Mo. GOP Map Targets Black Voters, Pressley Demands Powell Answer on Black Jobs, Pastor vs. MAGA

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey, folks.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Today's Tuesday, September ninety, twenty twenty five, coming up on
roland Mark Unfilter, the streaming live on the Black Star Network.
I'm here at the Equal Justice Institute in Montgomery, Alabama,
and so we are here in their Legacy Museum annex
here for a meeting of Black strategises. I'll tell you
more about that later in today's show. In Missouri, Republicans

(00:34):
have passed a racially jered manner congressional map that removed
the congressional district of.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
We'll talk with Congressman ev At Clark Sarre the Congression
of Black Caucus about this attack on black members of Congress.
Also in today's show, Congresswoman Againna Presley of Massachusetts. She
has demanded that Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell addressed the
rising unemployment rate of black women. She will join us
on today show as well. A New York pastor Abbacy

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and Baptist Church is calling out Maga Christians.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Will show you exactly what he has to say.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
And I keep telling y'all, these white Republicans are so
focused and concern about white verbs, white fertility rates and
so wait, try I show you a conversation that Maga
Republican Charlie Kirk had.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
The laur Ingram on Fox News.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Also, folks, in our marketplace segment, Our Lovers, You're gonna
enjoy today's segment.

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Folks.

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It's a lot we're going to talk about. It's time
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Speaker 7 (02:16):
No, hey, folks.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
So I am here in Montgomery, Alabama for a series
of meanings the last couple of days, and here at
the Equal Justice Institute. This is their legacy annex. They've
actually opened up their legacy museum. And they had, of
course also an amazing memorial dedicated to those people who
have been lynched, as well as a sculpture parking. I

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wanted to purposely show you this here, so this is
literally where we are, and some step out of the
way so you see what it says on the wall.
Here you're standing on a site where enslaved people were warehoused.
And this was an eight year effort for them to
get this property, to get this And so if you
come to downtown Montgomery, they have this facility, the Legacy Museum,

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like I said, their sculpture Park.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
So it's a whole lot that's here in Montgomery.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
And so we appreciate Brian Stevenson and his staff allowing
us to be able to meet here the last couple
of days. And so we certainly are standing on hollow
ground again where enslaved people people who you know, thousands
of slaves that came through Alabama coming through.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
This particular place as well.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
In fact, they have a sign here that shows by
eighteen sixty in Mobile County you had some eleven thousand
enslave people of Africa descent.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Here in Montgomery some twenty one.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Thousand, seven hundred and ten, and Naxus, Mississippi, was fourteen thousand,
and then New Orleans was fourteen thousand. So you literally
had more the population of slave black people in major
trade centers. This was one of the major trade centers Montgomery, Alabama,
and so I just wanted to share that history with you, folks,

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let's talk about what's happening with racially Jerry banner all
across the country. Today, the state Senate in Missouri past
a racially Jerry Mander map at dismantles the congressional seat
of Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver. Now in Missouri, there are ten
members of Congress, seven or eight Republicans, two Democrats, one
Democrat Emanual Clever in Kansas.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
City, Wesley Bell is in Saint Louis.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
And so they are destroying the district of Emmanuel Clever
to give them a seven to one advantage. And so
that's what is happening right now. So you see what's
going on across mypologies. They have right now it's eight members,
six Republicans, two Democrats. This would give them a seven

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to one majority. This is a stately released by Democratic
chair Ken Martin. He said, Missouri House Republicans following the
lead of Donald Trump to rig the state's congressional maps.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Its corruption at its worst.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Missouri House Democrats fought back every step of the way,
including representatives read folks, and dean who hosts they sent
in since Thursday to stand up for Missouri voters, the
American people are fed up with Donald Trump and his
Republican circus. Cost or Rising, he said, cost or rising,
the economy is tanking, and his signature legislation is a

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massive transfer of wealth from the bottom to the top.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
No wonder Trump is trying to rig the game.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
He knows Republicans can't win elections on their abysmal record.
Democrats will continue to fight back every step of the way.
And make no mistake, this fight in Missouri is not over. Journalists.
Right now, Congresswoman Evet Clark, out of New York's The
Chairs wrested the Black Caucus. Glad to have you back
on the show. Congresswoman, what you're seeing right now is
literally an arms race. We saw course Republicans in Texas,

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following the lead of Donald Trump, racially Jaman of that
state getting read five Democratic districts, including two African Americans,
one in Dallas, one in Houston. California Governor Gavin Newsom
he responded saying that he would be changing the maps there.
Of course, in your home state, Governor Kathy Hokel says
should be moving to do the exact same thing there.

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And so at some point, where does this end? Where
do black voters of course are being impacted. Then, of course,
we had that Supreme Court case that could very well
wipe out half of the Congression of Black Caucus. And
so I had been trying to tell people there's a
massive effort to defund Black America and there's a direct
attack on Black representation in the United States as we speak.

Speaker 8 (06:40):
Absolutely well, first of all, thank you for having me Roland,
and let me just correct something. They are actually eliminating
four black congressional seats, actually.

Speaker 9 (06:52):
Five in Texas.

Speaker 8 (06:55):
It's the two seats held by Jasmine Crockett and Mark
in the.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, yeah, area. Five in Texas with two black.

Speaker 8 (07:03):
Yes, well, but they also uh, there's also the two
in the Houston area, the one that is represented by
Congressman Al Breen and the vacancy that was left vacant
by the death of Sylvester Turner, so that we could
lose four uh CBC members UH in this redistricting battle

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in Texas. And as you've rightly stated today, unfortunately, UH
the legislature in Missouri moved to UH redistrict UH emanguel
Congressman Emmanuel Cleever out of his seat in the Kansas City,
Missouri area, and we're seeing these moves across the nation

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at the behest of Donald Trump. In red states where
Republicans the majority in their legislative body, so whether it's
Indiana or Ohio.

Speaker 9 (08:06):
There has been this rush to a mid decade.

Speaker 8 (08:12):
Redistricting, all in an effort to try to give the
House of Representatives an advantage on the Republican side for
the twenty twenty sixty elections. And we actually held a
press conference today Roland to highlight the numbers of CBC

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members that are impacted and are potentially impacted by what
is taking place right now. Even in Louisiana, there is
litigation about to commence because they too are moving After
having just gone through the process of expanding representation for

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black voters in Louisiana, they have now backtracked after it
was a Republican governor Republican state legislature that expanded their
map to include another black opportunity district. So this is
all under the pressure and vice of Donald Trump, but

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there's a willingness on the part of these Republican state
legislators to do his bidding, all at the unfortunately, at
the demise of the representation of black communities across this country,
and in Ohio it's the Amelia Sites seat representative Amelia Sites,

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which is not a majority black districts, but represent the
values of the people in Akron, Ohio and its environs,
and they're trying to eliminate her seat as well.

Speaker 9 (10:01):
Well.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
The question people are asking this, Okay, how do they respond?
What do they do? Look, we saw what happen in Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Republicans dismantled the congressional district in Nashville, literally splitting it
into four congressional districts. So we see Republicans are doing
there in Missouri and so so what do you say?
How do the voters respond? And for me, what I
keep saying is that for black voters, we have to
maximize our vote and we can't be simply in elections

(10:32):
and voting at thirty five forty five percent of our capacity.

Speaker 8 (10:37):
Absolutely, Well, there are a couple of things.

Speaker 7 (10:39):
One we need to.

Speaker 9 (10:40):
Register our discuss with what's taking place.

Speaker 8 (10:44):
If you know you, you know, are taking for granted
the fact that you have someone representing you in Congress
that is reflective of your lived experiences, that is fighting
and using their voice to amplify your aspirations and your desires,

(11:04):
then you need to be outraged by what is taking
place right now. Is very clear to us that the
demids of the Republicans in these states is.

Speaker 9 (11:17):
What they are running from. They know that they have
passed some very unpopular bills, painful legislation.

Speaker 8 (11:26):
That is now law, and that they're going to pay
a price for it, and so they're trying to get
out ahead of that by geremandering in a mid decade
and basically putting themselves in the majority, so they think,
you know, in perpetuity.

Speaker 9 (11:44):
And so we've got to fight back.

Speaker 8 (11:47):
Right now, there is a very important court case that
is about to get started in Louisiana that will have
implications across the United States, because what we recognize is that.

Speaker 9 (11:58):
This is not germandering just for jerimandering sakes.

Speaker 8 (12:02):
This is racially motivated jere mandering, and that is clearly
unconstitutional under Section two of the Voting Rights Act. And
so we've got to make sure that we're educating our folks,
we're informing them, and that we are drilling down into
the grassroots so that people understand what.

Speaker 9 (12:21):
Is that stake here.

Speaker 8 (12:22):
It's not just losing your voidies, but it is trying
to rig the political system so that Republicans and MAGA
in particular are empower in perpetuity.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Well, here's the thing here, when you say we have
to fight back, well, I keep hearing people, what does
that mean?

Speaker 1 (12:45):
What does that look like for us to fight back?

Speaker 8 (12:48):
Well, I think we can take a page out of
the page of John Lewis and the foot soldiers.

Speaker 9 (12:56):
Of the civil rights movement.

Speaker 8 (12:57):
They are the ones they paid in their blood, bloody
Sunday right to vote.

Speaker 9 (13:04):
And so here here we are with facing the.

Speaker 8 (13:10):
Specter of disenfranchisement on multiple levels. Redistricting is is just
one tool that they've been using. But they're trying to
eliminate vote by mail, They're trying to restrict voter registration
and erect.

Speaker 9 (13:25):
Barriers to the ballot box.

Speaker 8 (13:27):
This is all in an attempt again to wrestle power
out of the black community, to empower our adversaries who
clearly are racially motivated in the work that in their
movements politically.

Speaker 9 (13:48):
And so we've got to.

Speaker 8 (13:49):
Meet fire with fire, and that looks like going into
our communities on the ground, having our civil rights organizations,
their affiliates, our any organizations in our communities that are
all about empowering our people need to make sure that
they're educated, they're informed, that we motivate people because I

(14:11):
know that there's so much cynicism out there, there is
so much misinformation and disinformation being consumed in our community
that it's unfortunately to our own demise.

Speaker 9 (14:23):
We know that, you know, the.

Speaker 8 (14:25):
NAACP Legal Defense Fund will be in the courts, particularly
in Louisiana, and when they're successful, that ultimately should have
put a halt to all of the gerremandering that's taking place,
particularly in uh, you know, in Texas and Missouri and Indiana,

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in Ohio.

Speaker 9 (14:47):
But we need to ratchet up, you know, the volume of.

Speaker 8 (14:52):
Our dismay, our disgust of what is taking place, and
we need to be in protest mode.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
All right, Cosbonnyvit Clark, We appreciate you joing us on
the show. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 9 (15:06):
Thank you for having me.

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Roland appreciate it. Folks, Gotta go to break. I'll be
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Next on the Black Table with me Craig Carr.

