Texas Map Blocked, KC ‘Racist Cartel’ Case Advances, Epstein Files Vote, Memphis Guard Halted

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey folks.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Today is Tuesday, November eighth. Hey folks, today is two
the November eighteen, twenty twenty five. Coming up of roland
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A federal judges they have told Texas they cannot use

(00:24):
the map that they actually voted upon that was said
it was a racist gerrymander. They said racial jerremannery took place.
It was not partisan politics. We'll talk from Texas and
Representative Elana Jones about this huge decision and the implications
for it next year. Also, a federal judges allowing a
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Speaker 3 (02:00):
On top is rolling?

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Best believe he's going.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Lost?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Hows to politics?

Speaker 5 (02:09):
Just looks he's sold. It's rolling, He's she's piled up.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
Question.

Speaker 7 (02:29):
No, he's rolling, all right, folks.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
A huge story out of Texas where federal judges have
said that UH Texas cannot use maps that were passed
with the legislature. Remember that map that set off an
entire battle all across the country when it came to
the issue of Jared Mannering. Donald Trump called Texas Governor

(03:03):
Greg Abbot and said get me five seats. Abbot said, sure,
I'll do that. As a result, you have this huge
battle to actually pass these particular maps. Well, of course
you remember Democrats walked out and they said, hey, we
can't stick around for this. Well, the federal judges have
now ruled that, guess what, can't use the maps. And

(03:26):
here's the deal. You got to trade. General Ken Paxton say,
these far left judges. Well, the judge brought the opinion
was a Trump appointee. This is what US Judge Jeffrey
Brown said, again a pointed by Donald Trump. He said,
the public perception of this case is that it's about politics.
To be sure, politics played a role in the drawing

(03:48):
the twenty twenty five map, but it was much more
than just politics. Substantial evidence shows that Texas racially jerry
mandert the ty and twenty map. Brown order of the
twenty twenty six congressional election quote, shall proceed under the
map that the Texas legislature and actually in twenty twenty one. Now,

(04:10):
of course, Ken Paxton said, they're going to appeal this
case to the Supreme Court. So here's the deal. All right,
this right here, okay, propose this is current. So these
maps right here, this is exactly right now, how everything
is constituted? And so what did you have you have
Mark vccat in Dallas. You had jas mccrocketts seat in Dallas.

(04:33):
When you go down to Houston, you had, of course
our Green seat the ninth congressional district. Then you have
the eighteenth congressional district. That seat has yet to be
feeled because Abbott has been screwing around. He's even called
that special election between Christian Minifie as as a man.
That air was to take place January thirty first, So
those folks would have gone over eleven months with our
member of Congress. This yere was the map that Texas

(04:56):
actually passed that eliminated eliminated Crockett's district, eliminated Green's district.
They moved Green into the ninth dish, moved Green from
the ninth of the eighteenth. And so what would that
would do? That would eliminate five Democrats. Two of those
be African American joining us right now. Texas State Representative

(05:18):
Jealama Jones. Of course, she was on the committee, this
so called Bipartisan Reditionary Committee. And here's the deal. They
kept saying over and over, Jelanda. They kept trying to
tell Democrats, do not talk about fair maps, do not
talk about you know, in terms of you know what's fair.
And also Jerry Man and said, no, you have to
call it racist, Jered Mandry. And so here you have

(05:41):
this Trump appointed federal judge saying indeed, race was at
the heart of the changing of these maps for sure.

Speaker 8 (05:51):
And you remember rolling every time you saw me during
the corn break, I kept saying Collingwood, it is racist, racist,
and is racist some more because our talking points where
it's political. Trump wants five republicancies blah blah blah, and
I'm like, no, that's not illegal. So I'm thankful that
our fleeing from the FBI and injustice was worth it.

(06:14):
But I'm going to hold my fingers rolling about the
Supreme Court in the Louisiana versus LA case because all
these Voting Rights Act cases are going to hinge on
what the Supremes do in that case. I'm almost certain
you're familiar with that. If you're not out, I'm happy
to it.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah. I mean, well, first of all, because of how
the rules are, the only place they can appeal this
decision is the Texas excuse me, the United States Supreme Court. Now,
people have to understand something that this decision was a
three judge panel again Brown Trump appointee who also clerked
for Greg Abbott. Okay, then you have in this same

(06:55):
person with the former Texas Supreme Court justice, you have
another federal judge at point of President Barack Obama. Uh.
And then you had another judge, dear Smith a pointed
by Reagan cast a dissenting vote. He's gonna release his
own opinion. And so yeah, it's now here's the issue timing,
now dictate Everything's this because the deadline to file for

(07:18):
next year is December A. So the problem is we're
like three weeks away. So here's the issue. They can appeal,
but if Supreme Court doesn't take it up, or issues
or and again, the Supreme Court does have a precedent
where they've done this before. We did it, did it
in Louisiana and then Georgia. But they said, hey, even

(07:39):
though a lower court rule this, we're gonna freeze everything
in place. So they could freeze uh, they could freeze
not the current map, they could freeze this proposed map
by saying, well, we know what they said, but it's
too it's it's too late for the beginning changes. So
we're gonna freeze this in place. But they can also

(08:00):
say where to go to lower court and freeze it
in place and still hear the arguments later. So you know.
But the bottom line is Republicans, they are banking on
this right wing court siding with them.

Speaker 9 (08:12):
I agree with that Roland. And here's the deal.

Speaker 8 (08:15):
If the Calais case out of Louisiana, if the Supremes
keep the Voting Rights Act Section two of the Voting
Rights Act, then I think that the Supremes are going
to affirm what this three judge panel did. But if
they viscerate the Voting Rights Act, where they're saying, to
comply with the Voting Rights Act, where you create a

(08:38):
district based on race like they did in Louisiana because
they cut a black district out, and in order to
remedy them cutting out a black district, then Louisiana created
a second black district.

Speaker 9 (08:52):
Then the non black.

Speaker 8 (08:53):
Folks sued on that twenty twenty four map, and that's
where we are. What's really interesting about the case out
of Louisiana is that the Supreme Court had them argue
that case in March of this year and then had
them come back on October fifteenth to re argue, which
is incredibly rare, And the issue is is the Voting

(09:14):
Rights Act constitutional? Does the Voting Rights Act violate the
Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendment? So I don't know where they're
going to land story. Decisives has always said since we
got the Civil Rights Act that the Voting Rights Act
Section two and the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendment Equal Protection

(09:36):
Clause worked together. So this is the first time we've
had a Supreme Court saying does the Body Rights Act
Section two violate the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendment? In otherwise,
in other words, is a Voting Rights Act constitutional? That
scares the shit out of me? True story?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well, well, he is the thing here. Okay, So the
Supreme Court previously ruled that if it's a partisan jered entering,
they served no role, no purpose, as left up to
the states. But the Supreme Court, depending upon this Louisiana case,
the Supreme Court can still rule on racial jerry mannering.

(10:13):
Here's the problem for Texas. Texas deciditude argument for the courts.
Oh no, this was a partisan jerry mander. Here's the problem.
Trump was so stupid, thankfully that his own Department of
Justice sent a letter to Texas saying your this map.

(10:39):
This map, they said, this map was racially done. Texas
was in court arguing that this map had no racial
intent in it, so they were supporting that. So then
all of a sudden, the letter comes. Well, then happens. Abbott,
in his proclamation calling for a special session says, we

(11:03):
have to do this in response to the Justice letter.
So this is what Judge Brown said, which is hilarious.
Judge Brown literally writes the governor explicitly. First of all,
Brown said, read the Texas to being a story. Brown

(11:24):
said it was difficult to analyze the DOJ letter because
it contained quote so many factual, legal and typographical errors,
but the fact that the state leaders had pointed to
the letter repeatedly as the impetus for redistioning was enough.
Quote the governor explicitly directed the legislature to draw a

(11:46):
new US House map to resolve DOJ's concerns. In other words,
the governor explicitly directed the legislature to redistrict based on rapes.
In press appearances, the governor plainly and expressly disavowed any
partisan objective and instead repeated repeatedly stated that his goal

(12:11):
was to eliminate coalition districts and create new majority Hispanic districts.

Speaker 9 (12:20):
But Rowland, you.

Speaker 8 (12:20):
Know, I was there right and you know, do other
redistricting hearings. I literally said that DJ letter is wrong.

Speaker 9 (12:27):
On the law, and if you will recall Roland.

Speaker 8 (12:30):
At the first redistricting sham meetings, the my colleagues were
saying that it's based on the DJ letter, it's based
on the DJ letter, it's based on the DJ letter.
By the time they got to the actual hearing at
the Capitol, somebody told them, hey, man, this is actually racist.

Speaker 9 (12:52):
Y'all now have to say it's partisan.

Speaker 8 (12:54):
So my colleagues, the Republican ones at one stage of
the game, were saying, and we're lying on the DNJ
letter right right then and then and then right after that,
after somebody said y'all build, y'all stupid, y'all racist, Then
they flipped the script which all that testimony came out
in the hearing. And I kept saying to my Democratic
colleagues who did not want to call racism racism, he

(13:17):
got to call it racism, you.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Heard me, the Brolin sisten, I got to call it race.

Speaker 9 (13:21):
You and I won the same thing listen.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I talked to Commissioner Tan County Commissioner Lisa Simmons. She
said to me that they were at a rally in
Tarrn County and they were handed the lucky the language
to say, and all these Democrats kept getting up there,
kept saying fair maps, fair maps, and she was like,

(13:44):
what the hell are y'all doing. So when she went up,
she says, no, these are racist, jerry mandred maps. And
you kept saying, hey, dumbasses, if you don't say racist maps,
we're gonna lose. When we go to court. They're going
to use your own words against you. So here's the deal. So,

(14:05):
abbs problem is they use their own words. In fact,
this is so hilarious this. Abbott released the statement. He
said that it was absurd to say the maps were
drawn with discriminator discriminatory intent. He said, the legislature redrew
our congressional maps to better reflect Texans conservative voting purposes,

(14:26):
and for no other reason. This ruling is clearly erroneous
and undermines the authority of the US Constitution assigned to
the Texas legislation by imposing a different map by judicial edict. Dude,
you literally put the doj letter in your proclamation.

Speaker 10 (14:44):
He did.

Speaker 8 (14:45):
But but Roland, here's a shit show that is now
going on right now currently, Congressman Green filed for Texas eighteen,
right because in the new maps, sixty five percent of
the new Texas eighteen came from Texas nine and it
only stayed twenty five percent intact.

Speaker 9 (15:06):
You cannot file for two separate seats, right, you can't
be on the ballot.

Speaker 8 (15:10):
So Congressman Green has got to decide do I come
back out of Texas eighteen right and file for Texas
nine because right now, his Texas nine is what it
is currently. Because if the Supremes come back after it
and they say, no, we've changed the Voting Rights Act,

(15:31):
it violates the fourteenth to fifteenth Amendments of the Eco
Protection of the Constitution, then he's shipped out of luck
and he's out.

Speaker 9 (15:39):
He's the person with the hardest decision to make.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
It is well, well, first of all, let's be real clear,
he is a hard decision. Again, everybody watching, this is
the current map. This is the current map right here. Okay,
this is the current map, all right, So now you're talking.
So what she's talking about is how things are right
now in terms of five districts, Democrat talking about where

(16:03):
Green is in the ninth, the eighteenth, and then of
course you have the thirtieth with Jasmine Crockett. Then you
got Mark VC. You got to see their okay, third third,
here's the other problem, y'all. This is the proposed map.
So here's the issue. This is the problem, Okay, dailaighte
December eighth. So here's a conundrum for Green, but also Crockett,

(16:23):
because Crocket's decide, well, do I foul to run in
the new district, which is where VC is. VC is
talking about possibly running for Tannan County. Judge Crockett may
run for the United States Senate. And so here's the

(16:47):
So here's so here's the problem. It's all the stuff
going on. So to your point, if because you don't
know what the Supreme Court is going to do, the
limbo is very simple. Were over Supreme Court freezing place
the new Republican map or will they say let's freeze

(17:09):
in the place the old map. That's literally where we are.

