Louisiana Voting Rights SCOTUS Battle, Trump Firing Spree, U.S. Open Racism, Emmett Till 70th

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Today's Thursday, August twenty eight, twenty twenty five, coming up
on Roland Martin on Filter streaming live on the Black
Star Network. Boy, the white Republicans in Louisiana are crazy.
They're taking their fight over voting rights straight to the
US Supreme Court. They're trying to gut a keep revision
of the Voting Rights Act because they do not want to
see black people get a second congressional district.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
They lost once, now they're trying to go back again.
Active was Gary Chambers will be here to talk about
this very issue, folks.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Seventy years ago on this day, Emmittial was lynched in Mississippi.
Sixty two years ago on this day, River doctor Martin
Luther King Jr. Gave his famous I Have a Dream speech. Well,
today there was a dead prayer here in the nation's capital,
Pastor Jamal Bryant, Pastor.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
William Lamar of course here at a church in d C.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
And Reverend Al Sharpton had a protest on Wall Street
in New York as well.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
We'll show you a little bit of both. Also, Donald Trump, Yeah,
he keep firing people.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
This time.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
The Surface Red Tresputation Board member Robert primus.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Hmm. Could it be his stance on a merger that
got him fired? Us open a French player, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Racist make some remarks after she got ass kicked by
America Taylor Townsend who fired back, who said, Oh, I.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Want all the smoke mm hmm, all the.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Smoke lots to talk about, and it's time to bring
the funk on rolling Mark on Fils the Black Start Network.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
He's selling it what he.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Believes.

Speaker 6 (01:53):
He's right on top and best believe he's going.

Speaker 7 (02:00):
To houst to politics with entertainment.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Just bookcase.

Speaker 6 (02:11):
It's rolling. He's booky stress, she's real. The question though,
he's rolling.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Now, Folks Louisiana, they already lost in a Supreme Court
over the creation of a second black congressional district.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
They've had their state maps struck down.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
These racist white white Republicans in Louisiana. They do not
want to see black people get any political power in Louisiana.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
But guess what they now have done.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
They now gone back to the Supreme Court now wanting
them to strike down a provision the Voting Rights Act.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
But they also are arguing that, oh no.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
There should be no use of race in any redistricting decision. Now,
here's the problem. Problem is this here Supreme Court is
looking at it. If the Supreme Court rules in Louisiana's favor,
this could literally wipe out half of all.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Of the corrosional Black Caucus.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Now, in a recent legal brief, Louisiana called on the
Court to overturn Thornbook Thorn Bird versus Gingles. Now, this
landmark nineteen eighty six ruling has long required states to
draw legislative baps that fairly represent minority voters where racially
polarized voting exists.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Louisiana say they are not going to defend their own
current congressional map, even though they were just defending those
coressional maps.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
That map includes two majority black districts. I'm on the
state's six congressional seats. Activist Gary Chambers junior Jonas right now, Gary,
glad to have you back on the show.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
So Louisiana is doing the same thing Texas did.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Going Oh, Texas said, oh no, our twenty twenty maps.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
We then use race.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Trump says, oh, they were drawing illegally using race, and
Texas goes, okay, we gotta change them.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
So Louisiana. So tell me the Louisiana Attorney General was
literally just defending the very maps that they now say
they're not going to defend.

Speaker 8 (04:42):
Thank you, as always rolling for illuminating the issues here
in Louisiana. Attorney General Liz Morell has basically done. If
you were someone who was on trial for murder and
you had a lawyer that all of a sudden went
to the judge and said, my clients said they were
not guilty, but I'm going to say that they're guilty

(05:03):
and change the plea. That is what Liz Morel has
done in the middle of the stream. In March, she
went before the Supreme Court to defend the maps that
were drawn that gave Louisiana.

Speaker 9 (05:13):
Two black majority congressional districts.

Speaker 8 (05:15):
And now she has submitted a brief to the Supreme
Court saying that when she comes to the Court in
October that she believes that provisions of the voting rights
that should be struck down and that we should not
have racialized districting because she believes that that is racist.
The problem is that there has never been a time
in America where racially polarized voting did not exist.

Speaker 9 (05:36):
Racially polarized voting still exists.

Speaker 8 (05:38):
And we know that because the Fifth Circuit just gave
a ruling several weeks ago where it highlighted the race
where I was in in twenty twenty two against Luke
mixing here. And there's a portion of that ruling that
lays out that even when you segregate the conversation to
just Democrats, that sixty percent of white voters voting for
the white candidate camps that sixty percent of white candidate's

(06:01):
voted for the white candidate, and that forty voted for
the black candidate, and that seventy six percent of black
voters voted for the black candidate. What that tells us
is that people are still voting based on their race,
because this state continues to deny black people because of
their race.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Okay, and so what's crazy here.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Which which is again just completely nonsensical, is Louisiana is
trying another body of the apple. Because they got rejected
and they tried everything they would, they went back to
the Fifth Circuit, and the Fifth Circuit rule in favor
and back for back for in the Supreme courts like no,

(06:41):
hell no, no, hell no, it violates Section then it
was like, okay, fine, it violates Section two, so we
got to go ahead and do it, same as Alabama.
So these white Republicans Louisiana, they mentioned they have tried
everything not to create this second district.

Speaker 8 (06:57):
They've tried everything not to create it. The district was
created under Jeff Landry. Jeff Landry never wanted to give
us a second majority black congressional district. Liz Morell said
in this briefing that she gave that she defended this
case in March, but she never changed her original position
that these maps should not have been drawn. These maps

(07:19):
and this decision is the most important conversation that should
be happening in America. I know that folks are talking
about Texas, Gavin Newsom's making noise in California. But if
Gavin didn't come into Louisiana, if Prinzer isn't coming to Louisiana,
if they aren't making noise about what I consider the
factory of current modern day white supremacy, if they are
coming to the ground zero to come and see how

(07:41):
do you make an impact where there are four million people,
where you get a lower cost per vote to turn
the vote in Louisiana. Then you do in Texas, then
you do in Georgia, then you do in North Carolina,
then you do in Pennsylvania or Wisconsin. Yet there's never
been a serious attempt to do work in Louisiana. Yet
Kevin Rogers from the Heritage Foundation Lafayette, Louisiana born and raised,

(08:02):
went to the University of Louisiana and Lafayette wrote his
dissertation on slavery. When you go back to Mike Johnson
and Steve Scalice bit in Louisiana, meditary Louisiana running the
United States House of Representatives, helping move the.

Speaker 9 (08:17):
Agenda of Project twenty twenty five.

Speaker 8 (08:20):
And then you look at Jeff Landry and the cadre
that supports him in liz Morell his hitch person in
the Attorney General office has one of the most consequential
cases in the history of our country before our Supreme
Court and Cavanaugh asking a question talking about a sunset
on the Voting Rights Act, when the reality is when
will there ever be a sunset on racism? And these

(08:42):
folks are talking about places other than Louisiana, It is
mind blowing to me. Rowland, it is mind blowing that
the Democratic Party has encamped out in Louisiana, made serious
investment in this state to show people that this is
where the bigotry that we are trying to root out
of this country is being orchestrated from. And if we
solve it here, we can begin to uproot it in

(09:03):
the rest of the country.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Who is the head of Louisiana Democratic Party currently?

Speaker 8 (09:10):
It is a brother by the name of Randall Gaines,
Woma State represented.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Where's he?

Speaker 9 (09:18):
Good question?

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I mean, I'm.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Just being honest.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I've never received like, if I pull it up right now,
this right here, I'm gonna go to my iPad.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
This is Louisian Democrats. It says party.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Leaders chair, it is Randall Gaines, and then it says
Conson klill Fields. It says Cominson Troy Carter, Senator Gerald Boudreau,
a Representative Matthew Willard House Democratic Caucus Chair. So that
so the top five party leaders in Louisiana are all black, Yes, sir, so.

(10:00):
And I'm just I'm being straight up honest with you. Gary,
You're the only one who's hit me direct trying to
raise these issues. Not a single one of the black
anybody understand, No, go to my iPad. I'm not showing y'all.
This is not the leaders of the Black caucus of

(10:24):
the Democratic Party. No, these are the party leaders of
a Democratic Party in the hole St. Louisiana. They're all
black men. Am I missing something?

Speaker 9 (10:36):
Gary?

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Am I leaving anybody out?

Speaker 8 (10:38):
I think that too often that we believe that we
can get in the room and work a deal with
people who are working against us every single day. Too
often we've went in the room with some of these
same people that are working against us in these Supreme
Court decisions to make deals that were compromising to begin with,
and now we're trying to figure out how not to
have egg on our face before the voters of this state.

(10:58):
The reality is that people have to recognize that I
can't fight a devil that I helped put in position.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Go back to my iPad, y'all.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
This is the Executive Committee of the louis And Democratic Party.
And so you see Randall gains Chair, Katie Darling, his
first vice chair, Kyle Grace's second vice chair, Blinda Davis,
Jeremy J. F. Thompson, c Denise, Marcel, Jean Durant, Dustin Granger,
Laurie Herbert, Attenu Mardre Esmond, Catherine Hirst, Michelle Johnson, Kyle Green,

(11:32):
Lauren Jewett, mel Manuel, and then you keep Leslie Bowie,
Riot Price, Giselle Hawkins, Jay Reagan, Tarka Williams, Jerry Bowman,
Lorie Callis, Jamie Davis, Junior, Vanessa Casting, Lafloor, Corey Smith,
Tia Mills, Matt Wood, j E.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Dubois. If I go to the top here, this.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Is the executive committee one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight nine in eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, sixteen.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Of the people on the Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Democratic Party Execuo Committee of Black and what's crazy, Gary,
I ain't heard from one of these people to talk
about this Supreme Court case that, if successful, could literally
wipe out half of the Congressional Black caucuss are these
people organizing and mobilizing the state.

Speaker 8 (12:29):
Now rolling There are people on that list that are
actively doing work. They don't have the bandwidth or the
platform in some instances. Now there are people that are
not as far with thinking that are part of that leadership,
and I think that they too often stand in the
way of.

Speaker 9 (12:45):
A real aggressive fight because there are.

Speaker 8 (12:48):
Too many people who believe that you can negotiate with terrorists.
If these people continue to put a gun to our
head the way that they do with our rights, why
are we negotiating with them. The other thing to remember,
rolling is if this is effective, this doesn't take us
back to nineteen sixty four.

Speaker 9 (13:02):
This takes us back to eighteen seventy seven at the
end of reconstruction.

Speaker 8 (13:07):
It allows them to eliminate black city council seats. It
will allow them to eliminate black seats in the state legislature.
Not just in Louisiana, This will happen in every state
in America. It will be the only seats and positions
that Black people will be able to hold. Will be
citywide elected as seats or at large positions or mayor's positions.

(13:30):
We will not be in a position to be able
to have district seats, even in majority black cities. And
there was a time in America where that existed for
one hundred plus years for black people in this country.

Speaker 9 (13:43):
And I think that too many of.

Speaker 8 (13:44):
Us have stayed on TikTok too long, listening to informational
videos to people who haven't picked up an encyclopedia that
don't understand the reality of the dangers that we are
facing today.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
This is the ABC News store.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Louisiana urge the Supreme Court to bar use of race
in redistricting in attack on voting rights. Louisiana has abandoned
its defense of a political map that elected two black
members of Congress and instead called on the Supreme Court
to reject any consideration of race in redistricting in the
case that could bring major chains to the Voting Rights Act. Now,

(14:18):
his what's crazy when you look at this here? This
is what UCLA law professor Richard Hassan says. If Louisiana's
argument prevailed at the Supreme Court, it would almost certainly
lead to a wider and less representative Congress, as well
as significantly less minority representation across the country in legislatures,

(14:41):
city councils, and across other district based bodies. The state's
High Court filing was in response to the justices call
for new briefing and arguments in the Louisiana case, which
they first heard earlier this year. Arguments will take place
on October fifteenth. Race based redistioning is fundamental the contrary
to our constitution, to the Attorney General Elizabeth Morrell. But

(15:03):
here's the thing, Gary, they do like race based redistric team.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
If it's white, yes.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Sir, see that See that's what I keep trying to explain
to people. See, everybody keep talking about identity politics. If
it's black, Latino, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
White is an identity. What they want, what they desire
are to have as many white districts.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Because what have I been saying with my book White Fear,
How the browning of Americans making white folks lose their minds.
They are scared to death of the nation becoming withdrawing
people of color.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
They want to hold onto power. They do not want
to let go.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
They want as many white folks in power as long
as possible. Donald Trump don't want no black immigrants. He
don't want no brown immigrants. He's like, why can't we
just recruit as many white folks as we possibly can?
And all of these folks are walking around being delusional
and not understanding. And again I keep saying this, And

(15:58):
I love dancing, I love step been dancing, strolling, whatever
the hell we want to do. But a lot of
black folks are preoccupied with doing boots on the ground
line dances and not understanding that these people want to
completely I keep saying it defund Black America. They want
to snatch as much of our political power, economic power,

(16:22):
educational power, what we've done in the area of health.
They are going after it all, and the way to
do that is to rip away our political infrastructure.

Speaker 8 (16:35):
They are actively going after our mayors, They are actively
targeting them with the government. They are trying to take
away black political power within the Republican Party. And then
we are arguing with black folks, trying to convince black
folks that New Orleans still needs a black mayor. That
we are having conversations with black people in this day

(16:55):
that don't understand that in a time when people are
attacking your very egar existence in power, where you have
an attorney general of your state that is saying actively
saying that race should not matter, when you know that
they are discriminating against you. There has not been a
black person elected statewide in Louisiana since the eighteen seventies,
and the reasons that those things exist is because racial

(17:18):
hatred and bigotry still exist. The question I always ask
is when the white folks that were in the pitchers
in nineteen sixties, when they were the ones picketing and
boycotting against.

Speaker 9 (17:27):
Our children going to the school. Where did those grandmothers go?

Speaker 8 (17:31):
Where were their children that were in the same school
with my mother who went to a segregated McKinley High School.
Where did all of those seventy eighty year old people go?
And who are their children? Who are their grandchildren? What
do they manage? What positions of power are they holding
here in Louisiana, here in Mississippi, here in Alabama where
they have learned that quiet.

