Moral Monday Exposes Trump’s Immoral Budget, Senate Megabill vote, Trump vs LA, Miami Election Delay

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There's Monday, June thirty, a two thousand, twenty five coming up.
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Faith leaders from across the country joined Bishop William Barber
today for Moral Monday DC, a national movement nining against
what they call an immoral budget that Republicans are poised
to support on Capitol Heel. We broadcast that event live,

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will show you some of what took place. A marathon
vote continues in the United States. Marathon discussion actually continues
in the United States Senate over at the massive megabill.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Trump calls a.

Speaker 9 (03:34):
Big beautiful bill, others called a big ugly bill. We'll
show you some of what the conversations were on the
floor of the United States Senate.

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that are going after Santuary City of specifically Los Angeles,
alleging that it is obstructing immigrant immigration enforcement. They're suing them.

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Folks.

Speaker 9 (05:27):
This morning in Washington, DC, faith leaders from across the
country marched to the Supreme Court.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
And the capital of a more Monday.

Speaker 9 (05:44):
All right, folks, all right, so all right, folks, So
let's start over.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Okay. Earlier today the nation's capital, a.

Speaker 9 (05:56):
Number of faith leaders and their supporters marched from a
church in DC to Supreme Court, where they held their
own hearing as related to what they call the immoral
budget happening in Washington, d C. It was led by
Bishop William Barber, repairs of the Breach and the Poor
People's Campaign. They have been blasting this budget that the

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House has passed. The Senate had an initial vote on
and found debate continues, and the movement calls of people
of conscience to unite in sacred outrage and demand justice,
truth and transformative change. Volunteers, clergy and concerned citizens are
speaking out against all policies they deemed immoral and deadly.
Marchers arrived carrying symbolic coffins representing the lives they believe

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could be lost in the proposed federal big budget bill
with Trump's calls it. Although they call it a big
ugly bill if it.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Has passed and signed in to law.

Speaker 9 (06:52):
During today's event, they broke down the emmoral budget, but
not before Bishop Barbara explained why they are protesting this bill.

Speaker 12 (07:01):
Well, what we said, we don't come to get arrested,
but we will arrest the attention of the nation, all right,
And this is a time that we all have to
stand together. I I wanna be very straight and clear
and move forward. We're gonna have John to come first

(07:22):
of all and give us the numbers from IPS, and
then we're gonna put a face on the numbers.

Speaker 10 (07:29):
We're gonna put a face on the numbers.

Speaker 12 (07:33):
But for the millions of you, are that out there,
and the reason you need to be weighing these phones
out and calling these senators and house members and pushing
hard and not and whatever they do, we're gonna have
to keep working is because, first of all, the Scripture says,
if my people will call by my name, will humble

(07:56):
themselves and pray.

Speaker 10 (07:59):
See God's face.

Speaker 12 (08:00):
And God's face is a face of justice, a face
of mercy, and a face of love. And then it says,
and turn from their wicked ways. God says, I'll heal
the land. Today, I don't feel like pulling any punches.
We are facing wickedness. Yes, there's something wicked when you

(08:30):
have power of a congressman, a house member or senator
and all you can do is think about how to
get up in the morning and hurt as many people
as you can. There's something wicked about that. There's something wrong,
some evil when you've got power and you've got free
health care simply because you got elected to office, but

(08:54):
then you want to block the people from having health care,
and worse than that, you want to take away the
health care there have. It's one thing if folks didn't
never have it, but have it and then get away.
The level of wickedness and wrong and injustice. I want
to quote Tom Tillis. Wait a minute for you clap.

(09:18):
I want to quote Tom Tillis because last night, finally
he said, my party is making a turb a big mistake. No, no, no,
they're not making a mistake.

Speaker 10 (09:35):
This is deliberate.

Speaker 11 (09:36):
Yes, yes, wow.

Speaker 10 (09:38):
This is not a mistake.

Speaker 12 (09:41):
This is policy violence, this is policy murder. That's why
we brought these caskets today because in the first year
of this bill, as it is, the estimates are that
fifty one thousand people will die. In other words, you
know that, and if you know that and still pass it,

(10:06):
that's not a mistake.

Speaker 10 (10:07):
Yes, it's not a mistake.

Speaker 12 (10:10):
If my people, if my papers called by my name,
will seek my prey and seek my face and turn from.

Speaker 10 (10:16):
That wicked ways.

Speaker 12 (10:19):
It took us nearly sixty years to get to this
form of health care.

Speaker 10 (10:23):
Anyway.

Speaker 12 (10:26):
Theodore Roosevelt was talking about it in the nineteen hundreds.
And then you had another senator was his name. He's
from Kansas, and he voted for the debate. But then
he said he had a lot of disagreement. Let me
have my son son. You can take that moment. Let
me have his son. Vitamin did good for me, he said.

(10:49):
He said that he voted. He didn't a lot of
bad things in the bill, but he voted for it.
Listen at this because he got something is delayed. And
I wanted to say, what the hell is wrong with you?
You're going to want to delay the pain? Good to

(11:11):
to delay. If you get a six months and delay
people getting hurt, or a year delay, what you want
to do is delay it till you're not in office,
so you can't be Samre. It's Mike. He's going on,
I need a battery. It's shameful, it's mean, it's unconstitutional,

(11:33):
it's moreley indefensible.

Speaker 10 (11:36):
The scriptures say.

Speaker 12 (11:38):
It's wicked, not just William Barber or tomorrow Monday. The
scriptures say that any time Mike give me some more,
anytime persons will legislate evil. That's how the scriptures describe it.
And make women and children pray.

Speaker 10 (12:00):
Pr e y.

Speaker 12 (12:02):
And whenever you make somebody pray pr e why that
means you're going after their life.

Speaker 17 (12:08):
Right.

Speaker 10 (12:10):
But the reason is it's wicked.

Speaker 12 (12:13):
And come on, John, and evil and mean and bad
is because it's all rooted in money and the love
of money. And somebody knows that. I heard somebody just
say the love of money is the root of all evil.

(12:33):
And we're here today not just the protest what's wrong,
but to demonstrate for what's right. We shouldn't be having
a debate over how to take people's health care. We
should be having a debate over how to give people
health care.

Speaker 10 (12:47):
That should be the issue. I don't need it.

Speaker 12 (12:52):
We should be debating that. And it's something wrong country
where we are now, and it's not everybody. It's Mega,
it's Trump, it's Johnson, it's human. For the love of money,
sometime I want to ask, what does Trump on y'all?

Speaker 10 (13:13):
Yeah, if you have.

Speaker 12 (13:15):
Some cameras on you in the what does he have
on you that will make you go after and hurt
this many people? And so my brothers and sisters. That's
why we stand, that's why we demonstrate, that's why we protest.
And to the media, stop repeating some of you. Some

(13:37):
of you are, but some of you Trump's talking points.
The reason he calls press conferences in the middle of
the day is because anytime, anytime the news is talking
about what's really going on, he'll call a press come
to distract. Stop calling his bill his name. It's not

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a big, a beautiful, ugly bill. It's a big, ugly, damnable, dangerous, deadly,
destructive bill.

Speaker 10 (14:14):
We need some truth telling.

Speaker 12 (14:17):
So John from IPS come on and tell us some truth.
And you know what, our rallies we have the politicians
to come to listen so that when they go back
to the floor, they carry the people with them. And
so Jane, we thank you and others who have come
to listen today. But here we go, John tell us

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first of all the top ten things that are bad
about this bill, because it's more than just to medicaid,
and then talk to us about the deadliest part.

Speaker 10 (14:51):
Of what's going on.

Speaker 12 (14:52):
And then we're gonna put a face on these numbers.

Speaker 18 (14:59):
Thank you, Ship Barber, Thank you Congressman Raskin and others
who are here who will bring this message back to
the Capital. I'm John Cavannah from the Institute for Policy Studies,
and it's been an honor for us to work with
Bishop Barber and Repairs of the Breach and the powerful
moral groups assembled here this morning to expose to the

(15:19):
American people the immoral budget moving through the US Senate.

Speaker 10 (15:24):
Right now this morning, we.

Speaker 18 (15:26):
Release a crucial update on our joint report, the High
Moral Stakes of Budget Reconciliation, and we're also releasing new
state by state data on how many people are projected
to lose their medicaid and snap through this budget. And
our analysis concludes that Senator Bernie Sanders was correct last

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night on the Senate floor when he called the proposed
budget the most dangerous piece of legislation in the modern
history of this COUNTRYPS and Repairs research concludes that no
single act of Congress has ever added more to the
US deficit and to the violent income and wealth inequality

(16:10):
that threatens our democracy. So I'm going to say just
a few cruel facts that the research shows. One a
health and hospital apocalypse, at least sixteen million Americans would
lose health insurance. That amounts to fourteen poor and low
wealth people for every millionaire household that would.

Speaker 10 (16:34):
Receive a tax cut.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Shame.

Speaker 18 (16:38):
Take the state of New Mexico, We're over a third
of the inhabitants. A total of seven hundred and fourteen
thousand people are on Medicaid and over one hundred and
seventeen thousand people are projected to lose it.

Speaker 10 (16:53):
Shame.

Speaker 18 (16:54):
In New York State, over a million people are projected
to lose Medicare. And I ask you all to look
at these documents. The figures are on the coffins north south,
east west. Over sixteen million people affected by this. Tell
your congress people, tell your senators. Then research and Bishop

(17:19):
Barber just referred to this from Yale and you pen
have estimated that these cuts would result in more than
fifty one thousand preventable deaths per year. That is, one
thousand deaths for each of the coffins that are here today.
And this is not just policy violence, it is policy murder. Sure, yeah, yeah,

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what is it policy murder?

Speaker 10 (17:48):
Two?

Speaker 18 (17:48):
On climate As you know, storm's heat and diseases related
to climate change are killing tens of thousands and creating
millions of climate refugees. Well, the Senate bill now includes
more than one billion in new tax breaks and subsidies
for the fossil fuel industry.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Shame.

Speaker 18 (18:07):
On top of existing subsidies that will accelerate climate change
while costing tax payers and estimated seventeen billion per year.
This is policy murder. What is it policy murder? Three
hundreds of billions of dollars more for the war budget
and the deportation budgets. This bill will add roughly one

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hundred and twenty billion dollars to the war budget, which
eats up more than half of the total discretionary budget
of this nation. And it adds roughly one hundred and
fifty billion to cruelly arrest, detain, and deport immigrants.

Speaker 10 (18:47):
Shame.

Speaker 18 (18:48):
These expenditures will enrich the CEOs of the military contractors
and private prisons while killing thousands more in US wars
and inhumane detention facilities.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
This is policy murder.

Speaker 10 (19:03):
Awesomer murder.

Speaker 18 (19:07):
So I bring you to these documents.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Use them.

Speaker 10 (19:10):
There's two of them.

Speaker 18 (19:11):
Up on the repair two new ones up on the
Repairers website, the IPS website, the state by state breakdown
going through each of the different areas.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
In the budget.

Speaker 18 (19:22):
But we want to end repairers IPS the rest of
us by saying that it is within our power as
a nation to end this policy murder on the most vulnerable. Yes,
by fairly taxing the wealthy and giant military and fossil
fuel corporations, reducing our blooded military budget, and demilitarizing immigration policy,

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we could free up.

Speaker 10 (19:47):
More than enough.

Speaker 18 (19:48):
Public funds to ensure that we can all survive and thrive.
So today we hurt you all as you call your
congress people to join this moral fusion movement to force
our elected officials to spend this budget and to pass
a moral budget.

Speaker 12 (20:11):
Thank you, John, and John, I want you to read
at least five of the southern states, because down south,
where one third of all poor people live. These senators
come up here and say that they're doing what's right
by their people, and they phrase this stuff in coded
race language.

Speaker 10 (20:30):
But the people that's going to be killed.

Speaker 12 (20:31):
They won't be killed by race, They'll be killed by
death and policy murder. But just share with us, like
Texas and Georgia and North Carolina, I want you all
to hear these numbers. And South Carolina, Lindsey Graham is
leading this. But what is Lindsey doing? What does he
talk about the number of people?

Speaker 18 (20:48):
Okay, Georgia eighty four thousand people expected to lose Medicaid,
four hundred and forty thousand expected to lose SNAP benefits.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
Moving down two.

