SCOTUS Birthright Ruling, Crockett vs MAGA, Moral Monday preview, Trump disrespects African reporter

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Talk Today's Friday, June twenty seven, twenty twenty five, coming
up of Rolling Mark Do Unfiltered streaming live on the
black Start Network. Huge day at the Supreme Court, major
decision regarding birthright, citizenship and injunctions will break it all down.
It is absolutely crazy what the right wing is doing. Also,
Donald Trump talks to two African leaders and pretty much

(00:43):
just insults black people. Yeah, we're gonna talk about that
and show you exactly what happened there. We continue to
see what Ice is doing, how they are mistreating people
all across this country, and the right wing does not
care because for them, Donald Trump is doing exactly what
they all want to be done. And also we lose

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one of our greatest one of the co finals of
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I'm rolling Mark Unfiltered on the Blackstone Network.

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Speaker 1 (02:15):
Two. Major Supreme Court ruling is reshaping the legal landscape
on reproductive rights and immigration, and millions of Americans could
feel the effects immediately. In a sixty three decision, the
Court ruled the states can block Plan Parenthood from receiving
Medicaid funds, and not just for abortion, but for central
services like birth control, cancer screenings, and STD testing. And
the separate decision, the Justice decided with Donald Trump pushed

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to limit nationwide injunctions, clearing the way for the administration
to move forward with the plan to end birth rights citizenship.
A lot was said today. We're going to play you
what Trump and the ag Pam Bondi said. We want
to go right to our guests on this because again, folks,
it is unbelievable. David and Hewett, the President DEECUT, Director
of Laws Committee, Civil Rights, under Law Drugs, right now,

(03:00):
Samuel Spider, the Associate Director and council from the Legal
Defense Fund, let they have both of you, Damon Well
walk us through here. People need to understand here. First
of all, the Supreme Court did not overturn the citizenship issue,
but explain people exactly what did they do well.

Speaker 6 (03:18):
The Court halfway punted but also did some damage today,
and the story the damage will only be told in
the coming months and years. As of the cases proceed
The Supreme Court did not actually decide whether birthright citizenship
should be preserved punted on that issue. The Court also
didn't dig deeply into the Fourteenth Amendment in the substance

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of weight, which many of us feared, because I think
that's a big political project on the right to start
undoing things like ecual.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Protection and what have you.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
But what the Court did was it essentially did a
process damage, just said, look, you can't actually do these
nationwide injunctions. And that's a really big problem because you know,
especially like telling folks, well, if you experienced a harm,
it's the only individual to you, and a case that

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wins big for one person, this thing essentially doesn't matter
for the next person who's in executive same circumstance under
the exact same government policy. That is actually bankers in
this contrary to interest of justice.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Well, Samuel, the right had no problem with nationwide injunctions
when Biden was presidented, especially related to student loans and
other issues. In fact, Texas Trade General Ken Paxton loved
going to a particular judge, right wing judge in Texas
to get those nationwide injunctions.

Speaker 7 (04:41):
Yeah, very very I would say ironic, but perhaps not ironic.

Speaker 8 (04:45):
I mean, as Damon said, this is.

Speaker 7 (04:46):
A real blow and it is telling that this is
the case that the Supreme Court decided to put this blow.

Speaker 8 (04:55):
On our legal system.

Speaker 7 (04:56):
And one of the things I really wanted to lift
up is Justice Jackson and wrote a separate descent, just
as sot of Moyer had written the principal dissent. And
what Justice Jackson said is, make no mistake about it.
The Court is dressing this up as sort of a
legalistic legal leafe type issue. But really the effect of
this decision is to say that the executive does not
The judiciary cannot make sure.

Speaker 8 (05:17):
The executive follows the law.

Speaker 7 (05:18):
Because as Damon said, yes, a court can say, with
respect to the parties before it, I'm going to rule
in favor of certain parties. But the court can't then say, okay,
well you're somebody who didn't get to court, you don't
have a lawyer, you don't have the resources to do that.

Speaker 8 (05:32):
We can't tell the executive.

Speaker 7 (05:33):
Branch to follow the law for you, and that is
a tremendous, tremendous departure from basic principles of the rule
of law and really quite dangerous for our democracy.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Also had a particular case Damon that dealt with religious rights,
where they are allowing parents to say, hey, if I
don't want my child listening to LGBTQ story books of
things along those lines, what could be LGBTQ today literally
could be black history tomorrow exactly.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
It's this so called opt out, this whole we believe
manufactured parents' rights movement, mom's for liberty, that type of stuff.
What we're searching for, which is not really a parent,
is what is the limiting principle? Like you said, well,
where does it stop. This is essentially taking private discrimination,

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at least potential private discrimination, and having the government or.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Forcing schools to endorse.

Speaker 6 (06:29):
It, and is actually going to likely either do one
or two things. It will throw school districts and individuals,
schools and classrooms into chaos trying to navigate around people's
private biases, or is going to just water down curriculum period.
So it's going to be you know, test and drill
and kill just whatever's on the you know, the very

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basic curriculum. That's not good for anybody, including the students
whose parents are forcing them to opt out.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I mean it is a perfect example. University of Alabama,
Birmingham had had a private scholarship, probably funded scholarship for
black medical students, and they stopped it because of threats
from the Trump administration, their attacks on DEOT. What we
are seeing is they will apply this stuff to any
number of things. And so if these parents, Samuel are

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using this religious exemption or religious reason, they could slap
that on anything.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (07:24):
I think one of the through lines from the decisions
that we have seen and you mentioned at the beginning
of the decision with respect to access for folks on
Medicaid to be able to go to planned parenthood as
part of the sort of defund planned parenthood movement is
a real sort of picking and choosing about who in
our country is able to have the protections of the law,

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who is able to have legal rights in forest and
who is not.

Speaker 8 (07:51):
And the Supreme Court.

Speaker 7 (07:52):
Has issued these very very series of troubling decisions.

Speaker 9 (07:56):
About who is really protected by.

Speaker 8 (07:59):
The rule of life in our country today.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
That you spoke of, that planned parenthood decision I mean, listen,
they do more than just provide abortion services. We're now
talking about millions of people who don't have access to
health services. You have the closing of It's not like
you know, for the longest I think back in the seventies,
early ages, you had community centers and provided services. Those

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things that long shut down. And so you know what
next these states, especially red states, will be targeting planned parenthood.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Damon.

Speaker 6 (08:34):
Well, look again, the question is what does this all stop.
There's been some success when it comes to the so
called Big Beautiful Bill with our sam and our friends
at loogal To finis Field called the big Billionaire Bonanza,
and it really is that or the kneecap of America
build and some of.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Us call it.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
We have to stop at the past, all these efforts
to erode undermine the viscerray both civil rights and social
safety net. Think think though, roland to going forward with
some of these moves, are going to do the Supreme
Court decisions. Other things happening on Capitol Hill. Certainly what's
happening in the White House. They are actually expanding our coalition.

(09:12):
We know that black communities are canaries in the coal mine.
When we get the cold, Will folks get a cold,
black market gets the flu. People understand that we are
essentially being in the laboratory or being treated like with
the laboratory when it comes to all these changes, all
these erosions of rights. But more and more Americans are
starting to feel it. Women are feeling it. With the

(09:33):
Doves decision overturning Roe v. Wade, this planning paradi piece
is going to hurt people, not just to reproductive rights,
but just basic healthcare. And if rural hospitals start to close,
including in the Appalachia, including in majority white counties in
some of these states, more and more people are going
to start to feel the pain.

Speaker 10 (09:52):
But they're starting to wake up, and so.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
It's going to expand the coalition of people who are
willing to fight back, push back through political voice at
the ballot box.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
And beyond Samuel. Look, we keep telling people elections have consequences.
Republicans hard right, they've got a sixty three majority on
the Supreme Court. And one of the things we see
is how these folks they are attacking Justice Katanji Brown Jackson,
calling her a d higher, all sorts of stuff along
those lines. They don't want any pushback. And what people

(10:24):
have to understand is that this is a court that
clearly says we're gonna let Donald Trump do a hell
of a lot what he wants to do. People have
to recognize that you're moving closer and closer to the
executive branch, snatching tons of power from judicial, from legislative,
and being as close as we've ever had to having

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a king.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (10:48):
And so that's exactly what Justine Jackson said and really
so powerfully explained in her dissent and opinion in the
Birthrate so Citizenship case today. And I think one other
thing that is really important to sort of pick up
on one of the points that Damon was making is
to remember what the history here of the birthright citizenship
clause is. It was understood from time immemorial in England

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and the United States that anyone who was born in
the country was a citizen. And then, in the most
notorious Supreme Court decision of ever, the dread Scott decision,
the Supreme Court held that that did not apply to
enslaved black Americans. And so the birthright Citizenship Clause in
the Fourteenth Amendment corrected that horrific decision and held that

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and mid clear that everyone born in the United States
is a citizen. So it is that magnitude of a
constitutional right that today the Supreme Court has held there
are real limitations on the ability.

Speaker 8 (11:44):
Of district courts to enforce. Yeah, go ahead, Sam, I.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Just want to add in the Crutched decision.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
The money phrase, of course, as we all know, is
that no right negro has no rights which white men
is bound to respect. So when we see these attacks,
as you're talking about, Sam, on a key core bend
right constitutional provisions, you gotta wonder, are they reviving that
mythology that knows you that there are no rights, that

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we have, no rights which are about to be respected.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Uh So it is a dangerous, dangerous path.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
But these folks on the other side know exactly what
they're doing, but we do too.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
All right, then to them, I appreciate it. They keep
up the legal battles.

Speaker 8 (12:29):
Thanks a lot, of course, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Folks are going to go to a break. We come back,
which our parently about this. Here we're talking with them
about a whole lot of other stuff. It is a wild,
wild day. And when I show y'all some of the
crazy craft that was said in the Oval office as
two African leaders stood next to Trump. Y'all ain't gonna
bleed a mess, is what? Until I play it? You're

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watching roller my gun fill to the other Black Sul Network.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
We don't stand up from dedicate now. In spite of
my honorable military service, the Senate will kill my child.

Speaker 11 (13:07):
I want the people that are trying to take this
away from us to put yourself in our seats.

Speaker 12 (13:12):
Congress people, you got free healthcare paid for by the people,
and then you don't want the people to have the same.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Thing you have.

Speaker 10 (13:20):
That is sick and we must challenge it.

Speaker 13 (13:27):
This bill will deny millions of people the healthcare that
they need.

Speaker 14 (13:32):
This is policy violence, and we won't be silent anymore
this week.

Speaker 15 (13:39):
On the other side of change, the mass incarceration Trump
administration is doubling down criminalization and how it is profitable.

Speaker 9 (13:46):
And there's something really, really perverse about.

Speaker 16 (13:48):
Saying that we need to put people in cages in
order for other people.

Speaker 17 (13:52):
To have jobs Like that is not how our economy
should be built.

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Speaker 20 (15:51):
In All right, folks, welcome our pale to the show.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Matt Manning, civil rights attorney, Joining us out of Corpus Christi, Texas.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Michael M.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Hotep hosts the African History Network show Joining Us out
of Detroit. Actually be in Detroit this Sunday for the
NAACP Freedom Fund Dinner, so picking up an award. There
also Eugene Craig's CEO X Factor Media out of Baltimore. Matt,
I'll start with you. Look, this is a right wing court.

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They are lovers of religious liberty. They will side with
these right wing folks as much as they can. That's many.
That's pretty much with that LGBTQ religious right decision is.
But when you look at this whole issue, the right
absolutely wants to get rid of birthright citizenship and in fact,
listen to the crap. Trump said from the White House

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podium today.

Speaker 21 (17:13):
The Supreme Court has delivered a monumental victory for the Constitution,
the separation of powers, and the rule of law in
striking down the excessive use of nationwide injunctions to interfere
with the normal functioning of the executive branch. The Supreme
Court has stopped the presidency itself.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
That's what they've done.

Speaker 21 (17:34):
And really it's been an amazing period of time.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
This last hour.

