Letitia James Indicted, Day 9 Shutdown Stalemate, Dems Press Johnson, Voting Rights at Risk

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Donald Trump got his wish. The US Attorney has indicted
New York State attorne.

Speaker 9 (02:56):
If you're Letitia.

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James will show you her reaction.

Speaker 8 (02:59):
Also, night day the government shut down, we joined my
congress Woman Nibbie Wasserman Schultz talk about Democrats and the
firm in the face of Donald Trump's threads. Also, Natasha Brown,
co founder of Black Lives Matter, says that the Voting
Rights Act could be under massive siege. If the Supreme
Court case goes against African Americans, it's a lot we're

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gonna break down. Including a young black man spoke out
against a gun violence at the Forbes recent summit. He
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Speaker 8 (04:44):
Folks, the night dam of government shut down and Donald
Trump and his MAGA thugs are saying they're not gonna play. Hey,
federal employees even got the I R S agreeing with them.
Let's go to Kinswoman Dimmy watching the shows out of Florida.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
She joins us.

Speaker 8 (04:58):
Right now, congress Woman glad to have on the show.
It's insane to see what is happening now. They're trying
to say, oh, we're not going to pay federal workers
like you've done in the past, who were impacted by
government shut down. This really makes no sense whatsoever.

Speaker 11 (05:16):
Not only does it make no sense, Roland, and congratulations,
it's great to be with you on this platform, and
congratulations on your success. We've talked about this over the years,
and I'm glad to see that you've launched.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
But it's federal law. It not only doesn't make sense,
it's federal.

Speaker 11 (05:32):
Law that Donald Trump signed himself in twenty nineteen to
make sure that federal workers would be guaranteed their back
pay when they're furloughed during a government shutdown. This is
a furlough through no fault of their own. It is
federal law. There's no way that they can do that.
And what he's and what he's trying to do is

(05:52):
just make sure that he and exacts as much pain
as possible to try to intimidate Democrats into backing down
when we have to make sure we stay singularly focused
on canceling the cuts, lowering costs, and saving Americans health care,
and that has to be a part of any end
of government, end of the fiscal year government spending deal.

Speaker 7 (06:19):
Congresswoman Wasserman Sharps, this is Greg Carr on the panelists
here Ronald Martin unfiltered, and we're glad to have you
and continue to.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Fight the good fight.

Speaker 7 (06:28):
We see that today, of course, for the seventh time,
the Senate failed to reopen the government. It seems as
if public opinion is really turning against the Republicans. Now,
what's your sense as you talk to your constituents and
your colleagues on the hill as it relates to, for
lack of a better term, the pr the optics of
this moment, it almost seems like it's turning against them.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Now, what's your sense?

Speaker 11 (06:51):
That's very much my sense as well. I'll tell you
I have the sixth most sign ups in the entire
country for the affordab Care Act, and Florida is the
number one state in sign ups, including Hyaliah, which is
a Republican city in Miami Dade County, which has the most.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Of any city in the country.

Speaker 11 (07:11):
We've got people contacting our office who for example, we
got a call from a Fort Lauderdale father of five
whose family's premiums are going to go up twelve hundred
dollars a month. The astronomical increases. You have the average
couple making eighty two thousand dollars a year in my district,

(07:34):
they would see their premiums rise annually eighteen thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
That's a two hundred and fifty nine percent increase.

Speaker 11 (07:40):
As a breast cancer survivor, I know, if you don't
have your health, you don't have anything. And it is
absolutely critical that not only we deal with the cost
of living driven up by Donald Trump's tariffs and his
refusal to actually address costs like he promised.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Now because of the.

Speaker 11 (07:56):
Big ugly law, they kicked fifteen million people off of Medicaid,
and now they're going to cause millions of people to
have their health care costs get driven up, and they'll
use the emergency room as their primary access point when
they can't afford their healthcare, and that shift costs to
all of us.

Speaker 8 (08:12):
Yes, But Congresswoman, the big thing, here's what jumps out
at me on.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
This whole piece.

Speaker 8 (08:19):
You obviously have the healthcare piece, and what I have
been saying is that one of the things that Democrats
have to also do, uh, they've got to hammer home
that the people who need the Affordable Care Act the
most are the folks.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
In these red states.

Speaker 8 (08:37):
And to me and to me, that means literally that
means literally going to these red states.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 8 (08:44):
I get what's happening in DC, uh, but I think
what has what has been happening, whether it's Ken Martin
at the DNC or others literally going to West Virginia, Ohio, Utah,
South Carolina and saying, y'all are going to get screwed.
You have the worst health outcomes, you have the worst

(09:06):
economic conditions. And so if Republicans will y'all voted forward,
keep this up, y'all are going to get screwed, right.

Speaker 11 (09:14):
And we have been taking it this message on the
road all year long, right to Republican states, doing town
halls in Republican districts because the Republicans won't show up
and do their own town halls Roland. So we've been
doing that to make sure that their constituents understand we're here,
we're we're ready to negotiate. By the way, let's also

(09:36):
talk about that the Republicans left town. The House hasn't
voted since September nineteenth. They canceled votes last week, they
canceled votes this week. They are a wall, and we're
we're at the table ready to negotiate. That's how it's
always been done when we've had government shuts downs in
the past. I've never seen one party just leave the

(09:58):
table and lead people twist in the wind like this
as if they don't care and they think they're going
to be able to ride this out when these premium notices,
these increases are landing in mailboxes right now, so the
pain is only going to get worse, not better.

Speaker 8 (10:19):
I think you couple that the healthcare issue with what's
happening with these farmers who are moony and crying about
soybean and costs and same thing. Listen, Trump said he
was going to impose these tears. These people voted for it,
so they're getting exactly what they voted for. So when
you hear the people say, oh, this is not what

(10:40):
I voted for, are you as confused as I am?

Speaker 11 (10:45):
It is baffling, and his tariff policy is wildly unpopular.
It is actually killing our farmers in rural areas, so
much so that now they're having to talk about passing
relief and for the farmers to help them with the
increased costs and the costs and the price cuts that

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they've been dealing with because of Trump's tariffs. So they
are actually screwing their own red state people. They're hurting
agriculture badly, and now they're having to spend money to
actually make up for that. It is such an upside
down backwards policy that is actually hurting the United States economy,
not helping.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Help me here.

Speaker 8 (11:31):
This this continuing resolution?

Speaker 5 (11:34):
How long is it?

Speaker 3 (11:41):
I think I might have lost Youngland.

Speaker 8 (11:43):
Yes, no, no, no said okay, so what you're voting on?

Speaker 4 (11:49):
How long?

Speaker 8 (11:51):
How long what you're voting on if you vote to
reopen the government. How long is this continued resolution? Is
it several weeks?

Speaker 11 (11:59):
It's it's a seven week resolution that the Republicans say, yeah,
we can, we can just keep the government open and
we'll get to healthcare. You know, we don't have to
do that now. That's a December problem, not a right
now problem. I'll tell you. I had a receptionist in
Cooper City tell me that her annual premiums we're going
to go up thirty two hundred dollars. That is real

(12:21):
money for someone who works as a receptionist. And this
is a right now problem, not a three month from
now problem. And it's something that we have to make
sure that we include as part of the overall this
deal that we make when it comes to how we
fund the government. These tax credits are expiring December thirty first,

(12:42):
and people are getting those increases, those notice of increases
right now. So Republicans need to come to the table.
They need to come back to work.

Speaker 8 (12:51):
What's it the reason I asked that we're having a
fight right now for a seven week continuing resolution and
in a week we're going to be right back at
the same spot, right.

Speaker 11 (13:04):
Yes, yes, which is why we need to negotiate the
full decision on how to deal with this right now.
I don't know what they think is going to be
different in seven weeks. It'll just be closer to the
deadline and there'll be more pressure. They had all year
to deal with this. We asked them to include this
in the big ugly law that they passed.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
They refused.

Speaker 11 (13:25):
They kicked the can down the road further. And now
they're saying, oh, just trust us. You know, we'll just
pass the CR for seven weeks and you know we'll
negotiate with you after that point. Well, no, then it's
November and we're about a month out by then. And
when it comes to making sure that people have affordable
health care that is absolutely critical.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
If you don't have your.

Speaker 11 (13:47):
Health, you don't have anything, and you should not be
forced to the eighty two thousand people in my district
who would lose health care entirely, and the two hundred
and three thousand people who would see their cost skyrocket
if those tax betts expire, they serve affordable healthcare. They
shouldn't have to use the emergency room as their access points,
and they shouldn't be forced into being diagnosed at later
stages of illness and having much more expensive healthcare complications

(14:11):
that might kill them.

Speaker 8 (14:15):
Well, I'm gonna tell you this year, congress Woman. I've
traveled this country and all I'm hearing for people who
watch this show when I'm around, all around, folks are
saying Democrats bet not Ben Buckle. They said they need
to stand firm and continue to take the fight to
Republicans because they see how they are abusing the Department

(14:37):
of Justice. They see how they are abusing people with
these ice folks. They see what's happening with National Guard,
and I'm hearing people say enough is enough.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
They're sick of it, and this is a heel Democrats.

Speaker 8 (14:49):
Must die on and stand firm and fight them tooth
and nail and get everything they want and not compromise.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
This is critical.

Speaker 11 (14:57):
Our leader, Hakim Jeffries has been very clear, consistent and unifying.
The House Democrats are in lockstep. We're not budging. Our
senate counterparts haven't been budging either, and we need to
just stay in this fight.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
We need to make sure that we.

Speaker 11 (15:11):
Pay the troops, and we need to make sure that
we guarantee the law is enforced to pay our furloughed
employees who are only off the job now because Republicans
refuse to come to the table and do their job
and make sure healthcare is affordable.

Speaker 8 (15:28):
All right, Coni, Fluming Dibbie, Watchman shilt, I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (15:31):
Look forward to having you back on the shelf.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
We'd love to Thanks so much.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
Roland, good to see you, Blackwise, Thanks a lot. Folks
got to go to break. We'll be right back rolling
Unfiltered right again. The Blackstut Network.

Speaker 7 (15:46):
Next on the Black Table with me Craig Carr. A
reminder that there is always more to a story than
meets the from book Bannings, growing censorship in our classrooms
and the loss of basic human rights. The actual motivations
behind those actions and others paint an even more troubling
picture than most of us realize.

Speaker 12 (16:07):
What we need to do is bring this issue front
and center to the table, because the alternative is that
we'll just go down slow, which is no way to
go down.

Speaker 7 (16:19):
Master historian and educator doctor Gerald Horn joins us again,
and we take a deep dive into the truths behind
the headlines of the day and how we might be
able to turn the time. That's on the next Black
Table here on the Black Star Network.

Speaker 9 (16:39):
If in this country right now, you have people get
up in the morning and the only thing they can
think about is how many people they can hurt, and
they've got the power.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
That's the time for morning, for better or worse.

Speaker 8 (16:51):
What makes America special, it's that legal system that's supposed
to protect minorities from the tyranny of the majority. We
are at a point of a moral emergency. We must
raise a voice of outrage, we must raise a voice
of compassion.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
And we must raise a voice of unity.

Speaker 9 (17:15):
We are not in a crisis of party versus party.
We are in a crisis of civilization, a humans rights crisis,
and a crisis of democracy. Itself, and guess what, You've
been chosen to make sure that those that would destroy,
those that would hate, don't have the final say, and

(17:36):
they don't ultimately win.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
What's good? Jonnie is Doug e freshman watching my brother.

Speaker 9 (17:43):
Roland mark unbuilty as we go a little something like
this hit it.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
It's real, all right, folks, Let's get right to it.

Speaker 8 (18:02):
Doctor Nola Haynes, Georgetown School of Foreign Service out of DC.
Also Greg Cart Department of Back for American Studies, Howard University.
Cameron Tremble also joins us on the panel. CEO of
Hip Politics Media, former White House Senior Advisor Greg I'm
gonna go to you first, bomb lauds this year. They
gotta stand firm, they gotta stand tall, and they got

(18:24):
they got to bring Republicans to their knees on this issue.
They must be on the offensive every single day, every hour,
every minute.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Every second.

Speaker 7 (18:34):
You're absolutely right, Roland, And you know it's an interesting convergence,
isn't it at this moment looking at that commercial that
played during the break with Reverend Barbara, He's right, this
is a moral issue. It's a broad issue, but I
want to I said that as a prelude to this.
People don't take a lot of time to think about

(18:56):
the broader issues and the values and the concepts. This
is a clear issue you in this moment of party
versus party. It is absolutely party versus party. The Republicans,
the White Nationalist Party, has one objective, and one objective
only to obstruct everything so that their Lord and master,
Donald John Trump will not have to face those Epstein files,
will not have to face the cascade that is going

(19:18):
to be eventually follow down upon all of them because
of all of this illegal, outlandish, outlaw fascist activity. Everybody
else who is against that Trump and them are lay
against Democrats. You're a Democrat, you're a commiss, You're a Republican.
The Democratic Party, in other words, at this moment, does
not just represent the party apparatus, It represents everybody who

(19:40):
is anti fascist. So no, they cannot bend right now.
Maga Mike Johnson, the Maga muppet is a purebred liar
through his DNA. Now they have thrown all caution to
the wind, and they are desperate because Trump doesn't want
anybody to do anything that he thinks will endanger him personally.
So you've got a delite to resolver, who has been

(20:01):
in this city now for days, saying swear me in.
And this little man gets on television at press conferences
and says, I'll swear in whatever she wants, meaning what
the Republicans have thrown all caution to the wind, and
they are pure bred liars that Finally, the Democratic Party's
responsibility at this point is to make this a moral
battle between these evil fascists and everybody else. Anybody who

(20:24):
budgets from the Democratic Party needs to be separated from
the Democratic Party. This is not the time to play.
We're gonna be bigger than them. We're gonna no, no,
no no. This is fascism versus everybody, and for better
for worse. The Democratic Party at this point is the
representative of everybody.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
Camera this is game on. The ship said, this is
game on. It is, it is game on.

