NUL Conference, Moral Monday Protests, Alligator Alcatraz Tour, Texas Flood Aid & SAU Appeal

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
To this Monday, July fourteenth, twenty twenty five, coming up
from Roland Mark Unfield dis streaming live on the Black
Start Network. National Urban League Conference takes place this week
in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Moreal, the President CEO, will.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Join us to talk about their agenda, especially when it
comes to the massive budget cuts that will have a
dramatic impact on Black America. Also on today's show, Moral
mondays protests taking place nationwide. They deliver the coffins to
the offices of Republican members of the House and the
Senate to show the impact on the devastating Medicaid cuts

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that were in that particular bill. Also Florida State Representative
Chevron Jones to up the controversial alligator Alcatraz in Florida.
UH had sharp words for what he discovered. He will
join us to tell us exactly what he saw. Also,
another Trump support us wondering, oh my goodness, where's the

(01:12):
government help. Well, there's some other videos where she was
trashing people who wanted the government help and the ladies'
developments instead of God, says University Debacle will tell you
all about it. It is time to bring the funk.
A Roland marked on filter on the black sid network.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Scott whatever he's sold it.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Whatever it is, he's got scho fact to find.

Speaker 6 (01:36):
Winna believes he's right on top.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
It is rolling.

Speaker 7 (01:39):
Best believe he's going.

Speaker 8 (01:42):
From this Loston houst to politics with entertainment, just book gigs.

Speaker 9 (01:47):
He's stolen.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
It's strolling.

Speaker 9 (02:00):
Rolling.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
He's she's built up.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Question.

Speaker 10 (02:07):
No, he's.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
H h h h. Folks.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Defend democracy, demand the diversity, Defeat poverty.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
That is the slogan of this week's National Urban League.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Convention, and it is, of course very timely when you
consider the massive budget cuts taking place in the nation's
capital regardles of so called Big Beautiful Bill that critics
called the Big Ugly Bill. Of course, National Urban League,
which is one of our legacy civil rights organizations, really
focused on economic empowerment, understands in terms of the impact

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of these issues financially on African Americans. They released their
State of Black America report that often details the condition
of Black America on an annual basis. Mark Morial is
the President and CEO of the National Urban League. He,
of course jones us right now, Mark, glad to have
you on the show. This is what we're looking at
right now. What we're facing right now is a significant issue. Sure,

(03:38):
we could talk about tarrors, we can talk about all
these different things, but these budget.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Cuts are huge because they speak to.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Loss of federal jobs that impacts black middle class families,
kids going to college. We talk about grant cuts, pale
grants as well. People really need to understand how significant
the these cuts are and how they can impact black folks.

Speaker 11 (04:03):
Roland, first of all, thank you and congratulations on the
success of the Black Star Network and you're continuing champion
and championing of black owned media. The Big Ugly Bill
is a moral outrage, and I use the term moral
because what it fundamentally does is it strips resources, money

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and investments away from poor, working and middle class Americans
and transfers it to America's less than one thousand billionaires.
Every Body in Black America should be outrage. The excuse me,
I'm fighting a little case of the hiccups. Outrage Roland,

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because not only medicaid, but education cuts, cuts to workforce,
cuts to housing, cuts to programs that and if it's
seniors and veterans, these cuts are gonna be devastating. Let
me tell you, the GOP has done something slick. They
front loaded the tax cuts, and they backloaded the cuts

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so they don't take effect until after the midterm elections
next year.

Speaker 12 (05:17):
So what they're gonna seek.

Speaker 11 (05:18):
To do is to run a game and say, well,
see it's had no impact, you haven't lost your health care,
and after the elections, boom, if this thing is not
repealed and replaced, then millions and millions of Americans are
gonna lose health care. We're gonna look, we're gonna go
back to where we were before President Obama took office.

Speaker 9 (05:40):
We're gonna go back twenty years. Excuse me, twenty years.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
You know, I don't think people don't really understand that.
I mean, let's go back the first time he was there. Well,
one of the things that happened when he came to
the tax cuts, they did the same thing.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
They back loaded the impact.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Is So the reason they were so desperate to pass
to extend these tax because it is because they were
going to dramatically jump because they same thing. They put
them on the front end and they exploded on the
back end. People like the last in twenty fty were like, yo,
what else happening was by taxes? They were blaming Biden Harris,

(06:23):
but no, that was actually the Trump tax Bill and Rowland.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 11 (06:28):
In the first term, they failed by one vote to
repealing the Affordable Care Act, and that Affordable Care Act
was the expansion of Medicaid.

Speaker 12 (06:40):
So we dodged a bullet in the first term.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
We've not dodged it here in the second Trump term.

Speaker 9 (06:46):
Look, we're in Cleveland for our annual conference, and it's.

Speaker 11 (06:49):
Great to be in a city led by a strong
young African American mayor, Justin Bibb, and also a strong
Urban League here in Cleveland led by Marshall Barcaby. Have
ten thousand people here in Cleveland participating in this conference.
It's going to be both live and virtual, and we're
going to be talking about the state of emergency for

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Black America. When it comes to democracy, when it comes
to economic opportunity, when it comes.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
To our fundamental rights, there is a state of emergency.

Speaker 12 (07:22):
And that's the theme of this year's State of Black America.

Speaker 11 (07:26):
So it remains a call to arms for everyone, everyone
to stand up and recognize you've got to use your voice.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
We have to protest, we have to litigate, we have
to do selected.

Speaker 11 (07:38):
We've got to do tru in the tool to battle
this because the long term implications are devastating.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Well, one of the things that we continue to focus
on this show.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
We talk about capacity capacity, capacity, capacity, capacity and try
to get people to understand what that capacity means.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
And what we're trying people understand.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Is that when you look at the black vote, when
you look at frankly, our capacity, we're not voting at
seventy percent. What's happening is we're sitting here voting in
much different ways. We're sitting here in some places thirty eight, forty,
forty two, forty five, and.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
I'm like, yo, that's not going to do it. We
could change the outcome of elections.

Speaker 11 (08:27):
Were surrendering our power with sitting on the side, and
we don't recognize that this country respects political power and
economic power full stop. And if we use our votes,
we maximize an keep an eye on mayoral elections New York, Atlanta,

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New Orleans among the number of this fall, to see
how high the turnout yet in those elections. Right, the
New York mayoral election had a slightly high out then
in previous years. But the African American turnout, it's nothing
to be proud of we are not voting, we're not

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using our voice, and we're making excuses to ourselves.

Speaker 12 (09:13):
And we got to call folk out.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
And say there's no excuse for standing on the side.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Well, no excuse for that.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
What I keep saying also is this is where we
must be funding things ourselves, controlling our own destiny, driving
our own vote, going precinct to precinct, studying the numbers
to see what our turnout is. And again you have
to connect political power with economic power. And then people say,

(09:44):
well we haven't gotten this, that and the other.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, this is how you do it. This is I
mean political Listen, that's what MAGA did. That's what the
right did.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
If people are mad about the MAGA agenda, guess what
They showed up in big numbers in two thousand and four,
and many.

Speaker 13 (10:01):
Of us did.

Speaker 9 (10:02):
Look one of the.

Speaker 11 (10:04):
Formulas for Trump's electoral success in both sixteen. He almost
did it in twenty, but we defeated him in twenty
and twenty four. He maximized the turnout in his base.
If we maximize turnout in our base, then people will
respect our agenda.

Speaker 12 (10:24):
That's what's important.

Speaker 11 (10:25):
Look, they can say what they want about Joe bid.
We made progress from the standpoint of elements of our
agenda under Joe Biden. He didn't get everything done, some
things were blocked, some things were thwarted. But you know,
we need eight to twelve years of a sustained commitment

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to our genera and the curve, then the curve when
it comes to wealth, and the curve when it comes
to hell, then the curve when it comes to education.

Speaker 12 (10:53):
Then the curve in a way that it cannot easily
be bent back.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well, I absolutely agree with that.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
First of all, for people who are not there, how
can they watch what's taking place as your convensioning Follow us.

Speaker 11 (11:12):
On all social media at that Urban League, follow us,
follow me at Mark Morel and then go to ANNUL
dot org Orannulconference dot org and we'll be streaming. We'll
be keeping people updated on all social media channels. So
look forward to see seeing you again soon. Rolland I

(11:35):
appreciate everything you do, man, keep fighting.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
All right, Mark Morial Presidency on National Urban League. We
really appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (11:44):
Thanks a lot, Thank you, brother Roland, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
All right, folks, gotta go to Brant We come back
more on rolland Martin on the Fielter on the Blackstart Network,
going to talk about, of course, our legacy civil rights organizations,
and we're going to talk about what took place today
across the country.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
More of money these.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
How they use the power of their voices to go
to go to the offices of these Republicans and hold
them accountable and say you voted for this bill and
these are going to be the impacts of the people,
your citizens.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
In your district.

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Speaker 2 (14:59):
Function It Out More Monday.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
It took place all across the country and Repairs of
the Breeds Poor People's campaign. They delivered caskets to the
offices of a number of Republicans who voted for this
latest Trump tax bill, letting them know how devastating Medicaid
and STAP benefits will be. They were in about fifteen
cities nationwide, including Greenville, South Carolina, where they delivered a

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casket to the office of Senator Lindsey Graham. Listen folks

(15:44):
in Memphis, Bishop William Barbara and along with hundreds of
protests delivered caskets to the O'Dell Norton Federal Building.

Speaker 10 (15:51):
There.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
During the event, they heard from impacted people and Barbara's
message was clear, we are not going to stand down.

Speaker 16 (16:03):
My name is Reverend Regina Clark and I stand with
you before you today, not just as a minister and
an ordained elder, but as someone who has walked through
the valleys that many of you may never imagine.

Speaker 17 (16:16):
I don't look like what I've been through.

Speaker 16 (16:19):
Let me just tell you about a reality that cuts deep,
a reality created by this legislation that doctor Bernice King,
the daughter of Martin Luther King Junior, has rightfully named
the bad awful.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Bill, deadly destructive bill. That's the name, big awful.