Speaker 21 (17:42):
There are people elated all over the country. I've seen
such happiness and spirit. Sometimes you don't see that, but
this case is very important. I was elected on a
historic mandate. But in recent months we've seen a handful
of radical left judges effectively try to overrule the rightful
powers of the president to stop the American people from

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getting the policies that they voted for in record numbers.
It was a grave threat to democracy, frankly, and instead
of merely ruling on the immediate cases before them, these
judges have attempted to dictate the law.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
For the entire nation.

Speaker 21 (18:19):
Thanks to this decision, we can now promptly file to
proceed with numerous policies that have been wrongly enjoined on
a nationwide basis. And some of the cases we're talking
about would be ending birthright citizenship, which now comes to
the fore that was meant for the babies of slaves.
It wasn't meant for people trying to scam the system

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and come into the country on a vacation. This was,
in fact, it was the same date, the exact same date,
the end of the Civil War.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
It was meant for the babies of slaves. And it
is so clean and so obvious.

Speaker 10 (18:52):
But this lets us go.

Speaker 21 (18:54):
There and finally win that case because hundreds of thousands
of people are pouring into our country birthright citizenship, and
it wasn't meant for that reason, was meant for the
babies of slaves. So thanks to this decision, we can
now properly file to proceed with these numerous policies and
those that have been wrongly enjoined on a nationwide basis,

(19:16):
including birthright citizenship, ending sanctuary city funding, suspending refugee resettlement,
freezing unnecessary funding, stopping federal taxpayers from paying for transgender surgeries,
and numerous other priorities of the American people.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
All Right, bat thoughts, So.

Speaker 17 (19:39):
I'm going to address the religious liberty thing first and
say I'm actually going to take the opposite tack. You know,
I don't know how we can live in a country
where we talk about not having an establishment clause or
not you know, having the free exercise of religion and
then say that people cannot opt out. I think it
becomes a bigger issue if the Supreme Court and subsequent

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cases says that a public school is now required to
provide a religious class.

Speaker 22 (20:04):
For those who opt out.

Speaker 17 (20:06):
And I understand all the policy arguments on it, but
I also believe very strongly in religious freedom.

Speaker 22 (20:11):
So I don't actually have an issue with that case.
I get where it comes from.

Speaker 17 (20:15):
I think that there are some policy issues that could
cascade out of that, but I think if we're going
to honor the First Amendment, we have to do that.

Speaker 22 (20:22):
So I actually don't have an issue with that decision.

Speaker 17 (20:25):
However, as it relates to the birthright citizenship, I have
a big issue with that one because this Court decides
to be textualists and follow exactly what it says when
it wants, and then it allows the president to have
unprecedented expansion of executive power. But here's the long and
short of it. I lost the case today in Houston.
I lost the case where morally I could not be

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more right. But I lost it because my client lives
in Texas. In the Fifth Circuit, if she lived in Pennsylvania,
she would have been able to bring the claim that
I brought. I specifically asked the court to extend to
her the same ability to bring the claim that she
would have if she lived in a different state that
she does not have because she lives here in Texas.
The reason I tell you that is this, that is

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the real crux of this case and the crux of
this whole issue. We live in a country that is
super federalized. We know what's happening. I'm talking to you.
You're in DC, I'm in Texas, Michael's in Michigan, and
the brother Eugene is in Baltimore. That is not something
that existed in terms of technological ability when this country
was founded. I tell you that to say we have

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a legal fiction that we continue to perpetuate in terms of,
you know, states rights and in terms of you have
a different basket of rights living in one place as
opposed to somewhere else. Nationwide injunctions are kind of an
outcropping of that. The idea that a judge one place
could stop the executive across the board is what the
Supreme Court bought on. But the reason that's stupid is

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because the people who are affected by that same.

Speaker 22 (21:51):
Policy in Maryland or in Michigan or in Texas.

Speaker 17 (21:55):
You know, a judge should be able to make a
competent ruling that affects all of those people, because the
harm to those people is universal.

Speaker 22 (22:02):
So the legal fiction that exists here is the idea that.

Speaker 17 (22:05):
You know, what we all know to be true, that
a judge who's listening to it, who makes a decision
when there's all these people who are similarly situated, does
not apply because it didn't apply in you know, eighteenth
century England.

Speaker 10 (22:16):
Is bogus.

Speaker 22 (22:17):
But that's the legal fiction that we deal with. That's
the legal fiction I deal with every day.

Speaker 17 (22:21):
And I don't know how we resolve that until we
as a country are honest about the fact that we
live in a country where everything is, you know, simultaneously viewed.
We see what happens across the country, across the world
in real time. So it no longer really exists to
say that what happens to a person in Pennsylvania should
be governed by different rights and different rules than what

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happens to a person in Texas.

Speaker 22 (22:42):
And I think that's the fundamental tension that we're seeing here.

Speaker 17 (22:45):
And I don't know how that will be resolved until
our Constitution has an amendment or until we start to
have a more expansive interpretation of the Constitution and the
lawss as they.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Apply, Eugene, very simple, they don't want that to happen.
They want how issues to be desided in the Fifth
Circuit to be the case for the entire nation. That's
what they want, Eugene. If you don't, if you don't
fix that damn mute button, I'm whoop your asss you

(23:17):
know you know you are work. You were worse than
Nola with that damn mute button.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Come on, man, nothing nothing on the homie. But the
thing is this right, that's the thing.

Speaker 23 (23:28):
But I think also they don't understand, Okay, junction aren't
gonna be nationwide?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Are they gonna be in the district? Now you're gonna.

Speaker 20 (23:43):
Action.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
And then on top of that, and that's time you
have a different.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Uh actually held, Gen, I'm gonna stop you that for
some reason, your audio is actually distorted. So y'all, y'all
work with Eugene on that. Michael.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
If we're gonna sit there and talk about the birth
rights listenship, that means that Baron Trump's gotta go because
he's an anchor baby.

Speaker 24 (24:08):
Yeah, you know they are when the same rules applied
to them, they never wanted to apply to them.

Speaker 10 (24:17):
Okay, so this is what we deal with.

Speaker 24 (24:19):
Now, let's take a step back. This is all straight
out of Project twenty twenty five. This is what we
were warning people about Rowland, you and nine and others
here on the show. This is what we were warning
people about because this all deals with the fear the
browning of America. This deals with the fear that by
the year twenty forty three, white people will no longer
be the majority population in this country. The twenty twenty

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Census scared a lot of these white Republicans when the
percentage population of white people in this country dropped below
sixty percent for the first time since seventeen ninety when
the first census was taken it dropped the fifty seven percent.
Then you have Donald Trump saying the fourteenth Amendment was
for the babies slaves. Yes, it was the brainchild represented

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represented Thaddeus Stevens out of Pennsylvania, one of the radical Republicans. Yes,
it built upon the Civil Rights Act of eighteen sixty six,
and yes, it was primarily Section one primarily for former slaves.
But it was for former slaves, not just babies of slaves.
I don't know what this fool is talking about. And

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then this also was came about eighteen sixty eight. It
was ratified July ninth, eighteen sixty eight, when Louisiana and
South Carolina ratified the fourteenth Amendment to the US Constitution.
One of the reasons why it came about was because
of the Dress Got decision March sixth, eighteen fifty seven.
As your guests just talked about, were Chief Justice Tanny,

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who wrote the majority decision, said that negroes had no
rights that white people were bound to respect. They said
they were not citizens. But also just so people understand,
the US Supreme Court in that case also ruled that
the Missouri.

Speaker 10 (26:03):
Compromise of eighteen twenty was unconstitutional.

Speaker 24 (26:07):
Because it robbed slave owners of the Fifth Amendment right
to do process, and that nullified.

Speaker 10 (26:14):
Dred Scott, whose real name was Sam Blow.

Speaker 24 (26:17):
It nullified part of his argument because he was taken
into Illinois, which was a free state, and he went
into Wisconsin, which was a territory. And the reason why
Wisconsin was free territory was because of the Missouri Compromise
of eighteen twenty. So this gets into a lot of law,
gets into a lot of history, gets into the US Constitution.

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But this is what we warned people was going to happen. Okay,
we're seeing the unfold now, so we have to continue
to fight. Lawsuits a being filed right now. Maryland and
New Hampshire have announced that filing class action lawsuits, as
reported by the New York Times against this.

Speaker 10 (26:53):
So this fight continues.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Hopefully we got everything strighted with Eugene. Back Eugene, can
you hear me? Oh wait, hold on, backup box. We're
seeing to be better.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
All right, Dan, now you can make your points.

Speaker 23 (27:12):
I was just going to say that, you know, they
should be prepared for everything that comes with class action
losses across the country, flying all over this country. And
then on top of that, when yeah, you end the
president Harrison twenty twenty eight nine.

Speaker 24 (27:25):
Uh.

Speaker 23 (27:25):
The Republicans have been probably the bigger users of Democrats.
We saw with everything that was Mama here aka the
student loan forgiveness.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
You know you name Democrat priority here, next next go around.

Speaker 23 (27:42):
Uh, they will have that too in their tool box
and class action losses move much more slower than the
actual stillin for good luck Republicans.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Well, what I would hope happens here is that, uh,
this wake spoke the hell up and realize that when
you sit elections out, when you complain about things, but
then you don't vote and you don't maximize your vote,
then you see what happens. And so, you know, people
need to realize that this thing is real. We warn

(28:14):
folks about this, and now they're seeing the real effects
of right wing rule in America. And of course, you
know Trump was speaking at the then you had a
traditional Pam BONDI who I guess she forgets she's the
Attorney General for the United States. Shelves like she's the

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legal capital.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Americans are finally getting what they voted for.

Speaker 25 (28:42):
No longer when we have rogue judges striking down President
Trump's policies across the entire nation.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
No longer today.

Speaker 25 (28:51):
In the six to three opinion, Justice Barrett correctly holds
that the District Court lacks authority to enter nationwide or
universal injunctions. These lawless injunctions gave relief to everyone in
the world instead of the parties before the court. As
the Supreme Court held today. They turned district courts into

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the imperial judiciary. Active liberal justices. Judges have used these
injunctions to block virtually all of President Trump's policies. To
put this in perspective, there are ninety four federal judicial districts.
Five of those districts throughout this country held thirty five

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of the nationwide injunctions. Think about that, ninety four districts,
and thirty five out of the forty opinions with nationwide injunctions.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Came from five liberal districts in this country. No longer,
No longer. These injunctions have.

Speaker 25 (29:55):
Blocked our policies from tariffs to military readiness, to immigration,
to foreign affairs, fraud abuse, and many other issues. The
judges have tried to seize the executive branch's power, and.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
They cannot do that no longer. No longer.

Speaker 25 (30:11):
These injunctions have allowed district court judges to be emperors.
They vetoed all of President Trump's power, and they cannot
do that. This has been a bipartisan problem that has
lasted five presidential terms, five different presidents, and it has
ended today.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
I literally cannot stand the sound of her voice. Neither
cannot stand it. But here's the thing, Matt that I
think is important. They gonna do what the hell they
want to do the previous attorney general. I'm sorry as hell,

(30:59):
and I'm going to keep saying this and say it again.
When you get power, you exercise it.

Speaker 22 (31:10):
Well, first, let me give you good news that you
may not know.

Speaker 17 (31:13):
I was trying to find the exact numbers, but Pam
Bondi's brother ran for president of the DC.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Bar oh got as dusted, amolished.

Speaker 22 (31:22):
I mean this demolished. I don't even remember the percentage,
but it was. I think it was sub ten percent.
So there's one benefit.

Speaker 17 (31:29):
You know, at least the DC lawyers were like, now
we're not the ones, but yeah, I mean, you're right,
and I think that's a lot of what we're seeing.
I think the Supreme Court is taking the tack that
allows it to get where it wants to go. This
whole thing about the Imperial you know, all this stuff
is obviously histrionics. But the thing about this court or
this this president is you want to talk about bipartisan

(31:50):
from all of those presidents from the you know, five
administrations before. What was bipartisan is the Justice Department had
a separation from the White House so that you didn't
become the White House's in house law firm. The White
House has its own council, Pam Bondy is not supposed
to be essentially his outside council.

Speaker 22 (32:08):
That's how DJ is operating.

