Musk/Trump shutdown, Hakeem Jeffries slams GOP,Fani Willis disqualified,Mayor Adams corruption case

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Today is Thursday, December nineteen, twenty twenty four. Coming up
on Rolling Mark Unfiltered streaming live on the Black Start Network,
Fulton County, DA. Finnie Willis is disqualified and her entire
office disqualified from prosecuting Donald Trump and the other defendants
in the twenty Georgia twenty twenty election scandal.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Will tell you about this fallout. Well, guess what.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
There's a deal in Congress to continue funding after President
Elon Musk said, Hey, I like this deal.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, we're going to tell you about that, folks.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
President Biden this final days attacked climate change.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Also, we'll talk about although the drama.

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Happening in the nation's capital, it's time to bring the
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Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well folks.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
After President let Elon Musk tweeted out they Donald Trump
followed him. Republicans scuttled the bipartisan agreement they had to
continue paying for the government. Now they have a new
bill that stripped out a lot of the other priorities.
Congressman Hakking, Jeffries, Democratic leader, he spoke about all the

(02:14):
silliness happening on a Capitol hill because of the back
and forth with these Republicans, about.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
The harm that House Republicans will due to the American
people if the government shuts down, Families will be hurt,
Farmers will be hurt. Every Day Americans whose lives were
turned upside down by extreme weather events like hurricanes and
floods and wildfires will be hurt if they don't get

(02:44):
the relief that they need and deserve.

Speaker 6 (02:50):
To improve their quality of life.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
If the government shuts down, holiday travel will be impacted.
The ability of every day Americans to visit their family, their.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
Friends, their loved ones will be impacted.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Border Security and Border patrol agents will not be paid.
TSA agents will not be paid. Small businesses will be
hurt in every single community in this country. This reckless

(03:32):
Republican driven shut down can be avoided if House Republicans
will simply do what is right for the American people
and stick with the bipartisan agreement that they themselves negotiated.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Folks, since here's a live look on Capitol Hill right now,
now as this conversation continues, it's a whole lot of
back and forth that's taking place on Capitol Hill. And
so now what you have, of course, again, as I said,
that was an agreement. But then Elon Musk decided to

(04:17):
tweet that he didn't like the deal. Republicans then began
to cave, begin to cower as a result. Donald Trump
then began to say, oh, he didn't like the deal
as well, and so that was menarle Haken Jeffers. Now,
he then went to the floor and talked about, I'm sorry,

(04:38):
how do Republicans gonna try to school somebody on fiscal conservatism?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
When Donald Trump did.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
This, in our nation's two hundred and forty eight year history,
twenty five percent of our nation's debt was accumulated during
the four years of the former president twenty five percent?
How dare you lecture America about fiscal responsibility? Ever, and

(05:08):
then President Biden comes to office, gets big things done
for the American people, on infrastructure, on the Chips and
Science Act, standing up a clean energy economy, rescuing America
from a once in a century pandemic. Gets all of
these big things done, partnering with House Democrats and Senate Democrats,

(05:32):
and in the process in its first two years, reduces
the deficit by one point seven trillion dollars. And so
we see a very clear pattern. The facts speak for themselves.
Democrats are the party of getting things done and fiscal responsibility.
Republicans are the party of massive tax cuts for the wealthy,

(05:57):
the well off, and the well connected.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Which again, so let's unpack this, y'all.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
We talk about the tax bill that was pushed through
by Trump when he was there last time, added twenty
five percent twenty five percent to the federal debts. But
now they're running around trying to educate folk on when
it comes to the economy, what a particular joke. So

(06:27):
what Jeffers is saying is like, Okay, you know what
y'all want to do this The ons is on, y'all. Yeah, y'all,
y'all do this here, y'all get to work, And that's
exactly what it should be.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
It's like, okay, not it's all your ball game.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Let's talk about this with our panel, doctor Greg card
Baff of American Studies at Howard University, joege Cheney, Jeorge
Chaney Strategies. Let it have both of y'all here. I mean,
here's the reality. Greg, and I start this tweet from
Eric Erickson. He was like, you know, why is it
Biden doing more to solve this problem? That was a

(07:03):
bipartisan deal President elet Elon Musk And that's the real deal.
And here's what Americas had better understand the United States
if you thought the Ola Garks before control public policy.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Absolutely, public policy.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
In America is now going to be determined by tweets.

Speaker 7 (07:29):
It looks that way, to the tune of over one
hundred and fifty since four day in the morning yesterday,
where is junior varsity events? By the way, you know,
he's gone quiet, So I'm wondering if he's down there
over at Steve Banners townhouse in the shadow of Capitol
Hill Plattinum planning for the great takeover. This is a preview,

(07:49):
of course, of what's going to happen beginning in January.
Of course, they want to get rid of the debt
ceiling because they're getting ready to pay these billionaires off
with our tax money and borrow into the bar the
United States into oblivion. Now the Democrats aren't, you know,
fiscal hawks. This goes back to Bill Clinton and triangulation
and DLC and and trying to you know, show themselves

(08:11):
to be centrist, so to speak. But Bernie Sanders got
it right. Today the richest man on earth, President Elon Musk,
doesn't like it. The Republicans kissed that kissed the ring.
Billionaires must not be allowed to run our government.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
Well guess what.

Speaker 7 (08:24):
Billionaires have been running it for quite some time. And
thanks to John Boyd Roberts in twenty ten with Citizens
United and Unfitted Access.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
Elon Musk has the cheat code.

Speaker 7 (08:33):
It's not even a cheat code anymore because there aren't
any rules now, Roland.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
There aren't any rules, and enjoy folks just go ahead
and get used to it. And it's like, okay, since
you know y'all y'all want to run the whole show,
and since these Americans said let's have them run the show,
have at it.

Speaker 8 (08:53):
Yeah, we're going to find out. You know, you messed
around and you're going to find out we don't have
a democracy anymore. It feels much more like an olagy.
And frankly, this is going to lead to a lot
of chaos because eventually Donald Trump is going to get
sick of Elon Musk, you know, stealing his thunder. Who
even knows if he even knew what Elon was.

Speaker 9 (09:13):
Going to do before he did it, and.

Speaker 8 (09:15):
That now he has to say face.

Speaker 9 (09:17):
And they're silly.

Speaker 8 (09:19):
Immature dynamics are now changing what our whole government is doing.
And let's be clearer, John o'biden did his job in
that he had a Democratic Senate and a Republican House
that came up with a deal through We only have
one president at a time, President Joe Biden.

Speaker 9 (09:39):
They have a deal under him that he was willing
to sign.

Speaker 8 (09:43):
Donald Trump should have just simply walked away, allowed it
to be signed, and then he could have said whatever
that only wanted afterwards. But to try to get in
the way of the deal because some oligarch said that
that's what you have to do, is completely irresponsible. And
I don't think we we just need to hear from
from Jeffries. I think we need to hear from the

(10:04):
president on this, and by that I mean President Biden.
We need to hear what is going on. You know,
every moment in the United States is important. We got
all the way of January twentieth. We need everyone's voice
on this. This is no way to run a country.
We had a deal, it should have been honored.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, but look, of course there was a deal.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
But the bottom line is they want to exert their
influence and Republicans still control the House.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's just a fact. And so and so it's like
and again, you know what, and that's how y'all want
to roll.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
But I need everybody understanding and this is what people
had better get used to.

Speaker 6 (10:43):
Greg.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
There's going to be more of this. You are going
to see a lot more of this. You're going to
see the Elon Musk of the world, the vibek Ramaswami
and the others making policy. And there's going to be
that clash with Donald Trump and we'll see how that

(11:04):
ends up. But as that, what's what was that video
homeboard the hotel?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
It's above me down be a tweet?

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's uh. I tell you, like you said,
joyous chaos.

Speaker 7 (11:23):
And you know, when we think about this legislation that
had been agreed to. I mean, there are little things
like people here in the in the DMV, the idea
that the federal government would turn over control of Robert
Fitzgerald Kennedy Junior Stadium so that the Washington commanders might
be able to build a new complex there. You know,

(11:46):
I don't watch NFL football anymore since Kaepernick, but there
are a lot of people out there will be like,
oh my god. It seems like a small thing. But
the point is this. If they can't, well, they're not
going to honor their word, because honor means nothing. But
if they can go ahead and push this through, because
Musk is screaming, then as you say, this is a
preview of January, the Maga muppet muppet Mike Johnson.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
Is likely to lose his speakership.

Speaker 7 (12:11):
We saw what happened when they tried to elect the
speaker of their last time, you know, and Matt Gates
damn there getting choked out and birring Donald's get in
the back of his head palm still waiting on his
presidential Hell, they put herschel Walker in an ambassadorship before
this man servant as Lauren Victory Burke would call him,
got a call. But you know, I think most importantly,
and I don't know y'all think about this, it seems
like maybe the key to this, with all the nor

(12:34):
it's notwithstanding, is to get this debt ceiling gone for
two years so they can basically just run up the bill.
But like you said, in terms of a preview, and
that hill Billy Hord in Congress, people like Chip Roy
and them Thomas Massey out of Kentucky, those cats ain't
gonna vote for nothing that adds a penny to anything,

(12:56):
So they're gonna have to have Democratic votes. And you know,
as haw keem Jeffrey is kind of being eloquent about
it in a very temperate sense. But Jasmin Crockett said,
you know what she said. I guess you probably show
it in a minute. You're homeie talking about this. The
Democrats shouldn't lift a finger. Let this pain be redistributed.
Minister fair Kinn or marth U King for that matter,
would say redistribute the pain.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well, absolutely, God get that Jasmine Crockett clip. She was
on MSNBC talking about this, and she's right, and people
just need to need to realize the level of stupidity.
We're going to see a whole lot a bunch of
this over the next two years. So just buckle up,
rolling clip.

Speaker 10 (13:38):
This is not like one of the most senior members, right,
So basically he had not burned enough bridges, and so
they had to go way way down in seniority to
find someone that they could come to a consensus on
when they swear in in January. When we all try
to swearing in January, listen, there's going to be less
Republicans than we had in one hundred and eighteenth, right,
because the story has not really been told about how

(14:01):
strongly House Democrats performed while the Republicans won the White House,
while they ended up picking up so many seats in
the Senate. You know who law seats the House? Right now,
Should we have a speaker Jeffries? Absolutely? If North Carolina
didn't cheat and take away our seats, we would have
a speaker Jeffries, and we would not be in this situation.
But here's the deal, there is no fix in this
without the Democrats. We have seen this over and over

(14:23):
and I'm just going to sit back and sip my
tea and wait on them to figure it.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Out, or maybe something stronger.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
I'm just saying it, Hakeem Jeffries, you talk you uh.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Check out this response from Congressman Jamie raskin.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
No where are you on this super season?

Speaker 11 (14:42):
We had many weeks of negotiation with the Republicans. We
arrived at a bipartisan legislative compromise, the Senate Democrats, the
Senate Republicans, the House Democrats, the House Republicans, everybody agreed,
and then it was blown up by Elon Musk, who
apparently has become the fourth branch of government. And that's

(15:03):
just an intolerable way of proceeding under representative democracy. So
the Democrats are going to try to figure out how
we can salvage the public good out of the wreckage
that has just been foisted upon.

Speaker 8 (15:14):
But do you think that there's a scenario where you
might regret rejecting a clean debt ceiling in Greece?

Speaker 4 (15:18):
And that's what they've added to this.

