No charges in Leonard Cure death, Dems warn of massive Medicaid cuts, 21 DOGE staffers resign

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any charges on the fatal shooting of an exignerated black man.
The attorney for the family of Lenna cure. Harry Daniels
would join us on the show talk about this case. Also,

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Democrats of warning Americans for the largest medicate cut in history.

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October sixteen, twenty three, rent A Cure was shot by
a deputy officer in Georgia. That officer, who had been
fired from a previous job in law enforcement in twenty
twenty two, is not going to be in charge in
his death now Cure died three years after he was

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exonerated by Florida authorities, who freed him from prison.

Speaker 11 (15:29):
If he had served sixteen years for a crime he
did not commit.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
Now that traffic stop resulted in a violent struggle and
the fifty three year old was shot. Joining us right
now is Harry Danis. He is the attorney for the
Cure family. Harry, glad to have you here, so walk
us through. Why Why was the decision made by the
district attorney not to charge indict this officer?

Speaker 11 (16:00):
I think you had. The reason was because.

Speaker 16 (16:03):
Objectively, when they viewed the video and ask themselves the questions,
could they get a conviction in this case, particularly with
the use of force that led to the death of Missecure.

Speaker 11 (16:16):
I think that their answer was was no.

Speaker 16 (16:20):
To the extent, well could a civil liability, which is
the standard is different in a civil case preponderence of
the evidence versus beyond a reason of doubt.

Speaker 11 (16:30):
That's a different that's a different standard. But I think
when you.

Speaker 16 (16:33):
Look at the video, this entirety then leading up to
the shooting Missecure, I think the disc attorney's office concluded
that they don't believe they could be able to get
a conviction beyond a reason of doubt of any type
of crime or murder, a voluntail manslad against the officer.

Speaker 7 (16:51):
So what I want to do is I want to
roll this video from the beginning. Auto your up, please,
so folks could actually see what transper. All right, okay, guy,
let's roll it.

Speaker 17 (17:02):
Step out, step out, get out, get out.

Speaker 11 (17:25):
Put your hands back here.

Speaker 18 (17:26):
I ain't doing ship damn hands back here?

Speaker 9 (17:31):
There are you step stars and old sheriff's aw.

Speaker 8 (17:33):
My name is Yahwe.

Speaker 7 (17:35):
I don't care.

Speaker 19 (17:35):
Step to the rear of this vehicle in the name
in the name of Holdong, State of Georgia.

Speaker 7 (17:42):
Step back here. Now you're getting tags.

Speaker 8 (17:47):
I'm going watching me.

Speaker 7 (17:49):
Now, put your hand on the back of that truck.

Speaker 8 (17:52):
Do you see that?

Speaker 7 (17:53):
Put your hands on the back of that truck, back
of the truck, both hands turn around. Thirty four.

Speaker 11 (18:05):
Can issue me another unit in the one nine for plant.

Speaker 20 (18:10):
Hurt a car.

Speaker 17 (18:12):
Your name is off Staff's Argent haliders with the Stamney
County Sheriff Sounry Candy County.

Speaker 9 (18:18):
Put your hand behind your back.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Do I have it?

Speaker 7 (18:20):
Do I have a war?

Speaker 2 (18:21):
No?

Speaker 17 (18:21):
No, no, no, no no no no no excuse excuse
he put your hands behind your back cause you're getting tased.

Speaker 7 (18:26):
I'm telling you that right now.

Speaker 8 (18:27):
Why am I getting tell.

Speaker 17 (18:28):
You are under arrest for speeding and reckless driving?

Speaker 8 (18:31):
I'm not driving.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
Nobody was hurt.

Speaker 18 (18:33):
How was I speed?

Speaker 7 (18:34):
You passed me doing one hundred miles an hour?

Speaker 8 (18:36):
Okay, so that's a speeding ticket, right, sir?

Speaker 7 (18:39):
Take us instead of Georgia or criminal offenses.

Speaker 8 (18:41):
I don't have a ticket to George.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
You do.

Speaker 21 (18:43):
Now?

Speaker 7 (18:43):
Why you passed me doing one hundred miles of this?

Speaker 8 (18:46):
And what I am not going?

Speaker 7 (18:47):
Hands behind your back?

Speaker 17 (18:48):
Yes, you were going to jail?

Speaker 18 (18:51):
Hands on hundred back.

Speaker 7 (18:55):
Put your hands behind your back.

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Okay?

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Fire cabins, stay out, they're locked up, Stay down, stay out,
stay down.

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Gave a shot first, stay down?

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You send me?

Speaker 18 (19:59):
Hell stay down, stay down?

Speaker 8 (20:10):
Stay down?

Speaker 18 (20:25):
Damn Are you clear.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
A way everywhere? You come to?

Speaker 18 (20:33):
Stay down to knock it up?

Speaker 7 (20:41):
All right?

Speaker 3 (20:45):
You're not that PM.

Speaker 7 (20:46):
Yeah, par this wanted to understand what led to the
initial stop?

Speaker 5 (21:04):
What was what was?

Speaker 7 (21:06):
What was he doing?

Speaker 16 (21:08):
So it's it's video that we have and I don't
know if that's out to the public. I believe a
portion of this. Uh, mister Cure passed Deputy Alas buck
Alrich Uh speeding. He passed on the left side. He
was maintaining his lane and it was a simple speeding violation.

Speaker 11 (21:30):
It wasn't reckless. He just passed them on the left side.

Speaker 16 (21:32):
And I think it's the video actually may maybe said
all this maybe after he passed passed him, but he
passes him. Uh, and Aldridge comedian goes after him immediately. Uh,
it's just a pass right that you can see it
always go after him, turns lights on.

Speaker 11 (21:50):
Cure immediately begins to go to the right there to
the right and begins to pull over.

Speaker 16 (21:56):
There's no high speed chase, there's no endangering the public
other motors on the road. None of those factors took place.
You can see where the deputy gets behind him. You
can see he started turns break lights on that you
can see now, and he took his turn his sizars
lights signal light on and beginning to get over that.

Speaker 11 (22:19):
Although unlawful to speed.

Speaker 16 (22:22):
In the state of Georgia or any and a lot
of other states, he's still a compliant motors when he
began to pull over, uh and pull over for the officer. Lawful,
but the officer get behind it, put his life songs,
began to pull over.

Speaker 8 (22:34):
What happens.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
I want to do this now, so I want to
do this now. I want to do this now. So now,
so now we have that, all right, So so control room. Now,
I want you to play the beginning of the bad
that we just showed, because.

Speaker 11 (22:47):
I remember this.

Speaker 7 (22:48):
I remember this vivid lea when we first aired it,
and I talked about the actions of the officer at
the level of aggressiveness. So now folks rolling, so now
we saw him passing. Now went to bullboards are the right?
Now let's play again, and I want to see the
beginning of this for the audience. Go before we change

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the items ten games.

Speaker 17 (23:24):
Step out, stop out, get out, get out, put your
hands back here.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
I ain't doing shit.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Come on, all right.

Speaker 7 (23:37):
So this is this is precisely the issue that I had,
and this is.

Speaker 23 (23:43):
What I don't want.

Speaker 7 (23:44):
And this is the problem I believe when it comes
to police in these stories, the police, this officers his tone,
his actions. He escalates a situation from the beginning. He
escalates how he's yelling, has approaching. It's a speeding violation

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to your point, So it's not like this is a
really major deal here. His actions establish the tone for
how this traffic stop proceeded, right, And one of.

Speaker 16 (24:23):
The things that we're dealing with, particularly Ben and I
and his lawsuit, you're talking about speeding. He said he's
going one hundred miles a bottle. There's no way Alrich
could determine that because all Rich was not running radar
as you can see that was going in the same direction.
So he's a guestimate or estimating how fast, and they
usually call him pacing how fast you believed that al

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Rich was driving. But he escalates this and he tells
them to get out of the vehicle. As an officer
on side of the road by yourself, the first thing
you're not going to do is tell a person to
get out of the vehicle. You don't want to get
to get out the bill because they they have a weapon.
You want to see make sure the person is out,

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have any weapon or the person. If you feel like
you're going to make it a rest, you tell them
to take the keys, throw the keys.

Speaker 11 (25:12):
Out the window, leave your head on the stearing wheel.
Here meeting tells the security to get out the bill.

Speaker 16 (25:18):
So this he escalated a traffic stop, that roads are
vision roads who are unoffen use of the tager that
subsequently man to cure being shotting field by him the road.

Speaker 7 (25:32):
I mean, the thing, the thing is is here, I've
been pulled over for speeding. I've been pulled over for
driving eighty eighty five, eighty eight. In fact, I remember
literally driving from UH Palace Station, Texas to Dallas UH

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and it was a two lane highway and I pulled
the left side the cop and I literally look over
and I see it's a cop. What hell, I'm already here,
and I sped up. Cop pulls me over. He was like,
did you actually look at me? And then sped up.

(26:15):
Hell yeah, I mean I was already here. So because
I was trying to get back to Dallas for a meeting.
And the botot line is he approached my car, sir,
can I please see your driver's license and your insurance
gave it to him. You saw me, you saw the play,
tell hissed, That's what it was. So this is the

(26:36):
problem we're always talking about the actions of the cop
at these traffic stops. Is what determines ninety eight percent
of the time how the stop is going to go
because of their tone, their actions, they are supposed to
de escalate, not.

Speaker 16 (26:58):
Escalate r This was absolute agitation by this officer his
deputy here in Candy County County County is no strangers too,
corruption and unoffered action police officers and deputies.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (27:10):
This officer particularly was fired from another eighty seed within
Camdy County Kingsland Police Department, but not one, not two,
but three sensive use of force violations.

Speaker 11 (27:21):
He was fired, He was terminated.

Speaker 16 (27:24):
He was subsequently hired by the Candy County Sheriff, whose
recently had been voted out of office and Roland doing.
Before this incident with mister Cure, he had another incident
with the African American black black man outside the road
who he chased for a short period of time. The
car crashes, the motor is who was running from him.

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They sustain some injuries. Is laid over the passerside seat
upside down. Alreach comes up, hosting his gun and punches
this man in the face, completely helpless, unjustified, then subsequently
changed him and sit the K.

Speaker 8 (28:01):
Nine dog on it.

Speaker 11 (28:03):
The cheff knew this.

Speaker 16 (28:05):
He knew the bad acts of Buck all Rich, but
he still kept him on. So already has a history
of escalating an aggression towards motorists. And and this is
the reason why when this car stopped, when mister Cure
stops his truck, he got he get out of the
car and immediately aggravate and escalate this matter. And mister
Cure would Bill would be alive today if you just

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had a police officer who's as used coming sense.

Speaker 11 (28:29):
This is a speeding ticket. There's no reason to escalate.

Speaker 16 (28:32):
There's no reason to tell somebody to get out of
the car, which it changed a pull, but they chose
to do that anyway, and mister Cure ultimate lost his life.
We believe that the table was unlawful. Uh subsequently, uh,
mister Cure had a right to defit himself. I went
suggested in this situation where where the person has a weapon,
and subsequently mister Cure was was shot and killed.

Speaker 11 (28:54):
And I knew the district term, we do the district terms.

Speaker 16 (28:56):
Never gonna bring charges on this, you know, I you
know this is one of these cases where you know
they don't bring charges when they got a clear cut
case of murder let alone in the case where a
black man is trying to fend himself who was subsequently
shot and killed by law enforcement officer.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
So they won't be criminal, but y'all are y'all absolutely
are pursuing a civil case correct.

Speaker 16 (29:23):
Absolutely, the civil cases all going not just the case
as the wrong for death for the unoffered use of
force against Bulk already, but we also sue the Candy
County shaf for for practice and policies uh as relates
to other cases and in the role of y'all know,
stranging the case in Candy County, we had multiple multiple

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cases in Candy County.

Speaker 11 (29:45):
Well this, this, this, this, this, share slipping on the
rug and eventually these.

Speaker 16 (29:50):
People are found out using use of force, unof use
of force, bad cause, nuts, bad actors, and we feel
like this is something that needs to be changed. The
policy and Candy County need to be changed. So we
had probably a post and.

Speaker 11 (30:02):
Practice lawsuit against the sheriff, the former sheriff of Camden County.

Speaker 16 (30:06):
So we have a long way to go and our
uh and our civil suit, the care of family is
motivated to pursue justice on his behalf. Uh you know,
mister Kure was in prison Roland. He was in prison
for sixteen years, rolland convicted just to get out and
reshot and killed by a rogue and.

Speaker 11 (30:27):
Deputy in the Cambon County. Last thing hit limit.

Speaker 7 (30:32):
While I have you here, just share their audience. I mean,
you've had to deal with a number of these cases before,
along with Attorney Ben Crumb lead married in others, explain
to people how difficult it's now going to be on
the federal level with this Department of Justice, this FBI,

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this US Attorney in DC. I don't think people understand
that essentially y'all, y'all can't look for help through the
federal government because of the type of people we now
have in charge.

Speaker 11 (31:14):
Right, So the.

Speaker 16 (31:15):
Department of Justice civilizer vision is simply it's non existent.
So you can see that the Department of Justice has
recently deleted the police role or lists.

Speaker 11 (31:29):
Where you had officer misconduct.

Speaker 16 (31:31):
And they deleted the list the list that was put
together for a list to show the officers that committed
backcun us and actually committed crimes were convicted.

Speaker 11 (31:40):
The Department of Justice deleted it.

Speaker 16 (31:42):
They the agreements with the City of Minneapolis and other
cities dealing with police reformed a complete hall stop on
the agreements that was in play, So we don't anticipate
any help whatsoever from the Department of Justice. Matter of fact,
when the new administration came in and before they appointed

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their people in the problement Justice, I told being lead
and uh and others that we are the Department of
Justice for the next four years. It's gonna be us uh,
and we're gonna continue to fight, continue to pursue justice.
The local level disc attorneys own up. So at the
end of the day, you know, right is right as
wrong as wrong. And we are more eager now and

(32:24):
season to fight this fight on behalf of the people, all.

Speaker 11 (32:28):
Colors, all races, because.

Speaker 16 (32:30):
Use of force on vol violation, juice of force, and
unlawful use of force dealing with law enforce and misconduct
really has no color. But unfortunately it's happening more than
black and black people, uh than others. But we are
we are, we are poised and ready for this fight
and just continued to work.

Speaker 7 (32:47):
All right here, Dan, So appreciate it, man, thanks a lot,
continued great work.

Speaker 8 (32:51):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 11 (32:53):
Thanks Rolliver, good night, man, all.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
Right, thanks a lot, folks, So we'll be right back
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Doctor Larrytt Walker, of course, he is joining us out
of Orlando, Florida. Glad to have him on the show,
always have always, Glad to have good alpha brothers here.

