Senate Passes Trump’s Mega Spending Plan: Medicaid Cuts, Deportations & Wealthy Tax Breaks

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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The United States Senator has passed Donald Trump's sweeping tax
and spinning plan called the Big, Ugly Dangerous Bill. Guess what.
Massive medicaid cuts, massive cuts to food assistance, generous support

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to be talking to today, including Ken Martin, who runs
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Speaker 5 (02:07):
On this vote, the yea's are fifty, the nays are fifty,
the Senate being evenly divided, the Vice President votes, and
the affirmative The bill as amended is passed, Folks.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
After a contentious several days the United Nates States Senate,
the Republican majority there passed by a fifty one to
fifty vote Donald Trump's Big, ugly, dangerous bill. They call
it the big beautiful Bill, but the reality is when
you look at what it does, that is simply not
the case. Democrats force an entire reading of this particular bill.
Three Republicans voted against the bill, Senator Rampaul of Kentucky,

(02:46):
Senator Tom Tillis of North Carolina, Senator of Susan Collins
of Maine. But the critical vote Senator and Lisa Murkowski
of Alaska voted for the bill because of things that
she got for her state of Alaska. It now goes
to the state's House, where they have to reconcile the
Senate changes it previously passed the House. More than likely

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it is going to pass. Donald Trump was signed into law.
This is a hugely unpopular bill. Even the Fox News
poll shows nearly sixty percent of Americans against this bill.
Republicans don't care because Donald Trump wants it. Joining us
right now is Ken Martin. He is a chair of
Democratic National Committee. Glad to have you back on the show,
Chairman Martin. First and foremost, it was a battle there

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in the Senate and now go to the House. But
I got to ask you this here because I had
a problem with this. The other day. Senator John Fetterman
of Pennsylvania Democrat, was complaining that he was missing his
beach time with his family and this is just the
waste that Democrats are doing. He's going to vote no.
That makes no sense to me. My deal is, hey, man,
you're getting paid to be there, Stay there, meet with

(03:51):
those Republicans, try to convince and a vote against it.
This is all hands on debt. This ain't time to
be going to the beach. This is about us that
are going to impact low income people, working class people, food, medicaid.
You need everybody in your party fighting against.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
This well, absolutely, And first off, Roland, thanks for having
me on tonight, and.

Speaker 7 (04:14):
You're absolutely right. We need everyone in this fight right
now at this moment.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
This is one of the most damaging bills that we've
seen in over a half a century. As you mentioned,
it's one of the most unpopular bills, but unfortunately, the
damage it's going to do to communities far and wide
is tremendous, and it requires every one of us to
do our damn job to show up. You know, whether
you're a member of the Senate, whether you're a member
of the House, whether you're elected at all, everyone right
now should be rising up in unison with one voice

(04:40):
saying what we're seeing out of Congress right now is unacceptable.
And so you know, I have no patience for Democrats
who serve in any elected office right now, in this moment,
when there are so many lives that are going to
be shattered as a consequence of this big, ugly, dangerous bill,
as you called it, it requires all of us to
do everything we can right now to stop it dead

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in its tracks.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
When you start breaking this thing down, Republicans keep saying, oh, no,
we're not cutting medicaid. Their own center Tom Tilli is
broken down on the floor saying that's a lie. They
are indeed cutting Medicaid, and well, I don't understand. Look,
I'm purposely wearing this shirt right here. This is the
Yellow jackis West Virginia State University is an HBCU. I

(05:22):
was there in Charleston, West Virginia. West Virginia is one
of those states where you have a lot of I
just cut to the Chase Broke, illiterate, bad health, largely
white conservatives. They keep voting for Republicans, voting against their interests.
Places like West Virginia are going to be hurt by

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this bill. Alabama, where you got two Republican centers, They're
going to be hurt by this bill. Mississippi hurt by
this bill. South Carolina hurt by this bill. But those
Republican senators don't care. They're voting for the massive tax
cuts for the rich incorporated.

Speaker 6 (06:01):
Well that's exactly right, right, Roland. And look, I call
it the big ugly betrayal. The reality is the Republicans
have betrayed the American people. I want you to think
about this as it relates to working people in this country.
And we know this from the National Building Trades who
came out opposed to this. This bill is going to
cost one point seventy five million jobs. This is one

(06:21):
of the biggest job killing bills we've seen in recent memory.
As it relates to seniors. They betrayed our seniors. Over
a quarter of nursing homes are actually going to close
because of this bill. They betrayed our children. We know
that there are many children out there who rely on
nutrition programs who are starving already, who are going to
starve even more because Republicans have betrayed them.

Speaker 7 (06:42):
They betrayed our seniors. Think about this.

Speaker 6 (06:44):
Over a quarter of nursing homes in this country right now,
as I mentioned, are going to close down.

Speaker 7 (06:50):
They have betrayed the disabled in this country.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
Seventeen million people are going to be kicked off of
their health insurance of healthcare. Many of those folks are disabled.
They betrayed rural communities. Three hundred hospitals, many of them
in rural communities, are going to close down. And they
betrayed the black community. Forty percent of the Black community

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receives Medicaid in some form and they're going to be
kicked off of their healthcare. Two thirds of births in
the Black community are provided with some form of medicaid,
and of course that's going to be impacted now. So
I say all of this because it has dramatic impacts
all throughout this country and rural communities and suburban communities

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and urban.

Speaker 7 (07:38):
Communities across the country.

Speaker 6 (07:41):
This is going to be a devastating bill, and that's
why you see widespread opposition. It's not just Democrats who
are opposed or independent voters, it's even Republican voters. This
is the most unpopular bill in the history of this country,
and we still have time to defeat it.

Speaker 7 (07:56):
If folks want.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
To get involved right now in helping the Democratic Party
defeat this bill, you can text summer Summer till four three,
three six seven and join us in our efforts to
organize against this destructive bill.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
One of the things that jumps out, I'm a firm
believer in not wasting energy, not wasting time. First, before
I get to that the point that you just made
it there, the electricians in this country IBEW go to
my iPad. At least they released their statement blasting this bill,
talking about how it's gonna hurt them. Same thing you

(08:31):
mentioned the National North America Building Trades Union. But let
me just go ahead and cut to the chase here,
Chairman Martin, A whole bunch of the white men in
these unions they voted for Trump. They voted for Trump
because they said they were down with MAGA. And I
keep making this point that listen, Democrats are going to
have to have some real, frank, honest conversations with white

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people in this country who vote against their interests. Now,
as an African American, conservatives love telling me, I don't
understand what a black people gotten from Democrats in the
last sixty years. You've voting against your own interests. Seventy
percent of the people who voted in the last election,
white Americans, and these folks still workers, build trade unions, electricians,

(09:15):
all sitting here, go on Trump, Trump, Trump. Now they're
crying because all of those construction jobs, clean energy, those
multimillion dollar plants, and looking the bill, these companies are saying,
we're not going to build them now because we don't
have any certainty from the federal government. So when it
comes to evs, when it comes to solar technology created

(09:35):
by Americans, and they keep saying we don't want China
to dominate, this is going to guarantee China to dominate.
How do you tell your party, your members in the House,
in a Senate, on a state level, on the county,
on the city level, that they're going to have to
look some folks in the eye that look like you
and not me and say, why do you keep voting
against your interests when we're the ones being Democrats who

(09:58):
are passing the bills actually affect the laugh for the better.

Speaker 7 (10:03):
Well, I think you said it best.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
We got to be honest and have those honest conversations,
because guess what. Donald Trump promised those very same voters
that you're talking about that he was going to improve
their lives, he was going to make their lives more affordable,
it was actually going to make a difference in their communities.

Speaker 7 (10:18):
And he's done none of that.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
Actually, this bill he is pushing forward to help his
already rich friends, the richest people in this country, who
are going to benefit from massive tax breaks at the
expense of working people, at the expense of people who
voted for Donald Trump, who thought that he actually had
their best interests in mind, who thought they were actually
that he would actually deliver for their families and for

(10:42):
their communities. He's done none of that. He is essentially
making your life much more difficult, all to give a
tax break to those who already have so much in
our communities and so much in society. It's just plain wrong,
and we do have to You're absolutely right, there are
many people who are in this country who have and
continue to vote against their own economic self interest.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
And let me tell you something.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
You know what, we can continue to talk until we're
blue in the face, but unfortunately, these very people who
are going to be impacted their lives are going to
be devastated, and hopefully they start to wake up and
they look in the mirror and say, you know what,
maybe it wasn't the right thing for us to vote
for Donald Trump and these Republicans who've shown no interest
in any step of the way here. And it's not
just Donald Trump, by the way, it's all of the

(11:25):
Republicans who voted for this, which is almost every single
one of them voted against their constituents. And you can
be damn sure that we're going to remind those constituents
in every Republican congressional district and in every Republican Senate
race next year, we're going to remind their constituents that
their member of Congress or their member in the US
Senate voted against them and their families.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
So right now, I've got a couple moments with you,
So right now, in terms of the plan, what I
say to folks is the waste of energy right now
if you're trying to call your Democratic officials, go to
the House. You got about twelve to seventeen House seats
that are purple or places that buy and one are
y'all targeting those members? Are you saying? Because look, it

(12:09):
barely passed the House the first time? So what is
the strategy here? What are you saying to people how
they should be channeling their energy? Who are the five
or ten Republican House members that people should be calling
and emailing and hitting right now saying, don't you dare
vote for this bill? Do y'all have a night?

Speaker 6 (12:28):
Well, listen, if you text Summer su mme r to
four three three six seven, you sign up to help
us right now because we're targeting thirty five congressional districts
right now to make sure that we're increasing the pressure
on those vulnerable Republicans.

Speaker 7 (12:42):
And the thing is rowand you.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Know where we started out probably with a more a
smaller and narrower list of targets at the beginning of
this year. We have been able to expand out that
map because we're seeing there's win at our back right
now that this bill is highly unpopular, and of course
as a result of us overperforming, it means that we
can actually focus our efforts on more Republicans around the country.

(13:08):
Thirty five Republicans right now are in vulnerable districts, and
we want to put all of our effort into turning
the pressure up in those districts to make sure that
they get the message that, you know what, you better
vote the right way on this because if you don't,
we're coming for your job and we're going to boot
you out of your out of office.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
So I say a thirteen to seventeen, So you're saying
there are thirty five Republican House seats that y'all are
targeting to get them to vote no against this bill.

Speaker 8 (13:35):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
And so just for folks to know, if you text
Summer to four three three six seven, give me a
second so I can show this because I literally just
did it, So hold on one second. And so this
is if you go four three three sixty seven, this
is the message you're going to get back. DNC Headquarters.
Thanks for signing up with periodic updates about our work.
Keeping eye on your inbox for more soon and then

(14:00):
it says thank you for stepping up to join organizing
summer signer for our kickoff on Wednesday, July. Second only thing,
the only thing I would suggest, Chair, is that message
is changed saying stop the big, ugly dangerous bill right now.
That is a lot more immediate language. That's just me
as if I'm messaging, I'm probably gonna be a little
bit more specific and not general.

Speaker 7 (14:22):
Well, that's what I like about you, Roland.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
I appreciate the good advice there, But nonetheless, this will
get you involved in our efforts to actually fight against
this bill and to make sure that we're turning up
the pressure on these Republicans.

Speaker 7 (14:33):
Don't believe all the pundits.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
This is not a done deal yet, but the Republicans
in the Senate certainly followed in fell in line. We
have an opportunity to defeat this in the House right now.
So get involved, roll up your sleeves. If you actually
want to see this bill defeated. We still have time
to do it. Please join us in our efforts.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Chairman Ken Martin DNC. We She'll appreciate it. Look for
having you back. Thanks a lot, Thanks you all, folks.
Gotta go to break we come back with my also
again this hour, we have Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott on
talking about the impact on cities of this particular bill.
We'll also talk to Congress from Shaw and tel Brown
in the next hour, the impact on Ohio, especially folks

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when it comes to Medicaid, and Democratic House Leader how
King Jeffers will explain to us his strategy on trying
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Speaker 1 (16:26):
All right, folks, joining us right now. Doctor Mistapha Santiago,
I lead, former Senior Advisor for Environmental Justice at the EPA,
out of DC. Randon Bryant, entrepreneur, author of Never says
twenty five phrases you should never ever say to keep
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rights attorney, out of La Glad. They have all three
of you here. The stuff I want to start with you.
This bill here absolutely devastating to environmentalists. Of Republicans are

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all about fossil fuels. They are all about these big
gas companies. They don't give a damn about electric vehicles.
They don't care about any of this sort of stuff,
and so they are trying to roll back even have
even have a tax on stuff already done. And the
reason that those trade unions and electricians are mad is

(17:11):
because there were multi billion dollar total manufacturing plants we're
going to be built. Now, all of those are going
to come to a halt if they repeal these tax
incentives for solar, wind and other renewable energies.

Speaker 10 (17:29):
Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, you hit it on
the head.

Speaker 8 (17:31):
You know.

Speaker 10 (17:32):
I looked at some numbers the other day. We spend
one point one trillion dollars in relationship just to extreme
heat and the impacts that have been going on there.
So when they make these cuts, they're cutting a number
of environmental programs and Department of Energy programs that actually
help us to address the climate crisis. They also help
us to address the health impacts that are happening inside

(17:54):
of our most vulnerable community. So when we talk about
jobs and justice in the environment, all these things actually
come together because, as you said, there were all these
deals that were put in place to have advanced manufacturing
not only come back and be enhanced inside of our
country with the jobs that were a part of all
this clean energy work, but it also had the benefit

(18:17):
of helping to improve the environment, to improve people's health,
and to limit or begin to minimize some of these
impacts that are going on. So what this big, you know,
big brutal bill has actually done is put a cross
hair on folks. They're cutting climate programs, they're cutting clean
air programs, they're cutting clean water programs, all the things

(18:38):
that are necessary for people to be able to survive,
let alone thrive, and they're doing it without any concern
for people's lives, for the wealth gap that existed. There
are models out there that have been put in place
to help in certain areas to address the wealth gaps
by bringing manufacturing opportunities and new entrepreneurial actions in place,

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along with the number of other entities that were going
to be in place. So what what they continue to
do is to weaken not sorry, that's not true. They
are slashing the social safety net inside of our country,
both in this moment and of course all the things
that we needed to do to get prepared for the
impacts that are coming over the next decade.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
If you're not a Republican donor ready, they don't give
a damn about you. It's simple as that there and
look at look as here we talk about those those mandates.
His were so crazy. Elon Musk now is going against
this bill. Elon Musk said, oh, we should create a
whole new political party and stop this whole bill. Well,
guess what we tried to tell you. You're the one who

(19:37):
backed Trump, You're the one who spent three hundred million dollars.
You're the one who used Twitter to build up Donald
Trump and help him win, And so he was lying
to you the whole damn time his love of electric vehicles.
Remember the whole thing in front of the White House
that turned into a car dealership. Now Trump puts this
on social media. At least go to my ipady. Elon
musk knew long before he's so strongly and doors be president,

(20:00):
that I was strongly against the ev mandate. It is
ridiculous and was always a major part of my campaign.
Electric cars are fined, but not everyone should be forced
to own one. Elon may get more subsidy than any
human being in history by far, and without subsidies, Elon
would probably have to close up shop and head back
home to South Africa. No more rocket launches, satellites or
electric car production, and our country would save a fortune.