Speaker 11 (15:20):
We're going to discuss this in our caucus and we'll
figure out what to do. It's just horrific that they
have thrust us into this kind of chaos already and
they haven't even taken over yet.

Speaker 12 (15:31):
Some Republicans are saying they've done their part now that
what comes next is up to you.

Speaker 13 (15:35):
And if this doesn't get past and a government and
the government shuts down, the Democrats are going to own this.

Speaker 11 (15:39):
Yeah, they did their part by entering into a legislative
compromise with us, which we negotiated over a several month period.
We arrived at the compromise, and that's what we've all
been behind, and that's what we.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Expect to go forward.

Speaker 11 (15:51):
So who is our leader, Hakim Jeffrey is supposed to
negotiate with? Is it Mike Johnson? Is he the Speaker
of the House? Or is it Donald Trump? Or is
it Muskers? It's somebody else. So we got to try
to figure out how to salvage some kind of public
interest out of the wreckage that they've just put upon us.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Thanks, well, a great point. I love that. So who's
supposed to negotiate with? Is it you might?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Is it is it elon which one of y'all?

Speaker 14 (16:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (16:19):
Have we been here before? I mean, we have been
here before.

Speaker 8 (16:23):
This is what happened with the immigration deal, this is
what's happened with previous dead sealing deals. You make a
deal with the with the Republican and then they are like,
we're good to go, We've got a deal, and then
they get a tweet or they get a message from
Donald Trump that says, don't make that deal. That does
not instill trust. So you cannot make a deal with them.

(16:47):
The Democrats should not engage in anymore deal making with
this particular Republican party until they understand that when you
give your word, you know, Mike Johnson is a man
of faith, or at least he says, so what else
is a man other than his word or a.

Speaker 9 (17:07):
Woman for that matter.

Speaker 8 (17:08):
When you give your word and you say we're done,
we're ready to vote and to go to the Senate,
and then you get a tweet from someone else, not
even the president of your not even the leader of
your party in this case. But even if it had been,
he's not in the House, he's not.

Speaker 9 (17:25):
In the Senate.

Speaker 8 (17:26):
No deal was made with him, and you clearly had
a go ahead, because don't believe that Mike Johnson would
have said okay to this deal if he did not
have a goal ahead from Donald Trump. This was Elon
Musk and Donald Trump being too impotent to then say, hey.

Speaker 9 (17:43):
Elon, back off, Elon.

Speaker 8 (17:46):
Got out in front, and that's what we have to
deal with. We're gonna have a very wealthy person who
knows he can embarrass the President of.

Speaker 9 (17:54):
The United States. He can get out in front.

Speaker 8 (17:57):
Of the President of the United States, and he can
blow up a deal in Washington. That's what happened, that's
what's going to happen more. And that is incredibly concerning
for the state of our democracy. The American people have
made a gross mistake. So when we say some of
you are a little stupid, that's because we knew this

(18:17):
was going to happen. We told you, and you chose
to do it differently. But everyone on this call will
be fine.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Well, and again, hey, Greg, that's what they wanted. They
wanted this, they voted for it. They wanted it. You're
going to get exactly what you voted for. And here's
a deal. When the new Congress is worn in, the
Republican's margin is going to be even smaller. It's even smaller.
And so if I'm like I keep saying, if I'm

(18:47):
Congressman Jeffries, I'm sitting there keeping my carcas at bait,
I'm like, let them do all the work, don't don't
come look at us.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Y'all got the majority, go to work.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
It's to be tough. Rowland, I mean Musk. I think
it's the quandry reports.

Speaker 7 (19:07):
The first tweet was about four fifteen Wednesday morning, so
he's another up all night guy. This bill must not pass.
And then he starts with the disinformation. And again when
we finally have an honest, if there's still United States
honest conversation about the election, the two major issues that

(19:28):
are going to emerge will be voter suppression and disinformation.
That's how they were able to steal this thing in
the first place to get in this position.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
But then he's.

Speaker 7 (19:35):
Tweeting out that in the bill is three billion dollars
for Washington, d c. To purchase the football stadium site.
It's a lot. It's pure disinformation. Now that has pissed
off some of these white nationalists in Congress who are
fiscal hawks, like Thompson, Congressman Thompson out of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
You know, he's like, well, man, this guy didn't have
a voting card.

Speaker 7 (19:57):
And so as you say, this already razor majority, which
is going to get smaller when they reach in and
dip in for these administrative appointments, administration appointments, executly branch appointments.
You know you're gonna see hell, it's bad enough to
have the Net Caucus over there, the Andy Biggs and
all them, the free so called Freedom Caucus, reminiscent of

(20:18):
when this thing became an issue in the first place.
The debt ceiling has been passed pro former over one
hundred times since nineteen thirty nine, and it only became
an issue in nineteen thirty nine when the federal government
clawed back some authority they had given to the.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
Department of Treasury to do this.

Speaker 7 (20:30):
But it really became an issue when Nuke Gingrich, who's
still running around after he threw the rock and hit
his damn hand in nineteen ninety five and ninety six,
when they put that on Bill Clinton. So this is
all part of the same white nationalist backlash to the
civil rights and black power movement of the nineteen sixties
and seventies, the whole Contract with America. This is when
this thing became an issue in the first place. But

(20:51):
they can't hold this coalition together now where the Democrats sit.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
On the sidelines.

Speaker 7 (20:56):
Who knows, who knows because Jamie Raskin is now going
to move over to you Judiciary to chair the Judiciary Committee,
and in his place, when they try to advance Alexandria
Ocasio Cortez, they put the seventy.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
Fourth your old dude in. I mean, the Democrats still
don't seem.

Speaker 7 (21:11):
To be clear about what their political agenda is going
to be, but at least in this moment they said, stfu,
sit back and watch this thing implode. Because these Republicans
one thing about them, there are some of them who
really don't like the idea of this open interference. And

(21:33):
Musk is gonna overplay his hand. He's shown he has
no impulse control. He's not a genius. He's getting haird
of a bunch of stuff. And now he is making
his money literally out of our pockets, which is why
they want to get rid of the debt ceiling in
the first place and keep borrowing and then put it
on our credit card. But you know, some of these
people on the Republican side really don't like this, and
I doubt they are gonna stand up and salute. While

(21:53):
the majority of them will not, enough of them may
do it in order for them to do anything.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Well, I am going to thoroughly watch the implosion take place.
And it's going to happen, and I shall do it
with glee. All right, folks gotta go to break We
come back and called to the back and talk about.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Folter County DA. Fiddie Willis. We knew this was going
to happen.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
She cannot move forward prosecuting Donald Trump. She's been removed
from the case. In fact, all versus in DA's.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Her entire office.

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Speaker 19 (24:14):
People carrying the Confederate flag, wearing sweatshirts saying maga civil War.
January sixth, twenty twenty one, stormed US capital, hunted down
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Rollad Martin.

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Speaker 1 (24:51):
Well, folks, just talk about what happened in Georgia where
the Court of Appeals made a decision removing Fulton County
DA from the prosecution of Donald Trump. All of this
as a result of the Nathan Wade saga, something she.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Was involved with.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
In all of that drama, Trump and other defendants in
the case. It argued Willis profited from hiring special prosecutor
Nathan Wade, with whom she had a romantic relationship, that
it gave the elected district attorney an impermissible stake in
the prosecution. The defense failed to prove an actual conflict
of interest, but that the appearance of impropriety makes this

(25:33):
a rare case. I mean, this is one of those
the stories. It had been gone back and forth, and
of course once it became public that sidetrack the entire prosecution.
That led to various hearings. And so what it did
was it gave Donald Trump exactly what he wanted, and
that is it gave them time, gave them time to

(25:59):
back off. Now here's the issue. Here that it also
jumps out that and this is really the problem with
the Georgia of CORBN Phil's decision. Not only has she removed,
her office is removed, We're now talking about a red state.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
So what now happens?

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Who does the turn General appointed pro special prosecutor. Oh,
the age is a Republican, so this case may actually die.
And so this is again just what is crazy with
this whole thing? And I was very clear not that's
some people who hitting me, and they said, Oh my god, Roland,
I think you're wrong. I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna

(26:38):
say it again. We are here because of Finnie Willis's
decision in this case. Here, I don't care what anybody says.
If you're trying to convict a former occupant of the
Oval office, everything has got to be clean. There cannot
be a blemish on anybody on the team. It doesn't matter.

(27:02):
And common sense says, sorry, boo, you can't be on
a team. No you cannot. I don't care what anybody says.
And so this is not all well, this is attacking her.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
No, it's not. She made this call.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
That's why we're where we are right now. Jay Edward
shipping his attorney Joseph. Right now, all right, Jed, what
do you make of this? Is this any surprise?

Speaker 21 (27:30):
It's not a surprise, Well, I take that bet. It
is a surprise coming from the Court of Appeals that
actually went against the rule that they accept not even
three years ago, saying that just an appearance of impropriety
is not enough to disqualify an office.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
So let's start there.

Speaker 21 (27:47):
Now they're bending the rooms for their favorite candidate and saying, hey,
I guess this appearance can be used to disqualify this office,
and the descent spells it out and says, you, guys,
only one we had something like this come up, and
we chose not to bend the rules for this particular individual.

(28:07):
And now, just because you don't like the outcome of
how this is all played out, now.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
You're been in the rules and saying we're gonna bend.

Speaker 21 (28:14):
The knee and we're going to allow the office to
be disqualified.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Is it gonna go to the Supreme Court?

Speaker 6 (28:22):
My bets are on yes.

Speaker 21 (28:23):
But again, it's surprising to see that the Court of
Appeals would go against tradition, precedent, start decisives and say, yeah,
we're wrong. Actually, we're going to allow this office to
be disqualified.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
But why why is it the surprise if you're again,
if you are a blue dot in a sea of red, you.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Gonna make sure your stuff is tight.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Where you give nobody an opportunity to roll the way
they ruled.

Speaker 21 (28:56):
It's a surprise because so many times we have watched
people say, well, you know, we're going to go to
the rule of law. The rule of law is what's
always been shoved down our throats by the Republican side.
Let's follow the rule of law. And that's even what
happened in this particular case. The trial judge said, yes,
there is an odor of mendacity at this case.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
We're looking at, you know, the person who testified.

Speaker 21 (29:23):
Yeah, they're probably lying, but again I have found it
not to be improper, so I'm not going to disqualify her.
And then you had the Court of appell say, hey,
I know, we never changed what the trial court says.
We always go to the trial court discretion because they
are the people who actually heard the testimony, were right
there at the time. We're going to go and change that.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
That's a surprise to us.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Here's why is that surprise to me?

Speaker 1 (29:49):
We see it with the Supreme Court, we actually see it,
which is why for me, you never do anything to
put yourself in a position to where it has to
go where somebody else is now determine the rules.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
I just that's just, that's where.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
It's got my panel here, Joy, Greg, Joe want to
start with you, Joey.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I've heard a couple of.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
People text me and they were like, you know, no,
you should be defending the system. I'm like, I'm sorry,
I can't. If I was the Fuldham County DA, I'm
saying that everybody on the team, if you got even
a smidgeon of a problem, tell me right now, and
I'm probably gonna boot you off the team.

Speaker 9 (30:32):
I think that's right.

Speaker 8 (30:33):
I'm texting right now with a friend who's a lawyer
in Fulton County and they agree this was a mistake.
And I've always said it that Fannie willis.

Speaker 9 (30:47):
Despite how proud.