(38:44):
He's with the University of Central Florida. Also Joe Williams. Sorry, sorry,
Joe Richardson, I'm sorry. Si Ritch attorney out of Los
Angeles and Santiago, Alia, another alpha former Senior Advisor for
Environmental Justice for the EPA out of d C. And
So Joseph, Joe, You're sitting here among three alpha brothers.

(39:05):
So that's how we roll. Let's get it. Glad to
have our brother pan on. So, Joe, this is the
thing that I continue to say when we do these
stories a fundamental issue for how these cases ends up.
It is always going to be how does the cop.

Speaker 8 (39:24):
Behave That's step number one.

Speaker 23 (39:30):
They set the tone with how they act, and if
their job is to protect and serve, they're going to
do it a certain way. Like you know, the time
they got you dead to rights because you sped and
sped right past them, looked at him and kept doing it.
But he still approached you a certain way because he
also knows that this contact can go a lot of
different ways, and it's an opportunity, by the way, to

(39:54):
make sure they reinforce the notion that they're there to
protect and serve and hold accountable as well. There's nobody
out here that drives that should expect that maybe if
they're speeding they won't get pulled over. However, they should expect,
be able to expect to be treated a certain way,
to be treated with respect, and this guy actually undermine

(40:15):
his safety from the very beginning.

Speaker 8 (40:16):
Yelling and telling the guy to come out, be honest
with you. I would have had a different problem at
that site. I wouldn't have wanted to come out of.

Speaker 23 (40:23):
The car because I would have been worried about getting
shot for coming out of the car without my hands
up in a certain way. And he did it all
wrong from the very beginning. He was so aggressive that
he wasn't even thinking straight. He put himself in jeopardy.
And what you're supposed to do is not only protect yourself,
but also protect the person that you're serving, even if

(40:45):
the person is in a bad mood or in a
certain place before you, because because as you pulled them over,
and so the tone was set with the way that
he dealt with what is now the deceased brun at
the very very beginning, he did it in a way
that it was unsafe.

Speaker 8 (41:04):
He did it in a way that is contrary to
what ought to be their policy.

Speaker 23 (41:08):
That's the I think he answered the question before I
had the opportunity to ask it. It's like, are these
guys guilty breaking their own rules or do they just
have the wrong policy. Clearly he should have done it
a very, very different way. And there's an argument that
depending on who it is, and maybe if it's a
different complexion to the person that's getting pulled over, etc.

Speaker 8 (41:29):
Maybe it would have been dealt with differently at the
very beginning.

Speaker 7 (41:33):
You know, again, what you have here Mustyle I mean
you have this these cops with the god complex who
thinks that they can do whatever they want to. I mean,
he jumped out on twelve like that was no effort
to approach the car or sir, please put your hands
outside of you. It was a speeding ticket. That's all

(41:56):
it was. It was speeding. It wasn't like he was
sitting here weaving through traffic. He wasn't hoping on the meeting.
He wasn't you know, I wouldn't do any of that
speeding ticket. I mean, this is the and this is
why keep trying to tell people, well, we need more training. No,
these are the cops who should never be on the
force because you it's like it's like the spark and

(42:20):
they just go straight from zero to one hundred.

Speaker 9 (42:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 29 (42:25):
I mean, you know, we all know that there are
officers who should not, you know, continue to be able
to be on the forest, to carry a gun, to
hold people's lives in their hand.

Speaker 14 (42:34):
You know.

Speaker 9 (42:35):
So that goes without saying. We understand other professions where.

Speaker 29 (42:39):
If you have these types of egregious behaviors, if you
hurt somebody, if you take somebody's.

Speaker 9 (42:43):
Life, you no longer license, You're no longer allowed to
practice whatever that particularly might be.

Speaker 29 (42:49):
But we also have to also understand that there is
value in de escalation, because this officer is a prime
example of that.

Speaker 9 (42:56):
You know, when you're properly doing de escalation, it gives an.

Speaker 29 (42:58):
Officer the opportunity to assess a situation because they're taking
their time and they're going through the steps that are necessary.
When you don't do that, when you're at ten or twelve,
you know, then you've missed the opportunity to actually be
able to make that assessment of what's going on and
know how to you know, how to operate. You know,
he could have waited until you know, the next officer came.

(43:20):
There are a number of different things that he could
have done. And I know that de escalation actually works
because the Louisville Department actually put a process in place
and they had a twenty eight.

Speaker 9 (43:29):
Percent decrease in these types of incidents, you.

Speaker 29 (43:32):
Know, whether it's just you know, police brutality or a
number of things that are associated with it.

Speaker 9 (43:37):
So it works when you want to make the investment.

Speaker 29 (43:41):
But if you don't and you're going to put officers
who have you know, these records of misconduct or a
number of other things out there on the street, then
you're going to get these types of results because we know,
unfortunately in our country we got about thirteen hundred and
sixty five people I believe was the number last year
of folks who are.

Speaker 9 (43:58):
Killed by police.

Speaker 22 (43:59):
So it would just make.

Speaker 29 (44:00):
Sense to have one a better group of officers who
are actually out there, and two to make sure you're
making the investments so they have the skills that are
necessary to be able to interact with citizens in a
very respectful and human way.

Speaker 7 (44:15):
It just it just every time we show these videos,
I mean, listen, nine times out of ten, Larry, how
the cop reacts dictates how it the stop is going to.

Speaker 11 (44:33):
End up, and it's unfortunate.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
I think one of the things we have to note
is when it comes to these interactions that black people
are two to three times more likely to be killed
than other groups based on interaction with law enforcements. So
I think that's a really at first data point that
is really important.

Speaker 8 (44:48):
You know.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
The other thing is, you know, as Mustafa talked about,
you know, utilizing these these de escalation you know, techniques
to ensure that these interactions between law enforcement and you
know that particularly black folks, don't go down the way
that it did. I think the other thing is Roland,
and we talked about this in the story, is that
this police officer sounds like he shouldn't add a badge,

(45:11):
so he shouldn't have been in a position to be
a law enforcement officer and pull someone over. I know
there's some states have passed laws where individuals who you know,
law enforcemento got in trouble in other parts of the
state aren't allowed to kind of move from one place
to another. But we need a national database to prevent
individuals from you know, in some cases they've moved from
state to state and then they once again or in

(45:32):
the situations where they escalate or they panic and someone
is shot and killed and disproportion to those folks up
being black. But we need to do a better job
as a nation. I know you just talked a little
bit earlier. We know for the current administration has you know,
deleted a lot of DJ data in terms of law enforcement,
you know, interactions with you know, citizens. But you know,

(45:53):
simple training is not enough, particularly when you don't see
someone's humanity. And I think that that's something that we
really had to you know, an important conversation about. And
that's why just training and ensuring someone you know, know
what policies and procedures are is not just enough. All
that won't matter if you don't see that.

Speaker 8 (46:10):
Person as a human being.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
And now we unfortunately see you know, this gentleman's lost
his life and a number of long nine of black
folks who probably should be here today with their family
members and not having a family funeral.

Speaker 7 (46:24):
And that's always the point that I'm always raising that
he's dead. The cop. He can get fired, he can
go get a job somewhere else, but this brother's dead.
You don't come back from death. And then this is
the fundamental problem that we face. There was a video
that I saw. I can't find it. It was I

(46:45):
can't find it. It was I saw it I started
several few years ago, also on YouTube, and where does
this a female cop? She was just going bonkers. You're
like to do tell them to shut up, stop talking.
She eventually got fired, She menually got fired. Was it
was a crazy video. And we've just seen this so
many different times of these cops who just don't know

(47:07):
how to behave who just don't know how to respond.
And these are the people who don't need to be
on the force. These are the people who need to
be fired. And the problem you said is two often,
too often they keep getting rehired at other places, and
so the problem just transfers the cop in the Sonia
Massy case. Same thing I mean, this cop, I mean
he should have not been been hired at that police department.

(47:31):
And that's the thing right here, Joe. It happens over
and over and over again. And this Trump Department of Justice,
they don't give a damn. They don't care about citizens.
They side with law enforcement, and so for them to
get rid of the database, we're able to track these cops.
So they don't mind these thugs. So Trump is like, sure,
what the hell be? People shoot people, tasee people kill people.

(47:55):
Whatever the hell? Hey, in my book, you're great, and you.

Speaker 23 (48:00):
Know, disproportionately, as the point has just been made, this
really affects black folks just proportionally.

Speaker 8 (48:06):
But that being said, there's a whole lot of white.

Speaker 23 (48:08):
Folks that could potentially be negatively affected by a road
cop that doesn't care because they start off at one
hundred and twenty five degrees. At the very beginning, this
particular cop had been accused of, you know, roughing up
a woman in a way that he shouldn't have. He
had several incidents where he did sex sessive force and

(48:32):
apparently lost his previous job because of it. Nobody's better
off for cops that, among other things, out of fear.

Speaker 8 (48:41):
Hatred might be part of it, but fear too, saw brother,
he comes out.

Speaker 23 (48:45):
A lot of times people puff up because they're scared,
because they're scared of having to do something right. I've
been pulled over in situations where you know, you have
to be the person to de escalate because the police
officer is escalating.

Speaker 8 (49:00):
I was speeding, okay, but I'm going to try to
be compliant. I'm to try to do what you need
to do.

Speaker 23 (49:04):
But even in that situation, nobody ordered me to get
out of the car right away and all of these
other things.

Speaker 8 (49:11):
And so he came across the wrong situation.

Speaker 23 (49:13):
But between him being hired where he was and continuing
to have the opportunities that he'd had despite the mistakes
that he's made the stakes and mistakes of the same ilk,
this ended up being a terrible, terrible combination. And then
add like you said, what's happening with the Justice Department,
where effectively we won't have a Justice Department for a
period of time, and records will go away, Consent decrease

(49:34):
will go away, records of police activity related to illegal
issues of stops, arrests, brutality, etc. A lot of that's
going to go away.

Speaker 8 (49:46):
And so now we're not.

Speaker 23 (49:47):
Going to have the numbers that we need to have
in order to continue to demonstrate that's what's going on
is going on and that and that it's a problem
that needs to be remedied.

Speaker 8 (49:56):
And so, you know, we have a problem this.

Speaker 23 (49:58):
Way, and we're going to have to tocome the Civil
Rights Department until further notice because we're not going to
get any help.

Speaker 8 (50:04):
At the top.

Speaker 23 (50:05):
You know, we'll see what happens with this case, you know,
because this is not an easy case, even though I
see the route, but you could run across an unsympathetic
jury that that really doesn't care.

Speaker 8 (50:17):
And so we're gonna have to do the best we
can here.

Speaker 23 (50:20):
And that includes us, by the way, as citizens, doing
the best we can to de escalate because these police
officers are not going to do their job.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
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Speaker 7 (53:20):
House Democrats united on the Capitol steps to warn Americans
about the massive spending blueprint that would translate into the
steepest Medicaid cuts in the program's history. Republicans want to
cut eight hundred and eighty billion dollars out of Medicaid.
Democratic Leader in the House Hakim Jeffries said, Republicans are

(53:40):
the Democrats are vowing unanimous opposition to this particular budget bill.

Speaker 11 (53:48):
Good afternoon.

Speaker 8 (53:50):
Today.

Speaker 30 (53:50):
We stand together as House Democrats with the American people
to push back against this reckless Republican budget. This is
a critical moment in the American journey. Everything we care

(54:13):
about is under assault. The economy is under assault, the
safety net is under assault. Our very way of life
as a country is under assault. Democracy itself is under assault.

(54:34):
Donald Trump, the Administration, and House Republicans are hurting the
American people. It's unacceptable, unconscionable, un American, and we are
not going to stand for it one minute. The Republican

(55:00):
budget represents the largest Medicaid cut.

Speaker 7 (55:06):
In American history.

Speaker 30 (55:14):
Children will be devastated, Families will be devastated. People with
disabilities will be devastated. Seniors will be devastated. Hospitals will
be devastated. Nursing homes will be devastated.

Speaker 8 (55:31):
So let me be clear.

Speaker 30 (55:32):
House Democrats will not provide a single vote to this
reckless Republican.

Speaker 18 (55:38):
Budget, not one, not one, not one.

Speaker 30 (55:48):
They will not get a single Democratic vote.

Speaker 22 (55:50):
Why.

Speaker 30 (55:51):
Because we're voting with the American people. We're voting with
the American people. We will push back against the Republican
budget today, we will push back against the Republican budget.

Speaker 11 (56:09):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 30 (56:11):
We will push back against the reckless Republican budget until
it's buried deep in the ground, never to.

Speaker 8 (56:19):
Rise again, never to rise again.

Speaker 30 (56:23):
We stand with the American people until victory.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Is one.

Speaker 11 (56:31):
The reckless Republican.

Speaker 30 (56:33):
Budget will hurt every day Americans who rely on Medicaid,
rely on nutritional assistance, and rely on veterans' benefits. This
is not a reality show, this is not a joke,
This is not politics as usual.

Speaker 11 (56:54):
It's a matter of life.

Speaker 30 (56:57):
And death right and so we will with the American people.
Stand with them today, stand with them tomorrow, stand with
them next week, stand with them next month, stand with
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the American people until victory is one, this budget is
defeated and America is restored. So it's our honor as

(57:24):
House Democrats to be joined today by three incredible Americans
whose quality of life depends on all of us stopping
this reckless Republican budget, which is a betrayal of the
American people.

Speaker 7 (57:42):
We need to listen to these stories.

Speaker 30 (57:43):
We're committed to making sure that these everyday Americans can
tell these stories and that their stories are heard all
across the land.

Speaker 7 (57:56):
So I was going to be significant, significant cuts that
actually would take place. And one of the things that's
happening right now is you're seeing these Republicans getting their
asses hands to them in these town halls. Now I'm
gonna talk about that in a second, but after today's
news conference, one of the reporters did ask Texas Comming

(58:16):
Fwoman Jasvan Crockett that if she ran to Elon Musk,
what would she say to him? If you could speak
directly to Elon Musk, what would you say? Fuck off?

Speaker 23 (58:28):
That's that.

Speaker 7 (58:32):
Well, that was to the point. What's interesting. What's interesting, Mustafa,
is that these Republicans, several of them, went home and
they had town hall conversations and they were getting met
up by their constituents not happy at all with the

(58:54):
news of all of these DOGE cuts. Six thousand veterans
have already been laid off, really nearly firing people. So
and one of them came back, he was like, Hey,
we might want to slow these cuts down. This is
what happens when the people speak up.

Speaker 29 (59:15):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's really interesting. You know,
I grew up in two places. Most folks know that
Appalachia and then over in Michigan. And you know, when
folks come back home to Appalachia, you know they're catching it.
And because people understand there are two things that people
really care about.

Speaker 9 (59:31):
One of them is jobs. The other part is healthcare.