Speaker 8 (17:15):
So so Congressman Green, as I said before, he's gonna
get are re elected in the current Texas nine under.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
The new text of I'm sorry when he said the
current textas nine means like what it is now?

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Right?

Speaker 2 (17:27):
What it is now?

Speaker 9 (17:28):
Meaning he's one, he's been there twenty years.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
His original nine Congression diation.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Got it right.

Speaker 8 (17:34):
But the new nine literally has been created for a
Republican So and they took sixty five percent of his
current YEP Texas nine and moved it to the eighteen
and moved it into eighteen.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
So he s side, do I file?

Speaker 8 (17:54):
He's already filed for eighteen, which was thirty two hundred dollars,
so he so.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
He has to by the deadline, does he withdraw that
and file for the ninth, hoping the Supreme Court freezes
in place? Was now what's now? Or risk or risk.

Speaker 8 (18:19):
The Supreme in the Republican district that he currently that
he represents that number, right, So the person that's getting
the royal screwing is Congressman Al Green.

Speaker 9 (18:30):
And let me be clear, in.

Speaker 8 (18:32):
This lawsuit you will see plaintiffs and planets intervener Alexander Green.

Speaker 9 (18:37):
So he literally is fighting.

Speaker 8 (18:39):
He is fighting to keep you see his name, and
he a person stands to lose the most.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Well, the problem now is the peel goals of Supreme Court,
and with the Supreme Court freezing, place the current map
on the new map.

Speaker 8 (19:01):
But the Calite case Louisiana Roland, which they've been considering
since at least October fifteenth or before that, but the
latest oral arguments, they've had that long enough to make
a damn ruling before us in base.

Speaker 9 (19:16):
So if they don't make it, shame on them.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Well we have seen how they can move fast when
they want to, or some Muslo when they want to.
They represented Jelena John's. We appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (19:28):
Thank lot, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Roland, all right, thanks a bunch. Gott to go to break.
We'll come back. We'll talk with our panel. But all
this drama coming out of Texas. You're watching Roland Bark
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Speaker 11 (19:40):
This week on the other side of change, book bands,
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This is a coordinated backlash to progress. At the end
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(20:08):
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Next on the Black Table with me Greg car Our
Legal Roundtable is back in session as we look at
yet another potential landmark case being considered by the United
States Supreme Court. This one is called three to zero
three Creative versus a Linus and maybe the most important
and our reaching first Amendment that is freedom of speech

(20:37):
case of our tech.

Speaker 10 (20:39):
It could, depending on how.

Speaker 14 (20:40):
The court rules, open the door for a return of
Jim Crow's segregation laws.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
It's true.

Speaker 15 (20:47):
If you say we can discriminate against one, you're saying
we can discriminate against all.

Speaker 14 (20:52):
That's on the next Black tape. Don't miss it right
here on the Black Star Network.

Speaker 16 (20:59):
If in this country right now, you have people get
up in the morning and the only thing they can
think about is how many people they can hurt, and
they've got the power.

Speaker 9 (21:08):
That's the time for morning, for better or worse.

Speaker 17 (21:11):
What makes America special, it's that legal system that's supposed
to protect minorities from the tyranny of the majority.

Speaker 18 (21:19):
We are at a point of a moral emergency. We
must raise a voice of outrag we must raise a
voice of compassion, and we must raise a voice of unity.

Speaker 16 (21:34):
We are not in a crisis of party versus party.
We are in a crisis of civilization, a human rights crisis,
and a crisis of democracy itself.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
And guess what.

Speaker 16 (21:46):
You've been chosen to make sure that those that would destroy,
those that would hate, don't have the final say, and
they don't ultimately win.

Speaker 19 (21:58):
Hey, I'm Tasha con Roland.

Speaker 9 (22:00):
Martin unfeltering, but I need a little filter.

Speaker 8 (22:03):
I need something, blow me out, let me a little
thud it bite.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
All right, folks, let's bring up our panel right now.
I'm glad to have them here. Do the Monstphaeiantego, a
lead former Senior Advisor Environmental Justice at the EPA, joined
me out of Washington. D c ran Dy Bryant. She
is d I disruptor, entrepreneur, office speaker, creator of a
truth in game. I'm a DC. Joe Richardsonson, Right's attorney
out of LA glad to have all three of you here. Joe,

(22:34):
I'll start with you, this is a legal conundrum. We're
in this very weird space here because we can sort
of guess the Supreme Court may side with the Republicans.
The problem is, this is the same Supreme Court that

(22:55):
rule that the Opportunity District in Alabama should be created
because it was a civil rights a I'm sorry, what
Way's Act Section two. They allowed Louisiana. They allowed Louisiana
see to go forward as well. So the problem is
we don't know where the hell this court is.

Speaker 20 (23:14):
Yeah, we don't know where they are, and we don't
know whether or not they would look to preserve the
status quo.

Speaker 21 (23:20):
Often when there is an early an early thing like
a tro o basically is what you're asking for when you.

Speaker 22 (23:29):
Say that it looks like I'm going to win.

Speaker 20 (23:31):
So therefore this ought to be held in place where
this ought to be stopped.

Speaker 22 (23:35):
That's basically what this dream three judge panel is saying.

Speaker 21 (23:39):
Interestingly, the Republicans are majoring in the art of deflection here.

Speaker 22 (23:44):
While they claim that we're being.

Speaker 20 (23:48):
Racial, the fact of the matter is they got pointed
out for being racial themselves.

Speaker 22 (23:52):
And the judge, who was a Trump judge, great minds.

Speaker 21 (23:55):
Thinking like I made out to read the same first
paragraph that you read at the top of the show,
the idea that this is a racist jerry mander.

Speaker 22 (24:03):
And as of now you cannot.

Speaker 21 (24:06):
Racially jerry manner, you can politically jerry mander.

Speaker 20 (24:11):
Which is the short of it. You know, there's a
racist chair manner. And what they said is that because
it's a coalition district, any district that's a coalition district
where two.

Speaker 22 (24:19):
Or more minority party minority.

Speaker 21 (24:21):
Groups form to form the majority, they come together to
form the majority, that therefore you skip and it's unconstitutional
and therefore you have to undo it.

Speaker 22 (24:30):
And that's patently wrong. And that's what this decision said.

Speaker 21 (24:33):
But the question becomes, to your point, what this Supreme
Court is going to do on this Louisiana case, Because
if they decide that a racist jerry manner, a race
based jerry mander.

Speaker 20 (24:46):
Is okay and not just if there's some incidental effect,
then theoretically we would be.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Out of up.

Speaker 20 (24:54):
But the worst part about it all, to the point
that you're making, is that this Supreme Court has been
so inconsistent and so fill in the blank that you
don't even know whether they will approach this with a
proper amount of measure, right. So that's as important and
as dangerous as anything.

Speaker 23 (25:15):
The idea that they jump to a conclusion, or they
jump and ignore so much precedent related to the Voting
Rights Act, etc.

Speaker 22 (25:26):
Even if they do that slowly, it's not good news, right.

Speaker 20 (25:29):
But in any event, the Republicans know that the decision
that happened today is bad news.

Speaker 22 (25:34):
And this reminds you Donald Trump will never fail.

Speaker 20 (25:38):
He talks before he thinks, and he says things, and
he has people in the Justice Department right things and
mispell them and not do it the right way, even.

Speaker 22 (25:49):
Where they're in complete sentences.

Speaker 20 (25:51):
They have them say things where now the judge has
used their very words against them. This is what happens
when you speak before you think, when you're not strategic.

Speaker 22 (26:02):
It's not let's just hammer it. Let's just do what
we want to do. We'll worry about the rules later.

Speaker 20 (26:05):
There are some judges, including as it turns out, some
Trump judges, that are worried about the rules, and that
are concerned about the rules. And so this is a
sound decision. We just have to see how long it lasts.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
You know, Masada, again, this is a whole lot that's
going on here and what's hanging in the ballance really
is these five seats going to be critical? And also,
if I'm correct and I got to pull it up,
I think California their measure also was continue that if

(26:38):
Texas seats got reversed and their thing doesn't take effect.
So there's like a whole domino effect here.

Speaker 24 (26:46):
Yeah, there definitely is.

Speaker 25 (26:48):
I think the question will also be there a couple
of others who have already done some jerremand and also
Missouri and the People's North Carolina as well. You know,
as you said, it's the dominoes continue to fall, but
maybe the dominoes need to fall because we shouldn't have
jerry mandry.

Speaker 24 (27:03):
We should make sure that we have fair maps.

Speaker 25 (27:05):
You know, it's interesting, you know, we come on the
show and we continue to raise that these people are
not ready for prime time. You can tell it by
you know, the documents that they put forward that are
not prepared you know, properly, which blows my mind.

Speaker 24 (27:18):
I remember going through.

Speaker 25 (27:19):
A review after review after review of documents whenever we were,
you know, submitting different types of things, and then for
them to actually get their hand caught.

Speaker 24 (27:26):
In the cookie jar. You know that July seventh letter
from the.

Speaker 25 (27:30):
Civil Rights Division, So you know that they continue to
make mistakes, but we also understand that there are courts
that often will you know, support them even though they're
not bringing forward everything that would normally be necessary. The
other thing that I want to say real quickly, Roland,
is that you know, I appreciate note of this show
and the congress woman who was on and others who

(27:52):
continue to make sure that we don't sugarcoat stuff. Because
when we sugarcoat stuff and we don't call it what
it is, Joe just said it, you know, racial, Jeri
Manning is eagle. We got to continue to make sure
that we're doing that. And then the last thing is,
of course, you know you had mentioned about the Supreme
Court and how quickly they might might move. Remember in
twenty twenty one, that heartbeat law they're in Texas. I

(28:12):
think it was US versus Texas was one of those
cases that moved rather quickly. That week was around thirty
nine days. So folks should still continue to you know,
stay focused, continue to push, continue to highlight these injustices
that are going on, because nothing is settled until it's settled.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
You know, The thing that we have to understand here, Randy,
is that these are monumone decisions. This is not just
about okay, five hours of Congress. It's who people are
going to be represented by. And we can't overlook that.
And we talked about who they represented by. That also
impacts millions and billions of dollars.

Speaker 26 (28:53):
Yeah, absolutely, and it's going to affect you know, every decision,
every household, how people live, the rights that they have.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
It's going to have major impact.

Speaker 26 (29:02):
And if we're really honest, we're really trying to see
if these judges are going to show their do their
jobs and uphold the law, or are they going to
uphold their allegiance to Trump.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
I think that's what we have seen a lot in
the past.

Speaker 26 (29:17):
But now Trump is even shaking someone shaking judges whom
he appointed, and I think that he's pushed them too farward.
They're saying, wait a minute, I do have to uphold
the law and I can't go forward with pulling up
you know what you're asking me to do. And that
is making me somewhat happy, but I think it's what's
making us also nervous, because are they going to continue

(29:40):
in the way that it seems that if we look
at the cases the last few weeks, that judges, even
judges that he appointed, our past Republican presidents have appointed,
are saying this is enough, let me stand by and
uphold the law, or are we going to show an
allegiance to the party.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
And I think that is what is making our stomachs.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
And you know what you've seen as you've seen this
schizophrenic chord with their rulings, and so we don't know,
but we're certainly going to stay on top of this
because this has huge, huge, huge, huge implications for all
across the country. All right, I want to do a
quick break, come back, tell you about this case out

(30:30):
of Kansas City. That's unbelievable. Everybody kept saying system integration
doesn't exist. That's a lot back in the moment.

Speaker 11 (30:45):
Slight of change book fans, anti intellectualism, and Trump's continued
war on wisdom.

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of the day, conservatives realized that they couldn't win a
debate on facts instead of using our language against us
right number when we were all woke and the woke movement.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
And all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 27 (31:04):
Now everything is anti.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Woke right when we were talking about.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Including diversity, equity, inclusion, and higher education.

Speaker 12 (31:09):
Now it's antidi all this our efforts to suppress the truth,
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Our Legal Roundtable is back in session as we look
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United States Supreme Court. This one is called three to
zero three Creative versus a Linus and maybe the most
important and far reaching First Amendment that is freedom of speech.