Speaker 8 (30:48):
We were of her and her her her toughness and
her flare and her competence as an attorney, she made
a huge personal error in judgmental professional personal error that
was also a professional error in judgment, and then she
compounded it by once once she was out once it

(31:10):
was out there and perhaps being unfairly blown up. Whatever,
we're not naive. That is, of course what's going to happen.
If any of us had a prosecutor who had a
relationship with another prosecutor on the case, we would bring
it up to we're going to be adults here, we
would all bring it up. Any defense person, any defendant,
would bring it up. But once it's brought up, and

(31:31):
even if it's unfair, she should have refused herself, not
just not just the the other man. I'm forgetting his
name right now, she should have recused herself.

Speaker 9 (31:44):
If she had done that early on, we might have
been able to put it behind us.

Speaker 8 (31:48):
She would not have become the story, and we could
have saved so that her office could have continued with
the case.

Speaker 9 (31:55):
But instead that did not happen, and I ain't.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Here, Greg, Greg.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Because of this decision, the case may be over. I mean,
this is what happens when it is taken out of
your hands and you're gonna be you gonna play chess,
you're gonna be thinking for it to going. Okay, they're
gonna do this this, They're gonna do everything they can
to try to end this take it out of my hands.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I can't give them anything.

Speaker 7 (32:29):
No, but I'll be honest with you though, brother, I
can't get that.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
Animated, I mean about it.

Speaker 7 (32:36):
And just for a simple reason, if it weren't it
wasn't this, it was gonna be something else.

Speaker 6 (32:42):
And I agree with you one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
I'm with you a hundred percent that there should have
been no hint of impropriety. And of course there are
people who remember when Fannie Willis as a young assistant
district attorney in twenty thirteen use that same rico statute
against school superintendent Beverly Hall and all those black school
teachers down there, you know, And so I know that
that's that's that that's an issue as well. But as

(33:06):
brother Ship said, you know, there's no precedent for this.
All three of the people of the judges on the
panel that that that took her and her office out
were a Republican.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
The the trial court.

Speaker 7 (33:18):
Judge, Judge McAfee was was appointed by the gun toting
Brian Kemp. In fact, the dissenter Judge Land was like,
hey man, the majority and the two people who voted
to take her out, you know, we we as you said,
brother ship. You know, we always are we always there's
a long history of us basically bowing to the discretion

(33:41):
of the trial court.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
We're not trying fact here, we're not, and we don't
know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (33:45):
And so let's say that she hadn't had an affair
with this with this brother, Let's say that they that
there was clean as a whistle well, and they're looking
for another reason to take them out. I'm not I'm
not defending Fannie Wilson. Like I said, I have mixed
opinions about her anyway generally, but that is beside the point.
This is about neicked power and a neicked power grant.

(34:07):
And so you know, at this point I guess and
help me by brothership. I think at this point it
goes to the prosecuting Attorney Council in Georgia, and of.

Speaker 21 (34:15):
Course, yes, it goes to pat Prostituting Attorney's Council, and
of course they're the ones who will punt it all
the way to the end and let the statue run.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
So yeah, we are in a perilous situation.

Speaker 21 (34:29):
However, she can appeal to the Georgia Supreme Court and
get them to actually hold on to that start decisions,
Because again, if they don't hold on to the start decisive,
if they don't hold on to this president, then what
is to stop us as defense attorneys from coming in
and saying, Okay, well, since you said that this is

(34:49):
the appearance of impropriety and it can disqualify these prosecution offices,
why can't we start disqualifying these prosecution officers for going
to these fundraisers. We judges going out to the gun club,
We judges going to the golf course, we judge right
because improper?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Right, Yeah, I think you should.

Speaker 8 (35:14):
I don't know if you can hear me, but I
think you should be using that.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Why not?

Speaker 9 (35:17):
Why the hell not?

Speaker 8 (35:19):
So if they've opened the door here, let's use it.
I don't have a problem with that. If that's the case,
then it's well worth it. We also know that Funnie
Willis has some other things that has her for in
Fulton County, some things that are done to rank and
file prisoners, people that have been there too long without
having trials and hearings.

Speaker 9 (35:38):
So look, let's move on to what's next. I don't
you know.

Speaker 8 (35:43):
If she decides to appeel that, that's fine. I'm sure
she will that's good, But let's let the prosecution move forward.
Let's do what we can do on Donald Trump. But
then perhaps her office can refocus on the things that
are happening to rank and file people and Fulton County,
because that's also a story here that is not fully

(36:04):
being told. Even as we are proud of her, there
is some improvement that needs to be done there. And
with respect to her, let this be a lesson to
all of you. If you're going to take on and
be in a high profile case like Donald Trump, you
cannot have this kind of gap out there. It's just
it's not gonna work. They're gonna find out and they're

(36:26):
going to use it to their benefit.

Speaker 9 (36:27):
And you can say it could have been.

Speaker 8 (36:28):
Anything, but in this case, it was it was the
thing you gave them.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Well, I just the thing for me. I just cannot
stand unforced errors. I hate unforced airs. And I thought
that this case was one of the strongest ones out
of all of the various staatecases. And to be honest,

(36:54):
I don't have any hope that this thing is going
to move forward.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
You jailward, what are you?

Speaker 21 (37:00):
I have my reservation, but I do think it's going
to move forward. But I always think about Omar said
it in the wire. You shoot for the king, you
better not miss. And I have to agree with you. Yes,
she made some bad decisions. But again, as I said earlier,
and I say a million times over, these same legal

(37:22):
arguments that they came up with have been left out
of court. But because it was a black woman prosecuting
this powerful white man, now we're saying, oh, well, there
might be some credibility to that, let's look into. And
I think that's the most asinine thing in the world.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
And that's why I say to anybody who's watching, you
never give them any room to come and get you.
You give them nothing, You make them work hard. I'm
sorry this one she made it easy for him. Jay
what I appreciate it. Thanks a lot, Thank you, all

(38:02):
the folks gonna go. I really do think this is
a this is you know, this is a lesson enjoy
and Greg. You know, I remember I was, Remember I
was having a debate with someone of the previous company
I work with, and every time this person would kill

(38:23):
other folks ideas, he would pick holes, he would pick
holes any of their argument. Well, you know why he
couldn't stand me because he couldn't pick no holes in
my argument because I made sure not to make sure
there were any holes.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
And he tried.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Oh he When I say this, dude hated my guts,
it's because my ship.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Was bulletproof.

Speaker 13 (38:50):
And I was.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
I was.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
I would sit in a room and I would be
we'll be in a meeting, and I'd be like, I
dare you to challenge me.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
I dare you to find holes. And I just think that.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
I mean it just it just drives me crazy.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
She made it easy for him.

Speaker 8 (39:09):
She made it easy for them, and this wasn't even
on the margins.

Speaker 9 (39:13):
This was pretty darn clear.

Speaker 8 (39:16):
Certainly she did not enrich herself by engaging and a
you know, in a relationship with him. But she did
hire someone she had a relationship with, which is not
that unusual.

Speaker 9 (39:28):
Except that then they kind of lied about it.

Speaker 8 (39:30):
I personally think that some people say they didn't, but
the story certainly sounded fishy. Her performance on the stand
that day, I know a lot of people loved it
and it felt like some kind of strike for powerful
black women. But I'm gonna be honest with you, it
wasn't the decorum that were used to in the court
I'm sorry. It was out of the norm, it was inappropriate,

(39:52):
I'll be honest. And I think all of that, if
people already felt like there was bias, that there was
an a shpearance of messiness and impropriety chaos already, it
added to it.

Speaker 9 (40:06):
It didn't diminish it. It made her the story.

Speaker 8 (40:09):
So in this case, if you're watching this, this is
a lesson of how not to do it. We'll know
better next time, but it's a lesson of how not
to do it.

Speaker 9 (40:19):
And please don't fool ourselves.

Speaker 8 (40:21):
I don't want to hear about it in our sorority
meetings and whatever. No, we can love Fannie when black
women don't have to be perfect.

Speaker 9 (40:28):
We can make mistakes.

Speaker 8 (40:29):
She made a mistake and we can on We ought
to own that this time she made a mistake.

Speaker 9 (40:36):
This one is on her.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
I just I do think I think the lesson. Listen, Greg,
this is the highest of high profile. I mean, look,
did they would look their case against young thug blew up?
I mean hell did? I helped both judges went off
and was talking about how unprepared this is just I

(41:00):
guess what just just angers me. This was the strongest
case against this thug. This was the strongest case, and
we got the case sit in New York. Uh, we
got those as well. And you know, the judge said, look,
I'm not you know, throwing the Look they still be
decided to dismiss the charges, which I still think is bold,
because just because you want an election, the chargers should

(41:21):
not get dismissed. But you know, it's just the thing is,
you know, it is what it is. But I just
it just it just sort of just drives me a
little bit crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I just I I.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Tell uh, here's what Here's what I tell not even lawyers,
I tell students this. I tell folks who work here,
have your stuff lined up. Don't ever get don't ever
make it easy to get. God, that's my that's just

(41:55):
my biggest thing. And so that's just what frustrates me
the most.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Go ahead, right you.

Speaker 7 (42:00):
Yeah, you know, I think that if you are black,
certainly in the United States of America, and you pretend
to be sane or if you think you're saying, then
you're not well because this whole structure is set up

(42:23):
in a field of violence. And when you talk about
a students, one of the most difficult things to think
for law students, Black law students.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
I mean when I was in.

Speaker 7 (42:31):
Law school, is the moment they realize that it's all
make believe and it's all about power. There is no
storry decisives, there's no precedent right. There is what you
can ram down the throat of your opponent. You know,
when we were drug here in chains and when these
rapists like Thomas Jefferson, and I suppose I shouldn't call

(42:55):
him a rapist because legally women of African descent were property.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
You can't rate property.

Speaker 7 (43:01):
I suppose, thinking now about bob byger and Disney, that
showed that they're rolling over and showing their belly to
Trump by settling on something they should and would have
won in court.

Speaker 6 (43:13):
Most lawyers would agree.

Speaker 7 (43:15):
But you know, the idea that the law somehow is
a mathematical equation and that it exists above and beyond
human politics is a fantasy. And when you realize that,
I've seen people leave the legal profession. I've seen people
keep a stiff upper lifting, continue to fight, and when

(43:36):
you ask them what's going on, they tell you what's
the alternative? There are many alternatives, quite frankly, and respectability
is not going to improve our chances. You have a
man convicted in New York for assaulting e. Gene Carroll.
You have an administration, a congress filled with young girl lovers,

(44:00):
with pornographers.

Speaker 6 (44:01):
Filled with all kind of stuff.

Speaker 7 (44:03):
But when it comes to us, the idea that we
could somehow respectability our way into some form of parity
belies the fact that the law itself is a.

Speaker 6 (44:14):
Field of violence.

Speaker 7 (44:18):
And if this doesn't do anything else, let's say that
everything would have gone through, that would have been a conviction. Well,
at that point the judge and Georgia follows the judge
in New York and says, we will suspend the sentence
until the president is out of office.

Speaker 6 (44:32):
And guess what.

Speaker 7 (44:34):
Guess what you heard Steve Banner the other night y'all
talked about it, Steve Banner saying, Hey, maybe we should
go for another one in twenty eight. Why because they're
going to make the case that it's two consecutive terms
that on that the cap applies to. And finally, when
you look at the number of states that have called
for a constitutional convention, they're past that threshold number, which
is by places like California, legislature are trying to walk

(44:57):
back their demand from years ago, because there is no
rule over how long a state's demand for US Constitution
Convention is good, and they're gonna make the argument that
they've already been enough states to say it and if
they can get that into the conversation. There are also
no rules as to who can submit an amendment. Although
you still need a supermajority of states to pass the

(45:17):
Constitution amendment, they may go back in and re examine
their thirteenth Amendment.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
In other words, there is no such thing as a
rule of law that transcends human behavior.