Speaker 18 (21:04):
South Carolina, Well, let's start first with I told you
New Mexico. New Mexico has the highest percentage of people
on Medicaid on SNAP. South Carolina forty eight thousand expected
to lose Medicaid, one hundred and forty three thousand expected
to lose SNAP benefits. Texas three hundred and three thousand

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expected to lose Medicaid, eight hundred and six thousand expected
to lose SNAP benefits.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
And in the great state of West Virginia.

Speaker 18 (21:38):
It's not in the South, but it's represented here by
Pam Garrison and others. Seventy five thousand expected to lose Medicaid,
eighty four thousand expected to lose snap benefits.

Speaker 10 (21:50):
This is policy.

Speaker 12 (21:51):
Murder, policy murder. You'll never hear us at Tomorrow Monday.
Criticize people on their personal that personal failings. Personal fail
is because everybody has those. But what we are here
in the public square is to criticize those who are
using that public office to destroy people's lives. We're here

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for life. Healthcare is life. Standing against war and balance
is life. Fully funding public education is life. Living wages
is life. We are not here as a coalition of death.
That's what we see going on with this murder and killing,

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and we're selling, and not only every time they say
we don't have the money.

Speaker 10 (22:40):
It's not a lie. It's a damn lie. That's what
it really is.

Speaker 12 (22:44):
It's a damnable lie, and we have to call it
out for what it is.

Speaker 9 (22:49):
Now, all right, folks, give you a couple of things.
First of all, you see the box next to me.
So what they're doing is for earlier days, Senator Chuck Schumer,
the Democrats actually overnight forced them to read every single
word of the nine hundred plus page bill. No Republicans

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were in the chamber. Now they're voting on different amendments.
So for instance, they earlier rejected a measure that would
have kicked illegal that were kicked undocumented workers off of
Medicaid that actually failed in the vote. So that's what
that's what happened there. So we're monitoring these various actions in.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
The United States Senate.

Speaker 14 (23:31):
Now.

Speaker 9 (23:32):
Now, after they had their the speeches there in front
of the Supreme Court, the plan of action was for
the folks to move from there to then go to
the plaza in front of the US Capital to pray. Well,
what happened was they were actually stopped by US Capitol police.

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They closed off the plaza. Now mind you, people were
walking on it. It was open, and all of a
sudden they shut it down to prevent them from actually praying.

Speaker 12 (24:04):
Listen, they restricted it today. Heard that they just restricted
it today. They don't want any want to see the truth.
That's why we got to keep throwing.

Speaker 10 (24:20):
It at it.

Speaker 12 (24:21):
That's why they gotta have media here to tell it
all before. Look at all the people going they're not restricted.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
We're just going to pray.

Speaker 19 (24:31):
So you going down to paplights going down?

Speaker 10 (24:50):
No, he said, we could well.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Set we would really preferring to prison.

Speaker 12 (25:00):
Get to the second play back see where the people
will walk shut it back, right, you should correct.

Speaker 10 (25:10):
Yeah, this would be preferred. They can't see it. They
see it. They can see if I had two people
going up there, you'll be all it's gonna be all right.
If two people go up there, it'll be all right.
I got you, Thank you, officer.

Speaker 12 (25:33):
So technically we can go up to the second place.
But the reason we're not doing that is because we're
in the street to say we can't go down this road.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
That's right.

Speaker 12 (25:45):
We cannot keep going down this road as a nation.

Speaker 10 (25:50):
So it's time to pray.

Speaker 12 (25:52):
I want to let you all began praying from that
from my right as we begin now go take.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
It down.

Speaker 20 (26:03):
Ready, everybody, spirit of all breadth.

Speaker 21 (26:12):
We gather today remembering that everybody is sacred, black, brown, undocumented, disabled,
housed or unhoused.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
This budget forgets that truth.

Speaker 18 (26:27):
But we remember, we remember that thirteen point seven million
people may lose health in church.

Speaker 9 (26:36):
We will not let policy silence the dignity you placed
in each of us.

Speaker 10 (26:43):
This is not governance.

Speaker 22 (26:48):
It is policy, all right.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
That's about together.

Speaker 7 (26:57):
Another war. Not the poet O holy one who sides
with the lovely as guy.

Speaker 10 (27:06):
Sally Muggets, as.

Speaker 23 (27:07):
Melias to the wealthy, while strip me.

Speaker 11 (27:11):
Three hundred and seventy thousand North Carolinius a second, we right, rigeous.

Speaker 22 (27:21):
Righteousness around for girls.

Speaker 18 (27:31):
No beg you your stay.

Speaker 22 (27:53):
Thousand in the girlful sis, Jesus.

Speaker 9 (28:06):
Quiet one sound.

Speaker 22 (28:11):
In the week, shadow marches, sermons, I'm resist time, I'm
blest you.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
Action were.

Speaker 24 (28:32):
Rare for the seven millions of.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Thirteen ship.

Speaker 23 (28:43):
Old children.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
It's not it's a blue crape for that.

Speaker 24 (28:49):
We refe gets the day low.

Speaker 10 (29:18):
Us because.

Speaker 25 (29:25):
You.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (29:40):
Everyone needs to push back to the side.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Remember said we're gonna push it.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
Let me y'all on the sidewalk like everything, this sidewalk.

Speaker 10 (29:49):
Y'all gonna have the all skew bags, sir. Everyone needs
to be on the sidewalk, please, all the way on
the sidewalk. Y'all gonna have to push each other back.
I need everyone, ma'am.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
I need you on this all.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
Honey, you on the sidewalk, please, sir, please back up.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
Please is not taking you can't take the baby.

Speaker 10 (30:10):
You stay on the sidewalk.

Speaker 13 (30:11):
Please.

Speaker 14 (30:12):
Matins already from God, but not.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Who bad.

Speaker 7 (30:51):
Let Trump beside that these bones will live, that justice

(31:14):
will breathe a game that the breadth of God will
not be cut.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
From the poor.

Speaker 10 (31:23):
We went for her children, we who were wegreed.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
That never now folks.

Speaker 9 (31:29):
While that was happening outside the US Capital, another group
of folks from repairs of the breach actually went into
the capital rotunda to pray, where yep, they were also arrested, yes,
for praying.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Watch God, we.

Speaker 26 (31:49):
Are gathered beneath this dome of political power to pray
that your mercy, which sustains to help, prevail to save
us from.

Speaker 10 (31:58):
The lord budget that will store millions of lives. We
have also read the budget resolution of his Congress.

Speaker 18 (32:06):
Which calls for one point five trillion dollars and cuts
to life saving and life sustaining programs in order to
give a tax break to billionaires.

Speaker 23 (32:15):
When we hear the Speaker of this House parrot a
regime he aims to please by calling this ugly and
immoral budget one big, beautiful bill, we recall the prophet
Isaiah's woe against those who call what is good evil
and what is evil good.

Speaker 26 (32:34):
All of our religious traditions a firm care for the
sick and the dying, but this budget proposes an eight
hundred and eighty billion dollars cut to Medicaid, which could
result in thirty six million Americans losing access to healthcare.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
But the proposed budget of this Congress threats to take
snap benefits away from tens of millions of our most
vulnerable neighbors.

Speaker 7 (33:00):
We are also here because we know that to affirth
their prize and cause us to.

Speaker 11 (33:05):
Spend with the bounce life and re repit of the waves,
all allow the language or symbols of our faith to
prop up a useless of power.

Speaker 27 (33:16):
And we allow people to use your name and your
sacred gifts to us as justification for religious nationalism that
is peddestic against one another.

Speaker 10 (33:26):
Order our steps on war, Order our steps.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
With your love, your truth, and your justice, you.

Speaker 28 (33:33):
Can soften the hearts of representatives who refuse to hear
from their constituents.

Speaker 29 (33:39):
Deliver us, Lord from the deceptive life that says our
nation will be better off if those who have little.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Get less and those who have too much get more.

Speaker 12 (33:55):
I guess and.

Speaker 28 (33:58):
Were unlawfully demonstrating inside of Retunda building.

Speaker 10 (34:04):
He needed lead now right now.

Speaker 30 (34:06):
Where Hey, God, you gotta go.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
This way?

Speaker 22 (34:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Mistake folks.

Speaker 9 (34:39):
A number of folks have been speaking about this particular
bill uh and again it it narrowly passed on the
first vote. One of those folks is North Carolina Senator
Tom Tillis, a Republican.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
He voted against the bill.

Speaker 9 (34:53):
Donald Trump then threatened him, saying how he blasted him,
saying he was gonna find somebody to run a against
him next year for reelection. Tilliston announced that he was
going to retire and not seek reelection. Well, that then
caused him to take the muzzle off, and he went

(35:15):
after this bill and the impact, especially in medicate on
his state. It's amazing how he found courage after he
chose not to seek reelection.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Just listen to some of what he had to say.

Speaker 25 (35:32):
So, we had three different conference calls with CMS with
eyes on the phone and on the video and me
on the video, and I said this, guys, I would
love nothing more than you to prove me wrong. I
would love nothing more for you to tell me it's
not twenty six billion or thirty billion, that it's two
point six billion or two billion our two hundred million.

(35:54):
But after three different attempts for them to discredit our
estimate the day before yesterday, they admit it that we
were right. That between the state directed payments and the
cuts scheduled in this bill. There's a reduction of state
directed payments and then there's the reduction of the provider text.

Speaker 10 (36:17):
They can't find.

Speaker 6 (36:18):
A hole in my estimate.

Speaker 25 (36:21):
So what they told me is that, yeah, it's rough,
but North Carolina's use the system. They're going to have
to make it work, all right. So what do I
tell six hundred and sixty three thousand people in two
years or three years when President Trump breaks his promise
by pushing them off of Medicaid because the funding's not

(36:44):
there anymore, when the White House richers advising the President
are not telling him that the effect of this bill
is to break a promise. And you know, the last
time I saw a promise broken around healthcare with respect
to my friends on the other side of the aisle,

(37:05):
is when somebody said, if you like your healthcare, you
could keep it, If you like your doctor, you could
keep it. We found out that wasn't true. That made
me the second Republican Speaker of the House since the
Civil War, Ladies and gentlemen, because we betrayed the promise
to the American people. Two years later, three years later,

(37:28):
it actually made me a US senator because in twenty
ten it had just been proposed, and just anticipation of
what was going to happen was enough to have a
sea change election. The swept Republicans into the majority for
the second time in one hundred years. Now Republicans are

(37:51):
about to make a mistake on healthcare and betraying a promise.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
It is inescapable.

Speaker 25 (38:00):
This bill in its current form will betray the very
promise that Donald J.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Trump made in the Oval office.

Speaker 25 (38:08):
Or in the Cabinet room when I was there with Finance,
where he said we can go after waste, fraud and
abuse on any programs. Now, those amateurs that are advising him,
not doctor Oz, I'm talking about White House healthcare experts,
refused to tell him that those instructions that were to

(38:30):
eliminate waste, fraud and abuse, all of a sudden eliminates
a government program that's called the provider tax. We have
morphed a legal construct that admittedly has been abused and
should be eliminated, and to waste fraud and abuse, money laundering.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Read the code.

Speaker 10 (38:51):
Look at how long it's been there. I was Speaker
of the House. I refused to do it.

Speaker 25 (38:55):
When I left North Carolina. I said, we're not going
to do a provider tax. I left it two and
a half percent. Now it's six mistake on the part
of the leadership. And frankly, I know my friends are
probably going to think I'm a little bit crazy here,
but I actually passed a lot. It made it illegal
to expand Medicaid. Why did I do that because I

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was convinced someday we would be here.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
And I would have rather found a way to get more.

Speaker 25 (39:22):
People on Medicaid at the standard f MAP than having
this ninety ten match and watching it disappear and taking
away desperately needed healthcare.

Speaker 9 (39:34):
Wow, courage boy would have been great. V said all
of that before announced his retirement. Now, after today's march,
I got a chance to chat with Bishop William barber
Or to explain exactly why they are advocating in the
way that they are.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Watch you, I don't understand. And they would not let
y'all go into the plaza praying.

Speaker 12 (40:04):
So we started out we couldn't pray in the retunn
so last week they told us we couldn't pray people
at the plazas. Now they've had people pray in both places,
but they weren't praying about injustice.