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Immigrants lured off Texas streets and shipped to places like
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Speaker 14 (16:29):
Believe it or not, we've seen it all before.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Your people in the North.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
You're so sympathetic to black people.

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You take that.

Speaker 15 (16:36):
Sixty years ago they called it the reverse Freedom riots.
Back then, Southern governors shipped black people north with the
false promise of jobs and a better life. It's part
of a well known playbook being brought back to life.

Speaker 14 (16:51):
So what's next? That's next on the Black Table, A
conversation with.

Speaker 15 (16:55):
Doctor Gerald Horn about this issue of the reverse Freedom
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Speaker 2 (17:20):
Roland Martin on Unfiltered, All right, you used my pound
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Justice at the EPA, joined us out of DC. Doctor
Randy Bryant. She's entrepreneur, author, speaker, and creator of the

(17:42):
Truth in Game out of Washington, d C. Joe Richardson
and Civil Right's attorney out of Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Let me start with you, Joe.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
What we're seeing here, and I have been yelling and
screaming and sounding this alarm for the longest. We are
seeing a direct attack on every black institution in this country.
And we're going to keep saying this until black folks
wake up and realize this. But mag Republicans are doing.
They are angry with what is taking place in the

(18:13):
last sixty years, and so they are attacking black politics.
They're attacking black economics, they're attacking black academia, they're attacking
black health agencies.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
They're attacking every single thing.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
This is a complete effort to defund Black America, and
people cannot act like this thing is normal. I mean,
if I had to make a comparison and I keep
doing this, I mean to be in this facility Equal
Justice Institute. I'm talking about reconstruction. What we saw in
the period of reconstruction in the aftermath is what we're

(18:46):
seeing right here. I long said that the death of
George Floyd marked the third reconstruction. I kept warning people
that this thing needs to have last at least twenty years,
a minimum of twenty years.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
To truly be effective. The first two were shortened.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Well, guess what, the third word didn't even last as
long as the first two. And so in the aftermath
of a reconstruction period, there always was a vicious attack
on African Americans. And after the first reconstruction eighteen sixty
five eighteen seventy seven, you saw the attack on Black
Pool Representation where they ran every African American out of Congress.

(19:26):
What we are seeing right now is the same thing,
a backlash, a vicious attack against Black America.

Speaker 18 (19:36):
Yeah, there's always a flipback with each and every one
of these events that charged black progress.

Speaker 7 (19:44):
And so here we are again right after.

Speaker 18 (19:48):
Barack Obama and then eventually George Floyd that now you
see this flipback going on again, and so they're trying
to flip it all the way back. And meanwhile, back
at the ranch, if we're not voting the way that
we need to, then it gets more different.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
I mean, voting is the most important battle line here.

Speaker 18 (20:09):
The idea that you know, and we feel like we're
talking like a broken records here, that we've been We've
longched blood, We've sacrificed blood, sweat and tears for people
to be able to vote, for our people to be
able to vote, and the idea that someone could actually
think that.

Speaker 7 (20:27):
They're okay, black person okay, despite.

Speaker 18 (20:29):
The fact of not voting. And this is not regular Chairman.
You have some people saying, well, you know, the Democrats
do this all the time, this and that and the other.
Not only is it, you know, in the middle of
the ten years towards the census, but it is directly
calculating towards getting rid of black votes black voices, particularly

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because not only because black voices exist and they stand
up for black people, but because black folks typically make
difference because of how well they vote together from a
percentage standpoint between Democrats and winning and losing election.

Speaker 9 (21:08):
And so that's what they're trying to do.

Speaker 18 (21:10):
So you know, I'll be in DC a couple of
weeks and it'll be interested to see what's left of
the African American Museum, what they're trying to take away,
how they're trying to take away history, tell different stories.
I'm sure it's amazing you're sitting where you are, Roland,
because this is exactly the kind of thing that they
want to treat like it doesn't exist.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
And so we do have to wake up understand what
it is it's actually going on, that this is.

Speaker 18 (21:33):
A direct attack on black folks, black things, black history,
black culture, black contributions.

Speaker 9 (21:43):
You keep filling it in and at the same time understand.

Speaker 18 (21:48):
That attacks on constitutional rights involving any and everyone affect us.

Speaker 8 (21:53):
All.

Speaker 18 (21:53):
Sure, we're focused, we ought to be focused on what
is affecting us, But listen, if they can go walk
down the street, Coress, this person, that person, without charges,
without constitutional basis, then that's bad news for all of those.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
We're going to have a conversation when young the press
that coming up next talking about childing the Federal Reserve
when it comes to more than three hundred thousand black
women losing their jobs. A little bit later on the show,
we're going to have Congress and Al Green talking about
access to capital and money flooring two tier one black banks. Randy,
that's what people don't understand. I don't think people really

(22:32):
fully comprehend what our world will look.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Like when you talk about you have what some sixty
seven members of the correctionion of Black Caucus.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Right now, if the Supreme Court with the jerry mandering, Okay,
you're going to lose two in Texas, You're gonna lose
one in Missouri.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
That's three right there. They're going to take out one
in Ohio.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Ronda Santis ran through his maps that took out one
of the districts in Florida. If the Supreme Court ruling
and looks, we just saw a Supreme Court yesterday give
the great light to racially profiling Latinos in the California. Listen,
if this Supreme Court says, yeah, you know what, we're
bouncing race based districts.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Half of the.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Congressional Black Caucus is wiped out, and all the people
who love complaining about the CBC. It is the CDC that, oh,
do you understand what will happen if you lose half
of black members of Congress. That's what people have to
fully comprehend what's going on.

Speaker 14 (23:28):
You know.

Speaker 19 (23:29):
Yeah, I resist being an alarmist, but it's absolutely.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Time to ring the alarm.

Speaker 20 (23:34):
I mean, we are being viciously attacked, and he is
trying to ensure the whole Trumplicans are trying to ensure
that black people don't have a voice, that we have
no representation, that we have no say so, and that
is absolutely scary. We see what's happening already as it is,
where they are passing laws that allow them to completely

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discriminate against us without any sort of due process. What
I try to tell people about yesterday's ruling. If they're
saying that they can do race based stops, nothing else,
nothing else needs to make them to make them want
to could go after somebody, but someone's raised, or that
they're speaking Spanish, if someone essentially does not look American,

(24:17):
their very narrow view of what an American is, we absolutely.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
Should know that we are in danger. They will look
at a black.

Speaker 20 (24:25):
Person and say this black person doesn't look American or
seems like a threat. And then when you go back
to the jerrymandering, when they're saying, we think that we
would we could lose because they know Black people, when
we are united and fired up and focused, we get
out there and vote. And so what they're saying is
because they're losing, they could lose.

Speaker 19 (24:44):
They say, well, let's just change the rules, let's just
change the maps, and so our votes will get lost
and are anybody that represents us will be lost, And
so we're in big trouble.

Speaker 20 (24:56):
If no one is fighting for us, there's no voices
for us. So yes, it is time to ring the
alarm and for all of us to wake up and
raise hell.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
You know, people out there could think we're playing, we're joking. Mustapha,
I'm wearing this shirt. Don't blame me, but for the
black woman, we are seeing the results of what happened
when we elected this thug in chief and how they
are attacking every black institution.

Speaker 21 (25:32):
Refine democracy in many of our communities across our country.
These folks aren't playing, but they continue to play in
your face. And folks just continue to allow it because
they keep thinking, well, it can't get any worse, It
can't happen to me all the things that help you
to sleep at night.

Speaker 22 (25:48):
But the reality the situation is is that you are
also on the chopping block.

Speaker 21 (25:53):
When I looked at the maps that they were doing today,
in the sets of actions that they continue to move forward,
and I was thinking to myself, this looks like a
crime scene sketch, because what you continue to find is
that they are literally.

Speaker 22 (26:05):
Taking their hands and strangling our communities.

Speaker 21 (26:08):
They are strangling the resources out of our communities, They're
strangling the power out of our communities, they are strangling
the future out of our communities. And people still but
will just sit back and say, well, maybe that's not
going to happen in any greater way. And when they
do these when they do these maps, here's the interesting things.
They're really giving you all the middle finger. That's what

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they're doing. They're saying that I don't care no matter
what happens, We're going to make sure that black folks
know that they're not welcome, that brown folks know that
they're not welcome, that Democrats know that they're not welcome.
That's exactly what these sets of actions are sending a
very clear message.

Speaker 22 (26:45):
So you're gonna have to make a decision. Are you
going to get up and get engaged.

Speaker 21 (26:49):
Are those folks who call themselves our allies actually going
to show up and do some real work this time?
Or you will blink and you will not find democracy.
But not just you won't find democracy. See, you're not
going to have any rights, and you're gonna find yourself
in a very dangerous and precarious situation in the not
so distant future.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
So folks gonna go to a break. We come back.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
We're going to talk to congres wann Yanna Preshley. She
is pressure the case when it comes to the more
than three hundred thousand black women who have lost jobs
since January.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
We'll have her next.

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Speaker 2 (29:48):
Folks, Houston Commerce and al Green as always to the
for African Americans and black banks. Well, during a congressional hearing,
he advocated on behalf of those blanks banks and they
should be getting one funding. Here's what you have to share.

Speaker 16 (30:03):
Let me now recognize gentlemen from Texas.

Speaker 17 (30:05):
Mister Grin for five minutes.

Speaker 13 (30:07):
Thank you, Madam Chair.

Speaker 27 (30:09):
I think the ranking member for her comments and would
associate myself with the comments of the ranking member. I
would call to our attention the intelligence that has been
provided to me indicating that there are four four hundred
and eighty seven FDIC insured institutions, and it is my

(30:33):
belief that less than fifty are black owned. In fact,
less than forty a black home to be more accurate,
less than thirty a black hole, to be even more accurate,
less than one percent a black hole. I'm interested in

(30:57):
knowing how we can use this topic of funding access
to acquire more black banks. I've been with friends who
started banks. It is not easy to acquire tier one capital,

(31:19):
tier one capital. It's not a black bank in the
country with ten billion dollars and tier one capital, probably
two exceed one billion, probably two. Now, mister James, you're
much more educated on these things that I so correct me.

(31:39):
Do we have more than two black banks with tier
one capital exceeding a billion dollars?

Speaker 28 (31:46):
Thank you for the question, Congressman Green. Actually, there are
twenty five black owned institutions in the United States, and
there are two that exceed one billion in total assets.
So technically know there are no institutions that are black
owned that have more than a billion dollars in Tier

(32:06):
one capital. These are institutions that are just over a
billion dollars in total assets.

Speaker 27 (32:13):
And the truth is this, we didn't get here because
Black people are not intelligent, because they can't count, because
they can't be educated. It's racism. So the question becomes,
how do we overcome this racism so that black people
can own banks and acquire capital. I don't have the answer,

(32:41):
but I know what has created the problem, and until
we confront this, I'm not sure that we'll be able
to resolve the issues associated with starting and maintaining black banks.
If mister James, do you have any answer for me
to help me understand how we can require more black
banks and deal with the racism that still exists.