Speaker 10 (31:41):
Case of our type. It could, depending on how the.

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Court rules, open the door for a return of gym
pro segregation laws.

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It's true.

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Speaker 2 (32:58):
A fellow Johnny Letting. A major ree Co lawsuit move
forward in Kansas City against an all white board that
is accused of running Westport's night life scene like a
racist cartel. If the center is a secret good neighbor
agreement allegedly used to shut out black owned businesses. Audio
recordings show board members threatening owners who wouldn't comply. The

(33:20):
lawsuit says even kept the band playlist targeting popular black artists.
Judge Roseanne ketshbark Now says there's enough evidence of a
coordinated discriminatory conspiracy to proceed to trial. Attorney Cecilia Brown,
who filed a lawsuit, joined us right now. I'm glad
to have you here on rolling but unfiltered.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Thank you so much for having.

Speaker 31 (33:41):
What the hell that is precisely what I said, What
we have in front of us is a racketeering scheme.
I have myself come into contact with at least five
businesses who have.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Been victim to this racketeering scheme.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Right now.

Speaker 31 (34:00):
I represent two Euphoric LLC and the Source LLC, and
my partner, Stephen Williams represents Unique LLC.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Okay, so how long has this been allegedly going on?

Speaker 31 (34:13):
So we have a recorded audio from the past executive
director of the Westport Community Improvement District saying that they
have been doing this since twenty thirteen.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
And so for folks who are not from there, describe
this Westport area? What is this area for sure?

Speaker 31 (34:36):
So, Kansas City has three major entertainment districts. One of
them is the Westport District. The Westport District is reserved
for nightlife, kind of the bar scene. That's where the
popular clubs would be. The other entertainment districts are more

(34:57):
like shopping and different concert venues.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
So the Westport District is.

Speaker 31 (35:01):
Located near midtown of Kansas City. It is quite literally
the midpoint of where every community kind of converges, and
so to learn that there has been such a scheme
to make sure that black entrepreneurs are not able to
benefit in the same place that they take black dollars,

(35:23):
it wouldn't be a surprise to Kansas Citians, but it's
huge as a legal case in Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
So this Westport area, So what you're saying, it's like,
if you go to Kansas City, it's the entertainment sort
of mecca where people are going to go, and I'm
assuming it gets lots of black black consumers.

Speaker 31 (35:47):
Absolutely, Like I said, it is located basically at the
convergence of all of the communities there. It has a
ton of black consumers. Westport is actually one of the
only places that you can go to.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
If you don't want to have.

Speaker 31 (36:07):
A stuffy nightlife, if you actually want to be entertained
in Kansas City. Unfortunately, there have been known efforts to
make sure that black patrons stay out, including having a
banned list.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Of DJs who can play there.

Speaker 31 (36:23):
All of them are black DJs, a banned list of
black artists who can play, including names like Beyonce Drake.
These are people who are constantly in the top ten
to ban those type of artists and citing, you know,
that they incite violence. It is quite frankly the dog

(36:44):
whistle that it sounds like.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
I mean, So, first of all, how long has this
Westport area been around?

Speaker 4 (36:51):
You know, that's a great question.

Speaker 31 (36:52):
So this Westport area has been around since the eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
In fact, one of the businesses still low.

Speaker 31 (37:01):
The building excuse me, still located in Westport used to sell.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
An auction and say enslaved black people.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
That's some rich history there, and you're representing services. But
how long have other business owners complained for years about
not being able to get in here?

Speaker 3 (37:27):
You know?

Speaker 4 (37:28):
So one thing that we're finding is.

Speaker 31 (37:30):
That there have been many complaints not just with black
business owners who have not been able to obtain elise
or sustain elise. That's been going on for years. But
as we're going through the discovery, what we're finding is
that other businesses also feel like they were forced to

(37:51):
sign this good neighbor agreement, either by extortion, bribery or corercion.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
We also believe, based.

Speaker 31 (37:58):
On the discovery that we have, that agents of Kansas
City have been involved in this racketeering scheme as well.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
So this is really far reaching.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
It really is.

Speaker 31 (38:15):
It's, unfortunately what we know to be how systemic racism
continues and grows.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
You have the ultra wealthy who don't.

Speaker 31 (38:25):
Want to have to share or split their money with
people that they deem unworthy, and you have systems in
place who have agents in them who are going to
give preference to those ultra wealthy, who all under the
guise of we're keeping Kansas City safe. Even though Westport

(38:45):
Entertainment District has been the scene of so many murders
in Kansas City.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Based on what.

Speaker 31 (38:53):
These defendants are saying, they would be blaming that on
black people, but not one black business owner is occupying
one of the two hundred and fifty one businesses out there,
and they've made sure of that.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Questions from my panel Joe.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
You first, Wow, this is unbelievable.

Speaker 20 (39:13):
I've got family in Kansas City, so a lot of
connections to the city.

Speaker 21 (39:16):
This is excellent work. I have a two part question.
One question, is the extent of the relief that you're
looking for. I assume it's probably both monetary and injunctive.
And then the other thing I'm wondering is is this
a revelation to people in Kansas City, or is this
something that it's like, well, okay, looks like the game

(39:38):
is up, looks like the jig is up, versus them
really not knowing that this was going on and that
this was always going on behind the scenes.

Speaker 20 (39:45):
How informative is this for people that have been there
for years and years and years.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
Thank you for those questions.

Speaker 31 (39:51):
So, first, this is not a revelation to the people
in Kansas City. If you look at any of the
thousands of comments that have have been left on different
media websites about this, black people and brown people know
that this is what's going on. I think the revelation
is coming to those property owners and they'll CIV members

(40:14):
that someone is finally standing up and having the resources
to fight back.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
As to your other question, you are correct.

Speaker 31 (40:22):
We are obviously going for monetary damages, but also injunctive relief.
Right now, we are in the appeals process on a
tro that we have had a hearing about already.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
On October sixth.

Speaker 31 (40:38):
The judge, in our opinion, failed in her duty to
correctly analyze the law, so we are currently appealing in
the Eighth Circuit.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Well great, thanks Randy, Hi, thanks for being here.

Speaker 26 (40:55):
I sadly have heard of cases like this in other towns,
and so what I'm one during is there a case
history that you're referencing where we have seen other black
and brown businesses block out of the area and they
have successfully.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Worked to resolve that issue legally.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
Thank you for your question, Randy.

Speaker 31 (41:16):
So I have not personally seen another case that quite
mirrors the facts of this case. However, what I am
relying on is the well known knowledge of restrictive covenants
and redlining. This is just a repeat of that. What
oppressors do is nothing new. The game is always rigged

(41:36):
in the same way, and so that's what we're comparing this.

Speaker 27 (41:40):
To as of now.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Stop.

Speaker 24 (41:47):
Yeah, well again, thank you for everything that you're doing.

Speaker 25 (41:49):
You know, I was listening and I was thinking, this
is like a twenty first century burning down.

Speaker 24 (41:53):
Of black businesses without the fire.

Speaker 25 (41:55):
I'm just curious about how do we help our folks
to have a better understanding of navigating these types of situations.
I know there's a legal process, but there's also an
educational process, I would assume.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Thank you for that question, Mustapha.

Speaker 31 (42:12):
I think that's one of the most important questions that
I could have answered tonight. You know, Unfortunately, because black
people were kept out of business for so long, we
haven't always had the resources. We don't know when someone
is preaching a contract, we don't know when we're being
taken advantage of.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
And so with this case, what we hope to do is.

Speaker 31 (42:34):
Garner national attention to educate people that this is what's
happening and this is what it looks like. I know
in Kansas City, the Jackson County Bar Association holds kind
of lunch and learns for citizens and residents to come
in and kind of learn some of those basic legal tenants,

(42:56):
whether it be in contract law and criminal law, to
try to better your the residents. And I think that
there are many local African American bar associations that do
the same thing.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
This is uh the reality of being black in America,
and thank goodness there are lawyers and we can't wait
to see this proceed forward to see what the response is.
So so Cilia, your great job and keep us a
breast of what happens in this case.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Absolutely, thank you for your time.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
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Next on the Black Table with me Greg Kolp. Our
Legal Roundtable is back in session as we look at
yet another potential landmark case being considered by the United
States Supreme Court. This one is called Trio three Creative
versus A Linus and may be the most important and
far reaching first amendment, that is freedom of speech. Case

(46:11):
of our tech, it could, depending on how to court rules,
opened the door for a return of Jim Crow's segregation laws.

Speaker 27 (46:19):
It's true.

Speaker 15 (46:20):

Speaker 14 (46:25):
That's on the next Black tape. Don't miss it right

Speaker 32 (46:33):
Violent white supremacy is quote the most persistent and lethal
threat in the.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Homeland, the greatest terrorist threats of the homeland.

Speaker 30 (46:41):
Just the homegrown viol strength, including hate crime committed on
behalf of some kind of white supremacist ideology.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
They are coming after that. Everything in the Black American
MAGA and Donald Trump are specifically targeting Black America. They
are going after the money attack, black lives attack, critical
race Attacklei Magna wants to defund Black America. There's some
perfect example of their desire to completely degrain and de

(47:12):
emphasize Black people.

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Speaker 9 (47:39):
Spread the word.

Speaker 6 (48:01):
In in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in in

(48:43):
in in in.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Well, folks, all of the Jeffrey Epstein files are going
to be released. The House voted four hundred and twenty
seven to one. It was hardcore Trump supporter Clay Higgins
who was the one claiming he voted no because it
did not offer enough protections for the victims. Well, and

(49:39):
the way the Senate ruled, like literally the moment it
went to the Senate, was it automatically passed. It wasn't
even a vote. Now goes to Trump to sign. He
said he he's going to sign. And this was after
many of those victims stood outside of Capitol Hill today
demanding they were laid at there by Republican Thomas Massey

(50:03):
of Kentucky, who has been one of the leading voices
on this issue. And again they testified they were putting pressure.
Commission Roll Connor was one of these people. And also
you may have noticed during Sunday's football games this commercial
here was put out by the victims and also put

(50:23):
a face on this absolutely crazy sex trafficking case.

Speaker 13 (50:43):
I suffered so much pain, so much pain, so much pain.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
I suffered so much pain.

Speaker 13 (50:53):
I was fourteen years old, I.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Was sixteen years old.

Speaker 6 (50:56):
I was sixteen.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Seventeen, fourteen years old.

Speaker 19 (50:59):
This was me.

Speaker 13 (51:01):
This is me when I met Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 26 (51:03):
This is me when I met Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 9 (51:11):
They're about a thousand of us.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
It's time to bring the secrets out of the shadows.
It's time to shine a light into the darkness. Oks again,

(51:42):
maximum pressure being applied. That happened. Also, they stood in
front of the Capitol to day testifying, and what was
interesting was to listen to Speaker Mike Johnson just offer
more complaints and complaints and complaints. He was blaming Democrats
for the problem. He was doing all of that, and

(52:06):
it was falling on deaf ears, and so he tried everything.
Mike Johnson tried everything not to allow this to come
to pass. Remember it was that Arizona Democrat who was
elected to fill the seat of her deceased father, who
was the two hundred and eighteen votes vote to discharge
to do for the discharge petition forcing this to be

(52:29):
voted upon on the House floor. They had no choice
whatsoever to do this, and so he never wanted his
day to come and listen to the White House is
putting pressure. Meeting with Republican members like Lauren Bobert, and
she was like, no, the victims deserved to have this.
And so even Trump could not get some of his

(52:50):
biggest supporters. He has been in a war of words.
He's been a war of words with Margerit Tine La
Green over this issue. Has been an extremely contentious battle
for some time. And I tell you it turned into
a bipartisan deal. And Trump and the Republicans did not

(53:13):
want these files to be released. Not sure why, but
they did not want them to release. Here is here's
one of the Epstein survivors speaking today.

