MAGA Racism Exposed, VA’s Historic Race, Day 14 Shutdown, D’Angelo’s Death Shocks Neo-Soul

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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Racist Maggots Exposed.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Political obtained thousands of private messages exposing young GP leaders
joking about slavery, racism, rape, gas chambers using the N word. No,
we're not shocked us what they are. It's always an

(01:03):
election happening. In November, Virginia will elect his first ever
woman governor, and we'll talk with the Democratic candidate right
here on the show. Plus early voting begins today in
Georgia's municipal and special elections, including a closely watched mayor
race in Marietta.

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We'll talk to one of the candidates.

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Day fourteen, the government's shut down and the deadlocke in
DC shows no signs of breaking.

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Speaker 2 (02:49):
All right, folks, welcome to the show. Glad that you
are here. Let's get right into this. Political got their
hands on thousands of private messages of these young GLP leaders.
It was in this app call telegram they were joking
about all sorts of different things, gas chambers, slavery, rape,

(03:11):
using the N word, all sorts of stuff, political call
the headline I Love Hitler. Linked messages exposed Young Republicans
racist chat where they referred to black people as monkeys
and the watermelon people, and mused about putting their political
opponents in gas chambers. Kansas Young Republicans Vice chair William Hendricks,

(03:33):
former vice chair the New York State Young Republicans, Bobby Walker,
and chairman of the Association of New York State We're
Young Republicans Club, Peter Gionta were among the Republican leaders
named in the report. Gionta reportedly apologized, saying, quote, I
am so sorry to those offended by the insensitive and
inexcubable language found within the more than twenty eight thousand

(03:55):
messages of a private group chat that I created during
my campaign to lead the Young Republicans. Hmm, the twenty
eight hundred pagees of chats shared among Young Republicans between
January and mid August. A few of these folks no
longer have jobs. Well, guess what y'all hear a few
of the leaked messages. Let's go to the first one.

(04:16):
Look what it says right here.

Speaker 7 (04:18):
Hmmm.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Everyone that votes know is going to the gas chamber,
and everyone that endorsed but then votes for us is
going to to the gas chamber. What when do we
start bullying?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
We have three solid people who can probably have them
want to jump if they vote for us, why would
they be gas?

Speaker 1 (04:37):
When do we bring that side out?

Speaker 2 (04:39):
I'm going to create some of the greatest physiological torture
methods known to man. Can we fix the we only
want true believers. Can we fix the showers? Gas chambers
don't fit the Hitler esthetic. I'm ready to I'm ready
to watch people burn. Now we've got to pretend that.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
We like them.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Hey, come on in, take a nice shower and relax. Boom,
they're dead.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Hmm. Okay, that's how we do it. Let's see here.
Let's go to the next one. Uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I had some back and forth with the VC in Michigan.
Current chair is a deer in headlights. We have a
call Wednesday. Many agree. He did say my delegates, I
will bring vote. Uh well, I bring will vote for
the most right wing person.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Great. I love Hitler. Joe. Did you look it up yet?

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Just did, Probably shouldn't have on my work computer. The
Spanish came to America and had sex with every single woman.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Sex is gay sex. It was rape. Epic.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Mmm, it's got my panel, not the Nostapha Santiago, a
lead former Senior Advisor for Environmental Justice with the EPA
out of DC.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Doctor Larry J.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Walker, Social professor, University of Central Florida out of Orlando,
Cameron Tremble, I'm getting lots of feedbacks.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
There's like some machine on or something. I don't know what.
I'm hearing a lot.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Cameron Trimble's CEO of Hip Politics Media and former White
House senior advisor, also out of DC. So a whole
lot of fun stuff coming from these right wing young
Republicans sound just like their Jim Crow grandfather's Cameron.

Speaker 8 (06:27):
Yes, we shouldn't be shocked, though.

Speaker 9 (06:30):
I think Trump has really in the right wing, and
GP has given so much space in place to both races, fascists, sexists,
and so much more. Like they took the governors off
and they're just willing to, like you said in one
of those messages, just go for true believers. I think
that was such a half hearted response and I wouldn't

(06:51):
even call it an apology from one of front of
one of their leaders. But I'm curious to how this
moves the needle or for just further is uh what
a lot of us already feel is that sentiment. I
think I'm glad that political and that there are still
some news outlets doing this type of digging uh and
being able to bring some of this more of this

(07:12):
to the to the light. But it just shouldn't come
as a shock. It's probably just more of a confirmation
of how a lot of us are already feeling about
how how they recruit and where they recruit, and and
their sentiments when we.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Talk about this comment, can we fix the show where
it's going to my iPad? Gas chambers don't fit the
Hitler static. That was Joe Maligno, who previously identified himself
as the general counsel for the New York State Young Republicans.
According to Political Right, they say right here, since Political
began making inquiries, one member of the group CHAT is
no longer employed at their job, and another job was rescinded.

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Prominent New York Republicans, including Representative Elast Dephonic and State
Senator senatem and Ority Leader Rob Ort, have denounced the chat.
Infestering resentments among Young Republicans have now turned into public recriminations,
including allegations of character assassination and extortion. And again they
found some twenty nine hundred pages and it was shared
among a dozen millennial and Gen Z Republicans chronicling their

(08:12):
campaign to seize control the National Young Republican organization on
a hardline pro Donald Trump platform. Many of the chat
members Larry already worked inside government or party politics, and
one serves.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
As eight state senator. This is what they say, Larry.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Together, the message is revealed a culture where racist, anti semitic,
and violent rhetoric circulate freely. And whether Trump era loutioning
of political norms has made such talk feel less taboo
among those positioning themselves as the next parties of the
party's next leaders.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, that's no shock.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
There, no, none of this is surprising, Roland. And I
want to think someone highlight we using the word young Republicans.
These are all working adults, as you highlight as some
of those who've lost their job. And I read the
political article you talked about the individual that had the
off or rescinded. The other point is, and I think
on colleague was made that point really well, this is

(09:06):
part of the ecosystem. This is not you know podcast,
whether you have a you know text thread. This is
the Republican ecosystem. We've seen over last several years that
they've developed and this racist, sexist rhetoric has continued to grow.
You know, Roland, when I worked on the Hill, this
kind of stuff was more fringe right people said it,

(09:28):
but it wasn't like we see it on some of
these major platforms, podcasts, and obviously this text thread. This
is another example of the kind of folks that have
grown and developed and lead to this festering disease that
we have in the United States for generations as relates
to racism. So none of this is surprising. Those folks
should be out, as we've seen from a political article

(09:50):
on some of the responses we've seen from New York
State officials, and publicly flogged because this is racist, and
the Republican Party has to deal with the fact that
they debated this, and then folks like us have to
deal with the repercussions.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Oh absolutely, And if you go on here, you know
this is what they say, musta for this is the
political piece. At least one person in the telegram chat
works in the Trump administration, Michael Bartles, who according to
his LinkedIn account, serves as a senior advisor in the
Office of General Counsel within the US Small Business Administration.
Barls did not have much to say in the chat,

(10:25):
but he didn't offer any pushback against the offensive rhetoric
in it either. He declined to comment. A notarized affidavit
signed by Bartles and obtained my Politico also sheds light
on the intra party rivalry that led the restore a
war room telegram chat to be made public. Bartos references
Wax as well.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
This is the person. He wrote that he did not.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Give a political the chat, and that Wax demanded in
a phone call he provided the full chat. Lag I
attempted to resist that demand at providing some of the
requested information.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Wax threatened my professional.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Standing and raised the possibility a potential legal action relaid
to an alleged breach of a disclosure agreement. My position
within the New York Young Republican Club was directly threatened.
And but the reality is when you look at this
chat here now, of course they apologize, and you know
this guy Walker, he apologized and all this sort of stuff,
and they said all kinds of it. They called folks

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faggot retarded, Nigga appeared more than two hundred and fifty
so faggot retarded and Nigga appeared more than two hundred
and fifty one times combined. And they talked about some
Indian woman saying, oh, she didn't bathe and look look
at this here. In a separate conversation, Giontas shared that
his flight to Charles, South Carolina landed safely. Then he

(11:39):
offered some advice for his fellow young Republicans.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Quote, if your.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Pilot is a she and she looks ten shapes darker
than someone from sicily just ended there screened the no
no word. Really, that's that's that's who That's who they are.
That's who they are. And these are the people.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Look at this here.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
This is the guy Bobby Walker, This is this guy.
Do you want to look at the young Republicans? These
are the people? Just so everybody said, these are the
faces of the future Republican leaders or tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
You know, nobody is born racist, right, you have to
be taught to be racist. There are a number of
psychological analyzes out there that actually walk us through that
these are the sins, right, These are the sins of
their grandfathers and great grandfathers and fathers and mothers that
have now infiltrated these young people. So they learned this behavior.

(12:33):
So if folks actually want any type of change to happen,
it's not about ignoring this, right, this is now being
ingrained into the next generation of their party, or at
least a part of the party, So they have to
take responsibility for this. But there is also responsibility when
you're a young person and you're growing up, you have
responsibility also for your actions. So if these are the

(12:56):
types of belief systems that you live by, if these
are the type of actions that you're willing to do,
then you also have to deal with the repercussions that
come from this type of behavior, betimes, this type of rhetoric,
and also the actions that come out of it. Because
we know that there are folks in this country who
are influenced by many folks who are in the political spectrum,

(13:19):
and that means that somebody goes out and beat somebody,
somebody goes out and rate somebody, if somebody goes out
and kills somebody, and you have played a role in
influencing that because you've dehumanized others, then you have a
responsibility for paying for the role that you played in
this moment.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, I mean, this is who these folks are. This
is another one of them. Name is William Hendrix. This
is who he is. Oh yeah, these are people who
think that they should be running the show.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
That's what you do.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Listen, So pull a photo of all of them, all
seven of them. These are the folks who may look
at them, Oh boy, yeah, this right here, that's your
future Republican Party.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
That's them right there.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's your future state senators and governors and state reps
and members of the House and members of the Senate.
These are the people going to be serving in the
Trump administration. And just just understand how how how these
folks roll. So you look at the language that they
use and keep in mind what you're what you're looking
at here, Cameron is also remember you had some avowed

(14:21):
races that was in Trump's first first administration who they fired,
but they welcomed them back into the fold. They now
have jobs as well. And the White House got upset
with political when they said, did Trump's rhetoric caused this?

Speaker 1 (14:33):
And let's just be real clear, Donald Trump can't escape this.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Donald Trump's full embrace of racism and the language that
he uses has led for Republicans to say, we're good, yo,
we can say and do whatever the hell we want
to because the big man he does it, so we
can do it as well. That's what's going on right now.
Period camera Cameron, how you hit the meat button?

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Bro?

Speaker 8 (15:05):
I didn't hit the mu much?

Speaker 1 (15:07):
My bad.

Speaker 8 (15:07):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 10 (15:08):
Can you hear me.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Anybody else that would you?

Speaker 11 (15:11):
No?

Speaker 1 (15:12):
So how'd you go on mute?

Speaker 10 (15:14):
That was an accident?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh but you hit the mew button. Don't don't. Don't
be noble? Two point oh come.

Speaker 8 (15:20):
On, thank you, Roland. Sorry about that. But in all seriousness,
the Internet does keep receipts.

Speaker 9 (15:29):
And I think what a lot of Republicans are making
a calculation, I think is a miscalculation, is that because
Donald Trump has opened up this new wave of acceptance
for just inexplicable behavior, for the bigotry, for homophobia. Like
I said, so much of the negativity around book just

(15:49):
culture along with political culture.

Speaker 8 (15:52):
He's not going to be in power forever. I mean,
as much as he would like to. I mean he is.
He is creeping up on eighty years old.

Speaker 9 (16:00):
He's only got a few leaders left in his term,
as long as we can make sure we vote him out.
But the rest of the Republican Party, by welcoming all
of this rhetoric and all of this, they're gonna have
to answer that for this in future elections, or they're
hoping they don't, but they will. And I think with
these young kids and these young working adults, as it
was stated earlier, have to be wary of Is that

(16:23):
just because all this is because they're in an environment
now where it's okay, That doesn't mean it's going to
be like that in the future. And I do hope
future leaders, future opposition, future candidates wherever they may find
Corey here like that, they hold them to account moving forward.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Listen, it's no longer taboo, Larry, the Republican Party.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
They ain't got no problem.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
You can be racist, you can say stuff they're like
cool promotion.

Speaker 6 (16:55):
Yeah, there's no standard and there's no bottom. And we're
just a couple months to administration. Unfortunately, Roan, we'll be
talking about this for the next couple of years in
terms of this will be the last story like this,
And I imagine that that those, you know, those stories
that we talk about in the future would be far worse.
But you're right in the past under you may be
someone like you know, Jody Bush Junior, et cetera. These

(17:15):
individuals would never have a you know, way a path
back into the Republican Party. But they'll take some time
off in a couple of months, they'll get rehired by
some consulting firm and you'll find it. They'll do a
pity tour and say they're sorry, and you know, they'll
blame it on woke culture and whatever else. We've seen
this playbook play out time and time again, But they

(17:37):
won't be far from being embraced by the same individuals
who you know openly wrote rolland when we see every
day federal officials who make it really clear how about
how they feel about black folks and other groups. So
you know, I don't feel sorry for the people, but
they'll they'll be back, and some of them will certainly
at some point be elected officials, which also once again

(17:57):
goes back to my point about there is no floor.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Mus stop it.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
You can't have a thriving twenty first century nation when
it is fueled by hate and bigotry, racism, all the
various isms that are out there. And we have a
number of other countries that are literally knocking on the
door trying to be the leader on the planet. So
these folks really need to understand that in this twenty
first century, we need to leave those sins in the past.