Speaker 10 (40:17):
They were praying about there on you know, Macca.

Speaker 12 (40:20):
So this week, all of a sudden, all those fences
went up, right, and that had to come from the
orders upstairs.

Speaker 9 (40:26):
Well, first of all, he was saying, you could have gone,
but there were people who lively walking on all the way.

Speaker 10 (40:30):
Yeah, well all day, all morning.

Speaker 12 (40:31):
Right, it was restricted, but he said, you can't go
on it with your cascas, and if we went across
the police line, there would be difference at a chargers
and we're not gonna let them set the people up
like that. So we said, okay, what we're gonna do
is go in the street to say we don't need
to go down this road. But they are afraid of
prayer and justice being hooked together because you know, we're

(40:53):
not praying unless you are over there right way. Oh yeah,
you can pray and shout and run and have a
dance if you want to. But you look at the
number of people to testify us today. We had about
twelve times more people this time than the last time.
They kind of got we had over a million people
cross posting and out there. So we just got to

(41:13):
keep the pressure up and I say, no matter what
happens to this bill, we got to keep people angry
and focus and clear so we can mobilize all those
folks when it comes time to get these folks.

Speaker 9 (41:25):
Out of That was a Fox News poem where almost
sixteen percent of people were against this bill.

Speaker 12 (41:29):
That's right, that's their pope, that's their poe. And so
my thing is, you do this to sixteen million people.
That's sixteen million people. We get to fight, and it
is going to be a political fight. People have said
different times elections are most important. This election has got
to be the most important because it says whether America
will stand for this or whether or not.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
What do you make of your home state center?

Speaker 10 (41:51):
Getting some courage lord him now.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
That he's not running for reelection.

Speaker 12 (41:54):
Yeah, ain't that's some strange curier. You get the current
hold that doctor when you're not running for reelection.

Speaker 10 (41:59):
I wish he's of a sudden he's speaking truth.

Speaker 9 (42:01):
Yeah, I always come around here, come around here, I'm
about to sit out.

Speaker 12 (42:04):
Well, you know it was partial truth because that's my car.
It's partial truth. Yeah, it's partial truth because he wanted
to go back to the House bill.

Speaker 10 (42:13):
Uh huh.

Speaker 12 (42:13):
But the truth I want to see him. I wish
he had stud and voted and got some of his
other people right. I'm glad he did what he did,
but why quit?

Speaker 10 (42:21):
Right? My thing is what right try and have on you?
If it's that bad.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
It's like when Jeff Flake quit in Arizona. Yeah, when
I forgot the guy in Tennessee.

Speaker 10 (42:29):
To quit, they were all afraid to oppose it, all afraid.
I mean, what does this man have on you? And
so Tom Tillors. But Tom tills was the one that
passed the bad voting laws. Yeah, voter section.

Speaker 12 (42:39):
But I'm glad that he spoke up. But I wish
he would stay and fight and get some redemption for
all the other stuff because it's there and tell oh yeah,
tell twenty six.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
So fight man.

Speaker 12 (42:50):
But it's gonna be a it's gonna be a ride
in North Carolina next year, sir, and we're gonna we're
gonna see some new things happen.

Speaker 10 (42:55):
We'll be there. Thank you for coming, Rod, I appreciate it.
Thank you.

Speaker 9 (42:57):
Appreciating folks, the opportunity to catch up with some folks
who will add today's march to share their thoughts on
why it was important for them to step out and protest.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
He was a man from so let's go and roll that.
What brings you here today?

Speaker 6 (43:14):
Why was this important to you to come in protest?

Speaker 28 (43:17):
It was important to me because I felt like they're
not giving the voice to the people, to give us
a chance to speak out against the Big Beautiful Bill,
as it's called. I don't think that they're putting out
all the facts, all the people that will be impacted,
lose Medicaid, medicare, who's access to snap, the extra eligibility,

(43:38):
and the hoops that don't have to go through to
receive those benefits. I don't think that they're giving out
all the facts.

Speaker 12 (43:43):
To the people.

Speaker 28 (43:43):
They're trying to make it sound like it is a
big beautiful bill, and it's really not. It's going to
cause a lot of death and a lot more poverty.
Separate the wealth gap or increase the wealth gap, and
just give more tax benefits.

Speaker 8 (43:55):
To the rich.

Speaker 27 (43:56):
If you don't mind me asking, is there any like
with the camackech text being cut in the Big Beautiful Bill?
Is there like any story or anything you want to
share with us that affects you or anyone that you
know of, and even people that you have met here
in the protests or we personally absolutely.

Speaker 28 (44:13):
I have plenty of friends and family who are on Medicaid, medicare.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
I know several people that are close to me that
still depend upon wick and food.

Speaker 28 (44:23):
Stamps set and so again, all that stuff being cut
just I have a big concern for them and how
they'll be able to continue living.

Speaker 9 (44:33):
Folks, there's so much to unpack that it's in this
particular bill. It is an absolute giveaway to rich folks
in corporate America. It screws low income poor people and
all of these so called evangelicals.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
On the right, Oh, they are loving it. And it's
really shameful.

Speaker 9 (44:55):
And so there's a furious effort on the part of
Democrats that's to flip a couple of Republicans to vote
against this and kill this bill.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Join us down.

Speaker 9 (45:06):
Doctor ome Congo de Being a senior publacer Electric Schools
International Service, American University, author of Lives About Black People,
How to Combat Races Well out of DC.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
Doctor Larry J.

Speaker 9 (45:15):
Walker, Associate Professor, University of Central Florida, out of Orlando
m Hotel hosts African.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
History Network show out of Detroit. Glad to have all
three of you here. Lara, I'm going to start with you.

Speaker 9 (45:26):
The thing here is, we saw what happened over the weekend,
deals with people like Alaska Center and Lisa Murkowski that
would do various carve outs for her particular state. Well,
the Senate palmentarian overrule those, saying those cannot be used
when it comes to reconciliation. Folks who don't understand the
Senate rules by reconciliation, they could pass it with a

(45:46):
simple majority and they not require a sixty vote threshold.
So that's why they're using the reconciliation.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Way. So that's out of the windows. So what are
you going to do?

Speaker 9 (45:57):
Lisa Murkowski Center, Susan Collins, she voted for this, because
we know Senator Tom Tiller's voted against it. Senator Ram
Paul voted against it. He was blasting it, saying it
was going to massively raise the federal deficit.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
And that's what Republicans were always crowing about. So it
hypocrites abound.

Speaker 13 (46:19):
So it's interesting, Well, and this is this bill in
the very reflect on my time on Capitol Hill. We
Republicans or physical hawks, right, remember all that talk over
the last several decades about you know, being responsible stewarts.
So we know that the CBO Congressional Budget Office has
said that this bill will add over three trillion dollars
to the deficit, and obviously not even talking about the

(46:39):
economic health care impact in terms of more than eleven
million people being kicked off of the healthcare whether it's
still the Affordable Care Act, of various other mechanisms. So
this bill is going to have a tremendous and not
in a good way impact on the US economy, particularly
the lives.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Of everyday citizens.

Speaker 13 (46:58):
The other thing that we're not enough about, Roland is
the impact this is going to have done ability for
lower income, middle class kids going off the college. It
lowers pelgramts. It also makes it more difficult for people
to take out student loans plus loans. I believe that
it eliminates plus loans et cetera, and doesn't give you
a pathway to have your loans forgiven. This is going

(47:20):
to impact the terms of individuals who are want to
be dentists or physicians, etc. So the implications of this
bill are far reaching, and there are a lot of
Americans who are sleep walking through this and by day
time they look up over the next two to three years.
It may not necessarily impact you, but it's going to
devastate family and friends and other members of your community.
And this wide ranging bill is it's just a travesty.

(47:43):
In all my years working on Capitol Hill and following politics,
I've never seen a bill like this with such a
massive wealth transfer from low to modern income families to
wealthy families.

Speaker 9 (47:54):
I mean, what we people say, what they're saying is
that flat out that this could be the biggest worth
wealth transfer in American history.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
That's what we constantly hang on, Ma Congo.

Speaker 31 (48:11):
Yeah, and it's happening right in front of all of
our faces. And the fact of the matter is you
spent this whole segment showing what Reverend Barber is doing
and others.

Speaker 6 (48:23):
We talk about this every day, and us and all
of us.

Speaker 31 (48:26):
Here are damn near twenty twenty four hour consumers of news.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
We haven't seen this anywhere.

Speaker 31 (48:32):
A study came out today that showed, like on Fox News,
the ratio of them on Fox I'm sorry because it's
not news, the ratio of them mentioning Medicaid versus mentioning
Biden is ten to one. They mentioned Biden more than
they do Medicaid. So the people who are watching that,
so many people out there don't even know about this bill,
and some who know about the bill don't even know

(48:53):
about Medicaid being in it, and so the messaging has
been very problematic. Democrats have gotten a lot better on
the messaging on this particular issue. But people need to
be these senators, these politicians, these democrats, they need to
be out there with more on Mondays. They need to
be out here, you know, talking about this every day.
They need to be big enough this platform because when
we're talking about this wealth transfer, I'm just so funny.

(49:15):
I'm just tired of seeing so many issues in this country.
And I know we'll talk more about them tonight, the
immigration and other stuff. People not feeling like something's going
to bother them because they feel like it doesn't affect them.
This is going to affect you, Oh, I got private insurance.
It's not going to affect you. You think it's not
going to affect you. When more people are looking for
you know, the fewer doctors that are available, or people

(49:36):
are flooding the hospitals are flooding the network. We can
go down the list of how many things that are
going to affect people who think this bill won't affect them.
But it's not going to happen unless we have more
people like you, Roland Martin, like Reverend Barbers, who are
out there telling the truth. And I appli not only
Revend Barbara, but all of the people of all backgrounds, religious, racial, cultural,

(49:56):
gender who are showing up with him and taking this
message back.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
To their communities.

Speaker 31 (50:01):
Because this is going to pass, Roland, It's going to
pass the Supreme Court. And these Republican politicians have not
stopped Trump on anything. They've slowed them down here and there,
but they are going to give in and we have
to prepare for it.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Michael.

Speaker 9 (50:15):
The Louisiana Healthcare System is trying to let House Speaker
of Mike Johnson know this is an awful, awful bill.
They dropped a statement this is literally the entire Louisiana
healthcare system. You see all of these logos here, whereas
it's on behalf of Louisiana's hospitals and largest healthcare systems.

(50:35):
We come together as stewards of our community's health, and
we'll being together. We are unified in our concern over
the proposed cuts to Medicaid that are being debated in Congress.
These cuts will be historic in their devastation and warrant
our shared advocacy to protect our patients and the care
we provide them at our hospitals and clinics. They lay
out and the Steve cuts will force consolidation of services,

(50:58):
staffing reductions, closures, reducing healthcare access to everyone in our communities.
Our rural communities will especially feel the impact, as many
of these hospitals are already in difficult financial situations and
are likely to experience a significant reduction of services. The
potential impact will be felt by everyone in the state.

(51:19):
Now that's just the healthcare workers. You also have where
you have electrical workers, some eight hundred thousand electrical workers,
many of them who voted for Trump.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
They drafted this here.

Speaker 9 (51:32):
IBW International President Kenneth Cooper said, this Budget Reconciliation Bill
is a direct attack on working families, shoveling tax breaks
to the rich while turning his back on the people
who power this country. The IVEW strongly opposes any proposal
that guts infrastructure investment, especially plans like this one that

(51:54):
sacrifices existing economic development while providing no clear benefit to
working Americans at a time when we should be investing
in energy independence at home. This bill forces our economy
to rely on foreign adversaries, while dramatically increasing energy bills
for every household and draining local communities of the jobs
they rely on. What they're talking about right here, all

(52:16):
of those green economy, green jobs that are being slashed.
They are gutting electric vehicles, tax brakes for solar things
along those lines.

Speaker 10 (52:26):
IV E. W.

Speaker 9 (52:27):
Says, make no mistake, this bill will cost hundreds of
thousands of good pain construction jobs, billions of work hours,
and hundreds of billions of lost wages and economic benefits
to America's middle class. I'm sure a lot of those
white electrical workers voted for Trump now kicking themselves in
the butt, Michael. We tried to tell you, absolutely, we

(52:49):
tried to tell you.

