilling admission. Hmm. But the
murderous white guy, oh, oh my god, he lost his

(01:10:48):
losing faith. He he lost his faith This shows you
how shameful and despicable these people are. Candace, I mean
to watch this now. It's Charlie would have prayed with him. Oh,

(01:11:12):
he would have. He would have held his hand, if
only they could have prayed together. They were foaming at
the mouth twenty four hours ago. But now all of
a sudden, Candice, one of their own again, daddy sheriff,
Oh gun lover daddy mama is scrubbing her Facebook page.

(01:11:37):
Got photos on the Facebook page of them holding guns
and all kinds of stuff. So we got a gun loving,
maga Trump supporting white boy from a Donald Trump maga
gun loving family that killed a Donald Trump maga gun

(01:11:59):
loving white guy in Charlie Kirk. That's white on white crime.

Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
And don't forget his mother said that he was the
ideal model student.

Speaker 6 (01:12:10):
And you know, when I look at this and I
think about what went on years ago, because the authorities
in Utah said that they received seven thousand tips.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
They hadn't received this many tips since the.

Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
Boston marathon bombing, and what happened with that bombing, the
same thing that you're talking about. They put two people
on the front of the newspaper and then they had
to pay millions of dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
I think it was the Daily News or the posts
had to pay millions of.

Speaker 6 (01:12:37):
Dollars because they got it wrong because of the way
that they portrayed them, the same way that they're portraying
this young man now as if nothing is wrong. And
that is what is the matter with journalism today. I
think all of this is wrapped up in journalism. All
of it's wrapped up in the media. How we actually.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
Portrayed the people who did.

Speaker 7 (01:12:58):
What they did.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Try to find some truth in it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:01):
But people like us on the other side, it is
very difficult to discern because everybody is out there giving
their opinions.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
We have to be smarter.

Speaker 6 (01:13:09):
Consumers know that a lot of people who are out
there who are posting or are saying things, they're doing
this for just pure entertainment. What that woman said about
the transgender and and stuff that was written on the bullets,
that was all made up. Look at for Winte, is
that the young man that you showed a bite. He's
been kicked off several social media platforms because of hate speech,

(01:13:32):
but now.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
He's talking about Jesus on the cross. Roland.

Speaker 6 (01:13:35):
I'm sorry, I just cannot even take some of these
people seriously because I think in their harder parts, in
terms of what they posted and all that you've gone through,
they don't take themselves seriously. They're they're really kind of
like acting to me. I mean, that's what I see.
They're putting on a performance in order to eventually get
what they want, which is vote to keep people in

(01:13:59):
the middle of chaos and to continue to divide people.
That is what is going on now, That's what we
see playing out in the media. And actually this is
what we've always seen. Nothing new, nothing has changed. It's
just that now we have a digital record of everything
that we've thought and everything that you know, we think
is happening, and we now have to go to correct ourselves.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
But this has been happening for decades, nothing new.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Yeah, And what's crazy here, Michael, all of these now,
all these media people are getting exposed because what they've
been doing is oh my god, lionizing Charlie Kirk, how again,
Christian Father. Fox News is planning a primetime special all
this sort of stuff. And in fact check this out.

(01:14:49):
So NBC, remember they fired Matthew Dowd, the commentator, and
I'm I'm gonna tell you what he said in the second,
but NBC, the leadership of NBC, and we're talking Brian Roberts,
Mike Cavanaugh, and Mark Lazarus. This is what they sent

(01:15:11):
to all of the employees at Comcasts, NBC Universal. This
is the entire company. The tragic loss of Charlie Kirk,
a thirty one year old father, husband, an advocate for
open debate whose faith was important to him, reminds us

(01:15:32):
of the fragility of life and the urgent need for
unity in our nation. Our hearts are heavy as his
passing leaves a grieving family and a country grappling with division.
There's no place for violence or hate in our society.
You may have seen that MSNBC recently in it its
association with a contributor who made an unacceptable and insensitive

(01:15:55):
comment about this horrific event. That coverage was at odds
with fostering civil dialogue and being willing to listen to
the points of view of those who have differing opinions.
We should be able to disagree robustly and passionately, but
ultimately with respect. We need to do better. Charlie Kirk

(01:16:18):
believed that when people stop talking really bad stuff starts
regardless of whether you agree with political views. His words
and actions underscore the urgency to maintain a respectful exchange
of ideas a principle we must champion. We believe in

(01:16:39):
the power of communication to bring us together. Today that
belief feels more vital than ever. Something essential has fractured
in our public discourse, and as a company that values
the power of information, we have a responsibility to help
mend it. As employees, we ask you to embody our

(01:17:00):
values in your work. In communities, we should engage with respect, listen,
and treat people with kindness. Michael, I'm sorry, did Brian Roberts,
Mike Cavanaugh, or Mike Lazarus hear or read any of

(01:17:22):
the things that Charlie Kirk said about black women, about black.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Guy I was about to go here about doctor Martin.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Luther King Junior. I mean, I mean that's what they said,
respect and treat people with kindness. We have been seeing
last forty eight hours a lot of folks post a
lot of those comments. So imagine if you are a
black Latino Asian American woman working for NBC Comcast Universal,

(01:17:58):
how you would feel when the leadership ends that out
and then talking about him. His faith was important to him,
but clearly the stuff he said about people look like
us clearly didn't matter to these NBC comcast executives.