Speaker 28 (33:07):
Thanks again. I do want to acknowledge that in the
last five years, for the first time in American history,
we have seen a convulsion in the United States economy
such as what happened during the pandemic, and actually not
seeing a decline in African American owned institutions. Typically, you

(33:28):
know when you had the Great Depression, or the Great Recession,
you would lose typically around half of the black owned
institutions I would fail because they were under capitalized. In
the last five or six years, there's been more capital
available and so we've actually seen a slight uptick. So
at the beginning of the pandemic, there were only nineteen
black owned banks, and now there's twenty five, and so

(33:48):
that's good news.

Speaker 14 (33:50):
I think it would be.

Speaker 28 (33:53):
Very helpful to again, you know, reduce that community bank
leverage ratio was smaller to a smaller number, to increase
the access for our reciprocal deposits and other forms of liquidity,
so that you can have smaller institutions of all types,
whether they serve urban and rural communities, whether they be

(34:14):
black owned or owned by anyone else where, you can
encourage just encourage more competition and more different types of institutions.
Regulatory reform is also important because if we can evolve
regulatory our regulation regulation, I'm going to have to we
can have more institutions.

Speaker 27 (34:32):
I have to intercede because I have to close with this.
Two things. The first is I think that we can
do things to help all banks, but at some point
we will have to do something help black people.

Speaker 14 (34:45):
We really will.

Speaker 27 (34:47):
We didn't get here because we were unable to help ourselves.
It was because others wouldn't allow us to help ourselves.
And the final thing is are there no women who
can can do what you men? I always pay attention
to who's on these panels, all male panel, but for
this African American, I assume you're African American.

Speaker 14 (35:09):
You look like one to me. I don't know, but uh,
you know.

Speaker 27 (35:13):
But but for the Democrats, we wouldn't have a have
an African American.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
On the Pantlemen gentleman's times.

Speaker 27 (35:19):
A gentleman's time has always expired.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I yell back.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Again, perfect example what happens when you have black representation
in Congress.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
One of the issues that we have.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Been talking about the more than three hundred thousand black
women who've lost their jobs since Donald Trump went back
into the Oval office. And comes woman oppressons demanding answers
from fair chaired. Your own power, she joins us, right
now comes, I'm glad to have you back on the show.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
So what demand are you making of the FED chair?

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Roland always good to be with you. The demand that
I'm making of the chair is that the FED do
its job.

Speaker 29 (35:59):
It has a duel but for now, just speak to
UH one part of that mandate. It's a statutory mandate
and that is UH to you know, maximum full employment.
And you know, given the alarming rates and spike and
unemployment across the board, but for Black women in particular,
who have always been the canaries in the coal mine
when it comes to our economy. The black women represent

(36:22):
twelve percent of the federal workforce. That workforce, you know,
had a you know, a hammer H taken to it.
And so when you consider reduction enforce UH mass firings
and with a focus on those agencies that black women
will dominate Housing and urban Development, Health and Human Services,

(36:45):
us AI, DU, Department of Education. And then you layer
that with the defunding and the dismantling of diversity, equity
and inclusion in the private sector and that shilling effect
and that rollback. Not only do you see a lack
of representation and Black women being forced out of the
private sector, but black women also dominate diversity, equity and

(37:06):
inclusion jobs.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
So this is devastating.

Speaker 29 (37:09):
Fifty one percent of black women are the primary breadwinners
in their family, the primary caregivers, so we'll be devastating,
you know, huge implications for Black women, for the black family,
and for black communities. And so you're talking about three
hundred thousand Black women whose livelihoods and lives have been disrupted.
And if any other group were experiencing something as extreme

(37:33):
as that, they would already be studying it.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
What I'm demanding of the chair in their.

Speaker 29 (37:38):
Statutory mandate for maximum employment and given the six point
seven a rate of unemployment for black women, is for
them to analyze the data, to study it, to come
up with a plan of action.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
And then the second part of it is the other
part of their mandate is their independence.

Speaker 29 (37:56):
And I'm calling on a Chairman Pal to be tens
down and full throated in his defense and support of
Governor Lisa Cook, the first black woman to be in
this role, because in doing that, you affirm the independence
of the FED because her firing is unlawful.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
So why don't you send that to him? And did
you give him a time frame to respond?

Speaker 17 (38:26):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (38:27):
And we'll be following up to see what happens with that.

Speaker 29 (38:30):
I mean, you know, listen rolland we're not just sending
around and waiting for answers, you know, We're gonna keep
applying the pressure here because this is a deep consequence
to Black women, to Black families in Black America, but
again to the economy written large because black women have
always been the canaries in the coal mine.

Speaker 16 (38:46):
So this is a devastating metric of what is to come.

Speaker 29 (38:50):
And again, when you're talking about three hundred thousand families
who've had their livelihoods and lives disrupted, I think for
any other group this would be a five alarm fire.
And so we're gonna keep the pressure Orange Chairman Pal
and the FED to honor that statutory dual mandate of
maximum employment while also affirming their independence and being full

(39:11):
throated in their defense of Governor Lisa Cook, who was
the most recent Black leader and black woman in the
long line of baseless attacks against black leadership in this administration.
This hostile administration is giving obsessed. It is just anti
blackness on steroids.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Everywhere we go. They are looking to uh to to.

Speaker 29 (39:35):
Decimate black wealth, to roll back Black gains, to dilute
the Black voice, to disenfranchise our political power.

Speaker 16 (39:44):
At every turn.

Speaker 29 (39:45):
You know, I was meeting with some allies recently and
I said, you know, we name the attacks on the
immigrant community, we name the attacks on the LGBTQ community,
we name the attacks on women. I'm gonna need you
all to name the anti black racism that is rampant
in this administration and pull up in a meaningful way
to confront it. Yes, you know, we are experiencing the

(40:08):
harm disparately, and it is not indiscriminate. It is very precise,
it is very targeted.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
So any person of.

Speaker 29 (40:18):
Conscience should be linking arms with us and in applying
pressure in all the ways that we.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Are currently.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Questions from my panel, I'll start first with you, Mushtaka, congresswoman.

Speaker 22 (40:35):
Is good to see you.

Speaker 21 (40:35):
We know historically there are a number of actions that
have been put in place, all the way back to
the Black Codes and Jim Crow and the Freedman's bank collapse.
How do we make sure that the investments that we
need are actually there, but also the regulations to make
sure that there's real enforcement in that space.

Speaker 29 (40:57):
Well, you know, if you means specifically to this, I
mean what I'm folks is a little bit of an echo, yall,
So just bear with me here.

Speaker 16 (41:07):
You know, the strategy in this moment it is litigation.

Speaker 29 (41:12):
The harm is acute, and so that can be a
frustrating endeavor because when you're trying to match lawlessness with
the rule of law. But that being said, we have
been successful in slow rolling or blunting a lot of
these unlawful, rogue and racist attacks through the courts.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
It just takes more time.

Speaker 29 (41:31):
I still see outside of litigation legislation as a tool
at our disposal, despite how sobering the landscape is from
a legislating standpoint. But I just keep applying the pressure.
I'm just appealing to, you know, four Republicans of Conscience.
Their majority is very slim, and I'm starting to see
that pressure. You know, I've been invited to a number

(41:52):
of Republican districts to convene town halls because their.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
Own representatives will not meet with them.

Speaker 29 (41:58):
And as people start to feel the effects of this economy,
the impact of these chaotic tariffs, the impact of these
mass layoffs, and are worried about their Medicaid and their
social security. So it's very important we continue to keep
the public aware and informed. And the more informed they are,
the more enraged they are, and the more they're clear

(42:21):
about who are the architects of this harm, and it
is the opposition, and then finally agitation and mobilization. So
I think it's all of those things. This litigation, it's legislation,
its agitation, it's mobilization. Look, this is a dictatorship, and
you can't be a dictator with appeasement.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Hello, somebody.

Speaker 29 (42:41):
You cannot be a dictator by being complicit in silence.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
The only way to beat a dictator is with defiance.

Speaker 29 (42:48):
And so we have to resist, reject, obstruct at every
single turn. And so that's what I continue to do,
and that's what I continue to.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Push to push others to do. This is a five
alarm fire.

Speaker 29 (43:00):
Yes, I'm concerned about everybody, but what this means for
Black America and this moment of anti.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Blackness on steroids.

Speaker 29 (43:08):
This is not about can we weather the next four years, y'all?
This is going to shape the next one hundred years.
This is about harm that we'll be digging out for generation.
So I also want to say the other thing I
remain squarely focused on is reconstruction. You know what, if
we do our job and we rebuild this party and
we get our gabble back to do what you know,

(43:30):
So that's what I'm actively working on now.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Is what does the work of reconstruction look like?

Speaker 29 (43:34):
Because when you have someone running the country who's running
it like one of his many failed bankrupt businesses, they're
going to move fast and break things.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
And it's easy to do that.

Speaker 29 (43:43):
It's a lot harder to rebuild. But we have to
right now begin thinking about what that looks like, what
does that mean and how do we do that?

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Randy, your question.

Speaker 6 (43:57):
So much for being here.

Speaker 30 (43:58):
When we talk about rebuild, I'm thinking about the individual families,
those three hundred and thirteen thousand black women who have
lost their jobs, many of them very powerful, well paying jobs.

Speaker 20 (44:11):
Do you have any practical advice of what they can
do now? How do they start to rebuild their lives?

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Well, first, let me just.

Speaker 29 (44:20):
Say right now I'm focused on how do I I
mitigate the harm while actively looking for ways with which
to ensure that we can recover what we lost.

Speaker 16 (44:32):
It's just so layered. It's in every single way.

Speaker 29 (44:35):
It's no wonder that we're feeling overwhelmed, because that is
their strategy. They also want us to feel that these
things are inevitabilities, but I refuse to accept that. But
it is a layered, compounded assault. When you also consider
the fact that all the gains is someone who let
that fight for student debt cancelation and for creative ways
for income driven repayment, and all those things have been

(44:56):
rolled back.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
So you're talking about black women.

Speaker 29 (44:59):
Fifty percent are the primary breadwinners, uh, the formidable role
they play in there in their families as as caregivers
and the primary breadwinners. Black women, the most educated, carrying
the most dead now having to then repay those uh,
those payments which we've made great progress on against the
backdrop of chaotic tears and unpredictable.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Economy and being laid off.

Speaker 29 (45:22):
So I'm just I'm trying to get at this in
every single way. All what I need Black women to
know is that I see you. I'm centering you in
every single thing that I am do that I am doing,
and that I'm fighting like hell for you, you know,
for for your lives, for uh, for your families.

Speaker 27 (45:42):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
This is just it is devastating.

Speaker 29 (45:43):
It is destabilizing, and we will be digging out, you know,
for for generations.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
That is the reality.