Speaker 20 (52:50):
And and the urban area, the rural areas are going
to be hurt even more by this, like Louisiana, Okay,
the voting for Trump, former Confederate state. When we look
at Medicaid, for instance, the bill is estimated to cut
one trillion dollars from Medicaid by twenty thirty four.

Speaker 10 (53:13):
Okay.

Speaker 20 (53:14):
Now, it's also important to understand that there's about seventy
one seventy two million people in America are Medicaid. Twenty
percent of them are black. Okay, twenty percent of them
African Americans. When we look at you're going to have
cuts to snap okay, snap food assistance. Also, as whether

(53:34):
William Barber correctly stated, is estimated that fifty thousand people
are going to die per year because health care is
going to be taken away from them. Es the CBO,
the Congressional Budget Office, estimates that eleven point eight eleven
point eight million people will lose health care over you know,

(53:54):
by twenty thirty four. So this is horrific. I call
it the big ass ugly bill. Okay, this is horrific.
This shows the consequences of elections.

Speaker 6 (54:05):
But the other thing is Roland. So this is the
fiscal year budget.

Speaker 20 (54:11):
Have you heard anything about stimulus checks that some black
people said they.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Were voting for Trump for.

Speaker 20 (54:18):
I haven't heard anything about stimulus checks because I saw
interviews with with idiotic black people saying that they were
voting for Trump again because they wanted stimulus checks.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
There's nothing they hear about that.

Speaker 20 (54:30):
But what's in here is going to devastate the African
American community, but devastate America as a whole.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
We tried to tell you we did. Also let me go.

Speaker 9 (54:43):
At the building trade unions, they also have come out
against this bill as well North America's Building Trades union.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
This is from Sean McGarvey.

Speaker 9 (54:55):
The revised Senate draft released late last night is a
massive insult to the working men and women of North
America's building trades unions and all construction workers.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
This is not what they voted for.

Speaker 9 (55:07):
If inactive, this stands to be the biggest job killing
bill in the history of this country. Simply put, it
is the equivalent of terminating more than one thousand Keystone
Excel pipeline projects. In some cases, it works as the
already harmful trajectory of the House pass language, threatening and
estimated one point seventy five million construction jobs and over

(55:28):
three billion work hours, which translates to one hundred and
forty eight billion dollars in lost annual wages and benefits.
These are staggering and unfathomable job lost numbers, and the
bill throws yet another lifeline and competitive advantage to China
and the race for global energy dominance. Our three million
members are ready willing and able to build this country

(55:49):
into the world's undisputed energy superpower. But this bill takes
their jobs a weigh and undermines that mission. Well, guess what,
Larry said, This.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Is what we voted for. This is what you voted for.
I don't know what the hell all these people keep saying,
it is what you voted for.

Speaker 9 (56:06):
Now they are seeing the reality of what we kept
saying and what was going to happen if Donald Trump
got back into the Oval office.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Yeah, so people voted in November. They thought bad for
you and not for me.

Speaker 13 (56:21):
Yep, but they were they weren't listening or either misinformed.
But we all have to pay the toll. Now everyone's
going to have to pay the toll. You know, Roland interesting.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
About all this.

Speaker 13 (56:34):
We all talk about what the federal government does has
done and dramatically pulling back funding from various health and
disease in terms of research, et cetera. I don't think
people realize we're not headed for a or you know,
a recession. We had it for a depression over in

(56:54):
a couple of years.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Because what you have is you have.

Speaker 13 (56:56):
Literally we're not even talking about talking about all the
federal workers that were late lost jobs, but you're talking
about tens of thousands of jobs loss and health care,
higher education, building trades, et cetera. Over the next couple
of years. You combine that with dismantling the social safety net,
and you're talking about tremendous political, economic, social upheaval that

(57:17):
people haven't seen in generations. We thought that we had
a bad doing the Bush junior administration in terms of
those ark our economic times, it's going to be far worse.
So we're beyond the time of this idea of Republicans
being compassion to conservatives. Now it's each your own. And
you're right about people who voted, particularly like I said,
the labor unions. The Biden administration saved pensions and VP

(57:42):
Harris was deciding vote, and unfortunately, many of those individuals
who benefited or have family members benefited, didn't support her.
And once again, in terms of working class labor unions,
those well paying jobs, those jobs are going to disappear.
All these green energy jobs, all the infrastructure money that

(58:03):
you got from the Infrastructure Bill to build road ways
and high ways, et cetera. That money is going to
be gone. And then those jobs will be gone, people
won't have access to healthcare, they won't be able to
get you know, important services in terms.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Of medicaid, that will all disappear.

Speaker 13 (58:19):
So you combine that with a country who is dramatically
increasing the funding for ICE, it will make it literally
the largest, you know, in terms of you know, in
terms of what we do in terms of you know,
policing in the country. It'll make it larger than FBI
and some of these other entities we've known for decades.
So you have you combine that with ice and policing

(58:41):
and neighborhoods when we're seeing right now, that will only increase.
But the response to that will be concerning as a
violence that individuals will respond with when they see individuals
in their community they don't have anything to eat.

Speaker 10 (58:53):
Well, I don't.

Speaker 9 (58:53):
I don't you know, give a damn what he has
to say. I don't believe anything that he says. But
I guess was a little perturbed by what's going on here.
Oh my god, Elon Musk. So if you this is
what he sent out earlier today, I got a kick
out of this. Every member of Congress who campaigned on
reducing government spending and being immediately voted for the biggest

(59:17):
debt increase in history should hang their head in shame,
and they will lose their primary next year if it
is the last thing I do on this earth. Well,
we tried to tell you to, Elon, and all your
entire business is predicated on those clean energy green bill tax.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Cuts, and they're all about to go bye bye, so
om congo faffo twenty twenty five.

Speaker 31 (59:50):
Faffo twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
And people need to be really clear.

Speaker 31 (59:56):
This man only cares about any parts of this bill
that are going to affect Tesla and his other projects
period bottom line.

Speaker 6 (01:00:02):
So when people are.

Speaker 31 (01:00:03):
Talking about, oh, even Elon Musk is mad about the debt, like,
we are not that stupid over here.

Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
We know exactly what he's about.

Speaker 31 (01:00:10):
And so I get a little bit annoyed when I
see all of these Democrats quoting him, even saying things like,
even Elon Musk, I'm agreeing with Elon Musk. The dude
has always been shady with everything and only cares about himself,
and that's why. But nobody wants to call him out
the way we call him out here and he's gonna
say something tomorrow or the next week, and then what
is it going to be. Is he going to say

(01:00:30):
I'm gonna start funding Democrats campaigns? Democrats gonna start taking
his money. They're already pushing people aside, like Jasmine Crockett
and they're like, so what the hell are they going
to be doing next. I'm afraid about some of these
shady alliances that are going to be made, but Elon
Musk with the Democratic Party shouldn't be worth a grain
of salt. And when he puts out these particular types
of comments about oh, I'm gonna make sure people don't

(01:00:51):
get reelected and so on and so forth, he's only
going to put people in interests who are going to
go there and make sure that his interests are protected,
not the interests of the American peace people.

Speaker 6 (01:01:00):
This man has been.

Speaker 31 (01:01:01):
Part and parcel to the destruction of American society through
his fake department and through Trump giving him access to
pretty much everything. And he's part of our downfall as well,
and he can't escape that smoke.

Speaker 9 (01:01:12):
This is a piece that was written in May and
it says the headline is ten Sneaky Sleeper provisions in
Trump's big beautiful bill, it said, Yet more horrors are
hitting in the fine print and when they went into it,
crippling courts, the bill will actually prohibit any funds from

(01:01:34):
being used to carry out court orders holding Executive branch
officials in contempt. So they want to gut the power
of the federal courts. Bonus for tax prep industry. Of course,
they're going to get rid of E file, and they
want to whack E file, which is available to taxpayers
in twenty five states because the tax prep industry hated

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losing billions of dollars.

Speaker 10 (01:02:00):
Guess what.

Speaker 9 (01:02:00):
The bill adds forty five billion to build immigration jails.
They're going to spend Samuel sing Goadway posted this. They're
going to spend more money in this bill than what's
spent in the nineteen ninety four crime bill. Y'all better
recognize what's going on. They are allowing determination of the

(01:02:22):
tax status of nonprofits if they define them as terrorists
supporting organizations. Huh, they gonna snap that on everybody. They're
gonna block states from regulating AI for a ten year period.
So what happened to states' rights? Gutting the estate tax,
weakening the child tax, tax credit, expanding school vouchers again,

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cuts to Affordable Care Act, and support.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
For gun silencers.

Speaker 9 (01:02:50):
So it's so much crap in this bill that's just insane.
When you begin to break, break you down, Michael, and again,
folks don't pay any attention and the numbers don't lie.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
So what should be happening.

Speaker 9 (01:03:02):
Folks should be blowing up the phones of United States
senators saying, vote you vote for this, especially those red
state senators who are up for reelection. We're gonna kick
your ass at the ballot.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Box next year.

Speaker 20 (01:03:17):
Absolutely, And you know, I think it was the doctor
he just talked about. Doctor Larry mentioned the pension dollars
Biden Harris interjecting thirty six billion dollars to save pensions
for UAW.

Speaker 6 (01:03:37):
For the UAW employees.

Speaker 20 (01:03:39):
Out of worker employees, it was three hundred and fifty
thousand out of employees had their pension saved because of
the Biden Harris administration. When you deal with some of
those things that are hidden in this big ass ugly bill,
you're absolutely correct. I've been seeing information about this one
trying to weaken the court. This deals with straight out

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of Project twenty twenty five. And the Unitarian executive theory
and trying to take more power away from the courts
and give it to the president. And then also you
talk about the forty five billion dollars to build privatized prisons.

Speaker 6 (01:04:20):
People have to understand cour.

Speaker 20 (01:04:22):
Civic and Jail Group to the largest owner operators of
privatized prisons in the country. They supported Trump in twenty sixteen,
and they supported Trump again in twenty twenty four. Okay,
and you have where some of these migrants are being housed,

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are in privatized prisons owned by these corporations.

Speaker 10 (01:04:46):
Okay.

Speaker 20 (01:04:46):
Now, Donald Trump signed an executive order to unleash the police.
We know that his Department of Justice has backed out
of consent decrease with the Ferguson Police Department and also
in Saint Louis, Missouri, things like this. We know again
they're taking the hands off approach to policing. So you're

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going to unleash the police, You're going to build more
privatized prisons. Okay, And now who you think they're gonna
put in there? See, this is this is an all
out attack on melanated people. And as as I said
a few days ago on my social media platforms, white
supreme see and racism attacks all black people, regardless of

(01:05:33):
country or origin, regardless of regardless of language spoken, regardless
of your religion. Okay, so some African Americans, some black
people think it's all right as long as black immigrants
are being attacked and locked up. No, they're coming for
your ass. Also because a lot of us, you can't tell.
For a lot of us, some of us look like

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we could be immigrants. But to white supremeist, white nationalists
and the Trump administration, all black people are in they
don't think any of us belong.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
Well.

Speaker 9 (01:06:04):
Absolutely, and so the reality is, folks, what you are seeing,
you're seeing uh a huge debate uh that take place
in this country.

Speaker 23 (01:06:16):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:06:16):
And what we have to understand right now? What's going
on here? And if there's one person who you know
what I'm so sick of, I'm so sick of this
man because frankly, uh, he's lazy as hell. And that's
Democratic Senator from Pennsylvania, John Fetterman. Okay, this is literally

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what he let me explain everybout it. This man gets
paid to be a United States senator. He complained earlier
this week that he was he was they basically dogged
him out so much he had to come back and
at tend committee hearings and do votes that he felt
were irrelevant. Now he's why about what's happening right now

(01:07:02):
with a debate going on.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
I want y'all listen to this. Listen to this.

Speaker 9 (01:07:06):
Did you get any clues on the floor about what
time do you?

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:07:11):
My god, I just want to go home.

Speaker 32 (01:07:12):
I've already I've missed our entire trip to.

Speaker 10 (01:07:17):
The beach.