Speaker 34 (53:24):
And for too long, truth has been buried, survivors have
been silenced, and powerful people have been protected. And today
we stand in a moment that will decide whether our
government still belongs to the American people or to those
who pray on them. Because when mountains of evidence, in

(53:45):
decades of victim reports across five administrations still lead to
sweetheart deals or no prosecution at all, this isn't just
one case gone wrong. It's an institutional failure on a
historic scale, and every member of Congress and this administration

(54:06):
must answer for that failure.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
So, folks, but not only that, I mean this, so
much happened in this In fact, Democrats and Republicans had
to deal with this. In fact, Stacey Plasquet, the delegate
from the Virgin Islands, when Democrats released paperwork what happened
there was they showed that Epstein was texting her doing

(54:32):
a hearing, and Republicans jumped on that saying she was
doing the bidding of Jeffrey Epstein. She took to the
floor today to explain her position. What happened. I'm gonna
find that clip for you in a second, But it
really was. It really was an unbelievable day as the

(54:58):
House in the Senate had to vote on this particular issue.
And so give me one. So here, here we go.
Here's the actual moment of Plasquet speaking and addressing her
critics on the floor of the US House watched this year.

Speaker 19 (55:19):
I first want to give you all a sense of
what was happening that day. Everyone knows. At that hearing
in February, the entire country was watching as Michael Cohen
decided he was going to finally give up information about
what was happening in the Trump in the Trump world,

(55:41):
the Trump enterprise. And at the beginning of that hearing,
the ranking member Jim Jordan had the disrespect to Elijah Cummings.
May he rest in peace and his name be a memory.
After not allowing mister Jordan to shut the committee hearing down,

(56:02):
and I turned to mister Jordan and told him to
have respect for the chair and to basically shut up.
And that moment went viral, and I began to get
innumerable text from friends, from foes, from constituents about what

(56:23):
was happening in that hearing. And I got a text
from Jeffrey Epstein, who at the time was my constituent,
who was not public knowledge at that time that he
was under federal investigation, and who was sharing information with me.

(56:46):
Now I heard recently from someone that I was taking
advice from him. Let me tell you something. I don't
need to get advice on how to question anybody from
any individual. I have been a lawyer for thirty years.
I have been a narcotics prosecutor in New York City.

(57:06):
I have been had the honor of being a political
appointee at the Justice Department after September eleventh, as a
Republican appointee in the Bush administration. I know how to
question individuals. I know how to seek information. I have
sought information from confidential informants, from murderers, from other individuals

(57:32):
because I want the truth, not because I need them
to tell me what to say. And if you look
at the transcript, you will see that I question Michael
Cohen for five minutes. The Washington Post only shows you
thirty seconds and takes from it one individual's name that

(57:53):
I got from Jeffrey Epstein and didn't know who the
individual was, and put that individual with a host of
other individuals that I felt the committee should subpoena. They've
never been subpoena. They've never been questioned.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
While they on Capitol Hill. Randy, what say you about
what took place today? Why Republicans fought real hard for
these files to not have to be released. You don't
fight that hard, un List, You don't want some stuff
revealed to the public.

Speaker 26 (58:30):
You know, we all know it's in the files now.
They made it very obvious that there is certainly some
information that they do not want us to know. I mean,
how long did they prolong that arizonas her getting sworn in?

Speaker 3 (58:43):
It was a three weeks. I mean, it was seemed
to illegal.

Speaker 26 (58:46):
How long they took so as they're scrambling and we
see Trump falling apart.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
I mean, well, I know we're.

Speaker 26 (58:55):
Going to talk about it later about him calling the
reporter a piggy, but he's losing his mind. Clearly, he
is stressed out and doesn't want what's in those files.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
To come out.

Speaker 26 (59:05):
What I was thinking when I was seeing those women
speak today is that I am shocked when you see
people like Megan Kelly and all of these people who
are continuing to support white supremacy and not protect those
who are the most innocent in this world. I mean,

(59:25):
if you wouldn't think that we would care about anybody,
you would want think that we would protect children. And
here we have this huge sex trafficking ring, and you
have these men who are white men, who are extremely powerful,
that have gotten away with this for decades now.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
And it's shocking to me all of the people who.

Speaker 26 (59:46):
Are still fighting to protect these men, these criminals.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
And that is what is sad to me, what we're
witnessing now.

Speaker 26 (59:57):
But it also shows the power of white sup premacy
and who will work to keep it alive and keep
it strong, regardless of who suffers. And so when you
have women like Megan Kelly, who was looking at these other,
these these these victims and not feeling sympathy but starting
to split hairs and say, who really looks like a child, Oh,

(01:00:18):
if she was fourteen or fifteen, not really five. That's
when you're really seeing how dependent people are on this
sixth system that exists.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
It was unbelievable, Mustapha. And if you heard the woman
say five administrations, thousand plus women, really.

Speaker 25 (01:00:42):
Well, first of all, wells to Congress froman Grigahova. We
appreciate you and the vote that you cast it along
with all the others. You know, it's really interesting. You know,
we've had predators who have been allowed to grown free
for decades upon decades upon decades, now.

Speaker 24 (01:00:58):
Never allowing you know, these young girls.

Speaker 25 (01:01:01):
To move out of sort of the hellish situation that
they've had to deal with after they were solved. And
you know, we've got this. We forget that folks need
to be able to heal. And for you to be
able to heal means that you have to be able
to have justice. And that's what they've been asking for.
They've been asking for folks to put a spotlight on this.
They've been asking to make sure that people are brought

(01:01:23):
to accountability, who took advantage of them, who raped them,
the pedophiles, all these different types of folks, and Randy
laid it out.

Speaker 24 (01:01:31):
It is about power and privilege, being able to escape, you.

Speaker 25 (01:01:35):
Know, from the law because you know, yes, Jeffrey Epstein
and his partner were arrested after a long long time,
but there are there may be thousands of men who
are out there who are still walking these streets. So
we should be very clear about what sex trafficking is,
how it impacts folks, and that it has to be addressed.
It doesn't matter if somebody is a billionaire or a millionaire,

(01:01:58):
or if there's someone who's driving the bus.

Speaker 24 (01:02:00):
If you're a part of those types of things, that
you have to be brought to justice.

Speaker 21 (01:02:06):
Joe, Yeah, I mean, and now it's the next battle round.
The next battle round is now to make sure that
everything that's supposed to come out comes out and it's.

Speaker 20 (01:02:16):
Not clouded under the guise of a of an investigation.

Speaker 22 (01:02:21):
Well, this part is under investigation, so this can't be released.

Speaker 20 (01:02:25):
I think that there are people that are going to
know if something is missing that's not released, and at
the at the risk of oversimplifying it, how do we
know if nothing negative towards Trump is released, we know
that they've cooked it. We know they cooked the books
because they were fighting entirely too hard to keep this
studying from being released, because they knew that something of

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the milk wasn't white and that he wasn't going to
look good if the truth actually came out. So now
we've just moved to the next frontier, and it's going
to be interesting to see.

Speaker 21 (01:02:57):
I mean, Donald Trump, you know, actually, on some level
I came fall to me he always has been able
for the last ten years to look at these folks
and say, there's nothing to see here, and so look
in the other direction.

Speaker 22 (01:03:08):
They turn around and do it. They go okay, you know,
and so now he's got.

Speaker 20 (01:03:12):
Caught a little unexpected that they didn't really go his
way here.

Speaker 22 (01:03:15):
But let's see if they stay there.

Speaker 20 (01:03:17):
Let's see if they really allow this to become this
political thing where we revisit certain people that call themselves
Democrats or Bill Clinton or whoever it is that might
be going back twenty twenty five years, etc. As opposed
to dealing with the matter in hand. None of those
guys in President Trump is President Trump is the one
that tried to keep this stuff from coming out, and

(01:03:39):
so you know, you know, I'm not down with John
Molester's people that they rape underage folks. So whoever they are, black, white, Democrat, Republican,
Harvard is down get them all. But you'd be crazy
to think that this doesn't on some level include Trump
in a way that they've been trying to shield and high.
So hopefully we stay on the work here, stay on

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the attack here, stay on the aggressive side as it
pertains to making sure everything that's supposed to come out
actually does.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
All right, folks, Let's go to Memphis. The Tennessee judge
temporarily blocked the deployment of the National Guard in Memphis,
ruler that Governor Bill Lee exceeded his authority. Davidson County
Change the Patricia Head Moskie issued the injunction, but paused
did for five days to allow for it an appeal.
Although the National Guard deployment has been halted, federal agents
from the FBI, at F and DEEA will continued their

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work in Memphis as part of a broader crime fighting effort.
Jordan does now is one of the planets in that
Memphis City Councilvan J.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
D smile.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Glad to have you on the show. What was interesting
to me the fact that you and others said we
should fight this, but there were other city leaders who capitulated.

Speaker 27 (01:05:00):
Why.

Speaker 35 (01:05:00):
Yeah, I think you know, some of the leaders have
a hard time pushing back against an administration who seems
to control the courts.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
But my position has always been, just.

Speaker 35 (01:05:12):
Because the fight is difficult doesn't mean you need to
about out. I'm in a position or the position that
we're going to push back against any type of administration
who try to subject us to military occupation. Just because
it's difficult doesn't mean we shouldn't get into the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
And absolutely, and listen, y'all are elected to lead. There
are local leaders, they're state leaders, they're national leaders. Uh,
And to for Trump to run a rough shot over
the duly elected representatives of Memphis and other states is shameful.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 35 (01:05:51):
I just think some people are always concerned about potentially
losing resources if you fight the federal government, if you
fight the state. But I always have to remind folk
they have consistently they meaning the state, have consistently given
Shelby County the least. And if you're concerned about losing resources,
it's not going to be much to lose. They have

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an obligation to give us the resources they give us,
but they're not going to give us more. And I've
been consistent about this in twenty and twenty three, twenty
twenty four. When we fall to state as relates to
gun reform, they say they're going to take resources from
our communities, but they have consistently done the least and
we're going to continue to fight them when it comes
to skirting the law or subjecting us to a military occupation.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
I think it's how more obligation to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Listen, Look, I get the fear of losing resources, but
I say the greater fear is when you lose credibility
and when you lose your power, when you lose when
you talk about the loss of civil rights, of the
loss of legal rights, that stuff matters because when you
let someone take in one instance, they will continue.

Speaker 35 (01:06:59):
To And I think another concerns should be why if
we allow them to continue to open this door to
skirt the law while they're targeting Hispanic people today, you
know the very next people they're gonna target people who
look like me. And I think we have to fight
against injustice right now. We are freedom fighters in the

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city of Memphis. I just with some of our elected
leaders will understand that if we don't fight now, we've
already lost the war that's soon to come.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Absolutely, questions aboy, panel will stop for you first.

Speaker 25 (01:07:34):
Yeah, well, it's good to see you. Thank you for
everything you're doing for the country. Could you be clear
with folks, is there a rebellion or an invasion happening
in Memphis?

Speaker 27 (01:07:44):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 35 (01:07:44):
As a matter of fact, from September of this year,
from January to September this year, crime was at a
twenty five year low. We've invested in group intervention, group
violence individual programs, and we saw successes. What you see
now is the Memphist Task Force and the National Guard
and the federal government trying to come into the city

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of Memphis and claim that they've done something great, and
all they're doing is pickabacking off of the efforts of
our local law enforcement. I dually elected officials should be
stepping up and say you're not going to take credit
for the work that we've thought hard to do and
we're not going to subject us to this type of

(01:08:26):
a very aggressive authoritatian type of leadership. We're not going
to bow down to them.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
We will not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Yo.

Speaker 21 (01:08:37):
Well, sir, tell us about the discussions that you've had
with local law enforcement. You know, it's just happening everywhere,
and the discussions I've have with local law enforcement here
in California are like whether it's ice or whether it's
you know, we don't have the problem with the governor
per se, but any time there's a militarization of a
local area, it seems to up grote and undermine the

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goodwill that good law enforcement folks are really.

Speaker 22 (01:09:07):
Trying to put in the ground.

Speaker 20 (01:09:11):
For those rainy days when they need to be trusted,
when they need to be believed, which is all the time.
Are you having those same kinds of conversations with local
law enforcement and if so, what are they saying.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Well?