Speaker 10 (01:18:21):
Yeah, you know NBC comcasts, and I know MSNBC has
spun off from NBC, but you still have the same
mentality running MSNBC with Rebecca Cutler who fired.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
No no no no no no no no no no no.
Keep in mind, keep keep in mind, no no, no,
hold up, hold up, Michael, keep in mind Mark Lazarus,
who's running that other company. He was on this email,
So go ahead that he was one of the Mark
Lazarus is on the email.

Speaker 25 (01:18:51):
Right.

Speaker 10 (01:18:52):
But okay, So I was on carl Nelson Show yesterday
w l out of Baltimore talking about this.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
And when you read some of.

Speaker 10 (01:19:01):
Charlie Kirk's comments about intelligent, educated, accomplished black women, and
let's be clear, the people college dropouts like Charlie Kirk
are intimidated by intelligent, educated African Americans, especially African American women.
He said that you do not have the brain processing

(01:19:21):
power to otherwise be taken really seriously. He said, you
had to go still a white person's slot to be
taken somewhat seriously. He's talking about them being beneficiaries of
affirmative action, but he doesn't want to talk about the
racism that caused the firmative action to have to be
created in the first place.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
This whole thing, which you just showed from the New
York Post.

Speaker 10 (01:19:42):
I think that was the New York Post you was
showing those headlines from that reminds me of an article
from Huffington Post from twenty fourteen called when the media
treats white suspects and killers better than Black victims.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
And what this whole thing, what this whole article does
is is shows.

Speaker 10 (01:20:00):
How when a white person goes and kills somebody or
as a mass murderer, the media goes out of their
way to show how it's so much out of their character.
We're so surprised he was a good engineer, things like this.
But when it's a when it's an African American who
is the victim of violence, they make it seem like
they brought it on themselves. They go all back into

(01:20:21):
their history, you know, and they had a drug problem
in things of this nature. So that's that's what that's showing.
But this is, you know, This is MAGA being exposed
for what they are. Okay, and this is also this
ain't Christianity. This is white Christian nationalism. Let's be very clear.
You know this Roland, this is white Christian nationalism. They
have no they have no sympathy for African Americans, they

(01:20:43):
have no sympathy for immigrants, things of this nature. And
then when I saw lastly, when I saw Governor Cox
say he was hoping it was not one of us.
He was hoping possibly with somebody from another country. Now
I know he has been working even before this to
bring down the tone of political.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Rhetoric, and he's been working with the governor of Colorado.

Speaker 10 (01:21:04):
But some people made mistaken that for saying, oh, you
were hoping this was an immigrant who did this shooting?
Because if it was, what would happen then? How would
this explode? How would this explode? How would this be
used if it was an immigrant who did this?

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
I mean, Matt, That's what's so crazy. They literally are disappointed.
They I can't believe it was one of us. They
are shocked, they are desponded that a Mormon, a mega
republican gun loving Mormon, would shoot Charlie Kirk that they're

(01:21:53):
just like we just we can't believe this. We can't.
And I love if people talk about Charlie. Charlie would
have told him about Jesus. Nancy mays he's Mormon and
he got Sharlotte hate at the largest university in Utah,

(01:22:16):
which is run by Mormons.

Speaker 9 (01:22:21):
Look, hate is the heuristic.

Speaker 8 (01:22:23):
And what's so interesting about this is what you highlighted
in talking about Laura Lumer and Nick Flintis and even
Nancy Mace is this is political violence. Because what this
is is you have a person who assassinated him because
he didn't think he was conservative enough. And that's what
I think is one of the lost parts of this

(01:22:44):
conversation is there's not a discussion of the fact that
if you foment hate and you blame the other side
for all the ills. I mean, not only do you
have the historical backdrop of exactly what happened in Nazi
Germany and other places around the world where somebody was
scapegoaded and then it turned into you know, mass genocide,
right or mass casualty, But what you have here is

(01:23:07):
you have people who are basically on the same side,
if you will, who are so enraged by hate and
so invigorated by the hate that they're killing each other
because they think the other person is not the embodiment
of who they say they are. I mean, when you
started with those tweets about Laura Lumer, it's exactly what
she was saying about Charlie Kirk, that he wasn't truly.

Speaker 9 (01:23:28):
Who he said he was.

Speaker 8 (01:23:30):
And that's what makes this particularly problematic and also interesting
to an extent because they jumped immediately to it's the
leftist right.