Speaker 32 (01:07:17):
My family is going to be back before we so
and again I'm going to vote. No, there's no drama.
The votes are going to go. In fact, the only
interesting votes are going to be on the margin, whether
that's Collins or Johnson and those but all the Democrats,
we all know how that's going to go. And I
think I don't think it's really helpful to put people

(01:07:39):
here to when someone godly or in Again, thank you sir, thanks.

Speaker 9 (01:07:45):
You can't go to the beach with your family, okay.
And one is the margins. How about you stay there
and you work on them, You talk to them, you
push them, you pride them.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
But here's this is just very simple.

Speaker 9 (01:08:01):
I mean, I don't really care Larry if John Fetterman
doesn't want to do the job at a United States.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Center, then resign.

Speaker 9 (01:08:08):
Then resign and let somebody who actually wants to show
up for work.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
And men, god, I've already missed my family beach trip.

Speaker 30 (01:08:16):
This is just this is just so rad What to do?
I just I mean, we're just here. It's just wasting time.
I mean, like, I just want to go. I just
want to go to the beach.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Sounds like a spoiled ass brat.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
So Roland, I have a really I have a serious problem.

Speaker 13 (01:08:36):
First one, I'm a former I'm from the common with
a Pennsylvania and black folks try to tell other people
in the state of Pennsylvania before the election, and.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
They voted Man that he that it was a bad idea.
So that's one.

Speaker 13 (01:08:47):
Secondly, I got to tell you, Roland, as a former
congressional staffer, to spend so many hours working on minute
language and stuck on weekends working on working on bills
and ends, I have a problem with someone who's getting
paid and it's only one of one hundred individuals in
this country to hold the kind of power he does

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as a US Senator.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
So listen, and I have a problem. He's his casual.

Speaker 13 (01:09:13):
He just casual, not only casual appearance, but how casually
he just says these things like he doesn't represent an
entire state. So listen, he needs to get it together.
This is the job you ran for office. You want
a primary and then you want a general election, and
then you're rolling your right. If he doesn't want to
be a US centator, he can simply resign and let
Shapiro you know, fill that seat and then set a

(01:09:34):
date for a new election. And the people, my family members, etc.
Deserve someone who's more invested in the state and the
needs of Pennsylvanians and Americans overall.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
But listen, I don't want to hear that.

Speaker 13 (01:09:46):
Like I said, they're far too many US Senators and
once again, my fellow, you know staffers who are spending
hours working on this bill, working on all the details
that don't get to go home, miss birthdays, holidays, etc.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
So he has the power to.

Speaker 13 (01:10:02):
Just jump to have you know, show for you know,
drop him an hour hour and a half away from
wherever he is in Pennsylvania or Delaware, et cetera, Jersey
to go to the beach.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
So he needs to get over himself.

Speaker 13 (01:10:11):
He needs to do the job of US senator, what
he's getting paid for, and if ninety step.

Speaker 9 (01:10:15):
Aside absolutely our folks hotel. One second, I gotta go
to a break.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Be right back. Rolling Unfiltered on the black Stun.

Speaker 15 (01:10:21):
Network this week, on the other side of change in
mass incarceration, Trump administration is doubling down on criminalization and
how it is profitable.

Speaker 33 (01:10:33):
And there's something really really perverse about saying that we
need to put people in cages in order for other
people to have jobs Like that is not how our
economy should be built.

Speaker 28 (01:10:42):
Only on the other side of change on the Blackstar Network.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
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Speaker 10 (01:11:02):
And I'm with Roland Martin on Unfiltered.

Speaker 9 (01:11:34):
Hashtag we try to tell you, remember when the Trump
people were saying, oh, no, we're only going after the illegals.
Guess what they now want to go after people who
are already US citizens. A new Justice Department memo reveals
that federal attorneys have been instructed to prioritize de naturalization

(01:11:58):
cases targeting actual lie citizens accused of offenses such as fraud,
national security violations, or even errors on all immigration forms.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
As we're talking up to twenty.

Speaker 9 (01:12:10):
Five million Americans who were born abroad now facing the
possibility of losing their citizenship and.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Being deported to wherever.

Speaker 9 (01:12:20):
Now, these aren't criminal trials, which means there's no guarantee
to a lawyer and the government doesn't have to meet
the same high burden of proof. Now they're even I
think Carolyn Levitt even made this comment. They even are saying, well,
you know what, hey, I think. And we remember Andy
Ogle's Congress from Arizona, that racist. Remember he tweeted last

(01:12:43):
week that the United States should go after Zoring Mam
Done of course, who was the Democratic primary for the
New York City mayor and take his citizenship. Hello, did

(01:13:03):
I not tell y'all in my book White thea what
was going on here? That the great replacement theory and
all this?

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Didn't I tell y'all what these people? Y'all? This is
the book.

Speaker 9 (01:13:17):
The cover of the book is a photo of a
white man on January sixth, twenty twenty one.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
And this is me saying the capture is all of
this is ours. He's arms, all this is ours.

Speaker 9 (01:13:31):
They cannot stand black or brown people. That's what's going
on here. And folks who have been.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Sitting around, Uh, well, I well, I think you're wrong. No, No,
I'm telling y'all.

Speaker 9 (01:13:51):
If you want to think the worst of these people,
do so, because that's what they're doing. They are executing
a playback that they made clear. And Michael the leader,
Stephen Miller, that violent white nationalist who's driving this whole strategy.

Speaker 20 (01:14:16):
And Stephen Miller was then Trump's first administration, He's deputy
chief of staff again. Stephen Miller has he's the one
who crafted the the attack on the immigrants as well
cracking down on them.

Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
The report came.

Speaker 20 (01:14:35):
Out that in May he told ICE that they security
that they had to increase the number of people arrested,
the three thousand per day, something crazy like this. Okay,
And what African Americans have to understand is that they're
coming for all of us, okay. And unfortunately many of

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us think that our proximity way supremacy protects us from
white supremacy.

Speaker 10 (01:15:02):
No, no, it does not.

Speaker 5 (01:15:03):
This is about the fear of the browning of America,
and we.

Speaker 20 (01:15:06):
See this increasing day after day, and then when you
read the speech from the Guardian, this is intensifying it.
Trump's Justice Department issues directed to strip naturalize Americans a
citizenship for criminal offenses. This makes it easier to to
do this and and deport them, send them to prisons

(01:15:27):
to a third country as well. All and what happens
if you if you study Nazi Germany, Adolf Hidler. In
the Nazis, they targeted marginalized groups. They targeted uh, the disabled,
disabled people, they target lgbt L t B, lgbt Q,
they targeted Afro Germans. You go after small marginalized groups

(01:15:52):
first and test certain methods out, then you expand that
to other groups.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
This is what's taking place right now.

Speaker 6 (01:15:59):
This is just straight out of Project twenty twenty five.

Speaker 9 (01:16:04):
Of course, and that's their playbook, that's what they're running.
And I'm telling I don't know. I mean, here's the
thing here, here's the thing here. People are not getting.
And Bill Morris just died. Bill Moyers, of course, he
worked for President Lyndon Vane Johnson, and he also was

(01:16:26):
a reporter and Larry we as a result of his work,
we now have that quote from LBJ when he talked
about the poor and we talked when he talked about
the poor white men, and that quote is important because

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we're seeing it play out right now. We're seeing how
these people think, We're seeing how their brains operate. And
what LBJ said was, if you can convince the lowest
white man he's better than the best colored man, he

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won't notice you're picking his pocket. He'll give him somebody
to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
That is what Republicans are executing, the strategy. They're executing
that right now.

Speaker 9 (01:17:23):
And these folks in rule America, y'all about to get screwed.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
Yeah, reckoning is coming.

Speaker 13 (01:17:32):
And as relates to that particular quote, you know, there's
a lot of talk about the project twenty twenty five
and by the Heretag Foundation lasts several months leading to election.
People the current president of all the people denying know, Hey,
I don't know what you're talking about. Look over here,
like the Wizard of Oz, right, look over here. Why
you know, I distract you with something else that's going
over here, And you know, you know their pockets are

(01:17:54):
about to be picked. You voted for your own destruction,
which you know, it's really consistent we've seen over the
last several, you know, decades in terms of voting patterns,
particularly for white males. So, but it's one of these
situations in my colleague talked about US history, is that
this country has a tendency not to learn from his

(01:18:17):
own mistakes.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
So let me give you an.

Speaker 13 (01:18:20):
Example, which Mandela talk about the fourteenth Amendment. People figet
about Japanese and tournament camps, and so we talk about
this issue relating to denaturalizations and the essentially kind of
erasure of minoritized groups. Goes his idea that as long
as white males in particular feel like they are, you know,

(01:18:40):
no matter your educational background, et cetera, that they have
that you know, they are better off in some way
than you are, then they're fine with that. But they
missed the point of when Trump, in terms of how
he's fould bankruptcy multiple times, he's not paid laborers in
New Jersey and other states over the over series of decades.

(01:19:03):
He doesn't care about the average working person, and that's
reflected in the policies you see in this reconciliation bill,
which will devastate the middle class. No, if you're a
member of the middle class, or particularly if you're not
from an underserved community, you can forget about it, because
once again this is this is robbing from the poor
given to the rich, and so many people in particularly

(01:19:24):
those in white, rural underserved communities, are going to suffer
along the rest of us. And by the time they
look up and realize their snap benef it's of taking
the hospitals to close, it's going to be too late
because the Republicans are making it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Clear that this bill is going to bet.

Speaker 13 (01:19:38):
My colleagues say, this bill is going to become long
some form of fashion. But the bottom line is it's
too late that the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Dye is said, and now we all have to pay.

Speaker 11 (01:19:51):
See.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
So I want people to understand how the racists think.

Speaker 9 (01:19:57):
What did I just say about that LBJ common So
you take Tommy Tupperville, now States Center, dumbass.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
Form a football coach, also of course now running for governor.

Speaker 9 (01:20:13):
So he goes on this right wing show, this guy
Bennie Johnson, and I want y'all listen to what he says.
But I want y'all to use I want y'all to
listen to how the word inner city is being used.
Inner city, Listen to the house being used.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
I wonder who Tommy's talking about when he uses this phrase.

Speaker 10 (01:20:39):
Listen.

Speaker 34 (01:20:42):
Yeah, you know, I've spoken several times with Tom Holman,
who is basically running the inner city ice programs, and
you know, he told me, he said, he's been pushed
at every corner when he goes.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
These big, big cities.

Speaker 34 (01:20:54):
I'm sure if you get a mayor like this that
takes over, it'll even be And that's when you can
You can stop the federal funding.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
You can do anything. President Trump can do anything.

Speaker 34 (01:21:04):
And once when it comes to the federal again, these
these inner city rats, they live off the federal government
and that's one reason we're thirty seven trillion dollars in debt.
And it's time that we find these rats and we
send them back home that are living off the American
taxpayers that are working very hard every week to pay taxes.

Speaker 24 (01:21:22):
Yes, allow me to run that back again.

Speaker 10 (01:21:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 34 (01:21:36):
You know, I've spoken several times with Tom Holman, who
is basically running the inner city ice programs, and you
know he told me, he said, he's been pushed at
every corner. When he goes these big cities. I'm sure
if you get a mayor like this that takes over,
it'll even be worse. And that's when you can you
can stop the federal funding.

Speaker 10 (01:21:56):
You can do anything.

Speaker 34 (01:21:57):
President Trump can do anything. And once when it comes
to the federal again, these inner city rats, they live
off the federal government. And that's one reason we're thirty
seven trillion dollars in debt. And it's time that we
find these rats and we send them back home that
are living off the American taxpayers that are working very
hard every week to pay taxes.

Speaker 35 (01:22:15):
Yes, really, Tommy, Tommy, did you just sit here and
declare that in the city of rats living off of

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the federal government. Did you just sit here, Tommy and
talk about who's sucking up federal funds?

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
Is that what you just did, Tommy? Yes, he did
to Tommy.

Speaker 25 (01:23:00):
Have you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Have you ever looked at your state?

Speaker 29 (01:23:09):
See?

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
I mean when somebody says that, when somebody says somebody says,
you know how you.

Speaker 36 (01:23:21):
Taking money, what you're doing, you might want to grab
a mirror, Tommy. Do y'all know that one of the most.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
I'm gonna use Tommy's language.