Speaker 7 (45:25):
No, we couldn't have respectability politics to our way out
of it and behaving as if we could reinforces the
myth that they rely on to keep us in line.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Well, I agree, it will go.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
You know, look, Bill appiled to the Supreme Court and
we'll see what they decide.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
And that is that all right, folks, gotta go to break.

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Speaker 6 (48:12):
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Speaker 1 (48:13):
Pub all right, but beginning of the show talking about
the dead ceiling drama, you know what. So then did
a couple of videos on that, uh, come out of
Capitol Hill that I just.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Finally be you know, quite hilarious.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Uh, And so I was gonna play a couple more.
Here's cars of Jared Moskowitz.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
One minute to the gentleman from Florida and mister Moskowitz.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
The gentleman from Florida's recognized for one minute.

Speaker 24 (48:43):
Thank you as a speaker. You know, denial is not
just a river in Egypt. Let's talk about the last
two years. It was the Democrats who raised the debt ceiling,
not the Republicans. Last time, many of you voted against it.
It was the Democrats who kept over the government. Not once,
not to but every single time we needed to keep

(49:03):
the government open, it was the Democrats who kept the
government open. More of us voted for it than you
and all I've heard for the last couple of weeks
about this giant mandate landslide trifecta. Put on your big
boy pants, pass your own bill.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
We're we're only here.

Speaker 25 (49:22):
We're only here.

Speaker 24 (49:23):
Because you guys can't agree amongst yourselfs So hold on
a second, Hold on a second. Democrats will keep government
open for the American people. We will mediate the disagreements
between that side of the room and that side of
the room.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
We will do that for you.

Speaker 24 (49:41):
But you got to at least invite us to that meeting.
So if you want us to solve your problem because
you can't agree amongst.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yourselves, reach out. That is expired the gentleman.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
But you know, and and there's there there are those
moments when you even you get a Republican who I mean,
I think he's a nutcase, but he is a perfect
example of Republican who is even fed up with his
own side.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Here is Texas Congressman Chip Roy.

Speaker 6 (50:12):
This is.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Dridden thirty.

Speaker 20 (50:17):
Fact of the matter is three hundred and thirty billion dollars. Congratulations,
you've added to the debt since you were given the
majority again on November fifth. It's embarrassing, it's shameful. Yes,
I think this bill is better than it was yesterday
on certain respects.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
But to take this bill, to.

Speaker 20 (50:35):
Take this bill yesterday and congratulate yourself because it's shorter
in pages but increases the debt by five trillion dollars
is as nine and that's it, precisely what Republicans are doing.
I am absolutely sickened by a party that campaigns on
fiscal responsibility and has the temerity to go forty the

(50:57):
American people and say you think this is fiscally respec ponsible.
It is absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Hey, whey to go? Chip Roy? Where to go? Matter?

Speaker 1 (51:09):
In fact, says said we played the cars from Texas
they've been Just go ahead and just put on my hat,
you know, since you know, since we're talking about Chip Roy,
so he wants to he said in Matt Mosquits, put
your big boy pants on, all right, love, Victoria Burt Jonesy.
Right now, Lauren, you've been following what's happy to Capitol Hill.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
I've been. I've just been laughing.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
At the drama of President elect Elon Musk tweeting public
policy in seeing all the people just lose their minds.

Speaker 25 (51:41):
Yeah, I mean they don't.

Speaker 18 (51:42):
They have no idea who they are as party. They
have no idea who's running the party. And you know,
thirty Republicans just voted against, you know, raising the debt ceiling,
which they're typically not into. But again, they don't know
whether they are the I don't know Goldwater Republicans, the
Reagan Republicans, the William F. Buckley slash Reagan Republicans, the

(52:04):
George W. Certainly not the George W. Republicans. They typically
are the Maga Republicans. And I don't even think they
know how to define that at this point. From a
standpoint of leadership, there is no leadership. We got a
president likes to play golf a lot. I suspect that.
Interestingly enough, he did say the other day that he
was going to mandate the federal employees had to work

(52:24):
in person. I thought to myself, does that include the president?
I mean, he's probably going to be in Florida for
most of this presidency, are on some golf course, and
then Elon or one of these other airheads is going
to act like pretend they're president, and then he's going
to wake up and his ego is going to wake
up and say, well, wait a minute. I can't have
somebody else getting the attention. At some point that's going

(52:46):
to crash. I actually think it's going to crash a
lot sooner than we thought, because I thought it would
crash somewhere in the February March twenty twenty five zone.
I'm starting thinking my crash, you know, over this weekend,
because there's no that Donald Trump is that big fat
ego is gonna allow anybody.

Speaker 25 (53:03):
I don't give it.

Speaker 18 (53:04):
I don't care if it's Elon or anybody else who
thinks that they are more important or gonna get more
intention that that ain't happening. So at any rate, we'll
see I have this well, thinking that the government might
shut down.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Well, we don't have to. We don't have to see it.
Here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
This is the vote they voted and thirty Republicans voted
against it, and so the sucker failed two thirty one
to one seventy three. And I'm telling you, joy, if
if I if I'm hockey, I'm over there going.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
It ain't my fault. What time is it? It ain't
my fault.

Speaker 8 (53:43):
Let me tell you what, Hi, Kim Jefferson needs to
do what I'm doing right now. He needs to be
sending out his holiday cards. Listen, As I said earlier,
Donald Trump clearly thought this was a deal that was
okay to let go because it would not have happened.
They would not have got that far along if the
speaker did not think this was okay with the former president,

(54:07):
incoming president, the president elect, Elon Musk, when it all
comes out, he got out in front of the president
and decided to scuttle the deal.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
No, no, got he got in front of uh, he
got in front of Trump. He didn't get in front
of the president. He got in front of Trump.

Speaker 9 (54:26):
But I got you exactly exactly.

Speaker 8 (54:29):
That is going to be a problem to what we
just to what my co panelists just said, that cannot
continue to happen. Donald Trump is not good for democracy.
Of course, but it's really not good for Donald Trump's ego.
There is no way Elon Musk did this with the
permission of Donald Trump. He might have been saving face now,

(54:51):
but Elon Musk is right if we call him the
president elect is not going to be Donald Trump, not
if he goes the way it is going right now,
which is why he's going to have to do something
to silence any line Musk. He can't have it, otherwise
they'll never be able to get any of the things
he wants done.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Now, listen the thing here, you needed two thirds vote.
You ain't gonna get that. And now they got to
figure it out. Greg And here's the deal. There are
real life repercussions, and you know, you know Elon Musk
and said, hey, we just shut the government down till
January twentieth.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Okay, if that's what y'all.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Want to do, gone right ahead, but watch essential just
watch a whole bunch of stuff not happen. And then
I love the.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Fact that they tried. They want that. Mike Johnson had
more than a month.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
To bring the folks back to vote, specifically on disaster relief.
He chose not to when they were real life disasters
going on in the country.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Say dog, it's called leadership. You didn't show.

Speaker 6 (55:58):
Any Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 7 (56:02):
I mean these white nationalists have caught the car. They're
the dog that caught the car. As we said as
early as November the fifth, sitting there in the studio
with you, they caught the car.

Speaker 6 (56:15):
They don't know what to do now.

Speaker 7 (56:19):
It's a difficult situation because Elon Musk, within days of
the election, said that there's going to be some short
term pain. This all partake. This a parteight son of
a partates South Africa. This clown at any rate, but
he's a billionaire many times over. Last night, Wednesday night,

(56:39):
he's sitting at mar A Lago with his clownish friend
and Jeff Bezos, who interfered with the trinket newspaper he
bought because his concern, like Elon Musk's concern, is tuling
up their rockets so they can lead the rest of
our asses here. But the bottom line is the halves
are going to be fine. Tsa folk are essential personnel.

(57:03):
So everyone traveling in the next week, in the next
two weeks, you'll be able to be winded and go
through and take me your shoes off and going through
clear or whatever you're gonna do.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
But guess what, those.

Speaker 7 (57:12):
People aren't gonna get paychecks if the federal government shuts down.
Elon Musk will be eating whatever he eats in his
billionaire pajamas with his friend Jeff Bezos and his other
friends as they rent Trump out to go for broke.

Speaker 6 (57:25):
But they are.

Speaker 7 (57:25):
Gonna be real people harmed in this. And the bottom
line is sure, sit back and watch the chaos, But
that chaos is gonna include your grandmother. That chaos is
going to the people who are working two and three
jobs who can't make ends meet anymore. The chaos is
gonna include, as you said, folks who won't get hurricane
relief because the white nassas at the federal level modeling

(57:47):
the white NASAs in North Carolina don't give a damn
about those people.

Speaker 6 (57:50):
Finally, but Maga Muppett had a deal. This super super
super super super super super.

Speaker 7 (57:56):
Super backbencher, as Congresswoman Crockett said, who they had to
pull out of the cracker they toes to put in
as speaker because they failed fifty thousand times to elect
a speaker. He had a deal. But if this is
the type of transactional chaos. Again, to quote what you
said earlier, you are chaos. If this is the type
of transactional kas we're gonna see going forward, all bets

(58:20):
are off. Donald Trump is transactional. You're scratching behind the ear.
Maybe if you're Disney, you lay down for him and
you settle, and then maybe he wakes up in the
middle of the night and decides, I'm still against them.
And guess what that poster in Iowa and the news world,
I'm gonna suit them too. And guess what, I'm gonna
go get somebody to round up somebody else here. They're
all bets are off, Eli Muskin, go sit on an

(58:43):
island somewhere. But the people who do the living and
dying in this society are in harm's way at this point.
And quite frankly, I don't know if anybody in the
federal government has an answer.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Well getting used to this, I mean might as well,
might as well, and you know what, that's what they wanted.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
And guess what.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Trump can't say anything because elon spending was three hundred
three hundred fifty bill a million dollars buy the presidency, Okay,
And then now Musk is threatening any Republican who doesn't vote,
who votes against who votes for the CR bill, They're
gonna get primary to VIAZ money. They're gonna they're gonna threaten. See,
here's what we're about to see, lawng which I think

(59:32):
is gonna be really, really fun.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
We're about to see whether Republicans.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Actually going to have any guts and tell an Elon
Musk to go f himself. Because here's the deal, this
is what's gonna happen on any bill going forward. They're
going to threaten, They're going to threaten them.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
But here's the problem.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Their margin is so small that literally all it takes
is three members Matt's four members to go nope.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
And I saw if a Chip Roy and three others.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Go, we'll give a damn what you think You're going
to keep adding money to the deficit. I'm not gonna
support it. It's gonna shut everything down. The biggest thing
is for Haiki to keep his folks in line.

Speaker 18 (01:00:20):
Oh, he'll be able to keep his folks aligned because
you know, you just saw thirty people thirty Republicans acide
not so much.

Speaker 25 (01:00:27):
We're not really into this.

Speaker 18 (01:00:29):
Uh yeah, and we haven't gotten to the US Senate,
by the way, to the US Senate. You know, he
thinks he can primary everybody. Okay, I know he's got
a lot of money. Okay, that's great, fine, good for you.
I can guarantee you that on the US Senate side,
you are not going to have everybody just doing what
you say. Now, they may get that, certainly on judges.
I mean, there's certain things that yes, you're gonna see.