Speaker 16 (16:40):
Let me hear big, ugly, bad, ugly, deadly, ugly destruction.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
We got it.

Speaker 16 (16:49):
Domestic violence survivor. That's me, single parent, that's me, unhoused
for over ten months.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
That's me too.

Speaker 16 (16:59):
Do you know what it's like to hold two master's degrees,
be pursuing a doctorate, be called reverend, and still need
snap benefits?

Speaker 17 (17:09):
Do you know what it's like to have survived.

Speaker 16 (17:10):
Homelessness, stabilized your life, and then watch the government punish
you for serving your community. While I maintain my faith
in Jeremiah twenty nine to eleven that God has plans
to prosper me and not to harm me. This bill
does everything possible to attack that faith and strip away
that hope to our legislators. I have urgent questions. How

(17:34):
can you make securing hard health care harder?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
How can you.

Speaker 16 (17:38):
Eliminate student loan protections for those who are trying to
better themselves? How can you strip away dignity one meal
at a time.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
I need to know how I'm sold to.

Speaker 16 (17:49):
Tell domestic violence survivors, students in the classrooms where I teach, veterans,
and community members who are on the verge of giving
up to keep the faith and have home. So when
the government punishes us and tells us that we're not enough,
even though we're working and we're serving, this law doesn't

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just attack our stomachs, It attacks our souls. It doesn't
just cut benefits, It cuts our ability to serve. When
you strip away someone's food security, you strip away their
strength to lift others. When you make health care inaccessible,
you make it impossible for people like me to stay
healthy enough to serve our communities. SNAP and medicaid are

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not just about dependency. They're about dignity. They're about giving
people like me the foundation to serve others, to pursue education,
to build communities. After surviving homelessness and health crisis, I
may not look like what I've been through, but I
look like so many others that I've met, those who
work daily while wondering where will they sleep safely, whether

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they will have a nutritious meal today, and what they
will do if their health can't withstand another attack. We
are your teachers, your ministers, your students.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
And your neighbors.

Speaker 16 (19:09):
We are the ones holding your community together, and this
bill seeks to tear us apart. Let's stand up and
let's stand.

Speaker 9 (19:18):
Together, disciples happy.

Speaker 7 (19:22):
I just want to go back to something that Bishop
Barber says.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
We can't just come to these rallies.

Speaker 18 (19:28):
We can't just think.

Speaker 7 (19:31):
Because we showed up here in Memphis, Tennessee, that we're
done and you could feel good about yourself.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
Even if you are to be arrested, you will not.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Have done what actually needs to be done.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
We have passed.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
Resolution after resolution, and I'm weary.

Speaker 19 (19:50):
That's right, That's right, I'm weary of words.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I say this all the time.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
It is time for us to be the church that
we say.

Speaker 18 (19:58):
We are.

Speaker 19 (20:01):
A church that loves boldly enough and courageously enough that
we will be not only in the streets of DC,
but in the streets of our hamlets and towns, going
door to door, registering, talking to our neighbors, regardless of
their station in life, regardless of their race or ethnicity,
trying to help people understand from our pulpits.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
That this is the work of the Lord, This is.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
The work of God.

Speaker 7 (20:27):
People say, well, Terry, you're not spending enough time on evangelism.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
Let me tell you what evangelism is.

Speaker 19 (20:34):
How evangelism is telling people who Jesus is.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
And how can you know who.

Speaker 19 (20:41):
Jesus is unless you know what Jesus cares about. Jesus
cares about your humanity. Jesus cares that you eat, that
you have a safe.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
Place to live, that you have a job where you
can provide for your family, but you have.

Speaker 19 (20:53):
An education that's not based on a zip code.

Speaker 17 (20:57):
Jesus cares that.

Speaker 19 (20:58):
We understand we have enough that none should perish, that
none should go without.

Speaker 7 (21:04):
I'm weary, Disciples, I'm wearied. Yes, I'm not just marching
and talking for my own health or benefit.

Speaker 19 (21:12):
It's because this is.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
The work of the Lord.

Speaker 7 (21:14):
When we go down from this place, the disciple said,
always been good to be here, Say us, it's been
good to be here. We can't stay in this place.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
There is work for us to do.

Speaker 7 (21:26):
Every resolution that we pass, you go home and say
we oppose Project twenty five. What am I going to
do in my local community to let my legislators know?

Speaker 4 (21:36):
What am I going to do to mobilize people to
the poles?

Speaker 2 (21:39):
What are we going to do?

Speaker 6 (21:41):
Disciples, I'm weary.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
That's it.

Speaker 7 (21:44):
God is calling for more. Let us be the church
that we say we are. I want to invite my sister,
who's a testifier. Doctor Lee Butler this morning talked about
social theological narcissism when you have decided that it's your perspective,
your words, your rules.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
Your ways that matter, that's right and are the only way.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
But God has made us in such delicious diversity, and
our differences do not make us deficient. We must hear
every voice. We must respect, as John Lewis said, every
spark of humanity that is within us all.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
We don't have the right to ignore it.

Speaker 19 (22:23):
So I invite my sister to come forward, receive her.

Speaker 9 (22:26):
God bless you.

Speaker 18 (22:29):
As the first word of the Gospel, and our general
Minister has taught us this is the spirit of the
Lord is upon me to preach good news to the poor. Yes,
So any body pastor doesn't know the poor in and
around your church aren't preaching the gospel. That's right, right

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and poor, But tokos is the word. It means those
who've been made poor by policies of poverty and violence.
And as we stand here today, even before this big, deadly,
ugly destructive bill, don't ever refer to it as a

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big beautiful don't use that language. Big badly, deadly destructive bill.
Eight hundred people were dying a day from poverty, yeah,
two hundred and ninety five thousand a year. Now the
church as a whole has to repent on this. The
Pew Foundation did a study and said that they studied

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fifty thousand sermons a few years ago and said the
subject and issue of poverty did not even register one
percent of the sermons preached. That's why, thank you Gentlem
minister for calling us the task and this is not
the actually I want. Because people sometimes come to a
rally and they think they spoke truth to power. M

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Jim Lawson said, the mass rally is for mass education.
It is what you do after the rally. So if
you come to the rally at General Assembly, but then
go home, and be quiet, and won't march on your senator,
won't sit in at your senator's office. Then you've got

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poetry without practice. Jesus said, the word says be hearers
and doers. That's why we've got caskets. This is serious.
That's why we're delivering them to senate offices all over
the South eleven states, deliberately delivering them, intentionally putting a

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face on it. I don't know what their action is
going to be when we deliver them today, and we're
saying this is not just the only time we're going
to do it. Just as Rosa Parks sat down, we've
got to sit down, stand up, speak up in this moment.
When fifty seven years ago and King was here, he

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said nothing would be more tragic than for us to
turn back now. And fifty eight, fifty seven years ago
he was here on a poor people's campaign, and fifty
seven years later, we got one hundred and forty million poor,
low waged people in this country, forty three percent of
the nation, fifty one percent of our children. And then

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on top of that, this bill that has put money
behind murder. That's what this bill is done. And the
Bible says where your heart is, that's where your treasure is.

Speaker 20 (25:55):
Right.

Speaker 18 (25:56):
So this this bill was passed by the now of margins.
Ninety million people didn't vote last year. The Congress as
it is now, the House of Representative is the way
it is because of only seven thousand votes.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
And this is the largest.

Speaker 18 (26:15):
Transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich since
chattel slavery.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
The only thing that might be worse, well, it was
chattel slavery.

Speaker 18 (26:29):
Its slashing of services is going to cause economic insecurity
and preventable deaths. This bill invests one hundred and fifty
billion dollars to hire more MASK agents to raid immigrant community.

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Somebody say, mass education and all that we do today
is going to be sent to you, so you can
preach and teach and go right. One hundred and fifty
million dollars given to Homeland Security, gift to and you
know mask in the South. The only good person that
wore a mask in the South was the Lone Range
and he was questionable because of the way he treated Tanto.

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Mask is ku klus Klan. Mask is the Gastapo.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
This bill is a thousand pages of ugliness.

Speaker 18 (27:37):
This bill ten top ugliest things General minister is death
by denial of health care. And this is not Alvin
Jackson or Terry hord ORNs or any of us just
coming up with something.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yale and the University of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 18 (27:53):
Did a study and found that fifty one thousand people
will die the first year and every year afterwards probably
going up because of this bill. And whenever you do
something and you know it's going to kill somebody, that's
not manslaughter, that's murder, policy murder. And the folk already work,

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that's a lie about working. And we're talking about disabled people.
We're talking about people with diabetes and heart problem, we're
talking about children with.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Life diseases and chronic diseases.

Speaker 18 (28:34):
This bill will create a hospital apocalypse. More than seven
hundred rural hospitals are already at risk of closing already,
and three hundred and thirty eight are now at risk
because of this bill, which means people.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Will lose the golden hour.

Speaker 18 (28:55):
In other words, the goal of a hospital is you
want want at least within an hour have a heart attack.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
It's called a golden hour. Yes, yes, third, say third.

Speaker 18 (29:06):
This bill takes food from the mouths of hungry people
so it can give more money to the greedy people,
and it takes money from millions of children and veterans.
And before this bill squeezes states on snap. So it

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takes the money and then says to the state, you're
gonna have to find the money. Now, you know what's
gonna happen in the South when it's pushed back to
the state. It either won't happen or only certain communities
will benefit. This bill bars lawfully present listen, lawfully present

(29:47):
immigrants from aid. This this whole thing about illegal. First
of all, who are you to call somebody illegal? That's
legal human being?

Speaker 3 (29:56):
And how do you call somebody illegal for being here
when they didn't.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Cross the border.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
We crossed the border.

Speaker 18 (30:01):
We stole Texas, we stole Arizona, we stole California, we
stole New Mexico.

Speaker 21 (30:08):
Yes, yes, right.