Speaker 13 (20:45):
And I've been talking to several members of Congress over
the last few days and making sure doing one thing
that they're umping upping the ANNIE, the amount of content
they're flooding the airwaves, getting on as many platforms as possible,
really consistently, and continuing to define the problem, why they're
standing in, why the government is shut down, Why this

(21:06):
isn't about healthcare, why this is about taxes for the rich,
how this is affecting people. And then the one thing
I would say Roland, is that the Democrats do while
this is a they have an opportunity here to continue
to define this government shut down as something that is
wholly owned by the Republican and Republican Party. And there
are votes coming up, and there are elections coming up

(21:28):
in November and a few key states that we're going
to see if some of that, if people do assign
this government shut down and all the pain that they're
feeling and will continue to feel to Republicans. But the
Democrats don't need to overplay their hand where hey, it's Democrat, Democrat, democrat.
This is as doctor Carr said, this is fascist versus

(21:48):
everybody else. Some people may not want to hold the
term democrat, but they do want to hold the turn
of fighting back. So this is an opportunity for them
to broaden that message and broaden their coalition. So even
if I don't want to identify as a Democrat, but
I identify against this fascist regime, I identify against all
this pain that the Republican Party is causing.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
The American people, Yes, Nola.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
So two quick things.

Speaker 14 (22:17):
Yesterday I spent a little time with Leader Schumer and
also Senator Booker, and it was a very interesting conversation.
The first thing to know is they the Democrats are
responding to polling that is favorable, that the rest of
the country is aligned with their message around healthcare. And

(22:39):
because they are seeing the results of what Cameron just mentioned,
you know, them tapping into new voices, doing things with
content creators, even Chuck Schumer's video from the other day
that he's very proud of that he wants everybody to share,
you know. So they're starting to see some positive gains

(23:00):
in terms of messaging. And one of the things that
I had a chance to ask Senator Booker and he
had a very eloquent response, which were not surprised. I
asked him, you know, what's beyond the party versus Trump, Like,
what else is there? And so it was very clear
from this battle with the big beautiful bill, with the shutdown,

(23:24):
that it's very clear that the message is about the
American people. That's it is wanting to do the right
thing by the American people instead of waking up with
horrible thoughts of vengeance and wanting to hurt the American people.
So from what I understand, that's what they're going to

(23:44):
build momentum on is how they can help American people,
not only help us through this time, but beyond that.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
And I am on board.

Speaker 14 (23:53):
For a message that is about the American people.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Again.

Speaker 8 (24:00):
I just think what has to what has to happen
here is there has to be it has to be
a constant position of attack camera, it has to be
aggressive in every way. Uh, and it can't just be
just what's happening in Washington, d C. This is where
the strategy, as I said, you got to be farming

(24:22):
people out all around the country and hitting people. So
you're getting not just national television, but you're getting on
these local broadcasts, these local radio broadcasts, local television station
broadcasts in these red states, in these cities.

Speaker 13 (24:39):
I think exactly they need to be on local TV,
local radio, local content creators, everybody, that local sphere of influence.
I've seen, for example, Congressman gave Oma up in Rhode Island,
He's done a good job of showing up in his
district in different places, in different federal buildings, in different
places to show like here's a real world effect of

(25:02):
the government shut down. Here's a real hospital, here's a
real business that is not going to receive grants. Here's
a real here's a real community nonprofit organization whose funding
has been cut off and jobs are being lost and
services are being lost. Like, they've got to put that
on camera. They've had to put that on video. They've
got to consistently and consistently talk because if they're with
any silence, they realize they're up against a misinformation mega machine.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
So they've got to do it like in NonStop.

Speaker 8 (25:32):
Again. That that the reason I'm saying the messaging war
is critical because Greg, this could be the thing that
Democrats have been searching for for the past nine ten
months where they're able to gain their footing and build
some traction. So even so they have they have to
be building off of this and again staying on the

(25:54):
offensive because, as Nola says, the polling data is what
the mom is.

Speaker 7 (26:00):
I have absolutely, absolutely zero faith in or expectation of
the Democratic Party. Okay, let's just set this as a
level set for me. Many of their politicians are no
different than Republican politicians or any elected position. The politicians
they want to retain the office. They have their donors,
they have the lobbyists, and they're gonna go whichever way

(26:22):
the wind is blowing. That having been said, the wind
is strongly blowing in the direction of the right thing
to do. I don't ever hear have to hear from
Chuck Schumer again in my entire life, my life, his
life combined, double it, triple it, quadruplet. I never need
to hear from him again. He is completely useless in this.
If he wants to make social media stuff, if he

(26:43):
wants to do that, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
And now that I said with all that is a prelude.

Speaker 7 (26:46):
I will say this because the wind is blowing in
that direction. It is up to those stronger voices in
the Democratic Party to really lead this charge. I don't
think Chuck Schumer needs to be leading this charge. The
majority leader in the Senate has revealed himself to be
an utter and completely He has a complete lack of

(27:08):
morals and utter fascist. He's talking now as crazy as
Donald Trump talks. The Maga muppet Mike Johnson. Nearly forty
percent of his district, almost two hundred and ninety thousand
people are on medicaid in his district. Those voices in
the Democratic Party who are able to frame this issue
need to be the ones leading this battle. And these

(27:28):
other folks who are more cautious and more pos driven
probably need to be a little bit more quiet. And
what they don't need to do is to introduce any harm.
And I think that this point now the strategy has
to be allow those voices to lead. Allow, as we
just heard Cameron say, the forces who are not identifying
as Democratic, Republican or engaged in the policals process whatsoever

(27:49):
to see in those voices a beacon. Allow those voices
to include not just those here inside the Beltway, but
people like the mayor of Chicago, Randon Johnson, the governor
of Illinois, the governor of California, and others who are
willing to fight. Let them lead this fight from the provinces,
because what will happen is is this desperation continues and

(28:10):
they get more and more desperate. It becomes a loop
which makes them look more and more absurd, which means
that when will blow stronger and stronger. And if this
were the Hunger Games the movie, the rebellion is coming
from the provinces and the capital city is on the
verge of collapse. And by the way, Miga Mike swearing
out of legric Jjarva say she can give that two
hundred and eighteenth vote so that your Lord and Master
Donald John Trump can have the thing that he fears
the most, which is those files being released to my

(28:33):
little friend. Winter is coming. I think Roland might be
uh are to me, Yeah, you're gonna uh well, I'll
tell you what I think. Probably the control booth is

(28:54):
going to ask us to take a quick break. And
when we came back, we were resumed with Roland Martin.
It unless they telling us something different, we probably take
a moment. I hear the music playing, so we'll be
back in a moment. Here on the Blackstar Network with
romand Martin Unfiltered, Back in.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
A moment.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
Next on the Black Table with me Craig Carr. A
reminder that there is always more to a story than
meets the from book bannings, growing censorship in our classrooms,
and the loss of basic human rights, the actual motivations
behind those actions and others paint an even more troubling
picture than most of us realize.

Speaker 12 (29:34):
What we need to do is bring this issue front
and center to the table because the alternative is that
we'll just go down slow, which is no way to
go down.

Speaker 7 (29:46):
Master historian and educator doctor Gerald Horn joins us again
and we take a deep dive into the truths behind
the headlines of the day and how we might be
able to turn the tie on the next Black Table
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Said the quiet part out loud. Black votes are a threat,
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Speaker 8 (35:17):
Representatives a odec Itis Jodasy right here and rolland Mardin unfiltered.
I've warned your numerous times there's a massive case that
will go before the Supreme Court on October fifteenth that
could very well wipe out half of the Congressional Black Caucus.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
Folks.

Speaker 8 (35:43):
This is the most serious attack on the Voting Rights
Act since that Shelby v. Holder case will settled more
than a decade ago. Fair Fight Action and Black Voters
Matter Fund they released a new report explaining what's at
stake in the Louisiana versus Cali case.

Speaker 6 (36:01):
Again, the Supreme Court is gonna be rehearing.

Speaker 8 (36:03):
Arguments next week at center on section to the Voting
Rights Act, the central safeguard against racially discriminatory redistrictive. Now,
I wanna try to keep in mind we're talking about here.
Supreme Court is already ruled in this particular congressional seat
that black voters were frankly screwed out of representation. They

(36:24):
declared that the Louisiana maps were unconstitutional. They ruled against Louisiana.
They had to create a second district. The folks in
Louisiana elected Cleo Fields. Louisiana then said, oh, we want
a second by in fact, they have multiple bikes at
the Apple. It went a Supreme Court, it went back
the Fifth Circuit. Is all these games they played, they

(36:45):
kept losing everywhere. Then they said, hmm, let's attack this
a different way now that Trump is in the White House.
Now you have these far right legal theories about this.
How about we'd say no use of race in any
redistrict team. That could be the death knell. Natasha Brown

(37:07):
co Foindal is a black co founder of Black Voters Matter.
Jones us right now and Latasha, we tried to tell
people we always say hashtag, We tried to tell you
during the election, what's at state where all these simple
silence out here were saying, oh, we survived him the
first time. Oh tangibles, Oh it's not that bad. We

(37:28):
kept saying, no, you don't understand what's going on. We
have now seen how chieved Justice John Roberts, how they
have been ruling in Kavanaugh and a LDO and Amy
Coney Barritt. And we know, course we know Clarience Thomas,
who despises black people. And so this case right here,
the fact that they're rehearing this case a year after

(37:51):
they've already settled. The case should be scary to all
of us who care about voting rights and civil rights.

Speaker 16 (38:00):
I think this is going to be the most significant possible.
It's the most significant voting rights case that we've seen
since twenty twelve when there was a gun of Section five.
The two things in the in the Voting Rights Act
that actually made it powerful was Section five, which was

(38:20):
stripped earlier. That basically was a preclearance clause that before
you draw district, you had to have.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
A district.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
You had to get pre clearance to do that.

Speaker 16 (38:29):
But the second piece that I think a lot of
people in terms of Section two, what it does, it
gives a right to a draw to gerir mander districts
in such a way that black voters have some inputs,
some real influence over the outcome of it, so that
we can get representation in Louisiana. Louisiana, I don't know
if people know this, but one third of the population
of Louisiana are black people.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
That's one third of the state.

Speaker 16 (38:51):
Right yet we only had one for years, we only
had one congressional district. Right, as you said earlier, Roland,
you know it was because of the courts came back
it was so egregious that they told the state of Louisiana,
look y'all, we can't do this. You got to fix it,
and as a result, they created the second district. Now
there's a small group of folks that are coming back

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saying that for us to have fair representation, that in
some way that's discriminating against white voters.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
We got to see what the line is.

Speaker 16 (39:18):
It's ironic that we're in this moment that the same
court that says that it's okay to use race to
racial profile, that ice can use it to racial profile.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
But now we're looking at this case that.

Speaker 16 (39:32):
Billion up black brown representation, particularly throughout the South, but
around the nation. So I think people need to understand, like,
look at this case, the fact that the Supreme Court
has taken it up. You just made a ruling a
year ago saying that it was egregious.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
What happened.

Speaker 16 (39:49):
You made a ruling in Alabama and the Alabama case
saying that in Alabama needs more black people of the state.
So but here we are in a height environment where
we're seeing the we're seeing racism be weaponized in all
forms of the court system. Right now in a society

(40:10):
right now in this nation, and so this is a
critical I need black fot, I need all people who
really care about democracy to wake up and see, really
what's at stake here.

Speaker 8 (40:20):
This case is not just about Louisiana Latasha. Again, the
net effect of this case could very well, on the
low side, wipe out twenty CBC seats. It will impact
also Latinos as well. It could mean half of the
congressional by caucus. There are sixty one members of the

(40:42):
SASION see right now, the eighteenth congressional seat in Houston
has not been filled with the death of Congressman Sevester Turner.
We're talking about potentially twenty to thirty black member members
those seats wiped out. If the Supreme Court agrees with
the folks challenging luis the in a case.

Speaker 16 (41:04):
It could be devastating for some of them. I apologize,
I don't know if the connection is wrong, bad on
my in or eyes.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 6 (41:17):
We can hear you win it in and out, but
we can hear you.

Speaker 16 (41:19):
Go ahead, Yes, so I think I know what you said,
but I'll just say that, you know, people need to
understand what is at stake here. This isn't about We
don't need to get caught up whether you like this
party of this right now, what's at stake is.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
Power that this is really a power graph.

Speaker 16 (41:43):
This is a graph that says that the majority of
black voters now actually live in the South. So if
this case is a Supreme Court rules against rules against
us and rules that to take out Section two, what
is central that will do As you just stated.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
Roland, it will strip black and brown.

Speaker 16 (42:05):
Seats throughout the South, which actually will limit representation. But
that just doesn't have implications in the South. That has
implications on call will actually have power in the entire nation.

Speaker 5 (42:15):
So everybody should be paying attention to what is happening.
This is a power graph.

Speaker 16 (42:20):
We have to raise our voices so that we can
actually put the Supreme Court notas that we are paying
attention to you. We're paying attention to this ruling and
we will not go quietly in the night. The South
has something to say and we will not be silenced.
So there are a couple of things that people can do,
you know. One, we want to have people to sign
a petition.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
We are.

Speaker 16 (42:41):
Calculating we are standing to support and support of the
voting Rights Act, lead the Voting Rights Act alone and
make sure that our representation that we are it's protected.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
And so they can sign the petition.

Speaker 16 (42:54):
You can find the petition on our website, Black Voters
Matter Fund dot This.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
Second thing is they can also join us.

Speaker 16 (43:02):
Next Wednesday, October fifteenth, at ten am, the.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
NAACP Legal Defense Fund is holding a rally on the
Supreme Court.

Speaker 16 (43:11):
We can show up in masks and and solidari say
that we are watching, we are hand and our voice
is shot now.

Speaker 5 (43:18):
So if you're interested in that, we're.

Speaker 16 (43:20):
Actually taking some buses up from the South, you can
go to our website again, Black Votersmatter fund dot org
information about that. And the thing is, I need people
to understand that we have to fund our fight, that
somebody has to pay for this. We got to find
and I ask you to donate to frontline groups if

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you can attend at least support those groups that are
fighting for us day in and day out.