Speaker 35 (01:09:21):
Absolutely, Today we had a press conference along with the
County Mary Lee Harris, and one of the things that
one of the community groups noted was they've been building
good rapport with local law enforcement officers, particularly with the
Hispanic community, but now the trust has eroded. And that's
the same concern that you hear some of the local
LA enforcement officers. We've built or started building good report,

(01:09:44):
particularly after what happened with Tyree Nichols. It's very hard
to build good rapport when you have a graduate that
occurrent and when you're starting progress and now you have
this occurrent, It's very difficult for them to say, hey,
trust us now, especially when you have you know, the
federal agencies coming in and uplooving families in our neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
It's difficult.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Randy, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
For fighting back. I appreciate your courage.

Speaker 26 (01:10:13):
How are the residents doing, Like, how are they responding
to the National guardsmen being there?

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
You know, Being in DC, we saw.

Speaker 26 (01:10:21):
People actually on the streets fighting back and not being
you know, confrontational with the National Guard, but very much
being clear that they did not want them there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Are you seeing that in Memphis?

Speaker 35 (01:10:32):
Yeah, in the city of Memphis, a lot of our
residents have humor.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
We we do something called checking.

Speaker 35 (01:10:38):
You will see residents going out, you know, you know,
making fun of the National Guard being here. But you
also see community members taking a very serious approach and
why are you here, what are you doing? What benefit
do you provide for our community? Do you hear have
business owners concerns say hey, we don't want the National
Guard here, particularly if you talk about small businesses in

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the areas in which the National Guard are walking. I
won't say patrolling because they don't have policing power, but
walking around, you know, with so and force.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
They're hurting businesses in our community.

Speaker 35 (01:11:13):
I'm almost as concerned as I was during COVID when
the businesses were shuddering.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
This is a very negative impact.

Speaker 35 (01:11:22):
On the economic port of the businesses we have in
our community. The people don't want the National Guard here.
And I don't care what the folks outside of Myphis saying.
But if you talk to raisins of Mephis, they're not
talking about we want the National Guard.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
They saying goodbye, good riddings, don't let the door hit
you when you leave.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
All right, then, well, CAA's mus smile is shuly appreciated.
Your regulations on this suit. We'll see exactly what happens
if there's an appeal in what's the next steps.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
We're speaking a pill real so, but we'll be fighting.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
All right, Thanks so much, folks going to break we
come back. I have said time and time again that
Donald Trump is the most despicable person to ever enter
the White House and that's saying a whole lot. But
I'll show you what this idiot said about a female reporter.

(01:12:16):
But then how shameful he was in responding to questions
regarding Saudi Arabia's crown Princess Roles the murder of an
American journalist. You're watching Roland Martin unfilched right here in
the bush of the network.

Speaker 32 (01:12:33):
He said, the quiet part out loud. Black votes are
a threat, so they erased them. After the Supreme Court
gutted the Voting Rights Act in twenty thirteen, Republican legislatures
moved fast new voter id laws, polling place shutdowns, purges
of black voters from the Roles. Trump's Justice Department didn't
stop it. They joined in. In twenty eighteen, is DOJ

(01:12:57):
backed Ohio's voter purge system that disproportionately erased Black voters.
Their goal erase black votes and political power.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Yeah, that happened.

Speaker 32 (01:13:08):
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Speaker 16 (01:13:34):
If in this country, right now you have people get
up into morning and the only thing they can think
about is how many people they can hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
And they got the power.

Speaker 10 (01:13:43):
That's the time for morning, for better or worse.

Speaker 17 (01:13:46):
What makes America special, it's that legal system that's supposed
to protect minorities from the tyranny of the majority.

Speaker 18 (01:13:54):
We are at a point of a moral emergency. Raise
a voice of outrage. We must raise a voice of compassion,
and we must.

Speaker 10 (01:14:06):
Raise a voice of unity.

Speaker 16 (01:14:09):
We are not in a crisis of party versus party.
We are in a crisis of civilization, a humans rights crisis,
and a crisis of democracy itself.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
And guess what.

Speaker 16 (01:14:21):
You've been chosen to make sure that those that would destroy,
those that would hate, don't have the final say, and
they don't ultimately win.

Speaker 32 (01:14:33):
Oh, Bishop TV Jakes and you're watching Roland Martin unfiltered.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Donald Trump called a Bloomberg News reporter Catherine Lucy Piggy
doing a tense exchange board Air Force one on Friday.
Look at this in grate a.

Speaker 24 (01:14:58):
Couple of members, help me be breaking. You're gonna find
out what did he know?

Speaker 36 (01:15:03):
You respected Milltick with respect to the head of Harbor
with respect alone on those people.

Speaker 9 (01:15:09):
And they never plenty.

Speaker 37 (01:15:10):
JP Morgan ships.

Speaker 38 (01:15:14):
In the Filan's trying to look back, begin, I remember whaling, sir,
You've had a lot of beatings.

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
I'm pendously aloud.

Speaker 24 (01:15:21):
I know you can't tell that's what your next step
for me?

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
I can be thinking.

Speaker 24 (01:15:25):
So you dictated a couple of memos, so I'm selling
to be breaking.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
You're gonna find out what did he know?

Speaker 36 (01:15:31):
Got respect the biltick, with respect to the head of harbor,
with respect the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
Bone on those people, and they never plenty JP Morgan ships.

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
In the filings.

Speaker 38 (01:15:43):
Trying to look back, begin, I've render whaling, sir, You've
had a lot of meetings. I'm eniously aloud.

Speaker 24 (01:15:49):
I know you can't tell us.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Piggy, do you know how despicable this man is? In fact,
that was a video. This is what it looked like,
a photo of the incident. This man is shameful. He's shameful.

(01:16:15):
And other members of the press they just kept going well.
Former Fox News anchor Gretchen Carlson called her mark disgusting
and degrading. Donald Trump has a history of attacking female
reporters and trying to shut women journalists up with demeaning language,
he said, able to make Morris American Urban radio network,

(01:16:35):
he said, to so many others, and lem gonna tell
you something right now. The right says nothing. The right
will not say a word. That's the right. He called
her piggy. This is Captain Lucy right here. But it
wasn't just Lucy. Today in the oval office for the

(01:16:59):
Saudi Crown Prince, who was given an elaborate welcome truck,
was questioned by ABC News reporter Mary Bruce, this was
an exchange.

Speaker 24 (01:17:12):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
One week for Congress to release the Epstein.

Speaker 22 (01:17:17):
Files, why not just do it that?

Speaker 10 (01:17:19):
Well, it's not the question that I mind.

Speaker 39 (01:17:22):
It's your attitude.

Speaker 24 (01:17:23):
I think you are a terrible reporter.

Speaker 39 (01:17:26):
It's the way you ask these questions. You start off
with a man who's highly respected asking him a horrible, uh,
insubordinate and just a terrible question. And you could even
ask that same exact question nicely.

Speaker 22 (01:17:41):
You're all psyched.

Speaker 39 (01:17:43):
Somebody sucks you over at ABC, You're gonna psych it.

Speaker 27 (01:17:48):
You're a terrible person.

Speaker 39 (01:17:50):
And a terrible reporter. As far as the Epstein file says,
I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein, and I
threw him out of my club many years ago because
I thought it was a sick pervert. But I guess
I would turn out to be right. But you know
who does have built Letton? Larry Somers, who ran Harvard,
was with him every single night, every single weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
They lived together.

Speaker 39 (01:18:12):
They went to his island many times. I never did
Andrew Weissman here. All these guys were friends of his.
You don't even talk about those people. You just keep
going on the Epstein files. And what the Epstein is
is a Democrat hoax to try and get me not
to be able to talk about the twenty one trillion

(01:18:33):
dollars that I talked about today.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
It's a hoax.

Speaker 10 (01:18:36):
Now.

Speaker 39 (01:18:36):
I just got a little report and I.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Put it in my pocket.

Speaker 39 (01:18:39):
Of all the money that he's given to Democrats, he
gave me none, zero, no money to me, but he
gave money to Democrats.

Speaker 10 (01:18:49):
And people are wise to your hoax.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
And ABC's your.

Speaker 39 (01:18:53):
Company, your crappy company is one of the perpetrators.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
And I'll tell you something.

Speaker 27 (01:18:57):
I'll tell you something.

Speaker 22 (01:18:58):
I think the license.

Speaker 39 (01:19:01):
Should be taken away from ABC because your news is
so fake and is so wrong. And we have a
great commissioner, the chairman who should look at that, because
I think when you come in and when you're ninety
seven percent negative to Trump and then Trump wins the
election in a landslide, that means obviously your news is

(01:19:21):
not credible and you're not credible as a reporter.

Speaker 24 (01:19:24):
So I've answered your question.

Speaker 39 (01:19:26):
You should go and look at the Democrats who received
money from Epstein, who.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Spent their time.

Speaker 39 (01:19:32):
Larry Summers was with them all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Abusive, gross, despicable. Mary Bruce, This is Mary Bruce. She
was doing her job seeing what he can't stand. He
cannot stand when women challenge him. It drives him crazy.
And so he reversed to be this abusive ogre just
being this absolute despicable in the visual and see folks,

(01:20:04):
But we also saw it took place today in the
Old Office because the question that she asked before that
dealt with the role of the Saudi Crown Prince in
the brutal murder of Kashoge. Now his what's crazy? The

(01:20:25):
American intelligence came to the conclusion that he ordered he
ordered the brutal, the brutal killing of Kashoki and guess
what happened? Did he answer?

Speaker 10 (01:20:47):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
New covered form. Trump listened to this.

Speaker 27 (01:20:58):
Interest.

Speaker 15 (01:21:01):
The US Intelligence concluded that you orchestra and as a
ruler of a journalists now families are furious.

Speaker 10 (01:21:08):
Who you are, who are who you were, and who.

Speaker 39 (01:21:12):
You are with who fakeness NBC fad is one of
the worst, one of the worst of the business.

Speaker 10 (01:21:19):
But I'll ask you a question, thank you.

Speaker 27 (01:21:21):
I have nothing to do with the family business.

Speaker 39 (01:21:23):
I have left and when I've devoted one hundred percent
of my energy.

Speaker 10 (01:21:26):
What my family does is fine. They do business all over.

Speaker 39 (01:21:30):
They've done very little with Saudi Arabia, actually, because I'm
sure they could do a lot, and anything they've done
has been very good.

Speaker 10 (01:21:36):
That's what we've done.

Speaker 27 (01:21:37):
We've built a tremendous business.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
For a long time.

Speaker 24 (01:21:39):
I've been very successful. I decided to leave that.

Speaker 39 (01:21:42):
Success pee behind and make America very successful.

Speaker 24 (01:21:45):
And I've made America more successful by far than.

Speaker 10 (01:21:48):
It ever was, and that it ever could have been.

Speaker 39 (01:21:51):
No matter who was president, there would be nobody bringing
in twenty one trillion dollars. That I can tell you
right now, as far as this gentleman is.

Speaker 9 (01:21:58):
Concerned, he's done a phenomenal job.

Speaker 39 (01:22:00):
You're mentioning somebody that was extremely controversial. A lot of
people didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about, whether you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Like him or didn't like him.

Speaker 24 (01:22:09):
Things happened, but he knew nothing about it.

Speaker 39 (01:22:12):
And when you believe it that you don't have to
embarrass her, guess by asking a question like.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
True embarrass our guests masters a question like that, I'm mistopics.
He a grown man, can answer for himself.

Speaker 24 (01:22:28):
He can most definitely answer for him for his own self.

Speaker 25 (01:22:31):
He helps to run a major country, so he can
definitely speak for himself. It's it's you know, I've watched
a lot of presidents, I advise a couple of them.
I don't think that there were any in the past
who would ever even come near to this type of
a situation of, you know, having an an American citizen
who's been killed and then you're defending and uplifting someone

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who may have had something to do with it.

Speaker 24 (01:22:58):
So it's we're living in this really like alternative universe.