Speaker 9 (17:50):
Racism works better than loud racism.

Speaker 8 (17:53):
So we will quote doctor King in the very documents
that we filed with the Supreme Court to strip your
power away from you. They will bastardize our words and
work against us because we are not even foolish to
think that our enemies are in any way trying to
feed us anything good.

Speaker 9 (18:09):
They are broke clocks wrong.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Every single day you sent me this video of Jeff Landry.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
When was that video? When was that this was?

Speaker 9 (18:19):
When on doctor King day?

Speaker 8 (18:21):
Jeff opened a special session last year in twenty twenty
four to draw our congressional maps over and he gives
this speech where he quotes doctor King, and he starts
illuminating how doctor King, it was so hard for doctor King.
He had to vote fight against things. All we have
to do is press a But I want your Attorney
general is working against that.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
So here's I want to do.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
I want to play this video, y'all, and if y'all
want to hear word salad.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I listened to it.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
I was like, man, what the hell is he talking about?
Y'all Listen, listen this, y'all gonna get a kick out
of this.

Speaker 9 (18:54):
Listen.

Speaker 10 (18:55):
As we work on other electoral reforms with these redistricting maps,
now is the time to also deal. I believe with
this common sense change. Today we honor doctor Martin Luther King,
and I do not believe that it is mere irony

(19:18):
that finds us here today, on this great day, on
this consecrated day, where we seek to amplify the voice
a few, where we seek to broaden the opportunity for
participation in the government and governance of our people. The

(19:40):
courage and the wisdom and the relentless pursuit of fairness
in our electoral process was exactly with doctor King, smoke
for and so it should be profoundly moving that we
do this on this day.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
In fact, his.

Speaker 10 (19:59):
Words and sixty eight I believe a wholly appropriated appropriate
fifty six years later, at this very hour, where he said,
the arc of the moral universe is long, but it
bends towards justice.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
You see, for doctor King's.

Speaker 10 (20:21):
His was an uphill journey into the headwinds of hate.
His was a march into a battle, while hours is
a mere walk in the park. He was a persecu
His was a persecution for speaking his truth, while ours
is just a comfortable dialogue. His was a mighty shove,

(20:49):
while yours is simply a mere push of the button.
Ladies and gentlemen, let us take these affairs and the
things that have divided us in this state off the
table so we can begin the work that the people
have sent us here. God bless you, God bless each

(21:10):
and everyone as we work on other electorial.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Have no idea, Gara, what the hell are you talking about?
He was just talking, just talking, talking. But I do want.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
People to understand this is what this Associated Press story says.
And yet y'all heard Gary say this and I say
this the other day as well.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Go to my iPad. Y'all listen.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
It says a second round of arguments is a rare
occurrence at the Supreme Court and sometimes persages a major
change by the High Court. The Citizens United decision in
twenty ten that led to dramatic increases and independent spending
in US elections came after it was.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Argued a second time.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
When the Court first heard Louisiana case in March, several
of the court's conservative justice suggested they could vote to
throw out the map and make it harder, if not impossible,
to bring redistricting lawsuits under the Voting Rights Act. The
case involves the interplay between race and politics and drum

(22:18):
political boundaries. Just two years ago, the Court, by five
to four vote, affirmed or ruling that found a likely
violation of the Voting Rights Act in a similar case
over Alabama's congressional map. Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice
Brett Kavanaugh joined their three more liberal colleagues in the outcome.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Gary, I have been screaming from the rooftops. Black folks,
pay attention this.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
These arguments are October fifteenth, and again it has been
Clarence Thomas's.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Wet dream to invalidate the voting rights.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
A black people have no idea how devastating this decision
could be, and these Supreme Court justices are literally lining
it up.

Speaker 8 (23:17):
I think that for all of the conversations that Gavin
Newsom and others are having on podcasts, if you can't
get down here and illuminate the issue that is taking
place in Louisiana, that will uproot everything that we fundamentally
understand in this country to exist as normal. I think
that it's smoking mirrors, it's all hogwashed.

Speaker 9 (23:39):
Here's the other thing.

Speaker 8 (23:40):
You are letting people from the fiftieth rank state in the.

Speaker 9 (23:45):
Nation run the gamut on you.

Speaker 8 (23:48):
We are letting people who come from the place that
ranks dead last in almost every major category that this
country values as the future or or prosperity. We are
last at it. We are last in the environmental quality.
We are last in the economy. We are last in crime.
We ranked we are at the almost the bottom of

(24:11):
education and healthcare.

Speaker 9 (24:12):
Where you look at the results of the leadership of
this place.

Speaker 8 (24:16):
And Mike Johnson is number one in the House of
Representatives and his henchmen are in this state unraveling a
case that could uproot everything we know every piece of
leadership of the Democratic Party should have touched ground in
the state of Louisiana immediately. This should not get to
an October fifteenth court case before every eye in the

(24:36):
country is paying attention to what's happening here, because if
you don't, it's gonna be knocking on your door very
very soon.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
What a bringing my panel opportunity for them to ask
you some questions, Garrett, Doctor Nola Hayes, Georgetown University, School
of Foreign Service of DC that the Great Car Department
of Affo American Studies at Howard University of DC. Recent
COVID host the recent COVID show Excellent Radio out of
DC recee you.

Speaker 11 (25:01):
First, thank you Gary for constantly obviously putting Louisiana in
the spotlight. I would like you to talk a little
bit more about the return on investment in terms of
how you said how cheap it would be to actually
activate people. One of the things we always talk about
is that if we just voted our capacity, or even
a higher proportion of our capacity, we can see those results.

(25:25):
So can you elaborate a little bit more on that
return and what's stopping people from making the investment So.

Speaker 9 (25:32):
That's a phenomenal question.

Speaker 8 (25:34):
Recip When you look at, for instance, when I ran
in twenty twenty two, I think we spent about five
to seven dollars a vote to win. To beat the
Democrat that was in the race against us, he raised
I think it was three million dollars, which he spent
about nine to ten dollars a vote. To compare, rock

(25:54):
Field Ward not spent about one hundred dollars a vote.
In other states, they over forty or fifty dollars a vote.
John Kennedy spent over fifty dollars a vote to win
the US Senate race in Louisiana. Why does that matter
Because when you look at Louisiana, if there was a
real investment between Luke Mixing and myself, there wasn't even

(26:16):
a five million dollar investment in the candidates that were
running statewide, but were able to be able to generate
five dollars to six dollars a vote. That tells me
that if the Democratic Party took some of the dollars
that they were investing in some of the places that
they lost, or in candidates that are not as impactful,
they would get more of a harvest in Louisiana more
of a harvest in Mississippi for the dollars that they invest,

(26:39):
because the dollars go further. I know rollers from Texas,
but even in Texas, what you're going to spend on
a vote in Texas and how many votes you have
to turn in Texas? You need to turn over five
million voters in Texas. To win a state wide election.
In Louisiana, you need to turn over anywhere from five
hundred to nine hundred thousand voters. So if I need
to turn over five hundred to nine hundred thousand voters

(26:59):
and it may cost me seven dollars a vote on
the low end and turn that voter out, what if I.

Speaker 9 (27:04):
Spent fifty dollars a vote in Louisiana.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
We call that. We call that basic math.

Speaker 12 (27:12):
Noah, Gary, thank you so much for the work that
you are always doing in our home state.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
My question is, you know Roland showed the.

Speaker 12 (27:24):
Black mail leaders in Louisiana and then the rest of
the sixteen other black leaders in Louisiana. What needs to
happen on the ground that isn't happening right now for
people to understand what's at stake, because it just can't
be you.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
You are amazing, but can't it just cannot be you.

Speaker 9 (27:45):
I want to be.

Speaker 8 (27:46):
Clear that when I ran for the Senate in twenty
twenty two, it was black leaders within the Democratic Party
that helped take that endorsement away from me. So some
of those same people still exist within the Democratic Party.
You could look at one of the only black women
in the state Senate, Senator Katrina Jackson from North Louisiana.
She was just in a picture praising Bill Cassidy the

(28:08):
other day. Bill Cassidy's about to run for the US
Senate race next year. We shouldn't have a single Democrat
taking a picture standing up praising Bill Cassidy when you've
got people within the state Senate that represents you that
are willing to compromise, when you've got leaders who find
that if I can get a little bit out of him,
it doesn't matter because I'm able to at least help
my people in this climate. How are you helping your

(28:29):
people if they're stripping away every single thing that your
people will.

Speaker 9 (28:32):
Fight for for the history of this country. It is
literally working against our best interests. And when you say
those things, now I'm against you.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
I'm attacking You know, these are facts, and these things
harm our potential as black people, they harm our effectiveness
as black people. And until we as voters decide that
some of these people cannot continue to represent us in
the leadership of the party, and that some of these
people cannot continue to represent us in our state legislature,
we are fighting a losing bat when we put compromising

(29:01):
people in positions of power. Now, you may think that
I'm too doggish or that I'm too bombastic, but the
people who are against you are very doggish and very bombastic.

Speaker 9 (29:11):
And they are at war with you. And you're sitting
there playing like you're at church on Sunday.

Speaker 13 (29:18):
Greg, Thank you, Roland and brother Gary. It's always good
to hear your voice and to be able to learn
and listen as you work. I quote you all the time, brother,
when you said itself's not read, it's just underorganized. And
I want to ask you, you know, when you talk
about bandwidth plus platform and the other element studying analysis,

(29:40):
I think is important and you've demonstrated that to us.
And when you put that together with the force of personality,
I think it leads to why you are who you are.
I want to ask you about the possibilities of withdrawing
our participation.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
And I'm not just talking about politically.

Speaker 13 (29:54):
I mean, you know, we got these establishment folks and
then you got organic folks who kind of coming up
from wherever we are. You know, do you imagine that
there will be a tipping point, not necessarily in electoral politics,
but in the behavior of the people who don't participate
at all. I'm imagining perhaps some young woman or young
man who will decide not to dribble a ball for

(30:15):
LSU on the basketball court of the football and then,
you know, could we tap into those unengaged volte not
the people who don't vote, the people who make the
majority in places like Louisiana. What's our strategy for maybe
even going beyond party politics at this point and instead
of just being within that framework of the Democratic Republican Party,

(30:37):
just continuing to follow your lead and engaging those folks
who will become engaged in politically active, who don't care
about the political labels of Democratic Republican but are looking
to acquire power.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
How do we go about that? Brother? What's the message
for those votes?

Speaker 8 (30:50):
It's always good to talk to you, Doc, and I
owe you a call.

Speaker 13 (30:56):
No, no, no, I was looking for you a number I
could find it man, so Roland to get to me.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Got DC, I got it.

Speaker 8 (31:02):
God, I really feel I was in Vastriary, Louisiana last
week with Serena Stive and Emil Washington and Will Sutton,
good black folks who just trying to help black people.

Speaker 9 (31:16):
Vastie is in Saint James Parish.

Speaker 8 (31:19):
Saint James is a majority black parish with one black
elected official parish wide. We didn't go in with the
Democratic Party. We didn't go in there talking to Democrat
Party stuff. We went in there talking to black people
about their power and what they can do to mobilize
and energize the four thousand black folks who are not
voting in Saint James Parish. There are sixty four parishes

(31:43):
in Louisiana. We got black folks in every one of them.
If we gonna have conversations with those people and inform
them of their power, then we can unlock those people.

Speaker 9 (31:51):
I think that there are some people in power who.

Speaker 8 (31:53):
Don't go talk to those people, because if those people
showed up to vote, some of those people would not
be in power. We are of the belief that all
of the people that we elect want all of the
people to vote.

Speaker 9 (32:05):
The reality is.

Speaker 8 (32:06):
That the people that we elect only want the people
to vote that are going to vote for them. And
if they think that your cousin that's at the house
is potentially a cousin that's a little more rambunctious and
might send them home, they're not trying to send a
mail piece to that potion.

Speaker 9 (32:20):
They don't want that person registered to vote.

Speaker 8 (32:22):
And we are the ones who have this belief that
those people are mobilizing those people, when if you aren't
knocking those doors. It's not naive that though it's not
lost on me that every time I go into those
communities there's a black person that stands up in the
room and says that they hadn't heard from their elected official.

Speaker 9 (32:37):
That's intentional.

Speaker 8 (32:38):
They don't want you to hear from them until it's
time to re elect them and tell you whatever they
wanted you to believe.

Speaker 9 (32:44):
And what's on us to get in these communities.

Speaker 8 (32:46):
And tell black people what their power is because most
black people don't even know in these communities that if
there were fifteen hundred more of us that showed up,
that we would have a deciding outcome that changed the
economic future of these communities because you go from a
black community where some black people are getting less than
one or two percent of contracts in those communities, to

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a community where black people can get contracting opportunities, where
black people can get those jobs, where they could work
at the clerk of cork's office or the mayor's office,
or the constable's office, or the tax assensor's office or
the corda's office, because every last one of those things
touches black people's lives. And if you are paying into
a tax system, then you are to be able to

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reap the benefits, whether it's a job, a contract, or
the benefit that the government owes you in the service.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yes, sir, absolutely, And this is why I make the point.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
See, this is where people, I think Gary get confused
when I hear these simple sigmons who.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Go, oh, man, you you shilling for the Democratic Party.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
No, I understand party, I understand infrastructure. And what I
and what I am saying is, first of all, with
a two party system. Now, there are elections in this
country that nonpartisan. So the issue is not Democrat Republican.
The issue is.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Which pathway, which tunnel.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Am I more likely going to be able to get
what I need for my community if I got those
two choices, it ain't gonna be the Republican Party, which
means to the black people who are simple simons. My
point is we if we maximize our power, we could
be electing different people to office who will be running

(34:33):
as a Democrat. That's not supporting the Democrats. That's supporting
black folks who will advocate for black folks using the
existing party system.

Speaker 8 (34:46):
Roland, I have never run for office where over fifty
percent of the people showed up to vote. So when
we have a conversation about the output or the return
on investment, you got to put something in to get
some out.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
The pot bom.