Speaker 17 (32:10):
And you know, whether you want to debate the merits
of the nationwide injunctions, it goes.

Speaker 22 (32:14):
Back to the federalism issue I was talking about before.

Speaker 17 (32:17):
If you read the syllabus to this opinion, all they
talk about is how nationwide injunctions in courts of equity
were something that don't have an analog in eighteenth century England.
But the reason I think that it is stupid is
because we're at the point where we don't live in
eighteenth century England. The law has to change and it
necessarily has to evolve with time. And what I see

(32:38):
the Republicans do in this conservative court is they harken
back to this crazy, you know, scalea type textualism every
time they want to get to the point that they
want to get to, which is giving Donald Trump what
he wants, They're just finding a vehicle to get to
that destination. And that I think is intellectually dishonest. But
I also think it's dishonest with what we are as
a country. We are no longer a country of fifty

(33:00):
little states, fifty little thiefstoms, no matter how much we
try to convince ourselves of that, we live in a
country that is a globalized nation now. And the legal
fiction that we're going to keep acting as though that
isn't reality.

Speaker 22 (33:12):
It's just not going to get us anywhere.

Speaker 17 (33:14):
And it's going to continue to divest us of rights,
particularly when you live in a Texas or a South
Carolina or somewhere that does not want you to have rights,
when the people in power are just continuing to give
rights to people who look like them and divest them
from others. So, I mean, we have to get to
the point where we're honest intellectually about the country.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
We live in.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
And again, here's the reality. The folk who actually give
a damn, they're going to have to go hard at
the ballot box. And it's as simple as that, Eugenie.
They got to go hard. I mean, you're dealing with
people who want to I keep telling people they want
to lock in power for the next one hundred years.

(33:56):
This is not This ain't no cute exercise. This is
real power.

Speaker 23 (34:04):
Listen, Hillary trying to tell you, I'm trying to tell
you you had a sty trying.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
To tell you, had the vice president trying to tell you.

Speaker 23 (34:13):
And now for the second time around, people are realizing
they both are right and they're filling the infots of it.
You know, we saw what Jefferson and Goregard did in
twenty seventeen would come to power, and then the first
we're now seeing what pan bomb he's going to do
for Trump as Trump take power in the second term.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
And the thing is this, you know, the midterms is
still a year and a half away because of a.

Speaker 23 (34:36):
Very long time, they do a whole lot of damage
while while people are out protested, Vice President Harrison rallies
and you had deer Born and another place they were
going to put both and everybody's sitting back right.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
But what people doing, what is good?

Speaker 23 (34:55):
Well sleep be doing. Be sure he is possible at
both the hell and this level because of the situations
that we all saw coming like this. That's why we're
seeing the health being a fact. You know, Pam bonding
just today while the laws iguinst the entire federal to

(35:16):
this area because they don't like the rules out of
the we're one of I believe one of those fu
she's up pointing out them.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
What.

Speaker 23 (35:24):
But the thing is this, people have to vote like
their lives dependment, because their lives literally.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Absolutely, Michael about thirty seconds by going to break.

Speaker 24 (35:34):
Well, seeing that display from Pam Bindi today is an
absolute disgrace. And when you study the history of the
US Department of Justice, it was created in eighteen seventy
largely to enforce the new rights of black people, like
voting rights. Okay, so when you look at what they're
doing today, this this is what you get. And she's
acting like Donald Trump's defense attorney as opposed to being

(35:56):
the people's attorney.

Speaker 10 (35:58):
That's what the Attorney General support to be the people's attorney.

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Speaker 1 (39:55):
Int Well, Trump wants Congress skip there, how they recess
to pass his big beautiful bill. But guess what, it's
getting slamm left and right when you look. Even if
you look at a Fox News poll, a significant number
of Americans do not want nor do they support the

(40:19):
Big Beautiful Bill because they know how they're going to
be impacted. These folks literally are trying to cut additional
snap benefits in order to do the three point eight
Tree Doller text cuts. They want to stay like, Yo,
we got to hook up, We got to hook up
the billionaires, the millionaires. In fact, this was a Fox

(40:41):
News poll. They dropped this poll right if folks taking
June thirteenth through the sixteenth, their own poll shows fifty
nine percent of Americans oppose the Big Beautiful Bill compared
to thirty eight percent. You've got folks like Senator Tom Tillis,
North Carolina Republican, who's sitting here going, yeah, my state's

(41:03):
gonna lose a lot of money if this bill passes.
But here's the other thing that I think Democrats should
be doing more of, and that is exposing who the
right is trying to hook up. This is what Congresswoman
Stacy Plas get laid out on the House floor when

(41:24):
she said, y'all follow the money.

Speaker 26 (41:29):
Thank you, mister speaker. I have repeatedly told people, when
asked about the rationale for actions of this administration to
follow the money. Yesterday in the House Budget Committee, we
heard alarming testimony from expert witness Robert Gordon. He reminded
of those motives in the Republican's Reconciliation Bill when he

(41:51):
explained the lucrative opportunities for powerful private contractors to profit
off of the red tape and the bill created in Medicaid. Republicans'
Beautiful Bill for Billionaires requires increased work check ins for
people to retain that Medicaid for employment data. States are
likely to use the work number from Equifax, which costs

(42:14):
over twenty dollars per person per search. Under the bill,
more than eighteen million people would have to be checked
every month. That equates to three hundred and sixty million
dollars per month, and that is four point three two
billion per year or roughly forty three billion over the
bill's ten year budget going to the vendors who make

(42:38):
many who are going to be processing this follow the money.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Now, this follows Republicans wanting to get rid of and
just gut the efiling system. Guess who that helps? People
like H and R Block and other tax preparation companies.
You got Republicans saying I don't know if any Americans

(43:05):
who asked for this. Oh, you don't know if any
Americans ask, hey, can there be a filing system from
the IRS that I don't have to pay for the
bits easy to file my taxes. This is a joke, Eugene.
What they are doing is they are simply throwing the
billions of dollars of other people. They don't care a taxpayer.

(43:26):
And I'm telling you right now this is where I
said it. If I'm if I'm a Congressman Jefferies, if
I'm Ken Martin, I got me a David Letterman top
ten I'm having I'm calling it the most egregious thing
of a day or whatever. They got to keep hammering
this thing and even going to I said this about

(43:50):
having joint hearings, what going to red states and saying, hey,
y'all about to get jacked and you don't even know it.

Speaker 23 (43:58):
Look the whole and look this sort of Republicans and
Democrats all the time.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Right the Green New Deal has never actually passed, and.

Speaker 23 (44:06):
As the Green New Deal, but every Republican voter high
i Q law like you can tell you what a
Green New Deal is and SSS. And that's just they were,
you know, demonizing people that would essentially receive.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Benefits or greening you know, our energy economy.

Speaker 23 (44:23):
The same thing when you know, during Obamacare time, when
the death panels were all the grave, right, which actually
end up turn.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Out to be not true at all.

Speaker 23 (44:31):
Republic Democrats have to do everything possible to exposed who
would be the benefactors and end users of the dollars
that are gonna be passed on through the beautiful bill,
whether it be you know, the tax payers, whether it
be you know, hey, they coountant adding more lines to
the tax whether it be people like who are not
to make billions of dollars off of immigration enforcement, you know,

(44:52):
already begging Trump, hey, let us open up our own side.
You know, you got to go all the way to
Handoris of Venezuela's where we could do it for you,
and states kind of did the same thing.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
And you know, also on the flip side, right, there's.

Speaker 23 (45:06):
A reason why Elon was lashing out after the bill
came out, because hey, you know, they're paying for this
bill by taking committed text credits to subsidies that make
Tesla comfortable. So these are all opportunities for Democrats for
exploit to continue to chop away support at this bill
and while while at the same time showing how it
directly hurts and effects them. Will you tell me that, Hey,

(45:29):
my funeral gvernments about to spend billions of dollars and
while they're doing that, you know, western North Carolina that
got ravished financial dismasters is not getting a dime or
not getting what they need to rebuild. That's something that
will flip multiple House seats in North Carolina and the
next election if uncomfort.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Well indeed, indeed, and you know, we often are showing
Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett breaking these things down on various committee hearings,
and so we usually of course are showing you those
five minute breakdowns for the Krocket Chronicles. But we got
the Rocket Chronicles live, so roll it all right, cons

(46:20):
from a Jasmine Crockett is in the house, glad to
have you. What's happening? Look, you always go somewhere. I
don't even know what city you in on the given day.
I got tracked you on Instagram.

Speaker 9 (46:29):
So where you're at now, I'm still in this city
until the morning.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Gotchall You're still in the wildlands of DC. All right.
We were just talking about again, how it's so important
to walk people through what's really in this bill and
how they're going to get screwed. We showed a video
yesterday a couple of days ago, you doing that as well,

(46:56):
and that has that has to be the constant strategy
of Democrats hammer, hammer, hammer, and even go on Fox
News to do it. Their own poll is showing this
bill ain't popular.

Speaker 9 (47:11):
Yeah, I think that's right.

Speaker 15 (47:12):
I think that you know, when we do communication, we
have to figure out who is best fooded to do what.
We've seen some very effective communicators from our party go
on to Fox News, and if you are effective when
it comes to that very hostile and non truth environment,
that I think it absolutely is a good place to

(47:34):
put those voices, especially right now.

Speaker 9 (47:36):
Listen.

Speaker 15 (47:37):
You know there are those that want to make it
seem like it's partisan, or they want to make it
seem as if this is anti Trump, when really this
is pro American and this is pro democracy to push back.
And I think the more that we can couch this
in the terms of hurting the people and hurting all people,
urban as well as rule black, white, brown, yellow, I

(48:01):
think the better we will be. But so long as
people believe that this is just us going against Trump.
I think there will fail.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Absolutely. And look, you even have Republicans who are praising
how mom Donnie ran his race by saying he kept
focusing on cost, affordability, access, That's the stuff that was
resonating with people across the board. And I think by
doing that by saying, hey, this bill gets passed, your

(48:33):
cost's gonna go up, you're gonna be you know, the
rich gets up more, you're gonna get less, and they
are taking things away from you that Americans, especially a
lot of broke rich states need.

Speaker 10 (48:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (48:47):
Yeah, that's exactly right.

Speaker 15 (48:48):
And I'm glad that you brought up the race in
New York because it's been quite disgusting the things that
have resulted from his win. Listen, I don't really care
who you supported.

Speaker 9 (49:00):
I mean, half of these people didn't even participate.

Speaker 15 (49:02):
As it relates to this mayoral, but the idea that
it's okay to go out and do all types of
hateful things just because this is someone who's Muslim, I
think that we all have to stand together and denounce that.
I mean, we have freedom of religion in this country,
and so many have decided that they would attack him

(49:25):
or his religion, simply because they don't want to talk
about his substance, the things that you're talking about, the
things that actually potentially won him.

Speaker 9 (49:34):
The election, talking about affordability.

Speaker 15 (49:37):
They want to continue to distract with their hate and
their inflammatory rhetoric. And I think that we all have
to tell them that no, not on our watch, and
focus on us. Stop focusing on all these nonsensical attacks
that have nothing to do with whether or not the
person is qualified to do the job. Ultimately, I think

(49:58):
that if he is going to in the general election,
it will be because he continues to focus on the people.
Anybody that decides that they want to focus on things
such as his religion or the fact that he's not
necessarily born here, then I think that those people are
going to lose. I just think that the average American

(50:19):
is tired of the nonsense and once people that are
looking out for them and whether or not they are
going to survive Trump two point oh. And right now
a lot of people are finding out that Trump two
point oh is not two point oh because it's an upgrade,
but instead it's a downgrade.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Again. Where you go, how you communicate, all those things
are important. Listen, there are some people in the Democratic
Party in the US House. They don't like your style,
they don't like your tone. They say the exact same
thing about Congress Congress wanting Alexandra Caseo Cortez, the same
thing about Congress wan Ayama Pressley, Katie. They escape me

(51:00):
right now, Katie Porter, we can go. I mean, same thing.
And here's the reality what people and I get this
wherever I go. People are looking for someone who's a fighter.
And there are people even on the right who say, hey,
I may not agree with your policies, but hey, you're

(51:21):
out there fighting, and this is not a time to
play it safe, to do the usual Washington DC. Oh no,
my gentle colleague, all that nonsense. They ain't trying to
hear that.