Speaker 9 (01:23:39):
Rat infested states in America's Alabama. And if you go
on my IPEd, federal transfers to Alabama governments. Now, y'all,
this is twenty seventeen to twenty twenty two.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
H Will you look at that you see twenty.

Speaker 9 (01:24:07):
Seventeen, slightly, hire in twenty eighteen, hiring twenty nineteen, hiring
twenty twenty, hiring twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Twenty one, hire in two thousand twenty two.

Speaker 29 (01:24:28):
Wow, Timmy, your own state sucks up so much federal money.

Speaker 9 (01:24:42):
This here, y'all, is from March tenth, twenty twenty five,
from the Alabama Policy Institute, headline, Alabama must limit dependence
on the federal government. So when you go through this

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break down here, huh. Alabama is consistently ranked as one
of the most federally dependent states.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
In the nation. Rats, rural rats.

Speaker 9 (01:25:24):
According to data from USA Spending dot gov, Alabama received
over sixty six billion.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
Dollars in federal funding last year.

Speaker 9 (01:25:36):
This includes over thirty six billion and direct payments to
Alabama ins, seventeen point three billion in contracts awarded within
the state, and nearly thirteen billion in grant awards to
state agencies. In twenty twenty four, a loan grant awards
accounted for nearly thirty two percent of all of Alabama
state government revenues.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
The Alabama Medicaid Agency received more.

Speaker 9 (01:25:58):
Than six point four billion dollars from the federal government,
or the state Department Transportation Department of Education, each receiving
more than one point two billion in federal grants. One
problem with being so heavily reliant on the federal government
is that state funding may shift.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
State funding may shift based.

Speaker 9 (01:26:17):
On the priorities of one presidential administration to the nothing. Moreover,
though there's a perception that federal dollars are free money,
they are not. Each dollar that the federal government sends
back to state and local governments in the form of
direct payments, grants, etc. Represent tax payer dollars that hard

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working Alabamians have paid to the treasury. Federal money also
always comes with strings attached.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
There are civil reacing examples of this.

Speaker 9 (01:26:49):
Timing Your broke ast state desperately needs federal money. You
trying to talk about they and astatic rats. They sat
and had tacking federal violence. The taxpayers the hard earned money,
and they we need to send them back.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
Well, where were gonna send y'all asses to.

Speaker 9 (01:27:18):
Tell them, Timmy, where we're gonna send all them broke
ast white people in Alabama.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
Who are mooching off the federal government.

Speaker 24 (01:27:31):
Tommy.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
See, y'all, this is the hipocrisy. Do y'all now understand
why I keep saying.

Speaker 9 (01:27:46):
That Democrats should have the courage to go to the brokest, sickest,
whitest reddest states in America and go there and tell them,
y'all are the brokest, sickest, whitest, reddest people in the
country and literally read stuff like this to them. Because see, y'all,

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here's the problem. Tymy Tebaville, who don't even live in Alabama.
His ass live in Florida. That's another story. See when
they recite this stuff, that's right, Timing. You tell them,
You tell them, Timmy, Timmy, you right, all of them rats,
they sitting here living.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
Off our hard earned dollars.

Speaker 9 (01:28:33):
They out there, we busted our bus to pay our taxes.
And them inner city rats them, inner city them, inner
city minie brown them, inner city meaning black them, inner
city rats. All they do is take our money, take
our money. No, it's still broke ast white people in Alabama.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
In Mississippi and Tennessee in.

Speaker 9 (01:28:54):
Arkansas, and South Carolina and West Virginia who've been sucking
up federal dollars, but they never seen to call them rats.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
Did not hear the coded language in this on the congo.

Speaker 31 (01:29:21):
I mean, that's why my next book is actually going
to be called trigger words, and it looks at how
leeds leaders and so called leaders use language to sew
the vision and keep people at each other, chomping at
each other's bits because of this coded language. I hadn't
heard this video, and so I thought when it started
playing that the only trigger word that you were talking
about was going to be inner city. But then he

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went straight to rats and mentioned them multiple times. And
he also gave us something here that the blueprint that
this goes somebody. What I was saying in the last segment.
The blueprint that they are using is like we're using
our own streaming networks, our own podcasts, our own quote
fake news networks like Fox to get the message out.
And so he said, Tom Hollman is running our inner

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City program, and that's what all of those guys in
Royal America are going to be hearing. All of those
guys in red states are going to be hearing. They're
not going to be hearing the facts that you just
laid out, or the fact that states like California and
New York basically carry states like Alabama and Mississippi, and
they're like, they're not gonna hear.

Speaker 6 (01:30:20):
Any of that.

Speaker 31 (01:30:21):
And this is one of the reasons why in this
ugly bill, they're looking at having carve outs for rural
hospitals that are going to close without this particular type
of assistance. But those folks out in Royal America aren't
hearing that as well. The arrogance of this man who
built his whole career off of black players from the
inner city to be able to get out there and
basically call people in those communities' rats, to use these

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words to help these sugar works, to help build up
his own persona, and this ugly bill, this should tell
everybody everything. But too many people who don't watch people
like Tobero don't know that this language is being put
out there so blatantly and so arrogantly and so racistly.
And so I'm so glad that you put it out
there for us to see, because they've taken everything off

(01:31:03):
following Steven Miller's leave following Trump's leave, they feel like
they can be as racist and ignorant as what they
want to be, and use as most coded, as much
coded and trigger language as possible. It's all lies, but
they feel like it's working to help them with their base.
Who's about to find out.

Speaker 9 (01:31:18):
You've got to be a pretty damn arrogant fool, Larry
to whine about folks spending federal money when your state
is the sixth most sucking up state in America.

Speaker 13 (01:31:38):
Well, Roland, it goes to my point earlier when I
use the Wizard of Oz as an example. You know, listen,
they've created an ecosystem in which they use, you know,
racist stereotypes of the six sted for years and constantly
feed people imagery, you know, wording to reinforce these ideas.

(01:32:00):
Their parents' grandparents are now somebody. Many of these voters
believe that they're being robbed or something. But what we're
being robbed of is our humanity. That's what's really happening here.
And listen, the words he used are not surprising because
this is the same language has been used for centuries,
you know, particularly when it comes to people of African
descent to dehumanize us. And so when you connect that

(01:32:24):
with the dramatic cut and federal funding grants, you know,
empowering ice and we're seeing increasingly in minoritized communities, and
it was going to the minoritized community. And now we
know Temper was running for governor, so he shifted from
senator governor even though he wasn't even quite not qualified
for each of either. And like you say, he's more
of a Florida resident than he's an Alabama resident. But

(01:32:45):
once again, when you have when you got a certain background,
those things are ignored and he can use language like
that and not.

Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
Be called out by it.

Speaker 13 (01:32:54):
I haven't seen any I don't know if any local
papers in the state of Alabama have called him out
for the explicity this language we use. And obviously we're
talking about in this platform, but I heard about it
before you talked about it. But this should be a
national story. But Tuberville doesn't care because he thinks that
he won't there's not a price to pay, and I
think that's what's really important here in Alabama has a

(01:33:16):
large black population. But even with that said, he doesn't
think there's a political price to pay even though he
wants to continue. Is he has political aspirations. So the
question really is is why is Tuberville people like tub
able to get away with making things like that. What
does it mean for America? And also to your point
about how Alabama and some other states are, Mississippi are

(01:33:38):
far more dependent on the federal government. They give, they
take more than they give. What does it mean when
this reconciliation bill passes and they find that over the
next two to three years that they don't have the
funding that they needed, and a lot of programs, you know, universities,
et cetera, prey the price.

Speaker 9 (01:33:54):
Well, it's just hilarious to me listening to these fools,
how shameful despicable they are. How they're sitting here talking
about federal spending deficits, who's spending money when it's these
white conservatives who are who are just sucking up federal

(01:34:17):
money and they they about to learn if this bill passes,
you you are about to see some maga tears. They're
gonna be crying more than them all the Latinos, Cubans,
Venezuelans who voted for Trump and now they husbands and
wives and cousins and friends are getting deported what we

(01:34:39):
voted for, Yes, it is.

Speaker 20 (01:34:43):
Yeah, what happened was they just thought other people were
going to be hurt. Okay, they didn't care, you know,
it's all about the cruelty. But they thought the cruelty
was going to be against somebody else.

Speaker 10 (01:34:54):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:34:54):
So what we have to understand is that that's that's
very racist.

Speaker 20 (01:34:59):
Loaded wording that Tommy Tuberville used, because rats are vermins,
and rats and vermins are our pests.

Speaker 5 (01:35:09):
That are undesirable.

Speaker 20 (01:35:11):
Okay, they produce rapidly, they damage property, they carry diseases,
things of this nature.

Speaker 9 (01:35:18):
So now he's so all the same stuff Trump said
about undocumented folk coming in America.

Speaker 10 (01:35:27):
Yep.

Speaker 20 (01:35:27):
So so now what he's saying is is he says
Tom Holman, who also wrote part of Project twenty twenty five,
and it's.

Speaker 10 (01:35:36):
Trump's borders are he's saying.

Speaker 20 (01:35:37):
Now, Tom Holman, can you know going to these inner cities,
round these people up, et cetera, lock them up. Okay,
this is this is the playbook. Now when you combine
that with unleashing the police, okay, and you go and
you I'm telling you right now, you're about to hear
stories of black people who are US citizens who unjustly

(01:36:00):
get arrested because.

Speaker 6 (01:36:03):
ICE thinks they are undocumented immigrants.

Speaker 10 (01:36:06):
Because you have.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
People that live in mixed status homes, nobody wants to
talk about that.

Speaker 20 (01:36:10):
You have people who live in mixed status homes where
some people are US citizens and other people are documented immigrants. Okay,
so this is about to get really ugly. But Alabama
has a fifteen percent poverty rate. Okay, and yes, you
are correct. They take more in federal funding than they

(01:36:30):
actually contribute in federal taxes, as do a lot of
these former Confederate states.

Speaker 10 (01:36:36):
Okay, so things are about.

Speaker 20 (01:36:38):
To get really really ugly in this country, especially for Marga,
especially for Trump supporters hashtag.

Speaker 9 (01:36:44):
We tried to tell you, well, folks are going to
learn and we come back. It's an amazing how these
people talk about how we should.

Speaker 24 (01:36:55):
Be changing the rules.

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
Man, the follow rules.

Speaker 9 (01:37:01):
We should be deporting all of Donald Trump's children, well
except one one.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
He don't like Tiffany. Hermama and daddy are from here.
All r y'all.

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Speaker 16 (01:38:25):
Back in the moment, Hi, I'm Doctor Jackie of A
Balanced Life. Think about the men in your life and
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Who can they turn to you for advice to learn
about what manhood is all about. On our next show,
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(01:38:48):
men of all ages. Actor Dendre Whitfield leads an all
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That's on the next A Balance Life with Doctor Jackie
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Speaker 15 (01:39:05):
This week, on the other side of Change, the mass
incarceration Trump administration is doubling down on criminalization and how
it is profitable.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
And there's something really really.

Speaker 33 (01:39:14):
Perverse about saying that we need to put people in
cages in order for other people to have jobs Like
that is not how our economy should be built.

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Only on the other side of Change on the Blackstar Network.

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Next, on the Black Table with Me Greg car a
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that are a part of our history and the June
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Speaker 17 (01:39:46):
So it's our responsibility to return the healthier version to
our folks instead of just the red liqueurs marketed to us,
the red sodas and the other things.

Speaker 32 (01:39:55):
I mean, why does the kool aid man have to
sound like Louis Armstrong?

Speaker 6 (01:39:59):
So I'm going.

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An enlightening and tasty out of the Black Table, only
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Black Star Network.

Speaker 17 (01:40:11):
On the next Get Wealthy with Me, Deborah Owen's America's
Wealth Coach. Less than five percent of the top executive
positions in corporate America are held by women of color.
We know it's not because of talent. A recent study
says that it's micro expressions, unconscious biased and limited opportunities

(01:40:36):
being offered to women of color. On our next show,
We're going to get incredible advice from Francine Parham, who's
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do to make it up into the management ranks and
get the earnings that you deserve.

Speaker 7 (01:40:55):
I made a point to sit down, and I made
a point to talk to people need a point to.