Speaker 8 (35:00):
If you're not satisfied with the people that you got,
then more people need to show up in a deliberate
and intentional way to replace those people.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, I mean that's what I said that all the time.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
There's a thing called primaries.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
It's a thing. It's a thing called primaries. You can
vote somebody out. They can lose a primary. Now, you
may see what happened in Buffalo when the sister who
was a socialist ran against the incumbent mayor beat him.
Then he ran as a writing candidate and beat her
in the primary. You see what's happening right now in
New York with Mam Donnie. But the bottom line is

(35:37):
that's why there is a primary system. The person who's
gont likely to get more votes in the primary. Hey,
that person is likely, if it's heavy democratic, to be
the winner in a general.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
But you can't do nothing if.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
You don't run. And then if you can't do nothing
if you don't vote.

Speaker 8 (35:54):
You know, Roland, My dad as a sports fan and
he likes football, and he always says that the cheat
on Scotlandville High School when they play in the football game.

Speaker 9 (36:03):
But he has a simple analogy that.

Speaker 8 (36:05):
He always says, if you run the score up, it
doesn't matter what the refs do, they can't beat you.
And so no matter how many times we have an
opportunity to go vote, we should show up and we
should run the score up, no matter how much they
are going to cheat and play against us every election,
school board, clerk of court, constable, judges, district attorney, senators,

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every level, show.

Speaker 9 (36:31):
Up in everyone and run the score up.

Speaker 8 (36:33):
There's a story about Bobby Kennedy when he ran for
the presidency.

Speaker 9 (36:38):
That in Watts in LA.

Speaker 8 (36:40):
That in wats that the box they called in because
the box was blacked out, meaning every voter that could
vote showed up to vote. We need to be willing
to show up in a way to do monumental turnout
and elections to show that we reject these things, because
the only way that we can give ourselves the power
to fight against this is delegating our authority to new

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leaders that believe in the same ideals that we do.

Speaker 9 (37:05):
These things didn't just happen and get created for us.

Speaker 8 (37:08):
There was a generation that believed that they could do
something about the things that they saw. We need a
generation that believes that they can do something about the
things that we see today.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
And I'm going to remind our viewers again in two
thousand and eight, that was the first time in American
history where a larger percentage of black people voted than
white people in this country. And that's how Obama was

(37:39):
elected president. And then what I always say, just like
I tell all of two hundred and fifty thousand who
watched us on March fourth, where y'all go, Because we've
been here every night once you show me once you
can do it, that means you can do it again.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
If you want to.

Speaker 9 (37:58):
That's right, That's right.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Gare keep up the fight. We'll keep talking about this
very issue because it is an important one. Thanks a lot,
Thank you as always, Bro, going to break, I'll be
right back. Roland Martin unfiltered on the Blackstar Network.

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Speaker 1 (40:44):
A Democratic member of the Surface Transportation Board, I have
no idea what the hell. That is is Donald Trump's
latest victim in his fire race. Bred Trump fired Robert Primus,
one of the two Democratic members on the board.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
He was the only board.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Member who opposed Canadian Cifix acquisition of Kansas City So
the Railroad when it was approved two years ago, as
he was concerned it would harm competition. Explain his position
on CNBC.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
The Country.

Speaker 16 (41:13):
So, the big thing hanging over this entire board right
now is is proposed eighty five billion dollar merger between
Norfolk Southern and Union Pacific. What have you said publicly
about where you stand on that merger.

Speaker 17 (41:25):
Well, I've said nothing publicly because as a board member,
we're not supposed to. I have said in the past,
and my record has reflected and my vote against the
CPKC merger, that I'm very concerned with further consolidation and
what that does to competition, how that affects shippers, how

(41:46):
that affects rates, how it affects the overall public in
terms of passing along those increased rates into consumer products
and people paying more for those products. Overall, I'm worried
about the service problems that tend to happen after mergers.
We've had numerous meltdowns over the decades, and the American

(42:08):
consumer as well as the manufacturing base and production base
in this country has suffered. We've lost millions of dollars
and production costs, and we've had increased consumer costs as
a result of that.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
So those are all Let's.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Just be real clear what we're dealing with here, Nola,
Donald Trump. Whoever hooks them up with a payoff, they
gonna get hooked up. And what you are seeing here
is they want to hook up anybody and everybody, and
if you even express an interest against the merger, you're

(42:44):
a goner. That's I mean, the raping and pillaging of
this country is happening before our very eyes. And what
is confusing are these crazy as broke, white maga folks
who actually think this man give a damn buck them.

Speaker 13 (43:00):
You know.

Speaker 5 (43:00):
The oooh, the conditioning is deep. Right.

Speaker 12 (43:06):
We've talked many times about the cult like reverence for
this man.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
He can do whatever he wants.

Speaker 12 (43:12):
I was coming at some people earlier today, reminding them
of a Katari plane that the President of the United
States have. And don't worry about influencers getting paid, you know,
talk about being distracted from what's important. Here, But regarding
this particular story, I know what it feels like to
be a board member and not to be able to
speak out about things, right, especially when you see things

(43:34):
that you don't necessarily believe in, and especially with this
petty president who puts vindictiveness first, who I hope everyone
understands we are no longer tiptoeing towards authoritarianism.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
We are here.

Speaker 12 (43:48):
I hope everyone understands that quite clearly. That if you
just if there's a whiff, you know, of going against him,
then you are automatically an enemy. And he has a
lot of minions to support and carry out those very
vindictive orders, and we're in a very dangerous place.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
I'm not about to sugarcoat it.

Speaker 12 (44:06):
And that story with Gary Chambers it like, literally my
blood is boiling because we are at such a tipping
point in this country right now Roland and this president,
morality does not.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
Exist, it is gone. They laugh at it.

Speaker 12 (44:25):
So I'm just I guess I'm just over here just
trying to figure out, like, what do we do you know,
with that type of personality sitting at the top.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
I made this point Greg in that I don't think
people really.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Truly get it.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
And I think that this is actually, in many ways
democrats biggest problem, and that is people believe, if you
step back and study this, this republic, this where Republicans

(45:09):
want to be a theocracy and not a democracy, that
they actually believed that the white founders put in guard
rails that they create and if they always talk about this,
that that they created this.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
System, that.

Speaker 18 (45:32):
Cross that the system would protect itself, that by creating
the legislative, the executive, and the judicial, that these are
three co equal branches of government.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
And then whatever powers are not enumerated in the United
States Constitution, those are states rights. If it's in the constitution,
those are federal rights. And they believe that when when
when the legislative went too far, the executive could rain
them in. With the executive too far, the legislative could
rain them in. And when the executive and the legislative

(46:09):
went too far, that the judicial could rain them in.
But here's the problem. They ain't nothing over the judicial.
So what then happens when the judicial lines up ideologically

(46:31):
or the legislative and the legislative is operating in the
fealty position to the executive, and then comes along someone
who is unlike.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
The previous forty five or whatever that means.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
So the system, the system, the system was built in
that the person who the people entrusted with the office,
that this person would bring a sense of honor, decency, respect, morals, values,

(47:19):
ethics to the position, and that person would take a
position and say, no, don't know, I can't do that.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
That's going too far because there are rules. What this system.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Never anticipated to some degree, some people in the failure's
papers did think you would happen. The system never ever
thought that you would get somebody who is so immoral,
so unethical, so evil that there is no bottom, someone

(48:02):
who would reduce his own party into a rubber stamp.
And by having all the power, this person says, and
he said it earlier this week.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
I can do whatever I want as president.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
If Biden, Obama, Bush one, Bush two, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Johnson, Kennedy, Truman, Eisenhower, Truman,
Fdr Wilson, I mean we got If any of them

(48:45):
are ever under those words, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
And then I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
There's legislative, executive, judicial, and then there's the fourth of state.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
But we are not living in a moment where the.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Legislative is kissing his ass, the judicial is rubber stamping him.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
The media is scared to death because the people with
fuck you money are literally afraid to say it. And
so he's sitting there saying.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
I got everybody where I need them, and I am
about to pump the hell out of this office.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
That's literally where we are.

Speaker 13 (49:35):
It is, And you've injected in that analysis, in that narrative,
the wild card. You're right, Washington, Madison, Adams, Jefferson. None
of them could have imagined a Donald Trump. Let me
take that back, Jefferson. I think more than the others,
maybe Madison, between Madison and Jefferson could have imagined because

(49:58):
they both understood that the Constitution that they ratified was
a living document that would have to be periodically renegotiated.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
They wrote that way.

Speaker 13 (50:09):
Certainly, Jefferson, I'm very excited right now about where we
are in this country because it's never been a nation
and it was going to always have to be renegotiated.
The last chance that this funky criminal enterprise had to
come together in a different way was really the reconstruction era.
As we've talked about many times, thirteen fourteenth to fifty

(50:30):
of the Mimus k Tanji Brown Jackson understands that plainly,
as does Sonya Soda Mayor.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
But that haven't been said.

Speaker 13 (50:39):
I thought you were going somewhere else for a moment there, brother,
going back to something that you bring up many times.
What they could not have foreseen, and Duvoyce makes this
point in his expression of the African slave trade the
United States of American eighteen ninety six. Which they could
not ever have foreseen was us. They kicked the can
down the road with the Federal Constitution. They did not
solve the problem of captivity of human trafficking, which meant

(51:01):
two generations later the country almost came apart and hundreds
of thousands of lives were ended.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
The Civil War.

Speaker 13 (51:10):
Ju Boi says that if they had handled it at
the time, then it wouldn't have been a civil war,
but that would have meant including us in the criminal enterprise,
and that presents its own problems. So one hundred years later,
the next best chance, after reconstruction, the period of the
nineteen fifties and sixties that we call the civil rights movement,
was the second best chance for them to handle it.

(51:31):
But these white supremacists can't give up the thing that
keeps this country together, and that's white nationalism. Donald Trump
does what he does because he's a white man. Donald
Trump this week behaved like an open socialist, nationalizing ten
percent of intel. If Obama had even breathed that possibility,
you're socialists, your crivties. You can't take over the But

(51:53):
white supremacy is not capitalist, is not socialist.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
It's white supremacist.

Speaker 13 (51:58):
And I think that at George Bushet to do the
same thing, or Ronald Reagan had tried to do the
same thing, they would have been able to get away
with it, maybe not as easily as Trump, because Trump
is a naked white nationalist, unlike those others who tried
to peddle soft white nationalism. Where am I going with this?
The beautiful thing about this moment. The beautiful thing about
this moment is they have caught the car and they

(52:19):
history will show us are over extending the possibility of
their reach. Last time, my law students, we were talking
about the Federal's papers, and it's interesting you mentioned the
Fellow's papers and Fellerwer's fifty four I think it is,
and maybe it's fifty five of John Jay or Hamilton.
They were saying that the Native Americans are attached to
the land. The Negroes are attached to us. What does

(52:43):
that mean? That means that the Constitution, which is basically
a contract document until you put to build the rights
in the Constitution, was really about commerce and protecting the
landed class. It was never supposed to include the indigenous,
it was never supposed to include us, and it was
never supposed to include women. Now everybody's and play. Everybody's
in the table. These Europeans can count. And so this

(53:04):
document Project twenty twenty five an open white nationalist document.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Chapter what is this chapter on?

Speaker 13 (53:11):
Chapter nineteen, Department of Transportation, Diana Ferghott Roth. What we
saw happen today with that brother, Robert Primus is because
what they want to do is privatize everything, get their
grummy paws on it. But in doing that, here's the
solution we heard from Gary Chambers, what you laid out. Executive, Judiciary,

(53:35):
and the legislative are now all on the same white
national's page for however long they can maintain that, which
may not be long at all, depending on the midterms.
But the power, as you said, Roland, the Constitution says
all things not explicitly delegated to the federal government belonged
to the states. What we are seeing in Illinois, what
we're seeing in California, what we're seeing in Maryland, what
we will increasingly see in these other states, maybe Michigan,

(53:56):
maybe Jersey, are going to be a civil war. I'm
not talking about a shooting war. I'm talking about a
political war. The states they control billions of dollars of
ability to do trade, even with overseas entities, as we
will see in California. They are going to break the
back of the United States of America. It is presently constituted,

(54:17):
and when they do that, it's not gonna be put
together the way it was before.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
California and New York.

Speaker 13 (54:22):
Maybe we'll trade with India because India today, when Trump
said eighty fifty percent tariff, they was like, go to hell.
We can sell our or we can get that Russian
all and we're gonna sell other stuff other places. The
world is working on a work around now to the
United States of America. When this thing fractures, that's gonna
be our best opportunity. It was a reconstruction, wasn't civil
rights movement. Now we're in a position we're going to
renegotiate the terms of this. If we can get our

(54:43):
act together, that's gonna involve solidarity politics.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
But that's a conversation for another day.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
As we look at this, and I've set this consistently racy,
it can't happen until there is maximum pain, and the
maximum pain not Latinos now feeling as if they.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Got double crossed, not.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Black folks saying hastag. We try to tell you, But
the realtor is this year, this is going to have
to be a moment where and I am not remotely
sold on this, but this is going to have to
be the moment where these broke as white people and

(55:39):
these so called independence and these other so called white
marginalized people, which is oxymoro, wake up and realize you
got played. You had somebody who is a robber baron
who played you like he is populist.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
You've got jd.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Vance, Hugh Billy Elegy, whatever the hell book he wrote,
being supported by a multi billionaire white South African.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
And so that that is the only way.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
But what Greg is talking about is going to require
some white if we really want to go out to reconstruction,
some white radical Republicans, No question.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
To wake up and.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Realize, damn our assets have been played for the last
fifty years, and them damn black folks were right as hell.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
So we need to listen to them to take this over.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Otherwise they just gonna keep believing you penalize them. You
penalize them, and we good because you're you're talking to
them that that's then I see this thing changing.

Speaker 11 (57:03):
Yeah, everybody's gonna get their n world wakeup call because
Project twenty twenty five is leaving no stone unturned and
we are see them with warp speed implement these policies
that are about pruning the population, that are about re
engineering society pathways to the middle class and upper class.
Everybody think they're gonna be the next Donald Trump billionaire,

(57:25):
and he batty his billionaire if he wasn't robbing and stealing,
and so, yes, a lot of people are going to
get their wake up call.

Speaker 15 (57:31):
But to your point, Roland.