(20:23):
Perhaps we should have those take a good heart look
at this big money to be saved. And so we
see exactly what he is saying about that. In fact,
that particular point this fool was walking around with his
Gulf of America hat. And this is what he said
outside of the White House before flying to Florida for
that stupid news conference with the ice Barbie, Christy Nom

(20:45):
and the alligator Alcatraz that Ronda sammers his building in Florida.
Listening to this rest, we.

Speaker 11 (20:51):
Got a lot of oshas just back.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
So we're gonna injection about.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
As I watched the banker. Look, we might have to
put joj in Eli. You know, you know Joji Joji
is the monster that has that might have to.

Speaker 6 (21:09):
Go back and eat Elon. We might be there Abo.

Speaker 12 (21:12):
He gets a lot of subsidies, Peter.

Speaker 13 (21:15):
But Eli's very upset that the ev mandate he's gonna
be terminated.

Speaker 10 (21:20):
And you know what, when you look at it, who
wants not everybody wants an electric car.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
I don't want to electric car.

Speaker 12 (21:27):
I want to have baby.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
The rest we get a lot of He said, I
want to let your car, but you claim you bought
one in front of the White House. He's full of crap, Randy.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
He's absolutely full of crap.

Speaker 14 (21:38):
We saw the commercial, we talked about it on the
show where he was literally pushing the Tesla and when
he talks about that Musk has all these subsidies.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
And programs, who gave those to him? I mean, it's
really interesting to see how they've turned on each other.
I mean, the girls are fighting. It is a cat fight.

Speaker 14 (21:59):
And you know, he's even saying he's going to turn
Doge against him, which Doge was from Musk. So it
is so interesting and they're really trying to figure out
who has what power. But it also shows that Trump
is loyal to no one. And so how Republicans who
have no money because you said, you said something powerful
when you said they only care about Republican donors, and

(22:20):
that's absolutely right, Not Republicans generally, but Republican donors, people
who have money, people who can help him and his
cause and his billionaire frat pack brat pack.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
And so they don't care about anybody else.

Speaker 14 (22:34):
And so if he is going to turn his back
on Musk, then everyone should pick up that he will
absolutely turn his back on them. And they're in trouble,
just like we're we're feeling it and seeing it. Everybody
is in big trouble. I was, you know, thinking about
today how so many Republicans are Trumplicans.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Backed this bill and are are are you know, Trump pretenate?

Speaker 14 (22:59):
But there are more people affected by the cuts to Medicaid,
more Republicans than our Democrats as a whole.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
But they still don't even seem to get that.

Speaker 14 (23:09):
They still are backing him and touting, you know, the
benefits of Trump. It's so confusing to me the level
of the lack of knowledge that these people seem to have.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
And it seems as if Trump Trump is truly their daddy.

Speaker 14 (23:22):
If Trump says it's good, they believe it's good and
they don't need to research it whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Absolutely, the thing here, when you start unpacking this bill,
for unpacking the things in it, they literally went back
and made more snap cuts. You have people in this country, Joe,
who are starving, who we produce so much food, we
are an obese nation. Yet we have no problem letting

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folks starve by saying, oh, no, the average four dollars
or six dollars a day that spent on food boxes
for these folks, Oh, that's just way too much. We
would rather give billions and tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires.
We would rather allow these companies to spend even fewer

(24:10):
money on taxes as a result. Damn all of you
people with food insecurity.

Speaker 11 (24:18):
Yeah, I mean, what this bill guarantees is that people
on the top will continue to do well.

Speaker 7 (24:25):
You know.

Speaker 13 (24:25):
It's that whole trickle town thing where nothing ever trickles.

Speaker 11 (24:28):
Actually, and meanwhile, there's a whole lot of money going
to immigration, customs and Immigration enforcement, forty six point five
billion to customs and then thirty billion ties so that
he can continue this first of making us safer by

(24:49):
shipping out a million people this year, and so Medicaid slashed.
People are going to die because of this bill. People
are not going to have the healthcare that they need
because of this bill on a large, large scale. And
again to contend it's gonna add to the definitive, it's not.

(25:11):
It's not like you're you're saving money. Uh, and you're
and you're making this this cost analysis. Oh we're saving money.
We'll lose a few people when we're saying no, they
can't even say we're saving money. They claim that we are,
but we're not saving money. It's gonna cost three or
four trillion dollars in the debt ultimately.

Speaker 8 (25:27):
And so it is a serious, serious problem.

Speaker 11 (25:29):
And what I'm hoping is that this awakens people of
all political hues to really understand once and for all
that Trump is not thinking about you at all unless
you have major resources, unless you are direct beneficiary of
this bill. And there's just a few people that are

(25:50):
Those are the ones that these thinks about and nobody else.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah, that's the key. And again I would I would
love with these people to truly show me how lead
ordinary people are going to benefit from this bill. I've
yet to see it, of Mustafa, that's.

Speaker 10 (26:07):
Because you can't see it because it doesn't exist. You know,
you had started the show given a shout out to
West Virginia State. My family went going there for one
hundred years. But let's just talk about rural communities real quickly.
You know, it is estimated that over six hundred rural
hospitals across our country will now have to shut their doors.
And if you come from royal communities like I do,

(26:27):
that means that you've got a great distance to try
and travel to be able to find the additional healthcare
you might need. We also have already been talking about
all these cuts that are going to happen, you know,
to Medicaid and some of the other things in our
communities and in many lower wealth white communities, there is
an epidemic that's going on around hypertension that's going on

(26:48):
in relationship to a number of other diabetes, a number
of the diseases. So if you can't get to healthcare
because you no longer have the infrastructure that's there because
of these cuts, then, as Joe said, a whole lot
of people are going to die. If you come from
a rural community, you understand it when it comes to
education that many of the schools are just barely hanging

(27:08):
on by a thread.

Speaker 7 (27:09):
But now they're going to.

Speaker 10 (27:10):
Make all these cuts to education as well. So for
all the folks who voted for him, who will come
from rural communities, or who even didn't vote for him,
who come from rural communities, you are also in the crosshairs.
They often try and you know, ghetta wise, you know
certain things by saying well, that's just the urban issue,
it's just the word that they use when they don't
want to talk about black folks. The impacts that are

(27:32):
going to happen to black folks are devastating. The impacts
that are going to happen to lower wealth white communities
are devastating. You know, there'll be all these jobs that
folks had, you know, hope would be in place, that
are no longer going to be there. So you get
these double and triple whammies that are going on in
vulnerable communities across their country. And that's the reason when
you ask that question, Roland, why you can't see it,

(27:52):
it is because it doesn't exist. It never exists. This
was always a facade. They placed the veneer of the
flag over top of this, telling peoples big, big and
beautiful and bold and all these other types of things,
when what they really should have said is to put
a label on it, warning, this will actually shorten your lives,
This will take resources away from your communities, and this
will never help you address the wealth gap that many

(28:13):
communities across our country are dealing with.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
So what you have here, you have this sort of
this constant, this constant back and forth Randy on, oh,
how amazing this is and this is going to unleash
the golden era of America. You see Marshall Blackburn and
others spouting that nonsense on how this is just going

(28:37):
to be just stunning and amazing and we're just going
to have all of this rush of money coming into
the country. You have fed Chair Powell who said that
they would have cut interest rates by now if Donald
Trump had not imposed his terrorfs. Then you have these
people gushing, Oh, look at all this new money that

(28:57):
came in with terrriffs. But they're not counting all of
the money that these corporations have lost, small businesses have
lost as a result of the tariffs. And so when
you just start breaking down these things, in fact, the
folks as the tail go to my iPad, they had
this here. They said, of the seven worst things in
Trump's new tax and policy package, Randy, they lay out

(29:18):
number one, biggest Medicaid cuts in history. They got number two.
ICE school become the highest funding federal law enforcement agency.
They're talking about making cuts to other agencies, but they
don't want to talk about what's happening here. And what's
so crazy when you look at the deportation numbers of Trump,
Biden and Obama. Biden and Obama deported more people in

(29:42):
the same time span than Trump is doing. But ICE
is already a billion dollars over their budget. What the
hell are they doing? Oh, they're kicking all this money
out to bounty hunters and others who are not actual
law enforcement.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Folk, right, and building the prisons.

Speaker 14 (29:59):
I mean, I don't think people understand how much money
is made through these private prisons, and they.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Want it set up that way. They want these people
to make more money. ICE is not about just you know,
stopping these illegal.

Speaker 14 (30:13):
Aliens that people try to say, because like you said,
they have it. He has not done more deportations than
our former presidents. It's about show, but it's also about
making rich people richer. And one way they do that
is for the privatization of prisons and these bounty hunter hunters.
And they're also doing it to divide the country and

(30:34):
to ensure that some people are seen as the good
guys and bad guys.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
And so we're distracted.

Speaker 14 (30:39):
If you can get people to be angry about and
fearful about illegal immigrants, which you know, you know, calling
calling people illegal and saying all of them are criminal,
they're not. They're not paying attention to the real criminals,
one of whom they put in the highest office of
the United States of America. Right, that's where the real
criminal activit is happening.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
So, you know, it's very interesting to me how.

Speaker 14 (31:03):
People are going to are so hateful that and and
Trump and his people feel that hate and give this
great make us be scared of people that we should
not be frightened of, and.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Take the attention off of the people we should be
afraid of.

Speaker 14 (31:18):
And they're just going and paying attention to these marketing efforts,
like you say, saying things are going to be so great,
when all they're doing is funneling money to make rich
people richer. And at the end of the day, as
everyone has said on this panel, people are going to
die and suffer.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
The healthcare system already was suffering in this country, but
now it is really going to hit home.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
I mean, this is crazy, Joe. We've seen this before
when when these rural estates we're not expanding Medicaid coverage.
So check this out. This is a story from the
Fox Affilate in Indiana. These twelve rural Indiana hospitals could
be at risk under Trump's big, beautiful bial. This was
posted just yesterday, June thirty. Now keep in mind the

(32:03):
two United States Senators from Indiana, Jim Banks Todd Young,
both Republicans, they voted for the bill. And look at
this here. State lawmakers there are saying that rural hospitals
in Indiana could be at risk due to Medicaid cuts.
Now Josh Holey of Missouri, who was yelling and screaming about,
oh my goodness, house can be impacted. What do you say,

(32:24):
rural hospitals are going to be in bad shape? That
was last week, yet he still voted for the bill.
Others sit Lester Trump saying three hundred and thirty eight
US hospitals will be impacted by the Medicaid reductions. And
so lack of rural health care access, lack of health
care access and rule Americas contribute to worse health outcomes. Now,

(32:45):
these four Senators Ed Markey, Ron White, and Jeff Berkeley,
Charles Schumer of all Democrats. Research done by the University
of North Carolina state Trump won. And so Trump doesn't
give a damn, but they lay up these twelve hospitals.
So Louisiana, every health system in Louisiana. Lettera dude speaker
Mike Johnson saying, Hey, our hospitals in Louisiana gonna be impacted,

(33:10):
But the Republican senators and the House members don't care.
This is where Democrats you heard me say, Ken Martin,
they should be going all out saying, guess what when
they threw this cut and hospitals close down, they should
be they should be holding news conference in front. And
every time somebody has to now travel fifty sixty seventy

(33:30):
miles to get to a hospital and unfortunately passes away,
they should simply say Trump, you killed that woman, Speaker Johnson,
you killed that man. To the Republican senator in the
state you voted, you let that person's death, pure and simple.
We've seen it before. It's gonna happen again. People need help.

Speaker 11 (33:51):
And so while we can say that, you know, we
don't like what's going on right now, of course, I
mean that goes, that goes without saying and all of
the things that the Republicans seem to be doing, voting
against the answers to their constituentsy, but.

Speaker 8 (34:05):
This is not the first time, you know, we've been
here before.

Speaker 11 (34:09):
Republicans tend to be the ones that cut medical you know,
for people that actually needed you know, many Republican governors
didn't want to take that medicaid expansion. Several of them did,
but more of them didn't. Several of them didn't that shouldn't.
So we've kind of been here before. So it's interesting,
like what line do you cross where you suddenly become

(34:30):
righteously indignant. The Republicans have been doing things like this
for some time, and we know that typically speaking, generally speaking,
policies that affect the least.

Speaker 8 (34:43):
Of us are tend to be ones that are advanced by.

Speaker 11 (34:46):
Republicans despite themselves. And this is what's happening again. And
so now what the Democrats really have to do is
they've got to get the word out so people truly
understand where this comes from, because that's ridiculous, as.

Speaker 15 (35:00):
As he is to you or me.

Speaker 8 (35:02):
They're the blame Democrats for this. They're the blame Dimocrats
for this. He's still talking about Biden. Biden.

Speaker 11 (35:07):
Is that Biden is in Trump's head like he's doing
something to him and he's not, and he continues talking
about him. Oh, this is responsible and the other No,
we have to make sure that they own this because
they did it. Republican president, Republican sidate, Republican House. They
made a decision despite many of their own constituencies saying

(35:29):
that they shouldn't.

Speaker 8 (35:30):
And we have to make sure that they never.

Speaker 11 (35:32):
Forget that, and particularly that the people don't forget that,
and that they are motivated enough to make sure that
they vote because we are in a time of emergency.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
See, let me tell you some of y'all are sitting
here seeing right now. Oh, here you go, here you go.
Oh my goodness, you're trying to scare us. You're talking
about the Democrats are doing. Let me help y'all out.
NACPA that had the convention in Las Vegas, and I
was sitting here interview in Bishop William Barber. When I

(36:02):
was interviewing Bishop William Barber, he talked about North Carolina,
and he said that they had a parade in North Carolina,
and he said, an old red thatck came up to
him with a Confederate flag draped around his neck. And
he walked up to him and he said, Bishop Barber,
it's a whole lot you and I don't agree on,
he said, And all of a sudden, a tear gets

(36:25):
tears a forming in this guy's eyes. He said, but
I want to thank you for fighting for our royal hospitals.
He was an old red neck in North Carolina. Bishop
Barbara said, Now he had that Confederate flag draped around
his neck. He said, now I'm gonna eventually get him
to take that flag down, he said. But the fact
that he was recognizing that Moral Monday's in North Carolina,

(36:47):
they were not just fighting for black people, they were
fighting for white folks in North Carolina too, And all
of a sudden, that message beginning to spread, and Moral
Mondays North Carolina grew into a massive movement because white
folks in North Carolina, police officers, firefighters, teachers, public workers,
folks on medicaid, folks on food assistants were realizing that

(37:09):
they were fighting against the cuts that were impacting them.
So our conversation all today, oh yeah, we're talking to
four Democrats because the Republicans are the ones supporting this bill.
They're the ones voting for this bill. They control the House,
they control the Senate, they control the White House, and
the folks who are fighting it are Democrats. But I'm

(37:30):
telling y'all right now, y'all need to understand. People are
going to die. More people are going to die due
to starvation if this bill becomes law. More people are
going to die because hospitals they it's not they might close,
they are going to close. It is going to happen.
And when all these things happen. You know what's gonna

(37:52):
happen all the fuck with money. They gonna be in
Saint Bart's, They're gonna be in the French Riviera. They're
gonna be kicking it, chilling, they gonna be taking private jess.
They're gonna be having fun on their yachts while other
folk are literally going to be dying. If you want
to accuse us of being Democrats shields and trying to

(38:12):
scare people, go right ahead, but I'm telling you it
becomes law six months from now. A year from now,
we're gonna be saying we tried to tell you going
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Speaker 1 (40:36):
Folks, because of these cuts in this big, ugly, dangerous bill,
cities are going to be impacted. Showing us right now
is the Mayor of Baltimore, Brandon Scott and Miryer Glad
to have you back on the show. First of all,
has have you and your team been doing an assessment
on how Baltimore is going to be negatively impacted if
this bill that the Senate passed today now goes back

(40:56):
to the House, if it actually becomes law.