Speaker 5 (43:46):
You can fund groups.

Speaker 16 (43:47):
Like Transformed to Justice Coalition, support groups like the NAACP
Legal Defense Fund, support Black Voters Matter, even the Roland
Martin Show. That we've got to really start using our
money in such a way that we're supporting those that
are on the front lines that will bring up the
truth and that will help us really push back what
we're seeing happen in this station right now.

Speaker 8 (44:08):
Again, you broke up there. So the rally that's going
to be taking place, when is that?

Speaker 16 (44:14):
The rally is on Wednesday, October fifteenth at ten am
in front of the Supreme Court on the steps of
the Supreme Court. Join us October fifteenth. The Legal Defense
Fund is hosting a rally at the Supreme Court on
the steps. You can also join us. We're taking some
buses up so you can go to our website and

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find out more information about how you can join and
be a part of our delegation or just come and
join us and stand up for voting rights.

Speaker 8 (44:44):
I was speaking to the Louisiana State Conference the NAACP
on Shaturday in Baton Rouge, and they actually are plaintiffs
in this callous lawsuit, and they're going to have folks
who are from Louisiana coming up for the oral arguments
because those old arguments are happening on that same day
at the Supreme Court. So that's why folks are rallied

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outside of the Supreme Court.

Speaker 16 (45:08):
You know, and I want to go back to the
third thing that I asked that I talked about funding
our freedom, funding our fight.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
You know, people got to wake up.

Speaker 16 (45:16):
Do you know there's a thing called the Marble of
Freedom Trust. They are putting one point six billion dollars
behind this. They're funding conservative legal fights such as.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
This, their fights that they come up in the lab.

Speaker 16 (45:31):
And it was like, listen, what are some ways that
we can undermine grab power and marginalized voices.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
This is a part of that.

Speaker 16 (45:39):
And so the other side is fully funding fights like
this like this Marble Freedom Trust one.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
Point six million dollars.

Speaker 16 (45:47):
I'm asking people five dollars, ten dollars, fifty.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
Dollars, whatever, whatever.

Speaker 16 (45:52):
Denomination that you can afford, and that you can give
and put your spirit behind that that we're saying.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
We've got to stand together as a community and.

Speaker 16 (46:00):
Recognize that there are fights on all kinds of levels.
We know that there's all kinds of issue fights going on.
But what we do know is that when there is
a fight, you need to make sure that your front
lines are taking care. We need to make sure that
we're able to fight to make sure that we always
have representation, particularly.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
In the South.

Speaker 8 (46:18):
We've covered this on this show, Tasha and Natasha trying
to get people to understand you're talking about this Marvel trust.
What you had was you had this rich Republican who
gave me and frankly hasn't passed away.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
He's still here. He gave Literal Leo.

Speaker 8 (46:39):
This money, the one point six billion dollars to create
this and Literal Leo, this is Literal Leo right here.
This is the man who ran the Federly of Society,
who put these Supreme Court justice conservative Supreme Court justices
on the court. And what they're trying to do with
this money right here, you see right here, this is

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in two thousand and twenty three alone. This is The
New York Times, a deep pocketed nonprofit organization founded by
the conservative activist Leonard Leo, gave away one hundred and
eighty two point seven million dollars in a year's time.
They were foured in twenty twenty. The gift was one
point six billion, came from one person, one person, that

(47:24):
single donors contribution of one hundred percent of a company's
shares before the company was sold. And so he gave
Literard Leo this money to spend any way he wants to.
And what progressives have to understand in this Battle of
Latasha is that these people are clear.

Speaker 6 (47:43):
And this is what I laid out earlier.

Speaker 8 (47:45):
This is what I let out earlier, and when I'm
talking about in January, I said point blank what these
people want to do is they want to completely defund
black America. Robert Robert Mercer, Robert Mercer who funded Wright
Bart and Writbart when they were attacking black people left

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and right. Robert Mercer is quoted as saying that the
decline of America and I'm gonna find the quote. He
was saying that the decline of America began with the
Civil Rights Act.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
That was a particular so that but he called it
a major mistake.

Speaker 8 (48:27):
Okay, Now keep in mind, this is the same language,
and people understand, this is the same language that Charlie
Kirk was using. This is the same language that the
right is using. So now, I mean, people who are listening,
watch you understand connect the dots. Why do they despise

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the Civil Rights Act Because it's not just public accommodations
for black people. It's the fact that these white folks
could not discriminate in so many areas even privately. Then
you go to the Voting Rights Act. They despise that.
Then you go to the Fair Housing Act. So people
need to understand what their target goal is. Their target

(49:15):
goal first is to destroy and eradicate the Voting Rights
Act because what that does is that completely decapitates black
political power. Because I said Latasha that it could wipe
up behalf of the CBC.

Speaker 6 (49:30):
But here's what people have to understand.

Speaker 8 (49:32):
The same Voting Rights Act is used for state rep seats,
county commissioner seats, city council seats, school board seats. So
you could see a complete political obliteration of black politics
across the country. If the Supreme Court rules in Louisiana's

(49:56):
favor in this case, that's how dangerous.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
That's the political piece after, and so their goal is
to do that.

Speaker 8 (50:05):
Then their goal is to go after the economic piece.
They already took took out affirmative action in universities, and
so their strategy every single thing that black people died
for in thirteen years of the Black freedom movement they
want to wipe out. And then they're also using the

(50:27):
very civil rights laws boring out of reconstruction.

Speaker 6 (50:32):
The same civil.

Speaker 8 (50:33):
Rights Act of eighteen sixty six using that against us.
So people need to stop. You know, I've been yelling
and screaming. I'm like, y'all, we're already are bullshitting. And
I love dancing and I love having a good time
and boots.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
On the ground.

Speaker 8 (50:47):
I'm like, yo, But these folks they're playing for keeps
because they want to solidify white power for the next
one hundred years because they know the Democrat's are changing.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
Oh, absolutely part of the problem, Roland.

Speaker 16 (51:04):
You know, that's why I hate hearing folks say, well,
you know why we voting because it don't count. Stop it, y'all, Like,
stop it that one. That whole excuse is just tired.
I'm like not even listening to that anymore because it's
tired and it's untrue because we're in the space that
we're in right now because people don't know what power
and what power levels we have.

Speaker 5 (51:21):
Do I believe that voting is the only power? Absolutely not.
But is it a former problem?

Speaker 16 (51:25):
You better believe it is, which is part of their
coming for three things.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
As you just stated, they're coming.

Speaker 16 (51:30):
For our power, our political power, They're coming for our money, right,
and they're coming for our humanity.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
What happened in Chicago.

Speaker 16 (51:37):
You got folks that are they're dropping down in black hawks,
going and statuing folks out of their apartments. Don't think
that you are saying that that can't happen to you.
And we've got to always make sure that our front
lines are covered. It is important who is in office
that represents us. Why not only for them to fight
back against that, but how do you think allocations are
made when money is being.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
Made at the table? I need to make sure that there's.

Speaker 16 (52:02):
Somebody at that table that is accountable to me or
feel some sense of accountability to me, to make sure
out that we're now completely left out.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
The writing is on the wall. We are seeing what
is happening.

Speaker 16 (52:13):
We're seeing this consolidation of power, this attempt to consolidate power.
And what can stop it? We can, people can. When
people rise up, you can make a difference. That's why
this isn't the moment like you said, Like you said, Roland,
I like to put boots on the ground, but we
need some real boots.

Speaker 6 (52:31):
On the ground.

Speaker 16 (52:32):
We need some folks on frontlines recognizing how critical this
moment is and understand that this is a transformative moment.
This just can't be about transactions. We cannot let people
come for us and we are not responding. We cannot
let people come for us in our power, and we're
not organizing.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
You know, there's a Bible verse.

Speaker 16 (52:53):
I was really thinking about everything around us is coming
and giving this message of fear, Like everything around is
wants us to be afraid and want us to be fearful,
and want us to feel powerless. Right, and ultimately they're
coming at us and want us to feel all of
those things. And so I went to the scriptures, because
I'm a person from the Christian faith tradition, I went

(53:14):
to the scriptures, and there's a scripture that just stuck
out to me, and it said, perfect love drives out
all fear. We've got to actually center ourselves in perfect love.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
What does that mean? That means that we've got to center.

Speaker 16 (53:27):
In love for our community, love for our families, love
for ourselves, love for democracy, love for freedom. This ain't
the moment just to have an opinion or just to
say all, they gonna do what they want to do anyway. No,
they don't do what they want to do anyway. They
will do what you allow them to do. If you
are not fighting, you are the problem. So all those folks,

(53:48):
and I'd love to hear my niece will say at
all the time, Ooh, I wouldn't have.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
Been able to do this in the civil rights movement.

Speaker 16 (53:53):
Whatever you're doing right now is what you would have
been doing in the civil rights movement. Is what you
would have been doing in slavery, what you would have
been doing when our people were fighting for our lives.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
Ultimately, right now, this is not a game, This is
not a.

Speaker 16 (54:06):
Drill that ultimately there is a strategy to really unravel
all of the games that we've made to have black
folks in a perpetual subservient position, for us not to
have political power, for us not to have economic power,
and for us not to have the right to be
self determined. We have to resist that with everything in us.

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This is the moment, This is the time.

Speaker 6 (54:29):
Questions from the panel. We first go to Cameron. Great
to see you.

Speaker 13 (54:36):
One thing that I think that you just mentioned that
voting is the power and people have to realize that
their vote does matter. But kind of being in the
streets trying to get young people, trying to get black people,
trying to get people from the hoods, to the neighborhoods
and the suburbs, to be able to let them know
that their vote still does have power. But if this

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section two of the voting Rights is gutted, the power
that they one of the power levers that they still
had even if they weren't exercising, will be stripped away.
How do we make the case to people who haven't
been voting, because there's so many people who stayed at
home and on the couch, who if they come to
the ballots and they come to the polls this year,
and they come to the polls next year, it's one

(55:19):
of our last chances to really fight back. How do
we really encourage them, encourage them to get out and
vote and not shame them, but encourage them.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
One thank you for that question.

Speaker 6 (55:30):
One.

Speaker 16 (55:30):
I think it's real quick, simple. We got to stop
line and tell the truth. And what do I mean
by stop line? I think over what we have done
is that we have over the years to get people
to vote. We do a couple of things. One we
either we got to scare you to death right and
hope that you get mad and angry and understand how
important it is, or we tell you is the end

(55:52):
all is to be all is going to solve your problems.
Many people have done that, and folks know that that's
not true. It's the truth is that voting in itself
is not all that we need.

Speaker 5 (56:03):
We can actually honestly say that.

Speaker 16 (56:04):
So when people are saying that they have some concern
about that, there's some validity that we understand, many of us.
I know that I've voted for people before and I
got all the things that I wanted. Are the things
that even some of the things that they promised me,
I understand that, right, And so I think we have
to validate when people are saying that instead of shaming them,
we have to own that and own that this system
is deeply flawed.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
Right.

Speaker 16 (56:26):
But the truth part of it is that doesn't matter absolutely.
There's not a single person that says can say that
it doesn't matter or they've not done real work. Because
if you've gone in the courtroom, have a certain judge, y'all.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
Know, there's some judges that you don't want to go before.
There's some judges that you do.

Speaker 16 (56:43):
There's some das that can make the difference between the
same exact charge, whether our people will getting some parity
or if something as simple as having some cannabis will
get thrown the book at right, that it does make
a difference, and we're sophisticated enough to know that it
makes a difference. We got to stop right with not
being truthful with each other of saying that, yes, we

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understand the limitations and you are right. But the truth
of the matter is when a people are at war
are being attacked, you have to use every tool available
to you to protect your community. And that's what I
think we have to be. We have to really root
our answer in where we're talking to folks and engage
them in what they care about and make that connection
to what is it that you care about and help

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them to actually be able to see because oftentimes we're
not connect making the connection.

Speaker 6 (57:31):
Points more well. Also, we gotta let them know.

Speaker 8 (57:34):
You'll see nobody white telling them white folks not to vote.
It's only simple simon negroes who yell at screaming on
social media like yeah, don't vote, at vote they gonna
do nothing. Yeah that's you, Umar Johnson and the rest
of y'all. But ain't it funny the people who say
voting don't matter, But when they're trying to get a

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school built. They got to go through the state government,
in the city government. That's all government.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
See.

Speaker 8 (58:02):
That's the other thing that I keep trying to tell
folk Latasha. They the people who act like they are
living a life where government has no role in their
life is an absolute lie. There is nobody on this
earth where government does not play a role in your life.

Speaker 6 (58:20):
I don't care what it is. I don't care if
it's city.

Speaker 8 (58:23):
County, state, federal school, It does not matter. Government plays
a role in the life of everybody, and you better
be a participant in that government or it will definitely
deal with your ass accordingly.

Speaker 16 (58:36):
No, it's like take care of your business or your
business will take care of you. The bottom line is,
it's not just in life, it's also in depth. There's
not a single aspect of our lives that is not
impacted by public policy. Even if you have a family
member or a loved one to die, in order to
collect the life insurance, you got to get the death certificate.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
Someone actually governed that. Where you live is government here.

Speaker 8 (58:57):
How the death certificate is a govern The death certificate
is a government document.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Is a government document. There's no aspect of your life.

Speaker 16 (59:07):
Not a single aspect of your life that is not
impacted in some way by public policy, from where you
live to how it's zoned, to how much money you
make at work, to how much you can take out
they can take out of your check.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
So we've got to really be honest that.

Speaker 16 (59:22):
At the end of the day, yes, we may not
be able to get everything that you want in this
particular way.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
I understand that those limitations.

Speaker 16 (59:29):
But the truth of the matter is there are decisions
being made about you, whether you agree with the process
or not. And the process that actually that you have
influence is electing folks. That's just the truth.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Those are facts.

Speaker 14 (59:43):
No loa, Hey, Latasha, it's always great to see you,
and you literally always bring all the passion and all
the facts, and I'm just always in awe of you.