Speaker 11 (57:33):
A lot of people feel very very comfortable right now
with the idea that it's just gonna hit them over there.
You know, Donald Trump is for you, comminas for they them, Well,
all of us are to they them, and Donald Trump's
moyther the fuck in America if you're not a billionaire,
and so it's gonna take more pain. Apparently COVID wasn't
enough because I guess everybody forgot about one million day

(57:53):
Americans when Donald Trump watched the pandemic, four hundred thousand
businesses lost, millions of people, jobs lost, You couldn't go
visit your granny at the nursing home. Everybody was skyping
shit to have birthday parties and baby showers and canceling wethers.

Speaker 15 (58:11):
Apparently that wasn't enough pain. We got to run and
then didn't and didn't let the last.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
And not only that didn't penalize the dumb ass who
watched it.

Speaker 15 (58:20):
Oh no no no, oh no, no no.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
And then and then blamed the dude who had to clean.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
It up to say, why you didn't clean it up faster?

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Well, yeah, what.

Speaker 11 (58:33):
They didn't run against Donald Trump fucked up the pandemic.
They run again, save democracy, which nobody to give it
dan about like that, and that was just a failing,
stupid ass slogan. Nobody cares like it was not a
big deal. The bubble, the matter of the people short
but outside of them, that.

Speaker 15 (58:47):
Ain't nothing of them.

Speaker 11 (58:48):
But you know, The messed up part about this is,
at least with the pandemic, the cavalry came in. At
least with the pandemic, you had Nancy Pelosi as Speaker
of the House.

Speaker 15 (58:58):
So people got some checks.

Speaker 11 (58:59):
They got at they stemmys that they were still giving
Donald Trump credit for four years later. You know, they
got unemployment assurance, they weren't getting kicked out of their homes.
Everything was laid out to try to give the American
people a soft landing in a global pandemic. Now what
we got in office with Projects twenty twenty five is
a boot up the ass. Okay, you're gonna lose your

(59:21):
food stamps, you're gonna lose your jobs. You're gonna be
paying trip a quadrup before your student loans. Everybody who
today's a good day to cancel student debt. You're gonna
lose your health assurance, your rural hospitals are gonna close down.
And then guess what you're gonna have to deal with
the military walking around your neighborhoods with rifles and shit.
This is about to be a military occupation because they

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know they're about to rob this country blind. And they
know that when people are desperate that costs for desperate measures.
So all of this is going according to their plan.
And all of the people who voted for Donald Trump
or did not vote in spite of the threat that died,
I'm Trump clearly faced, you asked for this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
It is. It's a whole lot to have to factor in.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
And and Nola, I keep saying it, and people can say,
oh man, you know you keep you keep bringing this up,
you keep talking about this, you keep that. But I
don't care what anybody says. Literally, the only way this
thing changes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Outside of a physical civil war is a war at
the ballot box.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
We just saw in Iowa two nights ago a state
Senate seat, Trump won eleven percent. That sucker flipped twenty points.
But what does that mean. We saw this with Mom
Donnie winning the primary. But what it requires, Nola, It

(01:01:06):
literally requires a new type of candidate who frankly, listen
to Joe Madison. You gotta put it where the ghosts
can get it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
You gotta talk to people in.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
A way where they understand and affordability issues. And you
ain't talking about no disrespect to everybody on here with
a PhD. Stop having fucking PhD. Conversations and have PhD
conversations with regular ordinary people and do what Ella Baker told.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
To stick people.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Take your college clothes off, put your overalls on, and
go to them sharecroppers. Trust me, they might have a
second or third grade education, but they smart as hell.
That to me, there has to be a massive uprising
of those type of candidates to flip this, and it
can happen, but it has to be mobilized.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
I'm organized.

Speaker 12 (01:02:06):
Y'all saw it saying that like fifty three percent of
Republicans support a third Trump term limit. So the thing
that I think about Roland, I read with everything you
just said. We need to get to twenty six first,
and once we get there, we don't know what kind
of shenanigans is going to be in store. Because we
know the Dems are going to sweep. We know that
the Dems are going to make gains that will happen.

(01:02:30):
But again, we need to get to twenty six. And
what I'm interested in hearing is what is that plan right?
How are we going to motivate people to get up
and vote. How are we going to motivate people to
understand what the next steps.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
To this is?

Speaker 12 (01:02:48):
Because there are still too many people out there for
my taste, that still kind of believe, oh maybe something
will happen where it'll go back to normal, or maybe,
you know, some magical thing will happen. And this is
where that Southern Democratic strategy needs to come into place.
And yes, I agree with you. You need to talk
to everybody, meet them where they are. I had a

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conversation with doctor Andy Andrews today, who's running for Lindsey
grahmseyat and I asked her straight up, I said, you know,
what is your ground game? How are you engaging black
folks in South Carolina? Have you been on Roland Martin
Show yet? And she said no, I would love to.
I was like, you need to make that happen right away.
So this is about, really, you know, drilling down on

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a base and getting people motivated. That is the word here,
getting people motivated to get up to vote, because too
many people are not understanding what's at stake. And god forbid,
you are watching Fox News every day. They're not tuned
into these conversations. So it needs to be a multifaceted

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strategy in the South needs to be in play.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
Period.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
The point that Nolig just made grig he's a perfect example. No,
let's say in twenty six Oh no, no, we got
twenty five elections, and so it's like perfect example. Let
me find this piece. I was singing it the other day.

(01:04:23):
You have a governor's race in New Jersey and you've
got a you got a candidate, Congresswoman Mikey Cheryl. And

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this is the political story. Mikey Cheryl could lose New
Jersey if dims don't win back black and Hispanic voters.

Speaker 19 (01:04:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
And it says a political analysis of election result sials
a path, but you willp nominee jack Cia Torelli, and
it runs through the places Cheryl was weakest in the primary. Okay,
so she was real weak in Black and Hispanic. Now,
you had, of course roths Baraka running, you had other
can yet other can is running. But here's the problem.

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It's right here in majority of black municipalities. For example,
Cheryl won just sixteen percent the Democratic primary vote compared
to thirty four percent nationwide. Now, as she races to
expand her support beyond her winning primary coalition, she's competing
against Sea the rally for some of the same voters. Okay,
So that's what the article says, Now, I've gotten multiple
calls from people. Now eight days ago, here's a poll

(01:05:35):
that said says she leads by nine points among likely voters. Well,
that's likely voters. Okay, Now here's I got a phone
call the other day from some folks who are word
as hell that she ain't out here competing for black votes.

(01:05:55):
Matter of fact, there was someone in Georgia. Let me
find the article. They put an article in USA today
saying that they don't necessarily, uh, don't necessarily.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Care for her.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
And this right here, this guy Oscar jet in one second,
close this out. This guy says, I'm a black New
Jersey Democrat. This is why I can't support Mikey Cheryl
for governor. And I had I'm a black man, the
Democrat and the youngest person ever elected to the Newer
City Council, small business owned, an entrepreneur dedicate the rebuilding
urban communities across the country. I stay actively in every

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political cycle, and I'm a known entrusted neighborhood organizer within
the city where I was born and raised. I've been
trying to find a rationale to vote for Mikey Cheryl
and the Franklin as an African American. I just can't
do it, and now they can. Many blacks in New
Jersey and you go on, you can read the piece here.
I see recent with a face right here. Uh, Lisa, Huh,
that's most blacks in New Jersey. No, Sheryl has always

(01:06:55):
had a difficult time communicating and integrating within our community.
Perhaps she has not been report it, but that is
the truth. During the primary, we witness examples that continue
to give us great pause.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Her Crin's worthy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Performance on the Breakfast Club, her foolish attacks against Rosmaraka,
the decision to hire only a few people of color
on her campaign team, and even her Chwice Lieutenant governor's
actually who's African American? Who many in our neighborhoods honestly
do not know. For many blacks, each issue is deeply
concerning and defines a pattern that has created a real
uphill challenge for Mikey's campaign in November.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Okay, so you got New Jersey race. That's in New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
You've got here in Virginia the House House Senate for grabs,
you got Spamburger running for Virginia Virginia Lieutenant governor against
a black candidate.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Republican winsome seies maga.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
And here's the thing, Spamburger, ain't she bought as exciting
as dry wall dry wall paint? Okay, it's not like
she's out here. Actually, I mean she posts the video
hood on the Black churches.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
They deleted it, but the whole point here is deleted. Yeah,
the whole point here is you got to actually have
people who are willing to talk to the base. So
before you can get.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
To twenty six, you got to deal with twenty five.
Twenty five is the setup to twenty six. And again,
these white Democrats and these white democratic stratetists are playing
the same dumbass games, and they gonna learn a hard
lesson in twenty twenty six if they don't truly change.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
That's true, Roland. It's interesting the two sources.

Speaker 13 (01:08:38):
That you kind of walk through there, one Politico the
other USA Today. These are I guess they may be
described as center right publications, but the commercial mass news
entertainment media is utterly worthless when it comes to local analysis.

(01:08:59):
I'm saying that again underscoring the central importance of Black
Star Network in this because these are the complicated conversations
that they simply cannot have you know, it's watching. You know,
one of one of your colleagues and comrades, Maddie Hayssen,
and he's interested how he jacked unfiltered, right, Meddie Hassen Unfiltered.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
I'm like, Maddie you okay, I see I see you.

Speaker 13 (01:09:19):
Buts a tale when he started the teo again following
your lead Black Star Network and again these people start
doing this. Now they get put out and now they
doing a thing which they should have been doing at
the beginning. But he makes an important point. Corporate media
can't tell the stories because they are they are looking
at their profit margin.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
They're they're they're they're they're holding to their shareholders.

Speaker 13 (01:09:40):
In both those stories, what you see is a misrepresentation
of what's going on on the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (01:09:45):
The interesting quote in that political article, I think it
came from internet miles and the Worker Families Party, The
Working Families Party, you know, Maurice more Mitchell, who went
to our one of my former students.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
You really sent it. In New York we see them
involved in the Donnie campaign.

Speaker 13 (01:09:59):
You said something all this is important, Roland, but you
elevated something again, underscored this a two party system in
this country. African people and those who are trying to
work on the behalf of everyone use the Democratic Party
as a delivery system.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
We're not Democrats.

Speaker 13 (01:10:14):
We use it as a delivery system because the other
party has been wholly captured by the white nationals. That's
an inversion of the mid nineteenth century, as you say,
when you have people like Charles Sumon and the Republican Party,
or even the nineteen sixties where you had for every
racist like Russell coming out of Georgia, you had people
like Everett Dirkson and them out of Illinois. You might
be able to use the Republican Party as a delivery system.

(01:10:35):
That haven't been said. What happened in Iowa with Caitlin
and Dre is more reliable as a barometer of where
we are in this country than anything's going to be
in political or. And I think about Richard Pryor saying,
don't you love when they find a negro that they
hire that negro and tell.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Me, I'm in Newark and I can't vote for as.

Speaker 13 (01:10:54):
You USA today, their job is to engender some notion
that this black people are not going to vote that
We're very clear the reason that that white woman didn't
perform well in Jersey and black communities, is what you said.
Ras was running now the idea that that's going to
linger over into a general election. We would rather stay
at home or vote for Republican than this white woman
who is clearly not someone that we support one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
That's absurd. It's just like Spamberger in Virginia. Now. I
said all that as a back drip and the playlude
to this.

Speaker 13 (01:11:22):
Finally, the electoral politics that we're engaged in now are
seeing a sliver of white people, more than a sliver,
maybe a plurality, who are terrified.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Now.

Speaker 13 (01:11:32):
These are the white people in Flyover America who's NPR
station now getting shut down because these white nacistants snatched
them three dollars and trying to figure out our way
to steer it into the Trump Corporation's pockets. These are
the white people in places like Iowa who voted for
Caitlyn dre and flip what was a double digit Trump
victory district during the election to a double digit Dred

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victory in the general election. And these are the black
people who, as Gary Chambers said, if you can inize
them like you said, I think half the st Alabama
had mayoral elections on Tuesday, when we saw our frat brother,
when we saw the mayor of Birmingham, Randall Wolfin, reelected
with about ten percent of the eligible voters in Birmingham
voting for him. Because that's about the percentage of eligible

(01:12:17):
voters that turned out in the election. What we are
looking at is people who, if you tap into those
people will render all these bullshit stories irrelevant. That's why
the line from the Working Families Party representative in that
political story is important. She spoke to a united front.
The United Front doesn't look at Democratic Republican. It looks

(01:12:39):
like can you vote your interest? And that's why Blackstar
Net was important, because you're talking about organizing brother, and
that will render all them corporate stories irrelevant.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
Probably looking for horse racism.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
But what it requires, though, reci it requires a Mikey
Cheryl to bring her ass to places like this.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
It requires an Abigail Spanberger to come here.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
And again I'm not saying only come here. I'm saying,
if you have any sense whatsoever, and I'm not just
talking about candidates showing up. I'm also talking about how
you spend money. The ecosystem is sitting right in front
of you. So it's this show, it's recy show, a
serious XM. It's Clay Caine, you've got it, You've got

(01:13:26):
You've got and again, and nothing against them, but y'all,
everybody don't listen to the Breakfast Club. And it don't
mean that everybody listened to Breakfast Club actually vote, that's right,
I see, I see. We know how white media operates,
where they only look for one person to be, you know,
the spokesman for black people to say, well, what a

(01:13:47):
black people think?

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
So let's call Charlotta Magne.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
But the reality is, I mean, I'm just I mean,
and again, I'm not hating Charlotaine, but.