Speaker 9 (01:23:39):
That's what we that's the bell we ring every time.

Speaker 8 (01:23:42):
We want to galvanize this base, and we want to
foment people saying, Hey, your country's being stolen from you.
Your whiteness affords you a greater life than what you
have now, and that black guy down the street is
the one who's stolen it from you, right, So they're.

Speaker 9 (01:23:57):
Already kind of in that little cesspool.

Speaker 8 (01:24:00):
And what happens here when you have Charlie Kirk, who
is being lionized despite saying some abhorrent things during the
course of his time on Earth, what you have is
people who are trying to out conservative each other. That's
exactly what happened here. And you're never gonna see that
angle of the conversation because it doesn't meet the narrative.
The narrative is it's the left that's doing it. The

(01:24:21):
narrative is it's you know, Nancy Mayce talking about transgender
people and these other things where there's no evidence whatsoever
for that is because that's the tone they strike every time.
It's always the other, that is the you know, the
group that is to whom the ills should be attributed,
the reason for the ills.

Speaker 9 (01:24:40):
So that's what I see here.

Speaker 8 (01:24:41):
This is political violence, but it's political violence on the
same side of the aisle from people who are trying
to out conservative each other.

Speaker 9 (01:24:48):
And his life was taken because this young man didn't
think he was conservative enough.

Speaker 8 (01:24:53):
And that is the part of the conversation we're not
hearing because it's not about the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Yes, I haven't saw that now the whold up. I
saw that earlier. I have not seen that confirmed. I
saw someone posting that, I saw that being bandied about.
We have not seen that confirmed. So we do know
that this this groyper community Canna. I don't know if
you've been looking up these folks. People can explain to

(01:25:20):
the people, but these are this is the Nick Finn
Test group. This is the the far far, far far.
I mean Charlie Kirk was already far right. These people
were right of him. They I mean that Flint test
and acknowledge racist and acknowledge anti semi. I mean he

(01:25:41):
is a virulent racist, has a huge following. They felt
Charlie Kirk was a fraud.

Speaker 6 (01:25:52):
Is right and that when we're talking about conservatives, I
like what Matt Matt said, conservatives trying to out conservative
the next person.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Because these what are they grow fights? You said, these
are the ones who think that.

Speaker 6 (01:26:07):
The whole white race is being displaced for the worst
of human mankind and that they're their only group that
should actually exist and lead the world.

Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
That's basically what they believe.

Speaker 6 (01:26:20):
So they're really kind of smashing the belief system and
values of every other race on the planet besides white people.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
So if you think about anything within that spectrum, that's
what they believe.

Speaker 6 (01:26:32):
So that really is you know, kind of out out
conservating the conservatives that are out there.

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
But you know, it reminds me of something.

Speaker 6 (01:26:40):
You know, people really don't understand that when they get online,
they bait people to do things, and you have people
who get online for one reason. And I'm not necessarily
talking about Charlie Kirk. It could be anybody, anybody that
you've played tonight, get online to get the attention that
they want. And you got other people on the other

(01:27:01):
side try to out attention you to get your attention.
And this is the ultimate way that Tyler Robinson got attention.
He said, you know what, I'm going offline and I'm
going to do something in real time. And now he's
getting the most attention. And that's exactly what he wanted.
He wanted all of us to be talking about him

(01:27:22):
right now. He said, I'm going to outdo all of you.
I'm going to turn over the menu. You know, I
was watching that Charlie Sheen documentary and he was talking
about how he went from women to men because he
took crack, and he said he turned over the menu
to men. He was like, anything else, That's how I
feel about this young man.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
He was like, what can I do?

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
Is there anything else I can do to our conservative
the conservatives that are out there? And actually he did it.

Speaker 6 (01:27:47):
And I wouldn't be surprised if he's sitting somewhere in
that jail cell and he's saying I did it like
exactly what I wanted.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
Everyone's talking about me. I reached my goal and anything
that you're doing on social media or route right now,
I'm just out there.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Yeah. It's just just crazy. I mean just watching these people.
I mean, they literally are losing it. And if y'all
have so, that idiot Dinesh decus a felon. So he
just said, like this is their new thing. So now

(01:28:26):
now here's their new thing, y'all. Tyler Robinson is every
conservative parents worst nightmare. Send your kid to college where
he is radicalized into a violent anti fascist by the
sly scheming leftist professors. We need to put radical academia

(01:28:47):
on trial along with its cherished product. Tyler Robinson, y'all,
the boy went to that university for one semester and
then let me find it. Then apparently he was studying engineering.
He was so apprenticed something some technical school.