Speaker 5 (59:56):
But here's my question.

Speaker 14 (59:58):
With everything that we're seeing happening around the country with
special elections, special mayorial elections, congressional elections where Democrats are
performing are performing really well, even to the degree where
a Trump polster is worried about this shutdown, especially the

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messaging around healthcare, is saying that it could potentially cost
Republicans ten to fifteen points in twenty twenty six if
they're not on the right side of this.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
So here's my question. Are you seeing a shift.

Speaker 14 (01:00:32):
On the ground the way that we're seeing a shift
in these other areas with messaging that seems to be
going a little bit more in a positive direction. We're
seeing it in the results in these special elections. But
on the ground in Louisiana where I'm from, what are
you seeing is any of this landing there the way
that it is in other places for people to really

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get out and to get involved and to understand what's
test stake.

Speaker 16 (01:00:58):
So let me say this one, thank you great seeing you, Nolah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
Let me say this.

Speaker 16 (01:01:03):
I think that there's no way that you are a lee, living,
breathing human by a human being with any sense of
intelligence and not know what time it is. You know,
one of the things Black folks are real perceptive when
you don't nobody have to spell out racism. But you
see it, you see it, you smell it, you feel it,
you know it, you know how it feels, you know

(01:01:23):
what it looks like. So at the end of the day,
the and all honesty, look at what's happening right now.
We're seeing it We're seeing what happens when there's this concentration,
that this attempt to consolidate power, and it's not in
the same frame.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
It may not be in the same frame as political parties.

Speaker 16 (01:01:41):
I heard my brother car and I understand exactly where
he is. The bottom line is, we're so beyond that.
This isn't about a party fight. This is really about
a power fight. And I'm going to tell you, the
enemy of my enemy is my friend. I am going
to align myself with whoever is going to protect me
from those that seek to hurt me, harm and kill me.

Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
And so that's a strategic decision. That's a strategic.

Speaker 16 (01:02:04):
Decision that black folks have always had to make and
will continue to have to make as we're building what
we need to build to be self determined.

Speaker 5 (01:02:11):
And so I think it's.

Speaker 16 (01:02:12):
Really important in this moment that as I've been talking
to folks, I've not talked to anybody that does not
know what time it is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Matter of fact, what's.

Speaker 16 (01:02:20):
Interesting is as I've been walking in grocery stores, I
get stopped on the streets and people will saying, what
is I need to do? What do I need to
do in this moment? And so I think it's I
think that there is a sense of urgency and community,
not at the level that I think we need to
see it, because I don't want people to move out
of fear, but I do want people to move in

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a way to recognize that our best chance of beating
this back has always been we've leveraged our collective power.
We've got to use our economic power in a very
different way. We can't fund folks who are actually.

Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
Working against us. We got to be you shouldn't be getting.

Speaker 16 (01:02:56):
Nothing from target at right now, and a whole list
of other people, and you'll hear more about that. But
the second thing is when people are trying to take
our political power, you can't just poopoo that. We've got
to really be able to organize ourselves and lift that
up and spread the word some people. What I found
is a lot of people that don't know what is
happening with this case right now, which is part of
the reason I'm so glad that Roland let us talk

(01:03:18):
about this on the show, that they don't realize that
this case because there's so many things that are happening,
because the chaos is the point that Trump and the
administration are intentionally creating so many so much chaos and
confusion right now that they believe that some things will
get lost in the cracks. You got to pay attention,
Black folks. You have to pay attention.

Speaker 5 (01:03:39):
What is happening on us on every level.

Speaker 16 (01:03:41):
And if you individually can't pay attention to it, what
you need to do is support the kind of organizations
that are and the people that are on the front line.

Speaker 7 (01:03:50):
Great car, Thank you, Roland, and it's always good to
see you, sister Latusha. And one of the many things
that are really deeply value and appreciate about you is
your ability to think and be an act in a
creative fashion, which is in the best tradition in spirit
of our ancestors.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
So my question builds on.

Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
Or extends and just kind of continues in the vein
of the one that we just heard from Nola, and
it has really two parts. One you've kind of already answered,
and that is how we not only organize but deploy
to maximize our voting strength. We see our brother Gary
Chambers in Louisiana giving us updates in terms of the
early voting daily on what's going on in New Orleans.

(01:04:32):
What's your sense particularly in Texas. Places like Texas, but
maybe even ultimately Louisiana in terms of how this gerrymander
might backfire even if they get everything they hope for,
if we can maximize the voting strength that we have
in the hyper Gerimander districts and perhaps even keep some
of those districts with representatives that are more favorable to

(01:04:53):
our concerns. And then the other part has to do
with creative thinking around the lawsuit. It won't be with
this case, but I'm thinking about the voting rights case
out of Tuskegee many years ago, Gamellion versus Lightfoot, the
landmark case around jerymandering, because these racists were so obvious
that they had to say it was unconstitutional, but they
didn't use because there wasn't a voting rights Act. Then

(01:05:15):
they used the Fifteenth Amendment, and I think it's been
an underused amendment in the legal arguments we've made. And
so the second part of my question, in addition to
thinking about how we can maximize our voting strength even
in hyper Geremanda DISTRICTSULD, do you think our legal strategy
should be more creative so that even if we lose
the voting Rights Act. We began to build out some

(01:05:35):
jurisprudence along the line of really reviving Fifteenth Amendment legal
arguments and even where it relates to the Voting Rights Act,
thinking about, of course Section two being revised in nineteen
eighty two to say you don't have to prove intent.
It's not necessary. Now, maybe even try to flip the
script in some ways and make the legal argument that

(01:05:56):
in doing this, this isn't colorblindness. What they are in
fact doing is trying to create a legal status for whiteness,
which is all right of discrimination on its own, a
theory that we really haven't been arguing in Latasha.

Speaker 8 (01:06:09):
Before you answer that, go to my iPad, Anthony. This
is the Fifteenth Amendment that Greg mentioned. The right of
citizens of the United States to vote shall not be
denied or bridged by the United States or by any State,
on an account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Speaker 6 (01:06:26):
Section two. The Congress shall.

Speaker 8 (01:06:28):
Have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Speaker 6 (01:06:31):
Latash shall go ahead.

Speaker 16 (01:06:34):
So doctor Carr, let me say this. I actually think
that is brilliant what you raised. I'm not a legal scholar,
so I can't tell you what would be the best way,
but I'm certainly certainly leaning towards what you're proposed. However,
let me just be honest. We are in the wild,

(01:06:54):
wild West right now, and I'm saying that because much
of what is happening right now a legal, no damn
way right here.

Speaker 5 (01:07:01):
You got the court, the same court that is.

Speaker 16 (01:07:04):
Saying that you can use racial profiling to pick people
up off the street indiscriminately, right, but you can't use
race as a criteria for elections. So we already see
that there's something wrong. To the extent that I do
think that we should use other creative ways, it really
is to show the hypocrisy of the courts and the
hypocrisy of what is happening in this nation so people

(01:07:27):
can see. Part of the reason why I think we
need to vote. I want to step back for a minute.
Part of the reason I do think that going to
your first part, part of the reason why people need
to vote in this election, and particularly in the election
next year, which may be one of the final and
one of the most critical and important elections, is because
I actually work with a professor at Harvard that is

(01:07:48):
doing a lot of work around and has done her
whole body of work around authoritarianism and how do dictators
come into power right and what stops them. Two ways
that you actually helped stop the consolidation of power. It
has been one through voting and as you vote, if

(01:08:10):
people feel even if the other side takes the election,
if people just feel that their election were stolen and
their voice got cut off, it becomes a tipping point
for the organized and where people have top of governments
because of that right or even there have been a
major change of governments. The second thing has been some
kind of what they call a black squad event, some

(01:08:32):
event that has happened that has been unexpected.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
Someone got killed, someone like that was.

Speaker 16 (01:08:37):
The tipping point, like from George Floyd murder that led
to the uprising, something that causes folks to actually become
so emotionally engaged that they uprise. The bottom line is
there is nothing that can stop authoritarianism and the consolidation
of power except people.

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
There's nothing.

Speaker 6 (01:08:56):
I'm just being right.

Speaker 16 (01:08:58):
So we got actually use these up vehicle in every
single way because you got to have your people on
the front lines.

Speaker 8 (01:09:06):
Greg asked you this the question about Texas and how
they could have played their hands But here's the point
that we have to understand. And we've been hammering this
and hammering this on this show on Latasha. You know
what Cliffe dide as well, when we vote our capacity,
they are banking on us staying at home.

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
Donald Trump reveled after twenty.

Speaker 8 (01:09:31):
He fainked black people publicly for not voting. So when
we turn out Greg mentioned Texas when Beto war critical.
When Beto ran against Greg abbits seventy five percent of
young people in Texas thirty and under didn't vote. Texas

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has the largest number of eligible black voters than any
state eight in the country. When we start talking about Mississippi,
you got a brother who's running for US Senate there
against Cindy Hytt Smith. Listen when she ran and when
she lost in twenty eighteen, guess what.

Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
She only won by sixty five thousand votes.

Speaker 8 (01:10:19):
There were at least one hundred thousand black people who
never even voted.

Speaker 6 (01:10:24):
Sherry Beasley when she ran for.

Speaker 8 (01:10:25):
Supreme Court Chief Justice the North caroloinne Supreme Court. She
lost by four hundred and one votes. And so the
votes are there. Bishop Barber, we're in a text train
and he sent it to us.

Speaker 6 (01:10:39):
What happened.

Speaker 8 (01:10:40):
Six hundred thousand black fols in North Carolina didn't vote.

Speaker 6 (01:10:44):
Numbers in Georgia exceed that.

Speaker 8 (01:10:46):
So the problem is we're sitting here complaining about power.
And if I have to use a light as an example,
you can't get any light if you don't plug the
son of a bitch, that's your power source. Voting the
power source it is.

Speaker 16 (01:11:06):
And what I want people to do that I do
want to be in a space that I really do.
I understand folks frustration with the system. Hell, we frustrated
with it. That is why if you want something change,
you gotta change it right. And it makes a difference.
And so I want to make an appeal to our folks.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
We need you.

Speaker 16 (01:11:24):
Bottom line, this is a moment right now that we
actually need you. We need you to protect our children,
when we need you to protect make health care, to
make sure we got health care access. We got to
fight for that, y'all. We've got to fight. We need you,
We need you to stand in a space. Sometimes all
of us have had to do things that we're not
uncomfortable or we're not totally about in I'm not here

(01:11:47):
to try to convince you around that voting is gonna
change everything. What I am here is to convince you
that we are in an urgent, dire position and that
we need you to stand up for your community and
we need you to use every tool available to you,
and one is voting.

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
So they're young people that are listening to this. They're
young folks.

Speaker 16 (01:12:06):
Part of the reason why people are not engaged Roland
is because there has been an effort and intention to
turn people against the process. Right that ain't just come
out of the sky blue. Some of those messages that
your vote don't count, Black folk can't come up with that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:20):
There were some.

Speaker 16 (01:12:21):
People who actually paid folks to actually say that in
our community, to undermine the voter suppression that we've seen
in the last five years accelerated because of this moment
that if it didn't matter, why would they try to
steal it? We got common since we know we know
a game when we see it. The bottom line is
games are being played because we over the years, we

(01:12:43):
have actually grown in our voting power, in our voting street,
in our representation.

Speaker 6 (01:12:49):
Just so y'all know Neanton Williams. I know her. She
was a school board member in Birmingham.

Speaker 8 (01:12:54):
She won her reelection y'all, this is what she sent
me Forget the fifty three point four, the forty six
pointy five to seven. She won by twenty nine votes.
This was, y'all, This was a school board race.

Speaker 6 (01:13:07):
Look at this. Here, Look at the numbers.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
She got the largest school district in Alabama.

Speaker 6 (01:13:12):
Need I need y'all to listen.

Speaker 8 (01:13:14):
See, we keep talking about how kids matter in this district.
In the runoffs, only four hundred and twenty three people voted.
She got two hundred and twenty six votes. She won
by twenty nine votes. So you can't tell me that
every vote doesn't matter.

Speaker 6 (01:13:33):
We got to go.

Speaker 8 (01:13:34):
I gotta reemphasize this because you said, but sit about
the money the.

Speaker 6 (01:13:37):
Work that y'all do.

Speaker 8 (01:13:39):
I need black people watching the work that we do.
I need black people watching and listening to understand this
same weight on some white philanthropists to come write a
big ass check. I just saw that Dominion Voting Systems
which sued Fox. Guess what you know why the settle

(01:14:00):
their lawsuits against Sidney Powell, against against Rudy Giuliani because
the Republican firm bought them. These Republicans, Oh, they'll cut
billion dollar checks to buy stuff. Elon Musk. Listen, he's
on the way to be a trillionaire. They'll spend fifty
billion dollars to buy something. Well, we have to understand this.

(01:14:22):
We have to be funding our politics. And I keep saying,
I'm not begging these folks to cut us a check,
but we're gonna demand that they actually spend money in
our communities. But if we want to give money to
black folks voting, and who's on the ground, I say,
sending directly to black voters matter. I said, forget these
these other folks who then we fund stuff, We have fundraisers,

(01:14:44):
we bundle money and then hoping pray, they show up,
and some white strategists is sitting there to side and
who gets to spend the who gets to who gets
the money. So it's about funding our stuff and the
work that y'all do is right there on the ground,
and we are right there with y'all.

Speaker 6 (01:14:59):
And I people got.

Speaker 8 (01:15:00):
To understand those one dollar, two dollars, five dollars, Little
I'm literally sitting right here, little Josha, while you talking,
I'm depositing mobile checks while it like right now, this
is twenty, this is twenty, this is twenty this is twenty,
this is twenty, this is twenty, is seventeen, this is eighteen,

(01:15:22):
and bunds our stuff.

Speaker 16 (01:15:24):
It finds our stuff, and it does such a for
the morale. We were down in Pritchett, Alabama, a few
years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
I always tell this story.