Speaker 20 (40:59):
Yeah, and we basically roll in every city in the
country is going to be impacted in a devastating way.
Are you're talking about a city that has eleven hospitals
in it and when you talk about that kind of
of cut to Medicaid and what that will mean not
just for our residents who seek and care, but for
their jobs and where they work.

Speaker 15 (41:20):
This is the largest cut to medicate in the history
of this country.

Speaker 20 (41:25):
When you talk about one point three trillion dollars and
a cut to food and assistance and health coverage, while
given the wealthiest of the wealthy one point three trillion
and tax breaks, you're talking about cutting people's ability off
to eat and provide basic needs for their families. It's
going to be a devastating thing to cities like Baltimore,

(41:47):
And as you just said in your earliest segment, I
think people need to understand how deep these cuts are
and what's happening here. This isn't about right size and
the budget. This isn't about trimming fact. This is about
things that are going to literally let people die. This
is about cutting the basic social service fabric of this country,

(42:10):
programs that have been put in place for decades, programs
quite frankly, as you said, that benefit his base, the
President's base.

Speaker 15 (42:19):
More than anyone else. And these things are going to
be taking away.

Speaker 20 (42:23):
And that's on top of, of course, all the other
pulling back of grants, pulling back of funding, challenging, that's
challenging anything that's not kyletot to their short and narrow
minded ways of belief and when you talk about the
public safety aspects, right when you talk about the growth
in ice and how the other agencies are now being

(42:43):
pulled in to do this immigration work, you're talking about
something that's very dangerous. For a group of people who
say all the time they want to drive down crime,
especially in democratic cities, you don't see them talking about
that right now, because I can speak from my perspective,
we have a fifty year low in the city. But
having federal law enforcement agents pulled off of their work

(43:05):
that they're doing to stop gun tracking and stop violent
drug organizations to carry out some of these deportations, it's
also putting people's public safety at risk. If the big
hideous bill passes, it also will make it easier for
people to get weapons and things that quite frankly, they
shouldn't have. This bill is big, it's hideous, and it's

(43:26):
detrimental to every single fabric of American life.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Absolutely, and again, when you start going through this and
you start again looking at the various things in it,
we literally are talking about the social safety net in
this country. And it's utterly illogical to sit here and say, oh, yeah,

(43:51):
folks who are in the top one percent of the country.
They deserve more. And when you look at the estate
tax stuff, when you look at all of this, then
when you talk about, even when they love talking about
attack on the capital gains, let's be real clear. The
folk who there are people who are so rich they
live off of the capital gains because that's money that's

(44:14):
not even being taxed. So they have the ability and
ain't people listening to what I'm talking about. They have
the ability to go to a bank or somewhere else
and live off of lines of credit because their capital
gains are gonna pay that off. And so they can
have millions and millions of dollars that they're sitting off
of and living a high life for capital gains. And

(44:36):
then they say, well, because they're not actually paying because
they're not taking a salary. So when elon must goes, well,
my salary is zero. You can take a zero salary
when your company is giving you for the five hundred
million or billions in stock and a sentis you can

(44:58):
do that.

Speaker 15 (44:59):
But a lot of Americans can't.

Speaker 20 (45:01):
Right, And you're talking about this big hideous bill also
increasing energy bills by hundreds of dollars for Americans across
the country. At the same time while making it harder
for them to eat and provide the things that they
need for their family forces one and for nursing homes
in this country to close its doors. Right, this big
hideous bill ruling is unpopular with Republicans and Democrats. This

(45:25):
is an attack when American society and democracy and everyone
should be calling it out for what it is.

Speaker 15 (45:32):
So like you said, people should be.

Speaker 20 (45:34):
Showing up hospitals when they close, people should be showing
up in nursing homes when they goes. Peacele s would
be showing up when people are standing outside of food
pantries and other things and saying this does not and
did not have to happen. But people were cowering in fear,
especially on the Republican side, in fear doing something that
it knew would hurt the people that they were elected

(45:55):
to work for and to protect and to lift up,
simply because they're scared of the president and the folks
around them.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
A few more questions and actually, actually, but I'm gonna
say say that, let me go to my panel with
them asking questions. Ready, Brown, your.

Speaker 14 (46:10):
First first of our brother, I just want to congratulate
you on all that you have accomplished in Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
I was reading today about you know, the decrease in homicide,
what do you say a fifty year low?

Speaker 20 (46:25):
That is, so the low are lower six months on
record and homicides in the city's history.

Speaker 14 (46:35):
So what can you do, I mean, when you have
something like this happening, what can you do to prepare
to protect Baltimore? And so the impact isn't as great.

Speaker 15 (46:45):
Yeah, I think that. Listen.

Speaker 20 (46:46):
We obviously here in Maryland we also have our fabulous
estate governmental about fabulous governor or governor more all of us.

Speaker 15 (46:54):
We have to do everything that we can to fill gaps.

Speaker 20 (46:57):
But if we're going to be honest, and I think
this is the conversation that I had with my counsel
before they passed my budget and I had with my residents,
that if this bill passes and goes into law, they
will be things that will be very devastating to the
City of Baltimore because no city we have to be
franking on it, No city and no state can fill
all of those gaps. That means that we're going to

(47:19):
have to dig into we have to dig into our
rainy day funds. In some instances, that means that we're
going to have to make tough decisions about programs and
things that we are doing or things that we wanted
to start, that we might have to reset and level
set to try to help fill some basic things for
our residents. But this is the conversation that every mayor

(47:40):
is having around the country, and obviously for us, when
there are things that we know are direct attacks on
us and things that we can do, we are not
afraid to take that.

Speaker 15 (47:49):
To court and fight it there as well.

Speaker 11 (47:52):
Thank you, Joe, appreciate your mayor congratulations on the things
that you aren't doing, very similar to other mayors, including
the mayor of Chicago whose crime is down and people
don't talk about that enough. Let me ask you this,
you know, kind of building on Randy's question, and it
sounds like you've answered it in terms of talking about

(48:16):
having honest conversation with your residents. Do you feel like
your residents are receiving the message of the urgency of
what's going on right now and how do we build
on that, particularly as it pertains to voter participation and
some of these other things.

Speaker 20 (48:35):
No, I think here and listen, I know it's different
for me because I'm in what everyone called deep Blue Maryland. Right,
our residents here and understand, but also here they feel
that because obviously we have bared the brunt of the
cuts to a federal jobs and agencies. This is where
most of the federal jobs are. Folk workers are here

(48:55):
in Maryland. Over a thousand of them live in the
city of Baltimore. Proper, our residents have already been so
deeply impacted and already a keen and feeling that. So
we don't have to sell them on it because it's
been impacting them since the first day of the administration.
But I think what we have to do a better
job of doing is making sure that everywhere everybody understands that.

(49:20):
And as Rolling pointed out earlier, we also need to
start challenging folks in those places that did vote for
the Karen president and let them know that, listen, what.

Speaker 15 (49:29):
Are they going to do now when the things that
they need are cut?

Speaker 20 (49:34):
Are are folks willing to just turn a blind eye
to someone who is literally trying to starve them out
of their life in order to protect some of the
things that they like to protect, including the good old
fashioned American race that we've seen them protect time and
time again.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Thanks Mustapha, Well Mayor Scott.

Speaker 10 (49:55):
First of all, like everybody else said, a great job
so far. No, it's not always easy. I got a
too part for you. The first part is around education,
and we understand that there are some cuts happening. I've
actually helped in some of the schools there in Baltimore
around environmental on science issues. Can you talk a little
bit about, you know, from the beginning, from headstart all
the way up, how you're going to navigate the cuts

(50:17):
that are going to be happening in relationship to education.
And then I hope you could wrap it up around
community because when we have these tough times, community is
so incredibly important, and maybe you could talk a little
bit about what your vision is strengthening community there in Baltimore.

Speaker 15 (50:33):
Yeah, I think there are a few things.

Speaker 20 (50:34):
When you talk about the education, I think we know
what's happening there can also be devastating, right, we have
been blessed to not have some of the deep cuts
that we've seen in other places. We're also here in
Maryland coming into this the peer implementation of a law
passing now state called the Blueprint for Maryland's Future, which
pours in billions and billions of dollars into our public

(50:57):
education system. My budget that I just passed that went
into effect today on the first of July, actually puts
the largest amounts of Baltimore City money into our public
school system ever, and we.

Speaker 15 (51:13):
Have to continue to do that.

Speaker 20 (51:15):
But when we see the things that they're attacking at
the federal level, we have to as much as possible
at the state level, and of course with education and
at the local level, fill out how we can deal
our own policies, how we can change our own things,
how we can build those things ourselves, and try to
replace as much as possible. We saw that this summer
with some of the cuts that they made to some

(51:37):
of the funding, and we have to pivot here in
the city and be able to have our own programming,
also still being able to provide eighty five hundred young
people with summer job, still having over seventeen hundred young
people credit or recovery, and have three thousand other young
people still working in programs in our school system, not

(51:58):
to mention our summer camps. This is the time where
local and state governments are going to have to lead
the way in every way possible. But they cannot do
that with our community. And I think when we're at
a time like this and we're seeing it around some
of these issues, this is a time where people have
to come together. This is the time I've been telling everyone,
as someone who's not up up on the ballot in

(52:20):
the upcoming year, this is the time where everybody has
to put aside in Maryland and Baltimore and beyond, put
aside all the petty, stupid personal beach, the political beach,
all of that. Right now, we should have one shared
goh and that goal is to make sure that we
are fighting these folks that are trying to destroy American

(52:41):
democracy and make sure that we're united and standing up
and leaving all the other things to be settled at
a later time.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Here's a perfect example here, Mary last point here and
Randon had brought up the issue that I was going
to raise. That is the success y'all had with dropping
the crime rate. And so I'm glad to addressed that.
This is NBC News to my iPad. At least they
lay out winners corporations. The legislation would make permanent trillions
of dollars in corporate tax cuts, and actually in twenty
seventeen during Trump's first term, expand other tax breaks for businesses.

(53:10):
The corporate tax rate will permity lord from thirty five
to twenty one percent. Also with extend or increase other
tax breaks for businesses like those in new machinery, equipment,
and research and development. And then then losers younger generations
will add three trillion dollars to the national debt. That's
one thing you already seeing here. That means the US

(53:31):
we have to borrow more money. They also are demanding
that folks with student loan debt beginning to pay that
money back. So you have that higher income households. The
bill would greatly expand the amount of state and local
taxes households are able to deduct from their federal taxes,
from the current cap of ten grand to forty thousand dollars.

(53:52):
The biggest beneficiary for the change will be households making
two hundred thousand dollars to five hundred thousand dollars a
year and those that own property, because they're likely to
pay highest property and income taxes.

Speaker 6 (54:03):
Well.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
It says wealthy households and business owners would also benefit
from a permanent reduction in the estate tax. Under the legislation,
airs of the states with value at less than fifteen
million would not have to pay a tax on their inheritance.
That cap is set to drop to seven million in
twenty twenty six. Ain't that many black folks who can
qualify for that lower income households? What's going to happen?

(54:26):
Twelve million low income people will lose their health insurance
over the next decade by cutting a trillion bucks from Medicaid.
Steep cuts would hurt the poor and the disabled. It
goes on and on. This is real, it says. Researchers
at Georgetown University found that forty percent of children in
small and rural towns receive their health insurance from Medicaid.

(54:48):
You heard Ken Martin say forty percent of African Americans
get their health care from Medicaid. That means this hurts
black people.

Speaker 15 (55:01):
Mayor Yeah, listen, we all know this, right Roland. I
think that we know. And this is what this is
what I was just saying.

Speaker 20 (55:10):
This is why it's important that we screen to high
holy hell every time and call these things out for
what they are.

Speaker 15 (55:19):
Right, you and talked about it when they called me
the d E I.

Speaker 20 (55:23):
Mayor, you and I both know they wanted to call
me the Nigga mayor, but they didn't have the guts
to say so. And now what they're doing is taking this,
this racism, this sexism into policy, right they don't they
want to make it harder for folks like us.

Speaker 15 (55:39):
But at the same time, this is also about and
wealth and for those.

Speaker 20 (55:45):
Especially those poor white white folks who voted for this,
they are the ones should be screaming the loudest because
you and I both know this is going to impact
them just as much as it's not even more in
numbers on certain of these things. And I think that
we have to continue to call that out as well
and put pressure on those folks, to put pressure on
their representatives who are spitting in their face every single

(56:09):
data they support this nonsense. They support this big, hideous
bill that they're.

Speaker 15 (56:14):
Trying to pass.

Speaker 20 (56:15):
We are talking about allowing them to allow the most
wealthy folks in the country who do not need all
this extra money to have even more while taking and
cutting people who are literally struggling to eat, cutting.

Speaker 15 (56:31):
Their ability to do so. That is the most reprehensible
thing that you should ever have seen from a government.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Absolutely, Baltimore or Brandon Scott, which still appreciated. Congrats on
lowing crime there, and folks would trashing your city. For
a long time, you had folks, you had what the
Sinclair chairman who was attacking you constantly on television and newspaper.
It's amazing that has to stop, well has to stop. Yeah,
but it's amazing how quiet they are about the one

(56:59):
thing they claim that and now all of a sudden
they quiet about that, so they're trying to find something else.

Speaker 20 (57:06):
Listen, and we're gonna keep working, right this is you know,
I didn't say thank you because for us, is this anything.

Speaker 15 (57:13):
To be congratulated on.

Speaker 20 (57:14):
Yet we have far We have a lot more work
to go, and myself, everybody that's worked, from my violence
intervention workers, from our police department, from everyone, our Attorneys
General of Maryland, our States Attorney everyone, our communities play
a part in this. And we're going to continue to
work and ignore the noise because we have shown that
we can do it a different way.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Real quick, I just just remembered, tell me real quickly,
you're planing housing because you're trying to take dilapidated housing
and now convert that because that is a fundamental problem
in this country affordable housing.

Speaker 20 (57:46):
Yeah, we've had a vacant problem in all of my lifetime.
Right for twenty years, they've stuck at sixteen thousand vacant properties.
And now we've worked and have a very unique way
three billion dollar plan to eliminate vacants over the next
fifteen years in the city. We now have him less
than thirteen times for the first time in my lifetime.
And through that program, we're actually using a tiff a

(58:08):
tax break that we used to use to build high
income housing. We're using that to attack the vacance and
have our state support as well, and we're going to
work together as a team, the state, the community, the
business community to end this problem over the next fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
All right, Mayor Scott, we appreciate it, thanks a lot,
Thank you, folks. Going to a break, we come back.
We're going to go live to Capitol here where the
Rules Committee is involved. We were going to talk to
Congressom Shaun Tael Brown, but she's introducing an amendment to
deal with snap benefits. Will show you that live. Plus
we're here from Democratic Leader Hoi King Jeffers right here
on Roland Martin on filtered on the Blackstart Network back.