Speaker 15 (01:13:54):
The planetical Maverick.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
But I know how but I know how white I
know how white media works because I saw and I
was a CNN. I was kind of like, hey, there's
some other black people. Y'all might want to call it
around this thing out, but we have to understand how
these people operate. And so if the smart play is
I need to be sitting here, and again, if I'm
a Mikey Cheryl, I'm going to hire some black people

(01:14:17):
say yo, you need to be on Ricky Smiley's Show,
Deal Hugley Show. There are syndicated radio shows, you have
Key of Black digital shows, key podcasts, all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
But it's called a strategy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Now, while I'm also articulating that strategy, that strategy go
also goes for the interviews, but it also goes for
the ad dollars. But the same strategy also goes for
Black people who are trying to do things and move
us as a collective and not run.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
It gives story. I forgot what was that. It was
some story that happened of the well.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Actually it was it was reaching I saw, but it
reminded me of I remember when Campaign zero had launched
an initiative and they gave the exclusive reaches to the
New York Times and reci when I say I cussed
the ass is out, uh, I was. I was channeling

(01:15:18):
my man George Curry when he used to cuss out
the National Urban League who would always give the the
exclusive to their State of Black American report to Associated
Press and then come talk to n n p A
and George and George and they had an embargo, and
then George got tired of that, so he just broke
the embargo.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
Told him to go to hell.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
But the thing is is you have to you have
to understand that the ecosystem we're living in now, you
just can't run an MSNBC and CNN.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
You have to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Create a concerted media strategy that's reaching multiple voices to
get the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Audience to turn out. That's all a part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
And frankly, some of these Democratic folks still ain't got
the message because they're still running that old bullshit game.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
That's true.

Speaker 11 (01:16:11):
I mean, on the one hand, I want to tell
black people grow the fuck up. It's gonna be a
white nationalist lunatic or these lay mass white ladies who.

Speaker 15 (01:16:18):
Don't really fuck with the blacks like that.

Speaker 11 (01:16:20):
They ain't got black people on their staff, they ain't
come in to our neighborhoods aside from church two weeks
before the election. But this is the situation that we
find ourselves in because black people didn't come out of
boat like they needed to veras Baraka, And so you
got the white lady and these white ladies.

Speaker 15 (01:16:36):
They was on.

Speaker 11 (01:16:38):
The New York Times covers and they're the cavalry. They're
the new Alpha Democrats. Who else was the other one?
They have at least Stefanic or whoever she child. White
women are not going to save the Democratic Party, but
I would like to see y'all try in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 15 (01:16:55):
That's run the sub experiment.

Speaker 11 (01:16:56):
With the Democratic Party. Let's see a little bit of
it action. But until then, black people will try to
understand the assignment. But what Democrats need to understand is
that a lot of black people are.

Speaker 15 (01:17:08):
Choosing the couch.

Speaker 11 (01:17:09):
And black people have been under invested, as Gary Chambers
let off the show talking about, and they've been under
cultivated and taking for granted. And as much as we
can sit up here and beg and plead and connect
the dots for people as to why it is so
important that we activate our capacity, we ain't picking prime dates.
This is a love island. It's not America's favorite couple.

(01:17:30):
We are picking people who are the least disruptive, the
least obstructive to our humanity and our citizenship. But when
people are disillusioned and disaffected, they really trying to hear
what we've got to say. They want to hear from
your ass directly. And unfortunately the class is taking boat
because you want this nomination how many months ago where
you're at bring your ass and if you awkward, okay,

(01:17:54):
and that's fine, you know, come back again and try to,
you know, make people forget about the last time you
were awkwer gotta get comfortable with black voters because I
am very scartical that white folks is gonna save the
day in twenty twenty five. Hopefully they'll save the day
in twenty twenty six. Right now, I ain't seeing it yet.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
And again it all depends upon the LOCALO because listen,
ain't that many of us in iour So we gonna
need no, no, it's not right something. But the point
is depend up on where you are. So where is
a whole lot of y'all white people. I'm gonna need
y'all to truly be woke and get and wake the
hell up and realize what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
But the bottom line is.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
But where there are places where our vote matters, then
we have got to maximize the hell.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Of our vote.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
That's what has to happen, right, and it can't happen
any other way.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
All right, let me go to a quick break. We
come back.

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Speaker 13 (01:20:43):
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How the Briding of America is making white folks lose
their minds. The book explains so much about what we're
going through in this country right now, and how as

(01:21:04):
white people head toward becoming a racial minority, it's going
to get well, let's just say even more interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
We're going to see more violence. We're going to see
more vitriol.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Because as each day passes, it is a nail in
that coffin, the one.

Speaker 13 (01:21:26):
And only Roland Martin on the next Black Table right
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Speaker 5 (01:21:33):
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Speaker 11 (01:21:35):
I am from Coastville, Pennsylvania, just an hour right outside
of Philadelphia.

Speaker 15 (01:21:39):
My name is Jasmine Pugh.

Speaker 7 (01:21:40):
I'm also from Coastal Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
You are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered, stay right here. Federal
Reserve Governor Lisa Cook has officially filed a lawsuit against
the twice impeached, criminally.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
Convicted felon con man in Chief Donald for his unpressured
and illegal effort to remove her from her position. In
the lawsuit, she seeks a legal declaration that Trump's efforts
to fire her are quote unlawful and void, asserting that
she remains an active member.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Of the board.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
Trump has reportedly sawt to the ouse Cook based on
allegations of mortgage fraud. Under the Federal Reserve Act, governors
can only be removed for costs, which requires proof of
misconduct or wrong doing. In Cook's case, no evidence has
been presented. She's made history as the first black woman
to serve on the board the world's most influential central bank,
which plays a crucial role in setting US interest rates.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
But she didn't just sue Trump. She also sued the
Federal Reserve, including chair Jerome Powell as well. Rec What
do you make of this?

Speaker 11 (01:22:43):
What I make of it is that Donald Trump has
figured out that attacking black woman is the quickest way
to a mass power without pushback. Of course, black women
ain't going to help without a fight, But the rest
of the country. Where is the reaction when Donald Trump
is writing Jerome Powell? The markets reacted and then Donald
Trump is like a just kidding, But he's seen time
and time again, three hundred thousand black women have lost

(01:23:04):
their jobs. If we say that we're ending DEI, nobody
cares about the fact that he's amassing all of this
outsized power over specific jobs in the federal government, which
you're supposed to be protected from political interference. This is
another example where he's playing into the trope of black
people stereotypes that we are corrupt, that we're incompetent, And

(01:23:26):
so then people turn this into whether this is about
evidence being presented, whether the charters are true or not.

Speaker 15 (01:23:32):
That has nothing to do with it.

Speaker 11 (01:23:34):
This is all about Donald Trump trying to interfere with
the FED so that he can get these rock bottom
low interest rates, which he's not going to get because
the Big Beautiful Bill explodes a deficit by trains of dollars.
But also this is about Projects twenty twenty five. One
of the aims of Project twenty twenty five is to eliminate.

Speaker 15 (01:23:52):
The Federal Reserve. They want to get rid of the
FED all together.

Speaker 11 (01:23:55):
And so when you start deconstructing the Board of Governors
and you start with black women or a black woman specifically,
with little to no pushback, then that allows them to
further erode the role and the integrity of the Federal Reserve, which,
by the way, the charge of the Federal Reserve is
full employment and low inflation. We know that the other

(01:24:16):
aid of the Project twenty twenty five is to remake
society so that there isn't full employment. They want a
permanent underclass, and they don't give a damn about how
much we're paying.

Speaker 15 (01:24:25):
Look at the tariffs.

Speaker 11 (01:24:26):
So I wish that people would stop feeling so comfortable
with attacks on black women because the way that he's
amassing power coming after black people, he gets to hold
on that power.

Speaker 15 (01:24:37):
And then when that power is.

Speaker 11 (01:24:39):
Yielded at your white ass, your Asian ass, yo Latino ass,
then it's going to be a fucking problem. But guess
what by then it's too damn late.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
No one.

Speaker 5 (01:24:50):
I agree.

Speaker 12 (01:24:50):
You know, reci gave a really good economic analysis and
I'll take it, you know, towards the political science angle
in terms of you know, this is the playbook. You
have a group, there's there's us versus them dynamic, and
then there's a low hanging fruit dynamic, which to him
are black women.

Speaker 5 (01:25:07):
And then you know, you also have.

Speaker 12 (01:25:11):
A dynamic where you are making sure that you are
inflicting pain. You want to be seen inflicting that pain
because you don't want a vibrant, working intellectual class. You know,
you don't want people in these jobs to question you,

(01:25:32):
to push back. You want loyalists in these jobs, or
you want or you want, like Reesy said, you want
these these agencies to disappear completely, just like what i'm usaid, right,
you don't want agencies in place that upset or can
could possibly disrupt your corrupt agenda. And the one thing
that Donald Trump is being effective with is making sure

(01:25:58):
that people understand that he will hurt you. That is
very clear. He wants everyone to know that he will
hurt you. And by these institutions complying bending the knee
early on, that did not help.

Speaker 5 (01:26:14):
Right, And to Reese's point, you.

Speaker 12 (01:26:16):
Know, this is how I honestly feel about the whole
situation with black women like me, like reci They don't
want us in these spaces.

Speaker 5 (01:26:24):
Anyway to begin with.

Speaker 12 (01:26:26):
They don't want the smart black woman in a room,
maybe decoratively, but for us to actually be effective, for
us to actually show up and do our jobs. That's
not what they want, which is why it was so
easy for so many of these countries to say bye
bye DEI, bye y'all. It was a nice low run,
see y'all next time when the next trend come around.

(01:26:48):
They didn't want to stare in the first place, so
these people were being exposed.

Speaker 5 (01:26:53):
But my point remains.

Speaker 12 (01:26:54):
This is authoritarian one oh one, and unfortunately, scarily the
next that is something far more dangerous when we are
talking about totalitarianism. And that's the stage of this that
I am really really worried about, because right now we
still have these platforms we can there's still some level

(01:27:14):
of freedom of speech, but those rights they're going to
come for those two.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Yeah, what he wants to do, Greg, he wants to
clear the field. We see this happen in Department of
Defense to do whatever he wants.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Because he doesn't.

Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
Want it, they're changing it to the Department of War.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
He doesn't want anyone anyone objecting, ignoring orders. This is
truly an administration of Seko fats cold followers.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
It is.

Speaker 13 (01:27:43):
There are a lot of different interests though, as we see,
Trump's interest is like his friend beating in Yahoo. I'm
trying to stay out of jail with the added incentive.
I'm trying to make all the money in the world.
The white nationalist agenda is white nationalism remember Roland, and
you'll notice is pretty much better than I. I mean,
I do interms the political side. Remember Eric Canter in Virginia.

(01:28:06):
Remember when they were trying to bail out the banks,
and Canter and his crazy ass people in Congress were
taking pride in that they was going to vote against
the too big to fail stuff. Uh, there's a new
new article in Mother Jones where the guy kind of
walks through that and he says, we are in fascism.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
Now there's we were past the tipping point.

Speaker 13 (01:28:26):
And he says, I look at that moment as the
moment when we should have realized, oh, there are people
in that party who would just watch the world burn.
So there's that element, you know, there's that element of it.
But this is a very interesting thing. First of all,
shout out to our sister Cook because he definitely hates
black women. I mean, and I understand why because underneath

(01:28:47):
that hatred is desired. But we'll talk about that another day.
Maybe we can ask O Morose to give us a
little feeling as to his true feelings deep down in
his heart of hearts. But at any rate, that not notwithstanding,
that's Trump's hang up.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
But let's be very clear.

Speaker 13 (01:29:02):
The vielin of this piece in many ways is that
nasty piece of work Russell vote. Because see, all this
is triggered, this particular case is triggered by one of
votes boys, Bill Poulti over there at FAHA, he been
combing through records, looking at people's mortgages, and so the
same thing they tried to hang on marilnd Moseby, the
same thing they tried to hang on Adam Shiff, the
same thing they tried to hang on attorneyship to Real

(01:29:24):
Tess James.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
They trying to hang on Lisa Cook.

Speaker 13 (01:29:26):
Because you've been scrubbing through the mortgages looking if you
can get a technicality, because the Federal Reserve says you
can't get her. I think she's confirmed through twenty thirty eight.
The only way you can get rid of a Federal
Reserve commissioner is by calls, and you can't. And she's
going to court like, you can't show me. I ain't
been convicted of no crime. Your little minion over there
scrubbing through the mortgages thinks he's got me on something.

(01:29:48):
But if you got me on something other than you
sitting up putting something on social media in the middle
of the night, sitting on your toilet in public housing
at sixteen Pennsylvania Avenue, charged me with something, then you
might have a.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
Point of entry. But don't. Now here's where it comes
down to John boy and Roberts. It is it's public housing.

Speaker 13 (01:30:07):
We're paying for it, right the job boy Roberts got
a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
Now remember in name, remember that.

Speaker 13 (01:30:13):
Supreme Court case Trump versus will Cox where another sister,
Remember they put off the National Labor Relations Board. She
sues gets the Supreme Court and robertson them are saying, well,
you know, we'll worry about the merits later in the interim.
We can't reinstate you. But there is one entity. It
ain't the National Labor Relations Board, It ain't any of
the cabinet level departments. There's one entity that we say

(01:30:36):
that you can't just go in there and do this too,
because it's too important and it's quasi private. Remember what
John Boyce said, it was the Federal Reserve. Now, Kataji, Brown,
Jackson and Soda mean you're and Kagan and like, what
the hell you doing? He can't do it anyway, But
oh so you're gonna carve out a special exception for
the Federal Reserve. The constitutional crisis that Lisa Cook is

(01:30:57):
going to force them to look down in the face,
is you gonna choose this white supremacy over any notion
of the rule of law. Because out your own mouth,
John Boy, you said the Federal Reserve is not one
of the entities that you can do this too. I
am loving it because I'm gonna tell you right now,
they don't have the muscle. No, seriously, they don't have
the muscle. They don't have the muscle to pull off

(01:31:19):
what Trump is trying. But while he's trying it, I
rid a aricle yesterday. Find out the times they're saying
that perhaps one day we'll look back and they will
call Donald Trump the father. He ain't gonna know Nobel Prize,
but he might be called the father of the bricks.
Why because Brazil, Russia, India and China, South Africa and
all them countries that design up with the bricks fifty

(01:31:39):
percent tarif on India.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
India is like, we're not giving up this Russian oil
and we got.

Speaker 13 (01:31:43):
Other people that a buy it to Knewboo, the President
of Nigeria, spent three days this week in Brazil because
Lula and Nimba looking at by latteral trade agreement. Donald
Trump is doing the world a favor by pulling the
United States back from its central place in world economies
and in this the world is moving on.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Now. This is to all you Ados negroes who love
your masters so much.