Speaker 29 (59:33):
And we got sixty seven million folks in our country
who are on Medicare. Eight million of those are people
who are younger than eighteen. They have, you know, you know,
very serious conditions that are going on. Most of them
are folks who are sixty five and older. And people
want to have that healthcare because they understand that it
is a lifeline.

Speaker 9 (59:50):
And these folks are literally.

Speaker 29 (59:51):
Trying to cut the lifeline that people all across our country,
whether they're black folks, are brown folks, a working class
or lower wealth white folks. Folks know that if you
don't have health care, then there's a great way for
you to actually end up going into the poorhouse, if
I can say it that way.

Speaker 9 (01:00:08):
So folks are upset. There's probably taken kind of lightly.

Speaker 29 (01:00:12):
People are mad as hell because there's a set of expectations.
The other thing in our country is that once someone
has the benefit, it's incredibly difficult to take that benefit
away from them, or to weaken that benefit, or to
cut that benefit. But this administration seems to have the
humorists that they think that they can do anything and
there will be no repercussions for their actions.

Speaker 9 (01:00:32):
And they're incorrect.

Speaker 29 (01:00:33):
They're incorrect in states like Louisiana and Mississippi and West
Virginia and Arkansas and Alabama, which are some of the
sickest states in our country, but there are a number
of others that are right there next to them. So
you are literally shortening people's lives. You're taking some people's lives,
You're putting people in the poorhouse when you don't have
to do this, And of course you're weakening the medical infrastructure,

(01:00:56):
which is so incredibly important inside of our country. You know,
you can continue to mess around, and what you're in
defining is that they'll end up voting some of you out.

Speaker 8 (01:01:08):
Larry.

Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
This was a map that CE and N put together
that showed the number of federal workers in states that
Donald Trump won. They keep complaining about how big the
federal government is. Two million federal workers. Well, guess what,
nine hundred and seventy nine thousand, nine hundred federal workers,

(01:01:29):
that's almost one million are in red states. So guess
what if they start bringing the meat cleaver to federal jobs.
You know, they're about to impact Red states. That means
those sports are going to be without jobs. That means
undeployment benefits, that means snap benefits, that means loss of

(01:01:49):
health care, that means potential loss of homes, that means
being evicted. So oh yeah, it's going to have a
huge impact. So and when I keep saying to people
over and over and over again that these white conservative
voters are going to have to feel the pain because

(01:02:10):
they thought that Trump was going to be going after
the other people Like I love keeping hearing this phrase.
We didn't vote for this, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
Roland, it's you hit it right on the nose when
you know, we heard, you know, President Trump and Elon
Musk before the election say that it was going to
be some pain. But folks interpreted that to me black pain.
And now they're finding out that the social safety den

(01:02:45):
which benefit which you know, provides support for all Americans,
applies to folks who voted for Donald Trump. And so
in my opinion, Roland, and you talked about you know
a lot of these you know, we've seen the last
couple of weeks constituents coming to these town halls. The
bottom line is rolling. Just three months ago, they robber
stamped all this. So yes, all politics is local, and

(01:03:07):
we'll have an election you know, these in the House
in the next two years and a few Senate seats.
But really with these members of Congress saying you knew
what you signed up for. So the reason why you
don't see as many as Republicans today with this resident
budget resolution peeling off and may not see as many
individuals peeling off as it relates to the overall budget cuts,
is because many of the Republicans feel like you rubber

(01:03:30):
stamp this and once again the interpretation was that, you know,
this is going to dramatically impact black folks, but snap
dedicate some of these other programs social security while you
know the disproportionately individuals in red states, poor row areas
are dependent on these programs and Roland. When you eliminate
the social safety net, you have these issues relating to tariffs,

(01:03:52):
and you're gonna have an it's gonna impact consumer you know, spending,
and within the next two years we're likely to have
a recession. When you have a recession and you've eliminated
the social safety net, it's going to increase crime and
we're going to face some serious long term issues as
a nation.

Speaker 7 (01:04:15):
There's real clear with these people, Joe, and that is
y'all keep saying we didn't vote for it. Yes you did.

Speaker 8 (01:04:27):
Yeah, as a matter of fact, you did. You voted
for this, And you know this is very difficult.

Speaker 23 (01:04:34):
You know, we all go through things and we have
to find our ways to to be the way we
need to be. But I got to tell you there's
a there's a human part of me that that makes
compassion a little bit more difficult in moments like this
where you elect a certain person who's not thinking about you.

Speaker 8 (01:04:54):
You had no good reason to believe that he was thinking.

Speaker 23 (01:04:57):
About you, and then once it happened, it goes down
and he doesn't think about you, and now you wonder.
You got your hands up in the air and your
mouth open, and I'm like, but you knew who he was.
He told you who he was, He lets you know
who he was. You know, It's just kind of one
of those things. He says this about you, but then

(01:05:18):
you just deflected as if he's not saying this about you.
He's been for the bridge from the very very beginning,
not for poor people, not thinking about poor people, not
thinking about people of modest means, et cetera. And the
fact that he has taken chainsaw to finances, et cetera

(01:05:40):
and government funding without a scalp scalpel as opposed to
the fact that he has done that has created a serious,
serious problem which guarantees not only the attended consequences of
shutting some people out, which is amazing people were blind
that they couldn't see that was coming, but they're going
to be unintended consequences as well. Not going to be

(01:06:00):
good for the markets, This is not going to be
good for people's long term prospects at all. They're more
white people on welfare than there are black people on welfare.
There are more poor white people than our poor black people.
So there's no way that he is going to take
a hacksaw to funds and social safety net and it
doesn't affect them. It's absolutely going to affect them, and

(01:06:22):
it's starting and happening already. Ask farmers that were depending
on certain money and certain support that.

Speaker 8 (01:06:28):
Haven't gotten it.

Speaker 23 (01:06:29):
They're already at incredible crossroads in their lives where multi
generational farms are in the midst of potentially being lost
or jeopardized. And so you knew this was coming, and
there's something in law. A lot of times we say
you knew or should have known, and if you knew

(01:06:49):
or should have known. If you should have known but
you didn't know, you're going to be just as bad
off as if you actually knew.

Speaker 8 (01:06:56):
And the same thing is going to be true here.

Speaker 23 (01:06:58):
If you should have known what the president was going
to do and you ignored it and acted like he
wouldn't do it, you.

Speaker 8 (01:07:03):
Didn't know, ignorance was bliss.

Speaker 23 (01:07:06):
Well, now you're not going to be able to be
ignorant and be blissful because you're going to have things
that you've come to count on and rely on, or
that your mother's relying on, or somebody that you know
is relying on.

Speaker 8 (01:07:18):
You're going to have those things go away. And here
you are.

Speaker 7 (01:07:24):
Absolutely mustapho.

Speaker 29 (01:07:28):
I mean, you know, like you always say, we tried
to tell them, folks are hardheading, and folks always think
it's never going to happen to me. It's never going
to happen in my community, it's never going to happen
to my family until it does.

Speaker 9 (01:07:39):
I think for me, the question now is what are
you going to do about it?

Speaker 29 (01:07:42):
Are you actually going to push back against you know,
your elected officials who say, well, you know, there's nothing
that we can do. Are you going to hold folks accountable?
And are you going to evolve in your thinking to
make sure that the choices that you make with your
vote are one that's actually going to be helpful to
your family and to the next.

Speaker 9 (01:08:03):
Set of generations to come.

Speaker 29 (01:08:04):
So that's the moment that we find ourselves and we
can't change the past, right the vote has been certified,
but you can make sure that you are getting extremely
focused on holding people accountable on this moment and getting
prepared for the midterms.

Speaker 9 (01:08:18):
So we'll see what folks do.

Speaker 7 (01:08:20):
All right, folks. Moving forward, the White House will decide
which news outlets have access to the twice impeach criminally
convicted fellow in Chief Donald Trump. This decision reduces the
authority of an independent association of journalists, the White House
Correspondence Association, which traditionally has determined which publications are included

(01:08:41):
in the press pool. They also pay for that. Doing
a White House briefing today, the clueless Press Secretary Carolyn
Levitt announced these changes following a judge's preliminary ruling the
Associated Press does not have to be included in the
White House Pool. Listen to this.

Speaker 31 (01:09:02):
As you all know, for decades, a group of DC
based journalists, the White House Correspondence Association, has long dictated
which journalists get to ask questions of the President of
the United States in these most intimate spaces.

Speaker 22 (01:09:16):
Not anymore.

Speaker 31 (01:09:18):
I am proud to announce that we are going to
give the power back to the people who read your papers,
who watch your television shows, and who listen to your
radio stations. Moving forward, the White House Press Pool will
be determined by the White House Press Team. Legacy outlets
who have participated in the press pool for decades will
still be allowed to join fear not, but we will

(01:09:40):
also be offering the privilege to well deserving outlets who
have never been allowed to share in this awesome responsibility.
Just like we added a new media seat in this
briefing room, legacy media outlets who have been here for
years will still participate in the pool, but new voices
are going to be welcomed in as well. As part

(01:10:01):
of these changes, we will continue the rotation amongst the
five major television networks to ensure the President's remarks are
heard far and wide around this world. We will add
additional streaming services which reach different audiences than traditional cable
in broadcast. This is the ever changing landscape of the
media in the United States today. We will continue to

(01:10:22):
rotate a print pooler who has the great responsibility of
quickly transcribing the President's remarks in disseminating them to the
rest of the world, and we will add outlets to
the print pool rotation who have long been denied the
privilege to partake in this experience, but are committed to
covering this White House beach. We will continue to rotate
a radio pooler and add other radio hosts who have

(01:10:44):
been denied access, especially local radio hosts who serve as
the heartbeat of our country. And we will add additional
outlets and reporters who are well suited to cover the
news of the day and ask substantive questions of the
President of the United States depending on the new news
he is making on that given day.

Speaker 7 (01:11:03):
Let me explain you how dumb these people are. First
of all, there is a cost to be in the pool.
Typically that cost, I mean it could literally cost three
to five hundred thousand dollars a year. When you fly
on air Force one and I flow on air Force
one once I've been on air Force two twice. You

(01:11:26):
have to pay for the ticket. They're on air Force one,
they charge you the price of a first class ticket.
Air Force two they charge you the price of a
coach ticket, So you have to pay for that. So
there's a cost there. And so that's so everybody is
not a part of a pool. Okay, so these idiots

(01:11:49):
don't even realize. Okay, if y'all want to include all
these other different people who're gonna pay for it. That's
one of the reasons why the major news outlets have
actually been a part of that. Well, guess what, Caroly,
she got jammed up by someone even for Fox News
regarding this decision. I want to watch this exchange, and

(01:12:10):
that they wanted this.

Speaker 31 (01:12:11):
Five things email was just to see if people are
actually alive, citing that there are some federal workers who.

Speaker 8 (01:12:16):
Might not even be alive.

Speaker 7 (01:12:18):
All right, So that was the Doe email. But I'm
gona pulled up in a second this exchange, which I
thought was quite interesting because what these people don't understand
is again I'm just laughing at what the Trump people doing.
What the Trump folks want to do is they want
to put their right wingers into the press pool. Donald
Trump wants their own people Pentagon they kicked out seeing

(01:12:42):
in NPR and others to allow in Bright Bart and
these right wing media folks in there. And so this
is what I've made clear, and I've sent this to
some of the White House correspondents. I'm like, your strongly
worded statements mean nothing. They mean nothing. Eugene Dan, you know,
a brother with Politico. Its president of the White House

(01:13:03):
Correspondents Association, and he posted his statement on Twitter. If
y'all have that pulled up please. He posted his comments
on Twitter with regards to how the White House correspond
Association feels about this change, and so what they said

(01:13:25):
was give me a second, I'm going to pull it
up for you. They said, this move tears at the
independence of a free press in the United States. It
suggests the government will choose the journalists who cover the president.
In a free country, leaders must not be able to
choose their own press corps for generations. The working journalists
elected to lead the White House Correspondents Association Board have

(01:13:47):
consistently expanded the WAHCS membership and its pool rotations to
facilitate the inclusion of new and emerging outlets. Since its
founding in nineteen fourteen, the WACA has sought to en
sure at the reporters, photographers, producers, and technicians who actually
do the work for undred and sixty five days of
every year decide amongst themselves how these rotations are operated,

(01:14:11):
so as to ensure consistent professional standards and fairness in
access on behalf of all readers, viewers, and listeners. To
be clear, the White House did not give the WHCA
board a heads up or have any discussions about today's announcements.
But the WACA will never stop advocating for comprehensive access,
full transparency, and the right of the American public to read, listen,

(01:14:34):
and watch reports from the White House. Deliver it without
fear or favor. Eugene Daniels, White House Correspondents Association President,
So God's wouldn't be real clear, don Trump don't give
a damn about they strongly worded statements. Here's what Eugenie
Daniels and Kelly O'Donnell and Peter Alexander and the other
reporters of these outlets Associated Press, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS,

(01:15:04):
manby Fox dos all of them tomorrow when Carolyn Levitt
walks in, they should all stand up and walk out
and literally go stand outside of the White House and say,
we're not covering your briefing. When Donald Trump, if he's whatever,
when they're out there and he's coming out to marine
one way to turn the cameras on, We're not gonna

(01:15:28):
go cover it. Do you understand something here? Donald Trump
craves media attention. It is his oxygen and not right wing.
He craves the New York Times. He craves to be
on CNN and NBC. Oh, he'll criticize them, trash them,
dog them left and right, but he desperately wants to

(01:15:50):
be there. The only way that these media people are
going to get his attention is if they boycott and
walk the hell out. You have to play hardball with
a bully. You got to punch a bully back. But
you know what, I don't think they're gonna do it.
I think they're gonna punk out. I think they're gonna

(01:16:11):
accept this. And he's gonna say, go further, and go further,
and go further. He said, I want to be a
dictator on day one. That's exactly what he's doing. And
part of the problem is that mainstream white media has
been too compliant, saying wearing this shirt right here, got

(01:16:34):
the little third right here. America needs a black journalist,
America needs black on media because see too many of them.
They accept the bullshit, they accept being smacked around, they
accept being mistreated. Ain't gonna happen with be and others.