Speaker 6 (01:29:10):
Like.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
These people are insane, They really are, Matt insane that
they are grasping at anything what they cannot fathom. And
the reason they can't deal with this, Matt is because
they don't even want to acknowledge those white domestic terrorists.
On January sixth, they refuse to acknowledge that there are nutcases,

(01:29:37):
there are people who are violent on the right and
in their minds, that idiot Eric Trump was on social
did some interview going, no bullets are coming from us,
only the other side. Boy, put put the drugs down, Matt.

Speaker 9 (01:30:00):
I mean that's because the truth doesn't matter. It doesn't
matter at all.

Speaker 8 (01:30:04):
All that matters is the sound bite. And I think
Candice was getting right at that, as she always does.
And you know, it's about wanting to get the vote,
wanting to get that further cadre of people who are
hanging on your every word every time you post a
YouTube video.

Speaker 9 (01:30:18):
It's not about the truth.

Speaker 8 (01:30:20):
And none of these people have to ever be accountable
because nobody ever calls them out. Now, what's interesting, back
to my point earlier, is the cannibalism you're seeing right
now where they're eating each other because they're.

Speaker 9 (01:30:31):
Trying to out conservative the other person.

Speaker 8 (01:30:33):
And I'm no true political philosopher, but it stands the
reason that a true conservative would be against fascism, right,
would be against any government that is so large and
so authoritarian that it's trampling on the rights of the individual,
especially if he becomes an enormous government. But the point
is Denis de Susan's not talking about that. He's just

(01:30:53):
hitting the talking points, because all this is about is
hitting the same tone every time the leftist, those other people,
those people who don't deserve the life you want, have
the life you want because they've stolen it from you.

Speaker 9 (01:31:06):
And the more you say that, the more you strike
that tone. And it doesn't matter if there's any truth
to it.

Speaker 8 (01:31:11):
All that matters is how you make people feel, and
that's fomenting anger in them because they're unhappy with their
own lives and they want to outsource the reason for that, right,
not looking at themselves, but saying it's somebody down the road.
It's that guy's fault, and because it's his fault, he's
gonna be the one that I point to finger.

Speaker 9 (01:31:28):
And that's all this comes down to. It isn't about
the truth at all.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
In fact, Michael, you know, we on the same day
Charlie Kirkt was shot. That was a shooting at a
Colorado school. Three people were shot, and Different Post is
now reporting that it was a rabbit, anti Semite and
white supremacist who really adored the Columbine shooters, and his

(01:31:54):
name was Desmond Holly. His social media accounts were littered
with references to mass shootings and anti Semitic views. The
Sheriff's Office spokesman, spokeswoman Jackie Kelly, said Holly was radicalized
through an extremist network, and in a photo post of
the TikTok, Holly was seen in a black T shirt
with the word wrath inblazoned in red, a reference to

(01:32:16):
the shirt that Columbine shooter Dylan cleebow World War His
his accounts a litter with Holocaust denialism, which of course
is pushed by folks like Nick Fuentes. One to recent
account appears to have been in reference to a prominent
white supremacist slogan. According to the Denver Post, his accounts
included additional anti Semitic videos, as well as videos loving

(01:32:40):
Nazi uniforms, and on and on and on. That's the
other shooting that happened that day, A craze, deranged white
boy on the right. For all these folks who keep
talking about black on black crime, and that's all Charlie
Kirk's last year, twenty four hours of his Twitter feed
was all about that whole deal. I mean, these people
are going on and on and on and here they

(01:33:02):
are here, they are like, we have mass shooting, a
mass shooting on the same they Kirk got shot. Two
white boys, heterosexual, not transgender.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
Yeah, where's Nancy Mayce?

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
Yeah, you know Roland? Uh yeah, so this is this
is really deep.

Speaker 7 (01:33:27):
Now.

Speaker 10 (01:33:27):
First, first of all, after the shooting in Utah, is
Donald Trump going to send the National Guard into Utah
cut down to deal with the crime problem, to deal
with the murders. I'm just curious, But we have to
understand these are these people are grifters, Nancy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
Mays, Nick for Wintez, all of them. These are grifters, Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:33:50):
And when you look at the nest de Suzon, the
social media posts from him trying to blame a college
for radicalized Tyler Robinson. Now, he went for one semester
in twenty twenty one pre engineering major. But remember back
in twenty sixteen what Donald Trump said he loves the uneducated.

(01:34:12):
The reason why they love the uneducated is because they
can continue to manipulate them, and they can continue to
point to other people and say that's the problem, that's
why your medicaid is being taken. Oh, we're trying to
we're trying to get rid of the undocumented immigrants on Medicaid.
So we're going to kick these people off. That's why
you're losing your job. Okay, this is what they're doing.

(01:34:34):
And you mentioned January six because I was gonna mention
this the first time around. You know, when was all
the praying and talking about love and Jesus and forgiveness
on January sixth, I ain't seeing any of that when
they were attacking police officers and assult at over one
hundred and forty police officers. They a lot of these
people at like January sixth did not take place at

(01:34:55):
like that wasn't political violence. You know, they say the
political violence is coming from the left. We ain't never
done anything like that. Attack the US capital, turn overthrow
the government.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
These people are crazy. These people are crazy, and they're.