Speaker 18 (30:12):
This bill will terrorize even more immigrant families because of
the militarization. And you know, we were told by Trump
and the team that Mexico is gonna build a wall.
Were now the money for the so called wall is
in the bill, and it's gonna and guess who are
the private companies they're gonna be contract This bill takes

(30:36):
from the poor and gainst. This bill says that the
poorest twenty percent of households will pay an extra thousand
dollars or so a year. The wealthiest households will gain
three hundred thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
All right, folks, By pound the Congo being a senior
PROFETI Lecture, School of the International Service, American University, author
of Lives About Black People, How to Combat Racist out
of DC, Raven Schwam Curtis, content creator and keynote speaker
out of Chicago. Doctor Neonmbe Carter, author and Associate Professor,
School of Public Policy, University of Maryland, joining us from DC.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Glad to have all three of you here. I'm gonna
start with you.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
I was very critical last week of a news conference
that took place in New Orleans that featured Democratic leader
Kim Jeffries, Congressman Detroit Carter, Congresswoman Robin Kelly, Congresswoman W. W.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Wassington Shultzen, one or.

Speaker 12 (31:39):
Two of the members of Congress.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
And the problem I had was, Okay, they had it
in New Orleans, all right, I get it, but I'm like,
take the message to the district.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Go speak of Mike Johnson.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
What Bishop Barbara is doing in repairs of the breach
of the Poor People's campaign. They're taking the fight to
the very people who voted against it. This is where
you must be hardcore, challenging Mike Johnson. You must be
in their face, going to their districts, driving media attention
there because, as Mark Morial said, what they've done is

(32:12):
they've backloaded this particular bill so the custs don't taking
place until after the midterms. Democrats have got to be
in the face of voters, their own voters as well
as Republican voters, saying we're going to tell you every
little bitty thing about this bill and how you got screwed.

Speaker 22 (32:32):
Absolutely, and I think this is why there's been consistent
criticism of Democrats in leadership like Jeffries, like Schumer that
they're just not ready for the challenge because they don't
seem to want to get out there and fight. And
this is not going to be something that is won
in the halls of Congress. I mean, we can give
that up. I mean today we saw the Supreme Court
essentially expand the power of the office as the president.

(32:55):
He can dismantle agencies now with no congressional approval. So
doing this you channels is not going to work. And
one of the things that Moral Monday's taught us, you know,
over ten years ago when the first round started in
North Carolina, is that this can't be a one off.
It is consistent, and it has to be all kinds
of communities engaged. And right now, given the what's happened

(33:18):
in Missouri with the tornado, what's happened in Texas with
the flooding, I mean, this is a prime time for
this Democratic partner pull itself together and bring in not
only their voters, but those people who might have been
persuaded by a Trump or those people who are like
I'm not sure if I'm really a Republican, but I

(33:39):
like this message. Bring those people in because now they're
actually seeing and reaping the whirlwind of what this the
chaos that this administration has brought thus far, and the
fact that they are not thinking that way, the fact
that they are not being more proactive, is I think
one of the things that is consistently infuriating and why

(33:59):
we are being some of the upsets like you saw
with Mom Donnie in New York. And I think they're
Democrats if they don't get it together, they're going to
lose in the midterm.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
And the thing here, Raven, is not what you say,
it's how you say it.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
It's how it is presented. And you have to start
for the premise because right ring media is not doing it.
These folks are not getting information. Fox News is not
talking about it. Conservative talk radio is not talking about it.
So what you have to do is go there, force
them to cover it and tell the people. We're going
to tell you what's really happening in DC and the

(34:36):
impact on you.

Speaker 23 (34:37):
Here absolutely, And I think a big part of this
fight as well is social media, right. I mean, my
job all day, every day is yapping on the internet
about all things education and politics. And unfortunately, what we're seeing,
per this Media Matters study that came out just a
couple of months ago, is that the right is winning
the media game. They're outspending us, there are more of them,

(34:58):
and they have bigger followings. So, as someone who is
part of the progressive ecosystem, everyone in this space that
we're sharing tonight, we have a grave responsibility to not
only disseminate progressive messaging in the online ecosystem, but also
to amplify what people are doing on the grassroots level,
and that's what we're really here talking about today. I
also think something that really jumped out to me as
we were watching those faith leaders talk about why they're

(35:20):
gathering in this moment was this verbiage of social theological narcissism.
Social theological narcissism that like jumped out to me, And
I think we have to talk about the Big Ugly
Bill through the lens in paradigm of Christian nationalism, right,
because when I say Christian nationalism, I mean the particular
taking up and reading of Christianity that is then turned

(35:42):
into something myopic. It makes Christianity perform a certain kind
of work it was never intended to perform a certain
kind of work.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
That actually, as those.

Speaker 23 (35:49):
Faith leaders were naming the trays the teachings of Christianity
and the Teachings of Jesus in a.

Speaker 6 (35:54):
Way that is actively harming their constituents.

Speaker 23 (35:57):
And I think for me, what was really late le
a slap in the face as we were watching all
these proceedings around the Big Ugly Bill unfold was the
fact that Republican senators, after they passed the.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
Big Ugly Bill, what did they do. They gathered to
pray after they stripped away your.

Speaker 23 (36:14):
Access to Medicaid, to SNAP, to PEL grants, to critical
social safety nets, they prayed that is such a slap
in the face to the American people. It is a
slap in the face, particularly to the constituents of these
Republican members of Congress who rely heavily on these services,
right heavily on these services. On average, red states are

(36:35):
poorer and sicker. And so I think it's really just
an abomination. And we absolutely have a responsibility on the
commentary side to amplify the harm that's being caused in real.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Time and on congo. It has to be aggressive, it
has to be constant. You must be pounding.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
I mean, I'm telling you, you got to be dispatching
people across the country.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
And again, it's how you do it, how you convey
the message. And I just think that.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
You know, too often I'm seeing I'm not seeing enough
of them do that. And you have to make the
assumption that the people are gonna be hurt the most
they're not getting the message in a consistent way, and
that's how you must deliver and say no, no, we
got it. We're gonna do that and then put put

(37:30):
keep that pressure on them and force them to have
to answer to it. Like perfect example, there's a provision
in this bill that teachers can't even deduct up to
three the match they get is up to three hundred
dollars if they buy their own supplies for the classrooms.
Yet somebody can deduct one hundred percent of a private jet.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
You gotta be talking about that.

Speaker 9 (37:55):
Yeah, you absolutely do.

Speaker 21 (37:57):
And it's not even it's not only the importance of
talking about it, but like you said, where you talked about,
where you talk about. I loved your segment last week
about Mike Johnson is showing up at his door.

Speaker 17 (38:07):
What makes no sense to me is why aren't these Democrats.

Speaker 21 (38:10):
They should be partnering with Reverend Barber and everywhere they
do a Moral Monday's event, there should be a representative there.

Speaker 17 (38:17):
The part of this that is really sad is that
the Democrats don't have to build a coalition from the ground.

Speaker 21 (38:25):
They already exist with moral Mondays organizations like Indivisible. We
can run down the list, and you know, Obama talked
about this apparently last week got a fundraiser about how
Democrats need to be tougher in what they're doing. Democrats
do not need to reinvent the wheel. They need to
get with the people, the people who are leading the movements.
And I believe one of the arap haandlists last week

(38:46):
when you're doing the Mike Johnson segment said, who even
saw what how King Jeffreys and them did in Louisiana? Right,
because where's the where the press announcements where? Letting the
Blackstar network. No, this is where we're gonna be letting
other people know where we're gonna be. So it's about
toughening up. It's about what you say, but it's also
important about where you say it. And they can't just

(39:06):
keep going on you know, the video feed on their
congressional page or their senatorial page, or you know, the
random visits to random radio stations. They are not concerted
and they are not organized. There are so many look
at those where do they they have they harness the
No King's energy? You know, I know that many of
them appear at many of those rallies, but what have
they done since then? There's so much energy out there.

(39:28):
People are waiting for this. They're hungry for their leadership
to represent and just like doctor Niambeop was saying, you
cannot take these mid terms for granted, especially with the
election shenanigans that you talked about with your other guests
a few weeks ago, and then possibly messing with voting
booths and all of these other types of things. If
they don't stop taking this stuff for granted, I'm very

(39:48):
nervous about twenty twenty six. If they don't get it
together now.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Well absolutely, and so you know we're gonna keep reaching people,
teaching people, letting know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
All right, gonna go to a quick break. Ooh, y'all,
I just don't. I just love Maga Orange Tears. One
of the folks in Texas. We need help, but they
pull the receipts.

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Speaker 1 (42:22):
Oh yeah, I can't get enough of these maga people
who voted for Trump and no begging.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
This time a maga woman in.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Texas crying begging for help after the community devastated by
deadly floods.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
But in this video you also see the other side
of her.

Speaker 9 (42:50):
As sure you can't be maga. I am maga and
a Christian.

Speaker 19 (42:55):
This is crazy.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
I know we're not kirk County.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
I know we're not Kerville. No, we're not San Angelo
or San Antonio.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
But how were human beings?

Speaker 10 (43:04):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (43:04):
I think we woke up this morning misinformed, the hates
on the love, not on the megaside.

Speaker 9 (43:10):
We're you gonna do okay, baby.

Speaker 19 (43:14):
Alligator alligator alcatras.

Speaker 6 (43:17):
If you and what you're gonna do, baby, help us give.

Speaker 26 (43:24):
Us what we need.

Speaker 19 (43:25):
I'm gonna tell you, fa and O, We're not gonna
help out anybody.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Y'all been living on food.

Speaker 19 (43:31):
Stamps, eb T Section eight housing your entire freaking life,
and you're not gonna do it anymore.

Speaker 24 (43:39):
If you can work for an able body person, go.

Speaker 26 (43:41):
Get a job.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
I'm tied of paying for it.

Speaker 7 (43:44):
But for God's sakes, Travis County, help.

Speaker 9 (43:46):
Us have the day you deserve.

Speaker 27 (43:57):
Really, It's a amazing raven how those words, those angry
get a dive, go do it justself.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
You don't need the government. It always happens.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
They're the biggest whiners and criers when they get in trouble.