(01:16:59):
This is an effort by Donald Trump to say to
the media, I'm gonna control you, I'm gonna own you.
You know what, y'all ain't gonna do nothing because your
bosses are whims. Your bosses are scared. The problem is
where we're operating today is that corporate media. It's more

(01:17:23):
focused on mergers. It's more focused on them making more money.
They're not focused on a free press. They're not focused
on holding him accountable. They're scared. They want their mergers
Sherry Redstone, Viacom paramount. They desperately want the Trump administration

(01:17:48):
to approve the acquisition of their company by Larry Ellison's
son and sun Dance. David Zaslov want a Discovery desperately
wants to be able to acquire some other companies in
order for them to increase their scale, because those two

(01:18:10):
companies are actually the two smallest major media companies. You
see NBC Comcasts, they're splitting off their assets and so
MSNBC and other cable networks are going into a separately
publicly traded company called spin Co, and Comcasts are still
gonna retain NBC. I can go on and on and

(01:18:31):
on how all of these companies are looking to do deals.
So therefore they don't want to get on the bad
side of Donald Trump, and he knows it, and so
he's going to run rough shot over all of them,
and you know what they're gonna do. They're gonna bend

(01:18:51):
over and take it. And then they're gonna say, thank you, Donald,
please screw us over again. That's what's going to happen
because they don't support, they don't really support a free press.

(01:19:15):
They support making more money. And if that means blowing
off the journalists, if that means whatever, because you know
what after that statement today, Bob Iger at Disney which

(01:19:35):
owns ABC, Brian Roberts, who runs Comcast, the top leaders,
they should have issued statements. No, not their news presidents, No,
not their division leaders. They should have issued statements and say,

(01:20:00):
we will not tolerate the gross disrespect of a free press.
But when you care about money and when you care
about your other deals, that is what you worship. You
do not worship the First Amendment. Jeff Bezos, who owns

(01:20:25):
the Washington Post, trust me, he ain't. Catherine and Graham,
his president of the paper, Will Lewis he damn sure, ain't.
Ben Bradley. Y'all need to understand. But we have today
are weak, impotent media leaders who have no desire to

(01:20:51):
challenge Donald Trump or Elon Musk because they have been
newted and this is why black on media is so important.
This is why we've got to have free voices. People

(01:21:11):
who are like William Monroe Trotter, who in the White
House challenged Woodrow Wilson. He was kicked out of the
White House by Woodrow Wilson, but he was willing to
challenge him. I want you to read Ethan Mchayley's book,

(01:21:32):
I'm the Chicago Defender. The federal government literally threatened to
charge black newspapers with treason because they were writing about
the racism that black troops were enduring. The federal government
said that this was not good for morale, so instead

(01:21:57):
of getting rid of the racism, they want to get
rid of the black newspapers. Those are facts that it's
not what we have today.

Speaker 5 (01:22:10):
Larry Rowland, you highlighted it in terms of it's really
important for the White House Correspondent Association. You have to
show some spine when it comes to this issue. Listen,
I've been reading about authoritarianism and one of the things
that's really a key tenant is a free press. And

(01:22:33):
you see them running in circles and running away from
the issue. Are United Front is the only way to
address this issue. And if they continue to capitulate and
turn it back and you know, run around like you
know with skunks, you know, and just pretend like it's
not all burning down, this will get progressively worse. And

(01:22:54):
as you said, he will take inch by inch yard,
you know, you know, yard by yard, mile by miled.
This is just the beginning of a four year term.
So it is critical that they stand united and make
a decision on showing that they will not allow the
White House to dictate whether it's the ap or other traditionally,
you know, you know, units have the opportunity to cover

(01:23:17):
the president of the White House on behalf of the
American people. But if they don't do anything, and you know,
strongly worded statements are not going to do anything, and listen,
they better start taking the approach of civil rights leaders
from decades gone, because that's the only way that you're
going to turn the tide on this. And one other
thing I want to add is that history is watching

(01:23:39):
and those individuals once again who are not willing to
stand staf asked and fight for every inch, not only
in terms of the press, but overall our freedoms and
what it's supposed to be a democracy years from now
when people will ask them and discuss where were you
when the walls fell?

Speaker 7 (01:23:59):
Absolutely, this is one of the two books that I
have on William Monroe Trotter in the books called Black
Radical The Life and Times of William Monroe Trotter by
Carrie Greenich. And the thing here, Joe, is simple. This
man was willing to look the President of the United States,
one of the most violent races in American history to

(01:24:20):
occupy that office, Woodrow Wilson, and he pissed Wilson off
so much Wilson threw him out of the White House.
These folks, they crave access, Joe, they crave access. They
are unwilling to be modern day William Monroe.

Speaker 23 (01:24:38):
Trotter's Yeah, And you know, folks are going to have
to for all my friends watching, you'd have to pardon
us for a little pessimistic on this point, because if
you really want to be honest, you really want to know.

Speaker 8 (01:24:53):
The truth about it.

Speaker 23 (01:24:56):
They made Trump twice. The media, the mainstream media has
made Trump president twice.

Speaker 8 (01:25:01):
They didn't do it once, they did it twice.

Speaker 23 (01:25:04):
They've normalized the things that he has done that have
been unconstitutional. They've normalized and the second time he won,
even though quote one, even though there's an argument that
there are three and a half million votes suppressed, and
all of these other things. You know, they call it
one of the greatest comebacks in political history. They have

(01:25:24):
from the very beginning, because Trump was sensational and he
was interesting and dynamic and charismatic. They have effectively normalized
him and made him a serious candidate when he wasn't,
and made him president twice. And so now you're going
to have to pardon me if I'm a little concerned

(01:25:45):
or a little skeptical of the notion that they would
actually stand now and do what they need to do
in order, because even after he made them president, he's
still dumping them. I mean, they could say that out loud,
I said, man, we made you president, why are you
doing it? They could have that conversation. But even after that,
he's kicking them off to the side because he wants

(01:26:06):
all his far right friends to be the media.

Speaker 8 (01:26:09):
So it is a serious problem when you have folks that.

Speaker 23 (01:26:14):
Allow the president of the United States pick who he
wants to be covered by and therefore influence what the
news actually is and therefore make it as flattering and
unrealistic and maybe even untruthful, as untruthful as he.

Speaker 8 (01:26:30):
Wants it to be.

Speaker 23 (01:26:32):
We are in a very very serious place and juncture,
and we've you know, but we've been here for a
while because to my mind, he's been elected twice by
the media. He's been normalized by the media. He continues
to be normalized. The things that he does continue to
be minimized by the media. And you would like to
think that at some point, you know, maybe at the

(01:26:54):
moment that they find themselves out of the pool, out
of the press pool, that they would you know, gain
a spine and say we need to take this thing
another way.

Speaker 8 (01:27:05):
But I'm not gonna hold my breath.

Speaker 7 (01:27:08):
Bottom line is they scured. They scared Mustafa. It's all
about money. It's capitalism. These people who own these big
media companies, they don't care about the journalism. They care
about the money. They're cared about the streaming. That we
are long past the days of Bill Palley and run Arlich,

(01:27:31):
Leonard Goldenson, David Sarnoff. We're past the days these individuals.
Now they want to be richer and even richer. These
folks Jeff Bezos had so much money he could never
the man got divorced and his wife got billions, and
he still made more money. But it don't matter because

(01:27:52):
they want more money. It's more money, it's more money.
It's more money. They don't give a damn if they
are literally turning these media institutions into roadkill.

Speaker 9 (01:28:07):
Yeah, it's not about the truth.

Speaker 29 (01:28:09):
It's not about making sure that you place the spotlight
on the issues that need to be brought forward to
the American public. It is about stacking dollars. That's all
it really is about. And so we just got to
make sure that we're understanding the game. But we also
have to understand what can come out of this situation.
You know, when you look at Russia, you have a
state run media system. When you look at North Korea,

(01:28:31):
state run media, when you look at China, state run media,
when you look at Nazi Germany. One of the things
that Hitler did when he came in is he understood
that he had to control the narrative.

Speaker 9 (01:28:42):
So eventually they made sure that they eliminated and then
made sure that they created what the narrative was going
to be, and that's through the media.

Speaker 29 (01:28:50):
So we have to be extremely careful in this moment
that you know, we don't find ourselves in a very
similar situation to the folks that you know that Trump
is closing up too. So we it's right there in
front of us. The question becomes, will funks get a spine?
Will we make sure that we are also supporting the
entities that are going to make sure that the truth

(01:29:12):
is being told and that there's a spotlight on the
issues that so many of us care about. So we
have some power in this situation, but we've also got
to make sure that we utilize that power.

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(01:33:18):
fake Department of Government efficiency. On Tuesday, more than twenty
civil service employees resigned from Elon Musk fake department, stating
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y'all won't know how dumb Donald Trump is. So he

(01:34:28):
signed the executive order today, and literally while he was
signing the executive order, he decides to throw out this
idea that we're going to start selling a gold card
for rich people to bypass the immigration process and buy
their way into America. Okay, y'all might think, come lying, No,

(01:34:50):
this dumb ass actually said this.

Speaker 33 (01:34:52):
Listen, Russian oligar the eligible for the gold garment pssibly. Hey,
I know some Russian oligarchsent are very nice people.

Speaker 7 (01:35:04):
It's possible they're not quite as wealthy as.

Speaker 18 (01:35:10):
Not as wealthy as they.

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
Used to be.

Speaker 7 (01:35:12):
I think they can afford.

Speaker 33 (01:35:13):
I think they can afford five million dollars. I know
a lot of people are going to want to a
lot of people are going to want to be in
this country, and they'll be able to work and provide
jobs and build companies and pay taxes, all of those things.
It's an incredible Uh, it's an incredible thing. I mean,
this is the group that is the first to hear it.

(01:35:34):
Nobody has heard about it, nobody ever thought about it.
But we've been thinking about it very very strongly over
the last week. And I was going to announce it
sometime next week, and I figured, why not.

Speaker 7 (01:35:46):
We have a lot of cameras blazing right now, this
might as well. We might as well do it now.

Speaker 8 (01:35:50):
We'll have Carolina.

Speaker 7 (01:35:51):
Now, y'all, seriously, a gold cart, So what the hell
can just you know, bow their way in and so hey,
we're going to sell it for five million dollars and
so okay, listen to his idiot. Actually, I tell y'all,

(01:36:13):
he's just stupid. Listen thing else, it's going to be
very very good. We're going to be selling a gold card.
You have a green card.

Speaker 8 (01:36:25):
This is a gold card.

Speaker 33 (01:36:26):
We're going to be putting a price on that card
of about five million dollars, and that's going to give you.

Speaker 18 (01:36:31):
Green card privileges.

Speaker 7 (01:36:32):
Plus it's going to be a route to.

Speaker 33 (01:36:35):
Citizenship and wealthy people will be coming into our country
by buying this card. They'll be wealthy and they'll be successful,
and they'll be spending a lot of money and paying
a lot of taxes and employing a lot of people.
And we think it's going to be extremely successful and
never been done before or anything like this, but it's
something that we're going to be putting out over the

(01:36:55):
next would you say, two weeks out, do you want
to see a couple of words.

Speaker 7 (01:36:57):
About so what the hell was just gonna do a
gold cart? I really hope Joe, those broke ass people
in Red States are watching this and realize he never
gave a damn by y'all. Y'all were just too stupid
to hand him your votes. He's saying, I'm here for

(01:37:19):
the rich people. I'm here for the people who make
a whole lot of money. The rest of y'all can
go to hell. And I keep saying that these broke
ass maga or white folks, they so broke they he won't.
He wouldn't even let them walk their asses through one
of his hotels. They couldn't even walk into the lobby.
They would see they broke ass coming and said no, no, no, no, y'all. Y'all,

(01:37:42):
y'all can't walk through the front door. But they believe
this idiot cares about them.

Speaker 23 (01:37:49):
It's interesting because a lot of what he does and
what he quotes sells is out of bringing the folks
demographic And last time I check, there's a whole lot
of regular white folks.

Speaker 8 (01:38:01):
It's like their whole lot of regular.

Speaker 23 (01:38:03):
Black folks, right, And these folks are priced out of
this I mean, out of the abundance of the heart.

Speaker 8 (01:38:09):
The mouth speaks.

Speaker 23 (01:38:10):
He's talking about putting rich people in front of the line.

Speaker 8 (01:38:15):
Okay, And so you know, we've got.

Speaker 23 (01:38:17):
All these problems, and we're over crowded, we've got all
these problems, and we've got to get rid of all
these people that are that that shouldn't be in our country.
But we can bring these folks to the front of
the line and they'll pay a lot of taxes and
they'll hire a lot of people. Know it sounds like
trickle down. That's kind of what it sounds like, but
that's how he vibes. This is very much him, This

(01:38:39):
is very much who he is, and I stopped. I
want to thank you Roland, because I get the opportunity
to say what I want to on this type of forum.
I can go back and forth, and I can argue,
and I can hypothesize. I didn't stop trying to explain
it to people on Facebook. I didn't stop trying to
explain it to people on Instagram.

Speaker 8 (01:39:00):
Look, just keep living and you'll see how it goes.

Speaker 23 (01:39:03):
When your mother can't get her Medicare, can't get her medicaid,
when you got to pay more than thirty five dollars
fifty dollars a month for your for your insulin, then
you'll know, or maybe you won't, and you'll just be
where it is that you are. But you're going to struggle.
So I can show you better than I can tell you.

(01:39:23):
And he keeps doing things that show us, show us,
and show us all the more. And so we'll see
how loud they they cry wolf as if this is
something that they didn't expect or that wasn't going to happen,
or that wasn't inevitable.

Speaker 8 (01:39:40):
But once again, here we are and it's just going
to continue.

Speaker 23 (01:39:45):
Regular people are getting ready to have a much tougher
time than they've had for a long long time.

Speaker 7 (01:39:54):
And listen this thug, This thug is of the what
a grifter. In the same news conference, Mustafa uh he
was literally showing, hey, hey, here are the new products
I have to see. Watch this dumbass. Look.

Speaker 33 (01:40:16):
Trump was right about everything.

Speaker 21 (01:40:18):
Just came in.

Speaker 33 (01:40:19):
Somebody said that, I said, this was sent in by
a fan. I said, I think we should make some
of them, right, But we were pretty much you want one?

Speaker 7 (01:40:28):
Are you allowed to take one?

Speaker 33 (01:40:29):
Because he'll consider and I know him well, stiff Brian,
you're not a stiffer.

Speaker 9 (01:40:35):
A stiff guy.

Speaker 7 (01:40:37):
He'll take other things, but not a free has. Always
say yes to the president.

Speaker 11 (01:40:41):
Always say yes.

Speaker 8 (01:40:42):
To anybody like one, mister President, an easy question.

Speaker 7 (01:40:46):
Didn't even know who that ass kisser was over his
left shoulder. Always say yes to the president. Always say
yes to the president. I mean, these are nothing but grifters, Mustafa.
They are grifters. They are there to cheapen the Oval Office,
the White House, to make a buck. That's all this is.

(01:41:09):
This is a grifting operation.

Speaker 29 (01:41:12):
It's the fleecing of America exactly what it is. You know,
they continue to sell off pieces of America.

Speaker 9 (01:41:19):
So when he talks.

Speaker 29 (01:41:19):
About, you know, whatever the number is going to be
five million dollars for you to be able to get
to the front of the line.

Speaker 9 (01:41:23):
That's the pay to play. That's the world that he
comes out of.