(01:00:49):
But when we start getting into things like cutting Social Security,
destroying the Affordable Care Act, you know, these are the
things that you start getting phone calls on. I don't
care what state you're in, whether you're right, left, or
anything else, you are going to get calls on Social Security.
Social Security is keeping millions of Americans out of poverty.
And so Elon Musk can play games and run his

(01:01:11):
mouth and threaten and all this other stuff. At some point,
someone is going to wake up to the fact that, oh,
wait a minute, there's a guy that was came into
this country illegally, who's an Afrikaan or trying to run
the United States. There's no way in the United States,
no way in the world that these senators and these
members of the House, even the craziest maga ones are
going to sit for that, because the way politics works

(01:01:33):
is everybody wants to be in control, everybody wants power,
everybody wants to matter. And him dictating on Twitter how
we're going to run the government isn't going to sit well,
particularly on the US Senate side.

Speaker 25 (01:01:43):
We haven't seen that part yet. We're just looking at
the House now.

Speaker 18 (01:01:47):
They may go along certainly with Trump, but remember this
is not Trump that we're dealing with right now. There's
actually somebody else, some guy that came over here and
thinks he can do anything he wants because he's got
some money, which, by the way, was funded by taxpayers.
Most of this is subsidy, and you know, you start
fooling around with farm subsidies and stuff like that, I'm
telling you, this thing crashes and burns quicker than we think.

(01:02:11):
The question is rolling what happens after the collision, because
they are going to have a collision.

Speaker 25 (01:02:16):
It's going to be a collision of egos.

Speaker 18 (01:02:17):
It's going to be a collision of reality, and it's
going to be a collision of realizing that you don't
have enough votes to do certain things, even in the
House or the House of course there's five votes off,
but it's actually tighter than that because there's a group
of people sitting there in these really close districts, Democrats
and Republicans.

Speaker 25 (01:02:33):
They're not just going to go along with the program.

Speaker 18 (01:02:34):
So what happens after it crashes and burns is what's
going to be interesting to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Well, speaking of crashing and burning, we'll talk about Amazon
workers going on strike where Jeff Bezos, he's whining and dining.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
With Donald Trump in mar Lago.

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You are watching Roland Martin unfiltered? Boy, he always unfiltered,
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That mer Largo when Jeff Bayos and Loreene Sanchez they
travel there to have dinner with the thug in chief?

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Come on, go to my pet. So you see them
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Into marl Largo, all the different people who were there,
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Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
And so here's the deal. So let's juxtapose this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
You know the world is his second world, second third
richest man going there to kiss Trump's ass, And let's
juxtapose that with this today in New York where the
NYPD broke a strong teamster's picket line. There was protests
in seven states Amazon workers and they've been demanding better treatment.

(01:06:46):
And you have the NYPD who was literally breaking the
picket line, and people were trying to understand, like, what
the hell are y'all doing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
There was one point this brother.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Here was arrested because he didn't want to to piccolizing,
so the cops arrested him. I mean, if you you
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Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
So I'm just curious, Joey, who does the n y
p D blue work.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Who does the n y p D work for They
worked for the City of New Yorker to work for
Jeff Bezos.

Speaker 8 (01:07:35):
Well, in this new oligarchy, they might work for Jeff Bezos.
You know, I really, I really don't know. None of
this is surprising. It's not surprising that Jeff Bezos owns
the Washington Post, and for the first time, uh in
decades upon decades, they chose not to allow their editorial page,

(01:08:00):
their editorial page to.

Speaker 9 (01:08:04):
You know, to endorse the candidate to make a recommendation.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Here is the video.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Here's a video the team's just released talking about their
largest strike ever against Amazon.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Watch.

Speaker 9 (01:08:19):
People are excited for the strike. We've been waiting for
this day.

Speaker 27 (01:08:22):
We've been grapping of the day that they get to see.

Speaker 9 (01:08:25):
How strong we are.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
This is our chance to truly make history.

Speaker 28 (01:08:30):
Teamsters have voted to authorize a strike. It's seven Amazon facilities.
Those include warehouses in Staten Island and Queens, the Chicago
suburb of Skokie, and four in southern California.

Speaker 23 (01:08:42):
Amazon doesn't want us to realize the power that we
have as Amazon workers.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
It wouldn't be able to run without us.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Amazon is scared because they know that with the power
of the union, they're going to have to dish.

Speaker 25 (01:08:53):
Out what they own.

Speaker 8 (01:08:54):
Amazon needs to understand that there's real people behind these bigs.
There's real people in these warehouses, and they need to
treat us.

Speaker 9 (01:09:00):
What the dignity that we deserve.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Deans right here fighting firelight.

Speaker 6 (01:09:04):
We are Amazon team steris.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
We delivered the packages, we make Amazon's process.

Speaker 6 (01:09:11):
We're demanded our fair share.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
We demand fair pay and save yn.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
What's going to be really interesting here, Lauren Teams just
chose not to endorse h Donald Trump, and so a
lot of them want to suck up to Donald Trump.
But he remember what he said to Elon Musk. He said, hey,
striking workers, fire all their asses. So let's see who
side Trump and the Republicans will be on. I got

(01:09:40):
a good guess it won't be the Union.

Speaker 18 (01:09:43):
Yeah, showing O'Brien is about to look really stupid, and
so are the Teamsters. And I'm not sure what planet
that they were on this entire year trying to pretend
that somehow Donald Trump was their friend. After it was
the Democrats, led by Joe Biden and Bobby Scott primarily,
who saved their pensions to the tunes of millions and

(01:10:04):
millions of dollars. So I'm not sure why the team
any of these other unions thought that this was cute
to not endorse or be slow to endorse the vice
president or any other Democrat. Quite frankly, would you know
would have been better than Donald Trump. But you know,
this is the game, this is the dumb, dumb game
that they're playing. You know, Jeff Bezos, all of these people, Zuckerberg,

(01:10:30):
they're trying to kiss Trump's posterior. It is not gonna work.
Nobody cares Trump is as inconsistent a person as we've
ever seen in any leadership position. You don't know what
he's going to say or do from one moment to
the next. And I'm not sure why they think having
meetings or giving money to him or anything else matters
one way or the other. Whoever is in his ear

(01:10:50):
last tends to win. There is no plan, there is
no direction. They're fooling themselves if there is. And really,
bezols performance this year with regard to not endorsing the
Washington Post.

Speaker 25 (01:11:05):
Was just odd.

Speaker 18 (01:11:06):
I'm surprised that David Shipley, the editorial board editor after
the great Fred Hyatt unfortunately passed away a few years ago.
I'm surprised he's still in that position. I just came
from an event for Bob Cusak, the long term editor
for The Hill newspaper, and you know, there's a rumor

(01:11:28):
we're trying to find out from Bob whether or not
he knew why it was that the Post is having
trouble hiring top editors. Apparently there's some new plan in
there that is dissuading a lot of people, and they
finally hired somebody from the Wall Street Journal. I think today.
That's gonna be problematic. They're gonna start to they're gonna

(01:11:49):
lose money. As you know, they lost two hundred and
fifty thousand subscribers after Bezos made that decision, which is
a ton of money. And I know that Bezos obviously
has enough money to sustain in the post and sort
of just pay for the losses, but I doubt that
he'll be, you know, wanting to do that for a
extended period of time.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
It is going to bit Listen, if you're in a union,
you got to get geared up because the Republican Party
is absolutely anti union. And I think there's going to
be a massive class greg because you have an increasing
number of people who are seeing the value in unions.
And I think what you're about to see, you're about

(01:12:30):
to see folk are going to be really confronted with
And I'll say this here, these white union folks.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Are you going to choose.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Your white identity politics over your pocketbook like you've always had?

Speaker 6 (01:12:45):
Well, I mean that's the question.

Speaker 7 (01:12:47):
You know, it's really dizzying when you think about everything
that an informed citizens of citizenry would have to at
least have an awareness in order to you know, move
differently politically. And I say that because you know, there

(01:13:09):
was some rumbling last month, late last month when Trump
tapped Lorie Chavez derimer as an as the nominee to
lead Department of Labor, daughter of a teamster, grew up
in San Joaquin Valley in California, certainly on her face,
more labor friendly than what you would expect. We all

(01:13:30):
remember the ancient Wilbur Ross shaking aluminum cans and whatever
else in his stupords.

Speaker 6 (01:13:36):
He's still alive, but.

Speaker 7 (01:13:38):
At any rate, this is different, Sean O'Brien, As you say, Lauren,
you know, speaking at the Republican National Commission, and then
of course the teams just don't come out for anyone.
Donald Trump is transactional, so you know, maybe that cuts
in favor of labor. When he's sitting there in his

(01:13:59):
own stupor at Mary Lago with his billionaire friends, maybe
he looks at Jeff Bezos and says, Sean Bryan's my friend.
Cut them a break, at which point Bezos looks at Musk.
They make a call and maybe junior varsity vance, who's
been very quiet, It's like, no worry, we got this
guy surrounded, is do we pull the twenty fifth Amendment. Now,

(01:14:19):
in other words, we're talking about a transactional clown in
the seat of president, but we're talking about him being
surrounded by people who do have plans. Now, the question
is whether the plans like Steve Bannon, who wants to
destroy the entire administrative state and it is sitting in
a catbird seat. Now, whether the ultra white nationalist Stephen Miller,

(01:14:44):
who wants to throw everybody out the country and got
Justin Trudeau running down to Mary Lago and the President
of Mexico, doctor Schinbaum, taking all of her fingers down
except the middle one as she threw it up and said.

Speaker 6 (01:14:57):
You want to dance this dance this dance me.

Speaker 7 (01:14:59):
And while finally looming over all of this, it's China.
Thomas Freeman had a long or you know, Thomas Freeman,
who's in many ways the columnists for Empire for US Empire,
just came back from China and he shook his hell.
They've got the entire supply chain. You want to talk about,
Tesla and Elon Muskin. China has the minerals for the batteries.

(01:15:23):
China has the complete supply chain. China is building dark factories.
That means the only human beings in the factory the
people who come in to check the machines once or
twice a day, and they don't even turn the lights
on in there because the machines are building everything. So
when Donald Trump comes in and says, bring back all
these jobs, and you got to invest in the United States.
You saw the Japanese dude came up. I'll put a
hundred million. The Chinese to be like, we're building a

(01:15:45):
hundred factories.

Speaker 6 (01:15:45):
What do you want them? Because here's the thing. We're
gonna build a factory.

Speaker 7 (01:15:48):
And when you gonna roll up to him and there's
nobody in there, yeah, that's a dark factory. There's no
such thing as organized labor when you don't have human
beings working. So when the Amazon strike emerges, as it does,
I hate to say this, I really do. I got
a lot of friends who would consider themselves super leftists,
who would say this is the way it had to
go in order to galvanize the people who are the

(01:16:11):
lowest down on the ladder to finally do something. We
might see a renaissance in organized labor. If for no
other reason, then the lines are clearly drawn between the
oligarchs and the rest. And I don't want to be
part of that small negro petty bourgeoisie that tries to
get in away these people and tell them vote harder
next time, because unless the Democrats change their game plan,

(01:16:34):
that shit ain't gonna work again.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Well, it's a whole lot going on. And speaking of that,
you know, I had a few words to say the
other day about at Le Chai Lyndy Lee and she
still running her mouth on Fox News.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
So let me do this here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Let me go to the break and let me just
get y'all the wear in and Jamie, Jamie Harrison man,
he just called her out as an opportunities. I'm gonna
show y'all his tweet as well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Lots to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
About when we come back right here on Rolevard Unfiltered
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Speaker 14 (01:21:05):
November fifth was a decisive defeat for the Democratic Party.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
She lost every single swing state.