Speaker 23 (44:22):
Absolutely, Roland, I mean, I couldn't help but laugh as
I was watching this video. Unfortunately, obviously, the devastation in
Texas is awful regardless.

Speaker 6 (44:30):
Of one sort of political affiliation.

Speaker 23 (44:32):
I grew up in Texas for contexts, Houston is home
for me, and so I saw a family there, and
I've felt the impact of these lads very personally. I mean, look,
I think the unfortunate truth here is that they don't
care until the ramifications of putting these bigots and positions
of power reach their doorstep. They don't care. And I

(44:52):
think also what we're hearing in sort of this contradiction
of her, you know, begging for help and empathy, but
also sort of regurgitating this far right discord us around
food stamps and EBT and Section eight is really the
result of successful messaging on the right.

Speaker 6 (45:07):
The right has so effectively painted these social safety.

Speaker 23 (45:10):
Nets as tools that only only or predominantly benefit black
and brown people, but The truth is, white.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
Folks benefit tremendously from these programs.

Speaker 23 (45:21):
Around forty five percent of all adult SNAP recipients are white.
Approximately forty nine percent of Section eight residents are white.
But during the Reagan era, this misogynistic idea of the
welfare queen, which essentially was their idea of a black
single mother with a bunch of babies on our hip
from different fathers, was so powerfully and effectively disseminated that

(45:43):
that is still how people imagine these social safety nets
and who's benefiting from them. They imagine that as all
black and brown folks who are taking advantage of these apparatuses.
And even if that were the case, y'all, social safety
nets are a sign of a functioning and compassionate democracy,
not an indicator of failure. So I really see this
individuals as reflecting this successful dissemination of that far right messaging.

Speaker 6 (46:06):
Unfortunately, in that contradiction.

Speaker 18 (46:08):
Using.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
BAULM.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Congo's no different than Republican senators like Rand Paul and
Josh Howley ted Cruz voting against disaster relief and then
all of a sudden when their states.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Are hit, oh my god, we need help.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
I mean, this is the fundamental problem, and so yeah,
I don't give a damn about her tears.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
I mean, listen, I hate to go there.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
I'm a native of Texas, but these are the people
who are asholes to everybody else until they have to
face destruction.

Speaker 21 (46:46):
Yeah, you can also add it to conversations about immigration
as well. They get mad until their cook gets taken
from their favorite restaurant, or their relatives niece gets taken
from their favorite place of school because they happen to
be left to you know, like the level of selfishness
is amazing but not surprising. And though many people don't
give a damn about these folks at all when they

(47:07):
see these faf FU moments. This kind of ties back
to our last segment. This is a prime opportunity for
democrats because when these folks once she gets to services,
kind of going to Raven's point, like, once she gets
to services, she's going to go right back to her
other videos about theologists, welfare queens, y all, y'all care
about it once she gets theirs. And this is an

(47:28):
opportunity for democrats in these areas, or democrats running for
state right offices to go down to these places and
really talk to them about what happened and how they're
going to get the services that they need, and convince
them that it is actually okay that other people get
access to these services as well that you're begging for.
Right now, this could be a prime opportunity for the Democrats.
While many other folks are laughing at her, you know, saying,

(47:52):
you know, screw her and all of this.

Speaker 17 (47:53):
Other type of stuff.

Speaker 21 (47:54):
There's a political opportunity here because too many of these
guys they complain in wind, but once they get their
services or once they get their help, they disappear. Democrats
should do the work to bring them in. These are
potentially independent voters.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Absolutely, And you know what, Aniambi, there were actually Mexican
volunteers who crossed the border to help folks in Kirk
County in this search. And it's interesting that Trump and
others they praised other countries. Texas Governor Greg Abbott he
praised other states the countries.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
For help, but he said nothing about those Mexican volunteers.

Speaker 13 (48:35):
I wonder why.

Speaker 9 (48:37):
Well we know about Roland, right?

Speaker 22 (48:39):
I mean, is the racism once again costing Americans? I mean,
quite frankly, the Americans don't deserve Mexicans help in their
largest in this moment. I mean, they had the indignity
of essentially margin those people right back across the border
without so much as a thank you. I mean, these
were people who were saving when the local government and

(49:03):
other agencies were just not able to do it. And
yet we treat them like they were coming here to invade,
when in fact they were doing what we would expect
any neighbor to do, which is be an assistant, to
be a help in a time of tragedy. Putting all
of the rational and reasonable reasons that Mexico had not

(49:24):
to intervene and just watch that to suffer. They still said, no,
We're going to have these people come and assist. And
I think this is something that both my co panuins,
both Raven and Oma Congo, said over and over again.
These people want other people to hurt. They don't actually
care about the pain, just as long as they don't

(49:45):
have to shoulder. You're happy for black and brown and
the resource and poor communities to show with the burden
of environmental calamities, to have to deal with the havoc
that these immigration raising other draconian policies are going to cause.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Until it happens to them. And we're going to see
the very same thing with education.

Speaker 22 (50:05):
Once their kids stop getting the services that the Department
of Education might provide or make their locals provide.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
For them, we're going to see these very same people talking.

Speaker 22 (50:15):
About how their child is being harmed because they are
not getting access to the resources that they need under
say the Americans with Disabilities Act. And this is the
same thing where there's immigration, environment, et cetera. The pain
was the point they just didn't want to shoulder it themselves,
and and everybody kept telling them, hey, you all, if

(50:36):
they take away snap, the takeaway food staff, they take
away housing assistance, they take away free lunch, that's going
to hurt y'all too.

Speaker 9 (50:44):
They thought they were only going to do it.

Speaker 22 (50:45):
To the black and the brown people, and now that
they're feeling it now they're like, oh, well, maybe this
isn't such a good idea, But I guarantee once they
get the help that they want, once they get the
help that they need.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
They will be ready to pull that ladder up one
more time for somebody else.

Speaker 17 (51:03):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 12 (51:05):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Absolutely, And it happens over and over and over again.
It is sitting in our very eyes. And I just
sit here and I'm like, y'all, I mean, we can
dance around this all we want to, but it's there.
And so I just don't understand how people don't see it,

(51:26):
don't understand it.

Speaker 18 (51:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
And again the CRIW is going to continue, and Omi
kan go listen. We're gonna listen. The stormers are gonna continue,
the hurricane is going to continue.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
And I can't wait to see these people then say well, no, no,
y'all voted for this. Then when they say no, I didn't,
Yes you did, Yes you did. Oh oh you weren't
paying attention, but you voted for it.

Speaker 17 (51:51):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 21 (51:52):
The chaos is the point they wanted the chaos. They
want destruction. And this is what Trump plays into regularly.
And it goes down to the LBJ quotation that we've
used all of the time here that Docr. Madison used
to say, you know, in summarizing it, you know, he
convinced white people to look down on other people and
once he let them, once he did that, they emptied

(52:14):
their pockets for him, period. Bottom line. And whether you know,
doctor Aambisto can buy education. We can talk about Medicare.
I mean, look at the tax bill and this idea.
But I also feel like some of them really are nihilistic,
you know, really like want everything to burn. They don't
want anybody to get ahead, even if it means that

(52:35):
people won't get ahead as well.

Speaker 17 (52:36):
And that's for that, you know, real hardcore base that's
riding with him.

Speaker 21 (52:40):
They can stomach maybe even losing Medicare and all of
these different things as long as that brown person doesn't
get it too. They can stomach, you know, seeing the
Department of Education fold. As long as these ice raids continue.
The zero sum game mentality that so many of them
have been raised with is extremely evil, and.

Speaker 17 (52:57):
Some will come around, some will say this is not
what I voted for, this is not America.

Speaker 21 (53:02):
But really, at the end of the day, as it's
been said here already, they voted for it to not
happen to them. And once we start getting more the
Reverend Barber's out there who talks about commune many finding
common ground and appeal to them from that level. We're
not going to get all of them, but we need
to just get enough of them to be able to
suay some of these votes. Because I'm still not convinced
that many of us are going to be coming out
in this next election either. So again, this is a

(53:24):
political opportunity for leadership. But we need to call them
out for who these people are and what they're doing.
And nobody should have been mad for Hillary Clinton for
calling them deplorable, because that's exactly what their actions are.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
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Speaker 1 (53:40):
We're going to talk about alligated Alcatraz in Florida. We'll
talk with the state representative who actually toured the facility
that can share his own perspective on that. You're watching
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Next on the Black Table with me Greg Call, we
look at one of the most influenced and permanent Black
Americans of.

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The twentieth century. His work literally changed the work.

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Among other things, he played a major role in creating
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first person of color to win the Nobel Peace Prize,
and yet today he is hardly a household name.

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We're talking, of course, about Ralph J.

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Bunch.

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A new book refers to him as the absolutely indispensable Maid.

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His lifelong interest and passion in racial justice, specifically in
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the United States as just the other side of the
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Trying to roll back European Empire and Africa.

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Speaker 1 (55:29):
Hundreds of deten migrants are confined in cages, inside tents
and what the critics are calling Trump's Alligator Alcatraz. It
is located deep in the Florida Everglades and surrounded by
swamps and pythons. The controversial migrant jail has drawn sharp criticism.
Florida Jona Ronald Santa Is called the facility quote safe
and secure, while Democratic lawmakers describe it as humane. One

(55:52):
of those folks who visited the facility over the weekend
is State Senilar Shervan Jones.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
He visited Jones Is down to talk about what he saw.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
So first and foremost representative Jones, you and others described
just the shameful and inhumane conditions there.

Speaker 29 (56:11):
Yeah, Brland, So I mean, first, I think it's important
to point out that when we got there to the
facility the first time with my colleagues and I went
on July third, we went because they told us that
it was a state run facility, and based on the
Florida Statue, it gives us the ability to go into
any state room or country run facility are announced, and
that's exactly what we did. But we would stop at

(56:33):
first by police, by the police officers and marine cards
to let us know that we could not come in.