Speaker 29 (01:41:26):
If you ever followed his career, you can see how
he's always paying folks off to be able to do
the things that he felt that he should be able
to do.

Speaker 9 (01:41:34):
And in many instances, you know, folks just went along.

Speaker 29 (01:41:37):
Now, there were a few cases, of course that he
got caught up in, but that's what's going on when he,
you know, sells these gold tennis shoes for an exorbitant
amount of money, or sells a bible. Doesn't even know
how to hold the Bible, he has it upside down,
but yet he wants to sell it for whatever the
number was.

Speaker 9 (01:41:54):
You know, it continues to be, you know, just selling
off pieces of America. And people saw of these things before.

Speaker 29 (01:42:00):
They didn't know about the five million dollars to be
able to get in the front of the line, but
they did see the other things and they said, okay,
we'll continue to ride with you. Now we find ourselves
in this moment where there's much more serious and egregious
things that he's doing that are going to impact folks.
I can tell you the mass majority of people that
I know are not going to make five million dollars
in their lifetime. There's a whole bunch of folks probably

(01:42:22):
won't make a million dollars because they're out there just grinding.

Speaker 9 (01:42:26):
And trying to put food on table and keep the
lights on. But you know that is not of concern
to him. I'll close with this.

Speaker 29 (01:42:32):
If he was serious about immigration, then he would be
working for Congress to actually make the changes that were
necessary to have a fair and equitable immigration bill.

Speaker 9 (01:42:42):
But he's you know, he's not interested in that. But
he will say that if you have enough money, then
you can get to the front of the line.

Speaker 29 (01:42:48):
You can come to this country, and then you can
do what you want because you'll have your citizenship now
actually creating jobs. If you really take a look at
a whole bunch of the folks that he's been, you know,
chasing around and deporting those types of things, those are
individuals who actually.

Speaker 9 (01:43:02):
Helped to create jobs inside of this country.

Speaker 29 (01:43:05):
So we need to make sure that we have a
fair and legal immigration system that is built on equity.

Speaker 7 (01:43:12):
Larry.

Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
So basically, you know a lot of these folks out
here felt with the Banana intael pipe. So what do
we have here? So for you know, those individuals like
let's use for example, Roland, who are you know who
have TPS. We know that buy administration extended it for
a number of groups, and Trump administration then rescinded that

(01:43:35):
Villians willans Haitians obviously, the challenges Cubans, et cetera, and
individuals from other countries that are facing extreme economic various
other challenges. TPS status has been revoked and some of
those people their status ends as early as next month.
So you have those folks on the other hand, and

(01:43:55):
any other you know, group of individuals. If you got
five mil howl at us, right, and first of all,
I don't know how they came up with five million
dollars and not ten fifteen million dollars, you might as
well it might as well be some much even large
amount of money. Have no idea where that number came from.
But the other thing is this is a clear indication
that people voted just a couple of months ago Roland,

(01:44:17):
and not necessarily this'se people I'm talking about who were
with TPS status because they're here once again because of
you know, challenges in that country. But their family members voted,
voted for this nonsense, and now they're going to end
up have to leave the country or get deported going
back to countries once again that are struggling for various reasons.
On the other hand, and he mentioned someone said a

(01:44:37):
Russian oligard, So pretty much a rich criminal could gives you,
you know, gets over and people can give you several
millions of dollars and have a golden parachute here in
the United States.

Speaker 9 (01:44:48):
So but it's never it's never.

Speaker 5 (01:44:50):
Clear for some communities about who and what he values.
But here we are, and like I said, just a
few months out of the election, and a lot of people,
as you said before, a out and we'll find out
even more the next four years.

Speaker 7 (01:45:06):
Oh well, that is it. And I just sit here
and I just laugh at these little broke folks. Want
somebody want to say something, go ahead, I.

Speaker 29 (01:45:14):
Mean, I'll say something real quick, because Republicans have been
talking about for decades now about folks getting into the
line and following the immigration system right and having to
go through all those steps that often takes years and
years and years for you to get your citizenship. And
now you know, Donald Trump has said, well that's no
longer the case. You know, if you got platinum card money.

(01:45:37):
I don't know why I called the gold card. Anybody
get a damn gold card, then you know, now you
can move to the front of the line. So it
goes completely against everything that they said that they believe in.
Now the question becomes, are they going to make sure
that they are crying out about that because that has
been one of the major items that they have used
to get people to vote.

Speaker 9 (01:45:57):
So we'll see how it plays out.

Speaker 7 (01:46:00):
Absolutely all right, folks. The fall out continues with regards
to Joy Read's show being canceled on m S, n
b C. Last night was her final episode, and so
on last night's show, she she talked about, you know
what she'll be doing next, how people can actually reach her.

(01:46:24):
Do y'all have if y'all have, do y'all have her
comments from last night? Okay? So again, so on last
night's show, she of course got praised by a variety
of people from colleagues, there she spoke about in terms
of really what she is going to be doing, and

(01:46:46):
even how she even opened her show talking about again
what the focus is. So just take a listen how
she opened last night's show.

Speaker 4 (01:46:56):
But I think we begin tonight with what I think
is the question, when you are in the midst of
a crisis, and specifically a crisis of democracy, how do
you resist when fascism isn't just coming, it's already here.

Speaker 7 (01:47:12):
So what, if anything, can you do about it?

Speaker 4 (01:47:16):
Well, for one thing, you can try to learn from history,
from what people in this situation, in countries around the
world and in America have done before. As my friend
Rachel Mattow always says, history is here to help. America
hasn't always been a free country for everyone, and we've
had resistance movements from day one, from enslaved people fighting
their captivity shout out to Harriet Tubbett, who was a

(01:47:37):
ninety two percenter before ninety two percent ing was cool,
and even taking up arms during the Civil War, to
the women's movement and the worker's rights movement and the
Stone Wall gay rights movement. They've all been versions of
the fight to make this a free country for everyone.
And to have a true multiracial democracy. And that is

(01:47:58):
history's most important lesson.

Speaker 7 (01:48:00):
That the most important thing.

Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
The first rule is to fight back, to never stop resisting.

Speaker 7 (01:48:06):
Do not obey in advance.

Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
As Tim Snyder put it, do not take the knee
to throw in a game of thrones reference even if
it's scary or uncomfortable or inconvenient. Just keep saying no
or finding creative ways to say no in small.

Speaker 7 (01:48:19):
Ways and large.

Speaker 4 (01:48:21):
Meger ever said, do not shop where they will not
employ you. Doctor King Champion, the Montgomery Bus boycotts to
become the leader of the civil rights movement, the labor
rights movement, shut down factories and hobbled industries to win
the forty hour work week that you enjoy right now,
and more recently, to ensure the right of workers to
work from home. During COVID, people have marched against the

(01:48:43):
Vietnam War and the war in a rock and against
the decimation of gaza using our tax dollars. You don't
always win every battle, but the whole thing is about.

Speaker 7 (01:48:56):
Resisting absolute bomb. Every folks have been responding, well, it
took them a while. The National Association of Black Journalists,
they've released their statement in their statement, says here so
we can we can pull it up. I'm gonna try

(01:49:16):
to pull it up over here as well, so I
can zoom in on it, because guys, that's people can't
see that. So this is quite interesting, they say. The
Nationalization of Black Journalists met with NBC Universal's head of
diversity yesterday to discuss concerns about recent changes that have

(01:49:37):
affected the black voices seen and heard on air every
day while NBC Universal leadership. While NBC Universal leadership has
assured us that they let me just pull it up
right over here, guys, so I can zoom in on it. Okay,
go to my iPad, they say. While NBC Universal leadership

(01:50:02):
has assured us they are committed to elevating black voices,
we are disappointed by the removal of Joy Read from
her slot. Readers a long time journalists and hosts of
The Readout, a major political commentary program. While we congratulate
Samone Sanders, Townshend, Michael Steele, and Alicia Menendez on their
new roles in Read's former timeslot, we remain concerned about
industry wide patterns in which black talent is disproportionately affected

(01:50:24):
at corporate changes. We also have learned that other journalists
and commentators representing diverse communities have been removed from their slots.
As we continue examining this issue in working with NBC
Universal on their commitments to diversity, we urge news leaders
across the board to recognize that removing black voices affects
how networks shed light on issues of great importance to

(01:50:47):
our communities. Reducing those voices also limits the diversity of
content and viewpoints. Networks must also ensure that more black
journalists by trade have opportunities to contribute. We urge all
news platforms to add, rather than subtract, from the diversity
of their talent, both on camera and behind the scenes.

(01:51:08):
That that's the statement, So let me preface this. I
joined NABJ in nineteen eighty nine. I was elected I
was a founder of the Texas A and M University

(01:51:30):
NABJ chapter. I was elected the national student Representative in
nineteen eighty nine, serving through nineteen ninety one. I served
in leadership capacities in Austin, Dallas for War Association and
Black Communicators. I belonged to chapters in Houston in Chicago.

(01:51:53):
I later was elected to the board as Secretary the
third time I was on the board, I was asked
to step in to be the vice president for Digital
and being was elected to a term. I've been honored
with the NABJ President's Award. I've been honored with the

(01:52:16):
NABJ Journalists of the Year in twenty thirteen, twenty twenty one,
I was elected the youngest living person to the NABJ
Hall of Fame. Have donated money, contributed, have spoken at
various sessions. But this statement is a piece of shit.

(01:52:42):
This statement is weak, This statement is impotent. First and foremost,
the statement isn't even signed. There's no quote in this
statement from the president Ken Lemon. There's no quote in

(01:53:03):
this statement from executive director Drew Berry. What is this
not only that go to my iPad Anthony. It says
that we met with NBC Universals of Diversity. You did what.

(01:53:28):
You don't meet with the head of diversity. You meet
with the goddamn president.

Speaker 27 (01:53:34):
You meet.

Speaker 7 (01:53:36):
With Mark Lazarus, the CEO of spin Co, the company
that will be overseeing MSNBC. Mark Lazarus, Rebecca Cutler is
the president of NOCNBC. You don't meet with the head

(01:53:57):
of diversity who had no role in this who has
no P and L responsibility really misplay something, y'all. When
I was on the board and we were kicking Jeff
Zucker's ass for no black direct reports, seeing Inn said,

(01:54:22):
but we will meet with the board. We're not gonna
meet with Roland Martin. And I said, if y'all meet
with them without me, I'm kicking all y'all's asses. They
didn't meet with's ceeing. Then when we were going after ABC,
ABC offered for their vice president Barbara Fadida, who was

(01:54:46):
later fired because of some racist comments. Fired her, so
they offered to meet with her as somebody else. Our
president at the time, Sarah Glover, was going to meet
with I said, no, you not. I said, presidents don't

(01:55:07):
meet with folk lower than the president. I said, you
as the president of the National Association of Black Journalists,
you do not meet with underleans. You meet with folk
on your level. And so I can tell y'all. When

(01:55:29):
we went after when there were issues with ESPN and
I was on the board, we met with Jimmy Petarro,
who was the president of ESPN. When we met with Disney,
we met with Peter Rice, who was one of the

(01:55:51):
top executives at Disney when we challenge Jeff Zucker and CNN.
We had a meeting with Randall Stephenson's subordinate, and the
meeting was supposed to lead to a meeting with Stevenson.
Because our leadership walked into the meeting and had a

(01:56:12):
weak ass ask making us look like fucking fools. That
never happened. This is the statement you release regarding the
cancelation of Joy. Read show this. This is a statement

(01:56:34):
you released this week.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
Ass statement.

Speaker 7 (01:56:40):
The word dropped on Saturday that Joy was being ousted,
and this is what you worked on Saturday, Sunday, Monday
and released on Tuesday. Do y'all understand that this year

(01:57:06):
will mark the fiftieth anniversary of the National Association of
Black Journalists. It will mark when forty four people met
in Washington, d C.

Speaker 8 (01:57:24):
In order.

Speaker 7 (01:57:27):
To create this organization, and I had the pleasure of
knowing and meeting.

Speaker 8 (01:57:43):
You.

Speaker 7 (01:57:43):
Go to my iPad. These are the founders. No, Norman Adams,
Wade New, Paul Brock New, Regindal Bryant, Nor Mareene Bunden Bunyan,
No Charlie cop know Joe Davidson, I know Allison Davis,

(01:58:04):
I know Paul Delaney, I met, I know it met
William Dill Dave, I know Sandra Dillard and Joe Dreyfus
and Sam Ford. I knew Vernon Jarrett very well, New
Claude Lewis, Sandra Dawson, Long Weaver, Gloria Marshall, As Moore,

(01:58:30):
Less Payne, Chuck Stone, my alpha brother, Francis Ward, Vince Sanders,
John White talked to Dwayne Wickham on yesterday. Former president

(01:58:50):
merv Austin knew him well. Another alpha brother and this
type of statement with what was happening a black journalist,
this is what we release. This is a fundamental problem
with black organizations having weak leadership, unwilling to stand up,

(01:59:19):
unwilling to put your damn name on the press release.
When I sat on that board, there's no I wrote
many of the statements that we released. How scared are

(01:59:41):
you to put your name on it. If you're unwilling
to put your name on it, damn it, don't run
for office. Yes, I'm talking to you, President Ken Lemon.

(02:00:05):
What I've witnessed over the last several years of NABJ
leadership has been despicable. Two years ago Birmingham, we give
the NABJ Journalists of the Year Award to Jim Trotter
because he stood up to the NFL network at Roger
Goodell and we didn't even have the audacity that year

(02:00:26):
to give them our thumbs down award. We waited till
two thousand and four and we just dropped it out
there to the public. If you go to YouTube and
pull it up, you're gonna see itz only have twelve
views and held it with eleven until I pulled up
last night. Here's the problem that we have because this

(02:00:50):
goes beyond NABJ. Where is black leadership? Where or other
black organizations? Why is it right now organizations so quiet?

Speaker 8 (02:01:12):
Why is it.

Speaker 7 (02:01:14):
That folks don't want to say anything. Well, we have
to understand that these companies they know and they can
smell weakness. They know when we have spineless leadership.

Speaker 23 (02:01:38):
They know.

Speaker 7 (02:01:40):
When folks are unwilling to say what needs to be said.
They know, oh, we can ignore them. They won't say nothing,
they won't do nothing. And here's the greater issue. What
signal does this sin to the membership? And if it

(02:02:03):
comes knocking on their door, they know INNABJ ain't gonna
have a back. Folks, when we talk about black leadership.