(18:27):
We don't need to bring them forward, especially young people.
The weight is too much and it will stop you
from ever truly having a country that leads up to
the values and the words that have been put out
there for folks as a guide post.

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Speaker 2 (20:55):
Okay, it's day fourteen, the gummy shut down, dead lock
and no signs of breaking. The Senate just returned this
evening for his eighth vote on a House pass funding bill.
Republicans need Democrats helped to meet the sixty vote threshold.
Democrats are holding firm marks. Any health insurance task credits
Democratic House leader how King Jeffrey Schlam Republican leadership for

(21:17):
keeping the House out of session, saying Democrats are ready
to talk, but there has to be a willingness among
Republicans to actually have a conversation.

Speaker 10 (21:26):
The legislative session.

Speaker 18 (21:28):
Day fourteen of the Trump Republicans shut down. House Democrats
and Senate Democrats remain committed to finding a bipartisan path
forward to reopen the government an act, a spending agreement
that actually meets the needs of the American people and
addresses the Republican health care crisis. The American people know

(21:53):
that Republicans have shut the government down because of their
unwillingness to provide healthcare to everyday Americans, working class Americans,
and middle class Americans. The Republicans have created a healthcare
crisis that is devastating people all across the country, working
class America, rural America, urban America, small town America, the

(22:17):
heartland of America, and black and brown communities all throughout America.
That Republican healthcare crisis includes, but is not limited to,
the largest cut to Medicaid in American history, Hospitals, nursing homes,
and community based health centers closing all throughout the country

(22:39):
because of what Republicans did in their one Big, Ugly bill.
The country faces a possible five hundred and thirty six
billion dollar cut to Medicare if Congress doesn't act by
the end of this year. The Republicans continue to refuse

(23:01):
to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits, which is
going to result in tens of millions of Americans experiencing
dramatically increased premiums, co pays, and deductibles all across the country,
including most significantly in states that Donald Trump won and

(23:27):
Republicans could care less. House Republicans cancel votes two weeks ago,
cancel votes last week, cancel votes this week. House Republicans
on vacation. House Democrats are on duty here in Washington, DC,
ready to reopen the government, ready to support our troops

(23:54):
and hardworking federal civil servants, and ready to address the
Republicans in healthcare crisis that is crushing people all across
the country in an environment where the cost of living
is already too high because of failed Republican policies like
the Trump tariffs. We're open to sitting down any time,

(24:17):
any place, with anyone. In terms of our Republican colleagues,
either here at the Capitol, Either here at the Capitol
or back in the Oval Office to have a conversation
about finding a bipartisan path forward. But there has to
be a willingness amongst Republicans to actually have a conversation.

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And since the White House meeting over two weeks ago,
Republicans have gone radio silent. Donald Trump has spent more
time on the golf course than talking to Democrats on
Capitol Hill. Republicans have been on vacation since September nineteenth.
In the House and in the the Senate, the Republican

(25:01):
strategy is to do the same exact thing, bring the
same failed partisan Republican spending bill to the floor over
and over and over again, knowing it's going to go
down because Democrats have been very clear we're not going
to support a partisan Republican spending bill that continues to
gut the health care.

Speaker 8 (25:20):
Of the American people.

Speaker 18 (25:22):
We are open about having a good faith discussion with
our Republican colleagues to hear their ideas about reopening the
government while at the same time decisively addressing the Republican
health care crisis.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
How folks sending the court.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Booker and lou join us in the next hour talk
about what happened in the Senate. They did take a
vote today. It was fifty forty four, so they rule
reconvene tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Let's come to you, Mustafa.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
I mean, listen, the Democrats are absolutely right where they are.
You stand firm on this, and you make it clear
you're not going to bend. The Republicans have been trying
to get the Democrats to bend to their will on
every issue, and this is where they say no, enough
is enough.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Yeah, exactly. I mean, we have a healthcare crisis and
the Republican Party is exacerbating that healthcare crisis. We've talked
about the millions and millions of people who are uninsured
and underinsured. I've personally picked up the phone and talked
to rural clinics and hospitals with the folks that I
know there and ask them how are things going. They're like,

(26:32):
we're barely hanging on because of the cuts that happened before.
So now you know, they're literally on life support. Not
only is democracy on life support across our country, but
there literally are people who are on life support because
they don't have the healthcare coverage they need. So why
would the Republican Party take a chance and making sure

(26:53):
that there were even less people in our country who
have that critically needed health care coverage. So folks are
doing the right thing and pushing this issue because it
is literally a matter of life and death.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
It is and and Larry, healthcare is a fundamental issue
in listening. When you got Marjorie Taylor Green, well, you've
got Marjorie Taylor Green Taylor Republicans, Uh, we gonna get
our asses kicked on this healthcare deal. She is sounding
more sane every day now, she's still is a bad,
bad built, butch body blonde. Well, I know what cons

(27:26):
wom Jasmine Crocket called it, but about light is they're
sounding alarmed because they know they're gonna be in trouble
on this one. And so Democrats, this is what you
don't back down, You go harder.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
Yeah, it's you know, it's really important. And be about
trying to the Democrats staying firm on this issue. Roller Listen,
in the beginning of next year, these subsidies are gonna
expire and a lot of millions of America's are gonna
lose the health insurance and we're going to it would
be a spiral. It was going to not only impact
in terms of the economy, but it's also an increase
mortality rate. So rolling you're right, it is important for

(27:59):
you know, Democrats staying strong on this issue because it's
a winnable issue. We see that from the polling, all
the polling. We've seen them the last you know, two
weeks or so, So they need to continue to fight
on this issue. I'm glad Senator is coming book Bump
Booker's coming on your show, because Democrats need to be
on every single platform, especially talking to some of these

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rule voters who voted the wrong way and those individuals
whose hospitals want to close, they won't have a health
and insurance and once again, immortality recent and rise.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Gamra.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Listen, Donald Trump for four years talked about all We're
going to replace the Ballacare. It's great, can be one oferful,
is going to be amazing. No plan ever existed. Republicans
still have offered nothing, and we know they are not
going to go for go for expansion of health care
because they truly are in the pockets of big business, uh,

(28:51):
in the pharmaceuticals, in the healthcare in it.

Speaker 9 (28:57):
Yes, I think the one thing that Democrats need to do.
And I'm seeing more and more of this online and
on social feeds, but they've got to make sure they're
they're hitting home.

Speaker 8 (29:05):
Is that as they do come to DC and.

Speaker 9 (29:08):
To show that they're here and ready to work, that
they're still finding opportunities in this time to go back
to their local uh back to their back to their districts,
and get on local radio. Make sure they're getting on
local TV. Make sure they're talking to local content creators,
because they can't trust that the narrative of how this

(29:29):
is shaping up day to day as more people uh
more people get hit hard. This is definitely hitting all
across America. My sister is a nurse for the military,
and she's like, hey, I'm going without a paycheck. I
have people in my family and close to me who
are who are now who are in the military other places,
and they're having to either go to work as essential
workers without paychecks. So this pain is going to continue

(29:51):
to have a ripple effect. But they can't just rely
on social media. They can't just rely on one person.
This is an opportunity for every member of Congress, every mayor,
every person across the Democratic establishment hell, even every Democratic
candidate to start hitting home and hitting hard and naming
individuals who are not voting for this, individuals who are

(30:12):
going to be directly responsible for their health care. This
isn't a time that they must be ultra aggressive, pedal
to the medal on making sure they define this narrative
and define this to American people and don't take for
granted that people are just going to blame the Republicans.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Absolutely, but again, to me, I really do believe that
this is the moment here mustava where Democrats can turn
a corner. They have been frankly flailing in the wind
for the last ten months trying to figure out how
to lay a glove on Republicans. This is the moment

(30:48):
where you take it now and you get uber aggressive.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Right now, you get uber aggressive, But you also make
sure that the American people know that you see them
and that you feel them, and that you're standing with them.
And how do you do that? You know, you make
sure that you talk about missus Ramirez whose daughter has
severe asthma and when she loses her insurance, how is
she going to help to keep her daughter alive? Or

(31:14):
you talk about mister Johnson who's actually going through dialysis
treatment and if he doesn't have the insurance, then his
life is going to be cut short. Or you talk
about mister O'Brien who's actually going through cancer treatment through chemo.
These are people that I actually know. So that's the
way that you actually put the right authentic spotlight on

(31:36):
this is that you bring forward the names and faces
of everyday people who are doing everything in their power
to make sure that they're taking care of their family,
taking care of their health. And that's what changes the dynamic.
Because if it's just a theoretical conversation about democracy or
about a party that's not doing something right, that's not enough.

(31:56):
You got to drive it home. People got to feel it.
They got to know that this could be happening to
me next week or next month if we don't address
these issues in the proper way.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
That's absolutely right, Larry, and as Bishop we and Barbara
always said, you got to put a face on it.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
That's what you have to do.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
And frankly, every House Democrat, every city Democrat, they should
be sharing stories and videos, photo collages of individuals in
their district.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
So here's what happens.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
We played the video yesterday comes with and Jasmine Crockett,
and I think she I forgot the number she used.
There was like seventy thousand people in my district and
lose healthcare.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
This is what you do.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Put their photos on there, you show it, you show
their families. You have to make this thing personal to
the public.

Speaker 19 (32:49):
Yeah. Absolutely, And listen, Roland.

Speaker 6 (32:51):
Let's talk about people like Speaker Johnson, who has people,
you know, Louisiana has faces and counter struggle, particularly in
his district. Those He's got thousands of people probably district
going to lose their healthcare, health insurance. And so you
can easily, like I said, you you know, highlight the
voices of people in your district, but also highlight the
voices of those who are opposed to the you know,
to making address this issue really relative to expiring of subsidies.

(33:13):
But this is really once again there are millions you
can you're rolling. This is really important to like we said,
highlight these personalized stories run ads to talk about you know,
like I said, the long term impact is going to
have on these very specific people, those who are in
the military, small business owners, those who individuals, those taking
care of people with disabilities, those who you know, who

(33:35):
are just average Americans trying to make it, who are
going to be negatively impacted.

Speaker 19 (33:39):
But Democrats have to stand strong.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
And it's obviously we know it's hurting a lot of
Americans in terms of the shutdown, those who are federal
governmt it.

Speaker 19 (33:47):
But this is a critical issue.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
So I got to go by the next guest. But
the other piece, Cameron, they should be nailing it when
it comes to young folks. Young folks should being impacted
gen Z millennials because that's going to drive voters. All right, folks,
Speaking of driving voters, there's a general election taking place
in Virginia, huge critical election. You've got statewide positions where

(34:11):
folks are running. You've got the good litorial race. You've
got Democrats and Republicans Batland. Who's going to control the House?
Of course, two years ago Democrats took control of the
House and that's how Don Scott, my alpha brother, became
the Speaker of the House, first time an African American
in Virginia history. They're looking to hold into the House.
Of course, in the Senate, Democrats keep control the Senate.

(34:33):
The most powerful person there's Louis San Luis Lucas who
controls the money. But now when it comes to the
Virginia Democratic the governor's race, you have two folks. You're
a Lieutenant Governor Winsome Earl Sears who is running on
the Republican side against Democrat Abigail Spanberger and joined us
right now is Abigail Spangerberger. Glad to have you here
on Roland Martin unfiltered. What immediately jumps out when we

(34:57):
talk about these issues that we are facing a massive
number of people in Virginia have lost their jobs because
of the federal government cuts. African Americans one in five
federal workers. That's having a tremendous impact on black communities.
More than three hundred thousand black women have lost jobs

(35:18):
in this economy since January. What specifically are you looking
to do to help government workers who have lost their
jobs because of MAGA in DOGE, but also just broadly
African Americans who are being the tax on anti DEI
that's put a lot of black women and black people
out of work.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Well, Roland, I want to begin by thanking you.

Speaker 20 (35:43):
I know you're headed to Virginia very very soon to
campaign with Speaker Scott and support so many of our
candidates who are running for the House of Delegates, incredible
candidates who are going to flip their seats. And the
issue that you were raising of the first round of
DOGE and now the impact that we are feeling of
DOGE essentially two point zero right now, is devastating to

(36:06):
Virginia's economy and to Virginians. And so before I get
to what am I going to do about it, the
first piece of it is that right now we have
a governor and a Lieutenant governor who are saying nothing.
Since January when the assault on the federal workforce began,
they have said nothing. They have justified it. They have
said everybody loses their jobs from time to time, and

(36:27):
they have not stood up for Virginians and for their livelihoods.
And the impact it has a significant ripple, a wave effect.
It is federal workers, it is government contractors, it is
small business owners, it's restaurant owners, it is people across
our communities who have seen the chaos created by this administration,

(36:50):
by DOGE, and now by these additional waves, these punitive
federal firings that the President is choosing to inflict upon
so many federal workers in the middle of this town.
And the impact is enormous and as you is disproportionately
impacting black women in particular. And so as governor, once

(37:13):
I am in the seat November fourth is our election,
swearing in comes in January, it will be a priority
for me to to support federal workers in their transition
into the private sector or state public sector.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
When when we say support, we stay support. What does
that mean?