Speaker 9 (56:40):
We asked them to come out, and it's.

Speaker 29 (56:42):
For them, their leader, i mean, see their director, to
come out so we can talk to them. He came
out and said that he was directed by the Florida
Department of Emergency management not to allow us in, so
we asked if we could heap to the General Council.
We spoke with their General Council Stephanie, who told us
that we had to come back because the conditions were
unsafe for us to be there by. To mind you,
the President had just been there the day before. Fast

(57:04):
forward to just last week, Congressional members, they made it
clear that they were going to do a surprise visit.
It got out to the Florida Department Emergency Management, and
what did they do. They sent an email out to Congress,
and they sent an email out to the Florida Senate
and also to the state Reps and opened up the
facility to everyone, giving them enough time to clean up

(57:24):
whatever they need to clean up. And then we're going
too this sanitize facility of a tour.

Speaker 9 (57:31):
Here's what I will tell.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
You, Roland.

Speaker 9 (57:32):
When we got into the tour, they took us.

Speaker 29 (57:36):
In and directed us of where and who we will
be able to talk with and who we will not
be able.

Speaker 12 (57:42):
To talk with.

Speaker 29 (57:43):
So much so that even in the intake, individuals were
lined up and they were prepared to get their medical
attention that was necessary, but they would not take us
into the medical facility. The one time we were able
to get into to even be able to see what
was going on the side and ask can we see
the inmates. They blocked us with contracted security guards from

(58:06):
even being able to go in where it was eighty
one degrees in the spot.

Speaker 9 (58:09):
Where we were sitting, and individuals that were in there,
they start yelling out liberty, liberty, liberty.

Speaker 29 (58:16):
That doesn't sound like individuals who are harmed. Let's someone
speak calling out freedom and liberty and inhumane treatments.

Speaker 9 (58:26):
That's happening. That's what's happening in the state of Florida
right now.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
So one story that said that most of the people
there they're not violent criminals at all, that they're just
shipping anybody there.

Speaker 9 (58:41):
That's exactly what's happening.

Speaker 25 (58:42):
Roland.

Speaker 9 (58:42):
What you have is these are not new people.

Speaker 29 (58:46):
These are individuals who are who are being shipped from
other centers and other detention centers. For example, we know
that Chrome in Miami is full, and so they're taking
individuals from facilities like Chrome and from facilities all across
the country, and they're bringing them to.

Speaker 9 (59:04):
The facility, and they're making it seem as if they're
rallying up new immigrants, and that's not the case. These
are not new immigrants. The second thing is this idea
that this is the worst of the worst that's inside
this facilities. That's also not true.

Speaker 29 (59:17):
Individuals who are inside the facility are some people who
have civil infractions. I'm talking about driving of a suspended
license on their way to work type of individuals. And
each person is separated by a risk band. You either
get a red risk band which means the most severe,
and Orange risk band that mean like medium security. And

(59:39):
then you get the yellow risk band meaning that they
are no risk at all. And those individuals are also
withinside the facility. And so this idea that these people
are harmful.

Speaker 9 (59:49):
That's absolutely not true. Here's what I will say.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
The question was.

Speaker 9 (59:52):
Asked Chevyn, what would you what is one thing that
you would be able to get on board with.

Speaker 29 (59:58):
If they were genuinely arrested criminals in the state of
Florida or across the country. I could get behind that
because me nor you ruling but want criminals in the
state or within the country.

Speaker 9 (01:00:10):
But that's not what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
And also the building of this is him is lied
to state lawmakers, lied to the public.

Speaker 9 (01:00:21):
Well, because the governor. The governor, what he did was
he deemed this as an emergency.

Speaker 29 (01:00:28):
So what does what does that do that allows him
unfeathered power to where he does not have to get
legislative authority. He can do no big contracts, which he
did would He has given out the contracts to many of.

Speaker 9 (01:00:42):
His GOP donors. And that's exactly what you see.

Speaker 29 (01:00:46):
I'm talking upwards to one hundred two hundred million dollars
worth of contracts of individuals.

Speaker 9 (01:00:51):
Who are now subcontract self contracted.

Speaker 29 (01:00:54):
To be honest with you, rolling, this site is absolutely
being run as exactly like a private prison in the
state of Florida. You have the contract security gods who
are there, you have the contract fool that's there, and
they are even using the terminology when it comes when
it comes to it being under prison standards, it is
being run like a prison.

Speaker 9 (01:01:15):
I'm talking about individuals even with having change four.

Speaker 29 (01:01:18):
Hundred and fifty million dollars, four hundred and fifty million dollars,
and the governor and his office know better because they
know that anything over five hundred million dollars, even in
an emergency, you have to get legislative of legislative approval.
Here's the question, why didn't the governor during the one
hundred and five day legislative session, by mind you, which

(01:01:38):
should have been sixty, why didn't he bring that to
the legislature?

Speaker 18 (01:01:42):
You know why?

Speaker 29 (01:01:43):
Because he knew he would not be able to get
across the finish line in the House because they're not
his friend.

Speaker 9 (01:01:48):
He knew he wouldn't be able to give you across
the finishing line in the Senate because I know that
he's not.

Speaker 29 (01:01:54):
They're not his friend, many of them are not, and
so that's why he would with this route demon this
as an emergency. But guess what in the middle of
hurricane season.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Question from the panel of Make Congo your First.

Speaker 21 (01:02:10):
Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention,
because so many of us across the country have been
really concerned about what's going on there. One story I
heard was that somebody shouted out to you while you
were there that they were an American citizen. I believe
I had Representative Maxwell Foss talk about that. Is this
something that you've also been looking into?

Speaker 29 (01:02:31):
So the fact that Congressman Frost and I were in
the same group, We were in Group one together and
we did hear an individual yell out that.

Speaker 9 (01:02:40):
I am an American citizen.

Speaker 29 (01:02:42):
Congressman Frost, Congresswoman Debbie Watson and Schultz, and Congressman Jared
mosk Wood and Congressman Sogo. When they found out that
that was the case, they did ask Stephanie the General Counsel,
that they would like that gentleman's information, and they was
told to them.

Speaker 9 (01:02:58):
That they were going to follow up with them.

Speaker 17 (01:03:01):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Me, I'm b thank you.

Speaker 22 (01:03:07):
Representative Jones on this, what do you think the general
public needs to know? Because most of us will never
see this space, we will never enter this place.

Speaker 9 (01:03:15):
What do you think we need to know?

Speaker 22 (01:03:18):
Not just about the conditions there and how the people
are being held, but what do we need to know
that we can sort of use politically and otherwise to
address this this facility.

Speaker 29 (01:03:34):
Yeah, I feel that at first I need people understand
that this is an actually this is a litmus test, right,
this is a this.

Speaker 9 (01:03:41):
Is an actual litmus test.

Speaker 29 (01:03:42):
I mean because they have already whistleblowed what they want
to happen. They want every Republican state to build what's
happening in Flora.

Speaker 9 (01:03:50):
And I'm gonna be very honest with people, and I
hope people are listening that this is not just for
his fans.

Speaker 29 (01:03:57):
Just know that there we have Haitian migrants, we have
Jamaican migrants who are black, who I can guarantee you
that this is not where they're going to stop. They're
trying to test and see how far they can go.
And so the public, what I want them to understand
is that.

Speaker 9 (01:04:12):
This is not one of those things where we say
we need to sit back and not say anything.

Speaker 29 (01:04:16):
Oh hell no, that is not actually how we need
to roll. Because the saying that I've heard Roland say before,
and I hear people say all the time, when they
come for one, they come for all. This is that
incitant to what we're talking about right now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Thank you, Raven, Yeah, I.

Speaker 23 (01:04:35):
Mean, thank you so much for illuminating these truths and
for your eyewitness account. I think my question is really
about what you named in terms of being hurricane season, right,
My mind kind of goes to Hurricane Milton and the
twenty eight thousand incarcerated people who are held in jails
and prisons in these mandatory evacuation zones and essentially left
to die. So can you speak to us a little
bit more about your sense of what happens if there's

(01:04:58):
a hurricane right at this in term.

Speaker 9 (01:05:00):
Because that's a very good that's a very good question.

Speaker 29 (01:05:03):
And just so you all know that where this is located,
I'm gonna walk you all through briefly.

Speaker 9 (01:05:08):
You have this site that is in the middle of
the Everglades that was owned by Miami Dade County.

Speaker 29 (01:05:14):
Because this was deemed as an emergency, it gave the
governor the power to be able to basically seize that
property from Miami Dade County.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
This property.

Speaker 29 (01:05:25):
About about fifteen twenty years ago, Miami Dade County was
going to build a facility on this site.

Speaker 9 (01:05:32):
Environmentalist told Miami.

Speaker 29 (01:05:34):
Dade County that it was not a good idea and
it was not environmentally safe to be able to do it.
Plus it was built on trial. They were building on
tribal land. Now what you see is not thirty miles
each way, is how far land is. So if a
hurricane was to come, they have over a thousand inmates

(01:05:56):
a detainees.

Speaker 9 (01:05:58):
That's in this internment camp.

Speaker 29 (01:06:00):
And they would have to be able to figure out
how to get to evacuate them. The question was asked
while we were there what is you all's evacuation plan?
They said that the evacuation plan that they have is
the same evacuation plan that they would be that they
would use if an emergency was called. But the question is,
we've never had a center like this, There's never been

(01:06:21):
a detention center like this, So they don't know what
they will do if that would happen. By mind you,
Currently right now we have a tropical depression that.

Speaker 9 (01:06:29):
Is that is on the west coast of Florida, that
has a.

Speaker 29 (01:06:31):
Thirty percent chance of formation that's doing what is about
the head directly for the direction of where the internment
camp is at.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
And so what's next for Flatland? Go Go ahead, go ahead, Brod.

Speaker 9 (01:06:47):
Here's what I had said.