(02:02:28):
What we need to understand that what it means for
black leadership, it means being leaders. Let me be real clear,
let me be real clear. Hell, where's inn Abj's statement

(02:02:55):
today on what Trump just did with the White House
Press Corps? Silence? Silence? What I need people to realize

(02:03:17):
that there is a difference between you holding the title
and being a leader. President might precede your name or
that does not mean that you are a leader. And

(02:03:40):
I fundamentally believe at the problem that we have today
with too many of our black organizations is that we
have folk with titles who are merely present but have
no presence. We got folk with titles who when they

(02:04:05):
walk into the room, the room never shifts. See I'm sorry,
excuse me. And I know with an N A B J.
That I grew up watching real leaders that when something happened,

(02:04:30):
they had something to say. I remember when we were
in Houston and it was a panel in Bushwick. Bill
referenced the word bitch to one of the women there
and said mail Est Sumpter, who later became president, heard

(02:04:52):
about it and stormed into the room and checked him
at that moment and says, you will not refer to
any woman in this organization ever as a bitch. That's leadership.

(02:05:12):
Leadership is when we had our convention in two thousand
and eighteen in Detroit and they actually had a torque
contest on stage, and even Luther Campbell called them out.
And that was some sisters who were offended. And I

(02:05:36):
went when I wasn't in the room, and when I
heard about it, I went up to the brothers in
the Miami chapter and said, let me holler at you.
Y'all are going to apologize to the sisters for what
y'all did. Oh. I know a couple of them were
bad as helling me. But I didn't give a damn
because I wasn't going to be a board member and

(02:05:59):
be silent when that happens. This statement from NABJ regarding
joe Ane Reed is simply unacceptable. It is weak, it
is impotent, and it is not representative of the NABJ

(02:06:20):
that I was raised in, that I was trained in.
It does not represent the legacy of a chuck Stone
of a less Pain. It doesn't represent the legacy of

(02:06:45):
a Vernon Jarrett and all the brothers and sisters who
are now ancestors who have created who created the opportunity
for us of an organization that with integrity, morals, values,

(02:07:09):
principle and ethics for black journalists. N A b J.
You have got to do better because this ain't it
to my panel, Larry, you can start, you.

Speaker 5 (02:07:28):
Know, Roland, you know, as you highlight the organization long
to say, you mentioned Chuck Stone when i'mrom Philadelphia, so
I remember reading his writings, you know, as a kid
growing up, and you know, the organization is a long
history of not only in terms of you know, you
know writing, but black activism and this is really, this
is what we need right now. These are dire times,

(02:07:50):
you know, writing like you said that, you know Land statements,
you know that kind of say you know this is bad,
but you know, kind of winking or no and not
taking them one aggressive approach, it's not going to get
it done today. We really need servant activists in today's society,
particularly in the media. As I said earlier, the media

(02:08:11):
is under attack and it's one of the pillars of
a strong democracy and it is failing us. And to
see black folks, you know, in particular in leadership positions
in an organization, plays an important role in terms of
make sure we have a diverse workforces relating to the media.
You know, put out a statement, as you said, it's

(02:08:31):
really almost like they use AI to put it out,
does really have a lot of teeth to it, and
it's not acceptable. And we have to be able to
continue to hold the you know, individual's feet to the
fire to make sure that that they are capable of
living in this moment and in some cases being defiant
and willing to put it on the line to make

(02:08:53):
sure that black folks in this society has a voice
that people here we have to say and that we
can thrive into day's society.

Speaker 23 (02:09:04):
Joe, it will always take enormous sacrifice in order to
get us from point A to point B. And the
more urgent the times are, the more urgent the sacrifice
is needed, and perhaps the deeper the sacrifice is needed.
You would think that journalists would know how to write, okay,

(02:09:27):
And I'm not a member of an ABJ, but I
think that I understand the urgency that you underscore in
terms of a journalist's group being able to speak to
what's going on in the moment as it pertains to
all of the attacks on the free press, all of
the attacks of individuals, including black folks, that are really

(02:09:52):
speaking truth with their journalism and uncovering things that need
to be uncovered.

Speaker 8 (02:09:58):
So I guess the question becomes, who are they really
trying to please?

Speaker 23 (02:10:03):
What exactly are they scared of, Because the fact of
the matter is that they're scared of something in terms
of maybe the rights being taken away, the things being undermined, Well,
that's already happening. It kind of reminds me of you know,
when I'm representing somebody who's got a terrible employer and
employers out to get them and cut their head off,
and they're scared to see them, and I said, well,

(02:10:23):
I guess I understand somewhat, but they're moving on you regardless.

Speaker 8 (02:10:26):
That's why you're here.

Speaker 23 (02:10:28):
So the question becomes, there's certain obligations and responsibilities to
who much is given, much is required. So there are
certain obligations and responsibilities that come with sitting in your box.

Speaker 8 (02:10:38):
You could have gone and been a being counter and
maybe you wouldn't.

Speaker 23 (02:10:41):
Have had to speak truth to power in a public way,
but you chose something that actually obligates you to do that, particularly.

Speaker 8 (02:10:50):
In light of what it is that we've had happen
what it is that.

Speaker 23 (02:10:53):
We've seen happen historically, as it pertains to journalists, as
it pertains to fighting for First Amendment rights, and that.

Speaker 8 (02:11:01):
Just creates an urgency. We can't get rid of the
fact that the urgency is there.

Speaker 23 (02:11:04):
And so therefore my hope is that we always meet
the moment, and in moments like this when we are
admonished that we aren't meeting the moment, hopefully we respond
not by me coiling and covering ourselves up and going
and rolling up in a ball in a corner, but
by actually meeting the moment because our freedoms absolutely depend

(02:11:30):
on it. So hopefully in ABJ and similar organizations from
bottom to top, we get to work and do the
things that we need to do in that regard.

Speaker 7 (02:11:38):
You know, when stuff, I'm sure there's gonna be some
people say, Man, you ain't have to go so hard.
Couldn't you just have called some folks and talked offline. No,
sometimes you can't have that private conversation. Sometimes you got
to go ahead and make it public. And I just
I mean again, I'm just real. I'm just real clear here,

(02:11:59):
I'm just real. This is not a moment for feckless
leadership and mustap for I'm very clear, if you don't
want to do what the job requires, then damn it. Resign.
Don't run for the office. But if you decide, we'll
stop here. The people don't realize twenty eleven, I think

(02:12:25):
was twenty eleven NABJ was critical.

Speaker 2 (02:12:38):
Of.

Speaker 7 (02:12:38):
We were critical of what happened was seeing in They
had hired air Burnett, that gave her a show at
seven o'clock. They had pushed John King's failing show back
to six o'clock. I mean, it was horrible. It wasn't
nobody watching that show. And then the other networks actually
had hired host and they weren't. I mean, all these

(02:13:02):
shows got had hosts and nobody was black. And so
we were debating the issue, and I was on the board.
I was at CNN the time. Out of all the
people on the board, I was the only one on
the board who had the possibility of actually being a

(02:13:23):
show host at one of these networks. And we were
discussing should we give CNN and MSNBC the Thumbs Down
award in twenty eleven. So we were having this conversation,
and that was a sister who was on the board

(02:13:50):
who worked at CNN, who felt that I should refrain
from voting and criticizing SNN because I worked there. And
I said, baby, let me explain something to you. I said,

(02:14:14):
I was elected as an executive officer to lead. I said, now,
if I'm a going to have stain, i't can leave
the board. And in my speech and in my speech
to the board, I literally said, I am a potential

(02:14:40):
beneficiary of hosting one of these shows, but I would
be shirking my responsibility to the membership that elected me
if I put my personal ambition before the membership and

(02:15:00):
I voted to grant them the thumbs down award. Well, here,
what was crazy? We did that? And one our former
president runs off and tell the folk at NBC because
they've been so good to us, we had donations, and

(02:15:24):
they objected. Then we voted a second time to give
them the thumbs down the ward. Then the outgoing president,
being weak, didn't put the statement out. Then the weak
incoming president waited nine months to put the statement out.

(02:15:51):
And I'm sitting here trying to tell this sister work
they're seeing in who's on the board. I said, maybe
you probably ain't never even made one hundred thousand dollars
that I say, you don't understand how much executive producers
make on these shows. You don't understand what it would
mean to have black show hosts and the ability to create. Well,

(02:16:12):
I want at this whole thing, but the dick, But
the key is I could have been selfish and said,
I mean, I ain't gonna ain't gonna sit here and
vote because you know what they I might get one
of them jobs. So I ain't gonna sit here. I

(02:16:32):
ain't gonna say nothing against my master because they've given
me a check. H. And maybe the difference between me
and her Mustafa is seeing In what't my only check?

Speaker 2 (02:16:46):
M H.

Speaker 7 (02:16:47):
I had a TV one check, I had a Tom
Join the Morning Show check. I had speeches and books check.
And seeing In I had five lines of revenue money
going to my media company. Seeing In was number three.

(02:17:08):
Maybe that's probably why I wasn't afraid to make that vote.
That to me, it ain't about being arrogant, a cocky,
or somebody saying an old man way to go.

Speaker 17 (02:17:22):
No.

Speaker 7 (02:17:23):
When you are elected to leadership, you are to put
your personal ambitions on the shelf and you are to
lead for the people who chose.

Speaker 9 (02:17:33):
You without a doubt.

Speaker 14 (02:17:37):
You know.

Speaker 9 (02:17:38):
Just let me add one other thing to what you said.

Speaker 29 (02:17:40):
It is also about moral afforded to, and there are
far too many people who do not have that or
they are afraid to tap into it because there is
an accountability that comes with that. For some people, there's responsibility,
and there is also sometimes something that you may lose
if you hold on to your moral afforded too. I
know my mama is watching because she watches your show

(02:18:01):
all the time. One of the things she always says
is telling like a TI is. And when she says that,
I always laugh, but I understand what she means because
she's like, no matter what, whatever the cost is, it
is always better to just make sure that you are
telling it like it actually is and making sure that
you are also letting folks know that you're not just
going for the okie dope.

Speaker 9 (02:18:23):
So I appreciate for that.

Speaker 11 (02:18:24):
You know.

Speaker 29 (02:18:25):
What I would ask our brothers and sisters over at
at ABJ, you know, is also why.

Speaker 9 (02:18:29):
Don't you just say it with your chest?

Speaker 29 (02:18:31):
Because Ida b Wells would do that because we understand
that she actually was under great pressures, right, she didn't
know every time that she walked out of her office
or out of her home and somebody was going to
kill her or lynch her or whatever the situation.

Speaker 7 (02:18:44):
That woman had a bounty on her head. Yeah, maybe fire,
But I got a mirror in my office called black
on media matters. The reason you don't see a cover
of any of her newspapers because they all burned up.
They all burned up. Now, y'all should already have a

(02:19:05):
shot in there. They all burned up. No, don't take
that shot. They all burned up. We have her name
on the mural, but they all burned up. That's why
this woman had a bounty on her head.

Speaker 9 (02:19:18):
Right, So that's how serious it.

Speaker 29 (02:19:20):
That's how serious it was for her, and you know,
and as the brothers on the panel today have said,
that's how serious it is also becoming in our country.

Speaker 9 (02:19:27):
And the question becomes, will you stand up? Will you
do the right thing?

Speaker 29 (02:19:31):
Will you build partnerships and relationships that allow you to
not necessarily have to be the only one out there
because we are moving together in solidarity. You know, I
remember the words of doctor King when he said, the
ultimate measure of a man or a woman is not
where they stand in moments of comfort or convenience, but
where they stand at times of challenge and controversy. And
that last part is where people get tripped up because

(02:19:54):
they're okay when everything is easy.

Speaker 8 (02:19:56):
You know, it's easy to talk.

Speaker 29 (02:19:57):
About environmental justice when the by administration is throwing, not throwing,
but they are making sure they're sending money to the
communities that needed, or housing justice, or transportation justice, or
all these other types of things that we fight for
and should be fighting for. But when things get tight,
that's when you find out who's really got the spine
for it, right, That's when you find out who's really

(02:20:17):
real about what is necessarily be done. And I'll close
with this Roland, because you also talked about folks not
having confidence in our black organizations. When you talk to
brothers and sisters who are on the street about, you know,
an organization that's been around for a.

Speaker 9 (02:20:32):
While, they want to know, so, what have you done recently?

Speaker 29 (02:20:34):
You know, I appreciate what you may have done in
the forties, fifties or the sixties, but what are you doing.

Speaker 9 (02:20:39):
Now to make sure that you are lifting what's happening
inside of our communities, what's going on in the hood.

Speaker 29 (02:20:45):
And if you don't have a response to that, then
folks that's going to be looking at you like you're
just some antiquated organization that is out of touch with
what's going on. So folks got to say it with
their chest, but they also got to back it up
after they say it with their chest.

Speaker 9 (02:20:58):
And that's what Ida B.

Speaker 29 (02:20:59):
Wells did, and that's what a number of other luminaries did,
and that's why we lift their names.

Speaker 9 (02:21:04):
Up because they weren't afraid.

Speaker 29 (02:21:06):
They weren't scared, right, they made sure that when the
time comes that they stood right there in the fire
and did.

Speaker 9 (02:21:13):
What was necessary.

Speaker 7 (02:21:17):
This is come on, y'all, move the camera, y'all. I
need to shout O out of me Wells in it.
So the reason I got up to come over here
and show y'all this year thank you, is this here.
That was a black gernalist with courage. I purposely am
wearing a shirt am. American needs black journalists. But America
don't need weak black germals. America don't need ef feckless

(02:21:40):
black germals. America needs black journalists who are going to
be soldiers without swords. Go watch the PBS documentary on
the black press. It was called it was called soldiers
without swords. And that's what we have to have these days.
And so you said, say it, what's your chest? And again,

(02:22:00):
we need folk who are going to be willing to
stand up, folk who are going to be willing to
represent the interests of the people. And when I say
and look, I don't mean no disrespect to anybody who's
got a Vice President for diversity title, But let me

(02:22:23):
be real clear, they ain't got no power. Somebody with
a VP for diversity title, they got no power. And
so NABJ don't ever do that again. If something happens
to a black journalist on a local level, you meet

(02:22:47):
with the editor and the publisher. You don't meet with
the assistant city editor. If something happens in a television newsroom,
you meet with the news director and the general manner.
You don't meet with the assignment editor. Well, something happens
with a magazine, you meet with the executive editor or

(02:23:10):
the head of content and the media CEO or the publisher.
You don't meet with the fashion editor. And if you're
talking to a network, you don't meet with the VP
of diversity. They should have met with Rebecca Cutler, the

(02:23:32):
president of MSNBC, and Mark Lazarus, the CEO of spin Co.
Now is not the time for week folk in positions
of power because week folk in positions of power make

(02:23:55):
the position weak and time is up for all of that.
I'll be right back.

Speaker 14 (02:24:12):
This week on the other side of change.

Speaker 24 (02:24:14):
Abolition focused should we aim from reform or abolishing the
entire systems?

Speaker 32 (02:24:19):
Simone feelings lets us know how much possibility lies and abolition.