Speaker 29 (45:50):
But I'm trying to do whatever I can in this
moment to buffer and mitigate the harms and to hold
people accountable light the federal Reserve. You know, they have
a statutory mandate. This is why lifting up the work
of Sadie Alexander, the first black woman with a PhD
in economics, and Kreta Scott King and Bard Rustin and others,
why I've been pushing for a federal job guarantee since

(46:10):
I've been in Congress, because that is a part of
their statutory mandate. So now I'm saying, you see this
crisis happening with black women, analyze it in a meaningful way,
come up with a plan that we can hold.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
You accountable to, and let's get to work. Because if
you don't care about if you don't give.

Speaker 29 (46:26):
A damn about black women, then you don't give a
damn about this economy or any working family. Because black
women have always been the canaries in the coal mine.
So this is a this is a very frightening metric
for what this means for what's to come.

Speaker 31 (46:43):
Joe, thank you, congress woman for everything that you do,
And this is of course incredibly important, beyond important, find
the sound alarms, et cetera.

Speaker 18 (46:55):
And I appreciate that the window that you're going through,
among the many things to you demand, as you've said,
is making a direct.

Speaker 9 (47:03):
Appeal to the FED.

Speaker 18 (47:04):
Share what's the best way that folks like us that
are now aware that there is something that's being attempted
to be there's pressure being brought to bear on this
particular issue and this aspect of the issue, which.

Speaker 7 (47:19):
Is both micro and macro.

Speaker 18 (47:21):
You're talking about supporting this black woman that's on the
FED as well as analyzing, based on their statutory mandate,
what's happening as a pertaste's jobs and how this disproportionately
affects black women, et cetera. What's the best way for
us to be part of educating people and particularly are
people on this issue.

Speaker 29 (47:41):
Yeah, I would just ask every person to ask their
elected representatives to join our call to support us in
that pressure. I think the most important thing is is vigilance.
Vigilance and stamina and saturation. We need as many people
as possible applying that pressure and holding the FED accountable

(48:03):
in this way to do their job and also with
the other part of that mandate, to affirm the independence
of the FED. Because not only is the targeting of
Lisa Cook racist, but a consistent and predictable play from
Donald Trump and his obsession with black leadership and black
women in particular.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
But it is it is unlawful, It is racist, and
it is unlawful.

Speaker 29 (48:28):
And so join our join our calls, ask your other
elected leaders and beyond to join our calls in our
demands for Chairman Powell to be full throated in his
defense of Lisa.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Cook and call this what it is.

Speaker 29 (48:45):
It is an unlawful firing. And in doing that he
also affirms the independence of the FED.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
One of the things that again, really since the NAUGA,
I have been very consistent in saying to this audience
that there is a massive effort to defund Black America
and there's a wholesale attack on Black America that Donald
Trump in this administration, Republicans in the House incentive absolutely

(49:19):
don't like black people, don't support black people, want to
strip away voting rights of black people, representation of black people,
jobs of black people, economic gains of black people. We
already see the Supreme Court ruling against ruling against from
the faction in the schools. Tell you right now that

(49:39):
ruling the other day regarding allowing ICE to use racial
characteristics to stop and detain Latinos.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Black people.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Look, look Latinos are going to have to operate like
black folks in South Africa did carr around basically these
passports showing who they are. Listen, if they allow that,
they can allow that to happen to black people, we
can act like we somehow are exempt from this nasty, crazy,

(50:12):
deranged right wing administration and equally complicit Supreme Court.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Well, I completely agree.

Speaker 29 (50:19):
I mean, this is the time for solidarity, and we
have to be intentional, you know, in that way. I
mean again, even if we if Black America and brown
folks will feel the harm the most, the point is
this harm is coming.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
For everyone, and so solidarity is key.

Speaker 29 (50:38):
There was a practical question asked earlier about, you know,
how best to support black women, you know, while we're
doing litigation, legislation, agitation and mobilization.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
I want to really encourage.

Speaker 16 (50:48):
People, you know, organize, you know, to get old school.

Speaker 29 (50:51):
We need to organize our blocks, We need to organize
our neighborhoods. We need to stand up. Mutual aid infrastructure.
I understand it can never meet the gap. It is
not the infrastructure that is big enough to supplant the
work of a federal government or you know, a full
paying job, but we have to take care of one another,

(51:12):
and we're going to.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
Need mutual aid to do that. And so I do
want to encourage folks, you know, to get to know
your neighbors, to.

Speaker 29 (51:19):
Lean into community, because that's that's the only antidote to
this chaos and this uncertainty. And I also add, since
I do serve on the Bipartisan Task Force on AI,
I'm also closely following the impact of AI in the
future of working on Black women in particular because a
twenty one Black women represent maybe twenty one percent of

(51:41):
those workforces that stand to be the most impacted by AI.

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All Right, Colis won of Yana Preshley. Always the pleasure
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Let's talk about how absolutely awful this Trump economy has been.
Some new numbers came out today. The Labor Department released
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Speaker 1 (57:11):
At nearly a million fewer jobs than was initially reported.

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A new analysis of analysis about hiring for the year
ending in March was overstated by about nine.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Hundred and eleven thousand jobs.

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The most significant downward revision on record, the Buerau Labor
Statistics revised the prior to months data, showing employers actually
shared thirteen thousand jobs in May. The loss that marks
the first monthly decline since December twenty twenty.

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By line with this tells us stop it is. This
economy sucks.

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Well guess what.

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We tried to tell folks that he was not going
to be great for the economy, and so his terrorists
are showing us that had a more devastating impact on
the economy even earlier than expected.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
And if people think that all that's just a one
month bump, no we are.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
We got stagflation. We're moving towards a recession. And so
this idiot doesn't care. And I keep seeing all of
these farmers winding and crying now begging for a buyout.
It's like, hmmm, so now y'all want to buy out.
But then y'all were against student loan debt and things
along those lines. I'm sorry, thoughts and prayers.

Speaker 22 (58:26):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 21 (58:27):
You know, well, they kept telling us that the economy
was strong, and I was thinking, where, where where.

Speaker 22 (58:32):
Is economy strong?

Speaker 21 (58:33):
Because you miss almost a million jobs that still flex
like you ball and then you know, they show up
like they actually show it up in a rented Bentley
and have an EBT card in the glove compartment, so
you ain't fooling nobody.

Speaker 22 (58:47):
They continue to try and manipulate the numbers, they continue.

Speaker 21 (58:50):
To try and play games with us, and folks just
kind of make sure that they're continuing to speak out
because I ain't never seen nobody lose that many jobs before.

Speaker 22 (58:58):
If you lose that many jobs, if I lose one job,
my mom is.

Speaker 21 (59:01):
Gonna be knocking on my front door talking about you
need to find out where their job is at. So
we just got to stop allowing these games to be played.
We got to also understand that, you know, when they're
hurting people, they're actually changing dynamics, as others have shared.

Speaker 22 (59:17):
You know, for generation upon generation. One we got to
call it out.

Speaker 21 (59:21):
Two, we got to make sure that we're also investing
in our communities because we know that they're not going
to do it.

Speaker 22 (59:28):
And three, it is tied to your vote once again.

Speaker 21 (59:31):
All last year we talked about your vote, your vote,
your vote, how important it was for the economy, for
a number of other things, and I don't know if
people took us serious or not.

Speaker 22 (59:41):
But now you're seeing how it plays out.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Oh yeah, Randy, I mean I'm seeing more and more
of these video, these mag of people who just.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Crying and complaining and oh my god, what's going on?
Is kind of like you voted for this.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
You in fact, one California town, sixty four percent of
this town vote for Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Now they're crying because their rural hospital is shut down.

Speaker 7 (01:00:08):
We told you.

Speaker 20 (01:00:12):
They thought they were immune, They thought that they had
the complexion for the protection.

Speaker 6 (01:00:17):
But not with this economy.

Speaker 20 (01:00:19):
You think about it, twenty two thousand jobs new jobs
last month, which is abysmal. Typically you want to see
about one hundred thousand to keep up with the population.

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
But this man and his policies is running the economy.
You now have industries that.

Speaker 20 (01:00:33):
Are being greatly affected by terrists. You also have people
who no longer are coming to visit America. Nobody's trying
to come from another country here, and so our tourism
that is down, So hospitality industries are affected. You also
have where we have lost our workforce because you know, capitalism,
you need a workforce that you don't have to pay

(01:00:54):
as much.

Speaker 9 (01:00:54):
For it to run.

Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
People don't want to say that that will take these
low wage jobs.

Speaker 20 (01:00:58):
So that's why these farmers are also struggling because they
chased off the workforce. They either sent them out or
sent them into hiding. And so his policies have real effects.
And these policies are what they voted for. But they
thought that they would be protected, that their whiteness was
going to protect them for.

Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
These terrible policies that he said he was going to do.

Speaker 20 (01:01:18):
But they were so ignorant and they're so enamored by
that man that it seems like they don't listen. But
you one thing, their pockets are going to make them listen.
They're being hungry is gonna make them listen. Not having
a place to eat is gonna make them to live.
It's gonna make them listen. But it's having a real impact.

Speaker 6 (01:01:34):
This economy sucks and it's no other way to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Say, Joe, I'm looking at this right here. This came
in today.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Three rural hospitals in Virginia are shutting down. Augusta Health
said that it's a response to the One Big Beautiful
Bill Act.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
And the resulting realities for healthcare.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Delivery, and so guess what a lot of those and
mago wave flagging folks in rural Virginia, Hello, say goodbye
to your hospital all because of Donald Trump and his policies.

Speaker 18 (01:02:11):
Say goodbye to your hospital, and then say hello to
increased hospital expenses. To increase medical care expenses for all
of us, even those of us that are insure, people
that are in emergency here that can't get regular primary care,
they're going to show up somewhere that's going to be

(01:02:32):
quote cover, but ultimately it has to be paid for.
And so that's going to continue a vicious, terrible cycle.
We're going to become sicker, right unless people are going
to go to the hospital. By the time they go
to the hospital, it's going to cost more and be
more on an emergency basis, and it's going to continue
this cycle that's.

Speaker 7 (01:02:49):
Going to cost more money for all of us.

Speaker 9 (01:02:52):
Right, healthcare is not going to go down.

Speaker 6 (01:02:55):
It's not going to be more expensive.

Speaker 18 (01:02:56):
You're not going to have better outcomes when people in
rural areas can't get care. When there's more crowded hospitals
in other areas, or because there's less hospitals in a
rural or some other area, you're going to have more
people seeking care. You're going to have a whole lot
of chaos that's going to result, and it's going to continue,

(01:03:17):
and it's going to be very very hard to unwine.
It's very hard because eventually what will happen is what's
starting to happen. You see, with the lots of jobs
that the economy is contracting. The economy is contracting, we
won't be able to turn this around and bring money
back to bear that we have lost because the economy
is contracted, people aren't shopping, people aren't buying, etc. Etc.

Speaker 9 (01:03:40):
Etc.