Speaker 29 (01:06:48):
That the emergency money, the emergency dollars that the state
of Flora is using on this they calling it and
saying that it can be reimbursed from FEMA. But FEMA
has already made it clear that what this would all
under that the State of Florida does not qualify for it.
So here's the only thing that can happen, Roland. We're
gonna go back into committee week until October this is

(01:07:10):
and so by the time October six happens. We don't
know what will happen with this site, but.

Speaker 9 (01:07:14):
Here's what I do know.

Speaker 29 (01:07:15):
They are preparing to open up another one in Jacksonville,
which is supposed to be the permanent site. The question
is is the legislature going to give our government of
Santas the money to be able to do it?

Speaker 9 (01:07:28):
Why? Because they've already spent the emergency money that was
that he will have been our lotted to him.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
All right, then, Representative Sevin Jones, I certainly appreciate it,
Thank you so very.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Much, and keep up the fight. Yes, sir, all right,
appreciate it.

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Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Well Supreme Courts allowed Donald Trump to dismantle.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
The Department of Education.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
They overturned a injunction from a lower Court allowing him
to fire thousands of Department of Education workers. Of course,
they're being sued by state governments as a result of
of this, some six point eight billion hours in funding.
And it's really Supreme Court loud as man to do
whatever he wants to do. This is what a lot
of people feared with the Supreme Court weighed in on

(01:10:11):
these nationwide injunctions Neombi, this is what we're now faced with.
And so we're seeing this one by one, how Stolus's
loudness man do what the hell he wants to do.

Speaker 22 (01:10:23):
I mean, we talked about this before in here Roland
and me when Ellie Listic was here, when I was
last here. And what they're doing is essentially punting on
the substance and saying whether this is right on a
procedural ground, and I think, of course, on procedural grounds
this is wrong.

Speaker 9 (01:10:41):
And it's always telling the fact.

Speaker 22 (01:10:43):
That when they do these sort of emergency or shadow
kind of rulings, that they don't have to sort of
publicly proclaim what they voted for and what their rationality is.
But I think the descents have been speaking volumes about
this because what they're doing is essentially setting the stage
so that there will be no additional sort of sharing

(01:11:06):
of power to come forward. I mean, I think we
always assume there will always be another election, and that
next election can undo the damage that has caused here.

Speaker 9 (01:11:15):
But Donald Trump told you in twenty twenty four when he.

Speaker 22 (01:11:19):
Was running, we might not have to do any elections again,
and I think he sincerely means that, and it seems,
at least for the time being, this Supreme Court is
allowing him to amass the most power he can so
that he can follow through on those kinds of promises.
Now that also means that their potential potentially hastening their
own demise.

Speaker 9 (01:11:39):
As an institution.

Speaker 22 (01:11:41):
But I think for now, at least, it seems like
the majority is very clear that they think of this
as an imperial president and they're giving him every opportunity
in every tool to be that. And that's what a
state of desire was, and they're following through on it.
And it's you know, us essentially right, the people who
have to live with this and the fallout of.

Speaker 18 (01:12:04):
All of this.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Raven.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
We're constantly trying to explain to people that elections have consequences.
Trump was able to appoint three Supreme Court justices because frankly,
a lot of people didn't like Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 9 (01:12:20):
That's right, Roland.

Speaker 6 (01:12:21):
I mean, what we're seeing is a complete, complete obfuscation
of checks and balances. There's a maga majority in the
Supreme Court and they are doing his bidding.

Speaker 23 (01:12:29):
That's not how it's supposed to work, but that's how
it's unfolding now as it pertains the Department of Education.
They told us they were going to dismantle it. I
cannot seing this from the mountaintops enough. They literally wrote
it out in Project twenty twenty five, and I feel
like that fell out of the news cycle, but I'm
gonna bring it back in because we need to continually
talk about it. There's a Project twenty twenty five tracker

(01:12:49):
online right now that shows at about forty six percent
of the things they said they were going to do
in Project twenty twenty five. But Trump's wore up and
down that he wasn't affiliated with they've done and we're
only six months into his pre right. So I really
think that's important to underline they told us they were
going to do this. It's like villain one on one
behavior in a corny superhero movie where the villain has
a superhero tied up and they tell them exactly what

(01:13:11):
they're going to do. We know what the playboocus is
unfolding right in front of us, and we have a
responsibility to continue to amplify the ways that Trump and
his cronies are continually betraying their constituents and everything that's
good and whole and democratic about this country. I mean,
this isn't the first time that we've seen him just
absolutely defy defy order orders. This is in the first
time we've seen him absolutely defy protections like due process.

(01:13:35):
I mean when kill mar Brego Garcia was deported without
due process and the courts told him to bring him back,
he threw up his hands and he was like, we're
not going to do that, right. So, I think it's
really evident that Trump believes that he's above the law.
He's absolutely using his positionality, and we need to continue
to use our apparatuss and the power that we have
to make that clear to the folks who follow us.

Speaker 21 (01:13:57):
Oh Mcondoll, this is going to be another FAFO moment
for many people throughout the United States. As relates to
the Department of education, because not only do we have
the real issues relating to what's going to be happening
in our cad to twelve institutions as relates to lack
of funding, lack of power professionals that are going to
be in classrooms to help, lack of occupational therapists to

(01:14:19):
help students with various disabilities now school lunches and the like.
But there's also the college side of it as well,
and what they're doing as it relates to getting rid
of things like the forget the loan forgiveness programs, so
they're getting people as it relates to how they repaid
their college loans right including possibly garnishing people's wages if
they get behind. And then also with the job cuts

(01:14:42):
that are happening across the country, they're making it more
difficult for people to be able to actually apply to
go to college. And then they're also messing with the powergrams.
So from kindergarten through the university level, this dismantling is
going to affect every community, and we just have to
be mindful of the fact that we are dealing with
all three banches of government working in tandem.

Speaker 17 (01:15:03):
To destroy this country. For those who are not.

Speaker 21 (01:15:06):
At the wealthiest levels of this society. That is what's happening,
from the Congress and the Senate giving Trump everything that
he wants, to the Supreme Court giving Trump everything that
he wants to Trump running rust shot across the entire
country because he wants to be king. This is where
we are in society, and the sooner more of us
realize that, the sooner we can actually organize a stronger.

Speaker 17 (01:15:25):
Resistance to it before it's too late.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Indeed, indeed, all right, folks, quick break, we come back.
We'll talk about Saint Augustin's University. More drama at that
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Among other things, he played a major role in creating
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and yet today he is hardly a household name.

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Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
Well folks, New York Mayor Eric Adams not too happy
that former Governor Andrew Cuomo is staying in the mayoral race.
I remember those a live talk that Cuomo was going
to drop out after he lost in the primary to Zoron,
Mom Donnie, Well, guess what, he was still on the
ticket on another group's line, and so he had today

(01:19:14):
made official that I ain't going nowhere. Let's just say
Eric Adams is not taking it so well, saying that he.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Went against his word about dropping out.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
A lot of people want Quoma to drop out slid
if I support around Adams to stop Mam Donnie. I
think all of this is absolutely hilarious, Raven, because like, really,
y'all scared of that man so much.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
And here's the deal. They're trying to all socialism as communists.
He just actually ran a better campaign.

Speaker 6 (01:19:48):
That's right. Yeah, I mean I couldn't agree more. And
I think rolling your spot on.

Speaker 23 (01:19:53):
We have a huge problem in the Democratic Party of
people not knowing when to sit it down let someone
else step into leadership that is feeling more resonant with
constituents in this moment.

Speaker 6 (01:20:04):
That is a huge problem.

Speaker 23 (01:20:05):
It's why we had three members of Congress Democratic members
of Congress pass away while in office.

Speaker 6 (01:20:11):
Open your hand and let it go.

Speaker 23 (01:20:14):
I think in this moment, you know I'm really thinking
about other like my friends who are running for office, right,
Dejah Fox, who's running in the sixth districts here in Illinois.
I'm thinking of Isaiah Martin, Like it is so so
paramount that the space to be created for new leadership,
new voices, and certainly when the folks who are incumbent
have not been serving their constituents and the way that
they should be.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
And I mean binging the ambie that go ahead, go ahead,
you know, I.

Speaker 9 (01:20:41):
Said, just an echo would that.

Speaker 22 (01:20:43):
I think we've seen this so many times where we
have these legacy leaders.

Speaker 9 (01:20:47):
And we know why they're there.

Speaker 22 (01:20:48):
Right, Seniority is how the body works, or typically works
in many cases, whether in the state or federal level.
But these folks stay and stay and stay in the
longer see that they stay, the more out of touch
that they get, and not on every issue and not
on everything. And it's not to suggest that there is
nothing to offer here, but clearly, in the case of
New York, right, not only did Mom Donnie run a

(01:21:11):
better campaign, but he was speaking to New Yorkers about
the things that actually matter to them.

Speaker 5 (01:21:16):
They don't want just to fight against raps. People need
some way to live people are.

Speaker 22 (01:21:20):
Being displaced all around that city, and he actually had
a message that people.

Speaker 9 (01:21:25):
Want to hear.

Speaker 5 (01:21:25):
So, whether you can call him a socialist or not,
that's not a dirty word. We treated like it is.

Speaker 16 (01:21:29):
It's not.

Speaker 5 (01:21:30):
What he's saying is what the people of New York
want to hear right now.

Speaker 22 (01:21:34):
And all that Adams and Cobo care about is power,
and so they're going to probably end up splitting the vote.
And that's why Eric Adams is upset, not because he
thinks it's time for him to step aside or he
has a better message.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Well I just I mean, I guess for me, I
just sort of laugh at all of this and I
see the people being really upset and all sort of stuff.
Here's a perfect example. This was this was a video
first of let's do this here.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Okay, so give me one second, so Quota, I'm gonna
play a couple of videos, So give me one second.
So Quoto dropped a video explaining why he was staying
in the race. And so let me go ahead and
just play this right now and get your thoughts on it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
Here we go.

Speaker 31 (01:22:22):
Hello, I'm Andrew, And unless you've been living under a rock,
you probably know that the Democratic primary did.

Speaker 9 (01:22:29):
Not go the way I had hoped to.