Speaker 25 (02:24:22):
That is such a radical image because it offers the
suggestion a suggestion that.

Speaker 22 (02:24:29):
We already know to be true, which is that we
have what it.

Speaker 14 (02:24:32):
Takes to take care of each other and to take
care of ourselves.

Speaker 13 (02:24:36):
Watch us on the Blackstar Network. So tune in to

Speaker 4 (02:24:46):
We begin tonight with the people who are really running
the country right now. Trump is often wrong and misleading
about a lot of things, but especially about history or Trump.

Speaker 13 (02:24:53):
Falling in line with President Elon Musk.

Speaker 7 (02:24:56):
In the way of the unsettly news that MSNBC has
can Joy and Read primetime show the readout Roland Martin
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Blackstar Network stands with Joy and Read and all folks
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Speaker 12 (02:25:57):
Hatred on the Streets a horrific scene nationalists rally that
descended into deadly violence.

Speaker 7 (02:26:06):
White people are losing their their minds.

Speaker 9 (02:26:09):
As an angry pro Trump mod storms the US capital.

Speaker 7 (02:26:13):
Since show, We're about to see the lives where I
call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks in
this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting.

Speaker 5 (02:26:23):
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of
violent denial.

Speaker 22 (02:26:28):
This is part of American history.

Speaker 30 (02:26:30):
Every time that people of color have made progress, whether
real or symbolic, there has been but Carold Anderson at
every university calls white rage as a backlash.

Speaker 7 (02:26:40):
This is the right of the proud boys and the
Boogaaloo boys America. There's going to be more of this.

Speaker 29 (02:26:47):
This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and
its attitudes because of the fear of white people.

Speaker 7 (02:26:55):
The fee that they're taking our jobs, they're taking out
our resources, they're taking out women. This is white people.

Speaker 24 (02:27:18):
This week on the other side of change, abolition focused.

Speaker 13 (02:27:21):
Should we aim from reform or abolishing the entire systems?

Speaker 32 (02:27:25):
Simone feeling lets us know how much possibility lies and abolition.

Speaker 25 (02:27:28):
That is such a radical image because it offers the suggestion,
a suggestion that we already know to be true, which
is that we have what it takes to take care
of each other and to take care of ourselves.

Speaker 13 (02:27:42):

Speaker 8 (02:27:52):
What's up?

Speaker 34 (02:27:52):
Gek Tony in a Place to Be got kick Touch
of Mama's University creator and that could producer of Fat
Tuesday's and air hip hop comedy right now, unrolling with
Roland Martin, unfiltered, uncut, unplugged, and undamned.

Speaker 7 (02:28:06):
Believable him all right, No pound's gonna eat this up.
Ed Martin, who is the MAGA US Attorney for Washington, DC,
is declining to authorize an arrest of Republican Congressman Corey

(02:28:28):
Mills of Florida. Check this out. Last week, Meals was
accused of physically assaulting a twenty seven year old woman
with whom he was having an affair. Meals is married.
Officers responded to an incident at the two term congressman's
residents where they found a woman with quote fresh bruises
on her arm unquote. The victim allowed the responding officers

(02:28:49):
to listen to a phone call in which Meals instructed
her to quote lie about the origin of her bruises unquote.
Mills was not arrested at the time, but when he
was informed that the heat that the rest would be forthcoming,
the victim returned and recanted several details about the altercation
and the rest. Warnt for Meals was created on Friday

(02:29:09):
and sent to the US Attorney for ratification. Now in
the region, that's important, y'all, because in DC, the US
attorney has jurisdiction. However, the US Attorney Martin, who represented
Proud Boys and January sixth, white domestic terrorists, his office
refused to sign the warrant, returning the cage to the

(02:29:29):
Metropolitan Police Department for further investigation. So basically, Joe, what
Trump's people are saying is, Hey, we're maga, and we
won't indict or rest a maga Republican for physically assaulting
a woman.

Speaker 8 (02:29:50):
Yeah. Yeah, we're going to take care of our arm.

Speaker 23 (02:29:52):
We're going to cover our own and so therefore, I mean,
this is just another one of these situations where if
you are actually concerned to about justice and what's supposed
to be truth justice in the American way, people ought
to be yelling out loud about this. This is a
This is domestic violence where someone was scared, someone was

(02:30:14):
beat up, and ultimately they end up helping to try
to cover him, cover for him, as scared women are
scared domestic violence victims can often do. And so here
it comes to to the prosecutor, to you as attorney,
who's actually supposed to you know, that doesn't mean the
person is going to be convicted.

Speaker 8 (02:30:33):
There's there's still a process to be undertaken, but clearly
there should have been an arrest.

Speaker 23 (02:30:38):
And so you put people in these positions of authority,
and now they get to pick and choose who they
want to prosecute, and so they want to prosecute one
of their own because at the end of the day, hey,
it just got a two vote Ma Jordany, Congress. So
can you really fault to them for being self centered
and self motivated to ignore justice when it's when it's

(02:31:01):
appropriate and convenient for them. So this is going to
be a theme. I think it's going to continue to happen.
You've got the Fox guard in the Henhouse. Big turn, Larry.

Speaker 7 (02:31:10):
Keep in mind that Martin also said this the other day.
Go to my iPad Anthony. As President Trump's lawyers, we
are proud to fight to protect his leadership as our president,
and we are vigilant in standing against entities like this
ap refused to put America first. Edward R. Martin, Junior
United States Attorney District in Columbia, Larry, the US Attorney

(02:31:32):
is not Trump's lawyers. They represent the people of the
United States. This is the problem with this thug being
in the Oval office. His minions believe that they are
there only to serve him and not the American people.

Speaker 5 (02:31:51):
That statement that you know you just read and or seeing,
you know, a few days ago history at the authoritarian
pleabook in Chile, Russia and verious other countries. We've seen
this over, you know, Massoleny, We've seen this over of
the decades. It's the same playbook rolling and so yeah,
I mean they're not you know, we saw what happened
on the January sixth insurrections. So none of this is

(02:32:12):
gonna be surprising. Uh And and you know, people should
really compare themselves for more of this over the next
couple of years. You know, President Trump has complete immunity
and he's put in place from deal which in various
other places, individuals who are completely beholden to him and
have completely will completely continue to ignore the US Constitution.
So this will only get worse. We will continue to

(02:32:33):
hear stories about this. The story I'm most interested in,
and this one certainly is interesting, but the trillion, the
billions of trillion dollars that will eventually be stolen from
the US Treasury that you know, we'll certainly find out
years from now and probably those individuals won't be prosecuted either.
So this is from the This is the very beginning
of a long road of individuals who permitted crimes and

(02:32:55):
they're being ignored much.

Speaker 29 (02:32:57):
Powful well, you know, spposed to be what the Party
of Family Values, right, that has been their mantra for
decades now. And we see what the Party of Family
Values actually stands for, because when they see someone who's
done some type of an action like this, then you
hear silence. You don't hear them saying anything about it.

(02:33:18):
I don't hear them saying asking him to not even
at a minimum, to apologize, but much more significant actions
should be going on in relationship to putting your hands
on a woman.

Speaker 9 (02:33:28):
And the other part is that we know that we
have two.

Speaker 29 (02:33:31):
Justice systems that actually exists inside of America, you know,
right now, a justice system that would hold all of
us accountable and many many other people across our country
if we did something like this. And the other justice
system is for those who have privilege and power or
at least assume power in this moment. So we just
have to be aware of sort of the playbook that

(02:33:55):
that is currently you know, playing out in front of
us and make sure that we're prepared for the things
that are going to come. As the other brothers have
shared over the next.

Speaker 9 (02:34:03):
Couple of years.

Speaker 7 (02:34:06):
Absolutely all right, folks, we have lost some amazing figures
in the area of music. Gwyn McCray, the soulful voice
behind classics like Rock and Chair and funky Sensation, passed
with the age of eighty one. Known as the Queen
of rare grow Gwen's music wasn't just played, it was felt.
Her songs, filled with passion and funk, became the soundtracks

(02:34:29):
the cookouts, family gatherings in late night grooves. She gave
us music from ninety percent of Me to keep the
fire burning that stood the test of time. Born in Pensacola, Florida,
Gwenn started singing in church and went on to bless
us with fourteen albums over her decade long career. Even
if you don't know her name, trust me, you know
her sound because artists like Lady gat God Mob Deep
in Cypress Hill have all sampled her music, proving her

(02:34:53):
influence stretches far beyond her era. In twenty twelve, Gwen
suffered a stroke that took her away from the stage
but her voice that never faded. Gwyn McCrae leaves behind
the legacy of soul groove and timeless classics that will
continue to move us for generations to come. Folks will
say goodbye to another soul legend. Chris Jasper, the Grammy

(02:35:14):
Award winning singer, songwriter and iconic Aisley Brothers member. He
passed away at the age of seventy three. His family
confirmed the News Share that Jasper was diagnosed with cancer
just December. He was born in Cincinnati, where he grew
up as a classically trained musician, but soul music was
his destiny. He lived in the same apartment complex as

(02:35:35):
the Issley family and lived. By high school, he had
already formed a band with Marvin and Ernie Issley. That
connection led him to tour with the legendary Osley Brothers
while studying at Juilliard and Long Island University. Before long,
he was writing hits for the group, including the nineteen
seventy two classic Love Put Me on a Corner. But
his voice in musicianship gave us timeless records Life for

(02:35:56):
the Love of You and Caravan of Love, songs about
love unity in making the world a better place. Folks Man,
this is a big one here. Grammy winning singer and
pianist ROBERTA. Flat. She passed away a Monday at the
age of eighty eight. According to a statement from her
publishers Elaine Shocked. She died at her home surrounded by

(02:36:17):
her family. In twenty twenty two, Flak revealed she had
been diagnosed with ALS, also known as lou Garrick's disease,
and she could no longer sing. Flak was discovered in
the late nineteen sixties by jazz musician Les mccainn. Flack
made history of nineteen seventy three with her hit Killing
Me Softly with his song become of the first artists

(02:36:38):
to win consecutive Grammys for Best Record. A classically trained pianist,
she was so gifted. At the age of fifteen, she
received a full scholarship the Howard University, and of course
many people remember of the amazing songs she did as
duets with Donnie Hathaway, who also was from Howard University. Folks, ROBERTA.
Flat passed away at the age each of eighty eight,

(02:37:01):
and we closed out this memorial, folks, with the loss
of the iceman Jerry Butler, He was the co founder
of The Oppressions. Renowned baritone singer and songwriter. He passed
away at the age of eighty five. His hits for
Your Precious Love and Owned the Strong Survive. Butler, who
earned two Grammy nominations during his career, passed away at

(02:37:23):
his home in Chicago. Born in Missouri, he was just
three years old when his parents, who were sharecroppers, moved
the family to Chicago. Was part of the Great Migration
in the late nineteen fifties. He formed The Impressions with
his childhood church friend Curtis Mayfield, of course, passed away
in nineteen ninety nine. But Jerry Butler, Folks, was not
just a singer. He also was an activist and a politician,

(02:37:45):
serving for a number of years as a Cook County Commissioner.
That's right, serving on the Cook County Commissioners. Born there
in Chicago, and so even though he was serving on
the board of Cook County, he also was still performing.
Jerry Butler, we remember him for all that he did,
and so Jerry Butler also was a fellow member of

(02:38:07):
Alpha ba Alpha Fraternity Incorporated. And so we salute these
four musical greats. Folks on Saturday, I was, of course,
in Los Angeles for the NAACP Image Awards, where the
Chairman's Award was given out to Vice President of Kamala Harris.
The President's Award was given to Dame Chappelle. In her speech,
Vice President Kamala Harris encouraged folks not to give up

(02:38:30):
and to stay the course and in the fight.

Speaker 35 (02:38:33):
I want to thank you Chairman Russell for your kind
words and your long standing leadership. To Devin, I'm so
proud of you, and it is so good to see you.
I know the future of our country is bright when
I look at you, so I will say, as a
very proud lifetime member of the NACP, I thank everyone

(02:38:57):
here for your tireless advocacy and for your years of support.
To receive this award has very special meaning for me,
As everyone here may know, I grew up inspired by
the work of the NAACP, inspired by all those who
took up the fight for justice, for equality, and for opportunity.

(02:39:21):
Their example is part of the reason I chose a
life of public service, seeking to always live by the
words of a distinguished NAACP founder WB du Bois when
he said it is today that our best work can

(02:39:41):
be done and not some future day or future year.
And this sense of urgency is what we must have today, knowing,
as the saying goes, eternal vigilance is the price of liberty,

(02:40:04):
the price of liberty to stay alert, to seek the truth,
and to actively participate in the fight for America's future.
This organization came into being at a moment when our

(02:40:27):
country struggled with greed, bitterness, and hatred, and those who
forged the NAACP, those who carried its legacy forward, had
no illusions about the forces they were up against, no

(02:40:47):
illusions about how stony the road would be. But some
look at this moment and rightly feel the weight of history.
Some see the flames on our horizons, the rising waters

(02:41:09):
in our cities, the shadows gathering over our democracy, and
ask what do we do now? But we know exactly
what to do, because we have done it before and
we will do it again. We use our power, We organize, mobilize,

(02:41:37):
we educate, and we advocate, because you see, our power
has never come from having an easy path. Our strength
flows from our faith, faith in God, faith in each other,

(02:41:58):
and our refusal to surrender to cynicism. And destruction, not
because it is easy, but because it is necessary. Not
because victory is guaranteed, but because the fight is worth it.

(02:42:22):
And while we have no illusions about what we are
up against in this chapter in our American story, this
chapter will be written not simply by whoever occupies the
Oval Office, nor.

Speaker 7 (02:42:42):
By the wealthiest among us.

Speaker 35 (02:42:46):
The American story will be written by you, written by us,
by we the people. Thank you, God blessed you, and
God blessed the United States of America.

Speaker 7 (02:43:13):
Get the Pamela's comments on that. I gotta play this here.
So Carrie Washington, she got the NAAC Image Award for
the Tyler Perry movie on Netflix, featuring the Sisters, of course,
who were delivering the male during World War Two. Now
what's so hilarious? First of all, so we're gonna play

(02:43:34):
y'all her acceptance speech. But the funny thing is what
happened after Rolland.

Speaker 36 (02:43:38):
As you know on award shows, when people look surprised,
I never believe that they're really surprised until Beyonce at
the Grammy because I was like, but I'm just shocked.
I'm shocked because the women that I'm nominated with are
so extraordinary, so extraordinary. I love you you all so much,

(02:44:01):
and I'm honored to be in a category with you.
I want to thank the fans.

Speaker 7 (02:44:05):
I want to thank my yest.

Speaker 36 (02:44:07):
I want to thank my family, my husband, my children,
my parents. I want to thank Netflix. I want to
thank Tyler Perry and Nicole A.