Speaker 13 (01:32:05):
If you Negros don't wise up and build some solidarity
politics with the rest of the world, you know what's
gonna happen. You're gonna burn in hell with the rest
of these hell buildies. This is the lesson we need
to be learning from this moment.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Well, Grant Gred to your point.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Look at Mexico now sing this gonna iPad suspending postals
to the United States. Japan has suspended postal shipments. So
what's about to happen All.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
These folks who've been ordering stuff from Pinterest and Etsy
and other places DHL suspending.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
See again, these folks want to be so native, is
so isolationists that they don't understand that we literally are
living in a global economy. They don't know what and
so it's like, okay, okay, y'all want to see the here,
y'all want to sit there in fafo.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
Okay, y'all about to find out.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
And so then because see that they're so dumb, because
they're walking around like, oh man, Trump is so brilliant,
know he not he throw the tear stuff out, causing
prices to spite go crazy, the bomb market going nuts,
and then they say, man, what you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Did he back down?

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
Is all over the place, and he just making myself
up as he goes along.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
But again, yes, but again, I keep saying this.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
It's not We're never gonna reach critical mass until enough
white people are in pain. So I keep if I
see another white person, who said one woman talking about
she about to lose her business and her daddy voted
for Trump. She been calling the white he been calling
the White House. He ain't getting through nobody. So I'm
telling y'all, I'm being white. My book is white fear.

(01:33:44):
This ain't gonna change until we deal with white pain
and white tears were gonna We gonna need white I'm
telling y'all. That's that's why they passed at big, ugly
nasty to speak up a bill.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
They delayed most of.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
The cuts till after the twenty twenty six election. So
like all y'all dumb asses, a whole bunch of y'all
dumb asses. Well, blade pie, look at this here my
tax is going up. No, yes, stupid ass. That was
the Trumpet tax cuts and they pushed that stuff to
twenty twenty three and twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
That's what happened. But again, excuse me because I know
how to read it. Some breaking news here.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
This is from Yeah, okay, so go to my iPad.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
This is from NBC News. Three officers ordered to have
new trials and the death of Tyree Nichols to Darius Bean,
Demetrius Haley, Justin Smith were found guilty in a twenty
twenty four federal trial. They were acquitted on state counts.
A Tennessee federal judge on Thursday ordered new trials for
three for the three cops. Now his was crazy, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
In a ruling, US District Judge Cheryl Lippman did not
find any biased decisions by the federal judge of the
twenty twenty four k's, as the officer's attorneys argued, but
she said new trials were warranted because of an alleged
comment the judge made following the trial at the Memphis
Police Department.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
Was quote infiltrated to the top with gang members the judge.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
The judge, Mark Norris, allegedly made the comment after his
law clerk was shot in the chest during a carjacking.
On October eighth, twenty twenty four, five days after the
federal jury convicted being Haley and Smith, according to court documents,
an assistant US attorney contended that they recall Norris expressed

(01:35:44):
that quote he could not meet with any member of
the Memphis Police Department to give a statement regarding the
shooting of his clerk as MPD as infiltrated to the
top with gang members. According to background of the case
cited by Lipmann, Lord have mercy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
And for all y'all people.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
And see, let me, let me go back to this
point recy. Remember how many of these dumb ass simple simon's
kept trying to tell us.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
Man, y'all keep making the big ass deal.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
But all these black federal judges Biden Hair suppointed that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Don't mean nothing. H Hello, Hello, this is the perfect example.
Federal judges have unbelievable power and they matter.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
And unfortunately this judge decided to, you know, get his
stupidity on.

Speaker 2 (01:36:45):
And now they get new trials.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
And remember the other cop who did not who didn't
plead guilty, they were found not guilty, so these casts
could get off.

Speaker 11 (01:36:58):
Yeah, because I mean, this is this is not a
problem that this new federal government is trying to solve.
Donald Trump one of the first order of business of
his DOJ was to back out of the consent decrees
at Kristen Clark that the Biden Harris administration got into
around the city of Memphis and other cities where we

(01:37:19):
had the racial reckoning around. Donald Trump has pardoned police officers.
They now have given the military the ability to carry
assault rifles in the streets of DC.

Speaker 15 (01:37:31):
And so Donald Trump ran on indemnity.

Speaker 11 (01:37:34):
The co I mean, the the federal judiciary as appointed
by Republicans, and even the state judiciary are all on
the same.

Speaker 15 (01:37:42):
Page that cops can act with impunity. Now, if Tyree.

Speaker 11 (01:37:46):
Nichols was a white man, we wouldn't be having this conversation,
they ask, would be locked up, throw away to key.
But as long as violence is being perpetrated against black people,
they got a friend in Jesus, with the MAGA, Republicans
and the legislature and the judiciary, and unfortunately in the
White House.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
And look, this is what the judge said, Nola. And
it's simple.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
What is required is not only an absence of actual bias,
but an absence of the MyPad But an absence of
even the appearance of judicial bias. The judge wrote that
the risk of bias here is too high to be
constitutionally tolerable, and that therefore the three officers deserve new trials.
I mean, it's we're glad to see that there's a

(01:38:29):
federal judge who has a a how places a high
value on integrity NOLA. Unfortunately, we don't see a lot
of that with Trump appointees.

Speaker 5 (01:38:43):
Yeah, I mean absolutely. You know what's so interesting.

Speaker 12 (01:38:48):
The through thread to everything that we've been talking about
tonight is how race is manipulated. And every single thing
that we've talked about tonight, starting with the first story
with Louisiana and showing that clip of Landry and how
he invoked Martin Luther King. I don't think it was
word Salad. I think it was intentional. I've seen this

(01:39:10):
up close with Republicans, the way that they will use race,
the way that they will say, well, we have the
first Secretary of State and we did this, and we
have this amount of black people. They will use they
will use examples of black people while at the same
time systemically taking things away from us. You know what

(01:39:31):
I'm saying, So it's this interesting game that they played
with race. And for me, this goes all the way
back to the Baki case, you know, nineteen seventy eight.
You see regions in Baki, the way that race whiteness
was used there. They don't have to say white because
they are the status quo. You have to say black,
and you have to say other because we are trying
to say we need representation because we are not the

(01:39:54):
status quo.

Speaker 5 (01:39:55):
So I say all that to say that.

Speaker 12 (01:39:57):
In this, you know, in this particular case, in my
personal opinion, Donald Trump is building his own, his own gang,
you know, and unfortunately a lot of them are in
law enforcement, and that is very unfortunate. The way that
they just reduced the requirements for the FBI. You know,
you no longer need to have a college degree. Not
to say that a college degree is the end all
and be all, but it does offer you some level

(01:40:20):
of analytical skills beyond high school. So he is building
a very specific type of army. And wouldn't you feel
some sort of you know, positive way towards an administration
that possibly got you off, you know what I'm saying,
because this might have looked very different in another administration.

Speaker 5 (01:40:40):
So by doing these sorts of things.

Speaker 12 (01:40:44):
You know, you are building a law enforcement, a military
that is beholden to King Donald Trump. And that is
the real danger that we are facing. It's going to
be more cases like this, unfortunately, and like Recie said,
when it's black bodies, nobody cares. And I am just

(01:41:04):
really worried about where all of this is going and
that gang that he is building to make sure that
he never comes out of sixteen hundred Pennsylvania A f.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
Greg.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
I'm pulling up this story here. Y'all might have remembered
seeing this. Uh, the black lawyer who was detained in
give me one second, have you say in Paul Butler,
the black lawyer who was detained in DC.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Paul Butler, Paul Butler was detained one second? One is
just their hold on who saw? Who saw? Ooh saw
who saw? Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:41:53):
I'm trying to pull his story up here. It's absolutely
hilarious story. Paul Bryant, attorney, Paul Bryant.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Listen to this. So this is listen. The magistrate judge
released the DC attorney in West Point Graduate from jail
on Thursday, said the government.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
Had as close to zero chance as possible at demonstrating
he was a danger to the community. This is perhaps
one of the weakest requests for detention I have seen,
in something that prior to two weeks ago would have
been unthinkable. In this courthouse, Magistrate Judge Zia Farooki said,

(01:42:34):
hold on, I gotta read more this. Farooki ordered Paul
Anthony Bryant, a Columbia Law School alum who deployed to
Afghanistan as a second lieutenant in the US Army Reserves,
released from the DC jail on minimal conditions. Brian will
have to surrender any firearms, but was not ordered to
hand over his passport. Now, these Trump idiots claimed that

(01:42:59):
he threatened a National guardsman. According to charging doctors, a
group of Ohio and Delaware National Guardsmen who are patrolling
Fourteenth Street Sunday evening reported Brian approached them and began
yelling things including these are our streets and allegedly I'll
kill you. Before leaving the area, Brian leedgedly threw his

(01:43:19):
left shoulder into one of the guardsmen's shoulders. DC police
officers arrested Brian two blocks away, and roughly an hour
and a half later, early Monday, morning. Police found a
handgun in Brown's possession, but determined it was legally registered
to him and he had a ballid concealed carry permit.
According to charging documents, the gun had one round in

(01:43:40):
the chamber. Brian told police the magazine was located in
his car. Now because National Guard troops patrolling DC don't
wear body cameras, Brown's attorney's a federal public defender, Alexis Gardner,
said there's no video of the alleged interaction. Another attorney,
who who filled in to represent Brian at Wis's hearing,
said charging doctors did not mention that Brian, who was black,

(01:44:01):
claimed it was members of the Guard who yelled slurs
at him. Brian took the unusual step of speaking out
against the charges in court Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
I would like to say.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
I think this course decision is disgusting, Brian said about.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
Harvey's initial rule that he would be temporarily detained. The
allegations against me are baseless. They are hearsay to charge
people for what's seemed to be lesser conduct and then
say they're so dangerous they have to be locked up.
Rooke said it puts prosecutors in an impossible situation. These

(01:44:36):
people are stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
They just they now greg. Also, they tried to indict
the dude who threw the hogy. He was the Department
of Justice employee and he threw the HOGI at at
at the officer. They tried hard to get a grand
jury indictment, and they did the proverbial you know black

(01:44:58):
people do yes sure right here, you know, when it
was somebody with.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Somebody, black dude is here.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
Down the grand jury literally went, don win't even doing
that that now they dropped charges. Not now he lost
his job Department Justice.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
But the grand jury's like, man.

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
We ain't indicting this man because he threw a savon
y'all tripping They what would they say?

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
He was carrying uh, an unconcealed weapon. It was HOGI.

Speaker 5 (01:45:33):
So ridiculous.

Speaker 13 (01:45:37):
I mean, you know, you know the running joke or
the running running, uh, the running saying as it comes
when it comes to prosecutors that a prosecutor can get a.

Speaker 3 (01:45:45):
Grand jury to indict a ham sandwich within.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
This not this time.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
Uh, they said, I'm sorry, no, no, no, no no no, no,
you're right. They could They could indict on a ham sandwich,
but not a Philly cheese steak, but not a Philly.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
Chees hit right now to ho going to get the
Philly cats mad.

Speaker 13 (01:46:05):
They're making the stage doing the Chiefs taking a hog
in a minute, but fourteenth and you, I mean the
jokes right themselves right first of all, in the real
estate violence that has occurred in DC over the last
twenty years that I did that, there'll be a white
man walking down U.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
Street in the middle.

Speaker 13 (01:46:21):
I mean, it's just like wow, and then running in
a pink polo and anyway, the joke's right now.

Speaker 3 (01:46:27):
But you know what I'm saying, O U Street this
is anyway.

Speaker 13 (01:46:31):
But what I guess I'm about to say, though, is
that it's three hundred and thirty million people in this
country what they are trying to do. And again this
is right out the playbook of Stephen Bannon Russell voting
them throw everything against the wall and try to get
people in the Jedi mind trick to believe you got
that kind of muscle. The cos play in this is

(01:46:53):
so absurd at this point. You know, now you're going
to invade Chicago. Now you're gonna invade la Well, Brandon
Johnson is standing there with the Governor of Illinois, and
they like, bring it on. Wes Morris like, I served,
why don't you come up Let's do a ride along? Baby,
you wanna dance with me? Come on to Baltimore. Brandon
Scott like I got you. You want a cop card,
a Trump, come on up here. They don't have the muscle. Friends,

(01:47:16):
what they're trying to do is this kind of cosplay,
shocking all. If they wanted to occupy all of this country,
they don't have the muscle. However, if we allow them
to continue this terrorism, this domestic terrorism, we are going
to fund ourselves with so much pent up anger.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
I was having this conversation with my students this afternoon.

Speaker 13 (01:47:39):
On one side, you got these young people who come
to Howard, who come to George Washington or Georgetown. Who
are your students, Nola, who are my students? They gonna
try to stay out of trouble. If they see something
go down, they're gonna kind of put their head down it.
Then you go deeper down in the class structure. You
got these hood joints who are out here cussing out
the police, shoulder to shoulder with some of these white people.

(01:48:03):
To Steve Miller mad At because they all need taking
nap whatever they shouting them down, and if we continue
to look away.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
I was at Martin U.

Speaker 13 (01:48:14):
King Library there. I went down there to pick up something.
I went around the corner as a Catholic church there.
Sometimes I'll go into Catholic church. I'll go into church
just to sit down, just to be quiet. I ain't
there to pray. I might be reading them. I couldn't
go into church because it was closed. But what I
saw was fresh chains with locks on the steps. Because
I know the unhoused often sleep there. Churches are now

(01:48:39):
barring the unhoused from being able to sleep on their steps.
And that's what they want us to do. They want
us to be so afraid of these punk ass Confederates
coming from the Confederate States to walk and stand around
at metro stops and at Union Station, and Sean Duffy,
ignorant and competent ass want to take over Union Station
so you can harass the under If we allow this

(01:49:03):
cosplay to persist, they're gonna run up into some situations
that they are absolutely not prepared. I'm not supporting violence.
I'm not saying it should be violent, but I'm saying
that people are tired, and if history shows us anything
in a country of three hundred and thirty million people,
y'all keep this shit up.

Speaker 3 (01:49:24):
Keep it up here.