Speaker 31 (01:22:32):
The four hundred and forty thousand New Yorkers who voted
for me a sincere thank you, Thank you for believing
in me and my agenda and in my experience, and
I am truly sorry that I let you down. But
as my grandfather used to say, when you get knocked down.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Learn the lesson and pick yourself back up and get
in the game.

Speaker 31 (01:22:52):
And that is what I'm going to do. The fight
to save our city isn't over. Only thirteen percent of
New Yorkers voted in the jew primary. The general election
is in November, and I am in it to win it.

Speaker 25 (01:23:06):
My opponent, mister.

Speaker 31 (01:23:07):
Mandani, offers slick slogans but no real solutions. We need
a city with lower rent, safer streets, where buying your
first home is once again possible, where childcare won't bankrupt you.
That's the New York city we know. That's the one
that is still possible. You haven't given up on it,

(01:23:29):
and you deserve a mayor with the experience and ideas
to make it happen again, and the guts to take
on anyone who stands.

Speaker 30 (01:23:37):
In the way.

Speaker 31 (01:23:38):
Every day, I'm going to be hitting the streets, meeting
you where you are, to hear the good and the bad,
problems and solutions, because for the next few months it's
my responsibility to earn your vote.

Speaker 25 (01:23:53):
So let's do this.

Speaker 12 (01:23:54):
I'll see you out there.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
So that was a Cuomo laying out the case, and
of course, on primary night had no problem speaking on
this issue as well. So here's what he had to say.

Speaker 32 (01:24:10):
I welcome everyone to this race, and I am as
confident as I have been since three weeks ago on
primary night when we faced Andrew Cuomo then and won
that race by more than twelve points, with the most
votes of any Democratic nominee in New York City primary history.

(01:24:32):
And we did so because of the fact that while
Andrew Cuomo and Eric Adams trip over themselves to make
deals in back rooms with billionaires, we are focused on
fighting for working New Yorkers. I think he's struggling to
come to terms with what Tuesday meant. We spent an

(01:24:55):
entire campaign.

Speaker 9 (01:24:57):
Being told.

Speaker 20 (01:25:00):
That it was.

Speaker 32 (01:25:01):
Inevitable for Andrew Cuomo to become the next mayor, and
he believed that himself, and what we saw was New
Yorker's hunger for a new kind of politics, politics focused
on working people, a politics were far more New Yorkers

(01:25:22):
than before could see themselves in it, in those same policies.
And I understand that it is difficult for the former
governor to come to terms with that because it is
a repudiation of the politics that he has practiced, that
he has known for so many years. And it is
that same politics that we are turning the page on.

(01:25:42):
So welcome everyone.

Speaker 20 (01:25:48):
I don't get.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Many people who are man of set, but here's.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
The piece, and I keep going back to this, Raven.
I constantly go back to this. I constly go back
to this.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Voters vote.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
You can stand here and say I'm the best. So
man Donnie doesn't get specifics, but they actually voted. They voted,
And I think all the people who are attacking him,
they're calling him anti Semitic, anti Israel, Oh my god,
he's a socialist, he's a communist. They can throw all

(01:26:30):
those phrases out, but they still have to get over
the hump the people voted. You have to now ask
why did more of them vote for him than Cuomo
and the other candidates.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
That's what you got to be focusing on. If you're
animal sat quota for the general.

Speaker 23 (01:26:50):
That's right, That's absolutely right. I mean, the people have
spoken and they want Mom Donnie. You know, I think
it's really important to underline here too that a lot
of the the accusations of anti Semitism are tied to
his critiques of Israel. I know this has been said
ad nauseum, but as a black and Jewish person feels
very strongly about this, I feel the need to reiterate
it is not anti semitic to critique Israel. Okay, If

(01:27:14):
that's the case, then a lot of Jewish people are
anti Semitic, and I know the folks that I'm in
coalition with that I'm thinking through with that I'm imagining
freedom with as it pertains to what's happening in the
Middle East, are not and I think a lot of
those claims are unfair, frankly, and that anti Semitism has
become this tool, this weapon that gets wielded so casually

(01:27:34):
to the point that it's become emptied out of meaning,
which is actually very dangerous because anti Semitism is a
real issue. It is a real struggle that is fundamentally intersectional,
which I say to you as I said here as
a black, Jewish and queer woman, right, who is impacted
by all these modalities of subjugation simultaneously. So I think
that's important to name first and foremost. And I think
what's so attractive about him as a candidate to constituents

(01:27:55):
in New York is that what he's really offering us
is a working class consciousness, right.

Speaker 6 (01:28:00):
That is the invitation, that is the opening, and that
is what we have so.

Speaker 23 (01:28:04):
Desperately needed in the Democratic Party for a minute now,
because unfortunately, there are a lot of folks who are Democratic,
who are in these positions of power, who are bending
the knee to billionaire interests.

Speaker 6 (01:28:13):
We're not immune to that.

Speaker 23 (01:28:14):
We talk about it a lot as it pertains to
the right, but that doesn't mean it's exclusive to them
by any means.

Speaker 6 (01:28:19):
And so someone who stands.

Speaker 23 (01:28:20):
On business, who is fighting for the working class, who
is actively and sincerely building multi racial coalitions, that's not
only attractive to voters, it's more important in paramount than
ever before.

Speaker 6 (01:28:32):
As we are experiencing the rise of fascism in this country.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Well, and it's just laughable when you look at when
you look at mag and their responses to all of
this oh my congo because.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Just playing into his hands.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
And also this idea that somehow he represents all democrats
in America has stupid.

Speaker 9 (01:28:59):
Yeah, it really is, and that's what they do well.

Speaker 21 (01:29:02):
But that's repeat that is what Republicans do well their
marketing strategy.

Speaker 17 (01:29:07):
They stay on message, They stay on message, and they
stick with it.

Speaker 21 (01:29:11):
A lot of the name calling we see as relates
to I'm done, and we saw with Obama because he
was Barack Hussein Obama and you know, run down the list.
They already have the narratives, you know, going out there
about him. What I also find interesting is that we
talked about democrats earlier. I've seen democrats slow in New
York and at the national level to come around and
embrace him. Besides the obvious Bernie's mao season, they're like,

(01:29:33):
you know, King Jeffrey said he's looking forward to meeting him,
but other people in New York like Tom Suazi, you know, like, hey,
he's a democratic socialist, but I'm a democratic capitalist, and
you know, and Richie Torres as well, talking about, oh,
I'm ready to coexist with him and fight me too.
So it's like they're not even coalescing around him right now,
and that is that is a real problem. Look, it

(01:29:56):
is obvious that having Eric Adams and Pomo in there
it has potential to splinter a lot of things. But
like Clomo said, there's a lot of people who didn't
come out, and it is now that people have Donnie
has their attention, it can be a little bit different.
The last part I will say is that people go
into all of the socialists talk, and of course he
defines himself as a democratic socialist. But when you hear

(01:30:18):
Clomo talking, he's talking about things that we could call
socialists in that ad affordability, people being able to live
in home in a nice home, be able to afford
daycare sounds a lot like mom Donnie's policies to me.

Speaker 17 (01:30:30):
So these guys want to just argue.

Speaker 21 (01:30:31):
Over terminology, but if they don't embrace some of the
policies that he's talking about, I can't see how either
of them are going to beat him.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Also, I think stuff like this helps him as well.
Listen to this representative.

Speaker 12 (01:30:50):
We got them all tell you, so this is.

Speaker 30 (01:31:00):
The city or right to the whole bride of yoursel
said he would arrest you if you voted.

Speaker 25 (01:31:08):
In New York City he was mayor, and that's something
he made.

Speaker 12 (01:31:11):
A seriously concerned that people was off. No, no, I'm
not concerned about that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
I'll get.

Speaker 12 (01:31:19):
Look, there's a there's enough craziness in the world, but
I guess it never ends.

Speaker 13 (01:31:23):
I mean, you have this is a falling uh and
it's uh, you know, it's it's it's silly in many
ways because it's it's just not serious. But what is
serious is the question I was asked before, you know,
after October seventh, people said the Palestinians have the state,
imas stated and guys, and I look what they did
with it.

Speaker 12 (01:31:40):
They didn't build it up.

Speaker 25 (01:31:41):
They built down into bunkers, into terror tunnels, after which
they massacred our people, raped our women, beheaded our men,
invaded our our cities and our towns and our kibe
and did horrendous, horrendous massacres the kind of which we
didn't see such.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
I see listen, I see him and saying I'm gonna
give it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
I'm gonna give as good as I can get, like
you'll give it to me, I'm gonna give it back.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
That's all I said.

Speaker 22 (01:32:15):
No, But I mean, I think this is again what
people are so turned off by and why a mom
Donnie comes to the fore and is attracted because people
are sick of this sort of.

Speaker 9 (01:32:30):
Lack of nuance.

Speaker 22 (01:32:32):
Because while we can talk about October seventh and that
it was horrendous, the response to October seven has been,
I think, by most charitable definitions, outsized and inhumane, downright
and humane. And so I think this sort of sitting
here as if this is about the state of Israel

(01:32:55):
and about Jewish people is insincere, and it skirts the
larger issue around Palaciti and people's humanity that has been
at the core of this this whole time. And while
some communities might take heart in the folks sitting around
that table, the crying anti simulitism, remember these are the

(01:33:16):
same people that cozied up to folks a few years
ago and Charlesville who said.

Speaker 9 (01:33:21):
Jews will not replace us.

Speaker 22 (01:33:23):
These are the very same people who you think are
going to defend Jewish people. This has been a political tool,
both by Benjamin at Yahoo and by this administration. Unfortunately,
I think again the Democrats didn't have a strong enough
message here and that this part of the reason why
they lost.

Speaker 9 (01:33:43):
And yet you saw Donald Trump and those folks.