Speaker 9 (51:35):
Yeah, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 15 (51:36):
I mean, one reason that Fox News is obsessed with me,
even though I'm never on there, but I'm always on there,
is because they are trying to telegraph to their own followers,
because I actually break through even to Republicans, and I
think that that is what's so scary for them. It's
not whether or not Democrats like me, is whether or
not Republicans like me. And frankly, anybody that is fighting

(52:00):
and is just laying it out. You know, I am
known for really bringing the receipts. I'm known for making
sure that I back up what I say with the facts.
It kind of ends up being kind of.

Speaker 9 (52:10):
Irrefutable, and that's what people are looking for right now.

Speaker 15 (52:14):
I just read a quote from one of the candidates
in the mayoral in New York and he said, right now,
the fight in the Democratic Party isn't about, you know,
progressive versus conservative Democrats. It's actually the fighters versus those
that will fold. And I think that that's absolutely right.

(52:36):
I think that the fight isn't necessarily specifically over the
policies so much as it is over who it is
that people believe are actually fighting for them.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Talked about Fox going, Fox going after you. Trump really
can't stand you. Uh, he can't. He can't stand that.
And he placed a call to the governor of Texas saying,
can't you change those congressional lines to get rid of
that black woman? That what he said, But that's pretty

(53:08):
much what he said. They want to change the congressional
lines to get rid of your district, which is going
to be a little hard to get around. Section two
the Voting Rights Act because you a kicking is behind,
which says that that means you're getting under Donald Trump's skin.

Speaker 10 (53:27):
Yeah, this is one of the.

Speaker 15 (53:29):
Most alarming things that hasn't really been put out into
the atmosphere is that Donald Trump knows that he's deeply unpopular,
but he doesn't care, and so he remembers what happened
in his first term when he only had the House
during that first half of his term. So instead of
allowing the people to rise up like the people most

(53:50):
likely are planning to do so that the Democrats can
take over the House, He's decided that he wants to
go after multiple seats in the House as a really
to Texas. The first two phone calls that I got
from the House, this is while they were still in session,
and this was before any reporting had come out, was
that he wanted to come after myself and Al Green. Ultimately,

(54:12):
once reporting started to come out, it said that he
wanted to try to squeeze out in additional five seats.
We only have thirteen Democratic seats in the state of
Texas right now to twenty five Republican.

Speaker 9 (54:24):
Seats, which is completely skewed.

Speaker 15 (54:27):
And Jerry manderd as it is, and so yeah, this
is his little project to hopefully hold onto the House
the same like he did in North Carolina. And he's
also planning to go after Ohio as well and targeting
two women there in the state of Ohio. So people
need to wake up and understand that, like, ultimately, if

(54:48):
we don't have the numbers, it's not because we're not
out here working. It's not because we're not trying to win.
But when the system is rigged against you, there's only
so much that you can do. So it'll be interesting
to see what some of our blue state governors decided
to do, whether or not they decide to push back
and say, hey.

Speaker 9 (55:06):
Who can play this game.

Speaker 15 (55:07):
If you want to sit up here and try to
play with those Democrats that are in red states, then
we can play with the Republicans that are in blue states.
So we'll see ultimately how this kind of shakes out.
But he's already called a special session in the middle
of July I believe. I believe around like July fifteenth,
and we will find out whether or not he's going

(55:28):
to put redistricting on.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
The call.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
We talk about again gifts from or I call it
manner from heaven the gifts being given. Kentucky Senator Mitch
McConnell gave Democrats, I think a really great gift when
he was asked the question about Medicaid cuts in his
home state. This is literally what the senior senator from Kentucky,

(55:57):
the man who was the Senate majority of to say it.
They'll get over it. Yeah, that's a hell of a
thing for somebody to say who has guaranteed health care
for life and has a platinum, a platinum a healthcare
plan that's far different than a lot of those broke

(56:18):
conservative people in Kentucky.

Speaker 10 (56:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (56:23):
I mean, you've got to wonder.

Speaker 15 (56:24):
I mean, they're saying the quiet part out loud nowadays,
right Like for a long time, their policies have harmed
those that they are supposed to serve, but they have
gone to the point that they are down with saying listen,
I'm here to be your grave digger. I am not
here to serve you, i am not here to represent you,
i am not here to do what is going to
be best for you and your family. Instead, I'm gonna

(56:47):
just go ahead and help to put you six feet
deep and ultimately listen, if you're down with that if
you believe that like making that sacrifice is what you
should do in this country, then so be it. I
look at a little differently, and so I'm going to
keep pushing the real truth out there about how harmful
it is and explain that I am against this because

(57:10):
I know that the people that elected me from Texas
thirty and sent me to DC that they are against
it because that's someone's mother, that's someone's grandmother, uncle, father, sister, brother, child,
And so I think that it is completely contradictory to
this idea that this is the party that is of

(57:31):
Christian values.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
No you're not.

Speaker 15 (57:34):
This is the party that is pro life, No you're not. Listen,
when it comes to being a Christian, it's not what
you say is what you do. It is through the
actions that we interpret whether or not someone is actually Christian.
And I don't know what is least Christian about these folks,
whether it is trying to act like, you know, women

(57:56):
should not have access to the health care that they need,
or if it's literally just ripping away healthcare at all
or for all people in the name of helping out
those that truly do not need a leg up.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
To that particular point. Nicholas Christoff had this story here.
In his column in The New York Times, he talked
about how all the food substance being cut by the
United States. He said, a child dies of man nutrition
every fifteen seconds, as one hundred and eighty five thousand,
five hundred and thirty five boxes of special food for
starving children are stacked in a warehouse in Rhode Island,

(58:33):
paid for by American taxpayers. After shutting USAID, the Trump
administration is just sitting on the boxes. And I have
said before numerous times, these people are not pro life.
They are anti abortion, but they as sure as hell
are not pro life, and they are not lovers of
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 20 (58:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (58:54):
No, I mean most people did not understand, and I
think that a lot of people still don't understan and
how the vast majority of our aid works, whether we're
talking about USAID or whether we're talking about aid that
we send over, say military aid or anything like that.
We usually don't go dropping bags of money, right. What

(59:14):
we do is we contract with those that are here
in our country, and we spend that money with people
here so they're able to make money. We're then able
to text that money, right, so we're technically getting some
of that money back and then we are then sending
that overseas. So whether we're talking about defense contracts, because

(59:35):
when we do things, we don't just say, oh, yeah,
you can have certain weapons, like we send those weapons
from the United States and we send them over We
don't give people access to our secrets and things like that.

Speaker 9 (59:48):
Same thing with the food. What happened is most people
didn't understand is.

Speaker 15 (59:53):
That we were buying food from local farmers and that's
where the money was going, and then they would send
food overseas. But unfortunately, you know, the farmers lost out
as well as the people that were supposed to be.

Speaker 9 (01:00:08):
On the receiving end.

Speaker 15 (01:00:10):
Essentially, all we did was commit this great waste in
the age of let's get rid of, you know, waste
and fraud and abuse. I think everything about the way
that this administration has operated has not only been wasteful,
but fraudulent and abusive, and I hope that the American
people are waking up. We heard testimonies of various farmers

(01:00:33):
that decided to go out there publicly and talk about
the harm that was being done. As someone who served
on the AD Committee, I can tell you that I've
been on my fair share of farms, and this idea
that we continue.

Speaker 9 (01:00:46):
To keep people divided.

Speaker 15 (01:00:48):
We should not that if the farmer is surviving in
rural America, then that very well means that we are surviving,
no matter for an urban rule or suburban America, because
we're able to eat. We should want our farmers to survive,
and our farmers should want us to make sure that
we're making the investments and things such as snap benefits,

(01:01:10):
because that means that that grocery store is going to
buy food from them.

Speaker 9 (01:01:15):
That means that the.

Speaker 15 (01:01:16):
People that are going to the grocery store are going
to be able to buy the food. The issue is
that we have allowed ourselves to be divided at every
step of the way, instead of understanding that we need
each other to survive.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Last question you saw at the House Oversight Committee ranking
member seat Democrats chose Congressman Robert Garcia. I open this
talking about your constant travel and doing all kinds of stuff,
traveling the country, raising money, being away from home, all
those sort of different things, and then you got folks
of Capitol Hill, people in your own party saying, oh,

(01:01:50):
she's not a team player, which is sort of weird
if you are going on behalf speaking in people's districts.
They're asking you to come in, they're asking you to donate.
You raise a lot of money to others. So it
had to be had to be upsetting to hear people
say you're not a team player and so what focus now?

(01:02:10):
Because obviously people still want you. Media folks always calling
you left and right. But that's a hell of a
thing to say when your track record says I helped
a lot of people out with money, time and energy.

Speaker 15 (01:02:26):
Yeah, I want people to know that, Like I mean,
when you're in politics in general, like I mean, everything
is a competition number one and number two. You know
somebody's got to lose. I mean, clearly there was only
one spot. And so I do want to clear the
err on this idea that like this is about a
win or loss for me. It's more so just some

(01:02:48):
of the things that were said that were really disheartening
in this race, right, And the only thing that I
really wanted my colleagues to do is to make an
assessment of who could be effective in this moment and ultimately,
if the caucus would have been like yo, like person
X is like.

Speaker 9 (01:03:07):
Most effective in this moment.

Speaker 15 (01:03:09):
Then that's one thing, right, It was just kind of
some of the other stuff that was being said that
was really really disheartening for me. But at the end
of the day, I am still the vice ranking member
on Overside. I am still someone who sits on that committee,
and so I am going to do what I need
to do on Oversight.

Speaker 9 (01:03:27):
I'm going to do what I need to do on Judiciary.

Speaker 15 (01:03:30):
And it's just clear that, you know, leadership specifically because
I decided not to push it to the full caucus
because of the message that elected and appointed leadership decided
to send by the number of votes that you know,
I was given, even though I had more commitments than
that going into the leadership meeting. So I said, okay,

(01:03:51):
it's cool, like y'all send a message that y'all aren't
really open to open to working with me, and so
I read the message loud and clear, and so for me, though,
I think about the fact that there's a lot of
time that I have missed in the state of Texas

(01:04:11):
in general, and so I'm not going anywhere, but I
am going to move.

Speaker 9 (01:04:15):
A little differently.

Speaker 15 (01:04:16):
I think that working with people like my pastor Pastor
Freddie Haynes, or working with Pastor Jamal Bryant, or working
with Reverend or I'm sorry, Bishop Jackson, or like there's
so many others. I think that I'm going to dig into,
like what I'm doing specifically with my advocacy and partnering

(01:04:36):
up with those that are in the black faith community,
making sure that they have access to the information that
they need. I think that I'm also going to dig
in at the state level instead of kind of spreading
myself then not getting enough rest because I'm constantly on flights.
I've got well over two million miles because I have

(01:04:57):
kind of been going and going. So you know, we've
got these state wide elections that are going to take
place in Texas, and so I think that those candidates
can use me across the state of Texas so hopefully
get us to some kind of wins. So I'm going
to dig in more locally as well as kind of
the black faith community. That's probably where I'm gonna expend

(01:05:20):
a lot of my resources and my energy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
All Right, then com from a Jasmin Crockett. We'll appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (01:05:27):
Long week gets the rest, Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
All right, thanks so much. Folks, I'm gonna go to break.
We'll be right back. Roland Martin unfiltered on the Blackstar Network.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
We don't stand up for medicaid now, in spite of

Speaker 11 (01:05:49):

Speaker 12 (01:05:55):
Congress, people, you got free healthcare paid for by the people,
and then we don't want the people to have the
same thing you have that is sick and we must
challenge it.

Speaker 13 (01:06:09):
This bill will deny millions of people that healthcare that
they need.

Speaker 14 (01:06:15):

Speaker 28 (01:06:20):
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Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
So it's our responsibility to return the healthier version to
our folks instead of just the red liqueurs marketed to us,
the red sodas and the other things. I mean, why
does the kool aid man have to sound like Louis Armstrong.