Speaker 17 (01:41:01):
Be very purposeful and thought provoking when I spoke to them.
That's right here on Get Wealthy only on Blackstar Network.

Speaker 10 (01:41:12):
Hey, what's up? Geekto in a place that he got
kicked out of Mama's University creator.

Speaker 36 (01:41:17):
And they could producing a fat Tuesday's Area hip hop comedy.

Speaker 30 (01:41:20):
But right now I'm.

Speaker 14 (01:41:21):
Rolling with Roland Martin, unfiltered, uncutting, unplugged, and undamned believable him.

Speaker 12 (01:41:36):
No.

Speaker 9 (01:41:37):
Uh, Donald Trump loves to attack of people who ain't
from here and want to send people back. But if
we're gonna talk about chain migration, shouldn't we be talking
about his own damn family. He's called for an end
of this decades old policy, but m that means that
all your people gotta go, including Millennia's Trump's parents.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
Yep, yep, They've been a from the var system he
wants to dismantle.

Speaker 9 (01:42:03):
So author Don Winslow put together this wonderful video that
lays it bear.

Speaker 5 (01:42:12):
Don Winslow explains how it really works.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
The end Jane Migration, Ending Jane Migration, Shane Shane Migration
Shane Migration.

Speaker 37 (01:42:21):
At the same time Donald Trump was spewing all this hate,
he was using a high powered lawyer and Shane Migration
to bring his wife Malania's mother, father, and sister to
the United States where his money.

Speaker 5 (01:42:31):
But the citizenship.

Speaker 6 (01:42:32):
Citizenship was just awarded to victim and my.

Speaker 5 (01:42:37):
Ca nowson, here's how it works.

Speaker 37 (01:42:39):
At the same time, plagiarizing plastic first Lady Milannia Trump
had kids.

Speaker 5 (01:42:43):
Pulled from their cages for this stage photo op.

Speaker 37 (01:42:45):
Her family was living lavishly in the United States under
permanent resident status.

Speaker 5 (01:42:49):
But that's mainly just for rich white people.

Speaker 37 (01:42:51):
If you're Mexican, you don't get to live in a
fancy New York apartment while you wait.

Speaker 5 (01:42:55):
Donald Trump makes you wait in a cage.

Speaker 37 (01:42:57):
The world's most successful liar couldn't have his future wife
in the United States legally, so he spent the big
bucks to get Milania and Einstein visa.

Speaker 18 (01:43:05):
Don't you think in any way that it's hypocritical that
his wife got to stay in the country with an
eb one visa, the so called Einstein visa, Oh, Stephen anophysics.

Speaker 5 (01:43:13):
Now, the eb one is reserved for immigrants with extraordinary ability.

Speaker 37 (01:43:17):
And when you think of extraordinary ability, you don't exactly
think of Milania.

Speaker 5 (01:43:22):
But Trump didn't care. He just wanted it done.

Speaker 37 (01:43:24):
Meet Michael Wilds, the high power lawyer who helped secure
US citizenship for Malania Trump and her parents Victor in
amiac Nott, and a green card for her sister in
es See. When Milania became a citizen in two thousand
and six, it gave her the right to sponsor her.

Speaker 5 (01:43:37):
Parents and sisters, hence the name chane migration.

Speaker 37 (01:43:41):
Trump destroyed families and sold a closed border policy to
his face while using chain migration to bring in his
own family. At the same time, the Department of Homeland
Security were ripping children from their mother's.

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
Arms and locking them in cages.

Speaker 37 (01:43:52):
Alania's family was walking out of court with a personal
security escort of Department of Homeland Security officers.

Speaker 5 (01:43:58):
Note the patches on the uniform.

Speaker 37 (01:44:00):
Trump has one policy for white people and another for
brown I met.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
With the border patrol agents and are they doing a
great job?

Speaker 5 (01:44:08):
Okay, stop the music.

Speaker 37 (01:44:10):
There are still thousands of children locked up in Trump's
border prisons. There are children that have not seen their
parents in years. How long can Trump keep them in prison?
Do they get out when they're eighteen. Do they spend
their entire childhood in a cage?

Speaker 5 (01:44:24):
Do they ever get out? Do they ever get out?

Speaker 9 (01:44:32):
Ain't that something one rule for them and one rule
for everybody else?

Speaker 13 (01:44:39):
Larry, Yeah, people fall for this immigration forty two fake
out right, this idea that you know, you heard them,
you know Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
Missuy talk about, you know, we're going off with any
people who are criminals, et cetera.

Speaker 13 (01:44:53):
At A lot of folks bought there's some folks that
bought intoday and guess what it was a lie. This
this what you just showed in the last few minutes
highlights how rich people who are primarily white benefit from,
you know, using immigration to make sure they take care
of their own people in the meantime. You know, you know,

(01:45:14):
if you're on your colleague highlights some people in these
families with mixed you know, backgrounds as it relates to
your immigration status, you may have voted with the idea
that they're just going after bad people. We see it
this in Florida with really hundreds of thousands of people
would likely be deported over the next couple of years,
and their family members falling for the idea that hey,

(01:45:38):
we're only going after the bad people. And you know,
we believe in the way the systems supposed to work.
No guess what you felt for now, your grandmother or
your father.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
We've seen these.

Speaker 13 (01:45:48):
A lot of these stories are now have been or
will be deported in the future, and there's nothing to
do about it because you helped, you voted this, You
voted for this, and so like I said that, what
you showed the last few minutes shows hypocrisy of our
system and also shows that you know what was saying
that cash rules everything around me. Cream get the money,

(01:46:09):
dal del bill yall, that's how it always works in America.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
Cream rules, right, So if you have the cash, you
can make the dream happen. And this isn't a great
example on the Congo.

Speaker 31 (01:46:20):
Look, I think it's also important to pay attention to
the hypocrisy of Trump talking about he's getting rid of
the worst of the worst, but he's actually going after
people who are.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Working regular jobs.

Speaker 10 (01:46:30):
Right.

Speaker 31 (01:46:30):
But it just came out today or in the last
couple of days that he's actually making deals with MS
thirteen members and releasing them from prison, some to send
to Bouquet. And he's also released the DJ just released
three time felon Jose Ramon Hernandez raised from federal prison
and transferred him to a halfway house to use him
in testimony against Kilmar Brego Garcia.

Speaker 10 (01:46:51):
So he's not only not.

Speaker 31 (01:46:53):
Catching the quote unquote worst people, he's releasing them.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
Well.

Speaker 31 (01:46:58):
So everything he's doing from the people who have the
least influence to the people at the higher levels with
the Milania Trumps of the world.

Speaker 6 (01:47:04):
It's all hypocrisy.

Speaker 31 (01:47:06):
It's all the rules, and people just don't care white
folks in these rural areas because he's giving them the
red meat that they need, which is the deployed, the
deporting and the grabbing up of brown and black people
now coming for Haitians as well on the streets and
they got their popcorn out.

Speaker 6 (01:47:21):
They're being entertained by that.

Speaker 31 (01:47:23):
They're not seeing how he is doing exactly what LBJ said,
giving them someone to look down on, so to empty
their pockets, and their pockets are their love and their influence.

Speaker 13 (01:47:32):
For this man.

Speaker 31 (01:47:34):
It's a complete rules, a complete hustle, and they are
at one point I Am going to realize that they're
being hustled. But right now he's winning with them and
that's all that matters with him.

Speaker 20 (01:47:42):
Michael, Yeah, Ungle's absolutely correct. New York Times has the
story from the day Trump's task force seeks to drop
some MS thirteen cases while pursuing a breakover Guardia. And
you know, just a few days ago represent the ass
mc crockett a House committee, she.

Speaker 21 (01:48:03):
Brought up the fact that somehow Millennia Trump qualifies more
on Einstein visa. There's nothing Einstein about Millennia Trump, I'm
here to tell you, Okay. So we see, now, if
Donald Trump wants to go after the worst criminals, why
did he give a pardon to fifteen hundred people involved

(01:48:24):
in the January sixth insurrection. Hundreds of them have been
convicted or played guilty, many of them have felonies. But
he said he wants to go after the worst people.
But you have people who starring.

Speaker 20 (01:48:37):
The Capitol and assaulted over one hundred and forty police
officers and you gave them a party.

Speaker 5 (01:48:42):
Okay.

Speaker 20 (01:48:42):
So now this is how corrupt this administration is. This
is how evil and corrupt Donald Trump is. So this
is why we have to fight this.

Speaker 6 (01:48:51):
This is why elections have consequences.

Speaker 9 (01:48:55):
Indeed, and so I just people just understand just the
reality that we are living in.

Speaker 3 (01:49:01):
All right, y'all quick break, we come back fit live
win bag in a moment.

Speaker 15 (01:49:09):
This week, on the other side of change, the mass
incarceration Trump administration is doubling down on criminalization and how
it is profitable.

Speaker 33 (01:49:17):
And there's something really really perverse about saying that we
need to put people in cages in order for other
people to have jobs Like that is not how our economy.

Speaker 24 (01:49:25):
Should be built.

Speaker 16 (01:49:26):
Only on the other side of change, on the Blackstar Network, Hey,
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With Sammy Roman?

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He is John Murdy exactly produce of the new Cherry
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Speaker 16 (01:49:37):
If me, Sherry Sebret and you know what you're watching
Roland Martin unfilthy.

Speaker 3 (01:49:59):
Folks.

Speaker 9 (01:50:00):
Of course, Black Music Month also Men's Health Month, time
to focus on unique childes men face when it comes
to staying healthy physically and mentally, from heart disease to
mental wellness. We're talking real strategies to help men live longer, stronger,
and more empowerment lives.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Doctor Tellio Brown is a BORD.

Speaker 9 (01:50:16):
Certified emergency physician, also the force behind Trap Medicine, a
game changing program bringing health and healing to barbershops in
our community.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
Doctor Brown joneses right now, Dot glad to have you here.
So explain Trap, Where to start and what does it involve.

Speaker 6 (01:50:32):
It's a pleasure to be here.

Speaker 38 (01:50:34):
Barbershop based health initiatives have been around honestly since like
the late seventies or the eighties. It's a safe space
for black men and we can talk about health and
wellness in those spaces pretty easily with Trap Medicine. And
this is an initiative by my brother Jamil Lacey, where
we go into barbershops and talk about health and wellness,
specifically giving them resources, allow them to share their ideas

(01:50:56):
around mental health and lower that stigma and barrier between
healthcare providers in the community.

Speaker 9 (01:51:03):
And so, first of all, how many places are you
reaching and in are you having conversations or services be
provided as well?

Speaker 3 (01:51:14):
Oh?

Speaker 38 (01:51:15):
Yes, typically in the Los Angeles and the Oakland surrounding areas,
California specifically, But this model is something that exists in
a lot of major cities in America where we have
different groups that are doing barbershop based health initiative to
specifically reach black men and boys. This is a group
that typically gets overlooked and overshadowed in the healthcare ecosystem,

(01:51:39):
and the potential risks to black men and boys are
significant enough for us to think about outreach in an
unconventional fashion.

Speaker 3 (01:51:47):
All right, So what are the biggest things that jump out.

Speaker 6 (01:51:51):
Immediately? High blood pressure.

Speaker 38 (01:51:54):
If there's like two black men standing together, the odds
are that one of them has high blood pressure. And
this is problematic because it can have effects to all
the other organ systems. When we think about cardiovascular health,
black men are at an increased risk of having cardiovascular disease.
If I spoke about diabetes again, Black people in general

(01:52:14):
tend to be more represented in this condition, and black
men they get diagnosed later, they have worse complications because
of it. And all of this can be somehow found
in people who come to the barbershop. Our community members
know about these conditions. We call it either the sugar
or the pressure. But unfortunately, we don't have so many

(01:52:35):
providers who look like those individuals able to reach them
and break down some of those barriers. And so I'm
constantly in the fight trying to make sure that black
men and black boys are educated.

Speaker 9 (01:52:47):
All right, So we talk about if we talk about
high blood pressure, so let's do it first of all,
define that what exactly is high blood pressure?

Speaker 3 (01:52:56):
What numbers should we be looking at? What range should
we And.

Speaker 9 (01:53:00):
So's there's one number, letting say it's one ten over
sixty five, what does that first number?

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
What is the second number? And what you know, what
range were we be talking about?