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
Well, speaking speaking of running up on, running up on
some folk, gott heated at the US Open yesterday when
American Taylor Townsend beat that ass so for a French
Open champion, Julna Ostapenko, in straight sets. I mean she
whooped her ass. So this happened after the match was over.

Speaker 20 (01:49:49):
To to finish for the flourished there and didn't she
just s so very well time la moment went fight
three down in the opening sets. So this one no
love lost between these two.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
No, I don't have a right thing, you know for sure.

Speaker 20 (01:50:30):
It's tell that sounds unscite for backing.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Down, not at all.

Speaker 8 (01:50:35):
And you can see that emotion coming out of Taylor
there the entire court on quart eleven, Taylor.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
Egging get on. You'd love to see that competitive fight.
All she's been through well.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
Townsend later explained the threats off the pink coat made
to her.

Speaker 21 (01:50:55):
Taylor, congratulations, fiery match, start to finish.

Speaker 7 (01:50:58):
We'll get to it all.

Speaker 21 (01:50:59):
Can you fill us in the conversation you were having
with the Elena out there.

Speaker 22 (01:51:02):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's competition. People get upset
when they lose, and you can't. Some people say bad things.
She told me, I have no class, I have no education,
and to see what happens when we get outside the US.
So I'm looking forward to it. I mean, I beat
her in Canada outside the US. I beat her in
New York outside the US. So let's see what else
she has to say.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
Today, Nailmi Osaka, she won her match against another sister and.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
She had a couple of things to say. Watch this.

Speaker 15 (01:51:34):
I can't speak on what her intentions were.

Speaker 22 (01:51:37):
I can only speak on how I handle the situation
and how.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
I that was talented speaking. I'm gonna play in the second,
but I want to hear what Osaka had to say.

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
Listen to this.

Speaker 21 (01:51:52):
When a player gets so angry that they would use
where it's like no education in no class to criticize
a black player, and when those kind of words have
a bad history in this country and kind of unfair,
I mean, how do you react or something like that
when you're hear that.

Speaker 19 (01:52:11):
Yeah, I mean I saw that part. Obviously. It's been
on the TV like every fifteen minutes. I mean, that's
really difficult to say. I think, obviously it's one of
the worst things that you can say to a black
tennis player in a majority white sport. And granted, I

(01:52:34):
know Taylor, and I know how hard she's worked, and
I know how smart she is, so she's the furthest
thing from uneducated or anything like that. But if you're
like genuinely asking me about the history of Asta Pinko,
I don't think that's the craziest thing she said. I'm
gonna be honest. I think it's ill timing and the

(01:53:00):
worst person you could have ever said it to. And
I don't know if she knows the history of it
in America, but I know she's never gonna say that
ever again in her life. But yeah, I mean, just
it's just terrible, Like that's just really bad.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
Okay, I I could reach it. Look like you want
to say something, because I see the look on your
face right now.

Speaker 11 (01:53:34):
I mean, Chad Nick, Now, I ain't gonna bring the energy,
but I'll get an energy.

Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
Buck.

Speaker 15 (01:53:38):
Oh stank, oh.

Speaker 11 (01:53:39):
Raggedy ass soul, loser ass bitch.

Speaker 15 (01:53:41):
I'm so tired. I've seen all of these articles.

Speaker 11 (01:53:45):
Talking about uh, altercation.

Speaker 15 (01:53:48):
It was not altercation.

Speaker 11 (01:53:50):
It was a salty ass loser who was mad because
she got that ass wal Molly walked all up and
down the court, and she thought that she was gonna
check Taylor Townsend. But Taylor Townsen is a grown ass
black woman who was like, I ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
Gotta say side that.

Speaker 7 (01:54:06):
I thought, what the fuck are you?

Speaker 11 (01:54:07):
And so I'm glad that, oh whoever hell found out,
this ain't no Missmillly, energy over here. This ain't no
you know all I've done for you people, energy over
here over here in America, Black folks, we can buck
up if we want to. If you want a nook,
we can butck But Taylor kept it cute and keptain classy. Now,
I don't know if y'all go back, go back and
watch the video again, look at the system in the

(01:54:28):
pink sat and scark.

Speaker 15 (01:54:30):
She was ready to turn up. She was like, if
I have to.

Speaker 11 (01:54:32):
Come on the car, I'm whooping ass because all that fingershit.

Speaker 15 (01:54:36):
That's an ass whooping. That's an ass whooping.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
But Taylor, so hello, hello, Rizi Richie. You said the
system where.

Speaker 15 (01:54:43):
In the stance?

Speaker 19 (01:54:45):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:54:45):
Hold on, hold on, wait wait wait, wait, hold on
hold up, hold up, so keep the bikes up.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
Roll the video so reche get narrated because I didn't
see what.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
She Come on, come on here play no no, no,
no fast for y'all fast for come on all right
now go ahead, let's see. All right, bring an audio
down on a video, y'all, thank you. Bring the audio
down a video. So Resa got in there with the
so she can tell me the sisters.

Speaker 11 (01:55:08):
All right, clok, all right, she's telling her, Oh you
do you woo the woodhull.

Speaker 15 (01:55:12):
Taylor's like, bitch, learn how to lose.

Speaker 11 (01:55:14):
Lose with dignity because you ain't busting none of the
grave over here.

Speaker 15 (01:55:17):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (01:55:18):
You lost, Get over it. Deal with the bobby half
the day that you deserve. You ain't ship goodbye, pack
your bag. It's a guy, okay. So all that is happening.
You see you see the aunties, you see okay, look
at the black people. Look to the black people, all right, sis,
Then the pink they gonna show her when they're paning out,
sits there in the pink. Look at her act shit
pumping her chest.

Speaker 7 (01:55:37):
She's like, that's what tell us we'll get her aid.

Speaker 15 (01:55:42):
When in New York. See, they was ready to get active.

Speaker 11 (01:55:45):
And that's why Taylor she hyped to She's like, look,
I was classy.

Speaker 15 (01:55:48):
Over there, but I'm over here with both people.

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
We're ready to get booked.

Speaker 15 (01:55:55):
Yeah, and so that's the energy. But you know, we
got our own language. She didn't say all that.

Speaker 1 (01:56:00):
Well, well, Taylor is Taylor is from Atlanta. Uh And
as matter of fact, I think later, I'm trying to
find the video.

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
Oh here it is. Oh damn it, wherey to go?

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
Uh so Taylor, I guess she was getting the massage
or something, and uh she said this here go to
my iPad.

Speaker 5 (01:56:22):
I'm talking about other people crashing out into us. Okay, no, mother,
but I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (01:56:33):
Bring moll.

Speaker 11 (01:56:52):
Like She's like, I kept classy, but see what happen
is Tanah Towns.

Speaker 15 (01:56:55):
And she rewinded ship.

Speaker 11 (01:56:57):
She was like, damn, I kept it cute, like I
told her, you know, learn how to lose better, have
a nice dag, great gameplay. But but but the sister
and her is eating her up a little bit that she.

Speaker 15 (01:57:07):
Didn't go a little bit harder. And now she get
to ask about it, and she's like, no, this bitch
did and she lost. I don't have to bow down
to you. You're a loser.

Speaker 11 (01:57:14):
I'm a winner. Take the l go home. So yeah,
I want you tell her like we support you. You
did the right thing. But she only get one time
to get booked. She only get one time to put
the finger in all that ship. And now she don't notice.

Speaker 5 (01:57:29):
I don't know what Naomi, Naomi, it wasn't the first time.

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
That's what I'm seeing her.

Speaker 1 (01:57:34):
Okay, see the reason I got a problem. No, what
Naomi said was like, well maybe she did.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
No, no, no, no no. The helper knew what she
was saying. I know each other. Well, she ain't from here, she'll.

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
No no, no, no, no no, she's she questioned her intellect.
She you ain't got that. She questioned her intellect and class.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
No one knew what she was saying.

Speaker 5 (01:58:02):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 12 (01:58:04):
Do you know how many racists Russians walk this planet.
They think Ukrainians are black. Y'all need to understand the
dynamics here. They literally treat black people and the rest
of the folks from the rest of the I A. N.

Speaker 5 (01:58:20):
S and T Djikostan.

Speaker 12 (01:58:21):
All the fans like y'all need to understand these are
some of the most racists people on the planet.

Speaker 5 (01:58:26):
They are, in fact, the og racist.

Speaker 12 (01:58:29):
I have a friend who was beating this Russian woman
and he wouldn't say she was white. He's like, oh,
she doesn't think like that. She doesn't believe us, like
you can be delusion all you want to be. They
are the original racist, trust and believe. So I am
not shot at all that she came at her like that.
And you know, I guess Naomi was trying to keep
it cute. She at work, but we're not about to
sit here and give her the benefit of the doubt.

(01:58:50):
She knew exactly what she was saying and how she
was saying it. And in Trump's America, she felt like
she was going to be supported and validated in that
level intolerance and racism.

Speaker 5 (01:59:01):
And I'm happy that nay on Me kept it cute.

Speaker 12 (01:59:05):
But at the same time she kept it cute.

Speaker 1 (01:59:10):
But what no, what I was no, what I was about,
what I was about to say is again, if y'all
let me set it up, don't Lord have mercy?

Speaker 2 (01:59:22):
Okay this to me.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
I know she from Atlanta, but I think she should
bring a little Memphis out.

Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
That's what I That's what I think.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
I know, I think I think it needs to be No, no, no,
I think it needs to be I think we need
to go if she really gonna do that. I think
if you're gonna really, really really do that, you need
to go ahead. And yeah, bring the music up.

Speaker 7 (01:59:45):
Come on, don't you see?

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
Was I learned what you.

Speaker 7 (01:59:59):
Think I have run up in here? I ain't even shy.

Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
Wook that trick book, that trick wook that trick.

Speaker 13 (02:00:13):
Yeah, lord, I.

Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
Mean it's like gret like he.

Speaker 1 (02:00:25):
As they say, if you want to get frog here,
if you want to get froggy, let's go.

Speaker 13 (02:00:32):
But but you know, it's interesting, Roland, we think about
this boxing, tennis, golf, the whole team is one person.

Speaker 3 (02:00:42):
It's always been race war.

Speaker 13 (02:00:43):
It's been race war since the days of Jack Johnson,
Joe Lewis, you know, you know, and and there were
you know, to the.

Speaker 3 (02:00:49):
Young people a little bit.

Speaker 13 (02:00:50):
Younger, and then we are with Tiger Woods burst on
the scene in the late nineties. There had been a gap.
There was Calvin Pete and you know, Jim Thorpe and
those guys. But then Tiger was unbeatable and so the
racism just came out. But he didn't give a damn.
As Gary said at the beginning the show, he just
ran up the score. Y'all can't catch me if y'all
Tennis has a similar arc between the Williams sisters and

(02:01:13):
Althea Gibson. The name that comes to mind is your homie.
I think she's out of Houston, right, Xena Garrison.

Speaker 3 (02:01:18):
Yep, Bazena. Never she got close. She was high ranked
in it.

Speaker 13 (02:01:23):
But when the Williams sisters come on, remember that were
story of the story about how the white women didn't
want to dress with them in the locker room, but
they had each other. And so now, however, let's fast
forward to now you got Sloan Stephens, you got Coco Goff,
you got the young girl the Central African out of Canada,
now Victoria and Boco. You got Osaka is almost like
a little bit of an elder state ohever Osaka.

Speaker 2 (02:01:45):
Osaka beat a girl named Baptist, a black girl today
what I'm saying today.

Speaker 1 (02:01:50):
And then of course you got plus you got Madison.

Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
Keys she lost earlier Keys yep, exactly.

Speaker 13 (02:01:57):
And so what you now have is a critical mass
of black women. And these black women, you know, I'm
the oldest in my family. So I always you know,
I like Venus because Venus was the oldest, and Venus
went first. But let's be clear, Venus, they could kind
of even though they hated black women. They say, she's
kind of like a Swan. You know how they the
dehumanized black women that sister today. Look Listen, she looked

(02:02:21):
like nineteen ninety nine Serena Williams, the Serena I'll stuff
this tennis ball down your throat. Remember when they was
after this, I stuffed it, told the judge. But she
busting out that dress, we go, I.

Speaker 3 (02:02:32):
Will beat your natural ass out here at the US Open.

Speaker 13 (02:02:35):
And so when then she started putting that fact, I'm saying, now,
let's be clear, though, Osta Pinko, her daddy, I think
was a former Latvian football player, and she looked like it.

Speaker 3 (02:02:44):
But go back to the late nineties. Remember the Swiss.

Speaker 13 (02:02:48):
Miss Martina Hingis who they tried to play off when
she was against it.

Speaker 3 (02:02:53):
Oh, she she plays with such precision. And then finally
the Williams sisters after they finally dispatched her ass, nobody
remember hangs. Now, I do think and I agree with
you knowing these Europeans, particularly those Eastern Europeans.

Speaker 13 (02:03:07):
As du Boy said, the color line belts the world.
I think what Osaka did was kind of very interesting
because she's a little older, so she's now between the
Williams sisters and this new Cropper sisters. So she was
kind of saying, look, I'm willing to give her a
little bit of the benefit of the doubt because she's
from Latvia.

Speaker 3 (02:03:24):
And she said crazier stuff than that. And if you
know the history of European you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 13 (02:03:31):
No, no, but it's still it's the same point in
it because you know that whole map like the back
of your hand better than I ever will. So that
kind of mentality is coming in some places in ways
from how we are perceived internationally because the social media
and everything are they looking like these are uneducated, these
black girls.

Speaker 3 (02:03:48):
So you know, I'm saying all that to get to
this point.

Speaker 13 (02:03:52):
I have a colleague, Coco Nichols Khalia Nichols, who's there
at Norfolk State. She puts something on social media that
I thought was interesting today in the wake of this.
She said, y'all don't never ask these white women. Y'all
never ask the white girls these questions. But guess what
this new crop of black women. I'm loving the fact
that not only are they gonna not gonna back down,
they're gonna.

Speaker 3 (02:04:11):
Beat your ass.