Speaker 25 (01:23:02):
Almost whenever you walk into when the cameras go into
the White House and the things that you see them
say and do you know, it makes you really understand
that what.

Speaker 24 (01:23:13):
Was that Michael Jackson said, They don't care about us.

Speaker 25 (01:23:15):
They truly don't care about any of the American citizens
that are out there.

Speaker 24 (01:23:19):
They don't care about we the people.

Speaker 25 (01:23:21):
They don't care about any of those things that we
often think that most folks.

Speaker 24 (01:23:25):
Who sit in that important seat would actually do.

Speaker 25 (01:23:29):
But it also sends a message to dictators across the
planet that you can literally do anything, and you still
can have a place with this current administration if you
are willing to invest enough.

Speaker 24 (01:23:44):
You heard him kept talking about.

Speaker 25 (01:23:46):
You know, trying to get him to say that he
was going to invest the trillion dollars.

Speaker 24 (01:23:49):
I think he was up to like six hundred billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
First of all, yeah, yeah, Saudi Arabia is going to
invest a trillion dollars. Saudi Arabia's GDP is one point
one trillion. They're not going to invest the trillion out
He is such a damn I keep telling me he
lies about lies.

Speaker 25 (01:24:08):
Well, this is true, we all know that. But the
American people sometimes are not paying attention. You know, people
are busy working and doing other things. And that's why
you got to bring this stuff forward because these are
very this is a very dangerous situation.

Speaker 24 (01:24:21):
Again, it's the message that you're sitting to others across
the country.

Speaker 25 (01:24:25):
You see it sometimes in the way that he will
uplift Putin and then they might get into a small.

Speaker 24 (01:24:29):
Disagreement and then you know he'll back away for a second.
But he always comes.

Speaker 25 (01:24:34):
Back to these dictators who do this most not just
egregious things, they do these deadly things across the planet.

Speaker 24 (01:24:41):
So folks just need to pay attention.

Speaker 25 (01:24:43):
But you know, elections have consequences, and when you put
an individual like this into.

Speaker 24 (01:24:48):
The White House, you know, unfortunately, these are the types
of things you're going to get.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
And Randy we know, we know his ads lying about
business interest in Saudi a Rdia, know he lied. He
is the most corrupt. He is pimping the Oval Office,
but everything, oh.

Speaker 26 (01:25:08):
Absolutely, he's conducted business and making himself a very very
rich man and his family rich.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
And journalists have always.

Speaker 26 (01:25:16):
Served such an important part in making America run.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
They are the ones who bring out the truth. They
hold our leaders accountable.

Speaker 26 (01:25:26):
And so because we have a crook in charge, a
felon in charge, he does everything in his power to
silence the journalists, the ones who are courageous enough to
ask him the hard questions. The ones that he can't answer,
the ones that he doesn't want to answer, he silences them,
and he silences them by either insulting them directly or

(01:25:49):
bullying them and just saying that he's going to ensure that,
you know that they lose their licenses and things.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
And I don't see how people can't see this.

Speaker 26 (01:25:58):
The only new source that he seems to really believe
in are these Republican pundits, are Fox News, phone news
that will not tell the truth, that will not challenge
him and will allow him to run him up. And
so we have no one to hold this idiot, this toddler,
this Felon accountable, and so I am constantly shocked. I

(01:26:20):
think one thing that has really disappointed me is how
weak collectively people are. You know, I see why they
miss black people from being in the streets because I
am shocked that people will sit there in silence as
he braces and puts down other people like he is
like a four year road on a playground, and everyone

(01:26:43):
just sits there and allows it to happen. I've never
seen where you beat a bully by just staying quiet.
And bravo to these two female journalists who are still
going out there and trying to hold this idiot accountable.

Speaker 40 (01:26:58):
Joe, Yeah, I mean, you know, and of course this
strikes the core of the daughter that's a journalist that
wants to do politics. So I always tell her, hey,
you know, just be tough and and keep coming at.

Speaker 22 (01:27:11):
It because they might always like you. Hopefully he ends
up being a bit of an anomaly.

Speaker 20 (01:27:16):
But it's crazy when you know he's got a thing
with women that seek to hold him accountical.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
I don't think there's any question about that.

Speaker 21 (01:27:24):
They weren't asking anything unreasonable or saying anything unreasonable.

Speaker 20 (01:27:27):
And it's interesting how the Republicans just just just sit
in silence. If a Democrat had done this, What if
Barack Obama had done this, they be trying to impeach him.

Speaker 22 (01:27:35):
Okay, you know they wouldn't. They wouldn't have it. Okay.

Speaker 27 (01:27:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
They were subjected to talking to his talking about his suits,
his tan suit, because they couldn't talk about anything else.

Speaker 20 (01:27:46):
You got plenty to talk about here if you want to,
but a whole lot of people don't want to. They
just kind of keell over and let him do whatever
it is that he wants to do, which is unfortunate,
but Hopefully UH, those ads and and and those media
outlets continue to support strong qualified UH journalists as they

(01:28:11):
do their jobs, and and so that's going to be
really important and hopefully that continues to be the case.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
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Speaker 10 (01:29:02):
Next on the Black Table with me Greg Carr.

Speaker 14 (01:29:05):
Our Legal roundtable is back in session as we look
at yet another potential landmark case being considered by the
United States Supreme Court. This one is called Triozo three
creative versus A Linus, and may be the most important
and our reaching first amendment, that is freedom of speech
case of our type.

Speaker 10 (01:29:25):
It could depending on how.

Speaker 14 (01:29:27):
The court rules opened the door for a return of
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It's true.

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If you say we.

Speaker 15 (01:29:34):
Can discriminate against one, you're saying we can discriminate against all.

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Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Hey, what's up?

Speaker 16 (01:29:48):
Everybody is God be the funniest dude on the planet
and you're watching.

Speaker 9 (01:29:52):
Roland Martin unfelting.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Last night the House of Proterorems resolution condemning Congressman Chewie
Garcia for his decision to how he chose not to
seek re election. But my iPad. This was the vote.
One hundred and eighty three Democrats voted against it, twenty
three Democrats joined it, two or thirteen Republicans did as
well for two and thirty six. Now Democrats were fighting

(01:30:18):
this because they were supporting Garcia. But the problem is
how Garcia left. In fact, he tried to suggest it.
Oh no, he decided to retire. Here's the problem. His
chief of staff Patti Garcia. She dropped her petition three
days before he dropped out. Let me say again, no, no, no, no,

(01:30:40):
no go to it yet. Let me set it up.
So the woman who was the chief of staff for Garcia,
three days before he announces he's not gonna run, she
files her petition to run, but he said he decided

(01:31:03):
not to run. It was late. And here's the other problem.
This is her petition. Who was the first person to sign,
Chewey Garcia. Come on, bro, this was a setup. He

(01:31:27):
dropped out late to ease the path for her to
run for his seat. You can't say you decided late
when three days before you dropped out, she mysteriously filed
her petition. And you, the first person who see you

(01:31:51):
knew you couldn't announce three days before you three days
before the deadline, because you knew others would run. Chewie,
that's that book bullshit. That's that bullshit. And they should
have voted against your ass, and you should have been
called out for it because your ass was wrong, speaking

(01:32:11):
wrong Latino voters. We try to tell y'all asses, that
man to give a damn about y'all, But the proximity
to whiteness. Oh my god, y'all were just loving y'all.
Oh y'all, Oh my god. I love how he hugs
the flag.

Speaker 41 (01:32:29):
Oh my god, I love how he's an American. I
love how he stands with us. We are all one.
We are Latinos for Trump. We are Cubans for Trump.
We love us some Senior Trump. We made songs and

(01:32:49):
dances for Trump, and Trump got now senting y'all asses
out here. Trump is sitting here lighting your asses up,
snatching your mama's and your daddies.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
And your aunts and uncles and your cousins, just jacking
y'all up left and right.

Speaker 12 (01:33:11):
Mm hm.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
We try to tell you, but now y'all was so
adjacent to white that y'all wanted to line up with
the maga foods. Now what y'all gonna do? So now,
when you look at polling, polling data is showing how
Latinos in huge numbers are running away from Donald Trump

(01:33:41):
in Virginia, big shift to Democratic candidates. The question is
how would this play out in twenty twenty six? Will
Latino voters finally wake the hell up and realize that
Trump ain't they daddy and He's not gonna sit here

(01:34:01):
and save them, and he don't give a damn about them.
Latinos are mad about the economy, they mad about immigration,
all of this stuff. I try to tell you. Chris Told,
director of the Black Voter Project, co founder of Black
Insights Research, joined us right now, Chris, I was glad
to have the show. So Chris ain't amazing what happens

(01:34:25):
when folks learn the hard lesson what's that phrase? Hard
head makes off?

Speaker 27 (01:34:32):
As it seems like that's the case here.

Speaker 37 (01:34:36):
The CNN po is really interesting and that Latinos have
pretty much shifted directions completely, not just when it comes
to approval, but when it comes to their views on
Trump handling the economy, and even their views on how
Trump's handling immigration, and so kind of full circle here.

Speaker 27 (01:34:53):
On all of the things that seems to matter the
most when it came election time in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
See, I'm I'm confused. Chris could see all them people,
all them people talk about how Trump was so good
for the economy. They talked about how he was, Oh
my god, he's gonna be bringing in the Golden age. Man,
we are just gonna be swimming in cash and gold bars.

(01:35:23):
And oh man, it's just gonna be the time of
our lives. That's a lie.

Speaker 37 (01:35:35):
I think there's there's a realization as well, not just
with Latinos, but with a lot of conservatives and even
black conservatives that were, you know, spewing all of this
BS for Trump in twenty twenty four, that it's just
that BS, and that there was a lot of misinformation
out there being pushed really hard on social media and
sort of other non traditional media platforms that people were

(01:35:58):
just buying into and getting dated with to a point where,
you know, all of the.

Speaker 27 (01:36:03):
Truth didn't matter anymore. And now we're seeing.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
What the truth is.

Speaker 27 (01:36:07):
We're seeing, you know, for to the trees, as they say,
and it's it's very very clear, as you said before,
that Trump and the Trump administration is only for.

Speaker 37 (01:36:16):
One thing, and that's Trump and anyone else's is on
the outside looking in, even those that voting for him
and helped him get into office.

Speaker 27 (01:36:24):
I think it's telling two. In the CNN poll.

Speaker 37 (01:36:26):
That approval ratings for Latinos did earlier this year, they
were real close to where white approval was. Those attitudes
have differed so much that they're almost where black attitudes
are now, and black approval has always been relatively low
for time.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
Oh ho ho wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
wait did you just say that Latinos are soault pissed off?
Did they damn near right.

Speaker 27 (01:36:51):
There with us close to it?

Speaker 37 (01:36:53):
Yeah, damn, it's almost connecting now where black and Latino
approval is both at.

Speaker 27 (01:36:58):
About twenty percent, a little over twenty percent. So it's
it's very telling it nothing else.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
See, that's what happens when your windows start getting busted out.
That's what happens when they start raiding churches in schools.
That's what happens when your ass believe, Oh no, they
were going to be attacking the violent not yeah, no,
they don't give it. Damn, they don't care. And so
now the races are running the show. Now the thugs

(01:37:28):
are running the show. And now these these Latinos see
see the problem the problem with the polling, Chris, The
problem with the polling is Latinos are group together.

Speaker 10 (01:37:43):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
You really can't separate, separate the white Latinos from the
brown Latinos.

Speaker 37 (01:37:53):
See, or the conservative Latinos, the new immigrants from the
second third generation immigrants. And even in this poll, the
numbers are so few that it's very hard to say
anything here beyond just these really large shifts that are
taking place, because you know.

Speaker 27 (01:38:09):
It's a sample of about twelve hundred people.

Speaker 37 (01:38:10):
But when CNN reports the results, they still have to
report people of color together all is one, just because
there's not enough numbers to actually dig into these.

Speaker 27 (01:38:19):
Things, and that's going to kill a lot.