Speaker 38 (01:53:11):
Yeah, so that you're really actually on part on point
with that. The top number we want to be somewhere
around one ten, no more than one twenty. And that's
the pressure that it takes to push blood around the body.
That bottom number sixty five seventy no more than eighty
is the amount of pressure that your body is like
essentially fighting against to get the heart filled back up

(01:53:33):
with blood. And the reason why this is important is
really high blood pressure. That top number means that that
blood pressure is skyrocking into very small vessels like the
ones that give blood supply to the brain. Can lead
to strokes, It can lead to heart attacks when those
same blood vessels feel like they're pushing plaques and they're

(01:53:53):
blocking vessels that give blood to supply to the heart.
I just constantly tell brothers, first you have to know
your numb right. You have to sit down at a
pharmacy a local pharmacy or a convenience store and sit
in that machine and see what the numbers are. Give
yourself a little bit of grace because I think that
sometimes we get anxious right when we're getting that right
pressure taken, and it might shoot up a little bit.

(01:54:15):
But if it's consistently elevated like these one sixties, this
is problematic and you might need to see a provider
to be on medications, or consider lifestyle changes, things like
active lifestyle, like exercising three or four times a week
for thirty minutes each time, changing your diet.

Speaker 6 (01:54:33):
I love fried foods. I love I had catfish last night.

Speaker 38 (01:54:37):
I just we can't always do these things, and we
have to kind of modify the way that we eat.
Those habits can lower those numbers as well.

Speaker 1 (01:54:45):
Oh.

Speaker 9 (01:54:45):
Absolutely, what's crazy to me is and like I've never
understood this here. It is amazing to me not been
in these been in places. I remember I was at
the bank Ones Friendship West Baptist Church in Dallas and
they were offering free blood pressure checks and folks like, nah,
I'm good, I'm good, I'm busy. And I remember when
I was at the church out man, I used to
harangue people like y'all get out there and do this,

(01:55:08):
and like I'm always getting checks because my average is
one ten o sixty five.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
Uh. And and to your point about you know your number.
So I remember one.

Speaker 9 (01:55:17):
Time I had a sinus infection and it was like
one thirty and that was it was like, hold up,
what the hell?

Speaker 3 (01:55:25):
No, no, y'all run that shit back.

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:55:27):
And it was one of the nurses from Baylor College
and Medicine, and that was one of the reasons. And
so again, when when you are consistently getting your number checked,
then if it's one twenty two eight uh. Like I
mean again, probably the highest mind has ever been is
about one thirty one thirty two because of that sinus

(01:55:49):
uh infection that I had.

Speaker 3 (01:55:52):
But that's why that, that's why that that's just huge.

Speaker 9 (01:55:56):
And so if all of a sudden you know what
your number is and then I'm crazy, you like, hey,
hold up, let let's let's let's run that back. Because
sometimes the cuff is all kinds of different reasons, but
it's crazy, but it's crazy than me. And I've stood
there and people will run from it and I never
forget it was it was one Sunday. It was a

(01:56:17):
mother I think she had two or three kids, and
I was just haranguing them, and so they stopped. And
the young boy, they literally said take him to the
emergency room right now. It was I mean it was
his number. I was sitting right there. His number was
crazy hot high, eyes were red, and she's like.

Speaker 3 (01:56:40):
Well, I'm gonna go it. Say no, no number.

Speaker 9 (01:56:43):
You need to go to the emergency room right now
so they can figure out why is your son. And
this kid wasn't even wasn't even ten twelve years old,
and that blood pressure number was crazy high. And the
people in the nurses administry, actual nurses, and the bail
of College of Medicine at Frisher Wist Baptist Church. So

(01:57:04):
if you go in the hospital you gonna see them too.

Speaker 10 (01:57:07):
Facts.

Speaker 38 (01:57:09):
Now, this is a common story, an all too common
story unfortunately, where in any type of like community setting,
you do a blood pressure checks and you notice someone
has like a two twenty over one hundred blood pressure,
and you say to yourself, this could be an actual crisis.
And this actually serves as a point for us to
intervene effectively. And I honestly, I get really worried. When

(01:57:32):
I see people and they look completely normal and their
blood pressure is sky high, You're like, wait, that means
you've been living like this form maybe six to eight
months to two three years. And what does that say
for your kidneys? What does that say for those small
vessels in your fingers and your toes where you start
to feel numb in the middle of the night. Like
all of these different things are related, and so I'm

(01:57:55):
always on the hunt to tell people like, we just
got to know the number, just like you got I
know your credit score, just like you have to understand
how much money is in your bank account. This is
a part of the basic hygiene of your life and
your wellness, and so we should know those numbers like
the back of our hands.

Speaker 9 (01:58:11):
Folks, We're going to my panel for questions today. We've
got three brothers here, so let's go right to them
on the congo you first do it.

Speaker 6 (01:58:20):
Thank you so much for your work, doctor Brown.

Speaker 31 (01:58:23):
My question is so much attention was paid to black
men and they're in the election who they were going
to vote for blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (01:58:30):
After the election, not so much.

Speaker 31 (01:58:32):
And the work that you're doing, are you seeing any
mental health consequences of what's going on post Trump, all
the things that are talking about the trade and the tariffs.
Are these conversations black men are having in these spaces
and is it do you see it affecting their health?

Speaker 6 (01:58:49):
That's an excellent question.

Speaker 38 (01:58:50):
I think that you're right on both points, the first
one being that they're first of all, mental health within
the black community we treated like, you know, grandmother's couch.

Speaker 6 (01:59:00):
You're just supposed to see it. You're not really supposed
to like approach it, or sit down on it or
touch it.

Speaker 38 (01:59:04):
It's this thing that we don't really understand well. And
so we've done significant work in destigmatizing mental health and
making sure that we own the fact that mental wellness
is a part of our physical wellness, is a part
of our future in general. And so with black men
learning how to work through their feelings, their emotions, the

(01:59:24):
traumas that they experience. Absolutely, in the fallout of the election,
black men have had increased reports of anxiety, increased concerns, fear, depression, grief, like,
all of these different emotions, and in spaces that are safe,
like barbershops, they're able to navigate these. Now where I
draw the line is sometimes you actually need professional health.

(01:59:46):
You need to have a therapist, You need to have
a spiritual counselor a friend, somebody who you can help
navigate these and that gives you tools to truly understand
the underpinnings of these emotions and if you need to
be on medication or some type of therapy or a regiment,
having a discussion about that with someone who's skilled enough
to navigate that with you. But to be one hundred

(02:00:07):
percent honest, I think that there's clearly going to be
more like an increase in these emotions and reports because
as men are being more comfortable with sharing, they're also
experiencing these traumas at a greater degree.

Speaker 1 (02:00:23):
Larry, Yeah, doctor Brown, Becky for all your work, and
you talked.

Speaker 13 (02:00:28):
About one of the things I want to talk about
is relating.

Speaker 1 (02:00:31):
To black men.

Speaker 13 (02:00:32):
And Roland that says, it's great to have three four
black men on this on the panel collectively, let's talk
about diseases. De stimatizing certain diseases for black men. They
do disproportionally impact black men, like prostate cancer. How do
we how do we talk about, you know, addressing these
these Like I said, the illness is this portionally impact

(02:00:52):
black man and you know, dese stigmatize what it means
to have, you know, something like prostate cancer, how to
prevent it.

Speaker 6 (02:00:59):
Thank you for bringing that up.

Speaker 38 (02:01:01):
Black men are more likely to be diagnosed with and
die from prostate cancer than their white counterpartners. Now I
want to give really want people to hear that by
the time that is caught, by the time its diagnosed,
we have shorter life expectancies in general, and that now
progresses those issues. The destigmatization of talking about prostate cancer

(02:01:25):
and understanding prostate cancer has been a lifelong challenge for
a lot of primary care physicians who are tasked with
making sure that men hit these specific surveillance markers. We
don't have a ton of urologists, We don't have a
ton of black eurologists and black oncologists, and so now
you're fighting against the identity element where someone who might

(02:01:48):
have a father who's black and has had this conversation before,
or seeing a family member or grandfather go through prostate
cancer can relate in the dialogue to get someone to
the point where they want to be tested regularly and
also educate them about these things. What we've done to
try to lower that barrier, that threshold is make sure

(02:02:09):
that they understand it's not the way that you once
heard of it.

Speaker 6 (02:02:12):
People.

Speaker 38 (02:02:13):
Digital rectal exams have changed completely, the fact that we
can do PSA tests, the fact that we can talk
about different markers in the bloodstream that can help get
early detection. That has changed the narrative a little bit.
And then finally making it popular telling people that hey,
it's not just about you know whether or not you're

(02:02:34):
more savvy than the next man, but we really have
to be there. We have to be here for children,
we have to be here for grandchildren, and part of
that means taking this one element extremely seriously.

Speaker 20 (02:02:45):
Michael, doctor Brown, what are some of the most important
tests that African American men should have once a year,
twice a year, whether it's being tested for diabetes, kidney disease,
heart disease. We talked about the blood pressure things like
this as well as prostate cancer. What are some of

(02:03:08):
those different types of tests that we should focus in on.

Speaker 38 (02:03:12):
Certainly, I mean this changes by age range, but in
general I tell everyone that they should know their basic numbers,
Like your blood pressure is one thing that's very easy
to access, so to speak, and you can know that
and see what your ranges are, your blood sugar range,
your cholesterol. These numbers are all proxy indicators of general health.

(02:03:34):
And if you have a cocmminant medical issue, they're going
to look at those numbers to figure out how much
at risk you are for disease worsening progress the disease
progress worsening, and mortality. The other things that I think
about are like kolonoscopies. Brothers are not getting kolonoscopies at
the way that we should. You know, we watched Chadick

(02:03:54):
Boseman die in his early forties, and this is a
brother who had more resources than all three of us
on this phone combined in terms of having access to education,
having access to financial resources, could get the best doctors
and it didn't change his outcome. So we need to
have other people talking about this and encouraging brothers to
get early screening. And if you have a first degree
relative that has colon cancer, that changes the entire equation

(02:04:18):
for you. You should be getting screened a lot earlier
than the numbers that we see. The forty five age range,
the forty two age range that most people will talk about.
Then we talk about prostate health, getting that PSA, making
sure that that antigen is being tested at the appropriate
age range when the risk factors start to be there.
But I think that it's also important for us to

(02:04:39):
kind of step outside the box and look at things
that are not specifically numbers, like how often are you
checking in with somebody about your mental health? Do you
have conversations about what it feels like to be anxious,
what it feels like to have depression or go through grief,
Because there's no clear number for this, but we can
see all of those different systems affected by someone's desire

(02:05:00):
to be around, desire to work out, desire to eat healthy.
That's all changed when you take into those those three
or four things into factor as well.

Speaker 9 (02:05:09):
All right, then you if folks want to get more information, uh,
where should they go?

Speaker 13 (02:05:15):
Uh?

Speaker 38 (02:05:16):
On social media's I'm at great vision g R number
eight vision. I'm happy to answer questions, and again, thank
you all so much for having me.

Speaker 6 (02:05:25):
Brother. You know what it is, alpha file for all day, all.

Speaker 3 (02:05:28):
Day, every day.

Speaker 9 (02:05:30):
Larry understands that poor little, poor little Michael, he doesn't.

Speaker 6 (02:05:35):
I had to let him knows too.

Speaker 12 (02:05:38):
Fine.

Speaker 3 (02:05:38):
We have doctors, Michael, Michael, Michael Michael. Michael, you noticed, Michael,
you noticed.

Speaker 9 (02:05:43):
Here's the crazy they Mike, I ain't even know he
was frat we had every time we turn around. We're
gonna have doctors and entrepreneurs, were gonna have we're gonna
have legal people, whatever, And it's like a consistent thing.

Speaker 6 (02:05:56):
They ended with the odds alone.

Speaker 9 (02:05:58):
They ended with throwing the ice. So I mean, y'all
just need to go ahead and accept you the poor
little sigmas. You live incompetent Cappus and you prison loving Omegas.

Speaker 3 (02:06:09):
Y'all can be near us. Sorry, Doc, we appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (02:06:15):
Good up, Thank you so much, y'all.

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Let me thank Michael, Larry and on my congo. I
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