Speaker 2 (37:32):
So, for instance, your counterpart in Maryland, Governor Wes Moore,
they've been really hit hard and he they've been really
proactive about placing federal workers in state jobs and others.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
And so what specifically are we talking about.

Speaker 20 (37:47):
Well, and so looking at what Governor Moore has done
is a tremendous and clear example of what actual leadership
looks like in the faith in the face of attacks
on your workforce. And so as governor, I will in
some cases, you know, copy and mirror the strong efforts
of what it is that that he is doing, ensuring

(38:07):
that through the Office of the Governor, that we are
prioritizing and making you know, both prioritizing the transition of
federal fired federal employees into state service where that might
be their choice, but also ensuring that we are you know,
supporting the transition of the workforce, and typically what that

(38:30):
what that means is when recruiting businesses to Virginia, when
working with large scale employers within Virginia, h ensuring that
the Virginia Office of Economic Development, ensuring that the Governor's
Office that a future Secretary of Commerce are are focused
on using. Among the many great benefits of bringing business

(38:52):
and investments to Virginia is the fact that we have
an incredible workforce that is mission driven, that is focused,
has a breath of experience that frankly has been cast
out of the workforce because of the Trump administration. And
as someone who once you know, many years back, left
federal service myself, I was a CIA officer, that transition

(39:13):
into the into the private sector can be a challenge,
everything from translating your resume into things that private sector
employers may understand, h to you know, restarting the experience
of going through a very different type of interview set.
And so in some of the ways we have in
addition to strong examples uh to our neighbors from our

(39:34):
neighbors in Maryland, we we have the mechanics of it
is we have strong programs for military veterans who are
transitioning out of the military, who face some of the
same challenges. And you know you also noted the attacks
on DEI. We've seen that in Virginia, particularly initially began

(39:56):
at Virginia Military Instudy.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Right go to my iPad, you will see the first
black superintendent VMI was forced out and he said it
was politics, not job performance. You've got Donald Trump who
was in this administration constantly attacking the president of George Mason,
Gregory Washington as well. And so if your governor, what
with your governor, what are you going to say to

(40:19):
Donald Trump and his administration. Well, they are constant attacks
on African Americans, but it also especially African American leaders
in education.

Speaker 20 (40:30):
And African American leaders in education, whether it's General wins
or President Washington, and even President Ryan at Uva, who
he's a white man, but he put in place important,
valuable and really strong DEI policies in place and was
forced out as a result. As governor, I'm going to

(40:52):
stand up for the academic freedom of our institutions. As governor,
I will make clear that reaching our whole history, particularly
in the Commonwealth of Virginia is essential for the ability
of all of our children and our citizens to understand,
you know, both the greatest triumphs and the greatest tragedies

(41:16):
that have occurred within Virginia, and understanding our strengths, our
greatest weaknesses, our greatest sins, and our greatest successes. And
we have a governor who, at the high school level,
has endeavored to erase any sort of you know, quote
unquote divisive history, which frankly is just history. And we
have a governor who has not stood up for incredible leadership.

(41:39):
You put the picture of General Winsor, here's a man
who attended Virginia Military Institute himself, went on to have
a thirty plus year career in the United States Army,
returned could of not necessarily seeing it was in his
usual path, returned to v m I to lead the

(42:01):
institute at a particularly challenging time, and every year received
performance related bonuses because he had brought up the numbers
of recruits, had increased class size, was doing incredible things.
And then when you look at at Gregory Washington, the President,
at George Mason, you know, and I the recognition of

(42:24):
how much he has expanded upon and grown. That institution
is clear because seeing the attacks coming for him, frankly
a large part in the absence of a governor willing
to do it.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
It was the business.

Speaker 20 (42:37):
Community who stood up and made clear that everything that
President Washington has done has been to the great success
and benefit of the larger kind of economy.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Here at Virginia Region.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
So here are African American leaders doing the job. They
keep talking about merit, but then they're trying to take
them out because they're black.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
I only got about five more minutes.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I got to ask you this here you have some
robust HBCUs to your point, We're going to be a
Virginia State university on Thursday on the campus there, I
did the commencement before. I've been in Norfolk State. I've
been to Virginia Union and others. And what plans do
you have specific plans for investment in these universities. When

(43:20):
I travel to a lot of the HBCUs, when I
look at facilities, look, look, University of Virginia looks a
hell of a lot different than Virginia State than Norfolk State.
When I leave, even in private HBCUs, and the reality is,
and we start talking about black doctors, and black engineers
and black lawyers. They're coming out of disproportionately HBCUs. Now

(43:41):
they're going on to prominently white institutions for graduate programs.
But for you know, what type of investment are we
talking about if you are a governor that these HBCUs
can expect to train the next generation of leaders.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Beginning.

Speaker 20 (44:00):
And I'll just pivot back to this very quickly and
then get to your question. During my time in Congress,
I was on the HBCU Caucus. I served on the
ad Committee, sat next to Congresswoman all The Adams, who
was the chair of that caucus, and we worked aggressively
to ensure that we were pushing additional funds, particularly to
the eighteen nineties institutions that for years upon years upon

(44:21):
years had been underfunded compared to the eighteen sixties institutions.
And now, given the experience and the breath of the work,
you're going to Virginia State. Virginia State is our Land
Grant University. They are incredible, the president there, the agriculturement,
everybody's fantastic. I hope you enjoy your time there. But

(44:45):
we have seen what happens after decades and decades and
decades of under investment, certainly not just in our land
grand institutions, but in our HBCUs more broadly, as governor,
I have already made a commitment to ensure and to
aggressively work. And you mentioned Luis Lucas, who is the
head of our Proporations Committee in the Senate and the

(45:08):
leader of the Proporations Committee in the House of Delegates.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
And then don't and don't forget, don't forget the biggest
supporter for HBCUs uh is a man from Virginia Congress
from Bobby Scott. He's responsible for yes, all my Adams,
but but but your former colleague Bobby Scott does a
lot of that credit for those billions going to HBCUs Virginia.

Speaker 20 (45:28):
Third districts Virginia's and certainly with Norfolk State and Hampton
in his district during his region.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
I'm trying to think, before and after redistricting.

Speaker 20 (45:41):
Has been an extraordinary advocate, and so I have spent
a tremendous amount of time in addition to my commitments
to ensure that we are really meeting the needs and
pushing more funding to HBCUs. You know, I was down
at Norfolk State in the last month or so talking
to some of their members, and you know, the amazing

(46:02):
thing is they continue to grow numbers because it's an
incredible school, and people across the country want to come
to Virginia because we have five HBCUs and they are incredible.
We've got two publics, three privates. They're big, they're smaller,
land grands, everything. But they are still putting students in
hotels because they do not have the physical infrastructure.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
And that's happened at hbcs around the country.

Speaker 20 (46:28):
And that's a real challenge. And so ensuring that like
we are seeing it both in the recognition of the
value that they bring to Virginia. You look at the
numbers of the members of our General Assembly, so many
of our members of the General Assembly leadership are themselves
graduates of HBCUs, either undergrad or later went back for

(46:50):
graduate school. And ensuring that we recognize the value of
HBCUs from an educational perspective. But you know, the argument
that you can that I will always make to the
broader commonwealth is their drivers of our economy.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
People come to Virginia because.

Speaker 20 (47:04):
Of our HBCUs and stay in Virginia and create businesses
and grow businesses and you know are our innovators and
the examples you know are just limitless of people who
have who have carried on that journey and and ensuring
that when someone arrives with a dream of going to

(47:25):
Hampton or a dream of going to Virginia Union, that
their experience from start to finish needs to be one
that that is one of success. Because frankfully, the presidents
are doing the work, the professors are doing the work.
And it's places where some of those state supports have
have fallen short in the past that make it so
someone might transfer out or they they might leave what

(47:47):
had otherwise been their their dream school. And that's to
the detriment of that student, to the detriment at the HBCUs,
but I would argue to the detriment of kind of
Virginia as a larger entity. Uh and ultimately down the
road and economy.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Last question for you, obviously, Democrats who want to sweep
all statewide seats you have you're running for governor, You've
got folks run the lieutenant governor. You've got Jay Jones
running for attorney general. African American had him on the
show as well. Is this still a unified ticket. Do
you still standing with him? With all of this, with
this text messaging controversy. I'm hearing from black voters out there.

(48:21):
They saw how Democrats stood behind Ralph Northam, They saw
what happened to justin Fairfax, and so do state or
Virginia Democrats. Are you still unified standing with Jay Jones?
Is a unified ticket running in November?

Speaker 20 (48:35):
Well, I would note and this one some time ago,
but at the time there were many of us who
had put calls on the governor then to step aside
as it.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Relates to the current circumstance with Jay Jones.

Speaker 20 (48:50):
You know, when the text messages first came out, I
had a conversation, a good conversation with Jay where I
spoke very frankly and he spoke very frankly, and to
his credit, you know, he spoke very clear, very clearly
about these text messages, about the fact that you know,
I think he said that they made him sick to
his stomach to go back and read. And for me,

(49:10):
I very publicly denounced them. I found them to be uh,
you know, abhorrent, and particularly at a time in this
moment where we've seen heightened violent rhetoric and certainly we
have seen politically motivated murders and throughout the summer more recently,
it's incredibly important that everyone be, you know, very clear

(49:33):
in our denunciation of any island rhetoric. And again he
has apologized, he has stated that so plainly. Notably, the
Republicans who just made this information available held onto it
for years and years and years, and so if they
had if they had wanted to make this known earlier,
I questioned their motives in waiting until October. And importantly,

(49:56):
as I mentioned at the debate with my opponent, you know,
the democratic side of the aisle, we will denounce violent rhetoric,
whether it is our friends or our political opponents who
are uttering it. And importantly on the other side of
opponent or whether it's Jay's opponent, they will only denounce
the violent rhetoric when it comes from Democrats. And you know,

(50:19):
even my opponent routines me her enemy. And it's the
type of rhetoric that I think, you know, not to mention,
of course, everything that the President says on a regular basis.
And so you know, Virginia voters know what's at stake.
We're all campaigning hard, and we're going to win, and
we're going to sweep our state wide seats. We're going

(50:39):
to flip all three of them. Uh, and then we're
going to work hard and do the things that we
promised to do. And I think there's an earnestness and
an importance when we hear someone who you know, recognizes
that they you know, made a mistake, or they said
something they shouldn't have said, or even you know, even
when taken out of context that you know, I think
j willingness to take accountability and be very clear eyed

(51:02):
about it.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
It speaks to his character.

Speaker 20 (51:05):
And I think that as Virginians are going about making,
you know, their decisions about who to vote for, they'll
take that into account and they'll look at who has
stood up for them and who has not. And the
role of Attorney General is a decisive and important one.
And so moving towards this November, I do believe we're
going to flip all three seats. And I believe that

(51:27):
Jay is doing the work of endeavoring to rebuild trust
and to earn the trust of voters. And certainly, you know,
as we head towards November, you know, I want to
keep talking about my race. I know he wants to
keep talking about his race and Gazala the same, and
we want to ensure that we flip a number of
the seats in the House of Delegates as well in

(51:48):
the process.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
You So I appreciate that last point earlier mentioned the HBCUs.
Let's not forget when the Biden administration came out with
the report, they said that was sixteen states where hbcs
were underfunded between nineteen eighty seven and two thousand. Virginia
State is owed two hundred and seventy seven point five
million dollars. The Virginia General Assembly needs to properly give

(52:14):
them that money. That's money that they were cheated out
of that went to other universities. So as opposed to
any new money, that money should be repaid. So I
would hope you will commit to that as governor for
them to get it. And so the other states on
here are Tennessee, North Carolina, Florida. I've been to a
lot of them. Tennessee is two point one billion. But
this is a perfect example for one of the reasons

(52:34):
the HBC's had been underfunded because they were cheat it
out of land grant money that was supposed to go
to them that went to predominant white institutions. So if
you win, I hope that becomes a priority to put
it in the budget for them to fund Virginia State
and give them that money.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
That is a priority.

Speaker 20 (52:52):
And if I as you're going to Virginia State, I
would say one more thing, just as an incredible example,
I think for the rest of the country, Virginia State
and virgin Tech in recent years have begun working together
in a partnership that is extraordinary, that benefits Virginia Tech,
that benefits Virginia State, and most importantly benefits agriculture research

(53:13):
across the Commonwealth of Virginia. And it is a model
for the rest of the country that is in no
ways to kind of look past the historical funding challenges
that Virginia State has faced and the realities of what
that means today. But I do think that Virginia State
is an extraordinary example of what partnership between universities, between

(53:33):
land grant universities can be, and hopefully into the future
we'll see other states following that incredible example.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
We didn't cover tonight, but I'm definitely going to get
to black owned businesses on Thursday and that's also a
huge priority of mine as well, in those those state contracts.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
That's critically important, I would.

Speaker 20 (53:52):
Agree, particularly a lot of the attacks coming out of
the administration in Washington.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
All Right, abig s Bamberg, I appreciate you joining us
on the show. Look forward to having you back.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Thank you so much. Enjoy your time in Virginia again,
Thank you, Royland.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
All right, thanks a lot.