Speaker 13 (02:04:13):
And as they get and they get their thing, Osaka
is willing to say. You know what, I can fall
back and say this little thing to fuck with y'all
because in those locker rooms they got a squad. Now
it ain't just Venus and Serena, it ain't just Xena,
it ain't just out there. They got a whole ass
squad and they had now ass whippings. So keep your
cool sense, put your thing on social media. Then white

(02:04:33):
girls is mad. Guess what they're gonna be mad for
the next twenty years because ass whippings are lining up
and little black girls are taking tennis rackets. These are
the daughters of Venus and Serena, and it's more of
them on the way to get used to it.

Speaker 1 (02:04:44):
Yeah, man, And keep in mind, although you know, I
guess she's coming almost she's retired or not, but you
gotta remember twenty seventeen years Open, Sloan Stevens. She's commenting
the US Open. But this could y'all all right, come on.

Speaker 2 (02:04:59):
Come on, come on. Uh, so she's the same thing
as well.

Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
And don't forget what when the other crate I don't
need where that woman I'm from from when Cocoa golf
beat the ass at Wimbledon and homegirl will act to
the fold all this sort of stuff like that. You know,
it's hey, I get I forgot, I forgot which movie was,
But uh said, take the ass with a black a man,
take the ass with a black woman.

Speaker 2 (02:05:22):
I mean just I mean, I mean, look when you
when you.

Speaker 1 (02:05:27):
Get beat and you get your ass beating straight set,
just gone ahead, shake hands, sit your ass down, click
your rackets and your bag, and take you ass at
the airport. I mean, I'm just saying, I mean just
I mean that that that's how it is. And so, uh,
I had a same feeling when I play some people
in golf. Take that ass whooping, don't hit take it

(02:05:47):
as go ahead, take it and then if you don't
want to get your ass.

Speaker 2 (02:05:50):
Whooped, go practice some more. I mean that's that. I
mean that that's the way you can change it. I
mean that that's the way you can shift this thing.
But I'm just simply saying, you know so, But yeah,
they acting the fool.

Speaker 1 (02:06:01):
I mean, this's like, oh yeah, yeah, wait, but I
love it, Like, yeah, wait till I beat you, wait
till I get you.

Speaker 2 (02:06:07):
Out of the country. She's like, I whooped your ass
out the country.

Speaker 5 (02:06:12):
Like I'm confused, I forgot how to blaze, Like I like.

Speaker 2 (02:06:19):
She's like, you know, I've beat you out the country.

Speaker 11 (02:06:24):
Right, You're trying to say, way till we get to
Europe and they throwing banana.

Speaker 15 (02:06:28):
Pills and ship you want to take abuse outside of
the country.

Speaker 11 (02:06:34):
But the Black Girls is popping internationally.

Speaker 15 (02:06:38):
Okay, take your little pipe dream and go ahead and
go crying to call pack.

Speaker 11 (02:06:43):
Your bags, that bitch hopefully you know old premium economy
upgrade on your way back to that again.

Speaker 2 (02:06:49):
I meant.

Speaker 1 (02:06:51):
I would I love I listen, I love playing golf,
trash talking. Trash talking works like you know, ass whoopings
do travel see Taylor, y'all know, I'm petty Taylor did
it right. I would have been like I would have
been like, let's be ass. Weapons are not domestic.

Speaker 3 (02:07:10):
No question. But she did it right. She did it right.

Speaker 15 (02:07:14):
Let's stay this path going internationally exactly.

Speaker 3 (02:07:18):
Did she did it right? She did it right. You're right,
she did it right.

Speaker 9 (02:07:23):
I still would be.

Speaker 13 (02:07:24):
Look, I would love to be a fly on the
wall when those sisters talk offline, because you know they
be together.

Speaker 3 (02:07:30):
I'm should have got a group chat.

Speaker 13 (02:07:32):
Well, I wish I could see all you might have said, y'all,
I got this, I got.

Speaker 2 (02:07:36):
You already know this, you already know, you already know
the black girl group chat was hot. Oh man, I'm saying,
we're here for it. You keep the class and you
keep it cute and then right because we're here.

Speaker 21 (02:07:50):
If you.

Speaker 11 (02:07:52):
The motherfuckers all over here, over here and out, I'm
letting loose. I'm dragging that ass. I ain't got a
problem with it. I'll be I'll be not educated, I'll
be class with I got you since don't worry.

Speaker 5 (02:08:03):
Right, I'll be all the things I got you.

Speaker 15 (02:08:06):
Yeah, I'll be all the things because I don't give
it down exactly right.

Speaker 13 (02:08:10):
Well, you need they need some of that William's sisters,
because you remember how they used to do it. They
would they had that little sing song, he answered. Serena
was best at this. She might say something like well
and then smiling, you know, yeah, it's beautiful, beautiful, Yeah, yeah,
exactly at Wimbledon in front of the Queen.

Speaker 3 (02:08:30):
Take that competent.

Speaker 1 (02:08:32):
I will continue, I will continue to be petty. Say yes,
I will continue to be petty, whether we're talking about
Taylor Townsend or some people who can't open the school
after ten years, after after.

Speaker 12 (02:08:51):
Ten years, after ten years.

Speaker 3 (02:08:55):
I mean, such an easy target. It's not all just
simply saying.

Speaker 15 (02:09:01):
Always got that, he always got that.

Speaker 1 (02:09:03):
Let me also, let me also just be real clear, Uh,
dollar day, let me let me let.

Speaker 2 (02:09:10):
Me also just be real clear.

Speaker 1 (02:09:12):
Uh if anyone out here is talking about who is
uh the most accomplished black scholar in the country, y'all
would be confused.

Speaker 5 (02:09:30):
People have said those words about him in the same sentence.

Speaker 2 (02:09:34):
Just sit by yourself just saying I mean, I I
will I mean, I mean, if we're gonna talk about
I Lee against Chuck Weaponer, it's great car against oh No.

Speaker 11 (02:09:49):
Back in front of the book, doctor Carr, It's good
to see the book came back from Africa.

Speaker 3 (02:09:54):
You already know. Listen.

Speaker 13 (02:09:55):
Look, I'm glad I don't mess with I know Umar
alone time man is a tragedy. I think I mean
you remember Roland, I mean he came over to TV
one messing with you. I mean the guy Umar wants
to do right by black people, I think. But the
problem he has is the problem with anybody who tries
to do what he's doing the way he's doing. Get

(02:10:15):
his You can't do nothing by yourself, man, You can't
do nothing by yourself. When I think about all the
people who should be collaborating what you're rolling and collaborating
with Black Star, who are now trying to collaborate with
each other and work around. No, you can't do anything
by yourself. Umar can't open a school by yourself. Man,
you can't raise enough money you buy a building, how

(02:10:36):
you're gonna pay staff. He could have had a charter
school twenty years ago. He is He was a licensed
school psychologist. He was an itinerant psychologist in Philadelphia. When
I first met Umar, he was working in the African
Center Network kept her charter school.

Speaker 3 (02:10:49):
He would talk.

Speaker 13 (02:10:49):
You know, he could have had a school, but you
no woman is an island, No man is an island.
And he got jammed up. And now he's become a caricature.
And it's a tragedy, it really is. But in that
moment now when they come for you, it's people eating
off him. They're on YouTube making videos, dragging, making videos.

(02:11:10):
I just I mean to me the lesson that Lumar
Johnson is quite simple. Despite your intentions, your ego can
have you destroyed. We got to work together and now
we laugh at him, and it's kind of a tragedy.
I'm sure i'll see you Mark again, coming back and
forth in Philly, and I'm sure he's gonna be just
as double and quadrupled down ten toes down on where

(02:11:32):
he is. But at this point, now you got to
tax people after you, You got to stay to Delaware
after you. You got the city of Wilmington after you,
and your punchline. I don't know how he gets out
of this. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:11:45):
I am very clear, and I've said this here and listen,
it's a whole lot going on. You look at what's
happening with uncle nearest. Yes, yes, one hundred and eight
Legni loans uh and people and people are like, nah, no,
don't be going after fon, don't be.

Speaker 2 (02:12:07):
Let me just be be very clear.

Speaker 1 (02:12:10):
And I don't celebrate anybody downfall, demise, going through rough things.
But I'm gonna say this to people, and this is
free when you're trying to build something, you focus on
the basics. When you're trying to build something, you always

(02:12:37):
watch the money. And then the second thing is you
always watch the person who watches the money, and then
what you do is and then there's literally nothing wrong.
And again, let me real clear to anybody, I'm not equating
the two when I'm talking about all of these things

(02:12:59):
people being people.

Speaker 2 (02:12:59):
Are talking about. When we're talking about building businesses and
building schools, building black on media, building these things.

Speaker 1 (02:13:10):
When you're trying to build something, what you cannot do
is spend time worrying about what other folks are saying.
You have to focus on building. But see, in the
case of the aforementioned individual, when you claim you led

(02:13:30):
to my show being canceled, we know that was a lie.

Speaker 3 (02:13:34):
Oh come on, but this is.

Speaker 1 (02:13:36):
The thing that I had to say to all of
them talkers out there on YouTube and them talkers on
social media that if you add all of them up,
they still don't even equal our size. Do you know why,
because we didn't spend any time on them.

Speaker 2 (02:13:56):
We don't make videos about them.

Speaker 3 (02:14:00):
That's right, because.

Speaker 1 (02:14:01):
This ain't actually about them. You focus on building. See
if Roland was going to build a school, I wouldn't
try to build an elementary school, middle school, in a
high school. If I was going to build a school,
I would start with K through three, right, and then

(02:14:23):
I would build four through six. Then I would build
six through eight, then I would build nine through twelve.
You know what, the building it may take some time. See,
it's a lot of people who had a whole lot
to say when we started seven years ago. Next Thursday,

(02:14:49):
there's a lot of people. Ah, look that ain't nobody
watching you Look at them views, Look at them views.

Speaker 2 (02:14:56):
Never understanding what our strategy was. Oh, y'all can't. It's
like Neil Mayah. Neil Maya said, don't listen to the haters.
Keep building.

Speaker 1 (02:15:08):
See when you spend so much time talking, then you
ain't focused on the fundament of your business. So what
I'm saying to our folk, whether I don't care what
you're trying to build, focus on building it and not
trying to be a celebrity, because you know what people.

Speaker 2 (02:15:28):
Are going to remember. They're not gonna remember your viral videos.
They gonna remember what you built.

Speaker 5 (02:15:38):
On this case, what you say.

Speaker 1 (02:15:42):
No no, in this case, they don't remember what you
didn't build, So people need to understand that. And so
it's a lot of things that people are learning out here,
and it's a lot of things that our people need
to also learn and not get caught up in the
celebrity of entrepreneurship, because let me tell y'all something, I

(02:16:05):
know a whole lot of black entrepreneurs and a whole
lot of black educators who built schools, and y'all don't
see y'all don't hear about them. They not talking, they
not posting, they're not doing no Nicki Minaj's challenge. They're
not doing anything. You know what they're doing. They got
their head down and they'll focused on the product. And

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that's where the folk should be learning from and that's
what we should be taking away from it.

Speaker 2 (02:16:38):
So again, to the.

Speaker 1 (02:16:41):
People who love to run their mouths about what we
do here, what we don't do, what we should be doing,
I literally don't watch or hear you, because I know
next Thursday we'll be celebrating in seven years when a
whole bunch of people never even got to set money on.

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And trust me, I'm unveiling something next Thursday, which is
the next evolution and the next step on the Black
Study Network. So y'all tune in next Thursday. And again
to all the folks who keep running their mouth hating,
it's a little hard for me to hear you when

(02:17:24):
you way back there, see Greg Nola, thanks for being
on today's show. Thank you so very much. I appreciate it.
Tomorrow tomorrow, y'all heard me mention Uncle Neary's you listen listening?

Speaker 2 (02:17:44):
What's going what's happening with Slutdy Vegan. I'm gonna have
a business expert on tomorrow because we want to talk
about that.

Speaker 1 (02:17:50):
We want to talk about because there are a lot
of people out there. It's a lot of folks who
love talk about entrepreneurship who don't even know what that
thing requires. And so I'm gonna have that conversation tomorrow
right here, Rolling Martin Unfiltered on the Blackstart Network.

Speaker 2 (02:18:05):
All right, y'all support to worth we do again. We
celebrate seven years next week.

Speaker 1 (02:18:11):
Seven years since we launched Rolling Unfiltered, four years since
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Your support has been critical.

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We've had more than thirty six thousand and thirty six
thousand dollars since we launched. That first check was a
five hundred dollars check from a ninety two year old
black woman in Long Island, New York. And we have
been building ever since. And again we've been focused on
the work.

Speaker 9 (02:18:33):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:18:34):
Just put our head down doing needs to be done.
That's what we've been doing. Okay, that's what we've been doing.
That's what we've been building, that's what we've been focusing on.
And so your support is critical because again, we ain't
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helping them just get sharing my thoughts with them.

Speaker 2 (02:18:57):
At a conversation a.

Speaker 1 (02:18:59):
Couple of weeks ago with a sister who's taken over
the editorial duties at a legacy black media brand. And
so I have these conversations all the time. They're not
always public, and I do that because I share with
people the lessons that we've learned, things that we've done

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that didn't work out, things that we've done that didn't
work out, because this is.

Speaker 2 (02:19:24):
Not about competition, This is not about that at all.

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This is about how do we build a black ecosystem,
a black owned media ecosystem. I'm having a conversation with
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I don't have a problem sharing information with them because
that's what we should be doing, and so we're going

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to be doing that. But your support is critical for
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We want to close out the year between September fourth
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First, we want to close.

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Out to hit our target of a million dollars that
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Fan based folks. That's it.

Speaker 1 (02:22:23):
Let me shout out my man wark Done. I'm wearing
this is one of the golf shirts.

Speaker 2 (02:22:27):
This is actually from last year and that's a really
nice golf shirt. So let me shout out war Done.

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His foundation, the work that they do helping families get
into homes and partnership have that for humanagery.

Speaker 2 (02:22:38):
So I'm rocking rocking his shirt along with.

Speaker 1 (02:22:42):
My my Bailey hat. Yeah, this is my Bailey hat,
not a stetson or Cody James. This is my Bailey hat.
So wonder weather silvery today. All right, y'all, I gotta go.
I'll see out tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (02:22:54):
Hey, what interview is coming up after the show. We
had fan base yesterday, all right, THETU

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