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Speaker 18 (59:55):
And there's something really really perverse about saying that we
need to put people in cages in order for other
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Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Like that is not how our economy should be got
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Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Folk Shoudaia State Senate voting today fifty to fifty ties.
Jd Vance broke the tie. So therefore the Senate bill
on this big, ugly, dangerous bill now passes them. It
goes to the House for them to work out in
conference what the Senate bill was different from the House bill.
We were going to talk to congress Woman Chaan Tell
Brown of Ohio, but they're the Rules Committee is meeting

(01:00:46):
right now talking about the various changes, and she is
going to be introducing in amendment that deals with the
issue snap benefits. So let's go live to that hearing
right now on the Capitol Hill.

Speaker 23 (01:00:59):
The Department access the first hundred billion of this bill's funding,
but before the Department can use the last fifty billion,
it would require Dood to answer some basic oversight questions
about how DOZE and the Department of Defense are working together.
Up to this point, our questions to the Department have
yielded unsubstantial or non existent in existent answers, and the

(01:01:22):
administration seems unable to explain the role of DOZE in
the Department of Defense. At the very least, we should
understand what this unauthorized department is doing to the Department
of Defense, which has the largest portion of federal budget
in the US government. Finally, my last amendment points out
what we all know that nobody wants this bill. My

(01:01:44):
amendment would revise a short title of the bill to
the nobody wants this Act. On June thirtieth, ABC News
reported on a poll of the Big Ugly Bill that
found the majority of voters opposing this legislation. Fox News
conducted a poll of registered voters in mid June, were
a majority of voters fifty nine percent to be exact,

(01:02:06):
said they opposed this bill. Specifically, Fox News reported by
a twenty one point margin, voters oppose the federal budget
legislation passed by the House of Representatives that the President
calls the one Big Beautiful Bill. About half think this
bill would hurt their families. Multiple other polls from a
range of outlets Pew, the Washington Posts, and many more

(01:02:28):
show the majority of Americans don't want this bill. Republicans
in Congress don't want this bill. Nobody wants this bill.
I would hope that my amendment would help my Republican
colleagues see that fact. With that, thank you, and I
yelled back.

Speaker 16 (01:02:46):
Thank you, mister sus Narrows, Miss Randall, you're recognized.

Speaker 24 (01:02:52):
Thank you, Turbin Fox, ranking Member McGovern, and members of
the Rules Committee for the opportunity to once again testify
on this big budget scam. I'm here today on behalf
of the hardworking constituents of Washington's sixth Congressional district, including
more than twenty seven thousand federal employees. I'm here on

(01:03:13):
behalf of the one point eight million low income children
and adults who rely on Medicaid in my home state.
But I'm also here today on behalf of the seventy
two million Americans across the country who who rely on Medicaid.
Because what has been made abundantly clear in the last
few months is that those Americans who live in states

(01:03:35):
with Republican leadership are not being listened to by their
members of Congress when they are sentenced to losing their healthcare.
A senator from Iowa, in response to concerns from her
constituents at a town hall over medicaid cuts, said, well,
we're all going to die. Apparently she doesn't care that

(01:03:56):
seven hundred thousand Iowans rely on medicaid or that thirty
six percent of Iowa's rely on medicaid. The senator from
Kentucky said they'll get over it. But does he know
that one point four million Kentuckians rely on medicaid and
that forty four percent of the berths in Kentucky are
covered by medicaid. Medicaid covers also sixty eight percent of

(01:04:18):
the nursing homes in Kentucky. I guess the senator isn't
worried about selling out those constituents because dead people can't
make phone calls and turn up at town halls. The
Senator from South Carolina as recently as this week said
we aren't cutting medicaid.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
All right, folks. And we told you earlier that Josh
Howley of Missouri was one of the people talking about
these particular cuts. This was what took place before today.
It's amazing when you say one thing and do another.
Listen to this.

Speaker 7 (01:04:49):
I walked through them, and he said, oh, well, that's
very surprising.

Speaker 25 (01:04:52):
He said, I'm surprised that they made all these changes
to the degree that did I said, I am too.
He was real clear to Senate Republicans just two weeks ago,
don't touch anything else in medicaid. Take the House framework,
tweak it if you need to, but do not do
anything else. And the Center framework is really it departs
from his framework big time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
So he said it was just it was just so
many cuts that he just couldn't vote for the bill.
But he actually did. Okay, that's that's called line. I
saw this today and okay, I don't really know what
this this really does or means, but okay, so Senator

(01:05:31):
Chuck Schum, the Democratic Minari leader, went to the floor
and actually said this about the bill. Listen, page one lines.

Speaker 26 (01:05:41):
I raised a point of order against page one, lines
three to five of the pending amendment, which violates Section
three point thirteen B one A of the Congressional Budget
Act of nineteen seventy four.

Speaker 7 (01:05:55):
The point of order is sustained, the text will be stricken.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
What that was is the bill was called the big
Beautiful bill. And then Chuck Schumer said he just got
that changed. Okay, I don't really know what that does.
But Mustafa maybe that significant, I don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:06:21):
I mean, maybe it's significant inside the belbway, it's not
significant for missus Ramirez or mister Johnson or you know,
a laundry list of other folks who have to deal
with the impacts that are coming from here. You know,
folks keep doing all this performative stuff, which you know
is so disingenuous to the people who have to carry
the burdens continually, and now you're just placing more on

(01:06:43):
their back. When we look at SNAP, you know, we
got about forty one million people right now. I think
it's about thirteen fourteen percent of the country who you know,
who rely on that to be able to get as
close as they possibly can to having a balanced meal,
to being able to have enough nutrition in their bodies
to be able to survive.

Speaker 14 (01:07:02):
Right.

Speaker 10 (01:07:03):
So when I see that particular action with that clip,
for me, that talks about a survival mentality. And we've
got too many politicians who are willing to go to
the lowest possible denominator and that's where they operate from
where people who are in community are.

Speaker 7 (01:07:21):
Tired of just surviving.

Speaker 10 (01:07:24):
You know, a great person one said I'm sick and
tired of being sick and tired, and we have to
change the paradigm. The paradigm for politicians, for everyone who votes,
has to be on thriving. We should demand from our
politicians and types of things that we need to be
able to, not just deal with the basic amenities, right,

(01:07:45):
basic amenities air, you know, clean air, clean water, access
to food, access to housing. But you can't even get
these politicians to do those types of things. And it
doesn't matter if they're Democrats or Republicans, are independents. I
throw everybody in there until you show me something different,
until you show me that you're actually willing to stand

(01:08:05):
up and fight. And that's what people are looking for,
and that's why they're so disconnected from the political systems
because nobody, very few people are willing to fight. And
when the folks do fight, often they are attacked by
so many different individuals and corporations and big packs and
all this other type of stuff that they eventually get
worn down or they find a way to vote those

(01:08:27):
folks out because they were actually the ones that are
willing to stand up. So again, no more of this
performative stuff, No more bumper sticker language. You know, if
you can't take what you did back home, actually sit
down on somebody's kitchen or on their back porch and
show them how their life is going to be better.
Then you're wasting people's time. And when you're wasting people's time,

(01:08:49):
you're putting their future in danger. And you're literally, in
this particular moment, putting people's life, you know, on life
support and then turning the electricity off because people can't
worded to keep you alive.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
I believe in data that shows you exactly what's going on,
and people need to actually have numbers and not generic.
So this is what Senator Elizabeth Warren posted on her
social media account. She says, how many people will lose
healthcare if in your state under Trump's big beautiful bill.
Y'all hear the numbers right here? Okay, Senator Tommy Teperville,

(01:09:23):
remember he talked about d rats, the rats and federal Well,
guess what Alabama will lose two hundred and nineteen thousand,
eight hundred and three people will lose health care in Alabama.
Alaska thirty nine thousand, nine hundred and eighty nine, Arizona
three hundred and sixty five thousand, nine hundred and eighty four,
Arkansas one hundred and fifty eight thousand, seven hundred and
forty five. Hello, Sarah Huckabee, Trump's lying spokes White House

(01:09:48):
Press secretary. That's your state. California two million, three hundred
and sixty eight thousand, four hundred and sixty six people,
Colorado two hundred and forty thousand, nine hundred and fifty three,
Connecticut eighty six thousand in five hundred and eighty Delaware
fifty four thousand, nine hundred and fifty seven, Florida one million,
nine hundred and thirty six thousand, four hundred and twenty one.

(01:10:08):
How about that Governor Ron De Santis, Georgia six hundred
and fifty one thousand, five hundred and forty How about
that Governor Brian Kemp Hawaii sixty two thousand, four hundred
and eighty three, Idaho seventy two thousand, eight hundred and fifteen,
Illinois five hundred thirty five thousand, eight hundred and forty nine,
Indiana Red State two hundred and sixty seven thousand, nine
hundred and ninety six. Iowa Red State one hundred and

(01:10:30):
thirteen thousand, nine hundred and seventy nine, Kansas Red State
ninety two thousand, nine hundred and thirty seven, Kentucky Democratic Governor,
Red State one hundred and eighty four thousand, five hundred
and twenty six, Louisiana MAGA Governor Jeff Landry Red State
two hundred and sixty seven thousand, five hundred and fifty,
Maine sixty one thousand, four hundred and eighty eight, Maryland

(01:10:52):
two hundred and forty five thousand, nine hundred and twenty nine,
Massachusetts three hundred and twenty six thousand, two hundred and
sixty two, Michigan four hundred and fifty three thousand, one
hundred and one, Minnesota one hundred and seventy three thousand,
two hundred and sixty eight, Mississippi one undred and fifty
three thousand, nine hundred and ten, Missouri two hundred and

(01:11:13):
sixty five thousand, two hundred ninety eight Mississipi, Missouri. To
Red States Montana Red State fifty five thousand, nine hundred
and eighty one, Nebraska Red State seventy eight thousand, two
hundred and seventy five. Then we go to the next one.
We go to Nevada one hundred and fourteen thousand, five
hundred New Hampshire forty six thousand, three hundred and eighty eight,

(01:11:36):
New Jersey three hundred sixty three thousand, three hundred and
thirty New Mexico one hundred eleven thousand, nine hundred ninety
seven New York one million, nineteen thousand, one undred and
twenty one. North Carolina y'all voted for Trump sev JUND
fifty one thousand, nine hundred and eighty two, North Dakota
Red State twenty four thousand, four hundred and eighty eight,
Ohio Red State four hundred eighty nine thousand, eight hundred
and fifteen, Oklahoma Red State two hundred eleven thousand, seven

(01:11:58):
hundred ninety four at one hundred ninety eight thousand, eighty nine.
Pennsylvania y'all voted for Trump four undred and eighty three thousand,
eight hundred and sixty eight, Rhode Island forty seven thousand,
three hundred and fifty nine, South Carolina Red State two
hundred eighty five thousand, eight hundred and fifty seven, South
Dakota Red State thirty three thousand, eight hundred and thirty eight.
Tennessee Red State three hundred and ten thousand, and fifty six.

(01:12:22):
Texas Red State one million, six hundred and seventy one thousand,
nine hundred and sixty five people, Utah Red State one
hundred eighty eight thousand, four hundred ninety four, Vermont thirty
five thousand, two hundred and forty two, Virginia Republican governor
free undred and twenty two thousand, nine hundred and eighty four,
Washington State three undred and twenty eight thousand, six hundred

(01:12:44):
ninety five, West Virginia Red State eighty two thousand, two
hundred and twenty five. Wisconsin y'all voted for Trump two
hundred and seventy six thousand, one hundred and seventy five.
Wyoming Red State twenty thousand, four hundred and seven had
seventeen million lives. Republicans are putting at rich. How in
the world can we talk about this country having all
the greatest healthcare system in the world, and we literally

(01:13:06):
are taking health care from people because we want to
give corporations more tax breaks. How can we say how
great we are, how wonderful we are, when we literally
are saying to people who make two hundred to five
hundred thousand dollars, oh, we're going to hook you up

(01:13:27):
with more tax breaks. I need people to understand when
we talk about how much people truly make in this country.
So I think a lot of people are absolutely confused
when we talk about how much people make and people
walk around in this sort of Instagram world where they think,

(01:13:49):
oh my god. I mean, I think just the average
person walking around is making one hundred thousand dollars. Y'all
see all them videos folks talking about who they should date, Like,
I ain't dating no man unless he make it one
hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, three hund thousand dollars. Well,
let me help y'all out. This is according to the
United States Census in twenty twenty three. This says income

(01:14:09):
in the United States. All right, this is the United
States Census. This is the highlights right here. The real
medium household income in the United States is eighty thousand,
six hundred and ten dollars. That's the median household income
means mother, father, and likely two kids. That's the median

(01:14:33):
household income. It increased by five point four percent for
white households. It increased five point seven percent for non
Hispanic white households. There was no significant change in the
medium incomes for Black, Asian and Hispanic households, y'all eighty thousand,

(01:14:56):
six hundred and ten dollars. That means if you ain't
making two hundred and five hundred thousand, that tax break
don't impact you. Oh, by the way, the salt deduction
that's for homeowners. Black home ownership has never been fifty percent.
So if you renting, you don't get that. You don't

(01:15:21):
get that. See, these are the real numbers I'm talking about, Randy,
when we start talking about these bills and how and
who they impact and regular ordinary people. So I'm not
interested in having a whole bunch of talking heads just
sitting here chattering, chattering, chattering, talming. No, this is real life.

(01:15:41):
We already see people having to spend so much money
on food and gas. I'm a player clipping a second.
Trump was lying today by all these things. He drop
still lying. And they want to sit here and say, yo,
if you are making two hundred and three and four
and five hundred thousand, who America is great for you?

(01:16:02):
And while they wearing red hats, everybody else should be
wearing black hats because it's gonna be thunderstorm cloudy days
in their houses.

Speaker 14 (01:16:14):
Right, you know, just we seem to like reality TV
so much, we need to get real about our own lives.
I agree with you that social media has warped our
perception of how most people are living and made us
feel as if we are, you know, should be living
a certain way. The reality of it is that most
of us are living paycheck to paycheck. The reality of

(01:16:36):
it is when we say, oh, we'd only date somebody
that's making one hundred thousand dollars, most people are not
making one hundred thousand dollars. The reality of the whole
thing is that we are struggling and something like this
bill that affects every aspect of our lives. You talk
about healthcare, that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Is the biggest way, that's the number one way that
people end up filing bankruptcy.

Speaker 14 (01:16:56):
You know, I always point out to people you never
hear about a important like a senatory. You never hear
anybody in the government or a president that dies young.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
And why is it.

Speaker 14 (01:17:06):
It's because they have top of the line healthcare. They
are looked at and checked out all of the time.
When we talk about our history and how we die young,
it's because we're not receiving the same level of care,
and now it's going to get worse. We just went
through a pandemic where people couldn't get the services that

(01:17:27):
they needed. Can you imagine now if you can't even
get to a hospital in time to help your loved one. Right,
we need to get very real about what's happening and
what has been psychological Someone needs to be a psychological
do a psychological study on white people thinking that privilege

(01:17:49):
equals money. You can have white privilege and you do
right if you live in America. There's certain that your
race does not cause you certain issues, but it does
not mean that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
You have more money.

Speaker 14 (01:18:00):
And so you have these broke white people who are
making act are below the below the poverty level, and
they keep voting against themselves because you have a president
who has divided the company and made these people think
that white is one way and everybody else is bad
and poor and broke and criminals and illegals and all

(01:18:24):
the words that he uses all of the time and
makes them think because they're white, they're right, and they're
gonna be No, they're gonna be white and sick white
and broke white and dying like the numbers you just
went through of how it's going to affect every single state.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
You know is real, is real, and.

Speaker 14 (01:18:46):
It's going to impact not just black people because I
think just like they voted for this man in is
why they continue to cling on to him, is because.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
They have this idea that.