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Speaker 1 (56:51):
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Speaker 2 (56:53):
I'm gonna start with you, Larry the question there again,
you got this race going on in Virginia. You heard
Abigail Spainberger there and bottom line, as you know how
we do, we don't as black specific stuff.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
That's always important.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
But this is the example where again, when it comes
to the interest of black voters, our job is the
challenge of folks and to step up because what we
are seeing is we are seeing a massive attack by
MAGA on black political leadership and they want to take
folks out all across the country. And we've got to
have white politicians, white female politicians standing up and speaking

(57:31):
specifically to the interests of African Americans. And not speaking
in general terms, especially when they want our vote.

Speaker 6 (57:38):
Absolutely, you got to hold these folks accountable, and you
did that.

Speaker 19 (57:41):
In an interview.

Speaker 6 (57:41):
You talked about what happened with VMI, but also you
mentioned Virginia. Obviously like Maryland. You know, I'm living in
DC for years, d NV for years. There are a
lot of black folks who have lost jobs via what's
happening in the federal government before you know what's happening
we see with the shutdown. Before that, we talked about
the one hundreds of thousands of black women their lost
jobs nationally. So I'm glad you pushed her on that role.

(58:03):
And the other thing is you talked about the importance
of HBCUs. Obviously there's several in the state of Virginia.

Speaker 19 (58:10):
But she's right.

Speaker 6 (58:11):
We saw from you know, the Biden administration of Study
a couple of years ago, but also in not Negro
College Fund has put out several studies in terms of
the economic impact that HBCUs have on each state, particularly Virginia.
So they drive the economy. So it's critically important that
we closed the gap. She mentioned Virginia Tech and v
vs U. We got to make sure they closed that
that you know, that funding gap that has existed for

(58:34):
decades to make sure these institutions continue to thrive, you know,
educate black students and the agriculture and various other you know,
stam in other fields and give black students the opportunity
to feel important jobs in the United States.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
When we talk to Cameron about the future, again here
we talk about politics. Listen, big business is directly tied
to politics. So on the federal level, on the state level,
the county level, the city level, well, it does not matter.
And again we look at how we advance our interest.

(59:07):
It's going to be important to ask these questions and
I appreciate Abigail Spanburger answering them. But then when the
election is over, it's important for African Americans to press
that we talk about that two hundred and seventy seven
pointy five million dollars.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
That needs to be a priority.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Black Virginians should be saying to leaders in Virginia. And
here's the deal she wins is what's gonna happen. Similaruise
Lucas is going to control the money in the Senate.
You've got Speaker Don Scott in the House. You're going
to have a Democrat, Abigail Spamburger in the governor's mansion trifecta,
and to me, that should be the case. They should

(59:46):
be putting that money in the budget. Again, that's two
hundred and seventy seven pointy five million dollars. That's not
new money. That's all money Virginia State should be getting.
And then there should be a robust, a robust of
propos uh, just to to upgrade the state's HBCUs private
excuse to be public, but also this work that can

(01:00:07):
be done private as well.

Speaker 9 (01:00:11):
Yes, Roland, I know I'm repping Howard today, but I
want to give a major shout out to Hampton University
because this issue is personal to me. My my younger
sister is a Hampton graduate and has been living in
the Hampton, Hampton Roads, Hampton, Virginia area. Her and her husband,
who's who's born in his entire family is from that region.
I'm glad you pressed that and quoted that number because

(01:00:34):
this is an opportunity and this is a if the
Democrats are able to win that trifecta, this is a
masterclass and an opportunity for us to show how we
not only get people in office but hold them accountable
to this. And Democrats wonder why there has been such
tep of response to some of their some of the
party messaging over time, is because when it seems like

(01:00:56):
you have all the all the boxes checked and you're
able to push through things that core constituencies want, that
it needs to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:01:04):
But I also would have loved to her to talk
more about and want to continue to how she invests
in some of these rural areas away from the DC area,
away from northern Virginia. But like I said, having had
family and now have an extended family all throughout more
rural parts of the of the state, understanding how many
great people are down there looking for work and looking

(01:01:27):
for industry, and that big business to continue to have
investments in those communities, I'm interested in making sure she
continues to push for that and put and push for
diversity of investment, both for our HBCUs and for some
of those rural communities because there's a lot of black
folks out there too.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
We didn't get into this, Mustafa, but there's something that
black folks in Virginia need to be aware of, and
that is this here Virginia has a very unique law
when it comes to the restoration of voting rights foreop
who were formerly incarcerated, and it's a racist pass literally

(01:02:05):
racist white lawmakers said in early nineteen hundred they were
doing this to keep the Niggers from voting.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
It's documented.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
When Terry mcculliffe was governor, he tried to do an
end mass restoration. But the law says there must be
individual you have to do it individually. So they were
just signed left.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
And right now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
The way the law works in Virginia, the legislature has
to they passed them. They passed it in twenty twenty five,
they have to pass it a second time in a
successive year. The plans to do it in twenty twenty six.
Spanberger wins, she signs it into law, then it goes

(01:02:50):
on the ballot in Virginia in November in twenty twenty six.
That would then allow for people to have their votes
restored once they finish serving their time. That is a
huge deal and people need to understand that's also the
difference between a span Burger being governor and a Winsome
Earl's Seers, Seals, earro, whatever their name is, being governored.

(01:03:13):
As to who would support the restoration automatically of people
who've already been incarcerated.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
That's a big deal.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
It's a big deal, and it also has to be
on their platform, so they have to bring it forward.
They have to make sure that people understand why it's
so incredibly important and how it also leads to all
these other issues that are so critical inside of our
communities because we can make sure that we have more
folks who are voting right. They're making of course, they're
voting for whomever they feel is the best candidate for them,

(01:03:43):
but then that also helps us to deal with the
infant mortality rate, which is two and a half times
higher in Virginia than it is for white infants in Virginia.
It also deals with education, not just that we'll talk
about college just a second ago, but it also gives
us an opportunity to make sure that we are doing
what's necessary both on for public schools and charter schools,
and make sure kids are in ap courses and all

(01:04:05):
these other types of things, which helps you to not
end up losing your rights because you are incarcerated. To
begin with, I can go down the list of why
this is incredibly important and how it is tied to
many of the other issues that are inside of our community.
But you have to bring it forward. You have to
make sure that folks understand that we can make sure
that you are able to reclaim your power and then

(01:04:26):
you can utilize your power in the way that you
see fit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
So just so folks know, this is a story right here,
Virginia is the only state that permanently disenfranchises voters with
a feel any conviction. This constitutional amendment would again change that.
The current constitution grants the government discretion over whose rights
to restore. But again, this has been in place since

(01:04:52):
nineteen o two and it was specifically designed to keep
black people from voting, and a Republican govern Glenn Younkin
has been extremely slow at restoring the voting rights of
people with a Philippey conviction. And this would change. And
so when you go to the polls in Virginia, understand
where does Spanburger stand, Where does win some early seers stand.

(01:05:15):
That's going to be critically important to understand. And so
I think that's one of the issues that people need
to understand. Why we have to vote while we must
maximize our power, because that is an absolute game changer.
Let's talk about voting early voting McGain today in Georgia
municipal and special elections, including a close watch mayoral race
in Marietta. Folks, there's a fifty four year age gap

(01:05:37):
between the two candidates. You have seventy eight year old
incumbent Steve thunder Tumblin and twenty four year old challenger
Sam Foster. Tumblin, a lifelong Mariata resident, touting is record
in education and fiscal management. Foster, an IT engineer and
nonprofit founder, says it is time for new leadership and
he's focused on affordable housing, say for streets, in better

(01:05:57):
public transit. The gen Z challenger is actually outraise a
long time mayor. Sam Foster joins us now from Marietta.
Glad to have you on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Sam. What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
What was this specifically that caused you to say, you
know what, it's time I need to do this. I
need to run to be mayor of my city.

Speaker 21 (01:06:18):
I see a lot of the decisions that the mayor
Marietta is making, and I started to notice that they
don't represent the working class people who live in Marietta.
I believe that we need to have leadership that is
responsive to the people who actually live in the city,
and it is time for us to have the right
leadership in Marietta.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Okay, So when you say, okay, it's time, what have
you and not represent the working class people? Who would
you say that the current mayor has been focused on
Give me examples and how would you represent the working
class folks in Marietta.

Speaker 21 (01:06:54):
So I would say that the mayor primarily is focused
on what I would call appearances. Thirteen, he spearheaded a
project to buy up low income multi family housing on
a road known as Franklin Gateway with a sixty eight
million dollar bond, and we destroyed all of that housing
and drove out the low income residence out of the city.
He says that it is his proudest project to date.

(01:07:15):
He also says that if you make the city to affordable,
you make it unlivable.

Speaker 22 (01:07:19):
So he has this pattern.

Speaker 21 (01:07:20):
Of advocating for appearances tourism in our downtown area while
also wanting to drive out low income residents out of
our city.

Speaker 22 (01:07:29):
And he defines that as success.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
You say affordable housing, what is the state of housing
and Marietta right now?

Speaker 21 (01:07:37):
So the median housing price in Marietta is around five
hundred thousand dollars, and rent has nearly doubled in the
past ten years in Marietta as well. So housing, both
renter and owner occupied has become mostly unaffordable for regular
people in Marietta. And we see that not only in Marietta,
across the entire metro Redland region and across the entire country.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
And so how you make that change as mayor? What specifically?

Speaker 21 (01:08:03):
So there are a lot of little There are a
lot of laws that we have on the municipal level
that make it harder for us to build housing. When
we look at when a developer wants to come into
the city and build housing, they have to go through
all of these different steps in order to get to
the point where they actually build that housing. We had
somebody come into the city who was wanting to build
an apartment building downtown and the mayor compared that developer

(01:08:26):
to William Sherman, saying that William Sherman didn't damage the
square as much as the developer was trying to. So
trying to streamline some of those processes is going to
make it easier to build housing. And I also want
to provide incentives for developers to make a certain amount
of units affordable when they build new units.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
You say a public transportation is a huge issue. You say,
better at public transportation?

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Got it? How would you make it better?

Speaker 21 (01:08:52):
So right now, the reason most people do not take
public transit is because it's not practical. It's not feasible
when you think of how you plan your day. Nobody
wants to look at their watch and plan their day
out in thirty minute increments to determine when's the next
time I can take the bus. So the main thing
I want to do is to improve the service of
the bus, making sure that buses on the our most

(01:09:13):
used routes are running at least ten to fifteen minutes,
making sure there's shelters at our bus stops, and making
sure the buses actually go where people want to be.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Wow, all right, that's got my panel questions. Let's each
camera you.

Speaker 9 (01:09:28):
First, so good to see you and good luck on
this race. One question I have, as we've seen more
and more gen Z candidates and folks really taking the
power into their own hands, what has been something that's
been inspiring? Again, being so young, real relatively young in

(01:09:50):
this race, what's one thing or inspirational story is something
that you've seen along this race and along this journey
to be mayor of Marietta.

Speaker 21 (01:10:00):
I think what really inspires me to keep going, or
what I've been inspiring is the conversations that I've had
with residents as I've been getting out and knocking doors
and talking to different people. There was this one story
that really sticks with me where this younger person I
was talking to them and they said, Oh, I make
about eighty five thousand dollars at my current job, but
I'm working another job because I'm paying off medical debt.

(01:10:22):
And I look at people who are in different parts
of the neighborhood and I'm talking to them and like, oh, yeah,
I used to live on Franklin Gateway, but I got
displaced and now they live in a worse side of town.
And those are the stories that keep me going. People
who are not advocated, for people who don't have a voice,
the stories we're not telling because the mayor would like

(01:10:43):
to have you think that everything's okay. He thinks his
record is flawless and that he has brought the city
into this great state. But we can always do better,
and there are people who are still suffering. So that
really is what inspires me to keep going and advocating
for everyone in Marietta.

Speaker 6 (01:11:01):
Larry, Yeah, thanks for Kimona show. One of the challenges
with these races, and we talk about in this show, particularly,
you know when We're Ama show a lot is demographics
and younger voters, and so you kind of mentioned touched on,
you know, Kevin conversations, what are you doing for your
regarding your campaign into energizing your young voters who could

(01:11:22):
make a difference in this election.

Speaker 22 (01:11:25):
So we're really getting out there and knocking doors.

Speaker 21 (01:11:28):
That is the primary way we're going to be reaching voters,
but we're also we also have a very large social
media presence, which was not something I intended to happen,
but it ended up happening, and that has reached a
lot of younger people. I've had a high school student,
a senior saying You're going to be the first person
I'm voting for in their eighteen So really getting out

(01:11:49):
there and directly reaching voters through texting, door knocking, all
of the different methods throughout direct voter contact, that's what
we're going for, and whether you're young or old, that's
really how we're going to reach people.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
And guys, all right, we had a technical issue, so
let's do this here. We're going to fix this real
quick so he can finish answering Layer's question and then
we stop us question. So let me go to a break.
We'll be right back on rolland Martin unfilch on the
Blackstone Network.

Speaker 23 (01:12:25):
Next on the Black Table with me Craig Calker. Now,
the America we live in today is not what the
founders intended or what they outlined in the Declaration of
Independence and even the Constitution. Professor and author Kermit Roosevelt
will join us to talk about his book The Nation
That Never Was, How history was misinterpreted the intended realities

(01:12:46):
of America's beginnings and missed a much better story in
the process.