Speaker 16 (01:15:32):
We were on the street corner campaign and a system
walked up to us. Out of all of the millions
of dollars that we've gotten and given away, this.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
Sister walks up to us with a handful of change.

Speaker 16 (01:15:43):
It wound up being almost ten dollars, a change that
she had dug out of her car, out of the
armor car, and she said, here, y'all, I want y'all
to have this because I want to be a part
of this movement. I want to support what y'all are doing.
You do not understand I'm still riding off that ten dollars.
I still believe that ten dollars has just been blessed money.
It is important for us to know that we are

(01:16:04):
going to have to fund our institutions. If you want
black free press, you got to fund black free press.
If you want black organizations that are unapologetic, standing on
the side, fighting for.

Speaker 5 (01:16:18):
Your children, fighting for you. You've got to fund that.

Speaker 16 (01:16:21):
It is no longer acceptable for us to make excuses
about what we don't have when we literally have trillion
dollars with the resources that we get to consumers and
to companies every day that say they not won't even
stand up for diversity and inclusion and equity. So instead
of us giving our money to these folks who are
actually working against us, who are in fact funding the

(01:16:43):
people who are working against us, it is a moment.
This is a this is get real time. This is
a get real this is a check in time. We
are not no longer can just do business as usual.
We are under attack. Our community is under attack, and
we're going to have to be on the front lines
of protecting us, protecting us by getting involved. You can

(01:17:05):
get involved with us. Come join us on Wednesday, October
fifteenth in front of the steps of the Supreme Court
for the Legal Defense Fund's rally at ten am two.
Write a check, give a donation, whether I don't care
if it's to Rolling Barton so that he can do
independent news and continue to lift up these stories to
black voters matter. So we can still have organizers that

(01:17:27):
are out doing the work and making sure that we're
in this fight to groups like Transforming to Justice Coalition
with Barbara RNWI that is doing amazing work. Melodic camel
I can go on and on. There are groups that
are doing frontline work. We have to pay to make
sure that we are protecting ourselves because who else gonna
protect us? If we don't protect us, who else is

(01:17:48):
going to protect us? So take ten dollars, five dollars,
twenty dollars, five hundred dollars, that money that you set
aside to get a new pair of shoes.

Speaker 5 (01:17:57):
Make sure that your children are able to walk.

Speaker 16 (01:18:00):
A path that is free of people literally just trying
to dig a hole for them, right, And you do
that by protecting black independent power.

Speaker 8 (01:18:10):
And that's just the truth, hey' the fact. That's the truth,
and it's the truth, nothing but the truth. And I'm
gonna tell you something right now. So my cousin, Sharanda
sit midtext. Sharanda's mom, my aunt, died in twenty twenty
and her mom on her deathbed, her mom looked at
her and said, you your job is to send my

(01:18:32):
fifty dollars to Roland every year. And her son reminded
her and said, hey, mama ain'ty time to make that contribution.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
They do always around her birthday.

Speaker 8 (01:18:45):
So my aunt's been gone for five years, but she
told her daughter, you send my fifty even though I'm gone,
You send my fifty. And right here, y'all, this is
this week's you two weekly podcast.

Speaker 6 (01:18:57):
But my pad listen all these shows, y'all see all
these shows.

Speaker 8 (01:19:02):
I can guarantee you they bring in way more money
than we do. They bring in Pat McFee got him
a twenty million dollar deal with ESPN. You got a
Pakistani dude who gave Tucker Carlson fifteen million dollars to
launch his media company after he made millions at Fox News.

Speaker 6 (01:19:25):
Theo vonn oh right wing.

Speaker 8 (01:19:27):
Oh that millions he gets is Patrick Bett David millions
of dollars. Oh, Megan Kelly, she was a failure at
NBC and she walked away with almost seventy million dollars
off of her contract.

Speaker 6 (01:19:41):
So it's easy for us.

Speaker 8 (01:19:43):
Oh, Tim kast right there, He got hundreds of thousands
of dollars from a Russian front company just to do
one or two posts a month, and so he got
matter of fact, he got more from Russia than we
got from the from the Harris campaign last year, just so.

Speaker 6 (01:20:00):
Y'all can put that in perspective.

Speaker 8 (01:20:02):
And so you see all these folks you see in
terms of what they do, a lot of these right
wing shows millions of dollars they're able to get and
guess what, we still are doing the work. And then
right here, boom, we have fifty one and y'all, I'm
gonna say it again, we're the only black news show

(01:20:22):
that's parentally in the top one hundred every week. So
we take what Latasha's talking about. When they go out
there and they hit those streets and those rural areas
and they're sitting here bringing folk food and stuff. They're
taking those five and ten dollars contributions. It's forty five
hundred people watching right now on YouTube. If y'all go

(01:20:43):
give me the website, Latasha, whether we give a Black
Voters matp so.

Speaker 16 (01:20:46):
The Black Votersmatterfund dot org, Black Voters Matterfund dot org,
and follow our social media as well, y'all.

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
We're putting updates. It's not work.

Speaker 8 (01:20:55):
Between all the platforms and more than five thousand people.
If y'all gave ten dollars a person, Boom, they will
say our fifty grand. That's right in the next five
to ten minute. Fifty grand, y'all the same thing for us.
And so we have to do this because trust me,
Megan Kelly, she's sitting on millions. Serious is paying her millions? Serious,

(01:21:17):
they're paying these volk Ain't no corporate media cutting us.

Speaker 6 (01:21:21):
Checks and all you foods like oh the white man.

Speaker 8 (01:21:23):
Ain't nobody white hiding behind one of these doors saying
Roland do this nobody? Okay, So this is we're talking
about black independence.

Speaker 6 (01:21:35):
That's what this is. Atasha, y'all. Keep with the good fight, folks.

Speaker 8 (01:21:38):
Get a website again for y'all to give the Black
Voters Matter.

Speaker 16 (01:21:42):
Black Votersmatterfund dot org. Black Votersmatterfund dot org.

Speaker 8 (01:21:47):
All right, seen in front of the Supreme Court on Wednesa,
October fifteen.

Speaker 6 (01:21:50):
Ten am.

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Speaker 6 (01:24:12):
What's up, y'all?

Speaker 22 (01:24:13):
This is Wendell Haskins aka Win Hogan at the original
pe Golf Classic, and you know, I watched Roland Martin unfiltered.

Speaker 8 (01:24:28):
Folks and the four was thirty On a thirty summit
in Ohio. Khalul Green may know him as the gen
Z Historian. Uh flip the script in front of more
than two thousand folks. And when he did this, they
were like, Uh, you got to go watch this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Stupidity is killing us.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
Yes, you heard me.

Speaker 23 (01:24:48):
If you're under the age of thirty, the thing that's
most likely to kill you isn't a car accident or cancer.

Speaker 24 (01:24:54):
It's stupidity. And I'll explain.

Speaker 23 (01:24:58):
My name is Khil Green, but I go by the
Historian on social media, and for the past four years,
I've been a full time professional online history educator. This
means I'm just like your high school history teacher, except
I don't wear khakis, a sweater, vest, and a bow tie.
I don't grade your homework. And students don't come to
me because they have to. They come to me because

(01:25:19):
they want to. And the reason that they want to
is because I've learned how to blend entertainment, education and activism.

Speaker 24 (01:25:27):
Now, it wasn't always this way.

Speaker 23 (01:25:29):
When I arrived in college at Yale University, Back in
twenty seventeen, my parents told me that I had to
study computer science if I wanted to be taken seriously,
I had to learn about entrepreneurship and become a founder
or a tech bro or something in between. But after
sitting in on a riveting lecture about the Cold War
in my junior year of college, I changed my academic

(01:25:49):
trajectory entirely. And the reason is because even though the
humanities were devalued by those around me, it was actually
the human part of education, the stories, the people.

Speaker 24 (01:26:01):
The meaning that made me fall in love with history.

Speaker 23 (01:26:04):
And it's those very same principles that are a foundation
of my work today. There got me to work with
some of the leading educational institutions in the world like
the Smithsonian, PBS, and National Geographic And the word brought
me here to you all today to tell you once
again that stupidity is killing us. Now, when I say stupidity,

(01:26:25):
I don't mean silly mistakes that someone makes. I mean
the concept of anti intellectualism. Anti intellectualism is basically when
a society becomes allergic to reason, rationality, and research. Now,
if you're on social media or the Internet, you see
anti intellectual stupid things all of the time. Just this week,

(01:26:49):
you may have heard that tayl Naw causes autism, or
that La boo boos are a better investment than real estate.
But the worst thing about this anti intellectualism is that
the leading cause of death for children in the United
States is a direct consequence of it.

Speaker 24 (01:27:06):
And that's something called gun violence.

Speaker 23 (01:27:09):
Now we all know that America. Now we all know
that America has a problem with guns. Our civilian population
has more guns than any military in the entire world.
This year alone, on average, three point four children have

(01:27:31):
died to gun violence every single day.

Speaker 24 (01:27:34):
In twenty twenty four, there were forty four.

Speaker 23 (01:27:36):
Thousand gun related deaths, and as I was preparing for
this speech, I was hoping that that statistic wouldn't grow.
But this morning, as many of you guys did as well,
I found out that there were three mass shootings yesterday alone,
with a number of deaths, some of them including children.
And it's stupid anti intellectual ideas that keep this crisis going.

(01:28:01):
For example, the idea of thoughts and prayers is a
perfect display of how anti intellectualism blocks solutions to gun violence.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
It's not the.

Speaker 23 (01:28:10):
Same as believing that the earth is flat, but offering
faith based comfort and lieu of direct action after a.

Speaker 24 (01:28:17):
Tragedy is stupid.

Speaker 23 (01:28:20):
Worse yet, is the idea that some gun deaths are
worth it to protect the Second Amendment. That kind of
callousness is also a form of anti intellectualism because it
trades in real solutions for resignation. Manuel and Patricia Olivere
can't afford to think that way because on Valentine's Day

(01:28:43):
in twenty eighteen, their son Joaquin walked into school with
flowers for his girlfriend. Joaquin was young, passionate, and full
of life, but outside of his writing classroom in Parkland, Florida,
his life was cut short by an ar fifteen. Evelyn
Valdez turned twenty eight, and she lived in Miami. She

(01:29:05):
was in love with the city's Windwood Art District, but
just three months ago, three days after a twenty eighth birthday,
police officers were shooting at an armed man, and Evelyn
died when she was caught in the crossfire. Youngest of
all is King Carter. Now King Carter was six years old.
He had a bright smile, and he had dreams of

(01:29:27):
becoming an FBI agent or a football player. One day
he went out to buy candy from the candy lady
and at that time he was killed after a shootout.

Speaker 24 (01:29:39):
Now what can we do about this? Well, I believe
the solution.

Speaker 23 (01:29:43):
Comes from blending the same things that I do every day, activism,
education and entertainment. We have to make knowledge engaging and
we have to turn awareness into action. And that's why
today I've partnered with March for Our Lives, Changed the
ref and a number of other parent and youth led
organizations to announce a new edition of thirty Under thirty

(01:30:07):
thirty victims of gun violence who died under the age
of thirty. This isn't a celebration of who's here today,
but it's a tribute to the people that should be
lives that were cut short before they could accomplish the
sorts of feats that could have landed them on this
very stage, in this very moment. There will be physical
editions of this magazine handed out by volunteers which you

(01:30:28):
can see. But if you want to access it online
any of you can go to thirty under thirty dot
us once again. On your phones, you just type in
three zero under three zero dot us and you'll access
a digital copy of this magazine.

Speaker 24 (01:30:44):
Gun violence can kill anyone here. It can kill you,
it can kill me, can kill anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
That we love.

Speaker 23 (01:30:50):
And as I've made clear that by gun violence is stupid,
that doesn't mean that we have to be The real
question is what we decide right here and right now
that we're smart enough to make a change.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:31:13):
All right, Folks saw the video with Froze there, but
we had the man himself, Khalil Grain here, Glad to
have you here. So Khalil, you had this conversation went about.

Speaker 6 (01:31:23):
Six and a half minutes. Then what the hell happen?

Speaker 23 (01:31:28):
So right after I had the conversation, I went backstage.

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
Everything seemed fine.

Speaker 23 (01:31:35):
All the people who were handlers congratulated me, said I
did a great job. Went to go talk to my friends.
They were telling me I did a great job as well.
I was feeling great. In the middle of a conversation
with my friends, like these two or three guards men
over six foot fall six foot tall, very much over
six foot tall, came up and said you have to
come with us. Looking at me, they took me to
a secluded part of the venue and basically there they

(01:31:59):
said that I would have to have my badge removed.
I brought the badge with me. Here you can see
what it looks like. This badge is what you need
to be in the conference venue. And they said that
they would have to escort me out of the building
because of the speech and allegedly the magazines that were
distributed during it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
So they took me away.

Speaker 23 (01:32:16):
They walked me out of the building and left me
there with no badge, saying that I couldn't get in.

Speaker 6 (01:32:24):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
It absolutely is. It absolutely is.

Speaker 8 (01:32:30):
And while you're there, are you trying to reach organizer
and say, hey, what the hell's going on?

Speaker 6 (01:32:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:32:36):
I mean from there, I can tell the rest of
the story. I basically was talking to some of my friends,
immediately texted them, they came out to meet me. I
texted some of the people that were there who were
part of this project that created the magazine or working
and distributed during the event, and everyone was really shocked
at first. I mean I was invited there as a speaker.
I got the honor of being one of Forbes thirty

(01:32:58):
and thirty honorees, which is something that is very coveted,
very prestigious, and to treat someone who was a speaker,
I mean, I'm sure you've spoken.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
At colleges or universe all the time. Usually you get the.

Speaker 23 (01:33:08):
Absolutely you get the utmost, utmost treatment when you're there,
so to be escorted out for hours after, I got
no communication from anyone at Forbes until the point where
I went public with it and then message people who
I know worked at the company saying that this was
completely unacceptable.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
Why haven't I been reached out to?