Speaker 28 (01:06:53):
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Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
What see if y'all this is Wendell Haskins aka Win
Hogan at the original tie Authastic And you know I
watched Rowland Martin unfiltered. Let's called my panel, Michael, Matt
and Eugene listen. You know I talked yesterday that that

(01:07:28):
okay for the House Oversight Committee, they chose Congress and
Robert Garcia. I ain't know who he is. Again, I
look at stuff every single day. Didn't stand out to me.
They claimed he you know, he's really silid. Okay, gotcha, great, whatever,
But for the life of me, I don't understand why
if you are a Democrat, if you are a Democratic

(01:07:51):
leader Hakim Jeffries, if you are d n C chair,
Ken Martin, if you were any of them. I want
my best people on the field. I want my best communicators.
And if I've got somebody who's raising a hell of
a lot more money than other people, who is selling

(01:08:11):
out dinners, that speaks louder than how somebody is moving
on Capitol Hill. You use you put your best players
on the field, not on the bench.

Speaker 24 (01:08:26):
I'll start with you, Michael, Yeah, I think so Representative
Jasmine Crockett is highly intelligent, highly effective.

Speaker 10 (01:08:35):
I follow her on YouTube as well as Instagram.

Speaker 24 (01:08:40):
I think it was either. I think it was Thursday.
Thursday night, she dropped a thirty seven minute video to
talk to update people on what's going on with the
big ass ugly Bill, how it's going to hurt people
in urban America as well as in rural America when
it comes to Medicaid and about sixteen million people losing
health insurance. So she is a rising star in the

(01:09:05):
Democratic Party. That's somebody you want upfront and most and
first and foremost. She is a real fighter. She is
a real fighter, and I watched her five minute segments
that she posts when she is challenging these Republicans and
people that they have testifying in different committees in the
House of Representatives.

Speaker 10 (01:09:26):
So yeah, that's somebody that you want up front.

Speaker 24 (01:09:28):
And she can attract a lot of youth as well. Okay,
that's another factor here. So yeah, I think, and this
is not taking anything away from a Representative Garcia, but yeah,
you want somebody like her out front in a leadership position.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Absolutely.

Speaker 22 (01:09:46):
Matt, Yeah, I mean I think Michael said a lot
of it.

Speaker 17 (01:09:50):
I think she's incredible in terms of how she stands
up and fights, and frankly, from just an optic standpoint,
I don't understand how you don't have somebody who communicates
as effectively that she does and who fights as voraciously
as she does. When you have the marketer in chief
when he's trying to pass Trump accounts, when everything is
a literation, even the big beautiful bill, everything's about sound bites,

(01:10:12):
everything's about rhetoric. She's very good at incisively picking apart ideas,
but she's also very good at packaging those ideas in.

Speaker 22 (01:10:21):
A memorable way.

Speaker 17 (01:10:22):
The Democrats have to realize that they're fighting fire with
policy is not going to get you down the road
if you have the wrong communicators of that policy. It
needs to be fire and policy. And when you're not
picking people who are able to bring that energy and
keep that energy, then you're not able to get that
messaging across.

Speaker 22 (01:10:41):
And that's what I think is so strange about this.

Speaker 17 (01:10:43):
I don't understand why the Democrats haven't figured out a
way to put these rural Republicans, people like people from
Texas in a bind. When you look at these big
tax cuts that are going to affect people's lives in
a measurable way. It seems able to figured out a
coherent policy to attack those Republicans who are going to
have the same reaction just like Chuck Grassley did in

(01:11:03):
the video you played you months ago, where people are
just literally there screaming til they're red in the face
because they're not getting what they bargained for with this
Trump presidency. It seems like the Democrats should be lashing
onto that and leveraging that a little better.

Speaker 22 (01:11:17):
And I don't know why they haven't figured out how
to do.

Speaker 17 (01:11:19):
That just yet, but I think that also necessitates that
those Republicans grow a spine and be willing to stand
up against the president, and we know that they're not
doing that, so I'm not sure how they reconcile that,
but it seems to me part of that is through consistent,
strong messaging.

Speaker 23 (01:11:33):
Jan I'm a assaulting hat on for a second hand right.
Elections come down to three things, money, media, and manpower.
Beth macrocc is one of the highest fundraisers, not just
in the Democrat concuss but in Congress.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Right, and when you're bringing on.

Speaker 23 (01:11:52):
The crop of Canada, is getting the getting your bench
together you need somebody like her that can help people
raise money. Right, give the coast sign right that they
give the coast signs to the small large donors say hey,
this person has my market mark, my market sail of approval,
and you know, open up your wiles from media. You know,
Fox News is obsessed with her, Seeing is obsessed with her.

(01:12:15):
You know, we have our you know, you know we're
black home, so you know we're gonna cover regardless. But
at the end of the day, the ability regarding media,
when you have five hundred and thirty odd members of
Congress find for the same airtime, is valuable manpower. She's
able to mobilize people across the country and particularly you know,

(01:12:39):
I understand, you know her one to move around and
move differently, but I think also she has she should
keep in mind that black women across the country are
looking at her for leadership, and uh, you know, the
ability to mobilize people is a special, special one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
And look, she's in.

Speaker 23 (01:12:57):
That verified air of people that could actually be a
difference maker and a lot of toss up elections, especially
with with with particular constituencies. So I do think that
you know, House leadership, I don't know what who came
Jeffreys is thinking of some of these things. Something honest
with you, I don't know what Ken Martin is taking
some of these things, but if on both of them,

(01:13:18):
I'm trying to figure out, I'm trying to figure out
the best.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Way possible to use effectively.

Speaker 23 (01:13:22):
In two thousand between twenty fifteen, when you had your Grandpas,
Marco Robios, your head cruisers, Scott Walkers, Jim Jordan made
his name, you know, Daryl As was taking.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Like rats, had all these dudes deployed out across the country.

Speaker 23 (01:13:38):
And made sure, you know, hey, one of y'all homewers
our president of candidate. But right now, all y'all hot
so and there's two thousand counties, fifty state parties, multiple
district parties. We got five hundreds of Canada's landing at
the federal level. I need y'all here raising money. I
need y'all out here mobilizing voters. I need y'all out
here dominating the airwaves. That's what the that's what both

(01:14:00):
the DNC and and and and Democratic leadership on the
on the hell should be doing with her. Now you
have somebody special, you know, they kind of they kind
of fumbled with alc.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Don't fumble again with Jennifer protect.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Well, so let me address the moving around thing.

Speaker 10 (01:14:20):
This is how I read that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
The way I read that, Matt is all y'all folks
who I've given money to, and I've traveled to your areas,
speaking at your democratic dinners. Where were y'all at where
I needed your vote? See this real simple. You don't
keep putting yourself out there for folk who ain't got

(01:14:44):
your back. And so remember this is the second time
she's tried to run for a particular position. Before it
was on the you know, communications committee, Uh, the leadership,
you know, in terms of for the caucus. Uh, they
went with Debbie Dingo out of Michigan. Okay, got it.
Now you've got this here. If I'm heard, that's exactly
how I'm saying. I'm like, all right, y'all, don't sit here,

(01:15:06):
want to roll with me, y'all hating on me, talk
about I'm not a team player, you know, sitting here
all this light behind my back. So you know what,
I ain't gonna sit here and keep giving y'all money,
spending time speaking at your dinners and all this sort
of stuff. I'm gonna go do some stuff that I
want to do in some other areas that I care about,

(01:15:27):
because it's clear that if you ain't got my back,
well I ain't gonna keep showing up for you if
I'm going her one hundred percent.

Speaker 17 (01:15:38):
I mean, yeah, everybody's been in that group project where
they have to do all the work, I mean, and
that's what it comes down to. And yeah, I don't
think you're wrong. I mean, I will say, I ask,
you know, what is the what do we need from
her right now? And I understand the idea of like,
I'm gonna move around because you're not showing me love
when I'm doing all of this work for you, But

(01:15:58):
I also realize that we need someone to stand strong
right now against you know, an assault on basically every
aspect of our lives, and she's doing that. And maybe
I think that there's a fair question about whether that
moving around, so to speak, needs to come later once
things are settled. But also, you know, this is going
to be four years of a current onslaught from this administration,

(01:16:19):
and you know, maybe that will energize other people to
come out. Although it seems that Democrats are just not
finding their footing in terms of messaging or anything in
terms of stopping that onslaught. So I don't want to
put all that on her shoulders either, because I think,
you know, sometimes they try to play that both ways.

Speaker 22 (01:16:35):
You're not a team player. But when we're getting outsize
performance from.

Speaker 17 (01:16:38):
You and you decide to step back to let other
people step up and they don't, then you become you're
not a team player.

Speaker 22 (01:16:44):
But twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
But see, I don't necessarily think it's it's I don't Again,
I don't believe she's saying I'm going to step back
so y'all can step up. I think it's you know what,
I'm not about to keep put killing myself doing all
this stuff. If you ain't listen the phrase, if I

(01:17:06):
scratch your back, you scratch mine at the end of
the day. If you doing stuff for folk and then
they ain't doing nothing for you, it's like a one
way street. So why do I need to keep doing
stuff for y'all? Look, I get it, I totally understand it.
And again, Michael, I just think it is beyond dumb.

(01:17:27):
I think it is beyond dumb that if you are
democratic leadership, you were not fully embracing of Jaspmin Crockett,
aoc A, Yanna Pressley at others, because here's the real
I showed the video. We played the video yesterday. A subcongressman.
Oh my god, y'all pull that video up. He was

(01:17:49):
sitting here, he got two other people behind him, and
he talking about the bill, the big beauty, the whatever
the hell bill, And I'm sitting here on Ain't nobody
listening to this man? Ain't nobody listening to him? I'm
understanding messaging. It's not just what you say, is how

(01:18:11):
you see? Like, I don't even know who dude is.
But ain't nobody responding to this?

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Play it?

Speaker 10 (01:18:24):
We are here with an urgent message.

Speaker 29 (01:18:27):
Republicans right now are attempting to jam through a bill
that would present the largest loss of healthcare and food
assistance in American history, and why all to pay for
tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires now. Just a few
weeks ago, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office confirmed that if

(01:18:51):
their bill becomes law, it will be sixteen million Americans
who will lose their healthcare. Bill includes the largest Medicaid
cuts in American history, large cuts to the Affordable Care Act,
and even more than five hundred billion dollars worth of
cuts to medicare. Unfortunately, as bad as that is, it's

(01:19:14):
not all. It also includes hundreds of billions of dollars
in cuts to nutrition assistance programs.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
You can see why we like to call what Trump has.

Speaker 29 (01:19:26):
Labeled the Big Beautiful Bill, actually what it really is
the Big Republican betrayal of working Americans.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Now.

Speaker 30 (01:19:37):
I talked about the tax cuts, and one of my
colleagues behind me will talk a little bit more about that.
But when you take all of this bill and wrap
up its component parts into this one bill, what you
find is this, for every American household that makes under
fifty five thousand dollars a year, they will be poorer

(01:20:00):
as a result of this bill. So it's quite clear
under this Republican betrayal, the poor get poor, the rich
get richer, and the middle class falling further behind.

Speaker 10 (01:20:14):
This is wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
It's not just bad economics. It is deeply immoral. I know,
I'm hot, guys, I got it. He put me to sleep.

(01:20:38):
I'm sorry where any of y'all engaged for those ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
No, I'm pretty sure not like.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
So nobody will like I I will well, I'm gonna
tell you what it is. It's the big Republican something
working people.

Speaker 10 (01:21:00):
But oh my god, so you know, well, I know
you're gonna play the I know you're gonna play the.

Speaker 24 (01:21:08):
Video when when you call my name, I'm sorry to
cut you off, but this is something I'm glad you
played it though. This is something I was thinking about
earlier today. I consume a lot more media in news
than the average person. UH and a lot of these
UH African American politicians I follow on social media as well.

(01:21:29):
For my analysis, a lot of the black politicians fight
harder than the white ones do. Okay, what we just saw,
first of all, he looks like he wants to run
for president. Number one. Number two is boring. It's not
going to engage people. It's not it's not going to
get them to stop. If that was scrolling on social
media TikTok or Instagram, it's not going to get people

(01:21:50):
to stop.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Did you hear anything specific, like you got to illustrate? Oh,
I was just loved.