Speaker 14 (01:21:11):
It wasn't a squeaker like it was in twenty sixteen.
This is a resounding defeat. And right now Kamala Harris
is indulging in delusions of running for governor of California,
possibly in twenty twenty six or even president again in
twenty twenty eight. America has said this is not what
we don't want to be coconut pilled. We do not
want Kamala Harris. We don't want failed border policies. And
I feel like I'm liberated and I can finally tell

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the truth that the Democrats completely failed on the border.
Title forty two was a tremendous mistake, and no one
is willing to say that. And you shouldn't have to
be You shouldn't be called bigoted or racist because you
want strong borders for the United States. And you should
be able to say that the economy was ailing under

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the Biden Harris administration, that price hags did indeed happen,
but they deny that for the first three years of
the administration, and when they finally did something, it was
too late.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Well, Linda, you're interesting to listen to her run her
mouth talking about the economy when the United States actually
the economy has recovered at a faster rate than every
other major nation in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
But I guess little Lindy overlooks that.

Speaker 13 (01:22:22):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
And so she's been running around again. She just been
running her mouth, y'all left and right on Fox News.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
And she's been everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
She's going on Piers Morgan shows, She's been uh everywhere,
just you know, her little nonsense, and you know, and
this is literally the most attention, uh, this little child
has ever gotten, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Uh. Then then she then she does this interview with
this again. She talking to everybody. She talking to some
little fool here.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Some dude on News Nation we ain't never even heard of,
and she claims that all the DNC is a complete turmoil.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Listen to this show. Turmoil. Are people leaving?

Speaker 14 (01:23:11):
It's absolutely in turmoil. People are stepping down. Yeah, and
there are going to be elections.

Speaker 22 (01:23:17):
What about the current hierarchy leadership at the NC.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
I mean almost everyone's going to be gone.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
They're just going to be gone gone.

Speaker 14 (01:23:25):
Yeah, They're going to be gone.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
To be clear, I thought it was just obvious that
it was a disaster.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
Yeah, I just thought it was obvious.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Okay, first of all, you have no power, nobody even
knows you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
And if you want to talk about getting roasted, Jamie Harrison,
who is the outgoing chair of the Democratic National Committee,
let's just say Jamie does not think highly of little
Lindy Lee at all at all, and so he dropped

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this tweet here today said Narcissism Incarnate has truly found
a home and an audience. On election day, she Lindy Lee,
was anchored at the terance of the Harris election night reception,
attempting to greet and take selfish with any and all
notable Democrats. This is yet another desperate cry for attention.

(01:24:26):
I also love how she gives herself all of these
elaborate DNC titles.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Next Queen Regnant of the DNC.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Whatever she creates next, she should add former, go get
that contributor contract. Lindy, This here, to me is hilarious
joy because.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
She she again here. This is what I find to
be interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
If you got so much to say about why the
party lost, what they should have done, why y as
not running for DNC chair?

Speaker 25 (01:25:02):
Correct, listen.

Speaker 8 (01:25:06):
I mean I think we're going to discover that Lindy
might have a few loose screws.

Speaker 9 (01:25:16):
There are people like that, and I hate to say it,
but it's true.

Speaker 8 (01:25:19):
And you can always get someone to pay attention to
you if you say crazy things, or if you say
things to have you know, maybe some elements of truth
in it. But the way she's going about it is
not normal. And to suggest that there's anything to be
taken from the fact that people are resigned and are
being they are going to be elections held. That happens

(01:25:41):
at the end of every four years. So I mean,
we get new DNC members, we get a new d
n C leader. This is not surprising.

Speaker 25 (01:25:50):
This is normal.

Speaker 8 (01:25:52):
And if she was, you know, as important as she was,
she would know that she's trying to get attention.

Speaker 9 (01:26:00):
Happy to not give her.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
Any well, and you can always expect this. Here here's
her on Peers Morgon, I'm going to leave the Democratic Party.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Your role is pretty nice woman.

Speaker 30 (01:26:09):
She would not inspire me to open a bag of chicks.
I mean seriously, And I think that she sort of
personifies now that goes to Christmas past as does Biden.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
The Democrats have got to move on quickly, haven't they.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 13 (01:26:27):
She's indulging delusions or running for governor in California in
twenty twenty six, and perhaps he've been running for president
in twenty twenty And I just want to echo what
a lot of you guys already said.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
This past week has been hairing for me.

Speaker 13 (01:26:39):
This is just this Saturday, I went on Fox and
Friends and I said that Democrats have a stench of.

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
Loser hangover them.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Yeah, as soon as.

Speaker 13 (01:26:46):
I said that, there were boycott campaigns against me, unblock
unfollowed campaigns. I lost forty thousand followers, really in four days.
People have called me the W word. I don't know
what we're allowed to say, but you can fill them by.

Speaker 25 (01:27:02):
Am I allowed to.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
Apparently I'm a well.

Speaker 13 (01:27:06):
They called me a whore, they called me the S word,
They asked for me to be deported, and you can
just you can just search.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
For my name in those terms on X and you'll
see a bunch of them.

Speaker 13 (01:27:16):
So, you know, all these so called Democrats, the Party
of Inclusion, the Party of Diversity, masks off. And it's
even worse because they pretend to occupy the moral high ground,
at least from the Republicans. You know, they are who
they are, But with Democrats they pretend to be, you know,
so loving and caring and embracing of diversity. But all

(01:27:37):
of a sudden, when I dare to utter any criticisms
of the Goddess Kamala Harris, I get ostracized. Me after
having raised tens of millions of dollars for the party,
and I'm being called a griff German.

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
All along all these ears.

Speaker 13 (01:27:53):
I've sat on TV, I've said to the press, I'm
a conservative Democrat.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
This is not a switch for me.

Speaker 6 (01:28:00):
This is just me.

Speaker 13 (01:28:01):
This is who I've always been. And also, my donors
are pissed. They raised two point five billion dollars across
super Pack in the campaign. It's my responsibility, it's my
duty of care.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
To ask, what the hell.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Okay, first of all, Boom, you didn't raise two point
five billion dollars. Let's just be real clear right there.
And this is just laughable Lauren again, but this is oh, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Just a victim.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
They're boycotting me there, yes, because you're literally aiding the enemy.
And then this whole deal, Oh, how Republicans are who
they are and Democrats about diversity. But this is the
same person who criticize identity politics. I mean, come on this.
And then she said they called me a whore. I
saw people call her an attention whore.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
That's what I saw. Now I don't use that, I'm
not gonna use that language. I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
But the bottom line is she is desperate to get
a TV contributed. She is desperate because here's the deal.
If the two places that you consistently go to are
gonna be Fox News news station and then add on
Piers Morgan. I think it's obvious. I mean, what the
hell you muys we go to newsbacks and o an next.

Speaker 18 (01:29:16):
Well, it's a joy's point, you know, there's no quicker way.
I mean, this is some this is some high planes
grifting that we're watching. So it's a combination of two things.
There's no quicker way to get on television, particularly Fox,
then to hate the group that you belong to, particularly
if you're black. So if you go on and say, okay,

(01:29:36):
I'm a black person that hates other black people and
says a bunch of negative stuff about black people, they'll
book you immediately. If you're a Democrat and she's a
so called conservative Democrat, whatever that is, that's an oxymoron.
You tell Fox booker producer, ooh, I'm going to get
on as a Democrat and criticize other Democrats.

Speaker 25 (01:29:53):
I'll put you right on. That's the first thing that
we're watching.

Speaker 18 (01:29:57):
So of course she's trying to get a contributed to contract,
and that's the path way to that. The other thing
we're watching is sort of a you know, a reaction
to losing a shocking loss, and people deal with failure
in different ways. And you can see with jank Unger
and Joe Scarborough it's kind of like a Stockholm syndrome

(01:30:19):
type of thing. Well, my captor, I'm now going to
try to be friendly with the people that have kidnapped me,
that are that are problematic. And so they've just sort
of given up and thrown their hands up. And you know,
you see people online like Mark Elias, who's fighting, right,
You see a lot of people were fighting. But a
lot of people what they're trying to do is they're

(01:30:39):
trying to be friends with the enemy. Some of that
is just fear and cowardice, and some of it I
think is strategicy, you know, political strategy.

Speaker 25 (01:30:48):
I'm going to you know, if you can't beat them,
join them.

Speaker 9 (01:30:51):
The problem with all of that, of course, is that
Donald Trump is a lunatic.

Speaker 18 (01:30:55):
This is not somebody that is just an opposing candidate
in the same sense that we had, you know, sort
of like I say, in the Reagan years or even
Nixon or somebody like that. I mean, you played even
though Nixon was a dirty politician, there was still some
rules there.

Speaker 14 (01:31:08):
You know.

Speaker 25 (01:31:09):
I often think to myself.

Speaker 18 (01:31:10):
If Nixon was alive today, he would say to himself, really,
I mean, you know, this is quite interesting any rate.
But but you know, Trump is on another level. These
people actually dangerous.

Speaker 6 (01:31:21):
You know.

Speaker 18 (01:31:22):
I actually think there's a chance that they could collapse
the government. You know, when they get into power. That
is not off the table. So a lot of these
people have given into that, from Bezos to Joe Scarborough.
It is really embarrassing to watch it breaks their brand.
This woman doesn't have a brand because nobody knew who
she was, So this is kind of a desperate thing
to sort of align yourself with, align yourself with the

(01:31:46):
people you've been fighting against for so many years. It's
really sort of pathetic to watch, you know. And really
you can never trust these people because what happens is
when they meet a moment of great adversity and turncoat
and lack courage. I mean, you can never trust an
individual like that again, as opposed to the people that
you do see fighting online in the Party and the

(01:32:08):
Democratic Party right now against Trump no matter what.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
And here's why, you know, when you listen to this
year stupidity, Greg, you gotta laugh at it. I recall
a lot of people saying, oh my god, this is it.
Will never see Trump again. He can't recover from this.
It just can't happen. How many times did Biden run

(01:32:33):
for president before he gets elected in twenty and twenty.
So this whole, this constant attack on Vice President Kamala Harris.
I'm not going to say, I'm not going to say, oh,
somehow it's going to be a cakewalk that she can
win the nomination. She could easily get elected. But this notion,
this idea that she can't run again, is just stupid.

(01:32:54):
And if anybody paying attention to the whole deal, here's
the other deal that it is, like Lindy Lee don't
want to own up to.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
And the Wall Street Journal had an article d.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Today talking about how there was this protective cocoon around
President Joe Biden from the moment he came into the
White House. The fact of the matter is, had President
Biden run, Democrats would have gotten crushed, and they would
have gotten crushed.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Let's be clear.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
Vice President has lost by one point six percent. Okay,
it wasn't a blowout, she didn't get torched. That you
lose battleground states answers, Yes, But The bottom line is
this here. They also held Senate seats, they increased their
margin in the House, and they would actually control the
House if it wasn't for political jeret mandering in North Carolina.