Speaker 18 (01:03:41):
So it's going to continue to be this cycle that's
going to continue to affect those are the least of us,
and those of us that thought we had our thing
on the strength, those of us that thought that we
were doing well and that Trump was our guy, are
going to suffer a very very severe situation and there's
gonna be no sympathy for us coming related to it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Again, we told all these people that's going to happen
and ran it to your point. They thought it was
going to be somebody else. They thought, oh, we're going.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
To own the Libs.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
And it's like you're an idiot, because it's going to
impact you. The grocery prices, the food prices. We saw
this before the last time he screwed farmers, and twenty
five billion in American tax payer money had to build
them out. So they were shocked it happened again. It's

(01:04:40):
just called a sequel. This was Hollywood.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
Well, their racism makes them blind to logic. Their absolute
racism makes them blind.

Speaker 20 (01:04:50):
To logic, and so all they focus on is what
he's going to do against everyone else. And so they
got excited when he talked about getting the illegals.

Speaker 9 (01:04:59):
Out of here.

Speaker 20 (01:05:00):
They got excited when he went on an attack against
DEI and affirmative action and you know, anything woke as
he called it. They got excited, and they thought that
they were part of the chosen of the chosen people.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
That this boy, who was this guy, this.

Speaker 20 (01:05:20):
Orange person who was born as a millionaire got a
million dollar loan from his dad to bail him out
on a few occasions, really has some relation to them,
to them, you know, they're Midwest or South or farmer values,
and he doesn't he doesn't care about them.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
But they do not get that.

Speaker 6 (01:05:38):
The racism, I'm telling you makes people delusional. It's an
absolute sickness.

Speaker 20 (01:05:43):
That completely melts any ability to think logically because he's
told them what he was going to do. Project twenty
twenty five said he was what he was going to do, but.

Speaker 6 (01:05:54):
They did not think it would affect them because of racism.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
And what gets me going to stop? But it's just
a blatant lyne Donald on the radio show this morning
saying we have no inflation, Pressures are down on just
about everything, Pressures are waved down on energy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Do what you're lying? He's literally lying in these matter
It is they just go lower, you know what gives
you right.

Speaker 21 (01:06:21):
Well, that's also the responsibility of the press, right because
they continue to allow him to share things that aren't true.
They don't ask the probing questions, they don't make sure
that there's a follow up afterwards to bring the facts forward.
And then we also have a responsibility. When I say we,
I mean the American public, because if farmers are catching

(01:06:42):
all of this hell, then they need to make sure
that they are continuing to speak out against policies that
are not working for them. For the folks who work
in the healthcare arena, they have to pull forward not
just the statistics that people are getting sick and who
are dying, but also the folks who are now going
into bankruptcy because they can't afford it, who are going
into the grocery store.

Speaker 22 (01:07:01):
You should take your phone and you should record all
those prices that.

Speaker 21 (01:07:04):
Are there when you walk outside of that supermarket with
two bags in your hand and it cost over one
hundred dollars.

Speaker 22 (01:07:10):
So we've got a double edged sword that has to
be utilized in this moment.

Speaker 21 (01:07:16):
We've got to make sure that folks who have a
responsibility for making sure the truth is being told on
the reporting side of the equation. But we also have
to continue to speak out against these failed policies and
make sure that we are also not just speaking out, but.

Speaker 22 (01:07:29):
Once again, we're going to say it over and over
and over again.

Speaker 21 (01:07:33):
Give more deeper consideration into your vote and vote based
upon what's going to make your life better and not
just because of some racial issues or misogynistic issues. Start
being more intelligent about how you utilis your hope.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Folks could go to break we come back.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
How why keep telling y'all white people are scared to
death of not enough white people. Waitah showed this conversation
on the Fox News. But you want to see white
fertility fragility, I got it for you. Courtesy of Charlie
Kirk and law ingram Boy, You're gonna crack up, folks.

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Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
I talked about this about book White Fear have the
Brownie of Americas making white folks lose their minds about
white Americans, especially white conservatives, freaking out because they stop screwing,
they stop having kids, and so elon muff he's always
talking about declining white birth rates. And see they always

(01:10:09):
talk about women, but they really mean white women. When
they say birth rates, they really mean white birth rates,
not Black, not Latino, not Asian, white birth rates. So
white nationalist Charlie Kirk was on the white nationalist Fox
News Network talking to white nationalists host Laura Ingram, and

(01:10:30):
this was their discussion about fertility rates.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Y'all gonna get a good kick out of this.

Speaker 24 (01:10:36):
What is going on with women and not wanting to
prioritize family.

Speaker 34 (01:10:44):
Yeah, this is a pattern that I've seen time and
time in these college campuses where young men are ordering
their life correctly. They want to first and foremost have children,
get married, and then have a nice job or to
be able to travel. If you look deeper into this data,
it's completely consistent with other data we've seen in the.

Speaker 7 (01:11:01):
Last couple of years.

Speaker 34 (01:11:03):
Young women they don't value having children, and this is
one of the reasons why we are seeing a fertility
collapse in the West. We're seeing less and less young
people get married. We're seeing more and more people go
into their thirties to have children. Now, mind you, this
is starting to change. The last eighteen months especially, we
are seeing a little bit of a turning of the corner,
if you will, as the country is starting to get
more into traditionalism and young people are starting to go

(01:11:25):
back to church. But if you play out the liberal worldview,
the Kamala Harris worldview to its furthest possible logical point,
you have a country with literally no future. When you
play out the logical endpoint of President Trump's agenda of
where young men voted for him, you have one of
lots of children increasing communities, and you also don't have
a need then for mass immigration and this all kind

(01:11:47):
of ties together. Trump voters, young men they want family,
children and legacy. Young women who voted for Kamala Harris
they want careerism, consumerism, and lonliness. That is a dramatic
divide that is going to play out in our politics
for the years to come.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Okay, I just need y'all to understand what you've just
heard there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Okay, first of all, you got Laura Ingram talking about
old women and families, and you got Charlie Kirk talking
about how these women don't want to get married. He's
talking to one of those white women.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Ingram ain't never been married.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Probably nobody wants to marry her Lass, but she never
been married. Now she later adopted three kids, but she
never been married. So here's Charlie Kirk complaining talking about women,
really white women and working.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
And what I'm trying to say is, Kamala Harris, how
about Laura Ingram. You're talking to one of those white women.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
And I need y'all to understand whenever you hear them
say women, oh oh, declining birth rates.

Speaker 7 (01:12:54):
Oh y'all, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Telling you they're talking about white people. And what do
you say? Whoa you know, if we tie turns and
then we won't need immigration. What are they saying?

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
White people, y'all, That's what all this is about. It's
about white people.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
They are angry.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
They are upset that white people are not having children.
They're upset that white people are not having babies, and
so they're trying to blame everything. Control Room.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Just send y'all a graphic, want you to pull that up.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Elon Musk apartheid, South Africa, apart tip. Elon Musk is
always tweeting about fertility rates. He is infatuated. That's why
he's had like twelve, thirteen, fourteen kids. I think he's
got more kids than Nick Cannon. But that's what this
is all about. So I need y'all to understand what
these white folks are so focused on. They cannot handle

(01:13:56):
the fact that America is going to be a nation
that have a majority of you of color. They cannot
handle it. They are scared to death, the Charlie Kirks
of the world. In the Fox News laur Ingram, they're
trying to say that white people, Hey, we need y'all
havings as much sex as possible. And so when you
hear him say, oh, well, these you know these men
they want to go to college and they want to
travel and get.

Speaker 7 (01:14:15):
A good job.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
No, what they really are saying, and this is what
the Charlie Kirks the work can't handle.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
And this to be let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
I mean, what white woman wants to get with Charlie Kirk, seriously, seriously.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
What white woman wants to get with him? So what
they're mad about? They're mad? I need y'all to really understand.
Speaking Mike Johnson's the same way.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
They believe that the decline of America began with the
civil rights movement and the women rights movement. They believe
that no fault divorce. These white men, Charlie Kirk, Mike
Johnson and a lot of his conservatives, they want white
women to shut up, lay down, get through, kick out

(01:15:02):
a whole bunch of babies, stay in the kitchen, cook clean,
do that.

Speaker 7 (01:15:07):
That's what they want.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
And they don't want to use the right language, Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
It's clear as day what they're trying to do. They
do not want to have that real discussion. This is
about whiteness, Joe. It's about white people having babies, white
people getting married. Because they are afraid of losing power.

Speaker 6 (01:15:29):
And so when they say women, yeah, they're talking about
white women.

Speaker 9 (01:15:32):
And just like when they say future, they're.

Speaker 7 (01:15:35):
Talking about white future. I think it's interesting that Laura
Ingram asked him what.

Speaker 18 (01:15:42):
Was going on as Charlie Kirk, what was going on
with white women like or with women, which was white women.
But yeah, they're getting ready to be outnumbered. And listen,
if you don't have enough folk, you are just where
you are. And the fact of the matter is there,
We're just going to continue on to this thing, and
it's going to burst because the fact of the matter

(01:16:05):
is you're going to be outnumbered. That that is going
to happen, just like you are outnumbered in the rest
of the world. That will continue to be the case.
And the more you try to subjugate people that are
going to become a majority, that's just going to create
pressure intension that's going to make this thing blow up.
The other part is, you know, you go back to
Obama being elected, and you go back to kam La

(01:16:26):
Herr's being elected and things like this, despite all of
this racial pressure.

Speaker 7 (01:16:30):
People or color are still getting elected. And it's a
reminder that.

Speaker 18 (01:16:34):
There's a whole lot of people out here that don't
necessarily accept that we always have to have white men
in the positions of authority. Once people see something differently
see something different, and see different potential, they'll demand something different.
And they're scared of all of that. All of that
scares them crept list because they know that things are changing.

(01:16:56):
And that's the good news here. We have to continue
to facilitate with our vote, with our involvement, with our understanding,
with us speaking out, with action following related to the
future that we're all contemplating. But they're not doing what
they're doing because things aren't changing. They're doing what they're
doing because things are. They're trying to turn back the clock,

(01:17:19):
but they're outnumbered. They're continually to be outnumbered, and that
is not going to change. And to your point, yet
they don't know quite how to deal with it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Ready, when they say make America great again, they really
mean make America white again. They really mean make America
when white women stayed in the house with housewives and
with birthing babies and greeted their white men when they
came home with an apron on.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
That's what they want. See. They never want to say that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
So like old women, And how the hell you gonna
see here and try to blame Kamala Harris because white
women don't want to sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
With you, Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 6 (01:18:02):
Right now, that is not Harris's fault that he is
not attractive to women. You know, it's so funny.

Speaker 20 (01:18:08):
They absolutely are terrified at the browning of America.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
One.

Speaker 6 (01:18:12):
I hate to tell them this, but it's too late.
That bus has already left the station.

Speaker 20 (01:18:18):
It's interesting, you know, lord Ingram reminds me very much
of those white women doing the election who voted against themselves,
because if Charlie Kirk had his way, she wouldn't be
the one asking him that question. She would be at
home with a bunch of babies, with a husband who
was paying her no attention, and just to be happy
and satisfied. Because the reason why white women stop having

(01:18:40):
babies is one they have a choice now because they have.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
Birth control, which is why they're trying to regulate that.
They also have career options and going to school.