Speaker 23 (01:33:27):
Thereafter they set up meeting to me for the next day,
But that entire first day after it happened, I was
in shock and it was just something that I could
have never imagined would come about after speaking on the
stage for a company.

Speaker 6 (01:33:39):
And then all of a sudden they apologized. Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:33:44):
So during the meeting of the next day, I laid
out all of my concerns. They tried to explain what
went wrong. So from their perspective, they said that they
didn't agree with the magazine distribution, that it wasn't cleared.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
I poke holes in that and an article that I
wrote on my letter.

Speaker 23 (01:34:01):
First of but foremost being that there was no process
of clear anything. I was told I had free creative brain.
Mind you, this wasn't a paid speaking gig. Where I
signed a contract and to review anything. They said that
we're bringing you because they like my ideas and they
want to give me a full creative control to give
a tech style presentation on the topic of my choice,
which I did. I think that they probably got cold

(01:34:21):
feet around the political messaging of it all, and that's
what probably prompted them to get scared about it. And
then they later on said that they did direct security
to take away people's magazines, but they did not direct
security to remove me from the premises, that that was
a decision made by the security contractors on their own
and that they had no idea that it happened.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
And when I asked them who made this decision?

Speaker 23 (01:34:45):
How could security contractors that you hired go rogue all
of a sudden to remove me, They said that they
didn't know, and that they were still investigating until this day.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
I don't have an answer, but I mean, at least
I was able.

Speaker 23 (01:34:56):
To make Lemons lemonade at a Lemons and use the
moment to uplo lift the project, which was a magazine
commemorating and celebrating and honoring the lives of thirty young
people who died two gun violence under the age of thirty.

Speaker 8 (01:35:09):
What's crazy to me is again, as you do, like
i've I've spoken all over the world. Security just doesn't
decide to do what the hell they want to do
on their own.

Speaker 6 (01:35:18):
Somebody directs them to do something.

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
Yeah, I mean, it's a huge question mark.

Speaker 23 (01:35:25):
I'm not in this moment, still in the process of
investigating at this point. It's it's in the past in
terms of not that it doesn't affect me and that
I don't want to know what happened. But I've been
able to use the momentum to bring awareness of the project.
That's what matters to me most. It's done and over with.
But as you say, there's still a huge question mark.

(01:35:45):
It was, it's still unacceptable and I still don't have
a resolution on who it was that did this.

Speaker 8 (01:35:51):
Questions that see Nola you first, can you repeat that? Sorry,
now I'm going to question for my panelists.

Speaker 14 (01:35:58):
Nola young Man, you are beyond impressive and brave. Thank
you so very much so. I love that you said
you turned you know, these lemons into lemonade, and you
mentioned momentum.

Speaker 5 (01:36:14):
And as we.

Speaker 14 (01:36:17):
Are moving closer and closer to the kind of deeper trenches,
of authoritarianism, where we're going to see more examples of censorship,
We're going to see more things unfortunately. What happened to
you from your experience, what advice would you give to
people who are speaking and you know, at public engagements

(01:36:40):
and something very similar happens just from your experience recently,
what would you say to the other to others?

Speaker 23 (01:36:48):
Well, first of all, I've actually not gotten asked that
question since this happened. I think it's a great question,
so I just want to say that off the bat. Obviously,
this happened all in the context of the elephant in
the room being mass censorship that we're seeing across the board,
most notably with Jimmy Kimmel being removed from his platform
after what he said regarding Charlie Kirk. And like you said,

(01:37:09):
I mean, it's something that will probably happen more and
more over the next three years. Hopefully not longer, but
definitely over the next three years. And if I had
to give three pieces of advice, the first one would
be just have a community. I told a lot of
my friends as soon as it happened what had happened.
They ran out of the building. They were there to
listen to speakers. Some of them were there to speak themselves,
but they stopped what they were doing to come comfort me,

(01:37:32):
make sure that I was doing okay, as well as
talking to some of even the family members of the
people mentioned the magazine that were not at the venue
but still there cheering me on. Just having that community
as number one. Number two is having a game plan
for accountability for me. Because I am a social media
content creator, I was able to go straight to my
newsletter on substack history Can't Hide and published to over

(01:37:56):
thirty thousand people immediately and subsequently now over a million
piece people that have heard about this story publish and
tell them what had happened to me. So I had
a game plan for accountability that as soon as something
like this would happen, I have a way of making
sure that there was pressure and there was movement and
organizing to make sure the company couldn't just stay silent

(01:38:16):
on what had happened to me and ignore it. But
there were people commenting on their social media, there were
celebrities reposting it on their stories on social media. So
I had a movement and a game plan to hold
the company accountable. And the last thing is just make
sure that you're doing okay yourself, like check it on
your mental health. Because of the initial fervor on social

(01:38:37):
media and the amount of people that were supporting me,
I immediately felt euphoria and that like, okay, like this happened
to me, but I have people who are backing me,
and we're going to turn this into something positive. But
it wasn't until the end of the week when everything
was over, that I really sat down and just realized
how heavy it was. And not even necessarily the actual
removing of me, which was heavy in and of itself,

(01:38:57):
but the content of my speech was about gun violence,
and for the rest of that week, what I had
to do is have so many people come up to
me during the conference asking what happened, and I was
sharing with them my.

Speaker 3 (01:39:09):
Speech and why it mattered, and I was talking about.

Speaker 23 (01:39:11):
The issue of gun violence and kids who were dying
to gun violence repeatedly for like three days straight after
this happened at the scaled that I didn't imagine I
would have to do. And it took me until like
days later the weekend to realize, Okay, like you were
dealing something very heavy, you need to chill. You need
to check it on yourself, because you did a lot
and it's time for you to rest.

Speaker 6 (01:39:34):
Little brother.

Speaker 13 (01:39:36):
I'm so glad you were able to use such a
platform like that to talk about the issue of gun violence.
I'm personally connected to the kids at Parkland and March
for our Lives, being there on the bus with them
that whole first summer at twenty eighteen, so the issue
is extremely close to me. My question here is that
with this added attention, the ultimate goal that you you

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set out was this unique thirty under thirty to highlight
and to memorialize and to draw attention to the dum
violence that is killing people, especially young people.

Speaker 6 (01:40:10):
Where is that movement not.

Speaker 13 (01:40:12):
Just the magazine, but that list and the push there,
Like I know the family and the parents over a
change the ref I know they're willing to. They've done
so many different I don't want to call them stunts,
but just so many different acts of public disruption. What's
the next steps there to continue to drive this awareness
you're getting towards the actual issue.

Speaker 23 (01:40:36):
Well, candidly, it all goes back to how can we
get more people to see this? And I mean this
appearance is definitely one I want to encourage anyone who's
watching me right now to check out the magazine, which
you can go see at.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
Thirty under thirty dot us.

Speaker 23 (01:40:54):
That's the number three zero un d R three zero
dot us. They after the Forbes presentation that I gave,
the organizers actually bought out a or like rented out
a billboard on Times Square in order to project this
and have people there see it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
They posted that on social media.

Speaker 23 (01:41:14):
I believe there was a conference down in Florida with
a lot of the family members of those who are
in this magazine talking about the project. And because it
was only announced a week ago, I mean, the embargo
for journalists to even talk about it was after.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
I gave my speech.

Speaker 23 (01:41:30):
So my speech was the first time that this project
was announced publicly, and that was only about a week ago.
So we're still in full force trying to make sure
that people see this and make sure people realize that
even though we're talking about gun violence as relates to
young people, so much of the media coverage has focused
around school shootings, oftentimes in suburban communities, but within the magazine,
you'll see so many stories of gun violence as it

(01:41:52):
relates to gang violence and suicide and just people being
caught in the crossfires of senseless domestic violence. There's so
many ways in which gun violence affects people. So the
best thing that we can do, like, we can't just
say there's one solution, because it shows up in so
many different ways. The best thing you can do right
now is say, check out the stories, and within the
magazine there are also organizations and solutions that are laid

(01:42:15):
out for all the different ways in which gun violence
can affect someone.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
What's the magazine again, So it's thirty under thirty.

Speaker 8 (01:42:24):
Yeah, it's about what, let's say, thirty underularty dot us
dot us.

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
Yep, and it has the stories of.

Speaker 8 (01:42:37):
Bulk Go to mypan Anthony. So y'all see right there,
thirty under thirty dot us. You see right there, and
then all you have to do is just simply swipe
and then you can actually see all the stories in
the magazine.

Speaker 6 (01:42:54):
Thirty under thirty dot us. Great card.

Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
Thank you Roland, and thank you brother Green.

Speaker 7 (01:43:01):
I'm excited to ask you the question I'm about to
ask given that you've had so many experiences, I mean,
showing up in Yale to do computer science and then
cycling through economics and political science and then finally landing
in history and turn graduates on, turn down a job
at McKenzie too, not joining the evil empire of consulting
classes that you could build your own platform. And please

(01:43:22):
forgive me because I know you the first black person
to be student body president of Yale College. So forgive
me for evoking the specter of Harvard in this regard,
although it might give you an opportunity to get a
few gut punches in. You probably saw the article in
the New York Times earlier this week where a faculty

(01:43:42):
committee found that students at Harvard are skipping classes. They're
failing to do the reading. I think sixty percent of
the grades at Harvard or Yale or a Yale. A
great inflation is there, but that the classroom culture has
is being driven now by inattention, lack of focus, and

(01:44:03):
really zeroing in on devices. As a thinker who has
achieved a great deal of success in cyberspace and who
is using digital media to raise awareness and to teach
and to study, and as one who understands the challenges
that young people have today as it relates to literacy,
any thoughts on how we can get young people and

(01:44:26):
for that matter, everyone who has now got these devices
in our hands to really drill down and regain the
discipline and the stamina to do deep study, particularly as
it relates to reading.

Speaker 23 (01:44:42):
That's also a great question, and it's a question that
I seek to answer with the content that I put out,
because obviously I make educational content. The effects and the
consequences of the pandemic on learning and on people's attention
span cannot be overstated, especially when it comes to students.
The college students that you're seeing right now spent a

(01:45:03):
full year of their K through twelve education just like
not in school, and at the same time probably using
TikTok up to twelve hours per day. So that has
a lasting effect on people's brain chemistry in a very
literal sense, and it means that so many people are
lacking the attention span now to then go into college

(01:45:24):
and open up a huge book. There was not only
the article that you mentioned, but a big one that
came out.

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
Earlier this year.

Speaker 23 (01:45:30):
I want to seeing the Atlantic of the New Yorker
just saying that college kids can't read, and it's very unfortunate.
But I don't think that the way to solve this
problem is to go back to the traditional sort of
trying to force people to remove their devices and open
up a huge book. I just think the tides of
technology and of human progress have gone beyond that. Some

(01:45:51):
people may see that very unfortunately. I do in some
senses and other senses. I think there's an opportunity here,
and I think the opportunity lies in making sure that
we make edge education something that is attention grabbing.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
That was the point of my speech.

Speaker 23 (01:46:04):
I mean, the speech was six minutes, as you guys
all saw, thank you for playing the full thing, and
on social media it has over a million, five hundred
thousand views, with most of those people watching in full
or at least in a large part. And that's a
speech of just me talking of me, telling a story,
sharing some thoughts about gun violence, some stories about people
who are victims of it, and directing people to a

(01:46:25):
way that they can make change. And that's something that
people don't necessarily associate with social media.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
Right.

Speaker 23 (01:46:30):
You might think it just nonsense or dancing videos or fights,
whatever you want to call it. But there's a growing
class of people like me who are educational content creators,
and I think that we're going to be the future,
or at least a model for the future of education,
and that education has to be entertaining and it's maybe
a sad thing for many, but it's the reality. So

(01:46:50):
invest in support educational content creators and that way you
can dissemb the information in a way that's more attention
grabbing and that younger people will gravitate towards.

Speaker 8 (01:47:02):
All right, then well listen, Khalil a great job. Keep
giving them hell and we need more voices out there
doing the work.

Speaker 23 (01:47:11):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me. I super
appreciate it. And once again, please please please go check
out the magazine because the stories in there are very
eye opening and they're soy statistic that I would have
never known without diving into it. And to your point,
it's a great way of learning and an engaging way,
full of stories and full of ways that you can
make an impact as an individual as well.

Speaker 6 (01:47:31):
Okay, I appreciate it. Thank you so very much.

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:47:35):
All right, take care, folks.

Speaker 8 (01:47:36):
We be write back roland Mark Unfiltered on the Blackstard Network.

Speaker 20 (01:47:43):
This week on the Other side of Change, we are
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our everyday lives. Including our pocketbooks.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
These mothers are crazy as they are willing.

Speaker 21 (01:47:53):
To shut down the entire government, the entire government to
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tax breaks for the wealthiest people.

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I remember, she's the one who got a conviction against
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he's been old so pissed off by that, and so
he appointed an airhead to be u It's attorney because
the previous one he fired because he wouldn't prosecute this case.
And James called me, and so as a result, they've

(01:48:53):
now indicted her in Virginia.

Speaker 6 (01:48:55):
'tis James?

Speaker 8 (01:48:56):
She knew this was coming, so therefore she had a
response for this thug.

Speaker 19 (01:49:04):
This is nothing more than a continuation of the President's
desperate weaponization of our justice system.

Speaker 5 (01:49:12):
He is forcing federal law.

Speaker 19 (01:49:13):
Enforcement agencies to do his bidding, all because I did
my job as the New York State Attorney General. These
charges are baseless, and the president's own public statements make
clear that his only goal is political.

Speaker 5 (01:49:30):
Retribution at any cost.

Speaker 19 (01:49:34):
The President's actions are a grave violation of our constitutional
order and have drawn sharp criticism from members of both parties.
His decision to fire a United States attorney who refuse
to bring charges against me and replace them with someone
who is blindly loyal not to the law but to

(01:49:55):
the President is antithetical to the bedrock principles of our country.
This is the time for leaders on both sides of
the isle to speak out against this blatant perversion of
our system of justice. I stand strongly behind my offices

(01:50:15):
litigation against the Trump Organization. We conducted a two year
investigation based on the facts.