Speaker 37 (01:38:22):
Of these campaigns, a lot of these candidates in tight
races in places, you know, in Virginia, as we were
talking about Florida, where people are trying to win really
close Senate and House seats, if they're not able to
dig into these numbers and really see how people feel
and the nuances behind what's going on in the poli today.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
You look at this stuff all the time. Are we
seeing black folks harden against this food?

Speaker 27 (01:38:50):
I think so.

Speaker 37 (01:38:52):
I haven't done too much national poli recently, but I
did just finish conducting some personal interviews with sort of
black community leaders in a purple state, and the sentiment
in the black community from those interviews is that there
there is this sense of exhaustion and people are tired
of having to continue to fight fight the system. But

(01:39:13):
that doesn't mean that people are done fighting, and I
think there's a renewed sense of hope now with some
of the elections that just took place this year, and
there's a renewed push where even if you know, black
community leaders don't see a candidate or.

Speaker 27 (01:39:30):
A campaign that they want to get behind, they're turning.

Speaker 37 (01:39:32):
Inwards to the community and they're looking for organizations and
grassroots groups to put their energy and time into and
still being political, still being active again. It's going to
come down to how we get people who are not
usually active, who don't usually pay attention to politics, to
the polls in the upcoming midterms, because that's going to
you know, turn the tide in again, these.

Speaker 27 (01:39:53):
These races that are just one or two point margins.
So but there's there's absolutely a sense.

Speaker 37 (01:39:59):
That the black unity is becoming more hardened towards Trump,
similar to we saw as we approach the twenty twenty election,
but it's happening much sooner in the presidency this time.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
You've been talking to any of these dumb ass black
men who's vote with Trump, do they have any second thoughts?

Speaker 37 (01:40:16):
You know, I don't pay attention to that crowd too
much these days, but I have been seeing some second.

Speaker 27 (01:40:23):
Thoughts, but more through contradiction than anything else. You know,
a lot of voters who are very loud and outspoken,
are very stubborn.

Speaker 37 (01:40:31):
And so they're not going to outright say that they
were wrong, but they are going to say, oh, well,
now we're not getting this or what happened to reparations
or these things that we.

Speaker 27 (01:40:40):
Thought were going to happen. Oh, we're going to get
another stimulus check. So the same old kind of talking.

Speaker 37 (01:40:45):
Lines, but it's it's very clear that there is some
sense of buyer's remorse for a lot of these people
from underrepresented communities that were throwing their support behind this administration.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
We've got a you've got a race happening in Tennessee
that's coming up. In fact, Vice President Kama Harris made
a surprise surprise move, shocking a lot of people. She's
campaigning in that particular She's campaigning today for African Vane

(01:41:17):
in that particular race. And you try to explain to
people that the role that the black voter can play
in that race. It's almost seventy percent African American, but
to my iPad, the breakdown of that district is non Hispanic,
white seventy one point nine percent, Hispanic is Latino six
point two, Black African America sixteen point seven, Asian two

(01:41:37):
point eight, Native American, other two point six. The reality
is she is going to need a massive black turnout,
but also many believe that she is going to be
able to pull a significant amount of white voters. But
the points that you're making, if you want to reach
those voters, you're going to have to have the folk
who can speak to those.

Speaker 37 (01:41:56):
Voters absolutely, and there's no one right now now more
president to speak to that black voters than Harris. She
still has holds a lot of admiration the black community.
And in a race like that, even if you can
split white voters fifty to fifty, right, you need those black.

Speaker 27 (01:42:12):
Voters to get over the hump and in that district
to tesse.

Speaker 37 (01:42:14):
It's going to be a really hard task to win
that type of white support. I think right now it's
estimated at a ten point advantage for Republicans, So there's
a lot of ground to make up. But say you
split white voters fifty five to forty five and you
win ninety plus percent of black support, and you give
black voters to the polls.

Speaker 27 (01:42:31):
It's absolutely realistic to think you could win that race.

Speaker 37 (01:42:33):
But you have to try and get out as many
Black voters as you can because you know now that
of ten of them are.

Speaker 27 (01:42:38):
Going to vote for you as a Democratic candidate.

Speaker 37 (01:42:41):
And so yet I think it's really brilliant to get
Harris out there, especially as this being one of her
sort of first campaign stops or back.

Speaker 27 (01:42:48):
Campaigning for people other than her book tour, and so
it's going to get a lot of.

Speaker 37 (01:42:53):
People with attention, especially in the black areas in that district.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
All right, real quick question from the panel show you first,
uh kind of connected.

Speaker 22 (01:43:05):
What's the best way for us to.

Speaker 20 (01:43:08):
Continue to inform citizens, voters, particularly Black voters, to really you.

Speaker 21 (01:43:13):
Know, get back in the race, staying the race's retained
to voting and participation.

Speaker 20 (01:43:19):
Or is the suffering that some are going through, black
women losing jobs, etc. Is that helping to take care
of and make them more perceptive and aware about the voting.

Speaker 37 (01:43:30):
I think the suffering, if you will, is going to
mobilize some voters, but there's also going to be a
significant group of black voters that needs compassion, and you're
going to need to understand why they might feel alienated
and removed, tired, exhausted with politics right now and come
up with political arguments that, on the one hand, absolutely

(01:43:53):
do impression upon them the dangers that are imminent when
the Trump administrate with the Trump administration and sort of
maga Republicans in power well at the same time discussing
ways that their lives could get better through politics in
the future, right and sort of have a short term
game and a long term game when it comes to
talking with black voters, but first and foremost be empathetic

(01:44:15):
and understanding as to why black voters are the black community.

Speaker 27 (01:44:18):
In general might be feeling really sort of disillusioned at
this moment in time.

Speaker 42 (01:44:24):
Weavel you know, there's been a stronger focus in certain
parts of the country, you know, with ice and a
number of other things that you know, Latino voters are experiencing.

Speaker 25 (01:44:35):
I'm curious in those areas, are we seeing more of
the individuals there moving away from the Republicans or is
it just across the country.

Speaker 27 (01:44:45):
That's a good question.

Speaker 37 (01:44:47):
I haven't seen any specific data suggesting that the proximity
to sort of ice rates or ice activity is moving
Latinos anymore than these trends we've see nationally, I wouldn't
be surprised, though, sort of similarly, or related work on
black voters suggest that the movement of sending the National

(01:45:07):
Guard can be mobilizing and likely has some of these cities.
So even though there's no analysis or data out there,
I would you know theorize or posit that this would
have had some sort of impact on Latinos and their
views of the Trump administration, especially when.

Speaker 27 (01:45:23):
It's directly affecting their lives, right. That's what makes the
big difference here.

Speaker 26 (01:45:27):
Brandy, similar question, are we seeing a breakdown by gender
and age with the Latino voters?

Speaker 37 (01:45:38):
Again, I haven't seen anything that is that nuanced when
it comes to the polling, and this again just speaks
to the limitations of the general polling out there is
as Roland said, right, we don't want to just see
gender and age, but we want to see national origin,
we want to see generation. There's so many different things
within each community, the Latino community, the Black community, Asian

(01:45:59):
American community, that can.

Speaker 27 (01:46:01):
Tell us so much about what's going on with these voters,
but we just don't get it most of the.

Speaker 37 (01:46:05):
Time because these mainstream news outlets belweve Poli really just
doesn't care to do the work right.

Speaker 27 (01:46:11):
They want to see the national trend, they want to
get the headline, and then they move on to the
next story.

Speaker 37 (01:46:15):
And so I'm hopeful that campaigns are taking that extra
step to collect the necessary data in their districts and
states that are needed. But more often than not, right,
those are stories that just are not told most of
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:46:28):
All right, Chris Tolder, I appreciate the man.

Speaker 27 (01:46:31):
Thanks a lot, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
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All that kind of stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:47:51):
Now everything is anti woke.

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Right when we were talking about including diversity, equity, inclusion,
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Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
It's your boy Earthquake, you know, giving Roland Martin something
to do because you know you don't know what to do.

Speaker 43 (01:48:12):
You're from Texas. Ain't his fault?

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
All right, folks. We are approaching holiday sees, and I
mean not fully yet, but yeah, my birthday was Friday,
so you know, y'all want to hook a brother up.

Speaker 10 (01:48:42):
I'm just saying, just saying.

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you here. First of all, ain't none of this, brothers?

Speaker 4 (01:49:08):
I mean, y'all play cards?

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
Do you?

Speaker 4 (01:49:11):
Or do you not play cards?

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:49:13):
I understand that. But what I'm saying is, but in
the whole intro, all I hear is celebrating the pie
women of color every day. You know, reading fast how
women express themselves. What I'm saying is is your stuff
for brothers too? Well?

Speaker 44 (01:49:27):
I see thousand of men on this channel. I want
to empower one of my brothers, be rooted for them.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
Okay, all right, so let's go through this here. So
we got a planner here. Yeah, all sisters on the planet,
give me you can throw, You could throw, you would
throw a brother in there?

Speaker 24 (01:49:47):
Is the artwork beautiful? Or is the artwork not beautiful?

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
It is?

Speaker 16 (01:49:50):
It is?

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
So we got. We got.

Speaker 44 (01:49:51):
You have a moment in your life that would love
to receive as a gift.

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
I brother like gifts too. All right. So, so we
got this is a planner, this is a daily notebook. Okay,
So give a difference between a planning a daily notebook.

Speaker 9 (01:50:06):
Okay.

Speaker 44 (01:50:07):
So a planner is something that's going to help you
get your day more organized. So there's going to be
room for you to write down your hourly thoughts. There's
going to be room for you to write down your
mail plans. You know, we're always trying to make sure
that we have getting her fitness together. There's going to
be room for your notes versus a notebook. It's going
to be more open ended. So this is for the
girl who's looking to journal's who's she's looking to write

(01:50:27):
her thoughts out. She's looking to keep a log of
what she needs to do.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
All right. So then what we got here? We got
coffee mug and wineglass.

Speaker 44 (01:50:37):
Yeah, so that one says before work and because work,
Because I don't know about you, sometimes before work I
need a little bit of caffeine and after work, I
need a little bit of you know, wine does the
body good.

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
No, I don't do caffeine. I'll do I don't do wine.
I'm ready to roll at any time.

Speaker 4 (01:50:53):
You don't need caffeine?

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
Dat, Yes, you think I would need caffeine.

Speaker 44 (01:51:01):
Well, I'm sure there is someone out there that gets
it and they don't get it.

Speaker 9 (01:51:06):
There is a work bestie that.

Speaker 24 (01:51:08):
Would love that gift.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
Randy taking ahead like, hell no, Hen'll need no extra,
I'll need nothing extra at tall all right then? Also, uh,
so you got a crossword puzzle too, I'm sorry, cross
jigsaw puzzle. So uh a warm embrace? Yes, that drop

(01:51:30):
hand drum puzzle.

Speaker 4 (01:51:31):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 44 (01:51:32):
It's gonna be a cozy fall scene five hundred piece puzzle,
soft touch finishing, something for you and your family to
do after after work, on the cozy weekend where you
get to put the pieces together there and calm your
mind now.

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
And finally something with a brother own it. We got
some playing cards, so we got right here some playing
cards as well.

Speaker 44 (01:51:55):
Yeah, so it's a set of tude cards for the
upcoming friends giving Thanksgiving season when you and your people
are gonna get together play some cards. I know you
play spades, You say, oh yes, Space Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
So how much I'm a hashtag team with that ass?

Speaker 44 (01:52:12):
So have you ever played spades with cards that have
black and brown jokers?

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Jack?

Speaker 44 (01:52:17):
Space cards? Like you haven't seen these before. So these
are gonna be perfect to bring to the gathering for
when you get your people together and you have to
teach them a little to something on the spades table.

Speaker 45 (01:52:27):
Well, I got some.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
I got some black and gold Alpha cards over there.

Speaker 9 (01:52:30):
Okay, brother, I'm an acad.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
Let me uh, let me see here. First of all,
let me let me make sure that these.

Speaker 45 (01:52:39):
Cards are appropriate, appropriate for real space players, because you know,
not everybody, not everybody can play spades.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
We'll stop and you play spades.

Speaker 24 (01:52:55):
Yeah, I've been playing space since I was about.