Speaker 20 (01:18:49):
So it wasn't like they were doing it because having
these babies because they were happy and when they had
a choice not to, because they had fathers like Elon
Musk and Donald Trump, who are not raising the children,
who are not staying with the women who have these children,
who have been caught cheating on the mothers of the
people who have their children, And so they decided to

(01:19:11):
make different choices, right you know, this is where it's
all falling apart. They're making a different choice because yes,
they want white women to be stay at home and
be pregnant and stop this browning of America.

Speaker 6 (01:19:24):
Because the numbers are what the numbers are, and they're
scared about what's happening in the United States.

Speaker 20 (01:19:31):
If they looked at the world, it's been over for
them in the world. So they just need to grin
and bury.

Speaker 16 (01:19:37):
But right now, for them to just have this last ditch.

Speaker 20 (01:19:39):
Effort of trying to get people to have a whole
bunch of babies is going to fall on their faces.
And Lord Ingram should be ashamed of herself, Lord and
all the women like her who voted against their own
interests because they voted for a party who wants to
completely make them lose rights over their own bodies just
so they can use them as breeders.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Well, I mean, tell me about want law Ingham a glass.
I mean, let's just be real clear Okay, all right,
so you know, like whatever, so.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
But mustaphas so check this out.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
See Elon Musk is always tweeting about, uh, these stats,
these these birth stats, and so he put out this
graphic here the state of global fertility fertility rate by
country in twenty twenty three births per woman per woman.
So if you look at this this graphic right here,
So here's the deal. So below one point oh is red,

(01:20:38):
So there are very few places in red.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
You see right there. Okay, now you see the pink
that's one point oh to one point nine. You know
what that is.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
That's Western that's Europe, that's the West, that's the United States.
You see, that's a lot of South America countries. But
here's the piece. Look at that blue, look at that
powder blue, look at that cobalt blue, and look at

(01:21:10):
that dark blue.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
What do you see? Africa? Africa?

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Africa Africa, And that right there is what is scaring
them to death. The reason they are now complaining, Mustafa
about immigration in Europe because it's black immigrants. And now
they're complaining. I'm like, wait a minute, y'all, comonize all
them countries. Now you're mad, they're coming back at you,

(01:21:39):
and so that's what they're angry about. They do not
want to see black and brown immigrants. They want whiteness.
And I'm sorry, I keep telling people, excuse me that
white people in America stop screwing. Excuse me that the
French and the Germans, and the Brits and the Irish
and the Italians, they all all stop screwing and having kids.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Hey, what's the song it ain't my fault? What time
is it?

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
It ain't my fault, y'all stop screwing, y'all. Y'all can't
put that one on black people. You cannot put that
one on Latino people.

Speaker 14 (01:22:14):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
So I'm like, hey, guess what y'all want to get
busy dries. You might, But that's what this is all about.
What people need to understand.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
The attacks in this country we're seeing is because white
people are fraid to death of not having enough white
people to replace them.

Speaker 21 (01:22:36):
Well, let's be clear, we are the original people of
this planet, right and everything springs forth from us, and
we understand the importance of family, of children, of the
roots that run deep where we come from. So we
haven't lost our traditional values there. When we move over
to what's going on here in this country. You know,

(01:22:58):
there's some interesting dynamic with these folks. So you always
have these wealthy people who want to go on TV
and talk about what somebody else isn't doing, and they
fail to realize or they just want this disinformation. They
don't want to have an honest conversation about why young
women don't want to.

Speaker 22 (01:23:13):
Have babies right or why they want to put it off.
So one of the parts is it's not that they
don't value.

Speaker 21 (01:23:19):
It is that they don't want to be broke, and
your policies actually make people be broke. I know that
that's not grammatically correct, but I almost say it the
way that it is because I'm country. They also don't
want to be barefoot no more. They don't want to
sit around and just be babysitting. They want to make
sure that they have the opportunity for the fullness of
what life is supposed to bring forward. So you who

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are creating those policies, you have a responsibility to do better.
If your policies weren't trash, and they results from them
weren't the types of results that actually hold people down,
then maybe you could convince younger women that it's okay
to have babies, because we're going to make sure there's
a true safety net for you, to make sure that

(01:24:00):
if you take time off to have children, that we're
going to support that all the things that are necessary. So, yes,
it is their fear of the browning of America, but
it is also because their policies are trash.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Yeah, I'm like, all right, man, y'all can sit here
and keep complaining this. So, I mean, I'm just it's
just it just cracks me up when I see them whining,
complaining to women.

Speaker 17 (01:24:26):
Remember, they don't want to kids, and they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Want to sleep with us, and I mean, they just
want to work and they just want to have a
life for themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
But your policies are anti women, Your policies are anti children,
Your policies are anti hell. Your policies are anti education.
And so what the hell do you think is gonna happen?
All right, folks, gotta go to break. We'll be right
back more, rolling back and unfiltered right here in the
Black stud Network.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Back in a moment.

Speaker 13 (01:24:53):
This week on the other side of change.

Speaker 24 (01:24:55):
You see, it has been ravaged and taken over by tanks.

Speaker 23 (01:24:59):
So police officers over the last two weeks and it's
only starting there. Trumps and Mounts, and he also has
plans to bring this to Chicago, Baltimore, and New York City.

Speaker 7 (01:25:09):

Speaker 24 (01:25:11):
This is on the other side of change, only on
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Speaker 15 (01:25:19):
Next on the Black Table with me Greg Carr, immigrants
lured off Texas streets and shipped to places like Martha's
Vinue and Washington, DC.

Speaker 14 (01:25:30):

Speaker 7 (01:25:33):

Speaker 4 (01:25:34):
You're so sympathetic to black people, you take them.

Speaker 15 (01:25:37):
Sixty years ago, they called it the reverse Freedom riots.

Speaker 14 (01:25:52):
So what's next. That's next on the Black Table, a
conversation with.

Speaker 15 (01:25:56):
Doctor Gerald Horn about this issue of the reverse freedom
right right here on the Black Star Network.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Hey, what's up, y'all. I'm Devon's Franks.

Speaker 35 (01:26:07):
I'm doctor Robin b pharmacist and fitness coach, and you're
watching Roland Martin unfiltered, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
A lot of black preachers out there who are speaking
truth to power in terms of what's happening with his
white nationalists in the Oval Office.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
One of them is the pastor Abasinian Baptist Church. I
came across.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
A clip of this sermon by doctor Kevin Johnson, and
I said, you know what we need to show a
little bit more so, he says, and like a ti
is regarding the twice impeach criminally convicted fellow and in
chief Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
Check it out.

Speaker 36 (01:26:53):
There are times, I mean real times, when I've even
asked God the question have you forgotten about us? Over
these past eight months, there have been moments when I've.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
Questioned and said, God, where are you in all of this?

Speaker 36 (01:27:16):
In fact, if I'm really honest with you today, since
January of two thousand and twenty five, there have been
times when I.

Speaker 14 (01:27:25):
Feel like we're on this journey.

Speaker 7 (01:27:28):
All by ourselves.

Speaker 36 (01:27:31):
We can't seem to find our Jewish brothers and sisters
to support us. We can't seem to find our Hispanic
brothers to support us.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
And even though we warned and we told people what was.

Speaker 37 (01:27:46):
In Project twenty twenty five, nobody seems to have listened
to us. Every time we turn around, this president is
doing all he can to hurt us, to damage us,
to intimidate us, to frustrate us, to upset us, to

(01:28:08):
irritate us, to aggravate us, to anger.

Speaker 36 (01:28:12):
Us, to discourage us, to damp in us, to depress us,
to dishearten us.

Speaker 7 (01:28:18):
To terrify us, to threaten us.

Speaker 36 (01:28:22):
To marginalize us, to exclude us, to diminish us, to
silence us.

Speaker 14 (01:28:28):
To destroy us.

Speaker 7 (01:28:30):
And I want you to know he's even.

Speaker 36 (01:28:32):
Trying to erase us, beloved, when you looked at what's
taking place in America, and when you look at how
these ICE agents.

Speaker 14 (01:28:41):
Are coming in.

Speaker 36 (01:28:42):
They couldn't wear a COVID mask, but yet they'll wear
a mask when.

Speaker 17 (01:28:46):
They come into our community.

Speaker 36 (01:28:49):
They're invading our cities and invading our neighborhoods. Yes, there
is a sense of this systematically dismantling the very workforce.

Speaker 14 (01:29:00):
But lovely, when you here that.

Speaker 36 (01:29:02):
They are federal workers who are losing their jobs, don't
you know that they have been black families who have
sent their children to school and going on. They get
a degree, all on the federal government's back. That's the
least they could do, because.

Speaker 14 (01:29:16):
We help build this country.

Speaker 36 (01:29:18):
When you look at how they're deploying of federal troops
in the cities and dismanchlingly every DEI program, then blaming
us for the planes that crash, saying that it's DEI.
When when you look at the fact that they are
granted asylum to South Africans while banning refugees who are

(01:29:38):
black and brown, And when you look at the fact
that they are trying to tell the Smithsonian to stop
teaching about how bad slavery was.

Speaker 7 (01:29:49):
Yes, it was bad.

Speaker 36 (01:29:50):
And guess what, you can't erase all the horror, all
the pain, all the suffering that this country has caused,
the generations and generations of black people in this country.

Speaker 7 (01:30:07):
And I'm sharing this with you today.

Speaker 36 (01:30:10):
It's because this past week had hit a balling points
when he was there in the over Office and talking
about sending a federal troops into cities, and he had
the audacity to sing that our young people were born
criminals beloved. The only criminal I know is the one

(01:30:34):
who has thirty four felonis. The only criminal I know
is the one who tried to overturn the election. The
only criminal I know who is incited a resident insurrection
on January sixth. The only criminal I know is the
one who's stole classified documents and to kid him at

(01:30:55):
his house.

Speaker 17 (01:30:55):
And Margot Logo.

Speaker 36 (01:30:57):
The only person I know who's a criminal, the one
who paid hush money to cover up an affair, who
is allowing Israel to kill babies and commit genocide and gods,
that's the person I know. And when you look at
what just came out yesterday, has it relates to unemployment?

(01:31:19):
Do you know that under this president that we now
have more unemployed people than we do have people trying to.

Speaker 28 (01:31:28):
Get a job.

Speaker 37 (01:31:31):
This is not taking America forwards, but this is taking
America backwards.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
That works, That's fine, all right, folks, We're back.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
As I said, I'm here in Montgomery, Alabama at the
Equal Justice Initiative at their Legacy Museum annex. And so
we've been meeting here last couple of days with black
folks having some great conversation. Latasha Brown, co founder Black
Voters Matter.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
I was just there playing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
Portions of sermon from Pastor Abersenian Baptist Church in Harlem.
He's been using the public calling out Donald Trump. And
earlier I had a Congresswoman Young, a press Leon Congresswoman,
I did Clark and all talking about just this moment
we're in and we've been talking about this, that people
need to understand that there is a massive attack on

(01:32:46):
every black institution. And look, I love the dance, you
love to sing, but a lot of our focus so
fixated with boots on the ground, not realizing they trying
to put boots on our necks.