Speaker 10 (01:35:13):
Going to continue to fight one another, and African Americans
need to step back and let them fight each other.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
All I'm saying, y'all, more details we're gonna come out
about Tyler Robinson, and it's not gonna be good for
the right wing. It's not gonna be good for them
at all. And you know what, y'all can't blame black people.
Y'all can't blame the left. Y'all can't blame trans y'all
can't blame feminist. Y'all can't blame y'all can't believe. You're

(01:35:49):
gonna have to get that big ass mirror and look
at yourselves and look at again. Let me remind people
they're calling this guy a groyper. That's Nick fo Wintess's group.
This is the same Nick full Intess who Kanye West
took to eat a meal with Donald Trump at mar Larco.

(01:36:15):
These people are eating their own and they're losing it
because they can't blame it on the left because there's
nothing about Tyler Robinson that yells Democrat, progressive, and now
they're trying to spend it. He was radicalized in college. Note,

(01:36:37):
bad dog just ain't gonna hunt. Let me thank my
panel Candice Matt Michael for being on today's show. Thank
you so very much, folks. I'm gonna go to a break,
we come back. Man chat with Rowland Parish, Black McDonald's
operator as well as the philanthropist here in Dallas, Hello.
Celebrity golf tournament today talked about black business and giving back.

(01:37:00):
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(01:38:45):
I'm here in Dallas, where Roland Parish, who has been
a longtime black McDonald's owner operator, held his annual golf
tournament benefitting his parish family foundation charity UH supporting a
lot of local efforts here in Dallas. We talked about that,
talked about the importance of being a black business. Only

(01:39:06):
here's our conversation. All right, folks, I'm here in Dallas
for the old Paris Liberty Golf Tournament. That's why I'm
hanging here. And this demand himself. First of all, great name,
great outstanding, our standing name, that's riding name. And first
of all for the folks, we'll get to the foundation.

(01:39:27):
But we're playing, So tell everybody where we're playing.

Speaker 5 (01:39:30):
We're playing at the Golf Club of Dallas. This used
to be deep placed in like last century, thirties, forties,
fifty sixties. This is where the PGA played. This is
where the PGA. This was the number one club in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
Okay, but let's be real clear they played here. We
couldn't play here, right And in fact, coma contrel founder
pro Line always told the famous story.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
He told me this.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
So he bought a house here right off the course,
and they came to him to let him know that
wasn't no black people allowed. But that was a brother
who worked at the course who made some great barbecue.
So if he wanted some great barbecue, he could get
with his brother to get some barbecue. And Comba was like,

(01:40:14):
I don't give a damn by playing golf with y'allme uh.
And so he always told that story and so so
now for to know that story and to know the history,
and to now know that this course is black owned,
that says something.

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
Hey, he says a lot. And just to let you know,
I read my history on Coma Coatrel, a man who
started I think he was a teenager. He started selling
chickens or something. He was in California. How he came
to Dallas, became a part owner of the Texas Strangers.

Speaker 13 (01:40:40):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:40:40):
In addition to his I figure he was one of
the aproshine prochine proline.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
He was he was, he was pro lized. I'm not
found of pro line. So all y'all, brother Jerry Curl,
that was coma contrel and a huge letton. He was
the one responsible for moving Bishop College from away Clow
to Dallas. Correct and so again, so it was it's
interesting when they told me about the tournament about you
guys buying. It was bought purchas week two.

Speaker 5 (01:41:07):
Three years ago by cassel TONI Evans, formerly of Oakland
Fible Fellowship, Black owned, and so we wanted to keep
it in the community. Infects in the Royce West has
told me last year, he said, you keep it in
the community.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
You know, we keep it real.

Speaker 5 (01:41:21):
We sell out. We could probably go somewhere else and
get more cars, but hey, look at it's beautiful. It's
beautiful black owned. And I'm pro black business. I mean,
I'm just pro black business man. I mean, can I
throw this that out? Yeah, it's my show.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
I ain't got to ask nobody.

Speaker 5 (01:41:37):
So one hundred dollars one thousand dollars spend in the
black community, excuse me, spent in the Anglo community will
last about sixteen days, in the Jewish community, about nineteen
days in the Asian community, thirty days. One hundred dollars
or one thousand dollars spent retail in the black community

(01:41:57):
with six hours six hours. Maggie Anderson's book I'm Black here,
That's where I got the stat from. And so we've
got to build black business. I mean, that's how we're
going to get equity and equality and enjoyed the American drink.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
But we also talk about healing black business. What I
am always talking about is we have to build black
business capacity. You know, when they were two point nine
million black owned businesses, this is pre COVID two point
eight million had one employee doing an average revenue les
than one hundred thousand dollars correct. And I said, look,
that's soap of artist, I said, And so the thing

(01:42:30):
I'm almost talking about it is capassion, and I'll do
that for you. When did you first start?