Speaker 14 (01:18:58):
These cuts on only will affect black people, because that
is the perception that we've always given about black people,
that we are the ones who are broke and struggle
and have issues.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
And that is not the case. They are going to sadly,
I don't even want this.

Speaker 14 (01:19:13):
They are going to fuck around and they are going
to find they have fucked around and they're going to
find out and it's going.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
To be a bad wake up call for the majority.

Speaker 14 (01:19:22):
Of Americans because even those people who are you know,
are making more money, this will.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
Impact impact them as well.

Speaker 14 (01:19:30):
It's sad, It really is sad, and people need you know,
they hate the word WoT, but some of these people
need to wake up.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
I mean, I mean, Joe, when you start walking through this,
uh and again, you want things done that are going
to be beneficial and help people. That's what you want
to do. What you don't want is to sit here

(01:19:59):
in and deal with this thing. This guy sit here.
I mean, this is the kind of thing I'm talking about.
Give me a second. When you talk about broken systems
in this country. I literally this guy. I just saw
this tweet. Give me one second. Let me pull this
up for y'all. Now you tell me how regular ordinary

(01:20:20):
person is supposed to deal with this. Here, this man,
Matt van Swold just posted in March my wife went
to the hospital for stomach pain. They did a CT
scan of her abdomen that came back negative. The bill
was nine thousand, one hundred and seventeen dollars and forty

(01:20:42):
two cents. Now, first of all, he goes, but apparently,
if you're an illegal alien, this is free. The system
is broken. Well, Matt, you don't know what the hell
you're talking about, because see what Matt doesn't see. That's
one of these that's one of these maga folks. That's
one of these maga folks. See see I see. I
want I want people understand why why I'm exposing this?
See uh Matt who uh? First of all, this was

(01:21:07):
also hilarious. I'm sitting here, uh looking at his his timeline.
Y'all can go ahead and pull it. He's a former
nuclear signist for the US Department of Energy, extraotographer for Apple,
United Airlines, and Hyatt. Okay, so all Matt is doing
is tweeting about free healthcare for legal aliens, uh, all

(01:21:30):
all this sort of stuff. And look at this here, uh,
look at this. Uh. And then he's criticizing the Pride parade.
He's sitting called Tom Tillis is the word now his
what's hilarious? He's ripping. Uh, he's ripping. Uh look at
this here. Tom Tillis is the worst senator. Dude barely
visited us in western North Carolina after Hurricane Helene. You

(01:21:53):
do know Trump refused y'all more uh more resources for
the hurricane. He hasn't done Jack shif for recovery the area.
Tom till has to go. But but but but you
maga and you supported Trump, who ain't sending y'all no money.
He goes, I'm new to the conservative movement, but have
the GP always been this lazy, in effect ineffected. So y'all,
he's laying all this thing out. He's posted about how

(01:22:14):
great Ice is. Let me explain something, y'all, right now,
to all the people out there who don't understand how
things work in this country. I'm just gonna give you
an example that you may not be familiar with, and
that is this here in the United States of America,
public hospitals are required to treat people. I need everybody

(01:22:37):
listening to me right now. I need you to hear
what I'm saying. When you go to a public hospital. Yeah,
there are two hospitals in America. There are public hospitals
and there are private hospitals. A lot of the public
hospitals are actually nonprofits. I grew up in Houston. Herman
you have two Herman Hospital public. Y'all met this hospital, Okay,

(01:23:00):
all right, So if you're in Houston and you are
having a murder situation and you roll up to Herman Hospital,
they are required by law to treat you, whether you
are undocumented, whether you're an American citizen. And here's a deal.
They're gonna send you a bill. Now, guess what, Matt,

(01:23:21):
don't understand that that CT scan for his wife, it's
gonna be the same for undocumented worker or for an
American citizen. You're gonna get the same nine thousand dollars bill. Matt.
That's what you're gonna get. Matt, and the private hospital
Matt can refuse to treat somebody. They lit it up. Sir,

(01:23:45):
do you have health care?

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
I don't. I'm sorry you don't have health insurance? Yeah,
we can't see you. They don't have to treat you.
So when Matt's bemoaning the same health care city, that's
why why I love showing these matter. People mustafa because
Matt is talking about how he's now a conservative. Yet

(01:24:09):
the people who want to get rid of thirty five
dollars for insulin are the Republicans. The folk who want
to stop them the Republicans. I'm gonna finish this point here.
I see Congressman Joe and the Gaza speaking the rules
Communitis go live the Capitol Hill, and.

Speaker 27 (01:24:23):
I think expose the cruelty of this bill that I
think will have disastrous consequences, certainly for all of our
constituents and ultimately, I believe all Americans. I had I
guess just one question that our drives maybe might be
a few questions for the gentleman from Maryland, because while
you are new to Congress, you may be surprised to

(01:24:46):
learn that you and the chairwoman here have something in common,
which is that both of you come from states, you
have the privilege of representing states that have very similar
error rates with respect to SNAP. And I don't know
if you were here previously and us hopefully heard some
of the discussion that we had about this absurd provision

(01:25:08):
that Americans are now learning about that apparently Senate Republicans
put into this bill regarding SNAP ostensibly to get the
bill across the finish line, to get Center Mkowski's vote.

Speaker 13 (01:25:23):
And I just kind of want to walk through.

Speaker 27 (01:25:25):
This because my sense is that your amendment attempts to
equalize everything and essentially remove this this deal that was
made in the Senate from the bill, and if your
amendment were not ruled in order, I want to kind
of get a sense as to how this bill will
work in practice. So, in Maryland, the SNAP error rate

(01:25:46):
right now is eight point eighty five percent. In North
Carolina it's eight point eleven percent. So under this bill,
right assuming it's enacted into law, state of Maryland and
the state of North Carolina have really only three choices.
One raised axes to essentially pay for what is a

(01:26:08):
cost share that's never been imposed on states before. Two
cut SNAP funding and force countless vulnerable citizens to no
longer have access to food assistants, or three this new option,
which is increase your error rate above thirteen percent. So basically, overpay,

(01:26:29):
snap or underpay. You choose, but make sure that your
program is not working appropriately, and if you can get
to thirteen percent, you can join the ten states that
have such poor error rates that they're exempted from any
kind of cost share for four years, including the state

(01:26:49):
of Georgia. Mister Scott, Actually, only a democratic state would
actually intentionally increase their error rates.

Speaker 28 (01:26:57):
A Republican state would work to reduce them many Well.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
That's fascinating.

Speaker 13 (01:27:01):
If that's the case.

Speaker 27 (01:27:03):
Oh well, if that's the case, and I didn't yielded
the gentleman but in any of it, but you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
Did, forget that, I hear you.

Speaker 27 (01:27:08):
I will simply say this. If that's the case, then
you could just remove them entirely. Why include these ten
states as part of this deal? If apparently Republican states
are so committed to reducing the air raid on their
own volition, why don't you have that cost share start tomorrow?
Clearly that's not the case. Clearly the Republicans in the

(01:27:29):
US Senate, what was that.

Speaker 28 (01:27:30):
I'd be fine with the case, then you should vote
against the bill.

Speaker 27 (01:27:32):
You have an opportunity tomorrow to well that's unfortunately. I
assume that that'll be fine for the people of Georgia, because,
as I said, they're exempted from this, so they don't
have to worry about that. But the people of North
Carolina do, as do the people of Maryland.

Speaker 13 (01:27:47):
So I don't know if the gentleman wants to thank you.

Speaker 28 (01:27:49):
Thank you for the question, mister de Goose. And that's
why we are offering this amendment. We are offering the
Chair and her colleagues the opportunity to not penalize the
great citizens of North Carolina, to not penalize the residence
of Maryland. We can create an even playing field where
all states are in the same space as it relates
to SNAB, where all states have the opportunity to work

(01:28:10):
towards improving our error rates and not being penalized and
in fact incentivized to go in the opposite direction. I
think that is a terrible thing to be incentivizing. I
thought your conversation with mister Roy earlier was very instructive
when he agreed, and again i'll enter in the record
as well from earlier I want to enter in the
record that there's one time that I'm agreeing with mister

(01:28:31):
Roy as well, that this is not sound policy. This
will hurt our states, and so I would encourage this
committee to both vote for the amendments. I don't know
how you rule it in order if you're advancing a
bill that already has these requirements in it. So I
would encourage this committee to rule the amendments in order,
adopt the amendments, and then tank this bill because it

(01:28:54):
will take away those benefits for hungry kids here.

Speaker 8 (01:28:58):
Here could have said a better myself.

Speaker 28 (01:29:00):
I yield back.

Speaker 13 (01:29:01):
Thank you, Thank you, mister.

Speaker 16 (01:29:03):
Nogoose, Miss Leisure Fernandez, You're recognized.

Speaker 12 (01:29:07):
I too want to thank each of you because what
we are engaged in right now is an effort to
make sure that the American public knows that this time around,
how sweetpublicans are stealing America.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
All right, folks, So this is what I was So
we're gonna in a moment speak speaking with Democrat Lea
to Hockking Jefferson. But here's what I was trying to
make earlier. When you go into a hot public hospital,
if you can't afford the bill, you know who pays
that taxpayers taxpayers. So one of the reasons that you've
had the Affordable Care Act is that people then had
health insurance. It dramatically decreased the number of people who

(01:29:41):
didn't have health insurance. So if I want all y'all
conservatives and liberals and progressives and fiscal hawks to all
understand that right now, American taxpayers, based upon our county
health systems, they foot the b o when people don't

(01:30:02):
have health care and they show up at public hospitals.
It is stunning to mean, Mustafa, how many people do
don't understand that basic fact that's costing the same taxpayers
billions of dollars. So if people actually had health care,
it wouldn't be costing the taxpayers, you know what I mean?
I think the other there you go, there you go,

(01:30:23):
Come on, guys, yeah, I was just good, go ahead.

Speaker 10 (01:30:26):
I was just going to say, you hit it on
the head. I think the other part of the context
for folks is that, you know, most folks don't understand
we've got one hundred and twenty nine million people in
this country who have at least one chronic disease. Now
that's not Mustafa who's saying that that's the CDC who
actually shared that number, and when we look at when
you you've got to forget what the number is now,
it's about sixty percent of bankruptcies that also have medical debt.

(01:30:51):
That's a part of pushing people into bankruptcies and all
the parts that come out of that. So it just
makes no sense to limit the amount of individuals in
our country who have basic health care. To take that
away means that if you know what the numbers are,
then once again you know more people are going to die.

(01:31:12):
But not only are more people going to die, there
are going to be these ripple effects of you not
having health care because you're making other types of decisions
that are going to create additional stressors. I believe Randy
brought into our conversation a little bit about the mental
health aspect as well. So it's not only cruel, it
just doesn't make economic sense for you to limit the

(01:31:34):
amount of people who actually have access to health care.
It makes the country weaker. You end up having a
workforce that is sicker. That means that we cannot compete
on an international level and the way that we need to.
It means that you have parents who are sicker, so
they can't spend the time that's necessary with their children.
So there are all of these ripple effects when you

(01:31:56):
don't have the strong health care infrastructure in place. And
healthcare infrastructure is making sure that you have the health
insurance that people need, making sure that they have access
and affordability to healthcare facility. Yes, all these things are
critically important.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
I'm trying to give folks this here. I want to
show you this real quick. I'm trying to find a
more recent number, but this is from this was published
eight for six, twenty twenty one, and it shows that
the uncompensated care costs for the nation's uninsured average forty
two point four billion dollars per year in the twenty

(01:32:33):
fifteen to twenty seventeen time period. Now, guess what before
that's after the Affordable Care Act. Before the Affordable Care Act,
it was sixty two point eight billion dollars a year.
So the Affordable Care Act cut by twenty billion dollars
American taxpayers were spending for an uncompensated care costs. Y'all.

(01:32:58):
That means county people taxpayers are paying that amount of money.
So if more people have healthcare in America. It's going
to cost taxpayers less dollars because they don't have to
be paying the uncompensated care. And the law says and
Democratic House, through the hak King Jeffers is joining us
right now and he can confirm this. The law requires

(01:33:21):
public hospitals they have to care for a person when
they show up, whether they have insurance or not. Correct
Democratic Lear Jeffers.

Speaker 8 (01:33:30):
That's absolutely correct.

Speaker 19 (01:33:31):
And it's more expensive if you have to treat people
in the emergency department as opposed to them being able
to receive primary care, where you can invert a whole
bunch of situations.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
So if you have the flu and you have insurance,
you can go see a doctor. It's cheaper than if
you have the flu and you got to get rushed
to the emergency room.

Speaker 8 (01:33:52):
That's absolutely correct.

Speaker 19 (01:33:54):
I mean, by every measure, what the Republicans are trying
to do with this one big, ugly bill is reckless.
It's dangerous. It's going to cost lives in every single
state in this country.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
I'm just so right now. Earlier I had a DNC
chair Ken Martin, and one of the things that he
talked about was were the folks so the thirty five
Republicans being targeted. I saw the D Triple C put
this out twenty twenty six districts in play, and what
I've been saying to people Leader Jeffers is very simple,
and that is, listen, Democrats have in the House, are

(01:34:28):
going to vote against this particular bill. Is your strategy
to target? Folks, Come on, go to my iPad? Is
your strategy to target? Tell people to call these individuals
and say you need to vote against this bill or
you're going to pay the price at the ballot box
in twenty twenty six, because this bill can die in
the House if you get how many people but five

(01:34:49):
Republicans to vote against it or six? What's the number?

Speaker 19 (01:34:52):
Yeah, all we need is four Republicans. Every single House
Democrat is going to oppose this bill. Were strongly opposed
to this bill, which means that all we need is
for Republicans to join us and we can kill this
bill from ever even getting to Donald Trump's desk. And
all we're asking these Republicans to do one is to
show some John McCain level of courage. When John McCain

(01:35:16):
became the deciding vote and stopping the reckless Republican effort
to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

Speaker 8 (01:35:21):
John McCain took that step.

Speaker 19 (01:35:23):
Because he understood that if you take away healthcare the
people that he represented in Arizona, we're going to suffer. Well,
that's the same thing as it relates to all of
these congressional districts where people are willing to effectively end
Medicaid as we know it, throw off millions of people

(01:35:43):
from receiving their Medicaid. They're trying to detonate large parts
of the Affordable Care Act, and they even are going
to cut Medicare as a result of this bill by
more than half a trillion dollars. This is extraordinary, Rowland.
It is the large assault on healthcare in American history.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
What jumps out of me is, well, you talk about
the people meant snap benefits. Right. We were just showing
the House Rules Committee we were going to have congres
Win Sean till Brown on which is introducing the amendment
to deal with that. I mean, how in the world
can you sit here and offer billions of breaks to
people making two, three, four or five hundred thousand dollars
massive corporations on the corporate tax rate from thirty five

(01:36:25):
to twenty one percent, and you have no problem with
people starving die dying from food insecurity. And what this
average snap benefit is, what three or four maybe five
bucks a day?

Speaker 19 (01:36:37):
Yeah, no, that's absolutely right. About six dollars per meal
per day.

Speaker 8 (01:36:43):
That's it.