(01:33:46):
And so this is what's silly and what a Lindy
Lee won't say on Fox News as she's trashing Vice
President Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
The Biden campaign was out of money. They were broke.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
The money either the Vice President Harris raised when she
jumped in saved their asses. Oh you know, there's video
of Lindy Lee saying, oh my god, I raised It
would take me forever to raise a million dollars. I
raised two million in a week when Vice President Harris
got in. So she had all these things to say. Now,

(01:34:20):
if you want to break down what happened, then you
do that. You look at some of the decisions made.
You say, okay, did it make sense spending the money
on all these concerts as opposed to putting money on
the ground. How about bringing up the New York Times
article of black staffers getting together and saying, hey, you

(01:34:41):
know in Pennsylvania, in Philadelphia, we've got to create our
own plan because of headquarters is screwing this thing up
and they didn't tell them or what was happening in
Georgia as well. Why is it that Lindy Lee, she's
got so much said about Vice President Kamala Harris, but
she ain't got to say about jenem Malley Dillon and
Stephanie Cutter and David Pluff and Quentin folks.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
That was the top four folks in the campaign. What
about all of that? And so that's what I'll say.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
If you're a Democrat and you're pissed off that you lost,
what you do is you actually say, let's assess what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
What you don't do is is you don't go into.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
The enemy territory of Fox News and all of a
sudden and you're getting booked everywhere. And let's be real clear,
before this election and before after November fifth, didn't nobody
know who the hell Lindy Lee was. Nobody this So
Jamie Harris is absolutely right. And so if you want
to figure out why you lost, that's what you do.

(01:35:41):
But your damn sure don't do it by tearing down
somebody who actually who actually helped keep your damn party
together after the debacle of the June twenty seventh debate.

Speaker 6 (01:35:54):
Yeah, it was all the debacle.

Speaker 7 (01:35:55):
And again, these narratives are so absurd that to eat
and spend any time on them, you have to do
it because we're inundated with them. But again, I mean,
it's not a broken record. We have to underscore this,
especially now. This is the unmistakable, indelible, foundational importance of

(01:36:15):
Blackstar Network, and these conversations you know, make believe has
completely capsized the idiocracy that is the American electorate. You
have a man who, if he completes a four year term,
will be older than Biden is now, and then they
talk about giving them another term.

Speaker 6 (01:36:34):
Where's the age issue? Now?

Speaker 7 (01:36:35):
There is no age issue. There wasn't an age issue
with Biden. Forget his diminished capacity. Forget his diminished capacity.
You are I'm saying that in service the of this,
this broader point, the Democratic Party is full of unforced errors.
I mean, when we look back again, however, many years
in the future, the story of this election. I'm convinced

(01:36:58):
at this point. I mean, I always open to be unconvinced,
but it's gonna be voted suppression and disinformation.

Speaker 26 (01:37:05):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:37:05):
The fact that the Democrats got as close as they
got with all the unforced error.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (01:37:09):
I mean, God, God bless Congressman Jim Clyburn. But let's
be very clear. Part of the part of this message
your fault. You riding with Biden, and then you tell
Biden to put Jamie Harrison in charge of the Democrat
National Committee. Jamie Harrison could even beat little Lynn Graham.
And so I mean, so they are they are.

Speaker 6 (01:37:25):
The monarchs of unforced errors.

Speaker 7 (01:37:27):
And with this leadership, not even fight they had this
earliest week, they showing you they're gonna quadruple down on
soft white nastas.

Speaker 6 (01:37:35):
So I mean that's where we are now.

Speaker 7 (01:37:38):
That haven't been said as it relates to miss Land
and you know with book snobs. First of all, I
don't know what that was behind her in that shot,
but the power broker Robert Carroll's book, those those those
Lyndon Johnson volumes, Uh, you know John Meachum and all
those books about they're not the same side. So whatever
store you got to give you them cut outs with

(01:37:59):
look like book titles on the back, let me tell
you right now, you own most of the books that
were behind you. Those aren't books behind her. So I
think that sums up metaphorically what she is. In other words,
this is what Lauren said. You just trying to get
a check. And like Laura said, she's gonna get a check,
It's gonna be a lot of people get checks. I
don't know how our friend Eddie claud gets up in

(01:38:21):
the morning and goes in there and watch that hard
right now'sa Joe Scarborough and Menka talk, Mika talk. I
don't know how he's gonna do it for two three
four years. But God bless Eddie. Everybody getting a check
now here at the black Star Network.

Speaker 6 (01:38:34):
That is not the case.

Speaker 7 (01:38:35):
When y'all donate money here, it goes right back into
the infrastructure. This place is more important than ever because
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(01:38:55):
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to the issue. Disinformation and voter suppression gonna be the
story here, and the narrative is constantly changing. Joe Biden
too old, but Donald Trump is a thousand years old.
Let's give him fifty more years.

Speaker 6 (01:39:17):
Let's be clear.

Speaker 7 (01:39:18):
This is all the circus, It's all the charade in
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Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
So I'm always, I'm always.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
I love the people who got lots to say, but
then they forgot that there's video.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Of the other stuff that they see.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
So this is a tweet that was posted July twenty ninth,
twenty twenty four. Super honored to be officially credential by
the Harris Campaign as a creator for the Democratic National Convention.
This is the first time in the history that influencers
will have lusive access Chicago be taken over, watch this space.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
Listen.

Speaker 13 (01:40:08):
I am so excited to be one of the creators
at this year's Democratic National Convention. This is the first
time in history that creators will be credentialed. We'll give
you inside look Street from the convention floor. I can't
wait to share history in the making with you. I
love you all and can't wait to see you soon.

Speaker 6 (01:40:25):
Was good?

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
Okay, all right, So that's not only video I want
to show y'all. Allow me to find.

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
Show you this other Lyndi Lee video, because again it's
amazing what people have to say. Now I remember all
this shoes, all this trash about Vice President Harris.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
This is from August fourth, twenty twenty four, with your.

Speaker 31 (01:40:52):
Position there as the National Finance Committee you're on that
the Harris campaign having raised three hundred and ten million
dollars in July.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
That is a huge number.

Speaker 31 (01:41:01):
I know you're going to be hosting a fundraiser for
Harrison Philadelphia. So now that the campaign has the money,
how do you spend it most effectively?

Speaker 13 (01:41:11):
Well, three words, essentially, Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania. And that's the
case for both campaigns. Both campaigns committed to have committed
to spend hundreds of millions of dollars in this state
because this is the tipping point state. And also, as
I mentioned before, she is now able to galvanize young
people in states that were formally completely out of play.

Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
Michigan is back.

Speaker 13 (01:41:33):
Young people who are disenchanted or completely tuned out are back.
The energy behind her her husband absolutely phenomenal. I don't
remember this level of excitement since I was a kid
cheering for Senator Obama. This is just truly incredible, And
just for some perspective, it took me a year essentially
to raise one point one million for President Biden. It

(01:41:56):
took me a week to raise two million for Kamaloi.
So this is astounding and completely unprecedented.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
Well may help you out. It took you a year
to raise a million for Biden.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
It took those black men like myself, it took us
three hours to raise one point five.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
Just saying yeah, just no, no, no, no, I wouldn't.
I wasn't on that call.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
I'm talking about the black men call. So I'm speaking
of me. But I'm just saying you. She's sitting here like, oh, it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
Took me a year to raise a million and I
raised it in a.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Week with But I want people to understand, oh, she's
she brought the young people back. Michigan is now in play.
All of those things. See again, this is why you
have to play. What folks said, before before, before, remember

(01:42:52):
how again she was dogging. She dogged everybody. Huh, this
is what her talking about. Should Biden be removed moved?

Speaker 13 (01:43:00):
Yeah, I completely get you. I'm not here to tell
you otherwise. And I've had many conversations with donors, and
these are big donors.

Speaker 4 (01:43:08):
I'm talking like a million dollars each.

Speaker 13 (01:43:10):
The fundraising agreement that we currently have caps the individual
amount around I think it's nine hundred and sixty something dollars,
so close to a million dollars. So these these people,
I've been trying to talk them off the ledge. But
I also think there's something else that we should consider.
It's a Republican convention. Next week, Trump vows to unveil
his vice presidential pick. I think it's actually smart for

(01:43:32):
our party not to do anything drastic until we see
who he picks, because I can bet you, I'm willing
to bet that Trump is waiting at mar A Lago
to see if he's going to be running against a woman.

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
I completely so all of that, all of that talk,
all of that, all of that bluster after the fat
So this is what they say is people, actually you
actually show your true colors, not when you win, but
when you lose, you show your true self.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
If you want to see what people really feel about you,
Let's see what happens after you lose and not where
you win.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
And people like her, and there are other people like her,
There are people who are talking about blow the party up,
all these different things along those lines. And again I'm
just going to compare you to the other side. What
happened all of those people? January sixth is going to

(01:44:38):
be the end of Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
What happened? And what if they do? And this is
the whole thing here, see the real deal. She's talking
about Joyce, She's talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:44:48):
The border, the border, and she I'm a conservative Democrat,
all these things. And she told me, oh, I can
feel it the excitement around Trump and the economy. Okay,
not your herself out. But the question is what are
your values? And when they begin to make decisions that
are hurting people, then where are you going to be?

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
Little Lindy Lee? And if you want to leave the party,
go to leave the party. But you know what this
tells me.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
This tells me joy she never had uh, she never
had any credibility, She never had any fight in her.
If you are so weak that after two or three
days or television hits.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
You now ready to run girl by.

Speaker 8 (01:45:38):
Yeah, I don't know anyone who even really knows her.
So it's just so funny that she would be out there.
This is clearly a person who says whatever is you know,
the thing to say, du jour right, So today she
wants to get on Fox News. She probably has been
you know, has ostracized herself and the Democratic already, as

(01:46:00):
Jamie already said, put former in front of that. She
probably needs to do this professionally in order to get money.
We're smart out there at the Blackstar Network.

Speaker 14 (01:46:10):
We know what this is.

Speaker 9 (01:46:12):
This is a grift.

Speaker 8 (01:46:14):
And she's going to continue to do it as long
as we give her more attention, as long as they
pay her more money. There are lots of DNC members
out there who are doing the right thing. If they
see the party is going in the wrong direction in
their estimation, they're running for DNC vice chair, DNC secretary,
DNC whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
That's what we need.

Speaker 8 (01:46:35):
We need people who are willing to put themselves on
the line and to step up to try to lead
our party through this difficult period. And we don't do
that by trashing each other. You stick together, you make
your tweaks, and then you move on, because, as we've
already seen, the Republicans are not better at this.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
They are a disaster, and.

Speaker 9 (01:47:01):
They're going to prove that. We have to be ready
when the American people come back to us.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
I think learn that after any loss, there should be
an assessment of what happened. I believe that one of
the reasons you do that so you can look at
how do you get better, how do you change things,
how do you campaign differently, how do you stop using
certain white consultants, certain democratic communications firms and others that

(01:47:32):
are grifting, that are making millions of dollars buying their
second homes. There's yachts and things along those lines, and
they keep blowing things, and so you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
Actually do that. All those things are necessary.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
But I do believe when you do an autopsy about
why you lost, the whole point is so you can
look at potentially winning again. I think it's I think
it's idiotic for if you're a Lindi Lee or anyone
else to be attacking the person who came within one
point six percent of winning the White House. Lindy, you

(01:48:03):
ain't a matter of fact, I was told Lindy has
run for some stuff and she's lost every time.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
So that's what you also are looking at.

Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
And yet Democrats should be should be assessing what they did,
but you all should be looking at what you also won.

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
And that's also the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
The reality is that November fifth was not devastation for Democrats.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
It's not like the party got obliterated.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
November fifth was not like November twenty ten when they
got just just jacked in elections and lost the midterm elections.

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
That's not what happened. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
Your goal is to rebuild for twenty five and for
twenty six, and that's what smart people do.