Speaker 17 (01:33:00):
I think this is a moment for us to really realize.

Speaker 38 (01:33:02):
I mean, if people really just plug in everything, everything
is actually attacking our communities right now. If you look
at just the headlines of the last week, around three
hundred thousand women, black women.

Speaker 17 (01:33:13):
Losing their jobs, their federal jobs. Why is that important?

Speaker 29 (01:33:16):
Right?

Speaker 17 (01:33:17):
And when you're looking at our unemployment rate being double.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
What the national rate, why is that approaching pandemic levels?

Speaker 17 (01:33:23):
Pandemic levels?

Speaker 38 (01:33:24):
And what's interesting is black women are like the canary
in the in the coal mine that ultimately it is
indicative that there's a major major problem going on in
the labor market. Black women actually participate in the labor market.
How did any other women? So when you're looking at
what's going on with black women, that is telling us
what's happening going to happen, is happening already in our

(01:33:45):
communities and then how we're gonna respond to that. So
the bottom line is what we're seeing happen. And then
we got to think about it. He went DC, like,
let's think about who's in DC. Let's think about the
mayor and leadership of Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
Let's look at Caen Baths.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
Then that's the real bowser now Chicago, Brandon Johnson. That's right,
and it's just going on a list of Okay, give
me a black maylist who hit That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
And so we got to really.

Speaker 17 (01:34:11):
Realize what this moment is.

Speaker 38 (01:34:12):
We can't be so disconnected to not understand that not
only are the policy under the attack, but our bodies,
our physical health, we're under attack. When you look at
this bill and how these cuts in Medicaid are going
to impact us, right, when you look at how this
attack on these cities, there's a reason why black elected officials, right,
these cities that are led by black Part of it

(01:34:33):
is pushing the boundaries to see how far I can go.

Speaker 17 (01:34:36):
And I also want to think around.

Speaker 38 (01:34:37):
You know, as we're talking about these elections, you know
people I'll talk to folks rolling there was like, well, why, well,
elections don't matter elections always matter, and see the elections matters.

Speaker 7 (01:34:48):
Here's what kills me.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
And I see this all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
You are not gonna find white folks saying, hey, y'all,
that vote thing don't do nothing for us. They ain't
saying that. Now it's somebody folks don't vote. But it's
amazing how a lot of us are listening to people
who claim to be doctors and activists or in who
concerned about the community, who are literally telling us that

(01:35:13):
stuff don't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
That change.

Speaker 38 (01:35:15):
That's right, And the truth of the matter is it's insationalized.
And that's say that's just not true. Every single aspect
of our lives is impacted by public policy. So the
truth of the matter is there's nothing from how much
money you made to where you live, where you can
get a mortgage, all of those things are set by
public policy and who are elected officials their policy. Because
now let me say this, I understand people was frustration

(01:35:36):
right when we're out in the communities. Yes, we are
frustrated because we know that there's more that we deserve
that we should be getting right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
And you want to and you want to see the results,
and you are results of your votes.

Speaker 38 (01:35:45):
But We also need to understand that sometimes we also
have to use this as a harm reduction strategy, that
when people are coming for your community, you have to
use every single tool available to stop them. You also
in people you got. You can't let folks attack your
community and there's no consequences. And voting in itself is
not enough, but it is certainly a consequence. I think

(01:36:06):
what we need to also think about is this next
year's election is going to be critical, not just for
the place of Okay, who're going to get in an office.

Speaker 17 (01:36:14):
That's important, but it has to be a vote of resistance.

Speaker 38 (01:36:18):
We have to get out in massive numbers and let
folks know everybody that we're coming for you. If you
come for us, we're using every single tool available for
available to us to push back and.

Speaker 17 (01:36:30):
Hold folks accountable. We are willing to do anything to
protect me.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
In mind, the marker that I have been using, the
target goal I've been using is seventy percent. I'm saying, folks,
if the goal should be at a minimum, voting at
seventy percent of our capacity.

Speaker 1 (01:36:46):
And so when you just do simple math, if there
are one.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
Hundred thousand eligible black voters and they're registered. If we
vote at forty percent, that's forty thousand people voting. We
vote at seventy percent, said that seventy thousand, it's elections
all across the country where thirty thousand votes changes the
entire election.

Speaker 38 (01:37:09):
With our question, and I want people to think about
what's really critical too that we don't talk a lot
about is local elections or we need to be grabbing
up every local election, particularly in.

Speaker 17 (01:37:18):
Communities where we have sizeable numbers for mayor where we.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
Are fifty five sixty sixty five percent of the vote. Absolutely,
we need to be focusing on that.

Speaker 38 (01:37:28):
We don't need to just get caught up around the
hype around presidential election. That it's in these lower elections
and many many circumstances, what's coming down the pipeline, our
first line of defense is going to be able to
have folks who are in position locally to protect us
and to be able to connect us with resources.

Speaker 17 (01:37:46):
So it's really important, folks.

Speaker 38 (01:37:47):
I need folks to understand this ain't about participation. Part
of it, I also think is our fault. Part of
it has been our fault of really focusing on to participate.

Speaker 17 (01:37:56):
You need to participate because folks died for you, and
all of that is true.

Speaker 38 (01:37:59):
But this is it's really about power, and we have
to recognize this is about power. When folks coming for you,
you got to use every single tool available to you
to push back and to move forward to get power.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
We talked about twenty six, but the reality is what
I keep saying. Listen, you got a major election in
New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
You've got a googleatorial election in New Jersey comes with
mikeel Cheryl need to get off your ass and do
more talk to black people. You've got a googleatorial but
also a legislative election in Virginia that if Democrats win
the Virginia House, if in beating Maga black lieutenant governor
wins some seers who is down with Trump one hundred percent,

(01:38:38):
If they win, if they maintained the House, then Don Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Is still Speaker of the House. If they control the Senate,
Louise Lucas she controls the.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Money, so you literally are And what that then happens
is they now because they've already passed it this year,
they now can now pass it again to restore voting rights.
All full folks, fuming incarcerated, are putting on a ballot
that no longer requires the governor signing each one.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
So you can have a number of people in Virginia
get their right to vote.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
Back if Democrats win the House, Senate, and governess.

Speaker 17 (01:39:12):
Now that's right.

Speaker 38 (01:39:13):
This ain't time for people coming up with half ideas,
who have not put boots on the ground, who have
not done the work, who have not organized.

Speaker 17 (01:39:20):
Communities, because I know the difference.

Speaker 38 (01:39:21):
I've gone in the courtroom where a DA that was
put in by the people was very different than the
outcome of a.

Speaker 17 (01:39:27):
DA that was not responsible.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
Well, and in Virginia you got a black guy, Jay
Jones running for Attorney General against the crazy derange Maga.
So now that's the chief law enforcement office of Virginia.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Will be a brother.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
See so it's like folk, understand it is chess, but
you got so you would say, hold up, Virginia. You
would have a black guy the attorney general, come on,
a black guy the speaker of the House, a black
woman controlling all the money in the Senate.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
Oh what the hell?

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
So this and that that's not a d in our thing.
But the reality is they are Democrats. But that's black
power controlling.

Speaker 38 (01:40:06):
Position absolutely and controlling resources and plecting us the other pieces.
We got to really realize do we not see that
there is an agenda to cut us off from resources?

Speaker 17 (01:40:17):
Do we not see vulnerable we are?

Speaker 14 (01:40:19):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
The Republicans ran out the black guy who was the
superintendent of the Legitia Military Institute. Then Trump has been
going after the black guy who is the president of
George Mason and he even resistant to hell, no one,
I'm not resigning and I'm not apologizing. So that's the
stuff that people need to understand what's going on.

Speaker 17 (01:40:40):
They need to understand what's going on.

Speaker 38 (01:40:42):
This is a moment that you cannot leave any power
on the table. This is the moment we got to
be organized and we.

Speaker 17 (01:40:47):
Need to connect ourselves. Folks need to be registered in
the vote. I don't care what your position on it.
At this moment, you need to recognize that we are
in a fight that we've got to.

Speaker 38 (01:40:55):
Stop that ascension of what we're seeing is a consolidation
of power.

Speaker 17 (01:40:59):
And the way you stop that, you have to slow
that down.

Speaker 38 (01:41:01):
By disrupting and voting is a vehicle to also disrupt
when folks are actually trying to take and consolidate all the.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
Power it's also.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
Really and I've just been trying to get our folks
to just to really fully embrace this that when you
say when it is a top down, massive attack on
everything blacking. So for the people who get so caught
up in oh man, y'all trying to be democratic shields,

(01:41:32):
this is very simple. They want to get rid of
the federal DBA program, thirty seven billion dollar program. Last
year black business got ten billion dollars, a record. You know,
there's less than two percent, it's still a record. They
want to get rid of the program, right. They want
to get their attacking. They are literally using the power
of the federal government to tell private companies, oh, I'm
not going to prove your acquisition unless you get rid

(01:41:55):
of your YID. They did it with them out, they
did it with multiple comp's bringing a.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Card to FCC.

Speaker 2 (01:42:01):
They're using the power of the sec the Federal Trade Commission.
Supreme Court there suffirm Trump being able to fire the
Federal Trade Commission member, and so people have to recognize
that they're trying to fire the black woman on the
Federal Reserve, Lisa Cook.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
All these things are happening.

Speaker 38 (01:42:18):
It's not even the chair eyeing there around it is,
she's not even the chair, So why out of all
the governors you have.

Speaker 17 (01:42:25):
We have to realize that there is a strong message
to stop black building.

Speaker 38 (01:42:29):
There is a strong message to actually punish anything and
strip away anything that actually helps black folks advance or
get access to resources. And so if that's going to
be the case, our response can't just be sent at home,
because if we're sitting at home, that means we're giving
them permission. We're saying, oh, it's okay, I don't care
about that. Part of the voter suppression and what we're
seeing right now is not because we weren't participated. It

(01:42:53):
is a response to black folks actually moving forward and
gaining some policy wining. So we gotta really think about
this moment right now. This moment is not the set back.
This got to be the setup moment.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
This is the moment that we got to come out
song last point here. This generation and this is I
think whether Robert uster Road, this generation has never had
to encounter what I am calling Jim Crow two point zero.
We had to deal with stuff. We had to deal
with Reygan, and we to deal with stuff. No, no, no,

(01:43:26):
I would say there has been nothing. There's been nothing.
And even if you go back sixties, if you think
White House, you didn't have this level attack from LBJ.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
Kennedy.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
You go to fifty six, you didn't have this attack
really from Eisenhower.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
He was indifferent. Then you go Truman, FDR.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
This literally we've not seen this, we have not seen this,
but this literally is the most direct saw an anti
black presidential administration since that violent racist Woodrow Wilson.