Speaker 22 (01:33:46):
Around that table mentioning nothing about the human rights of
the Palastinian people, sort of mentioning nothing about the fact
that you have children starving, that you've had aid workers
and journalists who are just trying to provide as system
and covered this tragedy we murdered. Nothing mentioned there. So
this is I think at part for the course and

(01:34:08):
why this politics is probably going to inspire more of
folks like Mom, Donnie and others around this country because
people are sick of this.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
Well they are, and so we'll see what happens. So
quote Uno saying he's staying in the Adams you, how
dare you?

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
Adams is sc scaredy is gonna lose, as you said.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
Now may they think that those two are gonna split
the vote, and then we'll see what happens. So all right, folks,
quick break, we come back. Let's talk about the drama
at Sende. Gusta's University.

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Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
Well, Folks in North Carolina HBCUs Saint Augustine University, their
latest attempt to keep his accreditation has failed and the
Appeals Committee uphill the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools
Commission on College's decision to remove its status as an
accredited university.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
But despite this decision, Saint Augustin's.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
University said the classes will begin in the fall and
it will keep its accredited status. And news release issued Monday,
Saint Augustin's University announced its intention to file a court
injunction to prevent any interruptions that could hinder the completion
of the greed for new and returning students, thereby ensuring
the university's accreditation. As of now, the university's website does

(01:37:07):
not listening academic calendar. For wind fall twenty twenty five,
classes will begin.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
We reached out to the.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
University, but our email went unanswered, Like it has for
the last several months. We've been trying to get the
interim president, Marcus Burgess and the Board of Trustees Chair
Brian Boulware on this show for months. They've declined every
single one of our invitations. Let's see here, Neian, I
want to start with you. Look, you've been a university professor.

(01:37:33):
Let's just be real clear. No accreditation means students can't
get financial aid.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
That's what it boils down to.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
We know what happened o the universities, and the bottom
line is this university has had massive financial problems and
this board can try to run away from it, but
it's happened on their watch, and people frankly get sick
and tired of being sick and tired, and this board
is simply on they cannot do the job. And so

(01:38:01):
it's no shock that the credation got denied because of
the sharing competence of leadership that's destroyed this university.

Speaker 22 (01:38:10):
And it's so unfortunate, right, I mean, this university has
been around since eighteen sixty seven. I have family members
who've gone to this university.

Speaker 9 (01:38:17):
But not only can.

Speaker 22 (01:38:18):
Sudents not get their financial aid, we have to think
about what it also means to go to an undccredited university,
because it's not just about the financial soundness of the institution.
It's also about the academic quality of the institution, about
the types of infrastructure they have, like labs and libraries,
all of that kind of stuff that goes into making

(01:38:39):
a full university.

Speaker 5 (01:38:40):
The qualifications of the faculty even are part.

Speaker 18 (01:38:43):
Of this.

Speaker 9 (01:38:45):
Appraisal.

Speaker 22 (01:38:46):
And so, you know, financial mismanagement doesn't always look like theft,
and I think that's something that many people don't always understand.

Speaker 9 (01:38:57):
And this university.

Speaker 22 (01:38:59):
Unfortunately has seen a tragic dip in enrollment that is
devastated as finances.

Speaker 9 (01:39:05):
Most of its students are on some form of financial aid.

Speaker 22 (01:39:08):
So if this accreditation goes away, this institution will falter
and will go the way of a Saint Paul's and
so many other institutions that we've seen that have unfortunately
no longer with us, and that will be a tragic end.

Speaker 5 (01:39:21):
But I think there also has to be, and you
mentioned this a moment ago, Roland.

Speaker 22 (01:39:25):
A real reckoning with how these institutions run, and sometimes
they can be very incestuous, and that's not always a
good thing. And it's not to suggest that they don't
have professionals who come out of this place that are
worthwhile or anything like that. I'm not suggesting that. But
sometimes what you do need is people who have expertise
from outside who can actually bring that to the institution

(01:39:47):
to figure out ways that you can modernize. I mean,
I think some of their curriculum could potentially be interesting.
They're one of the only schools with film into production
as a major, and I think that could be something
to capitalize on, especially the film industry in the state
of North Carolina, like in Wilmington. But you also have
to be really innovated if you want to continue to
draw students to that campus. Unfortunately, the resources are going

(01:40:11):
to be and have been a perpetual issue for this
institution like so many others. But I think, you know,
like a lot of institutions, they have been slow to
adopt online learning. They've been slow to adopt certificates and
other kinds of income generating programs that can really be
the difference maker in those kinds of institutions.

Speaker 9 (01:40:31):
Because when you look at peer.

Speaker 22 (01:40:32):
Institutions like North Carolina A and T, when's the Salem State,
you know, North Carolina Central, They're thriving. So it's not
just about being an HBCU. There's something else going on.
And I think, say aug needs to do some real inventory.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
Well it's gonna be a little hard to do inventory
when you ain't gonna have a university on the congo.
And let's be real clear, if you are a college professor,
I'm not trying to go somewhere what I can't get.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
Yeah, get us.

Speaker 17 (01:41:02):
That's very real.

Speaker 21 (01:41:04):
You know, I'm sitting here thinking that you know, who
would do that, you know, on my campus up at
American University. Like if we went through any of these
particular issues, professors will be trying to get out.

Speaker 17 (01:41:13):
The door as quickly as possible, and students will be
trying to find new spaces as quickly as possible.

Speaker 21 (01:41:18):
And you know, my heart definitely goes out to what
the professors are going to be dealing with, but the
students first and foremost, because it also ties back to
our last section. We're talking about the Department of Education,
because it's already it's already hard enough for so many
of us to get into college, and as Neanmbeople's saying,
many who are there are already on financial.

Speaker 17 (01:41:36):
Aid, that's going to be harder to get.

Speaker 21 (01:41:39):
And the Department of Education is not going to give
the suit this university any support in any way, shape
or form. So I honestly cannot see how it's going
to open its doors. It hasn't even announced return dates
for students. Like, what are parents supposed to do? If
I was a parent, I wouldn't I wouldn't be sending
my child there in any way, shape or form. I
wouldn't be I wouldn't be sending them back if they

(01:41:59):
were upper class.

Speaker 17 (01:42:00):
You just can't risk it.

Speaker 21 (01:42:01):
I mean, I think a lot of students would be
safe for off dealing with a community college within their
neighborhoods until they figure out where they're going to go
later with the whole transcripts in their life, because to
send them back there to a place where their courses
and degrees could absolutely be worthless.

Speaker 17 (01:42:17):
And this day and age, who's already harder to get
that education, I can't see it happening. I can't.

Speaker 21 (01:42:21):
And the fact that they won't come and answer questions
because they know they're going to get the real rail
from you, Roland, it also says a lot to who
they are.

Speaker 1 (01:42:31):
Oh absolutely, and Raven, Let's be perfectly clear. One of
the biggest problems that they have is this board does
not have anyone over them, so it's a self dealing board.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
You can't get rid of.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
The board and so and again for board member to
leave or for a new chair to be voted upon
with the existing board, does that anybody with half a
brain can sit here and say this board is incapable
of leading this university out of the abyss. Okay, the
lawsuits being filed against them, the different DECI I mean,

(01:43:04):
just the back and forth.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
I mean, this isn't this isn't utter shame and it's
a sham and we've.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
Got to call it for what it is, and they
can be all pissed off if they want to, but
this universe does not have to be in the condition
that it is in.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
This is neglect by individuals who are in leadership. This
is not all outside force.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
Has happened because COVID money saved a lot of black
black a lot of HBCUs, put them on a good footing.
They were able to build from that. How the hell
do you go from that to losing accreditation? About to
shut your doors. I'm sorry that there's enoughing these people
can say that makes any sense to me whatsoever, And

(01:43:48):
yet they don't want to be truthful. They don't want
to actually come out and talk about it because they
don't want to have to give answers that could be scrutinized, verified,
and fat shipped.

Speaker 23 (01:44:03):
I think you're absolutely right, Roland, and as you've named
and my co panelists have named, it's a shame.

Speaker 6 (01:44:07):
It's just a shame. I mean, these.

Speaker 23 (01:44:09):
Spaces HBCUs are sacred and have to be protected both
from bad actors within and bad actors outside of these institutions,
and unfortunately, this is a bad actors within type of situation.
I mean, I think something I've also been contemplating a
lot as it pertains to this particular unfolding is the
fact that the university is sitting on one hundred and
ninety eight million dollars worth of land, And so if

(01:44:32):
folks are not enrolling into this institution, if if they're
not able to continue to have this institution in its
current iteration because of these accreditation issues. I'm also thinking
about just the black economic power right, Like, what would
it mean if this land was sold and now isn't
serving black community, isn't circulating in black community. The tremendous
harm of that is hard to quantify. And first and foremost,

(01:44:57):
as my co panelists have also named, I think just
thinking about the students here. You know, I was that
college student that was on pelgrants and working two and
three jobs to get through college, and really it was
assistance and programs and scholarships that made it possible for
me to get my degree. I cannot imagine being a
year into college, or two years into college, or three
years into college, or right at the tail end and

(01:45:18):
having that dream that I've been working so hard for
ripped away from me.

Speaker 6 (01:45:22):
So my heart really goes out to the students.

Speaker 23 (01:45:23):
It wasn't so long ago that I was also in
college myself, and I really just hope that at the
very least those students are able to get the qualifications
and the degrees that they've worked so hard for.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
Well, some people believe that there is sabotaged going on
in order to get their hands on that very land,
So we'll see what happens next real quick. A black
family from Alabama is to get judicial intervention to compel
the Homewood, Alabama Police Department to release the bodycam footage
of a fatal shooting of eighteen year old Jabari Peoples.

Speaker 2 (01:45:57):
He was shot on June twenty third.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
According to reports, a uniform police officer approached Jabari's vehicle
and said he smelled marijuana. The officer ordered Jabari and
his girlfriend to exit the car. I thought his claim
a handgun was visible in the driver's side door and
that Jabbari allegedly reached for the gun. However, Jabari's girlfriend
disputes this account. The People's family maintains that Jabari was

(01:46:21):
unarmed and is calling for complete transparency in this investigation.
The court hearing is schedule for August fourth.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
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Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
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