Speaker 18 (01:48:51):
Yeah, I mean, that's called trul You know, one of
the problems here is that the party is not good
at after actions, particularly when we're talking about after actions
after a loss. I mean, there's a lot to unpack
with that, and there's some changes that I think certainly
should have been made. You know, to me, when Jasmine

(01:49:12):
Crockett didn't win the leadership, you didn't win the messaging
race with Debbie Dingle, I thought that was a bad sign.
And of course the other day Alexandria Cassio Cortez loses
the ranking member race by a pretty big margin to
Jerry Connelly. And Jerry Connelly is actually a good messenger,
but she is, She's on another level. She's one of

(01:49:33):
the best messengers politically in the country. So the party
is not good at figuring out, you know what it
is that is a losing proposition and making those changes.

Speaker 25 (01:49:47):
The party is just not good at that at all.

Speaker 18 (01:49:51):
I don't think anybody cares about Lindy Lee, Like nobody's
ever seen this woman before until this moment. In fact,
part of the game that she's playing is let me
say something outrageous and then everybody will pay attention to me.

Speaker 25 (01:50:03):
And of course that's happening.

Speaker 18 (01:50:05):
But you know, people like this become a complete waste
of time because they're not in the business of trying
to fix the problem. You know, you can't spend all
your time whining about, you know, all the things that
you think should have been done, that you should have
said before the election. You know, really, and to be

(01:50:25):
even more realistically to me, didn't have that much to
do with Vice President Harris. I mean, this moment happened
because a eighty one year old man decided and his
staff decided to hide from everybody the fact that he
was not able to pull this race off, a fact
that they should have known a good year and a
half before the actual election day. And so to me,

(01:50:48):
I've always you know, blamed people like General Malley Dylan
and Anita Done and that crew you know in there
that really concealed what was going on.

Speaker 25 (01:51:00):
And it's obvious. I mean, he's eighty two. He just
turned eighty two, right, So there's all of that.

Speaker 18 (01:51:05):
That's what sets this into motion where the vice president
is effectively forced to run a one hundred and seven
day presidential campaign, which has never been heard of in
the history of the United States. That's extremely difficult when
you're dealing with Donald Trump, who had been running.

Speaker 25 (01:51:19):
For four years his third race.

Speaker 18 (01:51:22):
So to me, that's the bigger issue, and it's interesting
that she never actually brings that up. But again, I
don't think she really matters all that much. I mean,
you want people who are in the business of really
trying to figure out what the answer is to winning,
and you know, they lost. The bottom line is the
Democrats lost. And it's not just that they lost. They
lost to somebody who is dangerous not only for our

(01:51:44):
democracy but dangerously careless with leadership as we're seeing right
now as we're talking.

Speaker 1 (01:51:52):
And I think the goal for African Americans great, And
this is the thing that people don't seem to understand.
And I love these yahoos, especially some of these people
who are in the chat. Roll on you're a Democrat,
never self identify as a Democrat.

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
No, I'm black, I'm black. I speak to you black interest.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
And when I look at parties and when I look
at people, I'm saying, who speaks to the interest of
black people? And there is nothing about Donald Trump that
speaks to the interest of black people unless you want
a pat on the head like Byron Donald's, unless you

(01:52:34):
want to unless you want to look like a buffoon
like that fool Vernon Jones out of Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
If those are the kind of black people you want,
go right ahead. Uh. And so that's what this is about.

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
And so what I'm looking at is who speaks to
the issues that black people care about. And I'm telling
you right now, people about to see for themselves. And
as a matter of fact, a whole bunch of these
FBA b one, all these people who had so much
smoke for Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. Oh, they're about

(01:53:10):
to see for themselves. You got Ed Bloom right now,
who said, oh he is going after the reparations bill,
and hell, it ain't even reparations.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
In New York, Kathy Holkle said, let's just do a commission.

Speaker 1 (01:53:24):
Oh, we're sewing, We're sewing, and so all these folks,
I can't wait to hear they Miles can't. I can't
wait to since they had so much smoke for Biden
and Harris. Okay, what y'all gonna say now?

Speaker 6 (01:53:42):
Brother?

Speaker 7 (01:53:43):
This is you know we talk about things being unprecedented.
You know, we we have seen this before. We've absolutely
seen it before. We were our ancestors were drug here
and change. For all the foundational Black American FB one
B when whatever the acronyms are, I call them black
faced nativists. If they really did know us history, they

(01:54:08):
would understand much more clearly that we have seen this before.
You lynch and drown, you drown, main, beat up, then
kill and dump into Tallahatchie River of fourteen year old
boy from Chicago, and then your friends get on the
jury and let you go, and then you sell your
story to Life magazine for profit. We are now in

(01:54:32):
the nineteen thirties, forties, and fifties, except now we have
the internet, nuclear weapons, so there's much more at stake now.
So we know how we organized at that point to resist,
but that doesn't work anymore, in part because one of
the things that desegregation did and integration did is erode

(01:54:53):
a sense of solidarity politics that was able at least
to prop up a nascent middle class in the black community,
ways in terms of a working class and the working poor,
enable us to come together enough to push through at
least some nominal.

Speaker 6 (01:55:06):
Gains in terms of legal rights.

Speaker 7 (01:55:10):
Now, you know what has changed since then, of course,
the industrialization and now we're talking about the end of
work as we know it, suppression of wages, all that.
All that, all that as a backdrop from what I'm
about to say. Now, when we talk about what we're
facing and what our options and solutions are, it seems

(01:55:30):
to me we've got to be a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:55:31):
Smarter than we've been.

Speaker 7 (01:55:34):
We are at a situation now where there are fewer
students in the first year class of African descent at
Harvard Law School that they were in the nineteen sixties.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (01:55:43):
And you know when I when I when I went
my first year of law school, my first semester, first
year of law school, Ohio State University, out of about
three hundred first year law students, there were eighteen of us,
seventeen first year students of African descent, and one brother
who's now ancestor Sammy ash Palestinian, who came with us.

Speaker 6 (01:56:01):
That was the Black Law Student Association.

Speaker 7 (01:56:04):
When I tell you, when I looked at those numbers,
and I think it was nineteen nineteens at about six
hundred at Harvard Law blooming and boys ain't playing no games.
And we have to understand this isn't about Jay z
or stephen A. Smith, This ain't about Diddy or who's
playing for this team or whatever. This is now about
a fight for all the marbles. And they may very

(01:56:25):
well destroy the United States of America. And I don't
mean there's gonna kill all of us, but I'm saying, look,
if Kamala Harris decides she wants to run and be
the governor and run for the governor of California, Bootage
Edge goes to Michigan and follows a big gretch.

Speaker 6 (01:56:39):
I'm not sure that that's not a bad thing to consider.

Speaker 7 (01:56:43):
Why, Because federalism at this point is in the balance,
and it could very well be that states rights, which
meant something very different than nineteen sixty to.

Speaker 6 (01:56:50):
Us, may take on a different meaning.

Speaker 7 (01:56:53):
With a Wes Moore in Maryland and with California mission,
we got to begin to think about this Rowland again.

Speaker 6 (01:57:00):
I mean, this is time for us to step it up.

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
And that's why by Democrats breaking the super majority of
the Republicans in North Carolina matters.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
Yes, that's why.

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
That's why twenty five making sure that Don Scott and
the Democrats maintained the House in Virginia so he remained
Speaker of the House. Again, that's about power. That's why
I said to black folks in Baton rouge, those of
you who stayed at home and allowed a black mayor

(01:57:32):
to lose to a white football coach who had never
run for office, and he is now in control of
billion oile a budget. That's absolutely nonsense. And so for
the people who are running around, who run their mouths
and all these people who yap on their YouTube channels
and who spend more time doing segments on what we
talk about on this show versus anything original, then if

(01:57:55):
y'all keep watching and listening to those fools, then you're
gonna get everything you deserve. And so people need to understand.
And I'm gonna say this again and close this show.
All y'all folks who think this is the game, you
are about to learn. They are going after every single
program they are going that directly benefits black people. They're

(01:58:20):
going after every scholarship program, fellowship program, every law firm
program in Corporate America NASDAC. They sue them, and NASDAK
no longer can have their diversity goals, requiring diversity on
their board of directors. They're going after everything because they say, oh, no,

(01:58:45):
we are being hurt, we're being discriminated against.

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
No, they don't want to see black advancement.

Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
Now, if some of you see, if some of you
so called negroes don't understand what's going on, okay, but
I'm telling y'all right now, they shutting it down, and
y'all are sitting here whining and complaining, Oh the Democrat
is and by this and harrass this. When they sitting here, Frankly,
I'm gonna go ahead and say it. They trying to

(01:59:13):
run a train on America.

Speaker 6 (01:59:15):
No question, no question.

Speaker 2 (01:59:18):
Maybe that's some language some of y'all might understand.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
They try to run a train on America, and so
let me tell you what. And some of y'all just
sitting here doing this here with your phone, just recording
it and not getting in the fight. Real quick, joy,
last comment.

Speaker 8 (01:59:36):
I'm a black Harvard law graduate. Harvard is going to
suffer from this decision.

Speaker 9 (01:59:43):
We had I think my year we had.

Speaker 8 (01:59:46):
Fifty to sixty black law students there. We enriched the
school of some great thinkers. Some of us even show
up on the Augustin Esteemed.

Speaker 9 (01:59:56):
Roland Martin show.

Speaker 8 (01:59:59):
Let me tell you what it is going to be
to their disadvantage, because let me tell you there were
some law schools who.

Speaker 9 (02:00:06):
Did not see a decline in black entrance. They figured
it out, well, you know, law schools with strong.

Speaker 8 (02:00:18):
Backgrounds who figured it out. So Harvard is the loser here.
Harvard is the loser here, and they're going to see
continual declines if they don't figure this out. I just
had to say this on behalf of all of my
black classmates.

Speaker 9 (02:00:33):
But a huge era.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
But the whole was intended.

Speaker 1 (02:00:37):
But the whole thing is not only key Black people
out of Harvard is to keep them out of high
pay corporate law jobs, keep them out of the Felow judiciary,
keep them out on all of that. And so folks
need to understand the game that's been played. And some
of y'all want to sit here and y'all cool with it, okay,
But I'm telling you right now, if you black and
you listen to any of these fools, then you you

(02:01:00):
deserve everything that comes because y'all have no idea, no
idea whatsoever what is about to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:01:09):
And as Greg said, we've been here before.

Speaker 1 (02:01:12):
So go do me a favor. Go read what those
Black Republicans said when they got railroaded with the Great
Compromise of eighteen seventy seven.

Speaker 2 (02:01:24):
Please, by all means, go see what they had to
say with that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:28):
Go read what they had to say about those Supreme
Court decisions about the civil rights laws in the eighteen
sixties and seventies, and then of course eventually plusy verus
ferguson all of those different things.

Speaker 2 (02:01:40):
Oh, we have been here before.

Speaker 1 (02:01:42):
And if y'all don't think this is trying to go
back to post reconstruction in Jim Crow, well, then all
this is is post reconstruction and Jim Co dressed up
in a nice suit. That's all it is. Lauren, Greg, Joe.
I appreciate y'all joining on the panel. Y'all have a
happy holiday. This is my last Thursday show before the holidays.

(02:02:05):
I leave for some rest on Sunday, so I will
see y'all after the first of the year. Thank you
so very much. Have a great Christmas, great kwans of
great New.

Speaker 6 (02:02:15):
Year's you two, you too, brother, Thanks, folks.

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