Speaker 6 (01:12:50):
So, if you have to pick some group to marginalize,
I think it should be the people who are against equality.

Speaker 23 (01:12:54):
That's next on the Black Table, right here on the
Black Star Network.

Speaker 11 (01:13:00):
If in this country right now, you have people get
up in the morning and the only thing they can
think about is how many people they can hurt, and
they've got the power, that's the time.

Speaker 8 (01:13:11):
For morning, for better or worse.

Speaker 14 (01:13:13):
What makes America special it's that legal system that's supposed
to protect.

Speaker 24 (01:13:17):
Minorities from the tyranny of the majority.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
We are at a point of a moral emergency.

Speaker 25 (01:13:25):
We must raise a voice of outrag, We must raise
a voice of compassion, and we must raise a voice
of unity.

Speaker 11 (01:13:36):
We are not in a crisis of party versus party.
We are in a crisis of civilization, a humans rights crisis,
and a crisis of democracy itself. And guess what. You've
been chosen to make sure that those that would destroy,
those that would hate, don't have the final say and

(01:13:57):
they don't ultimately win.

Speaker 25 (01:14:00):
Hey, I'm Mark Morile, president's CEO of the National Urban League,
and I'm watching Roland Martin unfiltered.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
All right, Sam Foster, we have been back, go ahead
and finished answering the question, and then we will have
the antend final question.

Speaker 26 (01:14:21):
Yeah, I forgot the question, Larry rethink your question.

Speaker 6 (01:14:26):
Yeah, Well, what are you doing to energize young people
to come out of the vote.

Speaker 22 (01:14:31):
Direct voter contact is the best way to reach people
young or old.

Speaker 21 (01:14:34):
And we're out there texting people, calling them, knocking on
their doors, and we have a large social media presence,
which was not my intention, but it ended up happening anyway,
which has energized.

Speaker 22 (01:14:43):
A lot of younger voters because a lot of them
are on social media.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
We'll stop them.

Speaker 4 (01:14:51):
Well, brother Foster, congratulations on running, appreciation saying young people,
you're taking the mantle up. Quick question, I have family
in Marietta. Do you have innovative or other ways that
you are going to address the unhoused population who are
there in the city.

Speaker 21 (01:15:09):
So when we look at homelessness, there are two main
causes of somebody not having a home. The biggest one
is that they are not able to afford housing. So
we need more initiatives to bring more affordable housing into
the city. I was reading this article in the AJAC
about a mother who was discharged from the military and
wasn't able to afford a home, but she applied for

(01:15:30):
a voucher, but it took months for her to be
able to actually access that voucher, so she was sleeping
out of her car. And I look at scenarios like
that and I understand that we need more affordable housing.
That's number one, and number two we need to provide
more services or work with people who can provide those services.
We don't have adequate services right now to deal with
people who are struggling with drug addiction, people who are struggling.

Speaker 22 (01:15:51):
With mental health issues.

Speaker 21 (01:15:53):
So what we see a lot is we are keeping
people right where they are, but we're not able to
lift them out of the situation that they're at.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
All.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Right, then, well, Sam, certainly good luck in this race,
and we'll be watching to see what happens on election day.

Speaker 22 (01:16:08):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
All Right, thanks a bunch, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Let's stay on politics and North Carolina Republicans are announced
they are going to start jerrymandering races even further a
body by Donald Trump excuse me, Donald Trump, of course,
has been one of Republicans to steal more seats because
they are afraid they're going to lose the House next year. Now,
Republicans have already jerrymanner of the state. They're doing it again.

(01:16:33):
They're allowed to do so because Republicans control the state
Supreme Court. And so don't be surprised if they go
after the seat of Congressman Don Davis, which is already
a plus two Republican seat, they're gonna make it a
lot veteran so that we're going to see that actually happen.
So we'll be following what happens. They're in North Carolina,

(01:16:53):
so lots of stuff going on, and so folks who
got critical critical race is happening all across the country,
and so I just want us to be paying attention
to recognize that these things absolutely matter. All right, quick break,
we come back. We're gonna talk about the passing of D'Angelo. Also,
house an organization celebrating Bill Russell, but they ignore Bill

(01:17:15):
Russell's family.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
That's kind of dumb to me. We'll talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Plus, we have Senor Cory Booker as well as our
marketplace segment Real quick break break right back, rolling unfilter
the Blackshet Network.

Speaker 27 (01:18:15):
I am Swing Cash Basketball Hall of Famer and you're
watching Roland Martin.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
I'm filtered. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
I'm always confused when groups decide to honor somebody, but
they don't include the family of the honoree when they've
passed on. So, for instance, check this out. So there's
a group called Mentor National. They're celebrating thirty five years

(01:18:48):
and tonight they're having a gala in New York City,
and so this is the press release that they set out.
Mentor celebrates thirty five years of Relationships Powering Opportunities at
New York City gala honoring Bill Russell, Ray.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Lewis, and David Shapiro. So you go through here and
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Of course Bill Russell Hall of Famer as a player
and a coach. It says that his widow, Janine Russell,
will accept the award on his behalf. Okay, I got it.
Ray Lewis is an NFL Hall of Famer. You got
David Shapiro CEO the YMC of Greater Boss. Okay, but
this is where I saw this tweet, and it is
confusing to me. So it says mentor Leans expands and

(01:19:29):
strengthens the mentoring movement, building capacity to make high quality
relationships accessible to all young people.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Thirty five years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Mentor was created to expand opportunities for young people by
building a youth mentoring field and movement. Okay, I got it,
all right, So you're helping with young people. But then
I saw this tweet and I'm kind of like, this
doesn't make any sense whatsoever. And so this is one
of Bill Russell's children, Karen Russell. Look at this here

(01:20:02):
and again it makes no sense to me, and I
don't understand how you can be a youth organization and
you are you are, you know, honoring Bill Russell, but
you don't actually include the children of Bill Russell.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
And if you and you are, this is just crazy
to me.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
So look at this, Can Russell tweeted in HBCU, Celtic City.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
They used a red r back clip.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
When Red was asked why my father finally reconciled with Boston,
read said.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
It was the power of his daughter. That daughter was me.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
In nineteen ninety nine, I partnered with my dad to
retire his number republicly. I produced the Bill Russell Tribute
to benefit Mentor National, the first of many Team Russell
joint projects. Just to be clear, I worked hard behind
the scenes to make many of his greatest off the
court honors possible, including but not limited to, his public

(01:21:09):
jersey retirement, his honorary degrees, the Medal of Freedom, the
Bill Russell's Statute, and what he called his greatest gift
of private meeting, his private meeting his hero Nelson Mandela
picture here with his late wife Marilyn Russell. It took
me years to arrange. Daddy earned every one of them.
But to be clear, none of these post career milestones
would have happened without me. It was our family partnership,

(01:21:31):
it says, and then she writes, for decades, I volunteered mentor.
My father and I helped turn mentoring into a national movement.
Together we created moments that brought people together and raised
millions for young people. And so she goes on and
she lays all these things out, all the great things

(01:21:52):
that he did, the work that was involved, and then
she says, one of the best parts of the Bill
Russell statue are the quotes like my favorite there. I
know other people's children except maybe us. I learned that
Mentor National is honoring our dad and grandfather tonight and
didn't include us. Stop erasing Black history. Now I know Bill,

(01:22:14):
Bill White's Bill, Bill Russell's widow, Janye, I've talked to
Rod met her. But the reality is the Bill Russell
legacy should be shared with all of his family members.
Bill Russell has been honored. I was an NBA All
Star game where they renamed I think the school after
moment the gym I I couldn't attend it. They recently

(01:22:35):
had a bridge being named after him as well. And
then you know, you have all of these different different things, uh,
that have happened.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
And I get all of that, but this is all
I'm saying. Bill Russell has children. Bill Russell has children
that are still here. And if my parents, if my parents, okay,
we're being honored. And even if parents of someone's parents

(01:23:10):
had passed away or gotten divorced and they got remarried
or whatever, you're gonna honor someone, you still include the children.
You just don't invite the widow. That's just me and
I would if I'm Karen Russell and I saw this tweet,
If I'm Karen Russell, I would really be pissed off

(01:23:30):
for an organization that I helped for a very long time,
would be honoring my dad.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
And damn, you didn't even call me, she says. Right now,
here's what's so crazy. Due to math.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
She says in here that she put this Bill Russell
tribute together in nineteen ninety nine to benefit this group.
They're celebrating thirty five years. So this Bill Russell tribute
happened to six years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
They were six.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
So if I'm Karen Russell, yeah, I'm probably gonna be real.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Pissed off for the organization that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
I put help put on the map with my dad
and then you honor my dad and you don't even
invite me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
That is insulting.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
So I don't know anything between the relationship between Janine
Russell and Karen and her brother. I don't know, but
this is what I will say.

Speaker 10 (01:24:33):
This.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
If you are an organization, if you're the NBA, if
you are dedicating a bridge in Boston, if you are
something dealing with Bill Russell's school, if you do, if
you're any group out there in America and you are
trying to celebrate Bill Russell, you might want to include

(01:24:53):
the Bill Russell family and the Bill Russell family.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
It's not just it's widow.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
The Bill Russell family is Bill Russell's widow, Bill Russell's children,
Bill Russell's grandchildren. And if I was a child of
Bill Russell, I would be insulted. If my dad is
constantly being honored and people act like I don't exist,

(01:25:29):
that to me is wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
It is wrong. It is wrong. It is wrong, and
somebody needs to say it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
I'll be right back rolling Ard Unfiltered on the Black
Stun Network.

Speaker 23 (01:25:49):
Next on the Black Table with Me Craig car Now,
the America we live in today, is not what the
founders intended or what they outlined in the Declaration of Independence.
And even the constant professor and author Kermit Roosevelt will
join us to talk about his book The Nation That
Never Was, How history was misinterpreted the intended realities of

(01:26:10):
America's beginnings and missed a much better story in the process.

Speaker 6 (01:26:13):
So, if you have to pick some group to marginalize,
I think it should be the people who are against equality.

Speaker 23 (01:26:18):
That's next on the black table right here on the
Black Star Network.

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chips or the snacks dame right for me.

Speaker 27 (01:27:33):
What happened, Well, it basically started my grandkids, my grandchildren,
are you know inspiration.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
From you got grandkids? Yes? Ms, I have two, You
got two red kids. I would never thought that girl
gone keep going, keep going.

Speaker 27 (01:27:52):
So basically with you know, their snacks and all those things,
I wanted them to be able to have something that
you know, was feeling as well as good for them
as well. And then I wanted to be able to
do something like I did with my grandmother, you know
when she was alive, something that we could share and
have some good memories about.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Okay, so what you were just sitting in the crib,
It was like, you know what, I want my.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
Own damn ships. Okay, Like how did we get there?

Speaker 27 (01:28:21):
Well, it started with a conversation with my husband, and
we wanted to provide, you know, something to you know,
just everyday people.

Speaker 24 (01:28:32):
You didn't have to.

Speaker 27 (01:28:33):
You know, have a whole lot of money, but you
wanted something that was good for you and delicious at
the same time. So did a little research and learned
that hey, there aren't you know, any black owned potato
chip companies, especially for women.

Speaker 19 (01:28:49):
Owned.

Speaker 24 (01:28:49):
Basically, it's just the you know, the big conglomerate. So
what have you?

Speaker 27 (01:28:52):
So I decided that I wanted to, you know, provide
something great for a lot of people, and not only
only just you know, for the kids or what have you,
but you can join in with your friends and make
great memories together.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
All right. So we got honey, jalapeno.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
Deal, pickle lord, don't let my wife see those, and
rosemary flavored.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
Okay, So how did you settle on these three?

Speaker 10 (01:29:25):
Okay?

Speaker 27 (01:29:25):
So I like spicy foods. My son here spicy. Okay,
So I wanted to do spicy, but nothing that was
going to like burn your taste buds, you know off,
but also have that sweetness to it. So that's how
Honey HALLOWEENO came about?

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Gotcha?

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
Now, now I see right there they're forced. Which one
am I missing?

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Hello, I see it over here with you be So
I see the purple one. No, I got rosemarried the
blue one?

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
So the blue one, yeah, McKenzie, and your left out
a bag of chip.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
These love these o, these little people, these little people. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
So we got sea salt flavored, got sea salt flavored,
So we got we got four right here.

Speaker 28 (01:30:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
And so you say so you said they're American? Mate?

Speaker 24 (01:30:14):
Oh yes, yes, right here in good old USA.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
Okay, questions from the panel. Let's see here to see
who's probably a chips fiend on the panel, Probably Cameron.

Speaker 9 (01:30:29):
I can't lie, I do. I do love a good
bag of chips. I had some right before the show,
Very proud of this. I love to support black owned
businesses and I can't waste to taste the chips. I
guess my question here marketing. I'm in marketing, I work
in work in a marketing company.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:30:47):
And I think the story just hearing the story as
we heard about it from the show and you, I
think is so compelling and could translate to so many
different people, especially about your grandmother and that that that
dynamic there. How are you going about selling the story
of the chips and selling the story of uh? Like
I said, all the vegan and all the different the
attributes of the chips in addition to them just tasting good.