Speaker 24 (01:22:00):
That's my next point, because you know, you need to
have some illustrations, some poster boards behind you, breaking down
bullet points, things like this.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
How he looked he looked like one of those FBI
Department of Justice news conferences. Attorney he looks like he
what the Attorney general is standing there, and you got
the US attorney over here and investigator, ladies and gentlemen,
I'm here to announce that we have filed federal charges

(01:22:30):
against y'all.

Speaker 24 (01:22:32):
This thing is, oh my god, right, he looks like
he wants to one for president.

Speaker 10 (01:22:38):
And the other thing is the president of the United
States that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Ain't even president United States.

Speaker 24 (01:22:47):
But the other thing is they listen to these white
political consultants. Okay, these white political consultants who never won
most of them never won an election themselves where they
were the candidate, and they get and they listen to
them on how to present themselves to the public.

Speaker 10 (01:23:04):
That's why that stuff is not working.

Speaker 24 (01:23:06):
That's why Jasmin Crockett, Ayana Presley, Nikima Williams, that's why
Lamonica mcguiver, that's why they're so effective, and they resonate
with with a lot of people, especially African Americans.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
I just, Eugenie, I'm sorry, that's just I'm again. If
I'm trying to sit here and talk to people about
how this bill is so awful, I want to send
out my fire breeders. I want to send out your
soulk who gonna flame the asses. That's what I want
to do.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
I agree.

Speaker 23 (01:23:43):
The thing is this, right, I go back to the
twenty fifteen presidential cycle. The reason we know Ted Cruz's
name and the reason we know Jim George Jim Jordan
his name is because they were fire breads. They were
lighting them up, you know, the right one. Crazy about
alc not because she you know, popped off a Democrat powerhouse,
but because she was able to go out there and

(01:24:05):
light people up to stay with Ayana Pressley and now
with Jasmin Crockett. If I'm Democrats right now, I am
looking to build up that next wave of Jasmine Crockett,
and I'm you know, probably more Unluckly, I'm the nc
rable to not. If I was, I would be doing
everything possible to empower her to to be able to
go grab that next wave and the next wave because

(01:24:27):
going in look twenty eight, you're going to need everybody
is a This is a three thousand plus county battle
that's being fought. They just announced like it just Jan
Bakon's not to run for re election. That's a prime
pickup seat right and guess so you're probably gonna want
a deathline. Crockett to go in there and help them
start up, you know, young democrats run in that seat,

(01:24:47):
raise some money. But if your people, if you're getting
people like her for the sidelines and not keeping them
on the field, you're already set to self up for losses.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Absolutely, absolutely, they just crazy. They just crazy, and that's
just who they are. So it's a trip. Are y'all
gotta go to quick wait, we'll be right back Rolling Unfiltered,
the Blackstue Network.

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
We don't stand up for medicaid now, in spite of

Speaker 11 (01:25:24):

Speaker 12 (01:25:30):
Congress people, you got free healthcare paid for by the people,
and then you don't want the people to have the same.

Speaker 31 (01:25:36):
Thing you have.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
That is sick and we must challenge it.

Speaker 13 (01:25:44):
they need.

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Kim, you are watching Rolling Martin Unfiltered, Boy, he always
unfiltered though I ain't never known him to be filtered?

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Is there anohing? Is there another way to experience Roland
Martin than to be unfiltered? Course he's unfiltered. Would you
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Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
The other day I had that crazy that I had
crazy conservative Shelley Winter out of Atlanta on the show. Uh,
talking about, of course, while all of these black Trumpers
you love maga folk. It's amazing how they real quiet
on black stuff. I'm gonna get to them in a second.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
But Bishop William Barber is with us a matter of fact,
better fact, Bishop, I'm gonna ask you this here. Bishop,
there's this John Armanchuqul Nigerian, a Nigerian immigrant. I think
he's actually in Wake, North Carolina or something like that.
You know, he's the one who's aligned with Trump. He

(01:27:20):
wears his Lift forty seven hat on Instagram, in YouTube
and all this stuff. He's joining with Trump on banning books.
He's all about talking about LGBTQ stuff. But it's amazing
how folk like him. When Trump was trashing African nations.
This African immigrant don't say nothing when they have an

(01:27:40):
anti black agenda. This African god show his face, just
showed his face, this little arm On Chukul. They ain't
got nothing to say. So it's amazing when they love talking.
They show up at Black History Month receptions, Bishop Barbara.
But when we look at how the policies are going
to negatively pact Black peace, these so called pastors like

(01:28:04):
John Amanchukuh's amazing how quiet they are.

Speaker 31 (01:28:08):
You know the problem with that, and I'm sorry my
voice is a little bad tonight rolling up, got a
bronco thing. But the problem with it is that's their theology.
The only thing they're looking at is getting paid. They
become chaplains of Trump, if you will. They are not profits.
They don't speak against injustice, and they really don't care

(01:28:30):
about the least of these and the people many times
sitting in their own pews. They are content with a
few accolades for amendment and whatever air time they can get.
And it's actually, you know, well, it's to be quite honest,
it's damnable. It's it's sinful, and that's why we have
to counter it. That's why we have to have shows
like what you're doing. That's why I was listening a

(01:28:52):
minute ago and just listening to what you were saying.
Even about the Democrats, they are What I think they
need to do is get to do like Snick used
to do. Snick, before you could go out and speak,
they put you in a room and you had to
go through, you know, a battery test, and you had
to be pushed and you had to be trained. Because
this is no time to have weakness in the public square.

(01:29:16):
You know, literally, Roland, I was thinking about you. I
were talking about the other day with di they are
attacking you know, a DEI.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
With this bill, we will d I E.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Die.

Speaker 31 (01:29:31):
This is a killer bill. It's not just a piece
of legislation. You can't talk about it calmly. You're talking
about fifty one thousand people dying in the first year
with this budget bill, and every year for ten years,
I said, half million people that will die from the

(01:29:52):
impact of this bill, in addition to the two hundred
and fifty thousand people who are already dying for poverty
every year in this country. There's nowhere in the world
we can listen to these as you say, these pastors
who won't say a word about what's going to happen
to our communities.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
And there's no way we can be calm about this stuff. Man,
this is the time.

Speaker 31 (01:30:13):
If you've ever been loud and strong and accurate, it's
the time to stand up now.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
Absolutely, and that's one of the reasons why. Look, look
you're having this moral Monday's event. On Monday eleven am.
When I called out National Baptist Convention USA leaders in
Kojik and the missionary folk for taking the three hundred
grand from Target, I asked a question, Okay, are y'all
gonna be at the march on Monday. Where are y'all

(01:30:40):
on these issues? And I say the same thing to this,
to this ignorant MAGA pastor, a Nigerian immigrant out of
North Carolina, It's like, Oh, you call yourself pro life,
but you ain't got nothing to say about the massive
custo to USAID and people across the world are dying,
children are dying because of starvation. They say nothing. They

(01:31:04):
say nothing about how the political at his story the
other day, how the City Republicans are trying to do
a more cuts to the SNAP program to pay for
a three point eight trillion dollar task cuts. These folks
ain't pro life.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
No, no, there's nothing pro life about it.

Speaker 31 (01:31:20):
In fact, Roller, this is the large transfer of wealth
from poor people than what's transferred from the slave to
the slave master. This bill, on the one hand, they
want to add ten thousand more ice agents with masks
on their face, and the only way they're going to

(01:31:41):
do that is they want to cut millions of children
off of free lunch and millions of people off of snap.
And basically what they're trying to do with this bill
is undermined the affordable care agg and the ultimately they
want to get get rid of things like Medicare, and
we have to remember Medicaid, Medicare. Those are victorists that

(01:32:01):
came out of the civil rights movement. Those are our victorists.
Those are victorists that came out of a lot of blood,
sweat and tears and death. Is that's why I refuse
to call it the big beautiful bill. Nobody should be
using that language. If you're against it, don't repeat what
they're saying. This is the big, deadly destructive And that's

(01:32:22):
why Rolling on Monday, you know, we've been doing Tomorrow Monday.
When we first went about about one hundred and twenty
folks showed up there arrested three of us.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
The next time, ten times more people came.

Speaker 31 (01:32:34):
These folks even arrested a girl with cerebral palsy in
her wheelchair holding her bible.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
This is what you're dealing with.

Speaker 31 (01:32:44):
And so more people are coming back this Monday, and
we're bringing caskets. We're bringing fifty one caskets to outline
how many people are gonna die in the first year.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
We're going to bring the information on how.

Speaker 31 (01:32:59):
Bad this is for each state, because that's the other
thing democrats ought to be doing. They how to have
impact that people every time they're talking about it, and
they ought to be telling people, you're talking about four
hundred thousand people in North Carolina, you're talking about two
hundred thousand people in South Carolina. This is no time
to be talking in generalities and platitudes.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
This is a battle. And when you add that this.

Speaker 31 (01:33:24):
Bill and it's dealingess to what the Supreme Court did
today and how they are going after the fourteenth Amendment,
Roland people need to understand. And in Black church and
if you're not just talking about this stuff, What the
hell are you really preaching about, Because you're talking about
the fourteenth Amendment. If you ultimately undermine that, you are

(01:33:46):
undermining the amendment that allowed for the rebirth of America
in South.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Everything we hold true, everything we want.

Speaker 31 (01:33:57):
Women's rights, civil rights, labor rights, all of them are
rooted in the forteenth Member.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
Now they didn't ended today, but they did.

Speaker 31 (01:34:06):
Something that is so bad, and that is that if
what judge finds that somebody's done something illegal and they
can't stop it until we find out if it's unconstitutional,
the only way you can stop it now is you've
got to get plainings in every state to file a
class action. If we don't watch this stuff and start

(01:34:27):
raising the temperature and the fire. I heard somebody say
black folk need to be sitting out. Now, what do
you mean sitting out? You know how many black people
need medicaid? Do you know how many black people would die?
Will die if they don't have medicaid, if they don't
have medicare I mean, this is not a time for

(01:34:47):
us to sit down. This is a time for us
to analyze every piece of public policy and ask the question,
how is this going to impact Black people in this
country and make sure that our voices are heard loud
and strong and continually and consistently.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
Again, was taking place on Monday is crucial, and I
played that. I showed this video right here to your point.
Here were people in wheelchairs and they were they had
ties on them, arrested them because they were protesting Medicaid cuts.
And they arrested y'all for praying in the Capitol rotunda.

(01:35:29):
But when but when a right wing evangelical came in
there singing, Oh, they came out and they were it
was like a worship service.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
In that exactly. And that's the contradiction.

Speaker 31 (01:35:43):
And that's why they'll get They really are mad because
we didn't choose prayer because we think we prayer means
we see this as holy work.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
We're not going anywhere.

Speaker 31 (01:35:52):
But here we are praying against what they're doing and
get arrested and put in paddy wagons. I mean, and
I'm not talking about no catch and release. They are
literally arresting us, putting us in patty way, and they
bent me up in it. But but I'm not worried
about the arrest because we're trying to arrest attention to
the nation. But on the other hand, they had a

(01:36:14):
press service the same day we did the first mall Monday,
and they didn't pray, say a thing about the things
that God really cares about. And that's how you treat
the least to me, But brothers and sisters should be
I need you to come out. We need people that
we all pray people. That was a man and Roland.
They have told us this, they said this time, they

(01:36:34):
have the orders that if we come and we even
in more than thirty people pray in the plaza, they're
gonna arrest them.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Now, want you hear that?

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
So don't wait wait hello, holda so they so if
you say so now, if you stand outside of the
US capital, you.

Speaker 18 (01:36:51):
Can get arrested for yes, sir, we have been told
and it's called praying, and it's called prayer and not
not not y'all ay coming at with bear spray, no
pepper spray.

Speaker 32 (01:37:05):
And dust the ties and attack. They don't arresting folk
for praying. Right against what they're doing in Congress. Well,
we were told was that if you if thirty people
stand in that plaza, thirty Now, if thirty stand in
that plaza, and that doesn't matter if they're in robes.