Speaker 5 (01:50:24):
And evidence, not politics.

Speaker 19 (01:50:29):
Judges have upheld the trial court's finding that Donald Trump,
his company, and his two sons liable for fraud. I'm
a proud woman of faith, and I know that faith
and fear cannot share the same space, and so today
I'm not fearful.

Speaker 5 (01:50:50):
I'm fearless.

Speaker 19 (01:50:52):
And as my faith teaches me, no weapon formed against
me shall prosper. We will fight these baseless charges aggressively,
and my office will continue to fiercely protect New Yorkers
and their rights, and I will continue to do my job.

Speaker 8 (01:51:11):
No shock this happened today in New York Times has
a story talking about all the black people who Donald
Trump has been going after Nola. Listen, he don't like
black folks. The folks he's in the fire and left
and right are black folks. So it's no shock. He's
going after Tiss James because she hil him account as
she said.

Speaker 6 (01:51:30):
They've affirmed his conviction.

Speaker 8 (01:51:33):
And that's what that thug that convicted felon and cannot stand.

Speaker 5 (01:51:38):
Absolutely.

Speaker 14 (01:51:39):
You know, it's the audacity of how dare you challenge
this rich white man and then you humiliate him and
you you know, you actually win. And it has nothing
to do with the fact that he violated the law.

Speaker 5 (01:51:55):
It's just all.

Speaker 14 (01:51:56):
About how dare you black person, especially black woman. And
you know, this isn't anything that we are talking about
that that isn't already out there for people to see
and plane sight.

Speaker 5 (01:52:11):
Even before.

Speaker 14 (01:52:14):
We got here, he was showing us what he was
going to do, especially in terms of you know, how
he was going to retaliate.

Speaker 5 (01:52:23):
With Fannie Willis. You know the list, The list can
go on.

Speaker 14 (01:52:27):
So where we are right now, it's not a shock
to anyone that's here tonight. But here is my concern.
My concern is this, while we knew this was coming,
none of this is a shock. What is going to
be done about it to protect us from his perceived

(01:52:48):
slights or his retribution campaigns, you know, all the things.
This is exhausting, Roland, and it is It's creeping in
to different parts of everyday life and how black people
are being treated. People think that because they have permission

(01:53:09):
from the top, that they can talk to us any
kind of way, they can dismiss us because Donald Trump doesn't.
So my concern is this, and my question is, I
guess hypothetical, what is to be done about this? I
thought we were protecting minority. This is definitely Greg's territory.

Speaker 6 (01:53:31):
But no, we protected minority. We an't protecting minority.

Speaker 8 (01:53:36):
Listen, Listen, Greg, we all saw this, but we all
saw this coming.

Speaker 6 (01:53:43):
Listen.

Speaker 8 (01:53:46):
I'm gonna use a sports analogy and again I'm gonna
go back.

Speaker 6 (01:53:50):
To what Berry Switzer one said.

Speaker 8 (01:53:52):
He said, if we run the wishbone the way we
are supposed to run the wishbone, there's nothing you can.

Speaker 6 (01:53:58):
Do to stop it. He said nothing. Vince Lombardi the sweep.

Speaker 8 (01:54:05):
This Lobarty could teach the sweep for eight straight hours,
and they, the Green Bay Packers, ran that sweep every
single time. You know what, you couldn't stop it. This
man showed us us his evil for four years. Then
he announced this is what I'm gonna do and bring

(01:54:25):
my evil back.

Speaker 6 (01:54:27):
People said, cool, we liked it. Evil. Now he gets in.

Speaker 8 (01:54:32):
They gave us a one thousand dollars evil playbook that again.

Speaker 6 (01:54:37):
I'm gonna stick with sports.

Speaker 8 (01:54:39):
That's the equivalent of Bear's what to say here, I'm
giving y'all a playbook, not in the week before the game.
I'm They started Project twenty twenty five. Jonathan swan or
Swing whatever with Axios wrote a story. In two thousand
and twenty one. We did the story. We did it

(01:55:03):
on this show. In twenty twenty, New York Times did
a story. So they told us they handed us to playbook.
Three years, we're gonna do all of this, And folks said, yeah, okay,
we're good, come on back Donald, So, Greg, nobody should

(01:55:24):
be shocked what we're seeing happened because they literally said it.
The Supreme Court gave him a further green light by
basically saying, you got immunity and you can do whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
The hell He wasn't even in the oval office.

Speaker 8 (01:55:44):
The case they ruled on wasn't even a case that
dealt with his actions in office.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
They said, hey, man, you.

Speaker 8 (01:55:52):
Got you got blanket immunity, and he went, oh shit,
Oh I'm good. And they said, oh, we about to
run the fucking table. Oh we about to do?

Speaker 6 (01:56:07):
We going?

Speaker 8 (01:56:08):
He said, I'm going after your ass. I'm going after
your ass. I'm going after your ass. I'm firing y'all,
I'm doing tars. We don't give a shit. We're gonna
disobey your orders. We don't give a damn. He gets said,
I don't give a damn. If you a federal judge
and you rule against us, we gonna ignore you. They
say it, all of this, Greg, all of it ain't

(01:56:33):
nothing a shock with what they don't.

Speaker 7 (01:56:37):
Well, yeah, I would agree. What do you always say?
What did you say? Latasha tonight, Roland. When we vote
our numbers, we win let's continue that analogy, all of
it true. And what happens when the people you gave
the playbook too, the people you keep one of these

(01:56:58):
winning plays against, you drugged them, you disoriented them. I
have to agree. I have to disagree with my brother Khalil.
Hopefully he'll come to see it, because I suspect the
same problem at Harvard is at Yale student's not reading
and going to class. I understand using the technology. I
embrace using the technology, but nothing, absolutely nothing will ever

(01:57:19):
replace the power of slow creative study. I'm sorry, but
that haven't been said. After all, I did go to Yale.
They didn't go to TikTok University. But the point is
that what happens if you give that playbook to people
you have to use the Nation of Islam language hoodwin, bamboozo,
run them up, led as stray. Then you're not really
fighting an opponent that is at full strength. You're giving

(01:57:40):
the playbook to an opponent who is disoriented and weakened.
Plus we consume in whatever garbage they feeding us. Now,
what would happen if you gave that same playbook using
your observation? And when we vote, we win. When we
organize we win, and Latasha just said the same thing,
and clip what happens if you give that same playbook
to your opponent who is at full strength that point,

(01:58:00):
we don't even want to see your plays because we're
going to roll over you like sea.

Speaker 1 (01:58:04):
And I think you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:58:06):
So they are under the illusion that they have strength,
and in fact, let me take that back rolling and
they're not under that illusion anymore. That's why you see
Bozo surrounded by his sicker fans like he did today,
saying we're bringing back Columbus Day. It's back, and they
all start clapping, and little Marco, who has embarrassed himself,
the cock rooster of Pete Hexith, the little runt rooster
dei Higher.

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
They are scared now because.

Speaker 7 (01:58:31):
They're realizing that the medicine and the drugging that they've
been doing giving us over this last couple of generations
is wearing off and so as a result, there's no
play they can run that can defeat us. And this
and this James example is another example. Komy is getting
ready to eat their lunch. Yep, Komi's going to eat their.

Speaker 1 (01:58:50):
Lunch, and so is she when and read I read
the complaint.

Speaker 7 (01:58:54):
I see what they did, little hoodwin thing about mortgage
fraud and bank fraud. First of all, and you probably
saw this article rolling was in Newsweek Nick Ackerman, who
was a former Watergate attorney, and it was Mandy to
Harry writing. She told Newsweek earlier this week, before the
Koma arrangement, that Lindsey Halligan may be playing a very.

Speaker 1 (01:59:17):
Dangerous game with regard to her law license.

Speaker 7 (01:59:20):
Yep, this former insurance lawyer who is one of Donald
Trump's spokesmodels. I'll keep the blue language. I mean, there's
another word. I would think that may begin with an
H and N with an S sephoria letter word H
O E S. How many that's four letters? Anyway, one
of his spokesmodel lawyers likes them.

Speaker 5 (01:59:41):
But she playing with.

Speaker 7 (01:59:42):
Her law license by filing cases that have no legal
basis to be filed with regard to Tis.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
James, when you look at this indict.

Speaker 7 (01:59:52):
Yeah, what you see is right, yes, sir, there it
is right there there it is.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
She could lose her law license. See, they playing nasty
games here and.

Speaker 8 (02:00:03):
They're so stupid. Guess who lost his law license? Rue
Giuliani Juliana didny.

Speaker 1 (02:00:09):
No questions a whole bunch of questions.

Speaker 8 (02:00:11):
Who were defending Trump with the lively twenty twenty. They
ain't got no law license today. So you a dumb
ass running behind his ass, and guess what he can't.
He can't, y'ard you, He can't pardon you to keep
your license.

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
No question.

Speaker 7 (02:00:28):
And you saw what happened earlier in the week when
Stephen Miller got so hyped up on his own juice
that he out there saying and the president has plenary powers.
And then you saw somebody over the camera like and
so Stephen, Steve. Yeah, see, you got loose nuts running
around thinking they got a better team than they have.

Speaker 1 (02:00:46):
But remember Rolan, you remember it.

Speaker 7 (02:00:48):
Remember when Bear Bryant and Universus of Alabama played Southern
California and Randall Cunningham's brother, Sam Bam Cunningham ran all
over there segregated asses, and Bear Bryant was like Bear
Bryant sent for Sam Cunningham, the black running back at
USC and Cunningham writes about this, Sam Cunningham, nun brother
brings him to the Alabama football the locker and says

(02:01:10):
to him in front of all these white players, just
what a football player looks like and now you go
to the University of Alabama and they got a team
of black people and they act as if somehow they
were a superior team then and now, No, we weren't
playing at strength.

Speaker 1 (02:01:25):
When you bring us in, we beat you. Now.

Speaker 7 (02:01:27):
When it comes to Tis James, it's not at all
clear the details of this. Was she getting this second
house for her niece, That's what it looks like it
might have been. But what is clear is this, you
have someone in her office, in the attorney office in Virginia,
the Federal Attorney's office, who prepared a report for Halligan,

(02:01:51):
and she was preparing to share this report with Halligan.
There's been all this terminal to say there's no probable cause.
Her name was Virginia, right, Elizabeth U s Elizabeth UC
had determined this no probable cause.

Speaker 1 (02:02:04):
Then you remember Eric Siebert.

Speaker 7 (02:02:06):
Who was Halligan's predecessor, was removed because he would not
bring charges against Komye, and James Maya Song, who was
one of his top deputies, was also fired.

Speaker 6 (02:02:16):
The security will put their name on this.

Speaker 1 (02:02:20):
She had to do it, not gonna touch it.

Speaker 8 (02:02:21):
No US attorney goes into court, goes before grand jury,
present in the case themselves.

Speaker 6 (02:02:27):
They were like, Nah, babe, we ain't touching this. It's
on you.

Speaker 1 (02:02:29):
We ain't touching this.

Speaker 6 (02:02:31):
He's on you.

Speaker 1 (02:02:32):
And you were about to lose your license.

Speaker 7 (02:02:34):
And so finally I'll say this, and where I hear
where you were going, Nolan, I appreciate this. That discrete
and insular minorities language we use. That protected class language
comes from a footnote in the famous Caroline Products case
in the nineteen thirties where they say these are the
protected classes. It was an afterthought really from the court,
from the Supreme Court. But I said, in the context

(02:02:54):
of this, and this is what I was asking Latasha,
it is at moments like this in American history that
black people get super creative and explode this thing. I'm saying, now,
it's time for us to go back to what we
may be veered away from in the nineteen fifties and sixties.
We put all our legal battles in the basket of

(02:03:15):
equal protection. All are in the area of there's a
norm that we're trying to become a part of, when
in fact, there is a case to be made that
what white people are doing now is trying to create
themselves as a protected class. It's a novel legal theory.
But if we begin pursuing that, particularly as a demographics change,

(02:03:35):
I'm telling y'all the federal cost what did Malcolm X say?
There's no new law. In other words, the fourteenth Amendment
is there, the fifteenth members is. What has changed over
the years is how judges interpret that law. I'm telling
y'all it's time for us to now create a new
heroic age, revive ourselves, and go after these white boys
the way we need to fight them. And I think
the argument to be made, whether it wins now or ultimately,

(02:03:59):
it will win in the law.

Speaker 1 (02:04:00):
White people are.

Speaker 7 (02:04:01):
Trying to create themselves as a protected class and there
is no constitutional defense for whiteness as a protected class. Now,
they're gonna beat it down in the short term, but buddy,
I'm telling you the long term, we're gonna look back
at this and say, this is the moment when we
saved ourselves.

Speaker 1 (02:04:16):
I don't know about America.

Speaker 7 (02:04:17):
I could give a damn about America, but this might
be the moment we finally realized that we just night
have to have it out with these white boys. And
I think at that point they can run whatever play
they want, we're gonna roll over them, like to see
in camera.

Speaker 8 (02:04:27):
And that's why in two thousand and nine when I
saw it, I literally saw it and I said, point
blank what we're facing. And I said we I'm standing
at CNN John Avon and I are about to go
on the air.

Speaker 6 (02:04:39):
He's now in Congress.

Speaker 8 (02:04:41):
I said, John, we are living right now in the
beginning stages of white minority resistance.

Speaker 6 (02:04:48):
And he was like, huh.

Speaker 8 (02:04:49):
I said, I'm telling you, John, it's right here, and
on the show in speeches, I was saying this in
two thousand and nine, twenty ten, twenty eleven, thousand, well,
twenty thirteen, on and on and on. Wrote the book
in twenty twenty, dropped it in twenty twenty two, and
I kept telling people, because what we are seeing, you

(02:05:10):
got white folks, certain white folk in this country.

Speaker 6 (02:05:13):
They are angry about again, Civil Rush.

Speaker 8 (02:05:16):
After sixty four, Voter to rush after sixty five, Fair
Housing Actors sixty.

Speaker 6 (02:05:20):
Eight, they're angry about that.