(01:31:10):
How are you going about your marketing effort to really
find your find your customers?

Speaker 24 (01:31:17):
So definitely socials.

Speaker 27 (01:31:18):
I mean, you know you can't do anything well, I
feel like you can't have a successful business without tapping
into social media. So we're definitely we have a social
media presence. We're doing some online marketing as well. We also,
you know, have a lot of people giving reviews and
so forth. We are in the Atlanta Airport, so we're

(01:31:42):
getting foot traffic that way as well, and you know,
just getting trying to do every you know, utilizing every
avenue possible to get to get the word out.

Speaker 6 (01:31:54):
Cool cool, Larry, Yeah, I'm a big person also, So
question I have is in terms of what kind of
growth a you're expecting over the next few years.

Speaker 27 (01:32:06):
Well, the growth expected is to be in at least
two big box you know, retail markets or what have you,
as well as some of you know, your convenience stores
and so forth. So right now we're like I said,
we're in the Atlanta Airport. We we sell through our
online store and things of that nature. We have partnered

(01:32:29):
with a few wineries, a couple of coffee shops, so
we're you know, looking to definitely expand that footprint.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
We stoppa.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
Yeah, well, congratulations love so far on all the success.
You know in our community. We have to deal with
high blood pressure and the number of other things. So
I noticed in some of the material I read that
you talk about clean ingredients, you talk about note junk.
I really appreciated that language. Could you unpack that for
the viewers?

Speaker 24 (01:33:00):
Okay, so a lot of times.

Speaker 27 (01:33:01):
The first the first thing you will notice when when
I say junk, if you read the label, you'll see
a lot of words that you really, you know, can't pronounce,
and those types of things. For me, that's the first
sign that, hey, there's a lot of fillers or preservatives
and so forth. But with my chips, pretty much everything
you've heard of. The only thing that we add in

(01:33:25):
it is what is it? It's I can't think of the
name of it right now, but it's to prevent the
spices from clumping.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
Anything I say on the deal pickle says malti dexterri
in sea salt flakes, garlet, powdered vintage sugar, onion, mustra
seed oil, uh mustra seed, deal citric acid, silicon dioxide
oil of deal weed.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
That's the underdal pickle. Go ahead.

Speaker 27 (01:33:53):
So, like I said, we want to use all natural
ingredients and everything so that way you're not feeling guilty. Yeah,
when you're you know, if you go through an entire bag,
because hey, you know, these are some of the same
spices that you have in your cabinet already, so you know,
it's it's kind of like, you know, having a good

(01:34:17):
meal if you will, right in a bag, you know,
right in the potato chip bag. So that's what we're
trying to do. Provide some options. Again that's delicious as
well as you know, not harmful to you know, just
your every day your everyday life.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
All right, y'all, harmonic chips we've got again, roseberry flavored, honey, honey,
holopillow honey, jalapeno, deal pickle, and of course Mackenzie.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Left out sea salt.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
So these are the four chips right here. Go to
shop Blackstartnetwork dot com. Shop Blackstartnetwork dot com for these
black owned chips.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
Y'all can check them out again.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
These you taste buzz and see if y'all bodies up
like crazy, and they can come up with some other
flavors as well.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Kwan YadA, I appreciate it.

Speaker 24 (01:35:05):
Thanks a lot, well, thank you so much for having me.

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As we said in the last hour, the government shut
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on the issue of healthcare. The Senate voted tonight on
the issue page. Of course, it was fifty to forty
four vote. So they're reconvened tomorrow. Join us right now,
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show Man. It's been too long last time you were
here three years ago. So we got to do this
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I have never dodged you, man, I will give you
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Speaker 26 (01:38:27):
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Speaker 10 (01:38:43):
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Speaker 26 (01:38:46):
I'm being hustled into the national Convention, the Democratic National Convention.
There's tons of people on the floor, and suddenly I
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Speaker 10 (01:38:59):
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might crack up? I felt, how could my brother do
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You can no, I'm trying to help brother out because
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Speaker 10 (01:39:09):
Look at you called me out because my shoes did
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Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
Yes I did, Yes, I did. Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
See again, brothers helping brothers. All right, let's get right
into it. Let's talk about is shut down? This is
I'll say this here. You can disagree, that's fine. I
think the last ten months Democrats have been flailing in
the wind trying to figure out how to properly punch
back and connect with the American people against Republicans. I
believe this government shut down, which I support in that

(01:39:39):
the fight over healthcare is a fundamental issue, and based
upon polling data, it seems that Democrats have gotten their
sea legs and people are responding to calling out Republicans
on this very issue, and it is one that Democrats
shouldn't stay healed, that they should absolutely not give an
inch on.

Speaker 26 (01:40:00):
First of all, I just want you to know this
is a real issue for Americans. We're going to see
this twin tsunami that Republicans unleashed. The first is they
attack Medicaid that's going to hit at the end of
next year. And now they're gutting the Affordable Care Act,
which was part of their twenty twenty five plan, their
Project twenty twenty five plan is going to gut the
Affordable Care Act subsidies. The combined losses will be in

(01:40:21):
the many, many millions, but more savagely. In addition to
millions losing their health insurance, millions and millions, more, multiples more,
we'll see their premium's skyrocket. And what that means for
Americans is a lot of pain at a time that
everything else is going up, the cost of energy, the
cost of groceries, the cost of gasoline, and so Donald Trump,

(01:40:42):
who promised to lower costs on day one, has done
nothing but the opposite. And so Democrats have drawn a
line and said listen, if you want our votes and
you need our votes. You control the House, the Senate,
and the White House, but your responsibility is to pass
the budget. You are not going to get our vos
unless you do something about this crisis of your creation

(01:41:03):
that's going to cause pain to tens of millions of Americans.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
And what we're seeing, we're seeing a lot more robust
talking on this, communicating and go out to my iPad.
Right now, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is live on YouTube with
her quarterly update on this government shutdown. We're seeing the
messaging absolutely improve. I actually saw a lot of people

(01:41:27):
frankly saying that a video that senter Chuck Schumer put
out was an excellent video.

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
Hadn't heard that all year?

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
And so take us inside, you know, was there a
coming to Jesus moment to get Democrats to understand that
they've got to communicate better with the people, to understand
what is going on and not sort of talk at
thirty thousand feet in Capitol Hill language.

Speaker 26 (01:41:52):
Well, look, I went to Chuck and you know this
last caucus and said less Congress rather and said Democrats.

Speaker 10 (01:41:58):
Have a problem.

Speaker 26 (01:41:59):
They don't really a most Americans to get their media
through their handheld devices. And I asked them to give
me the job of trying to get my caucus to
communicate more effectively on these digital platforms.

Speaker 10 (01:42:12):
And I have to say my.

Speaker 26 (01:42:13):
Caucus took to it in an extremely incredible way. Like
you had people starting accounts, putting themselves on accounts, learning
that the best ways to communicate on these platforms be
creative in their making of videos, work with creators and influencers.

Speaker 10 (01:42:29):
We have seen the amount of engagement.

Speaker 26 (01:42:32):
That Democratic caucus, the forty seven of us have online
go up fivefold, millions and millions more followers. For the
first time, we pass Republicans Republican senators in the amount
of engagement we're getting online. And so this storm, this
healthcare crisis hit at the right time where Democrats really have.

Speaker 10 (01:42:53):
Been peaking in their ability to communicate.

Speaker 26 (01:42:55):
And I'm very glad to see millions and millions of
people engage with senators in a direct way on their platforms,
where Senators are laying it plane that Donald Trump is
coming after your healthcare. Donald Trump is going to raise
your healthcare costs for many people, doubling your premiums. That
Donald Trump, who gave tax cuts to the wealthiest Americans

(01:43:17):
all while raiding your subsidies and resources you have for
your family. This is a president that clearly works for
millionaires and billionaires. No hating on them, but he's working
against working people. And we're seeing it in everything, especially
right now, we're seeing it in healthcare.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
When we talk about what we're seeing, I did a
video back in January after inauguration that I say, what
we're seeing right now is a massive effort to defund
Black America from Donald Trump. In these maga folks, they
are attacking every single thing. They're attacking black education, They're
attacking books, They're forcing companies to pull back billions of

(01:43:58):
dollars in DEI commitments. They are attacking to get three
hundred thousand black women out of jobs. You look at
black men, black youth out of jobs. You look at
the attack on everything, and and and what and what
we are seeing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
Uh, this is real.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
This is a significant threat to the future of Black America.
And and and I'll tell you, Senator uh and and
I had text your old number then your staff was monitoring.
I was really pissed off when you had one of
your colleagues, Senator Eric Schmidt, who gave one what I
call one of the most racist speeches ever, where he

(01:44:32):
gave a speech in to Peter Thiel's group that said
that the situaly this country is ours. Our ancestors bounded
it for us and only for us. And it was
and I hit a number of Democrats who didn't say anything.
We are dealing with people who do not want black
and brown people in this country, and the attack on

(01:44:53):
black and brown people is clear from Republicans.

Speaker 26 (01:45:00):
So I'm going to say this very plainly. Black folks
have been at the center of every movement for social justice,
for economic opportunity, for healthcare, for strength. I mean, you
look at our history. Black people have been a part
of making America America for more people, not just black people,
but from the labor movement to the suffrage movement, you

(01:45:23):
see African Americans at the center of making America live
up to its promise for more Americans. And so this
idea that we are divisible, that we could separate black
folks from America is outrageous. And I'm seeing exactly like
you said, you ran through the data very quick, but
black unemployment, the attack on black artists and black writers,

(01:45:48):
the firing of black employees from federal jobs, who've been
there career employees for trumped up reasons. When he got
rid of the head librarian the first time it'd ever
been a black woman.

Speaker 10 (01:46:01):
Saying that she was.

Speaker 26 (01:46:03):
Putting inappropriate materials out for lending to children, when the
Library of Congress doesn't.

Speaker 10 (01:46:09):
Even lend to children. It's a reality that just is painful.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
So let's look trying to fire a black president at
George Mason, who's been doing a hell of a job.
I mean, this is, this is they are going after
black folks left and right.

Speaker 10 (01:46:27):
But I want to I want to say this again.

Speaker 26 (01:46:31):
James Baldwin said this so eloquently when they came after
Angela Davis wrongfully. He said, if they come for you
in the morning, then they're going to come for me
at night. So understand that what Donald Trump is doing
is a threat to everyone. What he's doing in immigration
is a threat to everyone. What he's doing to free

(01:46:52):
speech is a threat to everyone. Black folks are canary
in the coal mine. And his attacks on the African
Americans is an attack on the Constitution itself. And when
you erode the rights of some people, you affect the
rights of all people. And we've got to understand in
this country more than ever that we're all in this together.

(01:47:12):
And then President singles out black folk in the way
that he's doing that literally comes after our communities, our culture,
our artists, our scientists, our engineers, our universities. When he
comes after black folks like he is doing, he is
threatening the well being not just the blacks, but of
all of America.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
But they don't think it's all of us. They do
believe it's for them. I talked about this last month
and I played the whole speech. This is just one
minute in thirty six seconds, and listen. A lot of
Democrats wouldn't touch it. The CBC put out a small statement,
was no big deal. I don't know if the DNC

(01:47:55):
did anything. I hit Ken Martin about it. But when
I saw this and I said, wait a minute, this
is a sitting United States senator. You have They just
jerry mandered a manual Cleaver's seat in Missouri. And this
is a man who sits in the same chamber with you,
who said this in twoenty twenty five, just last month,

(01:48:19):
roll it.

Speaker 30 (01:48:21):
The Kandinal Army soldiers dying of frostbite at Valley Forge,
the Pilgrims struggling to survive in the hard winter soil
of Plymouth. The Pioneers striking out from Missouri for the
wild and dangerous Frontier. The outnumbered Kentucky settlers repelling wave
after wave of Indian war Band attacks from beyond the
stockade walls. All of them will be astonished to hear

(01:48:44):
that they were only fighting for a proposition. They believed
they were fighting for a nation, a homeland for themselves
in their descendants. They fought, they bled, they struggled, They
died for us. They built this country for us. America
in all its glory, is their gift to us, handed

(01:49:05):
down across the generations. It belongs to us. It's our birthright,
it's our heritage, our destiny. If America is everything and everyone,
then it is nothing and no one at all.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Senator, he said, for us, he is not talking about
you and I.

Speaker 10 (01:49:28):
Yeah, but what about this is surprising to you?

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
No, no, no, no, it's not surprised to me at all.
I wrote the book called White Fear. It's not surprising.
My problem is, did any Democrat go to him and say,
who the hell were you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
Was he challenged?

Speaker 26 (01:49:47):
Yeah, look from Mitch McConnell to Ted Cruz.

Speaker 10 (01:49:51):
I sit in committee hearings.