Speaker 17 (01:44:07):
Absolutely absolutely, and that's why I.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
Need people to understand that there are no games here.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
This is an all out assault on everything black, everything black.

Speaker 38 (01:44:19):
And you think in terms of resources, when we're thinking
about how the middle class was built, when we think
about black folks moving forward, we just think we're gonna
sit back and it's just an fade out.

Speaker 17 (01:44:28):
It will not.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
First of all, if you attack, if you attack the
federal government of the jobs, you are attacking the black
middle PROTESTAI means you're attacking black housing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
Then you're you're tack black giving.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
Then what they're now doing by attacking with the companies,
they're now freezing them resources that are going to nonprofits,
so that are going to see Folks don't understand how
this thing is how it is impacting everything downstream.

Speaker 17 (01:44:53):
That's right, there is an anti black agenda. Do not
fool yourself. There's an evidence. It's not even like behind.

Speaker 7 (01:45:00):
Behind closed door.

Speaker 17 (01:45:01):
It's in our faith.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
Oh yeah, they real public.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
I mean last week Senator Eric Schmidt, Missouri Republican gave
one of the most racist speech people kind of looking
at it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
He literally, we did it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
We showed from town last week. He literally said our
ancestors did it was for them and us right nobody else.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
He was saying, this thing was for white people.

Speaker 38 (01:45:26):
You know, the irony around that is who built this country,
and also the irony around so you believe that black
folk that we are existing in this country for the
pleasure of just serving you, Like, we've got to wake
up and recognize that even God gave a duckt enough
sense to take care of his douglans. We've got to
protect our communities at all costs, even if you don't
even believe in Okay, you're not excited about voting, No,

(01:45:47):
I don't need you to be excited.

Speaker 17 (01:45:48):
I need you to be I need you to.

Speaker 38 (01:45:49):
Be focused on I you what it takes to build
power and to protect my community.

Speaker 17 (01:45:54):
And I don't think that that's the only way.

Speaker 38 (01:45:56):
Yes, we've got economic power, we got all of it,
but we cannot fool ourselves to think that voting does
not matter when the people who are being put in
position are making policies that are impacting our families every
single day. Like we've got to be sophisticated enough to
really recognize that.

Speaker 17 (01:46:13):
I've got to stop you at all calls.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
And this is critcicul in this moment that said Natasha Brown,
co founder Black Voters Matter, we appreciate it, last thing, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:46:22):
And I keep saying this here. We also have to
fund our institutions.

Speaker 9 (01:46:26):
We do.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
Y'all heard me say, listen, if you want to give
a campaign, that's fine. I would rather you give money
to Black Voters Matter because you know the money is
going on the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
I'm not trying to fight.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
These Then deal with these white consultants who don't want
to invest money on the ground, who don't want to
do black on media, who want us to be sharecroppers,
and that is get out there and vote.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
Or volunteer for free.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
But when we fund our institutions, if we literally are
funding Black Voters Matter, then we can run our own
black testing commercials, using black posters, using black strategists, and
actually employing black people out there on.

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
The on the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
These other cats want us to volunteer, so we also
have to understand why, and funding our.

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
Own always gets them FREDA, but it all comes.

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
Back to our community because it's actually being spent on
black people.

Speaker 38 (01:47:23):
Absolutely, And I want to say this to you. I
want to say this to you too because I am
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If y'all look at the Paul Robeson, I'm not my
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Paul ropes In picture in our studio James Baldwin, the
James Bawlin piece that hangs in our Blackstart.

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Network studios there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
I loved that piece, and so one day I was
on Etsy and I actually saw that and I hit
Dominique Brown and I said, man, I said, I got
to get that, and so she sent that to us.
I bought it from a paid for it and show
she's the award winning artist behind Domo Inc.

Speaker 14 (01:54:25):
Of course, a.

Speaker 2 (01:54:25):
Virant art piece is unapolitically bold and reflected creative brand
known for modern portraits, culture, textures and all of that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
DOMINIQ. Jones is right now, glad to have you here.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
First and foremost just folks who don't know when din't
you really start your art?

Speaker 25 (01:54:43):
Man, I've been drawing since I was a little girl.
Like my first image I have with myself, I guess
thought was when I was in preschool.

Speaker 16 (01:54:50):
I did an illustration of a lady on paper plate.

Speaker 25 (01:54:54):
To me, I thought it was bomb probably now on hindside,
it probably wasn't. But my teacher telling me like, this
is a really nice portrait, I think like basically put
me on the path that it's always keep drawing.

Speaker 9 (01:55:12):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
Art for many people is very personal and their different styles.
What really attracted my attention was the vibrancy of your peaches.
Some people some pieces some people are a lot darker
as well, and so explain why that is a part
of your signature in terms of these really vibrant works
of art.

Speaker 25 (01:55:35):
I think for me, I grew up in a very
vibrant house, Like my parents had art all over the home.

Speaker 4 (01:55:40):
We have figurines.

Speaker 22 (01:55:43):
Every Christmas.

Speaker 25 (01:55:44):
There always mind me art supplies, like I've always been
around color, Like my house was colorful as you can see.
I think for me, I think it's really important to
bring that into people's spaces. I think obviously like people,
I guess like you probably even look at like and say,
if you have a kid, I grew up in a
beige room, compared to a kid I.

Speaker 4 (01:56:02):
Was born in a colorful room.

Speaker 25 (01:56:03):
The colorful the kid that was in the color room
is creative, has thoughts behind they're just like more artistic.
So I think that's why I pushed that in my
artwork of just basically inspiring people to be creative.

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
Let's go to some questions from my panel. Let's see
who I think really is that. Well, you know what,
I'll start with you, Randy. You know you got some
art pieces there, and you always talking about how culture
you are.

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
I think you just booze you.

Speaker 6 (01:56:33):
But going right ahead, whatsoever.

Speaker 20 (01:56:41):
I got kicked out of my kids, our class asked
me not to volunteer anymore. So I am very inspired
and respect all that you're doing. I'm very familiar with
your art.

Speaker 6 (01:56:53):
Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 20 (01:56:54):
When you said I want to be an artist and
this is a living I want to make, how did
your parents react? Because I feel that sometimes, because you know,
black Americans, we've had to live in a kind of
a place of fear, and we talk about get that
good job or benefit, we sometimes are confined and don't
feel like we're able to go out and really use

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our creativity.

Speaker 6 (01:57:16):
So was it easily accepted?

Speaker 25 (01:57:20):
I like that point that you made. I think I
was blessed when my parents were always pushing me. I said, like,
one of the big things that my parents did was
my mom she was taken off from work on Saturday
to drive me to USC when I was in high
school so I can start taking art classes. Once I
got to college, you mentioned with art, you start to

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think like maybe there isn't space for me as an artist.
So I ended up going to get my masters, went
all the way through school to get my masters in marketing,
and then once in twenty twenty, then that's when I
really got serious about like, Okay, I actually should be
an artist.

Speaker 20 (01:57:55):
That's fantastic because just your existence has provided inspiration to
so many people.

Speaker 9 (01:58:01):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:58:04):
Mustapa.

Speaker 22 (01:58:06):
Yeah, well, congratulations, sister.

Speaker 21 (01:58:08):
I'm a huge, huge, huge fan of Jacob Lawrence and
the work that they were able to bring forward.

Speaker 22 (01:58:15):
And their work is all over the place.

Speaker 21 (01:58:17):
If there was one or two locations where you would
want your work to be, where would that where would
that actually be?

Speaker 25 (01:58:25):
I honestly love seeing my artwork in retail. I think,
especially now with all the rollbacks, I think this is
a very antiguo time to where I want my artwork
to stay there. Right now, I have a collection at
Walmart where I'm selling hair accessories, and to be able
to see that kids, college students, elderly can go inside

(01:58:47):
and buy a bonnet here like uh, I can't even uh.
Rubber bands scrungies that reflective of black culture is very important.
I think it's it's helpful for people to spill seen
in their space. So now we're seeing retail pulled back
on a lot of black owned businesses.

Speaker 4 (01:59:06):
And we don't have that no more. We kind of
have to go online.

Speaker 25 (01:59:09):
So I kind of want to be able to still
be able to be in retail overcoming years so people
can continue to feel seen another place as well. I
think it's really good for me. It's been in campaigns.
I think people really need to see themselves there as well.
I did everything that the collaboration rams for Drink teak
to where people were able so in that in that campaign,
I created straight up I guess apparel. Also, we went

(01:59:31):
to Floridas John And Elementary School where we're painted murals
for the kids so they can see themselves reflected because
the murals had children of all different races. So I
think I just really want to kind of stay in
those spaces and retail and campaigns.

Speaker 9 (01:59:47):
Joe, Yeah, this is really amazing.

Speaker 18 (01:59:51):
I'm sitting here looking at the website, you got, you
got wall, you got our you've got decor, you've got clothes,
you've got lifestyle. What is the next frontier? Because you
already do so much and it kind of connects to
the previous question. Are there any kinds of products that

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you don't make already that you would like to make?

Speaker 17 (02:00:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 25 (02:00:16):
So right now I'm leaning a lot into like plushies,
I'm leaning into collectibles.

Speaker 6 (02:00:21):
I think that's something I really want to get into.

Speaker 25 (02:00:24):
Like Christmas season is coming up, so I currently right
now we're creating nutcrackers, which is different.

Speaker 16 (02:00:29):
Because I feel like it's still part of the whole, like.

Speaker 25 (02:00:32):
Hey, like let's bring ourselves to faces. So I think,
thank you, Yeah, because as you know there, if you
go to the store, you're not gonna find a black
nut cracker. If you do, it's just a white figuringe
out just beaning black. So I think for me, I
just always want to continue to create products that are
reflective of our culture, no.

Speaker 13 (02:00:53):
Matter what it is.

Speaker 25 (02:00:54):
So I think that's why I'm kind of leaning into
more of the toy design because I want to kind
of start getting to a younger generation so that they
don't have that same kind of feeling that I had
growing up where I wasn't seeing black art, to where
I didn't feel like I could be a black artist.
So I want to kind of start in a younger space.
So that's why I'm leading into the plushies as I
have right here, which is the Honeysupreme. It is basically

(02:01:18):
thank you Yes, because it's basically a metaphor to sunflowers.
How sunflowers with the sun. Sunflowers are basically a symbol
of resilience, positivity, always looking up.

Speaker 22 (02:01:31):
No matter what the circumstances are.

Speaker 2 (02:01:36):
All right, then with folks again, dominic gast some amazing pieces.
If y'all go to shop Blackstar Network dot com, y'all
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in our studio, you can absolutely do so. If you
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as well.

Speaker 1 (02:02:00):
So it's Domino Inc.

Speaker 2 (02:02:01):
And so support her artwork. Dominique, I appreciate you being
today's show.

Speaker 1 (02:02:04):
Thanks a lot.

Speaker 17 (02:02:06):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:02:08):
All right then, folks, that is it for us. Let
me thank Mustafa, Randy and Joe being on today's show.

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I certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much.

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