Speaker 5 (01:42:37):
And started in nineteen eighty nine? In fact, Roland I
opened on June teenth, nineteen eighty nine, and I was
so busy, But I mean not because we were doing
such big business. You know, you open up a business,
you know they're calling you from everywhere, rolling this, rolling that,
rolling this. I didn't even realize it was June teen.
And I started the Locos some years later, and I
put at the bottom opened June teen, nineteen eighty and

(01:43:00):
I think that was oden. I think I was sent
to the hoods. If people know about Pleasant Grove, if
you're what was got sterreal it was the McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
That was the first one.

Speaker 5 (01:43:07):
First one, and it was in a black neighborhood, but
it was kind of neighborhood I grew up on named
Gary and ham an Idianma, and so I fit in
with the people. I always say, I learned the preachers,
the principals, the teachers, the gang leaders, the drug the
drug dealers, and I was respected because I was trying
to do things in the community. I brought Ronald McDonald

(01:43:29):
to the hood, to the schools, to the schools, and
my customers would come in and say thank you, because
the kids came in and said, we saw Ronnal McDonald
did that? What we saw ron McDonald he came to
your school. Yeah, wow, mister McDonald's did it. I was
mister McDonald. I was mister McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
But so and so you started that first one in
the June nineteen nineteen eighty nine and go on to
have you hit what twenty seven?

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
I peacked that twenty seven right. And the thing is,
I just talked to a young guy here. He just
bought two restaurants. He just got a McDonald's system. And
I told them, hey, one living if your means be
good to your people.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
Your people are your greatest asset.

Speaker 5 (01:44:07):
Developing an incentive program for them and get back to
the community. You just can't take out of the community.
You got to put something back in the community. And
the verse. I used the pillar of my organization, both
the business and the charities who trust for you to
who much is given, much is required.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
And you've had a peck of I mean, how many
employees under you?

Speaker 5 (01:44:26):
Fourteen hundred that max, That's a whole lot.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
And one of the things that that I'm always you
said to them, that's important that you said, live below
your means. And what I'm always trying to explain to
people is I'm not interested in flow city. I'm not
interested in the flashing, I said, because the goal is
not to have a business for two, three, four or
five years, but to have longevity. Because if business go

(01:44:53):
out of business, that's employee is that's that's family that
people can't send their kids to college. And so my
whole deal, Liz, it's like we had a discussion about Uncle.
The areas that coming to Bickie called him. I said, listen,
I said, first rule washed the money. Second rule watched
the person who watched the money. Okay, I said, that's
my first rule.

Speaker 7 (01:45:12):
And I just tell people, I said, I said, I
don't give a.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
Damn by the biggest car, the biggest house, whatever. I say, this, really,
what are you building? You're building something that's people were in.

Speaker 5 (01:45:23):
Yeah, when you went to that quarter, it reminds me
of a book Succeeding Against Odds by James Statson. And
when he started his first business, which is his Negro Digest,
the bookkeeper's office was next to his office. And then
when he moved to Michigan Avenue. You know Evony Jet
big time on Michigan Avenue in Chicago. She was not
a treasurer, but her office was next to his right.

(01:45:45):
When I worked for Exund Corporation eight hundred Bell Avenue
at the US headquarters, the executives won the forty second floor.
The treasury department was on the forty first floor. So
what I do is every morning ever since opening eighteen
eighty nine. It first started with the phone to get
the balance right, and then it moved to the ATM
the riot of the balance right, and now it's with

(01:46:07):
the computer right because I check my balances, not because
I love money.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
Right, but you got to manage the money so listen,
I have with my back so out. There are five accounts,
one personal, for business. I don't even look at personal.
I'm out they bills, I don't even look. But I
know exactly what's in those other ford and I'm just
like you every day. Hold up, what's that deal? Oh god,

(01:46:31):
I see what was paid? I mean, I don't play that.
And I tell people, I said, look, I've walked the
expenses like a hog. And just like my bookkeeper, they
send me. I said, listen, y'all can send me all
these spreadsheets and explain to me how it work. I said,
I believe in inflow, outflow, how much we spend it
every month. I got to know how much I gotta
make every month. I keep it real simple, hey man.

Speaker 5 (01:46:55):
That's and that's another thing that it's about simple because
it's probably like already line items or the prop in
law statement. And two that I really tell out people
to manage the most because they're over sixty percent of
your expenses is a fool and labor, your food costs,
costs and your labor. And I said, if we'll manage those,
we'll be okay. You know, get a chuch you customers, right,

(01:47:17):
it's a lot of rules of the business, but I
don't want to make it complicated where we were going
into depth into all fifty line outs. It's like, hey,
these are the two major let's make sure we can
work through it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
And obviously that's the business side of what you're doing,
but what you're what you're doing on the community side
is critically important as well. To talk about this this
foundation and how you really are about collecting with the
community the schools, talk about the track of the school
that you're also supported. We beginning the program today.