Speaker 19 (01:36:44):
And you're talking about massive tax breaks to wealthy corporations
and to the billionaire donors of the Republicans, and then
they want to stick everyday Americans with the bill, rip
away healthcare, rip away nutritional assistance, as you've indicated, the
largest assault on nutritional assistance in American history. Literally, Roland,

(01:37:05):
these people are ripping food from the mouths of children, veterans,
and seniors. This is extraordinary stuff. And so we're going
to continue to keep the pressure on these extreme magnan
Republicans and the House. The problem is that what we've
seen all year is that when Donald Trump says jump,
they just asked the question how high. These people aren't

(01:37:27):
functioning as they should consistent with the Constitution, a separate
and coequal branch of government looking out for the people
that they're supposed to represent. They basically have been rubber
stamps for Donald Trump's extreme agenda.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
So what are you saying to your caucus. What are
you asking people to do? Because the reality is, yes,
it passed the House, it went to the state, and
they have to now reconcile. This bill is not guaranteed
it will get passed. Will it likely get passed? I
personally think Republicans are going to bend their knee, but
the reality is the bill can be stopped. You have
to have these massive cuts to hurt people. What do

(01:38:03):
you want the people? We've got nearly six thousand people
watching live right now just on YouTube, more on Facebook
and our app. People are listening. What do you want
people to do right now? They cannot wait their still time.

Speaker 8 (01:38:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:38:17):
Absolutely, You just got to make sure that you reach
out to your member of the House of Representatives to
share your perspectives as to whether you want healthcare to
be cut for millions of Americans. Do you want food
assistance to be cut? Or would you rather see massive
tax breaks go to their billionaire donors and they're wealthy

(01:38:40):
and well off corporations while everyday Americans are actually going
to get hurt. The voice of the people needs to
be heard. And if you have a member of Congress
who shares your values, then urge them to keep pressing
on and making the case if there's a member of
Congress that represents you who does not share your values,

(01:39:00):
who's voting against your interests, then of course you have
the First Amendment right to express yourself to them, to
make sure that you are communicating the fact that you
have an expectation that they're going to defend the health
care of the American people, defend nutritional assistants, defend veterans,

(01:39:22):
defend higher education. These people are going after pell grants
in this bill. They're going to make it more expensive
for people to get a college education.

Speaker 8 (01:39:31):
That's going to fall disproportionately on communities of color.

Speaker 19 (01:39:35):
And they are going after utility costs in a way
because they are attacking the clean energy economy, it's going
to cause utility costs to increase for millions of Americans
by hundreds of dollars per year.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
Well, I certainly hope the DNC and other folks are
going to be doing robo calls to those congressional districts,
are going to be hitting people because again we're talking
massive impact billions of dollars impacting cities, counties, states, school districts.
You are to see Trump targeting blue areas. If you're
elected to office, you're supposed to be representing Democrats and Republicans,

(01:40:14):
liberals and conservatives, voters and non voters, and we're not
seeing that. And this is crucial, and there has to
be a sense of urgency, Leader Jefferies, from everybody. And
I would hope that members are going to Democratic members
are going to be on every single day, challenging, pushing
folks to get them understand that they're going to be
hurting regular Americans, especially folks who don't make two hundred

(01:40:36):
thousand dollars more, especially with the medium household income in
America be in eighty grand.

Speaker 8 (01:40:40):
That's right. It's an all hands on deck moment, you know.

Speaker 19 (01:40:43):
And we've said everybody's got to lean in aggressively, maximum engagement,
communicating with the American people, pressing our Republican colleagues, and
doing everything that we can over the next several days
to try to stop this bill from moving out of
the House of Representatives.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
All right, Leader Jeffery, I know your business. You got
to go. I appreciate you joining us, can't wait to
have you back. Thank you man, Thanks a bunch again.
It is so let me help folks out who are
watching and paying attention, because this is also one of
the big problems that we have a lot of folks.
Y'all don't know who, happily who represents you. You are
thinking that this CBC member or somebody else represents you,

(01:41:20):
and you've been living in the Republican district. So here's
what you need to do. I need your to go
to Google and just do this. Here. I need you
try to type in how to find your member of Congress. Hey, everybody,
right now, I need your to go to Google. Need
to type in how to find your member of Congress. Okay,
and then when you do that, you see right here,
the first line that comes up is Congress dot gov.

(01:41:44):
The second line that comes up is House dot gov.
The third one is USA dot gov. I want you
to click Congress do dot gov because they have representatives
and senators. And all you need to do is put
in your zip code. So let's just say, if I
put in where we are two zero zero zero six,

(01:42:05):
you see right there, boom, These come up. Let's just
say type Washington d C and it's gonna say your
possible members and it has the map. Boom. Delegate Elino
Holmes Norton. If I sit here and go back and
then I click this here and I type in, let's
say I grew up in seven seven zero two nine

(01:42:27):
in Houston. That's where I grew up in Clinton Park.
So you see right there it says seven seven zero
two nine Clinton Park, Trick Community, Jacino City, Texas. That's
where I grew up in Houston. When I type that in,
it's gonna pop up, oh boom. Here are the two
state senators John Cornyn Ted Cruz, and the representative is
Sylvia Garcia, Democrat from Texas. And so I need everybody

(01:42:52):
who's watching us right now to do that. That way
you know exactly who represents you. That is important because
now you know who to call. Some of y'all might
be living in a congressional district represented by a Republican
and you a constituent. So when you call, you should
say I'm calling your congressional office in DC or local.

(01:43:14):
I'm a constituent. I need you to vote against this
bill because I am a voter, and let them know
that if you vote for this bill, then I'm going
to be voting against you when you run for reelection
next year. That's why it's important for us to understand
the basic fundamentals of politics, and too many people of

(01:43:35):
Randy don't understand who their city council member is, who
their school district member is, who their state rep their
state senator, who they're the House member is. They may
only know the governor. Or, they only may know the
United States senator.

Speaker 3 (01:43:52):
Take your power, Take your power.

Speaker 14 (01:43:55):
Know who is supposed to be representing you, and contact them,
and let me tell you something. I think that what
we've seen is that a lot of these people don't care.
They cannot see the picture that many of us are living,
that the future and how it scares us. But they
are self absorbed and they do care about their own interest.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
And so let them know. You will not be voted
back into office if you vote yes and allow this
bill to pass the House. You have to let them
know and let them know that you have power, because
we do.

Speaker 14 (01:44:31):
We do, and as we see, Congress is not working
on our behalf like they should.

Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
But we can. We can force them to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
Absolutely, that's the case, folks. It looks like go live
to Capitol Hill. It looks like the House Rules Committee
is still going on. It looks like they've switched out
of the first group of folks testify, and now I
see a second group. I'm looking here. I think I

(01:44:59):
see congress Woman Johanna Hayes of Connecticut. I think I
see congress congress Woman Jasmine Crockett of Texas. I think
I see there on the far left end, congress Woman
Seantell Brown of Ohio. We only are seeing the back
of their heads. And so once they start up, then
we're gonna actually go live there and I want to

(01:45:20):
carry their testimony. Truth Talks is live at eight. We're
gonna go over our time for our panelis have to go.
I understand that, but I want we just missed. We
just missed their Congressman Trey Carter of New Orleans. So
while we were interviewing speaking Jefferies, he was talking. We're
gonna try to get We're gonna get his comments and

(01:45:43):
play that later. But we want y'all to hear from
these Black Caucus members who are testifying live right now.
We want to show that for you because we want
to hear what you have to say. I just need
folks to understand that you heard the speaker say, y'all,
this is absolutely all hands on. This is not an
opportunity for us to be sitting back again. It's almost

(01:46:04):
six thousand of y'all watching on YouTube. If every single
person watching us right now, Joe calls five friends and say,
I need you to call these folk in. I need
y'all to call these thirty five members. Or here's the
whole deal. Okay, y'all see right here. Okay, the d

(01:46:26):
Triple C sent this out. These are thirty five. Well,
you heard Ken Martin say that there are thirty five
Republicans districts in play. This is who they are. You
see Alaska, You see Arizona. You see three in Arizona, California, California, California, Colorado, Florida, Florida, Florida, Iowa, Iowa, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Michigan.

(01:46:50):
Mission the open seat in Michigan. You got Anne Wagner.
In Missouri, Don Bacon, this seat right here. Don Bacon
has announced he's retiring. That is a that is Onha Nebraska.
That's where a black man just was elected the mayor
of Omaha, Nebraska, beating out a white incumbent female Republican
that could potentially be a Democrat pickup seat right here.

(01:47:15):
You've got Tom Kean Junior in New Jersey, Mike Lawler,
Max Miller, Mike Turner, Mike Carey, Brian Fitzpatrick Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas,
Rod Whitman of Virginia, Gene Keegan's, Brian Style Wisconsin, Derrick
Van Orden, Wisconsin. Let me also say this here because
most people I don't even comment on, but you got

(01:47:36):
somebody sitting here sports X ray Fields Roland. Why didn't
you confront Jeffers about accepting corporate donations? Is it because
you also are on that titty that's not your journalism?
First of all, you can kiss my ass. See, this
is the stupid stuff that we also have to deal
with some people who are just dumb. First of all,
you got to be an idiot to say that. Show
me the corporate donations that we are accepting. And guess

(01:48:00):
what corporation spend three hundred and fifty billion dollars in
advertising a year, So you saying black on media shouldn't
get corporate advertising, that's stupid. Ten plus billion dollars was
spent on advertise on campaigns twenty twenty four. Actually, I
think the number was closer to eleven billion. The Kamala
Harris campaign since spent six hundred million dollars on advertising,

(01:48:22):
we got three hundred fifty thousand. Very few other black
on media got money. So you trying to say black
on media should not accept political political advertising. But Sinclaire
took political advertising. Comcast did, Disney did, Discovery Warner did,
every major media company, I Heart Radio did, every white

(01:48:45):
media company, SEEINGN did? Fox News did? All these white
media companies took advertising. But black people can't you kiss
my ass, sports actuary. It's as simple as that. Now
back to the task at hand. Go right here. You
see this graphic here it says Callas, this is the
folks you need to call. Drop the little third please, folk,

(01:49:05):
you see the number called two zero two two two
five three one two one two zero two two two
five three one two one. If you live in any
of these districts, I showed you how, you need to
check to see if you are represented by any of
these thirty five people. You heard Leader Jeffery say they
just need four Republicans to vote against this bill and

(01:49:27):
it will not pass. You should be checking to see
if any of these people actually represent you. That's what
the goal is. We can speak up. We have every
right as constituents to tell folks how we want them
to vote and Mustafa. People need to understand you got
to be in the game. You got to check in.
This is not about tweeting or posting on Instagram or TikTok.

(01:49:51):
It's not about being cute. All the folks out there
who are doing boots on the ground, I need you
to get your boots on the ground and pick up
that damn phone and since some emails and send some
text messages and make some phone calls and then and
doing this sort of stuff, because that's what needs to
happen in order for us to not have people lose healthcare,

(01:50:11):
lose food benefits who need it. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:50:15):
You know, folks have heard me talk about my grandmother
and one of her quotes when she says, you have powered,
lets you give it away. The other part of that
power is that you got to get active. You know,
as you said, I get so frustrated when people just
want to do stuff online and don't want to actually
roll up their sleeves and get in the game and actually,
you know, do the things that are necessary.

Speaker 7 (01:50:36):
And you do have power.

Speaker 10 (01:50:37):
I mean, pick up the phone, make the phone calls,
you know, send send the messages as well to let
people know exactly what your expectations are.

Speaker 7 (01:50:47):
But I worked on Capitol Hill.

Speaker 10 (01:50:48):
Some other folks of course who are on the show
have as well, and it's incredibly important when they hear
from you, they actually pay attention to that because and
you know what I learned up there is that politicians,
a lot of politics only care about a couple of things. One,
they care about their campaign contributions. I'm just going to
have real talk with folks, and the other part of
it is is their constituencies and what they constituently think.

(01:51:11):
And if you are one of those individuals, you have
power in this moment and for our community. You know,
I hope people send more messages to your role and
actually talking about health inequity that's going on across the
country and this will just contribute to that. So if
you love black people, and so many people want to
talk about how they love black folks in our community,
if you truly love, then that means that you're going

(01:51:33):
to get engaged in this moment because you want to
help to protect black lives. You want to make sure
that we're addressing the maternal issues that are going on
inside of our communities. You want to make sure that
our elders are protected and that the resources that they
work for for decades upon decades upon decades are actually
coming back to our communities. If you love black people,

(01:51:54):
then were going to make sure that we address the
wealth gap that's going on. If you love black people,
then you're going to make sure since our communities are
the ones that are disproportionately impacted from air pollution and water.
You know, we saw what happened in Flenning and Jackson
and all these other communities, then you're gonna get up
and you're gonna make that phone call because you say
you love black people. If you love black people, you're

(01:52:15):
gonna also make sure that all these jobs that we
had finally had an opportunity to come back to our
communities with advanced manufacturing, all these other types of things
where we finally we're gonna get an opportunity that we're
making sure that people understand how we feel about this.
We gonna make sure that if you love black people,
and if you love black children, and if you love
black babies, then you're gonna make sure those snap benefits

(01:52:35):
are there because we know that there's a percentage of
our community that actually utilizes those and rightly so, because
each and every one of us get up every day
and pay our taxes, and those tax dollars should come
back to our communities. So if you love black people,
understand that you have power and utilize it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:52):
Absolutely. I had somebody in the chat say rolland why
didn't lit the panel ask any question? So speaking tmcatly
Jeffers was real simple. Initially we had twenty minutes. He
came on about six minutes late. As other business, our
time got cut to eight minutes. And so hello, that's why, y'all,
this is what I do. Okay, this is what I do.

(01:53:14):
This ain't what you do, Randy.

Speaker 3 (01:53:24):
He kind of threw me off a little bit there.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
I mean, sometime you got to let the folk know that. Again,
some of y'all at home watch the NBA and you
think you can play in the NBA. But you ain't
a pro basketball player. You ain't a pro journalist. So
please stop going right to here, Randy.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
The time right now is very critical.

Speaker 14 (01:53:50):
I've seen a lot of people and I'm just saying
the interest because I love the drama and the scandal too,
But a lot of people were talking about the Diddy
verse and things, and I could honestly say, I am
so wrapped up in what's happening right now because Diddy,
at the end of the day, is one man.

Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
Yes he's a black man, but he's one man. You know,
with the family. You care about the family.

Speaker 14 (01:54:12):
But this, what's happening right now in the world, is
so incredibly critical, and it's going to affect millions and
millions of people, and particularly have a major impact on
black people. So right now, I can't even pay attention
to something so minor and as you can contrast it,

(01:54:33):
like I can't afford to pay attention because this needs
our attention everyone, like we need to be And so
if you're calling your girlfriends to be like, girl, did
you see the verdict? Or you know, whatever you're doing,
also okay, I'm not going to say what you can't do,
but also take the time to call and say, we
need you.

Speaker 3 (01:54:52):
To get right on this.

Speaker 14 (01:54:53):
We have to be active. We do have to have
our boots on the ground. I mean, this is significant.
We are looking at a time I mean, we've.

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
All got here right here, Actually I got an in
Randy right now, I need to go to Capitol Hill.
Y'all's let me see. That's not Chantel Brown, y'all, that's
Johanna Hayes, Connecticut.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
Go.

Speaker 29 (01:55:16):
Nowhere is that more apparent than with Republicans in the Senate,
where they went to great lengths to exempt certain states
from their dangerous policies in order.

Speaker 13 (01:55:24):
To secure votes.