(01:37:27):
It doesn't matter if they are in wheelchairs. If thirty
of them staying there.

Speaker 31 (01:37:32):
And pray, they will consider that illegal emotive, illegal protests
and will arrest them.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
That's what they're saying. And so we're going.

Speaker 31 (01:37:44):
Nobody's going because we're trying to arrest the attention of
this nation. I've been with every movement you know I
have about d I I'm gonna stay with those movements,
but I'm also challenging people we better pay attention to
these policies that are being passed because this particular bill rolling.
They're passing this for ten years, ten not FID ten years.

(01:38:10):
And if they do this, you won't be able to
undo it for ten years. I mean you could undo it,
but it takes so much effort. The level of destruction
that they're talking about, and you want to really know
how evil this is. We just came out of COVID rolling,
and three hundred thousand of the one billion people that

(01:38:30):
died during COVID did not die because of COVID.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
They died because the lack of access to health care.

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
Stunning, And again did this so called preacher, This so
called preacher out of North Carolina, John amanchuk Wu. Silent, silent,
silent on the attacks on the poor, Silent on medicaid
all what we're trying to do. Hell, he's silent on Trump,

(01:38:59):
not even hurricane relief to his own state of North Carolina.
But he would rather sit there and get his little
little invite to the White House, where's little cute litt
forty seven hat and be happy that Trump has assigned
him to leave the effort to ban books because he
wants to call thing perversion and he wants to attack saying, oh,

(01:39:20):
they got all this sexual stuff in these very books.
But this Nigerian immigrant who claims to be a preacher,
silent on the tax on Africans, Silent on children around
the world dying because of US aids cuts, Silent on
the attacks of the poor, Silent on all of that.
But they claim they love Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
That's right.

Speaker 31 (01:39:43):
Well, the fruit is known by that. He is known boy,
the fruit that bad. And while and he's worried about
who's gonna sleep with who in a book and not
worried about the way you know that all of us
are getting screwed, if you will, in this bill and
in the East policy that Trump is possy, and it's
not just him, joel Ostein, let's call it out, all

(01:40:05):
of them, the big Mega's craft flow, joel Ostein, what's
her name, Joyce, georgeas Buns, Mius, the God down in Texas,
the Big Church. None of them are saying a word
about the things that Jesus said was the fundamental way

(01:40:26):
you judge a nation, and that's how it treats the
least of these. But what's even more damnable is if
we who know better, and I'm saying, Black Church, if
all these conventions we're having this summer, if you're having
a convention or you're having a preaching gathering and you're
not talking about this, and I'm not just talking about

(01:40:48):
mentioning it in a sermon for one second, and get
an amen. If you got thousands of people gathering and
you're not informing them of what's going on and how
what's going on is directly opposed to Jesus saying the
spin of the Lord is a knowing that me the priest,
good news to the poor and healing to the broken hearted.
If you're not dealing with this, then it is a

(01:41:09):
form of theological male practice to be to have all
these gatherings and not be dealing with what's happening to
the people that are sitting right in your views.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
All right, Bishop William Barber, we'll be there with you
on Monday, more Mondays, folks, beginning at eleven am. They'll
be gathering at the Lutheran Church. Show the graphic. Please
come on, show the full screen graphic that's going to
be taking place again on Monday. Then there'll be eleven
am there they will march to the Supreme Court for
a news conference there where impacted people will be speaking.

(01:41:44):
That's important because we get tired of these rallies where
you got politicians running their miles, but folks who are
impacted by these policies, and we'll be speaking, and then
we'll be covering all of that live right here on
the blackstud Network.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
Bishop.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
We appreciate it, Thanks a lot.

Speaker 31 (01:41:59):
And we're going back to that retunda and we're going
in that plaza, all right, and what they do, they
do it, but we're not gonna stand down, and.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
Our cameras we'll be right there with you. Thanks a lot,
Thank you, sir, appreciate it. I'm gonna go I wanna
go back to my pattern here. See this, this is
the thing that trips me out. That's why, that's why
I had to call out this little trifling pastor Eugene,
a so called pastor, because I saw his little comments.
He was attacking Pastor Jamal Bryant on Twitter for the

(01:42:28):
Target boycott, and so he was running his little mouth.
And so then when I responded on Twitter, then a
little fool he gonna have, he gonna have more to
say about me. And I'm sitting here, like, do you
try to sit here and call me names all you
want to? You can try to sit here in question
my manhood. First of all, I don't give a damn
about you. I mean when I say I don't give
one damn about you. But here's what I do know.

(01:42:53):
I do know you kiss more. Trump asked, and Milania,
what I do know is that when we look at
the impact of policies on people who are hurt, your
simple Simon asked, don't say nothing, you quiet, you call
yourself a See I love it how he wants to

(01:43:16):
preach and speak against what he calls perversion of homosexuality
and LGBTQ, but he ain't got nothing to say about
attacks on the poor. Hm, he ain't got nothing to
save about policies that are leaving folk starving. He ain't

(01:43:40):
got nothing to say about his own state trying to
recover from the hurricane. And Trump said, no, y'all ain't
getting more relief because they elected a democratic governor. It's
amazing how all that other stuff in the Bible. He
ain't got nothing to say. But then he want to

(01:44:01):
run his little mouth and try to call somebody. Says, man,
you a joke. You a joke. That's what you are.
You an absolute joke. And all you care about are
your nice little cute invites to the White House. And
that's why called negros like you the help.

Speaker 23 (01:44:21):
Listen, and they come in all shapes and sizes, right.
Uh you know at this point, you know, we're over
a decade in and dealing with these black magna folks
that are just like him. Uh, you know, they've accomplished nothing,
they've done nothing, They've done nothing for the community, but
they have everything to say.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
I'm dealing with somebody the other side of that. I
gotta what I considered be a.

Speaker 23 (01:44:41):
Lesbian predator in cell that's like literally harassing me a
house on Twitter and there's also guess what done nothing
for the community, has no accomplish has no achievements, nothing
actually tangible outside.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
Of harassing people that are actually doing things.

Speaker 23 (01:44:54):
But when it comes to when it comes to the
real issues, when it comes to real impact, they are
nowhere to he found.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
They have no input, they have no actual action that
they can put.

Speaker 23 (01:45:04):
Behind things and show, Hey, this is what I changibly
did and this is what I changibly produced.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
And so you know, you know Reverend Barber, you know, he's.

Speaker 23 (01:45:12):
Picked up the Poor People's Movement panel and uh you know,
he's conscious of a nation at this point, and and
folk like this Nigerian pastor that we're not even going
to give, you know, airtime to his name.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
Uh you know, it's just sit down, set up.

Speaker 23 (01:45:28):
You know, I've been telling people at this point out
the way and let those that will do, let those
that will accomplished, those that will achieve that those that
want to provide tangible results to it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
I bet his jollaf rice is trash.

Speaker 10 (01:45:44):
Probably it probably is.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
Let me uh so so again, and we know he
ain't gonna say that, y'all that that were a couple
of African U presidents Congolese. What's up? Man is funny?

Speaker 22 (01:46:00):
I mean used to taking the man joelof Rice. It's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
Yeah, because causeuse because more because more than likely uh,
he hanging around maga. Uh he probably preferred meat loaf
uh and unseasoned chicken and raisins and potato salad. That's
probably what he's doing because uh, he wants to assimilate.
All right. And here's the perfect example. Trump today had
a couple of African presents in the Oval office. And

(01:46:24):
if y'all want to see stupidity, it's just sheer stupid.
Just just roll this bullsh.

Speaker 9 (01:46:32):
Here we have Carianna who is from the continent of Africa.

Speaker 24 (01:46:35):
She's been a reporter here in the United States for
many years, and she has a story to share with
the press, with the media, and with these two.

Speaker 9 (01:46:42):
Fantastic leaders who have joined you today.

Speaker 23 (01:46:44):
So, Hariana, go.

Speaker 20 (01:46:46):
Over here talk so they can see you.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
Sure, great, thank you, very much.

Speaker 8 (01:46:52):
Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 33 (01:46:55):
That he's very you have no idea. He's very thankful
for what you're doing, for what your administration doing, not
only him, the entire congo ist people. They see that
finally they will have hope and President. She said, I'd
also mentioned at the end of my interview that when
peace finally come to Democrat Republic of the Congo, he's
thinking to nominate you as a Nobel Price.

Speaker 9 (01:47:17):
Piece because he said you deserve.

Speaker 33 (01:47:19):
You have been working to bring peace in the in
the world, not only at the Congo, and he's very
hopeful to meet you in the future.

Speaker 21 (01:47:26):
That's so boy, and that's so beautifully stated. And Caroline
said number one, she did say, and I shouldn't say
this because it's politically incorrect.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
She said, she's beautiful and you are beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
I'm not allowed to say that.

Speaker 31 (01:47:39):
You know.

Speaker 21 (01:47:40):
That could be the end of my political career, but
you are beautiful and you're beautiful inside.

Speaker 1 (01:47:46):
So I wish I had world reporters like you. I
covered Africa for a long time.

Speaker 33 (01:47:51):
Yes, for over ten years that I cover, even your
first administration.

Speaker 20 (01:47:57):
Yes, I know that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
Well, thank you, and I said you said that, I
appreciate it.

Speaker 33 (01:48:01):
And I have one more question, mister president, since we
know in July or in the future, both President of
One and the Congo will be coming to the United States.
In Africa, President jan Lorenzo, the President of Angola, he
is also the leader of African Union.

Speaker 5 (01:48:16):
He worked very hard to bring peace, Batton.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
For Let's get him here, yes, okay, would you invite
him for me?

Speaker 21 (01:48:22):
Of course, Okay, we'll have I know that he works
very hard and uh he's ahead of essentially the union.

Speaker 1 (01:48:31):
So the union all over Africa, not the kind of
union that we have.

Speaker 8 (01:48:35):
This is the union all over Africa.

Speaker 20 (01:48:37):
And I'd love to have him.

Speaker 10 (01:48:38):
So you'll let him know, mister president, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
Good now you'll go back to ware you bve right.

Speaker 10 (01:48:46):
That's great, that's a great job.

Speaker 21 (01:48:48):
That's real knowledge and the real hard to congratulations.

Speaker 1 (01:48:53):
Okay, first of all, these are the foreign minutes of
both countries. But he's over the union over all. He
don't even know what the hell of Africa Union he is. Yeah,
he ain't got no clue what that is. But here
is the real deal. Okay, this is I'm about to
show y'all this is really what that's all about. Okay,
what Trump was all about. That wasn't about no peace.

(01:49:16):
It was about African minerals.

Speaker 22 (01:49:19):
Watch exactly that part, cobal tantalum.

Speaker 21 (01:49:26):
So I'm a little out of my league in that
one because I didn't know too much about it.

Speaker 10 (01:49:30):
I knew one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
They were going at it for.

Speaker 1 (01:49:32):
Many years and with machetes.

Speaker 21 (01:49:35):
It is one of the worst, one of the worst
wars that anyone's ever seen. And I just happened to
have somebody that was able to get it settled. I mean,
just a brilliant person who is very comfortable in that
part of the world. It's a very dangerous part of
the world.

Speaker 10 (01:49:49):
They said, are you uncomfortable there? People are being killed,
school children are being raided.

Speaker 21 (01:49:55):
And killed, and I don't even want to say how
but as viciously as I've ever heard, are you uncomfortable? No,
that's the part of the world that I know very comfortable.
Was able to get them together and sell it. And
not only that, we're getting for the United States a
lot of the mineral rights.

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
From the Congo as part of it.

Speaker 10 (01:50:13):
They're so honored to be here. They never thought they'd
be coming to it. Look, this is a very tough
part of the world.

Speaker 1 (01:50:19):
They never thought.

Speaker 21 (01:50:19):
They were just telling me, they never thought they'd ever
be coming to the White House.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
And they're so honored. And oh so we couldn't we
couldn't end the war, Michael, because it was right. Let's
be sure to snatch the minerals from the Congo.

Speaker 10 (01:50:39):
Yeah, Roland, that's what this is about.