Speaker 26 (01:49:52):
I watched Katanji Brown Jackson get attacked in ways there
were callous, cruel, and frankly, deeply big. I find things
that my colleagues say often incendiary and in many ways
trying to get a response. So let me tell you
what my focus is. First of all, one of the

(01:50:12):
best issues for well being to all your listeners is
to realize you do not have to attend every argument
you're invited to. I want to be clear to you
right now because Donald Trump is the chief of this
trying to bate us into debates and arguments over his incendiary,
outrageous stuff. All that's distracting us from the deeper fight

(01:50:33):
that's going on right now is that I've got hundreds
and hundreds of thousands of people in my state, including
African Americans, that have their healthcare under threat. And so
these are the fights that I'm focused on right now.
And it doesn't mean that I don't step out and
condemn what people say, and I have done that on
many things. But I'm telling you right now, and in fact,

(01:50:55):
I don't have to tell you because you've reported on it.
The part of their strategy is to overwhelm us, to
give us so much stuff that we spend all of
our time reacting and not being proactive. My focus right
now is the fight to keep the healthcare of millions
of Americans, and in particular, the hundreds of thousands of
people in New Jersey.

Speaker 10 (01:51:14):
We're gonna lose their healthcare.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
I have three panelists. I want a question from each
one of them. Your folks told us we had twenty minutes,
and so they're giving us a two minute. I'm not
sure why, because that's not how my clock is looking.
So if I can get those questions, I would greatly
appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
How can be coming there?

Speaker 10 (01:51:31):
Where are you recording this?

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
No, I'm living my show. I'm my studio. I'm at
sixteenth and K Matt Fact.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
You should come to see this black owned Look, there's
no other studio like this. The color trust me, there's
nothing like. Turn the cameraround, says he ain't been here.
Come on, turning, turning camera round, Look at this.

Speaker 1 (01:51:49):
You want to look at this?

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
You got hair Belafonte out to be turning lights up.
Turn lights up so he can see you. Got I
to be well. Look at the artwork, Hair Belafonte, balwin Man.
You they forget MSNBCCN in Fox News. It don't get
any black in the look. I got Obama on the
wall over there, and I got mvok.

Speaker 1 (01:52:10):
On the wall. We got old. We've got everybody in here.

Speaker 10 (01:52:13):
So uh, this is what I want to say.

Speaker 26 (01:52:15):
This is what I want to say for your listeners,
because I appreciate this about you. It is not just
the symbols that you put up, it's the substance you
bring even when nobody is watching. I have There's been
a number of times that you've come into a room.
You and I have been in the same room, on
opposite side of the table. You're with the journalists, I'm
with the senators, and the same person you are on

(01:52:38):
TV fighting for African Americans, fighting for the issues our
people care about, even behind closed doors. So anybody could
put posters of Malcolm XO on their on their walls,
and lord knows a lot of people do. But when
the when nobody's looking, they're not standing up and fighting
like you do for folks. So I just want you
to know that's why I will always respect you, always
heed your call, even though you lost my number.

Speaker 1 (01:53:00):
I ain't lose your number. You change your number if
we win't gonna go here? Can you called me out?

Speaker 19 (01:53:07):
Back?

Speaker 20 (01:53:08):
Then?

Speaker 10 (01:53:08):
I was a single too, called me out.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
I know you engaged. I know you engaged. I'll have
a conversation with her later. But let me let me
I got to get my questions. Then we stoppa. Please,
what's your question? Was in the Cory Booker.

Speaker 4 (01:53:21):
Well, Center Booker is good to see you a lot
of roads.

Speaker 10 (01:53:23):
It's great to see you, man, it's great. And you
put the pocket a square. I'm gonna just.

Speaker 26 (01:53:27):
Tell you you would being a little bit of a
brown nose to the host.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
No, no, no, he's an alpha.

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
He's a fellow alpha. It's a smart man.

Speaker 8 (01:53:37):
Center Bookers.

Speaker 4 (01:53:38):
It's good to see you.

Speaker 10 (01:53:40):
You know we asked your question.

Speaker 26 (01:53:42):
I'll answer your question on one condition. Man, when my book
comes out.

Speaker 10 (01:53:46):
In a few months, you'll you'll put me up.

Speaker 26 (01:53:48):
At least for one shot and all that and that
those incredible books by black authors.

Speaker 4 (01:53:52):
You've got up, oh, without adele, without a doubt. That's
not a problem, all right, all right, So we've been
a lot of play together. Can you you know in
this moment there's all these impacts that are happening to
our community. Can you talk a little bit about what
your north star looks like for black folks. I know,
I know you embrace everyone in the country, but we're

(01:54:12):
talking about black folks.

Speaker 26 (01:54:13):
No, but I'm the only Senator to my knowledge, that
lives in a black community and a majority black city.

Speaker 10 (01:54:21):
You talk about your room that there.

Speaker 26 (01:54:23):
I keep this map up right there above the continent
of Africa because I'm on the subcommittee. But above that
is is the central.

Speaker 10 (01:54:32):
Water Newark, New Jersey.

Speaker 26 (01:54:33):
The first people that ever elect me, and I don't
forget the people that first put me into public service
in the position I am right now.

Speaker 10 (01:54:40):
So this is my north star.

Speaker 26 (01:54:43):
For African Americans right now, to live in a country
where every African American child has access to great healthcare,
every African family has access to great healthcare, where every
African American family who works hard doesn't find themselves with
constant gnawing economic insecurity because their paychecks do so far

(01:55:04):
enough where they can actually afford rent. Where the harder
they work and the more they apply their genius, the
more rewards they get. They don't rewards they get, they
don't find themselves in poverty tracks, where the educational system
serves their genius and gives generation after generation chances to
make out of themselves what their ancestors dream of. And

(01:55:25):
then finally, you and I know this is where part
of that vision of health and well being includes healthy food,
access to nutritious food free of environmental toxins, where a
child doesn't have their entire future up ended because they
live in a nation that is toxic, or community or

(01:55:47):
neighborhood that's toxic, toxic air, toxic soil, toxic food.

Speaker 19 (01:55:53):
Larry Yes Center Brooker, thank you for taking time.

Speaker 6 (01:55:57):
I must say that I was born in canon Is,
still have a lot of family in Jersey.

Speaker 19 (01:56:02):
And across the bridge in Philadelphia also.

Speaker 6 (01:56:04):
So my question was I want to talk about redistricting,
and we saw what's happened in the last couple of
months in states throughout the country. We talked about it
in this show tonight, And can you talk a little
bit about particularly black political power in terms of the
number of possibly particularly congressional black congressional districts could be
you know, eliminated in.

Speaker 19 (01:56:24):
The impact that I'll have on black political power in
the future.

Speaker 10 (01:56:27):
Yeah, well, that's it's no longer. I mean that is happening.
That is happening.

Speaker 26 (01:56:32):
A lot of these states that are now rushing the
redistrict are targeting African American representatives and excuse me, and
doing what I've seen in a lot of cities where
they take a black community and they parked them out
like pieces of the pie to dilute African American votes
and African American representation.

Speaker 10 (01:56:50):
And so this to.

Speaker 26 (01:56:51):
Me is why when the Supreme Court guts the Voting
Rights Act, when the Supreme Court guts the fundamental protections
that African Americans have, it's what then makes us vulnerable
to what I think is a targeting bigotan targeting legislators

(01:57:12):
that are trying to undermine representation.

Speaker 1 (01:57:16):
Cameron Trimble, the youngster on the panel, how you.

Speaker 8 (01:57:22):
Doing, Senator Cameron Trumble?

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
Here, I just man, you ain't gonna repeat your name.
Don't he ask you a question?

Speaker 10 (01:57:29):
I want to know where he's from.

Speaker 9 (01:57:33):
From Cleveland, Ohio, but here in Washington, d C. I
had the honor of serving as President Biden's Director of
Digital Engagement for the first two years, and so my
question is squarely there with you mentioned the five hold
increase of digital engagement of kind of across platforms.

Speaker 8 (01:57:52):
But as we see the.

Speaker 9 (01:57:54):
Landscape of digital, especially social media changing with TikTok and
what we don't know is going to happen there obviously
all the bots and how X and how so many
different things on our side have been either shadow band
or suppressed. Have you really spearheaded or doing planning with
you and your colleagues across the party, not just in

(01:58:16):
the Senate, how we can look to fight back against
that in these upcoming elections because we can't take for
granted just because we can accumulate followers and we can
accumulate interest. Now that the algorithms in the playing field,
which is rapidly evolving, like what efforts are you saying
seeing because I think so much is going to be
one one and loss on the digital landscape across the board.

Speaker 26 (01:58:38):
Yeah, you're right, and it's very terrifying what can happen
because the landscape is changing so quickly with AI, the
sophistication of bots and the sophistication of algorithm influence is
really growing. So I will say I'm having a lot
of conversations both on the official side as an elected

(01:58:59):
leader that be doing everything we can to try to
protect our communications and speech from malign influence or these
platforms finding ways to unfairly choke certain content shadow ban
as you said it more. But I'm also thinking about
this on the political side of how do you run
elections in this new environment because just the Obama era,

(01:59:20):
all the innovations that were thought the Democrats were seen
then to be on the cutting edge.

Speaker 10 (01:59:24):
Well, we're well behind the game.

Speaker 26 (01:59:26):
Right now as a party and have a lot of
catchup to do. And so I am doing a lot
of meetings with people that are with the party that
are investing in this space and trying to not only
play good defense versus bot farms and all these other
things that are undermining these platforms and our influence and
our voices, but start to play offense as well so

(01:59:46):
that we can get our messaging out there and seen
by wider and broad by wider and broader audiences.

Speaker 10 (01:59:53):
And I will tell you this bringing this back full
circle to rolland is we who.

Speaker 26 (02:00:02):
Many of us live as African Americans in the culture
on certain platforms and engaging You know, it started back
in the old days with black Twitter, but now it's
evolved in a much bigger way.

Speaker 10 (02:00:16):
When you have a lot of people.

Speaker 26 (02:00:17):
Making communications decisions, but they don't understand the black community,
or the Latino community, the diverse Asian American community, they
are going to miss opportunities to commune, communicate to those
offices and leave our community feeling like they often do,
where you're just not talking to us, you're not communicating us.
We don't know what you're doing for us. And that's

(02:00:38):
why platforms like this. But strategies are so important.

Speaker 2 (02:00:43):
Well, you're absolutely right, and I'll end it with this
here not disappearing, but they got to make investment. And
I'm telling you, I've dealt with too many campaigns where
they play us small. They throw small amounts of money
and I see other folks getting six and seven figure
advice and I'm sitting here, gone really, But then they
want us to come save their asses in the last

(02:01:04):
three weeks of the campaign. And I've said this directly
to Senator Chuck Schumer. I've said it to Jeffries, I've
said to Ken Martin. I've sent it to folks DSSEC, D,
Triple C, House majority pack, sending majority pack. Don't just
sit here and reward us with meetings reward us also
with advertising, because you do it to Sinclair, you do

(02:01:25):
it to the Next Star, you do it to Tegna,
you do it to CNN, MSNBC. But they always play
black owned media small. And that's one of the reasons
why we can't actually build and have scale because we
never see those dollars.

Speaker 1 (02:01:40):
Those are just facts.

Speaker 10 (02:01:42):
For people that don't know this.

Speaker 26 (02:01:44):
When campaigns are spending literally hundreds of millions of dollars
on communication and they think they can communicate to our
communities without going onto platforms like these and doing what
we do with other platforms with the majority, they're making
not only a bad mistake in terms of getting to

(02:02:05):
black community and communicating to the black community, they're also
undermining black communication apparatuses altogether. So you Roland and I
have been talking about this for years. When I came
into the Senate, it was a much different place. And now,
thanks to Chuck Schumer's leadership and others, the people making
decisions in the DS are more diverse, and you see

(02:02:27):
black faces in those spaces helping to actually decide where
money goes.

Speaker 10 (02:02:32):
And that's making a big difference.

Speaker 1 (02:02:33):
Well by even more diverse, but I can tell you.

Speaker 2 (02:02:37):
I don't recall seeing any of that in twenty four,
so we'll see what happens in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 26 (02:02:42):
Okay, man, all right, I'm running in twenty six, so
let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:45):
All right, Sena, we appreciate it. Send me a text
and let's have you back on and then we'll have
you in the studio. Let me know when your book
comes out as well.

Speaker 10 (02:02:54):
I appreciate you, man, Thank you all right.

Speaker 1 (02:02:56):
Thanks so much, folks. We end the show on a
sad note.

Speaker 2 (02:02:59):
Grab Imy winning R and B artists DiAngelo has passed
away the age of fifty one years old due to
pancreatic cancer.

Speaker 1 (02:03:07):
He kept it quiet just among his family. He was
born Michael D'Angelo.

Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
Archer rose to favor the nineteen nineties with his groundbreaking
debut album Brown Sugar. The hit single Lady, peaked at
number ten on the Billboard Hot one hundred in March
of nineteen ninety six, spinning twenty weeks on the charts.
He reached even greater success with his two thousand softom
album Voodoo, which debuted at number one of the Billboard
two hundred and earned the Grammy Award for Best R
and B album, its lead single untitled how Does It Feel?

(02:03:33):
Also want a Grammy for Best Male R and B
Vocal Performance and of course sisters know about that video.
It submitted his legacy as one of the most influential
voices in R and B. Stab me from DiAngelo and
now keep in mind he had a child with Angie Stone.
She died tragically in the car crash in March. Their
son Michael released this statement. I am grateful for your

(02:03:55):
thoughts and prayers during these very difficult times. As it
has been a very rough and sad year for me.
I asked you please continue to keep me in your thoughts,
as will not be easy. But one thing that both
my parents thought, uh me was to be strong. Taught
it was to be strong and uh and of course
he said, I intend to do just that. As I said,

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Angie Stone she passed away and they crash while she
was traveling Alabama in March.