Speaker 45 (01:52:58):
All right, smart man, smart ran Joe had to go Rander,
You play spades?

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
Do I play spades?

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
That don't that don't hey, that don't mean a damn thing.
I'd have met I don't know. That don't mean a
damn thing. I'd have met some more boogie negroes who
don't play spades, And so I just need to.

Speaker 4 (01:53:19):
See you they all know, no.

Speaker 3 (01:53:21):
No, you have to survive.

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
I know some HBCU folks who don't play spades. Let's
see here, all right, jas, but let's see here. Okay,
I finally got this damn.

Speaker 44 (01:53:30):
Thing over then see if they passed your test.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
Let me see it. Let me see right here. Okay,
first of all, let's see here. Yeah, yes, they got
to had a proper uh super Then when you set
somebody this this is the real test right here, This
is the ultimate test for if you play spades, thick
the back of the card. All right, it holds, all right,

(01:53:53):
it holds there we go, all right, all right, your
so uh, your cards are black.

Speaker 4 (01:53:59):
Approved, slack stamps, tape of approval.

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
Yes, stamp of approval. That's right. Slap slap on the
forehead approved. All right, Randy, what Randy, you ain't never
did that. No, Ray, you ain't never did that. When
you said somebody, you look the back.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
Of you said somebody look at no cards.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
You look the back of Slap for your forehead and
you go your ass set your ass set all right,
all right, all right, Randy, you got to go ahead.
You got your jazz.

Speaker 27 (01:54:31):
Well, listen, you.

Speaker 4 (01:54:32):
Know I've already purchased from being rooted before.

Speaker 3 (01:54:35):
I love particularly the notebooks. I always have a notebook,
the notebook right here. So congratulations to you.

Speaker 4 (01:54:41):
And let me just say I was gonna, you know,
actually put this back on your rolling.

Speaker 26 (01:54:45):
I think men can carry notebooks that have beautiful black
women on the cover of some of them.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
That's fine. I still want to see a brother anyway. Okay, fine,
whatever whatever, we stop for gratulators, stop.

Speaker 16 (01:55:00):
But go.

Speaker 25 (01:55:01):
Yeah, congratulations. I'm curious about the art work. How do
you choose the artwork? Do you have a particular artist
you work with or what's the process?

Speaker 44 (01:55:11):
Yeah, I'm super lucky to have a team of amazing
designers that work for me, that we all concept the
art together and then they illustrate everything for the brand.
And so an amazing group of black and brown designers
that work for the brand.

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
Cool cool. Now, how many different products do you have?

Speaker 44 (01:55:29):
We have over fifty products that we change out seasonally,
and right now on your marketplace you have some of
our best sellers.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
Okay, all right here to give me a wide shot.
See this ain't bad because see they don't slide across
the table. So sometimes you know, sometimes cards they too slippery,
so you can have them flying across the table. See.
See that's right. So we check. We got to be
able to check. Randy, you want none of this, Randy,
you't want none of this.

Speaker 4 (01:56:00):
I was gonna say, I can show you better than
I tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:56:02):
Right right, Randon, let me play something to you. Don't
let the text A and M fol you see I
love it, see, I love I love all. I love all.
The HBCU negros who talking about you went to text
A and M. They forgot. I went to Jackyas High School.
We played spades twice a day for four years, in
the morning and at lunch. Y'all. Don't want none of this, y'all,

(01:56:27):
don't want none of this. All right? We were taking
your head for Jason. That's right. That week we can because.

Speaker 22 (01:56:31):
That's a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:56:32):
I mean, that's a lot of time. But I know
that if I have to have a.

Speaker 44 (01:56:35):
Space partner to call upon, I'm gonna call up on you.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
Oh hell, yes, hell yes, we know how to do this,
all right. So your best selling product are on the website.
Oh I did ask it earlier. When did you start
the company?

Speaker 44 (01:56:50):
I started the company in twenty twenty, so right in
the height of the pandemic.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
Gotcha, why'd you start it?

Speaker 27 (01:56:56):
So?

Speaker 44 (01:56:56):
I was always that young girl that had way too
many journals, way too many no books, and I spent
my corporate career building other people's brands and was waiting
for one to be focused on women of color. And
then I never found anyone that did it, so I
stopped waiting for someone else to do it and did
it myself.

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
All right, then, all right it sounds great, folks. I
want you to go to shop Blackstart Network dot com.
Go to shop black Start Network dot com. Check out
Jasmine's products be rooted again. We got the Jagsaw puzzle,
We've got the glasses here, we got the journal, the notebook. Uh,

(01:57:34):
and we got we've got the playing cards and so
again I want you to check it out. There's some
other products there as well. So go to shop Blackstartnetwork
dot com. Again, y'all know we're doing the blackout. We
ain't buy from other people were buying black. So go
to shop Blackstart network dot com and check out all
these particular gifts Jasmine. We appreciate it. Uh, thank you

(01:57:57):
so very much. A while last question I have for
your what's what's what's what's a new product you're thinking
about coming out with in twenty six?

Speaker 44 (01:58:07):
Ooh you're trying to get the exclusive damn right. So
we are working on a kid's collection, so for back
to school notebooks, planners for young boys and girls, Young
boys and girls with illustrated artwork. So moms be on
the lookout for, be rooted for the kids for back
to school.

Speaker 2 (01:58:25):
All right then, and somebody in the chat room said
Roland should do a Blackstar Network space tournament. Oh that's
a good idea, and the first victim will be Randy.
All right, Jason, well appreciate, thanks a.

Speaker 4 (01:58:38):
Lot, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:40):
All right, I tell him the stop.

Speaker 27 (01:58:43):
She don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
She don't know. She don't know to.

Speaker 26 (01:58:48):
Check when people say a tell rolland we will whoop
his it's some spade that is for you to know.

Speaker 3 (01:58:54):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
I don't heard. I don't heard that bullshit before.

Speaker 3 (01:58:59):
This, not like I said, I can show you better
than first.

Speaker 2 (01:59:02):
Of all, rand speakase you're showing better. You can tell
me wear my Tuskeigee stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:59:10):
Oh yeah, I gotta get you that.

Speaker 46 (01:59:12):
Oh oh oh yeah, because so everybody know I only
wear HBCU gear on this show places I've been.

Speaker 2 (01:59:22):
So I been, but the Tuskegee. They ain't give me
no gear, so I can't. I ain't never worn Tuskigee.
And Randa was like, well, I ain't never seen any
Tuskege stuff I like, cause there ain't sent me no
gifts like I didn't take it. I'm gonna fix that.
That was last year. That was last year. That was
last year, Randy. That was last year. I got an

(01:59:43):
entire closet over here of HBCU stuff, all kind of
folks because the other Alabama schools doesn't sit and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:59:53):
Okay, I got you there.

Speaker 3 (01:59:54):
No, seriously, you know that's the last.

Speaker 2 (01:59:57):
Yeah, you need to tell the Tuski geministration. Go ahead,
put in the mail. It's like a rocket on the show.
All right, that is that's it for us. Randy appreciated, y'all.
Don't forget Randy's card game. Uh you got you gotta stand.
I mean, okay, I gotta be careful because you know,
Randy got them tricky ass truth in questions. So you're

(02:00:20):
gonna follow yourself revenge some stuff you don't necessarily want
to be revealing with that truth in the game. So
I'm just saying, I'm just saying that's right. Don't don't be,
don't be, don't listen. You get one of them freaky questions,
don't be telling the truth. Go ahead and lie.

Speaker 26 (02:00:38):
There's nothing freaky stuff about black the black community.

Speaker 3 (02:00:41):
It's not just kind of cars bro with go to
Randy b dot net and check him out. There's nothing freaky.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
Oh it's not.

Speaker 3 (02:00:50):
No, it's it's tough for the black community, like the
stuff we talk about.

Speaker 4 (02:00:53):
On this show.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
Oh okay, that what that? That much your other set
of cards? All right? That said, Andy, uh stop, I appreciated,
thanks a bunch uh Smody put the chat to him
about rolling the slap of that slap didn't sound right.
First of all, I got this big ass ring on
and this ring too, okay, So, plus we ain't trying
to sit here and mess the set up. What's wrong
with y'all people? Plus, an appropriate slap in spades requires

(02:01:20):
a card table. You got to be able to slap
the table, then the car, the table jump. Okay, y'all
don't know, y'all don't know. See some of y'all suburban negroes.
All right, that's it, y'all, don't forget. If y'all want
to support the work that we do, y'all know, this
the blackest show out here. Any other show a ship,
ain't no other show blacker, ain't no show hosted by

(02:01:41):
somebody black, any blacker than this show. This is how
we do it. So y'all want to support the work
we do. Please do so, of course, if you want
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rolling that Rolling Martin filter dot com. Check sit money order, man,

(02:02:02):
turn that music down. Music too loud, music too loud.
Cane in you gotta you gotta easy in, you gotta slot,
you gotta pot that thing up. You just can't come
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(02:02:23):
Let me know how many downloads we have? Have we
hit two hundred thousand, Apple Phone, Android Phone, Apple TV,
Android TV, Roku, Amazon Fire TV, Xbox one, Samsung Smart TV.

Speaker 11 (02:02:34):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:02:34):
You want to get my book White Fear as the
Browning of Americas making white folks lose their minds. Be
sure to get it bookstores online as well. You want
to get the audio version I read an audible you
can do that too. Also, I'm gonna get out rolling
unfiltered Black Starting Network swag Yo. Go to shop Blackstart
Network dot com. Use a cure coade there, man, we

(02:02:56):
got our t shirts, our hoodies, our zip ups, wal
art uh man, y'all we got all that and you
name it, we got it. So go to shop blackstire
network dot com again, be rooted products right here, all
of these products you see right here black on products.

Speaker 27 (02:03:12):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:03:13):
We got the nursing smocks. We got the nurses smocks
right here. We got the black on tailet paper and
tissue leafy. We got sauces. We got backpacks. Man, we
got black on chips. We got it hair, we got
skin products. We got cupcakes. We got HBCU gear. We

(02:03:33):
got artwork is artwork and stuffed animals. Man, we got
other other jigsaw puzzles. We got cars car cleaning solution
Jim rapp Man. We got all this stuff on shop
blackstarnetwork dot com. We got what's what's the ship? What's

(02:03:54):
this ship? Oh yeah, this this is the the fragrances,
the perfume. We got that too, plus us up with
he rooted, y'all. Go to shot Blackstart network dot com.
Everybody black home, Go there, check it out and then
of course downhead the app fan base and if you
want to invest, get more information and start engine dot
com for slash fan base. Start engine dot com force

(02:04:16):
slash fan base. Shout out to Morehouse College. I'm rocking
their sweatshirt today. I'm gonna figure out whom and where
tomorrow on the show. And so y'all know how we
represent uh and again man shout out to McKenzie Scott. Yo,
McKenzie Scott, y'all, she has given more than seven hundred
million dollars, seven hundred million doll just keep the camera

(02:04:38):
right there. Seven hundred million dollars to HBCUs. I mean
it seems like every day we get a new announcement
of a gift and YO, well, I can't find my stuff.
I was about to do a presentation on there.

Speaker 1 (02:04:55):
I don't know where it.

Speaker 2 (02:04:56):
Is, Oh, Jim, yes it is is this it? Oh good?
I found something from them all right here we go, yo,
find they sent me a hat a So today mackenzie dropped, Yo,
what was it? Thirty eight million? Congratulations Xavier Universe, Xavia University.
Billionaire Philathemus. Mackenzie Scott gave thirty eight million dollars today

(02:05:19):
to Xavier University. Yo, she's giving money to Flander Smith
University of Maryland Eastern Shore Poolie State. Howard Sheep Joe seriously,
so thirty eight million to Xavier University to support them
in Xavier. Yeah, I gotta see me something to wear.
I can't wear a bag, just saying can't wear a bag,

(02:05:43):
all right, SOO Xavier, congratulations folks. I'll see you out
tomorrow right here rolling mard unfiltered on the Blackstarting Network.
Y'all know how we supposed to show out, huh

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