Speaker 30 (02:44:13):
Bond.

Speaker 36 (02:44:14):
I want to think our beautiful award winning Best Cast Ensemble.
And I want to most importantly thank the women of
the six Triple Eighth, the eight hundred and fifty five women.

Speaker 18 (02:44:27):
Of the picturepal eight, who proved to us.

Speaker 36 (02:44:30):
How extraordinary Black women are, how extraordinary we have always been.
In a time when our history is being ripped from us,
when people are trying to get us to not tell
our stories, we are telling your stories, ladies, because you
are calling us forward into our greatness. And that's what
tonight is about, is about all of us being called
into our greatness. So remember your greatness, because that is

(02:44:52):
what the height is for.

Speaker 13 (02:44:53):
Thank you, naacp.

Speaker 7 (02:44:55):
Oh my god, I'm shaking. Okay, thank you.

Speaker 8 (02:44:58):
All right.

Speaker 7 (02:44:59):
So here's what happened. Okay, so we carre walked off,
she would oh, and she came back to the microphone. Uh,
and she wanted to say something else, but they had
introduced Clifton Davis and Carl and Moseley, but to come
up to present the next award, so this happened.

Speaker 36 (02:45:28):
These guys are great, they have an amazing show that's
gonna be premiering soon.

Speaker 7 (02:45:32):
But I did not think Tyler Perry.

Speaker 18 (02:45:38):
I did, You didn't Tyler Perry?

Speaker 7 (02:45:58):
All right, so we'll stop Hilary and Joe. Okay, here's
what y'all don't realize is I'm gonna have y'all play it.
Played the second one again, so the audience said, you did.
Now the voice of God, who was presenting, who was
announcing the presenters was emc light you mc lightgo, you

(02:46:19):
did play it.

Speaker 36 (02:46:31):
These guys are great, they have an amazing show that's
gonna be premiering soon.

Speaker 18 (02:46:36):
But I did not think Tyler Perry. I did you didn't.

Speaker 7 (02:46:57):
Oh my god, that was hilarious. Uh, Coyler Perry. I
actually I text him. He got a huge kick out
of that. So that was pretty funny there. But just
want to get your thoughts what the vice president had
to say. I'll start with you.

Speaker 29 (02:47:14):
I mean, you know, she always makes sure that she
has the right words for the right moment, enough gratitude,
but also painting the picture moving forward. It reminded me
of Michelle Obama when she once said, the history has
shown us the courage can be contagious and can take
a life of its own. And you know, when the
Vice President was running, she brought a new energy into

(02:47:37):
the space and she helped people who often felt that
they were unseen and unheard to.

Speaker 9 (02:47:41):
Know that they had a voice and that they had
a champion for them.

Speaker 29 (02:47:45):
So I really appreciate the NAACP honoring her the work
that she's done, the work that I'm sure she will
still do, but also making sure that we understand that,
you know, we take the baton and continue to move forward.
So I thought it was a very positive moment and
we got a lot.

Speaker 9 (02:48:02):
Of work to do, but we'll get it done.

Speaker 8 (02:48:03):
Larry, Yeah, real quickly.

Speaker 5 (02:48:06):
You know, as she high the fight goes on, and
I think it's important she knows that she's been a
lifetime remember the NAACP. So folks out there get after,
get involved, and let's continue to support her as she
continues figures out what.

Speaker 8 (02:48:18):
She wants to do next in her career.

Speaker 23 (02:48:21):
Joe, she reminds us of our nurth star what we
need to be looking toward uh, and that she was
a fine presidential candidate, a wonderful presidential candidate, and a
worthy presidential candidate.

Speaker 8 (02:48:35):
And so hopefully we take those words and continue to
do the work.

Speaker 23 (02:48:39):
This is a long term thing, and you've got to
believe the right right is gonna win out and as
it pertains to carry Washington.

Speaker 8 (02:48:46):
Listen, brother, brother Tyler Perry is the one.

Speaker 23 (02:48:50):
So I ain't mad at her, And she went back
interrupted the show and made sure she thanked the brother.

Speaker 8 (02:48:55):
I ain't mad at her off.

Speaker 7 (02:48:58):
Always wise. Are y'all real quick? We got some breaking news, y'all.
Y'all been knowing about that crazy ass mayor in Dalton, Illinois,
Tiffany Henriott. Have y'all all been seeing the videos I
had on the show where she was over there lying
about stuff where y'all they had the primary today and
y'all she gone. She got dog walked in the primary.

(02:49:21):
She loses to trustee Jason House, a good mindpad Come on,
come on. She loses by landslide in the South suburb
of Chicago. And when I say she got beat down,
she got beat down. According to I saw one. I
think she post closed at seven, and it looks like

(02:49:43):
she only got to Look at this here, she got
twelve percent of the vote, five hundred and thirty six votes.
He got eighty seven percent of the votes. Damn. I mean,
I've under seen some races, but Larry, that's an ass

(02:50:04):
whooping when all you got was twelve percent of the
vote and you the incumbent. It's clear the folk in
those to Illinois was sick of her ass.

Speaker 5 (02:50:18):
You know, I remember when you had her on the
show Roland, you know, it was a guest then, and
you know, you have some really important questions.

Speaker 8 (02:50:24):
She never quite answered them. So now now her constituents
is answered.

Speaker 7 (02:50:29):
I bet that the day Joe, we call that a
straight up hashtag team whipped that ass beaten.

Speaker 8 (02:50:39):
Yeah for sure. I mean, you know, she's she's she's
in bad shape on that and so that's done.

Speaker 23 (02:50:44):
But the good news is they're probably won't be any
federal charges because you know, she's got a government that
might be a little bit sympathetic to that type of thing.
But if Illinois decides to move on her, she's gonna
have a separate problem. So the using losing the election
and an embarrassed in fashion might be the least of
her worries.

Speaker 7 (02:51:02):
Oh yeah, I mean, at the rate we're going, at
the rate were going, mustafa hell, she'll be high about
Trump administration.

Speaker 29 (02:51:12):
It's quite possible because they know that they need to
work on their diversity. But you know, besides that, I
mean there's a whole lot we could have said today
on the show about many of the things that they're
doing and these people they're putting in position and their
how it lines up with the things that they say
about DEEI, which we all know are not true. But

(02:51:33):
that's for another show, you know, in relationship to this.
You know, that's why we love the beauty of we
the people, because the people, when given the opportunity and
there is a fair process, they're.

Speaker 9 (02:51:43):
Going to choose the right individual to be able to
lead them.

Speaker 29 (02:51:46):
So I'm glad that folks had the opportunity to actually
do that and they cast their vote and now they have,
you know, new leadership.

Speaker 9 (02:51:53):
So we wish the new leadership.

Speaker 29 (02:51:54):
Well, but as I to be well said, you know,
we're gonna keep our eye on what's going on. We're
gonna make sure that there's real truth coming out of
what whatever administration.

Speaker 9 (02:52:03):
It is wherever across the country.

Speaker 7 (02:52:05):
Indeed, indeed, Mustafa, Joe Larry, I appreciate y'all being on
today's show. Thank you so very much. Hey, folks, don't
forget support the work that we do. This is all
about speaking to the news and issue that impact African Americans.
And let me explain something, y'all, it's a lot of
people who not black who watch us. Tamika Mallory sent
me a text today. I just want to read this

(02:52:27):
for y'all real quick. She sent me a text. She said, Roe,
thanks for having me on your show last week. Of
all of the ways people told me they learned about
my book tour, your show was mentioned at least twenty
times by different people of all ages, even one white
woman outside of my Instagram, you were my biggest push

(02:52:49):
for the weekend amazing events. Appreciate the support. Hashtag black
media is key. We have to support you folks. And
it's always interesting when people come on this show and
they go, oh my god, man, people calling me and
texting me and folks I hadn't heard from in years
who went to school with y'all. I'm like, y'all, we're literally,

(02:53:11):
we're doing thirty plus million views a month. Folk are
paying attention, they are reading, they're they're listening, they're watching, understanding.
Not only are they following us when it comes to
watching the show on YouTube or Facebook or Blackstart Network app,
they also are looking at our show on the various apps.
Pull that graphic up if y'all for our Blackstart Network app,

(02:53:33):
you could, of course download the app on your phone,
your Apple phone, your Android phone, but also we're available
on Roku, Amazon, fireTV, Xbox One, Samsung Smart TV. So
that's the app. And of course, and understand, and I'm
very transparent, y'all, that app costs US one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars a year. Why don't we have the
app because it's not just to be on those platforms.

(02:53:56):
It's also just in case if Facebook or YouTube decides
that they don't want to run our content, we have
our own place to run our content if any of
these platforms says no, that's why we spend one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars a year to do so. So
when you support this show, that's what you also are supporting.
You are supporting the work that we do you're supporting

(02:54:19):
how our broadcasts all across the country. You're supporting when
we travel, you're supporting the new shows that we have.
You're supporting the staff that we hire and the new
people who we're adding to the show as well, And
so all of those things are critically important, and I'm
always I'm just trying to get us just to understand
that we have to be absolutely about building black on media.

(02:54:43):
It's about us supporting black on media. It's about us
not willing to run from black on media because it's
not about just what somebody else says or does. It's
really also about how they're going to be able to
impact us, how we're going to be able to tell
our story, because I'm just not interested, y'all in asking

(02:55:05):
somebody else to tell our story. Y'all don't have heard
me say this a thousand times. I do not believe
that white ice is colder, and so we and I
say that because a lot of us we're all about validation.
We are all about what they say and what they do,
and so I just want you to understand why it's
also important for you support. Let me also give y'all

(02:55:26):
an update again being transparent y'all remember two thousand and
twenty December twenty twenty, we got us a sprinter for
our mobile broadcast. Go to my iPad is these are
the photos of that particular sprinter that and so y'all
see was an amazing sprinter. It looked great and all

(02:55:46):
of that. But guess what what happened was what happened
was we were returning from Essence in twenty twenty two.
That was a fool who decided to swerve in front
of our We're in front of our sprinter, which caused
it to be completely total. This is what it looked like.

(02:56:07):
And so this is what it looked like literally on
the freeway there I was. Of course, Deshaun Spent, our
driver was able to walk through the front windshield. That cocoon,
you see this right here, This is the those airbags
all deployed. That cocoon protected him. He had some aches

(02:56:27):
and pains, some minor scratches, but the bottom line is
he walked through the front window, so he was able
to survive that. Well, we were working with a black
owned company who screwed us out of a lot of money.
I'm trying to get that money back. Trust me and
if I got to file a lawsuit, I will be
filing a lawsuit against that woman. But we talked to

(02:56:50):
another particular company about it, and so what's going to
happen is in April, our new vehicle is going to
come to us. Now, this is not going to be
a sprinter. It's gonna be actually a larger vehicle. Because
what I did not like having that on the sprintter
that we had, they had a fiberglass Just show you

(02:57:13):
so you can understand what I'm talking about. So you'll
see right here, this is on the back of that
sprint of they had this fiberglass trunk. And so that
fiberglass trunk, you see it right there. It actually was
extended on the back and it actually threw the weight
off on the back of it. And so I didn't
want that far new vehicle, and so what I did

(02:57:33):
was I looked at the various options and we chose
to go with a Ford F five to fifty. It's
gonna be thirty five feet long. And so this is
not itself, but just want to show you some of
the features. This is what the bathroom is going to
look like in our new vehicle. This is what the microwave,
the counter, and the refrigerator looks like as well. This

(02:57:55):
is how some of the seating works. So that's curtain
right there. That's where we're actually gonna have a wall
there with a television on it because the drivers on
the other side of that particular curtain. So this right here,
you see the one at the bottom. That's we're going
to have forty eight inches of trunk space. That's going
to allow us people to carry our gear because I

(02:58:16):
want to be able to have that, so we don't
have that fiberglass trunk on the back. Everything is going
to be all in one to provide more safety when
we travel and broadcasts from it as well. So this
is typically what the door is going to look like
coming into the vehicle, and so this is what it's
going to look like on the exterior. It's going to
be black, and so this is just an example of

(02:58:37):
what some of some of the other vehicles look like.
Then you have this is another example of what the
vehicle looks like. This is one of the ones they
did that had an awning. I was going to get
the awning because a lot of times when we travel,
we want to be able to have something underneath. But
the problem was when they do these awnings. Now, when

(02:58:57):
the wind starts kicking up, it automatically closes. It does
any you don't have any manual control. So I didn't
do that because we are a pop up tent, we
can use that, So I didn't get the awning of
the vehicle. This is also an inside what was gonna look.
It's not gonna have this color scheme, but you just
see you have a sense of what the inside of

(02:59:18):
the vehicle will look like. And so the folks at
LGE are doing or building it. It will be It
will be delivered to us in April. And again this
is going to allow us to be able to Now
when we go on the road, we can almost even
do a broadcast from the inside because in the back
of the vehicle will be two captains' shares. It's gonna

(02:59:41):
be a television above us. And so if we want
to do a one on one interview in the vehicle,
if it is raining outside or whatever, we can actually
do that. And so I wanted to show you that
because a lot of you contributed to help us get
our new vehicle, and I'm always saying how we have
to be you know again, let y'all know what we're doing,

(03:00:01):
because when you are investing in this show, and you're
investing in my vision and for this show on this network,
I want to show you when you give donations, I
want to show you what it's going to. And so
when we travel and we now are going to be
around the country and we're traveling around Virginia helping speaker
Don Scott hold onto the house, we're going to be

(03:00:22):
that's what we're going to be doing. We're going to
be broadcasting with that vehicle, how we cover marchers and
things like that. We can mount cameras on the outside
of the vehicle, like we did a Reverend William Barber's
march in Texas, like we did in Tulsa the for
thee hundredth anniversary of the race massacre. And so I
just wanted to give y'all an update. Some of y'all
have been emailing me saying, hey, what's up, what's going on?

(03:00:45):
And like I said, you know, it was total. In
July twenty twenty two, we were working with a black
owned company and they messed us around in a huge way.
It has been a huge mess, and so I'm dealing
with that trying to get our money back, and it
is six figures and if need be, I will take

(03:01:05):
her to court uh and to get our money back.
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fan base as possible. Some of y'all asked me in
the chat what happened to the driver was actually what
happened was the guy was playing games on the road
and what he did was he slowed down and looked
over at Deshawn's smile and sped up and jumped in
front of him. And that's what calls Deshaun had to
swerve to miss him. And that's why the sprinter rolls
seven times on the highway there in Alabama. And so

(03:03:36):
once the vehicle arrives, then we're going to actually take
it somewhere else and it's going to be outfitted with
three hundred and sixty three or sixty degree cameras, so
if anything happens in the future, it will be recording
all the way around the vehicle. If anything like that
ever happens in the future, God forbid. All right, folks,
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