Speaker 24 (01:50:40):
So I saw some of this broadcast that live today
ABC News online on Facebook. I read the piece from
the Associated Press, and so this is the height of hypocrisy.
And this is the US trying to outflank China when
it comes to tapping into the mineral wealth in Africa.

(01:51:03):
And according to the Associated Press, the mostly untapped minerals
are estimated to be worth as much as twenty four
trillion dollars by the US Department of Commerce.

Speaker 10 (01:51:14):
Their analysis. These are the minerals in the Congo.

Speaker 24 (01:51:18):
But notice, okay, if Donald Trump gets cared so much
about African nations and about six million have been killed
in this conflict, Okay, if he cares so much, why
did he revolt the temporary protective status of Cameroonians.

Speaker 10 (01:51:31):
Why did he revoke the temporary protective status of Haitians? Okay?

Speaker 24 (01:51:36):
Why did he allow Elon Musk to kill USAID? And
only about forty billion dollars will spend a year on
USAID And it is estimated by the Boston University model
that three hundred thousand people have died worldwide because of.

Speaker 10 (01:51:53):
The customer USAID. Tens of thousands of them are in Africa.

Speaker 24 (01:51:57):
Donald Trump did not announce a refugee program today for
the victims for those who have been displaced from the
Congo or Rwanda because of the conflict. But what did
what was announced today from the Trump administration is that
one thousand white South Africaners are going to come to
the US because they looked at US refugees trying to

(01:52:19):
escape a genocide in South Africa. But ninety five percent
of the people killed in South Africa or black South Africa, given.

Speaker 1 (01:52:27):
A genocide that don't exist and Jennifer doesn't exist, and
they come.

Speaker 10 (01:52:31):
He's not allowing black South Africans to come here.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
Now because the refugee because the opotive word is black.

Speaker 27 (01:52:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
And again, and what you have met, you have these
African immigrant preachers from North Carolina who don't say nothing
as Trump just sit here and dismisses and disrespects African nations.
But yeah, this whole thing was about the money.

Speaker 22 (01:52:54):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 17 (01:52:55):
And a lot of them are grifters in there about
their money and their own social personal fluence. But I'm
glad you mentioned that because I read an article in
preparation of this today and even MSNBC.

Speaker 22 (01:53:06):
The way they reported it, I mean, they talked about the.

Speaker 17 (01:53:08):
Peace and they just put a little cotticel in there
about all of the minerals that were coming from it,
and it almost looked like they touted Western investment. And
I really found it disgusting because we know that the
real reason they're going in is.

Speaker 22 (01:53:20):
To raid those minerals. So I mean, that's all it is,
That's all it's about, is money.

Speaker 17 (01:53:25):
And these same people who purport to be, you know,
religious leaders, and they're just about the dollars in their pocket,
I mean, are disgusting.

Speaker 22 (01:53:32):
But also a lot of it's not surprising.

Speaker 17 (01:53:34):
White pastors stood in the poolpits and talked about slavery
being ordained under God one hundred and fifty years ago,
right or two hundred years ago.

Speaker 22 (01:53:42):
That's no different than what we see.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
I mean.

Speaker 17 (01:53:44):
The truth is when people are living their true religious
or their true moral values, you can differentiate those people
from the people who find social capital in purporting to
live those values.

Speaker 22 (01:53:54):
And that's what we're seeing. And frankly, both black and
white people who are leaning on the teachings.

Speaker 17 (01:54:00):
Of Christ leaning on doctrinal you know, teachings, but are
not doing the real things like being out and feeding
the poor. And in our own state, Roland Greg Abbott is,
you know, touting the legislature's decision passing to passing the
bill to put the Ten Commandments up, but a couple
of days later, he removes millions of dollars in snap

(01:54:21):
benefits for Texas people who need it. I mean, I
don't know how those two things can coexist. But the
reality is nobody's calling them out about it. And if
they do, it's not the majority voice. It's not the
majority West Texas and Republicans who are saying, these are
not the values we purport to live. It's it's more
about whiteness and about money. That's what it comes down to.

Speaker 1 (01:54:39):
Yeah, because they don't actually, they don't actually believe in
those values. All right, folks, last story here, we lost
a legendary figure. That's right. Vocalist Walter Scott, co founder
of the iconic group The Whispers, passed away at the

(01:54:59):
age of eighty one. Walter was battling the last six
months he was battling cancer. Lost that battle with cancer.
He and his brother found it founded the Whispers, and
of course we know so many of their hit songs.
We know so much about you know, in terms of

(01:55:23):
their singing, and the beat goes on so many songs,
seventies and eighties, you name it. Man, they had it gone,
and so so many people remember their music. When they
talk about iconic band groups, groups, they certainly talk about
the Whispers. Of course, born in Texas, moving to Los

(01:55:45):
Angeles where they grew up. They of course just did
so many amazing things. And not only that, folks, he
missed other performances, and many folks were concerned about that, uh,
about them. And I'm you know, last last year, last
year I went to I was in Saint Louis UH

(01:56:07):
for a concert and in fact was interesting is that
it was interesting is that I went to Saint Louis Uh.
It was a Frankie Beverly Mays, the o Jays and
the Whispers, and I wanted to see my good buddy
Eddie Lavert uh. And I had never met the Whispers.

(01:56:29):
Had we had them on the show, uh, and again
had never met them. This is a photo that I took.
Y'all can bring the music down, please thank you. This
is a photo I took of them, uh, the twins
after the show. It was it was great to see them.
Of course, like I said, they both of them are
huge fans of this show.

Speaker 26 (01:56:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
We Uh, we talked, We talked h for a bit
there after they finished their performance. Uh, and it was
it was great to chat with them, and of course
they were on stage performing. This is some of that
performance right here in Saint Louis and Maine. It's pretty
sad that man, this concert was June twenty second last year,

(01:57:10):
and we've now lost we've now lost Walter and of
course Frankie Beverly who passed away last year as well.
And in fact, the twins were on our show in
twenty twenty. Here's some of that interview.

Speaker 34 (01:57:28):
We have seeings like I got to do wrong before
they noticed me. We said, we got to get in
on this and sing about what's happening in our country
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:57:37):
And so you put this together and then of course
you shot your socially distanced video absolutely accord with mask.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
How about that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:50):
I mean, the thing is, we've had we've had BB
Winers on, We've had we've had Terry Ellis and a
lot of artists, Tray up the video. A lot of
artists have really been moved to speak to these issues,
and really it's a throwback to Marvin Gaye put out

(01:58:11):
his album when Curtis Mayfield. Where you mean you have
a history of artists who use music to speak to
social issues.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 34 (01:58:21):
We first did it in nineteen you remember, in nineteen
sixty five and the Watch riots go from South Central
Watch California.

Speaker 2 (01:58:28):
Right after that we.

Speaker 34 (01:58:29):
Were brought the song seems like I got to do wrong,
and we spoke about it then. But here we are
fifty years later, and you know, they say history piece itself.
We see the same thing and it angers us, you know,
because maybe this time Roland, they'll get the idea of
what we did trying to say, but this is not
you and I know that this is not you know,

(01:58:50):
this didn't just start yesterday. It's been here for a
long time.

Speaker 35 (01:58:55):
Go ahead, someone else, glad No, right, Like, well, we
said back in sixty five, we've had this and this
is nothing new. It's just now we have those beautiful
things called cameras and you know, iPhones and androids that
are basically now in everybody's hands. And then what's happening

(01:59:19):
now is people are getting to see it for what
it really is.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
Before.

Speaker 16 (01:59:24):
You know, when I was growing up and get pull over,
police officer, you didn't have the advantage of taking these
kind of things or them seeing how they actually act
when they're around you. But now today you can pull
out your camera. People will just stop on the street
and pull out their camera just to make sure that
everybody is being honest. And this is the end result

(01:59:46):
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
People, folks, We're going to restream that interview with the whispers.
I'm gonna ask. Let's see group right here. Let's see.
Let's see which one of y'all has any level of musicals,
the cation and taste. Uh won't be mad, I do,
of course, it's not gonna be Matt. Let's see.

Speaker 10 (02:00:06):
Okay, all right, Okay, like we are, do we remember
the whispers?

Speaker 1 (02:00:10):
We know that Eugene he probably ain't never look.

Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
Look, this is black music.

Speaker 23 (02:00:15):
Ro You know I can deep dive and them crazy
better like anybody else.

Speaker 1 (02:00:19):
Now, don't play me now, don't play me now. Okay,
I might be the channel. Okay, don't play give me,
give me two whisper songs.

Speaker 23 (02:00:27):
I got a live in rock study no, huh, said
O Livia in rock study.

Speaker 2 (02:00:33):
That's it, that's it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:35):
You got you got, Anthony got third. But that's why,
that's why I set it up by hitting you with
two first. No damn well, I hass wasn't three D
knew that I gonna go ahead?

Speaker 10 (02:00:50):
Oh yeah, No, I remember the Whispers. I grew up
listening to of them. My parents were playing the Whispers
uh uh in the house on the stereo.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
You know.

Speaker 24 (02:00:57):
I grew up in the seventies and eighties, and I
remember the eighties when they came out with rock Steady
and they came up with the other song and the
beat goes on. So I remember seeing those videos on
Friday Night, Friday Night Video. So some of us were
seeing the Whispers for the first time when they were
you know, reintroduced. They reintroduced to another introduced to another

(02:01:20):
generation us to say, but others, uh, you know, I
grew up listening to Al Green, the Whispers, Teddy pending Grass,
I live in Motown with the Motown sound, listen to
Sam Cook and Lou Raw so uh. But at the
same time, you know, I understand that I asked for
your whole musical pale music I asked for your musical pallet.

Speaker 10 (02:01:42):
Talking about whisper.

Speaker 1 (02:01:43):
I did not ask for your whole This is this
is talking about this is no, no, no, this is
we're talking about the.

Speaker 10 (02:01:53):
Michael.

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
It was a history all through a music. It's the whispers. Okay,
you got anything?

Speaker 22 (02:02:08):
Rather when I heard you was lost and turned out
like Olivia. I mean you feel me that it trying
to man, I know the whispers.

Speaker 1 (02:02:21):
You're trying to show no confunction. I know, I mean
to show you're trying to show us your Google skills.

Speaker 17 (02:02:28):
Man, I know that song.

Speaker 1 (02:02:30):
Okay, alright, you know I played Roland.

Speaker 17 (02:02:31):
Come on now you play played what I played many instruments,
several instruments.

Speaker 1 (02:02:37):
What I play keys?

Speaker 22 (02:02:39):
I played guitar, I played trumpet, I play bass.

Speaker 1 (02:02:42):
Really, we ain't seen no, we ain't seen no evidence
of any of that. Wa ain't seen no is they.

Speaker 17 (02:02:47):
I'm a brother of five office Infonia, I'm a brother
of a music fraternity.

Speaker 22 (02:02:51):
Oh, let's go, tru.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
I mean you could have been you could have been
packing the equipment and being in the fraternity. Here we go,
here we go, all right, I mean we ain't seen them.
We ain't seen no evidence of your musical ability. I'm
just simply saying, Hey, ask anybody who knows me.

Speaker 20 (02:03:06):
They'll tell you.

Speaker 22 (02:03:07):
It's all right.

Speaker 1 (02:03:09):
We don't know nobody who know you. I suppose that's
we can't ask nobody. Sorry again, folks, Caduless go out
to the family, Walter Scott, Cadoless go out to the
Whispers again, one of our iconic groups.

Speaker 14 (02:03:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:03:29):
And it was great to have them on the show
five years ago. It was great to finally meet them
in person last year. I'm glad I made that trip
to again. It was the last time I saw Frankie
Beverley last time. First time I've actually met them in
person as well, So it was great to be there.
All right, folks, that is it for us. Don't forget.
So here's the deal Monday. So elam, let me think Michael,

(02:03:51):
let me think Eugene, Let me think so called musical
genius Matt. We appreciate that I need to see some
evidence of these so called music skills. Uh and UH
so appreciate that, folks. Don't forget. Monday, eleven a m
we will be live right here on the Blackstar Network
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(02:04:12):
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(02:04:38):
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(02:05:00):
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(02:05:21):
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(02:05:42):
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