Speaker 14 (01:47:46):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:47:46):
The first thing I could ever shout out to doctor
Harry Robinson. He was the founder of the Dallas after
the Community and I remember he came to me the
Black Sports Hall of Fame where they recognize sports figures
who either grew up in Texas, warn in Texas or
played in and it was either free to a PEPSI
pulled away at the last minute. This is a fortune
five hundred company, right the sponsorship for the actual inductees.

(01:48:08):
They pulled and he came to me rolling. I said that,
I mean, that's Romson, I said, I'm I think I
had maybe like eight restaurants, I said, I can't afford that.
He gave me a layway plan. He gave me a
lagway plan. So I've been doing that now for like
fifteen years. That was my first time I branched outside
of Pleasant Glow.

Speaker 1 (01:48:26):
He said, do something, but you can just pay on yeah, pay.

Speaker 5 (01:48:30):
So if any of you out there remember h lay Away,
that's what he did. Like and so that really started,
like moving outside of Pleasant Grove and then things will
follow my left something really relevant, something like Chicia richardson
Olympic Star Sprinter. She track is heavy, right, summer track

(01:48:55):
is heavy in Dallas. But you see the kids on
the corner with the cups by the stoplights. Collected money
so they could send people to the National championships. And
I just said, hey, guys, pick ten teams from the
Southern sector. Let me give them five thousand dollars apiece.
That's fifty thousand. We ended up having a track meet
and having a lot of fun. But we did that

(01:49:16):
Chris Boss story. Chris Bosh played with lebron So Chris
Bosh and Lincoln won the National championship. Somewhere around two
thousand and two, I get a phone call down at
Pleasant Grove, missus bosh is mine, can we have a
car wich? I was like, missus Boss, if you were
up in North Dallas, oh, you would not have to

(01:49:36):
have a car watch. So what we did was basically
I got ten five businessmen to give two thousand apiece
and we got the team to sign basketballs. Now they've
got basketballs with Chris Boss's name, she's one of the
team members. And so five basketballs two thousand piece and
it rings only cost ten thousand dollars. And so you

(01:49:58):
can think of a.

Speaker 1 (01:49:59):
Way watch to get them championship rings.

Speaker 5 (01:50:01):
That's what's fitting, right, But instead of doing the car
wash right, it's like you and your your mom's right,
don't have to come out in rast cars. Give us
ten basketballs and signatures. We'll give you ten thousand dollars.
And we did it to right grade. And so they
got say, but see, this.

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
Is the point that I explain that people food who
really don't understand when I hear people that they talk about,
you know, oh, d nine la, we don't know what
y'all doing. I'm like, oh, y'all have no idea how
many people are supporting community based organizations every sudday and
talk about black owned businesses doing those very things. And

(01:50:39):
you're right, it's not major corporations. Major corporations are not
corporations are not cutting those checks. And so our community,
the back of our community has been these small, mid
sized business owners doing those very things. That and then
that and then that of course is paying it for
for that next generation.

Speaker 5 (01:50:57):
Right, you're correct, and really small business are the backbone
of our society. You know, even if when you move
away from black business and then black businesses, there's a
stat something like two thirds of all businesses, small businesses
fail in the first year, and then another half failed
in the first five years. So I'm very appreciative to God.
Of course, with blue collar work, ethic, luck, good parents,

(01:51:18):
good jeans. Knowing the financial part of the business, I've
been able to flourish. And with that Malachai Old Testament
three ten, it's like I want to give back. I'm
gonna make sure we take care of orphans. The window
widows to underserve and he says he'll pour you out
of blessing that you won't have a home to receive.
And Roland, I got to tell you, man, there's been
some awards and blessings that are shouting on me and

(01:51:40):
I know it's Malachi three ten. I know it's Malachi
three teen. So we're going to keep on doing it
well doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
And so if there are people is the Parents' Family Foundation.
But there's somebody out there that want to support the
foundation work, where do they go?

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:51:55):
And you know what, I'll give this if you want,
if you really feel so moved, you could go to
our website, uh, Parish Family Foundation. It's actually Parish Foundation
dot RG. It's really a fun website to look at
and my son manages it and it's it's it's a
fun it's a fun website. We got some fool stuff
on there, but we really don't have where you can
send money. And if you see I see.

Speaker 4 (01:52:16):
Y'all see he's so kind.

Speaker 1 (01:52:18):
Well again, you never know who out there, somebody who's like, man,
I love what y'all doing. How can I support?

Speaker 5 (01:52:24):
Okay, I would say at least an email on that road.
I think we finally put an email on goo.

Speaker 1 (01:52:29):
Okay, y'all. So if y'all to some of y'all may want,
somebody may want to say, man.