Speaker 1 (02:04:23):
I'm gonna go to you, Larry first.

Speaker 2 (02:04:25):
It's unmistakable when you talk about the impact of D'Angelo
did not put out a ton of work, but extremely influential.

Speaker 1 (02:04:34):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:04:34):
And I remember that, uh that that black male anthem.
You will know uh that pulled together a plethora of
black black male singers that was written and produced by
D'Angelo as well.

Speaker 6 (02:04:47):
Yeah, you know, this is is really hit hard when
I heard the news today, rolling like a lot of folks,
you know D'Angelo that neo soul period along with him
and Erica Baidu, Jill Scott, you know, Maxwell other what
was really important time for me as a young adult
in terms of the music. But you're right, his impact
on R and B and sole music is unquestionable without

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and he's going to be missed. I remember a few
months after, you know, his album came out in ninety five,
seeing him in DC and the crowd and the vibes,
and like I said, for a lot of black men
in terms of that balance in terms of love for
black women but also the soul and also how we
could be you know, vulnerable at the same time.

Speaker 22 (02:05:31):
So his music will be missed.

Speaker 6 (02:05:33):
And like a lot of black folks, I was really
broken about it today.

Speaker 4 (02:05:38):
The Angelo's music was pure. It actually touched your soul
and that's the reason that it will live forever. I
hope that the lesson also here is that we continue
to die disproportionally from pancreatic cancer. We die at the
highest numbers. And I hope that you know, even though
we've lost this magnificent brother, that because of that loss,
folks will go out make sure they're taking care of

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their health and making sure that they're getting tested.

Speaker 1 (02:06:01):
Absolutely, Cameron, this definitely hit home for me.

Speaker 9 (02:06:09):
Was I was in squarely in my youth in high
school and college when Brown Sugar came out and then
when Voodoo came out and saw that real, real world effect.
He came to Howard homecoming while I was there. But
one thing I will say is in the recent pandemic
in the Versus series, I'm so glad he got to
get his flowers again, not that he ever lost them,

(02:06:32):
but it was really good to see him be able
to be able to perform on a global stage again
one time and reconnect to his music. And I think
one lesson from his music or from his career. As
you mentioned, he didn't put out a lot of albums.
I think he maybe would put out three.

Speaker 1 (02:06:46):
Yeah, because he took off.

Speaker 2 (02:06:48):
He took off a significant pier about five years, so
he took off a lot of time as well, like
a lot of artists do.

Speaker 9 (02:06:54):
But go ahead, but when you see the impact of
how big, how much you can do with such powerful music,
I mean, Brown Sugar. If you look at my title
right now, is still my top definitely top ten R
and B albums. I listened to Jones and my Bone Cruising.
I know it might be blasphemous, but I listened to
that more than I listened to the Smokey Robinson version.

(02:07:17):
Maybe that's just my generation, but for what he was
able to do, his voice, his soul, his instrumentation, his ardustry.
I've been able to see him at least three times
per form of My Life. I'm really sad and impressed
to his family in all his fans.

Speaker 2 (02:07:34):
This is a statement that was put out by Lauren Hill,
and she posted this, I regret not having more time
with you. Your undeniable beauty and talent were not of
this world, and a presence not of this world needs
protection in a world that covers light and the anointing
of God.

Speaker 1 (02:07:51):
You, sir, moved us, through us.

Speaker 2 (02:07:53):
Inspired and even intimidated others to action with your genius.
Thank you for being a beacon of light to a
generation and beyond who had no remembrance of the legacy
that preceded us. Thank you for chariting the course of
for making space during a time when no similar space
really existed. You imaged, you imagine a unity of strength
and sensitivity in black manhood to a generally imaged a

(02:08:17):
unity of strength and sensitivity in black manhood, to a
generation that only saw itself as having to be one
or the other. It is my earnest prayer that you
are in peace, far away from selfishness, fear and or
controlling interest, far from possessiveness, far from greed, far from manipulation,
far from exploitation, far from intentionally designed chaos, and that you,

(02:08:38):
brother are in peace, in bliss and an eternal light
and fulfillment.

Speaker 1 (02:08:43):
With our Father in heaven. I love you and I
missed you.

Speaker 2 (02:08:46):
May God grant peace and shelter to your family, true friends,
and genuine appreciators, Brother King, That, of course, is a
statement from Lauren Heill with regards to the passing of Angelo.
You know, I was having a conversation Mustava with someone
the other day, and this individual, the sister I was
talking to, she was talking about how she's been pained

(02:09:11):
by a lot of things, and she said, primarily, she said,
because I'm now experiencing things that my parents experienced.

Speaker 1 (02:09:20):
I knew she was talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:09:21):
What she was talking about is that, you know, when
you reach your fifties, all of a sudden, the passing
of people who we know, people who we admire, whether
they are entertainers or singers or at the least, but
also classmates begin to pick up because there are more
years behind us and in front of us, you know.

(02:09:42):
And of course D'Angelo was dealing with pancreatic cancer. There
are people who are down, are experiencing so many different things.
And what I tell folks constantly, and I get people,
they always crack me up. They say, man, you're always
going here, You're always playing golf, You're always doing this
and doing that. And I remind you, well, I'm like eight,
no day, ain't no hour, ain't no minute, no second promised.

(02:10:04):
And the reality is we got to live life to
the fullest. And I always use the hashtag live life,
love it. And because we have to recognize that we
all have a timestamp, all have an expiration date.

Speaker 1 (02:10:17):
And we said we don't know what it is.

Speaker 4 (02:10:20):
Well, you know, I believe that we're all sent here
to do good, to touch, to make sure that folks
know that they're seeing and valued and honored. And when
I think about DiAngelo, when I think about a number
of folks who have you know, crossed over to be
with the ancestors, you know, that's what they did. And
that's why it's so incredibly important for us to honor folks,

(02:10:41):
both when they're here in this moment, putting our arms
around them, whether you know it is actually physically or
through thoughts and prayers and connection by picking up the phone.
But it is also about us honoring everything that they
left behind and cherishing that and protecting it, especially in

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the time of erasure. You know, our music is so
incredibly important. Our poetry is important. All the things that
writers do is so incredibly important because it is the
essence of who we are. And DiAngelo brought that forward.
If you listen to his music when we talk about
soul music, his music was just that all you have
to do is turn down the lights. All you have

(02:11:23):
to do is put on that album and it takes
you to another place. It replenishes you. And we should
do that each and every day with each other, especially
when folks are always coming for us. I always want
black folks to truly love black folks. We talk about that,
but we don't always put it into action. So you know,
hopefully this is a remembrance of not only how special

(02:11:47):
we are, not only of our black excellence and beauty,
but also that we need to live it each and
every day because, as you said, one day there will
be an expiration, but the expiration doesn't have to and
who we were and what we gave back to our
people and to future generations.

Speaker 2 (02:12:05):
At that point, Larry, I think it's so important because
the one thing about music, but it's not just even music.
We now live in a visual world and those words
can live on and on on. Andrew Young and basilor
Young actually texted me the other day and I was like, Yo,
is it the button doll?

Speaker 1 (02:12:20):
What happened? I hit him and we had a brief chat.

Speaker 2 (02:12:22):
But he always says doctor King was assassinated April fourth,
nineteen sixty eight, he said, But literally, he said, physically,
he's done here, but he still lives with us every
day because anywhere and somewhere in the world he's being
talked about, his speeches are being played, his books are
being read, he said. So the reality is, he said,
Martin has been living with us every single day since

(02:12:44):
the day that he was physically taken from us. And
that's also the power of music when an artist passes away.

Speaker 4 (02:12:51):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 19 (02:12:52):
And it's funny you mentioned it because.

Speaker 4 (02:12:54):
DeAngelo rhine me my fully.

Speaker 6 (02:12:56):
You know, famous musicians Teddy pintograts in terms of sensuality
and his lyrics, and it's appeal to women. But you're right, Roland,
his music will live on, and he will his music
will influence generations of musical artists long after we're gone.
And that's the legacy that musicians can leave that many
of us could never understand. But his legacy is without question,

(02:13:19):
and he will continue to live on. And let's listen
to his music in the car or wherever we are
working out, et cetera. And I sent my condolences to his.

Speaker 2 (02:13:27):
Son and camera to the point you've been earlier, listen,
artists learned from other artists, So there's no doubt you're
going to have a generation of artists that looks that
looked at D'Angelo how he did music, how he produced
that voice, the writing and the instrumentation, and say, hey, man,
I can gain inspiration from that.

Speaker 8 (02:13:49):
I agree.

Speaker 9 (02:13:51):
I think it was it was, it was his instrumentation,
it was his distinct he had a distinct voice. I
think there is something to be said about him taking
those breaks touring and then taking time to refiel his
creative energy and then come back with another amazing classic

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can hit that. I know, the modern music times, in
this digital age, it's harder to do, uh, but it might.
Like they said, there's something over quality over quantity. And
then one thing, I mean, we I know, we jokingly
we alluded to it, that untitled how does it feel?
The visual of that and how striking that was. And
obviously I was, like I said, I was squarely in

(02:14:32):
college when that came out and that was all the
rage of all the women.

Speaker 2 (02:14:36):
But what I will say, hey, it was simple. It
was simple. But necking the black background, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (02:14:46):
But I will say, like, just in terms of when
you say inspiring it and something that was so simple
and that was you remember the two thousands nineties is
when they're spending half a million million dollars two million
dollars on videos and one of the most impactful videos
that still sticks out into your day is something I
guarantee you shouldn't have cost more than a maybe ten,

(02:15:07):
a few thousand dollars, just whatever it took, the lighting
and so forth. So for him to go against the
mold at a time at a time, specifically then when
people were pouring so much into that, and he just
let the music and the visual connect. And then now
when you hear it, I mean, I don't watch the video,
but you hear the song.

Speaker 2 (02:15:24):
Like how you like, I don't watch the video work,
trust me, you put the video around his sister the
scene that's gonna change, folks. The great musician Rafei El
Sadek had a conversation with iHeart Radio. He talked about
working with the Angelo on the song Lady. Here's what
he said.

Speaker 28 (02:15:43):
The first time we met, Dean was supposed to come
to my house and he didn't show up the first day,
and then but he came the next day.

Speaker 31 (02:15:52):
But I think he.

Speaker 28 (02:15:53):
Thought, you know, he was gonna come to a house
and it was going to look like the the rich
and famous, probably with a viril stairs and helpers everybody
in the house. And I'm going to yeah, but but
he thought me a lot of people. He don't really
like a lot of people, you know, And then he
found out I don't either. So when he got to

(02:16:13):
my my little two bedroom, you know, two hundred and
thirty five thousand dollars crib. But you know my it
was in the garage, just me, him and my engineer.
It's Sacramento, sac Yeah. And I was in this neighborhood
full of like lobbyists and politicians, right, and we were.

Speaker 31 (02:16:32):
Just and he's just he was just so surprised. He
didn't tell me.

Speaker 4 (02:16:36):
Later.

Speaker 31 (02:16:37):
I thought his house was going to be crowded a
lot of people, and it wasn't.

Speaker 28 (02:16:40):
And so.

Speaker 31 (02:16:42):
I started playing.

Speaker 1 (02:16:45):
Lady.

Speaker 31 (02:16:47):
That's the first thing we worked on, was a Lady.

Speaker 28 (02:16:49):
You had that already, yeah, wow, I have the idea
because it was supposed to be for Tony's record.

Speaker 31 (02:16:56):
The idea, but like House of Music, maybe, yeah, I
didn't like it. They didn't.

Speaker 28 (02:17:00):
They didn't like the initial idea. They never heard it
what it was going to be, you know, neither did I.
But I played the guitar riffs for D'Angelo and he said,
he said, I like it. I said, cool, So I
was gonna call somebody over to play my guitar parts over.

Speaker 31 (02:17:19):
He said, no, you used to leave what you did.

Speaker 28 (02:17:23):
And that's the first time my guitar playing playing ever
got on the record?

Speaker 31 (02:17:27):
Wow? They never got on the record.

Speaker 28 (02:17:29):
Yeah. So but I think how we came up with that,
we figured out we were we were playing.

Speaker 31 (02:17:36):
We were playing, and we were playing behind the beat.

Speaker 28 (02:17:39):
But I think we were just really trying to lock
lock something in and so he would fall back and
he would start laughing. Then I would fall back, and
we started kind of smiling and laughing, and it became
we just kept going back and forth but not talking
about it, and it became sort of the style of
his record. But that's the way he sing sings, that's

(02:18:00):
why he plays wow. And it was just natural for him.
But he's a Dela fan. Yeah, And so then you know,
I'm a Dela fan too. So I figured it out
later we were just mocking Dilla really that that early
early on, I think Dela was the first one.

Speaker 31 (02:18:16):
Okay, are we just are we heard it through hip hop?

Speaker 1 (02:18:19):
Yeah? Right?

Speaker 31 (02:18:20):
Maybe just maybe we heard.

Speaker 28 (02:18:22):
It on some on some on some Wool Tan records,
Maybe we heard it on some Tribe records. We just
love I love hip hop, right, So I think both
our love for the Hawks and gospel and hip hop
and rock and songwriting.

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It's just it was just a perfect storm of the right.

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