Speaker 29 (01:55:26):
If it's so great and it doesn't cut benefits or
food to people, why was Senator Markowski trying to protect
her state at the expense of forty eight others. The
Senate worked through the night, rewriting provisions by hand to
convince the parliamentarian to approve workarounds to exempt certain states
from the most harmful provisions of this bill. They bent

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over backwards to spare some Americans from these cruel policies
to secure tax cuts for billionaires. In fact, today at
twelve forty four, President Trump tweeted, in part, and I
quote Eli may it more subsidy than any human being
in history by far, and without subsidies, Elon would probably
have to close up shop and head back to South Africa.

(01:56:09):
Republicans in Congress made it clear that they have the
power to choose who goes hungry in this country. They
have the power to choose who is harmed by this budget.
Last week, twenty three governors sent a letter to congressional
leaders to raise the alarm. If states cannot come up
with the money to replace federal funds, they will have
to cut SNAP enrollment or end their programs entirely. The

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choice was clear to protect certain Americans from going hungry.
In my home state of Connecticut, three hundred and ninety
thousand individuals are at risk of going hungry because of
this legislation. Under this legislation, Connecticut could be required to
pay up to an additional two hundred and twenty one
million annually for SNAP benefits and an additional thirty nine

(01:56:53):
million in administrative costs. These funds must come from somewhere. Connecticut,
like many other states, will be forced to choose between
feeding hungry people and using those funds for other critical
services like housing, public health, education, or even public safety.
The governor of Pennsylvania express concern that if this bill passes,

(01:57:14):
this program may end permanently in his state. We do
not have to make this choice. States should not have
to make this choice. My amendment would strike the nutrition
subtitle from this bill, eliminating these dangerous cuts and untested policies.
It would protect forty two million Americans who rely on
snalped snap to help put food on the table. It

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would ensure hungry children, seniors, and people with disabilities are
not losing benefits to pay for tax cuts for the billionaires,
the wealthiest nation in this As the wealthiest nation, we
can afford to feed our children.

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
We've heard a lot from my.

Speaker 29 (01:57:52):
Colleagues about how this bill does not cut food to
hungry children and working families, and it only applies to
able bodied adults. That is absolutely not true. If it
were true, Senator McCosky would not have been working so
hard to carve Alaska out of this provision. My amendment
is an opportunity to demonstrate our values and protect these

(01:58:16):
programs if that is what we truly want to do.
Much of what we're talking about with work requirements and
some of the other provisions, we tried to offer workarounds
for that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:28):
When this bill was first considered before the House.

Speaker 29 (01:58:31):
We offered amendment after amendment to try to make this
bill better, and every single one of them was rejected.
We should not be forcing Americans to go hungry so
that billionaires could get another tax break. As mister McGovern
said earlier, the Defense Department has never passed an audit.
Elon Musk has more subsidies than any human being, according

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to Donald Trump, in the history of humanity. So why
aren't we starting there? Why looking to take two dollars
per person per day from the most vulnerable individuals and
not having any conversation about the wealthiest, the most well connected,
and some of these defense programs that are bloated and

(01:59:14):
have never passed an audit. I urge this committee to
support my amendment. I urged the American public to read
this bill and look at these provisions and understand what
it says and who will be affected. Because at the
end of the day, it is our neighbors, it is
our friends, it is our children, it is our church communities,
it is all of the people that we represent. And
with that, I yeeal back.

Speaker 16 (01:59:35):
Thank you're Representative Hayes, Representative Brown, You're recognized, and.

Speaker 30 (01:59:39):
Thank you, Madam Chair, for the opportunity to speak on
this amendment. My amendment would strike one of the cruelest
provisions in this bill, a provision that was already bad
when the House first passed it, and then the Senate
Republicans somehow made it even worse. The big part of
the part of the big ugly bill rips food away
from seniors, with teenagers, veterans, homeless individuals, and those aging

(02:00:05):
out of our foster care system, just to hand tax
cuts to the wealthiest Americans who do not need them.
I would like to ask my Republican colleagues on this
panel the same question I did the last time I
was here. How how exactly that taking food away from
struggling families, seniors, and veterans make this country safer, stronger,

(02:00:32):
more secure, healthier or dare I even say great? And
once again you all can't answer that question because there
is no answer, no reason will justify kicking vulnerable people
off a program that gives them six dollars a day
to spend on food six dollars a day. Let's talk

(02:00:55):
about what this provision in the bill really means. It
means telling seniors who spent decades working that now they're
on their own. It means telling veterans who put on
the uniform that their service doesn't matter. It means telling
teenagers aging out of foster care. Good luck, but figure

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it out yourself. It means punishing homeless Americans who are
all ready fighting to survive. It means forcing parents with
teenage kids to choose between caregiving and feeding their families.
These are not faceless or nameless numbers. These are real

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people in your districts. And in mind, hear a few
stories from Ohio and the people that I represent. Anthony
visited the Greater Cleveland Food Bank just a few weeks ago.
He is homeless, and he is doing everything he can
to get back on his own two feet. Snap isn't
some line item on a budget to him. It is

(02:02:00):
a lifeline, a lifeline that provides just enough to prevent
him from going hungry as he searches for stability and work.
And under this bill, Anthony would have ninety days ninety days.

Speaker 3 (02:02:12):
Or he loses everything.

Speaker 30 (02:02:17):
Then there's Mary in her early sixties. She's battling serious
health issues. She's worked her entire life. She's not on Medicare,
yet not on full Social Security. She's caught in a
dangerous gap, a gap that this bill targets. That's not reform,
that's punishment. And then there's Mallory, who is carrying full

(02:02:39):
time for her ninety nine year old grandmother while raising
a teenage daughter. Because her daughter is fourteen, not thirteen,
not twelve, Mallory would be forced to get a job
or lose basic benefits for her entire household. We are
literally telling caregivers like Mallori that if if you are

(02:03:00):
not punching a clock, then you don't matter. What kind
of government does that? What does this say about who
we are as Americans? So when they vote today, I
hope my Republican colleagues remember their names Anthony Mary Mallory.

(02:03:20):
And let me set the record straight. SNAP is not
a job program, never has been, and never will be.
SNAP is a lifeline, not just a line item in
a budget. SNAP is an anti hunger program, and food
should not be some sort of reward for productivity. It

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is a basic human right and no amount of spend,
talking points or tax cuts for the rich will change that.
And with that, Madam Chair, I yield back.

Speaker 16 (02:03:57):
Thank you. Representative Horseford. You're recognized.

Speaker 13 (02:04:01):
To the chair, to the ranking member, to the members
of the committee. I'm Stephen Horsefard, representing Nevada's fourth congressional district.
I want to thank all of my colleagues here today
and those who have submitted four hundred or more amendments
to this one big, ugly bill, and I'd ask the
Chair to make those amendments in order so that we

(02:04:24):
can debate these issues on the floor in front of
the American people, because they deserve to know who who
are we here to fight for. I'm not here to
fight for Donald Trump or Elon Musk. I'm not here
to meet some deadline for the president. I'm here to

(02:04:45):
represent the seven hundred and fifty thousand people in Nevada
who elected me to do a job, and that is
to fight and to represent and to stand for the
future of them and their families. It's been months months
since my colleagues and I started sounding the alarm about

(02:05:06):
how devastating the impacts of this bill would be. And
guess what the American people see it, They feel it,
they know it, and they reject it. Just look at
the polls from Fox News to Pew. The minute voters
learn what's actually inside this bill, their answer is loud

(02:05:28):
and clear. No way, no way to cutting seventeen million
Americans off their healthcare, the biggest healthcare cut in American history.
No way to ripping food from the tables of women
and children and veterans. No way to hiking household energy
costs on working families, and no way to putting three

(02:05:51):
and a half million clean energy workers, folks who are
building up America's future out of a job, which would
be the biggest cut in history. And to do what
to line the pockets of billionaires and special interests. I
don't work for them. Even Senator Lisa Murkowski said it.

(02:06:15):
The House needs to recognize that we are not there yet. Well,
Madam Chairwoman, let me make it plain. This bill will
never be there. It's cruel, it's reckless, and it's wrong
for the American people. That's why I'm offering common sense
amendments to do what this bill refuses to do. Put

(02:06:39):
the working people of this country first. A lot has
been said about work and the dignity of work. I
want to talk a little bit about no tax on
tips and the tip workers. I represent the largest share
of tip workers in the country right now. Now, millions

(02:07:01):
of restaurant workers and tip workers in America make two
dollars and thirteen cents an hour. Madam chair two dollars
and thirteen cents an hour. Yolanda, a fountain worker who
I invited to come to hear the president talk during
his State of the Union because I wanted her to
hear directly after he made a campaign promise around no

(02:07:25):
tax on tips. I wanted her to hear the details.
You know what she feels now. No tax on tips
have become some tax on tips because for tip workers
they cap it at twenty five thousand dollars. They don't
do that. For the billionaires, it's temporary for four years.

(02:07:47):
They don't do that. For the big corporations. Temporary relief
doesn't pay permanent bills. So let's reward work and not wealth.
So here's my ask. Make no tax on temps permanent,
and let's do it right. No loopholes, and let your
and don't let your boss call wages a tip or

(02:08:09):
let someone pass a birthday gift off as a tip.
If we're serious about helping workers, you'd vote for my amendment.
But let's zoom out. This bill doesn't just hurt workers,
it devastates entire industries, like tourism. In my home state
of Nevada and in states all across this country. Tourism

(02:08:32):
is an economic lifeline, but Trump's reckless blanket tariffs are
crushing it. The numbers are staggering, sixty four billion dollars
in losses to American tourism this year alone. And while
they do that, this bill slashes funding for the Brand
USA program, proven to generate huge returns for our economy.

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For every dollar invested in Brand USA, we get another
third teen dollars and seven seventy cents back in visitors spending.
Yet Republicans are gutting it in this bill. Once again,
they are creating economic uncertainty, not producing economic opportunity. Working
families can't find homes that they can afford. Why because

(02:09:19):
Donald Trump and Republicans are making construction materials more expensive,
driving up cost for builders and home buyers alike. So
I'm offering an amendment to help fix that, to support
construction workers, reduce housing cost, and to make sure that
first time buyers actually have homes to buy. I know

(02:09:42):
my time is over, but let me just say this.
It's time that we reject this cruel, rigged, and reckless bill.
That we put the American people first, that we stand
and fight for their future and not for the billionaires
like Elon musk or Jeff Bezos.

Speaker 16 (02:10:00):
I yelled back, thank you, Representative touris You're recognized.

Speaker 1 (02:10:05):
Thank you.

Speaker 10 (02:10:05):
Good evening man.

Speaker 31 (02:10:06):
I'm chair and ranking Member McGovern. I'm here to testify
it in opposition of this Republican Reconciliation Bill and in
support of including amendments.

Speaker 1 (02:10:17):
So I know there are people watching who may say, look,
this is this thing is guarantee easton Stone. But but
the reality is it's not. It's not. People can work
to stop it. I'm gonna go to our panel and
note something. Have to go Joe and go to you first.
The reality is, again what we're laying out to people
and trying to get them to understand is that if

(02:10:37):
you are engaged, Joe's gone. I'm sorry, Sorry that signal
was frozen, so you still look like that. Randon is
real simple. We talk about politics when I always say
that the election is the end of one process in
the beginning of another. This is exactly what we're talking about.
The election is over. If you vote for Vice presid
Kamala Hair, she lost. If you want to keep bringing

(02:10:57):
that up, that's fine, But the reality is she's not there.
Don't up sitting in there and guess what. Republicans control
the house in the Senate. But this is where pressure
has to be applied. Maximum pressure. What I say to
people we already know House Democrats are not There's not
one House Democrat it's going to vote for this bill.
So if you are sitting here saying how do you

(02:11:18):
impact this here, it's simple. These are the people that
you hit. These are the people that you should be
posting on their social media. If you're watching right now, guys,
come on, switch go to my iPad, come on. If
you're sitting here watching, these are the people drop the
little third please. These are the people you should be targeting.
These are the people you should be going to their
social media on Instagram, on Twitter, on TikTok, on TikTok,

(02:11:40):
on Facebook, on snapchat. You should be checking every social
on LinkedIn, doesn't matter, saying vote no. They should be
feeling the heat. They should be inundated with phone calls.
It should be inundated with emails, inundated with tweets and
posts and targeting them. If you are a constituent, you
should be saying I'm gonna hit them two, three, four

(02:12:01):
times a day. You don't stop until the vote is taken,
no gain is over until the clock reads zero zero zero.
It's the same in politics.

Speaker 14 (02:12:14):
No one benefits from our lack of engagement but them.
No one benefits from our lack of engagement but the Republicans.
They want us to give up. They want us to
think that there is no hope. But hopeless people don't
change things. We have to be full and we only
need four people.

Speaker 3 (02:12:35):
Hakeem Jeffreys just told us we need four.

Speaker 14 (02:12:37):
We need to turn around four people. That is possible,
at least I believe it's possible. You know, I was
thinking about all the times I have been somewhat crazy
on my phone back in the day when we used
to call in radio stations to get on the radio
or request the song. I'm sure there was some man
at some point that I called over and over again.
I surely I surely can call about something that's important.

(02:13:02):
I surely can pick up my phone a few times
a day and and an effort to help everyone, to
help the American people, because we don't even have health.

Speaker 3 (02:13:13):
Care, we don't have health we have nothing.

Speaker 14 (02:13:15):
So absolutely, do not give up, do not become hopeless,
because that's what they want, and that serves.

Speaker 3 (02:13:21):
No one but them, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:13:24):
And and here's one of the things that that again,
it shows you the sheer hypocrisy and how they are liars.
And and also I'm I'm gonna explain people right now
again what happens when you don't vote the person I'm
about to show you who's an absolute liar. We could
have beat them, but a lot of us in Milwaukee

(02:13:46):
didn't vote. This is Wisconsin Santa Ron Johnson a couple
few weeks ago, which I listened to what he had to.

Speaker 27 (02:13:54):
Say, care less Jesus sais I'm concerned about my children
and my grandchildre in the fact that we are stealing
from them.

Speaker 4 (02:14:03):
We are stealing from our children and grandchildren thirty seven trillion.

Speaker 13 (02:14:06):
Dollars a debt, and we're going to add to it
as Republicans. That is unacceptable. And that's why there's no
way I'm going to vote for this bill in this
current form.

Speaker 1 (02:14:17):
Really, Center Ron Johnson said, there's no way I'm gonna
vote with this building staffa today. He did today, he did.
He's lying. And see, here's the other thing that many
people understand. Republicans love talking about how Democrats, oh, how

(02:14:38):
they just caused the debt to increase. Go to my
iPad at least y'all. This is a graphic right here
that shows you what happens with the debt when there
are Republicans and Democrats. If you look at the bluest
obviously Democrat, the red is Republican, relatively flat under Jimmy Carter,

(02:15:00):
slight increases under Bill Clinton. Every year under Ronald Reagan
and George W. Bush. The debt went up. Under George W. Bush,
debt went up. You saw Barack Obama. How you saw
the debt went up, it went down, it went up.
You saw Trump up up. You saw Biden how it
went well. Actually this is twenty twenty one, twenty twenty three.

(02:15:25):
You see that with Biden. You see that. But the
reality is that the numbers don't lie. You've had more
Democrat presidents in the past forty years that cut the
federal deficit than increased it. Not one single Republican president
in the last forty years cut the federal deficit mustafa

(02:15:48):
not one. So the so called Party of Fiscal Responsibility
in budget hawks, they have not had a president Reagan,
George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, Donald Trump for
Republican presidents, the deficit has never been cut under those

(02:16:12):
four that it's not the case with democratic presidents. You've
actually seen a cut in the federal deficit. Hmm.