Speaker 5 (01:52:33):
I love work they're doing, go to Parish Parish Parish
Parish Foundation dot org.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
Fundation dot org. Ain't no donate button, but find the
email and then you can send the email. But at
least put a donate button on there.

Speaker 5 (01:52:48):
Because you never know, right right, Yeah, we're gonna do that.
We're gonna do that. I appreciate it, and I always
want to say this on there. I've tried to give
mister Marty, you know, like Mike and My when you
said to Mike and my show rolling and Rolling, Rolling Roy.
So so whatever he has for website, send it in
and say you should have the Rolling and Rolling show.
We could do sports, we could do history, whatever you

(01:53:09):
want to talk about. Rolling and roll. You could be
you could be the first roller.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
You gotta understand, you understand I own it, so I
ain't got to ask thy have to ask.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
You anybody it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:53:17):
So so when do I show up, I show up.

Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
Right, see, all right, when you get a phone call,
you better be ready to see Mike and.

Speaker 5 (01:53:24):
Mike has nothing on us rolling and Rolling, Rolling, And
when he getting the call, he gonna be like, oh, yeah,
you weren't joking.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
High Okay, I'm gonna let you know, all.

Speaker 5 (01:53:32):
Right, all right, Okay, So.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
I appreciate it that thank you very much, preciate it.
Keep doing what you do, all right?

Speaker 5 (01:53:36):
Okay, saved by.

Speaker 8 (01:53:39):
Which very.

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
All right, folks. Now, the golf turner was being host
shit coached by My girl radio show host Lady Jade.
Now she recently started playing golf. At anytime she posts
uh one of her golf videos on Instagram, she'll get
a text from me with a critique.

Speaker 5 (01:53:59):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:54:00):
And so you know I had to ask her, but
what's up with her? Sweet? All right, y'all we out
in the golf course. So y'all, this is Jade. Uh
so you uh the queen of getting my my text
messages when you post your swing. So let me just
say you.

Speaker 4 (01:54:19):
Roland is my online golf coach.

Speaker 6 (01:54:22):
I know that each time I'll post anything about golf,
my phone is gonna be like, d see what.

Speaker 5 (01:54:27):
The problem is.

Speaker 4 (01:54:28):
That's what you're gonna tell me. You're gonna see me
about a thousand Amazon links.

Speaker 1 (01:54:31):
You need to work on this.

Speaker 9 (01:54:32):
You need to work on this.

Speaker 7 (01:54:34):
So just know when I get good because of that man.

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
Right now, I tell her, I'm like, look, get your grip,
get your stance. Y'all understand, She'll post a video and
I'd be like girl, Come on, now, come on, let's
work on. Let's get this. Get the grip, get the stands.

Speaker 3 (01:54:47):
Got to be cute.

Speaker 4 (01:54:47):
He's like, absolutely right.

Speaker 5 (01:54:49):
But she twict, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
She keep trying to hit that driver. See that's the problem.
See she want to be shot, call a big baller.
And I'm like, Jay, put that damn driver down.

Speaker 4 (01:54:58):
That's that's the one for me, because I feel like, you.

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
Know, let me not even hold give us your stands.
Come on, come on, give us your stands.

Speaker 4 (01:55:05):
Here almost business, I see.

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
I'm gonna tell you se. See right now, y'all getting
all hers standing out stands in tens and fine, weigh
too much tension in her arms, relaxed and relaxed arms.
See weigh too much tension. See right there, See y'all,
this is the context me said. She'll get I'll be
like too much tension. I'm like too much tension, right.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
She nervous?

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
Always some good time at the golf course, and so
uh it was great to see everybody. Of course, I
spent a considered amount of time here in Dallas. Uh
At of course with Telegram kk DA radio news director
warning anchor also maging head of the Dallas Weekly and
so saw Tim Brown out there. Uh, Pro Football Hall
of Famer, Uh it too tall, Jones, Everson Walls, Everson

(01:55:54):
almost hitting to our group. Y'all know, I had to
crack on him, but that was great seeing him. Eugene Lockhard,
former University of Houston star who also played for the Cowboys.
So a lot of people, a lot of Alpha brothers
out there, and so it's great to see everybody out
there raising money for the Parish Family Foundations. Shout out
to Taska med Locke for hooking me up inviting me
to the tournament. So it was absolutely fabulous. So I

(01:56:15):
will not be back in the studio on Monday because
I will be in Rhode Island. My man Jeffrey Osbourne
is having his Celebrity Gold Classic, and y'all know it's
always fun.

Speaker 10 (01:56:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:56:25):
I've come back with some great stuff. You know, it's
gonna be some singing. No, it's gonna be some singing
going on. So I'll be live from Rhode Island Monday
and Tuesday for the Jeffrey Osbourne Celebrity Gold Classic, and folks,
that's it for us. I appreciate all of y'all for
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