Speaker 8 (02:05:22):
They were pissed off with the third reconstruction that came
along with the death of George Floyd because they they
were pissed off with these companies that were talking about
fifty sixty seventy one hundred billion dollars going to black interest.
The Black Lives Matter movement was the first movement in
American history, but black people were centered that a majority

(02:05:43):
of Americans agreed with. These white folks said, oh, hell no,
we can't have this. You had these white kids who
were learning the real history, not that history crap. So
they said no, no, no, no, we got to take.

Speaker 1 (02:05:54):
The books out.

Speaker 8 (02:05:54):
No, we can't have Tony Morrison, we can't have tannahe
See coaches, we can't have Lauren Bennet, we can't have
all these other books now in these libraries.

Speaker 6 (02:06:03):
No, no, So what do they do when after the books?
What do they do?

Speaker 8 (02:06:07):
The Black Lives Matter in twenty twenty one attacked them viciously.
Twenty twenty two was critical race theory, which if you
didn't you didn't go to law school, you know what
the hell that was. But they understood and christ Ma
Rufo literally put it in a tweet, we want to
group everything that's black under the CRT banner. It don't
even matter twenty twenty three, and it was it was

(02:06:30):
who twenty twenty four, it was DEI because what their
whole deal is about, Oh, no, we're losing out. We're
losing things in this country. That's all they're doing. So
what Greg is laying out is absolutely right. What they
are trying to say is woe is oh they are
using the eighteen sixty six Civil Rights at filing lawsuits
saying these things are discriminatory against white people. That's literally

(02:06:55):
what Ed Bloom is doing, saying, oh, this discriminates against us.
Two white boys in Indiana suit the federal DBE program
saying the federal dB program is the scribatory against us.
Black people get less than two percent of all federal contracts.
How in the hell is a discriminatory against y'all. It's

(02:07:17):
a thirty seven billion dollar program, but the total federal
government spend is seven hundred billion.

Speaker 6 (02:07:23):
So they hold deal list no, no, no, willn't even.

Speaker 8 (02:07:26):
And of the thirty seven billion, seventy eight thirty seven
billion of the white women, so non white people only
are receiving twenty two of the thirty seven billion dollars.

Speaker 6 (02:07:39):
These white folks like, hmm, we want it all.

Speaker 8 (02:07:42):
And a great point they're trying to say, oh this
is now we are now discriminated against, we are now
being harmed we are now being hurt.

Speaker 13 (02:07:53):
You're right on point, Roland. I think the thing that
we have to realize is that with Leticia Jane, with
so many of these other folks that are across the
agencies that are being taken out. We've seen the three
hundred thousand plus black women who've lost their jobs. They
are trying to and everything that they're doing is getting

(02:08:14):
challenged in court. I would say some of them are women,
some of them are losing. It doesn't matter. This is
an all out. To use your sports analogy, this is
an all out blitz followed by an all out blitz,
followed by an all out blitz, followed by an all
out blitz in a sack to the point that what
does get what the course may uphold, they might be
a few of those things, but we don't. It's it's

(02:08:37):
the first front line. It's not the retraction, it's not
the apology. They don't care about that. They're throwing as
many things at the wall. And it's been said by
so many people to your point, the Steven Miller's of
the world, Trump like you said, Trump gave us the playbook.
He spent four years on TV, social media, everywhere he
could to say, hey, I'm coming after these people. He's like, hey,

(02:08:58):
I'm turning my Justice Department into a vendetto department. Made it,
made it hyper clear into your until you made it.
Also the good point that all those lawyers that are
worth their weight that understand, hey, I need to have
a job whenever this Trump stuff is over, so I
can't lose my law license. I'm not about to put
my name on this. All right, gun, you're fired into

(02:09:20):
all right. Anybody who's just hey, I might have made
a promise to Donald Trump. Maybe they think this is
how they gain favorite. This is how they think they're
getting part of his multi billion dollar scheme to rip
off America.

Speaker 6 (02:09:31):
And maybe I'll get a few dollars off of that.

Speaker 13 (02:09:33):
I'll put my name on something like this. But they're
coming for our tip people.

Speaker 8 (02:09:37):
And then and then that's why he went after the
law firms. He said, I'm gonna attack your money. See,
that's what people don't understand. This is what people don't
drives me crazy.

Speaker 6 (02:09:51):
Great. People don't get.

Speaker 8 (02:09:54):
There's only one federal agency that shares along with the
White House.

Speaker 6 (02:09:57):
Y'all won one Treasury.

Speaker 8 (02:10:03):
Y'all need to understand the White House, power, Treasury, money power, money,
money power. So Donald Trump knew, Oh, this is how
I can bring all of my perceived enemies to their knees,

(02:10:24):
to make them bend over, to make them blow me,
to make them kiss my ass, lick my toes, kiss
my ring. I'm gonna go after your money. So what
did he do with the law firms. I'm taking your
security clearance. Oh now you can't represent these clients. Now
you can't represent these cases.

Speaker 6 (02:10:43):
Y'all.

Speaker 8 (02:10:44):
Do you understand if you're in a law firm, you
know what the most important thing. Not one client, not
somebody paying who's no, no, no, no, no, no no, it's
those no, no, no, I ain't buildable hours. It's the
retainer fees. Oh every month, we're getting one hundred thousand,

(02:11:08):
two hundred thousand, five hundred thousand the retainer fees. So
Donald Trump said, I'm gonna attack the money. So all
of those law firms said, oh shit, okay, we'll cut
a deal.

Speaker 6 (02:11:21):
We'll cut a deal.

Speaker 8 (02:11:22):
He's like, oh, no, part of the deal is you're
going to defend my interest.

Speaker 6 (02:11:28):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (02:11:29):
Small firms are the ones that fought back. Major law firms.
They bent the knee. So then he said, okay, Columbia, Harvard,
I'm going after your research money. I'm gonna sit here. Oh, okay, Harvard,
it's cool, y'all can't exist with our international students. I'm

(02:11:51):
gonna stop them from coming. That's what a school's at.
So now what a Gavin Newsom said? Gavin Newsom said,
point back. He said, I dare he's he said, I dare.
He said, I dare a California school.

Speaker 6 (02:12:05):
Buckle.

Speaker 8 (02:12:07):
He said, you think you're gonna lose federal funding. You
can't exist without state funding. I dare you to buckle.
So he went after the schools. That's what he's doing.
So he understood. This is what these evil people understood, Greg.
They understood America is a capitalistic system. And people can

(02:12:30):
claim they love freedom, they can claim they love their guns,
they can claim they love freedom of speech, but ain't
nothing Americans, especially white Americans, care.

Speaker 6 (02:12:45):
More about than money.

Speaker 8 (02:12:48):
And right now there are progressive billionaires who are scared.
Bezos got fu money of the owners of Google. F
you money, a bird, f you money. But Trump said
I can't go after your money. So Bezos, I could
sit here and lean on the postal service and jack

(02:13:10):
up the fields.

Speaker 6 (02:13:11):
So guess what then happens.

Speaker 8 (02:13:13):
Guess what then happens, Jeff, when you said one of
these packages, I'm a triple, quadruple the price, I'm gonna
mess with your stock price, all of them. So he
went after the money, and that's how he got them
to bend the knee, because America, it's about the money.

Speaker 7 (02:13:35):
Greg, You're right, Roland, I think, and you know, I
wish Nola would weigh in on this.

Speaker 8 (02:13:43):
She got to go, so Greg, make your point. Well,
let make a last point. She claimed She's gonna finit
some gumbo, but we'll then.

Speaker 1 (02:13:51):
I'm gonna hurry up.

Speaker 7 (02:13:52):
The United States is in the world and the global economy,
whether it be t Move, whether it be Amazon, as
the only game in the world, and they want to
be globally dominant. I think in the short term they
thought there were still some guardrails and there was still
some norms, so they were willing to go along. But
as this thing is unfolded and it's clear, two things
are clear. First of all, Trump is mainly unwell, and

(02:14:14):
who knows how long he's gonna even be alive, So
I mean there's that, and then all the forces that
put in the batteries in his back. You got a
full bread racist and fascists in terms of Steve Miller
and Steve Bannon and them. Then you got musking them
boys and Peter TiAl and their hand pickman Cheerion candidate
junior varsity vans, who's chomping to get in the chair.
They got their own interest. It's falling apart. It's unsustainable.

(02:14:36):
The more desperate they get, the more the money people
are like, especially since the world is now working on
workarounds Shinbaum in Mexico, Canada making deals with the EU,
Brazil emerging as a market for soybeans, even as they
just sent twenty billion dollars because Steve because Bessant got
a friend down there who put all this money into
Argentinian economy, and now they're gonna repurpose that money. And

(02:14:56):
then Mississippi and Midwest farmers got to eat them. Damn Soydban.
The money boys now are realizing wait, they're getting ready
to destabilize the entire global market. So as a result,
things are beginning to loosen up. If they've struck a
deal in Israel, it ain't got nothing to do with
the Palestinians.

Speaker 1 (02:15:13):
It ain't got nothing to do with more rale.

Speaker 7 (02:15:15):
The money boys remember Jerry Kirshner showed up in Cairo
earlier this week. The money boys are like, this is
terrible for business, and BB we back you because you
got us by the genitals. But right now you are
a pariah state and you're about to mess with our
money because the Saudi's are in here now, Kattur is
in here now. Koto then gave this fool a plane

(02:15:35):
and basically bought the presidency of the United States. The
money is cooling to the idea of domestic us nativism,
and as a result, I think there's an opening here
for us perhaps to make some advancement, to pull this
maniac back from the brink. But I do think you're
right about the money boys. I just think that that's
a conversation that has to be had in a global context,

(02:15:56):
not just the four corners of the.

Speaker 6 (02:15:57):
New and the Nola.

Speaker 8 (02:15:59):
The reason America's that had so strong in the farm
policy areas because of the money. But when, yes, but
when Nola, when all of a sudden, when you calls
other countries to start saying we're going to bypass y'all,
and y'all, y'all are actually dependent your thirty trillion dollar
US economy. It's actually dependent upon our spending as well.

(02:16:22):
And then we can bypass y'all. Oh yeah, the crying
will commence, So no loa, go ahead, make you coming
before you got.

Speaker 14 (02:16:28):
To go absolutely and let me just let me just
be very clear about this, or just had a Kamala
Harris moment.

Speaker 1 (02:16:34):
Let me be clear.

Speaker 14 (02:16:37):
You know, the rest of the world was already kind
of cooling on us to begin with. I'll give you
an example. You know, the way that China does business
is through development. The way we do businesses through security.
And there is a case with Nizere We had a
security cooperation agreement with them, and they did not like
the way that we were doing business.

Speaker 5 (02:16:56):
So they told us peace.

Speaker 14 (02:16:58):
They said, y'all just come in here acting us like
the French colonizers. Why should we continue to do business
with you. So my point is this, before we got
to where we are now, to where you know, at
least three toes are in hell, you know, the waters
were already cooling towards you. As everything right, our partners

(02:17:19):
and allies were already kind of like side eyeing US. Yes,
working with US on things like Ukraine and other projects.
But Europe was already talking about its own security for
quite some time. What the Trump administration in these what
ten months has done has just escalated that conversation because

(02:17:41):
people are starting to look around the world. They're looking
at different stock markets, you know, they're looking at their
bank statements, they're looking at the fact that the US
dollar is weakening. Let me say that again, the US
dollar is weakening. I remember as a very very very
very young undergrad where everyone was worried because you know,

(02:18:03):
the EU had its own currency, and they were proclaiming
that the EU was our enemy because they wanted to
replace the American dollar. Well, here we are, America. We're
doing it ourselves. We're doing it to our own currency, right,
we are devaluing everything. And so I had a conversation recently,
this is the last thing I'll say before before I
got to go and not cook gumbo roland Is. I

(02:18:26):
was having a conversation with an ambassador recently and she said,
the question she keeps going to is this, what is
the end goal? Like, you know, they came in saying
they wanted to affect all this change all the bs I,
they said, all the things right, but everything is an
absolute disaster. They do not know how to govern. We've

(02:18:47):
been saying that, we warned people about that. What is
the end goal in all of this chaos? Where are
we going with this? By completely destroying our reputation around
the world.

Speaker 6 (02:18:59):
That then go that's the end goal. They actually what
the end goal is.

Speaker 8 (02:19:04):
The end goal is to completely completely destroy so many
facetests of the government that they lose in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 6 (02:19:17):
It's you can't you can't even put things back in
four years. So that's the whole design.

Speaker 8 (02:19:23):
Listen, these silicon these Silicon Valley boys, they want no regulation.
So their whole deal is we want to come destroy
as much as we can. So essentially what they want
to do to America is what BB did to Gaza.

Speaker 6 (02:19:39):
I'm gonna blow everything up and then.

Speaker 8 (02:19:43):
Y'all figure out what y'all gonna do afterwards, because that's
what they want to Greg's point, go to my iPad.
Big investors await windfall from Trump's Argentina bailout. Where are
all the conservatives who said stop spending money on foreign governments.

Speaker 6 (02:19:57):
It's amazing how quiet they are billion dollars. So that's all.
We know what this game is.

Speaker 8 (02:20:03):
But the bottom line is this here what we have
to do. And again what Latasha say. The way you
stop this evil you can actually vote them out.

Speaker 6 (02:20:17):
You can be Elon Musk and.

Speaker 8 (02:20:19):
You can have forty five billion, whatever, you can own Twitter,
you can do whatever. But guess what, you only get
one vote. We can throw these assholes out. We can
actually disrupt the system. We can shut all that down. Now,
gonna do it. We're still on that couch.

Speaker 6 (02:20:36):
NOA.

Speaker 8 (02:20:37):
I appreciate it. Greg, I appreciate it. Cameron, I appreciate
you on the show as well. Y'all listen, I'm trying
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If y'all think I'm lying Anthony, you can go to
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Speaker 6 (02:20:52):
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Come on, I'm.

Speaker 8 (02:20:55):
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So your support of our show is critical. Listen, I
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