Speaker 10 (02:16:25):
You know, it reminds me of that quote that says,
I can't believe what you say because I see what
you do. You know, they talk a good game, but
when you actually look at the numbers, when you actually
look at the facts, then now that tells you what
the you know, what's really playing out. So whether it
is a relationship to the deficit that continues to go

(02:16:45):
up under Republican leadership, that's one part of the equation.
Or if you look at the economy, we know that
when Democrats are in control, that in the president, that
the economy continues to grow and continues that's but unfortunately,
when Republicans are there, they end up messing it up
and then Democrats have to come back in. So that's

(02:17:07):
not you know, being in favor of democrats or Republicans,
that's just the facts, because people get all twisted around
a D and an R type of naming instead of
just looking at what do the facts tell us? And
when you look at the facts, the economy is stronger
underneath the Democrats, and the debt doesn't continue to increase

(02:17:28):
at the same level as it does under Republicans. So
that's why that quote always comes back to me, because
people will talk a good game, but you know, whenever
you actually pull back the veneer, then you find out
what the truth actually is. And unfortunately enough people are
not willing to actually do a tiny bit of research

(02:17:49):
to just answer the basic questions of is what this
person is sharing with me truthful? Or is it misleading?
Is it full of disinformation and misinformation? Just got to
change that that that paradigm if we actually want to
be able to, you know, better utilize our votes. There
there's so many people just give people their votes who

(02:18:10):
say the right things without taking a look and saying
is this truthful? And not only is this truthful, but
the actions that they have ended up doing, have they
helped my community be in a better position or have
they held us you know, where we are or even
actually taken us back in many instances.

Speaker 1 (02:18:28):
Let me also say this here before I go to Randy.
And also we have another member I believe that is
Amelia Sykes of Ohio's going to be coming up next
with the CBC member, and that if you're watching and
listening to us and you call United States Centaer, it's
too late. They aready voted, they are devoted. Okay, unless
unless the House bill looks drastically different, it's going to

(02:18:50):
go back to the Senate. Uh. And so our focus
right now is on the House, not that you a Senate.
So right now you're wasting time calling you out state senator.
We need you calling House members. That's what we need
you to do. And again, this is how, this is
how you are to refocus your energy. Calling a Democratic

(02:19:10):
House member right now, Randy, is a waste of time.
You should be But if you are, if people who
are watching or listening are represented by Democrat, yo, they're
going to vote against it. You get to targeted people
who could actually kill the bill. And that's a House Republican.
You know, Jeffrey said, we just need four Republicans to.

Speaker 3 (02:19:28):
Vote no, right, and we I mean we need to
innundate them. We need to inundate them. We I mean
we have the power. And then you know, and I
appreciate just how you outlined.

Speaker 14 (02:19:40):
And showed they and you showed all the people that
were possible that we can get them to flip, and
we only need four.

Speaker 3 (02:19:47):
That should let us know that there's an opportunity here.

Speaker 14 (02:19:50):
And I can't sleep at night if I don't feel
like I tried, Not with something this major, not with
something that affects all of our families.

Speaker 3 (02:19:57):
It certainly affects me.

Speaker 14 (02:19:59):
And so you know, let's again be filled with hope
and not give up, because what they want, I mean,
part of the reason that they move so quickly and
do so much every single day. It almost seems like
chaos is to keep us numb and to make us
feel as if we don't have any control. And I
know that not one of those you know, the we

(02:20:20):
ninety two percenters talk about we tried our best, but
we are where we are right now, and we.

Speaker 3 (02:20:26):
Still have to continue to fight some and so we
can have the best lives possible. I mean, this is
this is scary right here.

Speaker 14 (02:20:34):
This is some major issue, and I hope people are
understanding how big this is and how long the repercussions
will go on if we don't make some try to
make a difference right now.

Speaker 1 (02:20:46):
Absolutely absolutely, and so folks, we're gonna do this. We're
going to go back to the House rules Committee. Here's
the deal. I know this member's time. It should be
up real soon. And next up again, it's going to
be Congress from one Emailia Sites who is from Ohio.
Let's go back to the House Rules Committee.

Speaker 32 (02:21:04):
So much work we'll have to do to address food
and security, malnutrition, and hunger. This bill cuts benefits that
put food on the table for working families. Congress authorize
tax credits for clean wind and solar power because transitioning
to cheap, reliable, renewable energy sources will create jobs, empower
our homes during a historic heat wave that is driving

(02:21:27):
up electricity costs. This bill sunsets those tax credits, and
as millions of families struggle to make ends meet, this
bill explodes the deficit by providing trillions of dollars in
tax cuts to corporations and the Americans who need the
support the least. This Republican bill will hurt workers, it

(02:21:48):
will hurt the American people, it will hurt the economy,
and it will set us back instead of moving us forward.
Is why is so damaging and so hurtful to everyone
that we have the privilege of representing. While'll be voting
no against it, and now you'll back.

Speaker 16 (02:22:04):
Thank you, mister Menendez, Representative Psychs, You're recognized.

Speaker 22 (02:22:09):
Thank you, chair Woman Fox, bring you, Member McGovern into
all the members of this committee. Thank you for allowing
me to come and testify before you today. Just a
few weeks ago, we were gathered here to debate the
House version of this reconciliation bill, with many of us
staying up most of the night fighting for the opportunity
to advocate for our constituents. Thank you for welcoming me
back for the second time to the Rules Committee. My

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colleagues and I offered amendments to strike the cruel and
harmful for provisions in this bill that would raise costs
for Americans, including our most vulnerable individuals and families who
simply cannot afford to spend another dollar to even feed themselves,
much less pay for a billionaire tax cut. A few
weeks ago, the Republicans on this committee and in committees
across the House voted against every single one of our

(02:22:52):
amendments that would restore benefits to their constituents and lower costs,
and voted to pass his legislation on the House floor.
Last night's Senate Republicans voted against similar amendments despite constituents, businesses,
and hospitals in their states begging them to cut these
awful provisions, and yet they voted to pass this heartless
bill and Senate floor. I've said before, there are no

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coincidences in Congress, and it is clear that this legislation
and those who vote for it not only intentionally cut
plan to cut health care for millions of Americans, but
do so with determination.

Speaker 3 (02:23:25):
But we're determined to so.

Speaker 22 (02:23:28):
Here, I am just a congresswoman standing in front of
Rules Committee offering amendments that would prevent the devastation we
all know this bill will cause for our constituents, including
my amendment, to strike the section of this bill that
would cut medicate by nine hundred and thirty billion dollars,
an increase from the eight hundred and eighty billion from
just a couple of weeks ago. In my district, Medicaid

(02:23:48):
means an opportunity to live, and that is what I'm
fighting for today. Nationwide and in Ohio, about forty percent
of births are covered under Medicaid, and for black women
in Ohio, Medicaid covers seventy one point five percent of
bord births in Ohio we have some of the highest
infant mortality rates in the entire country, and for black
women and for black babies, deaths are even higher than

(02:24:08):
their white counterparts, upwards of three to four times higher.
It is no surprise, then, that Medicaid expansion reduce maternal
mortality in the states that expanded it, like Ohio. This
is literally life saving coverage, and yet this bill threatens
to take health care away from an estimated seventeen million people,
including nearly five hundred thousand Ohioans. Worse still, this bill

(02:24:28):
doesn't just take away health care from vulnerable families, especially
in rural areas. It also defunds trusted providers in our communities,
including in districts represented by Republicans. I'm talking about planned parenthood.
Last week, we saw the Supreme Court rule that states
could eliminate Medicaid reimbursement for the proprietors they disagreed with.
This is clearly a political decision aimed at creating a
nationwide abortion ban, but will have far reaching consequences beyond access.

Speaker 10 (02:24:53):
To abortion care.

Speaker 22 (02:24:54):
You should be able to see the qualified doctor that
you trust and go to plane pairhood and get screened
for cancer see birth control and get a check up.
And this bill would prohibit Medicaid reimbursements at planned parenthood
for all states. This will absolutely cause clinics to close.
Clinics like the one in Akron, which is one of
the most active in the state, where people will go

(02:25:16):
to get the low cost care that they need.

Speaker 10 (02:25:18):
Well, you may be thinking, excuse me.

Speaker 22 (02:25:22):
In my district, we are blessed to have at several
outstanding hospital systems. Other parts of the country are not
as fortunate, particularly many of the rural areas as my
Republican colleagues represent. But this bill makes cuts to Medicaid
at the provider level, cutting provider taxes and state directive
payments that allow states to fund their Medicaid program. In Ohio,
this will be upwards of sixteen billion dollars. This means

(02:25:44):
reduced services in hospital closures. Leads me to another group
of people who will be impacted by this bill, the
twenty two million health care workers who jobs are on
the line. This includes more than thirty thousand people in
my district whose livelihoods are connected to the healthcare industry.

Speaker 13 (02:25:59):
Are hospit systems are our largest employers.

Speaker 22 (02:26:01):
Our local economy would be decimated if significant population of
health care providers are suddenly unemployed, and for what a
nine hundred and thirty billion dollars cut to the healthcare system. Also,
billionaires can get a nine hundred to ten billion dollar
cut to their taxes.

Speaker 3 (02:26:16):
Again heartless.

Speaker 22 (02:26:18):
Now, I'm sure there's someone running the math out there
trying to figure out exactly how much this bill is
going to cost our rural hospitals. But it doesn't take
a genius to know that fifty billion dollars added to
the Senate bill is not enough, Madam Chair, Our seniors
rely on Medicaid and many of them as their primary
way in which they get long term care. And I
don't think that most people went into this election season
thinking that the mandate was that their grandmothers would be

(02:26:39):
kicked out of their nursing homes. Yet it is estimated
that this bill could cause one in out of every
four nursing homes to close. And so I'm mortified that
this bill has passed the Senate and it is poised
to pass the House again. To stem this devastation, I'm
offering a mimic to strike the entire section addressing.

Speaker 3 (02:26:54):
Medicaid from this bill. Again. It does not have to
be this way.

Speaker 22 (02:26:57):
We do not have to cut health care for millions.
Hospit do not need to close, and people do not
need to lose their jobs. As I close, I want
to say that just before midnight, in the state of Ohio,
Governor Might DeWine signed the States by Any And Budget.
Among many of its provisions, there was trigger language to
eliminate Medicaid expansion and significant changes to funding for SNAP programs.

(02:27:22):
By five o'clock, I received an email from the CEO
from the Akroncan Regional Food Bank, and this is what
the email said. Currently, one in seven people in our
community may be struggling with hunger. That's more than two
hundred thousand of our neighbors. As our community continues to
navigate economic hardships related to rising costs, we expect more
individuals and families to turn for us for support.

Speaker 3 (02:27:43):
Amelia.

Speaker 22 (02:27:44):
Our community deserves access to safe, nourishing food, and our
food bank needs additional support to meet this increased need.
That's why we are looking to compassionate supporters like you
who will refuse to let our neighbors go hungry. Will
you make a gift today on behalf of the food
banks in the Ohioans we serve every day. Thank you
for your generous and unfailing support during this critical time. Well, Dan,
this is what I'm doing to stand up for the

(02:28:05):
two hundred thousand people in our community. Refusing to go
away silently allowing Republicans to take away food access to
hungry people. Even more disappointing than anything else. The tie
breaking vote to pass the bill out of the Senate
came from Ohio's own Vice President, jd.

Speaker 3 (02:28:22):
Vance.

Speaker 22 (02:28:24):
He voted against the will against three hundred three million
excuse me, people who are on Medicaid in Ohio. That's
twenty five percent of the population, one point four million
who look for food assistance, nine billion dollars in payments
to hospital systems, the potential closure of eleven rule hospitals
in our state. That is what our vice president voted

(02:28:47):
for for the great state of Ohio. Mind you a
red state, So I'm under no illusion that you will
accept any of the six amendments that I'm offering to
lower our taxes, to promote work, expand earned income tax credit,
to continue to support and expand American manufacturing. But nonetheless,
I am grateful for the opportunity to sit here to

(02:29:07):
advocate for my community, for the state of Ohio.

Speaker 3 (02:29:10):
And all Americans.

Speaker 22 (02:29:11):
So again, thank you for the opportunity to speak, and
Madame chair I yelled back.

Speaker 1 (02:29:18):
All right, folks, we appreciate first of all, everybody been
on today's show. We want to thank we stop for
Randy and Joe for being on the panels sticking with us.
I know we went over our time, but we really
wanted to take this entire show and really walk you
through what's been going on, walk you through what is happening,

(02:29:40):
and understand again. Earlier today, shortly around noon, United States
Senate fifty to fifty tie three Republicans voted against Trump's
so called big beautiful bill that Bishop William Barber and
others call a big, ugly, dangerous bill. JD. Evans comes
in and breaks the tie. Okay, we know that happened
a lot with Vice President Kamala Harris breaking ties in

(02:30:03):
the Senate. The House passed a different version. Now the
bill goes back to the House. Now they have what
is called the House Senate Conference where they're resolving the differences.
So it's an issue in the House right now because
a lot of the hardcore conservatives, they want to see
more cut from more more cuts from this and trust me,
they want to see more medicaid cuts, they want to

(02:30:24):
see more cuts to food, they want to see more
cuts to low income and working class people. And so
if Speaker House Democratic Leader Jeffrey said that if four,
if four Republicans in the House vote against this bill,
it is dead. Now you've got to remember Democrats are
impacted because three House Democrats died, okay, Jerry Connelly, Garcia

(02:30:50):
as well as Mean, as well as Sevester Turner. So
the margins have changed, and so that's the issue. But
at four four Republicans vote against this, the bill dies.
And so you heard DNC Chair Ken Martin as well
as speak of Jeffrey say that they are targeting thirty
what they call thirty five vulnerable House Republicans. And these

(02:31:10):
are the thirty five that they are targeting. They're targeting
them because they are in vulnerable districts and so they
may want to pease Donald Trump, but they also don't
want to lose their position. And so these are the
thirty six. Drop the lower third, you see the number
right there, to save They say this is to say medicaid,
but it really is also also don't hurt poor people

(02:31:32):
people with food insecurity. The numbers two zero two two
two five three one two one two zero two two
two five three one two one. You heard me say
that you need to how do you check to see
who's your member of Congress? I need you to go
to go to UH, go to Google, type in how
to find your member of Congress. What you then do

(02:31:53):
is what you'll see is UH you see congress dot gov.
You click that right there, find your member right there,
you type in your zip code and then it will
show you who your member of Congress is. I want
to do this year. I want to go back quickly,
go back to the committee. Here's Congresswoman Johanna Hayes answering
questions from Sener.

Speaker 29 (02:32:10):
Jimm government that could absorb the amount of cost sharing
that will be put back on them. And even when
we talk about I mean I talk about it at
nauseum cuts to SNAP and how it will harm children.
What many people don't understand is that when students lose
their SNAP benefits, they are no longer automatically eligible for

(02:32:33):
free or reduced launch. So those school districts no longer
get those CEP community eligibility provision the reimbursements that they get,
so local districts will also have to absorb those costs.
So it's not just one thing that governors and states
have to worry about recovering funds for. It is all

(02:32:55):
of these things at the same time. And I wish
that there were some Republicans in the room too even listen,
because even if they don't make it in order, even
if they don't vote for it, I want them to
go to bed tonight with that on their heart.

Speaker 8 (02:33:08):
But there's an additional issue that needs to be discussed
in addition to.

Speaker 1 (02:33:12):
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